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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,006 --> 00:00:07,966 [birds chirping] 2 00:00:08,049 --> 00:00:10,051 [pensive music playing] 3 00:00:11,553 --> 00:00:14,097 [Christine] After I got Sam's confession, 4 00:00:15,015 --> 00:00:17,809 I gave the audio to the local police department. 5 00:00:18,393 --> 00:00:20,520 I say, "I got a bombshell." 6 00:00:21,187 --> 00:00:24,149 "I have evidence. I have proof. I have the proof you've been waiting for." 7 00:00:24,232 --> 00:00:27,360 [Sam] It was not adultery. It was obedience. 8 00:00:27,444 --> 00:00:32,782 And I expected, maybe, you know, within three days I would get a call back. 9 00:00:32,866 --> 00:00:35,744 You know, "Yep, this is it. We're gonna go arrest him." 10 00:00:36,369 --> 00:00:41,374 But it took a while for the police to get back to us. 11 00:00:42,125 --> 00:00:43,877 So we kept filming. 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,962 [pensive music continues] 13 00:00:48,006 --> 00:00:51,134 [Tolga] Here we are in the Bentley with the man with the plan. 14 00:00:51,217 --> 00:00:54,554 Wow, what an interior. I love it. The white jacket and the tan. 15 00:00:54,637 --> 00:00:55,764 [beeping] 16 00:00:55,847 --> 00:00:59,601 I would ask questions to try to get more information. 17 00:01:01,144 --> 00:01:03,813 So, I'm sorry that I'm not educated in this. 18 00:01:03,897 --> 00:01:04,981 [Sam] That's all right. 19 00:01:05,065 --> 00:01:09,694 But it was revealed to you, what to do to save them? 20 00:01:10,487 --> 00:01:13,406 All I know is I was sitting in one of our meetings one morning, 21 00:01:13,490 --> 00:01:15,700 and I was like, "Holy shit." 22 00:01:16,409 --> 00:01:19,329 And I said, "I will obey." 23 00:01:19,412 --> 00:01:22,165 'Cause the Lord told me to… to do this thing. 24 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:24,542 So do you think that 25 00:01:24,626 --> 00:01:26,753 the reason you had to witness it 26 00:01:26,836 --> 00:01:28,797 was so that you would hurt? 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,048 It is pain. 28 00:01:30,673 --> 00:01:34,219 They're my sweethearts. There's nothing on the earth more precious to me 29 00:01:34,302 --> 00:01:36,012 than the virtue 30 00:01:36,888 --> 00:01:39,265 of women in general and my own wives. 31 00:01:39,974 --> 00:01:44,229 I think he wanted somebody to say, "Wow. You must be the new Messiah, 32 00:01:44,312 --> 00:01:46,272 that you would hurt like Jesus." 33 00:01:47,732 --> 00:01:49,150 -I… -[Christine] Did you cry? 34 00:01:50,110 --> 00:01:53,696 I couldn't even cry. I didn't even… I… I was so shocked, I didn't cry. I don't… 35 00:01:53,780 --> 00:01:54,656 I don't think. 36 00:01:54,739 --> 00:01:56,533 Yeah, I did, sorry. I did cry. 37 00:01:57,450 --> 00:01:58,284 But watch, 38 00:01:58,368 --> 00:02:00,370 you'll… you'll find out that God made me a prophet, 39 00:02:00,453 --> 00:02:02,539 and you'll find out that people will come back. 40 00:02:02,622 --> 00:02:05,834 -They'll come begging… me for forgiveness. -[Tolga] Yeah. 41 00:02:06,501 --> 00:02:09,170 [Christine] Do you see more wives joining the family? 42 00:02:09,254 --> 00:02:10,213 [chuckles] 43 00:02:10,296 --> 00:02:11,214 Probably. 44 00:02:11,798 --> 00:02:13,258 [hesitating] Yeah. Yeah. 45 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,303 [music ends] 46 00:03:02,724 --> 00:03:04,017 [poignant music playing] 47 00:03:04,100 --> 00:03:06,102 [rooster crowing] 48 00:03:12,025 --> 00:03:15,778 [Esther] When Christine recorded Sam talking about the sexual abuse, 49 00:03:15,862 --> 00:03:19,574 I knew that it had her really worried and worked up in her feelings 50 00:03:19,657 --> 00:03:21,242 about what was going on there. 51 00:03:21,910 --> 00:03:23,578 She was worried about the girls. 52 00:03:24,412 --> 00:03:27,081 [Sam] Thank you so much, Christine, for everything also. 53 00:03:27,165 --> 00:03:28,958 We love you and God bless you. 54 00:03:29,459 --> 00:03:33,504 [Christine] Eventually, I heard back from the police, 55 00:03:33,588 --> 00:03:36,257 who said that wasn't enough evidence. 56 00:03:36,341 --> 00:03:38,801 [intriguing music playing] 57 00:03:40,678 --> 00:03:43,598 [Sgt. Wilkinson] Christine had told me about the recording. 58 00:03:44,098 --> 00:03:45,308 In that recording, 59 00:03:45,391 --> 00:03:50,647 Sam talks about adult men having sex with young women. 60 00:03:51,272 --> 00:03:55,151 Um, I don't remember exact wording, obviously. I… 61 00:03:55,652 --> 00:03:58,488 I haven't listened to it since I listened to it the first time. 62 00:03:58,571 --> 00:04:03,117 It's not something I like to… to burden myself with 63 00:04:03,201 --> 00:04:05,119 as… as we go through these cases 64 00:04:05,203 --> 00:04:08,206 because there is a lot of information that comes 65 00:04:08,289 --> 00:04:10,667 that… that hurts a gentle heart. 66 00:04:10,750 --> 00:04:12,752 [intriguing music continues] 67 00:04:16,589 --> 00:04:18,007 We had a tape. 68 00:04:18,967 --> 00:04:20,260 We had Christine Marie, 69 00:04:20,343 --> 00:04:23,680 who could testify that she created the tape. 70 00:04:23,763 --> 00:04:26,474 -[Sam] Do you feel unclean? -[underage wife] No. 71 00:04:26,557 --> 00:04:28,434 [Sam] There was not wickedness. 72 00:04:28,518 --> 00:04:30,645 [Sgt. Wilkinson] Based on this single tape, 73 00:04:30,728 --> 00:04:32,355 I didn't have enough for a warrant. 74 00:04:32,438 --> 00:04:34,691 What was missing was the finer elements. 75 00:04:36,067 --> 00:04:38,236 There was more evidence needed 76 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:39,737 before we could start 77 00:04:39,821 --> 00:04:42,323 knocking at the hornet's nest, if you will. 78 00:04:43,908 --> 00:04:45,076 What we know 79 00:04:45,785 --> 00:04:48,288 and what we can prove beyond a reasonable doubt 80 00:04:48,371 --> 00:04:50,623 are two very different things. 81 00:04:50,707 --> 00:04:51,874 [insects chirping] 82 00:04:51,958 --> 00:04:53,918 -[Christine] Hey, darlin'. -[woman on phone] Hello. 83 00:04:54,002 --> 00:04:56,838 [Christine] I talked to the investigator to find out what they thought 84 00:04:56,921 --> 00:04:58,548 after listening to the evidence. 85 00:04:58,631 --> 00:05:00,591 -[Lola] Yes? -But nope. 86 00:05:00,675 --> 00:05:02,051 [Lola] Oh my gosh. 87 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:06,389 [Christine] Even though the tape was strong, Sam could deny it. 88 00:05:06,472 --> 00:05:07,390 [Lola] Wow. 89 00:05:08,349 --> 00:05:09,976 [inhales deeply] In the meantime, 90 00:05:10,059 --> 00:05:13,730 he's just the cruelest bastard I've ever met. 91 00:05:13,813 --> 00:05:14,814 [Lola] Yeah. 92 00:05:14,897 --> 00:05:16,649 I was worried for my mom. 93 00:05:17,442 --> 00:05:18,693 At the time, 94 00:05:18,776 --> 00:05:22,697 my mom was at risk of going to a darker and darker place 95 00:05:22,780 --> 00:05:28,328 because of her firsthand experience following someone like Sam Bateman. 96 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,539 Never judge. 'Cause I've been there. 97 00:05:31,622 --> 00:05:32,707 I lost everything. 98 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:37,628 I was scammed, and I was, like, uh, almost not here anymore. 99 00:05:37,712 --> 00:05:41,924 I lost everything to being, uh… to not understanding 100 00:05:42,008 --> 00:05:44,677 who is… who to trust and who not to trust. 101 00:05:45,261 --> 00:05:47,805 [Lola] Predators have just always been drawn to her 102 00:05:47,889 --> 00:05:50,475 'cause she really sees the best in people. 103 00:05:50,558 --> 00:05:53,269 She sees the best in people to a fault. [laughs] 104 00:05:54,145 --> 00:05:55,813 [Lola on phone] Ugh, scary. 105 00:05:56,481 --> 00:05:59,609 I was worried for her, but I also knew that she was the only one 106 00:05:59,692 --> 00:06:03,446 who could actually get him put in jail. 107 00:06:04,030 --> 00:06:05,114 And to do that, 108 00:06:05,698 --> 00:06:08,284 she would have to go even deeper. 109 00:06:09,243 --> 00:06:10,787 [music fades] 110 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:12,872 [Sam] I don't know. Is that how it's supposed to be? 111 00:06:12,955 --> 00:06:14,248 Underneath the collar? 112 00:06:14,332 --> 00:06:17,210 Like, if we put it under the collar, then it's not seen. 113 00:06:18,002 --> 00:06:20,755 -Okay, so do you want me to start? -[Christine] Yeah. Yeah. 114 00:06:20,838 --> 00:06:23,049 -Okay, once upon a time… -[wives laugh] 115 00:06:23,132 --> 00:06:25,968 …many, many moons ago… [chuckles] 116 00:06:26,052 --> 00:06:27,929 [pensive music playing] 117 00:06:28,012 --> 00:06:29,722 [Christine] While we were filming, 118 00:06:29,806 --> 00:06:32,683 I was trying to get to know the girls more 119 00:06:32,767 --> 00:06:37,230 and to understand the women in Sam's group. 120 00:06:37,814 --> 00:06:39,315 One person at a time? 121 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:41,067 Okay, start with your name. 122 00:06:41,776 --> 00:06:43,403 [Sam] We call her Mother Anna. 123 00:06:44,237 --> 00:06:46,906 I changed her name, and she didn't even get mad at me. 124 00:06:46,989 --> 00:06:48,366 -[chuckles] -[Christine] Ah. 125 00:06:49,117 --> 00:06:50,827 How did you go to Samuel? 126 00:06:50,910 --> 00:06:52,495 [Anna] In 2019. 127 00:06:52,578 --> 00:06:55,081 I was 22, and nobody was gettin' married, you know. 128 00:06:55,164 --> 00:06:57,750 -Our people weren't havin' children. -[Christine] Yeah. 129 00:06:57,834 --> 00:07:00,336 [Anna] But then my parents started having children again. 130 00:07:00,837 --> 00:07:03,548 So I felt like it was the right thing to do. 131 00:07:04,173 --> 00:07:05,967 [Christine] Yeah, I can understand that. 132 00:07:06,467 --> 00:07:09,220 [Sam] Okay, Mother Shiny, we're ready to hear some stuff. 133 00:07:10,888 --> 00:07:13,015 To just have the impression and go to a man 134 00:07:13,099 --> 00:07:15,101 was completely against our traditions. 135 00:07:16,018 --> 00:07:21,023 And yet, in my mind, I wanted to do it because I wanted a baby so dang bad. 136 00:07:21,107 --> 00:07:23,818 And Samuel's name, it came into my mind. 137 00:07:24,402 --> 00:07:27,280 It said, "You belong to him." This thing in the back of my mind. 138 00:07:27,363 --> 00:07:29,365 -[Christine] He did? Oh… -No, in the back of my mind. 139 00:07:29,449 --> 00:07:31,784 -It was a still, small voice. -A still, small voice. 140 00:07:31,868 --> 00:07:35,163 -But it shook you to the very center. -Yeah, it was very clear. 141 00:07:35,246 --> 00:07:36,706 "You are a part 142 00:07:37,665 --> 00:07:40,793 of the greatest events in history." 143 00:07:44,213 --> 00:07:47,550 I know it's gonna sound weird, but the spirit of God tells me to tell you 144 00:07:47,633 --> 00:07:50,553 that there was a power that linked everything through the whole universe. 145 00:07:50,636 --> 00:07:53,556 I don't know why the Lord opened my eyes to see, 146 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:54,640 but I did. 147 00:07:55,183 --> 00:07:57,226 This is… This is real. It's a real thing. 148 00:07:57,310 --> 00:07:58,519 Am I wrong? 149 00:07:58,603 --> 00:07:59,979 -No. -[Sam's wife] No. 150 00:08:00,062 --> 00:08:01,314 I… I'm not wrong. 151 00:08:02,607 --> 00:08:04,942 [Christine] I knew they were putting on a show, 152 00:08:05,026 --> 00:08:08,571 but I didn't know exactly what was going on behind the scenes. 153 00:08:11,491 --> 00:08:12,492 [music fades] 154 00:08:13,409 --> 00:08:14,869 [Sam on phone] Hello, Christine. 155 00:08:14,952 --> 00:08:18,414 Um, some of the girls were saying that you wanted to hear more testimonies. 156 00:08:18,498 --> 00:08:19,499 Is that true or…? 157 00:08:20,708 --> 00:08:21,876 You bet it is. 158 00:08:22,543 --> 00:08:26,005 It's so inspiring to hear them, and I think it serves you well. 159 00:08:28,049 --> 00:08:30,635 [Christine] I was not permitted to be alone with the underage girls. 160 00:08:30,718 --> 00:08:31,719 How are you? 161 00:08:31,802 --> 00:08:36,098 But Sam started sending his wives over to my house 162 00:08:36,182 --> 00:08:40,269 because he wanted us to film these storytelling testimony sessions 163 00:08:40,353 --> 00:08:41,687 for the documentary. 164 00:08:41,771 --> 00:08:43,940 -[poignant music playing] -[Sam's wife] Yay! 165 00:08:44,023 --> 00:08:49,445 [Christine] He wanted to capture how much his girls love him. 166 00:08:49,987 --> 00:08:52,073 [chuckling] 167 00:08:52,156 --> 00:08:54,242 -[Sam's wife] Let's do it. -[dog barking] 168 00:08:54,325 --> 00:08:57,411 [Christine] Do you guys want to, um, eat… eat while she's talking? 169 00:08:57,495 --> 00:08:59,247 Just… Just don't burp. 170 00:08:59,330 --> 00:09:01,332 [women laughing] 171 00:09:01,874 --> 00:09:04,460 -[Christine] Are these your wedding rings? -Yeah. 172 00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:05,836 [wives giggling] 173 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,296 -[Christine] Do you have one? -Yeah. 174 00:09:07,380 --> 00:09:10,174 That's what happens when you're married to the best man in the world. 175 00:09:10,258 --> 00:09:11,801 [Christine] I wanna hear your thoughts 176 00:09:11,884 --> 00:09:14,929 about how you came to know you were to be his wife. 177 00:09:15,012 --> 00:09:19,141 I knew that the Heavenly Father wanted me to come be a part of his family. 178 00:09:19,642 --> 00:09:22,562 This is where I wanna be, so that's why I'm here. 179 00:09:22,645 --> 00:09:26,274 I know that, like, he is my only connection to Heavenly Father. 180 00:09:26,357 --> 00:09:28,901 I cannot get to Heavenly Father without him. 181 00:09:30,069 --> 00:09:31,696 I have to have him. [chuckles] 182 00:09:31,779 --> 00:09:33,781 -[Christine] It's pretty powerful. -[chuckles] 183 00:09:33,864 --> 00:09:36,117 -Your eternal life is in his hands? -Mm-hmm. 184 00:09:36,617 --> 00:09:39,036 [Christine] Had you already told your mother and father? 185 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,914 My father knew about it when he called me. 186 00:09:41,998 --> 00:09:43,708 [Christine] How did you find out? 187 00:09:43,791 --> 00:09:45,209 She came and told me. 188 00:09:45,710 --> 00:09:49,714 There is one man on this earth I trust, and that is Samuel Bateman. 189 00:09:49,797 --> 00:09:54,135 Samuel has come to wake us up to where… 190 00:09:54,218 --> 00:09:56,387 where we're headed if we don't obey. 191 00:10:01,976 --> 00:10:03,394 [Sam's wife] We're gonna head now. 192 00:10:03,477 --> 00:10:06,022 [Christine] Tell Samuel it was very successful. 193 00:10:06,606 --> 00:10:07,607 See you. 194 00:10:08,107 --> 00:10:10,026 [crickets chirping] 195 00:10:10,067 --> 00:10:12,570 [Christine] Does it seem to you that all those ladies love him? 196 00:10:12,653 --> 00:10:14,196 [Tolga] They don't love him. 197 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,573 I mean, it's like… Ugh! 198 00:10:15,656 --> 00:10:18,117 -I mean, that… -Remember, when you're undercover… 199 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,829 you have to put your… you have to compartmentalize. 200 00:10:22,413 --> 00:10:24,040 [Tolga] I mean, those girls trust you. 201 00:10:24,540 --> 00:10:27,043 More important that he's trusting you. You know what I mean? 202 00:10:27,126 --> 00:10:28,961 That's… You gotta keep that going. 203 00:10:29,045 --> 00:10:31,631 [Christine] What do you think about the mothers of these girls? 204 00:10:31,714 --> 00:10:35,843 [Tolga] The older ones have some problems, but they deal with it, you know? 205 00:10:36,344 --> 00:10:38,638 Looking at all the girls there that were Julia's… 206 00:10:39,221 --> 00:10:40,139 [Tolga] Yeah. 207 00:10:40,222 --> 00:10:42,516 [Christine] All of a sudden, she has an empty nest 208 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,728 because Samuel has taken all her daughters. 209 00:10:45,811 --> 00:10:46,896 [tense music playing] 210 00:10:46,979 --> 00:10:48,272 [Tolga] That's fucked up. 211 00:10:48,773 --> 00:10:50,650 [Christine] All of those children, 212 00:10:50,733 --> 00:10:53,611 Julia thought she was gonna continue raising. 213 00:10:53,694 --> 00:10:57,740 She didn't expect to lose **** at age ten. 214 00:10:59,033 --> 00:11:00,284 -You know? -[Tolga] Yeah. 215 00:11:00,951 --> 00:11:02,662 [Christine] My heart really breaks for her. 216 00:11:02,745 --> 00:11:04,955 -[Tolga] For Julia, yeah. -[Christine] Yeah. 217 00:11:06,374 --> 00:11:08,668 This is such a fictional world. 218 00:11:10,294 --> 00:11:12,296 [birds chirping] 219 00:11:12,380 --> 00:11:13,464 [music fades] 220 00:11:19,220 --> 00:11:22,765 People didn't just jump into the situation 221 00:11:23,432 --> 00:11:24,767 with just open arms. 222 00:11:24,850 --> 00:11:26,435 [pensive music playing] 223 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:31,148 My husband, Moroni, and I had been married for over 25 years. 224 00:11:32,358 --> 00:11:36,862 And we didn't have any communication with the prophet Warren Jeffs 225 00:11:36,946 --> 00:11:38,030 for many years. 226 00:11:39,281 --> 00:11:43,577 Not having church leadership just right there to counsel with, 227 00:11:43,661 --> 00:11:44,620 it was hard. 228 00:11:45,287 --> 00:11:47,998 So I would ask questions to Moroni. 229 00:11:48,082 --> 00:11:51,585 Nothin' worth… worth anything in this life is easy. 230 00:11:52,586 --> 00:11:56,465 [Julia] Women are taught to submit to the men. 231 00:11:56,549 --> 00:12:01,387 And as the father, he was the ruling power over our family. 232 00:12:01,887 --> 00:12:04,974 And so when Moroni started following Sam, 233 00:12:05,057 --> 00:12:06,684 that made me make that change too. 234 00:12:08,352 --> 00:12:12,314 And so, many of my sister-wives and all of my daughters went to Sam. 235 00:12:13,023 --> 00:12:17,027 Some people do those fancy braids, but I never learned how to do 'em. 236 00:12:18,362 --> 00:12:20,865 I did question the things we were doin'. 237 00:12:21,365 --> 00:12:26,370 But I said, well, maybe there's something I'm not comprehending or understanding, 238 00:12:26,454 --> 00:12:29,790 and if I'll just hang on, I can better understand it. 239 00:12:30,416 --> 00:12:33,335 Because I felt like he wouldn't 240 00:12:33,419 --> 00:12:36,756 ask me to do something that would be harmful to myself 241 00:12:37,465 --> 00:12:39,300 or destructive to our family. 242 00:12:40,009 --> 00:12:42,011 [pensive music continues] 243 00:12:43,637 --> 00:12:44,805 [music fades] 244 00:12:44,889 --> 00:12:47,349 [Christine] So keep this very, very confidential. 245 00:12:48,851 --> 00:12:52,521 It became clear that if I wanted real information, 246 00:12:52,605 --> 00:12:57,777 I would have to talk to somebody who was not under Sam's control. 247 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,196 We have things to talk about. 248 00:13:00,988 --> 00:13:05,868 Moroni had a son named Warren Levi, who did not support Sam. 249 00:13:07,161 --> 00:13:11,040 He was very worried about his mother and his sisters 250 00:13:11,707 --> 00:13:14,210 and agreed to secretly meet with me. 251 00:13:14,877 --> 00:13:16,545 [Warren Levi] Starting in 2019, 252 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:21,884 Sam married seven of my sisters ranging in age from 20-ish 253 00:13:21,967 --> 00:13:23,385 down to nine years old. 254 00:13:24,136 --> 00:13:26,764 Married is just a phrase to say that 255 00:13:28,307 --> 00:13:31,352 Sam currently can do whatever he pleases… 256 00:13:31,852 --> 00:13:33,354 -Right. -…with the girls. 257 00:13:33,979 --> 00:13:37,441 [Christine] Did you ever see Sam kiss the underage girls? 258 00:13:37,525 --> 00:13:38,359 Yes. 259 00:13:38,984 --> 00:13:40,152 Oh my goodness. 260 00:13:40,236 --> 00:13:41,946 [brooding music playing] 261 00:13:42,029 --> 00:13:46,033 There was none of 'em that went easy to get married to Sam. Not one of 'em. 262 00:13:47,326 --> 00:13:50,371 Every one of 'em referred to him as the devil. 263 00:13:51,330 --> 00:13:53,999 I remember Sam came to me, and he's like, 264 00:13:54,083 --> 00:13:57,753 "The Lord has told me that your little sister belongs to me." 265 00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:02,174 But I was like, "She's nine years old. She's not ready for this mentally." 266 00:14:03,259 --> 00:14:06,303 But we've been taught to respect our fathers. 267 00:14:06,887 --> 00:14:07,888 Don't question. 268 00:14:08,681 --> 00:14:11,016 The girls trust Moroni, 269 00:14:12,017 --> 00:14:15,688 and Moroni is owned by Sam Bateman. 270 00:14:19,316 --> 00:14:20,985 [brooding music continues] 271 00:14:21,068 --> 00:14:22,486 -[tapping] -[Tolga] There you go. 272 00:14:22,570 --> 00:14:26,156 I knew the parallel between every one of the prophets 273 00:14:27,032 --> 00:14:29,869 and… President Samuel R. Bateman. 274 00:14:29,952 --> 00:14:31,287 [Tolga] That's powerful stuff. 275 00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:34,206 I started spending a lot of time with Sam's male followers. 276 00:14:34,790 --> 00:14:36,041 Especially Moroni. 277 00:14:36,625 --> 00:14:38,002 I'm learning from you. 278 00:14:38,878 --> 00:14:44,425 I wanted to understand why he's convinced that Sam is speaking for God. 279 00:14:45,009 --> 00:14:47,970 How do you know Samuel is the true prophet of God? 280 00:14:48,596 --> 00:14:52,474 I knew he had a position before Heavenly Father that was above me. 281 00:14:52,558 --> 00:14:53,517 I… I could tell. 282 00:14:54,143 --> 00:14:57,354 [Tolga] All of a sudden, Sam felt this and that and whatever? 283 00:14:57,855 --> 00:15:00,065 Oh, Tolga, this thing is so deep. 284 00:15:01,483 --> 00:15:02,443 Oh. 285 00:15:04,987 --> 00:15:09,909 [Christine] About eight months before Sam named himself the prophet, 286 00:15:09,992 --> 00:15:12,620 Moroni started doing his own thinking. 287 00:15:14,413 --> 00:15:17,541 It's a time no one was supposed to be 288 00:15:17,625 --> 00:15:19,752 getting married, having babies. 289 00:15:20,753 --> 00:15:23,547 But Moroni started taking new wives 290 00:15:23,631 --> 00:15:28,177 and having children without the blessings of Warren Jeffs. 291 00:15:29,678 --> 00:15:32,139 He was shunned by the town. 292 00:15:34,516 --> 00:15:37,728 He didn't know, would he ever be FLDS again? 293 00:15:37,811 --> 00:15:39,563 I mean, that was his culture, 294 00:15:40,147 --> 00:15:42,024 his lifelong investment. 295 00:15:43,734 --> 00:15:46,737 He felt like he had really sinned against God. 296 00:15:47,821 --> 00:15:49,823 [Moroni] We're in a hell of a fix. 297 00:15:49,907 --> 00:15:51,951 We say we know the spirit of God, 298 00:15:52,493 --> 00:15:53,619 but I've dabbled. 299 00:15:54,411 --> 00:15:56,914 We're gonna get the shit whipped out of us. 300 00:15:57,665 --> 00:16:01,335 [Christine] Moroni, he thinks, "I'm going to hell." 301 00:16:02,544 --> 00:16:03,712 "Life is over." 302 00:16:06,131 --> 00:16:11,303 But Sam, who now represents himself as speaking for Warren Jeffs, 303 00:16:11,387 --> 00:16:13,973 starts embracing Moroni. 304 00:16:14,515 --> 00:16:16,809 He's offering a path to salvation, basically. 305 00:16:16,892 --> 00:16:19,687 [keyboard clacking] 306 00:16:24,316 --> 00:16:27,653 Sam was putting him and his family up on a pedestal. 307 00:16:27,736 --> 00:16:29,446 -[kid giggling] -Hi, son. 308 00:16:30,406 --> 00:16:33,826 -[kid] I'm trying to hide, yeah. -I know, but you gotta catch me first. 309 00:16:33,909 --> 00:16:34,868 Ahh! 310 00:16:35,786 --> 00:16:37,788 Moroni's like, "I have a second chance." 311 00:16:38,998 --> 00:16:41,834 At that point, Sam becomes God to Moroni. 312 00:16:42,876 --> 00:16:46,130 No man chose Samuel Rappylee Bateman. 313 00:16:46,630 --> 00:16:48,716 [intriguing music playing] 314 00:16:48,799 --> 00:16:50,050 God hath done it. 315 00:16:51,385 --> 00:16:54,388 Sam had no reservations now 316 00:16:54,471 --> 00:16:57,933 about commanding that people obey him. 317 00:16:58,017 --> 00:17:01,603 [keyboard clacking] 318 00:17:02,312 --> 00:17:03,981 Moroni would take his money, 319 00:17:04,064 --> 00:17:05,941 give everything to Sam, 320 00:17:06,025 --> 00:17:09,194 and then Sam wanted more and more and more. 321 00:17:09,778 --> 00:17:11,780 Like Moroni's wives and daughters. 322 00:17:17,619 --> 00:17:19,663 -[Tolga] Yeah… -Is that still recording? 323 00:17:19,747 --> 00:17:20,581 [Tolga] Yeah, sorry. 324 00:17:20,664 --> 00:17:22,666 -[crickets chirping] -[wind whooshing] 325 00:17:27,337 --> 00:17:29,548 [Christine] We actually are borrowing someone's car 326 00:17:29,631 --> 00:17:31,800 so nobody can recognize our car. 327 00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:32,885 [woman on phone] Oh, good. 328 00:17:32,968 --> 00:17:36,805 Come, and there's a house with a white fence all the way around it. 329 00:17:36,889 --> 00:17:37,890 [Christine] Okay. 330 00:17:37,973 --> 00:17:40,684 -[brooding music playing] -We'll just sit here quietly. 331 00:17:40,768 --> 00:17:44,605 I was looking to talk to somebody that was on the inside 332 00:17:44,688 --> 00:17:47,024 who had talked to the girls one-on-one. 333 00:17:47,107 --> 00:17:48,484 [line ringing] 334 00:17:48,567 --> 00:17:50,569 Hey, I'm in the black car. Come on out. 335 00:17:51,070 --> 00:17:53,864 [Tolga] You're putting your beams in somebody's bedroom. 336 00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:59,328 [Christine] There was an FLDS lady 337 00:17:59,411 --> 00:18:02,998 who was related to all of the people who followed Sam 338 00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:04,416 in one way or another. 339 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:07,795 She was really concerned about what was going on. 340 00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:11,548 He has 'em so flippin' mixed up, it's not funny. 341 00:18:11,632 --> 00:18:14,218 [Christine] There are children being sexually molested. 342 00:18:14,301 --> 00:18:15,677 [Netty] It just doesn't make sense. 343 00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:18,138 Why does a girl have to get ruined before she can get help? 344 00:18:18,764 --> 00:18:19,848 He is a predator. 345 00:18:19,932 --> 00:18:23,393 Using everything that they've been taught 346 00:18:23,477 --> 00:18:24,603 and turning it. 347 00:18:24,686 --> 00:18:25,521 [Christine] Yep. 348 00:18:25,604 --> 00:18:30,400 When he goes and digs into the scriptures, and he tries to manipulate things 349 00:18:30,484 --> 00:18:33,320 and twist them to capture their purity. 350 00:18:33,987 --> 00:18:35,364 And they don't realize. 351 00:18:35,864 --> 00:18:37,699 I just, like… 352 00:18:37,783 --> 00:18:40,452 -Inside I really am grateful, but like… -[baby crying] 353 00:18:41,370 --> 00:18:43,705 …like, there's all this selfishness. 354 00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:46,834 That's why you have to exert that positive energy, and it goes away. 355 00:18:47,459 --> 00:18:49,545 Exert it, fervently. 356 00:18:50,254 --> 00:18:51,880 -Okay? -Okay. 357 00:18:51,964 --> 00:18:54,174 -And then just cheer up, babe. -Okay. 358 00:18:54,258 --> 00:18:55,175 Thanks. 359 00:18:56,260 --> 00:18:58,220 [Christine] Naomi, who we call "Nomz," 360 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,098 was always next to Sam. 361 00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:04,434 [Netty] She only thinks what he's planted in there. 362 00:19:04,518 --> 00:19:06,520 She doesn't even have 363 00:19:08,063 --> 00:19:09,898 a mind of her own anymore. 364 00:19:10,607 --> 00:19:12,609 She had been harassed to no end, 365 00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:15,988 and she finally got to the point where she was exhausted, 366 00:19:16,071 --> 00:19:17,447 and she gave in. 367 00:19:17,531 --> 00:19:18,532 Oh boy. 368 00:19:18,615 --> 00:19:19,825 Nomz's aunt said, 369 00:19:19,908 --> 00:19:22,411 "I really don't know 370 00:19:22,911 --> 00:19:24,454 how this is gonna end up." 371 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,083 She's seen the battle that Nomz has mentally fought. 372 00:19:29,084 --> 00:19:30,377 It'll last forever. 373 00:19:30,961 --> 00:19:32,796 I don't mind that. 374 00:19:34,715 --> 00:19:37,134 [Naomi's aunt] My niece Naomi married Sam. 375 00:19:37,801 --> 00:19:41,513 It was really heartbreaking to my sister. 376 00:19:42,639 --> 00:19:45,392 Nomz, she was under a lot of pressure 377 00:19:45,475 --> 00:19:48,061 to go be part of Sam's family. 378 00:19:48,812 --> 00:19:50,063 [ominous music playing] 379 00:19:50,147 --> 00:19:52,149 -[Christine] You're wife number…? -I'm 13. 380 00:19:52,232 --> 00:19:54,318 -[Christine] You're 13. Okay. -Wife number 13. 381 00:19:54,401 --> 00:19:55,402 Okay. 382 00:19:56,778 --> 00:19:58,864 [Christine] It was Ladell Jr. 383 00:19:58,947 --> 00:20:01,450 who brought her into the Sam Bateman group. 384 00:20:01,950 --> 00:20:03,994 [Tolga] What's your relation to Ladell? 385 00:20:04,077 --> 00:20:05,871 -He's my cousin. -[Tolga] Oh, he's your cousin. 386 00:20:05,954 --> 00:20:10,334 Yeah, and he was also, like, my caretaker for ten years. 387 00:20:11,084 --> 00:20:13,587 [Carole] Since Nomz was very young, 388 00:20:14,171 --> 00:20:16,298 Lud took care of her family. 389 00:20:17,758 --> 00:20:20,010 She really idolized Lud. 390 00:20:22,054 --> 00:20:25,807 And when he started to get in cahoots with Sam, 391 00:20:26,725 --> 00:20:28,936 he wanted Nomz to be 392 00:20:30,270 --> 00:20:32,147 a part of Sam's thing. 393 00:20:33,106 --> 00:20:35,943 Her mom tried really hard to talk her out of it. 394 00:20:37,611 --> 00:20:40,530 But Nomz respected and loved Lud. 395 00:20:41,323 --> 00:20:45,077 He's like, "I feel impressed that you should come out and listen to Samuel." 396 00:20:45,577 --> 00:20:47,329 Father Samuel, he said, 397 00:20:47,412 --> 00:20:51,083 "Heavenly Father impressed me to tell you that you belong in my family." 398 00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:55,295 And like, I went, like, stone-cold. 399 00:20:55,379 --> 00:20:58,966 Like, "No way. There goes my whole life. There goes everything." 400 00:20:59,049 --> 00:20:59,967 I mean… [chuckles] 401 00:21:00,550 --> 00:21:03,762 Ladell would talk to her, and he would send her texts. 402 00:21:05,055 --> 00:21:07,474 It took a very long time to convince her. 403 00:21:08,767 --> 00:21:11,937 [Naomi] It wasn't till, like, November that I actually got married. 404 00:21:12,020 --> 00:21:17,192 But once I had committed, like, submitted myself to it 405 00:21:17,776 --> 00:21:20,779 was when Heavenly Father gave me the courage and the strength. 406 00:21:21,613 --> 00:21:26,285 She'd been coerced and kind of manipulated into it. 407 00:21:27,703 --> 00:21:30,831 [Naomi] I mean, I was like, this has to be right. 408 00:21:30,914 --> 00:21:33,041 If it's not right, what is? 409 00:21:33,125 --> 00:21:34,376 I would like to know. 410 00:21:34,876 --> 00:21:38,297 I've lived my entire life not knowing what the right thing is, 411 00:21:38,380 --> 00:21:39,840 and I wanna know what is right. 412 00:21:39,923 --> 00:21:40,882 [Christine] So, 413 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,636 Naomi, did you make the right decision? 414 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,346 I did. [chuckles] 415 00:21:48,098 --> 00:21:50,684 The only thing I regret is that I didn't go sooner. 416 00:21:50,767 --> 00:21:53,478 -[Christine] Really? Wow. -That's the only thing I regret in life. 417 00:21:54,604 --> 00:21:56,606 [Carole] We groomed our girls for this. 418 00:21:58,025 --> 00:22:00,902 We're not teaching them to question authority. 419 00:22:00,986 --> 00:22:03,405 We're not teaching them to be critical thinkers. 420 00:22:04,197 --> 00:22:06,325 We're teaching 'em strict obedience. 421 00:22:14,499 --> 00:22:15,625 [music fades] 422 00:22:15,709 --> 00:22:18,128 [Christine] What do you think represents you guys really well? 423 00:22:18,211 --> 00:22:20,130 -Class. Probably. -[laughing] 424 00:22:20,213 --> 00:22:21,548 I don't know. What you think? 425 00:22:22,257 --> 00:22:24,551 -Yeah. -[Christine] When do you do class next? 426 00:22:24,634 --> 00:22:26,845 -We can do it right now. -[Christine gasps] Let's do it. 427 00:22:27,929 --> 00:22:30,515 Sam did a lot of trainings. 428 00:22:31,099 --> 00:22:32,934 Hours and hours and hours of class. 429 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,688 And they became more bizarre by the minute. 430 00:22:37,230 --> 00:22:38,106 Good. 431 00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:39,900 Anyway, I was just explaining 432 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,319 that, uh, goals… 433 00:22:42,402 --> 00:22:44,404 Goals are so important. 434 00:22:44,488 --> 00:22:46,448 So write down your goals. We actually have-- 435 00:22:46,531 --> 00:22:49,034 I don't have mine with me, but we have goal cards. 436 00:22:49,117 --> 00:22:50,994 Pull out your goal cards, would ya? 437 00:22:51,578 --> 00:22:54,581 -I'd love to hear some of your goals. -[Sam] Yes. 438 00:22:54,664 --> 00:22:58,377 My goals are to be the most influential person on Earth. 439 00:22:58,460 --> 00:22:59,336 [Christine] Mm-hmm. 440 00:22:59,836 --> 00:23:05,675 And to… govern North and South America and probably England. 441 00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:07,010 [Christine] Okay. 442 00:23:07,094 --> 00:23:08,011 [babies cooing] 443 00:23:08,095 --> 00:23:10,263 [Sam] And to bring the Queen of England to my home. 444 00:23:10,347 --> 00:23:12,474 [pensive music playing] 445 00:23:12,557 --> 00:23:15,227 [Sam] And I believe that that's part of my mission. 446 00:23:16,978 --> 00:23:19,189 But she's not gonna come to this chicken coop. 447 00:23:20,357 --> 00:23:21,274 She just ain't. 448 00:23:22,025 --> 00:23:23,026 [Christine] Wow. 449 00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:26,029 Get the house, would you? Real quick. 450 00:23:27,364 --> 00:23:29,991 This is what I've drawn up here. 451 00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:31,743 [Christine] "Coming soon!" 452 00:23:31,827 --> 00:23:36,039 [Sam] One of the most beautiful homes I've ever seen, and I know it'll happen. 453 00:23:36,123 --> 00:23:39,167 -That's beautiful. Did you get that? -[Tolga] I got it. 454 00:23:39,751 --> 00:23:41,169 [whispering] That was weird. 455 00:23:42,754 --> 00:23:46,508 He's building this fantasy world 456 00:23:46,591 --> 00:23:48,260 with all these followers. 457 00:23:48,343 --> 00:23:50,929 [Sam's wife] These are things we're envisioning as time goes on. 458 00:23:51,012 --> 00:23:53,265 Things that we… Some of 'em, we already have. 459 00:23:53,348 --> 00:23:54,433 [Christine] Oh! 460 00:23:55,517 --> 00:23:59,688 And then he also started putting things on YouTube. 461 00:23:59,771 --> 00:24:01,440 Hi. Samuel Bateman here. 462 00:24:01,523 --> 00:24:03,358 Hi. Samuel Bateman here. 463 00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:07,821 I want to make a channel where I can help other people take a step up. 464 00:24:07,904 --> 00:24:11,450 All the extremely rich people say is, "Find a mentor." 465 00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:14,286 He was following these self-help gurus, 466 00:24:14,369 --> 00:24:16,872 and he would regurgitate what he learned. 467 00:24:16,955 --> 00:24:19,666 "Your word is your bond" is really how you should think. 468 00:24:19,749 --> 00:24:22,919 When you make that commitment or say something, make sure you do it. 469 00:24:23,503 --> 00:24:26,465 I've been talking every day in our classes. 470 00:24:26,548 --> 00:24:29,968 Don't think negative thoughts. Don't think that something's gonna go wrong. 471 00:24:30,051 --> 00:24:32,637 It literally will draw it to you. 472 00:24:32,721 --> 00:24:33,847 Yeah, for sure. 473 00:24:34,931 --> 00:24:36,892 [Christine] Everything he said and did, 474 00:24:36,975 --> 00:24:41,396 I had to act like everything's okay. We're cool with it. 475 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,397 [chuckles] 476 00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:45,066 [Sam] Surround yourself with great people. 477 00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:47,152 [Christine] That's why I like to be around you guys. 478 00:24:47,235 --> 00:24:49,905 -[chuckling] -Feelings are mutual. 479 00:24:49,988 --> 00:24:51,656 [pensive music continues] 480 00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:53,742 I'm so grateful for what Christine does. 481 00:24:53,825 --> 00:24:55,952 She… She just loves people. 482 00:24:57,204 --> 00:25:00,415 She was going over there a lot. 483 00:25:00,499 --> 00:25:02,501 [indistinct chatter] 484 00:25:03,376 --> 00:25:05,754 There were people who thought 485 00:25:06,254 --> 00:25:09,508 that Christine was there supporting him and helping him. 486 00:25:09,591 --> 00:25:10,884 [Christine] Precious. 487 00:25:10,967 --> 00:25:13,053 Truly a daughter of the king. 488 00:25:14,471 --> 00:25:18,934 There were a lot of people accusing her of empowering him. 489 00:25:19,017 --> 00:25:19,893 [laughing] 490 00:25:19,976 --> 00:25:21,520 [Christine] Are you serious? 491 00:25:22,103 --> 00:25:23,563 I couldn't defend myself. 492 00:25:24,064 --> 00:25:27,817 I couldn't come out with the fact that I was playing a role 493 00:25:29,653 --> 00:25:33,114 because my plan, it was working. 494 00:25:34,616 --> 00:25:37,285 [Tolga] This is recording, and this is recording. 495 00:25:37,869 --> 00:25:42,207 They started being a little more loose with the things they would say. 496 00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:45,210 [Tolga] Okay, whoever has the mic. 497 00:25:45,293 --> 00:25:46,628 [Christine] Forgive me for asking, 498 00:25:46,711 --> 00:25:49,589 but how did you get a crash course in the birds and the bees 499 00:25:49,673 --> 00:25:51,675 between the time you got married? 500 00:25:52,175 --> 00:25:54,886 He ended up telling me. I was innocent as heck. 501 00:25:54,970 --> 00:25:56,888 [Christine] So Samuel himself taught you? 502 00:25:56,972 --> 00:25:58,515 How old are you? 503 00:25:59,307 --> 00:26:00,267 Fifteen. 504 00:26:00,350 --> 00:26:01,768 [unsettling music playing] 505 00:26:01,851 --> 00:26:05,188 [Sam's wife] There's no such thing as an underage marriage in the priesthood. 506 00:26:05,272 --> 00:26:06,356 The Lord can tell, 507 00:26:06,439 --> 00:26:11,861 and why would he hold the 15-year-old back from the blessings, if she's ready? 508 00:26:12,654 --> 00:26:16,199 [Christine] They were talking openly about the sexual activity 509 00:26:16,283 --> 00:26:19,035 that Sam was doing with the underage girls. 510 00:26:19,744 --> 00:26:20,996 [Sam's wife] He had made it seem 511 00:26:22,372 --> 00:26:24,833 so sacred and… 512 00:26:24,916 --> 00:26:25,792 [Christine] Mm-hmm. 513 00:26:25,875 --> 00:26:28,878 …like, celestial. I don't know how else to put it. 514 00:26:28,962 --> 00:26:32,299 And he said it brings such an increase, like, of the spirit of God. 515 00:26:33,967 --> 00:26:36,720 That resulted in another call to the police. 516 00:26:36,803 --> 00:26:40,348 Christine is telling the local police, "This is human trafficking." 517 00:26:41,224 --> 00:26:45,103 The local police said, "Just give us everything you have. We'll look at it." 518 00:26:45,186 --> 00:26:46,938 [mouse clicking] 519 00:26:47,772 --> 00:26:50,150 They went through it for months. Nothing happens. 520 00:26:50,233 --> 00:26:53,111 -We are flying very close to the sun. -[Lola on phone] Yeah. 521 00:26:53,194 --> 00:26:55,030 We get no guidance at all. 522 00:26:55,113 --> 00:26:56,448 And I wish 523 00:26:56,948 --> 00:27:00,869 that I could discuss what our strategy is 524 00:27:00,952 --> 00:27:03,455 with somebody in law enforcement, 525 00:27:03,538 --> 00:27:06,541 and I mean, we're sitting around shooting from the hip, 526 00:27:07,334 --> 00:27:09,085 and I… I feel so alone. 527 00:27:09,169 --> 00:27:10,712 [Lola] God, those girls. 528 00:27:12,255 --> 00:27:13,923 [Tolga] I'd be filming something, 529 00:27:14,674 --> 00:27:18,887 and there's always two or three girls in the back, completely destroyed. 530 00:27:20,805 --> 00:27:22,641 You could just see them crying. 531 00:27:23,516 --> 00:27:26,561 The law wants you to basically get in bed with them 532 00:27:27,312 --> 00:27:30,482 and film it before the guy's arrested. 533 00:27:30,565 --> 00:27:32,317 I mean, what kind of fucking shit is that? 534 00:27:34,778 --> 00:27:36,946 [Esther] It was like Sam felt like he had 535 00:27:37,781 --> 00:27:39,658 all authority to do whatever he wanted. 536 00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:42,619 I think he felt like that he was unstoppable. 537 00:27:42,702 --> 00:27:45,664 I don't know, do you feel forced to be here or anything? 538 00:27:45,747 --> 00:27:46,665 [Sam's wife] No. 539 00:27:47,624 --> 00:27:49,584 No? Are you lying? 540 00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:50,543 No. 541 00:27:51,127 --> 00:27:53,672 How do you know that I'm not just deceiving you? 542 00:27:54,464 --> 00:27:56,132 [Christine] Sam was very clever 543 00:27:56,216 --> 00:28:01,680 because he married some of the mothers of the child brides. 544 00:28:02,305 --> 00:28:05,350 So when Child and Family Services interviewed them, 545 00:28:05,433 --> 00:28:08,061 he could say, "The mothers are here too." 546 00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:12,565 Did you know that the CPS has been here, and they didn't find anything? 547 00:28:13,608 --> 00:28:14,651 Of course not. 548 00:28:15,485 --> 00:28:16,903 We're not doing wrong. 549 00:28:16,986 --> 00:28:18,988 [unsettling music continues] 550 00:28:21,157 --> 00:28:24,327 [Mike] I've covered virtually every significant 551 00:28:24,411 --> 00:28:27,163 and not-so-significant bad guy in this story. 552 00:28:27,247 --> 00:28:30,083 I don't know a single individual 553 00:28:30,166 --> 00:28:34,170 that has set off more flares, waved more red flags 554 00:28:34,254 --> 00:28:35,380 than Samuel Bateman. 555 00:28:37,298 --> 00:28:40,802 I became acquainted with Christine and Tolga, 556 00:28:40,885 --> 00:28:42,971 and I knew what they were doing, 557 00:28:43,054 --> 00:28:44,514 but they're not cops. 558 00:28:45,265 --> 00:28:48,268 If that's what law enforcement needs to bust a case, 559 00:28:48,351 --> 00:28:50,729 getting a documentary crew inside, 560 00:28:50,812 --> 00:28:53,773 and they still don't act with any sense of urgency… 561 00:28:55,150 --> 00:28:57,152 [crickets chirping] 562 00:29:00,697 --> 00:29:02,407 [line ringing] 563 00:29:06,286 --> 00:29:08,288 [on voicemail] This is Sergeant David Wilkinson 564 00:29:08,371 --> 00:29:10,540 with the Colorado City Marshal's Office. 565 00:29:10,623 --> 00:29:13,835 Please leave me a detailed voice message. Thank you. 566 00:29:13,918 --> 00:29:14,919 [voicemail chimes] 567 00:29:16,004 --> 00:29:19,299 There were so many things that I didn't know. 568 00:29:19,382 --> 00:29:21,092 I didn't know how to proceed. 569 00:29:21,593 --> 00:29:23,762 And I was incredibly scared 570 00:29:23,845 --> 00:29:27,098 of what was really happening in Sam's house. 571 00:29:28,099 --> 00:29:30,643 What is going on when we're not there? 572 00:29:31,895 --> 00:29:33,980 What abuse could be stopped? 573 00:29:35,106 --> 00:29:36,733 [line ringing] 574 00:29:37,609 --> 00:29:40,820 I called Sergeant Wilkinson a number of times. 575 00:29:40,904 --> 00:29:42,530 [Sgt. Wilkinson on phone] Hello, Christine. 576 00:29:42,614 --> 00:29:45,867 Christine Marie kept feeding us information that she gathered, 577 00:29:46,701 --> 00:29:49,370 and so I was working desperately to follow up 578 00:29:49,454 --> 00:29:51,456 on each of the pieces of information 579 00:29:51,539 --> 00:29:53,666 to make sure that we established 580 00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:57,378 and could support everything we presented to a prosecutor. 581 00:29:57,462 --> 00:30:01,174 And as some would say, tie it up in a pretty little bow. 582 00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:05,011 [on phone] Again, this is still a work in progress. 583 00:30:05,094 --> 00:30:07,680 [Christine] And I let him know 584 00:30:07,764 --> 00:30:09,766 I thought the FBI should be involved. 585 00:30:09,849 --> 00:30:14,687 He said the FBI requires, you know, multi-state criminal activity. 586 00:30:16,022 --> 00:30:18,817 And I said, "Well, we have it." 587 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,110 [Sam's wife chuckling] We went to Colorado. 588 00:30:21,194 --> 00:30:23,947 -[Tolga chuckling] You did? -We went to Lincoln, Nebraska. 589 00:30:24,030 --> 00:30:27,325 -[Tolga] Nebraska? Why Nebraska? -It was just where Moroni was inspired. 590 00:30:27,408 --> 00:30:29,118 [Tolga] Oh, Moroni. Yeah. Got it. 591 00:30:29,744 --> 00:30:32,497 [Christine] There's Lincoln, Nebraska. There's Monument, Colorado. 592 00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:34,624 There's Utah and Arizona. 593 00:30:34,707 --> 00:30:37,502 It was interstate human trafficking. 594 00:30:38,503 --> 00:30:40,004 And eventually, 595 00:30:40,713 --> 00:30:43,508 my pestering did have a positive effect. 596 00:30:43,591 --> 00:30:45,677 [pensive music playing] 597 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,136 [Sgt. Wilkinson] Hello, Christine. 598 00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:48,096 Hi. 599 00:30:48,179 --> 00:30:52,725 Sergeant Wilkinson called me and said, "I have some news you're gonna like." 600 00:30:53,226 --> 00:30:55,728 "We're going to have a meeting, 601 00:30:55,812 --> 00:30:58,106 and we would like you to do a presentation 602 00:30:58,189 --> 00:31:00,859 on what you know about the Sam Bateman group." 603 00:31:00,942 --> 00:31:06,072 [Sgt. Wilkinson] So are you okay with 2:30 to the FBI field office? 604 00:31:06,155 --> 00:31:07,073 Yes. 605 00:31:07,156 --> 00:31:11,244 [Sgt. Wilkinson] You're gonna be meeting with a Dawn Martin out of Flagstaff. 606 00:31:18,126 --> 00:31:19,377 [music fades] 607 00:31:21,379 --> 00:31:24,132 [Christine] I want to video journal where we're going right now. 608 00:31:25,258 --> 00:31:29,470 Tolga and I are on the way to talk to the FBI. 609 00:31:31,222 --> 00:31:34,434 It's complicated because, like, two hours ago, 610 00:31:34,517 --> 00:31:37,061 many of these girls were at my house. 611 00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:38,938 [poignant music playing] 612 00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:42,692 If they know that I am the one turning stuff in, 613 00:31:43,776 --> 00:31:46,696 then they will never trust an outsider again. 614 00:31:47,322 --> 00:31:50,450 [Tolga] Well, this is what you do, baby. You're trying to stop child rape. 615 00:31:50,533 --> 00:31:53,369 -This is no joke. -I have to speak up. There's not a choice. 616 00:31:53,453 --> 00:31:56,122 [Tolga] That's what I'm saying. So you don't have a choice. 617 00:32:06,883 --> 00:32:08,301 [pensive music playing] 618 00:32:08,384 --> 00:32:10,511 [Christine] When we went to the FBI office, 619 00:32:11,429 --> 00:32:14,557 I spoke to FBI agent Dawn Martin. 620 00:32:16,309 --> 00:32:19,062 [Dawn] By the time this case was presented to me, 621 00:32:19,145 --> 00:32:20,897 I had been with the Bureau 18 years. 622 00:32:20,980 --> 00:32:24,525 I had spent the previous ten years working child sex crimes. 623 00:32:25,526 --> 00:32:28,613 This case was brought to us by local law enforcement. 624 00:32:28,696 --> 00:32:31,532 They told me about Christine and Tolga, 625 00:32:31,616 --> 00:32:34,953 who had lived in the community for several years 626 00:32:35,036 --> 00:32:37,455 and had provided these video recordings. 627 00:32:38,748 --> 00:32:42,919 My understanding is some of the agencies had incriminating videos 628 00:32:43,002 --> 00:32:45,546 as early as November of '21. 629 00:32:46,547 --> 00:32:49,133 I don't know why it took 'em so long to come to the FBI. 630 00:32:50,927 --> 00:32:55,390 Christine had spent evidently many, many months 631 00:32:55,473 --> 00:32:58,726 trying to get somebody to listen and to do something. 632 00:32:59,769 --> 00:33:02,605 The first recording that I heard was related 633 00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:06,067 to a November incident in a Bentley. 634 00:33:06,734 --> 00:33:10,947 [Sam] There could not be anything worse than another man screwing my girls. 635 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:14,033 When somebody brags about having young girls 636 00:33:14,117 --> 00:33:16,244 involved in sex acts with other men, 637 00:33:16,744 --> 00:33:18,788 how can you not investigate that? 638 00:33:19,372 --> 00:33:20,832 [Tolga] Okay, it's rolling. Go ahead. 639 00:33:20,915 --> 00:33:22,834 [Dawn] There were 23 wives, 640 00:33:22,917 --> 00:33:25,086 nine of which were minor children. 641 00:33:25,628 --> 00:33:26,963 [intriguing music playing] 642 00:33:27,046 --> 00:33:29,215 I realized that it needed to be taken care of 643 00:33:29,298 --> 00:33:32,510 and taken care of in a more expeditious manner. 644 00:33:33,511 --> 00:33:35,388 I just remember 645 00:33:36,723 --> 00:33:41,477 feeling like finally somebody is sharing this burden with me. 646 00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:44,147 Hide that. Hop in. 647 00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:49,569 [Dawn] We try not to divulge names of sources or confidential informants, 648 00:33:50,153 --> 00:33:54,782 but I will say that Christine was in a unique position to provide information. 649 00:33:55,366 --> 00:33:57,827 [Christine] Well, I'm going to spend a lot more time over there. 650 00:33:57,910 --> 00:33:59,495 -That is my goal. -[Tolga] Yeah. 651 00:34:00,163 --> 00:34:01,873 [Dawn] When you start an investigation, 652 00:34:01,956 --> 00:34:04,083 you do a little bit of a background check, 653 00:34:04,167 --> 00:34:07,837 and I didn't have any concerns working so closely with them 654 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,051 because they were providing video evidence as raw footage. 655 00:34:13,134 --> 00:34:14,302 [computer chimes] 656 00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:16,763 It was definitely an unusual set of circumstances. 657 00:34:16,846 --> 00:34:19,766 Not very often do you have somebody 658 00:34:19,849 --> 00:34:23,436 willing to and wanting to be recorded all of the time. 659 00:34:24,979 --> 00:34:29,150 Especially talking about some of the heinous crimes he was committing. 660 00:34:30,359 --> 00:34:33,404 But it is very difficult to prosecute a case 661 00:34:33,488 --> 00:34:35,239 without someone to testify 662 00:34:35,323 --> 00:34:37,867 that they were the victim of a crime. 663 00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:40,244 We did not have that. 664 00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:44,290 [Christine] I always feel inspired when I come here. 665 00:34:44,373 --> 00:34:46,125 -[Sam's wives chuckling] -[baby cooing] 666 00:34:46,209 --> 00:34:49,087 [Dawn] Christine was putting her all into this. 667 00:34:49,587 --> 00:34:51,089 Him and them. 668 00:34:51,756 --> 00:34:53,716 [Dawn] She was there every day. 669 00:34:54,467 --> 00:34:57,053 -[Sam] I'm a billionaire. -[Tolga] You are? Already? 670 00:34:57,136 --> 00:34:58,429 Put a price on one girl. 671 00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:01,933 I'm the richest man on Earth 672 00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:04,977 because Heavenly Father blessed me with these girls. 673 00:35:05,603 --> 00:35:07,897 [Christine] I started to drop hints 674 00:35:07,980 --> 00:35:09,774 a little more directly. 675 00:35:09,857 --> 00:35:11,859 Can I make a comment right here? 676 00:35:11,943 --> 00:35:14,445 Okay, so there's a book called The Gift of Fear, 677 00:35:14,529 --> 00:35:16,781 and I actually would recommend you all read it 678 00:35:16,864 --> 00:35:19,534 because it's how to stay safe from predators. 679 00:35:20,201 --> 00:35:22,578 I asked that because of my own personal story 680 00:35:22,662 --> 00:35:24,205 because there were actual things 681 00:35:24,288 --> 00:35:27,500 to help you really spot people who have bad intentions. 682 00:35:28,376 --> 00:35:31,629 If somebody ignores when you say no, 683 00:35:32,713 --> 00:35:35,174 um, that is a red flag. 684 00:35:35,258 --> 00:35:37,635 That's what I'm saying. Be bold and blunt. 685 00:35:37,718 --> 00:35:40,763 If you say no, you mean it. 686 00:35:40,847 --> 00:35:43,349 [Christine] It's very good for you guys to be aware of this. 687 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,187 [Sam] Somehow we've got to step up out of this immorality. 688 00:35:48,855 --> 00:35:52,900 And if there's some way that I could be used as an instrument to help step up. 689 00:35:52,984 --> 00:35:54,443 Lift your mind to a loftier spirit. 690 00:35:54,527 --> 00:35:56,362 -There's something better out there… -Yeah. 691 00:35:56,445 --> 00:35:58,865 …than just lusting after women. 692 00:36:00,283 --> 00:36:05,663 I was hoping that one of the women would think for themselves. 693 00:36:05,746 --> 00:36:08,416 [pensive music playing] 694 00:36:14,255 --> 00:36:17,341 [whimpering, barking] 695 00:36:17,425 --> 00:36:22,805 [Christine] And then I started to notice Julia coming over to my house 696 00:36:22,889 --> 00:36:25,558 with her little toddler, visiting the animals. 697 00:36:25,641 --> 00:36:26,976 [chicks cheeping] 698 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,104 I was happy about that because usually 699 00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:32,565 people who followed Sam didn't come over alone. 700 00:36:32,648 --> 00:36:34,775 Well, she came over more than once. 701 00:36:38,237 --> 00:36:43,034 I even saw her one time raking leaves in my yard. 702 00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:48,456 I realized she was coming up with reasons to come over here. 703 00:36:52,126 --> 00:36:53,169 Bingo. 704 00:36:54,837 --> 00:36:56,339 That's when it hit me. 705 00:36:58,299 --> 00:37:01,177 Julia has something to tell me. 706 00:37:03,930 --> 00:37:07,058 I mean, I had been dreaming of the moment 707 00:37:07,141 --> 00:37:09,018 that somebody would come to me. 708 00:37:11,687 --> 00:37:14,732 [Julia] I sensed that Christine 709 00:37:15,775 --> 00:37:17,818 was making herself available. 710 00:37:17,902 --> 00:37:20,071 [somber music playing] 711 00:37:20,154 --> 00:37:23,115 I did wonder if she was the one I could go to 712 00:37:23,616 --> 00:37:25,159 and ask for this help. 713 00:37:25,743 --> 00:37:29,622 And then I caught myself, and I'm like, "There's no way, you cannot say this." 714 00:37:30,206 --> 00:37:31,499 I said, 715 00:37:31,582 --> 00:37:34,252 "I want you to know that anything you tell me, 716 00:37:34,752 --> 00:37:36,754 I am not gonna tell Sam." 717 00:37:38,464 --> 00:37:40,508 She starts to tell me some things. 718 00:37:41,509 --> 00:37:42,885 She was really general. 719 00:37:43,386 --> 00:37:44,387 She let me know 720 00:37:45,638 --> 00:37:47,890 there was a lot of suffering going on. 721 00:37:49,058 --> 00:37:52,019 But she didn't come out and say anything negative about Sam. 722 00:37:53,688 --> 00:37:57,024 I thought, "I know exactly what to do." 723 00:37:57,525 --> 00:38:02,154 I decided it was time that I tell her my story. 724 00:38:05,992 --> 00:38:07,952 [Julia] We went in on her kitchen table, 725 00:38:09,412 --> 00:38:11,497 and she got out a file box. 726 00:38:12,164 --> 00:38:13,457 [Christine] So look at this. 727 00:38:15,334 --> 00:38:17,586 [Julia] And she started to tell me a story. 728 00:38:20,423 --> 00:38:23,634 She started to tell how her mind was led, 729 00:38:23,718 --> 00:38:26,429 deceitfully, little by little, 730 00:38:26,512 --> 00:38:29,056 by a false prophet 731 00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:30,558 to do things 732 00:38:30,641 --> 00:38:33,144 that she'd have never done ever. 733 00:38:34,937 --> 00:38:36,981 [Christine] I too had been deceived. 734 00:38:37,481 --> 00:38:40,943 I believed that I was the wife of a prophet. 735 00:38:42,695 --> 00:38:45,156 My false prophet told me, 736 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,241 "Obedience is everything." 737 00:38:48,868 --> 00:38:51,620 "Obedience is the key to eternal life." 738 00:38:51,704 --> 00:38:53,205 [somber music continues] 739 00:38:59,045 --> 00:39:01,547 He told me I needed to go through tests. 740 00:39:02,256 --> 00:39:05,176 It started in small steps. 741 00:39:05,259 --> 00:39:10,139 I had to sell things that were very precious to me. 742 00:39:13,517 --> 00:39:14,894 I complied. 743 00:39:15,561 --> 00:39:18,522 I had already sacrificed my business. 744 00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:20,066 And then 745 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,527 he told me I had to 746 00:39:24,236 --> 00:39:26,030 be separated from my children. 747 00:39:27,031 --> 00:39:29,241 Then I had to go 748 00:39:30,034 --> 00:39:32,244 live among the poor and needy 749 00:39:32,328 --> 00:39:34,580 and be abased before men. 750 00:39:41,629 --> 00:39:44,090 I believed that there would be, 751 00:39:44,799 --> 00:39:47,510 eventually, a divine payoff. 752 00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:52,932 And that meant I had to do what he said or risk my soul. 753 00:39:55,476 --> 00:39:57,978 I was basically sex trafficked. 754 00:40:00,231 --> 00:40:02,775 One of his directions was 755 00:40:03,567 --> 00:40:07,238 that he wanted proof that I was being sexually exploited. 756 00:40:07,321 --> 00:40:08,280 So… 757 00:40:10,324 --> 00:40:12,326 somebody, a man, 758 00:40:13,035 --> 00:40:14,495 took a picture of me. 759 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,540 Little by little, 760 00:40:17,623 --> 00:40:20,126 with each test and each rebuke, 761 00:40:21,043 --> 00:40:22,503 I got more confused. 762 00:40:23,003 --> 00:40:24,922 I couldn't even recognize myself. 763 00:40:27,716 --> 00:40:30,261 He said I had to go through tests first 764 00:40:30,344 --> 00:40:32,805 to be worthy of being a prophet's wife. 765 00:40:32,888 --> 00:40:35,891 This whole underlined part right here. 766 00:40:35,975 --> 00:40:38,144 [Christine] Does that remind you of Samuel? 767 00:40:40,020 --> 00:40:40,896 Yeah. 768 00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:42,773 A lot of it does. 769 00:40:44,358 --> 00:40:46,026 It's just disgusting. 770 00:40:47,611 --> 00:40:48,946 And I just broke down. 771 00:40:50,489 --> 00:40:52,241 And I started to just say… 772 00:40:52,324 --> 00:40:55,369 [unsettling music playing] 773 00:40:55,453 --> 00:40:58,247 "…We are in deep trouble with sexual sins 774 00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:00,332 under this… 775 00:41:02,835 --> 00:41:04,670 false idea of religion." 776 00:41:07,173 --> 00:41:09,884 And I knew that to get help, 777 00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:12,803 I needed to reveal to this woman 778 00:41:12,887 --> 00:41:15,556 the sickening things I've done 779 00:41:16,348 --> 00:41:17,516 and been a part of. 780 00:41:20,269 --> 00:41:22,688 [music fades] 781 00:41:22,771 --> 00:41:24,773 [enigmatic music playing] 782 00:42:18,827 --> 00:42:21,330 [music fades] 58118

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