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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:03,759 Dirty Wars (2013) - Bluray 2 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:22,650 Kabul, Afghanistan, 3 00:00:22,695 --> 00:00:24,094 4:00 in the morning. 4 00:00:26,391 --> 00:00:27,693 As an American journalist, 5 00:00:27,699 --> 00:00:30,263 I was used to filing stories in the middle of the night. 6 00:00:31,471 --> 00:00:33,462 But there's always something eerie 7 00:00:33,506 --> 00:00:35,498 driving through the deserted streets. 8 00:00:36,710 --> 00:00:38,939 A city of 3 million- 9 00:00:38,978 --> 00:00:40,605 barely a streetlight on. 10 00:00:45,384 --> 00:00:47,069 It was a familiar routine: 11 00:00:47,108 --> 00:00:49,051 Waiting for the crew to light up the night sky 12 00:00:49,089 --> 00:00:51,215 so you could see something in the background. 13 00:00:53,025 --> 00:00:55,425 But what could we really see? 14 00:00:55,461 --> 00:00:57,656 Well, Keith, greetings from Kabul, Afghanistan, 15 00:00:57,697 --> 00:00:59,790 where the U.S. Ambassador Karl Eikenberry... 16 00:00:59,832 --> 00:01:02,494 This is a story about the seen 17 00:01:02,535 --> 00:01:04,127 and the unseen... 18 00:01:07,756 --> 00:01:09,883 And about things hidden in plain sight. 19 00:01:21,420 --> 00:01:23,821 It's hard to say when this story began. 20 00:01:23,856 --> 00:01:25,721 I'd been working as a war reporter 21 00:01:25,758 --> 00:01:27,350 for more than a decade 22 00:01:27,393 --> 00:01:30,829 in Yugoslavia, Iraq, and now Afghanistan. 23 00:01:33,399 --> 00:01:34,798 After nearly ten years, 24 00:01:34,834 --> 00:01:37,326 the war here wasn't exactly breaking news. 25 00:01:38,605 --> 00:01:39,629 I think there's, like- 26 00:01:39,673 --> 00:01:41,105 there's, like, eight rakes. 27 00:01:43,309 --> 00:01:44,640 One, two, three... 28 00:01:46,112 --> 00:01:47,238 We haven't been out here. 29 00:01:47,244 --> 00:01:48,508 What's the name of this village out here? 30 00:01:48,548 --> 00:01:49,548 Oh, I have no idea. 31 00:01:49,549 --> 00:01:50,549 They all blend in for me. 32 00:01:50,583 --> 00:01:51,709 Yeah. 33 00:01:58,858 --> 00:02:00,758 What's the focus of your campaign here? 34 00:02:00,793 --> 00:02:02,090 In southern Nangarhar, 35 00:02:02,128 --> 00:02:04,562 we're dealing with the Ashkar- 36 00:02:04,597 --> 00:02:06,064 Ashkael- 37 00:02:06,098 --> 00:02:08,828 uh, Asherkeil tribe. 38 00:02:08,868 --> 00:02:11,234 You know, the wording, uh, I'll get right 39 00:02:11,270 --> 00:02:13,534 probably when we leave next year, but... 40 00:02:13,573 --> 00:02:15,097 This was supposed to be the front line 41 00:02:15,141 --> 00:02:16,267 in the war on terror. 42 00:02:18,511 --> 00:02:21,309 From Kabul out on an exercise with the military 43 00:02:21,347 --> 00:02:22,905 and back to Kabul, 44 00:02:22,949 --> 00:02:26,545 the Afghan Press Corps was locked in a bubble. 45 00:02:26,587 --> 00:02:28,555 We were told that the battle for hearts and minds 46 00:02:28,589 --> 00:02:29,555 was being won 47 00:02:29,589 --> 00:02:30,681 as soldiers dug wells 48 00:02:30,723 --> 00:02:32,588 or drank tea with tribal elders. 49 00:02:35,261 --> 00:02:37,559 But I knew I was missing the story. 50 00:02:40,166 --> 00:02:41,428 There was another war, 51 00:02:41,467 --> 00:02:43,196 hinted at in press conferences 52 00:02:43,236 --> 00:02:45,466 and detailed in each morning's press release. 53 00:02:47,273 --> 00:02:49,867 December 14th, Zabul Province, 54 00:02:49,909 --> 00:02:51,433 a night raid. 55 00:02:51,477 --> 00:02:53,172 Four Taliban killed, 56 00:02:53,212 --> 00:02:55,077 three detained for questioning. 57 00:02:55,114 --> 00:02:56,809 No civilians injured. 58 00:02:58,885 --> 00:03:00,682 No one at NATO would give us anything more 59 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,915 than the lists of nighttime raids. 60 00:03:02,955 --> 00:03:05,389 No one even seemed to know who was doing the raids. 61 00:03:06,993 --> 00:03:09,223 And I wasn't going to find out if I stayed in Kabul. 62 00:03:32,755 --> 00:03:36,801 POLICE HEADQUARTERS JALALABAD, AFGHANISTAN 63 00:03:37,552 --> 00:03:43,141 This is the third raid in my district. 64 00:03:43,391 --> 00:03:47,812 13 or 14 people have been killed in all. 65 00:03:48,062 --> 00:03:50,356 They were innocent people. 66 00:03:50,658 --> 00:03:52,092 So what you're saying 67 00:03:52,138 --> 00:03:53,605 is that the Americans will come into a district 68 00:03:53,639 --> 00:03:54,765 where you're the police commander, 69 00:03:54,807 --> 00:03:56,741 and they won't inform you that they're gonna carry out 70 00:03:56,776 --> 00:03:58,252 this kind of action in your district. 71 00:03:58,364 --> 00:04:06,206 I've asked the American soldiers that come to my district. 72 00:04:06,456 --> 00:04:08,457 But even the main NATO base here says 73 00:04:08,487 --> 00:04:11,168 they don't know anything about the raids. 74 00:04:11,198 --> 00:04:14,214 The troops came from another base. 75 00:04:22,902 --> 00:04:24,369 So there's the two- 76 00:04:24,403 --> 00:04:26,735 the two men in the guesthouse were the first people killed. 77 00:04:29,275 --> 00:04:31,971 And then... 78 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,279 The farmer from here. 79 00:04:35,381 --> 00:04:36,973 - Yeah. - And then another farmer. 80 00:04:37,016 --> 00:04:38,040 Two. Two of his sons. 81 00:04:38,084 --> 00:04:39,346 Two. 82 00:04:39,385 --> 00:04:40,409 - Mm-hmm. - Two of his sons. 83 00:04:40,453 --> 00:04:41,647 So there's, I think- so seven. 84 00:04:41,687 --> 00:04:42,745 Or two- 85 00:04:42,788 --> 00:04:44,228 - Two, two---four. One farmer---five. 86 00:04:44,256 --> 00:04:45,256 Two these--- seven. 87 00:04:45,291 --> 00:04:48,055 Two... 88 00:04:54,462 --> 00:04:56,463 The Americans will say anything. 89 00:04:56,493 --> 00:05:01,135 The Americans will say anything, everyone knows that. 90 00:05:01,469 --> 00:05:03,429 If the Americans do this again, 91 00:05:03,596 --> 00:05:06,557 we are ready to shed our blood fighting them. 92 00:05:07,642 --> 00:05:12,438 We would rather die than sit by and do nothing. 93 00:05:25,531 --> 00:05:27,396 The list of raids from NATO press releases 94 00:05:27,433 --> 00:05:29,367 read like a map of a hidden war. 95 00:05:32,828 --> 00:05:35,558 The military divided the roads in Afghanistan by color. 96 00:05:36,575 --> 00:05:37,872 Green was safe. 97 00:05:37,910 --> 00:05:39,104 Red was dangerous. 98 00:05:39,145 --> 00:05:40,169 And black? 99 00:05:40,212 --> 00:05:41,339 Don't even try it. 100 00:05:43,116 --> 00:05:44,396 Most of the raids were happening 101 00:05:44,418 --> 00:05:46,009 far beyond the green zone 102 00:05:46,052 --> 00:05:48,850 in what the military called "denied areas"... 103 00:05:50,256 --> 00:05:51,848 Places where journalists never show up 104 00:05:51,891 --> 00:05:52,949 to ask questions. 105 00:05:56,395 --> 00:05:57,919 NATO, the U.S. Embassy, 106 00:05:57,963 --> 00:05:59,123 and my own better judgment 107 00:05:59,165 --> 00:06:02,032 all advised against traveling there. 108 00:06:02,068 --> 00:06:04,161 But I'd read about a raid in Gardez, 109 00:06:04,203 --> 00:06:06,397 half a day's drive in Paktia Province. 110 00:06:09,442 --> 00:06:11,808 I pushed as far as I could into the gray area 111 00:06:11,844 --> 00:06:14,278 on the fraying edge of NATO's control, 112 00:06:14,313 --> 00:06:15,780 past rusting Russian tanks 113 00:06:15,815 --> 00:06:17,976 and bombed-out NATO supply convoys. 114 00:06:20,219 --> 00:06:22,710 Two other journalists had been kidnapped on this road, 115 00:06:22,755 --> 00:06:23,983 and after weeks 116 00:06:24,023 --> 00:06:25,854 in the military's armored vehicles, 117 00:06:25,891 --> 00:06:28,724 our Toyota felt thin-skinned and fragile. 118 00:06:30,897 --> 00:06:33,525 I knew I had to be back in Kabul before sunset, 119 00:06:33,567 --> 00:06:35,727 when the Taliban took control of the roads. 120 00:06:36,735 --> 00:06:37,963 But I had no idea how far 121 00:06:38,003 --> 00:06:39,971 my visit to Gardez would lead me. 122 00:06:40,193 --> 00:06:43,237 GARDEZ PAKTIA PROVINCE 123 00:06:45,281 --> 00:06:47,074 This is my son, and this is my son, 124 00:06:47,104 --> 00:06:49,076 and this is my daughter-in-law, 125 00:06:49,106 --> 00:06:51,204 and this is my granddaughter. 126 00:06:51,829 --> 00:06:56,834 They killed them all on a single day. 127 00:06:57,293 --> 00:07:02,382 Two of the women they killed were pregnant. 128 00:07:02,548 --> 00:07:06,552 One was 5 months, the other was 4 months pregnant. 129 00:07:07,762 --> 00:07:09,806 A child had been born in our home 130 00:07:10,014 --> 00:07:13,059 and we had organized a party to celebrate. 131 00:07:14,644 --> 00:07:18,731 We invited many guests and had music. 132 00:07:20,525 --> 00:07:24,152 During the party, people were dancing 133 00:07:24,182 --> 00:07:28,699 our traditional dance, the attan. 134 00:07:41,462 --> 00:07:46,509 The American forces came between 3:30 and 4:00 am. 135 00:07:47,343 --> 00:07:49,719 Daoud went to see what was happening. 136 00:07:49,749 --> 00:07:51,806 He thought the Taliban had come. 137 00:07:53,599 --> 00:07:56,644 They were already on the roof. 138 00:08:00,273 --> 00:08:03,525 They shot Daoud as soon as he stepped outside. 139 00:08:03,555 --> 00:08:05,736 All the children were shouting, 140 00:08:05,903 --> 00:08:08,865 "Daoud is shot! Daoud is shot!" 141 00:08:09,031 --> 00:08:11,283 We brought Daoud in here. 142 00:08:11,313 --> 00:08:12,576 The women grabbed Zaher. 143 00:08:12,606 --> 00:08:15,746 They told him not to go or he would be killed. 144 00:08:15,913 --> 00:08:17,748 But they opened fire. 145 00:08:18,624 --> 00:08:21,752 They killed three women, along with Zaher. 146 00:08:21,919 --> 00:08:27,061 My wife, my sister, and my niece. 147 00:08:27,091 --> 00:08:31,053 Look at these patched bullet holes. 148 00:08:39,024 --> 00:08:40,889 Was Mr. Daoud killed immediately, 149 00:08:40,926 --> 00:08:43,010 or did he live for a while after he was shot? 150 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:48,154 Daoud and my sister-in-law were alive until 7:00 am. 151 00:08:49,071 --> 00:08:53,034 They didn't let us take them to the hospital. 152 00:08:53,534 --> 00:08:58,706 The Americans used knives to dig the bullets out of their bodies. 153 00:08:58,945 --> 00:09:01,913 They pulled out the bullets from their body. 154 00:09:01,947 --> 00:09:04,074 You saw the U.S. Forces 155 00:09:04,116 --> 00:09:05,913 take the bullets out of the body? 156 00:09:06,964 --> 00:09:08,216 Ja. 157 00:09:12,678 --> 00:09:15,515 They tied our hands and blindfolded us. 158 00:09:16,849 --> 00:09:18,226 Two people grabbed us. 159 00:09:18,392 --> 00:09:21,479 They pushed us one by one into the aircraft. 160 00:09:23,481 --> 00:09:25,483 They flew us to another province. 161 00:09:26,984 --> 00:09:28,236 To Paktika. 162 00:09:30,562 --> 00:09:33,907 So he had just seen his wife killed by the American forces, 163 00:09:33,946 --> 00:09:37,245 and then he himself was taken prisoner by the Americans. 164 00:09:37,283 --> 00:09:39,283 What was going through his head when they took him? 165 00:09:39,539 --> 00:09:42,457 My senses weren't working at all. I couldn't cry. 166 00:09:42,487 --> 00:09:45,002 I was numb and didn't feel a thing. 167 00:09:45,169 --> 00:09:49,215 I didn't eat for three days and nights. 168 00:09:49,382 --> 00:09:52,802 My hands and clothes were caked with blood. 169 00:09:52,969 --> 00:09:57,139 They didn't give us water to wash the blood away. 170 00:09:57,390 --> 00:10:01,268 The interrogators had beards and didn't wear American uniforms. 171 00:10:01,298 --> 00:10:07,411 They had big muscles. Sometimes they acted nice. 172 00:10:07,441 --> 00:10:09,526 And sometimes they would shake us. 173 00:10:09,556 --> 00:10:11,069 By the time I got home, 174 00:10:11,099 --> 00:10:15,032 all our dead had already been buried. 175 00:10:15,199 --> 00:10:19,131 Only my father and my brother were left at home. I didn't want to live anymore. 176 00:10:19,161 --> 00:10:21,509 I wanted to wear a suicide jacket 177 00:10:21,539 --> 00:10:25,001 and blow myself up among the Americans. 178 00:10:25,167 --> 00:10:27,223 But my brother and my father wouldn't let me. 179 00:10:27,253 --> 00:10:29,922 I wanted Jihad against the Americans. 180 00:10:34,969 --> 00:10:38,347 MOHAMMED DAOUD 1:00 AM - FEBRUARY 12, 2010 181 00:10:45,980 --> 00:10:48,941 MOHAMMED DAOUD 2:00 PM - FEBRUARY 12, 2010 182 00:11:26,993 --> 00:11:28,289 The family had no idea 183 00:11:28,327 --> 00:11:30,022 what led the Americans to their home. 184 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,152 MOHAMMED DAOUD POLICE COMMANDER, GARDEZ 185 00:11:33,598 --> 00:11:35,828 They had long fought against the Taliban, 186 00:11:35,867 --> 00:11:37,630 and Daoud was a police commander 187 00:11:37,668 --> 00:11:40,297 who'd been through dozens of U.S. training programs. 188 00:11:40,451 --> 00:11:42,506 This is my son, the Police Commander. 189 00:11:42,536 --> 00:11:44,121 Was he Taliban? 190 00:11:45,349 --> 00:11:47,193 [untranslated] 191 00:11:49,669 --> 00:11:53,005 They said they had information that 50 Taliban were here. 192 00:11:53,172 --> 00:11:58,010 But they were all my relatives, and they worked for the government. 193 00:11:58,177 --> 00:12:01,639 They killed my innocent sons, daughter, and daughter-in-law. 194 00:12:01,847 --> 00:12:08,604 They had committed no sin and had no enemies. 195 00:12:12,516 --> 00:12:14,109 As we prepared to leave, 196 00:12:14,176 --> 00:12:16,406 Daoud's granddaughter spoke to us, 197 00:12:16,609 --> 00:12:19,702 but only later would I know the meaning of her words. 198 00:12:19,730 --> 00:12:29,855 [Translated later in the film] 199 00:12:31,323 --> 00:12:33,553 Daoud's family told me it was time to go. 200 00:12:33,592 --> 00:12:35,719 The sun sets early in the mountains, 201 00:12:35,796 --> 00:12:37,491 and the night belongs to the Taliban. 202 00:12:55,382 --> 00:12:58,530 [Gunfire] 203 00:12:59,123 --> 00:13:00,983 So the highway's closed. 204 00:13:06,913 --> 00:13:09,631 I think there is an attack from Taliban. 205 00:13:15,534 --> 00:13:17,832 The gunfire continued, 206 00:13:17,870 --> 00:13:19,861 and it was now obvious how dangerous, 207 00:13:19,905 --> 00:13:21,964 maybe even reckless the trip had been. 208 00:13:25,277 --> 00:13:26,710 Mm-hmm. 209 00:13:29,146 --> 00:13:31,589 NATO wasted no time issuing a report. 210 00:13:32,018 --> 00:13:33,822 They claimed that the women killed in Gardez 211 00:13:33,838 --> 00:13:36,420 were the victims of a Taliban honor killing, 212 00:13:36,455 --> 00:13:37,581 bound and gagged 213 00:13:37,623 --> 00:13:39,732 by their own murderous families. 214 00:13:39,927 --> 00:13:42,193 You saw the U.S. Forces 215 00:13:42,227 --> 00:13:43,990 take the bullets out of the body? 216 00:13:44,047 --> 00:13:48,930 [Untranslated] 217 00:13:49,288 --> 00:13:50,448 I believed the family, 218 00:13:50,995 --> 00:13:52,426 but that wasn't enough 219 00:13:53,439 --> 00:13:55,564 for me or anyone else. 220 00:13:55,606 --> 00:13:57,506 [Speaking indistinctly] 221 00:13:57,542 --> 00:13:59,963 Who were these men that stormed into Daoud's home? 222 00:14:00,950 --> 00:14:03,026 And why would they go to such horrifying lengths 223 00:14:03,048 --> 00:14:04,481 to cover up their actions? 224 00:14:05,054 --> 00:14:08,224 Tamana. Who did the Americans kill? 225 00:14:10,726 --> 00:14:13,604 They killed my grandfather... 226 00:14:13,854 --> 00:14:15,815 ...and Gulalai. 227 00:14:16,065 --> 00:14:19,235 And they killed Agha Abdulnoor. 228 00:14:27,906 --> 00:14:29,032 All right. 229 00:14:29,074 --> 00:14:30,564 Ready? Yeah. 230 00:14:30,609 --> 00:14:32,941 One, two, three. 231 00:14:42,621 --> 00:14:43,781 Good morning. 232 00:14:43,822 --> 00:14:45,948 The subcommittee will come to order. 233 00:14:45,990 --> 00:14:49,119 The subject is national security. 234 00:14:49,265 --> 00:14:52,226 HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WASHINGTON, DC 235 00:14:53,332 --> 00:14:54,993 If my esteemed friend, 236 00:14:55,033 --> 00:14:56,398 the gentleman from Michigan, 237 00:14:56,435 --> 00:14:58,232 wishes to continue with this hearing, 238 00:14:58,270 --> 00:14:59,532 I think that's fine. 239 00:14:59,571 --> 00:15:01,766 He is the chairman. 240 00:15:01,807 --> 00:15:02,933 But next year, 241 00:15:02,975 --> 00:15:05,603 when this committee is under new management, 242 00:15:05,644 --> 00:15:07,475 we won't be looking at the calendar 243 00:15:07,512 --> 00:15:09,571 of last year or two years ago. 244 00:15:09,615 --> 00:15:10,707 Thank you. 245 00:15:12,851 --> 00:15:15,445 Far from discussing the distant past, 246 00:15:15,487 --> 00:15:17,148 I'd like to share with this committee 247 00:15:17,189 --> 00:15:19,885 part of my investigation into deadly U.S. night raids... 248 00:15:19,925 --> 00:15:22,223 Sensenbrenner walked out, 249 00:15:22,260 --> 00:15:23,940 but no one else even bothered to show up... 250 00:15:25,330 --> 00:15:26,888 Just Chairman Conyers and his staffers. 251 00:15:26,932 --> 00:15:28,899 In closing, Mr. Ohairman, I told these families 252 00:15:28,933 --> 00:15:31,425 that I'd bring their cases before the U.S. Congress 253 00:15:31,470 --> 00:15:32,993 and ask that they be investigated 254 00:15:33,037 --> 00:15:35,506 and that those responsible be held accountable. 255 00:15:35,540 --> 00:15:36,740 On behalf of those families... 256 00:15:36,742 --> 00:15:38,073 It didn't surprise me 257 00:15:38,110 --> 00:15:40,738 that Washington wasn't interested in Gardez. 258 00:15:40,779 --> 00:15:42,644 As an investigative reporter, 259 00:15:42,681 --> 00:15:44,444 you rarely have people's attention. 260 00:15:45,353 --> 00:15:48,083 More often than not, you work alone, 261 00:15:48,209 --> 00:15:51,042 and the stories you labor over fall on deaf ears. 262 00:15:52,658 --> 00:15:54,956 But sometimes a story strikes a nerve, 263 00:15:54,993 --> 00:15:57,723 and you're thrown into the public arena. 264 00:15:57,763 --> 00:15:59,560 It happened to me once before. 265 00:15:59,598 --> 00:16:00,656 During its time in Iraq, 266 00:16:00,699 --> 00:16:02,690 Blackwater has regularly engaged in firefights 267 00:16:02,734 --> 00:16:03,996 and other deadly incidents... 268 00:16:04,036 --> 00:16:05,594 It was 2007, 269 00:16:05,637 --> 00:16:07,264 and I was reporting on Blackwater, 270 00:16:07,305 --> 00:16:09,535 a shadowy mercenary company, 271 00:16:09,574 --> 00:16:11,701 and suddenly it was front-page news. 272 00:16:11,743 --> 00:16:13,711 A frequent contributor to The Nation magazine, 273 00:16:13,745 --> 00:16:15,177 his new book is called Blackwater. 274 00:16:15,212 --> 00:16:16,975 Jeremy Scahill, who authored the book Blackwater... 275 00:16:17,014 --> 00:16:18,072 Who's come to us from London... 276 00:16:18,115 --> 00:16:19,480 Joining me now is Jeremy Scahill. 277 00:16:19,517 --> 00:16:20,576 I quickly discovered 278 00:16:20,619 --> 00:16:22,712 that the world of talk show television 279 00:16:22,754 --> 00:16:24,244 is less a meeting place for ideas 280 00:16:24,289 --> 00:16:25,756 and more like a boxing ring. 281 00:16:25,791 --> 00:16:26,917 That is hooey. 282 00:16:26,958 --> 00:16:28,152 $700 million 283 00:16:28,193 --> 00:16:30,024 for a colonial fortress in Pakistan. 284 00:16:30,062 --> 00:16:32,394 The whole thing feels like a game. 285 00:16:32,431 --> 00:16:34,365 But every time you step into the ring, 286 00:16:34,399 --> 00:16:36,731 there's a chance your story can have an impact. 287 00:16:36,768 --> 00:16:38,326 Journalists have done nothing 288 00:16:38,370 --> 00:16:40,065 to hold the White House accountable now, 289 00:16:40,105 --> 00:16:41,663 Chuck, or under Bush. 290 00:16:41,707 --> 00:16:42,799 Let me get to the story- 291 00:16:42,841 --> 00:16:43,899 - Why are you still alive? 292 00:16:43,942 --> 00:16:44,966 Are you paranoid? 293 00:16:46,211 --> 00:16:47,508 No, I'm serious. I'm serious. 294 00:16:47,546 --> 00:16:49,480 I mean, it's an amazing book that you've written, 295 00:16:49,514 --> 00:16:51,311 and I'm curious that- "Oh, that guy had a"- 296 00:16:51,349 --> 00:16:52,543 "Remember that guy we did Maher with?" 297 00:16:52,584 --> 00:16:53,608 "Oh, he's dead." "What happened?" 298 00:16:53,652 --> 00:16:54,852 "He had an accident." I mean... 299 00:16:54,886 --> 00:16:56,012 And here are the- 300 00:16:58,056 --> 00:17:01,025 Residents are being picked up, abducted... 301 00:17:01,059 --> 00:17:02,616 Congress wasn't going to investigate 302 00:17:02,660 --> 00:17:04,389 the raid in Gardez. 303 00:17:04,428 --> 00:17:05,952 And my Freedom of Information requests 304 00:17:05,996 --> 00:17:07,588 were bounced all over the military, 305 00:17:07,631 --> 00:17:10,761 ending up in an unnamed agency awaiting review. 306 00:17:13,138 --> 00:17:15,072 I reached out to everyone I could in Washington- 307 00:17:15,107 --> 00:17:17,871 the CIA, State Department, 308 00:17:17,909 --> 00:17:19,809 former military officials- 309 00:17:19,845 --> 00:17:22,405 but no one would speak openly about Gardez... 310 00:17:23,290 --> 00:17:25,152 Until I met with General Hugh Shelton, 311 00:17:25,452 --> 00:17:27,871 Chairman of the Joint Chiefs on 9/11. 312 00:17:28,465 --> 00:17:31,427 GEN. HUGH SHELTON CHAIRMAN, JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF 313 00:17:32,124 --> 00:17:34,092 One incident that I looked into in Afghanistan, 314 00:17:34,126 --> 00:17:35,559 where an Afghan police commander 315 00:17:35,594 --> 00:17:37,221 and two pregnant women were killed- 316 00:17:37,262 --> 00:17:38,752 but the question I wanted to ask you is, 317 00:17:38,797 --> 00:17:40,560 in that kind of case- let's say that's true- 318 00:17:40,599 --> 00:17:42,159 how would something like that be handled 319 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,963 or investigated or reviewed? 320 00:17:44,002 --> 00:17:45,765 If they go flying in 321 00:17:45,804 --> 00:17:47,669 and meet any kind of resistance at all- 322 00:17:47,706 --> 00:17:49,434 I mean, shots are fired- 323 00:17:49,473 --> 00:17:51,441 then I'm sorry if they got killed, 324 00:17:51,475 --> 00:17:53,466 but they're in the wrong place at the wrong time, 325 00:17:53,511 --> 00:17:55,311 and I don't think it ought to be investigated. 326 00:17:55,346 --> 00:17:56,472 I think you write it off 327 00:17:56,514 --> 00:17:59,508 as one of those damn acts of war. 328 00:17:59,552 --> 00:18:01,781 But one of the victims was a senior police commander 329 00:18:01,820 --> 00:18:03,412 who had been trained by the U.S. 330 00:18:03,455 --> 00:18:04,888 And two of them were pregnant women. 331 00:18:04,923 --> 00:18:06,550 Now, just 'cause he's a police chief- 332 00:18:06,591 --> 00:18:08,525 he could've been a terrorist as well. 333 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,425 You know, he could've been working both sides, 334 00:18:10,462 --> 00:18:13,488 so that piece of it, although it sounds bad- 335 00:18:13,532 --> 00:18:15,830 but two pregnant women? 336 00:18:15,867 --> 00:18:19,598 The fact that they were pregnant is very, very unfortunate, 337 00:18:19,638 --> 00:18:21,765 but it's also unfortunate that they were women. 338 00:18:21,807 --> 00:18:23,604 But on the other hand, 339 00:18:23,642 --> 00:18:26,873 I've been shot at by women myself, 340 00:18:26,912 --> 00:18:28,209 so that doesn't- 341 00:18:28,246 --> 00:18:29,611 And I mean shot at. 342 00:18:29,648 --> 00:18:31,946 That doesn't excuse 'em. 343 00:18:31,983 --> 00:18:35,146 They die just like men do if they shoot at us, so... 344 00:18:41,892 --> 00:18:43,883 Congress wasn't interested. 345 00:18:43,928 --> 00:18:45,897 I was being stonewalled by the military. 346 00:18:45,931 --> 00:18:47,057 And General Shelton told me 347 00:18:47,098 --> 00:18:49,089 there should be no investigation. 348 00:18:50,380 --> 00:18:52,140 KAIA AIRPORT KABUL, AFGHANISTAN 349 00:18:52,170 --> 00:18:53,797 And back in Afghanistan, 350 00:18:53,839 --> 00:18:55,932 the reporter who first broke the Gardez story 351 00:18:55,974 --> 00:18:57,942 had been publicly attacked by NATO. 352 00:18:59,509 --> 00:19:01,483 JEROME STARKEY TIMES OF LONDON 353 00:19:01,513 --> 00:19:03,504 Yeah, we went to print on a Saturday. 354 00:19:06,885 --> 00:19:08,352 By Saturday afternoon, 355 00:19:08,386 --> 00:19:09,648 I was getting information 356 00:19:09,688 --> 00:19:11,679 from other journalists in Kabul who are my friends 357 00:19:11,723 --> 00:19:13,350 that NATO was briefing against me. 358 00:19:13,391 --> 00:19:15,018 NATO was trying to discredit me, 359 00:19:15,060 --> 00:19:16,857 trying to say that the story was inaccurate, 360 00:19:16,895 --> 00:19:18,829 and effectively trying to kill it dead. 361 00:19:19,769 --> 00:19:21,726 To my knowledge, that was the only time 362 00:19:21,826 --> 00:19:23,576 that they've named a journalist 363 00:19:23,634 --> 00:19:27,126 and sort of singled out a journalist so specifically 364 00:19:27,171 --> 00:19:28,638 in a denial. 365 00:19:28,672 --> 00:19:31,072 NATO accused Starkey of lying. 366 00:19:31,108 --> 00:19:33,873 It could have been enough to end a journalist's career. 367 00:19:33,912 --> 00:19:36,747 But information about Gardez kept leaking out. 368 00:19:37,310 --> 00:19:39,517 A secret UN investigation confirmed 369 00:19:39,551 --> 00:19:42,019 many of the details the family had told us, 370 00:19:42,053 --> 00:19:44,419 and an Afghan police inquiry was under way. 371 00:19:45,185 --> 00:19:47,146 MOHAMMED DAOUD 372 00:19:54,232 --> 00:19:56,860 I didn't realize what the family was showing me. 373 00:19:56,902 --> 00:19:58,426 It was just a grainy cell phone video 374 00:19:58,470 --> 00:19:59,903 from the morning after the attack... 375 00:19:59,938 --> 00:20:01,098 [indistinct conversation] 376 00:20:01,139 --> 00:20:02,504 Until the voices began. 377 00:20:02,510 --> 00:20:03,871 OK, the blood trail? This is it. 378 00:20:03,906 --> 00:20:06,175 This is the last room. This is where the engagement was. 379 00:20:06,199 --> 00:20:07,589 It comes the [inaudible]. 380 00:20:07,603 --> 00:20:09,136 There's a woman crying in the doorway. 381 00:20:09,142 --> 00:20:12,441 My group was emptying this room and that room there, OK. 382 00:20:12,746 --> 00:20:14,558 We pulled everyone out, OK? 383 00:20:15,589 --> 00:20:17,183 Now at that point, 384 00:20:17,261 --> 00:20:18,721 I'm watching what's going on here, 385 00:20:18,728 --> 00:20:20,333 I see it all go down, 386 00:20:20,402 --> 00:20:21,918 and we go behind them. White light, 387 00:20:21,988 --> 00:20:23,613 to make sure no one's hiding. 388 00:20:23,662 --> 00:20:24,686 When I get to here... 389 00:20:24,729 --> 00:20:25,890 Two Americans, 390 00:20:25,932 --> 00:20:27,408 their hands visible for a moment 391 00:20:27,414 --> 00:20:28,779 filming the corpses 392 00:20:28,934 --> 00:20:30,492 while they piece together their version 393 00:20:30,535 --> 00:20:31,695 of that night's killings. 394 00:20:31,940 --> 00:20:33,565 After everything's said and done, 395 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,799 still, two guys are hiding. 396 00:20:36,167 --> 00:20:38,049 NATO phoned me up, and they said, 397 00:20:38,055 --> 00:20:39,818 "Jerome, we're just calling to let you know 398 00:20:40,045 --> 00:20:41,770 "we're about to put out a press release. 399 00:20:41,776 --> 00:20:44,036 We are changing our version of events." 400 00:20:44,097 --> 00:20:47,066 They admitted that they were responsible 401 00:20:47,319 --> 00:20:50,720 for killing the three women 402 00:20:50,755 --> 00:20:53,383 and that the men they said were Taliban 403 00:20:53,425 --> 00:20:54,971 were not, in fact, Taliban. 404 00:20:54,977 --> 00:20:56,384 They admitted they'd got it wrong. 405 00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:58,156 Again, they were hoping it was gonna go away. 406 00:20:58,195 --> 00:20:59,323 Well, it wasn't. 407 00:20:59,363 --> 00:21:01,558 Like yourselves, we set off very early one morning 408 00:21:01,598 --> 00:21:03,759 from Kabul through Logar to Gardez... 409 00:21:04,902 --> 00:21:07,531 When up rolls a huge convoy 410 00:21:07,572 --> 00:21:10,973 of countless Afghan officers and soldiers. 411 00:21:11,009 --> 00:21:12,135 And among them is a man 412 00:21:12,177 --> 00:21:13,804 wearing a uniform that I recognize 413 00:21:13,845 --> 00:21:15,005 as sort of U.S. Marines, 414 00:21:15,046 --> 00:21:16,809 but it says U.S. Navy on his lapel. 415 00:21:16,848 --> 00:21:18,042 But I didn't know who he was. 416 00:21:18,083 --> 00:21:20,313 They off-loaded a sheep, 417 00:21:20,352 --> 00:21:22,479 and three Afghan soldiers knelt on this sheep 418 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,919 in exactly the same place 419 00:21:23,955 --> 00:21:26,947 where these soldiers had been when they started the raid. 420 00:21:26,992 --> 00:21:29,017 They were offering to sacrifice the sheep. 421 00:21:29,060 --> 00:21:31,585 The soldiers tried to stop Starkey's photographer, 422 00:21:31,629 --> 00:21:32,697 Jeremy Kelly, 423 00:21:32,703 --> 00:21:34,259 but the family insisted. 424 00:21:35,633 --> 00:21:37,066 Otherwise, there'd be no evidence 425 00:21:37,102 --> 00:21:39,696 that this extraordinary event occurred, 426 00:21:39,738 --> 00:21:42,206 no proof of who the killers were. 427 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,173 Like so much about this war, 428 00:21:44,208 --> 00:21:46,176 they would have remained unseen. 429 00:21:46,210 --> 00:21:49,008 He said that, "My soldiers were responsible 430 00:21:49,046 --> 00:21:52,072 for the deaths of these members of your family," 431 00:21:52,116 --> 00:21:53,875 and for that, he apologized. 432 00:21:54,273 --> 00:22:02,042 I would not trade my sons for the entire kingdom of the United States. 433 00:22:02,072 --> 00:22:06,213 America unleashes the Special Forces on us. 434 00:22:06,243 --> 00:22:09,216 And the Special Forces beat and kill poor, innocent people. 435 00:22:09,246 --> 00:22:15,711 These Special Forces with the beards did cruel, criminal things. 436 00:22:15,877 --> 00:22:17,838 They all have beards. 437 00:22:19,172 --> 00:22:21,508 We call them the American Taliban. 438 00:22:59,046 --> 00:23:01,006 BROOKLYN, NY 439 00:23:03,955 --> 00:23:05,252 I returned home 440 00:23:05,290 --> 00:23:08,282 and tried to put the story of Gardez behind me. 441 00:23:08,326 --> 00:23:09,918 But coming home is never easy. 442 00:23:14,732 --> 00:23:15,926 I didn't want to admit it, 443 00:23:15,967 --> 00:23:17,524 but life back home was dull 444 00:23:17,568 --> 00:23:18,933 after being in a war zone. 445 00:23:21,138 --> 00:23:22,799 Ordinary life was just that. 446 00:23:31,249 --> 00:23:33,012 I tried to forget about Gardez 447 00:23:33,051 --> 00:23:34,109 but couldn't. 448 00:23:34,152 --> 00:23:36,313 We pulled everyone out, okay? 449 00:23:37,255 --> 00:23:38,722 Now, at that point, 450 00:23:38,756 --> 00:23:40,485 I'm watching what's going on here. 451 00:23:40,525 --> 00:23:41,958 I see it all go down. Now... 452 00:23:41,993 --> 00:23:44,461 The video was chilling, 453 00:23:44,496 --> 00:23:46,487 but I couldn't see their faces. 454 00:23:46,531 --> 00:23:49,557 All I had were images of their hands 455 00:23:49,601 --> 00:23:50,932 and the sound of their voices. 456 00:23:50,969 --> 00:23:52,368 Okay, the blood trail. This is it. 457 00:23:52,403 --> 00:23:53,529 This is the last room. 458 00:23:53,571 --> 00:23:54,902 This is where the engagement was. 459 00:23:54,939 --> 00:23:56,372 He comes in here. There's- 460 00:23:56,407 --> 00:23:58,034 There's a woman crying in the doorway. 461 00:23:58,076 --> 00:24:01,307 None of these clues were supposed to exist- 462 00:24:01,346 --> 00:24:02,711 the cell phone video, 463 00:24:02,747 --> 00:24:04,737 the photos of the admiral and his sheep. 464 00:24:06,150 --> 00:24:08,618 The killers were meant to disappear without a trace. 465 00:24:11,288 --> 00:24:14,189 The family had called them "American Taliban." 466 00:24:14,224 --> 00:24:15,486 But who were they, 467 00:24:15,526 --> 00:24:17,927 these American soldiers with beards? 468 00:24:28,173 --> 00:24:29,773 As a reporter, you learn that every story 469 00:24:29,807 --> 00:24:31,799 has conflicting points of view. 470 00:24:33,011 --> 00:24:34,569 You try to understand all of them 471 00:24:34,612 --> 00:24:36,273 without letting your own get in the way. 472 00:24:38,383 --> 00:24:40,578 But there was something about this story 473 00:24:40,618 --> 00:24:42,108 and the way it was covered up. 474 00:24:44,322 --> 00:24:46,153 The photo of the admiral had seemed to answer 475 00:24:46,191 --> 00:24:47,681 our questions about the raid. 476 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:50,826 But the longer I looked at it, 477 00:24:50,861 --> 00:24:53,125 the less sense it made. 478 00:24:53,163 --> 00:24:55,154 I could read the name and rank, 479 00:24:55,199 --> 00:24:57,497 but who was this man delivering the sheep? 480 00:24:59,670 --> 00:25:01,001 Vice Admiral William McRaven 481 00:25:01,038 --> 00:25:03,472 wasn't from NATO Headquarters in Kabul, 482 00:25:03,507 --> 00:25:05,567 and he wasn't from the Eastern Regional Command 483 00:25:05,610 --> 00:25:07,009 that owned that battle space. 484 00:25:08,413 --> 00:25:11,541 I'd never seen the R01 insignia on his shoulder. 485 00:25:11,583 --> 00:25:14,074 And it was hard to find mention of him in the press, 486 00:25:14,118 --> 00:25:15,608 much less a photograph. 487 00:25:17,021 --> 00:25:20,354 But I found an old DOD press briefing from 2008 488 00:25:20,391 --> 00:25:22,086 that mentioned McRaven's nomination 489 00:25:22,126 --> 00:25:24,026 to lead an obscure unit within the military 490 00:25:24,062 --> 00:25:26,189 called JSOC, 491 00:25:26,231 --> 00:25:28,392 the Joint Special Operations Command. 492 00:25:31,035 --> 00:25:33,299 After more than a decade as a war reporter, 493 00:25:33,338 --> 00:25:36,205 I thought I knew most of the players involved, 494 00:25:36,241 --> 00:25:37,867 but I'd never heard of JSOC. 495 00:25:39,576 --> 00:25:41,544 There was little official record, 496 00:25:41,578 --> 00:25:43,671 but JSOC was formed in 1980 497 00:25:43,714 --> 00:25:46,148 after the failed hostage rescue mission in Iran. 498 00:25:47,150 --> 00:25:48,242 It was designed 499 00:25:48,285 --> 00:25:50,583 as the most covert unit in the military 500 00:25:50,621 --> 00:25:53,147 and the only one that reports directly to the White House. 501 00:25:55,593 --> 00:25:57,584 So why would the President's elite force 502 00:25:57,629 --> 00:26:00,393 be kicking down the doors on a family in Gardez? 503 00:26:02,233 --> 00:26:04,667 I knew Gardez wasn't an isolated incident 504 00:26:04,702 --> 00:26:07,432 and went back to NATO's daily press releases 505 00:26:07,472 --> 00:26:09,463 with their lists of killed and captured. 506 00:26:11,442 --> 00:26:14,240 I expected the list to be long, 507 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:16,179 but I had no idea how long. 508 00:26:17,949 --> 00:26:20,417 Every week, the tempo of raids increased. 509 00:26:20,451 --> 00:26:21,850 In the last three months, 510 00:26:21,886 --> 00:26:24,649 there had been 1700 night raids in Afghanistan. 511 00:26:25,956 --> 00:26:27,695 It was a staggering figure 512 00:26:27,875 --> 00:26:29,857 and meant that stories like the one in Gardez 513 00:26:29,863 --> 00:26:32,559 were unfolding nearly 20 times each night. 514 00:26:33,864 --> 00:26:36,492 An endless list of raids 515 00:26:36,533 --> 00:26:38,000 but not a single name. 516 00:26:40,672 --> 00:26:43,470 I could see that Gardez was part of a bigger story- 517 00:26:43,508 --> 00:26:44,873 much bigger. 518 00:26:44,909 --> 00:26:46,809 But the very thought of it was overwhelming. 519 00:26:48,246 --> 00:26:49,886 With 1700 raids, 520 00:26:50,244 --> 00:26:52,191 who would compile the list of the dead? 521 00:27:05,229 --> 00:27:06,526 The surge of night raids 522 00:27:06,564 --> 00:27:08,896 was clearly changing the war in Afghanistan. 523 00:27:11,302 --> 00:27:14,634 It didn't take long for JSOC's actions to ricochet. 524 00:27:14,671 --> 00:27:17,139 Matthew Hoh has become the first U.S. official 525 00:27:17,174 --> 00:27:20,837 to resign in protest over the Afghan war. 526 00:27:20,877 --> 00:27:22,708 Hoh is a former marine who spent five months 527 00:27:22,746 --> 00:27:24,941 working for the State Department in Afghanistan 528 00:27:24,981 --> 00:27:27,382 and is, by all accounts, well-respected. 529 00:27:30,859 --> 00:27:32,927 CPT. MATTHEW HOH FORMER STATE DEPT. OFFICIAL 530 00:27:32,957 --> 00:27:34,015 A lot of times, yeah, 531 00:27:34,058 --> 00:27:35,491 the right guys would get targeted, 532 00:27:35,526 --> 00:27:37,153 and the right guys would get killed. 533 00:27:37,195 --> 00:27:38,492 And then plenty of other times, 534 00:27:38,529 --> 00:27:39,894 the wrong people would get killed, 535 00:27:39,931 --> 00:27:41,660 sometimes innocent families. 536 00:27:41,699 --> 00:27:44,167 And then that sets you back so far. 537 00:27:44,202 --> 00:27:46,170 You know, nothing like going into a village 538 00:27:46,204 --> 00:27:48,171 in the middle of the night, knocking a door down, 539 00:27:48,205 --> 00:27:50,106 and, like, killing a woman or a child 540 00:27:50,141 --> 00:27:53,838 to just undo everything that infantry battalion command 541 00:27:53,878 --> 00:27:56,472 had been trying to do for, like, the last nine, ten months. 542 00:27:56,514 --> 00:27:57,538 You were in a position 543 00:27:57,582 --> 00:27:59,640 where you were trying to vet lists 544 00:27:59,683 --> 00:28:01,651 to make sure that the wrong people 545 00:28:01,685 --> 00:28:03,482 weren't being killed by these task forces. 546 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,080 Were there 500 people on this list, 1,000? 547 00:28:06,123 --> 00:28:07,454 No, I can't- I can't tell you. 548 00:28:07,491 --> 00:28:08,583 - Oh, you can't? - Yeah. 549 00:28:08,625 --> 00:28:10,149 You can't tell me because... 550 00:28:10,193 --> 00:28:11,888 I can't tell you 'cause I can't tell you that stuff. 551 00:28:11,928 --> 00:28:12,986 - You can't talk about it? - Yeah. 552 00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:14,054 I saw the list. I saw how big they are. 553 00:28:14,098 --> 00:28:15,258 Yeah, everything else, yeah. 554 00:28:15,299 --> 00:28:16,891 I mean, that's- I can't tell you. 555 00:28:16,934 --> 00:28:18,094 I was just... 556 00:28:26,477 --> 00:28:28,104 The Joint Special Operations Command 557 00:28:28,146 --> 00:28:30,239 had never numbered more than a few thousand. 558 00:28:31,582 --> 00:28:33,106 But under William McRaven, 559 00:28:33,151 --> 00:28:35,585 Afghanistan had become JSOC's war. 560 00:28:36,788 --> 00:28:38,756 How had such a small covert unit 561 00:28:38,790 --> 00:28:40,485 taken over the largest conventional war 562 00:28:40,525 --> 00:28:41,583 on the planet? 563 00:28:43,961 --> 00:28:46,588 Andrew Exum had experienced the change firsthand 564 00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:47,927 when he served as part 565 00:28:47,964 --> 00:28:50,398 of McRaven's high value targeting campaign, 566 00:28:50,434 --> 00:28:52,095 not in Afghanistan 567 00:28:52,135 --> 00:28:53,830 but in Iraq. 568 00:28:53,870 --> 00:28:56,236 He led a company of rangers in 2003 569 00:28:56,273 --> 00:28:59,037 as part of JSOC's Iraq task force. 570 00:28:59,364 --> 00:29:01,825 CPT. ANDREW EXUM 75TH RANGER REGIMENT 571 00:29:02,180 --> 00:29:05,081 I watched the way things began to change. 572 00:29:05,116 --> 00:29:07,516 You know, kind of the iron rule was, 573 00:29:07,552 --> 00:29:09,645 you don't go anywhere unless you've got, you know, 574 00:29:09,687 --> 00:29:12,121 a company of Army Rangers in reserve. 575 00:29:12,156 --> 00:29:15,683 In 2003, nobody was in reserve. 576 00:29:15,726 --> 00:29:18,194 I mean, people were hitting targets every single night 577 00:29:18,229 --> 00:29:20,026 in a very dispersed way 578 00:29:20,064 --> 00:29:21,895 and just-bam, bam, bam. 579 00:29:21,933 --> 00:29:23,958 I mean, you remember the deck of cards. 580 00:29:24,001 --> 00:29:26,264 We kind of had this poster of all these guys, 581 00:29:26,303 --> 00:29:29,137 and we went out looking for them every night. 582 00:29:29,173 --> 00:29:30,697 So we would, you know, kick down a door 583 00:29:30,741 --> 00:29:32,140 and pull somebody out of their home 584 00:29:32,175 --> 00:29:33,267 in the middle of the night, 585 00:29:33,310 --> 00:29:34,777 and the next morning, you know, 586 00:29:34,811 --> 00:29:36,642 people would be rioting in the streets. 587 00:29:37,881 --> 00:29:39,246 I'm in! 588 00:29:39,282 --> 00:29:40,306 Clear! 589 00:29:40,350 --> 00:29:41,977 Come out! 590 00:29:42,018 --> 00:29:43,883 On your fuckin' face. 591 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,785 On your face. 592 00:29:49,827 --> 00:29:51,988 Yeah, I remember one night going out. 593 00:29:52,029 --> 00:29:53,223 You know, we found out later 594 00:29:53,264 --> 00:29:55,732 that we were on two-weeks-old intelligence. 595 00:29:55,766 --> 00:29:57,597 Two Iraqis started shooting at us. 596 00:29:57,635 --> 00:29:58,966 We killed them. 597 00:29:59,003 --> 00:30:00,971 And, you know, we kind of realized later 598 00:30:01,005 --> 00:30:03,098 that these guys were just out guarding the- 599 00:30:03,140 --> 00:30:04,903 you know, the neighborhood generator. 600 00:30:04,942 --> 00:30:06,603 Now, I didn't lose any sleep over it, 601 00:30:06,644 --> 00:30:07,941 'cause these guys were shooting at me, 602 00:30:07,979 --> 00:30:09,344 but, you know, you start thinking about it 603 00:30:09,380 --> 00:30:11,848 from a strategic perspective... that's a loss. 604 00:30:11,883 --> 00:30:13,908 You start out with a target list, 605 00:30:13,951 --> 00:30:15,577 and maybe you got 50 guys on it; 606 00:30:15,619 --> 00:30:17,281 maybe you got 200 guys on it. 607 00:30:17,321 --> 00:30:21,222 But you can work your way through those 50 or 200 guys, 608 00:30:21,258 --> 00:30:22,748 and then suddenly, 609 00:30:22,792 --> 00:30:24,089 at the end of that target list, 610 00:30:24,127 --> 00:30:25,458 you've now got a new target list 611 00:30:25,495 --> 00:30:27,861 of, you know, 3,000 people on it. 612 00:30:27,898 --> 00:30:29,593 And how did this grow? 613 00:30:33,570 --> 00:30:37,200 What Exum told me about Iraq was a revelation. 614 00:30:37,241 --> 00:30:39,300 I thought JSOC's rise had happened later 615 00:30:39,343 --> 00:30:41,470 in Afghanistan. 616 00:30:41,512 --> 00:30:43,571 I'd worked in Baghdad for years 617 00:30:43,614 --> 00:30:45,548 and had written countless stories there, 618 00:30:45,583 --> 00:30:47,414 many from the front lines of the war. 619 00:30:48,753 --> 00:30:50,433 It was there that I first started reporting 620 00:30:50,454 --> 00:30:51,751 for The Nation magazine. 621 00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:54,817 But I'd never heard of JSOC. 622 00:30:54,859 --> 00:30:57,054 The budget for the Joint Special Operations Command, 623 00:30:57,094 --> 00:30:58,654 you can't get it through a FOIA request. 624 00:30:58,663 --> 00:30:59,925 We've tried that. 625 00:30:59,964 --> 00:31:02,364 I'd missed the most important story. 626 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,367 In Iraq, the U.S. had fundamentally changed 627 00:31:04,401 --> 00:31:05,767 the way it fought war. 628 00:31:07,270 --> 00:31:09,101 The real story, JSOC, 629 00:31:09,139 --> 00:31:10,936 was hidden in the shadows, 630 00:31:10,974 --> 00:31:12,032 out of sight. 631 00:31:15,745 --> 00:31:17,372 What was hidden in the shadows right now? 632 00:31:17,414 --> 00:31:18,847 ...That I propose 633 00:31:18,882 --> 00:31:21,942 represent a new direction from the last eight years. 634 00:31:23,220 --> 00:31:24,687 What was I missing today? 635 00:31:24,722 --> 00:31:28,283 We are embracing more oversight of our actions, 636 00:31:28,326 --> 00:31:31,489 and we're narrowing our use of the state secrets privilege. 637 00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:34,864 I discovered that, over the past decade, 638 00:31:34,899 --> 00:31:36,924 a series of secret presidential orders 639 00:31:36,968 --> 00:31:39,459 had given JSOC unprecedented authority. 640 00:31:40,638 --> 00:31:42,606 The battlefield was expanded, 641 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,267 and JSOC could now hit at will 642 00:31:44,308 --> 00:31:46,799 in countries beyond Iraq and Afghanistan. 643 00:31:54,517 --> 00:31:56,917 I began to research strikes against Al-Qaeda 644 00:31:56,953 --> 00:31:58,784 outside the declared battlefields. 645 00:32:00,323 --> 00:32:02,314 I looked for patterns among the lists. 646 00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:04,786 And then I found one. 647 00:32:06,096 --> 00:32:08,223 In December 2009, 648 00:32:08,264 --> 00:32:11,029 five strikes with over 150 casualties 649 00:32:11,068 --> 00:32:13,059 in a country without a declared war. 650 00:32:16,941 --> 00:32:19,910 [Man singing in native language] 651 00:32:29,365 --> 00:32:31,618 ADEN, YEMEN 652 00:32:34,125 --> 00:32:35,251 Aden. 653 00:32:35,292 --> 00:32:36,919 Yemen's ancient port city 654 00:32:36,961 --> 00:32:38,952 was nothing like Kabul. 655 00:32:38,996 --> 00:32:42,395 In Afghanistan, life was defined by the war. 656 00:32:42,431 --> 00:32:44,593 Everything revolved around it. 657 00:32:44,634 --> 00:32:46,602 But in Yemen, there was no war, 658 00:32:46,636 --> 00:32:47,796 at least not officially. 659 00:32:51,274 --> 00:32:53,469 The strikes seemed to have come out of the blue, 660 00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:56,138 and most Yemenis were going about life as usual. 661 00:33:00,985 --> 00:33:03,783 It was difficult to know where to start. 662 00:33:03,821 --> 00:33:06,654 The Yemeni government claimed responsibility for the strikes, 663 00:33:06,691 --> 00:33:09,956 saying they'd killed dozens of Al-Qaeda operatives. 664 00:33:09,994 --> 00:33:12,792 But it was unclear who the targets really were 665 00:33:12,830 --> 00:33:14,457 or who was even responsible. 666 00:33:17,635 --> 00:33:19,262 I arranged to meet the most powerful man 667 00:33:19,303 --> 00:33:20,930 in southern Yemen, 668 00:33:20,971 --> 00:33:22,836 Sheikh Saleh Bin Fareed. 669 00:33:22,961 --> 00:33:24,780 SHEIKH SALEH BIN FAREED LEADER, AL-AULAQ TRIBE 670 00:33:24,942 --> 00:33:27,239 When was the first time that you heard about 671 00:33:27,277 --> 00:33:29,177 someone being Al-Qaeda in that area? 672 00:33:29,419 --> 00:33:34,513 It is... I never new that anybody belonged to Al Qaeda, 673 00:33:34,896 --> 00:33:39,036 except in the last 3 years. 674 00:33:39,052 --> 00:33:42,700 And especially after the Americans attacked Al Majalah. 675 00:33:49,033 --> 00:33:52,161 How did you first hear of the strikes 676 00:33:52,203 --> 00:33:54,671 that had happened on December 17th? 677 00:33:54,677 --> 00:33:58,568 We got telephones from those people. 678 00:33:58,719 --> 00:34:01,179 And, of course, the news was on Al Jazeera. 679 00:34:01,187 --> 00:34:02,593 What was the news saying about it? 680 00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:06,075 Our government attacked Al Qaeda base in Al Majalah. 681 00:34:06,081 --> 00:34:08,912 Where Al Qaeda have a field for training. 682 00:34:09,511 --> 00:34:15,464 And they have huge stores for all kinds of weapons and ammunition and rockets, 683 00:34:16,556 --> 00:34:18,891 and they did not mention the Americans at all. 684 00:34:26,891 --> 00:34:28,227 When we went there... 685 00:34:29,017 --> 00:34:30,649 we saw what happened. 686 00:34:31,399 --> 00:34:32,954 I mean... I mean, 687 00:34:33,141 --> 00:34:35,953 if somebody's got a weak heart, I think he will collapse. 688 00:34:36,032 --> 00:34:39,953 You see goats and sheep all over. 689 00:34:40,442 --> 00:34:45,051 See the heads of those who were killed, here and there. 690 00:34:45,075 --> 00:34:46,973 You see children. 691 00:34:47,247 --> 00:34:52,699 And you cannot tell (if) this meat belongs to animals or to human beings. 692 00:34:55,003 --> 00:34:56,948 Why they do this? Why the hell they do this? 693 00:34:57,065 --> 00:34:58,964 When... there is no stores, 694 00:34:58,970 --> 00:35:00,493 there is no field for training 695 00:35:00,499 --> 00:35:03,171 there is nobody, except a very poor tribe... 696 00:35:05,290 --> 00:35:06,680 one of the poorest... 697 00:35:07,329 --> 00:35:08,751 tribes in... 698 00:35:09,314 --> 00:35:10,408 the south. 699 00:35:23,456 --> 00:35:25,833 AL MAJALAH ABYAN PROVINCE 700 00:35:27,668 --> 00:35:30,922 People saw the smoke and felt the earth shake. 701 00:35:31,089 --> 00:35:35,605 They had never seen anything like it. 702 00:35:35,635 --> 00:35:41,099 I ran to the area. I found scattered bodies 703 00:35:41,265 --> 00:35:45,615 and injured women and children. 704 00:35:45,645 --> 00:35:51,037 46 people were killed, including 5 pregnant women. 705 00:35:51,067 --> 00:35:53,289 If they kill innocent children and call them Al Qaeda, 706 00:35:53,319 --> 00:35:55,530 then we are all Al Qaeda. 707 00:35:55,696 --> 00:36:00,159 If children are terrorists, then we are all terrorists. 708 00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:22,056 At 6 am they were sleeping and I was making bread. 709 00:36:22,265 --> 00:36:31,023 When the missiles exploded, I lost consciousness. 710 00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:34,819 I didn't know what happened to my children, my daughter, my husband. 711 00:36:35,444 --> 00:36:36,696 They all died. 712 00:36:36,863 --> 00:36:42,493 Only I survived, along with this old man and my daughter. 713 00:36:43,661 --> 00:36:46,164 Missiles attacked me. 714 00:36:47,540 --> 00:36:49,500 And my brother Ibrahim. 715 00:36:49,667 --> 00:36:51,127 And my mother. 716 00:36:51,878 --> 00:36:53,629 Their hands were cut. 717 00:36:59,924 --> 00:37:02,757 The echoes of Gardez were everywhere... 718 00:37:02,793 --> 00:37:05,284 So many of the details repeating themselves. 719 00:37:09,133 --> 00:37:11,476 But there was one important difference. 720 00:37:11,969 --> 00:37:13,596 In Gardez, the American soldiers 721 00:37:13,637 --> 00:37:16,037 went to obscene lengths to cover up the killings. 722 00:37:17,241 --> 00:37:18,367 Here in Al-Majalah, 723 00:37:18,409 --> 00:37:20,274 despite the official denial, 724 00:37:20,311 --> 00:37:23,074 they'd left their fingerprints strewn across the desert. 725 00:37:25,281 --> 00:37:27,579 Why would they deny something so obvious 726 00:37:27,617 --> 00:37:29,107 when anyone who visited the bomb site 727 00:37:29,152 --> 00:37:30,585 would see the truth? 728 00:37:33,923 --> 00:37:35,515 But maybe that was the point. 729 00:37:35,558 --> 00:37:38,424 There was no declared war in Yemen. 730 00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:40,486 Out here, in the middle of the desert, 731 00:37:40,530 --> 00:37:42,829 no one was looking. 732 00:37:42,866 --> 00:37:44,959 And the one local reporter investigating the bombing 733 00:37:45,002 --> 00:37:46,367 had disappeared. 734 00:37:47,558 --> 00:37:52,450 The decision to arrest me was made the day I exposed the cover-up 735 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,038 of the murder of women and children in Abyan. 736 00:37:57,068 --> 00:38:01,489 The day I exposed those who sent cruise missiles to Bedouin camps. 737 00:38:02,281 --> 00:38:04,091 ABDULELAH HAIDER SHAYE YEMENI JOURNALIST 738 00:38:04,121 --> 00:38:06,589 Abdulelah Haider Shaye had traveled to Al-Majalah 739 00:38:06,623 --> 00:38:08,590 immediately after the strike, 740 00:38:08,624 --> 00:38:11,923 and his reporting sparked national outrage. 741 00:38:11,961 --> 00:38:13,929 Soon after, his house was raided 742 00:38:13,963 --> 00:38:17,160 by Yemen's American-trained counter-terrorism forces. 743 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,100 Abdulelah was thrown in prison. 744 00:38:19,135 --> 00:38:21,126 Posters demanding his return 745 00:38:21,170 --> 00:38:22,501 were hung around the capital. 746 00:38:26,534 --> 00:38:28,562 ABDULRAH MAN BARMAN ABDULELAH'S LAWYER 747 00:38:28,678 --> 00:38:30,806 I met Abdulelah's lawyer at a teahouse 748 00:38:30,848 --> 00:38:32,615 because his office was under attack. 749 00:38:32,645 --> 00:38:37,274 They fired over 120 shells into my office. 750 00:38:37,304 --> 00:38:40,039 And now we can't reach it 751 00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:42,488 because the Republican Guard are deployed in the area. 752 00:38:47,994 --> 00:38:56,514 In court, I noticed that one of Abdulelah's teeth had been pulled. 753 00:38:56,544 --> 00:38:58,253 And another had been broken. 754 00:38:58,283 --> 00:39:01,215 And he had scars on his chest. 755 00:39:01,911 --> 00:39:04,379 My understanding was that President Ali Abdullah Saleh 756 00:39:04,414 --> 00:39:07,076 was going to pardon Abdulelah Haider. 757 00:39:07,106 --> 00:39:10,027 The president agreed to release him. 758 00:39:10,057 --> 00:39:14,020 But that same day, the president got a call from Obama 759 00:39:14,186 --> 00:39:19,817 expressing concern about Abdulelah's release. 760 00:39:21,565 --> 00:39:24,432 I'd heard the story many times in Yemen- 761 00:39:24,468 --> 00:39:26,095 President Obama personally intervening 762 00:39:26,136 --> 00:39:28,502 to keep a respected Yemeni journalist in prison. 763 00:39:29,940 --> 00:39:31,430 It sounded far-fetched to me. 764 00:39:32,943 --> 00:39:34,137 But then I found this 765 00:39:34,178 --> 00:39:36,806 on the White House's own website, 766 00:39:36,847 --> 00:39:38,109 a readout from a phone call 767 00:39:38,148 --> 00:39:41,015 between Obama and the Yemeni president. 768 00:39:41,051 --> 00:39:43,280 They badly misspelled Abdulelah's name, 769 00:39:43,319 --> 00:39:45,787 but Obama's point was clear. 770 00:39:45,822 --> 00:39:48,086 He wanted him kept in jail. 771 00:39:52,895 --> 00:39:55,022 Al-Majalah was the first reported strike 772 00:39:55,064 --> 00:39:56,759 inside Yemen in seven years. 773 00:39:59,235 --> 00:40:00,827 It was clearly a U.S. Cruise missile 774 00:40:00,870 --> 00:40:02,701 that struck the Bedouin camp. 775 00:40:04,073 --> 00:40:06,304 Since there was no declared war in Yemen, 776 00:40:06,343 --> 00:40:08,868 I knew the strike was either JSOC or the CIA. 777 00:40:12,082 --> 00:40:13,447 And then I found this photo. 778 00:40:15,953 --> 00:40:17,887 The U.S. would have never released it, 779 00:40:17,921 --> 00:40:21,379 but Yemen's president posted it on his personal website- 780 00:40:21,425 --> 00:40:25,054 a presidential meeting with an important American guest, 781 00:40:25,095 --> 00:40:27,757 the head of the Joint Special Operations Command, 782 00:40:27,798 --> 00:40:30,288 Admiral William McRaven. 783 00:41:00,898 --> 00:41:02,525 Joining us now is Jeremy Scahill, 784 00:41:02,566 --> 00:41:05,034 national security correspondent for The Nation magazine. 785 00:41:05,068 --> 00:41:06,330 His latest article is all about 786 00:41:06,370 --> 00:41:07,735 the U.S. relationship with Yemen. 787 00:41:07,771 --> 00:41:09,068 Jeremy, thank you for joining us. 788 00:41:09,106 --> 00:41:10,106 Thank you. 789 00:41:10,140 --> 00:41:11,334 Back in New York, 790 00:41:11,375 --> 00:41:13,343 I started writing stories about JSOC, 791 00:41:13,377 --> 00:41:15,844 their rise to lead force in Afghanistan, 792 00:41:15,878 --> 00:41:18,005 their covert strikes in Yemen, 793 00:41:18,047 --> 00:41:19,139 and it felt as though 794 00:41:19,182 --> 00:41:20,672 I had crossed an invisible tripwire. 795 00:41:20,716 --> 00:41:21,978 The reality is that 796 00:41:22,018 --> 00:41:24,578 U.S. counter-terrorism obsession with Yemen 797 00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:26,019 trumped concern for human rights. 798 00:41:26,055 --> 00:41:27,750 - That's not true. - And it's- 799 00:41:27,790 --> 00:41:29,690 Well, it is true. - It's not true. 800 00:41:29,725 --> 00:41:30,885 Yup, back there. 801 00:41:30,927 --> 00:41:32,360 Does the Pentagon have any comment 802 00:41:32,395 --> 00:41:34,886 on a report in The Nation today? 803 00:41:34,931 --> 00:41:35,955 And my question is... 804 00:41:35,998 --> 00:41:37,022 ...Yeah, I guess... I... I... 805 00:41:37,066 --> 00:41:38,192 ...The question is... 806 00:41:38,234 --> 00:41:40,567 you keep denying covert operations. 807 00:41:40,604 --> 00:41:42,366 Isn't this yet more evidence of one? 808 00:41:42,405 --> 00:41:43,565 Okay. 809 00:41:43,606 --> 00:41:46,235 Despite whatever conspiratorial theories 810 00:41:46,276 --> 00:41:49,404 that, you know, magazines or broadcast outlets 811 00:41:49,446 --> 00:41:51,175 may want to cook up, 812 00:41:51,215 --> 00:41:52,842 there's nothing to it. 813 00:41:52,883 --> 00:41:54,214 So, Jeremy, let me ask you, 814 00:41:54,251 --> 00:41:58,017 have we been going into all of these countries 815 00:41:58,055 --> 00:42:00,888 over the past decade with drone attacks, 816 00:42:00,924 --> 00:42:04,552 dropping bombs in countries where we haven't declared war? 817 00:42:04,594 --> 00:42:06,425 The lack of response from the major media 818 00:42:06,462 --> 00:42:08,293 and the CIA and all the rest of it 819 00:42:08,331 --> 00:42:11,198 suggests they're dismissing what you've done. 820 00:42:11,234 --> 00:42:12,997 I receive a call, unprompted, 821 00:42:13,035 --> 00:42:15,970 from a Captain James Kirby, 822 00:42:16,005 --> 00:42:17,905 who is the spokesperson for Admiral Mike Mullen. 823 00:42:17,940 --> 00:42:19,407 Calls me on my cell phone. 824 00:42:19,442 --> 00:42:21,410 Wouldn't tell me how he got my cell phone number. 825 00:42:21,444 --> 00:42:23,412 Wouldn't tell me who told him about the story. 826 00:42:23,446 --> 00:42:24,913 This is hours from publication. 827 00:42:24,947 --> 00:42:26,210 And told me that 828 00:42:26,250 --> 00:42:27,581 if we published this story in The Nation 829 00:42:27,618 --> 00:42:29,210 that I would be "on thin ice." 830 00:42:29,253 --> 00:42:30,776 That was a direct quote. 831 00:42:30,820 --> 00:42:32,617 And I said, "Well, I want to know 832 00:42:32,655 --> 00:42:33,953 "how you heard about this story, 833 00:42:33,991 --> 00:42:35,515 and I want to know how you got my number." 834 00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:37,599 And he said, "Let's just say that I heard about it." 835 00:42:41,798 --> 00:42:43,425 I wasn't sleeping well, 836 00:42:43,467 --> 00:42:45,526 and insomnia fueled my anxiety. 837 00:42:48,038 --> 00:42:49,766 My computer had been hacked 838 00:42:49,805 --> 00:42:51,568 and part of my hard drive copied. 839 00:42:54,243 --> 00:42:57,235 It was difficult not to feel a creeping sense of paranoia. 840 00:42:59,915 --> 00:43:01,815 And then I got another strange phone call. 841 00:43:05,521 --> 00:43:07,455 I had no idea why he called me 842 00:43:07,490 --> 00:43:10,288 or how he got my number. 843 00:43:10,326 --> 00:43:12,521 I thought it might be a setup. 844 00:43:12,561 --> 00:43:13,688 Every story I worked on 845 00:43:13,730 --> 00:43:15,789 seemed to trace back to JSOC. 846 00:43:15,832 --> 00:43:17,561 And now, out of the blue, 847 00:43:17,601 --> 00:43:19,932 someone from the inside was reaching out to me. 848 00:43:23,774 --> 00:43:25,264 I had met operators before 849 00:43:25,309 --> 00:43:27,072 in my research on Blackwater 850 00:43:27,110 --> 00:43:28,577 but no one as close to the heart 851 00:43:28,612 --> 00:43:30,443 of JSOC's covert operations. 852 00:43:31,948 --> 00:43:34,508 He sent me photos of his DOD badges. 853 00:43:34,551 --> 00:43:36,848 But I still couldn't help wondering, 854 00:43:36,886 --> 00:43:38,854 was I investigating JSOC, 855 00:43:38,888 --> 00:43:40,788 or were they investigating me? 856 00:43:54,837 --> 00:43:56,464 Explain what JSOC is. 857 00:43:57,936 --> 00:44:00,241 The Joint Special Operations Command [Distorted voice] 858 00:44:00,249 --> 00:44:03,420 handles all the sensitive counter-terrorism missions, 859 00:44:03,437 --> 00:44:05,671 as the US government directs. 860 00:44:06,072 --> 00:44:08,822 And over time that was perverted into 861 00:44:08,893 --> 00:44:11,745 doing things that are far outside of its mandate. 862 00:44:12,356 --> 00:44:14,517 What has JSOC been doing in Yemen? 863 00:44:15,182 --> 00:44:16,596 Air strikes... 864 00:44:17,230 --> 00:44:18,847 Targeted killings... 865 00:44:19,463 --> 00:44:21,784 Targeted killings inside the borders of Yemen? 866 00:44:21,831 --> 00:44:22,878 Correct. 867 00:44:23,401 --> 00:44:25,987 The world is a battlefield and we are at war. 868 00:44:26,065 --> 00:44:29,659 Therefore the Joint Special Operations Command can go wherever they please, 869 00:44:29,940 --> 00:44:32,377 and do whatever it is that they want to do 870 00:44:32,573 --> 00:44:34,440 in order to achieve 871 00:44:34,479 --> 00:44:36,463 the national security objectives of 872 00:44:37,268 --> 00:44:39,487 whichever administration happens to be in power. 873 00:44:40,049 --> 00:44:41,880 Were there ways that JSOC was being used 874 00:44:41,917 --> 00:44:43,509 that you found objectionable? 875 00:44:44,253 --> 00:44:45,323 I did. 876 00:44:45,995 --> 00:44:46,995 Ah... 877 00:44:47,526 --> 00:44:48,839 there was... 878 00:44:51,047 --> 00:44:52,750 a lot of trepidation about 879 00:44:52,805 --> 00:44:55,070 what we were being asked to do, and where. 880 00:44:55,367 --> 00:44:56,718 And for what purpose. 881 00:44:57,508 --> 00:44:58,508 Ah... 882 00:45:00,047 --> 00:45:01,562 A lot of it was of 883 00:45:01,766 --> 00:45:03,344 questionable legality. 884 00:45:04,062 --> 00:45:05,727 And most of it 885 00:45:06,102 --> 00:45:08,812 was outside of any stated battlefield. 886 00:45:09,070 --> 00:45:12,086 Kinetic operations, whether it's capture of kill, 887 00:45:12,344 --> 00:45:13,906 and some cases, it's detain 888 00:45:14,141 --> 00:45:17,422 people as directed by the United States Government. 889 00:45:17,625 --> 00:45:22,445 They launched their own internalized interrogation program 890 00:45:22,641 --> 00:45:26,672 without the knowledge of the conventional US military forces 891 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,891 or even the Central Intelligence Agency. 892 00:45:29,097 --> 00:45:31,972 Because of the extreme secrecy surrounding the program, 893 00:45:32,050 --> 00:45:34,456 there was a variety of abuses. 894 00:45:34,837 --> 00:45:35,998 Torture? 895 00:45:38,298 --> 00:45:39,892 I would say that, yes. 896 00:45:39,954 --> 00:45:41,149 The President has 897 00:45:41,369 --> 00:45:42,415 made 898 00:45:42,806 --> 00:45:45,626 a political and military calculation 899 00:45:46,142 --> 00:45:49,040 to let the Joint Special Operations Command run wild. 900 00:45:49,633 --> 00:45:51,647 So you're saying JSOC is able to hit harder 901 00:45:51,688 --> 00:45:52,814 under President Obama 902 00:45:52,856 --> 00:45:54,517 than they were under President Bush? 903 00:45:54,783 --> 00:45:56,402 Harder, faster, quicker 904 00:45:56,408 --> 00:45:58,205 with the full support of the the White House. 905 00:46:12,107 --> 00:46:13,631 On my last day in Sana'a, 906 00:46:13,676 --> 00:46:15,871 a file had been left for me at my hotel... 907 00:46:17,033 --> 00:46:19,866 A leaked investigation into the strike of Al-Majalah. 908 00:46:21,244 --> 00:46:23,299 It included a list of the dead. 909 00:46:28,925 --> 00:46:31,189 In Iraq, they had a deck of cards, 910 00:46:31,228 --> 00:46:33,219 a list of 55 names. 911 00:46:34,830 --> 00:46:36,422 But the cards were not enough. 912 00:46:36,465 --> 00:46:37,932 New lists were needed. 913 00:46:37,967 --> 00:46:39,229 Longer lists. 914 00:46:39,268 --> 00:46:40,497 At the end of each list, 915 00:46:40,537 --> 00:46:42,801 another and another, 916 00:46:42,839 --> 00:46:44,430 an endless list of names. 917 00:46:53,516 --> 00:46:56,007 In Al-Majalah, the list numbered 46. 918 00:46:57,219 --> 00:46:59,653 14 of the names were women. 919 00:46:59,688 --> 00:47:02,179 21 were children. 920 00:47:02,224 --> 00:47:03,623 Who were they trying to kill? 921 00:47:06,362 --> 00:47:09,263 A week after Al-Majalah, there was another strike. 922 00:47:09,298 --> 00:47:10,823 And this time, the Yemeni government 923 00:47:10,867 --> 00:47:13,665 issued a press release naming the intended targets, 924 00:47:13,703 --> 00:47:16,137 but none of them had been killed. 925 00:47:16,172 --> 00:47:19,073 For the first time, I had names on the kill list 926 00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:21,703 of people who were still alive. 927 00:47:21,745 --> 00:47:23,939 Two of them were publicly known leaders: 928 00:47:23,979 --> 00:47:25,776 Shihiri and Waheshi. 929 00:47:25,814 --> 00:47:28,305 But the last name gave me a chill: 930 00:47:28,350 --> 00:47:30,114 Anwar Al-Awlaki. 931 00:47:30,153 --> 00:47:31,585 I knew the name, 932 00:47:31,620 --> 00:47:33,520 but I couldn't believe I was seeing it here 933 00:47:33,556 --> 00:47:35,786 on this list. 934 00:47:35,824 --> 00:47:37,815 Awlaki was an American citizen. 935 00:47:38,757 --> 00:47:40,453 The Christmas Day bombing attempt 936 00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:42,507 has everybody on alert tonight. 937 00:47:42,513 --> 00:47:44,037 Investigators connecting the dots, 938 00:47:44,099 --> 00:47:46,067 and a key focus in the investigation 939 00:47:46,101 --> 00:47:47,568 is a radical Islamic cleric. 940 00:47:47,603 --> 00:47:49,400 That man is Anwar Al-Awlaki, 941 00:47:49,438 --> 00:47:51,030 an exiled American who was... 942 00:47:51,073 --> 00:47:54,065 Just as I was investigating the expanding war in Yemen, 943 00:47:54,109 --> 00:47:56,100 it seemed Awlaki's name was everywhere. 944 00:47:57,447 --> 00:47:59,915 The War on Terror suddenly had a new face. 945 00:47:59,950 --> 00:48:02,077 Radical cleric Anwar Al-Awlaki 946 00:48:02,118 --> 00:48:03,415 may now be as grave a threat 947 00:48:03,453 --> 00:48:05,580 as Osama bin Laden himself. 948 00:48:05,622 --> 00:48:07,385 Awlaki, Holder says, 949 00:48:07,424 --> 00:48:09,221 is a clear and present danger. 950 00:48:09,259 --> 00:48:11,354 He's an extremely dangerous man. 951 00:48:11,378 --> 00:48:12,992 Does the U.S. have a preference 952 00:48:13,028 --> 00:48:14,791 in terms of Al-Awlaki: 953 00:48:14,830 --> 00:48:16,580 Dead, captured, or prosecuted? 954 00:48:16,624 --> 00:48:18,524 Well, we certainly want to neutralize him, 955 00:48:18,701 --> 00:48:22,660 and we will do whatever we can in order to do that. 956 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,900 An American was on the kill list. 957 00:48:27,409 --> 00:48:29,570 It felt to me like we'd walked off a cliff. 958 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,947 Awlaki had been sentenced to death 959 00:48:32,982 --> 00:48:34,813 without even being charged with a crime. 960 00:48:37,946 --> 00:48:39,847 Awlaki's father filed a lawsuit 961 00:48:39,888 --> 00:48:42,083 with the help of the Center for Constitutional Rights 962 00:48:42,124 --> 00:48:43,716 and the ACLU. 963 00:48:43,759 --> 00:48:45,352 He demanded that the government provide 964 00:48:45,395 --> 00:48:48,125 whatever evidence they had against his son. 965 00:48:48,164 --> 00:48:49,654 But the government refused. 966 00:48:49,699 --> 00:48:51,667 They had ordered the assassination 967 00:48:51,701 --> 00:48:53,191 of a U.S. citizen 968 00:48:53,236 --> 00:48:55,136 but said the evidence itself was too dangerous 969 00:48:55,171 --> 00:48:56,536 to be made public. 970 00:48:56,573 --> 00:48:59,872 What kind of protections does this American have 971 00:48:59,909 --> 00:49:02,103 against being assassinated by his own government? 972 00:49:02,144 --> 00:49:04,442 Yeah, it almost sounds kind of funny 973 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,606 in an ironic way when you say that. 974 00:49:06,648 --> 00:49:09,618 You know, you have the right not to be assassinated. 975 00:49:11,487 --> 00:49:13,011 A bill was introduced in Congress 976 00:49:13,055 --> 00:49:16,422 to ban the extra-judicial assassination of Americans, 977 00:49:16,458 --> 00:49:18,449 but only six congressmen signed on. 978 00:49:19,962 --> 00:49:22,226 And the people who should have known what was happening, 979 00:49:22,264 --> 00:49:24,357 the members of the intelligence committees, 980 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,560 couldn't tell me anything. 981 00:49:25,601 --> 00:49:27,136 When there is a lethal operation 982 00:49:27,142 --> 00:49:29,210 and a high-value person is killed, 983 00:49:29,216 --> 00:49:30,987 the president, of course, acknowledged that we killed... 984 00:49:30,993 --> 00:49:32,090 - He can't- - Huh? 985 00:49:32,096 --> 00:49:35,482 He can't confirm there have been any lethal operations outside of a war zone. 986 00:49:36,358 --> 00:49:38,685 SEN. RON WYDEN SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE 987 00:49:38,982 --> 00:49:40,279 Has there been any legal review 988 00:49:40,316 --> 00:49:41,874 of the potential for lethal operations 989 00:49:41,918 --> 00:49:43,476 against American citizens? 990 00:49:45,288 --> 00:49:47,119 - Not to our knowledge. - Is that classified? 991 00:49:48,858 --> 00:49:52,917 It's important for the American people to know 992 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,260 when the President can kill an American citizen 993 00:49:56,298 --> 00:49:58,061 and when they can't. 994 00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:03,367 And yet it is almost as if there are two laws in America, 995 00:50:03,405 --> 00:50:05,703 and the American people 996 00:50:05,741 --> 00:50:08,835 would be extraordinarily surprised 997 00:50:08,877 --> 00:50:11,072 if they could see the difference 998 00:50:11,113 --> 00:50:15,174 between what they believe a law says 999 00:50:15,217 --> 00:50:19,017 and how it has actually been interpreted in secret. 1000 00:50:19,054 --> 00:50:20,352 You're not permitted 1001 00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:22,255 to disclose that difference publicly. 1002 00:50:22,292 --> 00:50:23,384 That's correct. 1003 00:50:42,413 --> 00:50:43,983 I wasn't surprised when Washington 1004 00:50:43,992 --> 00:50:45,849 ignored the killings in Gardez. 1005 00:50:47,416 --> 00:50:50,214 But this was an American citizen. 1006 00:50:50,252 --> 00:50:52,652 The country was now targeting one of its own. 1007 00:50:54,383 --> 00:50:55,852 Even John Walker Lindh, 1008 00:50:55,891 --> 00:50:57,381 who'd taken up arms with the Taliban, 1009 00:50:57,426 --> 00:50:58,552 was given a trial. 1010 00:51:00,229 --> 00:51:02,197 What had Awlaki done? 1011 00:51:02,231 --> 00:51:04,631 And why was the U.S. willing to cross such a dangerous line 1012 00:51:04,666 --> 00:51:05,997 to have him killed? 1013 00:51:12,342 --> 00:51:15,470 I read everything I could about Awlaki. 1014 00:51:15,512 --> 00:51:18,140 It was obvious that he was an immensely popular preacher 1015 00:51:18,181 --> 00:51:19,443 with a large following 1016 00:51:19,482 --> 00:51:21,040 among young English-speaking Muslims 1017 00:51:21,084 --> 00:51:22,176 around the world. 1018 00:51:23,653 --> 00:51:25,120 On his blog, he openly praised 1019 00:51:25,155 --> 00:51:27,452 some of the attacks against the U.S. 1020 00:51:27,489 --> 00:51:29,820 But this in itself was clearly not a crime. 1021 00:51:33,046 --> 00:51:35,619 I spoke with former CIA and military officials. 1022 00:51:35,649 --> 00:51:37,120 PHIL GIRALDI CAREER CIA CASE OFFICER 1023 00:51:37,150 --> 00:51:38,771 They argued that Awlaki's speeches 1024 00:51:38,801 --> 00:51:40,455 were inspiring domestic terrorists. 1025 00:51:40,485 --> 00:51:42,045 EMILE NAKHLEH CIA POLITICAL ISLAM DMSION 1026 00:51:42,070 --> 00:51:43,469 There were a lot of words 1027 00:51:43,505 --> 00:51:46,450 COL. PATRICK LANG DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY from both Awlaki and the U.S. Gov. 1028 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,035 but no concrete piece of evidence 1029 00:51:48,065 --> 00:51:49,508 LT. COL. ANTHONY SHAFFER CIA - LEADERSHIP TARGETING CELL that he was an operational figure 1030 00:51:49,538 --> 00:51:52,338 LT. COL. ANTHONY SHAFFER CIA - LEADERSHIP TARGETING CELL in any attacks. 1031 00:51:52,748 --> 00:51:55,377 I remembered seeing him on TV nearly a decade earlier, 1032 00:51:55,418 --> 00:51:57,045 just after 9/11. 1033 00:51:57,449 --> 00:51:58,825 ANWAR AL AWLAKI FALLS CHURCH, VA - 2001 1034 00:51:58,855 --> 00:52:00,322 And it was difficult to reconcile 1035 00:52:00,356 --> 00:52:02,290 the image of a new bin Laden 1036 00:52:02,325 --> 00:52:05,192 with Awlaki's earlier sermons condemning terrorism. 1037 00:52:05,228 --> 00:52:10,097 The fact that the U.S. has administered 1038 00:52:10,133 --> 00:52:13,863 the death and homicide of civilians in Iraq 1039 00:52:13,902 --> 00:52:18,668 does not justify the killing of one U.S. Civilian 1040 00:52:18,706 --> 00:52:20,936 in New York City or Washington, D.C. 1041 00:52:23,578 --> 00:52:26,639 For a short time, Awlaki seemed like the go-to imam 1042 00:52:26,682 --> 00:52:28,240 for journalists trying to understand 1043 00:52:28,283 --> 00:52:29,773 the experience of American Muslims 1044 00:52:29,818 --> 00:52:31,308 in the wake of the attacks. 1045 00:52:33,188 --> 00:52:35,213 He was even profiled by the Washington Post 1046 00:52:35,257 --> 00:52:36,884 for a piece about Ramadan. 1047 00:52:36,925 --> 00:52:38,392 After September 11th... 1048 00:52:41,998 --> 00:52:43,761 All of the feelings of the American Muslims 1049 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,768 were similar to everybody else in America: 1050 00:52:45,802 --> 00:52:47,963 Feelings of sympathy 1051 00:52:48,004 --> 00:52:52,998 for the families of the victims 1052 00:52:53,042 --> 00:52:54,771 and a sense of... 1053 00:52:56,346 --> 00:52:58,780 That whoever did this needed to be brought to justice. 1054 00:52:59,792 --> 00:53:02,079 A decade after this video was filmed, 1055 00:53:02,117 --> 00:53:05,018 Awlaki had become Public Enemy Number One, 1056 00:53:05,053 --> 00:53:08,647 his name at the very top of the kill list. 1057 00:53:08,689 --> 00:53:11,658 It felt like the War on Terror was turning on itself. 1058 00:53:11,692 --> 00:53:13,126 I was now investigating 1059 00:53:13,161 --> 00:53:16,460 the planned assassination of a U.S. Citizen- 1060 00:53:16,498 --> 00:53:17,897 a watershed event. 1061 00:53:19,072 --> 00:53:21,158 SANA'A, YEMEN 1062 00:53:30,413 --> 00:53:31,607 For the first time, 1063 00:53:31,648 --> 00:53:33,741 I had the name of someone on the kill list 1064 00:53:33,783 --> 00:53:35,444 who had not yet been killed. 1065 00:53:37,153 --> 00:53:39,621 Anwar Al-Awlaki was now a wanted man 1066 00:53:39,656 --> 00:53:41,590 hiding somewhere in the mountains of Yemen. 1067 00:53:46,461 --> 00:53:47,621 I knew I wouldn't be able 1068 00:53:47,663 --> 00:53:49,358 to speak with Awlaki directly... 1069 00:53:50,999 --> 00:53:53,058 But through a series of intermediaries, 1070 00:53:53,101 --> 00:53:55,126 I managed to set up a meeting with his father. 1071 00:53:58,139 --> 00:54:01,700 I expected him to be reluctant to speak about his son, 1072 00:54:01,742 --> 00:54:03,040 but he seemed happy to reminisce 1073 00:54:03,078 --> 00:54:04,238 about an earlier time. 1074 00:54:06,014 --> 00:54:09,381 Anwar was an all-American boy. 1075 00:54:09,418 --> 00:54:11,613 This is in Disneyland, you know, 1076 00:54:11,653 --> 00:54:14,213 in 1984, I think. 1077 00:54:15,593 --> 00:54:18,653 This is in San Diego when he was already an imam 1078 00:54:18,695 --> 00:54:20,788 with a big beard, you know. 1079 00:54:20,830 --> 00:54:23,799 At that time, he was asking Muslims to participate 1080 00:54:23,833 --> 00:54:25,801 in the democratic process in America. 1081 00:54:25,835 --> 00:54:29,236 In fact, during the presidential campaign of George Bush, 1082 00:54:29,272 --> 00:54:31,763 he thought the conservative Republicans 1083 00:54:31,808 --> 00:54:34,640 will be better than the liberal Democrats, 1084 00:54:34,676 --> 00:54:36,610 and he encouraged the Muslims there 1085 00:54:36,645 --> 00:54:39,170 to elect George Bush. 1086 00:54:39,214 --> 00:54:40,408 Didn't he even, at one point, 1087 00:54:40,449 --> 00:54:41,848 attend a luncheon at the Pentagon? 1088 00:54:41,883 --> 00:54:43,009 Yes. 1089 00:54:43,051 --> 00:54:44,950 You see, he liked America, 1090 00:54:44,986 --> 00:54:48,888 and he wanted to stay and really-his life in America, 1091 00:54:48,923 --> 00:54:50,686 but things came differently. 1092 00:54:54,029 --> 00:54:57,465 Can you explain to me why your son went into hiding? 1093 00:54:57,499 --> 00:55:00,332 After the incident of Al-Majalah 1094 00:55:00,369 --> 00:55:02,462 and Anwar was all over the news, 1095 00:55:02,504 --> 00:55:05,167 the drones started to fly over Shabwah. 1096 00:55:05,208 --> 00:55:09,668 So, you know, Anwar was really concerned. 1097 00:55:09,712 --> 00:55:12,510 And so we took his family with us, 1098 00:55:12,548 --> 00:55:15,346 and he left to the mountains. 1099 00:55:15,385 --> 00:55:16,943 Hmm? 1100 00:55:25,227 --> 00:55:28,890 Myself, at this age in my life, 1101 00:55:28,930 --> 00:55:32,798 I really cannot ever replace, 1102 00:55:32,834 --> 00:55:35,165 you know, the role of my son 1103 00:55:35,202 --> 00:55:39,298 as he was doing for his family. 1104 00:55:39,340 --> 00:55:40,899 From my reading of the history of your son, 1105 00:55:40,942 --> 00:55:42,170 from his writing, 1106 00:55:42,210 --> 00:55:44,178 it seemed as though there was a transformation 1107 00:55:44,212 --> 00:55:46,544 that happened politically for him 1108 00:55:46,581 --> 00:55:48,276 from 9/11 to the invasion of Iraq. 1109 00:55:48,316 --> 00:55:50,443 Something started to change in his tone. 1110 00:55:50,485 --> 00:55:51,680 Yes. 1111 00:55:51,721 --> 00:55:55,657 Anwar became popular before September 11th 1112 00:55:55,691 --> 00:55:59,024 because his sermons and his tapes, 1113 00:55:59,062 --> 00:56:00,359 you know, were very popular 1114 00:56:00,396 --> 00:56:03,524 all over the English-speaking world. 1115 00:56:03,566 --> 00:56:07,524 And then the invasion came in 2003, 1116 00:56:07,569 --> 00:56:09,833 and they invaded Iraq and destroyed Iraq, 1117 00:56:09,871 --> 00:56:11,702 so Anwar really started 1118 00:56:11,740 --> 00:56:17,542 to be more vocal in his speeches 1119 00:56:17,579 --> 00:56:20,070 against what the Americans were doing 1120 00:56:20,115 --> 00:56:22,208 against Muslims all over the world. 1121 00:56:22,250 --> 00:56:23,773 There's no doubt that your son praised 1122 00:56:23,818 --> 00:56:25,218 some of the attacks against the U.S. 1123 00:56:25,252 --> 00:56:27,012 And for many Americans, it was enough to say, 1124 00:56:27,021 --> 00:56:28,420 "Anwar Al-Awlaki is a terrorist." 1125 00:56:28,456 --> 00:56:31,551 But also, I want decent American lawyer 1126 00:56:31,593 --> 00:56:33,959 to tell me that it is right 1127 00:56:33,995 --> 00:56:35,758 for the United States government 1128 00:56:35,797 --> 00:56:37,731 to kill an American citizen 1129 00:56:37,766 --> 00:56:39,667 on the basis that he said something 1130 00:56:39,702 --> 00:56:42,796 against the United States or against American soldiers. 1131 00:56:42,839 --> 00:56:44,670 I mean, I-I don't understand. 1132 00:56:44,707 --> 00:56:47,870 I don't understand 100% the American Constitution, 1133 00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:51,209 but I don't believe American law will allow 1134 00:56:51,247 --> 00:56:53,147 the killing of an American citizen 1135 00:56:53,182 --> 00:56:56,309 because he said something against the United States. 1136 00:57:03,125 --> 00:57:05,252 Anwar's father may have been calling for justice 1137 00:57:05,293 --> 00:57:06,851 under American law, 1138 00:57:06,895 --> 00:57:09,728 but American drones were already flying overhead. 1139 00:57:13,167 --> 00:57:15,635 The fact that they were trying to kill an American citizen 1140 00:57:15,669 --> 00:57:17,330 was shocking enough. 1141 00:57:17,371 --> 00:57:20,068 But there was another reason Awlaki's story haunted me. 1142 00:57:20,909 --> 00:57:22,342 We are against evil, 1143 00:57:22,377 --> 00:57:24,402 and America as a whole 1144 00:57:24,446 --> 00:57:26,574 has turned into a nation of evil. 1145 00:57:26,616 --> 00:57:30,518 How can your conscience allow you to... 1146 00:57:30,553 --> 00:57:32,851 Awlaki seemed to have embraced the very identity 1147 00:57:32,889 --> 00:57:34,914 he once opposed: 1148 00:57:34,957 --> 00:57:37,551 The military jacket, the black flag, 1149 00:57:37,593 --> 00:57:39,720 the unequivocal call for armed jihad. 1150 00:57:39,762 --> 00:57:42,594 I specifically invite the youth 1151 00:57:42,631 --> 00:57:44,565 to either fight in the West 1152 00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:46,999 or join their brothers in the fronts of jihad. 1153 00:57:47,035 --> 00:57:49,333 The all-American boy was gone 1154 00:57:49,371 --> 00:57:51,202 and so was the moderate imam. 1155 00:57:52,641 --> 00:57:53,801 But why? 1156 00:58:13,563 --> 00:58:16,361 Awlaki was deeply affected by the War on Terror 1157 00:58:16,399 --> 00:58:17,957 both abroad and at home. 1158 00:58:20,121 --> 00:58:21,550 The day after September 11th, 1159 00:58:21,604 --> 00:58:23,902 a woman stumbled into his mosque in Virginia 1160 00:58:23,940 --> 00:58:26,033 after being beaten with a baseball bat. 1161 00:58:27,776 --> 00:58:29,368 More than 1,200 Muslims were detained 1162 00:58:29,411 --> 00:58:30,537 across the country. 1163 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,215 You have Muslims who are locked up in jail 1164 00:58:35,250 --> 00:58:37,616 and are left to rot in there. 1165 00:58:37,652 --> 00:58:39,586 There are no charges brought against them. 1166 00:58:40,455 --> 00:58:41,888 What have you done for them? 1167 00:58:43,425 --> 00:58:45,791 Awlaki resigned from the mosque soon after 1168 00:58:45,827 --> 00:58:46,987 and left the country. 1169 00:58:48,234 --> 00:58:51,031 But the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq followed. 1170 00:58:51,265 --> 00:58:53,961 And, well, this is a new kind of- 1171 00:58:54,001 --> 00:58:55,195 a new kind of evil. 1172 00:58:55,236 --> 00:58:58,365 And this-this-this-this- this crusade... 1173 00:59:00,442 --> 00:59:01,842 Is gonna take a while. 1174 00:59:01,877 --> 00:59:04,004 Awlaki began to see the expanding wars 1175 00:59:04,046 --> 00:59:06,412 as part of a global attack against Islam, 1176 00:59:06,449 --> 00:59:09,145 and his sermons reflected a growing anger. 1177 00:59:09,185 --> 00:59:13,383 We are watching one Muslim nation fall after another, 1178 00:59:13,422 --> 00:59:16,185 and we're watching, sitting back, 1179 00:59:16,224 --> 00:59:17,384 doing nothing. 1180 00:59:20,262 --> 00:59:21,627 After 9/11, 1181 00:59:21,663 --> 00:59:23,324 Awlaki was put under surveillance, 1182 00:59:23,365 --> 00:59:25,060 detained at airports, 1183 00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:27,568 and repeatedly interrogated by the FBI. 1184 00:59:28,927 --> 00:59:30,348 When he returned to Yemen, 1185 00:59:30,379 --> 00:59:33,371 local officials arrested him on orders from Washington. 1186 00:59:33,775 --> 00:59:35,208 He was locked up for a year and a half 1187 00:59:35,243 --> 00:59:36,733 without charge 1188 00:59:36,778 --> 00:59:39,644 and spent 17 months in solitary confinement. 1189 00:59:40,581 --> 00:59:42,231 When he was finally released, 1190 00:59:42,237 --> 00:59:44,340 Awlaki was a changed man. 1191 00:59:44,818 --> 00:59:47,014 And after JSOC tried to kill him, 1192 00:59:47,055 --> 00:59:48,648 his transformation was complete. 1193 00:59:48,691 --> 00:59:51,023 Eventually came to the conclusion 1194 00:59:51,060 --> 00:59:54,257 that jihad against America is binding upon myself... 1195 00:59:54,297 --> 00:59:55,889 This is not a war of choice. 1196 00:59:55,931 --> 00:59:59,298 Just as it is binding on every other able Muslim. 1197 00:59:59,335 --> 01:00:01,030 This is a war of necessity. 1198 01:00:02,304 --> 01:00:04,397 They seemed like mirror images of one another, 1199 01:00:04,439 --> 01:00:06,532 strangely distorted, 1200 01:00:06,574 --> 01:00:07,700 America's wars 1201 01:00:07,742 --> 01:00:08,766 and Awlaki's words. 1202 01:00:08,810 --> 01:00:09,936 This will not be quick... 1203 01:00:09,978 --> 01:00:11,275 War against Islam and Muslim... 1204 01:00:11,313 --> 01:00:12,405 Nor easy. 1205 01:00:12,447 --> 01:00:14,472 Like a self-fulfilling prophecy, 1206 01:00:14,516 --> 01:00:16,609 the United States had helped create the very man 1207 01:00:16,651 --> 01:00:17,913 it was now trying to kill. 1208 01:00:17,952 --> 01:00:19,112 America was my home. 1209 01:00:19,154 --> 01:00:21,145 Those who attacked America on 9/11 1210 01:00:21,189 --> 01:00:22,486 are plotting to do so again. 1211 01:00:22,524 --> 01:00:23,821 Awlaki's journey, 1212 01:00:23,858 --> 01:00:26,793 from a voice of moderation to one of retribution, 1213 01:00:26,828 --> 01:00:28,294 cut to the heart of the larger story 1214 01:00:28,329 --> 01:00:29,455 I was investigating. 1215 01:00:29,496 --> 01:00:31,623 [Indistinct conversations] 1216 01:00:31,665 --> 01:00:34,133 Anybody... 1217 01:00:34,168 --> 01:00:35,967 Anybody belongs to Al-Qaeda... 1218 01:00:37,707 --> 01:00:39,868 I'd seen the same pattern repeatedly. 1219 01:00:41,677 --> 01:00:43,477 America was trying to kill its way to victory. 1220 01:00:43,512 --> 01:00:45,036 Now got a new target list... 1221 01:00:45,081 --> 01:00:47,140 But the War on Terror was producing new enemies 1222 01:00:47,183 --> 01:00:48,342 wherever it spread. 1223 01:00:48,383 --> 01:00:49,543 How did this grow? 1224 01:00:56,624 --> 01:00:58,387 How does a war like that ever end? 1225 01:01:05,500 --> 01:01:07,525 Good evening. 1226 01:01:07,569 --> 01:01:10,333 Tonight, I can report to the American people 1227 01:01:10,372 --> 01:01:11,896 and to the world 1228 01:01:11,940 --> 01:01:14,238 that the United States has conducted an operation 1229 01:01:14,275 --> 01:01:16,573 that killed Osama bin Laden, 1230 01:01:16,611 --> 01:01:18,669 the leader of Al-Qaeda. 1231 01:01:18,712 --> 01:01:20,145 Again, for those just joining us, 1232 01:01:20,180 --> 01:01:22,375 Osama bin Laden is dead, 1233 01:01:22,416 --> 01:01:24,214 and one confirmation we're getting 1234 01:01:24,252 --> 01:01:28,815 indicates that this is a special operations raid. 1235 01:01:28,858 --> 01:01:30,291 And I think an organization 1236 01:01:30,326 --> 01:01:32,123 we're gonna hear a lot about in the coming days 1237 01:01:32,161 --> 01:01:35,755 is JSOC, the Joint Special Operations Command. 1238 01:01:35,797 --> 01:01:37,594 So much for secrecy. 1239 01:01:37,632 --> 01:01:38,929 So much for cover-ups. 1240 01:01:38,967 --> 01:01:41,902 The forces I'd been trying to unmask since Gardez 1241 01:01:41,936 --> 01:01:43,369 were suddenly national heroes. 1242 01:01:43,405 --> 01:01:46,499 The operation was called Neptune Spear. 1243 01:01:46,541 --> 01:01:49,476 To capture or kill bin Laden. 1244 01:01:49,511 --> 01:01:52,036 It felt like the world had turned upside down. 1245 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,674 JSOC, long shrouded in secrecy, 1246 01:01:54,716 --> 01:01:56,377 was becoming a household name. 1247 01:01:58,186 --> 01:01:59,517 But what did it really mean? 1248 01:02:01,689 --> 01:02:03,088 The White House circulated a photo 1249 01:02:03,124 --> 01:02:04,614 from the night of the raid, 1250 01:02:04,659 --> 01:02:07,286 perhaps as a picture of transparency. 1251 01:02:07,327 --> 01:02:09,056 Everyone was in the room: 1252 01:02:09,096 --> 01:02:10,428 Secretary of State, 1253 01:02:10,465 --> 01:02:11,796 Secretary of Defense, 1254 01:02:11,833 --> 01:02:13,095 Vice President, 1255 01:02:13,134 --> 01:02:14,727 Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, 1256 01:02:14,770 --> 01:02:16,397 the President himself. 1257 01:02:16,439 --> 01:02:17,804 But it was the seating arrangement 1258 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,205 that interested me. 1259 01:02:19,241 --> 01:02:20,435 The man at the head of the table 1260 01:02:20,476 --> 01:02:22,466 wasn't the commander in chief. 1261 01:02:22,510 --> 01:02:24,603 It was McRaven's assistant at JSOC, 1262 01:02:24,646 --> 01:02:26,307 General Webb. 1263 01:02:26,347 --> 01:02:29,339 McRaven himself was running the operation from Afghanistan. 1264 01:02:31,619 --> 01:02:35,419 USA! USA! USA! USA! 1265 01:02:35,457 --> 01:02:37,584 I wasn't mourning bin Laden's death, 1266 01:02:37,625 --> 01:02:39,252 but I wasn't celebrating either. 1267 01:02:40,995 --> 01:02:44,692 After ten years, I understood that people wanted closure. 1268 01:02:44,732 --> 01:02:47,394 But it didn't feel like V-E Day to me. 1269 01:02:47,435 --> 01:02:48,925 Didn't feel like victory at all. 1270 01:02:53,141 --> 01:02:54,631 The leader of Al-Qaeda is dead, 1271 01:02:54,676 --> 01:02:57,200 but a new one has taken his place. 1272 01:02:57,244 --> 01:03:00,271 Your mission will be to ensure he meets the same end. 1273 01:03:00,315 --> 01:03:01,942 Hearing JSOC mentioned on television 1274 01:03:01,983 --> 01:03:03,747 was jolting enough, 1275 01:03:03,786 --> 01:03:06,346 but when I saw the admiral in front of the cameras, 1276 01:03:06,388 --> 01:03:08,686 it felt like I'd walked through the looking glass. 1277 01:03:08,724 --> 01:03:11,521 I am deeply honored that the President has nominated me 1278 01:03:11,559 --> 01:03:13,584 to serve as the next SOCOM commander. 1279 01:03:13,628 --> 01:03:15,061 And if confirmed... 1280 01:03:15,096 --> 01:03:17,155 William McRaven was now the toast of Washington. 1281 01:03:17,198 --> 01:03:19,325 Admiral McRaven, 1282 01:03:19,367 --> 01:03:21,665 by leading the mission that killed Osama bin Laden, 1283 01:03:21,703 --> 01:03:24,467 you and your men won an enduring place 1284 01:03:24,506 --> 01:03:26,531 in American military history. 1285 01:03:26,574 --> 01:03:29,202 Like all of my colleagues, 1286 01:03:29,244 --> 01:03:31,610 I salute you and your colleagues' 1287 01:03:31,646 --> 01:03:33,876 and the SEALs' extraordinary operations. 1288 01:03:33,915 --> 01:03:35,644 Thank you for your service. Thank you, sir. 1289 01:03:35,683 --> 01:03:37,173 When the congratulations subsided, 1290 01:03:37,463 --> 01:03:39,869 the senators turned to the real purpose of the hearings. 1291 01:03:39,875 --> 01:03:43,268 Are you prepared and capable to expand your operations 1292 01:03:43,324 --> 01:03:45,690 at a moment's notice worldwide? 1293 01:03:45,727 --> 01:03:48,696 As we look out from Iraq, Afghanistan, 1294 01:03:48,730 --> 01:03:50,698 and, frankly, across the globe, 1295 01:03:50,732 --> 01:03:53,133 as we look at hot spots in Yemen 1296 01:03:53,168 --> 01:03:55,159 where you have Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula 1297 01:03:55,204 --> 01:03:57,068 or Somalia where you have East African Al-Qaeda 1298 01:03:57,105 --> 01:03:58,367 and Al-Shabaab, 1299 01:03:58,406 --> 01:03:59,873 now, these are clearly areas of concern... 1300 01:03:59,908 --> 01:04:01,170 People in the streets may have hoped 1301 01:04:01,209 --> 01:04:03,336 the War on Terror was finally over. 1302 01:04:03,378 --> 01:04:04,675 But in Washington, 1303 01:04:04,712 --> 01:04:06,339 in the corridors of power, 1304 01:04:06,381 --> 01:04:08,110 a new chapter had just begun. 1305 01:04:10,885 --> 01:04:13,479 Right now, it's kinetic. Hard kill. 1306 01:04:13,521 --> 01:04:15,819 If it's not hard kill, doesn't get played. 1307 01:04:16,646 --> 01:04:18,296 MALCOLM NANCE NAVAL INTELLIGENCE 1308 01:04:18,326 --> 01:04:19,884 Soon after the bin Laden strike, 1309 01:04:19,928 --> 01:04:21,122 I met Malcolm Nance, 1310 01:04:21,162 --> 01:04:23,096 a legend in the world of covert ops 1311 01:04:23,131 --> 01:04:24,564 who'd trained countless Navy SEALs 1312 01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:27,193 and other JSOC operators. 1313 01:04:27,235 --> 01:04:29,362 I'm a firm believer in targeted assassination. 1314 01:04:29,404 --> 01:04:32,374 If they are too strong for your ability 1315 01:04:32,408 --> 01:04:35,069 to negate their capacity in the battlefield, 1316 01:04:35,109 --> 01:04:37,737 then you're just gonna have to put a hellfire in. 1317 01:04:37,779 --> 01:04:39,576 If they're... if they are dangerous... 1318 01:04:39,614 --> 01:04:40,638 on a strategic scale 1319 01:04:40,682 --> 01:04:43,173 like Anwar Al-Awlaki from Yemen... 1320 01:04:43,217 --> 01:04:45,082 definitely has a missile in his future. 1321 01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:47,280 No longer cloaked in secrecy, 1322 01:04:47,322 --> 01:04:48,653 special ops seemed to be enjoying 1323 01:04:48,690 --> 01:04:50,248 their moment in the sun. 1324 01:04:50,291 --> 01:04:52,384 You know, we went in, we did the drone strike, 1325 01:04:52,427 --> 01:04:54,088 and-or hellfire strike, 1326 01:04:54,128 --> 01:04:55,595 and we blasted the individual car 1327 01:04:55,630 --> 01:04:57,757 of a known guy who was known to be in that vehicle. 1328 01:04:57,799 --> 01:04:59,596 And we flew in, and we snatched his body- 1329 01:04:59,634 --> 01:05:01,761 we confirmed it... got the intelligence, went away. 1330 01:05:01,803 --> 01:05:03,395 That's the way we should be doing it. 1331 01:05:08,977 --> 01:05:10,604 The first time we met, 1332 01:05:10,645 --> 01:05:13,011 he'd called me out of the blue. 1333 01:05:13,047 --> 01:05:14,537 This time, it was me who called. 1334 01:05:16,985 --> 01:05:19,819 JSOC may no longer have been a secret, 1335 01:05:19,855 --> 01:05:21,516 but that didn't mean we knew the truth. 1336 01:05:21,847 --> 01:05:23,871 We're now seeing the effects of 1337 01:05:24,972 --> 01:05:29,284 covert intervention in countries on multiple continents 1338 01:05:30,049 --> 01:05:33,917 without any thought to future repercussions. 1339 01:05:34,355 --> 01:05:36,605 And it is radically expanded. 1340 01:05:36,824 --> 01:05:38,761 At one point it was 40 countries, 1341 01:05:38,768 --> 01:05:41,151 it is now expanded to over 75. 1342 01:05:41,495 --> 01:05:43,432 And there are dozens, 1343 01:05:43,518 --> 01:05:45,260 if not hundreds, 1344 01:05:45,276 --> 01:05:47,479 of concurrent operations. 1345 01:05:48,049 --> 01:05:50,210 But, in theory, Congress is supposed to have oversight 1346 01:05:50,251 --> 01:05:51,411 of these operations. 1347 01:05:51,603 --> 01:05:53,673 They don't want to step into the dark, 1348 01:05:54,002 --> 01:05:56,213 and see what goes on behind the curtain. 1349 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,619 Joint Special Operations Command 1350 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,488 became a paramilitary arm of the administration, 1351 01:06:02,494 --> 01:06:05,181 and billions upon billions of dollars 1352 01:06:05,197 --> 01:06:07,674 was poured into JSOC. 1353 01:06:08,236 --> 01:06:10,025 What we have essentially done 1354 01:06:10,093 --> 01:06:12,602 is created one hell of a hammer. 1355 01:06:13,211 --> 01:06:15,562 And for the rest of our generation, 1356 01:06:15,987 --> 01:06:17,862 for the rest of my lifetime, 1357 01:06:18,753 --> 01:06:22,377 this force will be continually searching for a nail. 1358 01:06:29,023 --> 01:06:31,890 Bin Laden's death had given the War on Terror new life. 1359 01:06:34,796 --> 01:06:37,993 After 9/11, there were seven people on the kill list. 1360 01:06:38,032 --> 01:06:40,865 In Iraq, 55 on the deck of cards. 1361 01:06:40,902 --> 01:06:42,893 By Afghanistan, there were thousands. 1362 01:06:44,739 --> 01:06:47,367 But now the list itself was changing. 1363 01:06:47,408 --> 01:06:48,773 Signature strikes, 1364 01:06:48,810 --> 01:06:49,810 TADS, 1365 01:06:49,844 --> 01:06:51,675 crowd killing- 1366 01:06:51,713 --> 01:06:53,442 a target list was no longer needed 1367 01:06:53,481 --> 01:06:55,507 to justify a strike like Al-Majalah. 1368 01:06:56,686 --> 01:06:58,551 All boys over the age of 15, 1369 01:06:58,721 --> 01:07:00,620 all men under the age of 70 1370 01:07:00,655 --> 01:07:02,987 were now fair game in targeted areas. 1371 01:07:04,958 --> 01:07:06,448 Like a flywheel, 1372 01:07:06,493 --> 01:07:09,054 the global War on Terror was spinning out of control. 1373 01:07:18,806 --> 01:07:20,273 When I began this story, 1374 01:07:20,308 --> 01:07:22,776 the U.S. was at war in Iraq and Afghanistan. 1375 01:07:24,145 --> 01:07:26,272 The bombing in Al-Majalah brought me to Yemen. 1376 01:07:27,115 --> 01:07:28,548 But the list of countries 1377 01:07:28,583 --> 01:07:31,313 where U.S. Special Forces were operating had grown, 1378 01:07:31,352 --> 01:07:33,047 just as the kill list had. 1379 01:07:34,168 --> 01:07:36,013 Algeria, Indonesia, 1380 01:07:36,057 --> 01:07:38,582 Thailand, Panama, Jordan- 1381 01:07:39,427 --> 01:07:41,361 the world was now a battlefield. 1382 01:07:42,955 --> 01:07:45,890 It was hard to know where to go next. 1383 01:07:45,956 --> 01:07:48,947 In Pakistan, the U.S. was launching weekly drone strikes. 1384 01:07:49,203 --> 01:07:51,500 In Mali, they were hunting Al-Qaeda. 1385 01:07:51,538 --> 01:07:54,234 In Latin America, targeting drug cartels. 1386 01:07:55,509 --> 01:07:57,534 I decided to go to Somalia, 1387 01:07:57,577 --> 01:07:59,205 where an escalated kill/capture program 1388 01:07:59,247 --> 01:08:00,407 was under way. 1389 01:08:07,822 --> 01:08:09,949 Just as McRaven had testified, 1390 01:08:09,991 --> 01:08:12,084 the war was erupting in East Africa. 1391 01:08:13,694 --> 01:08:15,662 Drone strikes were increasing. 1392 01:08:15,696 --> 01:08:18,460 There were suicide bombings in Kampala and Mogadishu. 1393 01:08:18,499 --> 01:08:20,228 And JSOC was on the ground, 1394 01:08:20,268 --> 01:08:22,236 snatching bodies and flying them back to ships 1395 01:08:22,270 --> 01:08:23,612 in the Arabian Sea. 1396 01:08:23,642 --> 01:08:25,936 ADEN ADDE AIRPORT MOGADISHU, SOMALIA 1397 01:08:26,941 --> 01:08:28,738 Almost as soon as I arrived, 1398 01:08:28,776 --> 01:08:30,576 I sensed that things weren't going to go well. 1399 01:08:34,049 --> 01:08:36,984 Mogadishu was seeing its worst fighting in years, 1400 01:08:37,019 --> 01:08:39,247 and there were no foreign journalists left in the city. 1401 01:08:40,420 --> 01:08:42,388 My local contact, Bashir Osman, 1402 01:08:42,422 --> 01:08:44,049 was worried about my safety. 1403 01:08:44,090 --> 01:08:45,090 Okay? 1404 01:08:45,091 --> 01:08:46,319 It's okay. 1405 01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:47,418 All right. 1406 01:08:53,267 --> 01:08:54,894 It was a strange feeling, 1407 01:08:54,936 --> 01:08:56,301 traveling with a dozen armed men 1408 01:08:56,337 --> 01:08:57,497 in a decoy car. 1409 01:08:58,806 --> 01:09:00,774 I still had my reporter's notebook, 1410 01:09:00,808 --> 01:09:03,140 but what could I learn in conditions like these? 1411 01:09:10,585 --> 01:09:13,053 Before arriving in Somalia, I had read reports 1412 01:09:13,087 --> 01:09:15,055 that the U.S. was outsourcing the kill lists 1413 01:09:15,089 --> 01:09:16,887 to local warlords. 1414 01:09:19,895 --> 01:09:21,886 Among the most powerful in Mogadishu 1415 01:09:21,930 --> 01:09:23,727 was Yusuf Mohamed Siad, 1416 01:09:23,765 --> 01:09:25,823 known by everyone as Indha Adde, 1417 01:09:25,867 --> 01:09:27,390 "White Eyes." 1418 01:09:31,001 --> 01:09:33,337 GEN. INDHA ADDE US-BACKED SOMALI ARMY 1419 01:09:35,942 --> 01:09:38,969 In an earlier life, Indha Adde had been America's enemy, 1420 01:09:39,013 --> 01:09:42,414 offering protection to people on the U.S. kill list. 1421 01:09:42,450 --> 01:09:44,350 But the warlord had since changed sides. 1422 01:09:44,947 --> 01:09:46,945 He was now on the U.S. payroll 1423 01:09:46,988 --> 01:09:49,252 and assumed the title of general. 1424 01:09:49,290 --> 01:09:51,019 So he's saying that the fiercest fighting 1425 01:09:51,058 --> 01:09:53,390 that they're doing right now is happening right here. 1426 01:09:56,864 --> 01:09:57,956 Okay. 1427 01:10:07,342 --> 01:10:09,833 The men fired across the rooftops, 1428 01:10:09,878 --> 01:10:12,277 but it didn't make sense to me what we were doing here... 1429 01:10:13,287 --> 01:10:16,181 Or what the Americans were doing here in Somalia, 1430 01:10:16,216 --> 01:10:18,013 arming this warlord-turned-general 1431 01:10:18,051 --> 01:10:20,485 for what seemed like a senseless war. 1432 01:10:21,988 --> 01:10:23,148 We got to move. 1433 01:10:29,830 --> 01:10:32,060 So these were Shabaab fighters you buried here? 1434 01:10:32,099 --> 01:10:33,367 Yes, two, uh-huh. 1435 01:10:33,397 --> 01:10:38,694 If we capture foreign fighters alive, we bury them. 1436 01:10:38,861 --> 01:10:40,696 We kill them when we catch them. 1437 01:10:41,075 --> 01:10:42,599 If you capture a foreigner alive, 1438 01:10:42,643 --> 01:10:44,133 you execute them on the battlefield? 1439 01:10:44,658 --> 01:10:45,826 Yes. 1440 01:10:46,744 --> 01:10:51,498 So that other foreigners expect no mercy. 1441 01:10:54,256 --> 01:10:57,248 [Indistinct conversations] 1442 01:11:05,131 --> 01:11:07,463 How did the Americans find men like Indha Adde? 1443 01:11:07,500 --> 01:11:08,831 And to what end? 1444 01:11:11,171 --> 01:11:12,968 After a decade of covert war, 1445 01:11:13,006 --> 01:11:14,736 Somalia was in ruins. 1446 01:11:14,775 --> 01:11:16,402 Half the country was ruled 1447 01:11:16,444 --> 01:11:17,911 by the local Al-Qaeda affiliate, 1448 01:11:17,945 --> 01:11:20,243 the other half by men like the general, 1449 01:11:20,281 --> 01:11:22,647 wandering the streets with an endless kill list 1450 01:11:22,683 --> 01:11:23,843 and a band of men. 1451 01:11:26,487 --> 01:11:29,479 [Indistinct conversations] 1452 01:11:30,958 --> 01:11:32,118 Every time we stopped, 1453 01:11:32,159 --> 01:11:33,626 people looked at us nervously, 1454 01:11:33,661 --> 01:11:35,458 and I was told that my very presence 1455 01:11:35,496 --> 01:11:37,930 was endangering them. 1456 01:11:37,965 --> 01:11:40,935 Bashir would insist we leave moments after we arrived. 1457 01:11:42,037 --> 01:11:43,163 Okay, we go. 1458 01:11:48,285 --> 01:11:50,913 I wanted to see beneath the surface of the war 1459 01:11:51,112 --> 01:11:53,909 to understand what it meant to ordinary Somalis. 1460 01:11:53,947 --> 01:11:55,539 [Indistinct conversations] 1461 01:11:55,582 --> 01:11:58,050 But I was passed from warlord to warlord 1462 01:11:58,084 --> 01:11:59,551 and soon realized the only people 1463 01:11:59,586 --> 01:12:01,918 I'd be able to meet were men with guns. 1464 01:12:02,659 --> 01:12:04,940 You know when you are fighting with enemy, 1465 01:12:05,495 --> 01:12:07,034 any option is open. 1466 01:12:09,596 --> 01:12:10,674 No mercy. 1467 01:12:11,870 --> 01:12:13,337 MOHAMMED QANYARE US-BACKED WARLORD 1468 01:12:13,367 --> 01:12:14,834 For years, Mohamed Qanyare 1469 01:12:14,869 --> 01:12:16,837 was Washington's man in Mogadishu. 1470 01:12:16,871 --> 01:12:19,203 His methods were extreme, 1471 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,037 but Washington insisted Qanyare's services 1472 01:12:21,075 --> 01:12:22,667 were vital to their kill campaign. 1473 01:12:22,710 --> 01:12:23,972 Who were the people 1474 01:12:24,011 --> 01:12:26,071 that the Americans wanted your help tracking? 1475 01:12:26,104 --> 01:12:27,910 No, I don't want to talk about that. 1476 01:12:27,916 --> 01:12:29,987 - You don't want to talk about that. - I don't. 1477 01:12:29,997 --> 01:12:32,643 Did they offer to fund any operations? 1478 01:12:32,947 --> 01:12:35,110 That one also, no comment. 1479 01:12:35,128 --> 01:12:37,173 - You don't want to comment on that. - No comment. 1480 01:12:37,224 --> 01:12:39,158 But you're targeting people for the Americans. 1481 01:12:39,204 --> 01:12:41,063 Yes, we arrest and interrogate 1482 01:12:41,110 --> 01:12:43,672 and release if we don't see nothing. 1483 01:12:44,016 --> 01:12:45,204 That's our business. 1484 01:12:45,231 --> 01:12:46,698 And when these American operations 1485 01:12:46,733 --> 01:12:48,894 kill innocent people, what's the impact? 1486 01:12:49,903 --> 01:12:51,481 America knows war. 1487 01:12:51,582 --> 01:12:53,121 They are war masters. 1488 01:12:53,168 --> 01:12:54,949 They knows better than me. 1489 01:12:55,473 --> 01:12:58,207 So when they funded a war, they know how to fund it. 1490 01:12:58,238 --> 01:13:00,637 They don't even to touch to tell them. 1491 01:13:01,168 --> 01:13:02,457 They know very well. 1492 01:13:02,463 --> 01:13:04,425 They are teachers. Great teachers. 1493 01:13:11,818 --> 01:13:15,515 A roadside bomb blast hit a minibus 1494 01:13:15,843 --> 01:13:17,710 full of civilians. 1495 01:13:17,781 --> 01:13:19,273 Three people died at the spot 1496 01:13:19,545 --> 01:13:21,366 and many other were injured as well. 1497 01:13:21,372 --> 01:13:23,363 They're all being taken to Madina Hospital? 1498 01:13:23,418 --> 01:13:25,106 To Madina Hospital, yes. 1499 01:13:57,605 --> 01:13:59,266 For over a decade, 1500 01:13:59,306 --> 01:14:02,708 JSOC and the CIA had free rein in Somalia. 1501 01:14:02,744 --> 01:14:04,905 All their tactics were on display- 1502 01:14:04,946 --> 01:14:08,278 drone strikes, night raids, mercenaries. 1503 01:14:09,850 --> 01:14:12,683 As the War on Terror entered a second decade, 1504 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,780 Somalia seemed like a laboratory of the future, 1505 01:14:15,823 --> 01:14:17,450 and the future looked bleak. 1506 01:14:20,999 --> 01:14:23,210 KENYA-SOMALIA BORDER 1507 01:14:31,204 --> 01:14:32,968 I was ready to leave Somalia 1508 01:14:33,007 --> 01:14:34,634 and decided to call my editor. 1509 01:14:38,161 --> 01:14:40,356 But the news from home what not what I expected. 1510 01:14:42,016 --> 01:14:44,246 Anwar Al-Awlaki was dead, 1511 01:14:44,285 --> 01:14:45,411 killed in a drone strike 1512 01:14:45,452 --> 01:14:47,511 authorized by the President himself. 1513 01:14:49,124 --> 01:14:51,285 Another name struck from the list. 1514 01:14:56,664 --> 01:14:58,063 I wanted to go home, 1515 01:14:58,098 --> 01:15:00,066 to be done with it all. 1516 01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:01,260 But I couldn't. 1517 01:15:11,152 --> 01:15:12,392 SANA'A, YEMEN 1518 01:15:12,579 --> 01:15:14,547 I got another call, 1519 01:15:14,581 --> 01:15:16,071 and this one left me stunned. 1520 01:15:17,517 --> 01:15:19,485 Two weeks after Al-Awlaki's death, 1521 01:15:19,519 --> 01:15:22,512 the U.S. had launched another strike in Yemen. 1522 01:15:22,556 --> 01:15:24,456 Another American had been killed. 1523 01:15:25,859 --> 01:15:27,986 But this time, it was a teenage boy. 1524 01:15:29,730 --> 01:15:32,824 They had killed Anwar Al-Awlaki's 16-year-old son, 1525 01:15:32,866 --> 01:15:34,231 Abdulrahman. 1526 01:15:37,305 --> 01:15:39,000 I returned to Sana'a, 1527 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:40,472 but I wasn't sure why. 1528 01:15:41,942 --> 01:15:43,876 Was it to file another story? 1529 01:15:43,911 --> 01:15:46,004 To investigate another crime? 1530 01:15:47,014 --> 01:15:48,811 Or was it to apologize? 1531 01:16:12,339 --> 01:16:14,773 Abdulrahman left without telling us. 1532 01:16:16,510 --> 01:16:18,307 He said in a small note 1533 01:16:18,345 --> 01:16:20,779 that he's going to look for his father. 1534 01:16:22,383 --> 01:16:25,012 He left from the kitchen window, 1535 01:16:25,053 --> 01:16:28,215 and he took a bus to the governorate of Shabwah. 1536 01:16:29,757 --> 01:16:31,622 Then when his father was killed, 1537 01:16:31,659 --> 01:16:34,093 his grandmother told him, 1538 01:16:34,128 --> 01:16:36,790 "There is no use for you to stay anymore." 1539 01:16:36,830 --> 01:16:40,027 And he said, "Yes, I will come back in two days." 1540 01:16:45,506 --> 01:16:51,205 On the morning of October 15th, 1541 01:16:51,244 --> 01:16:52,734 we got a telephone call, 1542 01:16:52,779 --> 01:16:55,907 and they told us he was blown up to pieces 1543 01:16:55,948 --> 01:16:57,415 by the drone. 1544 01:16:58,651 --> 01:17:01,120 And they saw only the back of his hair. 1545 01:17:01,155 --> 01:17:02,952 You know, his relative, his cousin, 1546 01:17:02,990 --> 01:17:04,753 he knew his hair from the back, 1547 01:17:04,792 --> 01:17:07,317 and he recognize it, and he knew 1548 01:17:07,361 --> 01:17:10,194 that Abdulrahman really was dead. 1549 01:17:10,230 --> 01:17:13,427 But they could not recognize his face or anything else. 1550 01:17:16,670 --> 01:17:17,830 I always teased with him 1551 01:17:17,871 --> 01:17:20,339 about his, you know, big- 1552 01:17:20,374 --> 01:17:22,433 his hair, you know, that he should cut it, 1553 01:17:22,476 --> 01:17:24,376 because I thought that he should do that. 1554 01:17:29,249 --> 01:17:31,444 The drone had not just killed the boy, 1555 01:17:31,485 --> 01:17:32,816 it vanished him. 1556 01:17:34,822 --> 01:17:37,289 I asked to see photos of Abdulrahman 1557 01:17:37,323 --> 01:17:39,120 and suddenly realized why I was here. 1558 01:17:42,595 --> 01:17:45,291 It wasn't to investigate another death. 1559 01:17:45,331 --> 01:17:47,822 I wanted to see him when he was still alive. 1560 01:17:47,867 --> 01:17:50,837 [Indistinct conversations] 1561 01:18:28,941 --> 01:18:31,307 Abdulrahman's grandmother was in mourning 1562 01:18:31,344 --> 01:18:34,279 but sat down with me for a moment to talk. 1563 01:18:34,313 --> 01:18:35,974 What did Abdulrahman do? 1564 01:18:37,284 --> 01:18:40,685 Who ordered the killing of Abdulrahman? 1565 01:18:40,721 --> 01:18:43,815 He was sitting, having dinner with his friends. 1566 01:18:43,857 --> 01:18:45,485 How come he was killed? 1567 01:18:45,527 --> 01:18:46,891 What did he do? 1568 01:18:48,195 --> 01:18:49,685 You know, Abdulrahman was... 1569 01:18:51,031 --> 01:18:53,556 He was a very, very gentle boy, 1570 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,625 and he never hurt anybody. 1571 01:19:15,031 --> 01:19:17,397 I tried to make sense of Abdulrahman's death. 1572 01:19:19,976 --> 01:19:22,444 His father's could at least be explained. 1573 01:19:22,728 --> 01:19:24,423 But a teenager with a Facebook page 1574 01:19:24,464 --> 01:19:27,263 and a group of adolescent friends, 1575 01:19:27,301 --> 01:19:30,429 why would his name have been put on the list? 1576 01:19:30,471 --> 01:19:32,234 What could he possibly have done? 1577 01:19:42,616 --> 01:19:43,742 The Americans said 1578 01:19:43,784 --> 01:19:46,753 Abdulrahman was collateral damage, 1579 01:19:46,787 --> 01:19:49,187 but they offered no explanation for the strike. 1580 01:19:50,728 --> 01:19:53,561 And unlike Gardez, they made no apology. 1581 01:19:56,829 --> 01:19:58,820 It seemed an impossible coincidence. 1582 01:20:00,567 --> 01:20:02,194 They killed the father 1583 01:20:02,236 --> 01:20:03,396 and then the son. 1584 01:20:12,378 --> 01:20:14,608 But maybe it was as simple as that. 1585 01:20:16,517 --> 01:20:19,509 Like a tale from Greek mythology, 1586 01:20:19,553 --> 01:20:22,420 Abdulrahman was killed not for what he'd done 1587 01:20:22,456 --> 01:20:24,515 but for who he might one day become... 1588 01:20:26,493 --> 01:20:28,484 A twisted logic, 1589 01:20:28,529 --> 01:20:30,121 a logic without end. 1590 01:20:42,342 --> 01:20:44,401 Nasser had lost his firstborn son 1591 01:20:44,444 --> 01:20:46,605 and his first grandson. 1592 01:20:46,647 --> 01:20:49,480 But what did we lose when the drone struck 1593 01:20:49,516 --> 01:20:51,848 Abdulrahman and his teenage friends? 1594 01:21:17,144 --> 01:21:20,113 When I first visited Gardez, 1595 01:21:20,147 --> 01:21:22,377 I had no idea where the story would lead me. 1596 01:21:28,956 --> 01:21:31,481 I didn't know just how much the world had changed... 1597 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:35,751 Or how much the journey would change me. 1598 01:21:42,668 --> 01:21:45,159 But I realize now the story has no end. 1599 01:21:52,645 --> 01:21:55,274 Somehow, in front of our eyes, 1600 01:21:55,315 --> 01:21:56,942 undeclared wars have been launched 1601 01:21:56,984 --> 01:21:59,389 in countries across the globe, 1602 01:21:59,873 --> 01:22:02,417 foreigners and citizens alike assassinated 1603 01:22:02,456 --> 01:22:03,753 by presidential decree... 1604 01:22:05,892 --> 01:22:07,689 The War on Terror transformed 1605 01:22:07,728 --> 01:22:09,696 into a self-fulfilling prophecy. 1606 01:22:12,265 --> 01:22:14,256 How does a war like this ever end? 1607 01:22:17,838 --> 01:22:19,601 And what happens to us 1608 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,108 when we finally see what's hidden in plain sight? 1609 01:26:06,732 --> 01:26:08,732 END 120449

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