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In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate

yet equally important groups. The police who investigate crime and the district

attorneys who prosecute the offenders.

These are their stories.

I'm telling you, you have it all wrong.

I'm not responsible.

Listen to me.

Listen to me.

Please, I have to go.

Do I hear 410,000?

Do I hear 410?

410, right down in front. Oh, good, boss. You're missing the action. Do I

hear 415,000?

Do I hear 415?

415. Do I hear 420?

420 in the back from Wendy. Do I hear 430?

Do I hear 430?

Hammer's up.

Damn, Andy, what a find.

Hammer's up.

Sold at $420,000.

You are my hero.

Who's that, Vic?

Andrew Carson, age 41.

Super says he lives alone.

Who found him?

Cleaning lady. She's been working for him two years. Always comes at 10 once

he's out the door. Didn't know much about him. We took a statement.

Blood force trauma?

Yep. With this.

Made of stone.

Guy's got a bunch of statues and stuff like this around.

Any prints on it?

No, but we did find a brown hair on his shirt.

Okay, let's run DNA. Time of death?

MLI said based on temp and rigidity somewhere between 9 and 11 last night.

This building got any surveillance?

Camera's at the entrance by the keypad.

Don't look like there was a struggle.

No sign of forced entry.

No glasses out, lights are bright.

Don't look like he was entertaining.

Well, he wasn't robbed.

Wallets here on the table.

That's a Tag Heuer smartwatch.

I'm not a watch guy.

3K on a good day. All right, let's check his biometric data, see if we can fix

the exact time of death.

Meridian Auction House.

A Night of Magnificent Discoveries, August 26th, 6 p.m.

Well, we know where he was last night.

Andy wasn't just at the auction. He organized the auction.

He was our head of antiquities, one of the best in the business.

Scraped sellers, the fanciest buyers, super knowledgeable, discreet.

He scored unbelievable items.

We heard he lived alone.

Anyone we should notify?

Not that I know of.

His parents had passed.

He divorced a few years ago. No kids.

Ex-wife lives in the Hamptons. I don't think they speak.

You dating anyone?

More like, who wasn't he dating?

but no one special, I think.

What time did you leave here last night?

Auction ended around 7.45.

He was gone by 8.

You leave alone?

Yeah. I offered to go celebrate with him. The auction was a major success,

but he said he was headed home to recharge.

He was exhausted.

Anything else?

The only weird thing is that Andy was late to the auction.

He'd been planning the night for five months, but...

He was stuck on some call in his office, so it must have been important.

Okay. Do you know who he was talking to? Not a clue.

Afterwards, he didn't want to talk about it.

Well, if you think of anything else...

Calvino. Yep?

Video came in from Carson's building.

All right, he punches in at 827.

Seems he went straight home from the auction.

Who came in after him?

A few tenants use their access code and enter before 10 p.m., but at the bottom

right of the panel is Carson's button, and you can see someone hit it at 9.22.

Spent some time shouting into the intercom, and then he finally slips in

behind the delivery guy.

We catch him on the way out?

Yep. Six minutes later.

You run that through facial rec?

Nothing.

All we have to go on is this.

Oh, NYU.

That's great. Narrows it down. Only half the city went there.

Carson's work phone records just landed. Guess what?

That call that kept him in his office before the auction came from the

Manhattan DA's office.

I got a credible complaint that day about a 6th century Buddha that was

about to go up for auction.

Complaint saying what? That the Buddha had been looted from Afghanistan 25

years ago by the Taliban.

How'd Carson take that?

I'd say disturbingly nonchalant for someone that just stumbled into a

thousand-year Afghani power battle.

I chase these white-collar guys all day long.

They're uniformly ill-equipped for the mess they get themselves into.

A lot of this stuff is stolen?

Stolen, forged, tax havens for power players you do not want on your contact

list, or money laundering vehicles for organized crime.

Frankly, I'm surprised more of these guys don't end up dead.

Any idea who might have been pissed at Carson for orchestrating that particular

auction last night?

Complaint came in a day ago. A man named Abdul Ahad Farhadi. I spoke to him on

the phone. He was very angry. He said anyone selling this statue was

conspiring with the Taliban and should be held accountable.

Farhadi, you got a record?

All I know is the guy's an art conservator and a professor.

Let me guess.

NYU.

We know you called into Andy Carson's office in the days before his murder.

Murder? And we know he was blowing off your calls.

So you paid him a visit at his home last night. I did not.

See? That's you at his building.

Killing a man over a Buddha statue.

You seen the irony? I did not kill him. I just needed to speak with him. That's

a whole lot of urgency over, what, old art?

You don't understand.

The Buddha was stolen from the Mes Ainak archaeological site. I was the

conservator there before the Taliban invasion.

You make it sound like you think you had a right to kill him. I had every right

to confront him. In his home?

9.30 at night? Come on, man.

I only heard it was up for sale a few days ago. I tried the proper channels.

No one was responding.

Then I watched the auction on livestream, and I got very agitated.

So you tracked down Carson's address, you slipped into his building, and you

got revenge?

No. He wasn't responding to me on the intercom, and I needed to get the name

of the seller, the thief, who put it up for auction, so I could initiate a claim

with Interpol.

When I got inside, Carson wasn't home.

I knocked and knocked, so I finally left.

Look, I am not a murderer.

My country has been pilfered.

Got no alibi to speak of, but plenty of means, motive, and opportunity.

Yeah, yeah, but honestly, do you see Carson open up his door at that time of

night for some art conservatory?

Um, what time did your guy Farhadi get to Carson's?

Entered at 9.22, exited at 9.31.

Well, we just got the data from the Vic's smart watch.

Heart rate spiked at 9.06, and by 9.14, no heartbeat.

Farhadi hadn't even got to the victim's building by that time. Yeah, let him go.

Also, I just had to listen to Carson's last voicemails. Big Switty called him.

Big Switty? The rapper?

Mm-hmm.

Called him an hour before the murder. Listen to this.

Hey, Carson, you want to make this thing ugly, I'll break your face ugly.

Carson's dead.

For real?

Serves his dumbass right.

You sound broken up.

How do you know him?

Through the art scene.

My wife and I like African art.

Andy was our broker.

Liked him, too.

Until I found out this Egyptian mask that I bought for 300 grand was a fake.

You blame Andy?

Damn straight.

Told him I wanted my money back.

May I?

Please. He pony up?

No. You get pissed?

Hell yeah.

But my wife had a soft spot for the guy.

Told me we should resolve this like adults.

So we invited him and his girlfriend over for dinner a month ago.

Then I let him know I wanted my money.

Gave him 30 days.

Let me guess.

He didn't pay.

Deadline was yesterday.

That's why I left that message.

I'm gonna ask you this question.

Where were you last night at 9.30? At dinner with my manager and my lawyer.

This girlfriend of his, guy name?

Lucy Butler.

They weren't getting along so good, that's for sure.

What makes you say that?

She just kept rolling her eyes at everything he said.

Like she knew he was full of it.

Okay.

Thank you for your time.

Thank you. No worries.

Hey,

the hair we found in the crime scene belonged to a woman.

Let's go see how bad things were with Lucy Puppet.

I heard this morning.

I still can't believe he's dead.

When was the last time you saw him?

Three, four weeks ago.

Think it's gonna work out?

No.

I mean, I tried, but... Like, I knew Andy had a reputation for dating a lot

of women, but he swore to me he was a changed man and he wanted to settle down

and all that.

So he cheated on you?

With his ex-wife.

Seriously. You heard they didn't speak.

Oh, yeah, he told me that, too.

Said he hated her.

Then one day, he tells me he's going to the gym, but he's actually meeting up

with his ex at some swank hotel.

Oh. How'd that make you feel?

Like an idiot.

Yeah. Yeah, but... You were pretty upset.

Yeah, I was.

I didn't kill him, for God's sake. I just broke up with him.

Of course, he was cheating with his ex-wife.

Yes.

He denied it, of course.

Claimed that they were just discussing some kind of stressful legal matter.

So where were you last night?

On a date.

Can we get his name?

Lucy Butler's date confirmed they met at 7.30 and parted ways at 10 p.m.

Any word on whether the ex-wife was back in the picture?

We had almost no communication with her. But from the divorce violence, I could

see why.

Carson tried to squeeze her out of as much money as possible.

She's rich. Oh, she's rich.

The family started an actual bank rich.

You know, luckily for her, his rampant infidelity was frowned upon by the

court.

So I'm thinking reconciliation was off the table for her. Well, after that

lunch, she sent him a single text about a week before the murder.

Are you ever going to respond?

And let me guess, he did not.

Nada. Okay, maybe there was some pressing legal matter they had to

discuss, and he blew her off. She got pissed.

Well, she's coming back from the Hamptons tomorrow morning, and she was

gracious enough to give us a place where we could meet her.

Nice.

No, please.

There was nothing secretive or salacious about our meeting.

We had lunch about a month ago by request.

I wanted to let Andy know about my upcoming memoir.

Memoir?

Jilted. It's about our marriage.

Did that create a legal dispute?

Some tension?

Well, it could have.

And I was expecting pushback, but...

I was honest with Andy. I told him I wrote about how he spent my money, how

he cheated on me.

Cheated during my battle with breast cancer while I was undergoing

chemotherapy.

Sounds like you're not sending flowers to his wake.

No, I will not.

So you really had an axe to grind, huh?

Yes, I did at first.

I thought I was going to spend my life with that man and start a family, and

then suddenly my future was shattered.

And then I saw that it was all actually...

part of God's plan for me.

Why didn't you just call him and give him a heads up?

You could have had a lawyer sent over and help me.

Have you ever been unceremoniously dumped, detective, and dragged through

the mud and humiliated in divorce court?

In fact, yes, I have, just a few months ago.

The last time Andy saw me, I was a weak, begging wreck, and I invited Andy to

lunch because I wanted him to see me like this.

How do you two leave things?

At the lunch, I told him that I had left our divorce a happier person and that I

forgave him.

Thanks to God.

Okay. Where were you two nights ago?

Um, I was at my house in the Hamptons watching TV.

Thank you for your time.

If you think of anything else, let us know.

Of course. Oh, thank you.

Sorry to hear about the breakup, man.

No, no, no, it's all good. I was just playing.

The ex-wife's Hampton stories checks out.

The phone pinged from her residence the night of question. I ran her plate. So

she hasn't driven back to the city since she had lunch with Carson. That was a

month ago.

But we know from the DNA that it was a woman, so the only lead we have on that

front right now is the ex-girlfriend, whose story seems to be checking out,

correct? I got that video of the ex-girlfriend you wanted. Yeah? So it

starts with her leaving the restaurant and parting ways with her date at 8.53.

Then she started to walk in Carson's direction.

And two blocks later, she peels west.

Any chance she doubled back any place?

I thought the same thing, so I started pulling video between there and Carson's

apartment.

No sign of the ex-girlfriend, but take a look at this.

This is two blocks from Carson's crib.

Ooh, I'm sorry. I'm really nervous.

This is my first press. Relax, you'll do great.

And the book was wonderful.

I really loved it.

Okay, get ready and just watch for the green light.

Five, four, three.

NYPD. Excuse me, we're about to report. Caroline Sanders, you're under arrest

for the murder of Andrew Carson.

I guess you turn around and put your hands behind your back.

Real easy.

Thank you.

Hey, don't worry. It's going to make a hell of a sequel.

The evidence against Caroline Sanders is seemingly rock solid.

Yeah. Looks like police found clear video of her near the crime scene that

night and video of her at his building eight minutes before he was killed,

hiding her face with a scarf, using a passcode to punch in. Seems like she

knew the entry code from when they shared the apartment during the

marriage. The warrant for her DNA gives a sample to prove she has a match for

the hair found on the victim.

Yeah, but what's the motive?

Divorce was a legal bloodbath, but that was two years ago, and Caroline made off

well. Her life was on the total upswing. Why kill him now?

Let's start with any and all phone calls, emails, texts after this mystery

lunch.

We received your subpoena. Take a seat.

Thanks.

So, Andy Carson called these offices...

five times on July 24th.

Can you tell me why?

He called incessantly, and they ended up having to page me.

He was in quite a state.

So, Andy and Caroline were patients?

Yes. When Caroline was diagnosed with cancer, IVF became their only option.

Because of the chemo, her eggs were no longer viable, and so they made sure

they had embryos frozen for after her recovery.

So... And he called about the embryos? He called to ask about their signed

paperwork. Who had rights to their embryos.

I assured him two-party consent was required for implantation. That seemed

to calm him.

Can I see that paperwork?

I can send you a digital copy.

The originals were transferred to our Pennsylvania storage facility with the

embryos.

Why were they moved?

Because of the chemo. They knew they'd need long-term storage.

Caroline was anxious about blackouts in the city, events that could compromise

the power supply, put the embryos at risk.

She knew this would be her last shot at biological motherhood.

Okay, thank you. Of course.

Um, one last thing.

Did Caroline ever reach out about the embryos after they were frozen?

She came to see me the same afternoon Andy called.

Caroline Sanders wanted to move forward and plant the embryos they had frozen.

Andy Carson didn't. Yeah, they signed paperwork that said they both had to

consent, so she felt stuck.

And the courts generally side in favor of the spouse who doesn't want to be a

parent. Right, so she knew she'd lose before a judge.

And I wouldn't worry about her getting sympathy from a jury. This is a state

where we don't believe in compelling people into parenthood.

Well, unless the embryos are made the old-fashioned way.

Caroline lost her say because she needed IVF. You may find a couple jurors

sympathetic to that legal contradiction.

Contradiction or not, we can show that she killed her ex to prevent him from

saying no.

Evidence clearly linking Caroline Sanders to this crime. Her hair was

found on the victim's clothing.

Video shows her entering his building eight minutes before the murder,

attempting to disguise herself.

In addition, she went to great efforts that night to cover her tracks.

She took the train into the city to avoid her license plate showing her

movements. She even left her cell phone at home to avoid being traced to the

vicinity of the crime. This murder was calculated and vicious.

Why did she kill him?

Because the only way for her to gain control of the embryos they created

together was to eliminate him from the equation entirely.

Your Honor, members of the jury, we don't contest the evidence

or the facts of this murder.

Mr. Price is absolutely right.

My client, Caroline Sanders, killed her ex-husband, but only because Andy Carson

was going to destroy those unborn lives, her unborn children.

She was entirely justified.

In fact, Caroline Sanders had no choice.

This was defense of others. Your Honor, may we approach?

Members of the jury, this is a good time for a short recess.

Counselors, I'll see you in my chambers now.

This murder to be justified as a defense of others, she had to be defending other

people. New York State is crystal clear on this matter. Embryos are not people.

There were no others to defend. And even if by some wild stretch they had been

deemed lives in this state, there was no imminent threat.

The law requires my client reasonably believe these were her children as of

conception. Not only did she believe it as a long-time practicing Catholic, but

her belief is objectively reasonable.

as it's a belief shared by 1.4 billion Catholics on this planet.

Your Honor, allowing this defense would not only contradict New York case law,

but it would be setting a dangerous precedent that could be used to impede

abortion rights and compromise IVF access.

By their own logic, this would allow a man to use force legally against a woman

trying to get an abortion.

These issues can and should be entirely separated.

You can't forbid my client a proper defense because someone else has...

personal or political concerns about its implications.

Like it or not, Alabama has granted embryos legal personhood, and 38 states

have fetal homicide laws.

Not New York.

No, but Pennsylvania, where my client's embryos were stored at the time this

crime occurred, does.

In that state, killing a fetus at any stage of gestation in a non-abortion act

can be deemed homicide. Your Honor, the crime occurred in New York.

This is a totally irrelevant citation of out-of-state statutes.

But the legal status of a person does depend entirely on where said person is.

I'm gonna have to play Solomon here.

New York law governs the crime, but Pennsylvania law necessitates that I

allow her justification defense.

Your Honor. It's up to the prosecution to disprove it.

And why did the defendant initially come under your care?

Caroline was diagnosed with breast cancer.

And Andy and Caroline were eager to make sure they could have children after her

chemotherapy was over. Prior to embarking on the medical steps for this

fertility plan, did the defendant and her husband sign any paperwork

pertaining to who had decision-making rights over the embryos once created?

Yes. They signed our standard forms that indicate the embryos are, in effect,

shared property, that no implantation is allowed without dual consent.

Did you ever discuss with the defendant the prospect of destroying the embryos?

Yes. Couples don't always want unused embryos stored in perpetuity.

So we advise them they have the option to destroy the embryos at any time. Did

the defendant exhibit any distress to the prospect of destroying the embryos?

Not that I recall.

Well, did she say that's out of the question?

She did not.

Did she say that would be murder?

No. Did she say anything or...

or ask anything that indicated that she considered the embryos to be actual

lives?

No. Thank you. Nothing pertinent.

Dr. Stanton, you said that she didn't appear to think of the embryos as actual

lives. Correct.

As a matter of scientific fact, is a sperm a cell?

Yes. A woman's egg a cell?

Yes. Is either one of those a living organism?

No.

Now, how about when the sperm and egg meet to form a zygote?

Is that biologically different?

Yes. In fact, the zygote created is a living single-cell organism, correct?

With its own unique human DNA.

Your Honor, relevance?

Mr. Price focuses direct on the matter of these embryos being lives.

These questions are needed to clarify the matter for the jury so they can

ascertain the reasonableness of my client's defense.

I'll allow it.

Saying life begins at conception.

Isn't that all scientifically inaccurate, is it?

In fact, it's biologically quite reasonable.

Well, it's a semantic way of saying... Of stating fact.

Nothing further.

Your Honor, redirect.

Go ahead.

Doctor.

Is an amoeba a single-cell living organism?

Yes. What about E. coli, or algae?

Yes, and yes.

The yeast we use in bread?

All single-cell living organisms.

Thank you.

Your Honor, people rest.

So how'd our doctor do?

What to talk about?

Psy goats and amoebas.

We just have to keep hammering them with the science and then no matter what the

defense puts on them, confident the jury will see through the attempt to use faux

religion to stampede over the law.

Well, but Catholic or not, lots of hopeful moms do see their faux in

cells as more than just cells.

And I can think of at least three female jurors who might be swayed by Caroline's

endo situation.

Most women her age do have something nice.

Do you?

Have something nice?

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, no, no. You don't have to answer that. It's fine.

It's okay.

Look, Nolan.

I love my job.

But do you think I want to come home every night to an empty apartment at 11

p.m. for the rest of my life?

No. It's the ultimate insurance policy.

for your most important life dreams.

Makes you feel like... like the option of a brand-new life with motherhood is

always there.

If someone destroyed that or threatened to destroy that chance, I'd be a total

wreck. You wouldn't kill.

Yeah. Wouldn't kill.

I think the key here is showing that Caroline Sanders was selfishly

defending... her own hopes, her own future. I mean, she killed her ex

-husband to protect the life that she wanted for herself.

This had nothing to do with defending others.

My breast cancer diagnosis was terrifying, but what was more terrifying

was what that meant for my dream of becoming a mother.

You know, that had always been the plan.

We just kind of put it off because you think you have forever.

And you know Andy and I thought that we would get to it when we were ready But

then suddenly we just need to have to make big decisions.

And so we started IVF immediately to freeze embryos But you and Andy divorced

before you could complete your fertility plan.

Yes a year into my chemo treatment we were driving home from dinner with

friends and Andy told me that he no longer wanted to be married to me and At

first, he didn't offer an explanation, but eventually I found out he was having

an affair.

One of many.

That must have been really tough.

It was horrible.

I was a wreck from chemo and radiation. I felt so ashamed.

And that's why I ended up writing the book, you see. I wanted to put that

truth into words.

And what happened when you finished the memoir?

Around the time that I sold the book to a publisher, I was declared cancer-free.

And I felt God's protection at last.

And so I thought, I'm ready to become a mother.

And I invited Andy to lunch, and I told him about the book and about being

cancer-free.

And I said I wanted his blessing to move forward with our embryos.

And what did he say?

He said that his life was changing and that it didn't feel right and that he

needed to think about it and he would get back to me.

Well, what happened next?

He never called.

I sent a follow-up text, nothing.

Eventually, I got tired of waiting, and I knew I needed his signature on the

consent form, so I brought that paperwork to his apartment that night.

And I told him that... after everything he put me through, after every betrayal,

refusing to let me use our embryos would be an unforgivable cruelty.

What did he say?

He said that sharing frozen embryos was an untenable entanglement.

A drama that he wanted to be free of.

Like my cancer was a drama he wanted to be free of.

And he just, he was yelling at me.

And he was saying that he was just sick of dealing with me.

That he'd just have our embryos destroyed immediately.

Destroyed. As my babies.

I couldn't let that happen.

Thank you, Caroline.

Nothing further?

Sounds like a very upsetting conversation.

Yes, it was.

And to clarify for the jury, at the end of that conversation, you lifted a 14

-pound marble statue and you smashed his face in?

I had no choice.

Uh, Ms. Sanders, by law... Defense of others requires that the others in

question be in imminent danger.

You bludgeoned Andy Carson to death at 9.14 p.m., yes? Yeah. But the facility

in Pennsylvania where your embryos were stored closed at 5 p.m. Your fertility

clinic closed at 5.30. How could Andy have possibly done anything to the

embryos that night? He told me that all he had to do was send an email.

I don't know what he set up legally. I don't know what that means, how that

works. Ms. Sanders, in your testimony, you just referred to the embryos as your

babies. To clarify, they were frozen cells over which you had freely granted

legal decision-making rights to your husband. I didn't know. When I signed

the paperwork, it was just a formality. Like, I didn't even read the fine print.

You also mentioned in your testimony your lifelong dream.

Don't those embryos merely represent your own deep hope for motherhood? It is

a dream that, in effect, you were willing to kill for.

Objection. Argumentative.

Sustained. They are not a dream, Mr. Price. They are real. They are my

babies. I am pregnant.

I am pregnant.

Right now.

With twins.

Um, Your Honor, move to strike.

I'll see everyone in my chambers.

Your Honor, this is a calculated stunt designed to elicit sympathy from the

jury. It's a clear ploy for jury nullification.

No, this is my client's life.

And implanting those embryos while she was out on bail was her full legal

right. They belonged entirely to her once Andy Carson died.

You mean once she murdered him. Mr. Price, we're far from a verdict.

Request this be struck from the record.

Her factual statement about her present medical condition?

We're silencing women from speaking about pregnancy now? And request the

jury be charged they cannot consider sympathy for the defendant, that they

are only permitted to apply facts to the law.

I'm not going to strike the testimony, but I will instruct the jury not to

factor sympathy into their deliberations.

And, Ms. Rowland, I caution you against any further stunts like this.

Understood.

After you.

Jury instructions aside, you have a pregnant defendant.

And I don't see anyone being very eager to send her away for 15 to life and

dooming those babies to the foster system.

I say we offer a deal.

For various reasons.

Meaning what?

Well, if we lose, we'd be setting a pretty dangerous precedent.

Well, I'm not convinced they'd even consider a deal.

They could have argued EED for a reduced sentence.

Probably would have gotten it, but they didn't.

It's all or nothing. Her whole defense hinges on her sacred belief of seeing

these embryos as lives, right? She's Catholic.

Said she thought he was going to kill her babies. It's a sham.

If it's a sham, good.

You just have to find something to discredit her made-up faith narrative.

What are we looking for here, Nolan?

A picture of her?

Burning a cross, shredding a Bible?

She played Abigail in The Crucible at college.

At least we're getting warmer.

Wait.

What is this?

Allies for Women's Rights?

A reproductive rights club.

It doesn't sound like a young Catholic's most likely extracurricular activity.

I'll check it out.

I've only seen her a couple of times since grad school, but yeah, we lived

together for two years.

We were both studying anthropology.

And Caroline was into a ton of liberal causes, including clinic defense.

We did a lot together.

She wasn't a Catholic back then?

I think her family was. Bank money, Sunday church goers. But Caroline didn't

take any of that seriously.

Not until the summer after graduation.

Then what? She just started going to church?

Then she got super into church. Went to mass every Sunday. Gold cross on her

neck. Refused to do clinic defense.

Any idea why?

I would never say this, except... I read about her case, and

I know how this could affect the pro-choice movement.

You okay?

Pretty sure Caroline Sanders had an abortion right after grad school.

What?

So much for being a devout Catholic.

But it doesn't speak to motive or to the case itself. We would never be able to

get access to her medical records.

Do we really need her records?

What do you mean?

I mean, we can just go in and ask her.

She made religion an issue, not us, Nolan.

So, uh, attack a woman in court for getting an abortion?

Hmm. Caroline Sanders got to lead the life she wanted to because the law

granted her the right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy.

Maybe it traumatized her. Maybe it made her change her point of view. Maybe it

led her to the church.

She got to make that choice. She does not have the right to potentially

jeopardize other women's choices just so she can get a free walk on murder.

One case on the New York books granting fetuses de facto personhood, the

floodgates open and there goes the right to an abortion.

No argument here, but... You really think that's gonna play with a jury

coming from a man?

Then let me do it.

You created the embryos with your husband before you started chemotherapy

and radiation.

Yes. Because, as you said, being a mother was your lifelong dream.

It was. It was everything.

And do you believe those embryos, frozen in liquid nitrogen in your doctor's

office six days into their petri dish development, were akin to full human

lives? You're using jargon to try to diminish their importance. Every human

life is irreplaceable, and embryos are the beginning of human life.

We're all God's unique creation, and my embryos were and are just waiting to

fulfill their full human potential.

And you couldn't allow someone to kill your unborn children.

No, I could not. Because in your eyes, anyone who would destroy a fetus is

essentially a murderer.

Yes. So you had to eliminate Andy Carson because he was going to kill your

babies. I wish it hadn't come to that, but yes.

Carolyn, you admit to killing Andy Carson.

I do. Prior to that, have you ever committed murder?

Objection, Your Honor.

Counsel's question is wildly inflammatory.

My client has never been charged with so much as a speeding ticket before this

case. Any suggestion of a prior bad act requires a Sandoval motion.

Your Honor, my question is relevant to showing the defendant may be committing

perjury. It's essential the jury hears her answer, and I will freeze.

I'll allow it, but this better get relevant soon.

Caroline, I'm going to ask you about murder in your own terms.

Have you ever had an abortion?

Please answer the question.

Yes, I did.

And it was murder.

Nothing further, Your Honor.

Please stop. It was the worst thing I ever did. It was okay. That's why I had

to protect them.

I'm sorry.

I'm so sorry.

I'm sorry.

Has

the jury

reached a verdict?

We have, Your Honor.

How does the jury find?

On the charge of murder in the second degree, we find the defendant guilty.

Nice work.

Thanks.

Want to get some lunch?

Um, sorry, I can't. I have plans.

Samantha. Hi.

Come on back.

So what brings you in?

I think I'm finally ready to get started.

I just realized I don't have forever.

You will make an excellent mother.