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it's funny, isn't it?
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dead cars are quite beautiful
in their way,
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whereas dead people--
not so much.huh?
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i suppose if we were cars,
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this place would be
a horrific charnel house.
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ugh. it's too early
for philosophy.
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never too early.
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hey, cho!
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hey.
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over here.
i got something to show you.
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hey, we've got
an unidentified female,
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somewhere in her late teens,
early 20s.
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oh, wow. a little notice
would've been nice.
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be grateful it's wintertime.
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it could be a lot worse.
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looks like she was bludgeoned
multiple times
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around her left temple.
there's some serious
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blunt force trauma to
the back of her head as well.somebody wanted her good
and dead.
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how long has she been down? from the decomposition
of the body,
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she's probably been out here at least a week.
is that the guy who found her?
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yeah,
came across the victim
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when he was combing
through the van.it looks like somebody
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took something off of her
after she was already here.a watch or a bracelet,
i'm guessing.
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left the earrings though. found
a set of tracks over there.
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i think they're connected.it's a salvage area. there'd
have to be lots of tracks.
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yeah, it's a long shot,
but there weren't many tracks
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in the area,
and these look pretty fresh.
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smells like
transmission fluid.
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that's what i thought.
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i'll have forensics run
some tests.
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now if a vehicle with a leaking
transmission made the track,
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then the driver couldn't have
gone far without service.
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hey, what's--
what's his name?franklin.
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cool, it boy.
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may i?
i have a way with dogs.
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hey, franklin. how are you?
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yeah, you're a good boy.
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i thought you said
you had a way with dogs.
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he wanted freedom.
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franklin! heel!
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keep up, lisbon!
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franklin!
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what's that?
franklin, come.
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come on now.
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get out of there,
franklin.
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aah! it's a foot!
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ohh!
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another body. are you done?
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hey, what do you say, franklin?
are we done yet? huh, we done?
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the test confirmed there was
a lot of transmission fluid
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in that track at the scene.
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and the tire pattern only fits
a few specific van models.i'm checking garages
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to see if any vehicles
fitting the description
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were turned in
with transmission problems
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over the last week.all right.
cho, you mind helping him out?
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is there a problem here?no.
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no, ma'am.great. i see a name.
did we i.d. the victims?
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only on one.
got a hit on her prints.
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it's for the second victim
you found.
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her name was valerie bestin.
no next of kin.
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she was arrested four years ago
after hitting a homeless man
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while driving drunk.the m.e. puts her time of death
within the last 24 hours.
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bestin was bludgeoned
in the same manner
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as the first victim.
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what about an i.d.
on the other victim?her prints haven't come up yet.
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the m.e. pegs her
as latina, early 20s.
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do a preliminary search of
the missing persons database.
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maybe we'll get lucky.yes, ma'am.
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all right, we've got
two victims--one caucasian,
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the other probably latina.
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at least a 10-year age gap
between them,
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and judging by their clothes,
valerie had more money.
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but both were bludgeoned
and dumped in the same place
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one week after the other.
what's the connection?library, bowling alley,
nail salon. could be anything.
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well, let's focus
on what we doknow.
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what about the homeless guy
bestin hit?
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he's been in a secure
mental facility since last year.speaking of mental facilities,
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have you seen jane?
i need to talk to him.
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jane?
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hmm?
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where's my couch?
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oh.
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yes. i bought you
a new one.
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i like my old couch.no, you don't.
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you've gotta try this one.let's discuss it later.
we have to talk.
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have you ever been
into knitting?what?
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no, of course not.
you grew up surrounded by boys.what are you talking about?
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hi there. you seem to have
very nimble fingers.
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are you now or have you
ever been a knitter?no. agent lisbon.
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yes, dr. montague.
it's a pleasure to meet you.
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and you must be patrick jane.i must be. you were saying
we needed to talk.
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yes, dr. montague
is consulting on the case.
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oh?
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yes, she's
a decision science consultant.
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she works with the fbi
and state agencies.
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her work helped bring in
the quarry killer.
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i'm developing
a predictive computer model.
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it identifies the patterns in
crimes and assesses whether
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or not they were committed
by the same perpetrator.
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wow. cool.
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the systems flagged
your two murders
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as the re-emergence of a killer
known as "the caveman."
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i remember him.
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he bludgeoned his victims
with a wooden club.
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that was ten years ago.
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indeed, but the similarities
between his victims
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and the victims in this case
are statistically identical.how so?
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the caveman always picks
two victims, one week apart.
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same physical attributes--
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brunettes, 120 to 140 pounds.
in every other respect,
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the choice seems entirely
random--
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no geographic
or demographic pattern.
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victims are bludgeoned
on the side of the head
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with a wooden object,
no evidence of sexual assault,
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bodies are left in waste sites
and scrap yards,
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and the victims
are unknown to each other.
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this is classic caveman.
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hmm. well, at least
you're wrong with conviction.
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these two women knew
each other.how do you know that?
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okay, so this one...
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yes, now if you look
at the detail
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in this rose, and then again
at the detail in this scarf,
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they were both done
by the same hand.
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hmm. intriguing
handicraft theory.
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yeah.
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but even if we were able
to establish a link
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between the victims,
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it doesn't exclude the caveman
from being the killer.
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it merely expands
the modeling paradigm.
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merely expands
the modeling paradigm.
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wasn't the caveman known for
sending poetry, animal organs,
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even crude drawings
to the police?
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we haven't received
anything like that.
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we will.hi, boss.
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found out that valerie bestin
was a financial director
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at an online company
called agile turtle.
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dr. montague, this is
agent wayne rigsby.
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rigsby, dr. montague's
consulting on the case,
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and you'll be her liaison.it's a pleasure to meet you.
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why don't you show her
around?all right, i can keep you
the 50-cent tour.
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start in
the major crimes section.
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really?
a decision science consultant?
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don't start.
this goes way above us.
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we're good to the feds,
the feds will be good to us.
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when in doubt,
don't act out.
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you just made a rhyme.
when am i ever in doubt?
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seriously, you start trouble,
and i will...you'll burst my bubble?
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she was such a good person,
you know?
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she took all these
underprivileged-like kids
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hiking at half dome
earlier this year.
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mr. beechum, did valerie
have any friends or co-workers
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that were young latinas?mm, no.
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there's not really that
many women that work here.
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you had a crush on her,
didn't you?
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why do you say that?
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attractive young woman,
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single computer programmer,
birds, bees.
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i could go on.
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i'm more of an entrepreneur
than a programmer these days,
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but that isn't
an untrue statement.
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she was a lovely lady.
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hmm. but when you made
your move, she shot you down.
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no. well...
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yeah, i wouldn't really
call it a move.
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but there were
no hard feelings.
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i mean, if i killed every woman
that shot me down,
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i would be a monster.
you know, well...
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i mean, i'm not...
you know what i mean.
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mnh-mnh.
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when was the last time
you saw valerie?
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uh, yesterday at work.
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okay,
i think we're done here.
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you do?yes.
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oh, actually, no.
i have one more question.
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where's the nearest
homeless shelter?
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valerie was deeply guilt-ridden
over hitting the homeless guy.
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she started collecting soap,
shampoo, and crayons.
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she was taking kids hiking.
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she probably volunteered
her time--in a homeless shelter?
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sometimes you act
like i don't know jack.
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more rhyming.
now that's even rapping.
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♪ sometimes you act
like i don't know jack ♪
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i'm-a drop a beat
back there.
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yeah.yee-yee.
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valerie bestin?
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of course.
she volunteered here.
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that's what i told
the other people.
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what other people?
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um, those people.
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hi.
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how'd you know
to come here?
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women are 17% more likely
than men to self-direct
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into redemptive recourse
after committing crimes.
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given valerie bestin's
lack of relapse after d.u.i.
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with injury incident,
it only made sense
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that she would follow
the pattern,
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so i called treatment facilities
and shelters
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in surrounding areas
until i found the right place.so you... guessed.
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ah, it's more of
a scientific hypothesis, really.
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just keep us in the loop.noted.
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need to head back and code these
interviews. if you'll excuse us.
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you have to admit,
she really knows her stuff.
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i'm admitting nothing.
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she's huffing and puffing.
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wait. that rhymes.
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like i told dr. montague,
i didn't know valerie very well.
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but she would often bring
donations with her.
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desperately needed.
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ah, we're stretched
pretty thin around here,
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so our focus
is on our guests.
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uh, but paula had more contact
with her than i did.
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valerie was a saint.
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she never talked down
to nobody.
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always makin' sure
we was eatin' better,
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drinkin' less.
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oh, when marty died,
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she was, like... cryin'.
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she really cared.
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marty?
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a former guest. he passed away
here a couple weeks ago.
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a bad case of flu
swept through here.
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lot of people got sick,
and poor marty's system just--
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just couldn't handle it,
you know?
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any other questions, jane?
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uh, yes, um, i do have
one more question...
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yeah.in fact.
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do either of you recall
whether valerie was a-a knitter?
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knitting.thank you for your time.
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all right. thank you.
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just got back
the forensics report.
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both victims were bludgeoned
with the same object.
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identical wood fibers were
found in both their wounds.
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sounds like the caveman.i don't think he has the patent
on killing with a 2x4.
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you know, we should think about
a press response to this.
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being ahead of media speculation
makes us look less reactive.
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well, hang on. we're not even
sure it's the caveman.
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we don't need to speak
to the press just yet.i disagree.
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but i hear you...
and i understand your concerns.
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yes, you hear me,
most certainly.
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but i doubt very much
you understand my concerns.
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if you're so sure
that it's not the caveman,
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why are you reading up
on his file?
243
00:10:39,116 --> 00:10:42,685
i like to read. i have insomnia.
i don't like warm milk.
244
00:10:42,685 --> 00:10:44,687
i'm lactose-intolerant.
i could go on.
245
00:10:44,687 --> 00:10:46,689
did you know
that habitual mockery
246
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is a strong indicator
of depression?
247
00:10:48,996 --> 00:10:53,391
no. but thank you
for enlightening me.
248
00:10:55,567 --> 00:10:58,266
um, that was inappropriate.
249
00:10:58,266 --> 00:11:00,442
i apologize.
250
00:11:08,580 --> 00:11:10,582
one of these vans
251
00:11:10,582 --> 00:11:13,194
has to have been
at the salvage area.
252
00:11:13,194 --> 00:11:14,543
how many left?
253
00:11:14,543 --> 00:11:16,197
nine.
254
00:11:16,197 --> 00:11:19,330
oh, we already hit eight.
god, my feet hurt.
255
00:11:19,330 --> 00:11:22,029
your feet hurt?
256
00:11:22,029 --> 00:11:24,379
is there some way
we can work this out?
257
00:11:24,379 --> 00:11:28,470
what?i have to spell it out?
okay, look, i lied.
258
00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:30,777
i lied to the p.s.u.
to protect my dad,
259
00:11:30,777 --> 00:11:33,910
and you had to lie to cover me,
and i owe you big-time.
260
00:11:33,910 --> 00:11:36,043
look, i get that you're mad
at me, and i'm sorry.
261
00:11:36,043 --> 00:11:39,437
but please,
can we move past this?
262
00:11:39,437 --> 00:11:42,353
okay.okay? what, like--like,
we'reokay, okay?
263
00:11:45,269 --> 00:11:47,445
police!
264
00:11:47,445 --> 00:11:49,447
hey, what the hell, man?
265
00:11:49,447 --> 00:11:52,450
cbi. we need to ask you
a couple questions.
266
00:11:52,450 --> 00:11:54,714
you the owner of this van?yeah.
267
00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:58,152
you get your transmission
fixed this morning?yeah. why?
268
00:11:58,152 --> 00:12:00,458
ma'am, where'd you get
that bracelet?
269
00:12:00,458 --> 00:12:03,548
at the none-of-your-damn-
business store.
270
00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:08,902
so did your friend yasmeen
in the back of the van
271
00:12:08,902 --> 00:12:11,295
know where this bracelet
came from?
272
00:12:11,295 --> 00:12:14,385
oh, that wasn't a friend.
that was just a little dinner.it's weird that
273
00:12:14,385 --> 00:12:17,388
your dinner's name was yasmeen,
but this bracelet you gave her
274
00:12:17,388 --> 00:12:20,304
has the initials "f.t."
engraved on it.imagine that.
275
00:12:20,304 --> 00:12:22,742
it's too bad you forgot
the matching earrings
276
00:12:22,742 --> 00:12:25,179
off the woman you killed.i didn't kill anybody.
277
00:12:25,179 --> 00:12:29,226
then how'd you end up
with a dead woman's bracelet?
278
00:12:29,226 --> 00:12:32,664
you know, decomposing bodies can
still leave a lot of evidence?
279
00:12:32,664 --> 00:12:35,667
only a matter of time
before they match up the d.n.a.
280
00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:37,800
left on this bracelet
to her body.
281
00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,761
look... sometimes
i haul junk to that yard.
282
00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:44,111
i was there looking around
for whatever.
283
00:12:44,111 --> 00:12:47,549
there she was,
already dead.
284
00:12:47,549 --> 00:12:50,204
the bracelet wasn't
doing her any good.
285
00:12:51,858 --> 00:12:53,816
too much of a wuss
to be a killer.
286
00:12:53,816 --> 00:12:57,559
lacking in grandiosity,
only one divorce,
287
00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,214
an undercurrent of rage
would normally express itself
288
00:13:00,214 --> 00:13:02,216
at least in a driving record.
289
00:13:02,216 --> 00:13:04,871
i'm not seeing a propensity
for violence here.
290
00:13:04,871 --> 00:13:08,396
so you agree with me?not our killer.
291
00:13:08,396 --> 00:13:10,180
hmm.
292
00:13:10,180 --> 00:13:12,052
thank you.
293
00:13:12,052 --> 00:13:15,316
the caveman was never known to
steal jewelry off his victims,
294
00:13:15,316 --> 00:13:17,318
so that clears up
that anomaly.
295
00:13:17,318 --> 00:13:18,972
life's just one
296
00:13:18,972 --> 00:13:21,322
giant mathematical equation
for you, isn't it?
297
00:13:21,322 --> 00:13:23,324
i would like that.
i confess.
298
00:13:23,324 --> 00:13:24,934
this isn't the caveman.
299
00:13:24,934 --> 00:13:26,327
so you say.
300
00:13:26,327 --> 00:13:29,112
i got $1 that says
the same thing.
301
00:13:29,112 --> 00:13:32,333
i have no objection
to gambling. you're on.
302
00:13:32,333 --> 00:13:33,987
hmm.
303
00:13:35,684 --> 00:13:37,077
oh, someone's popular.
304
00:13:37,077 --> 00:13:39,296
hardly.
305
00:13:39,296 --> 00:13:40,907
what is it?
306
00:13:42,473 --> 00:13:44,824
ohh.looks like a kidney.
307
00:13:44,824 --> 00:13:48,044
there's a poem on the other side
of that paper, i suspect?
308
00:13:48,044 --> 00:13:50,133
you've seen this before?
309
00:13:50,133 --> 00:13:52,222
"the ladies are dead.
i crushed their heads.
310
00:13:52,222 --> 00:13:54,877
and after the lash,
they go into the trash."
311
00:13:54,877 --> 00:13:56,574
it's from the caveman.
312
00:13:56,574 --> 00:13:58,968
poetry week. you could've
done better than that.
313
00:13:58,968 --> 00:14:01,318
i believe we had a wager.
314
00:14:01,318 --> 00:14:02,972
ah. yeah.
315
00:14:04,278 --> 00:14:05,801
thank you.
316
00:14:11,459 --> 00:14:13,461
from an individual
calling himself "the caveman,"
317
00:14:13,461 --> 00:14:15,419
who claims responsibility
for the murder
318
00:14:15,419 --> 00:14:17,378
of two local area women...
319
00:14:17,378 --> 00:14:18,553
hey.
320
00:14:18,553 --> 00:14:20,555
ms. montague in her element.
321
00:14:20,555 --> 00:14:22,557
it's not often you see
a profiler
322
00:14:22,557 --> 00:14:24,515
basking in the spotlight.
323
00:14:24,515 --> 00:14:27,127
well, montague says that
a killer like the caveman
324
00:14:27,127 --> 00:14:29,172
craves acknowledgment
for his crimes.
325
00:14:29,172 --> 00:14:31,174
giving him some attention
could keep him
326
00:14:31,174 --> 00:14:32,828
from taking another victim
early.
327
00:14:32,828 --> 00:14:34,786
you like montague,
don't you?
328
00:14:34,786 --> 00:14:37,093
no. i mean, i... don't
dislikeher.
329
00:14:37,093 --> 00:14:38,486
what's to dislike?
330
00:14:38,486 --> 00:14:40,662
right. still working on, uh,
331
00:14:40,662 --> 00:14:42,664
where the caveman
sent the package from,
332
00:14:42,664 --> 00:14:44,753
but we got an i.d.
on the other victim.
333
00:14:44,753 --> 00:14:46,407
excellent.fernanda talan.
334
00:14:46,407 --> 00:14:48,409
engraved initials on the back
of her stolen bracelet
335
00:14:48,409 --> 00:14:50,411
helped make a positive match.
336
00:14:50,411 --> 00:14:52,717
her cousins reported her missing about a week ago.
337
00:14:52,717 --> 00:14:55,285
she worked for them at a bottling plant.
338
00:14:58,549 --> 00:15:00,551
ah. still wearing that brooch,
i see,
339
00:15:00,551 --> 00:15:02,945
but where's the power suit?
340
00:15:02,945 --> 00:15:04,947
well, wearing a palette
of neutral tones
341
00:15:04,947 --> 00:15:06,993
is less threatening
when interviewing people.
342
00:15:06,993 --> 00:15:09,299
hi.hey, boss.
343
00:15:09,299 --> 00:15:11,301
i just got valerie bestin's
phone records.
344
00:15:11,301 --> 00:15:13,303
lately she's been getting
a lot of calls
345
00:15:13,303 --> 00:15:15,610
from donovan treadlow,
the homeless shelter director.
346
00:15:15,610 --> 00:15:18,047
he said he barely knew her.
347
00:15:18,047 --> 00:15:19,701
well, he lied.
348
00:15:19,701 --> 00:15:22,312
take cho. get the story.
349
00:15:22,312 --> 00:15:24,619
fernanda was our cousin
from my mother's family.
350
00:15:24,619 --> 00:15:26,447
she came to us
351
00:15:26,447 --> 00:15:28,579
to get away
from the violence in oakland.
352
00:15:28,579 --> 00:15:32,409
this wasn't supposed
to happen to her.
353
00:15:32,409 --> 00:15:36,022
her brother was killed
just last year, and now this?
354
00:15:36,022 --> 00:15:39,721
she was going to make it.
355
00:15:39,721 --> 00:15:41,505
tranquila,nilda.
356
00:15:41,505 --> 00:15:43,899
when was the last time
you saw fernanda?
357
00:15:43,899 --> 00:15:46,815
about a week ago.
she took the bus after work
358
00:15:46,815 --> 00:15:49,470
and just vanished. we were
worried immediately when
359
00:15:49,470 --> 00:15:53,691
she didn't show up the next day
because she never missed work.where did she work?
360
00:15:53,691 --> 00:15:55,519
on the line.in there?
361
00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:58,435
have you see valerie bestin
around your neighborhood?
362
00:15:58,435 --> 00:16:00,176
no.
363
00:16:00,176 --> 00:16:03,179
we only heard about her
through the news and you all.
364
00:16:03,179 --> 00:16:06,052
i like the packaging.
what flavor is that?
365
00:16:06,052 --> 00:16:09,359
um... probably
our orange cream sodas,
366
00:16:09,359 --> 00:16:10,621
right, esther?
367
00:16:10,621 --> 00:16:13,537
yes. we make natural sodas.
368
00:16:13,537 --> 00:16:15,539
no corn syrup,
no artificial flavors.
369
00:16:15,539 --> 00:16:18,412
we employ locals,
pay them right.
370
00:16:18,412 --> 00:16:21,241
people used to shake their heads
when we first started,
371
00:16:21,241 --> 00:16:24,026
but now they're getting it.
372
00:16:24,026 --> 00:16:26,637
fernanda had made
a huge change here.
373
00:16:26,637 --> 00:16:29,031
she wanted to be a nurse
and...
374
00:16:29,031 --> 00:16:32,600
it's just all so sad.
375
00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,560
is this a boy or girl?
i can't really see. it's a boy.
376
00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,519
a boy lizard.
what's his name?
377
00:16:38,519 --> 00:16:39,520
chuy.
378
00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,043
hey, chuy.
379
00:16:41,043 --> 00:16:42,914
ms. montague,
you're awfully quiet.
380
00:16:42,914 --> 00:16:45,526
i'm sure you have
some questions.
381
00:16:45,526 --> 00:16:47,876
ms. montague here--
she's, uh, super, super clever.
382
00:16:47,876 --> 00:16:51,010
she's a scientist.thank you, mr. jane.
383
00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:52,489
oh, pleasure.
384
00:16:52,489 --> 00:16:54,752
did fernanda ever
abuse alcohol?
385
00:16:54,752 --> 00:16:56,319
no.
386
00:16:56,319 --> 00:16:58,539
what about illegal
or controlled substances?
387
00:16:58,539 --> 00:17:00,889
what are you trying to say,
388
00:17:00,889 --> 00:17:02,978
that fernanda got mixed up
in drugs?
389
00:17:02,978 --> 00:17:06,155
i'm looking into traits
and habits which might give
390
00:17:06,155 --> 00:17:09,158
some insight into why
she was chosen by the caveman.
391
00:17:09,158 --> 00:17:11,508
finding out why fernanda's
to blame for getting murdered?
392
00:17:11,508 --> 00:17:14,424
what kind of quack are you?
393
00:17:14,424 --> 00:17:17,166
i'm sure that's not what
dr. montague meant.
394
00:17:17,166 --> 00:17:19,386
uh, it appears that
you've got this covered,
395
00:17:19,386 --> 00:17:22,345
so i'm just going to, uh,
go inside and take a look.
396
00:17:22,345 --> 00:17:24,391
ma'am, i did not mean
to offend.
397
00:17:24,391 --> 00:17:26,610
if you let me explain
my procedure to you...
398
00:17:35,793 --> 00:17:38,448
fernanda was a sweetheart,
hard worker,
399
00:17:38,448 --> 00:17:41,277
had gotten pretty sick
a couple of weeks back,
400
00:17:41,277 --> 00:17:44,324
but there she was,
on the job.
401
00:17:44,324 --> 00:17:45,499
sick how?
402
00:17:45,499 --> 00:17:46,848
stomach bug, something.
403
00:17:46,848 --> 00:17:49,068
dedicated.
404
00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:50,765
absolutely.
405
00:17:50,765 --> 00:17:54,073
shy at first, but then
she really got into it,
406
00:17:54,073 --> 00:17:56,031
asking how we did things,
you know,
407
00:17:56,031 --> 00:17:58,642
just learning the process.
408
00:17:58,642 --> 00:18:01,341
can i, um, try
one of these sodas?
409
00:18:01,341 --> 00:18:03,734
absolutely.
410
00:18:05,606 --> 00:18:08,043
cheers.
411
00:18:08,043 --> 00:18:09,436
mmm!
412
00:18:09,436 --> 00:18:11,568
yeah, that's good.
413
00:18:11,568 --> 00:18:14,658
what's, uh, what's happening
tomorrow night?
414
00:18:14,658 --> 00:18:16,660
they're having
a candlelight vigil
415
00:18:16,660 --> 00:18:18,271
for fernanda.
416
00:18:18,271 --> 00:18:20,621
mm.
417
00:18:20,621 --> 00:18:23,276
is the helios street line
difficult to get to?
418
00:18:23,276 --> 00:18:25,408
no. bus stop
is right out front.
419
00:18:31,022 --> 00:18:32,633
hey!
420
00:18:32,633 --> 00:18:35,244
hey, uh, lisbon's just
finishing up in there.
421
00:18:35,244 --> 00:18:36,637
won't be a moment.
422
00:18:36,637 --> 00:18:38,508
what'd you find out?
423
00:18:38,508 --> 00:18:41,468
various things.
all data is useful data.
424
00:18:41,468 --> 00:18:42,817
so nothing then?
425
00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:44,514
and you?
426
00:18:44,514 --> 00:18:48,475
well, i found out how
our two victims were connected.
427
00:18:48,475 --> 00:18:49,606
how?
428
00:18:49,606 --> 00:18:51,608
get on the bus.
i'll show you.
429
00:18:51,608 --> 00:18:53,610
wait. but my car is--
430
00:18:53,610 --> 00:18:56,222
nah, just get on the bus.
come on.
431
00:19:00,922 --> 00:19:03,185
you had
a late night conversation
432
00:19:03,185 --> 00:19:05,579
with valerie bestin
the day before she died.
433
00:19:05,579 --> 00:19:08,538
you say you hardly knew her,
and there you are
434
00:19:08,538 --> 00:19:11,454
calling her at midnight.
why'd you lie?
435
00:19:11,454 --> 00:19:14,109
how it looks is bad,
436
00:19:14,109 --> 00:19:16,067
but it was shelter business.
437
00:19:16,067 --> 00:19:17,852
your wife can confirm that.
438
00:19:17,852 --> 00:19:19,462
that's not necessary.
439
00:19:19,462 --> 00:19:22,161
then tell us
about those calls.
440
00:19:22,161 --> 00:19:24,511
valerie was always
thinking she saw me
441
00:19:24,511 --> 00:19:27,470
being too friendly
with our female guests.
442
00:19:27,470 --> 00:19:29,429
what didshe see?
443
00:19:29,429 --> 00:19:31,692
me comforting them.
444
00:19:31,692 --> 00:19:34,347
never discount the power
of healing touch.
445
00:19:34,347 --> 00:19:37,698
so how often are you healing
the homeless women around here?
446
00:19:37,698 --> 00:19:41,484
don't make it sound so sordid.if there were nothing wrong,
447
00:19:41,484 --> 00:19:44,531
your wife would be
standing here.look... valerie kept yammering
448
00:19:44,531 --> 00:19:47,490
about how she was gonna tell
my wife if i didn't.
449
00:19:47,490 --> 00:19:49,492
so i was trying to persuade her
450
00:19:49,492 --> 00:19:51,494
to let me handle it
in my own way.
451
00:19:51,494 --> 00:19:53,496
we've looked into you,
mr. treadlow.
452
00:19:53,496 --> 00:19:56,195
you and your wife started
running this shelter
453
00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:57,587
nine months ago?
454
00:19:57,587 --> 00:20:00,286
yes, when we moved to the area.
455
00:20:00,286 --> 00:20:03,289
but this isn't the first time
you lived around here.
456
00:20:03,289 --> 00:20:07,206
you worked construction here.
ten years ago, right?i did.
457
00:20:07,206 --> 00:20:10,470
what are you getting at?well, you left town
in the middle of a housing boom,
458
00:20:10,470 --> 00:20:13,081
just after a serial killer
named "the caveman"
459
00:20:13,081 --> 00:20:15,997
stopped murdering
the local women.and now you're back,
and here's the caveman again.
460
00:20:15,997 --> 00:20:17,868
crazy, right?
461
00:20:17,868 --> 00:20:19,348
come on.
462
00:20:19,348 --> 00:20:21,655
you need to come
with us.
463
00:20:21,655 --> 00:20:23,613
please.
464
00:20:33,884 --> 00:20:38,324
now that, uh... brooch
that you wear all the time--
465
00:20:38,324 --> 00:20:41,892
does it carry any special
meaning or significance?
466
00:20:41,892 --> 00:20:43,198
no.no?
467
00:20:43,198 --> 00:20:45,331
i only own one piece
of jewelry.
468
00:20:45,331 --> 00:20:47,289
saves time
and mental energy.
469
00:20:47,289 --> 00:20:50,379
that's very efficient.
470
00:20:50,379 --> 00:20:52,642
lucky it looks
very good on you.
471
00:20:52,642 --> 00:20:54,601
thank you.
472
00:21:02,130 --> 00:21:03,784
that's agile turtle.
473
00:21:03,784 --> 00:21:06,395
so the office where
valerie bestin worked
474
00:21:06,395 --> 00:21:08,745
is on the same bus route
as the factory
475
00:21:08,745 --> 00:21:10,834
where fernanda talan worked.
476
00:21:10,834 --> 00:21:13,489
the homeless shelter's
on the same line, too.
477
00:21:13,489 --> 00:21:17,319
all right, that's--that's
a very suggestive link, but--
478
00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:19,713
lisbon? yes, i ditched you.
uh, i must confess.
479
00:21:19,713 --> 00:21:23,499
but look at the bright side.
i left you with a car this time.
480
00:21:23,499 --> 00:21:26,067
there's no need
to be so grumpy. it's okay.
481
00:21:26,067 --> 00:21:27,503
i call bearing news.
482
00:21:27,503 --> 00:21:30,593
our victims met
on the helios line.
483
00:21:30,593 --> 00:21:32,508
it's a bus route.
484
00:21:32,508 --> 00:21:34,162
a bus.
485
00:21:34,162 --> 00:21:36,556
public transportation.
yes.
486
00:21:36,556 --> 00:21:39,820
and i would bet that
the killer met the victims
487
00:21:39,820 --> 00:21:42,431
on this same bus.
488
00:21:42,431 --> 00:21:44,477
mm-hmm.
489
00:21:44,477 --> 00:21:47,436
well...
it's always a pleasure.
490
00:21:47,436 --> 00:21:49,482
okay. bye-bye.
491
00:21:49,482 --> 00:21:51,005
pure surmise.
492
00:21:51,005 --> 00:21:52,615
yes.
493
00:21:52,615 --> 00:21:55,531
pure.
494
00:21:55,531 --> 00:21:59,535
anything on the jane bus angle?i found out valerie bestin
barely used her car
495
00:21:59,535 --> 00:22:01,885
even though she got
her license back a year ago.
496
00:22:01,885 --> 00:22:04,540
she mainly took the bus,
just like fernanda.
497
00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:07,326
cho, i thought
you were with treadlow.we're letting him think a while.
498
00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:09,502
i'm working
with the d.a.'s office
499
00:22:09,502 --> 00:22:13,027
to get all the personnel files
released by the bus company.van pelt?
500
00:22:13,027 --> 00:22:15,421
i'm running filters on all
the riders with bus passes
501
00:22:15,421 --> 00:22:18,032
to see if anything flags.
nothing as of yet.
502
00:22:18,032 --> 00:22:21,252
okay, and when you're done
with that, find my old couch.
503
00:22:48,454 --> 00:22:51,457
i don't recall there being
a strong correlation
504
00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:54,460
between the victims and the use
of public transportation.
505
00:22:54,460 --> 00:22:57,376
the caveman's adapting.
i'll need to update my model.
506
00:22:57,376 --> 00:22:59,378
ms. montague, just--doctor. dr.montague.
507
00:22:59,378 --> 00:23:01,336
dr. ms. montague.just doctor.
508
00:23:01,336 --> 00:23:02,511
doctor?yes.
509
00:23:02,511 --> 00:23:04,078
montague.mm-hmm.
510
00:23:04,078 --> 00:23:06,080
turn the super computer off.
511
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,082
sit back, relax,
and enjoy the ride...
512
00:23:08,082 --> 00:23:10,084
and the company,
if possible.
513
00:23:10,084 --> 00:23:12,086
mr.jane.yes. got it in one.
514
00:23:12,086 --> 00:23:14,088
yes. on a notion...mm-hmm.
515
00:23:14,088 --> 00:23:17,265
you have us sitting on a bus
because our victims
516
00:23:17,265 --> 00:23:19,833
mighthave been on the bus
at the same time?
517
00:23:19,833 --> 00:23:21,791
this is... messy.
518
00:23:21,791 --> 00:23:25,795
can i ask you a question
as professionals?
519
00:23:25,795 --> 00:23:28,450
two professionals--
peers, if you will.
520
00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:30,800
why can't a notion,
a thought, or an idea
521
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,802
just hang out there
for a moment?
522
00:23:32,802 --> 00:23:35,065
just hang.
523
00:23:35,065 --> 00:23:37,067
because life is order
and sequence.
524
00:23:37,067 --> 00:23:38,460
death is disorder, entropy.
525
00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:40,419
mm.
526
00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:42,464
did you know that california
527
00:23:42,464 --> 00:23:45,511
leads the number of
serial killers in the nation?
528
00:23:45,511 --> 00:23:48,514
job security, at least.
excuse me.
529
00:23:48,514 --> 00:23:50,907
pardon me, ma'am.
uh, i couldn't help but notice
530
00:23:50,907 --> 00:23:53,562
the beautiful detail work
in this scarf.
531
00:23:53,562 --> 00:23:56,478
did you knit this yourself?yes, i did.
532
00:23:56,478 --> 00:23:58,524
that's very nice.
you know, you could sell these.
533
00:23:58,524 --> 00:24:01,135
do you--do you--have you
thought of selling these?
534
00:24:01,135 --> 00:24:02,963
yeah. you--you want to look?
535
00:24:02,963 --> 00:24:05,879
if you don't mind.
they're very nice.
536
00:24:05,879 --> 00:24:08,795
she's got some great stuff here.
beautiful.
537
00:24:08,795 --> 00:24:11,450
oh, this is beautiful.
can i just try this
538
00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:14,017
on my... lady friend?
539
00:24:14,017 --> 00:24:16,846
look at this. look at that.
it's a very similar style...
540
00:24:16,846 --> 00:24:18,021
stop.
541
00:24:18,021 --> 00:24:20,546
to the one
that fernanda was wearing,
542
00:24:20,546 --> 00:24:23,592
and it looks just terrific
with her ensemble, no? yes.
543
00:24:23,592 --> 00:24:28,249
excuse me, ma'am. hello.
we're investigating the murder--
544
00:24:28,249 --> 00:24:30,425
i'm so sorry. no understand.
545
00:24:30,425 --> 00:24:32,906
if i could just ask you--no understand.
546
00:24:32,906 --> 00:24:35,517
but if you could just wait
a second, i...
547
00:24:35,517 --> 00:24:36,910
excellent people skills.
548
00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:39,434
that's sarcasm.
549
00:24:39,434 --> 00:24:41,480
uh-huh.
550
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,395
we can work on that.
551
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:48,225
hey.
552
00:24:48,225 --> 00:24:50,619
hey. i was going
through the personnel files
553
00:24:50,619 --> 00:24:53,840
for the bus drivers,
and something flagged.
554
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,451
a bus driver--
his name is ralph mercer.
555
00:24:56,451 --> 00:24:58,453
he's only been
with the bus company
556
00:24:58,453 --> 00:25:00,629
for the last six months.so?
557
00:25:00,629 --> 00:25:02,588
according to
his social security number,
558
00:25:02,588 --> 00:25:04,894
he's been dead 15 years.
559
00:25:04,894 --> 00:25:08,245
so i did a little more digging,
and fingerprint records say
560
00:25:08,245 --> 00:25:10,378
mercer is actually
arthur coffey.
561
00:25:10,378 --> 00:25:13,686
not a nice guy--long sheet,
including aggravated rape
562
00:25:13,686 --> 00:25:15,775
and assault
with a deadly weapon.
563
00:25:15,775 --> 00:25:19,039
he drives the same route
our victims rode?afternoon and evening shifts.
564
00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:22,085
great. where is he now?got his route schedule
from his boss.
565
00:25:22,085 --> 00:25:23,739
he's on the road now.
566
00:25:27,221 --> 00:25:29,266
hello, everybody. i'm patrick.
567
00:25:29,266 --> 00:25:31,268
uh, i'm sure you've all heard
568
00:25:31,268 --> 00:25:34,750
about the two local women
found murdered. yes?
569
00:25:34,750 --> 00:25:36,404
yes.
570
00:25:36,404 --> 00:25:38,406
fernanda talan
and valerie bestin--
571
00:25:38,406 --> 00:25:40,408
they rode this bus every day.
572
00:25:40,408 --> 00:25:43,672
yes, they did, and we--
when i say "we,"
573
00:25:43,672 --> 00:25:47,110
i include
my charming associate,
574
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:48,590
dr. montague.
575
00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:51,375
we wanna know what you know
about them...
576
00:25:51,375 --> 00:25:53,290
and any other shady people
577
00:25:53,290 --> 00:25:56,467
that you may have noticed
on the bus.
578
00:25:56,467 --> 00:25:58,469
any information
may be important.
579
00:25:58,469 --> 00:26:03,953
any littlepiece
of information may...
580
00:26:03,953 --> 00:26:06,739
be important.
581
00:26:08,741 --> 00:26:11,178
anything at all?
582
00:26:11,178 --> 00:26:14,573
any detail?
583
00:26:14,573 --> 00:26:16,096
okay. thank you.
584
00:26:22,972 --> 00:26:25,279
excellent people skills.
585
00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:29,152
ah, sarcasm. that's very good.
you're learning.
586
00:26:29,152 --> 00:26:32,068
but, uh, i, in fact,
got an excellent response.
587
00:26:32,068 --> 00:26:34,418
i'm told that the driver
is a little shady.
588
00:26:34,418 --> 00:26:36,029
really?
589
00:26:36,029 --> 00:26:37,465
yes, really.
590
00:26:43,079 --> 00:26:44,341
how did you...
591
00:26:57,398 --> 00:26:59,400
why are you guys
following me?
592
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,445
uh, we'd like to ask you
some questions.
593
00:27:01,445 --> 00:27:03,360
are you cops, or...
594
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,406
no, we're consultants
with law enforcement.
595
00:27:05,406 --> 00:27:08,670
uh-huh.actually, no,
she's with law enforcement.
596
00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:10,716
i'm just an innocent bystander.
597
00:27:10,716 --> 00:27:13,457
she lured me
into this whole mess.he's getting away.
598
00:27:13,457 --> 00:27:15,503
do, uh, do something.that's good. like what?
what am i gonna do?
599
00:27:16,765 --> 00:27:18,593
drop the weapon!
600
00:27:18,593 --> 00:27:20,551
facedown to the ground now!
601
00:27:22,336 --> 00:27:24,294
that's nice timing.
602
00:27:24,294 --> 00:27:28,342
darn! with him in the back,
there won't be room for you two.
603
00:27:28,342 --> 00:27:31,345
well, how are we gonna get back?take the bus.
604
00:27:34,957 --> 00:27:37,960
hewas our driver.
605
00:27:42,312 --> 00:27:44,358
carjacking, extortion,
rape.
606
00:27:44,358 --> 00:27:46,665
now that we've found
30 bindles on you,
607
00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:50,277
we can add dealing as well.i want to straighten out,
okay?
608
00:27:50,277 --> 00:27:52,279
i got a disease...
called addiction.
609
00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:55,804
that's all it is--
the dealing.
610
00:27:55,804 --> 00:27:57,763
i'm just trying to,
you know,
611
00:27:57,763 --> 00:27:59,852
maintain.
612
00:27:59,852 --> 00:28:02,985
i'm a good person
that made some wrong choices.
613
00:28:02,985 --> 00:28:06,293
are you the firstborn
in your family, mr. coffey?
614
00:28:06,293 --> 00:28:07,947
yeah.
615
00:28:07,947 --> 00:28:10,427
ever heard of the caveman?
616
00:28:10,427 --> 00:28:12,429
sure. from the... tv news.
617
00:28:12,429 --> 00:28:13,996
you know these women?
618
00:28:13,996 --> 00:28:16,390
yeah.
619
00:28:16,390 --> 00:28:18,348
they rode the bus.
620
00:28:18,348 --> 00:28:20,350
they were killed
by the caveman.
621
00:28:20,350 --> 00:28:23,919
i mean, it was just on tv.
622
00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:26,661
in fact, yeah, it was you
that was on tv,
623
00:28:26,661 --> 00:28:28,532
said it was the caveman,
right?
624
00:28:28,532 --> 00:28:29,838
yeah.
625
00:28:29,838 --> 00:28:32,798
how many sexual partners
have you had?
626
00:28:32,798 --> 00:28:37,716
wow. you like
to cut to the chase.
627
00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:40,327
um... like 100, 150.
628
00:28:40,327 --> 00:28:42,416
women? men?
629
00:28:42,416 --> 00:28:45,332
hello.women.
what is your point here?
630
00:28:45,332 --> 00:28:47,638
we need to know whether
you killed these women
631
00:28:47,638 --> 00:28:50,337
because they found out
about your side business
632
00:28:50,337 --> 00:28:52,905
or because
you're the caveman.
633
00:28:52,905 --> 00:28:54,994
hey. no. you think
i'm the caveman?
634
00:28:54,994 --> 00:28:57,344
no, no. you got me
all wrong here.
635
00:28:57,344 --> 00:29:01,261
i deal a little blow, okay?
i mean, i don't do murders.
636
00:29:04,351 --> 00:29:06,309
i think i'll take
a lawyer now.
637
00:29:06,309 --> 00:29:08,703
meh.
638
00:29:08,703 --> 00:29:10,661
well, he's the only suspect
we have
639
00:29:10,661 --> 00:29:12,663
with a direct link
to both victims.
640
00:29:12,663 --> 00:29:16,842
yes, it's all very compelling,
but i'm not convinced.
641
00:29:16,842 --> 00:29:18,757
and, yes, you should.
642
00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:20,671
should what?
643
00:29:20,671 --> 00:29:22,412
oh, you know what.
644
00:29:22,412 --> 00:29:24,371
no.oh, yes, you do.
645
00:29:24,371 --> 00:29:25,764
no, i don't.
646
00:29:25,764 --> 00:29:27,374
yes, you do.
647
00:29:31,247 --> 00:29:34,120
that bus driver's an ass,
but he isn't the caveman.
648
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,165
i'm thinking the same thing.
649
00:29:36,165 --> 00:29:38,559
his shifts at work don't
match up with our timeline.
650
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:41,605
and without any hard evidence,
i had to cut treadlow loose,
651
00:29:41,605 --> 00:29:45,914
so we have to start
from scratch. damn it to hell!oh, language. please.
652
00:29:45,914 --> 00:29:48,525
bertram is on hightower's back.
she's on mine.
653
00:29:48,525 --> 00:29:50,876
it's all, "catch the caveman,
catch the caveman."
654
00:29:50,876 --> 00:29:53,052
i hate serial killers.
655
00:29:53,052 --> 00:29:56,446
caveman didn't kill
fernanda and valerie. trust me.
656
00:29:56,446 --> 00:29:58,797
well, how can you be
so sure?
657
00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:01,800
because i wrote
the letter from the caveman.
658
00:30:08,719 --> 00:30:12,723
what did you just say?i wrote the letter
from the caveman.
659
00:30:12,723 --> 00:30:15,422
yeah, i heard you
the first time.why'd you ask me
to say it again?
660
00:30:15,422 --> 00:30:17,119
it was a rhetorical question!
661
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:19,165
i just wanted
to stir things up,
662
00:30:19,165 --> 00:30:21,471
just, you know, give montague
a little prod.i get it. she irks you.
663
00:30:21,471 --> 00:30:23,778
no, she doesn't irk me.
i like her.
664
00:30:23,778 --> 00:30:26,737
in fact, she amuses me.yeah, and in the meantime,
everybody is freaking out
665
00:30:26,737 --> 00:30:30,002
because they think there's
a serial killer on the loose.
666
00:30:30,002 --> 00:30:32,569
well, there is that,
but... that was her story.
667
00:30:32,569 --> 00:30:34,789
she made that up, not me.
668
00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:37,531
undoing this
is gonna be a nightmare.
669
00:30:37,531 --> 00:30:40,273
the press is gonna have
a field day.
670
00:30:40,273 --> 00:30:43,058
i have to tell the families.isn't there a candlelight vigil
somewhere this evening?
671
00:30:43,058 --> 00:30:44,930
well, i think so.
672
00:30:44,930 --> 00:30:48,542
it's all gonna work out
just fine.
673
00:30:48,542 --> 00:30:50,805
i have... no doubt
in my mind.
674
00:30:57,333 --> 00:30:58,595
dr. montague.
675
00:30:58,595 --> 00:31:00,206
agent rigsby.
676
00:31:02,121 --> 00:31:05,167
interesting line of questioning
you had going in interrogation.
677
00:31:05,167 --> 00:31:07,517
oh, well, yes, as you know,
678
00:31:07,517 --> 00:31:09,955
sexual promiscuity
and risky behavior
679
00:31:09,955 --> 00:31:12,783
are reliable indicators
in psychopathy.uh, yes, you can learn a lot
about a person
680
00:31:12,783 --> 00:31:14,176
from their sexual history.
681
00:31:14,176 --> 00:31:16,222
i remember there was
this one time
682
00:31:16,222 --> 00:31:18,877
we had this guy in custody,
and he had a...
683
00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:20,530
it was a...
684
00:31:20,530 --> 00:31:24,273
it's an inappropriate story,
sexual history-wise.
685
00:31:25,492 --> 00:31:28,843
this has been, uh, nice.
686
00:31:28,843 --> 00:31:31,454
what has been nice?talking with you.
687
00:31:31,454 --> 00:31:33,326
oh, well. you're welcome.
688
00:31:33,326 --> 00:31:34,675
agent rigsby.
689
00:31:34,675 --> 00:31:35,806
yes?
690
00:31:35,806 --> 00:31:36,938
your tea.
691
00:31:36,938 --> 00:31:40,159
yes. i...
692
00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:42,161
will take that to go.
693
00:31:43,553 --> 00:31:46,774
what, uh, agent rigsby
wanted to say...
694
00:31:46,774 --> 00:31:49,820
well, he--he wanted to ask you
out on a date tonight.
695
00:31:49,820 --> 00:31:53,737
oh. uh... uh...
696
00:31:53,737 --> 00:31:56,871
i was... going to go
to the candlelight vigil--
697
00:31:56,871 --> 00:31:59,482
oh, i got--see, i picked
that thing up. um...
698
00:32:01,832 --> 00:32:03,660
this is for you.
699
00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:05,836
rigsby picked it out.
700
00:32:05,836 --> 00:32:08,883
i didn't. i have no idea
what's in that box.you didn't...
701
00:32:08,883 --> 00:32:10,537
yes, he did.
702
00:32:10,537 --> 00:32:11,973
no, i didn't.
703
00:32:11,973 --> 00:32:13,627
um... um...
704
00:32:13,627 --> 00:32:15,368
wow.
705
00:32:17,065 --> 00:32:18,849
thanks for coming out.
706
00:32:18,849 --> 00:32:21,461
um, fernanda's family
was kind enough to include us
707
00:32:21,461 --> 00:32:23,245
in this vigil because
708
00:32:23,245 --> 00:32:26,205
we're all working
toward the same end.
709
00:32:26,205 --> 00:32:30,165
we need to speak up. we can't
let a killer like the caveman
710
00:32:30,165 --> 00:32:32,907
hold our community hostage.
711
00:32:32,907 --> 00:32:36,737
don't let fernanda and valerie
die in vain.
712
00:32:36,737 --> 00:32:40,349
uh, if you have something
to say, please come forward.
713
00:32:41,785 --> 00:32:43,744
good evening.
714
00:32:43,744 --> 00:32:45,659
uh, excuse me.
my name is patrick jane.
715
00:32:45,659 --> 00:32:48,705
uh, i offer my condolences.
716
00:32:48,705 --> 00:32:52,405
i'm a part of the team that will
bring this killer to justice.
717
00:32:52,405 --> 00:32:54,450
i do have some unfortunate news.
718
00:32:54,450 --> 00:32:57,062
we've just learned
that the letter we believed
719
00:32:57,062 --> 00:33:00,543
to be from the caveman is,
in fact, a very clever forgery.
720
00:33:00,543 --> 00:33:03,764
so what does that mean?bottom line--we're pretty sure
that the caveman
721
00:33:03,764 --> 00:33:06,332
didn't kill your loved ones.
722
00:33:06,332 --> 00:33:09,378
someone is using the caveman
as a foil.you all said it was him on tv.
723
00:33:09,378 --> 00:33:12,251
the profiler lady said
you were making good progress
724
00:33:12,251 --> 00:33:13,904
on the case.
725
00:33:13,904 --> 00:33:16,646
she made a mistake.
i'm sorry, but it happens.
726
00:33:16,646 --> 00:33:18,648
so do you know anything?
727
00:33:18,648 --> 00:33:21,651
again, i'd like to apologize
profusely for our error.
728
00:33:21,651 --> 00:33:26,743
uh... it appears that this,
uh, forger is, uh,
729
00:33:26,743 --> 00:33:28,876
one of unparalleled skill.aah!
730
00:33:28,876 --> 00:33:32,619
ohh!oh, my god. that's blood.
731
00:33:34,925 --> 00:33:38,538
ohh. what is that?
732
00:33:38,538 --> 00:33:40,801
the profiler lady
was wearing that.
733
00:33:40,801 --> 00:33:42,194
yes, she was.
734
00:33:44,935 --> 00:33:47,721
i'm not a specialist,
but that looks like a kidney.
735
00:33:47,721 --> 00:33:50,593
there's a note.
736
00:33:50,593 --> 00:33:51,942
"your profiler is dead.
737
00:33:51,942 --> 00:33:55,120
stupid copycat will join her
at midnight."
738
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,513
signed from the caveman.
739
00:33:57,513 --> 00:34:02,344
oh, no.
lisbon, where are you?
740
00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:04,303
i need your help.
741
00:34:08,524 --> 00:34:10,396
listen, thanks for tonight.
i had fun.
742
00:34:10,396 --> 00:34:11,919
so did i, wayne.
743
00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:13,921
um, i enjoyed
your funny stories immensely.
744
00:34:13,921 --> 00:34:15,923
good. and i enjoyed your,
uh...
745
00:34:15,923 --> 00:34:19,013
well, i learned a lot
about statistical analysis.
746
00:34:19,013 --> 00:34:20,971
i hope i didn't bore you.
747
00:34:20,971 --> 00:34:22,364
no, not at all.
748
00:34:22,364 --> 00:34:25,759
um, in fact, would you
like to go out again?
749
00:34:25,759 --> 00:34:27,456
i would.
750
00:34:27,456 --> 00:34:29,502
uh... i would. do...
751
00:34:29,502 --> 00:34:32,679
you are an attractive
and stable character.
752
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:34,507
thank you.
753
00:34:34,507 --> 00:34:36,900
but i don't need to conduct
an analysis
754
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:39,947
to see that you're still
in love with someone else.
755
00:34:39,947 --> 00:34:42,471
the probability of us having
a successful relationship
756
00:34:42,471 --> 00:34:44,995
is no more than 20%.
757
00:34:44,995 --> 00:34:46,432
20%?
758
00:34:46,432 --> 00:34:47,346
mm-hmm, tops.
759
00:34:49,348 --> 00:34:50,740
where is everybody?
760
00:34:50,740 --> 00:34:53,221
i thought we were
working the night shift.
761
00:34:53,221 --> 00:34:55,441
oh, hi. everybody's out
catching the killer.
762
00:34:55,441 --> 00:34:56,529
seriously?
763
00:34:56,529 --> 00:34:59,619
no, i'm joking.oh.
764
00:34:59,619 --> 00:35:02,709
that was sarcasm. uh,
they're out catching the killer.
765
00:35:07,235 --> 00:35:09,411
nilda,
will you hurry up?
766
00:35:09,411 --> 00:35:10,804
what about chuy?
767
00:35:10,804 --> 00:35:12,414
forget the lizard already!
768
00:35:12,414 --> 00:35:14,286
essential items only.
769
00:35:21,989 --> 00:35:23,947
¿qué es eso?
770
00:35:27,908 --> 00:35:30,040
it's the caveman.
771
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,696
this is all a big mistake.
we never meant to copy you!
772
00:35:33,696 --> 00:35:36,569
we just took the bodies to
the first place we thought of.
773
00:35:36,569 --> 00:35:39,398
nothing to do with you,
i swear.
774
00:35:39,398 --> 00:35:41,878
we had no idea!please don't do this!
775
00:35:47,971 --> 00:35:48,972
boo.
776
00:35:50,757 --> 00:35:54,021
i'm thinking this has to do
with your natural soda.
777
00:35:54,021 --> 00:35:56,806
something not so natural in it?well, that's no secret.
778
00:35:56,806 --> 00:36:00,114
a lot of foods require
additives to keep them fresh.
779
00:36:00,114 --> 00:36:02,116
fernanda was giving her friend,
valerie bestin,
780
00:36:02,116 --> 00:36:05,424
crates of soda to distribute
to the homeless, right?
781
00:36:05,424 --> 00:36:07,948
yes.
782
00:36:07,948 --> 00:36:10,951
then a man at the shelter,
martin brent, known as marty,
783
00:36:10,951 --> 00:36:13,388
died after drinking the soda,
right?
784
00:36:13,388 --> 00:36:16,609
i don't know any marty.sure you do.
785
00:36:16,609 --> 00:36:20,221
i'm only telling you this so you
know not to tell us stories.
786
00:36:20,221 --> 00:36:22,615
why would i lie about
knowing some homeless guy?
787
00:36:22,615 --> 00:36:24,660
the assumption
was that marty died
788
00:36:24,660 --> 00:36:27,663
because his system was too weak
to fight off the flu.
789
00:36:27,663 --> 00:36:31,014
but when fernanda got sick,
she started to do some digging.
790
00:36:31,014 --> 00:36:35,323
you can't tie any of that
to us.a simple blood test will show
just what additives
791
00:36:35,323 --> 00:36:37,282
were present in his system.
everyone at the shelter can
792
00:36:37,282 --> 00:36:38,848
confirm drinking the sodas.
793
00:36:38,848 --> 00:36:41,634
who gave them out
can be tested as well.
794
00:36:41,634 --> 00:36:47,466
esther said the soda was
losing too much flavor
795
00:36:47,466 --> 00:36:50,295
so we started using glycol
as a stabilizer.
796
00:36:50,295 --> 00:36:52,297
we got a bad batch.
797
00:36:52,297 --> 00:36:54,168
how bad?
798
00:36:54,168 --> 00:36:57,171
esther said you had to drink
a lot of it
799
00:36:57,171 --> 00:36:59,521
in order for there to be
any bad effects.
800
00:36:59,521 --> 00:37:01,523
most people just got
an upset stomach.
801
00:37:01,523 --> 00:37:03,917
it was only like
500 bottles.
802
00:37:03,917 --> 00:37:07,442
you knew you were endangering
the lives of your consumers.
803
00:37:07,442 --> 00:37:12,360
esther said pulling
the product was too expensive
804
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,189
and kept saying
it was no big deal.
805
00:37:15,189 --> 00:37:17,670
who drinks 12 bottles
in one go anyway?
806
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:21,674
right, and then
the homeless man, marty, died.
807
00:37:21,674 --> 00:37:24,633
fernanda made the connection,
started asking questions.
808
00:37:27,767 --> 00:37:30,378
fernanda wouldn't
let it go,
809
00:37:30,378 --> 00:37:33,338
said we had to issue
a massive recall.
810
00:37:33,338 --> 00:37:35,209
she'd tell if we didn't.
811
00:37:35,209 --> 00:37:37,603
and then you killed
your own cousin.
812
00:37:43,783 --> 00:37:46,089
yeah, we did.
813
00:37:49,441 --> 00:37:52,052
and then valerie showed up
a week later,
814
00:37:52,052 --> 00:37:54,359
and you knew
what you had to do.
815
00:37:56,535 --> 00:38:00,582
i told esther. that lady
didn't know anything.
816
00:38:00,582 --> 00:38:03,585
but she kept
saying someone like her
817
00:38:03,585 --> 00:38:07,589
wouldn't stop coming around
and asking questions.
818
00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:11,158
so she had to go.
819
00:38:12,768 --> 00:38:15,467
fernanda was my prima.
820
00:38:15,467 --> 00:38:19,384
she was supposed to stick up
for her own.
821
00:38:19,384 --> 00:38:21,342
but she chose
that bitch on the bus
822
00:38:21,342 --> 00:38:23,736
over her family.
823
00:38:55,158 --> 00:38:59,075
thank you, man.
i appreciate it. really.
824
00:38:59,075 --> 00:39:00,468
it's just soda.
825
00:39:00,468 --> 00:39:02,078
it's diet, right?
826
00:39:02,078 --> 00:39:03,166
yep.
827
00:39:06,126 --> 00:39:06,909
mr. jane?
828
00:39:06,909 --> 00:39:08,433
ms. montague.
829
00:39:08,433 --> 00:39:10,739
we have some important business
to conclude.
830
00:39:10,739 --> 00:39:12,306
we do?
831
00:39:16,397 --> 00:39:17,659
for you.
832
00:39:17,659 --> 00:39:20,270
ah.i--
833
00:39:20,270 --> 00:39:22,664
hang on.
834
00:39:22,664 --> 00:39:25,101
mm-hmm.
yeah, that's good.
835
00:39:25,101 --> 00:39:27,103
okay?thank you.
836
00:39:27,103 --> 00:39:29,105
i always settle my debts.
837
00:39:29,105 --> 00:39:32,239
you were right.
that wasn't a serial killer.
838
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,808
mm. you remind me.
i almost forgot.
839
00:39:35,808 --> 00:39:38,288
thank you.
forgotten it, too.
840
00:39:38,288 --> 00:39:40,552
useful brooch. um, and i--
841
00:39:40,552 --> 00:39:43,163
i was hoping that, you know,
you might forgive me
842
00:39:43,163 --> 00:39:45,208
any misdirection
i might have given you.
843
00:39:45,208 --> 00:39:46,601
oh, yes. no.
844
00:39:46,601 --> 00:39:50,257
no, i-i...
actually, it was bracing
845
00:39:50,257 --> 00:39:52,781
to have one's
operating principles challenged
846
00:39:52,781 --> 00:39:54,348
so... robustly.
847
00:39:54,348 --> 00:39:56,394
glad to be of service.
848
00:39:56,394 --> 00:39:58,613
you know,
i've never participated
849
00:39:58,613 --> 00:40:00,267
in chicanery before.
850
00:40:00,267 --> 00:40:02,269
i can't condone it
as a system,
851
00:40:02,269 --> 00:40:05,315
but i must admit that it adds...
zest to the task at hand.
852
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,449
in fact, w--
853
00:40:12,888 --> 00:40:17,197
how did you figure it out,
that it was esther and nilda?
854
00:40:19,504 --> 00:40:21,331
just a good guess.
855
00:40:21,331 --> 00:40:23,421
when we first with them,
856
00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:27,642
they were masking shame,
not sadness.
857
00:40:27,642 --> 00:40:30,340
and who likes lizards?
cold-blooded people.
858
00:40:30,340 --> 00:40:31,733
lizards.
859
00:40:31,733 --> 00:40:34,388
i think i shall stick
with hard numbers.
860
00:40:34,388 --> 00:40:36,390
i have another guess
for you.
861
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:38,348
the caveman isn't
coming back.
862
00:40:38,348 --> 00:40:40,481
he is almost certainly dead.
863
00:40:40,481 --> 00:40:43,571
possibly. i have no
personal bias on the matter.
864
00:40:43,571 --> 00:40:46,661
the numbers will eventually
reveal the truth either way.
865
00:40:46,661 --> 00:40:48,228
they always do.
866
00:40:48,228 --> 00:40:49,708
you really believe that?
867
00:40:49,708 --> 00:40:52,319
of course. if you could
stand far enough back
868
00:40:52,319 --> 00:40:56,802
to see the big picture,
everything is numbers.
869
00:40:56,802 --> 00:40:58,543
speaking of which...
870
00:40:58,543 --> 00:41:01,502
you gave me a gift,
so i must give you one.
871
00:41:01,502 --> 00:41:04,853
i ran red john
through the modeling program.
872
00:41:04,853 --> 00:41:07,682
you might find some
of the data sets useful.
873
00:41:07,682 --> 00:41:12,731
hmm. wow. lot of figures
and graphs here.
874
00:41:12,731 --> 00:41:14,123
that's right.
875
00:41:14,123 --> 00:41:15,211
hmm.
876
00:41:19,389 --> 00:41:21,304
good luck.
877
00:41:22,741 --> 00:41:24,220
well, thank you.
878
00:41:55,817 --> 00:41:58,559
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