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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,923 --> 00:00:12,360 That was Jenkins, though. 2 00:00:14,188 --> 00:00:18,409 He just didn't care if he saw another sunrise. 3 00:00:21,804 --> 00:00:24,565 Okay, let's shift back over to you. You... 4 00:00:24,589 --> 00:00:28,656 - You joined the force... - '05. Started in the Northwest. 5 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,356 And you told us that, um, you were doing small robberies, 6 00:00:32,380 --> 00:00:34,401 places like Belvedere Towers back then. 7 00:00:34,425 --> 00:00:38,144 Hmm. Mm-hmm, that was around '08. 8 00:00:38,168 --> 00:00:40,407 Uh, just leaning into some people, like I said. 9 00:00:40,431 --> 00:00:44,759 - Not any big stuff. - If I may, you, uh... 10 00:00:44,783 --> 00:00:47,849 sustained a gunshot wound in 2006. What was that about? 11 00:00:47,873 --> 00:00:52,313 I caught a hot one when some dude tried to rob me 12 00:00:53,009 --> 00:00:54,228 and he got shot. 13 00:00:58,493 --> 00:01:00,079 It's in the reports. 14 00:01:00,103 --> 00:01:01,950 You said that... I'm sure you got all that. 15 00:01:01,974 --> 00:01:04,866 Actually, we have conflicting info on that incident. 16 00:01:04,890 --> 00:01:06,651 Conflicting? 17 00:01:06,675 --> 00:01:09,567 One source indicated that that shooting was, um, 18 00:01:09,591 --> 00:01:11,873 actually drug related. 19 00:01:11,897 --> 00:01:14,137 A retaliation for some trafficking 20 00:01:14,161 --> 00:01:15,379 you were involved with. 21 00:01:17,033 --> 00:01:19,949 Who told you that? Ray am? 22 00:01:21,559 --> 00:01:23,885 Shoot. It's... 23 00:01:23,909 --> 00:01:25,757 Jemell just trying to shine the teacher's apple 24 00:01:25,781 --> 00:01:27,541 if he's laying stuff like that off on me. 25 00:01:27,565 --> 00:01:28,847 I mean, that ain't even credible. 26 00:01:28,871 --> 00:01:30,002 What... what is that? 27 00:01:31,308 --> 00:01:32,851 I mean, he's my boy, 28 00:01:32,875 --> 00:01:35,158 but he always had his own problems. 29 00:01:35,182 --> 00:01:37,182 - What kind of problems? - He likes women, for one. 30 00:01:43,668 --> 00:01:44,974 Excuse me, Miss Jensen. 31 00:01:51,546 --> 00:01:55,593 This shit goes way back to when he was in uniform. 32 00:02:10,695 --> 00:02:12,369 Yeah, he was lined up with the underworld 33 00:02:12,393 --> 00:02:13,394 from the beginning. 34 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,504 Jemell was married but, you know, 35 00:02:17,528 --> 00:02:19,568 he had this girlfriend, Crystal Ferguson. What's up? 36 00:02:28,148 --> 00:02:30,561 She knew all the players west of MLK. 37 00:02:30,585 --> 00:02:32,848 When they'd be at their cribs, when they wouldn't. 38 00:02:34,676 --> 00:02:36,417 She'd tell Jemell when they could be got. 39 00:02:39,420 --> 00:02:43,337 Fucking G-Money said that shit? 40 00:02:44,512 --> 00:02:46,446 Oh, wow. That's fucking funny. 41 00:02:46,470 --> 00:02:49,754 He... he's acting like he's all pure now? Okay. 42 00:02:49,778 --> 00:02:51,625 This fucking guy. 43 00:02:51,649 --> 00:02:54,130 Did Crystal Ferguson provide you with robbery targets? 44 00:02:59,353 --> 00:03:02,158 She Mighta. I don't recall, exactly. 45 00:03:02,182 --> 00:03:04,029 This was when you and Detective Gondo 46 00:03:04,053 --> 00:03:06,640 were on the Violent Crime Impact Division together? 47 00:03:06,664 --> 00:03:08,773 Nah, we went there later on. 48 00:03:08,797 --> 00:03:11,167 And we weren't on VCID together. 49 00:03:11,191 --> 00:03:13,908 Look, we were doing our thing, for sure. 50 00:03:13,932 --> 00:03:15,823 But, uh, separate. 51 00:03:15,847 --> 00:03:18,870 In 2009, you fatally shot a citizen, Shawn Cannady, 52 00:03:18,894 --> 00:03:20,374 in an alley off Pimlico Road. 53 00:03:23,638 --> 00:03:25,355 Self-defense. 54 00:03:25,379 --> 00:03:29,533 Uh-uh. Yo, no, not just the one. 55 00:03:29,557 --> 00:03:32,124 No, Jemell shot three people that year. 56 00:03:33,604 --> 00:03:35,408 Three. 57 00:03:35,432 --> 00:03:37,152 Get out of the car! Get out of the car, now! 58 00:03:40,437 --> 00:03:43,484 Now, Ray am told me he did the thing. I mean... 59 00:03:44,441 --> 00:03:45,441 ...he never denied it. 60 00:03:46,617 --> 00:03:48,116 Made it like the driver of a Lexus 61 00:03:48,140 --> 00:03:50,902 was using his vehicle as a weapon, 62 00:03:50,926 --> 00:03:53,905 claimed the Lex had clipped Giordano. 63 00:03:53,929 --> 00:03:55,539 And Jemell got off on that one. 64 00:03:57,411 --> 00:04:01,719 And Palmere was right there on the scene, coaching my man. 65 00:04:02,894 --> 00:04:05,743 Palmere, the deputy commissioner? 66 00:04:05,767 --> 00:04:09,901 Yeah, uh, Colonel back then, but, yeah. 67 00:04:20,434 --> 00:04:21,478 Colonel. 68 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,061 You felt that your life was in danger. 69 00:04:39,583 --> 00:04:40,802 Got it? 70 00:04:51,116 --> 00:04:53,205 The Cannady shooting was justified. 71 00:04:55,599 --> 00:04:57,838 And you were subsequently suspended for two years. 72 00:04:57,862 --> 00:04:59,710 Yeah, while they investigated the theft 73 00:04:59,734 --> 00:05:02,234 in the Gary Brown stop. 74 00:05:02,258 --> 00:05:04,695 You lied to IAD investigators regarding that one. 75 00:05:06,001 --> 00:05:08,917 - Right. - Suspended with pay. 76 00:05:10,484 --> 00:05:12,573 I guess you could say I was in limbo, yeah. 77 00:05:14,096 --> 00:05:19,817 And when you came off suspension in, uh, 2012? 78 00:05:19,841 --> 00:05:23,148 Yeah, I went to the Gun Trace Task Force. 79 00:05:27,762 --> 00:05:29,677 What am I paying you 500 dollars an hour for? 80 00:06:02,057 --> 00:06:03,057 - Back up. - Back up. 81 00:06:06,148 --> 00:06:07,995 Baltimore is a poster child 82 00:06:08,019 --> 00:06:11,521 for the basic failure to stop lawlessness. 83 00:06:11,545 --> 00:06:13,827 No justice, no peace! 84 00:06:13,851 --> 00:06:16,090 I've heard your calls for no justice, no peace. 85 00:06:16,114 --> 00:06:17,855 No justice, no peace! 86 00:06:46,275 --> 00:06:48,906 Where there's smoke, there's fire. 87 00:06:48,930 --> 00:06:52,368 These officers, they're 1930s-style gangsters. 88 00:07:01,595 --> 00:07:05,662 Detective Gondo, you joined the GTTF, 2010. 89 00:07:05,686 --> 00:07:07,533 Two years before Ray am. 90 00:07:07,557 --> 00:07:09,405 He got bounced around for a couple years. 91 00:07:09,429 --> 00:07:12,277 He was battling an Internal Affairs investigation. 92 00:07:12,301 --> 00:07:14,801 Before Ray am joined the GTTF, 93 00:07:14,825 --> 00:07:17,848 what was going on within the squad? 94 00:07:17,872 --> 00:07:22,940 Nothing inappropriate. Nothing criminal. Not really. 95 00:07:22,964 --> 00:07:24,942 And then after he came back from his suspension 96 00:07:24,966 --> 00:07:26,184 and rejoined? 97 00:07:27,751 --> 00:07:29,511 I mean, this shit just seemed to go downhill. 98 00:07:33,322 --> 00:07:36,194 That's all for now. 99 00:07:47,205 --> 00:07:48,642 All right, hands in front. 100 00:07:54,822 --> 00:07:56,626 Gondo doesn't have a problem talking about 101 00:07:56,650 --> 00:08:01,413 - a guy he says was his boy. - Some friend. 102 00:08:01,437 --> 00:08:05,025 Man, it's hard to believe Ray am has all those shootings, 103 00:08:05,049 --> 00:08:06,766 lies to the investigators, 104 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:09,334 gets caught on those lies, and... 105 00:08:09,358 --> 00:08:12,250 and when he comes off suspension, they reward him 106 00:08:12,274 --> 00:08:14,905 by dropping him in one of the most elite squads 107 00:08:14,929 --> 00:08:16,234 in the BPD. 108 00:08:17,627 --> 00:08:19,150 Cream rises to the top. 109 00:08:28,943 --> 00:08:30,834 Copy, turning 11 around. 110 00:08:30,858 --> 00:08:33,489 Fifteen blocks away. Can I get a... 111 00:08:33,513 --> 00:08:34,557 No ID? 112 00:08:35,471 --> 00:08:36,559 Nothing on him. 113 00:08:37,821 --> 00:08:39,606 Rigor says he's been there a while. 114 00:08:41,390 --> 00:08:42,783 I'll start knocking on doors. 115 00:08:50,181 --> 00:08:51,226 You all right? 116 00:08:55,012 --> 00:08:56,468 Just need a moment of your time. 117 00:08:56,492 --> 00:08:57,711 All right? That's all I need. 118 00:09:03,673 --> 00:09:06,154 How you doin' today, sir? Detective Sean Suiter. 119 00:09:06,981 --> 00:09:08,262 You are? 120 00:09:08,286 --> 00:09:09,592 I'm not inclined to give my name. 121 00:09:10,724 --> 00:09:11,918 Do you live around here? 122 00:09:11,942 --> 00:09:13,833 I stay up on Bond, near Preston. 123 00:09:13,857 --> 00:09:15,618 I was wondering if you saw or heard 124 00:09:15,642 --> 00:09:18,340 anything related to this, probably last night. 125 00:09:20,255 --> 00:09:21,885 By any chance, do you recognize the victim? 126 00:09:21,909 --> 00:09:23,669 Look, let me be straight with you, Detective, 127 00:09:23,693 --> 00:09:24,955 to save you some time. 128 00:09:25,869 --> 00:09:27,107 I don't talk to police. 129 00:09:27,131 --> 00:09:28,631 I'm Homicide. 130 00:09:28,655 --> 00:09:30,284 It make no difference to me. 131 00:09:30,308 --> 00:09:32,983 Ain't nobody born Homicide. 132 00:09:33,007 --> 00:09:34,617 Were you one of those jump-out boys? 133 00:09:36,184 --> 00:09:38,118 I did that for a while, yes. 134 00:09:38,142 --> 00:09:41,581 Some of y'all rob people. Hell, I got robbed my damn self. 135 00:09:43,017 --> 00:09:44,777 Look, nothing personal. 136 00:09:44,801 --> 00:09:46,601 But I've been living in Baltimore all my life. 137 00:09:47,238 --> 00:09:49,676 I know. I know. 138 00:09:50,807 --> 00:09:51,895 Just a moment. 139 00:09:53,462 --> 00:09:57,379 Something comes to you, uh, please call. 140 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:07,539 Hey, Sean. These houses are vacant here. 141 00:10:07,563 --> 00:10:08,932 So, what else we got, Charlie? 142 00:10:08,956 --> 00:10:11,064 What do you want? 143 00:10:11,088 --> 00:10:12,892 I got Fourth Amendment violations, warrant-less searches... 144 00:10:12,916 --> 00:10:14,677 You know what people are gonna say out in the suburbs? 145 00:10:14,701 --> 00:10:16,504 Hell, you know what half the country would say 146 00:10:16,528 --> 00:10:18,332 if they were to read this stuff? 147 00:10:18,356 --> 00:10:20,030 "They might not have been guilty of something 148 00:10:20,054 --> 00:10:22,075 on the day they got pulled over or jacked up, 149 00:10:22,099 --> 00:10:24,275 but they damn sure were guilty of something." 150 00:10:25,015 --> 00:10:26,950 So? 151 00:10:26,974 --> 00:10:29,343 So I'm saying, in the minds of Wonder Bread Americans, 152 00:10:29,367 --> 00:10:30,780 these people aren't really victims. 153 00:10:30,804 --> 00:10:32,738 They deserved it. 154 00:10:32,762 --> 00:10:36,046 - Ahmed's right about the optics. - Look, we dug up instances 155 00:10:36,070 --> 00:10:37,700 where Baltimore police came down on people 156 00:10:37,724 --> 00:10:39,136 who weren't drug dealers, 157 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,833 who weren't doing anything dirty. 158 00:10:40,857 --> 00:10:42,530 These folks had no previous charges whatsoever 159 00:10:42,554 --> 00:10:44,315 outside of simple marijuana possession 160 00:10:44,339 --> 00:10:46,970 or traffic violations. I've got claims that cops 161 00:10:46,994 --> 00:10:49,059 flat-out robbed straight citizens. 162 00:10:49,083 --> 00:10:53,348 Hold on. Let's see, um, ah, here it is. 163 00:10:54,958 --> 00:10:57,371 Guy's name is James Otis. You should talk to him. 164 00:10:57,395 --> 00:10:59,852 He ran afoul of a guy we know and love. 165 00:10:59,876 --> 00:11:04,291 Our old friend. All right, I'll go and talk to him. 166 00:11:04,315 --> 00:11:05,858 We have a little time to add 167 00:11:05,882 --> 00:11:07,710 the finishing touches to the decree. 168 00:11:17,067 --> 00:11:18,199 There's Gondo. 169 00:11:21,071 --> 00:11:23,552 Be advised, the subject has gone to ground. 170 00:11:26,076 --> 00:11:28,296 We'll wait to be sure he's in for the night, then move. 171 00:11:29,427 --> 00:11:30,472 Copy that. 172 00:11:40,656 --> 00:11:41,851 Okay. 173 00:11:41,875 --> 00:11:44,704 Hey, um, I can do this for you. 174 00:11:45,574 --> 00:11:47,204 You can do this for me? 175 00:11:47,228 --> 00:11:48,925 I mean, you know, in case... 176 00:11:49,665 --> 00:11:51,512 In case what? 177 00:11:51,536 --> 00:11:52,949 I'm just saying. You know, I mean, it's dark, 178 00:11:52,973 --> 00:11:54,385 you're crawling around in there... 179 00:11:54,409 --> 00:11:55,865 It's dark and I can't find my way 180 00:11:55,889 --> 00:11:57,249 around the interior of a Chevrolet? 181 00:12:00,067 --> 00:12:02,393 I guess that didn't sound right. 182 00:12:02,417 --> 00:12:04,221 How did you want it to sound? 183 00:12:04,245 --> 00:12:06,658 Like a middle-aged white guy from 1974. 184 00:12:06,682 --> 00:12:08,529 No, you pretty much nailed that. 185 00:12:08,553 --> 00:12:10,749 - Yeah. - We are a go. 186 00:12:10,773 --> 00:12:12,819 Copy that. We see her on the move. 187 00:12:14,429 --> 00:12:16,126 Come on, come on, come on. 188 00:12:32,490 --> 00:12:33,796 Testing. Can you hear me? 189 00:12:39,715 --> 00:12:41,737 Okay. She's out. 190 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:43,782 Copy. We see her. 191 00:12:43,806 --> 00:12:46,437 Picked you up as soon as you got in. Clear as a bell. 192 00:12:46,461 --> 00:12:49,048 Sound activated. So as soon as you opened that door, 193 00:12:49,072 --> 00:12:50,160 it kicked in. 194 00:12:51,248 --> 00:12:53,923 Okay, we're set. All clear. 195 00:12:53,947 --> 00:12:58,536 Oh, man. Oh, no. I think I messed my hair up. 196 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:01,693 - Oh, Johnny, how's my hair look? - Okay. Enough. Thank you. 197 00:13:06,742 --> 00:13:09,112 No casings anywhere around the body. 198 00:13:09,136 --> 00:13:11,767 Could be he got done with a revolver. 199 00:13:11,791 --> 00:13:13,967 Or the casings got picked up. 200 00:13:15,359 --> 00:13:16,360 Well... 201 00:13:18,580 --> 00:13:20,384 autopsy will tell us tomorrow. 202 00:13:20,408 --> 00:13:22,328 We're not gonna get much help from the residents. 203 00:13:24,151 --> 00:13:27,217 Man you spoke to earlier was rough on you, huh? 204 00:13:27,241 --> 00:13:28,808 Yeah, he's right about some things. 205 00:13:29,634 --> 00:13:31,221 He had his truth. 206 00:13:31,245 --> 00:13:33,464 I had my path. I took it to get here. 207 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,227 I like what I'm doing now. 208 00:13:37,251 --> 00:13:38,924 I'm not gonna get all dramatic about it, 209 00:13:38,948 --> 00:13:41,666 say it's my calling. But being in Homicide, 210 00:13:41,690 --> 00:13:44,432 doing this kind of work, it feels right. 211 00:13:46,782 --> 00:13:49,959 But working drugs, that wasn't my finest hour. 212 00:13:51,265 --> 00:13:54,834 I mean, that shit was pointless, really. 213 00:13:56,183 --> 00:13:57,619 And I saw some things. 214 00:14:08,978 --> 00:14:10,327 That was a long time ago. 215 00:14:15,376 --> 00:14:18,050 You want another? I'm buying. 216 00:14:18,074 --> 00:14:20,816 In that case, let me get something off the top shelf. 217 00:14:40,401 --> 00:14:41,769 James Otis? That's right. 218 00:14:41,793 --> 00:14:44,361 Nicole Steele, DOJ. Thank you. 219 00:14:48,235 --> 00:14:50,387 It's quiet in here. 220 00:14:50,411 --> 00:14:52,389 We got three kids, so that's unusual. 221 00:14:52,413 --> 00:14:53,912 Two of 'em are in school today. 222 00:14:53,936 --> 00:14:55,087 And my wife took the youngest one out, 223 00:14:55,111 --> 00:14:56,156 so we could talk. 224 00:14:57,548 --> 00:14:59,439 Are you currently employed? 225 00:14:59,463 --> 00:15:02,747 Not currently. I was a HVAC repairman, you know, 226 00:15:02,771 --> 00:15:05,663 heating and air? I'll get to that. 227 00:15:05,687 --> 00:15:06,993 So, tell me about the incident. 228 00:15:09,169 --> 00:15:10,518 You mean when I got pulled over. 229 00:15:12,912 --> 00:15:14,933 I had just grabbed some pizza for me and my family, 230 00:15:14,957 --> 00:15:16,916 at that Ledo's they got behind Hopkins. 231 00:15:21,529 --> 00:15:23,463 And I was headed home 232 00:15:23,487 --> 00:15:26,447 on a street off of North Avenue, near Green Mount Cemetery. 233 00:15:28,536 --> 00:15:30,557 It was Hersl and two others. 234 00:15:30,581 --> 00:15:32,864 And this wasn't the first time I got stopped by Officer Hersl. 235 00:15:32,888 --> 00:15:35,040 He had a thing about my car, I guess. 236 00:15:35,064 --> 00:15:37,129 Anyway, they said my taillight was out. 237 00:15:37,153 --> 00:15:38,652 Was it? 238 00:15:38,676 --> 00:15:41,655 Yeah, it was. I got this classic car, 239 00:15:41,679 --> 00:15:45,529 an Impala SS. I bought on time. I knew my light was out, 240 00:15:45,553 --> 00:15:47,574 but I was waiting on the bulb to come in. 241 00:15:47,598 --> 00:15:50,577 Not easy to get parts on older cars. 242 00:15:50,601 --> 00:15:53,885 Homer Avenue. Still in Lower Park Heights? 243 00:15:53,909 --> 00:15:55,713 That's a nice neighborhood. 244 00:15:55,737 --> 00:15:57,454 If you're gonna give me a citation for that taillight, 245 00:15:57,478 --> 00:15:59,398 give me one. I'm trying to get home to my family. 246 00:16:00,481 --> 00:16:02,589 Oh, you see that? Assaulting a police officer. 247 00:16:02,613 --> 00:16:04,180 - Cuff his ass. - Motherfucker. 248 00:16:05,094 --> 00:16:06,593 What'd you say? 249 00:16:06,617 --> 00:16:09,379 Oh, shit. You know what? That reminds me, 250 00:16:09,403 --> 00:16:11,361 I almost forgot to search your vehicle. 251 00:16:13,015 --> 00:16:14,645 Man, you got no cause for that. 252 00:16:14,669 --> 00:16:15,757 Yes, I do. 253 00:16:20,022 --> 00:16:23,523 Could it be that sweet, sickening smell? 254 00:16:23,547 --> 00:16:25,830 You know, the one they told us about in middle school? 255 00:16:25,854 --> 00:16:27,788 Middle school about as far as you got, too. 256 00:16:27,812 --> 00:16:30,554 Yeah, keep talking. Sit down, asshole. 257 00:16:31,816 --> 00:16:33,446 Had you been smoking weed? 258 00:16:33,470 --> 00:16:35,187 I mean, everybody got that smell 259 00:16:35,211 --> 00:16:36,797 on them these days. 260 00:16:36,821 --> 00:16:39,104 You catch it just walking down the street. 261 00:16:39,128 --> 00:16:42,020 Cops use that as an excuse to toss your car all the time. 262 00:16:42,044 --> 00:16:43,717 Okay, what happened next? 263 00:16:43,741 --> 00:16:44,916 Hersl robbed me. 264 00:16:47,571 --> 00:16:50,226 I had just cashed my paycheck at the M-and-T on Fayette. 265 00:16:52,098 --> 00:16:53,708 Six hundred and fifty-eight dollars. 266 00:16:55,927 --> 00:16:57,755 All right, come on. On your feet. 267 00:16:58,669 --> 00:17:00,865 Let's go. Up, up, up. 268 00:17:00,889 --> 00:17:04,173 You take my money, huh? You take my money, Hersl? 269 00:17:04,197 --> 00:17:05,783 You ain't right, man. That's some bullshit. 270 00:17:05,807 --> 00:17:07,113 Come on. Shut up, man, let's go. 271 00:17:11,769 --> 00:17:13,182 I was jail side for two days 272 00:17:13,206 --> 00:17:15,445 before anyone got to me. 273 00:17:15,469 --> 00:17:17,819 Otis. 274 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,800 Never even spoke to a public defender. 275 00:17:22,824 --> 00:17:25,107 A state prosecutor they had there interviewed me, 276 00:17:25,131 --> 00:17:26,760 and when I told him what happened, 277 00:17:26,784 --> 00:17:28,719 he had me sign a form that waived my right 278 00:17:28,743 --> 00:17:30,460 to sue the city for false arrest, 279 00:17:30,484 --> 00:17:31,809 in exchange for them throwing out 280 00:17:31,833 --> 00:17:33,854 the charges on the spot. 281 00:17:33,878 --> 00:17:36,857 They knew what they had on me was bullshit and wouldn't stick. 282 00:17:36,881 --> 00:17:39,251 So it never went to court. That's a good thing, right? 283 00:17:39,275 --> 00:17:40,513 Let me finish. 284 00:17:40,537 --> 00:17:42,950 Come on, man. Give me a break. 285 00:17:42,974 --> 00:17:44,865 - On account of the days I was locked up... - I got a family. 286 00:17:44,889 --> 00:17:47,477 ...my calls went unserviced, and we lost a couple customers. 287 00:17:47,501 --> 00:17:48,652 Sorry, James. My employer told me he had to let me go. 288 00:17:48,676 --> 00:17:50,393 You had no recourse? 289 00:17:50,417 --> 00:17:52,525 I already signed away my right to a lawsuit, 290 00:17:52,549 --> 00:17:54,223 I told you that. 291 00:17:54,247 --> 00:17:56,118 But I did file a complaint, on principle. 292 00:17:58,120 --> 00:17:59,837 Did you get your money back, at least? 293 00:17:59,861 --> 00:18:03,797 Shit. Of the 658 dollars he took? 294 00:18:03,821 --> 00:18:06,128 Hersl submitted 50 to Evidence Control. 295 00:18:07,651 --> 00:18:10,132 - He pocketed the rest. - You surprised? 296 00:18:13,614 --> 00:18:15,224 He probably drank my money away. 297 00:18:21,491 --> 00:18:23,382 About to take all your money. 298 00:18:23,406 --> 00:18:25,993 Or had himself a good old time with it. 299 00:18:26,017 --> 00:18:27,430 Let's see what you got there. 300 00:18:27,454 --> 00:18:29,084 God damn! 301 00:18:29,108 --> 00:18:30,911 Some shit like that. 302 00:18:30,935 --> 00:18:32,391 Come on. I'll spot ya, I'll spot ya. Come on. 303 00:18:32,415 --> 00:18:33,851 It was nothing to him. 304 00:18:34,939 --> 00:18:36,700 Later. 305 00:18:36,724 --> 00:18:39,181 That money meant something to me. I earned it. 306 00:18:39,205 --> 00:18:42,445 My wife and me, we got no cushion, for real. 307 00:18:42,469 --> 00:18:46,188 When I cash my paycheck, every penny goes to my mortgage, 308 00:18:46,212 --> 00:18:48,929 groceries, stuff for my kids. 309 00:18:48,953 --> 00:18:52,542 This set me back. Bank's about to repo my car. 310 00:18:52,566 --> 00:18:54,196 If I do get a job now, 311 00:18:54,220 --> 00:18:56,633 how am I supposed to get to work? 312 00:18:56,657 --> 00:18:59,070 Everyone who lives here knows what time it is. 313 00:18:59,094 --> 00:19:01,464 Police treating all of us like criminals, 314 00:19:01,488 --> 00:19:03,229 people like me, my family. 315 00:19:12,890 --> 00:19:15,391 Detective Ray am, your partner, Gondo, 316 00:19:15,415 --> 00:19:17,306 says that when you joined GTTF, 317 00:19:17,330 --> 00:19:20,744 things, in his words, "Began to go downhill." 318 00:19:20,768 --> 00:19:23,703 Yo, Gondo was in the mix from the start. 319 00:19:23,727 --> 00:19:25,183 All right? It wasn't me who cultivated 320 00:19:25,207 --> 00:19:26,706 a relationship with Brill. 321 00:19:26,730 --> 00:19:30,623 - You mean Antonio Shropshire. - Right. 322 00:19:30,647 --> 00:19:32,321 That goes back to when they were kids, 323 00:19:32,345 --> 00:19:35,280 long before Gondo knew me. 324 00:19:35,304 --> 00:19:38,414 And honestly, neither one of us supervised the squad. 325 00:19:38,438 --> 00:19:40,067 We just followed the leader. 326 00:19:40,091 --> 00:19:41,982 You're talking about Wayne Jenkins? 327 00:19:42,006 --> 00:19:45,421 And Allers before him too, shit. 328 00:19:45,445 --> 00:19:49,318 Oh, fuck. You know... ...there... there was this, um... 329 00:19:51,015 --> 00:19:56,475 one robbery back in, uh, 2014. 330 00:19:56,499 --> 00:19:59,043 Allers got the tip from a CI he'd been working with. 331 00:19:59,067 --> 00:20:02,525 Out in West Edmondale? 332 00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:04,875 That's it. 5454. 333 00:20:04,899 --> 00:20:06,964 One with the white bars on the door. 334 00:20:06,988 --> 00:20:09,445 Sergeant Allers brought his son with us on that one. 335 00:20:09,469 --> 00:20:12,622 I reckon it was a "Bring Your Kid to Work Day." 336 00:20:12,646 --> 00:20:15,407 - Husband and wife team. - Yes, sir. 337 00:20:15,431 --> 00:20:17,912 George Williams and Yolanda Paige-Williams. 338 00:20:20,523 --> 00:20:23,241 G, this shit could be big, man. 339 00:20:23,265 --> 00:20:26,486 Yeah, seen his photo. Bigger than a motherfucker. 340 00:20:28,270 --> 00:20:30,161 Are we gonna call the county boys in on this? 341 00:20:30,185 --> 00:20:32,555 After we see what we got. Come on, y'all ready to do this? 342 00:20:32,579 --> 00:20:34,861 - Let's go. - You ready? 343 00:20:34,885 --> 00:20:36,885 Wake your ass us up, motherfucker. Let's get going. 344 00:20:46,506 --> 00:20:48,116 All right, son, you fall back right here. 345 00:20:51,424 --> 00:20:52,947 Police! What do you want? 346 00:20:53,469 --> 00:20:55,795 Police! 347 00:20:55,819 --> 00:20:57,667 Stand back. Get down! Stand back, motherfucker. 348 00:20:57,691 --> 00:20:59,712 That house was hot. 349 00:20:59,736 --> 00:21:02,348 We cleaned the fuck up. Boy, shit. 350 00:21:04,219 --> 00:21:07,266 Hey, don't play with me. 351 00:21:11,792 --> 00:21:16,816 Seventy, 80, 90, 100. Look at this shit, baby. 352 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,123 That's a hundred grand right there. 353 00:21:19,147 --> 00:21:21,430 There was 416,000 dollars in that bedroom. 354 00:21:21,454 --> 00:21:24,737 Forty, 50, 60, 70... When the county police showed up, 355 00:21:24,761 --> 00:21:27,523 - they found 350. - You believe this shit? 356 00:21:27,547 --> 00:21:29,264 Shit, stop playing with me. 357 00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:31,570 Detective Ward, when Wayne Jenkins took over 358 00:21:31,594 --> 00:21:34,554 the supervision of the GTTF from Sergeant Allers... 359 00:21:35,642 --> 00:21:38,229 what was the biggest change? 360 00:21:38,253 --> 00:21:41,798 Well, I came after Allers, but from what I heard, 361 00:21:41,822 --> 00:21:43,582 it wasn't like he didn't know how to steal. 362 00:21:43,606 --> 00:21:45,715 It's just, Jenks, man, he... 363 00:21:45,739 --> 00:21:47,369 ...he was something else. 364 00:21:47,393 --> 00:21:48,394 Tell us. 365 00:21:50,483 --> 00:21:53,897 Well, you gotta remember, it was like a new squad. 366 00:21:53,921 --> 00:21:57,204 Me, Taylor, Hendrix, and Jenkins had just come on. 367 00:21:57,228 --> 00:22:01,363 And later on, Jenkins added this new kid, Kost-o-please. 368 00:22:02,495 --> 00:22:05,648 - James Kostoplis. - K-Stop. 369 00:22:05,672 --> 00:22:08,762 Yeah, his people were from one of them countries over there. 370 00:22:10,764 --> 00:22:12,524 But Jenkins knew him from when he was a patrol sergeant 371 00:22:12,548 --> 00:22:14,985 in the Northeast. K-Stop was in his squad over there. 372 00:22:21,514 --> 00:22:23,100 This kid adored Jenkins. 373 00:22:23,124 --> 00:22:25,126 I mean, he really looked up to him. 374 00:22:30,044 --> 00:22:34,067 And also when he came, Jenkins told us new guys 375 00:22:34,091 --> 00:22:36,418 that Gondo and Ray am were under federal investigation 376 00:22:36,442 --> 00:22:38,115 for selling drugs. 377 00:22:38,139 --> 00:22:40,881 Were Gondo and Ray am... Did they seem concerned? 378 00:22:42,578 --> 00:22:45,209 Not really. I mean, when Jenks came in, 379 00:22:45,233 --> 00:22:47,385 everybody was excited about the money. 380 00:22:47,409 --> 00:22:49,213 To be honest with you, 381 00:22:49,237 --> 00:22:50,823 nobody really thought too hard on anything else. 382 00:22:50,847 --> 00:22:52,936 The money? The overtime pay. 383 00:22:54,503 --> 00:22:56,699 With Jenkins, it was like we had permission 384 00:22:56,723 --> 00:23:00,291 to rob that fund. The faucet was on, full force. 385 00:23:01,771 --> 00:23:04,707 I don't know Jenkins. Not like you. 386 00:23:04,731 --> 00:23:06,411 All right, let me tell you how this boy be. 387 00:23:07,647 --> 00:23:09,755 He'll come in late every day. 388 00:23:09,779 --> 00:23:12,279 So we don't come in till 10:00 or 11:00. 389 00:23:12,303 --> 00:23:13,846 And depending on how he feel, 390 00:23:13,870 --> 00:23:16,153 we might roll out on regular time. 391 00:23:16,177 --> 00:23:18,416 That's how he gets down, man. 392 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,724 We got that green light. Some supervisor told Jenks 393 00:23:21,748 --> 00:23:24,074 the overtime budget is wide open. 394 00:23:24,098 --> 00:23:26,187 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - "Work as much as you want." 395 00:23:27,884 --> 00:23:29,296 Bet. 396 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,994 Ain't no thing, man. 397 00:23:31,018 --> 00:23:32,125 You gonna like him, you gonna like Jenks. 398 00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:33,194 Matter of fact... 399 00:23:35,239 --> 00:23:38,697 last night, Jenkins tells us to put in slips 400 00:23:38,721 --> 00:23:42,875 for six OT hours. We ain't even work a full shift. 401 00:23:42,899 --> 00:23:45,138 We bang... We like this. Banging that OT, G. 402 00:23:45,162 --> 00:23:47,358 - Hey. Yeah, hit me with that. - You know what I'm saying? 403 00:23:47,382 --> 00:23:48,949 He cool. I'm with that. 404 00:23:50,298 --> 00:23:52,798 - Yeah. - Crazy, but he cool. 405 00:23:52,822 --> 00:23:54,911 The summary reads like butter. 406 00:23:58,611 --> 00:24:00,110 Got it all done. 407 00:24:00,134 --> 00:24:01,590 Mayor Rawlings-Blake asked for it. 408 00:24:01,614 --> 00:24:03,026 And she'll get her copy just in time 409 00:24:03,050 --> 00:24:04,984 for her to make her exit. 410 00:24:05,008 --> 00:24:08,205 "The Baltimore Police Department engages in a practice 411 00:24:08,229 --> 00:24:10,425 or pattern of making unconstitutional stops, 412 00:24:10,449 --> 00:24:12,514 searches, and arrests." 413 00:24:12,538 --> 00:24:14,733 Here we go. "Disparities in the rates of stops, 414 00:24:14,757 --> 00:24:16,474 searches, and arrests of African Americans," 415 00:24:16,498 --> 00:24:18,171 and, "Driven by systemic deficiencies 416 00:24:18,195 --> 00:24:19,825 of BPD policies, training, 417 00:24:19,849 --> 00:24:21,523 supervision, and accountability structures." 418 00:24:21,547 --> 00:24:23,263 This is incendiary shit. 419 00:24:23,287 --> 00:24:25,222 I would hope so. But it's not a directive. 420 00:24:25,246 --> 00:24:27,267 We still have to get the consent decree signed. 421 00:24:27,291 --> 00:24:28,704 - Right. - So we drop that on Pugh 422 00:24:28,728 --> 00:24:29,966 as soon as she puts on the crown. 423 00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:31,576 We're moving pretty fast now. 424 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,448 We gotta get the consent decree out there 425 00:24:33,472 --> 00:24:35,362 before the new administration comes in, in January. 426 00:24:35,386 --> 00:24:37,103 Hilary's AG, whoever that is, should be 427 00:24:37,127 --> 00:24:38,912 a little bit sympathetic to police reform. 428 00:24:39,913 --> 00:24:41,543 Assuming... 429 00:24:41,567 --> 00:24:42,979 How is your friend, the police commissioner, 430 00:24:43,003 --> 00:24:44,178 gonna like this? 431 00:24:55,624 --> 00:24:57,167 Have you read this? 432 00:24:57,191 --> 00:24:58,864 I read enough. We're doing our jobs. 433 00:24:58,888 --> 00:25:01,127 What do people want, for us to stop policing? 434 00:25:01,151 --> 00:25:03,173 They want us to do it in a better way, 435 00:25:03,197 --> 00:25:05,044 without the collateral damage. 436 00:25:05,068 --> 00:25:06,698 But how? How do you keep control of this much violence 437 00:25:06,722 --> 00:25:08,700 without being aggressive? 438 00:25:08,724 --> 00:25:11,597 Doesn't help that shit like this gets everyone all ginned up. 439 00:25:13,773 --> 00:25:15,664 These popped up all over the city. 440 00:25:15,688 --> 00:25:18,734 - Idiots misspelled "loiterers." - Does make a point. 441 00:25:22,651 --> 00:25:23,651 Is that all? 442 00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:32,463 Hey, G, what up? What up? 443 00:25:32,487 --> 00:25:34,509 Look, Jemell, I know Jenkins do some crazy shit. 444 00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:36,119 You don't gotta tell me. 445 00:25:36,143 --> 00:25:37,990 Old Jenks is code-motherfucking-red. 446 00:25:38,014 --> 00:25:39,731 All right, but look... 447 00:25:39,755 --> 00:25:42,018 ...this last paycheck I just got from the city? 448 00:25:43,237 --> 00:25:45,258 Eight thousand dollars. 449 00:25:45,282 --> 00:25:48,784 When I looked at it, I was like, "Oh, my God, who did this?" 450 00:25:48,808 --> 00:25:51,743 "This is a lie." 451 00:25:51,767 --> 00:25:55,704 Telling you, there's a method to Jenkins's madness. He... 452 00:25:55,728 --> 00:25:57,532 Yeah. Yeah, that motherfucker 453 00:25:57,556 --> 00:26:00,360 off the chain, G. But, look, like I said, 454 00:26:00,384 --> 00:26:01,840 let's go at this shit hard. 455 00:26:01,864 --> 00:26:03,363 Let's enjoy this shit while we can 456 00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:05,278 'cause all good things come to an end. 457 00:26:05,302 --> 00:26:06,976 For real. 458 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,979 But, Jenks, man, he off the fucking chain, yo. 459 00:26:10,003 --> 00:26:12,677 He off the motherfucking chain, B. 460 00:26:12,701 --> 00:26:14,244 He off the fucking chain, B. 461 00:26:14,268 --> 00:26:16,400 I swear, that nigga off the chain, G. 462 00:26:19,055 --> 00:26:21,033 All this bogus overtime they're banking, 463 00:26:21,057 --> 00:26:23,122 we'll get every one of 'em on wire fraud. 464 00:26:23,146 --> 00:26:25,342 Bring in the IRS, we got tax evasion too. 465 00:26:25,366 --> 00:26:26,952 The old-fashioned way. 466 00:26:26,976 --> 00:26:28,475 Starting to love me some Wayne Jenkins. 467 00:26:28,499 --> 00:26:29,762 He off the chain, yo. 468 00:26:33,374 --> 00:26:36,005 I read most of your book, Mr. Grabler. 469 00:26:36,029 --> 00:26:39,008 And sure enough, you write about many of the same issues 470 00:26:39,032 --> 00:26:41,401 that we at the DOJ are trying to address. 471 00:26:41,425 --> 00:26:43,926 Mm, thank you. You know, there's an old joke 472 00:26:43,950 --> 00:26:47,277 that inside of every old cop is a book. 473 00:26:47,301 --> 00:26:49,366 And that's exactly where it should stay. 474 00:26:49,390 --> 00:26:52,195 Well, you certainly wrote from experience. 475 00:26:52,219 --> 00:26:55,415 Oh, I did. I did. I came on in '72. 476 00:26:55,439 --> 00:26:59,942 Uh, walking foot up in the Northwest, and then, uh, 477 00:26:59,966 --> 00:27:02,379 plainclothes ops, after that, narcotics. 478 00:27:02,403 --> 00:27:04,686 And I did my longest stint in Homicide. 479 00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:06,862 After my retirement, I ended up back here, 480 00:27:06,886 --> 00:27:09,386 - at the Academy, teaching. - Sounds like a rewarding career. 481 00:27:09,410 --> 00:27:10,585 It was, it was. 482 00:27:12,065 --> 00:27:13,869 I loved being a cop, you know. 483 00:27:13,893 --> 00:27:16,654 I loved it when the job meant something, when you could 484 00:27:16,678 --> 00:27:19,265 make an arrest for a street robbery or a rapist, 485 00:27:19,289 --> 00:27:22,007 or put down a murderer. There was nothing finer. 486 00:27:22,031 --> 00:27:24,619 Nothing finer. But people had to talk to you, 487 00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:26,751 and once upon a time, they did. 488 00:27:26,775 --> 00:27:28,535 Well, of course, not all of them. 489 00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:30,537 There was a street code for snitching. 490 00:27:30,561 --> 00:27:32,670 But there were always enough people 491 00:27:32,694 --> 00:27:34,585 on the post that would talk to you. 492 00:27:34,609 --> 00:27:36,108 That trust is broken. 493 00:27:36,132 --> 00:27:38,023 You can't get information 494 00:27:38,047 --> 00:27:39,546 out of somebody while you're beating on 'em, 495 00:27:39,570 --> 00:27:41,548 or you got your hand in their pocket. 496 00:27:41,572 --> 00:27:43,550 And then lying about it in court. Yeah. 497 00:27:43,574 --> 00:27:46,641 You know, everything changed 498 00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:48,164 when they came up with that expression, 499 00:27:48,188 --> 00:27:50,601 "The War on Drugs." 500 00:27:50,625 --> 00:27:53,386 What an idiotic fucking thing to say. 501 00:27:53,410 --> 00:27:56,433 What the hell is a war on drugs? What does that mean? 502 00:27:56,457 --> 00:27:59,697 Waging a war against citizens 503 00:27:59,721 --> 00:28:02,744 by definition is separating us into two opposing camps. 504 00:28:02,768 --> 00:28:05,094 The colonizer and the colonized. 505 00:28:05,118 --> 00:28:07,879 Ah, Albert Memmi, very good, yes. 506 00:28:07,903 --> 00:28:10,490 And with a war comes police militarization. 507 00:28:10,514 --> 00:28:14,799 SWAT teams, tactical squads, stop-and-frisk, strip searches, 508 00:28:14,823 --> 00:28:17,672 a complete gutting of the Fourth Amendment. 509 00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:19,499 I mean, it's like we're... We're fighting terrorists 510 00:28:19,523 --> 00:28:21,110 - on foreign soil. - Hmm. 511 00:28:21,134 --> 00:28:22,633 And you can't just blame the cops. 512 00:28:22,657 --> 00:28:24,200 We serve the politicians, 513 00:28:24,224 --> 00:28:27,986 who thrive on being tough on crime. 514 00:28:28,010 --> 00:28:29,466 Zero tolerance. 515 00:28:29,490 --> 00:28:31,816 Zero tolerance, quality of life arrests. 516 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,123 Having a beer on your own stoop. 517 00:28:34,147 --> 00:28:38,107 Uh, loitering, spitting on the sidewalk, existing. 518 00:28:38,978 --> 00:28:39,979 Existing. 519 00:28:41,763 --> 00:28:46,091 In 2005, I think it was, when O'Malley was still mayor, 520 00:28:46,115 --> 00:28:49,399 they made 100,000 arrests, 521 00:28:49,423 --> 00:28:51,096 most of them Black, most of them poor. 522 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,794 That's almost one arrest 523 00:28:52,818 --> 00:28:55,971 for every six Baltimoreans in one year. 524 00:28:55,995 --> 00:28:59,496 They jacked up people six, seven times, maybe 12 times. 525 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,890 And many of those arrests were illegal, 526 00:29:01,914 --> 00:29:05,047 never made it to court. But they got their stats. 527 00:29:07,528 --> 00:29:08,747 What do you teach here? 528 00:29:09,878 --> 00:29:11,508 I teach the law 529 00:29:11,532 --> 00:29:13,771 to cadets who are about to hit the streets. 530 00:29:13,795 --> 00:29:16,469 Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments. 531 00:29:16,493 --> 00:29:19,951 A cop can't uphold the law unless he understands the law. 532 00:29:19,975 --> 00:29:23,022 I teach these young kids to be good, honest cops. 533 00:29:24,197 --> 00:29:25,459 The rest is up to them. 534 00:29:26,852 --> 00:29:28,332 You've given a lot of thought to this. 535 00:29:28,854 --> 00:29:29,898 Yeah. 536 00:29:31,204 --> 00:29:32,858 I come off as angry sometimes. 537 00:29:35,425 --> 00:29:36,426 Aren't you angry? 538 00:29:42,868 --> 00:29:44,323 So, at some point, Jenkins told you 539 00:29:44,347 --> 00:29:45,740 that you were under investigation? 540 00:29:46,654 --> 00:29:48,893 We knew. 541 00:29:48,917 --> 00:29:52,549 By that time, we had a sense y'all was on us. 542 00:29:52,573 --> 00:29:56,640 Wasn't no charade about the fact Jenkins was in the shit, too. 543 00:29:56,664 --> 00:29:59,556 There was this one night where we pulled over a suspect, 544 00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:01,819 and followed him to his house. 545 00:30:01,843 --> 00:30:05,127 Took him off for like a pound of marijuana to sell. 546 00:30:05,151 --> 00:30:06,630 Jenkins told me to off it. 547 00:30:07,631 --> 00:30:09,609 Did you? 548 00:30:09,633 --> 00:30:12,134 No, I had Gondo sell it through his friend, Glen Wells. 549 00:30:12,158 --> 00:30:14,266 Yeah, but you must have had your own connect 550 00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:16,442 to sell the drugs that you'd been confiscating. 551 00:30:16,466 --> 00:30:18,270 That was my boy up in Philadelphia. 552 00:30:18,294 --> 00:30:19,924 Let's come back to that. 553 00:30:19,948 --> 00:30:24,189 On July 15 of 2016, you and other GTTF, 554 00:30:24,213 --> 00:30:27,714 uh, detained a Ronald and Nancy Hamilton. 555 00:30:27,738 --> 00:30:32,415 Oh, shit. Y'all remember that? 556 00:30:32,439 --> 00:30:34,373 Tha... Wow, that's fuckin' impressive. 557 00:30:34,397 --> 00:30:36,835 We have you and Gondo on tape, discussing it. 558 00:30:38,401 --> 00:30:42,294 Right. Well, yeah, we got the tip on Hamilton 559 00:30:42,318 --> 00:30:44,427 from a sergeant in the Southwestern. 560 00:30:44,451 --> 00:30:47,212 We got a warrant from a judge. I put a tracker on the car. 561 00:30:47,236 --> 00:30:49,606 Had a big old house out in Carroll County with a pool. 562 00:30:49,630 --> 00:30:52,000 Motherfucker was a monster. Shit. 563 00:30:52,024 --> 00:30:53,479 You had authority for the tracker? 564 00:30:53,503 --> 00:30:55,960 Hell no. Did that on my own. 565 00:30:55,984 --> 00:30:58,571 Anyway, after we decided to do, you know, the thing, 566 00:30:58,595 --> 00:31:01,052 we followed the Hamiltons to Reisterstown Road. 567 00:31:01,076 --> 00:31:02,662 - Where's your money at? - Jacked 'em up. 568 00:31:02,686 --> 00:31:04,534 See what you got here. 569 00:31:04,558 --> 00:31:07,450 Is that a cellphone, hmm? Now, where that money at? 570 00:31:07,474 --> 00:31:09,626 I found a roll of cash on Hamilton right there. 571 00:31:09,650 --> 00:31:11,019 Put your hands down. Go over there. 572 00:31:11,043 --> 00:31:12,977 Yo, go over there. 573 00:31:13,001 --> 00:31:14,761 Shit had to be drug money, so I knew we had the right dude. 574 00:31:14,785 --> 00:31:16,067 Don't talk to her. 575 00:31:16,091 --> 00:31:17,286 Was Sergeant Jenkins there? 576 00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:19,854 No, he was at the barn. 577 00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:22,117 You see, the plan was to bring them there, 578 00:31:22,141 --> 00:31:26,338 and then to introduce Jenks as a US Attorney. 579 00:31:26,362 --> 00:31:30,081 Oh, shit, fucking Jenkins as a US Attorney. 580 00:31:30,105 --> 00:31:35,739 Oh, no offense intended there. 581 00:31:35,763 --> 00:31:37,697 Sir, I can see from your file here 582 00:31:37,721 --> 00:31:41,005 that you are a smart individual, and as a federal prosecutor, 583 00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:44,443 I have been dealing with these kinda cases for quite a while, 584 00:31:44,467 --> 00:31:46,489 I'm just gonna tell you in full candor, 585 00:31:46,513 --> 00:31:48,708 Mr. Hamilton, you are looking at a serious amount of years 586 00:31:48,732 --> 00:31:51,276 unless you start giving us the right answers. 587 00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:53,452 Now, look, we have you on three separate controlled buys. 588 00:31:53,476 --> 00:31:55,498 - Now, we... - Man, get the fuck out of here. 589 00:31:55,522 --> 00:31:57,587 Okay, first off, I'm not "man," okay? 590 00:31:57,611 --> 00:32:00,982 So, let's just do that again. I'm a US Attorney, okay? 591 00:32:01,006 --> 00:32:03,375 Whatever. And I don't sell no drugs. 592 00:32:03,399 --> 00:32:05,595 Man, what are you doing? 593 00:32:05,619 --> 00:32:07,510 You have multiple federal drug convictions. 594 00:32:07,534 --> 00:32:09,599 You did six years because of those convictions. 595 00:32:09,623 --> 00:32:11,514 This says that right there. What do you think you gonna do? 596 00:32:11,538 --> 00:32:12,863 You think you're gonna outsmart me? 597 00:32:12,887 --> 00:32:14,952 Now, let's try this shit again. 598 00:32:14,976 --> 00:32:18,913 You currently own this home in, uh, in Westminster, correct? 599 00:32:18,937 --> 00:32:21,330 Do you currently have quantities of drugs at that home? 600 00:32:27,380 --> 00:32:29,619 - Man, he don't like talking much, huh? - No. 601 00:32:29,643 --> 00:32:31,664 I'm sorry, you... you're hearing what I'm saying, right? 602 00:32:31,688 --> 00:32:33,362 I'm hearing you perfectly fucking clear. 603 00:32:33,386 --> 00:32:35,277 Am I not talking loud enough? What is it? 604 00:32:35,301 --> 00:32:37,496 You want me to be slower? What is it? Is it pronunciation? 605 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,889 - What do you fuckin' think the deal is? - Heard you just fine. 606 00:32:38,913 --> 00:32:40,369 Yeah, I heard you good. 607 00:32:40,393 --> 00:32:43,415 Do you currently have quantities of drugs 608 00:32:43,439 --> 00:32:45,050 at your home in Westminster? 609 00:32:49,837 --> 00:32:51,815 Well, shit. 610 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:54,079 Guess we're just gonna have to go out there and find out. 611 00:32:56,844 --> 00:32:58,759 Hamilton's house was nice. 612 00:33:02,328 --> 00:33:05,394 Oh. Boom! Yahtzee. 613 00:33:05,418 --> 00:33:09,267 - Hey, yo! I see money. - Whoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo. 614 00:33:09,291 --> 00:33:10,921 - Come on. - 'Bout that shit. 615 00:33:10,945 --> 00:33:13,010 Hersl and Gondo found money. 616 00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:15,534 - But no drugs. - Look at that. All right, man. 617 00:33:15,558 --> 00:33:17,232 - Yep! - Hell, yeah! 618 00:33:17,256 --> 00:33:18,973 He left Hersl in the room, 619 00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:20,844 which was a mistake. 620 00:33:20,868 --> 00:33:22,541 We were downstairs, 621 00:33:22,565 --> 00:33:24,543 waiting on the State Police to arrive. 622 00:33:24,567 --> 00:33:27,396 Fifty K? Where the rest of it at? 623 00:33:29,659 --> 00:33:31,550 Y'all are gonna take my money? 624 00:33:31,574 --> 00:33:34,118 I earned that gambling, selling cars I get at auctions. 625 00:33:34,142 --> 00:33:35,990 We're seizing this under forfeiture laws. 626 00:33:36,014 --> 00:33:37,861 You'll have a chance to account for it later. 627 00:33:37,885 --> 00:33:40,907 That's some bullshit. Appreciate it, fellas. 628 00:33:40,931 --> 00:33:42,498 Y'all get home safe, all right? 629 00:33:43,543 --> 00:33:44,674 You left after that? 630 00:33:46,633 --> 00:33:49,003 Jenkins wasn't done. 631 00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:51,029 Man, this a nice-ass crib, man. 632 00:33:51,986 --> 00:33:53,790 I tell you. 633 00:33:53,814 --> 00:33:57,035 That what you call it? This your crib, hmm? 634 00:33:57,948 --> 00:33:59,926 God damn. 635 00:33:59,950 --> 00:34:02,605 This was a long-ass drive, man, so we gonna need something. 636 00:34:05,043 --> 00:34:06,566 Come on, man. Where the drugs at, man? 637 00:34:07,828 --> 00:34:09,980 What, you got one of those safes? 638 00:34:10,004 --> 00:34:12,461 - Ain't no fucking drugs. - Okay, but you do know people, right? 639 00:34:12,485 --> 00:34:14,593 You know drug dealers. Where's your plug, man? 640 00:34:14,617 --> 00:34:16,924 I know you know somebody. Give us a name, baby. 641 00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:19,772 Look, here's the bottom line. 642 00:34:19,796 --> 00:34:21,339 You take care of us, we gonna take care of you, 643 00:34:21,363 --> 00:34:22,973 'cause here's the crazy part... 644 00:34:24,845 --> 00:34:28,805 One morning, you could wake up with ten kilos in the backyard. 645 00:34:31,678 --> 00:34:33,699 You split up the Hamilton money? 646 00:34:33,723 --> 00:34:35,899 Yeah, later that night at a bar. 647 00:34:37,597 --> 00:34:39,705 When Gondo went back to the bedroom for the cash, 648 00:34:39,729 --> 00:34:43,622 there was the 50, and then there was the loose 20,000. 649 00:34:43,646 --> 00:34:47,148 I mean, I had counted more. You know, Hersl must have taken 650 00:34:47,172 --> 00:34:50,107 a few thousand when he was up there alone. 651 00:34:50,131 --> 00:34:51,891 Of course, I lifted the 3,500 off 652 00:34:51,915 --> 00:34:54,111 of Hamilton when we pulled him over... 653 00:34:54,135 --> 00:34:55,678 What I'm sayin' is, 654 00:34:55,702 --> 00:34:57,549 we weren't just stealing, all right? 655 00:34:57,573 --> 00:34:58,922 We were stealing from each other. 656 00:35:00,750 --> 00:35:04,904 Jenkins more than most, though. At that point in time, 657 00:35:04,928 --> 00:35:07,733 we was all in it for ourselves, to be honest. 658 00:35:07,757 --> 00:35:12,477 But all this while you knew we were looking at you. 659 00:35:12,501 --> 00:35:15,113 You knew there was a federal investigation. 660 00:35:19,595 --> 00:35:22,705 Oh, my God, Keisha, last night. 661 00:35:22,729 --> 00:35:26,448 Whoo! This girl got a big old ass. 662 00:35:26,472 --> 00:35:30,408 I call her Bonanza, 'cause she got them wide open spaces. 663 00:35:30,432 --> 00:35:33,063 What the fuck is Bonanza? 664 00:35:33,087 --> 00:35:35,544 Like some show out west, B, I don't know. 665 00:35:35,568 --> 00:35:37,198 My father used to watch that shit. 666 00:35:37,222 --> 00:35:43,073 Yeah, bet. Look, women gonna get you in trouble. 667 00:35:43,097 --> 00:35:47,904 The females is just... You know, who needs an extra complication? 668 00:35:47,928 --> 00:35:50,298 You know the big boys are looking at us. 669 00:35:50,322 --> 00:35:53,475 "Looking at us"? They looking at you. 670 00:35:53,499 --> 00:35:55,303 Jenks said that we was under investigation, 671 00:35:55,327 --> 00:35:56,913 and you in particular. 672 00:35:56,937 --> 00:35:58,349 The way you be flashing money, 673 00:35:58,373 --> 00:36:00,308 you could be the biggest drug dealer 674 00:36:00,332 --> 00:36:02,266 - in the whole God damn department. - Fuck you, man. 675 00:36:02,290 --> 00:36:03,920 - Look. - That's some bullshit. 676 00:36:03,944 --> 00:36:06,314 Look, look, if it is the feds who are on this, 677 00:36:06,338 --> 00:36:09,099 - the case could go on for years. - What case? 678 00:36:09,123 --> 00:36:12,581 This ain't no Pablo Escobar. It's the police. 679 00:36:12,605 --> 00:36:14,800 I'm just saying, you doing a lot of flashing of shit, 680 00:36:14,824 --> 00:36:16,889 you know, like, silk... You finished, or you done? 681 00:36:16,913 --> 00:36:18,978 ...silk robes, and... You like the king of Zamunda 682 00:36:19,002 --> 00:36:20,632 in Anne Arundel County. 683 00:36:20,656 --> 00:36:22,634 If you're gonna get it, you gonna spend it. 684 00:36:22,658 --> 00:36:24,636 We... we in Baltimore. It's not Houston, all right? 685 00:36:24,660 --> 00:36:28,882 Hey, look here. When this shit ends, it ends. 686 00:36:31,537 --> 00:36:32,886 Meantime, we keep bangin'. 687 00:36:36,237 --> 00:36:38,370 Yeah, guess we keep bangin', then. 688 00:36:41,547 --> 00:36:43,525 So, Detective, what you're saying, 689 00:36:43,549 --> 00:36:46,615 everyone in the squad knew they were being investigated. 690 00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:48,878 The way Jenks put it, Ryan Guinn had hipped him 691 00:36:48,902 --> 00:36:51,296 to the fact that y'all were looking into Gondo and Ray am. 692 00:36:53,298 --> 00:36:55,319 Like, Guinn thought Jenkins was clean, 693 00:36:55,343 --> 00:36:58,540 and he was just warning him about Gondo and Ray am. 694 00:36:58,564 --> 00:37:01,107 Still, into the fall of 2016, 695 00:37:01,131 --> 00:37:04,763 the GTTF continued to operate as a rogue unit? 696 00:37:04,787 --> 00:37:06,809 Mm-hmm, until Jenkins went on leave. 697 00:37:06,833 --> 00:37:10,576 And then Jenkins went on leave in October. 698 00:37:11,620 --> 00:37:15,165 Yeah, maternity. Paternity? 699 00:37:15,189 --> 00:37:19,280 - Uh, his... his wife had a baby. - Is Jenkins a family man? 700 00:37:20,673 --> 00:37:22,825 He said. You know, I mean we all went 701 00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:24,827 to titty bars, and watched girls dance, 702 00:37:24,851 --> 00:37:26,394 and stuff, so... 703 00:37:26,418 --> 00:37:27,873 He had stayed married a long time. 704 00:37:27,897 --> 00:37:29,701 He... he met his girl in high school. 705 00:37:29,725 --> 00:37:31,877 And they had a crib out in Middle River 706 00:37:31,901 --> 00:37:33,575 where Wayne grew up. 707 00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:35,446 So, yeah, he took a couple months off 708 00:37:35,470 --> 00:37:38,144 when they had their new kid. 709 00:37:38,168 --> 00:37:41,060 - Singing to him? He loves it. - Yeah. 710 00:37:41,084 --> 00:37:42,627 He had a better day, huh? 711 00:37:42,651 --> 00:37:44,305 Yeah, we went for a walk and everything. 712 00:37:45,872 --> 00:37:47,502 - You gonna come next time? - Yeah. 713 00:37:47,526 --> 00:37:48,962 Jenkins was a proud father. 714 00:37:50,355 --> 00:37:52,052 But he had his other life, too. 715 00:37:53,967 --> 00:37:55,510 - Baby's down. - Hey, baby. 716 00:37:55,534 --> 00:37:57,120 I guess I'll make dinner. 717 00:37:57,144 --> 00:37:59,078 You okay if we just boil some pasta tonight? 718 00:37:59,102 --> 00:38:02,256 - Baby, you so pretty. - Yeah, gorgeous. 719 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,649 Make whatever you want as long as I get to kiss you later. 720 00:38:04,673 --> 00:38:07,304 Mm-hmm. You two, downstairs in twenty. 721 00:38:07,328 --> 00:38:09,591 Love you, baby. Love you. 722 00:38:12,638 --> 00:38:13,987 You'll kiss me, won't you? 723 00:38:17,207 --> 00:38:18,881 Jenkins spent time down in Harbor East 724 00:38:18,905 --> 00:38:21,013 on his own... 725 00:38:21,037 --> 00:38:22,300 ...at those fancy hotels there. 726 00:38:25,085 --> 00:38:26,913 He had money, so why not? 727 00:38:29,916 --> 00:38:31,981 Look at you, baby. 728 00:38:32,005 --> 00:38:33,885 He liked those big rooms they had upstairs, too. 729 00:38:35,617 --> 00:38:37,445 He had this one chick on the regular. 730 00:38:39,404 --> 00:38:41,207 Jenkins never really copped to it directly. 731 00:38:41,231 --> 00:38:43,079 You know what they say, 732 00:38:43,103 --> 00:38:45,037 "If it's eatin', it ain't cheating." 733 00:38:45,061 --> 00:38:48,040 - He wasn't a family man exactly. - Oh, fuck! 734 00:38:48,064 --> 00:38:49,607 More like... 735 00:38:49,631 --> 00:38:50,695 - Fuck. Come on. - ...just a man. 736 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,330 Mother... 737 00:38:58,814 --> 00:39:02,751 What happened with Officer Kostoplis? 738 00:39:02,775 --> 00:39:07,799 K-Stop. Um, Jenkins was grooming that boy, 739 00:39:07,823 --> 00:39:12,238 but it didn't go the way he planned. 740 00:39:12,262 --> 00:39:14,371 Quiet tonight. 741 00:39:14,395 --> 00:39:16,678 This cold keeps the natives indoors. 742 00:39:16,702 --> 00:39:19,531 Yeah, tough to make money on a night like this. 743 00:39:22,838 --> 00:39:24,057 All right. This is good. 744 00:39:25,624 --> 00:39:27,582 Cut the engine. 745 00:39:31,194 --> 00:39:33,042 Hey, K-Stop. 746 00:39:33,066 --> 00:39:35,186 Just go on and leave your phone in the van, all right? 747 00:39:42,728 --> 00:39:44,860 Don't worry, Danny's not gonna make out with you, man. 748 00:39:51,606 --> 00:39:52,606 This is good. 749 00:39:55,654 --> 00:39:56,872 What's up? 750 00:39:59,571 --> 00:40:01,897 You've been doing a hell of a job, K-Stop. 751 00:40:01,921 --> 00:40:03,139 - Thank you. - Yeah, man. 752 00:40:04,227 --> 00:40:06,728 I just... I guess, we wanna... 753 00:40:06,752 --> 00:40:09,798 Yeah, we wanna run a little... Little hypothetical by you. 754 00:40:11,147 --> 00:40:13,149 You know, like, a "What if?" Right? 755 00:40:15,151 --> 00:40:17,173 Okay. Yeah. 756 00:40:17,197 --> 00:40:18,609 Say we're on an investigation, 757 00:40:18,633 --> 00:40:20,219 following a big-time drug dealer. 758 00:40:20,243 --> 00:40:22,004 A real fucking monster, right? 759 00:40:22,028 --> 00:40:24,876 We... Yeah, we get wind on where he's keeping his cash. 760 00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:28,837 And then we actually come upon that cash. 761 00:40:28,861 --> 00:40:30,819 It's right there in front of us, and we just... 762 00:40:32,865 --> 00:40:34,040 you know, we take it. 763 00:40:38,174 --> 00:40:39,567 What would you think about that? 764 00:40:46,705 --> 00:40:48,794 I think that's a terrible fucking idea. 765 00:40:50,099 --> 00:40:51,773 Can't have a badge on your chest, 766 00:40:51,797 --> 00:40:53,668 do things like that. We don't do that shit. 767 00:40:56,802 --> 00:40:57,890 We don't. 768 00:41:07,073 --> 00:41:09,312 Hey, man. 769 00:41:09,336 --> 00:41:10,792 - Exactly the answer we're looking for. - There you go. Come on. 770 00:41:10,816 --> 00:41:12,097 Good shit, K-Stop. I like it. 771 00:41:12,121 --> 00:41:14,080 Great. 772 00:41:21,957 --> 00:41:24,022 Let's get something to eat. I wanna go to Matthew's. 773 00:41:24,046 --> 00:41:25,937 You always wanna go there, man. 774 00:41:25,961 --> 00:41:27,635 Yeah, 'cause it's fucking good. 775 00:41:27,659 --> 00:41:29,419 It wasn't too long after that, 776 00:41:29,443 --> 00:41:32,664 Wayne Jenkins transferred K-Stop to a new squad. 777 00:41:34,796 --> 00:41:37,035 Jenkins forgot there was still straight police 778 00:41:37,059 --> 00:41:38,060 on the job. 779 00:41:42,717 --> 00:41:43,717 K-Stop. 780 00:41:48,201 --> 00:41:49,700 These are the attendees? 781 00:41:49,724 --> 00:41:51,528 According to the email we received. 782 00:41:51,552 --> 00:41:54,705 Andre Davis. I know this name, from the Fourth Circuit. 783 00:41:54,729 --> 00:41:56,490 He's been a federal appeals court judge 784 00:41:56,514 --> 00:41:58,361 going back to the Clinton years. 785 00:41:58,385 --> 00:42:01,233 Yeah, I hear that Pugh's gonna make him city solicitor. 786 00:42:01,257 --> 00:42:03,932 Now, my impression is that he'll be on our side. 787 00:42:03,956 --> 00:42:07,152 And the police commissioner, he's gonna be an ally too, 788 00:42:07,176 --> 00:42:08,850 for the most part. 789 00:42:08,874 --> 00:42:10,852 But the two that we have to look out for 790 00:42:10,876 --> 00:42:14,856 are Tisha Edwards and Jim Smith. They both have Mayor Pugh's ear. 791 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,622 - We better get over there. - All right. 792 00:42:18,927 --> 00:42:20,905 I'm ready. 793 00:42:20,929 --> 00:42:22,820 I'm sure you'll understand with all the hustle and bustle 794 00:42:22,844 --> 00:42:24,518 in my first month in office, 795 00:42:24,542 --> 00:42:26,369 I have to study up on this cassette decree. 796 00:42:27,327 --> 00:42:29,131 I've read it, of course, 797 00:42:29,155 --> 00:42:30,872 but I wanna confer with my people about the details. 798 00:42:30,896 --> 00:42:32,351 We do understand, and we appreciate 799 00:42:32,375 --> 00:42:34,397 your attention to this. 800 00:42:34,421 --> 00:42:36,573 But in light of the outcome of the presidential election, 801 00:42:36,597 --> 00:42:38,053 and Trump's impending installation 802 00:42:38,077 --> 00:42:39,794 of Jeff Sessions as attorney general... 803 00:42:39,818 --> 00:42:41,491 Simply put, Sessions is not going to support 804 00:42:41,515 --> 00:42:43,275 any consent decree anywhere. 805 00:42:43,299 --> 00:42:45,582 We need to get this done before Trump is inaugurated 806 00:42:45,606 --> 00:42:47,628 - on January 20th. - I agree. 807 00:42:47,652 --> 00:42:49,455 Due to the unforeseen circumstances 808 00:42:49,479 --> 00:42:52,067 of the national election, time is of the essence. 809 00:42:52,091 --> 00:42:54,504 This is not something to rush. 810 00:42:54,528 --> 00:42:59,117 Of course not, but with my team, Jason and Ganesha, 811 00:42:59,141 --> 00:43:01,163 I can iron out the finer points 812 00:43:01,187 --> 00:43:04,320 of the decree with Nicole, Van it a Gupta, and the DOJ. 813 00:43:05,234 --> 00:43:06,690 We do have concerns. 814 00:43:06,714 --> 00:43:08,431 But let me be clear, Madam Mayor, 815 00:43:08,455 --> 00:43:12,783 I support this initiative. It's not a cure-all, 816 00:43:12,807 --> 00:43:14,655 but it is a tool for reform. 817 00:43:14,679 --> 00:43:17,396 - Mayor Pugh, may I jump in? - Please. 818 00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:20,051 I've looked at what this has cost in other cities. 819 00:43:20,075 --> 00:43:22,358 You're gonna have to hire monitoring teams. 820 00:43:22,382 --> 00:43:24,795 You're gonna have to purchase new equipment, new technologies, 821 00:43:24,819 --> 00:43:27,581 body cameras for all officers on the street. 822 00:43:27,605 --> 00:43:29,495 Are you aware of the expenditure on those items? 823 00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:31,280 The money has to come from somewhere, 824 00:43:31,304 --> 00:43:33,630 or rather, it will be taken from somewhere else. 825 00:43:33,654 --> 00:43:35,893 I'm all for police reform. 826 00:43:35,917 --> 00:43:37,982 But not at the expense of social programs. 827 00:43:38,006 --> 00:43:39,941 I'm especially concerned that this decree 828 00:43:39,965 --> 00:43:42,639 could siphon off funds earmarked for young Black boys 829 00:43:42,663 --> 00:43:44,467 who've been historically marginalized here. 830 00:43:44,491 --> 00:43:46,861 That's right. We can't forget about my babies. 831 00:43:46,885 --> 00:43:50,125 No one's suggesting this is an either-or proposition. 832 00:43:50,149 --> 00:43:52,693 The consent decree is designed to protect citizens, 833 00:43:52,717 --> 00:43:54,651 including those young men you're talking about. 834 00:43:54,675 --> 00:43:58,046 But we can't ignore the expense of it. And, frankly, 835 00:43:58,070 --> 00:43:59,830 a report is not gonna be a cure 836 00:43:59,854 --> 00:44:01,571 for bad leadership within the department, 837 00:44:01,595 --> 00:44:03,573 present company excepted, Chief Davis. 838 00:44:03,597 --> 00:44:05,140 I mean, how many police commissioners 839 00:44:05,164 --> 00:44:06,532 have we had in the last ten years? 840 00:44:06,556 --> 00:44:08,404 Three, four? 841 00:44:08,428 --> 00:44:11,015 You can't keep throwing money at a management problem. 842 00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:13,191 These are dollars that will be better spent 843 00:44:13,215 --> 00:44:16,262 enticing business interest and development in Baltimore. 844 00:44:18,220 --> 00:44:19,763 We have to do something. 845 00:44:19,787 --> 00:44:21,199 Well, I would not in good conscience 846 00:44:21,223 --> 00:44:22,853 recommend to our mayor 847 00:44:22,877 --> 00:44:24,463 that we increase the police budget 848 00:44:24,487 --> 00:44:26,248 to accommodate this decree. 849 00:44:26,272 --> 00:44:28,206 In my opinion, Chief Davis, you're gonna have 850 00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:30,426 to find the money within your existing budget. 851 00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:32,428 And that means making significant cuts 852 00:44:32,452 --> 00:44:35,890 to the department in advance of the decree being implemented. 853 00:44:42,462 --> 00:44:44,440 I wanna know if we're ready. 854 00:44:44,464 --> 00:44:46,877 Well, we can always get more evidence to shore up our case. 855 00:44:46,901 --> 00:44:49,575 I'd really like to see how far up the chain this goes. 856 00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:51,969 We're fighting time here. I'm worried about leaks. 857 00:44:51,993 --> 00:44:54,102 None of the brass know about us. 858 00:44:54,126 --> 00:44:56,452 We've even managed to keep the commissioner out of the loop. 859 00:44:56,476 --> 00:44:58,280 Look, the fact is, we have enough. 860 00:44:58,304 --> 00:45:00,064 We have taped conversations 861 00:45:00,088 --> 00:45:02,023 where the subjects discuss robberies they committed 862 00:45:02,047 --> 00:45:04,939 resulting in the illegal seizure of cash and drugs. 863 00:45:04,963 --> 00:45:06,549 We've recorded jail calls 864 00:45:06,573 --> 00:45:08,159 where the inmates talk about being robbed 865 00:45:08,183 --> 00:45:10,901 of drugs and money by those same subjects. 866 00:45:10,925 --> 00:45:12,947 That's enough for a racketeering conspiracy. 867 00:45:12,971 --> 00:45:14,818 Will the victims testify in court? 868 00:45:14,842 --> 00:45:17,691 Not all of them, no. Some of them don't trust us, 869 00:45:17,715 --> 00:45:21,956 and, to some, snitching on a cop is still snitching. 870 00:45:21,980 --> 00:45:23,479 But we've got a couple of people 871 00:45:23,503 --> 00:45:25,244 that I'm pretty certain will stand up. 872 00:45:26,767 --> 00:45:29,790 - What about wire fraud? - Rock solid. 873 00:45:29,814 --> 00:45:31,661 We have multiple conversations on the wire 874 00:45:31,685 --> 00:45:34,229 with massive overtime theft being discussed. 875 00:45:34,253 --> 00:45:36,535 I've used my departmental access to pull their time cards. 876 00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:38,842 It wasn't just others clocking in for 'em. 877 00:45:38,866 --> 00:45:40,539 Uh, Taylor was pulling OT 878 00:45:40,563 --> 00:45:43,064 when he was in the Dominican Republic. 879 00:45:43,088 --> 00:45:46,067 Jenkins was collecting overtime when he was on... on vacation 880 00:45:46,091 --> 00:45:47,440 with his family in Myrtle Beach. 881 00:45:50,617 --> 00:45:53,509 It's time to go. We're on the indictments. 882 00:45:53,533 --> 00:45:55,293 Uh, you handle the logistics of the arrests 883 00:45:55,317 --> 00:45:57,426 and keep us apprised, and we'll tell 884 00:45:57,450 --> 00:45:59,539 the police commissioner at the last moment. 885 00:46:00,932 --> 00:46:02,648 As for the dog and pony, 886 00:46:02,672 --> 00:46:04,172 the US Attorney will wanna be at the podium. 887 00:46:04,196 --> 00:46:06,174 Rosenstein? 888 00:46:06,198 --> 00:46:07,610 Yeah, he's getting bumped up in the Trump administration, 889 00:46:07,634 --> 00:46:09,636 and this will be a nice send-off for him. 890 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,160 - Okay. - All right. 891 00:46:44,410 --> 00:46:46,412 Wow. 892 00:46:47,979 --> 00:46:52,829 - W... what is that from? - Debussy's "Prélude." 893 00:46:52,853 --> 00:46:56,596 I feel like I heard that in an episode of Star Trek. 894 00:46:58,554 --> 00:47:00,663 You know how to play some, you know, some other stuff? 895 00:47:00,687 --> 00:47:02,534 Classical, mostly. 896 00:47:02,558 --> 00:47:04,319 Like Jethro Tull? "Aqualung," I mean, 897 00:47:04,343 --> 00:47:05,929 that's some classical shit right there, right? 898 00:47:05,953 --> 00:47:08,149 Someday, John, you're gonna surprise me. 899 00:47:08,173 --> 00:47:09,217 Maybe. 900 00:47:10,697 --> 00:47:12,283 You sleep in that shirt? 901 00:47:12,307 --> 00:47:15,243 Uh, I don't think I slept at all. You? 902 00:47:15,267 --> 00:47:17,835 Not much. The details kept me up. 903 00:47:18,836 --> 00:47:21,684 So many things can go wrong. 904 00:47:21,708 --> 00:47:25,253 Your people are monitoring the GPS on their phones, right? 905 00:47:25,277 --> 00:47:26,776 Yeah, as of this morning, 906 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,560 they're all in the Baltimore area. 907 00:47:28,584 --> 00:47:31,259 And they all got their orders to report to IAD? 908 00:47:31,283 --> 00:47:33,285 They all confirmed their appointments. 909 00:47:36,897 --> 00:47:38,614 Jensen. 910 00:47:38,638 --> 00:47:40,834 Hey, he's on the move. Stand by. 911 00:47:40,858 --> 00:47:42,076 Copy that. 912 00:47:45,775 --> 00:47:48,343 Jenkins just left his house. Let's go. 913 00:47:51,651 --> 00:47:53,194 Look at you, Steve. 914 00:47:53,218 --> 00:47:55,370 Getting that good police work in, huh? 915 00:47:55,394 --> 00:47:57,502 You know, committing suicide by cigarette. 916 00:47:57,526 --> 00:48:00,114 Got a date with IAD? Yeah, some nuisance shit. 917 00:48:00,138 --> 00:48:01,226 You know, vehicular. 918 00:48:09,799 --> 00:48:11,734 What's good? What's up, man? 919 00:48:11,758 --> 00:48:12,846 Passed out. 920 00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:35,540 Seven officers from the plainclothes unit 921 00:48:35,564 --> 00:48:38,543 known as the Gun Trace Task Force 922 00:48:38,567 --> 00:48:43,418 have been arrested and charged with racketeering conspiracy 923 00:48:43,442 --> 00:48:45,463 and racketeering-related charges, 924 00:48:45,487 --> 00:48:50,120 including robbery, extortion, and overtime fraud. 925 00:48:50,144 --> 00:48:52,557 These officers have been involved 926 00:48:52,581 --> 00:48:55,560 in a pernicious conspiracy scheme 927 00:48:55,584 --> 00:48:58,413 that included abuse of power. 928 00:49:02,722 --> 00:49:04,482 Commissioner Davis, in light of these arrests, 929 00:49:04,506 --> 00:49:06,397 what are your thoughts on the deeper implications 930 00:49:06,421 --> 00:49:07,422 for the department? 931 00:49:10,251 --> 00:49:14,014 These officers, I have no sympathy for them. 932 00:49:14,038 --> 00:49:17,780 They are like 1930s gangsters as far as I'm concerned. 933 00:49:19,521 --> 00:49:22,587 As for the department, I'll act swiftly and decisively 934 00:49:22,611 --> 00:49:24,720 to address the problem areas. 935 00:49:24,744 --> 00:49:27,331 I'll immediately disband select plainclothes units 936 00:49:27,355 --> 00:49:31,185 and order those officers back into uniformed patrol. 937 00:49:32,839 --> 00:49:35,973 This is the absolute, final dismantling of VCID. 938 00:49:38,714 --> 00:49:41,258 Officers Gondo, Hendrix, Hersl, 939 00:49:41,282 --> 00:49:43,957 Jenkins, Ray am, Taylor, and Ward 940 00:49:43,981 --> 00:49:46,611 are now in FBI custody after being arrested 941 00:49:46,635 --> 00:49:49,092 this morning at the Internal Affairs Department 942 00:49:49,116 --> 00:49:50,964 on Kirk Avenue. 943 00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:52,443 Officials say that some of these officers 944 00:49:52,467 --> 00:49:54,576 are named in prior complaints... 945 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,534 - Holy shit. - ...having been previously accused 946 00:49:56,558 --> 00:49:58,449 of using excessive force or of other wrongdoing. 947 00:49:58,473 --> 00:50:00,147 In fact... Hey, Sean. 948 00:50:00,171 --> 00:50:01,757 You used to work with Jenkins, didn't you? 949 00:50:01,781 --> 00:50:03,541 ...in settlements 950 00:50:03,565 --> 00:50:05,065 related to the actions of some of these officers. 951 00:50:05,089 --> 00:50:07,197 What was that guy like? 952 00:50:07,221 --> 00:50:08,242 A long-time public defender we spoke with 953 00:50:08,266 --> 00:50:09,266 had this to say... 954 00:50:12,487 --> 00:50:14,248 ...accountability issues 955 00:50:14,272 --> 00:50:16,119 for many years. We have worked tirelessly 956 00:50:16,143 --> 00:50:18,078 to highlight the issues on the force, 957 00:50:18,102 --> 00:50:21,037 but much of our efforts were ignored by the department. 958 00:50:21,061 --> 00:50:23,126 What message does that send to the criticism... 959 00:50:23,150 --> 00:50:24,867 You all right, man? 960 00:50:24,891 --> 00:50:27,826 Yeah, I... I just gotta hit the head. 961 00:50:27,850 --> 00:50:29,654 - ...last year, Commissioner Davis praised... - This is some fucked up shit. 962 00:50:29,678 --> 00:50:31,961 ...the Gun Trace unit in a departmental newsletter. 963 00:50:31,985 --> 00:50:33,963 Sergeant Wayne Jenkins was to be seen 964 00:50:33,987 --> 00:50:35,467 as an example for getting guns... 965 00:50:37,164 --> 00:50:38,707 The Gun Trace Task Force made 966 00:50:38,731 --> 00:50:42,058 more than 110 gun arrests in 2016. 967 00:50:42,082 --> 00:50:44,650 Here's Davis responding at the briefing earlier today. 968 00:50:50,525 --> 00:50:52,199 Why don't you do me a favor, man? 969 00:50:52,223 --> 00:50:54,070 Just go and toss the car one more time, 970 00:50:54,094 --> 00:50:55,574 you know, in case we missed something. 971 00:50:58,533 --> 00:51:00,294 Man, you fucking planted that shit. 972 00:51:00,318 --> 00:51:02,102 Get off me, man! Y'all cruddy as hell! 973 00:51:07,151 --> 00:51:09,520 Man, you got it now, dawg. 974 00:51:09,544 --> 00:51:11,372 That was some serious police work, man. 975 00:51:14,245 --> 00:51:16,527 ...to describe this rogue plainclothes unit 976 00:51:16,551 --> 00:51:19,095 of the Baltimore Police Department. 977 00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:20,575 Danny Hersl. These brazen officers allegedly... 978 00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:22,316 Our poster boy got caught up in this. 979 00:51:22,340 --> 00:51:24,057 ...robbing them 980 00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:25,797 of large quantities of cash and guns. 981 00:51:25,821 --> 00:51:27,519 The defendants are accused of racketeering. 982 00:52:03,337 --> 00:52:05,054 The way I was raised, there wasn't any way 983 00:52:05,078 --> 00:52:07,230 I wasn't gonna be a lawyer. 984 00:52:07,254 --> 00:52:08,884 Oh, I know how that works. 985 00:52:08,908 --> 00:52:10,190 Your father was a... He was a judge, right? 986 00:52:10,214 --> 00:52:12,235 US District Court. 987 00:52:12,259 --> 00:52:15,108 So, I guess it was preordained that you would go into law. 988 00:52:15,132 --> 00:52:16,761 I have a sibling named James, 989 00:52:16,785 --> 00:52:18,850 and he had no interest in going to college. 990 00:52:18,874 --> 00:52:21,636 So, someone in our house was going to law school. 991 00:52:21,660 --> 00:52:23,159 Fell on me. 992 00:52:23,183 --> 00:52:24,813 Got it. 993 00:52:24,837 --> 00:52:27,100 But I... I made a wrong turn for a while. 994 00:52:27,622 --> 00:52:29,513 How so? 995 00:52:29,537 --> 00:52:32,168 Well, early on, I was a Trial Team AUSA in DC, 996 00:52:32,192 --> 00:52:34,281 prosecuting mostly drug cases. 997 00:52:35,152 --> 00:52:37,371 And it got to me. 998 00:52:38,503 --> 00:52:40,263 Day in, day out, in courtrooms, 999 00:52:40,287 --> 00:52:41,767 sending young Black men to prison. 1000 00:52:43,551 --> 00:52:45,399 But, I guess, I needed to go through that 1001 00:52:45,423 --> 00:52:47,543 to make the next step and pivot to Civil Rights, so... 1002 00:52:48,252 --> 00:52:49,881 You grew up in DC? 1003 00:52:49,905 --> 00:52:51,666 Uh, outside the city. Bethesda. 1004 00:52:51,690 --> 00:52:54,669 - It's, uh, high-income, mostly White. - Mm-hmm. 1005 00:52:54,693 --> 00:52:57,696 You know, not a very diverse area to say the least. 1006 00:52:59,306 --> 00:53:01,371 My parents knew we'd lose 1007 00:53:01,395 --> 00:53:03,286 a little something growing up there, 1008 00:53:03,310 --> 00:53:05,723 but they figured the benefits outweighed the bad, 1009 00:53:05,747 --> 00:53:07,358 and they were right. 1010 00:53:08,402 --> 00:53:10,056 I have been very fortunate. 1011 00:53:11,362 --> 00:53:12,667 And my kid brother... 1012 00:53:14,016 --> 00:53:16,323 he got it a lot worse than I ever did. 1013 00:53:17,194 --> 00:53:18,954 He's a tile man. 1014 00:53:18,978 --> 00:53:20,782 He does high-end bathrooms. A real craftsman. 1015 00:53:20,806 --> 00:53:22,436 So, you know, he has his hair braided. 1016 00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:25,090 He wears workman's clothes, jeans, hoodies. 1017 00:53:25,114 --> 00:53:26,483 When he was in his teens, 1018 00:53:26,507 --> 00:53:28,398 he'd be standing outside our house, 1019 00:53:28,422 --> 00:53:30,792 and this happened more than once, 1020 00:53:30,816 --> 00:53:33,751 the Montgomery County Police would stop and ask him, 1021 00:53:33,775 --> 00:53:35,927 "What are you doing here?" 1022 00:53:35,951 --> 00:53:38,495 He'd point back at the house that we grew up in, 1023 00:53:38,519 --> 00:53:39,912 and he'd say, "I live here." 1024 00:53:42,393 --> 00:53:44,003 They couldn't see a Bethesda kid. 1025 00:53:45,787 --> 00:53:48,107 When they looked at James, all they could see was a nigger. 1026 00:53:51,967 --> 00:53:54,163 Yeah. 1027 00:53:54,187 --> 00:53:56,557 - Yeah, I get that. - One time, he was coming home from work, 1028 00:53:56,581 --> 00:53:58,428 driving down our street, 1029 00:53:58,452 --> 00:54:01,281 and a couple cop cars followed him into our driveway. 1030 00:54:02,369 --> 00:54:03,999 When James got out of the car, 1031 00:54:04,023 --> 00:54:05,914 I don't know, maybe he got out too fast, 1032 00:54:05,938 --> 00:54:07,698 but they cuffed him. 1033 00:54:07,722 --> 00:54:09,700 Said that he made a threatening move. 1034 00:54:09,724 --> 00:54:12,573 And on the report, to justify the stop, they lied. 1035 00:54:12,597 --> 00:54:15,010 They said that he was speeding down our street. 1036 00:54:15,034 --> 00:54:18,579 All he was saying was, "Why are you doing me like this? 1037 00:54:18,603 --> 00:54:21,495 I just worked a 12-hour day, and all I was doing 1038 00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:23,260 was driving to my house." 1039 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,023 I came outside, and so did my father. 1040 00:54:28,047 --> 00:54:30,721 And there was a Black cop, and he wouldn't answer 1041 00:54:30,745 --> 00:54:32,897 any of our questions. And the other cop, 1042 00:54:32,921 --> 00:54:34,521 the one who cuffed him, the White dude... 1043 00:54:36,229 --> 00:54:37,448 he threatened my dad. 1044 00:54:38,623 --> 00:54:40,253 And it was all for nothing. 1045 00:54:40,277 --> 00:54:41,756 None of the cops showed up in court. 1046 00:54:44,063 --> 00:54:45,282 The damage was done. 1047 00:54:47,980 --> 00:54:49,024 Where's your brother now? 1048 00:54:50,635 --> 00:54:53,855 After that last incident, he moved to Atlanta. 1049 00:54:56,467 --> 00:54:58,662 I don't hate the police, but it's fair to say 1050 00:54:58,686 --> 00:55:01,298 that my brother has no love for them at all, 1051 00:55:01,994 --> 00:55:02,995 and never will. 1052 00:55:06,912 --> 00:55:09,760 I don't know if what we're doing is gonna change a thing, Ahmed, 1053 00:55:09,784 --> 00:55:10,829 but shit... 1054 00:55:17,618 --> 00:55:18,706 You ready for another? 1055 00:55:20,142 --> 00:55:22,667 I'm gonna go home. We have work to do. 81305

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