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Penelope: Did you see the first
decline when it came out?
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Man: Yeah. Not when it came...
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I didn't see it
right when it came out...
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Penelope: How old were you
right when it came out?
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I wasn't born yet.
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I got born in 80.
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Penelope: [Laughing] And the world
hasn't been the same since.
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Nuh-uh.
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Penelope: How is punk rock
different now
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than it was in 1979?
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I don't think it is.
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I think it's the same.
It's just...
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I think it's smaller.
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But, it's more...
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People are more into it
more often, but...
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A lot of people don't
like really give a shit.
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They're just like...
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[Mockingly] I've got a mohawk.
Let's go out.
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And they go home,
get a job and all that stuff.
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Penelope: So if you're really
a punk, you don't have a job?
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No, I'm not saying that.
I'm saying get a job if you can,
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but I'm just saying
some people, they're just...
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It's just like a hobby.
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Penelope: How old were you
when it first came out?
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I wasn't even born.
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I was zero.
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I wasn't born yet.
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Penelope: How old were you when
the first decline came out?
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A sperm cell in
his father's testicle.
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I was one and a half.
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I was zero.
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I was just born but I own it.
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I was an abortion that
couldn't get paid for.
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We're sorry, buddy, we're sorry.
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- I came here to see offspring.
- We came to see green day.
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- [All talking]
- Man: No!
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Man: Hey, green day!
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Hey, you know what?
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I know a guy that can suck
an ice through his nose...
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Woman: Suck! Suck! Suck!
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[Snorts]
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[All cheering]
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[Cheering]
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Eyeball: Ok, listen you maggots,
listen up here.
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- Attention!
- Attention!
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- Attention!
- Attention, butt-holes!
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- Please be advised...
- Please be advised...
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That by your entry
into these premises...
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By your entry
into these premises...
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More spit, more spit!
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All: More spit, more spit...
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You are consenting
to be photographed.
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You are consenting
to be photographed.
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Yeah!
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- And to having your likeness...
- And having your likeness...
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Your fucked up likeness...
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- Used in a motion picture.
- Used in a motion picture.
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For pornographic purposes!
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[Cheering]
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- And for other purposes!
- Other purposes.
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- Thank you!
- Fuck you.
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Man: Fuck you!
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Your spit
is greatly appreciated.
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Man: The next
decline is coming up...
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And if you guys wanna be in it,
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fuck shit up out there
in the crowd tonight.
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Check! Two! Check!
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One! Two! Insurance check!
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- Check!
- What's up, homies?
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Checking once!
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Man announcing on mic:
You've got five minutes!
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Man: All right! Next time
throw money, dickwad.
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[Punk rock music playing]
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[Singing indistinctly]
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Penelope: Tell me your name and
tell me how you got that name.
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Squid. And how I got the name?
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Oh, well, uh...
It's kind of a tick up wall!
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I drink like a squid.
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Uh... my name's filth and...
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I really am not
sure how I got it,
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probably because
I'm like, dirty!
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Well, my name's spinner and I
got it when I was 13 because...
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I used to do a lot of speed
and I was always spun out.
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Penelope: So, what's your name?
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Me? "Why me?"
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Ilspoon'i
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- "little Tommy, the queer."
- Penelope: Okay, all right!
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- I'm troll.
- And I'm hamburger.
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Or Mr. Potatohead!
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- My name's Nate and I'm 15.
- I'm Justin. I'm 16.
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- My name's herk.
- My name's sage.
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My name is pinwheel.
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My name is Keith Morris
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and I was the original
lead singer in black flag.
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And went on to start a fabulous
band called the circle jerks.
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- Beverly Hills!
- Beverly Hills.
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- Century city!
- Century city.
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Everthing's nice and pretty!
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All the people look the same.
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Don't they know they're
so damn lame.
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Don't they know
they're fucking lame?
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Penelope: What was it
like back then?
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Well, there was a lot of energy,
there was a lot of anger.
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It wasn't like it is today where
you could go out
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on any corner and see punk
rock people hanging out.
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Keith: I was a complete waste.
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That was the reason why
I was able to get away with
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a lot of the things that
I got away with.
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Tonight!
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Does it make any difference
to you that you never,
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like, became the big
huge rockstar?
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Never wanted to be a rockstar.
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I'm a rockstar!
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The kids now...
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Have even more reasons
to be angry and upset.
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Our society kind of almost
pushes them in that direction.
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They're basically trapped.
They're cornered, and they've
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gotta fight their way
out of these corners.
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There's more people.
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And because there's more people,
there's more crime.
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There's more corruption.
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There's just more
bullshit in general.
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We have the
Republicans that keep
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stressing this family
values thing and
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those fuckers can more
than afford to have, you know,
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adhere to the family
values thing because
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they're out there
ripping off the public,
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they've got the money to spend.
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Penelope: The world's
gotten uglier over the
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past few years instead
of prettier.
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Well, it certainly hasn't
got any more beautiful.
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But then the punk rock thing
was never a beautiful thing.
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Penelope: Describe to me
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what it was like in the
original punk rock days.
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It was just...
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Absolutely great, you know.
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It was really free, really
different, really radical,
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true to itself,
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didn't have any idols...
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A lot of, a lot of anger that
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wasn't really vented at
any particular thing,
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just at everything.
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Punk rock, if you will,
is the siren
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for all the problems we're
having now in our society.
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And it's shrieking.
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[H.a.n.k. Playing]
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God to me is
a corpse on a cross.
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Been dead forever
and still the boss
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god to me are his fucking sheep
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told when to laugh
and when to weep
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god to me is disease of aids
all the children sent to graves
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I see god in a Nazi parade
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what in the hell is inri?
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What is i-x-o-y-e?
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Goddamn fucking shit, my lord
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you don't mean nothing to me
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have no use for religion
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it has no use for me
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[singing indistinctly]
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I see god in a Nazi parade
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what in the hell is inri?
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What is i-x-o-y-e?
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Goddamn fucking shit, my lord
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you don't mean nothing to me
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why is it a sin to murder?
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Carnage is all I see
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have no use for religion
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it has no use for me
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[cheering]
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Penelope: Tell me what you think is
most fucked up about the world?
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Everything sucks!
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- Penelope: In what ways?
- In every which way possible.
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None of it works.
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Environment, the government...
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Everything, our
school systems...
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They just pretty
much ruined everything.
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Penelope: What do you hate
the most in the world?
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How people hate each other
for no reason.
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You know, everybody
just judging people
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by their fronts, you know.
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It's not liking someone
'cause they're black
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or Mexican or whatever.
People are people.
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I mean, I may look
intimidating to other people
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just because of my hairdo or
the way I dress or whatever.
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But you know what?
You don't know who I am.
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And meanwhile, the right wing
is organizing with guns,
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bombs, and politicians so...
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We have to stop
fighting each other
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and start fighting the real
enemy which is big business
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and the right wing.
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We have to get together and
unite against them and revolt!
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[Punk rock music playing]
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Penelope: How long you been having
punk rock at your theater?
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Nine years.
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Penelope: You've had
nine years of punk rock?
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- Correct, since '88.
- Penelope: And you survived?
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Almost there.
Look at the gray hair.
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[Punk rock music playing]
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As soon as the music starts,
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something ticks these people,
you know,
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they'll be moving like crazy,
jumping everywhere, and...
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[Punk rock music playing]
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Hell, yeah! Chaos!
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You know, it doesn't look like a
dance, like me and you.
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[Punk rock music playing]
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Usually, you know, they're so
proud to see the blood and...
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When they bleed, they don't
want to even clean them up.
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They just leave it like,
"this is a scar! I like that!"
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โLeave it alone!"
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- Penelope: A badge of courage!
- Oh, yeah!
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Penelope: Tell me
all the times you got hurt.
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I broke my nose three times,
that's about it.
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Say, it's not very violent,
it's just dancing sometimes,
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you fall down.
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Yeah, if you're trying to stop
the dance and the moshing,
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you're just asking for trouble.
You will have a problem.
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Actually, we will find out
just to leave him alone,
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they know the rules of the
moshing, and just doing their thing,
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and no trouble happens.
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Penelope: They get political
sometimes, yeah?
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There is a couple of groups
or the... which we call them...
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New skinheads, which is the...
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Group which is called
unity of sharp.
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They call themselves unity,
but, they're full of shit.
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Penelope: Are they
white supremacists?
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- No.
- What are they?
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They're sharp skins.
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Penelope: What does
'sharp' stand for?
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Uh... skinhead against re...
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Racial prejudice, yes.
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Skinheads against
racial prejudice,
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which is great but
they're turning into a gang
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and fuckin' up punks at shows!
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Both of them are bad,
really, because
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the Nazi skinheads coming here
to beat on the Mexicans or black
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or whatever minority.
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Nazi skinheads
come all the time.
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I hate Nazis.
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I just don't
believe in that shit.
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I'm half phillippino
and these Mexicans...
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Were going, "why you got that
fucked up haircut, white boy?"
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I've been to a kkk rally
in Austin, Texas and got
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arrested for, for trying
to fight this klansman that was
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telling me to swim back to China
and I'm not even Chinese.
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But the other one, they go
in inside sniffing around...
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For any Nazi for anybody who
had a little lace, red lace,
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or, you know, different
kind of shoes, whatever...
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So they start asking questions,
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"oh, you're Nazi! Okay,
I'm gonna beat you up!"
250
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I got jumped by a
bunch of skinheads.
251
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When they fight,
they don't fight fair.
252
00:12:05,851 --> 00:12:08,896
They fight one against...
I mean, 20 against one guy!
253
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They're really a bunch of sissy
faggots, they'll run off and...
254
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Be scared usually 'cause
there's usually more of us.
255
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They kept kicking my face
into a door of a car.
256
00:12:18,989 --> 00:12:21,408
And they surround one guy and
beat him up to death, you know,
257
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Penelope: What happened
to your jaw?
258
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It was broken here and here.
259
00:12:25,495 --> 00:12:28,665
And I had to get it wired
for eight weeks.
260
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So, we won't allow either party,
if they come in here,
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they have to follow our rules,
which is very simple.
262
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No politics.
263
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Penelope: When you go home
at night, do you listen to this?
264
00:12:38,091 --> 00:12:39,676
Oh, no, no. [Chuckles]
265
00:12:39,843 --> 00:12:43,597
I listen to frank Sinatra,
Tony Perez, Louis Armstrong...
266
00:12:43,764 --> 00:12:46,350
I have nothing to do with this!
Strictly business!
267
00:12:46,516 --> 00:12:49,019
I can eat food now,
so I'm happy! [Laughs]
268
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I don't have to puke
through a fucking wired jaw.
269
00:12:52,648 --> 00:12:54,775
It comes all out like a
sprinkler when I did!
270
00:12:55,817 --> 00:12:58,320
Man: This next one,
goes out to...
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One of the most
oppressive forces...
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Oppressor of women,
oppressor of gays,
273
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basically an oppressor
of all free thought.
274
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I'm not talking
about a politician,
275
00:13:09,539 --> 00:13:11,333
I'm talking about
organized religion.
276
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People who fucking abuse
other people's faith for money.
277
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[Punk rock music playing]
278
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Forgive me, father,
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for I have sinned.
280
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[Music continues]
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Penelope: How the hell did you get
to be a punk rocker, you think?
282
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Because I'm angry.
283
00:14:39,838 --> 00:14:42,841
'Cause people don't like me,
'cause I don't fit in.
284
00:14:43,008 --> 00:14:44,843
'Cause I'm a fuckin' nerd.
285
00:14:45,010 --> 00:14:47,095
All my life,
I've always felt, like,
286
00:14:47,262 --> 00:14:48,847
separate from everybody else.
287
00:14:49,014 --> 00:14:50,098
Like I couldn't hang.
288
00:14:50,265 --> 00:14:52,243
Penelope: Tell me what you think
made you a punker,
289
00:14:52,267 --> 00:14:53,560
like, in your background?
290
00:14:53,727 --> 00:14:54,978
Not really having a family.
291
00:14:55,896 --> 00:14:57,814
- Penelope: That made you tough?
- Yeah.
292
00:14:59,483 --> 00:15:01,603
Penelope: Punks don't get their
feelings hurt so easy?
293
00:15:02,361 --> 00:15:04,613
I think they do,
they just cover it up
294
00:15:04,780 --> 00:15:06,573
with spikes and color and shit.
295
00:15:06,740 --> 00:15:09,910
It's not about the way you
look, it's not about, y'know...
296
00:15:10,786 --> 00:15:13,622
Anything like that, where
you're from or like that.
297
00:15:13,789 --> 00:15:15,832
It's all about how
you live your life.
298
00:15:16,041 --> 00:15:17,250
I don't have a lot of friends,
299
00:15:17,417 --> 00:15:19,270
I don't choose to hang
around with a lot of people.
300
00:15:19,294 --> 00:15:21,922
I don't mix well with people,
I just like to be alone and read.
301
00:15:22,089 --> 00:15:24,591
I found just a tight
group of friends,
302
00:15:24,758 --> 00:15:26,402
there are like three or four
of them that I can
303
00:15:26,426 --> 00:15:28,196
actually hang out with.
They're all just like me.
304
00:15:28,220 --> 00:15:30,055
They all have the same
feelings of rejection.
305
00:15:30,222 --> 00:15:31,223
I guess being a punk,
306
00:15:32,265 --> 00:15:34,309
to me, it's not really about
307
00:15:34,476 --> 00:15:35,977
what you are,
but what you are not.
308
00:15:37,229 --> 00:15:38,909
Do you know what I mean by that?
I'm not...
309
00:15:38,980 --> 00:15:40,100
Penelope: What are they not?
310
00:15:40,982 --> 00:15:44,569
We're not... we're not...
I tend to think, I tend to hope,
311
00:15:44,736 --> 00:15:48,657
we're not all selfish, all
committed to simply ourselves,
312
00:15:48,824 --> 00:15:49,991
but, you know, we like to
313
00:15:50,242 --> 00:15:53,328
give to each other and I
don't see that a lot, you know,
314
00:15:53,495 --> 00:15:57,958
in a capitalistic society or
just a real structured society.
315
00:15:58,125 --> 00:16:00,565
I think punks are probably the
nicest people you'll ever meet,
316
00:16:00,627 --> 00:16:01,867
at least that's what I've seen.
317
00:16:02,003 --> 00:16:04,043
Penelope: You seem like
you have a good heart to me.
318
00:16:04,089 --> 00:16:05,132
I try.
319
00:16:05,507 --> 00:16:07,926
The whole thing has,
like, adopted me.
320
00:16:08,552 --> 00:16:10,971
I could go across the state,
anywhere I want to.
321
00:16:11,138 --> 00:16:12,889
And I'm welcome.
322
00:16:13,056 --> 00:16:14,474
These are the kids that
I live with.
323
00:16:14,641 --> 00:16:18,019
They're my family, they're
my support, they're my love,
324
00:16:18,186 --> 00:16:19,563
they're everything.
325
00:16:20,355 --> 00:16:24,776
Anyone, besides punk rockers,
I do not socialize with.
326
00:16:25,986 --> 00:16:27,112
[Singing]
327
00:17:10,489 --> 00:17:11,490
Sing it!
328
00:17:11,656 --> 00:17:13,658
[Woman shouting]
329
00:17:15,994 --> 00:17:17,346
Penelope: What pisses
you off the most?
330
00:17:17,370 --> 00:17:20,081
Cops. I hate 'em.
331
00:17:20,248 --> 00:17:21,917
We represent everything
they're against.
332
00:17:22,083 --> 00:17:23,363
Penelope: What do you represent?
333
00:17:23,668 --> 00:17:26,087
Pretty much,
doing what we want to do.
334
00:17:26,379 --> 00:17:28,924
The unique thing about them
is they dress all different.
335
00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:32,385
There's not one set of dress the
way the punk rockers dress.
336
00:17:32,552 --> 00:17:33,929
But one thing is unique,
337
00:17:34,095 --> 00:17:36,014
that whatever it is,
how they dress is
338
00:17:36,181 --> 00:17:37,891
gonna be something
that catches your eye.
339
00:17:38,058 --> 00:17:40,060
- Penelope: Who made your jacket?
- Me.
340
00:17:41,603 --> 00:17:42,923
Penelope: How long did that take?
341
00:17:43,230 --> 00:17:44,397
Couple of years.
342
00:17:44,564 --> 00:17:45,857
That's what they're looking for,
343
00:17:46,024 --> 00:17:48,485
the attention they haven't had
when they were growing up.
344
00:17:48,652 --> 00:17:52,072
That's with the hair sticking
up, maybe their mohawk
345
00:17:52,239 --> 00:17:53,990
with the red color or
the purple coloring,
346
00:17:54,157 --> 00:17:57,327
the nose piercing, all the
different piercing, the tattoos.
347
00:17:57,494 --> 00:18:00,539
I was drunk but someone
stuffed it through my nose.
348
00:18:00,705 --> 00:18:04,167
I had the m put on
in Prescott, Arizona...
349
00:18:05,043 --> 00:18:06,211
The year before last
350
00:18:06,378 --> 00:18:09,339
and the dots done
in Seattle last year.
351
00:18:09,506 --> 00:18:12,551
The leather, the chains,
things like that...
352
00:18:12,717 --> 00:18:15,220
Me and you would not
wear it in the norm,
353
00:18:15,387 --> 00:18:17,668
but when we're driving down
the streets, we turn and look,
354
00:18:17,764 --> 00:18:19,575
it's something that definitely
catches our attention.
355
00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:22,352
- It's a rib bone off a dog.
- Penelope: A rib bone?
356
00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:23,799
Yeah, like a puppy or something.
357
00:18:23,937 --> 00:18:25,623
I'd like to say that all
police officers have
358
00:18:25,647 --> 00:18:27,399
seen everything,
but that's not the case.
359
00:18:27,566 --> 00:18:29,609
And everyday, we see
something different, and...
360
00:18:29,776 --> 00:18:32,862
They definitely are able to
open our eyes sometimes.
361
00:18:33,071 --> 00:18:34,656
Penelope: What have
you got in your ear?
362
00:18:35,156 --> 00:18:37,367
- It's a pen tube.
- Penelope: What's that?
363
00:18:37,534 --> 00:18:39,411
- Penelope: A what?
- Pen tube.
364
00:18:39,578 --> 00:18:41,037
- Stuck in your ear?
- Yeah, it's...
365
00:18:41,913 --> 00:18:43,313
Penelope: Is there a hole that big?
366
00:18:44,374 --> 00:18:47,919
Yeah, it's really not even big.
You used to see all the...
367
00:18:48,628 --> 00:18:51,631
My friend Ted's got
big old plugs like this.
368
00:18:52,173 --> 00:18:53,717
I've seen a guy on Melrose,
369
00:18:53,883 --> 00:18:55,969
he had like soda pop cans
370
00:18:56,136 --> 00:18:58,221
- stuck in there...
- Penelope: In the earlobes?
371
00:18:58,388 --> 00:19:00,988
This is big enough for me because
I think when it gets that big...
372
00:19:01,975 --> 00:19:03,476
Dude, that's so ugly.
373
00:19:03,643 --> 00:19:05,353
Who can do the craziest thing,
374
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,105
who can do the most
outrageous thing,
375
00:19:07,272 --> 00:19:08,472
so just somebody notices them.
376
00:19:08,857 --> 00:19:11,109
Penelope: What's your
tattoos on the hand say?
377
00:19:11,735 --> 00:19:12,819
"Taco bell"
378
00:19:14,029 --> 00:19:15,071
[smirks]
379
00:19:15,405 --> 00:19:17,365
Penelope: Do you ever
make fun of them?
380
00:19:17,907 --> 00:19:20,160
[Exhales]
381
00:19:20,327 --> 00:19:22,787
No, I don't think it's so
much making fun except
382
00:19:22,954 --> 00:19:24,998
maybe trying to understand...
383
00:19:25,165 --> 00:19:27,751
Their point of view and
where they come from.
384
00:19:27,917 --> 00:19:30,545
We just like to be to be treated
with respect like everybody else
385
00:19:30,712 --> 00:19:32,631
and they don't
seem to give us that.
386
00:19:32,797 --> 00:19:34,841
Well, if somebody tries
to tell us something,
387
00:19:35,008 --> 00:19:38,428
we'll take it into mind but if
they try to force it on us,
388
00:19:38,595 --> 00:19:40,513
we'll fight back even more.
389
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,991
When I'm in trouble
with the police,
390
00:19:42,015 --> 00:19:43,284
it's because of
something I did...
391
00:19:43,308 --> 00:19:44,434
Wrong, usually.
392
00:19:45,185 --> 00:19:47,562
Not because... not because
they're just fucking with me.
393
00:19:49,314 --> 00:19:52,567
We sometimes come across
them at underground parties,
394
00:19:52,734 --> 00:19:55,528
in terms of where they'll rent
a warehouse or
395
00:19:55,695 --> 00:19:56,964
rent something out
in a basement,
396
00:19:56,988 --> 00:19:58,215
and they'll pack in
the people and
397
00:19:58,239 --> 00:19:59,800
then we'll get a phone
call from the neighbors,
398
00:19:59,824 --> 00:20:02,064
or the fire marshals that want
to shut these people down.
399
00:20:02,202 --> 00:20:03,202
There'll be about
400
00:20:03,286 --> 00:20:06,039
a hundred punks getting
drunk outside the show.
401
00:20:06,206 --> 00:20:07,207
Cops will come...
402
00:20:08,249 --> 00:20:09,793
People will get pissed...
403
00:20:09,959 --> 00:20:13,296
Start throwing beer bottles at
cops, riots start happening and
404
00:20:13,463 --> 00:20:14,547
the place gets shut down.
405
00:20:14,714 --> 00:20:16,466
The type of problems
that we have
406
00:20:16,633 --> 00:20:18,218
with these kids are probably not
407
00:20:18,385 --> 00:20:20,666
as great as some of the other
major problems we have with,
408
00:20:20,804 --> 00:20:23,556
say, gang violence or
robberies or things like that.
409
00:20:23,723 --> 00:20:26,059
Don't they got some kind of
rapist to bust or something?
410
00:20:26,226 --> 00:20:28,287
We're just trying to get
out there and trying to get them
411
00:20:28,311 --> 00:20:30,647
back in touch with their parents
or with people that,
412
00:20:30,814 --> 00:20:32,899
you know, have legal
guardianship over them.
413
00:20:33,066 --> 00:20:34,818
Penelope: Do your parents
like your hairdo?
414
00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:37,612
Ii no-
415
00:20:38,071 --> 00:20:39,322
- Penelope: Excuse me?
- No.
416
00:20:40,115 --> 00:20:43,451
I've also come in contact
with kids that are like this
417
00:20:43,618 --> 00:20:45,453
that have very loving
and caring homes.
418
00:20:45,620 --> 00:20:48,832
And, you know,
in that situation, their...
419
00:20:48,998 --> 00:20:51,584
Son or daughter goes
out on a Friday night
420
00:20:51,751 --> 00:20:53,920
and then comes home
with an earring
421
00:20:54,087 --> 00:20:55,773
or comes home with their
hair colored and stuff,
422
00:20:55,797 --> 00:20:57,024
and their parents are looking...
423
00:20:57,048 --> 00:20:59,110
Sometimes, they turn to
the police, looking for help...
424
00:20:59,134 --> 00:21:03,179
Johnny, you said you were
going to the menudo concert!
425
00:21:04,305 --> 00:21:05,783
Penelope: What did
your parents think of
426
00:21:05,807 --> 00:21:07,183
your tattoos and piercing?
427
00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:09,519
Well, my mum's got, like,
428
00:21:10,019 --> 00:21:11,896
five piercings and a tattoo,
429
00:21:12,063 --> 00:21:13,773
so she doesn't really
care too much.
430
00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:16,109
It turns out more than
not that they just...
431
00:21:16,276 --> 00:21:17,318
Don't like authority.
432
00:21:17,485 --> 00:21:19,195
And we represent authority.
433
00:21:19,362 --> 00:21:21,197
Penelope: You got any more
under your shirt?
434
00:21:21,364 --> 00:21:23,241
Right, just... just one.
435
00:21:25,660 --> 00:21:28,204
Penelope: Can you describe
the music they play?
436
00:21:28,913 --> 00:21:31,750
Very loud.
Very loud, very loud, very loud.
437
00:21:32,167 --> 00:21:34,210
One, two, three, four!
438
00:21:34,377 --> 00:21:37,922
[Loud music playing]
439
00:21:41,134 --> 00:21:43,428
I hate greedy politicians
I hate greedy corporations
440
00:21:43,595 --> 00:21:45,805
I hate their manipulation
I hate all their exploitation
441
00:21:45,972 --> 00:21:47,891
I hate their economy
I hate this whole society
442
00:21:48,057 --> 00:21:50,268
I hate it all I hate it all
443
00:21:50,435 --> 00:21:51,519
smash the state
444
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:53,605
smash the state
445
00:21:54,689 --> 00:21:55,774
smash the state
446
00:21:56,608 --> 00:21:58,818
smash the state we don't need it
447
00:21:58,985 --> 00:22:01,088
I hate all the presidents
and I hate all the governments
448
00:22:01,112 --> 00:22:02,339
I hate the laws that they invent
449
00:22:02,363 --> 00:22:03,466
I hate all that they represent
450
00:22:03,490 --> 00:22:05,650
I hate their fake democracy
I hate their damn hypocrisy
451
00:22:05,784 --> 00:22:07,786
I hate it all I hate it all
452
00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:09,996
everything could change
everything could change
453
00:22:10,163 --> 00:22:12,457
everything could change
take some action
454
00:22:12,624 --> 00:22:14,709
everything could change
everything could change
455
00:22:14,876 --> 00:22:17,420
everything could change
take some action
456
00:22:17,587 --> 00:22:18,755
Penelope: Do you like cops?
457
00:22:18,922 --> 00:22:20,590
Uh-huh!
458
00:22:21,007 --> 00:22:22,300
- No.
- Penelope: No?
459
00:22:22,467 --> 00:22:23,802
Fuckin' assholes!
460
00:22:23,968 --> 00:22:25,648
Penelope: What do you
think about the cops?
461
00:22:26,054 --> 00:22:28,139
- They can suck my dick.
- [Chuckles]
462
00:22:28,306 --> 00:22:31,059
Because they're a bunch
of fascist ass cracks,
463
00:22:31,226 --> 00:22:34,062
they can suck my dick again,
part ii even.
464
00:22:34,229 --> 00:22:35,522
The cops don't do anything good
465
00:22:35,688 --> 00:22:37,273
except fucking harass us
every day.
466
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,234
They're so corrupt.
467
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,153
They're so damn corrupt.
468
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,197
Penelope: Only beat up by
the cops one time?
469
00:22:44,697 --> 00:22:46,199
No, about three times.
470
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,701
Different precincts, so...
471
00:22:48,868 --> 00:22:50,703
Like they'll put the
handcuffs on it,
472
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:52,431
and you'll be right there
and they'll, like,
473
00:22:52,455 --> 00:22:54,749
squeeze 'em,
like, squeeze it, so...
474
00:22:54,916 --> 00:22:55,999
Penelope: The handcuffs?
475
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,087
Yeah, once I didn't feel my
thumb for about a week.
476
00:22:59,254 --> 00:23:02,215
They put a phone book over my
face and hit me with a club.
477
00:23:03,591 --> 00:23:04,843
And they're assholes.
478
00:23:05,009 --> 00:23:08,972
They stole my leather jacket and
all my clothes. [Laughs]
479
00:23:09,138 --> 00:23:10,991
I'm like, "there's supposed
to be a certain area
480
00:23:11,015 --> 00:23:12,117
โwhere we have to hang out at,"
481
00:23:12,141 --> 00:23:13,268
and then one cop's like,
482
00:23:13,434 --> 00:23:14,829
"yeah, why don't you
try the city zoo?"
483
00:23:14,853 --> 00:23:15,937
And I'm like, "fuck!"
484
00:23:16,271 --> 00:23:17,355
City zoo!
485
00:23:17,981 --> 00:23:20,233
When will you start
to get angry?
486
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,360
When will you start
to fight back?
487
00:23:22,527 --> 00:23:24,112
Smash the state
488
00:23:24,654 --> 00:23:26,072
smash the state
489
00:23:26,906 --> 00:23:28,116
smash the state
490
00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:30,702
smash the state
we don't need it!
491
00:23:30,869 --> 00:23:32,949
I hate the United Nations
I hate their disinformation
492
00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:34,414
I hate military actions
493
00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:35,901
I hate
fascist right wing factions
494
00:23:35,999 --> 00:23:37,810
I hate all the isolation
I hate all the desperation
495
00:23:37,834 --> 00:23:39,836
I hate it all I hate it all
496
00:23:40,003 --> 00:23:41,713
smash the state!
497
00:23:43,423 --> 00:23:44,966
So, who do we look at then?
498
00:23:45,133 --> 00:23:47,343
- Either one?
- Both: Each other!
499
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:48,510
[Sighs]
500
00:23:48,595 --> 00:23:50,471
[Laughs]
501
00:23:50,638 --> 00:23:53,433
I'd never been in a band before,
I was a French horn player.
502
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,018
[Playing]
503
00:23:55,184 --> 00:23:56,227
Take two!
504
00:23:56,394 --> 00:23:58,563
I did not know how to
write rock n' roll music
505
00:23:58,730 --> 00:24:00,064
or sing it, but I could...
506
00:24:00,231 --> 00:24:02,442
I had the expression
and anger and
507
00:24:02,609 --> 00:24:04,253
all of this aggression,
and Phil just helped me-
508
00:24:04,277 --> 00:24:05,361
you were pissed, man!
509
00:24:05,528 --> 00:24:09,449
[Singing loudly]
510
00:24:10,199 --> 00:24:12,239
She had an extremely loud voice,
for how big she is,
511
00:24:12,327 --> 00:24:13,804
and that kind of gave
me the idea, like,
512
00:24:13,828 --> 00:24:15,014
โhey, maybe she should be like
513
00:24:15,038 --> 00:24:16,456
โa singer in like a rock band."
514
00:24:16,623 --> 00:24:18,666
His mom put a guitar in his hand
515
00:24:18,833 --> 00:24:20,153
when he was like two
or something.
516
00:24:20,209 --> 00:24:24,005
- Penelope: Oh, really?
- We have a little baby rocker!
517
00:24:25,924 --> 00:24:27,300
[Plays one note]
518
00:24:29,469 --> 00:24:30,720
Okay, I'm done.
519
00:24:30,887 --> 00:24:32,656
I was trying to make a living
on classical guitar
520
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,890
when I was going to school.
521
00:24:34,182 --> 00:24:35,683
[Playing fast tune]
522
00:24:41,522 --> 00:24:42,522
Isn't that romantic?
523
00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:44,275
[Laughing]
524
00:24:44,442 --> 00:24:47,487
[Playing fur Elise]
525
00:24:47,695 --> 00:24:49,322
[Chuckling]
526
00:24:50,740 --> 00:24:52,283
I learned this when I was six.
527
00:24:53,368 --> 00:24:54,369
That's good.
528
00:24:54,535 --> 00:24:55,995
Penelope: So, the guys next door.
529
00:24:56,162 --> 00:24:57,872
On one side of us
is a heavy metal band
530
00:24:58,039 --> 00:24:59,433
that practices and
then on the other side
531
00:24:59,457 --> 00:25:00,458
we have a mariachi bar,
532
00:25:00,625 --> 00:25:02,102
it's like around the
other side of this wall.
533
00:25:02,126 --> 00:25:05,421
They have live mariachi bands
every Friday and Saturday night.
534
00:25:05,588 --> 00:25:08,049
Penelope: So you've got mariachi,
punk rock and heavy metal?
535
00:25:08,216 --> 00:25:09,216
Heavy metal
536
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:12,303
Christian guys that do
speed and watch pornos!
537
00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:13,572
Aaron: They're from Alabama.
538
00:25:13,596 --> 00:25:15,199
Penelope: Are they really
religious though?
539
00:25:15,223 --> 00:25:17,600
They're born again,
serious, born again christians.
540
00:25:17,767 --> 00:25:19,060
Penelope: How do they justify
541
00:25:19,227 --> 00:25:21,771
the Christian thing with
the speed and the porno?
542
00:25:21,938 --> 00:25:24,857
Have you ever stayed up
for a couple of days on speed?
543
00:25:25,024 --> 00:25:27,694
You can make all kinds of
things sound tangible.
544
00:25:27,860 --> 00:25:30,321
- I wouldn't know personally!
- Penelope: Yeah!
545
00:25:30,488 --> 00:25:34,117
- Penelope: Where do you work?
- I work at a pizza place.
546
00:25:34,617 --> 00:25:36,494
- Penelope: Yeah!
- I shouldn't say the name...
547
00:25:36,661 --> 00:25:39,122
I made 800 pizzas today!
548
00:25:39,288 --> 00:25:41,416
I get to stay home and work
out of the house, like,
549
00:25:41,624 --> 00:25:43,334
fix cars, and...
550
00:25:43,501 --> 00:25:45,294
Do construction, welding...
551
00:25:45,503 --> 00:25:47,213
I work at the dry cleaners!
552
00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:49,549
I'm graduating to
pressing pretty soon!
553
00:25:49,716 --> 00:25:51,568
This is like a job where
it is pretty kicked back,
554
00:25:51,592 --> 00:25:53,886
you have to deal with pricks
a lot, and a lot of fucking
555
00:25:54,053 --> 00:25:56,431
assholes that are coming to
get their shit cleaned,
556
00:25:56,597 --> 00:25:58,701
they get mad at you when their
shit doesn't come back all
557
00:25:58,725 --> 00:26:01,227
sparkly white, but,
you know, it's pretty...
558
00:26:01,394 --> 00:26:03,247
Penelope: People walk in there
and get things cleaned up
559
00:26:03,271 --> 00:26:05,290
and you're standing there
with green hair then what's up?
560
00:26:05,314 --> 00:26:07,251
And they just go, โwhere'd you
get that green hair?โ
561
00:26:07,275 --> 00:26:09,378
I'll say, โwell, I found it in
the backyard,โ you know?
562
00:26:09,402 --> 00:26:10,945
"How come your hair is green?"
563
00:26:11,112 --> 00:26:13,573
"I went swimming in
Santa Monica, you know?"
564
00:26:13,740 --> 00:26:14,824
Stupid shit, like that.
565
00:26:14,991 --> 00:26:19,579
[Plays notes]
566
00:26:20,329 --> 00:26:21,329
For some reason,
567
00:26:21,414 --> 00:26:22,999
everyone thinks
a punk rock bands
568
00:26:23,166 --> 00:26:24,542
should be poor and exploited,
569
00:26:24,709 --> 00:26:27,086
but any other kind of musician
can make money, and...
570
00:26:27,253 --> 00:26:29,088
[Indistinct]
571
00:26:29,255 --> 00:26:30,506
- Penelope: So, Kirsten?
- Hmm?
572
00:26:30,673 --> 00:26:32,508
Penelope: How do you
feel about that?
573
00:26:32,675 --> 00:26:35,011
It's bullshit! No one
should be exploited!
574
00:26:35,178 --> 00:26:36,178
The bigger picture...
575
00:26:36,262 --> 00:26:39,515
The funniest part of this whole
money and exploitation thing...
576
00:26:39,682 --> 00:26:42,602
Nowadays in the '905, there
are so many bands out there
577
00:26:42,769 --> 00:26:45,146
getting screwed over
by independent labels
578
00:26:45,313 --> 00:26:46,481
and, in the scene,
579
00:26:46,647 --> 00:26:49,047
a lot of people get mad at bands
if they sign at major labels
580
00:26:49,108 --> 00:26:50,108
but in the 90s,
581
00:26:50,193 --> 00:26:53,279
the major labels are not really
screwing bands over anymore.
582
00:26:53,446 --> 00:26:56,074
Penelope: You're in a bind though,
because a lot of your fans
583
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,493
are not gonna dig you
if you signed to a major label.
584
00:26:58,659 --> 00:26:59,659
Both: No!
585
00:26:59,744 --> 00:27:01,496
That's the irony of it all.
586
00:27:01,662 --> 00:27:04,415
Actually, here's our mail order.
We have all this stuff under here.
587
00:27:04,582 --> 00:27:06,209
โMuch much alive" album.
588
00:27:06,375 --> 00:27:10,421
We have our selection of naked
aggression patches and pins,
589
00:27:10,588 --> 00:27:12,173
for any occasion.
590
00:27:12,340 --> 00:27:13,716
Bitter youth album...
591
00:27:13,883 --> 00:27:16,052
Kirsten: Phil made
a heat dryer and
592
00:27:16,219 --> 00:27:17,419
silk screened these ourselves.
593
00:27:17,512 --> 00:27:18,971
These are like "punk sucks."
594
00:27:19,138 --> 00:27:20,431
Compilation cds.
595
00:27:20,598 --> 00:27:22,826
Man: More than one kid at this
show, man, they're all cool,
596
00:27:22,850 --> 00:27:24,685
they got those butt-flap things.
597
00:27:24,852 --> 00:27:26,312
I'm like, its a bag patch,
598
00:27:26,479 --> 00:27:28,314
I suppose you could wear
it on your butt.
599
00:27:28,481 --> 00:27:31,192
There's so many screwed
up things going on like...
600
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,154
This culture of take
everything and waste it all
601
00:27:35,321 --> 00:27:37,281
and you don't need love
and you don't need family,
602
00:27:37,365 --> 00:27:39,826
you don't need friends,
you don't need anybody,
603
00:27:39,992 --> 00:27:43,037
you just need money, you just
need things to make you happy.
604
00:27:43,204 --> 00:27:45,623
Penelope: But punk rockers
don't think that way.
605
00:27:45,790 --> 00:27:47,875
But they see things
in a different light
606
00:27:48,042 --> 00:27:52,046
than someone that
lives in front of the TV or
607
00:27:52,213 --> 00:27:55,925
borrows daddy's BMW
to go to the store
608
00:27:56,092 --> 00:27:58,219
to buy a new
blouse because I'm sad!
609
00:27:58,386 --> 00:28:00,304
Penelope: What are some of
the causes that
610
00:28:00,471 --> 00:28:01,907
you've been asked
to raise money for?
611
00:28:01,931 --> 00:28:03,558
Help build a rape crisis center.
612
00:28:03,724 --> 00:28:04,964
Kirsten: Yes, we do a lot of...
613
00:28:05,059 --> 00:28:06,394
National organization for women.
614
00:28:06,561 --> 00:28:09,355
Women's shelters for
abused women,
615
00:28:09,522 --> 00:28:11,357
aids research...
616
00:28:11,524 --> 00:28:13,335
If some guy needed his
rent paid, went to benefit...
617
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,236
- Well, that was...
- Yeah...
618
00:28:15,403 --> 00:28:17,071
We've helped pay people's rent.
619
00:28:17,530 --> 00:28:22,410
[Playing slow tune]
620
00:28:24,537 --> 00:28:28,040
There was a protest to go on to
help defend this doctor's house
621
00:28:28,207 --> 00:28:29,959
in a local clinic
that did abortions.
622
00:28:30,126 --> 00:28:31,252
Phil and I rounded up, like,
623
00:28:31,419 --> 00:28:35,006
30 to 40 punks in a whole
bunch of different vans.
624
00:28:35,173 --> 00:28:37,258
We all drove across town
to the clinic,
625
00:28:37,425 --> 00:28:39,570
and all the people that were
there already were just like,
626
00:28:39,594 --> 00:28:42,054
"woah," 'cause there's
40 punk rockers
627
00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:44,223
just jumping out of vans,
ready to, like,
628
00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:45,558
defend the clinic.
629
00:28:45,725 --> 00:28:47,602
Once we played a show in
Denver, the cops came,
630
00:28:47,768 --> 00:28:50,313
they started beating up
this little punk rock girl
631
00:28:50,479 --> 00:28:51,731
that was like 14 years old,
632
00:28:51,898 --> 00:28:54,066
so all of our friends
jumped the cops,
633
00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:55,752
and started beating the
fuck out of the cops,
634
00:28:55,776 --> 00:28:57,737
they started smashing
their glasses,
635
00:28:57,904 --> 00:28:59,298
they started smashing
them to the ground,
636
00:28:59,322 --> 00:29:00,322
they were bleeding,
637
00:29:00,448 --> 00:29:02,450
the cops wanted us to go
to court, then we said,
638
00:29:02,617 --> 00:29:04,657
โfuck you, we're not going
to court to testify you."
639
00:29:04,744 --> 00:29:05,870
No way!
640
00:29:06,037 --> 00:29:07,556
We're like, "well, can we
play one more song,"
641
00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:09,183
and they're like, "yes,"
we played the song
642
00:29:09,207 --> 00:29:10,249
death to all the pigs.
643
00:29:10,416 --> 00:29:13,127
We packed up and they
escorted us out of town.
644
00:29:13,294 --> 00:29:15,230
Penelope: What would you do
if you ever got famous?
645
00:29:15,254 --> 00:29:17,094
Like people jumping all over
your car and shit?
646
00:29:17,131 --> 00:29:19,759
I would probably hate it.
I'd probably try to run them over.
647
00:29:19,926 --> 00:29:20,927
[Laughing]
648
00:29:21,093 --> 00:29:23,054
We'd just do the things
we always like to do.
649
00:29:23,221 --> 00:29:25,381
But we're still gonna know
the world's still fucked up.
650
00:29:25,514 --> 00:29:27,516
There's still people
starving to death and
651
00:29:27,725 --> 00:29:29,227
being killed by death squads.
652
00:29:29,393 --> 00:29:31,312
I'd probably be able
to buy car insurance.
653
00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:36,734
[Playing classical tune]
654
00:29:53,459 --> 00:29:56,212
- [Laughing]
- Oh, that's so beautiful!
655
00:29:56,379 --> 00:29:57,713
Man: What do you
call that piece?
656
00:29:58,005 --> 00:30:01,384
I call that piece,
โmy radiator's broken."
657
00:30:01,550 --> 00:30:02,885
[Laughing]
658
00:30:03,052 --> 00:30:04,512
One two, fuck you!
659
00:30:04,679 --> 00:30:08,808
[Punk rock music playing]
660
00:30:10,226 --> 00:30:12,270
[Whooping]
661
00:30:12,812 --> 00:30:14,355
Oh!
662
00:30:15,648 --> 00:30:17,650
[Indistinct conversation]
663
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:20,778
Yes!
664
00:30:31,414 --> 00:30:32,854
Penelope: How do you
make your money?
665
00:30:33,749 --> 00:30:34,749
I don't.
666
00:30:34,875 --> 00:30:35,875
What money?
667
00:30:36,794 --> 00:30:38,879
I panhandle,
I collect bottles...
668
00:30:39,046 --> 00:30:40,840
Rob and pillage.
669
00:30:42,550 --> 00:30:43,551
Do whatever!
670
00:30:43,718 --> 00:30:45,136
Sometimes, I Rob, steal.
671
00:30:45,678 --> 00:30:47,054
Spare change, whatever.
672
00:30:47,596 --> 00:30:49,473
Panhandling or...
673
00:30:50,182 --> 00:30:53,894
Photospanging or doing
labor work here and there.
674
00:30:54,061 --> 00:30:55,497
- Like construction...
- Penelope: Photo-what?
675
00:30:55,521 --> 00:30:57,165
- Photospanging.
- Penelope: What does that mean?
676
00:30:57,189 --> 00:30:58,232
It's-ii it's-ii
677
00:30:58,399 --> 00:31:01,319
we go stand out in front of
mann's Chinese theater
678
00:31:01,485 --> 00:31:03,362
with our hair
all charged and stuff,
679
00:31:03,529 --> 00:31:05,948
and the tourists come
by and want pictures,
680
00:31:06,115 --> 00:31:07,199
so we just charge them.
681
00:31:07,366 --> 00:31:11,454
We spange and charge tourists
money to take our ugly pictures.
682
00:31:11,912 --> 00:31:14,206
They give me a dollar
or so, each photo...
683
00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:16,250
[Shutter clicks]
684
00:31:16,417 --> 00:31:19,503
In fact, we just made two
bucks on the way here.
685
00:31:20,046 --> 00:31:22,757
Today, I made like three bucks
the whole day and that was...
686
00:31:22,923 --> 00:31:23,923
Shit.
687
00:31:24,008 --> 00:31:25,426
About 10 bucks a day
688
00:31:25,593 --> 00:31:28,429
and I spend it on beer and
then mooch off of him.
689
00:31:28,596 --> 00:31:30,765
Anywhere from $10 to $20.
690
00:31:30,931 --> 00:31:32,808
- And you can live on that?
- Yeah.
691
00:31:32,975 --> 00:31:36,729
To be all charged up, I go down
to Melrose, make like 50 bucks...
692
00:31:36,896 --> 00:31:38,536
To make about 40-50
bucks, that's all day.
693
00:31:38,689 --> 00:31:40,066
Capitalist bastard.
694
00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:42,294
Penelope: Aren't you embarrassed
to ask people for money?
695
00:31:42,318 --> 00:31:43,944
No, because I'm not begging.
696
00:31:44,111 --> 00:31:45,839
- Penelope: What are you doing?
- I'm asking.
697
00:31:45,863 --> 00:31:48,115
I'm asking for welfare,
I'm asking for...
698
00:31:48,282 --> 00:31:49,325
Someone to help me out.
699
00:31:49,492 --> 00:31:50,492
People trip out,
700
00:31:50,576 --> 00:31:53,579
[mimicking] โYou're gonna buy
heroin or something," you know!
701
00:31:54,497 --> 00:31:56,916
Well, if you wanna buy
me food, go ahead.
702
00:31:57,083 --> 00:31:59,377
That means I got more
money in my pocket for beer.
703
00:32:00,878 --> 00:32:01,921
Down. [Clicks tongue]
704
00:32:02,088 --> 00:32:03,964
Penelope: When you Rob,
where do you Rob from?
705
00:32:04,131 --> 00:32:07,259
Stores, people... cars...
706
00:32:08,928 --> 00:32:09,928
Houses...
707
00:32:10,054 --> 00:32:11,694
Penelope: You ever feel
guilty about that?
708
00:32:12,264 --> 00:32:13,264
No.
709
00:32:13,391 --> 00:32:14,659
Penelope: Why don't you go
and get a job?
710
00:32:14,683 --> 00:32:17,228
It's hard to find jobs
for people looking like me.
711
00:32:17,395 --> 00:32:19,688
I don't want a job.
I don't wanna do that.
712
00:32:20,356 --> 00:32:21,524
I don't need that.
713
00:32:22,358 --> 00:32:26,362
[Punk rock music playing]
714
00:32:27,988 --> 00:32:30,950
Spare any change
at all today, guy?
715
00:32:31,534 --> 00:32:32,535
Twitchin'...
716
00:32:33,911 --> 00:32:35,955
Spare a quarter for disorder?
717
00:32:36,122 --> 00:32:37,642
Can you spare any change
at all, folks?
718
00:32:38,332 --> 00:32:40,751
Right, thanks a lot,
and a have very lovely day.
719
00:32:40,918 --> 00:32:43,170
I swear I won't
waste it on food.
720
00:32:43,337 --> 00:32:45,589
Even a few pennies,
a nickel, a dime...
721
00:32:45,798 --> 00:32:48,300
Spare a dime, prevent a crime!
722
00:32:48,509 --> 00:32:50,970
Got an extra cigarette?
I'll be your best friend.
723
00:32:51,137 --> 00:32:53,264
How about an answer?
Spare an answer? Dick.
724
00:32:53,431 --> 00:32:56,267
Spare any change, buddy,
by any chance?
725
00:32:56,434 --> 00:32:58,310
Come on, sexy. Muah! Muah!
726
00:32:58,936 --> 00:33:01,439
- Woah, right on, sir!
- Thank you.
727
00:33:01,605 --> 00:33:04,316
- Cheers!
- Thank you so much, sir!
728
00:33:04,483 --> 00:33:06,819
Ex-porno star,
out of business, need change.
729
00:33:06,986 --> 00:33:08,195
Oh, yes.
730
00:33:08,737 --> 00:33:11,073
- We got it down.
- Cheers, man.
731
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,491
Pennies? Answer?
732
00:33:13,701 --> 00:33:15,035
Say no... bitches!
733
00:33:15,703 --> 00:33:17,580
Spit on me for a quarter!
734
00:33:18,247 --> 00:33:19,957
Shit on me for a dollar!
735
00:33:20,124 --> 00:33:21,124
[Laughs]
736
00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:24,420
Kick me in the
nut-sack for 50 cents.
737
00:33:24,587 --> 00:33:28,507
I'll kick you in the nut-sack
for 50 cents, motherfucker!
738
00:33:28,716 --> 00:33:31,719
[Hard punk rock playing]
739
00:33:32,094 --> 00:33:34,638
Is it cool if
I'm short 10 cents.
740
00:33:34,972 --> 00:33:40,227
[Hard punk rock playing]
741
00:33:42,313 --> 00:33:45,149
Lower the crime rate,
spare some change!
742
00:33:45,316 --> 00:33:48,527
Next person I Jack maybe
someone you know and love.
743
00:33:48,694 --> 00:33:50,488
Spare any change at
all for a case?
744
00:33:50,654 --> 00:33:52,114
Oh, so sexy!
745
00:33:52,281 --> 00:33:54,533
Spare any change for
the old folks' home?
746
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,535
Spare any change
for some glasses?
747
00:33:56,702 --> 00:33:59,205
Spare any change so I can
get a dress for the prom?
748
00:33:59,371 --> 00:34:01,665
Spare any change at all, fella,
for the unabomber?
749
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:05,169
You spare any
change at all, madam?
750
00:34:05,336 --> 00:34:08,506
Spare any change at all for
a fucking plastic purse?
751
00:34:08,672 --> 00:34:11,050
Spare any change at all
by any chance, anything helps.
752
00:34:11,217 --> 00:34:12,217
No.
753
00:34:12,426 --> 00:34:15,471
Oh, shit!
It is Bruce hershenson.
754
00:34:16,013 --> 00:34:17,013
Fuck!
755
00:34:17,139 --> 00:34:19,975
[Punk rock music playing]
756
00:34:20,142 --> 00:34:21,435
Fuck you, squid!
757
00:34:27,274 --> 00:34:29,318
Hey buddy, can you spare
a little bit of change?
758
00:34:29,485 --> 00:34:31,028
To get another one of those?
759
00:34:31,195 --> 00:34:32,321
Yeah, one of those.
760
00:34:33,781 --> 00:34:35,157
You can recycle it, if you want.
761
00:34:36,033 --> 00:34:38,118
- Here!
- Fucking prick!
762
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,373
Both: Spare change!
763
00:34:44,583 --> 00:34:47,127
Penelope: In the first punk rock
days, did you do drugs?
764
00:34:47,294 --> 00:34:50,130
Sure. I think everybody did.
765
00:34:51,632 --> 00:34:53,884
- Penelope: Like what kind?
- Um...
766
00:34:54,593 --> 00:34:57,429
Pills, heroin,
767
00:34:58,055 --> 00:34:59,139
alcohol...
768
00:35:00,891 --> 00:35:03,102
Whatever was
around, basically...
769
00:35:03,269 --> 00:35:04,789
Penelope: What does it
do to your body?
770
00:35:04,895 --> 00:35:07,940
It fucks your body up.
771
00:35:09,275 --> 00:35:12,861
You're not eating,
you're not sleeping, in...
772
00:35:13,153 --> 00:35:15,072
The right order anyway.
773
00:35:16,282 --> 00:35:17,449
If you're having sex,
774
00:35:17,616 --> 00:35:20,077
maybe you're having it too much,
too little...
775
00:35:22,121 --> 00:35:25,583
Just, basically,
screws up everything.
776
00:35:25,749 --> 00:35:26,869
Penelope: Why did you do it?
777
00:35:27,376 --> 00:35:29,461
Felt good at the time.
778
00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:32,423
And it's peer pressure somewhat.
779
00:35:33,215 --> 00:35:36,260
I just wish I hadn't wasted so
much time doing drugs.
780
00:35:37,595 --> 00:35:39,698
Penelope: Let me see your arms,
your arms look pretty clean.
781
00:35:39,722 --> 00:35:42,057
Certainly are, just the scars.
782
00:35:42,308 --> 00:35:45,269
- Just the battle scars!
- Penelope: Yeah!
783
00:35:47,229 --> 00:35:48,606
I don't do drugs.
784
00:35:48,772 --> 00:35:51,233
Uh-huh... used to. Quit.
785
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,443
[Clacking teeth]
786
00:35:52,985 --> 00:35:54,486
Too many friends dead.
787
00:35:54,653 --> 00:35:56,813
Penelope: So where did you meet
little Tommy the queer?
788
00:35:57,156 --> 00:35:59,491
At an na meeting, actually...
789
00:35:59,658 --> 00:36:01,076
- Penelope: Na?
- Yeah!
790
00:36:01,744 --> 00:36:04,121
- Penelope: Narcotics anonymous?
- Both: That's right.
791
00:36:04,788 --> 00:36:06,415
- Penelope: And you're 15?
- Yeah!
792
00:36:06,999 --> 00:36:09,668
- Penelope: What were you kicking?
- Speed.
793
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,670
- Penelope: And you?
- Downers...
794
00:36:11,837 --> 00:36:13,047
Codeine and stuff...
795
00:36:13,213 --> 00:36:14,715
Beer, bud, and...
796
00:36:15,341 --> 00:36:16,717
Once in awhile heroin...
797
00:36:16,884 --> 00:36:18,427
No drugs... booze!
798
00:36:19,595 --> 00:36:22,514
This cup is the best two dollar
investment I've ever made!
799
00:36:22,765 --> 00:36:24,645
- Every time...
- Let me see it, I can't see it!
800
00:36:24,767 --> 00:36:27,978
Okay, well, it's a club
refill from... I think chevron.
801
00:36:28,145 --> 00:36:29,813
- See?
- Yeah.
802
00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:31,273
Hangs on my shoulder here.
803
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,193
Usually, I'd stumble on,
you know, if I got no beer
804
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,986
or alcohol...
805
00:36:36,153 --> 00:36:37,946
Crank it off, see?
806
00:36:38,364 --> 00:36:39,657
Spare a swill?
807
00:36:39,907 --> 00:36:41,667
- [Laughs]
- Penelope: What's in that bottle?
808
00:36:43,327 --> 00:36:45,371
Space juice. [Laughs]
809
00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:46,848
Penelope: Do you drink every day?
810
00:36:46,872 --> 00:36:48,415
I... yeah.
811
00:36:48,582 --> 00:36:51,835
I have to drink every day
or I'd freak out, you know...
812
00:36:52,002 --> 00:36:53,504
[Buzzing] D t's
813
00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:55,714
how much?
814
00:36:56,173 --> 00:36:59,551
[Laughs] Enough to black out
every night, I don't know!
815
00:36:59,718 --> 00:37:00,987
Penelope: What time in the morning
816
00:37:01,011 --> 00:37:02,331
did you start drinking,
hamburger?
817
00:37:02,554 --> 00:37:04,890
Six in the morning,
once they start selling.
818
00:37:05,057 --> 00:37:07,726
Booze door opens at six,
and closes at two, so...
819
00:37:07,893 --> 00:37:09,533
Penelope: And what time
you stop at night?
820
00:37:09,645 --> 00:37:12,022
Two in the morning,
once they stop selling.
821
00:37:12,189 --> 00:37:14,069
Penelope: So, when did you
start drinking today?
822
00:37:17,111 --> 00:37:19,446
I think about 10 this morning.
823
00:37:19,613 --> 00:37:22,032
As soon as I wake up,
I'm gonna freak...
824
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:23,409
Usually when I wake up...
825
00:37:23,575 --> 00:37:25,119
Whenever I wake up...
826
00:37:25,285 --> 00:37:28,414
You hear all funny and you
see the little detox gremlins,
827
00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:29,748
running around and...
828
00:37:29,915 --> 00:37:31,709
- You get a lot of hangovers?
- โNo-
829
00:37:31,875 --> 00:37:34,294
I always wake up buzzed.
[Laughs]
830
00:37:34,461 --> 00:37:37,798
I can't even eat unless
I've at least had a few sips.
831
00:37:37,965 --> 00:37:41,093
I mean, give me a 12 ounce
can of beer in the morning
832
00:37:41,260 --> 00:37:42,511
and I'll be all good.
833
00:37:42,678 --> 00:37:44,739
Penelope: How old were you
when you started drinking?
834
00:37:44,763 --> 00:37:45,764
Uh... about 14.
835
00:37:45,931 --> 00:37:46,932
About 12.
836
00:37:47,099 --> 00:37:49,393
Like 10-11.
837
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,980
The first time I ever got drunk
I almost drowned in a toilet,
838
00:37:53,147 --> 00:37:54,982
'cause my dad and my
uncle got me drunk.
839
00:37:55,149 --> 00:37:58,485
And, I drowned in the
toilet almost.
840
00:37:58,736 --> 00:38:01,238
They were feeding me
beer all day, but...
841
00:38:01,405 --> 00:38:03,508
- The first time...
- Penelope: How old were you then?
842
00:38:03,532 --> 00:38:04,533
About three.
843
00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:06,827
Penelope: Why do you think
you started so young?
844
00:38:08,829 --> 00:38:09,830
Problems.
845
00:38:10,122 --> 00:38:12,040
It's not really fun
to be in reality.
846
00:38:12,207 --> 00:38:14,168
I'm a lot better
person to be with
847
00:38:14,334 --> 00:38:17,004
when I've got a couple
of frosty cold ones.
848
00:38:18,297 --> 00:38:19,798
Penelope: Are you nasty otherwise?
849
00:38:21,258 --> 00:38:22,384
Uh... boring!
850
00:38:22,551 --> 00:38:25,721
I wanna go to find a farm
851
00:38:26,305 --> 00:38:27,931
and live there without nothing.
852
00:38:28,098 --> 00:38:30,142
- Simple life?
- Just grow stuff and just...
853
00:38:30,309 --> 00:38:32,311
Have friends around
and brew beer
854
00:38:32,478 --> 00:38:34,980
and drink all day and get drunk
and hang out with friends.
855
00:38:35,814 --> 00:38:37,900
And just... have a compound.
856
00:38:38,609 --> 00:38:40,694
- Penelope: Right on! Commune!
- Yeah!
857
00:38:40,861 --> 00:38:42,661
That's what you want?
You want a beer commune?
858
00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:44,573
Yeah. The alcoholic commune!
859
00:38:45,157 --> 00:38:46,533
All I remember is,
860
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:49,828
I was at my fucking
cousin's house, Linda,
861
00:38:49,995 --> 00:38:51,789
and I took a big old chug
862
00:38:51,955 --> 00:38:54,875
'cause I was all asking my dad
if I could take a swaf of beer
863
00:38:55,042 --> 00:38:56,710
and it was whiskey, not beer.
864
00:38:56,877 --> 00:38:59,022
And he poured himself a glass
and went into the bathroom,
865
00:38:59,046 --> 00:39:00,046
and I grabbed it...
866
00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:03,884
I just swallowed it all down,
it started all burnin' inside me
867
00:39:04,051 --> 00:39:07,805
and all of it sprayed out my
nose, right back into this cup.
868
00:39:07,971 --> 00:39:12,392
And there was a booger
floating around inside of it
869
00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:15,270
and he came back,
grabbed it and swilled.
870
00:39:15,437 --> 00:39:18,148
Me and my sister stand there
going...
871
00:39:18,315 --> 00:39:20,234
That fool just drank my iougie.
872
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,902
[Chuckles] But I don't know...
873
00:39:22,152 --> 00:39:25,280
An alcoholic's dream is
taking a solid shit.
874
00:39:26,114 --> 00:39:28,826
And we went up there,
they lived on the third floor,
875
00:39:28,992 --> 00:39:30,536
we were knockin' on the door,
876
00:39:31,370 --> 00:39:32,871
and they wouldn't
answer and I'm like,
877
00:39:33,038 --> 00:39:35,290
"come on, I know your home,
I know your home!"
878
00:39:35,457 --> 00:39:37,000
โCome on, open the door."
879
00:39:37,167 --> 00:39:39,586
And they wouldn't open the door,
I was all like, โfuck this.
880
00:39:39,753 --> 00:39:41,505
"I'm just gonna go
into the alley outside,"
881
00:39:41,672 --> 00:39:43,757
and I'm, like, running
down the stairs,
882
00:39:43,924 --> 00:39:46,093
and I got to the
bottom stairwell,
883
00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:48,929
and I took like this giant
leap and it just went...
884
00:39:49,096 --> 00:39:51,181
[Blows raspberry]
885
00:39:51,974 --> 00:39:55,394
Everywhere and I went,
"oh, man!"
886
00:39:56,812 --> 00:39:58,012
Penelope: You shit your pants?
887
00:39:58,105 --> 00:40:02,693
Oh, yeah, but I, like,
took newspapers and stuff.
888
00:40:02,860 --> 00:40:05,988
I tried to clean up but...
And they were home!
889
00:40:06,154 --> 00:40:08,240
And they were even home
the whole time.
890
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:11,076
[Punk rock music playing]
891
00:40:18,458 --> 00:40:20,627
[Indistinct chatter]
892
00:40:35,642 --> 00:40:37,561
Fuck you. Don't tape this.
893
00:40:39,021 --> 00:40:42,941
[Indistinct chatter]
894
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,652
I don't think
you have enough film
895
00:40:45,819 --> 00:40:48,864
in the entire world
to watch me get beautiful.
896
00:40:49,698 --> 00:40:50,908
Fuck off.
897
00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:52,784
Piss off!
898
00:41:01,251 --> 00:41:04,004
It would take me,
like 15 minutes but I...
899
00:41:04,171 --> 00:41:07,424
I do like a spike
and I'll go drink a beer.
900
00:41:07,925 --> 00:41:09,843
Girl: Procrastination.
901
00:41:10,761 --> 00:41:12,387
This is my friend, Chris.
902
00:41:12,638 --> 00:41:13,889
[Punk rock playing]
903
00:41:14,056 --> 00:41:16,016
And this is my other friend,
pockets.
904
00:41:16,433 --> 00:41:20,395
And the reason they're outside
is 'cause they got bugs.
905
00:41:22,606 --> 00:41:24,149
Penelope: Are you
really a racist?
906
00:41:24,316 --> 00:41:27,027
- Am I racist? Yes, I am.
- Penelope: Why?
907
00:41:28,487 --> 00:41:30,656
No, seriously, I ain't a racist,
908
00:41:30,822 --> 00:41:32,824
I just fuck around,
I don't give a mad fuck.
909
00:41:33,158 --> 00:41:35,577
Yeah, if you think I'm a racist,
then you think I'm a racist.
910
00:41:35,744 --> 00:41:38,455
If you think I'm a faggot,
then you think I'm a faggot.
911
00:41:38,622 --> 00:41:41,222
Straight up, I don't give a mad
fuck what anybody thinks about me.
912
00:41:41,291 --> 00:41:43,502
I just don't like that fucking
shit pointing at me,
913
00:41:43,669 --> 00:41:44,669
just makes me like...
914
00:41:44,795 --> 00:41:46,964
Penelope: I'm sorry,
but this is what I do in life.
915
00:41:47,130 --> 00:41:50,008
All right, that's your hobby.
This is my hobby.
916
00:41:50,509 --> 00:41:52,302
[All singing]
917
00:41:52,594 --> 00:41:54,638
[Crowd chatter]
918
00:41:54,805 --> 00:41:56,848
Woman: Who peed on
the fuckin' mattress?
919
00:41:57,683 --> 00:42:00,102
Spoon: I didn't do it.
I didn't do it.
920
00:42:02,813 --> 00:42:05,440
[Indistinct chatter]
921
00:42:11,238 --> 00:42:12,656
[Burps]
922
00:42:15,283 --> 00:42:17,119
Look at them all getting pretty.
923
00:42:17,285 --> 00:42:19,245
Oh, yeah. They don't care
about the way they look,
924
00:42:19,287 --> 00:42:21,327
they're all in there for hours
trying to get pretty.
925
00:42:22,708 --> 00:42:24,334
You're gonna get
no footage, huh?
926
00:42:24,501 --> 00:42:25,669
Penelope: I don't think so.
927
00:42:31,508 --> 00:42:32,718
Wow!
928
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:37,889
Look at that!
Good god! All right, girl.
929
00:42:42,019 --> 00:42:43,603
And then I woke up and
and I did that
930
00:42:43,770 --> 00:42:45,272
'cause I was really
fuckin' drunk.
931
00:42:46,231 --> 00:42:47,524
[Laughter]
932
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,240
Penelope: You burned yourself
with a cigarette?
933
00:42:50,402 --> 00:42:52,029
With a couple of cigarettes.
934
00:42:52,237 --> 00:42:53,597
Every one that I smoked
that night,
935
00:42:53,739 --> 00:42:56,099
I put it out on my arm, I had
a couple of friends do it too.
936
00:42:57,117 --> 00:42:58,201
Penelope: Did it hurt?
937
00:42:58,744 --> 00:42:59,911
I didn't feel it at the time,
938
00:43:00,078 --> 00:43:01,830
but now it hurts
like a son of a bitch.
939
00:43:02,539 --> 00:43:05,625
Why don't you put something on
it to make it not get infected?
940
00:43:06,084 --> 00:43:07,753
'Cause I'm lazy
and I don't wanna.
941
00:43:08,587 --> 00:43:10,922
Since I got it started,
I might as well finish it.
942
00:43:11,089 --> 00:43:13,341
So as soon as I get drunk enough
I'm gonna finish it.
943
00:43:13,550 --> 00:43:15,844
- Gonna make an arm band?
- Yep.
944
00:43:17,179 --> 00:43:18,972
Gotta get the good one
right there.
945
00:43:19,389 --> 00:43:21,141
The one that is going
to get infected.
946
00:43:21,308 --> 00:43:22,559
Penelope: Oh, god.
947
00:43:25,103 --> 00:43:26,438
Man: No need for this.
948
00:43:26,938 --> 00:43:29,399
[Punks screaming
in the background]
949
00:43:32,569 --> 00:43:34,946
Can I say something
for the record?
950
00:43:35,113 --> 00:43:37,699
Those are not my friends,
I don't know 'em.
951
00:43:38,075 --> 00:43:43,538
Everybody needs to believe
in something
952
00:43:44,331 --> 00:43:47,959
I believe I have another...
953
00:43:48,585 --> 00:43:52,756
Beer
954
00:43:54,341 --> 00:43:57,552
my parents were
the typical conservative...
955
00:43:59,721 --> 00:44:01,348
Yeah, half of my family
are gangsters,
956
00:44:02,099 --> 00:44:03,391
and I'm the only punk rocker.
957
00:44:04,142 --> 00:44:05,578
Penelope: Do they think
you're weird?
958
00:44:05,602 --> 00:44:08,563
Yeah, I think I'm weird but they
know what I'm fighting for, so.
959
00:44:09,397 --> 00:44:10,982
My parents are mormon.
960
00:44:11,441 --> 00:44:13,985
I grew up with a
military father,
961
00:44:14,152 --> 00:44:15,195
military family.
962
00:44:15,362 --> 00:44:19,074
Yeah, my family was screwed up.
My dad was kind of a prick.
963
00:44:19,241 --> 00:44:20,951
My mom used to be a hippie
964
00:44:21,118 --> 00:44:23,537
and my real dad and stepdad
used to be, like,
965
00:44:23,703 --> 00:44:25,956
rival pot dealers
in high school.
966
00:44:26,123 --> 00:44:29,626
And a bunch of crap went down
when they were kids.
967
00:44:29,793 --> 00:44:32,129
And now they're so middle class,
it's so pitiful.
968
00:44:32,295 --> 00:44:33,672
"White picket fence" life
969
00:44:33,839 --> 00:44:34,923
- is what they live.
- Oh.
970
00:44:35,090 --> 00:44:36,410
Penelope: You think
they love you?
971
00:44:36,883 --> 00:44:38,635
Yeah, they might, I don't know.
972
00:44:38,802 --> 00:44:40,262
- You don't talk to them?
- Nah.
973
00:44:41,096 --> 00:44:42,514
Penelope: So why did you
leave home?
974
00:44:42,889 --> 00:44:46,268
'Cause I was forced out,
physically, by my parents.
975
00:44:46,893 --> 00:44:48,854
'Cause they couldn't
deal with me
976
00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:50,123
and I couldn't deal with them.
977
00:44:50,147 --> 00:44:52,607
When they kicked me out,
I said, "good riddance."
978
00:44:52,899 --> 00:44:56,111
Well, my dad tried to force
a stepmom on me.
979
00:44:56,695 --> 00:45:00,448
And my stepmom was like,
she didn't want me.
980
00:45:00,782 --> 00:45:02,993
She put me in a mental
institution.
981
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,995
- When you were how old?
- Seven years old.
982
00:45:05,871 --> 00:45:07,747
And my dad pulled the old
983
00:45:07,914 --> 00:45:10,500
โI'm going to the store
for smokes, be back in fiveโ.
984
00:45:10,959 --> 00:45:13,211
You know how long it's been
since I've seen my pops?
985
00:45:13,879 --> 00:45:17,632
Penelope: Why did you
originally leave home?
986
00:45:19,467 --> 00:45:21,636
- When you were 13?
- Physical abuse.
987
00:45:22,053 --> 00:45:24,639
I lived with my dad and he
wasn't, you know...
988
00:45:25,765 --> 00:45:27,142
He used to beat me and stuff.
989
00:45:27,309 --> 00:45:29,269
- Did your dad hit you?
- Yeah.
990
00:45:29,477 --> 00:45:32,981
- Penelope: Tell me about that.
- It doesn't feel good.
991
00:45:33,148 --> 00:45:35,108
- I mean, it makes...
- Tell me what happened?
992
00:45:35,734 --> 00:45:38,653
It makes me feel like
a little kid again, I mean...
993
00:45:40,322 --> 00:45:41,364
It's demeaning.
994
00:45:41,698 --> 00:45:43,098
Penelope: What did he
beat you with?
995
00:45:43,158 --> 00:45:46,536
Chairs, his fists, whatever
he can get his hands on.
996
00:45:46,703 --> 00:45:49,539
Any number of objects,
I mean, anything from a belt,
997
00:45:49,748 --> 00:45:52,918
to a stick, to a pipe,
to a power tool.
998
00:45:53,126 --> 00:45:55,166
You know, anything my father
could get his hands on,
999
00:45:55,212 --> 00:45:56,972
chairs, I've had my head
put through windows.
1000
00:45:57,130 --> 00:45:58,810
Penelope: What would
your dad hit you with?
1001
00:45:58,924 --> 00:45:59,924
His fist.
1002
00:46:00,050 --> 00:46:01,426
- His fist?
- Yeah.
1003
00:46:01,593 --> 00:46:02,928
- Where?
- Face.
1004
00:46:04,262 --> 00:46:05,555
And other places too.
1005
00:46:06,765 --> 00:46:07,891
Penelope: For what?
1006
00:46:09,601 --> 00:46:11,061
'Cause I'm smarter than he is
1007
00:46:11,228 --> 00:46:12,708
and I can make him
feel like an idiot.
1008
00:46:14,522 --> 00:46:16,542
Penelope: So are any of those
scars from your father?
1009
00:46:16,566 --> 00:46:17,817
Not, not on my chest.
1010
00:46:18,401 --> 00:46:19,527
Where are those?
1011
00:46:20,946 --> 00:46:23,531
I've got one on my shoulder,
some on my back, my legs.
1012
00:46:25,283 --> 00:46:26,534
My face.
1013
00:46:27,661 --> 00:46:29,430
Penelope: Did it make you sad
when he did that?
1014
00:46:29,454 --> 00:46:30,454
Yeah.
1015
00:46:31,206 --> 00:46:33,208
Made me feel helpless
'cause I can't do anything.
1016
00:46:33,583 --> 00:46:36,002
He's fucking 6'3", 200 pounds.
1017
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,338
Penelope:
Did he physically abuse
1018
00:46:38,505 --> 00:46:40,090
any other kids in your family?
1019
00:46:40,257 --> 00:46:41,258
My sister.
1020
00:46:42,968 --> 00:46:44,302
Physically and sexually.
1021
00:46:44,594 --> 00:46:46,471
When you think about it now,
do you get sad?
1022
00:46:46,888 --> 00:46:49,641
Yeah... yeah, I get sad.
1023
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:54,604
Penelope: Do you...
1024
00:46:55,355 --> 00:46:57,023
You think that's why
you're a punk?
1025
00:46:57,983 --> 00:46:59,526
I think that's a big part of it.
1026
00:47:00,277 --> 00:47:02,672
Penelope: If you have children,
are you gonna do that to them?
1027
00:47:02,696 --> 00:47:03,738
No.
1028
00:47:04,614 --> 00:47:06,950
I would take little bit
better care of them.
1029
00:47:08,326 --> 00:47:10,054
Penelope: What would you
say to them right now
1030
00:47:10,078 --> 00:47:11,997
- if you could say one thing?
- Hi.
1031
00:47:16,918 --> 00:47:21,214
[Killing floor playing]
1032
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,179
There's this group around
that calls themselves pro-life
1033
00:47:28,805 --> 00:47:32,392
well, instead they
should call themselves pro-death
1034
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:35,729
because by trying to take away
our freedom of choice
1035
00:47:35,895 --> 00:47:37,272
they're going to force
many women
1036
00:47:37,439 --> 00:47:40,025
who don't want to bear children
to the back alley
1037
00:47:40,984 --> 00:47:44,446
and many women are going to die
from these back alley abortions!
1038
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:47,657
But these people
don't seem to care
1039
00:47:56,499 --> 00:48:00,503
Got an abortion in a back alley
got an abortion in a back alley
1040
00:48:00,670 --> 00:48:03,381
got an abortion in a back alley
1041
00:48:09,721 --> 00:48:14,309
Got an abortion in a back alley
got an abortion in a back alley
1042
00:48:14,476 --> 00:48:18,938
got an abortion in a back alley
got an abortion in a back alley
1043
00:48:19,105 --> 00:48:23,068
and now I'm bleeding to death
on the killing floor
1044
00:48:28,782 --> 00:48:31,493
[Music continues]
1045
00:48:38,583 --> 00:48:40,223
Penelope: How long have you
been homeless?
1046
00:48:40,585 --> 00:48:42,045
Off and on since 12.
1047
00:48:42,796 --> 00:48:44,923
Penelope: Have you ever lived
in a house or apartment?
1048
00:48:45,548 --> 00:48:47,217
I've stayed in a few apartments.
1049
00:48:47,717 --> 00:48:49,511
That's about it,
like, overnight.
1050
00:48:49,677 --> 00:48:51,077
Penelope:
And where do you live now?
1051
00:48:52,389 --> 00:48:53,669
In this field behind burger king
1052
00:48:53,723 --> 00:48:54,974
or alleys wherever I stay.
1053
00:48:55,392 --> 00:48:56,643
I live wherever I sleep.
1054
00:48:58,103 --> 00:48:59,604
Penelope: Okay,
where do you sleep?
1055
00:49:00,980 --> 00:49:02,732
Usually, camping out,
1056
00:49:03,233 --> 00:49:04,692
you know, outside places.
1057
00:49:04,901 --> 00:49:07,320
Sometimes, you know,
in this drinking field.
1058
00:49:07,904 --> 00:49:09,989
- Penelope: In a what?
- In a drinking field.
1059
00:49:10,156 --> 00:49:11,634
- What is that?
- It's just, like, a field,
1060
00:49:11,658 --> 00:49:13,326
there's, like, two fences
and you can...
1061
00:49:13,493 --> 00:49:15,870
Just drink in there,
with other people.
1062
00:49:16,162 --> 00:49:18,956
I don't stay indoors too much,
not in a domesticated house.
1063
00:49:18,957 --> 00:49:21,751
I don't feel very comfortable
[Clears throat] living indoors.
1064
00:49:22,168 --> 00:49:23,938
Penelope: Actually,
you're the only punk around
1065
00:49:23,962 --> 00:49:25,106
that's got their own apartment.
1066
00:49:25,130 --> 00:49:26,673
Yeah... yeah.
1067
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:27,882
Penelope: How old were you
1068
00:49:28,049 --> 00:49:29,329
when you first
started squatting?
1069
00:49:29,384 --> 00:49:30,468
Thirteen.
1070
00:49:30,718 --> 00:49:32,595
Since I was sixteen, I'm 22 now.
1071
00:49:32,762 --> 00:49:36,516
I've been in thousands of squats
all over the country.
1072
00:49:36,808 --> 00:49:39,436
I gotta break into a new squat
pretty soon.
1073
00:49:39,853 --> 00:49:41,354
- Same here.
- Since these lazy bums
1074
00:49:41,521 --> 00:49:43,064
don't wanna fuckin' help me.
1075
00:49:43,231 --> 00:49:44,399
I do, I do.
1076
00:49:44,774 --> 00:49:46,192
How do you find a squat?
1077
00:49:48,570 --> 00:49:51,906
Just walk around, find a place
that looks empty...
1078
00:49:52,365 --> 00:49:54,701
Boarded up house,
an abandoned building.
1079
00:49:54,868 --> 00:49:57,328
Wait till dark fall,
and break into it.
1080
00:49:57,537 --> 00:49:59,622
- Rip a board off.
- Crowbar!
1081
00:49:59,956 --> 00:50:01,291
Invite yourself in.
1082
00:50:01,541 --> 00:50:02,959
Penelope:
And then you live there?
1083
00:50:03,126 --> 00:50:04,377
And then you live there.
1084
00:50:04,836 --> 00:50:07,130
- And they call it squid squat?
- No.
1085
00:50:07,297 --> 00:50:10,008
That was just a joke we got
out of south bay.
1086
00:50:10,175 --> 00:50:11,895
But it got busted,
or else you would've been
1087
00:50:12,010 --> 00:50:13,386
able to film there today.
1088
00:50:13,636 --> 00:50:16,723
That was down squat,
that was my last squat.
1089
00:50:16,890 --> 00:50:19,309
The neighbors loved us,
we had a set up.
1090
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:20,935
It was so clean.
1091
00:50:21,144 --> 00:50:22,145
Penelope: It was nice?
1092
00:50:22,395 --> 00:50:23,875
It was the best house I ever
lived in.
1093
00:50:25,023 --> 00:50:27,317
[Punk rock music playing]
1094
00:50:32,572 --> 00:50:34,012
Flea: This city has become
a lot more
1095
00:50:34,157 --> 00:50:35,658
hostile and a lot less caring
1096
00:50:35,825 --> 00:50:38,703
as time has gone by, I know
there's a drastic difference
1097
00:50:39,037 --> 00:50:40,330
in a short amount of time.
1098
00:50:40,497 --> 00:50:42,377
Ten year period of time,
15 year period of time.
1099
00:50:42,957 --> 00:50:45,043
There's a drastic different
feeling in the city,
1100
00:50:45,210 --> 00:50:46,753
it's more hostile,
it's more cold
1101
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,713
it's less forgiving,
it's less flexible.
1102
00:50:49,172 --> 00:50:52,258
And it's gotta be hard for a
homeless kid now, I know when...
1103
00:50:52,842 --> 00:50:54,219
When I was, like, punk rock,
1104
00:50:54,385 --> 00:50:56,888
you know, whatever,
in like 1981,
1105
00:50:57,889 --> 00:51:00,099
you know, I went and stayed
at the cash club at...
1106
00:51:01,226 --> 00:51:03,466
Janet Cunningham's contemporary
artist space of Hollywood
1107
00:51:03,561 --> 00:51:05,772
with like... animal boner and
1108
00:51:06,022 --> 00:51:08,422
all these punk rock guys who
were sleeping on the couch there
1109
00:51:08,733 --> 00:51:11,236
and there was just this
sense of community, you know,
1110
00:51:11,402 --> 00:51:14,113
you could stay there and
there would be poetry readings,
1111
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,282
people making art
and making music.
1112
00:51:16,533 --> 00:51:17,909
And this feeling of like...
1113
00:51:18,076 --> 00:51:19,619
You know, maybe you're like...
1114
00:51:19,869 --> 00:51:21,589
Don't have a family,
you don't have friends,
1115
00:51:21,663 --> 00:51:23,957
no place to stay
but there's an umbrella.
1116
00:51:24,123 --> 00:51:26,543
You know, this umbrella of art
or whatever you wanna call it,
1117
00:51:26,709 --> 00:51:28,878
punk rock and it was like a
feeling of being loved!
1118
00:51:29,045 --> 00:51:31,089
Which is what everyone wants,
you know.
1119
00:51:31,881 --> 00:51:32,882
And...
1120
00:51:33,424 --> 00:51:35,426
For kids that are homeless now
1121
00:51:35,593 --> 00:51:37,470
walking a boulevard or whatever,
1122
00:51:38,471 --> 00:51:40,682
you know... fuck man!
1123
00:51:41,975 --> 00:51:44,686
[Punk rock music playing]
1124
00:51:54,070 --> 00:51:55,756
Penelope: What are you gonna
do with that dog?
1125
00:51:55,780 --> 00:51:57,780
You don't even have a home,
how can you have a dog?
1126
00:51:57,991 --> 00:52:00,159
I've managed to take care
of myself every day.
1127
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:02,620
That's why I sold my dog.
1128
00:52:02,787 --> 00:52:04,205
- You sold your dog?
- Yeah.
1129
00:52:04,372 --> 00:52:05,498
- For how much?
- 30 bucks.
1130
00:52:05,665 --> 00:52:06,985
So I could get loaded last night.
1131
00:52:11,963 --> 00:52:13,857
Life is boring when you're stuck
out on the streets,
1132
00:52:13,881 --> 00:52:16,441
you know, the only thing to have
fun is to get high or get drunk.
1133
00:52:16,551 --> 00:52:18,761
That's what you can do.
Yep, kill time.
1134
00:52:18,928 --> 00:52:20,763
I live right here in this filth
and garbage
1135
00:52:20,930 --> 00:52:22,450
and slime that you see
every day in la.
1136
00:52:22,765 --> 00:52:24,601
- [Laughing]
- And I enjoy it.
1137
00:52:25,018 --> 00:52:27,604
There's no where left to go.
So, we hang out here
1138
00:52:27,770 --> 00:52:28,938
on the streets.
1139
00:52:29,105 --> 00:52:31,345
Penelope: What are you gonna
be doing in five years, man?
1140
00:52:31,441 --> 00:52:32,441
Well...
1141
00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:35,403
I was thinking about running for
maybe president one day.
1142
00:52:35,653 --> 00:52:37,363
Free beer for everybody, yes!
1143
00:52:37,530 --> 00:52:39,782
Where do you sleep at night,
Mr. President?
1144
00:52:39,949 --> 00:52:42,452
- [Cues band music]
- Anywhere.
1145
00:52:43,244 --> 00:52:44,954
- Bushes, yes.
- We have our own bush home.
1146
00:52:45,121 --> 00:52:47,624
Yeah, it's like a condominium,
we have all these bushes.
1147
00:52:47,957 --> 00:52:50,238
Surrounded, and then inside
we got mattresses and shit.
1148
00:52:50,335 --> 00:52:52,135
Penelope: So where do you
got the bathroom at?
1149
00:52:52,170 --> 00:52:53,546
- Alley.
- You know, find someone's
1150
00:52:53,713 --> 00:52:56,674
back door unlocked in their car,
piss in their backseat but...
1151
00:52:56,841 --> 00:52:59,260
I was gonna go back here
actually but you guys came so...
1152
00:52:59,552 --> 00:53:02,889
Penelope: What about normal
people that have tvs and vcrs,
1153
00:53:03,056 --> 00:53:04,891
don't you wish
you had all that stuff?
1154
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,394
- Not really.
- We're not building society.
1155
00:53:09,187 --> 00:53:11,856
We don't need all that shit.
We don't need any of it.
1156
00:53:12,023 --> 00:53:13,751
Penelope: Where do your
parents think you are?
1157
00:53:13,775 --> 00:53:15,485
My father's dead. My mom...
1158
00:53:15,777 --> 00:53:17,504
She's in a shelter,
I don't know where she is.
1159
00:53:17,528 --> 00:53:19,208
I don't think she knows
where I am, either.
1160
00:53:19,656 --> 00:53:21,741
[Imitating motorcycle]
1161
00:53:24,035 --> 00:53:26,347
Penelope: What are you going
to be doing in about five years?
1162
00:53:26,371 --> 00:53:27,413
Probably the same thing.
1163
00:53:28,956 --> 00:53:31,959
[Punk rock music playing]
1164
00:53:37,173 --> 00:53:39,234
Penelope: How long you been
living out on the street?
1165
00:53:39,258 --> 00:53:41,469
- Since fourteen.
- Seventeen.
1166
00:53:41,761 --> 00:53:43,401
Penelope: Do you ever
change your clothes?
1167
00:53:44,263 --> 00:53:45,682
Yeah, I used to but...
1168
00:53:46,557 --> 00:53:48,810
Generally, this is like
my traveling clothes.
1169
00:53:49,102 --> 00:53:50,662
Penelope: How long since
you had a bath?
1170
00:53:51,479 --> 00:53:53,564
Oh, shit.
Month and a half maybe?
1171
00:53:54,232 --> 00:53:56,234
- You're into punk rock?
- Hell, yeah.
1172
00:53:56,567 --> 00:53:58,069
I'm into punk and drinkin'.
1173
00:53:58,236 --> 00:54:00,238
I hate life and I hate society
1174
00:54:00,405 --> 00:54:01,823
but I'd rather drink beer,
1175
00:54:02,323 --> 00:54:05,034
I'd rather like live for beer,
that's what I live for.
1176
00:54:05,284 --> 00:54:06,884
Penelope: You go to many
punk rock shows?
1177
00:54:06,994 --> 00:54:07,994
Yeah, all the time.
1178
00:54:08,121 --> 00:54:10,873
- How do you get in?
- Rush the door usually...
1179
00:54:11,165 --> 00:54:14,001
Whatever I have to do to hustle
you know and get in, you know.
1180
00:54:14,252 --> 00:54:16,504
Most of the clubs
are too far to walk
1181
00:54:16,671 --> 00:54:18,631
and I got really big blisters
on my feet.
1182
00:54:19,757 --> 00:54:21,467
Penelope: So let me
ask you a question.
1183
00:54:21,634 --> 00:54:23,010
Goddamnit
1184
00:54:23,219 --> 00:54:25,680
what happens when a...
I'm sorry I shouldn't have...
1185
00:54:26,055 --> 00:54:27,682
How do you like
living on the streets?
1186
00:54:28,266 --> 00:54:30,476
It's all right.
It's better than the abuse
1187
00:54:30,643 --> 00:54:31,978
I had in my home.
1188
00:54:32,603 --> 00:54:34,188
Mental and physically.
1189
00:54:34,689 --> 00:54:37,984
My stepmom would beat me over
the ass with a two by four.
1190
00:54:38,317 --> 00:54:40,111
And they'd call me a loser
and that...
1191
00:54:40,903 --> 00:54:42,613
All their fights
are caused by me.
1192
00:54:42,780 --> 00:54:44,407
They always fight
because of me and
1193
00:54:44,824 --> 00:54:47,118
they're alcoholics
and drug addicts.
1194
00:54:47,285 --> 00:54:49,120
So I just followed
in their footsteps
1195
00:54:49,287 --> 00:54:50,455
and ended up on the street.
1196
00:54:50,621 --> 00:54:53,124
My dad's a computer nerd
and my mom's a tweeker.
1197
00:54:53,332 --> 00:54:54,518
- Penelope: A what?
- A tweeker.
1198
00:54:54,542 --> 00:54:56,462
- What is that?
- A person who does lot of speed.
1199
00:54:57,336 --> 00:54:59,380
When you were growing up,
did she do a lot of speed?
1200
00:55:00,173 --> 00:55:02,216
I didn't even really know her
until I was 12.
1201
00:55:02,717 --> 00:55:03,885
And then after that?
1202
00:55:04,093 --> 00:55:05,720
Yeah, I wasn't raised
with her though.
1203
00:55:06,095 --> 00:55:07,722
- She snorts it or what?
- Yeah.
1204
00:55:07,930 --> 00:55:09,140
-She shoot it? 'No-
1205
00:55:09,307 --> 00:55:10,427
- she just snorts it?
- Yeah.
1206
00:55:10,516 --> 00:55:12,602
- I bet the house is clean, huh?
- Yep.
1207
00:55:13,102 --> 00:55:15,438
My mom used to drink before
she gave birth to me and
1208
00:55:15,605 --> 00:55:17,690
she fed me booze in my bottle
to put me to sleep
1209
00:55:17,857 --> 00:55:18,941
'cause I cried at night.
1210
00:55:20,443 --> 00:55:21,986
Penelope: That sucks,
doesn't it?
1211
00:55:22,153 --> 00:55:23,571
- So what?
- I liked it.
1212
00:55:23,738 --> 00:55:25,782
I'm glad. I'm an alcoholic,
I dig it.
1213
00:55:26,491 --> 00:55:28,576
You wanna say anything
to your mom right now?
1214
00:55:28,743 --> 00:55:31,537
Hi mom, thanks for making
me an alcoholic, I love you.
1215
00:55:32,121 --> 00:55:34,248
[Punk rock music playing]
1216
00:55:38,044 --> 00:55:39,420
Penelope: Where you live, man?
1217
00:55:41,297 --> 00:55:42,924
- On the street.
- On the street.
1218
00:55:43,591 --> 00:55:45,791
Penelope: How do you get
money to go to punk rock shows?
1219
00:55:45,843 --> 00:55:46,928
Panhandle.
1220
00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:48,888
Or a scam.
1221
00:55:50,223 --> 00:55:51,933
-You ever steal stuff? 'No-
1222
00:55:52,141 --> 00:55:53,309
- no?
- Don't steal.
1223
00:55:53,476 --> 00:55:54,477
What a good boy.
1224
00:55:54,769 --> 00:55:55,812
Why are you on the street?
1225
00:55:55,978 --> 00:55:57,331
'Cause I got kicked out
of my house
1226
00:55:57,355 --> 00:56:00,066
when I was nine years old for
setting my house on fire.
1227
00:56:01,150 --> 00:56:03,152
- For what?
- Setting my house on fire.
1228
00:56:03,319 --> 00:56:05,439
- Why'd you do that?
- I was trying to light a heater.
1229
00:56:05,822 --> 00:56:07,031
- It was an accident?
- Yeah.
1230
00:56:07,573 --> 00:56:09,367
- So your parents kicked you out?
- Yes.
1231
00:56:09,867 --> 00:56:12,411
They put me in a shelter home
1232
00:56:12,787 --> 00:56:13,955
and then forgot about me.
1233
00:56:14,121 --> 00:56:15,665
You've been on the street
ever since?
1234
00:56:15,832 --> 00:56:17,375
- Yes.
- Are you sad about that?
1235
00:56:18,084 --> 00:56:20,461
Not really... no.
1236
00:56:20,628 --> 00:56:21,988
Penelope: What do you do
every day?
1237
00:56:22,755 --> 00:56:24,298
I panhandle.
1238
00:56:25,091 --> 00:56:26,509
What do your parents do?
1239
00:56:26,717 --> 00:56:28,135
My parents?
My parents are bikers.
1240
00:56:28,636 --> 00:56:30,471
- You got a home right now?
- No.
1241
00:56:31,013 --> 00:56:33,516
- Why not?
- Why not? I lost my job and
1242
00:56:33,683 --> 00:56:35,810
couldn't afford the apartment
I was staying in.
1243
00:56:36,102 --> 00:56:37,422
Penelope: What's that
on your arm?
1244
00:56:37,562 --> 00:56:38,729
It's an anti-Swazi.
1245
00:56:38,980 --> 00:56:40,260
So you don't like the skinheads?
1246
00:56:40,356 --> 00:56:41,440
No, sure don't.
1247
00:56:42,024 --> 00:56:44,068
- You ever fight with them?
- Fight a lot with them.
1248
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,487
- Are they mean?
- They're pretty mean, yeah.
1249
00:56:47,446 --> 00:56:48,739
- Are you mean?
- Yeah.
1250
00:56:48,906 --> 00:56:50,575
- Are you angry?
- Right now?
1251
00:56:50,741 --> 00:56:53,661
- In general.
- No. Angry... hardened, yeah.
1252
00:56:54,287 --> 00:56:56,622
[Punk rock music playing]
1253
00:56:59,709 --> 00:57:01,752
Penelope: Can you describe
what the kids look like
1254
00:57:01,919 --> 00:57:03,170
that you see out there?
1255
00:57:07,300 --> 00:57:08,759
Most of them are the...
1256
00:57:09,051 --> 00:57:11,637
Spare change, what we call
gutter punks,
1257
00:57:12,889 --> 00:57:14,056
you know...
1258
00:57:14,891 --> 00:57:18,019
Look like they haven't been
eating much,
1259
00:57:18,185 --> 00:57:20,980
drink a lot,
probably take drugs.
1260
00:57:23,691 --> 00:57:25,151
Getting into
all sorts of trouble,
1261
00:57:25,318 --> 00:57:26,819
sleep in the street
type of thing.
1262
00:57:27,236 --> 00:57:29,614
Penelope: You guys ever
hear that name "gutter punks"?
1263
00:57:30,489 --> 00:57:32,783
- All: Yeah.
- What does that mean?
1264
00:57:33,409 --> 00:57:35,012
- Who live in the gutters?
- Dirty drunk fuckers
1265
00:57:35,036 --> 00:57:37,914
who like wander around and
terrorize people on the streets.
1266
00:57:39,123 --> 00:57:40,124
I don't know.
1267
00:57:40,333 --> 00:57:42,752
- Is that you?
- Pretty much, that's us.
1268
00:57:43,085 --> 00:57:44,462
Where are your parents?
1269
00:57:44,962 --> 00:57:46,464
Wherever.
1270
00:57:46,797 --> 00:57:48,174
- You don't know?
- I don't know.
1271
00:57:48,341 --> 00:57:49,967
- Do you ever talk to em?
- Nope.
1272
00:57:50,134 --> 00:57:51,969
- How old are you?
- 22.
1273
00:57:52,303 --> 00:57:54,805
-How long you been on the street
-since I was 13.
1274
00:57:56,265 --> 00:57:57,905
Penelope: Your parents know
where you are?
1275
00:57:57,934 --> 00:57:59,018
No.
1276
00:58:00,061 --> 00:58:01,938
When's the last time
you talked to 'em?
1277
00:58:02,229 --> 00:58:04,398
My mom disowned me,
my dad disowned me so...
1278
00:58:04,565 --> 00:58:06,400
- Why?
- Because...
1279
00:58:06,901 --> 00:58:08,903
They think I'm a freak!
1280
00:58:09,195 --> 00:58:10,964
So when you get all
these piercings and stuff,
1281
00:58:10,988 --> 00:58:12,428
where did you get the
money for that?
1282
00:58:12,531 --> 00:58:13,616
I do it myself.
1283
00:58:13,783 --> 00:58:15,242
- You do it yourself?
- Mm-hmm.
1284
00:58:15,493 --> 00:58:19,038
- Doesn't it get infected?
- Well, yeah. But it goes away.
1285
00:58:19,455 --> 00:58:20,935
What happened to your arm
right there?
1286
00:58:21,290 --> 00:58:23,960
A bunch of skinheads decided
to kick my ass,
1287
00:58:24,168 --> 00:58:27,296
put a motorcycle muffler
to my arm, so...
1288
00:58:28,965 --> 00:58:29,965
That was that.
1289
00:58:30,049 --> 00:58:32,051
- So you like skinheads?
- No.
1290
00:58:32,301 --> 00:58:35,513
[Laughs mischievously]
Not at all, to be honest. But...
1291
00:58:35,805 --> 00:58:39,725
- Where do you sleep every night?
- Here, there. I don't know.
1292
00:58:39,934 --> 00:58:43,896
- In the alleys or what?
- Alleys, rooftops, wherever.
1293
00:58:44,397 --> 00:58:45,690
Aren't you afraid out there?
1294
00:58:45,856 --> 00:58:47,376
Isn't anybody gonna
hurt you out there?
1295
00:58:48,943 --> 00:58:51,320
I don't think anybody could hurt
me any... I don't know...
1296
00:58:51,487 --> 00:58:53,906
I've been hurt enough so...
I don't think anybody...
1297
00:58:54,073 --> 00:58:56,354
Doesn't that make you sad
that you've been hurt that much?
1298
00:58:56,492 --> 00:58:57,493
No.
1299
00:58:58,119 --> 00:59:02,164
[Punk rock music playing]
1300
00:59:19,098 --> 00:59:22,852
[Punk rock music playing]
1301
00:59:30,526 --> 00:59:33,904
[Squatterpunk playing]
1302
00:59:38,034 --> 00:59:40,202
Woke up this morning
my squat ablaze
1303
00:59:40,369 --> 00:59:42,371
broke out through a window
in a half drunk haze
1304
00:59:42,538 --> 00:59:44,266
thought about the dead Nazi
from the night before
1305
00:59:44,290 --> 00:59:46,250
I like life this way
normal life is a bore
1306
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:51,505
knifed a guy in an alley
for hitting a friend
1307
00:59:51,672 --> 00:59:55,176
cops let us all go in the end
skinhead fight and I'm in jail
1308
00:59:55,342 --> 00:59:57,762
he's with the nurse
and I can't make bail
1309
00:59:58,179 --> 01:00:00,639
all this will be mine one day,
I love it.
1310
01:00:00,806 --> 01:00:02,058
Penelope: On tight.
1311
01:00:04,643 --> 01:00:06,979
Never thought I'd be
at gizmo's mom's house.
1312
01:00:07,855 --> 01:00:09,455
Penelope: Why do they call
you โeyeball?"
1313
01:00:10,191 --> 01:00:14,612
I sleep with one eye open
and a friend of mine was...
1314
01:00:15,821 --> 01:00:18,449
He was talking to me while I was
asleep, he thought I was awake.
1315
01:00:18,824 --> 01:00:20,701
And I was dead asleep actually.
1316
01:00:20,868 --> 01:00:22,411
My eye was half open,
1317
01:00:22,578 --> 01:00:24,705
you know, he's in some squat
and he's all...
1318
01:00:24,997 --> 01:00:26,665
โHey, man, come with us."
1319
01:00:26,832 --> 01:00:28,667
And, "let's go do this
and that, โ and...
1320
01:00:29,585 --> 01:00:32,213
I was totally oblivious to the
fact that he was talking to me,
1321
01:00:32,379 --> 01:00:34,340
and then I kind of
snored a little. [Snores]
1322
01:00:34,507 --> 01:00:35,758
You know...
1323
01:00:35,925 --> 01:00:37,927
He realized I was asleep, so,
1324
01:00:38,260 --> 01:00:40,262
he started calling me
โthe eyeball" guy.
1325
01:00:40,638 --> 01:00:43,099
You know, "that guy with
the eyeball...โ
1326
01:00:43,432 --> 01:00:44,892
it kind of stuck.
1327
01:00:45,267 --> 01:00:46,644
There's a good pile of stuff.
1328
01:00:46,811 --> 01:00:48,854
Gizmo's parents are
pack-rats, man.
1329
01:00:49,063 --> 01:00:50,439
Quick ease!
1330
01:00:51,065 --> 01:00:52,665
[Laughs mischievously]
What does that do?
1331
01:00:52,691 --> 01:00:54,860
- What room is this?
- This is the living room.
1332
01:00:56,612 --> 01:00:58,280
Oh, what's this? Oooh!
1333
01:01:00,366 --> 01:01:01,575
A cop doll.
1334
01:01:02,034 --> 01:01:03,577
We should do something
with this later.
1335
01:01:03,786 --> 01:01:05,996
Penelope: Margie, can you walk
to the TV?
1336
01:01:07,373 --> 01:01:09,083
[Laughs sheepishly] Yes, and no.
1337
01:01:09,250 --> 01:01:10,251
Show me.
1338
01:01:10,417 --> 01:01:13,587
- Can you walk over to your TV?
- Yeah.
1339
01:01:14,130 --> 01:01:16,590
Because, you know,
I know my house.
1340
01:01:17,633 --> 01:01:18,968
I'm not crazy.
1341
01:01:19,176 --> 01:01:20,970
Can eyeball walk over there?
1342
01:01:21,137 --> 01:01:22,721
You can come.
This way, this way.
1343
01:01:22,888 --> 01:01:24,056
Not this way, this way.
1344
01:01:24,223 --> 01:01:25,516
- This way?
- Okay
1345
01:01:25,683 --> 01:01:27,685
- I don't wanna.
- This way, this way.
1346
01:01:28,102 --> 01:01:29,186
That's okay.
1347
01:01:32,106 --> 01:01:33,524
Penelope: Well,
I love your house!
1348
01:01:34,316 --> 01:01:35,401
I hate it.
1349
01:01:35,651 --> 01:01:37,611
[Laughs]
1350
01:01:37,820 --> 01:01:39,780
And they wonder where
punk rockers come from.
1351
01:01:43,159 --> 01:01:44,952
Rehearsal room is right here.
1352
01:01:46,954 --> 01:01:48,497
Guys are out here...
1353
01:01:48,664 --> 01:01:51,292
There's...
According to the signs...
1354
01:01:51,458 --> 01:01:52,501
[Reading]
1355
01:01:55,838 --> 01:01:57,840
It says...
1356
01:02:02,678 --> 01:02:05,222
I was walking down the street
on Hollywood boulevard
1357
01:02:05,389 --> 01:02:07,829
and I was trying to get to work
and I was really pissed off...
1358
01:02:08,767 --> 01:02:11,353
'Cause there was a lotta people,
actually I was on a skateboard
1359
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,731
and there was iotta people
out there and...
1360
01:02:13,898 --> 01:02:15,709
I was just trying to get through
and I was like...
1361
01:02:15,733 --> 01:02:18,194
"I gotta get through,
gotta go to work, I'm late."
1362
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,573
[Humming beats] It just
started going through me.
1363
01:02:22,740 --> 01:02:23,925
And then I had to say,
"screw it.
1364
01:02:23,949 --> 01:02:25,719
"I'm gonna be late for work,"
'cause I had to stop
1365
01:02:25,743 --> 01:02:27,578
behind a building
and write a song.
1366
01:02:28,037 --> 01:02:29,788
[Punk rock music playing]
1367
01:02:29,955 --> 01:02:33,250
People just fuck with me
and I just don't know why
1368
01:02:33,417 --> 01:02:34,877
[singing indistinctly]
1369
01:02:46,805 --> 01:02:48,265
Penelope: Sean,
where do you live?
1370
01:02:48,891 --> 01:02:51,143
- Couch tour.
- Couch surfing.
1371
01:02:51,310 --> 01:02:53,854
- Couch tour.
- I live on the streets actually.
1372
01:02:54,021 --> 01:02:55,373
Penelope:
When you need to rehearse,
1373
01:02:55,397 --> 01:02:56,397
how do you get together?
1374
01:02:56,523 --> 01:02:58,084
We all know how to get a hold
of each other.
1375
01:02:58,108 --> 01:02:59,108
All: Yeah.
1376
01:02:59,193 --> 01:03:00,420
How do you get a hold
of each other?
1377
01:03:00,444 --> 01:03:02,696
Pagers or whatever.
1378
01:03:02,863 --> 01:03:04,740
We know the particular places
we couch tour at.
1379
01:03:04,907 --> 01:03:06,408
Sometimes it's real hard.
1380
01:03:06,575 --> 01:03:09,286
We're the only street punk band
in la.
1381
01:03:09,453 --> 01:03:11,139
We're the only ones
that live on the streets.
1382
01:03:11,163 --> 01:03:12,373
This one's squatterpunk.
1383
01:03:13,082 --> 01:03:14,959
[Punk music playing]
1384
01:03:44,321 --> 01:03:46,907
First time I actually stepped
into an abandoned building,
1385
01:03:47,074 --> 01:03:49,785
and went to sleep,
I was 14, I believe,
1386
01:03:49,952 --> 01:03:53,247
and I thought at the time,
I'm probably the only kid
1387
01:03:53,414 --> 01:03:55,791
in la or the United States
1388
01:03:55,958 --> 01:03:57,560
that's... living in an abandoned
building.
1389
01:03:57,584 --> 01:04:01,255
I didn't even know what a squat
was or anything like that,
1390
01:04:01,422 --> 01:04:02,464
you know...
1391
01:04:02,798 --> 01:04:04,508
- There's know a lot now.
- Yeah.
1392
01:04:05,175 --> 01:04:07,845
[Squatterpunk continues]
1393
01:04:18,689 --> 01:04:20,858
People that decide to live
on the streets
1394
01:04:21,025 --> 01:04:23,485
just because of the simple fact
they know they can't
1395
01:04:23,694 --> 01:04:25,821
exist in regular society,
they can't go on.
1396
01:04:25,988 --> 01:04:27,865
It's not because of them,
it's because of what
1397
01:04:28,032 --> 01:04:30,492
society has become, it's in
a decline, it's falling apart.
1398
01:04:31,827 --> 01:04:33,495
And writing of the youth who
1399
01:04:33,662 --> 01:04:35,789
can't buy houses and
can't get jobs,
1400
01:04:35,998 --> 01:04:38,500
they're not getting the
education they need, that is,
1401
01:04:39,543 --> 01:04:41,045
you know, that's basically
1402
01:04:41,211 --> 01:04:43,589
an inevitable fact of the future.
All systems collapse.
1403
01:04:44,298 --> 01:04:46,925
I think that there is inevitable
economically based
1404
01:04:47,092 --> 01:04:49,720
class war that's going to
happen in the United States.
1405
01:04:49,887 --> 01:04:53,098
I think the economic system has
taken the haves and have-nots
1406
01:04:53,265 --> 01:04:55,327
and separated the classes to
where it's just poor and rich
1407
01:04:55,351 --> 01:04:57,269
and the more middle class
is dying away.
1408
01:04:57,686 --> 01:04:59,813
Every society has
a rise and fall
1409
01:04:59,980 --> 01:05:01,523
and a beginning
and an end, you know.
1410
01:05:01,857 --> 01:05:04,109
And... it happened in Rome
1411
01:05:04,276 --> 01:05:06,612
it happened in england,
and it'll happen here.
1412
01:05:17,247 --> 01:05:19,375
Penelope: Punk is getting to
have bigger audiences
1413
01:05:19,541 --> 01:05:21,085
or smaller or what, right now?
1414
01:05:21,251 --> 01:05:22,669
Well, real punk is
1415
01:05:22,878 --> 01:05:25,672
getting smaller audiences and...
1416
01:05:25,881 --> 01:05:29,510
Like, the sell-out stuff is
getting bigger audiences.
1417
01:05:29,885 --> 01:05:33,305
The most that we've been able
to play for is probably 300.
1418
01:05:33,806 --> 01:05:35,516
- Maybe?
- Okay.
1419
01:05:35,724 --> 01:05:36,725
And the least?
1420
01:05:36,892 --> 01:05:38,492
When you've done a show,
the least people
1421
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,187
-that were ever there? 'Two-
1422
01:05:41,438 --> 01:05:43,273
Penelope: What if some record
company came and
1423
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,418
tried to sign you and give
you a bunch of money and...
1424
01:05:45,442 --> 01:05:46,944
How do you feel about that?
1425
01:05:47,444 --> 01:05:49,321
I mean, it's iffy, you know.
1426
01:05:49,488 --> 01:05:52,574
Am I gonna be their puppet
or am I gonna be able to...
1427
01:05:53,033 --> 01:05:54,326
To... you know...
1428
01:05:54,493 --> 01:05:56,703
- Money can't be an issue.
- Yeah, money's not...
1429
01:05:56,995 --> 01:05:59,164
What I'm concerned with,
what I'm concerned with is,
1430
01:05:59,373 --> 01:06:01,166
"am I gonna be able to say
what I want?"
1431
01:06:01,333 --> 01:06:04,002
What I wanna say isn't gonna
be playable on mtv!
1432
01:06:04,211 --> 01:06:07,381
I get more of a jolly out of...
Off of a...
1433
01:06:07,548 --> 01:06:10,426
Walking down the street, seeing
some kid I don't even know
1434
01:06:10,592 --> 01:06:12,761
and hear him sing lyrics
to my song,
1435
01:06:12,928 --> 01:06:15,889
you know, that's like way more
cool than
1436
01:06:16,056 --> 01:06:18,725
probably ever seeing
myself on mtv.
1437
01:06:19,393 --> 01:06:24,022
The major labels and...
And mtv...
1438
01:06:24,189 --> 01:06:26,400
And the radio stations,
they're afraid of this stuff,
1439
01:06:26,817 --> 01:06:27,818
you know.
1440
01:06:28,068 --> 01:06:30,779
It's like volatile chemicals,
you know.
1441
01:06:30,946 --> 01:06:32,156
- Watch mtv?
- Mix it with kids
1442
01:06:32,322 --> 01:06:33,322
and it's gonna blow up.
1443
01:06:33,407 --> 01:06:36,326
Anybody out here into bondage
or anything like that?
1444
01:06:36,493 --> 01:06:38,829
Pierced nipples, you know,
shit like that!
1445
01:06:39,204 --> 01:06:41,582
Penelope: So your main
priority in life is?
1446
01:06:41,748 --> 01:06:44,209
My band. Band before anything.
1447
01:06:44,793 --> 01:06:46,837
Band before my job,
band before bitches.
1448
01:06:47,004 --> 01:06:48,004
'Cause I love women,
1449
01:06:48,130 --> 01:06:50,215
and I don't want them to get
in the way of my band.
1450
01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:55,971
[Crowd clamoring]
1451
01:07:01,977 --> 01:07:04,021
Penelope:
Your girlfriend got beat up!
1452
01:07:04,771 --> 01:07:06,064
- Where's she at?
- She's okay.
1453
01:07:06,231 --> 01:07:08,231
- Shit! They kicked her out?
- Yeah. She's outside.
1454
01:07:11,570 --> 01:07:13,530
There's something about when
1455
01:07:13,697 --> 01:07:16,450
a woman comes, showing that...
1456
01:07:16,617 --> 01:07:19,995
Really tough side of her,
really turns me on.
1457
01:07:20,329 --> 01:07:21,809
Penelope: You know,
that's surprising.
1458
01:07:21,914 --> 01:07:24,100
I would think that you'd like
these wimpy chicks, you know?
1459
01:07:24,124 --> 01:07:25,792
No, I like tough chicks.
1460
01:07:26,210 --> 01:07:29,046
- Huh? I'm shocked.
- My girlfriend...
1461
01:07:29,713 --> 01:07:33,050
That one girlfriend you got now,
she's kind of like tough.
1462
01:07:33,217 --> 01:07:37,888
No actually she's got a...
She's got a little bit of a...
1463
01:07:38,931 --> 01:07:40,766
Tougher side in her than
I do, you know?
1464
01:07:40,933 --> 01:07:42,351
- She does?
- Yeah, I really think
1465
01:07:42,518 --> 01:07:45,479
it would be better off if
the world was run by women.
1466
01:07:45,687 --> 01:07:49,191
If I had a daughter, I would
love it if she's a lesbian,
1467
01:07:49,358 --> 01:07:53,153
because I don't trust guys and
I trust women a little bit more.
1468
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:54,696
See I love a strong woman and
1469
01:07:54,863 --> 01:07:56,990
I love to see a woman going
[Showing rage] over me.
1470
01:07:57,157 --> 01:07:59,326
- You do?
- Yeah, if she can kick my ass,
1471
01:07:59,493 --> 01:08:00,827
man, I can fall in love.
1472
01:08:02,246 --> 01:08:03,246
[Singing]
1473
01:08:16,468 --> 01:08:17,886
Penelope: Where do you work?
1474
01:08:20,764 --> 01:08:23,058
Right now, I have a job
doing phone sex.
1475
01:08:25,060 --> 01:08:26,621
Penelope: Does it
gross you out to do that?
1476
01:08:26,645 --> 01:08:28,855
Oh, yeah. I'm straight, so...
1477
01:08:29,398 --> 01:08:30,732
Oh, it's gay phone sex?
1478
01:08:30,899 --> 01:08:32,985
I had this guy that, you know,
he was...
1479
01:08:33,151 --> 01:08:35,404
He was obese,
he had an obesity problem.
1480
01:08:36,071 --> 01:08:37,823
He... he wanted to...
1481
01:08:38,323 --> 01:08:41,994
He was about 350 pounds.
He wanted to be 400 pounds.
1482
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,580
I mean, like, 500 pounds.
He wanted to hit five bills.
1483
01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:47,416
He would incorporate
food into sex, you know?
1484
01:08:47,666 --> 01:08:50,294
So things like...
"Let's pour honey
1485
01:08:50,460 --> 01:08:52,421
โor let's pour syrup
all over you."
1486
01:08:52,588 --> 01:08:55,132
"I think I'll roll you
in fruit loops.
1487
01:08:55,299 --> 01:08:56,842
"And eat em
of your ass," you know?
1488
01:08:57,009 --> 01:09:00,220
And he'd say, "eat em off
my flubbering ass," you know...
1489
01:09:01,638 --> 01:09:03,348
That guy was too much, man.
1490
01:09:03,515 --> 01:09:05,684
You don't get paid to do work
'cause you like it,
1491
01:09:06,101 --> 01:09:08,520
you know, you get paid
'cause you don't like it.
1492
01:09:10,230 --> 01:09:11,565
I hate my job.
1493
01:09:12,524 --> 01:09:13,525
[Singing]
1494
01:09:43,138 --> 01:09:46,850
Hit me, Pierce me, shave me
shame me, slap my sweaty balls
1495
01:09:47,142 --> 01:09:50,937
there's a whole world of pain
and I wanna feel it all
1496
01:09:55,692 --> 01:09:57,332
Penelope: When you guys
got in that wreck,
1497
01:09:57,361 --> 01:09:58,361
you were drinking a lot?
1498
01:09:59,029 --> 01:10:01,323
- Yeah.
- Yeah. Look in here.
1499
01:10:01,490 --> 01:10:03,867
Yeah. So it was six of us
in the car.
1500
01:10:04,034 --> 01:10:05,470
The girl that was driving
was drinking?
1501
01:10:05,494 --> 01:10:09,081
Yeah. She was to gettin' off
at the exit and she...
1502
01:10:09,456 --> 01:10:11,291
She swerved over
1503
01:10:11,458 --> 01:10:14,252
and hit the center divider
and that spun the car out.
1504
01:10:14,878 --> 01:10:16,880
And when the car started
spinning out and stuff,
1505
01:10:17,047 --> 01:10:19,174
I don't know, everybody was just
pretty beat.
1506
01:10:19,508 --> 01:10:21,301
And it flipped,
and I was like...
1507
01:10:21,468 --> 01:10:22,636
[Groaning]
1508
01:10:22,803 --> 01:10:25,430
Holding on to
shit and fuckin'...
1509
01:10:25,806 --> 01:10:27,808
And all of a sudden,
I hit my head and
1510
01:10:27,974 --> 01:10:30,602
blacked out and,
me and Mikey and
1511
01:10:30,852 --> 01:10:33,563
Ricky ticky, we all flew out
of the car.
1512
01:10:33,730 --> 01:10:35,524
And all I remember was...
1513
01:10:36,191 --> 01:10:38,485
Waking up on the dirt.
1514
01:10:39,403 --> 01:10:40,904
And I got up.
1515
01:10:42,197 --> 01:10:45,325
And I took two steps,
1516
01:10:46,284 --> 01:10:47,744
and I collapsed.
1517
01:10:49,121 --> 01:10:51,873
Stephanie, she got crushed
by the steering wheel.
1518
01:10:53,250 --> 01:10:54,250
And...
1519
01:10:55,919 --> 01:10:57,421
I got my back broken
1520
01:10:57,587 --> 01:10:59,631
and Mikey got fucked up and...
1521
01:11:01,007 --> 01:11:03,927
And Ricky ticky died and...
1522
01:11:04,886 --> 01:11:06,179
[Chokes up]
1523
01:11:06,513 --> 01:11:08,223
This one time,
1524
01:11:08,849 --> 01:11:10,934
after all of these years just...
1525
01:11:11,768 --> 01:11:12,978
It just fucked me up.
1526
01:11:13,311 --> 01:11:15,230
You know,
this is where I am today.
1527
01:11:16,481 --> 01:11:18,066
Penelope: So if you
could walk again?
1528
01:11:18,942 --> 01:11:20,302
Do you think you would
drink again?
1529
01:11:20,986 --> 01:11:23,655
I would drink
but I wouldn't drive.
1530
01:11:28,410 --> 01:11:30,454
Woman: I want one! I want one!
1531
01:11:39,254 --> 01:11:40,672
There he is.
1532
01:11:42,966 --> 01:11:45,886
[Punk rock song playing]
1533
01:11:46,678 --> 01:11:48,680
[Screaming]
1534
01:11:53,143 --> 01:11:55,270
[Indistinct talking]
1535
01:11:55,937 --> 01:11:57,981
Penelope: Wait, wait, wait.
Who is this?
1536
01:12:02,778 --> 01:12:05,655
Woman: Oh. Take three drinks!
1537
01:12:09,117 --> 01:12:12,162
Shut up, I'm tryin' to
fuckin' sleep.
1538
01:12:12,329 --> 01:12:13,371
[Coughing]
1539
01:12:18,794 --> 01:12:20,670
Man: Dude, you're pretty stupid.
Aren't you?
1540
01:12:27,928 --> 01:12:29,429
[Laughing]
1541
01:12:35,852 --> 01:12:37,771
Spoon: Not me! Not me!
1542
01:12:47,197 --> 01:12:49,324
Penelope: How many times
1543
01:12:49,533 --> 01:12:52,118
does this happen,
this kind of party?
1544
01:12:53,954 --> 01:12:56,832
Right, I don't know,
it's like every day.
1545
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:58,166
- Every day?
- Yeah.
1546
01:12:58,333 --> 01:13:00,460
Does it drive you crazy,
this is your house?
1547
01:13:00,627 --> 01:13:01,962
Well, sometimes, like...
1548
01:13:02,337 --> 01:13:03,839
Maybe tonight.
1549
01:13:04,172 --> 01:13:05,966
[Group screaming]
1550
01:13:07,050 --> 01:13:08,051
You sick?
1551
01:13:09,135 --> 01:13:10,220
Penelope: What do you need?
1552
01:13:12,472 --> 01:13:15,225
Man: Hey, rush, will you flush
the toilet by the way?
1553
01:13:18,353 --> 01:13:19,896
Penelope: Wait, wait, wait.
1554
01:13:20,063 --> 01:13:22,732
Where should I go...
I want to get some dinner.
1555
01:13:22,899 --> 01:13:27,279
I didn't get โtaco bellโ tattoo
on my knuckles for no reason.
1556
01:13:27,445 --> 01:13:28,725
Penelope:
You got a ticket today?
1557
01:13:28,780 --> 01:13:29,780
What did you get it for?
1558
01:13:29,865 --> 01:13:31,157
- Drinking.
- Being a wanker?
1559
01:13:31,366 --> 01:13:32,366
Drinking in public?
1560
01:13:32,492 --> 01:13:36,329
Yeah, I was drinking cider
and they made us pour it out.
1561
01:13:36,746 --> 01:13:38,415
So what did you do
with your ticket, man?
1562
01:13:38,582 --> 01:13:40,625
- I ate it.
- Right on.
1563
01:13:40,792 --> 01:13:42,472
Penelope: What did you get
your ticket for?
1564
01:13:42,544 --> 01:13:44,629
Fuckin' same shit.
Drinking cider.
1565
01:13:45,422 --> 01:13:46,464
Penelope: Right?
1566
01:13:46,882 --> 01:13:47,922
Squid: You guys, be quiet.
1567
01:13:48,008 --> 01:13:49,902
Penelope: Did I just see
you pukin' in the bathroom?
1568
01:13:49,926 --> 01:13:51,386
- Yes.
- Why were you doin' that?
1569
01:13:51,553 --> 01:13:54,681
'Cause I got cirrhosis and
I fuckin' can't drink that well.
1570
01:13:54,848 --> 01:13:56,808
Girl: Shut the fuck up, squid.
1571
01:14:00,562 --> 01:14:02,522
Penelope: How do you
get the money for this place?
1572
01:14:02,606 --> 01:14:06,109
My folks and...
I got disability.
1573
01:14:06,443 --> 01:14:07,819
- From the accident?
- Yeah.
1574
01:14:07,986 --> 01:14:10,572
How many people have their
own place to live?
1575
01:14:11,281 --> 01:14:13,783
[Group laughs]
1576
01:14:15,118 --> 01:14:16,453
Penelope: Hey, what's your name?
1577
01:14:17,412 --> 01:14:18,747
Steve, come and sit down man.
1578
01:14:23,293 --> 01:14:24,586
Penelope: Where's Steve?
1579
01:14:24,753 --> 01:14:26,113
Penelope: Steve, where
do you live?
1580
01:14:27,589 --> 01:14:29,309
- Spoon: In his Van.
- You live in your Van?
1581
01:14:29,424 --> 01:14:30,424
All right.
1582
01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:32,719
Well, we live right off
Hollywood, man.
1583
01:14:32,886 --> 01:14:34,304
We got a home,
we don't pay rent.
1584
01:14:34,471 --> 01:14:36,222
We got a nice apartment,
1585
01:14:36,765 --> 01:14:39,601
we got electricity,
radio, tapes.
1586
01:14:39,768 --> 01:14:41,186
We got a nice home!
1587
01:14:43,271 --> 01:14:44,874
Penelope: Don't you know
most of the people
1588
01:14:44,898 --> 01:14:46,178
in this country got electricity?
1589
01:14:46,232 --> 01:14:48,860
Yeah. But we don't even have to
collect welfare to get it.
1590
01:14:49,027 --> 01:14:50,236
We just steal it.
1591
01:14:50,445 --> 01:14:51,655
It's there, we take it.
1592
01:14:51,821 --> 01:14:53,865
Penelope: Steve,
where is your family?
1593
01:14:54,449 --> 01:14:55,492
Austin, Texas.
1594
01:14:55,951 --> 01:14:57,077
Austin, Texas?
1595
01:14:58,286 --> 01:14:59,579
Man: Aaaah!
1596
01:15:00,330 --> 01:15:01,957
Yeah, my dad's a pio.
1597
01:15:02,165 --> 01:15:04,834
- What does that mean?
- My brother's... he has his own
1598
01:15:05,001 --> 01:15:06,419
business like...
1599
01:15:06,586 --> 01:15:08,880
- Together: He's an investigator.
- He's a cop.
1600
01:15:09,881 --> 01:15:12,193
Penelope: Where are you all
gonna be in five years from now?
1601
01:15:12,217 --> 01:15:13,218
Drunk!
1602
01:15:13,385 --> 01:15:14,678
[Laughter]
1603
01:15:15,261 --> 01:15:17,555
[Punk rock music playing]
1604
01:15:30,527 --> 01:15:31,945
We love you, Penelope.
1605
01:15:32,112 --> 01:15:33,923
Penelope: You ever get these
people coming up say,
1606
01:15:33,947 --> 01:15:35,387
"thank you for
letting us hang here"?
1607
01:15:35,490 --> 01:15:36,783
Yeah.
1608
01:15:37,033 --> 01:15:39,233
Penelope: 'Cause I feel like
they care about you, a lot.
1609
01:15:39,369 --> 01:15:40,638
'Cause they were trying
to get you
1610
01:15:40,662 --> 01:15:41,847
to the hospital and everything.
1611
01:15:41,871 --> 01:15:43,415
Yeah... I know.
1612
01:15:43,581 --> 01:15:45,542
And I appreciate everyone
1613
01:15:45,875 --> 01:15:48,670
for helping me out and...
1614
01:15:48,837 --> 01:15:50,088
[Mumbling]
1615
01:15:50,296 --> 01:15:52,340
We love you, Darius!
1616
01:15:53,008 --> 01:15:55,427
Penelope: You guys care about
Darius or what?
1617
01:15:55,593 --> 01:15:57,804
Man: Hell, yeah! All: Yeah!
1618
01:15:57,971 --> 01:15:59,097
Man: More than he knows.
1619
01:15:59,264 --> 01:16:02,517
- More than he acknowledges, man.
- More than he wants to believe.
1620
01:16:02,767 --> 01:16:04,477
- Way more.
- Yes, stick it.
1621
01:16:04,894 --> 01:16:06,604
[Laughter]
1622
01:16:10,942 --> 01:16:13,737
Spoon: So they cleaned up most
of the bottles that they left.
1623
01:16:13,903 --> 01:16:15,071
Squid: This is for Stevie.
1624
01:16:15,905 --> 01:16:18,074
This is our shrine
that we made for him.
1625
01:16:18,241 --> 01:16:20,243
โFor you I shall spill
some of my beer
1626
01:16:20,410 --> 01:16:22,579
โI wish we could swill
and that you were here.โ
1627
01:16:29,252 --> 01:16:31,004
Squid: He would always drink
here and then
1628
01:16:31,171 --> 01:16:32,672
and it's gone to this, look.
1629
01:16:32,839 --> 01:16:35,175
That's Stevie's bed roll
right there.
1630
01:16:36,301 --> 01:16:37,302
[Reading]
1631
01:16:40,555 --> 01:16:42,265
Squid: Yeah, that's a good one.
1632
01:16:42,432 --> 01:16:44,184
I can think of a million people
1633
01:16:44,350 --> 01:16:46,227
that could've gone
instead of him,
1634
01:16:46,394 --> 01:16:47,937
me being one of them.
1635
01:16:48,104 --> 01:16:49,355
- What's your name?
- Steve.
1636
01:16:49,564 --> 01:16:51,775
Penelope: Steve, come here
and sit down, man.
1637
01:16:53,401 --> 01:16:54,944
So what do you know
about Stevie?
1638
01:16:55,570 --> 01:16:57,030
I've known him for years.
1639
01:16:57,197 --> 01:16:58,198
Penelope: How old was he?
1640
01:16:58,364 --> 01:16:59,866
Spoon: He had just turned 19.
1641
01:17:00,033 --> 01:17:01,785
Just a little boy,
that's all he was.
1642
01:17:02,243 --> 01:17:04,537
Feel like you wanna take him
under your wing.
1643
01:17:04,913 --> 01:17:06,331
And he used to go,
1644
01:17:06,664 --> 01:17:09,584
"dyin' over here,
dyin' over here.โ
1645
01:17:09,918 --> 01:17:11,836
and "woot! Is toilet out?"
1646
01:17:12,003 --> 01:17:13,046
Spoon: Knock ya fuck out.
1647
01:17:13,296 --> 01:17:15,924
I've had three people die this
month so far including him.
1648
01:17:16,091 --> 01:17:17,175
But I've never lost...
1649
01:17:17,342 --> 01:17:18,694
This is the first one
I've been in.
1650
01:17:18,718 --> 01:17:20,762
- A fire?
- Yeah. First squat fire.
1651
01:17:20,929 --> 01:17:23,181
We used to joke around
about it but...
1652
01:17:23,348 --> 01:17:24,474
Guess it ain't funny.
1653
01:17:24,641 --> 01:17:26,441
Penelope: Why do you
live in places like this?
1654
01:17:27,018 --> 01:17:28,162
I believe in squatter's rights
1655
01:17:28,186 --> 01:17:29,771
and I don't have
anywhere to stay.
1656
01:17:29,938 --> 01:17:31,858
Penelope: So how long were
you squatting in here?
1657
01:17:32,065 --> 01:17:33,065
About three weeks.
1658
01:17:33,191 --> 01:17:35,318
Me, Stevie and Billy
were upstairs.
1659
01:17:35,485 --> 01:17:36,945
Stevie just came back
to the squat
1660
01:17:37,112 --> 01:17:38,238
with his little puppy Ruth.
1661
01:17:38,404 --> 01:17:40,156
We'd been drinking all day,
he was with me.
1662
01:17:40,323 --> 01:17:42,700
We were about to come back here
and crash out too.
1663
01:17:42,867 --> 01:17:44,227
That skinhead guy,
what's his name?
1664
01:17:44,285 --> 01:17:45,787
Oh yeah, um, spooky.
1665
01:17:45,954 --> 01:17:47,914
And her and spooky
were down here.
1666
01:17:48,623 --> 01:17:50,333
Squid had got pissed because
1667
01:17:50,708 --> 01:17:54,420
this skinhead was swooping
on his girlfriend right.
1668
01:17:54,629 --> 01:17:56,673
So he went upstairs
to crash out.
1669
01:17:56,923 --> 01:17:59,843
I was up there and I was
coming down to check on him.
1670
01:18:00,009 --> 01:18:02,279
He decided to come down and see
if they were fuckin' or not,
1671
01:18:02,303 --> 01:18:03,447
you know, 'cause he was pissed.
1672
01:18:03,471 --> 01:18:04,931
Penelope: Who saw
the flames first?
1673
01:18:05,223 --> 01:18:06,223
I did.
1674
01:18:06,307 --> 01:18:08,393
Can you tell me what you did
at that point?
1675
01:18:09,185 --> 01:18:10,228
Freaked out!
1676
01:18:10,728 --> 01:18:13,356
I hit Stevie in the chest,
"squat fire!"
1677
01:18:13,523 --> 01:18:15,150
Penelope: Why wouldn't
Steve wake up?
1678
01:18:15,483 --> 01:18:17,861
All: Steve was too drunk.
He was drunk, so drunk.
1679
01:18:18,027 --> 01:18:20,864
I started grabbing all my stuff
'cause I had my pile laid out
1680
01:18:21,281 --> 01:18:24,117
and, like, just even
in that two seconds...
1681
01:18:25,451 --> 01:18:28,663
The flames were already poking
through the door up there.
1682
01:18:28,955 --> 01:18:32,542
Man: There was a squat candle
which is a lot of wax
1683
01:18:32,709 --> 01:18:35,962
that's put in to a can,
or a glass or an ashtray
1684
01:18:36,129 --> 01:18:38,840
or something. A wick put in it,
and just used, you know?
1685
01:18:39,007 --> 01:18:40,842
Squid: I ran out, threw my shit,
1686
01:18:41,009 --> 01:18:43,052
jumped on to the roof,
went down,
1687
01:18:43,219 --> 01:18:45,763
crossed the street, and I looked
and no one was coming out.
1688
01:18:45,930 --> 01:18:49,475
I tried to come back in.
But the smoke was too thick.
1689
01:18:49,684 --> 01:18:51,769
We saw the smoke from
Hollywood boulevard
1690
01:18:51,936 --> 01:18:53,354
and so we cruised down here
1691
01:18:53,521 --> 01:18:54,856
and we saw the place
was on fire.
1692
01:18:55,023 --> 01:18:56,107
It was fuckin' burning up.
1693
01:18:56,274 --> 01:18:58,943
When we were outside, we were
screaming at the firemen.
1694
01:18:59,152 --> 01:19:00,653
"There's people still in there."
1695
01:19:00,820 --> 01:19:02,405
That's why they went
upstairs first.
1696
01:19:04,073 --> 01:19:06,284
[Indistinct chatter]
1697
01:19:06,451 --> 01:19:09,370
[Girl sobbing]
1698
01:19:15,543 --> 01:19:16,669
Girl: Stevie!
1699
01:19:23,593 --> 01:19:26,262
[Girl continues sobbing]
1700
01:19:29,140 --> 01:19:30,475
Firemen: You all right, son?
1701
01:19:32,644 --> 01:19:34,270
Firemen: Don't take
this off yet.
1702
01:19:40,526 --> 01:19:42,237
Penelope: What happened
to the dog?
1703
01:19:42,403 --> 01:19:45,031
Got burned alive and then
found him and left him in here.
1704
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,951
They dragged him outside
over there to the front porch
1705
01:19:48,117 --> 01:19:49,553
and buried him,
next to the front porch.
1706
01:19:49,577 --> 01:19:50,620
Penelope: Who?
1707
01:19:50,787 --> 01:19:54,666
Here lays Ruth, the baddest
squat dog... ever.
1708
01:19:54,874 --> 01:19:57,168
Penelope: How come the dog
didn't run away, do you know?
1709
01:19:57,794 --> 01:20:00,296
Probably because
Stevie was holding on to him.
1710
01:20:01,256 --> 01:20:03,675
He was probably holding
on to him.
1711
01:20:03,841 --> 01:20:05,051
Man: Tied up or something?
1712
01:20:06,219 --> 01:20:09,430
Man: Although, when we found
the dog, it was close to Stevie.
1713
01:20:11,057 --> 01:20:12,767
[Slow music playing]
1714
01:20:27,949 --> 01:20:29,242
I just wanna go.
1715
01:20:33,579 --> 01:20:34,819
Penelope: You got an idea about
1716
01:20:34,872 --> 01:20:36,232
what you wanna be
when you grow up?
1717
01:20:36,332 --> 01:20:37,417
Not really.
1718
01:20:38,376 --> 01:20:41,212
Things are so fucked up
in this world, like...
1719
01:20:42,463 --> 01:20:43,506
It's-ii
1720
01:20:44,048 --> 01:20:45,758
there's really nothing that...
1721
01:20:45,925 --> 01:20:48,303
There's no goals right now,
not for me at least.
1722
01:20:48,970 --> 01:20:50,698
Penelope: What you gonna
do in five years, man?
1723
01:20:50,722 --> 01:20:52,056
I'll be drinkin'.
1724
01:20:52,682 --> 01:20:54,767
Drink myself to death,
that's what I'm gonna do.
1725
01:20:55,476 --> 01:20:57,246
Penelope: What are you gonna
do five years from now?
1726
01:20:57,270 --> 01:20:58,664
What are you gonna
make out of your life?
1727
01:20:58,688 --> 01:21:01,524
I'll probably be dead
in five years from now.
1728
01:21:02,025 --> 01:21:04,235
What do you think is gonna
happen to you in 10 years?
1729
01:21:04,861 --> 01:21:05,945
What're you gonna be doing?
1730
01:21:06,154 --> 01:21:08,489
I'll be dead in 10 years.
I'll be dead in five.
1731
01:21:10,325 --> 01:21:12,553
What you laughing at, Amanda?
What you gonna do in five years?
1732
01:21:12,577 --> 01:21:14,704
I'll be dead, too.
1733
01:21:15,455 --> 01:21:17,248
Penelope: Well,
does that make you feel bad?
1734
01:21:17,415 --> 01:21:18,458
No.
1735
01:21:19,167 --> 01:21:21,627
- You guys won't miss us.
- Yeah, no shit.
1736
01:21:22,170 --> 01:21:23,755
It's kinda sad, don't you think?
1737
01:21:23,921 --> 01:21:26,591
No. I'm not happy here.
1738
01:21:27,717 --> 01:21:29,917
Sooner I go the better, as far
as I'm concerned, really.
1739
01:21:30,303 --> 01:21:31,512
I don't live a happy life.
1740
01:21:32,555 --> 01:21:34,515
Penelope: Hey, what happened
to your eye, Amanda?
1741
01:21:35,308 --> 01:21:36,809
I got jumped by four people.
1742
01:21:36,976 --> 01:21:38,227
- No way.
- Yeah.
1743
01:21:38,394 --> 01:21:41,105
- When?
- Like, Friday.
1744
01:21:41,647 --> 01:21:42,982
You know carpe diem?
1745
01:21:43,274 --> 01:21:45,860
I take today,
I look to tomorrow, but...
1746
01:21:46,444 --> 01:21:48,363
I ain't plannin' 10 years ahead.
1747
01:21:49,530 --> 01:21:52,116
I'm not gonna go look for a job
but if a job finds me,
1748
01:21:52,283 --> 01:21:53,283
I'll take it.
1749
01:21:53,576 --> 01:21:55,286
Penelope: You're gonna enter
the workplace?
1750
01:21:56,496 --> 01:21:57,497
Yeah, I'll try!
1751
01:21:57,663 --> 01:21:59,374
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I am, I am.
1752
01:21:59,582 --> 01:22:00,917
You're gonna enter
the workplace?
1753
01:22:01,084 --> 01:22:02,293
- Yeah.
- All right.
1754
01:22:02,460 --> 01:22:05,171
- [Man guffaws]
- Fuck you, dude.
1755
01:22:07,757 --> 01:22:09,677
Penelope: What are you
gonna be when you grow up?
1756
01:22:12,095 --> 01:22:14,514
A cook? I don't know.
1757
01:22:15,098 --> 01:22:16,432
Something. I don't know.
1758
01:22:18,976 --> 01:22:20,603
Gas station guy. I don't know.
1759
01:22:21,729 --> 01:22:23,523
You seem like kind of a
hopeful person.
1760
01:22:24,273 --> 01:22:25,274
I try to be.
1761
01:22:26,359 --> 01:22:27,610
Even though you're homeless?
1762
01:22:27,777 --> 01:22:30,029
Yeah. I try to be...
Look for the best, you know?
1763
01:22:30,196 --> 01:22:31,882
Don't you get depressed
out there on the street?
1764
01:22:31,906 --> 01:22:35,034
Yeah, sometimes. But other times
I just feel... you know...
1765
01:22:35,618 --> 01:22:37,161
I'm strong,
I can make it through.
1766
01:22:38,204 --> 01:22:39,205
We're the cockroaches.
1767
01:22:39,372 --> 01:22:41,412
We're the ones who're gonna
live through everything.
1768
01:22:43,126 --> 01:22:45,562
Penelope: So when the world's
over, when everything has ended,
1769
01:22:45,586 --> 01:22:46,796
then there's only gonna be...
1770
01:22:48,714 --> 01:22:53,177
[Punk rock song playing]
1771
01:24:34,487 --> 01:24:36,280
Sorry about that, hey, man.
1772
01:24:37,406 --> 01:24:38,741
[Slow music playing]
1773
01:24:59,220 --> 01:25:03,015
[Punk rock song playing]
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