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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:02:09,332 --> 00:02:14,754 When the Second World War was over, we were the one great power in the world. 2 00:02:14,837 --> 00:02:17,924 The Soviets had a substantial military machine, 3 00:02:18,007 --> 00:02:21,427 but they could not touch us in power. 4 00:02:21,511 --> 00:02:24,305 We had this enormous force that had been built up. 5 00:02:24,430 --> 00:02:27,099 We had the greatest fleet in the world. 6 00:02:27,183 --> 00:02:31,437 We'd come through the war economically sound. 7 00:02:31,521 --> 00:02:37,360 And I think that, in addition to feeling a sense of responsibility, 8 00:02:37,443 --> 00:02:40,780 we also began to feel... 9 00:02:40,863 --> 00:02:44,450 the-the sense of a world power, 10 00:02:44,534 --> 00:02:49,664 that possibly we could control the future of the world. 11 00:03:34,792 --> 00:03:39,046 Our vision of progress is not limited to our own country. 12 00:03:39,130 --> 00:03:42,258 We extend it to all the peoples of the world. 13 00:03:46,053 --> 00:03:48,890 Military action in Indochina. 14 00:03:48,973 --> 00:03:52,768 French regulars land along the coast in search of roving communist bands. 15 00:03:52,894 --> 00:03:56,063 For France, it represents a tremendous sacrifice... 16 00:03:56,189 --> 00:03:58,816 of manpower and financial resources. 17 00:03:58,941 --> 00:04:01,611 Without American help, the burden would be too great. 18 00:04:13,331 --> 00:04:18,586 I do not expect that there is going to be a communist victory in Indochina. 19 00:04:54,872 --> 00:04:58,376 I affirm that Secretary Dulles... 20 00:04:58,501 --> 00:05:02,129 offered me two atomic bombs. 21 00:05:02,213 --> 00:05:04,340 Two, uh... 22 00:05:07,093 --> 00:05:10,179 Neither one, neither three. Two. 23 00:05:12,306 --> 00:05:17,687 If Indochina goes, several things happen right away. 24 00:05:17,812 --> 00:05:22,692 The Accra Peninsula, the little bit of end hanging on down there... 25 00:05:22,817 --> 00:05:25,153 would be scarcely defensible. 26 00:05:25,236 --> 00:05:27,029 The tin and the tungsten... 27 00:05:27,155 --> 00:05:31,117 that we so greatly value from that area would cease coming. 28 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,494 We don't see the end of the tunnel, but, uh, I must say... 29 00:05:33,619 --> 00:05:37,999 I don't think it's darker than it was a year ago, in some ways lighter. Yes? 30 00:05:38,082 --> 00:05:41,502 So we must be ready to fight in Vietnam, 31 00:05:41,586 --> 00:05:45,506 but the ultimate victory will depend upon the hearts... 32 00:05:45,590 --> 00:05:50,344 and the minds of the people who actually live out there. 33 00:05:50,470 --> 00:05:52,388 Throughout the war in Vietnam, 34 00:05:52,472 --> 00:05:55,766 the United States has exercised a degree of restraint... 35 00:05:55,892 --> 00:05:58,352 unprecedented in the annals of war. 36 00:07:08,464 --> 00:07:11,926 There was just one thing, 37 00:07:12,009 --> 00:07:16,472 one small word that enabled myself and my buddies... 38 00:07:16,597 --> 00:07:19,475 to stay alive those many years. 39 00:07:19,559 --> 00:07:22,436 That one thing was faith. 40 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:27,441 Faith in my family, my God and my country. 41 00:07:28,985 --> 00:07:33,156 I remembered high school. I remembered playing sports there. 42 00:07:33,281 --> 00:07:35,741 And I can remember my coach saying... 43 00:07:35,867 --> 00:07:39,287 "When the going gets tough, the tough get going, 44 00:07:39,370 --> 00:07:42,665 because winners never quit and quitters never win." 45 00:07:42,790 --> 00:07:45,251 Why did I go to Vietnam? 46 00:07:45,334 --> 00:07:50,006 I will have to go back to 1965, when I was 22 years old. 47 00:07:50,131 --> 00:07:54,302 At that time, communism was once again trying to muscle its way... 48 00:07:54,385 --> 00:07:56,471 into a free country. 49 00:08:00,349 --> 00:08:03,519 That would assert that there's a majority of people in that country... 50 00:08:03,644 --> 00:08:06,022 that want to be communist. 51 00:08:06,147 --> 00:08:08,274 Why do they need us then? 52 00:08:08,357 --> 00:08:14,572 Because they were subjected to, uh, military attack from outside. 53 00:08:14,697 --> 00:08:18,826 Uh, the, uh... 54 00:08:18,951 --> 00:08:22,663 Are you really asking me this goddamn silly question? 55 00:08:22,747 --> 00:08:25,583 - You really want me to go into this? - Yes. 56 00:08:25,708 --> 00:08:28,836 I mean... I mean, you know, we really got to go back to... 57 00:08:28,961 --> 00:08:31,756 You just want me to go back to the origins of this thing then. 58 00:08:31,881 --> 00:08:36,302 All right, I'll do it, but this is pretty pedestrian stuff, I must say, 59 00:08:36,385 --> 00:08:38,513 at this late stage of the game. 60 00:08:38,638 --> 00:08:40,807 Honestly it is. 61 00:08:40,890 --> 00:08:42,809 I'll do it. All right. 62 00:08:42,892 --> 00:08:45,311 - There's disagreement about the origins. - No, there's not. 63 00:08:45,394 --> 00:08:47,563 No, there's not. There's no doubt. 64 00:08:47,688 --> 00:08:51,859 All right, I'll answer your question, you can throw away that tape. 65 00:08:51,943 --> 00:08:55,780 I didn't expect to have to go back to this kind of sophomoric stuff, 66 00:08:55,905 --> 00:08:58,866 but I'll do it. 67 00:08:58,950 --> 00:09:04,539 The problem, uh, began, uh, 68 00:09:04,664 --> 00:09:07,542 in its present phase, after the Sputnik, 69 00:09:07,625 --> 00:09:12,088 the launch of the Sputnik in 1957, October. 70 00:09:12,171 --> 00:09:16,843 This opened a phase of not well-coordinated, 71 00:09:16,926 --> 00:09:20,972 but universally optimistic and hopeful communist enterprise... 72 00:09:21,097 --> 00:09:23,224 in many parts of the world. 73 00:09:23,307 --> 00:09:26,727 Renewed hostile actions... 74 00:09:26,811 --> 00:09:31,440 against United States ships on the high seas in the Gulf of Tonkin... 75 00:09:31,566 --> 00:09:37,280 have today required me to order military forces of the United States... 76 00:09:37,405 --> 00:09:40,199 to take action in reply. 77 00:09:40,283 --> 00:09:44,871 We always hesitate in public to use the word "lie" but a lie is a lie. 78 00:09:44,954 --> 00:09:48,416 I mean, it's a misrepresentation of fact. 79 00:09:48,499 --> 00:09:52,795 And it's supposed to be a criminal act if its done under oath. 80 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,424 Mr. Johnson didn't say it under oath, he just said it. 81 00:09:56,549 --> 00:09:59,594 We don't usually have the president under oath. 82 00:09:59,719 --> 00:10:04,974 There are those who ask why this responsibility should be ours. 83 00:10:05,099 --> 00:10:07,810 The answer, I think, is simple. 84 00:10:07,935 --> 00:10:11,314 There is no one else who can do the job. 85 00:10:11,397 --> 00:10:14,984 If necessary, I am ready to go back. 86 00:10:15,109 --> 00:10:17,737 We all must be ready. 87 00:10:17,820 --> 00:10:22,408 You must have the political, economic and philosophical courage to send me... 88 00:10:22,492 --> 00:10:25,161 or do whatever you think is necessary. 89 00:10:25,286 --> 00:10:28,623 I must be ready to go. If I did well, 90 00:10:28,706 --> 00:10:31,792 it is only because Linden did well in bringing me up... 91 00:10:31,918 --> 00:10:35,421 and making me into a man. 92 00:10:35,505 --> 00:10:38,132 If I served the military well, 93 00:10:38,257 --> 00:10:42,178 it is only because the military trained me to be a good officer. 94 00:10:43,346 --> 00:10:45,640 If I am a good American, 95 00:10:45,765 --> 00:10:50,520 it is only because America brought me up to be a good American. 96 00:10:50,645 --> 00:10:55,149 - Three, two, one... 97 00:10:55,274 --> 00:10:57,860 It was a sight to touch the heart of the most callous. 98 00:10:57,985 --> 00:11:01,864 Lieutenant George Coker was back in Linden, New Jersey, the hero of the day. 99 00:11:01,989 --> 00:11:04,826 Three thousand people turned out to greet him. Schools were closed... 100 00:11:04,909 --> 00:11:07,537 and streets were blocked as the young former prisoner of war... 101 00:11:07,662 --> 00:11:10,832 walked on a red carpet to the steps of city hall. 102 00:11:10,957 --> 00:11:14,001 Mike is still open. Two, one... 103 00:11:14,126 --> 00:11:17,713 I'm from Duncan, Oklahoma, which is about 90 miles south of here. 104 00:11:17,839 --> 00:11:21,300 And, uh, and I lived around several places... 105 00:11:21,425 --> 00:11:25,847 uh, Missouri, Chicago, Detroit, uh, Germany, 106 00:11:27,056 --> 00:11:29,809 Uh... 107 00:11:29,892 --> 00:11:32,603 by the time I got out of high school, I was very conservative. 108 00:11:32,728 --> 00:11:35,439 We have, in Duncan high school... we bought... 109 00:11:35,565 --> 00:11:38,151 the high school had bought a, uh... 110 00:11:38,234 --> 00:11:40,862 Excuse me... a John Birch package on communism. 111 00:11:40,945 --> 00:11:43,281 So we studied communism via the John Birch Society, 112 00:11:43,406 --> 00:11:47,994 the big red map with the flowing out of the disease and so forth, 113 00:11:48,077 --> 00:11:51,122 and-and learned how Karl Marx was a very cruel man... 114 00:11:51,247 --> 00:11:54,667 and used to, uh, make his family suffer and so forth. 115 00:11:54,750 --> 00:11:59,672 Uh, so when I got out of high school, I thought basically that, um, 116 00:11:59,755 --> 00:12:01,799 Teddy Roosevelt's what this country needed, 117 00:12:01,924 --> 00:12:04,844 and F.D.R. had kind of sold us down the drain to the commies. 118 00:12:04,927 --> 00:12:08,055 The communist conspiracy is a deliberate and predictable plan of action... 119 00:12:08,181 --> 00:12:10,099 to subvert the world. 120 00:12:10,183 --> 00:12:12,894 Mosinee, Wisconsin, in a unique Mayday object lesson, 121 00:12:12,977 --> 00:12:16,564 shows what could happen here if communism took over. 122 00:12:16,689 --> 00:12:20,359 The unyielding chief of police is liquidated by American Legionnaires... 123 00:12:20,443 --> 00:12:22,570 portraying Red trigger men. 124 00:12:24,697 --> 00:12:28,326 A grim demonstration of what subversion could lead to, 125 00:12:28,451 --> 00:12:33,080 Mosinee's Mayday serves as a sharp warning to all democratic communities. 126 00:12:33,206 --> 00:12:37,460 It's an international, criminal conspiracy. 127 00:12:37,585 --> 00:12:40,421 Before we know it, we're gonna turn our backs around someday, 128 00:12:40,505 --> 00:12:43,549 the whole United States, we're gonna turn around and see nothing but V. C... 129 00:12:43,633 --> 00:12:46,636 or not V.C., but communism... we're gonna turn around and say, "What happened?" 130 00:12:46,719 --> 00:12:49,263 People just walking in with riots, drugs, you name it. 131 00:12:49,347 --> 00:12:51,390 They're tearing us down from the inside out. 132 00:12:51,474 --> 00:12:56,103 In 1917, when the communists overthrew the Russian government, 133 00:12:56,187 --> 00:13:01,317 there was 1 communist for every 2,277 persons... 134 00:13:01,442 --> 00:13:03,319 in Russia. 135 00:13:03,444 --> 00:13:06,239 In the United States today, there is one communist... 136 00:13:06,322 --> 00:13:11,285 for every 1,814 persons in this country. 137 00:13:11,410 --> 00:13:15,873 If we lose Indochina, Mr. Jenkins, we will lose the Pacific, 138 00:13:15,998 --> 00:13:19,460 and we'll be an island in a communist sea. 139 00:13:19,585 --> 00:13:22,964 - Go ahead, how does it go? - Oh, mother. 140 00:13:24,757 --> 00:13:26,717 I swear that I am not now... 141 00:13:26,843 --> 00:13:30,680 or ever have been a member of the communist party. 142 00:13:30,805 --> 00:13:33,266 Feel better? 143 00:13:34,684 --> 00:13:36,769 Of course, when it gets down to communism, uh, 144 00:13:36,853 --> 00:13:39,689 I've been fighting communism since 1951, actually. 145 00:13:39,814 --> 00:13:44,694 I was looked at, you know, the American fighting man, as being, uh, you know, 146 00:13:44,819 --> 00:13:49,574 like a warrior of sorts, you know, due to my background, 147 00:13:49,699 --> 00:13:51,576 the way my mother brought me up. 148 00:13:51,701 --> 00:13:55,163 She always spoke of the warrior societies of our tribe... 149 00:13:55,288 --> 00:13:58,457 and of the different tribes around us and how that these men... 150 00:13:58,541 --> 00:14:02,420 always had to work to gain the respect of the people around them... 151 00:14:02,545 --> 00:14:07,008 and how they had to live, uh, more or less a life dictated to them... 152 00:14:07,091 --> 00:14:10,720 by the society that they belonged to, and it was extremely hard. 153 00:14:10,845 --> 00:14:16,142 I-I looked around and from listening to my uncles and a lot of my relations... 154 00:14:16,225 --> 00:14:19,145 they had been in the Marine Corps... and they always told me that... 155 00:14:19,228 --> 00:14:23,191 the Marine Corps was the hardest service to cope with physically and mentally. 156 00:14:23,274 --> 00:14:26,110 And I naturally wanted to be the best at that time, 157 00:14:26,235 --> 00:14:29,530 and I looked at the Marine Corps as being the elite of the elite, 158 00:14:29,655 --> 00:14:32,033 the warrior society in the United States. 159 00:14:32,116 --> 00:14:36,871 Now it might sound clich�-ish to say that, 160 00:14:36,996 --> 00:14:41,417 "My country, may it always be right, but right or wrong, my country." 161 00:14:41,542 --> 00:14:44,545 But that's how I felt back in '67. 162 00:14:44,670 --> 00:14:47,340 And during my senior year, 163 00:14:47,423 --> 00:14:51,719 I said I've got an obligation to serve. 164 00:14:51,844 --> 00:14:54,222 I've got to fulfill it. 165 00:14:54,305 --> 00:14:58,392 There's no reason physically why I would be exempted, 166 00:14:58,518 --> 00:15:01,938 and therefore, I'm gonna enlist. 167 00:15:26,254 --> 00:15:28,214 - What you got there? - Picture. 168 00:15:28,297 --> 00:15:30,216 Picture? How much picture? 169 00:15:30,299 --> 00:15:34,095 - Three thousand? - I go beaucoup hungry. I sell 3,000. 170 00:15:34,220 --> 00:15:37,557 - You go here, too much money. - I buy watch for 1,500. 171 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,102 No, you sell to me? You lie. You lie, you die. 172 00:15:41,227 --> 00:15:44,105 - You give massage? What else you give? - Yes. 173 00:15:44,188 --> 00:15:46,649 Huh? 174 00:15:46,732 --> 00:15:50,278 - I buy you one beer, okay? - You-You buy me one beer? 175 00:15:50,361 --> 00:15:52,613 No, no. No money. Go home, mama-san. 176 00:15:52,738 --> 00:15:56,617 Please, go home, mama-san. 177 00:15:56,701 --> 00:15:59,579 No. Go home, mama-san. 178 00:15:59,662 --> 00:16:03,499 No. Go home, mama-san. Okay? No. Go home, mama-san. 179 00:16:03,624 --> 00:16:06,210 - You will like. - No. No. 180 00:16:11,340 --> 00:16:13,968 Huh? 181 00:16:14,093 --> 00:16:16,137 - How much? - One thousand. 182 00:16:16,220 --> 00:16:19,515 You? Ah, it's too much. Beaucoup. 183 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,685 Yeah, for sure. No, no good. 184 00:17:25,456 --> 00:17:30,503 We thought of ourselves, I think, as trying to defeat communists. 185 00:17:30,586 --> 00:17:35,299 Defeat... Accepting a view of, uh... the Walt Rostow kind of view... 186 00:17:35,424 --> 00:17:38,052 of covert aggression of some kind. 187 00:17:38,136 --> 00:17:40,930 The kind of view that enabled you to think of the conflict... 188 00:17:41,055 --> 00:17:43,015 in, really, World War II terms. 189 00:17:43,099 --> 00:17:45,017 That was an unquestioned assumption. 190 00:17:45,101 --> 00:17:47,520 It had an idealistic flavor to it, 191 00:17:47,603 --> 00:17:51,440 but it was the underpinning of an imperial policy, basically. 192 00:17:51,566 --> 00:17:56,779 I shared the assumption, very easily, and felt it as an idealistic one really. 193 00:17:56,904 --> 00:17:58,781 We were doing something for them. 194 00:17:58,906 --> 00:18:02,577 I recall that I was in the New York area at the time, 195 00:18:02,702 --> 00:18:08,249 and I stopped by to see General MacArthur, who I had known for several years. 196 00:18:09,876 --> 00:18:14,255 Uh, when he greeted me, he made, uh, quite a prophetic statement. 197 00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:20,428 He said, "Westmoreland, I-I see you have a new job." 198 00:18:21,971 --> 00:18:25,933 He said, "I hope you appreciate that this new assignment... 199 00:18:27,351 --> 00:18:31,606 is filled with opportunities, but fraught with hazards." 200 00:18:31,689 --> 00:18:35,610 And indeed, uh, this was a prophetic statement. 201 00:18:56,088 --> 00:18:58,508 It can be described much like, uh... 202 00:18:58,633 --> 00:19:02,970 a-a-a singer doing an aria... 203 00:19:03,054 --> 00:19:06,724 that's totally into what he's doing, you know, totally feeling it. 204 00:19:06,849 --> 00:19:09,560 He knows the aria, and he's experiencing the aria. 205 00:19:09,685 --> 00:19:14,106 And he knows his limits, and he knows whether he's doing it and doing it well. 206 00:19:14,232 --> 00:19:16,651 Flying an aircraft can be a great deal like that. 207 00:19:16,734 --> 00:19:18,653 What's a race driver feel like? 208 00:19:18,736 --> 00:19:21,531 Why does a guy want to drive in the Indianapolis 500? 209 00:19:21,656 --> 00:19:23,991 I guess, perhaps, the risk of dying, 210 00:19:24,116 --> 00:19:26,327 being killed is part of it that makes it thrilling. 211 00:19:30,998 --> 00:19:34,627 I can tell when the aircraft feels right, when it's about to stall. 212 00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:38,339 I can tell when I cant pull another fraction of a pound... 213 00:19:38,464 --> 00:19:41,968 or the airplane will stall, flip out and spin on me. 214 00:19:42,051 --> 00:19:45,096 I would follow a pathway on something like a TV screen in front of me... 215 00:19:45,221 --> 00:19:47,640 that would direct me right, left or center... 216 00:19:47,723 --> 00:19:50,852 follow the steering, keep the steering symbol, uh, centered. 217 00:19:50,977 --> 00:19:54,438 I'd see a little attack light when we'd stepped into attack. 218 00:19:54,564 --> 00:19:59,527 I could pull the "commit" switch on my stick, and the computer took over. 219 00:19:59,610 --> 00:20:03,322 A computer figured out the ballistics, the airspeed, the slant range... 220 00:20:03,406 --> 00:20:05,491 and dropped the bombs when we got to the appropriate point, 221 00:20:05,575 --> 00:20:07,702 in whichever kind of attack we'd selected, 222 00:20:07,785 --> 00:20:11,914 whether it was flying straight and level or tossing our bombs out. 223 00:20:12,039 --> 00:20:15,710 So it was very much of a technical expertise thing. 224 00:20:15,835 --> 00:20:19,005 I was a good pilot, you know. I had, uh, uh, 225 00:20:19,088 --> 00:20:21,340 I had a lot of pride in my ability to fly. 226 00:20:26,471 --> 00:20:29,056 You're up there doing something that, uh, 227 00:20:29,140 --> 00:20:33,728 mankind has only dreamed of; the flying, especially at night, in an aircraft. 228 00:20:33,811 --> 00:20:37,273 The A-6 is one of the few that can really do it the way we did it. 229 00:20:37,398 --> 00:20:41,110 Um, a World War II aviator would not even dream of doing the things we did. 230 00:20:41,235 --> 00:20:43,196 It's definitely the ultimate in aviation. 231 00:20:56,542 --> 00:20:59,962 Almost everybody has blown off firecrackers. 232 00:21:00,087 --> 00:21:03,132 The thrill you get when you see something explode as a child, 233 00:21:03,257 --> 00:21:05,384 or even as an adult almost. 234 00:21:05,468 --> 00:21:08,387 You put something in the can and watch the can blow up in the air. 235 00:21:14,685 --> 00:21:17,355 And the excitement, the sense of excitement, 236 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,441 especially if you're getting shot at, is just incredible. 237 00:21:22,693 --> 00:21:24,987 You get there, have a real good mission, hit your target, 238 00:21:25,112 --> 00:21:27,657 find out later your target was totally destroyed, 239 00:21:27,782 --> 00:21:31,118 that it wasn't one of these misses or almost, you got it. 240 00:21:31,202 --> 00:21:36,082 And come back and make a night carrier landing recovery. Uh, that's fantastic. 241 00:21:36,165 --> 00:21:39,293 To say it's thrilling, yes, it's deeply satisfying. 242 00:21:53,432 --> 00:21:56,185 The planes again. 243 00:21:56,310 --> 00:22:00,148 Are they American or Vietnamese? 244 00:22:00,273 --> 00:22:04,443 I don't know whose they are. Just airplanes. 245 00:22:07,947 --> 00:22:10,491 What was this here? 246 00:22:10,616 --> 00:22:13,161 I used to raise pigs here, right there. 247 00:22:15,746 --> 00:22:20,334 Where was the kitchen? 248 00:22:24,213 --> 00:22:27,008 The kitchen was here. They built it with bricks. 249 00:22:27,091 --> 00:22:30,178 This was the floor. And this was for the heat. 250 00:22:30,261 --> 00:22:32,847 What's that? 251 00:22:32,930 --> 00:22:34,932 That is the bomb crater. 252 00:22:35,057 --> 00:22:38,478 The bombs dropped there and destroyed everything I had. 253 00:22:43,774 --> 00:22:48,237 An older sister died, and I've another older sister left. 254 00:22:48,321 --> 00:22:51,324 Yes, there were just the three of us. But then one died. 255 00:22:51,407 --> 00:22:54,577 And I'm supposed to live in a house over there. 256 00:22:56,454 --> 00:22:59,373 But now it's just a heap of rubble. 257 00:22:59,457 --> 00:23:03,711 How old was your sister? 258 00:23:03,795 --> 00:23:06,172 Seventy-eight. 259 00:23:06,255 --> 00:23:09,675 What did she die of? 260 00:23:09,759 --> 00:23:12,345 Bombs. Bombs were dropped here the other day, 261 00:23:12,428 --> 00:23:14,430 and they killed her. 262 00:23:24,232 --> 00:23:26,275 I'm so unhappy. 263 00:23:35,368 --> 00:23:38,329 My sister died and I've got no home left. 264 00:23:38,454 --> 00:23:40,832 I've moved in with my sister here. 265 00:23:43,751 --> 00:23:45,711 I've been wounded. 266 00:23:48,381 --> 00:23:53,094 I can't do anything for a living now. I'm old and weak. 267 00:23:53,177 --> 00:23:57,598 I've got nothing to sell. Nothing to do. 268 00:24:23,499 --> 00:24:25,543 Mm. 269 00:24:31,007 --> 00:24:33,426 You really just don't have time for personal thoughts... 270 00:24:33,509 --> 00:24:36,971 when you're up there flying around at 500, 600 miles an hours. 271 00:24:37,054 --> 00:24:39,432 You might call it an electronic war in a certain way. 272 00:24:39,515 --> 00:24:41,642 I didn't have time to think about anything else. 273 00:24:41,767 --> 00:24:44,979 If you wanted to later, you might. But it was all business. 274 00:24:45,104 --> 00:24:47,398 It's, um, just strictly professionalism. 275 00:24:47,523 --> 00:24:49,817 We had a job to do and we did it. 276 00:24:49,942 --> 00:24:53,070 Never could see the people. You never could see... 277 00:24:53,196 --> 00:24:56,199 Occasionally you saw the houses when you were bombing around a village... 278 00:24:56,324 --> 00:24:58,367 or bombing in a village. 279 00:24:58,493 --> 00:25:00,745 Uh, you never heard the explosion. 280 00:25:00,870 --> 00:25:04,165 You never saw any blood or any screams. It was very clean. 281 00:25:04,290 --> 00:25:07,502 You're doing a job. 282 00:25:07,627 --> 00:25:10,004 You're an expert at what you do. 283 00:25:13,466 --> 00:25:15,593 I was a technician. 284 00:25:20,515 --> 00:25:23,476 Everything just collapsed under the bombs. 285 00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:25,561 Everything just caved in. 286 00:25:31,067 --> 00:25:34,237 It's like a bird and its nest. 287 00:25:35,738 --> 00:25:38,574 The way things are with the house in the rubble, 288 00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:43,746 the bird comes home and finds no nest. 289 00:25:43,871 --> 00:25:47,875 Where am I to find a place to sit and work for something to eat? 290 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,712 Even a bird needs a nest it can go back to, 291 00:25:51,838 --> 00:25:54,465 crawl into for sleep and food. 292 00:26:17,113 --> 00:26:19,782 Look, they're focusing on us now. 293 00:26:22,493 --> 00:26:27,123 First they bomb as much as they please, then they film. 294 00:26:36,883 --> 00:26:40,803 We fought against the Chinese for 12 centuries. 295 00:26:40,887 --> 00:26:43,514 We fought against the French for 100 years. 296 00:26:47,935 --> 00:26:51,522 And finally, when the war was lost by the French in 1954... 297 00:26:51,647 --> 00:26:53,941 at the battle of Dien Bien Phu, 298 00:26:54,066 --> 00:26:57,236 the Vietnamese were liberated from foreign oppression. 299 00:27:02,450 --> 00:27:07,288 But it was at that precise moment that the Americans came to Vietnam. 300 00:27:07,413 --> 00:27:11,793 Little by little at first. Then more and more as an invasion, 301 00:27:11,876 --> 00:27:14,295 an invasion of the American army. 302 00:27:17,423 --> 00:27:20,343 Five hundred thousand of them in Vietnam. 303 00:27:20,468 --> 00:27:24,263 And this war became a war of genocide. 304 00:27:24,347 --> 00:27:27,642 The people of North Vietnam and South Vietnam... 305 00:27:27,725 --> 00:27:32,814 fight only for freedom, independence and national unity. 306 00:27:34,857 --> 00:27:39,987 This war is a war against the American imperialists. 307 00:27:40,112 --> 00:27:43,449 This is our war for independence. 308 00:27:54,502 --> 00:27:58,714 What we are trying to put across this afternoon is to get you to realize... 309 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,676 that these weren't mythical, hazy people from the past. 310 00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:04,011 These were very real people. 311 00:28:04,095 --> 00:28:07,932 When they rose up against the most powerful army in the world, 312 00:28:08,057 --> 00:28:11,018 they were actually putting everything on the line that they had: 313 00:28:11,102 --> 00:28:15,189 Their homes, their wealth, their past and their future. 314 00:28:17,942 --> 00:28:20,319 That all men are created equal. 315 00:28:20,403 --> 00:28:24,532 That they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. 316 00:28:24,657 --> 00:28:30,079 That among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." 317 00:28:30,204 --> 00:28:32,665 And when you judge the Revolution and the problems and the success we had, 318 00:28:32,748 --> 00:28:34,667 it was a two-way street. 319 00:28:34,750 --> 00:28:37,879 A good many citizens at the time of the Revolution... 320 00:28:38,004 --> 00:28:40,590 actually stayed and fought with the British. 321 00:28:40,715 --> 00:28:42,717 It was close to being a civil war in many areas. 322 00:28:42,842 --> 00:28:45,511 You actually split many-many families. 323 00:28:45,595 --> 00:28:48,389 Thomas Jefferson said, "The tree of revolution is..." 324 00:28:48,514 --> 00:28:50,433 or "The tree of liberty is... 325 00:28:50,516 --> 00:28:53,936 watered by the blood of revolution every generation." 326 00:28:54,061 --> 00:28:58,441 And I think that's a little exaggerated, but there's some truth to that. 327 00:28:58,566 --> 00:29:00,985 The war had come to Westchester County, 328 00:29:01,110 --> 00:29:05,448 but so too had independence and a new responsibility. 329 00:29:05,573 --> 00:29:08,618 Men are getting killed, men are killing. That's the parallel. 330 00:29:08,743 --> 00:29:11,329 As far as politics, are you kidding? 331 00:29:11,454 --> 00:29:14,123 Oriental politics? Don't put me on, man. 332 00:29:15,458 --> 00:29:16,959 Fire! 333 00:29:18,878 --> 00:29:21,923 We haven't found his weapon yet. We're still looking for it. 334 00:29:22,006 --> 00:29:23,925 - You got a weapon? - No, sir. 335 00:29:24,008 --> 00:29:25,927 He had one, man. This guy's got ammo. 336 00:29:26,010 --> 00:29:28,763 I'm planning to medivac this guy. 337 00:29:34,435 --> 00:29:36,979 The people who are living in the jungle, 338 00:29:37,104 --> 00:29:41,275 under the bombs, without pay, without their families, 339 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,654 are doing so because they are fighting for independence. 340 00:29:44,779 --> 00:29:47,073 Because they're fighting, in this case, for unification... 341 00:29:47,156 --> 00:29:49,283 and they're fighting for revolution. 342 00:29:56,415 --> 00:30:01,420 Of course, the name for a conflict... 343 00:30:01,546 --> 00:30:05,049 in which you're opposing a revolution is counter-revolution. 344 00:30:05,174 --> 00:30:07,718 And this is something we never admitted to ourselves at all. 345 00:30:07,844 --> 00:30:09,804 It's-It's what we were really doing. 346 00:30:09,887 --> 00:30:13,516 The letters and the reports we had... 347 00:30:13,641 --> 00:30:17,103 on Ho Chi Minh's attitude back in 1946... 348 00:30:17,228 --> 00:30:21,607 he wrote I think it was seven letters to this government and received no reply. 349 00:30:21,691 --> 00:30:26,821 The-The-The pathos, almost, the sadness... 350 00:30:26,904 --> 00:30:30,324 Here's a man who felt and believed the United States... 351 00:30:30,408 --> 00:30:33,744 would be sympathetic to his purpose of gaining his independence... 352 00:30:33,870 --> 00:30:35,746 from a colonial power. 353 00:30:35,872 --> 00:30:39,000 And then to find we... You know, this is what he'd read. 354 00:30:39,125 --> 00:30:42,587 He'd been here, read our Constitution and Declaration of Independence. 355 00:30:42,712 --> 00:30:45,715 He thought surely the United States would be interested. 356 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,342 We had testimony in the committee that his one worry... 357 00:30:48,468 --> 00:30:50,344 was that it was so insignificant... 358 00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:54,640 Vietnam was so far away, insignificant... we would never bother about it. 359 00:30:54,724 --> 00:30:59,645 It's too small to ever attract the attention of the United States. 360 00:30:59,729 --> 00:31:01,647 He was sure in his own mind... 361 00:31:01,731 --> 00:31:04,567 that if we ever put our minds in focus upon it, we would be for him. 362 00:31:04,692 --> 00:31:09,155 How different history would have been for us and for them... 363 00:31:09,238 --> 00:31:12,158 if we had felt a common interest... 364 00:31:12,241 --> 00:31:15,411 in the colonial province like Vietnam... 365 00:31:15,536 --> 00:31:17,497 seeking its independence from France. 366 00:31:18,706 --> 00:31:20,583 The Ho Chi Minh of '56, 367 00:31:20,708 --> 00:31:23,878 I don't think could have got elected dogcatcher in South Vietnam. 368 00:31:24,003 --> 00:31:28,716 Ho Chi Minh, uh, dead... 369 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,011 Could beat any candidate we've ever put up in Vietnam. 370 00:31:34,806 --> 00:31:38,601 You asked me about my oldest son Bing. 371 00:31:38,726 --> 00:31:43,397 He was a graduate of Harvard, 1965. 372 00:31:43,481 --> 00:31:46,400 And he was not a soldier at heart. 373 00:31:46,484 --> 00:31:50,571 Uh, but he realized, I'm sure, there's no question, 374 00:31:50,696 --> 00:31:56,410 he realized he was part of a big job that had to be done, 375 00:31:56,536 --> 00:32:00,957 and he was gonna do it the way he did everything... full out. 376 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,418 And he went out on this mission... Minh River... 377 00:32:04,544 --> 00:32:07,463 and it was a big assault mission bringing elements... 378 00:32:07,588 --> 00:32:11,801 to this area just south of Da Nang along the railroad line. 379 00:32:11,926 --> 00:32:16,848 And they encountered heavy, sustained, uh, automatic weapons fire. 380 00:32:16,973 --> 00:32:20,977 And the helicopter ahead of him, I believe, 381 00:32:21,102 --> 00:32:25,356 was, uh, uh, destr... was shot down. 382 00:32:25,481 --> 00:32:30,736 And then he went in and his helicopter was, uh, uh... 383 00:32:30,820 --> 00:32:35,783 He was actually killed in flight. That's what they... 384 00:32:35,867 --> 00:32:39,579 And the airplane crashed, and he and his co... He was killed. 385 00:32:39,662 --> 00:32:42,331 His copilot was very badly injured. 386 00:32:42,457 --> 00:32:46,919 And I think there were 12 out of 15 or 16 of the people aboard... 387 00:32:47,003 --> 00:32:49,255 were either killed or badly hurt. 388 00:33:04,020 --> 00:33:06,314 Many bombs, many coffins. 389 00:33:07,648 --> 00:33:09,692 These are for children. 390 00:33:12,528 --> 00:33:16,824 Eight or nine hundred a week. I have lost seven children myself. 391 00:33:19,327 --> 00:33:22,288 Many have died here. 392 00:33:22,371 --> 00:33:27,251 It's nothing like in the countryside. Many more have died there. 393 00:33:31,297 --> 00:33:36,135 In the country, there are no coffins. There's no money to buy them. 394 00:33:39,972 --> 00:33:41,933 How did all the children die? 395 00:33:44,435 --> 00:33:48,648 Poison. Poison, you know. 396 00:33:52,652 --> 00:33:58,324 These planes keep spouting and spraying the stuff, and so many people have died. 397 00:34:00,576 --> 00:34:03,371 It seems to destroy their intestines. 398 00:34:03,454 --> 00:34:07,375 With this spraying and bombing, so many have died. 399 00:34:10,628 --> 00:34:14,590 Each day, right on time, the bomb craters appear. 400 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,640 Hundreds of tons are dropped each day. 401 00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:33,818 And we can't talk about it. We can't talk about it... 402 00:34:33,943 --> 00:34:36,445 because we are afraid of the government. 403 00:34:55,131 --> 00:34:57,675 Come on. 404 00:35:05,933 --> 00:35:09,103 - You look nice. - How do you feel? 405 00:35:09,187 --> 00:35:11,105 What'd you do? 406 00:35:11,189 --> 00:35:13,608 Uh, shaved. 407 00:35:13,733 --> 00:35:15,818 I liked it better long. 408 00:35:17,820 --> 00:35:20,323 So what you been doing? 409 00:35:23,117 --> 00:35:25,161 In little more than a week, 410 00:35:25,286 --> 00:35:28,456 I'll be going back to the military. 411 00:35:28,539 --> 00:35:31,459 You what? 412 00:35:31,542 --> 00:35:34,295 - Why? - Well... 413 00:35:37,089 --> 00:35:40,051 After what they've done to you? 414 00:35:42,136 --> 00:35:44,806 Well, it's... 415 00:35:44,889 --> 00:35:47,308 it's a choice between that... 416 00:35:48,976 --> 00:35:52,438 or, uh, Canada, again. 417 00:35:54,190 --> 00:35:57,151 Or, uh, staying underground. 418 00:35:58,361 --> 00:36:00,988 Which is, uh, as you know, impossible... 419 00:36:01,113 --> 00:36:04,033 - Have you been in contact with them? - No. 420 00:36:04,158 --> 00:36:06,410 No. But I've got a lot of support. 421 00:36:06,536 --> 00:36:08,412 You'll get the same deal Mike's getting. 422 00:36:08,538 --> 00:36:12,333 It's going to be a different type thing. I'm going back publicly. 423 00:36:12,416 --> 00:36:16,337 We're having, uh, Ad Hoc Congressional Hearings. 424 00:36:16,420 --> 00:36:17,380 Yeah? 425 00:36:17,505 --> 00:36:19,865 It's really been building up over the past couple of months. 426 00:36:19,924 --> 00:36:24,303 - And... - Am I going to be able to be there? 427 00:36:24,387 --> 00:36:28,474 Of course you're going to be there. I'm gonna try to get Ronnie there, too. 428 00:36:28,558 --> 00:36:30,810 "Cause you know what I feel about the army. 429 00:36:30,893 --> 00:36:35,189 These people holding their heads high because they lost a son... 430 00:36:35,273 --> 00:36:37,191 in Vietnam or something. 431 00:36:37,275 --> 00:36:39,694 I don't think that's much to be proud of. 432 00:36:42,321 --> 00:36:46,033 They've lost more than they'll ever gain for the rest of their lives. 433 00:36:49,871 --> 00:36:53,875 And I remember I was sitting at the base of the hill, 434 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,669 and I was on one of the tanks. 435 00:36:56,752 --> 00:36:59,839 And I had an M-16, and I had stacks of magazines. 436 00:36:59,922 --> 00:37:02,133 And there were two guys, you know, 437 00:37:02,258 --> 00:37:06,262 that were going through, like, some grass and bam! 438 00:37:06,387 --> 00:37:09,432 I dinged in on one of 'em, and I nailed him, you know. 439 00:37:09,557 --> 00:37:14,228 And the Aussie with me confirmed, you know, that I dinged him. 440 00:37:14,312 --> 00:37:17,023 And I felt good. And I wanted more. 441 00:37:17,106 --> 00:37:22,111 And it wasn't that I wanted more for politics or anything like that. 442 00:37:22,236 --> 00:37:25,865 No. I couldn't of cared if they were whatever. 443 00:37:25,948 --> 00:37:30,411 I just wanted them because they were the opposition, the enemy. 444 00:37:30,495 --> 00:37:34,123 Stinking little savages. Wipe 'em out, I say. 445 00:37:34,248 --> 00:37:37,043 Wipe 'em out. Wipe 'em off the face of the earth! 446 00:37:38,294 --> 00:37:40,755 Will we ever understand these Eastern races? 447 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,132 Hit me, Poon Soon. 448 00:37:47,261 --> 00:37:49,096 You hideous yellow monster! 449 00:37:49,180 --> 00:37:52,642 I wanted to go out and kill some gooks, you know? 450 00:37:52,725 --> 00:37:57,480 I-I really... I-I don't know. I guess I had been totally brainwashed, 451 00:37:57,605 --> 00:38:01,108 because I could remember when people used to call me "blanket ass"... 452 00:38:01,234 --> 00:38:03,486 or "chief" and they still did, you know? 453 00:38:03,611 --> 00:38:07,406 I think my name was, uh, Ira Hayes in boot camp. 454 00:38:07,490 --> 00:38:11,410 Either Ira Hayes or squaw, depending on what mood the drill instructor was in. 455 00:38:11,494 --> 00:38:14,789 But there I was, you know, saying I wanted to go kill some gooks. 456 00:38:14,914 --> 00:38:19,794 They were instructed to remove the eyes of the individual... 457 00:38:19,877 --> 00:38:22,505 and place them in a hole in the middle of the back, 458 00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:25,299 and that would say to the Vietnamese, you have to understand, 459 00:38:25,383 --> 00:38:28,261 uh, that whoever did that was ubiquitous. 460 00:38:28,344 --> 00:38:30,972 In other words, the eye being the symbol of ubiquity, 461 00:38:31,097 --> 00:38:34,809 uh, or of all-present, all-powerfulness on the part of the Saigon government. 462 00:38:34,934 --> 00:38:39,063 Which is an easy message for the local villagers to get. 463 00:38:39,188 --> 00:38:42,068 In fact, the American advisors didn't have that much of a stomach for it. 464 00:38:42,191 --> 00:38:45,862 So they used to use CBS logos. 465 00:38:45,987 --> 00:38:47,947 You know, the eye of CBS? 466 00:38:48,030 --> 00:38:50,671 And they would kill the individual and then they would leave him... 467 00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:52,660 with kind of a calling card on him. 468 00:38:52,785 --> 00:38:56,831 At one point, I was invited to go along on an airborne interrogation... 469 00:38:56,956 --> 00:38:59,625 in a helicopter with the marines northwest of Da Nang. 470 00:38:59,709 --> 00:39:02,003 And they took along two Vietnamese. 471 00:39:02,128 --> 00:39:05,923 And one was already reduced by beatings with a rubber hose... 472 00:39:06,048 --> 00:39:09,177 and some other methods of, uh, beating and torture... 473 00:39:09,302 --> 00:39:11,679 to the point where he couldn't talk, he couldn't respond. 474 00:39:11,804 --> 00:39:16,225 As an example to the one they wanted to question, they'd say, 475 00:39:16,350 --> 00:39:18,311 "If you don't tell us what we want to know, 476 00:39:18,394 --> 00:39:20,396 we're gonna throw you out of the helicopter." 477 00:39:20,521 --> 00:39:23,274 And, uh, he couldn't respond. He didn't understand. 478 00:39:23,399 --> 00:39:26,819 They were using, uh, pigeon Vietnamese, which he didn't understand. 479 00:39:26,903 --> 00:39:28,821 It was more English than Vietnamese. 480 00:39:28,905 --> 00:39:31,657 They'd run him up to the helicopter... two hefty E.M. were along... 481 00:39:31,741 --> 00:39:36,204 they'd take him by each elbow and run him up to the door of the helicopter. 482 00:39:36,287 --> 00:39:39,707 They'd do this three or four times. He was reduced to whimpering and crying. 483 00:39:39,791 --> 00:39:44,128 And they finally, um, uh, told him that this was the last run. 484 00:39:44,253 --> 00:39:47,965 He still responded the same way, and they winged him out of the helicopter. 485 00:39:48,090 --> 00:39:52,386 The second fellow immediately started to babble. 486 00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:54,388 Anything he could tell them. 487 00:39:54,472 --> 00:39:57,767 Any kind of information he could give them for one goal. 488 00:39:57,892 --> 00:40:00,019 And that was to reach the ground alive again. 489 00:40:00,102 --> 00:40:03,356 I just can't see in my mind somebody throwing somebody out of a helicopter. 490 00:40:03,439 --> 00:40:07,193 I don't believe this kind of stuff happened. Maybe it did. I don't know. 491 00:40:07,276 --> 00:40:09,403 I never saw it, put it that way. 492 00:40:11,155 --> 00:40:16,619 I've seen G.I.'s get mad and, uh, uh, rather than shoot one of these dinks, 493 00:40:16,744 --> 00:40:20,456 uh, just punch him right out, yeah, with his hands. 494 00:40:22,750 --> 00:40:25,837 Americans say Vietnamese are just slant-eyed savages. 495 00:40:25,962 --> 00:40:28,798 The Vietnamese have 5,000 years of history. 496 00:40:28,923 --> 00:40:33,719 We fight against the invaders. It is not we who are the savages. 497 00:40:49,652 --> 00:40:51,821 I don't know where they are. That's the worst thing. 498 00:40:51,946 --> 00:40:54,824 Right around and run into the sewers and the gutters, anywhere. 499 00:40:54,949 --> 00:40:58,369 They can be anywhere. Just hopin' you can stay alive from day to day. 500 00:40:58,494 --> 00:41:01,539 I just want to go back home and go to school. That's about it. 501 00:41:01,664 --> 00:41:03,624 - Have you lost any friends? - Quite a few. 502 00:41:03,749 --> 00:41:08,045 We lost one the other day. The whole thing stinks. 503 00:41:12,341 --> 00:41:14,927 The dude in the foxhole with me, he was dead. 504 00:41:15,011 --> 00:41:19,724 And, like, here come the jets. Everybody's, "Yay, jets! Do it to 'em. 505 00:41:19,849 --> 00:41:22,059 Get these motherfuckers off our ass." You know. 506 00:41:22,185 --> 00:41:24,604 'Cause they were diggin' in our behind real good. 507 00:41:24,687 --> 00:41:28,024 And, like, the jet came in and "Yay, jet, get 'em." 508 00:41:28,149 --> 00:41:30,860 And you see 'em swoopin' all around. "Yay, jet, get 'em." 509 00:41:30,985 --> 00:41:34,238 And he came over that way and let it go, and you say, "Uh-oh." 510 00:41:34,363 --> 00:41:37,492 And you could see it's napalm cannister, because you can tell 'em. 511 00:41:37,575 --> 00:41:41,454 They spin asshole over head, backwards as they're tumbling through the air. 512 00:41:41,537 --> 00:41:45,124 And the thing is just tumbling down. You know it's coming right at you. 513 00:41:45,208 --> 00:41:48,669 You know. And, like, wow. The napalm hit, I grabbed this dude, 514 00:41:48,795 --> 00:41:51,297 just put him up over my head in the hole like that. 515 00:41:51,380 --> 00:41:55,218 Fuckin' napalm went down the whole line. Just creamed everybody in the line. 516 00:41:55,343 --> 00:41:58,846 Thirty-five dudes, man, just burnt. Post-toasty to the bitter, you dig? 517 00:41:58,971 --> 00:42:01,432 And that napalm was just drippin' on both sides of this dude. 518 00:42:01,557 --> 00:42:04,268 He's dead, you know. I'm just holdin' him up, using him as a shield. 519 00:42:04,393 --> 00:42:07,522 I just chunked this dude off of me and just sprung out of the hole. 520 00:42:07,605 --> 00:42:10,149 I didn't know which way I was going outside of back, you dig? 521 00:42:10,274 --> 00:42:12,193 And just ran through. Burned my pants off. 522 00:42:12,276 --> 00:42:15,822 Spent the rest of the battle running with no drawers. My stuff hanging out. 523 00:42:15,905 --> 00:42:18,825 You ever try to fight a battle without any drawers on, man? 524 00:42:20,910 --> 00:42:23,996 Awful sick of it. I'll be so glad to go home. 525 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,876 I don't know. It's the worst area we've been in since I've been in Vietnam. 526 00:42:29,001 --> 00:42:31,087 You think it's worth it? 527 00:42:31,212 --> 00:42:35,675 Yeah. I don't know. They say we're fighting for something. I don't know. 528 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,429 I was at a very kind of sobering thing last night. 529 00:42:40,555 --> 00:42:43,391 Memorial service for four men in the second squadron... 530 00:42:43,516 --> 00:42:45,476 who were killed the other day. 531 00:42:45,601 --> 00:42:47,770 One of them being a medic. 532 00:42:47,895 --> 00:42:50,481 And, uh, the place was just packed. 533 00:42:50,606 --> 00:42:53,568 And we sang three hymns and had a nice prayer. 534 00:42:53,651 --> 00:42:57,530 I turned around, looked at their faces, and they were... 535 00:42:57,613 --> 00:43:02,869 I was just proud. My-My, uh, feeling for America... 536 00:43:02,952 --> 00:43:05,079 just soared because of their... 537 00:43:05,163 --> 00:43:07,457 The way they looked. They looked determined... 538 00:43:07,582 --> 00:43:10,585 and-and-and reverent at the same time. 539 00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:15,131 But still they're a bloody good bunch of killers. 540 00:43:16,632 --> 00:43:20,094 "When you go forth to war against your enemies... 541 00:43:20,219 --> 00:43:25,057 and see horses and chariots in an army larger than your own, 542 00:43:25,141 --> 00:43:28,436 you shall not be afraid." 543 00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:32,064 Well, let's not anybody be so naive as to think we're here, 544 00:43:32,190 --> 00:43:35,276 in any way, to worship football. 545 00:43:36,777 --> 00:43:41,032 Nor are we here, as I'm sure many people believe, 546 00:43:41,157 --> 00:43:44,076 to pray for a victory. 547 00:43:45,328 --> 00:43:47,497 We believe in victory. 548 00:43:47,622 --> 00:43:50,458 We believe it will come to the team that's best prepared. 549 00:43:50,541 --> 00:43:54,086 This is serious business that we're involved in. 550 00:43:54,212 --> 00:43:57,840 And that's religious, and God cares. 551 00:43:57,965 --> 00:44:02,053 There are going to be men made tonight. 552 00:44:02,178 --> 00:44:05,139 And that's religious, and God cares about that. 553 00:44:08,935 --> 00:44:11,604 We're concerned about the big game. 554 00:44:13,314 --> 00:44:15,483 But we're also concerned about the bigger game, 555 00:44:15,608 --> 00:44:20,112 the biggest game of all that surrounds us: The game of life. 556 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,659 May you be winners. 557 00:44:24,784 --> 00:44:27,161 Winners in the big game. 558 00:44:27,245 --> 00:44:31,999 But even more importantly, winners in the biggest game of all, 559 00:44:32,125 --> 00:44:35,503 which we all play. Let us pray. 560 00:44:39,674 --> 00:44:41,008 That's a touchdown. 561 00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:48,307 Because we got our kids geared to crack like hell. 562 00:44:54,647 --> 00:44:59,152 Holding, number 37. 563 00:45:11,664 --> 00:45:14,167 You got to tell them they're number one, no matter what. 564 00:45:14,250 --> 00:45:17,462 - You're number one. 565 00:45:17,587 --> 00:45:21,507 Wow. Why don't you just say "wow"? 566 00:45:21,591 --> 00:45:25,094 - Say what? - 'Toy hoy" means "wow"? 567 00:45:25,219 --> 00:45:27,096 - Toy hoy? - Yeah. 568 00:45:27,221 --> 00:45:31,058 Like, toy hoy means, like, wow, you know? 569 00:45:31,142 --> 00:45:33,895 - Look at the hickeys I gave this chick. - You gave her hickeys? 570 00:45:33,978 --> 00:45:36,022 - Yeah. - I can imagine. Where? 571 00:45:36,105 --> 00:45:39,901 Uh, one on each side. 572 00:45:40,026 --> 00:45:43,863 - It's a place where she can't hide 'em. - Oh, really? 573 00:45:43,946 --> 00:45:47,241 See, this one? I gave her this one. 574 00:45:47,325 --> 00:45:49,327 And this one, this is the first one right there. 575 00:45:49,452 --> 00:45:52,163 It came out kind of nasty, you know. 576 00:45:52,288 --> 00:45:55,124 - And... No can do, I know. - Maybe he's dead. 577 00:45:55,249 --> 00:45:58,085 - He's not dead. Wake him up. - No can wakey up. 578 00:45:58,211 --> 00:46:00,546 Why? 579 00:46:00,630 --> 00:46:04,300 - Wakey him up. He no hard. - Huh? Why he's no hard? 580 00:46:04,425 --> 00:46:06,302 - Uh-huh. - 'Cause you no wake him up. 581 00:46:06,427 --> 00:46:09,639 Hey, Charles. You getting anything out of yours? 582 00:46:09,764 --> 00:46:14,435 This one's, uh, kind of sour on me, you know? Uh... 583 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,230 - Well, keep her going, man. - Huh? 584 00:46:17,313 --> 00:46:20,149 - Keep her going. - I'm trying to. 585 00:46:20,274 --> 00:46:22,944 You know what it is about these chicks down here, 586 00:46:23,069 --> 00:46:27,073 like, they're, uh... Well, what would you want to do... 587 00:46:27,198 --> 00:46:29,492 except for, you know, have a ball with them. 588 00:46:29,617 --> 00:46:32,537 - And, uh... Right? - Right. 589 00:46:32,662 --> 00:46:34,622 You're number one. 590 00:46:34,705 --> 00:46:37,458 This one's got a set of knockers, man. 591 00:46:37,542 --> 00:46:40,002 This one does, too, but she won't take her goddamn bra off. 592 00:46:40,128 --> 00:46:41,087 Take it off for her. 593 00:46:41,212 --> 00:46:43,131 Take it off for her? 594 00:46:43,214 --> 00:46:45,925 - That's the name of the game. - Here, you don't want this. 595 00:46:46,008 --> 00:46:49,011 I know. I know what you want. 596 00:46:49,137 --> 00:46:51,597 - Hey. Hey, Charles. Charles. - What? 597 00:46:51,722 --> 00:46:54,892 Yeah? It's about time. 598 00:46:58,479 --> 00:47:00,356 Ah, you don't be mad at me, okay? 599 00:47:00,481 --> 00:47:02,859 It took you long enough, you know that? 600 00:47:11,033 --> 00:47:14,537 - Oh, yeah. Check it out, baby. - Check it out later, man. 601 00:47:14,662 --> 00:47:16,956 Check it out later? Mm! 602 00:47:31,721 --> 00:47:35,683 You know, if my chick at home could see this now, man, she'd flip. 603 00:48:05,963 --> 00:48:09,383 One more. Yeah, this man here. 604 00:48:19,310 --> 00:48:21,229 Hurry up down that tunnel. 605 00:48:21,312 --> 00:48:23,606 Let's make a quick check and let's go. 606 00:48:32,782 --> 00:48:35,618 Okay, well, hurry it up and check it out quickly. 607 00:49:22,498 --> 00:49:24,375 Some people enjoy it, some don't. 608 00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:28,796 Some just go out and do it as a job. It's a daily grind. 609 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,924 - What is it for you? - I enjoy it. 610 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,899 Now I know that he will have a very important message for each one of us, 611 00:49:48,024 --> 00:49:51,235 so I want you all to listen very attentively... 612 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,113 to what he has to say to you. 613 00:49:54,197 --> 00:49:56,741 - Lieutenant Coker. - If you ever have to go to a war, 614 00:49:56,866 --> 00:50:00,495 and unfortunately, someday you probably will have to fight a war, 615 00:50:01,829 --> 00:50:05,166 you'll find out that life becomes very simple. 616 00:50:05,249 --> 00:50:09,545 Because the only thing you're concerned about is living and dying. 617 00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:15,676 Everything else is unimportant, because suddenly your life is at stake. 618 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,056 And that's what it's like to be when you become a prisoner, 619 00:50:20,181 --> 00:50:22,350 particularly, a prisoner of war. 620 00:50:22,433 --> 00:50:25,686 Because the thing that got us through were the things we learned... 621 00:50:25,770 --> 00:50:28,815 before we were ten years old. 622 00:50:28,940 --> 00:50:31,192 I'd like to open up to questions now. 623 00:50:31,275 --> 00:50:34,654 Just raise your hand or yell it out and you can ask any question you want. 624 00:50:34,737 --> 00:50:37,573 And I'll do the best I can to answer them. 625 00:50:39,117 --> 00:50:42,161 How did you feel when the Vietnam war was over? 626 00:50:42,245 --> 00:50:44,956 How did I feel when the war was over? 627 00:50:45,081 --> 00:50:47,792 I felt real good. Real good. 628 00:50:47,917 --> 00:50:51,420 It was a long war and a very difficult war to understand. 629 00:50:51,546 --> 00:50:55,591 But the reason we went there was to win this war. 630 00:50:55,716 --> 00:50:59,095 I volunteered to go. I'd go again if I had to. 631 00:50:59,220 --> 00:51:02,306 And we wanted to win. That was our number one ambition. 632 00:51:02,431 --> 00:51:04,851 That's what we really wanted, was to win this war. 633 00:51:04,934 --> 00:51:08,437 And it took us a long time. So when we knew that we had won, 634 00:51:08,563 --> 00:51:11,524 we felt great; we really felt great. 635 00:51:11,649 --> 00:51:16,028 - What did Vietnam look like? - What did Vietnam look like. 636 00:51:16,112 --> 00:51:19,615 Well, if it wasn't for the people, it was very pretty. 637 00:51:19,740 --> 00:51:21,909 Uh, the people over there are very backward and very primitive. 638 00:51:22,034 --> 00:51:24,245 And they just make a mess out of everything. 639 00:51:26,164 --> 00:51:28,332 How did you... How did you, um... 640 00:51:28,458 --> 00:51:30,918 What do you feel about the people that, um, 641 00:51:31,002 --> 00:51:34,005 went and burned their draft cards and went into Canada? 642 00:51:34,130 --> 00:51:37,425 We don't agree with them. I think these people were legally wrong. 643 00:51:37,508 --> 00:51:40,553 I think sometimes they were cowards. 644 00:51:40,636 --> 00:51:44,140 If they wanted to leave and go to Canada, that's okay. 645 00:51:44,265 --> 00:51:47,185 But they can't come back, though, because they have disagreed. 646 00:51:47,310 --> 00:51:50,438 They say, "We don't like your country, we don't like your people." 647 00:51:50,521 --> 00:51:52,440 They're saying that to you and me. 648 00:51:52,523 --> 00:51:54,442 "I don't like you, so I'm leaving." 649 00:51:54,525 --> 00:51:58,529 Well, fine, that's okay. There's no reason to hate a guy for that. 650 00:51:58,654 --> 00:52:02,283 'Cause that's also his right, but he can't come back. 651 00:52:02,366 --> 00:52:06,078 Instead of helping and aiding the Vietnamese people, 652 00:52:06,162 --> 00:52:10,917 I saw that we were party to their deliberate and systematic destruction. 653 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:16,422 The Vietnamese were considered, less than humans, inferiors. 654 00:52:16,506 --> 00:52:19,801 We called them "gooks," "slopes." 655 00:52:19,926 --> 00:52:23,471 Their lives weren't worth anything to us because we'd been taught to believe... 656 00:52:23,596 --> 00:52:26,682 that they were all fanatical and that they were all V. C... 657 00:52:26,808 --> 00:52:29,477 or V.C. sympathizers, even the children. 658 00:52:29,602 --> 00:52:31,479 Many of us, however, began to understand... 659 00:52:31,604 --> 00:52:34,106 through our personal experiences in Vietnam... 660 00:52:34,232 --> 00:52:37,819 the depth of the lies and deceptions practiced upon us, 661 00:52:37,944 --> 00:52:41,447 and the American people, by our country's leaders. 662 00:52:41,531 --> 00:52:44,700 It was they who trained us to kill without question... 663 00:52:44,826 --> 00:52:47,912 and to hate our enemy... the Vietnamese. 664 00:52:48,037 --> 00:52:52,458 They concocted such phrases as "kill ratios", "search and destroy", 665 00:52:52,542 --> 00:52:56,587 "free fire zones", "secure areas", and so on... 666 00:52:56,712 --> 00:53:01,717 to mask the reality of their combat policy in Vietnam. 667 00:53:01,843 --> 00:53:04,679 I make no apology for this act of resistance. 668 00:53:04,804 --> 00:53:07,515 I could do nothing else at the time. 669 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,560 But underground life has become intolerable to me. 670 00:53:10,685 --> 00:53:16,107 So I'm here today to draw attention to the true facts concerning my case... 671 00:53:16,232 --> 00:53:20,027 and the cases of tens of thousands just like me. 672 00:53:20,111 --> 00:53:23,406 We are not criminals to be hunted and imprisoned. 673 00:53:23,531 --> 00:53:29,036 Over a half million of us have deserted the military since 1965. 674 00:53:29,162 --> 00:53:31,539 Most of us have already returned to the military... 675 00:53:31,664 --> 00:53:34,167 to be punished with jail and bad discharges... 676 00:53:34,250 --> 00:53:37,420 that will be carried around for the rest of our lives. 677 00:53:37,545 --> 00:53:41,883 And it is a supreme irony to be prosecuted by the very same men... 678 00:53:42,008 --> 00:53:46,053 who planned and executed a genocidal war in Indochina. 679 00:53:46,179 --> 00:53:50,057 Now, inside this hearing room, Eddie Sowders has surrendered himself. 680 00:53:50,183 --> 00:53:54,103 Urged on, he says, by a hand-to-mouth underground existence... 681 00:53:54,228 --> 00:53:57,440 that still nags at many of his fellow deserters... 682 00:53:57,565 --> 00:53:59,734 who continue to look over their shoulders. 683 00:53:59,817 --> 00:54:02,695 Paul Udell, NBC News, Washington. 684 00:54:05,323 --> 00:54:07,617 - How was your sound? - One more time. 685 00:54:09,744 --> 00:54:11,954 Let me respectfully tell the American people... 686 00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:15,041 that this is their dirtiest and longest war. 687 00:54:15,124 --> 00:54:17,752 The Vietnamese fight only in self-defense. 688 00:54:17,835 --> 00:54:21,339 Ultimately, the Americans will see the light. 689 00:54:21,464 --> 00:54:24,383 If not, they will defeat themselves. 690 00:54:24,467 --> 00:54:28,805 You know, Vietnam, uh, reminded me of a... of a child, 691 00:54:28,930 --> 00:54:31,349 the developing of a child. 692 00:54:31,432 --> 00:54:34,977 The laws of nature control the development of this child. 693 00:54:35,102 --> 00:54:37,021 A child has to sit up before it crawls. 694 00:54:37,146 --> 00:54:39,106 It has to crawl before it walks. 695 00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:41,234 It has to walk before it runs. 696 00:54:44,987 --> 00:54:47,615 No matter how many decades America fights, 697 00:54:53,871 --> 00:54:57,959 I'm telling you so that you will go back and repeat it to President Nixon. 698 00:55:01,712 --> 00:55:05,967 Over here, as long as there is rice to eat, we'll keep fighting. 699 00:55:06,050 --> 00:55:11,180 And if the rice runs out, then we'll plow the fields and fight again. 700 00:55:11,305 --> 00:55:14,892 I know very little about it over there, I'll tell ya. 701 00:55:15,017 --> 00:55:18,104 And the less I know, the better off I'll be. 702 00:55:18,187 --> 00:55:20,189 It has not affected me a whole lot. 703 00:55:20,314 --> 00:55:23,401 I mean, the American... The way of life is still here. 704 00:55:23,484 --> 00:55:26,279 And if you work for it, it's there for you. 705 00:55:26,362 --> 00:55:29,907 We're taught that we're to obey our government, 706 00:55:30,032 --> 00:55:33,035 and I would have to go if I was instructed to. 707 00:55:33,161 --> 00:55:35,037 Once in a while, I think about it, 708 00:55:35,163 --> 00:55:38,833 but I like to think about the things that are happening right now to me. 709 00:55:38,916 --> 00:55:41,836 I don't it's affected mine at all. 710 00:55:41,919 --> 00:55:45,673 I don't even know who we're fighting for over there, to be real honest with you. 711 00:55:45,756 --> 00:55:48,843 I think we're fighting for the North Vietnamese, ain't we? 712 00:55:53,347 --> 00:55:57,435 I fled from Dau Tien to go live in Suoi Dua. 713 00:55:59,103 --> 00:56:02,482 Then I was allowed to go back, and I went back... 714 00:56:02,565 --> 00:56:04,984 and stayed in Ben Chua. 715 00:56:06,611 --> 00:56:10,573 While I was in Ben Chua, trouble broke out again. 716 00:56:10,698 --> 00:56:14,619 So I was taken up to Co Tach. 717 00:56:14,744 --> 00:56:17,747 I was picked up again and sent to Ben Chua... 718 00:56:17,872 --> 00:56:20,249 to be lumped together with the others. 719 00:56:24,587 --> 00:56:29,425 My house burned down while I was away. 720 00:56:29,550 --> 00:56:31,594 Once more, I got sent to Co Tach. 721 00:56:34,263 --> 00:56:39,227 I've fled five, six, at least seven times already. 722 00:56:41,187 --> 00:56:46,400 The lives of my countrymen are worth no more than that of a fly. 723 00:56:46,484 --> 00:56:50,029 You take it and swat it dead... 724 00:56:50,113 --> 00:56:52,115 just like that. 725 00:57:26,357 --> 00:57:29,610 Ladies, listen to me. 726 00:57:29,694 --> 00:57:34,407 There were some women amusing themselves and one pushed the other onto a table. 727 00:57:34,490 --> 00:57:37,785 The lady's falsies broke the table in two. 728 00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:44,709 If a table breaks, think of what would happen to a man's face. 729 00:57:46,377 --> 00:57:49,380 Watch it, they're filming. Don't joke. 730 00:57:49,505 --> 00:57:52,633 People in America will think we're ridiculous. 731 00:57:55,595 --> 00:57:58,097 We have about 15 companies now, 732 00:57:58,222 --> 00:58:03,311 including an insurance company and a tractor company. 733 00:58:03,436 --> 00:58:07,482 We are in the hotel business, in the travel agency business. 734 00:58:07,607 --> 00:58:12,320 We are the exclusive dealer for Ford in the country, Ford cars. 735 00:58:12,445 --> 00:58:15,114 Oh, many, many other things, 736 00:58:15,198 --> 00:58:17,116 like, uh, an oil company in the forming. 737 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,162 We, uh, have a bottling company. In other words, uh, 738 00:58:21,287 --> 00:58:24,832 we greatly... we greatly believe in the future of this country, 739 00:58:24,957 --> 00:58:27,794 and, uh, we think there's a great future for Vietnam. 740 00:58:27,877 --> 00:58:31,881 And, uh, we think that Vietnam will be liveable, 741 00:58:32,006 --> 00:58:34,050 will not go communist, 742 00:58:34,175 --> 00:58:36,552 because otherwise, all these companies will go to waste. 743 00:58:36,677 --> 00:58:40,348 And the way we work is we take a calculated risk. 744 00:58:40,473 --> 00:58:44,435 If we don't lose South Vietnam within the next three to five years, 745 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,687 then nobody can catch up with us. 746 00:58:46,771 --> 00:58:51,984 I'm a Johnny-come-lately as far as war profiteering is concerned. 747 00:58:53,152 --> 00:58:55,863 Uh, the reason why I... 748 00:58:55,947 --> 00:59:00,993 uh, organized this group of companies is because when I was in Paris, 749 00:59:01,077 --> 00:59:04,664 I saw that peace was coming, whether we liked it or not. 750 00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:08,709 Therefore, I got home in order to prepare for peace. 751 00:59:08,793 --> 00:59:14,298 All these companies have been organized in order to prepare for peace... 752 00:59:14,423 --> 00:59:18,553 and prepare for the economic takeoff that will come with peace. 753 00:59:18,636 --> 00:59:23,224 We have the infrastructure of hotels, of travel agencies and things like that. 754 00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:27,687 But, of course, there are no tourists in Vietnam now. But there will be. 755 00:59:27,770 --> 00:59:31,232 And, uh, we are getting ready for that sort of thing. 756 00:59:48,291 --> 00:59:50,251 Does it feel comfortable? 757 01:00:41,803 --> 01:00:46,015 Keep it flat. Just like you do with your good leg. 758 01:00:46,140 --> 01:00:48,559 Now try to walk. 759 01:00:56,526 --> 01:00:59,570 Well, it really isn't that much. We were just walking and... 760 01:00:59,695 --> 01:01:04,575 We were walking on a patrol and, uh, we ran into an ambush. 761 01:01:04,700 --> 01:01:06,577 About six, seven guys really got hurt. 762 01:01:06,702 --> 01:01:10,081 Ran into a battalion ambush, they said it was. 763 01:01:10,164 --> 01:01:14,585 And it was supposed to be one of the biggest ambushes of Tet season. 764 01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:20,591 And we called in two or three medivacs, and they got hit. 765 01:01:20,716 --> 01:01:24,595 So, finally, the last one came in and got us out. 766 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,766 From that, I never saw any of the others I was with, except for one or two. 767 01:01:28,850 --> 01:01:30,768 And that was about it. 768 01:01:30,852 --> 01:01:34,480 Most of the guys I keep in touch with are guys in the hospital. 769 01:01:34,564 --> 01:01:36,774 They usually have a reunion once a year. 770 01:01:40,403 --> 01:01:43,197 That's about it. There's really not that much to talk about. 771 01:01:46,325 --> 01:01:51,873 Here we are for one thing that we said, and I don't give a shit now. 772 01:01:51,998 --> 01:01:54,375 I don't care about the football game now. 773 01:01:54,459 --> 01:01:56,627 I don't care about anything now. 774 01:01:56,752 --> 01:02:00,631 The one thing that we wanna show these bastards with Masillon pride... 775 01:02:00,756 --> 01:02:03,134 is that we come down and show 'em a great Masillon effort. 776 01:02:03,217 --> 01:02:06,304 And what the piss you doing? What are ya doing? 777 01:02:06,429 --> 01:02:08,306 Get going! Goddamn it, Tony! 778 01:02:08,431 --> 01:02:10,641 Don't let 'em beat us! Don't let 'em beat us! 779 01:02:10,766 --> 01:02:12,643 Let's go! Show 'em Masillon pride. 780 01:02:12,768 --> 01:02:15,146 - Come on! Go! - Go! 781 01:02:15,229 --> 01:02:17,607 Go, go, go, go! 782 01:02:32,288 --> 01:02:34,373 Get him! Get him! 783 01:02:42,215 --> 01:02:44,425 Make no mistake about it. 784 01:02:46,052 --> 01:02:48,179 I don't want a man in here... 785 01:02:48,262 --> 01:02:51,682 To go back home thinking otherwise. 786 01:02:51,808 --> 01:02:54,101 We are going to win. 787 01:03:15,456 --> 01:03:17,291 Go, motherfucker! Go! 788 01:03:17,375 --> 01:03:19,293 Since the Lunar New Year, 789 01:03:19,377 --> 01:03:22,213 the Vietcong and North Vietnamese have proved they are capable... 790 01:03:22,296 --> 01:03:24,799 of bold and impressive military moves... 791 01:03:24,924 --> 01:03:27,718 that Americans here never dreamed could be achieved. 792 01:03:27,844 --> 01:03:32,306 Whether the Vietcong can sustain this onslaught long remains to be seen, 793 01:03:32,431 --> 01:03:34,642 but whatever turn this war now takes, 794 01:03:34,767 --> 01:03:37,895 the capture of the U.S. Embassy in Saigon for seven hours... 795 01:03:37,979 --> 01:03:41,399 will be a story to rally and inspire the Vietcong. 796 01:03:41,482 --> 01:03:46,112 Don North, ABC news, at the U.S. Embassy in Saigon. 797 01:03:46,195 --> 01:03:50,408 I know that, as was the case in the Battle of the Bulge in World War II, 798 01:03:50,491 --> 01:03:53,411 that after the enemy exposed himself, we would defeat him. 799 01:03:53,494 --> 01:03:57,331 He would be weakened, and we could follow that up. 800 01:03:57,457 --> 01:03:59,750 Through the use of, uh, 801 01:03:59,876 --> 01:04:03,921 the maximum military force that we could bring to bear on him, 802 01:04:04,005 --> 01:04:06,924 through the bombing, through the mining of the harbors, 803 01:04:07,008 --> 01:04:09,427 through the cutting of his lines of communication, 804 01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:11,762 by moving in and cleaning out his sanctuaries, 805 01:04:11,888 --> 01:04:14,182 the enemy would have no choice... 806 01:04:14,265 --> 01:04:16,309 but to come to some accommodation. 807 01:04:16,392 --> 01:04:18,853 In the beginning of 1968, 808 01:04:18,978 --> 01:04:22,940 General Westmoreland needed 206,000 more troops. 809 01:04:23,024 --> 01:04:26,027 We met hour after hour after hour in the Pentagon. 810 01:04:26,110 --> 01:04:31,741 And I started in and asked the Joint Chiefs of Staff, 811 01:04:31,866 --> 01:04:34,494 "How long do you think that we'll still be in the war?" 812 01:04:34,577 --> 01:04:36,704 None of them knew. 813 01:04:36,829 --> 01:04:41,209 "Uh, do you think that the 206,000 men will be enough?" 814 01:04:41,292 --> 01:04:43,211 Nobody knew. 815 01:04:43,294 --> 01:04:47,298 "Uh, might we have to send more men?" "Well, possibly." 816 01:04:47,381 --> 01:04:49,300 "Well, in six months?" "We don't know." 817 01:04:49,383 --> 01:04:51,052 "A year? Eighteen months?" 818 01:04:51,177 --> 01:04:53,721 I couldn't get answers to these questions. 819 01:04:53,846 --> 01:04:57,809 By the end of that four-day interrogation, 820 01:04:57,934 --> 01:05:01,729 I was getting down... by the end of it... into very serious questions, 821 01:05:01,854 --> 01:05:07,151 "Do any of you men, as you look at it objectively, 822 01:05:07,235 --> 01:05:12,657 do you find any diminution in the will of the enemy to fight?" 823 01:05:12,782 --> 01:05:14,992 Well, they said, "No, we guess we don't." 824 01:05:15,076 --> 01:05:18,496 "Are they sending the same number of men down through the Ho Chi Minh trail?" 825 01:05:18,579 --> 01:05:22,500 "Well, yes, and even they might be a little more." 826 01:05:22,583 --> 01:05:27,505 "And how about our bombing? We've placed great reliance on our bombing. 827 01:05:27,588 --> 01:05:29,924 Is our bombing stopping them?" "No." 828 01:05:30,007 --> 01:05:33,427 "Well, what is the amount of attrition that our bombing's causing?" 829 01:05:33,553 --> 01:05:36,764 "Well, maybe 10 to 15 percent." 830 01:05:36,889 --> 01:05:39,183 So I remember asking one question. 831 01:05:39,267 --> 01:05:44,605 "If a North Vietnamese field commander in South Vietnam needed 1,000 men..." 832 01:05:44,689 --> 01:05:46,607 They said, "Yes." 833 01:05:46,691 --> 01:05:52,321 "If he asked for, say, 1,200 men, 1,000 would get through?" 834 01:05:52,447 --> 01:05:54,323 "Well, that's right." 835 01:05:54,449 --> 01:05:57,869 'then he'd have the thousand he needed." "Well, yes. That's so." 836 01:05:57,994 --> 01:06:03,207 Well, this type of interrogation... Finally, by the end of four or five days, 837 01:06:03,291 --> 01:06:06,043 I must say that my thinking... 838 01:06:06,127 --> 01:06:10,256 had undergone a very substantial revolution. 839 01:06:27,231 --> 01:06:30,485 Come on, everybody! 840 01:06:45,708 --> 01:06:49,253 As long as the American President... 841 01:06:49,337 --> 01:06:52,799 is commander in chief... 842 01:06:52,882 --> 01:06:58,596 of the biggest war machine in human history, 843 01:06:58,679 --> 01:07:04,602 with bases on every continent, we are going to get into trouble. 844 01:07:04,685 --> 01:07:10,066 Our enemy is the growing militarization of American life. 845 01:07:10,191 --> 01:07:14,028 Our enemy is American imperialism. 846 01:07:14,153 --> 01:07:16,447 And there is an awakening. 847 01:07:17,990 --> 01:07:21,953 The enemy was on the ropes after the Tet offensive was over. 848 01:07:22,078 --> 01:07:24,539 And it's like two boxers in the ring. 849 01:07:24,664 --> 01:07:26,791 One boxer has the other one on the ropes, 850 01:07:26,874 --> 01:07:29,794 but the man who is about to be the victor... 851 01:07:29,877 --> 01:07:32,380 has his second throw the towel in. 852 01:07:32,463 --> 01:07:34,507 Accordingly, 853 01:07:36,008 --> 01:07:38,010 I shall not seek... 854 01:07:39,220 --> 01:07:41,973 and I will not accept... 855 01:07:42,098 --> 01:07:45,893 the nomination of my party for another term as your president. 856 01:07:46,936 --> 01:07:48,855 I don't think we helped 'em one bit. 857 01:07:48,938 --> 01:07:51,649 All I think we've done is destroyed their country, laid it waste. 858 01:07:51,732 --> 01:07:54,402 No. I don't think we helped 'em. 859 01:07:54,527 --> 01:07:58,072 As fellow human beings, I don't think they should be there doing that. 860 01:07:58,197 --> 01:08:00,700 Certainly a mature person can say they made a mistake. 861 01:08:00,783 --> 01:08:02,243 Why can't a government? 862 01:08:02,368 --> 01:08:06,747 You let us all go off to war and said, "Yea, team. Fight in Vietnam," 863 01:08:06,873 --> 01:08:09,667 and all this kinda shit in 1965 through 1968. 864 01:08:09,750 --> 01:08:14,172 Now 1968 comes along and "Boo, team. Come on home," and all this shit. 865 01:08:14,255 --> 01:08:17,008 "And don't say nothin' about it, 'cause we don't want to hear about it... 866 01:08:17,091 --> 01:08:19,010 'cause it's upsetting around dinnertime." 867 01:08:19,093 --> 01:08:21,345 Well, Goddamn. It upset me for a whole goddamn year. 868 01:08:21,429 --> 01:08:24,389 It upset a lot of people to the point where they're fuckin' dead, you know? 869 01:08:24,432 --> 01:08:27,351 All this shit. You don't wanna hear about it? I'll tell you every day. 870 01:08:27,435 --> 01:08:29,854 Make you sit out and puke on your dinner, you dig? 871 01:08:29,937 --> 01:08:32,857 Because you got me over there, and now you done brought me back here... 872 01:08:32,940 --> 01:08:36,027 and you wanna forget it so somebody else can go do it somewhere else. 873 01:08:36,110 --> 01:08:38,196 Hell no. Uh-uh. You gonna hear it all. 874 01:08:38,279 --> 01:08:42,533 Every day as long as you live, because it's gonna be with me as long as I live. 875 01:08:42,617 --> 01:08:44,744 When I get up in the morning, when John gets up, 876 01:08:44,827 --> 01:08:46,871 when a lot of dudes sitting here get up, 877 01:08:46,954 --> 01:08:49,040 man, their gut hurts because they got shot there. 878 01:08:49,123 --> 01:08:52,043 I gotta put on an arm and a leg, 'cause it ain't there no more, you dig? 879 01:08:52,126 --> 01:08:55,546 Now, my man's got a hole in his stomach. He can't work right, you know? 880 01:08:55,630 --> 01:08:59,050 You do something about that. Make that all disappear, you dig? 881 01:08:59,133 --> 01:09:01,052 Make it all go away with the 6:00 news. 882 01:09:01,135 --> 01:09:03,721 Turn it off or switch it to another channel. 883 01:09:03,805 --> 01:09:07,058 Uh-Uh. To hell with that, you dig? It's here and it's for real. 884 01:09:07,141 --> 01:09:10,061 And it's gonna happen again unless these folks get off their ass... 885 01:09:10,144 --> 01:09:12,146 and realize it has happened. 886 01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:22,740 The country is ready to pass a reasoned judgment on this war. 887 01:09:22,824 --> 01:09:26,577 The people have judged, I think, that it's unwise and immoral... 888 01:09:26,661 --> 01:09:29,413 and not in the national interest of this country... 889 01:09:29,497 --> 01:09:31,999 and that, therefore, it must be brought to an end. 890 01:09:36,212 --> 01:09:39,757 For 20 years, first the French, and then the United States... 891 01:09:39,841 --> 01:09:43,094 had been predicting victory in Vietnam. 892 01:09:43,177 --> 01:09:46,264 In 1961 and in 1962, 893 01:09:46,347 --> 01:09:49,767 as well as 1966 and 1967, 894 01:09:49,851 --> 01:09:52,270 we have been told that the tide is turning, 895 01:09:52,353 --> 01:09:57,442 there is a light at the end of the tunnel, we can soon bring our troops home, 896 01:09:57,525 --> 01:10:00,528 victory is near, the enemy is tiring. 897 01:10:00,611 --> 01:10:02,655 Once, in 1962, 898 01:10:02,738 --> 01:10:07,285 I participated in such a prediction myself. 899 01:10:07,368 --> 01:10:10,455 But for 20 years, we have been wrong. 900 01:10:10,538 --> 01:10:12,957 The history of conflict among nations... 901 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:18,129 does not record another such lengthy and consistent chronicle of error... 902 01:10:18,212 --> 01:10:20,715 as we have shown in Vietnam. 903 01:10:20,798 --> 01:10:23,718 I had just given the policy line, 904 01:10:23,843 --> 01:10:27,305 stayed up all night with Adam Walinsky and Peter Edelman, 905 01:10:27,388 --> 01:10:29,307 helping on a speech for Robert Kennedy... 906 01:10:29,390 --> 01:10:33,019 which proved to be his last speech given in San Francisco here... 907 01:10:33,144 --> 01:10:36,314 to a businessman's luncheon on Vietnam. 908 01:10:36,397 --> 01:10:40,735 Uh, I went up with some corrections last thing in the morning... 909 01:10:40,818 --> 01:10:44,155 and shook hands with him in his bathrobe as he stood there. 910 01:10:44,238 --> 01:10:47,825 And then he came down from the Ambassador Hotel and got into a car. 911 01:10:47,909 --> 01:10:52,163 We were struck with how easy it was to get onto that floor... 912 01:10:52,246 --> 01:10:54,165 and approach him at that point. 913 01:10:54,248 --> 01:10:56,250 At the conference on lessons on Vietnam, 914 01:10:56,334 --> 01:10:59,587 of course, in the morning I learned that Robert Kennedy had died. 915 01:11:06,093 --> 01:11:08,221 Well... 916 01:11:10,598 --> 01:11:12,934 So... 917 01:11:13,059 --> 01:11:15,770 So, uh... 918 01:11:20,108 --> 01:11:24,278 Well, that was a way for a lot of people to feel powerless. 919 01:11:34,789 --> 01:11:37,208 So, um, 920 01:11:37,291 --> 01:11:40,753 it began to look as if there was no way to change this country. 921 01:12:33,973 --> 01:12:36,851 We'd been going down this road for so many years, 922 01:12:36,976 --> 01:12:41,105 and I had felt so strongly before that this was the right policy, 923 01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:43,775 that it was difficult for me to change. 924 01:12:43,858 --> 01:12:49,238 I know now that the domino theory was a false theory. 925 01:12:49,363 --> 01:12:53,993 I know now that we should not have become involved. 926 01:12:54,076 --> 01:12:58,956 As far as I'm concerned today, I have no hesitancy whatsoever... 927 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:05,213 in saying I could not have been more wrong... in my attitude toward Vietnam. 928 01:13:10,301 --> 01:13:14,555 Ground combat, Vietnamese cross of gallantry with a silver star, 929 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:19,977 gallantry in ground combat, four air medals, an "I was there" ribbon. 930 01:13:25,566 --> 01:13:28,486 I got a colonel that's flying upstairs, and he's gettin' down on me... 931 01:13:28,569 --> 01:13:32,323 and he's saying, 'take the hill, take the hill, take the hill." 932 01:13:32,406 --> 01:13:35,493 So I got together with the tank commander... 933 01:13:35,576 --> 01:13:37,829 and I said, "Look, let's take three tanks... 934 01:13:37,912 --> 01:13:40,832 and we'll walk the A.R.V.N. Up the hill, you know? 935 01:13:40,915 --> 01:13:44,085 And we'll lay down a base of fire as we're going." 936 01:13:44,210 --> 01:13:47,505 He says, "Okay." I got with the A.R.V.N. And says, "Let's fly." 937 01:13:47,588 --> 01:13:53,136 So I popped up behind the lead tank... and, uh, started to go up the hill. 938 01:13:53,261 --> 01:13:57,598 And everything was cool, until we started taking fire. 939 01:13:57,723 --> 01:14:00,935 And, uh, the A.R.V.N. started to split. 940 01:14:03,104 --> 01:14:05,273 And that's when I got it. 941 01:14:05,398 --> 01:14:10,278 I said, "Oh, my God. I'm hit." I couldn't believe it, you know? 942 01:14:10,403 --> 01:14:12,530 "I can't believe it. I'm really hit." 943 01:14:12,613 --> 01:14:17,910 And my first, first thought... was Kay, my girl, you know? 944 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:24,125 It's gonna sound stupid, but I'm... but my thought was "she'll kill me." 945 01:14:24,250 --> 01:14:27,920 You know, here I was dying and I was worried that she was gonna kill me. 946 01:14:28,004 --> 01:14:32,967 But then I realized that I didn't have to worry because I was dying. 947 01:14:33,092 --> 01:14:36,721 It's all over. And for what, you know? 948 01:14:36,804 --> 01:14:39,640 My last... My last conscious thought... 949 01:14:39,724 --> 01:14:43,144 was "I can't believe it. I'm dying. 950 01:14:43,227 --> 01:14:48,649 On this shitty piece of ground, I'm dying... and I can't fuckin' believe it." 951 01:14:48,775 --> 01:14:52,945 Bobby was a surfer, he was a wrestler, he was a long-distance runner. 952 01:14:53,029 --> 01:14:55,823 We danced. He was active. Active, active. 953 01:14:55,907 --> 01:14:58,117 Our whole life was active. 954 01:14:58,201 --> 01:15:00,369 And now they're telling me that he's paralyzed. 955 01:15:00,495 --> 01:15:03,414 He couldn't believe it and I couldn't believe it. Right now... 956 01:15:03,498 --> 01:15:07,418 Bobby's not a boyfriend. He's not a husband. He's not a brother. 957 01:15:07,502 --> 01:15:10,505 It-It's very... 958 01:15:12,632 --> 01:15:14,592 It's very hard. 959 01:15:14,675 --> 01:15:16,928 What hurts the most... 960 01:15:17,011 --> 01:15:19,222 and this is a purely personal thing, you know? 961 01:15:19,347 --> 01:15:22,975 Right, wrong or indifferent, that's how I feel. 962 01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:25,103 When I was in the Marine Corps, 963 01:15:25,186 --> 01:15:28,106 I remember I was in the Marine Corps barracks in Washington... 964 01:15:28,189 --> 01:15:30,191 They call it "A," "F," and "I." 965 01:15:30,274 --> 01:15:33,111 And they had the Marine Corps drill team there. 966 01:15:33,194 --> 01:15:37,281 And I was standing at attention in my uniform... 967 01:15:37,365 --> 01:15:39,283 and they were playing the "Marine Corps Hymn". 968 01:15:39,367 --> 01:15:42,620 And then they played the 'star-Spangled Banner." 969 01:15:42,703 --> 01:15:44,914 And I actually started to cry. 970 01:15:46,374 --> 01:15:51,045 I cried because I was so proud to be an American, you know? 971 01:15:51,170 --> 01:15:53,965 And I was so proud to be a marine... 972 01:15:54,048 --> 01:15:57,051 and in uniform, standing there at attention. 973 01:15:59,053 --> 01:16:02,890 That-That represented so much to me... 974 01:16:02,974 --> 01:16:06,477 in the way of life and... 975 01:16:06,561 --> 01:16:09,063 That's gone, you know? 976 01:16:09,188 --> 01:16:12,483 And that hurt. That hurts. 977 01:16:12,567 --> 01:16:14,569 That's what I'm bitter about. 978 01:17:08,456 --> 01:17:12,543 Ha! Didn't think we were here, did you, you dirty rotten rats! 979 01:17:12,627 --> 01:17:14,754 We're still here! We'll always be here! 980 01:17:35,316 --> 01:17:39,153 Truman lied from 1950 on... 981 01:17:39,237 --> 01:17:42,156 on the nature and purposes of the French involvement, 982 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:48,079 the colonial reconquest of Vietnam... that we were financing and encouraging. 983 01:17:48,162 --> 01:17:50,581 Eisenhower lied about the reasons for... 984 01:17:50,665 --> 01:17:53,084 and the nature of our involvement with Diem, 985 01:17:53,167 --> 01:17:55,837 and the fact that he was in power, essentially, 986 01:17:55,962 --> 01:18:00,258 because of American support, American money, and for no other reason. 987 01:18:00,341 --> 01:18:05,680 Kennedy lied about the type of involvement we were doing there, 988 01:18:05,763 --> 01:18:07,682 our own combat involvement, 989 01:18:07,765 --> 01:18:11,269 and about the recommendations that were made to him for greater involvement. 990 01:18:11,352 --> 01:18:13,271 President Kennedy lied about... 991 01:18:13,354 --> 01:18:16,482 the degree of our participation in the overthrow of Diem. 992 01:18:17,859 --> 01:18:22,113 The, um... Johnson, of course, lied and lied and lied... 993 01:18:22,196 --> 01:18:24,740 about our provocations against the North Vietnamese... 994 01:18:24,866 --> 01:18:27,618 prior to and after the Tonkin Gulf incidents, 995 01:18:27,702 --> 01:18:31,289 about the plans for bombing North Vietnam, 996 01:18:31,372 --> 01:18:35,626 and the nature of the buildup... 997 01:18:35,710 --> 01:18:38,129 of American troops in Vietnam. 998 01:18:38,212 --> 01:18:42,633 Nixon, as we now know, misled and lied to the American public... 999 01:18:42,717 --> 01:18:46,179 for the first months of his office in terms of our bombing of Cambodia... 1000 01:18:46,262 --> 01:18:48,681 and of Laos, ground operations in Laos, 1001 01:18:50,016 --> 01:18:53,478 the reasons for our invasion of Cambodia and of Laos, 1002 01:18:53,561 --> 01:18:57,982 and the prospects for the mining at Haiphong that came about in 1972, 1003 01:18:58,065 --> 01:19:00,693 but was envisioned as early as 1969. 1004 01:19:01,986 --> 01:19:05,573 The American public was lied to month by month... 1005 01:19:05,698 --> 01:19:08,576 by each of these five administrations. 1006 01:19:08,701 --> 01:19:12,330 As I say, it's a tribute to the American public, 1007 01:19:12,413 --> 01:19:16,834 that their leaders perceived that they had to be lied to. 1008 01:19:16,918 --> 01:19:21,255 It's no tribute to us that it was so easy to fool the public. 1009 01:19:21,380 --> 01:19:23,841 We have adopted a plan... 1010 01:19:23,925 --> 01:19:27,386 which we have worked out in cooperation with the South Vietnamese... 1011 01:19:27,512 --> 01:19:32,350 for the complete withdrawal of all U.S. combat ground forces... 1012 01:19:32,433 --> 01:19:35,853 and their replacement by South Vietnamese forces... 1013 01:19:35,937 --> 01:19:38,856 on an orderly, scheduled timetable. 1014 01:19:38,940 --> 01:19:42,693 This withdrawal will be made from strength and not from weakness. 1015 01:19:42,777 --> 01:19:45,363 As South Vietnamese forces become stronger, 1016 01:19:45,446 --> 01:19:49,450 the rate of American withdrawal can become greater. 1017 01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,957 Congratulations to Battalion 332... 1018 01:19:56,082 --> 01:19:59,710 on your recent victories over the communists. 1019 01:19:59,794 --> 01:20:03,714 We ask ourselves, "When will peace come?" 1020 01:20:03,798 --> 01:20:07,385 And I tell you, if you chase the communists back to the north, 1021 01:20:07,468 --> 01:20:10,471 there won't be any war in this hamlet. 1022 01:20:10,555 --> 01:20:13,891 Help rebuild the houses. 1023 01:20:13,975 --> 01:20:16,102 Help the people. 1024 01:20:17,812 --> 01:20:20,565 Rid the hamlet of all V. C... 1025 01:20:20,648 --> 01:20:23,276 so there will be no more suffering and destruction... 1026 01:20:23,401 --> 01:20:26,863 for ourselves and our compatriots. 1027 01:20:31,492 --> 01:20:34,245 Oh, my friend. 1028 01:20:34,328 --> 01:20:36,414 - How you doing? Good to see you again. - You just get back? 1029 01:20:36,497 --> 01:20:39,584 - Yeah. How you doing, men? - Very good to see you. 1030 01:20:39,667 --> 01:20:41,919 How you doing? Trung, good seeing you. 1031 01:20:42,003 --> 01:20:45,423 - Good to see you, sir. - How you doing? Fine. 1032 01:20:45,506 --> 01:20:48,426 Just came in this afternoon, sir. Been very quiet? 1033 01:20:48,509 --> 01:20:51,929 - Except last time, when the, uh... - When the rockets went off? 1034 01:20:52,013 --> 01:20:53,931 Yeah. 1035 01:20:54,015 --> 01:20:57,018 Very nice. I read about it in Stars And Stripes. 1036 01:20:57,143 --> 01:20:59,604 That's one of our success stories here, this battalion is. 1037 01:20:59,687 --> 01:21:01,773 We had a real, uh... a lot of trouble with it. 1038 01:21:01,856 --> 01:21:04,275 We just gave, uh, four bronze stars... 1039 01:21:04,358 --> 01:21:07,445 and five Ar-Comms with V-device this week... 1040 01:21:07,528 --> 01:21:11,282 to a battalion commander and three of his officers and five soldiers. 1041 01:21:11,365 --> 01:21:14,786 And we have six N-pac awards... 1042 01:21:14,869 --> 01:21:17,455 pending for last Saturday night's action... 1043 01:21:17,538 --> 01:21:20,374 where we killed six V.C. And captured nine weapons. 1044 01:21:20,458 --> 01:21:21,417 Good grief. 1045 01:21:21,542 --> 01:21:26,798 He had been the recon company commander of the, uh, 263rd... 1046 01:21:26,881 --> 01:21:31,636 and he'd done a real tremendous job just as recon company commander. 1047 01:21:31,719 --> 01:21:34,806 And then they moved him over here. 1048 01:21:34,889 --> 01:21:37,489 In a ten-day period or two-week period, he completely reversed it. 1049 01:21:37,558 --> 01:21:42,522 They had the battalion here under a very poor major. 1050 01:21:42,647 --> 01:21:46,150 They had it to the point where the company commanders... 1051 01:21:46,234 --> 01:21:49,487 were throwing down their weapons and crying... or at least one of them did. 1052 01:21:49,570 --> 01:21:52,490 Ten days later they had a big contact with the V. C... 1053 01:21:52,573 --> 01:21:57,703 and in 3 days killed 42, lost none of their own. 1054 01:21:57,787 --> 01:22:00,373 He does it with a fairly limited staff. 1055 01:22:00,498 --> 01:22:03,835 Although some of his people, like that young major there, Major Yuk... 1056 01:22:03,918 --> 01:22:05,837 tremendous guy. 1057 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,465 He just heard his name over there. Hey. 1058 01:22:28,901 --> 01:22:31,446 It's no surprise that in a very poor country... 1059 01:22:31,571 --> 01:22:35,783 you can find people who will wear foreign uniforms. 1060 01:22:35,908 --> 01:22:37,785 What has always surprised us, 1061 01:22:37,910 --> 01:22:41,789 what we've never been willing to predict or understand, 1062 01:22:41,914 --> 01:22:44,792 is that the Vietnamese communist leadership... 1063 01:22:44,917 --> 01:22:48,045 can find enough people to live in the tunnels, 1064 01:22:48,129 --> 01:22:51,048 fight for nothing wearing ragged shorts, 1065 01:22:51,132 --> 01:22:53,634 year after year under the American bombs. 1066 01:22:53,759 --> 01:22:58,055 A war in which one side is entirely financed... 1067 01:22:58,139 --> 01:23:03,144 and equipped and supported by foreigners... is not a civil war. 1068 01:23:03,269 --> 01:23:05,146 The only foreigners in that country... 1069 01:23:05,271 --> 01:23:07,899 were the foreigners we financed in the first part of the war... 1070 01:23:07,982 --> 01:23:12,904 and the foreigners we were in the second half of the war. 1071 01:23:12,987 --> 01:23:17,408 Basically, we didn't want to acknowledge... the scale of our involvement there. 1072 01:23:17,492 --> 01:23:19,410 We didn't want to realize that it was our war, 1073 01:23:19,494 --> 01:23:23,748 because that would have been to say that every casualty on both sides... 1074 01:23:23,831 --> 01:23:26,334 was a casualty caused by our policy. 1075 01:23:26,459 --> 01:23:30,338 The question used to be "Might it be possible we were on the wrong side... 1076 01:23:30,421 --> 01:23:32,715 in the Vietnamese War?" 1077 01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,259 We weren't on the wrong side. 1078 01:23:35,343 --> 01:23:38,054 We are the wrong side. 1079 01:23:44,102 --> 01:23:47,271 You have exemplified, in your corner of the world, 1080 01:23:47,355 --> 01:23:49,524 patriotism of the highest order. 1081 01:23:49,649 --> 01:23:54,654 You have brought to your great task of organizing your country... 1082 01:23:54,737 --> 01:23:58,199 the greatest of courage, the greatest of statesmanship. 1083 01:24:09,335 --> 01:24:11,295 I had two possibilities. 1084 01:24:11,379 --> 01:24:14,632 Either I could submit to Washington's politics... 1085 01:24:14,715 --> 01:24:17,885 Every morning, "Yes, sir." 1086 01:24:18,010 --> 01:24:20,513 Or I would have to resign. 1087 01:24:23,266 --> 01:24:27,061 You can be sure that as a soldier I only submit very rarely. 1088 01:24:30,356 --> 01:24:32,316 And, in fact, never. 1089 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,236 I chose the second solution, that of resigning. 1090 01:24:35,319 --> 01:24:40,158 On the Vietnamese side, I would say the most encouraging factor... 1091 01:24:40,241 --> 01:24:43,035 is the promise offered by General Khanh's government. 1092 01:24:46,914 --> 01:24:51,335 Through a security service in the president's office, 1093 01:24:51,419 --> 01:24:54,839 we taped all communications with the outside. 1094 01:24:54,922 --> 01:24:58,342 All telephone communications. 1095 01:24:58,426 --> 01:25:02,346 And fortunately, among these taped telephone communications, 1096 01:25:02,430 --> 01:25:05,850 I still have the tape from which we can hear precisely... 1097 01:25:05,933 --> 01:25:07,977 General Taylor... 1098 01:25:10,521 --> 01:25:14,484 stating precisely that he wants me, General Khanh, 1099 01:25:16,944 --> 01:25:19,363 to leave Vietnam. 1100 01:25:19,447 --> 01:25:22,575 Can you let us hear it? 1101 01:25:25,119 --> 01:25:27,455 Certainly. I hope it works. 1102 01:25:30,792 --> 01:25:34,045 - General Taylor. - Uh, this is General Khanh speaking. 1103 01:25:34,128 --> 01:25:36,047 How are you? Glad to hear you. 1104 01:25:36,130 --> 01:25:39,550 Uh, uh, may I speak in French? 1105 01:26:05,660 --> 01:26:10,414 Mr. President and ladies and gentlemen, as our joint communique indicates, 1106 01:26:10,498 --> 01:26:13,751 President Thieu and I have had very constructive talks... 1107 01:26:13,835 --> 01:26:18,089 with regard to how we shall work together in the years ahead, 1108 01:26:18,172 --> 01:26:22,426 working for the program of peace, 1109 01:26:22,510 --> 01:26:27,473 which we now hope will all be the wave of the future, 1110 01:26:27,598 --> 01:26:30,768 not only for the Republic of Vietnam, 1111 01:26:30,852 --> 01:26:33,771 but for all of the countries in Indochina. 1112 01:26:54,208 --> 01:26:57,086 What kind of freedom could you preserve here... 1113 01:26:57,211 --> 01:27:01,966 when you put so many of our compatriots into prison... 1114 01:27:02,049 --> 01:27:05,887 without any charge, without any reason why? 1115 01:27:07,722 --> 01:27:11,976 Just because you want us to have freedom? 1116 01:27:12,059 --> 01:27:15,646 What kind of freedom could you give us? 1117 01:27:15,730 --> 01:27:19,650 We know that we only have freedom if we fight for it. 1118 01:27:19,734 --> 01:27:23,571 But here we fight for what? 1119 01:27:23,654 --> 01:27:25,573 We fight for prisons? 1120 01:27:30,578 --> 01:27:34,707 People can be arrested at any moment by any organization. 1121 01:27:37,335 --> 01:27:41,297 And then tortured in inhuman ways in all the prisons. 1122 01:27:42,548 --> 01:27:44,926 And, above all, in police stations. 1123 01:27:49,180 --> 01:27:52,725 And then imprisoned for years and years without trial. 1124 01:27:53,851 --> 01:27:55,895 Their only crime is loving their country. 1125 01:27:58,272 --> 01:28:01,526 They had the courage to tell the truth. 1126 01:28:01,609 --> 01:28:04,862 They asked for the liberation of political prisoners. 1127 01:28:07,281 --> 01:28:09,617 They asked for an end to the war. 1128 01:28:11,119 --> 01:28:15,206 They asked for peace, for national reconciliation. 1129 01:28:15,289 --> 01:28:19,752 And all that is considered a crime by the government of Thieu. 1130 01:28:26,050 --> 01:28:28,803 I was arrested in 1968. 1131 01:28:28,928 --> 01:28:31,931 I was at home when the security police came. 1132 01:28:33,307 --> 01:28:36,310 They took me to headquarters for a few questions... 1133 01:28:36,436 --> 01:28:38,438 and kept me. 1134 01:28:44,068 --> 01:28:47,738 You can't imagine how badly I was beaten. 1135 01:28:47,822 --> 01:28:51,492 Mostly on the head. My eyes are bad now. 1136 01:28:51,617 --> 01:28:55,079 After I was arrested, I was beaten so badly... 1137 01:28:55,163 --> 01:28:57,290 even now I sometimes have headaches... 1138 01:28:57,373 --> 01:28:59,667 and nosebleeds and ear-bleeds. 1139 01:29:03,504 --> 01:29:07,175 In those days, all we were getting to eat was rotten fish, 1140 01:29:07,300 --> 01:29:09,594 so we asked for some vegetables. 1141 01:29:09,677 --> 01:29:12,513 But when we complained, we were beaten and chained... 1142 01:29:12,597 --> 01:29:14,766 and lime powder was thrown on us. 1143 01:29:14,849 --> 01:29:18,311 And they poured water on us, and we had nowhere to run. 1144 01:29:23,816 --> 01:29:26,110 Our cells were this big... 1145 01:29:26,194 --> 01:29:28,946 and we could do nothing but stand where we were... 1146 01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:31,783 and get the water and the lime all over us. 1147 01:29:31,866 --> 01:29:34,786 Some of us lost our teeth and our hair. 1148 01:29:34,869 --> 01:29:39,290 And when the lime got wet, it just boiled up, bubbling all over us. 1149 01:29:39,373 --> 01:29:44,337 Our hair fell out and our skin became covered with sores. 1150 01:29:47,715 --> 01:29:50,301 They said that if we were innocent, 1151 01:29:50,384 --> 01:29:53,304 they would beat us until we were guilty, 1152 01:29:53,387 --> 01:29:58,142 and that if we were guilty, they would beat us until we repent. 1153 01:30:04,148 --> 01:30:09,987 In a country where the people don't hold national sovereignty, 1154 01:30:10,071 --> 01:30:13,533 in a country where the government has proven itself... 1155 01:30:13,616 --> 01:30:18,204 to be the enemy of the people, the prisoners are the patriots. 1156 01:30:20,289 --> 01:30:26,754 And no matter how badly treated we are, still we are proud, 1157 01:30:26,838 --> 01:30:28,756 because at least we are free, 1158 01:30:28,881 --> 01:30:34,095 instead of enslaved as so many of the so-called government officials. 1159 01:30:38,516 --> 01:30:40,435 And so, you see, 1160 01:30:40,518 --> 01:30:43,438 when a Vietnamese works for peace and for liberty, 1161 01:30:45,064 --> 01:30:47,442 he is considered a communist. 1162 01:30:51,946 --> 01:30:56,284 It is an honor for the communists to have to work for peace and justice. 1163 01:30:58,911 --> 01:31:02,707 So it is the government which gives validity to being a communist, 1164 01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:04,709 because they continue to say... 1165 01:31:04,792 --> 01:31:08,754 that the people who work for justice and for peace are communists. 1166 01:31:10,631 --> 01:31:12,508 You see? 1167 01:31:12,633 --> 01:31:14,760 We were learning to be good soldiers... 1168 01:31:14,844 --> 01:31:16,804 back when you're three, four, five, six years old. 1169 01:31:16,888 --> 01:31:21,225 That's when good ol' mom is telling you to obey the local camp regulations. 1170 01:31:21,309 --> 01:31:23,644 In this case, it's the house. 1171 01:31:23,728 --> 01:31:27,064 And you start to learn to respect authority. 1172 01:31:27,148 --> 01:31:30,067 And so, finally, lo and behold, at 20, 22 years old, 1173 01:31:30,151 --> 01:31:34,238 you find yourself in service and maybe take that last and final step, 1174 01:31:34,322 --> 01:31:39,410 where you become quite regimented... in a military form of discipline. 1175 01:31:39,494 --> 01:31:43,915 That stuff isn't worth the paper it's written on, if the basis isn't there. 1176 01:31:43,998 --> 01:31:47,460 You need that cornerstone that goes back to childhood, and who's teaching you, 1177 01:31:47,543 --> 01:31:52,048 but good old moms, women like yourselves. 1178 01:31:52,173 --> 01:31:55,426 It's terrifying. When you're facing a torture session with a bunch of gooks, 1179 01:31:55,510 --> 01:31:57,428 it's gonna be pretty darn miserable. 1180 01:31:57,512 --> 01:31:59,793 No doubt about it. You're scared. You're really petrified. 1181 01:31:59,847 --> 01:32:02,767 But at the other side, you have a bunch of women back there... 1182 01:32:02,850 --> 01:32:05,436 telling you, "You better do something," you know? 1183 01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,773 That's the wrath of God. You don't want 100 women climbing down your back, 1184 01:32:08,856 --> 01:32:11,484 So you figure the gooks aren't so bad. 1185 01:32:11,567 --> 01:32:13,528 So you press on. 1186 01:32:13,611 --> 01:32:16,280 In many respects, the destiny of our country, 1187 01:32:16,364 --> 01:32:19,617 and more personally, the destiny of me, 1188 01:32:19,700 --> 01:32:24,455 your men, your children... is in your hands. 1189 01:32:24,539 --> 01:32:27,959 If you are proud of the P.O. W. S and personally of me, 1190 01:32:28,042 --> 01:32:33,381 then you should be proud of yourselves, because I was what you made me to be. 1191 01:32:33,506 --> 01:32:37,885 As for my own view, uh, I thought through as best I could... 1192 01:32:37,969 --> 01:32:40,972 the meaning of Southeast Asia to the United States in the 1950s, 1193 01:32:41,055 --> 01:32:43,307 Looking backward and looking forward... 1194 01:32:43,391 --> 01:32:46,978 in terms of what I know about the dynamics of societies and so on. 1195 01:32:47,061 --> 01:32:50,022 And on balance... It is an on-balance judgment... 1196 01:32:50,106 --> 01:32:52,984 I came to the judgment that it's a vital interest to the United States. 1197 01:32:53,067 --> 01:32:55,570 I've never had any reason to change that judgment. 1198 01:32:57,238 --> 01:33:01,617 And, uh, therefore, I, uh, 1199 01:33:01,742 --> 01:33:06,080 I do believe that what we have done is generally right, 1200 01:33:06,164 --> 01:33:09,792 although I would have preferred to have seen a different, 1201 01:33:09,917 --> 01:33:11,919 more decisive military strategy. 1202 01:33:12,044 --> 01:33:14,338 Certainly, to me, 1203 01:33:14,422 --> 01:33:19,093 the day you can say that a sacrifice such as that is not worthwhile... 1204 01:33:19,218 --> 01:33:21,846 is the day that you've destroyed all your real values... 1205 01:33:21,929 --> 01:33:24,432 of what is worthwhile and what isn't. 1206 01:33:24,557 --> 01:33:26,434 And there's no question in my mind... 1207 01:33:26,559 --> 01:33:30,021 that he and everybody else that did what he did... 1208 01:33:30,104 --> 01:33:32,857 there's no sacrifice that is in vain. 1209 01:33:32,940 --> 01:33:37,862 Absolutely none. Down the line, that's the price you pay for freedom... 1210 01:33:37,945 --> 01:33:43,034 and that's the price that you pay for the kind of stature that we have... 1211 01:33:43,117 --> 01:33:47,789 and it's the kind of risk you take... to preserve the ideals that we have. 1212 01:33:47,872 --> 01:33:49,791 He had just a tremendous sense of humor... 1213 01:33:49,874 --> 01:33:55,546 and just an amazing, instinctive sense of what was important and what wasn't. 1214 01:33:55,630 --> 01:33:58,716 I remember when I was getting ready for our oldest daughter's wedding, 1215 01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,886 and I was upset because something or other wasn't going well, 1216 01:34:01,969 --> 01:34:05,306 and he called up from Pensacola and he said, "How are thing's going?" 1217 01:34:05,389 --> 01:34:07,934 And I said, "Fine, Bing, but such-and-such has happened." 1218 01:34:08,059 --> 01:34:10,978 He said, "Oh, Mom, don't sweat the small stuff." 1219 01:34:11,062 --> 01:34:13,231 You know, it just made all the difference. 1220 01:34:13,314 --> 01:34:16,067 I thought, "Gee. That really is small stuff, you know?" 1221 01:34:16,150 --> 01:34:18,236 And it was. Yeah. 1222 01:34:18,319 --> 01:34:20,863 And it made the whole thing much easier. 1223 01:34:20,988 --> 01:34:25,576 And, of course, I came up in a tradition where military service was... 1224 01:34:25,660 --> 01:34:28,913 In World War II, there was no question everybody was part of it. 1225 01:34:28,996 --> 01:34:31,499 There was not the kind of dissension and so forth... 1226 01:34:31,624 --> 01:34:36,129 that there has been surrounding the Vietnam thing. 1227 01:34:36,212 --> 01:34:38,756 But I think that most of the people of this country... 1228 01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,592 are too busy to get involved deeply... 1229 01:34:41,676 --> 01:34:43,594 in, uh, uh, 1230 01:34:43,678 --> 01:34:47,598 on, uh, the kind of things that the dissenters do. 1231 01:34:47,682 --> 01:34:50,685 In other words, I think that really the strength of our system, 1232 01:34:50,768 --> 01:34:52,854 and I think it's a terrific system, 1233 01:34:52,979 --> 01:34:57,358 is that you do rely on somebody like President Nixon for leadership. 1234 01:34:57,483 --> 01:35:02,613 I think his team of people with him are outstanding... 1235 01:35:02,697 --> 01:35:05,783 and, to me, the leadership that he has shown... 1236 01:35:05,867 --> 01:35:08,286 and decisions that he has made, 1237 01:35:08,369 --> 01:35:13,291 uh, really have... They're the kind of decisions... 1238 01:35:13,374 --> 01:35:15,793 I would expect from the president of this country. 1239 01:35:15,877 --> 01:35:19,380 And the action he has taken is the action I'd expect... 1240 01:35:19,505 --> 01:35:21,799 from the president of this country. 1241 01:35:21,883 --> 01:35:25,970 I think the whole executive, 1242 01:35:26,053 --> 01:35:31,976 legislative and judicial system that we have is superb. 1243 01:35:32,059 --> 01:35:36,814 It has worked many, many... far better than any other system I'm aware of... 1244 01:35:36,898 --> 01:35:40,485 and brought us to our state of power... 1245 01:35:40,568 --> 01:35:45,656 and, uh, really, of international stature... 1246 01:35:45,740 --> 01:35:51,579 that we have a responsibility to stay with and to uphold. 1247 01:35:54,665 --> 01:35:57,001 What did your son want to become? 1248 01:35:57,084 --> 01:35:59,921 I suspect he would have gone into the newspaper. 1249 01:36:00,004 --> 01:36:03,174 He actually had just got a job with the New York Times... 1250 01:36:03,257 --> 01:36:08,387 when he went into the, uh, O.C.S. 1251 01:36:09,597 --> 01:36:14,018 And he'd worked for newspapers in the summer... 1252 01:36:14,102 --> 01:36:16,979 while he was at college. 1253 01:36:20,108 --> 01:36:22,693 I suppose that it's like any pain. 1254 01:36:22,777 --> 01:36:26,739 You don't remember pain too well... afterwards. 1255 01:36:44,757 --> 01:36:48,636 Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. President, dear people. 1256 01:36:48,761 --> 01:36:52,390 I'm thrilled to be here with you guys. This is what I like... a captive audience. 1257 01:36:59,856 --> 01:37:02,400 It is always the custom at a dinner at the White House... 1258 01:37:02,483 --> 01:37:05,820 to have a toast to the honored guest. 1259 01:37:05,945 --> 01:37:08,823 The difficulty tonight is that there are so many honored guests... 1260 01:37:08,948 --> 01:37:11,576 that we would be drinking all night and into the day. 1261 01:37:19,333 --> 01:37:22,378 Somebody just said, "What's wrong with that?" 1262 01:37:24,046 --> 01:37:26,966 The most difficult decision that I have made since being president... 1263 01:37:27,049 --> 01:37:30,261 was on December the 18th of last year. 1264 01:37:30,344 --> 01:37:32,346 There... 1265 01:37:39,937 --> 01:37:41,814 And there were many occasions... 1266 01:37:41,898 --> 01:37:44,734 in the 10-day period after the decision was made... 1267 01:37:44,859 --> 01:37:47,779 when I wondered whether this country really supported it. 1268 01:37:50,156 --> 01:37:54,952 After having met each one of our honored guests this evening... 1269 01:37:55,036 --> 01:38:00,458 and after having talked to them, I think that all of us... 1270 01:38:00,541 --> 01:38:02,794 would like to join in a round of applause... 1271 01:38:02,877 --> 01:38:07,131 for the brave men that took those B-52s in and did the job. 1272 01:39:34,969 --> 01:39:37,430 My eight-year-old daughter was killed. 1273 01:39:38,973 --> 01:39:41,559 And my three-year-old son. 1274 01:39:41,642 --> 01:39:44,645 A son, three years old, killed. 1275 01:39:46,981 --> 01:39:49,484 Nixon, murderer of civilians. 1276 01:39:51,319 --> 01:39:55,406 What have I done to Nixon so that he comes here to bomb my country? 1277 01:39:57,033 --> 01:39:59,911 My daughter died right here. 1278 01:39:59,994 --> 01:40:02,497 She was feeding the pigs. 1279 01:40:02,580 --> 01:40:04,499 She was so sweet. 1280 01:40:06,167 --> 01:40:09,587 She is dead. The pigs are alive. 1281 01:40:11,339 --> 01:40:14,926 My mother and my children took shelter here. 1282 01:40:15,009 --> 01:40:17,011 Here they died. 1283 01:40:21,516 --> 01:40:23,601 The planes came from over there. 1284 01:40:23,684 --> 01:40:25,603 No targets here. 1285 01:40:25,686 --> 01:40:28,022 Only rice fields and houses. 1286 01:40:29,524 --> 01:40:32,777 I'll give you my daughter's beautiful shirt. 1287 01:40:34,529 --> 01:40:37,031 Take it back to the United States. 1288 01:40:38,533 --> 01:40:40,660 Tell them what happened here. 1289 01:40:40,785 --> 01:40:43,037 My daughter is dead. 1290 01:40:44,372 --> 01:40:46,707 She will never wear the shirt again. 1291 01:40:52,004 --> 01:40:54,382 Throw the shirt in Nixon's face. 1292 01:40:56,050 --> 01:41:00,388 Tell them she was only a little schoolgirl. 1293 01:43:22,655 --> 01:43:25,700 Well, the Oriental... 1294 01:43:25,825 --> 01:43:29,495 doesn't put the same high price on life as does a Westerner. 1295 01:43:31,038 --> 01:43:34,041 Life is plentiful, life is cheap in the Orient. 1296 01:43:35,668 --> 01:43:38,671 And, uh, as the, uh, 1297 01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:44,218 philosophy of the, uh, of the Orient, uh, 1298 01:43:45,887 --> 01:43:47,889 uh, expresses it, uh, 1299 01:43:49,557 --> 01:43:53,519 uh, life is, uh, 1300 01:43:54,896 --> 01:43:57,273 is not important. 1301 01:44:07,575 --> 01:44:09,911 During the missions, after the missions, 1302 01:44:09,994 --> 01:44:12,079 the result of what I was doing... 1303 01:44:12,205 --> 01:44:16,834 the result of this-this game, 1304 01:44:16,918 --> 01:44:21,339 this, uh, exercise of my technical expertise... 1305 01:44:21,422 --> 01:44:23,508 never really dawned on me. 1306 01:44:23,591 --> 01:44:29,180 That reality of the screams or the people being blown away... 1307 01:44:29,263 --> 01:44:31,265 or their homeland being destroyed, 1308 01:44:33,267 --> 01:44:37,772 uh, just was not a part of what I thought about. 1309 01:45:03,506 --> 01:45:06,217 Uh, we, as Americans, have never experienced that. 1310 01:45:06,300 --> 01:45:10,638 We've never experienced any kind of devastation. 1311 01:45:14,934 --> 01:45:18,813 When I was there, I never saw a child that got burned by napalm. 1312 01:45:22,024 --> 01:45:25,236 I didn't drop napalm, but I dropped other things just as bad. 1313 01:45:25,319 --> 01:45:29,407 I dropped C.B.U. s, which can't destroy anything. 1314 01:45:29,490 --> 01:45:31,993 It's meant for people. It's an antipersonnel weapon. 1315 01:45:32,076 --> 01:45:34,745 We used to drop canister upon canister of these things... 1316 01:45:34,829 --> 01:45:38,916 with 200 tumbling little balls in there about this big around... 1317 01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:41,252 with something like 600 pellets in each ball... 1318 01:45:41,335 --> 01:45:43,921 that would blow out as soon as it hit the ground, 1319 01:45:44,005 --> 01:45:46,257 uh, and shred people to pieces. 1320 01:45:46,340 --> 01:45:48,593 They couldn't be gotten out in many cases. 1321 01:45:48,676 --> 01:45:52,263 People would suffer. They would live, but they would suffer, you know? 1322 01:45:52,346 --> 01:45:54,265 Then often they would die afterwards. 1323 01:45:54,348 --> 01:45:57,935 This would cause people to have to take care of them, you know? 1324 01:45:58,019 --> 01:46:00,354 But I look at my children now... 1325 01:46:01,856 --> 01:46:06,944 and, uh, I don't know what would happen if, uh... 1326 01:46:07,028 --> 01:46:10,990 uh, what I would think about if someone napalmed them. 1327 01:46:43,314 --> 01:46:46,025 Do you think we've learned anything from all this? 1328 01:46:47,527 --> 01:46:49,695 I think we're trying not to. 1329 01:46:50,947 --> 01:46:53,324 I think I'm trying not to sometimes. 1330 01:46:53,407 --> 01:46:55,409 I can't even cry easily. 1331 01:46:56,410 --> 01:47:00,331 From my, uh, my manhood image. 1332 01:47:01,707 --> 01:47:04,877 I think Americans have tried... 1333 01:47:05,002 --> 01:47:08,005 We've all tried very hard... 1334 01:47:08,089 --> 01:47:10,007 to escape what we've learned in Vietnam, 1335 01:47:10,091 --> 01:47:14,345 to not come to the logical conclusions of what's happened there. 1336 01:47:14,429 --> 01:47:17,181 You know, the military does the same thing. 1337 01:47:17,265 --> 01:47:19,392 They don't realize that, um, 1338 01:47:21,102 --> 01:47:23,438 people fighting for their own freedom... 1339 01:47:25,940 --> 01:47:29,861 uh, are not gonna be stopped... 1340 01:47:29,944 --> 01:47:32,029 by just changing your tactics, 1341 01:47:32,113 --> 01:47:35,032 adding a little bit more sophisticated technology over here, 1342 01:47:35,116 --> 01:47:39,704 improving the tactics we used last time, not making quite the same mistakes. 1343 01:47:39,787 --> 01:47:43,374 Uh, you know, I think history operates a little different than that. 1344 01:47:43,458 --> 01:47:48,045 And I think that those kind of forces are not gonna be stopped. 1345 01:47:48,129 --> 01:47:51,716 I think Americans have worked extremely hard... 1346 01:47:52,967 --> 01:47:57,221 not to see, uh, the criminality, 1347 01:47:57,305 --> 01:48:01,225 uh, that their officials and their policy makers, 1348 01:48:01,309 --> 01:48:04,771 uh, have exhibited. 1349 01:49:42,910 --> 01:49:45,538 Number one! Number one! 1350 01:50:42,637 --> 01:50:44,806 It's your country, not a toilet, you bastards! 1351 01:50:44,931 --> 01:50:48,684 They oughta go to Cuba. That's where they belong. Or Russia. 1352 01:50:53,856 --> 01:50:57,941 Boo! 1353 01:50:58,111 --> 01:51:00,154 You motherfuckers! 1354 01:51:05,993 --> 01:51:08,913 Man, let me talk to somebody. I was in Vietnam. 1355 01:51:08,996 --> 01:51:10,915 I was a platoon leader over there. 1356 01:51:10,998 --> 01:51:13,334 What is this? What the hell is this? 1357 01:51:13,417 --> 01:51:15,795 We were the ones that got shot. 1358 01:51:15,878 --> 01:51:19,173 You guys were over there too with your damn cameras. 1359 01:51:22,677 --> 01:51:25,263 Holy... Make my day! 1360 01:51:40,194 --> 01:51:42,196 Come on, smile a little bit! 1361 01:51:42,321 --> 01:51:44,282 Come on! Smile! Smile! 1362 01:51:44,365 --> 01:51:47,869 Be happy! Smile! Everything isn't bad!119153

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