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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:32,110 MAN: You know that orange juice you have every morning? 2 00:02:32,277 --> 00:02:33,403 You know what's in that? 3 00:02:33,820 --> 00:02:34,863 Corn. 4 00:02:35,030 --> 00:02:37,699 And you know what's in the maple syrup on your pancakes? 5 00:02:37,866 --> 00:02:39,701 You know what makes it taste so good? 6 00:02:39,868 --> 00:02:42,245 Corn. When you're good and help with the trash... 7 00:02:42,412 --> 00:02:45,499 ...you know what makes the big, green bags biodegradable? 8 00:02:45,666 --> 00:02:46,792 Do you? 9 00:02:46,958 --> 00:02:48,585 Uh-huh. Corn. 10 00:02:48,752 --> 00:02:50,462 Corn starch. 11 00:02:50,629 --> 00:02:53,423 But Daddy's company didn't come up with that one. DuPont did. 12 00:02:58,887 --> 00:03:01,973 MARK: Porsche or Porsche? I've heard it both ways. 13 00:03:02,140 --> 00:03:05,143 Three years in Germany, I should know. What's German for "corn"? 14 00:03:05,310 --> 00:03:08,313 The German word I really like is kugevschrรฉflaer. That's "pen." 15 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,607 All those syllables just for "pen." 16 00:03:14,653 --> 00:03:17,989 Archer Daniels Midland. Most people have never heard of us. 17 00:03:18,156 --> 00:03:20,742 Chances are, they've never had a meal we're not part of. 18 00:03:20,909 --> 00:03:22,536 Just read the side of the package. 19 00:03:22,703 --> 00:03:25,956 That's us. Now ADM is taking the dextrose from the corn... 20 00:03:26,123 --> 00:03:29,876 ...and turning it into an amino acid called lysine. It's all very scientific. 21 00:03:30,043 --> 00:03:31,253 If you're a stockholder... 22 00:03:31,420 --> 00:03:34,881 ...all that matters is corn goes in one end and profit comes out the other. 23 00:03:35,048 --> 00:03:38,301 We have the largest lysine plant in the world. That's where I come in. 24 00:03:38,468 --> 00:03:39,928 - Hey, Kirk. - Mark. 25 00:03:40,095 --> 00:03:42,597 - When are we gonna hit some balls? - Anytime. 26 00:03:42,764 --> 00:03:45,892 What do they pay Kirk? What does a guy like that get? 27 00:03:46,059 --> 00:03:47,769 I bet he gets a hundred grand. 28 00:03:47,936 --> 00:03:51,148 He's just gonna sit behind that desk and ride it into the future. 29 00:03:51,314 --> 00:03:52,899 Good morgen. 30 00:04:01,032 --> 00:04:02,951 - Morning, Mark. - Morning. 31 00:04:03,118 --> 00:04:04,828 They have lysine results. 32 00:04:20,886 --> 00:04:22,804 Great. 33 00:04:24,681 --> 00:04:28,435 MAN: We adjusted the dextrose levels again, but the virus keeps showing up. 34 00:04:28,602 --> 00:04:32,856 I thought we had it surrounded this time. We started a new set of cultures. 35 00:04:34,524 --> 00:04:36,902 MARK: We'll get it. We just have to stay after it. 36 00:04:37,068 --> 00:04:39,613 The things eat sugar and that's what we're giving them. 37 00:04:39,780 --> 00:04:42,657 A warm place filled with sugar. 38 00:04:44,242 --> 00:04:48,872 The fucking thing is supposed to produce 113,000 tons annually. 39 00:04:49,039 --> 00:04:50,999 We're not gonna get anywhere close to that. 40 00:04:51,166 --> 00:04:54,711 We've got over $150 million in costs over there, guys. 41 00:04:54,878 --> 00:04:56,880 WILSON: Do the Japanese have these problems? 42 00:04:57,047 --> 00:04:59,424 I don't give a shit about the Japanese. 43 00:04:59,591 --> 00:05:01,551 You've gotta get the goddamn lysine bugs... 44 00:05:01,718 --> 00:05:04,387 ...to eat some dextrose and shit us out some money. 45 00:05:04,554 --> 00:05:06,223 We're having problems with this virus. 46 00:05:06,389 --> 00:05:08,225 ANDREAS: I don't want to hear about the virus. 47 00:05:08,391 --> 00:05:10,227 How much are we losing a month? 48 00:05:11,436 --> 00:05:15,607 We are down like seven million per. 49 00:05:15,899 --> 00:05:18,068 That's not gonna fly much longer. 50 00:05:18,235 --> 00:05:22,405 You want to go in next month, tell my father we're sucking the hind tit on this? 51 00:05:22,572 --> 00:05:23,907 I sure don't. 52 00:05:24,074 --> 00:05:27,994 We're number 44 on the Fortune 500 list, Mark. 53 00:05:28,161 --> 00:05:31,748 I don't want this turning us into number 45. 54 00:05:31,915 --> 00:05:33,250 Fix it. 55 00:05:35,085 --> 00:05:38,755 MARK: Feed a chicken corn and it gets sick, like what happened to the first settlers. 56 00:05:38,922 --> 00:05:41,174 Pellagra disease. Niacin deficiency. 57 00:05:41,341 --> 00:05:44,636 Gave them all sorts of problems: dermatitis, ataxia, even dementia. 58 00:05:44,803 --> 00:05:48,265 Feed a chicken corn and lysine and it goes from egg to supermarket fryer... 59 00:05:48,431 --> 00:05:50,350 ...in six months instead of eight. 60 00:05:50,517 --> 00:05:52,227 GINGER: Mark? 61 00:05:53,436 --> 00:05:55,188 Where are you? 62 00:05:57,274 --> 00:05:58,441 Hey, you look great. 63 00:05:58,650 --> 00:06:00,068 Oh. 64 00:06:01,820 --> 00:06:04,573 They got the first wall of the stables up today. See that? 65 00:06:04,739 --> 00:06:07,117 You know they're doing a new thing in hydroponics? 66 00:06:07,284 --> 00:06:10,787 They're now feeding lysine to the jumbo shrimp. 67 00:06:11,371 --> 00:06:12,414 Can you imagine that? 68 00:06:12,581 --> 00:06:15,542 You're a jumbo shrimp and one day some corn goes floating by. 69 00:06:15,709 --> 00:06:17,919 What do you think about that? 70 00:06:18,086 --> 00:06:19,212 Weird, right? 71 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:21,298 There's an opening in the plant in Mexico. 72 00:06:21,464 --> 00:06:23,967 They might need me to go down and set some stuff up. 73 00:06:24,134 --> 00:06:25,802 What do you think about Mexico? 74 00:06:27,012 --> 00:06:28,597 I thought we were getting horses. 75 00:06:30,849 --> 00:06:32,142 Toro. 76 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:34,227 That's what Spanish bullfighters say. 77 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:37,272 But it's also what the Japanese call the high-end tuna sushi. 78 00:06:37,439 --> 00:06:39,649 Toro. Raw fish. 79 00:06:39,816 --> 00:06:42,652 Who went first on that one? The guy without the grill. 80 00:06:42,819 --> 00:06:45,280 I've been to Tokyo. They sell little-girl underwear... 81 00:06:45,447 --> 00:06:49,242 ...in the vending machines right on the main drag, the Ginza, or whatever. 82 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:54,414 Guys in suits buying used girl panties. How is that okay? That's not okay. 83 00:06:55,999 --> 00:06:57,000 Yeah. 84 00:06:57,167 --> 00:07:00,420 LIZ: There's a Mr. Nakawara calling from the Ajinomoto Corporation. 85 00:07:00,587 --> 00:07:03,840 He says you know him and he needs to speak with you. 86 00:07:04,007 --> 00:07:05,050 Yeah, put him through. 87 00:07:05,216 --> 00:07:09,387 MARK: It's the Japanese. There's this guy, Nakawara. He works at Ajinomoto. 88 00:07:09,554 --> 00:07:11,556 He was here a couple weeks ago. You met him. 89 00:07:11,723 --> 00:07:14,517 I've been talking to him at work, but sometimes from home... 90 00:07:14,684 --> 00:07:16,645 ...because of the time difference. 91 00:07:16,811 --> 00:07:21,358 Mick, this guy knew everything. Everything. 92 00:07:21,524 --> 00:07:25,445 He says to me, "Hey, you know that total nightmare you guys had May, June, July?" 93 00:07:25,612 --> 00:07:27,989 Before I ask him what he's talking about, he goes: 94 00:07:28,156 --> 00:07:33,662 "Those months when ADM was losing $7 million a month in the lysine business." 95 00:07:33,828 --> 00:07:35,205 Mick, I couldn't believe it. 96 00:07:35,372 --> 00:07:38,625 He goes on to tell me that one of our highest-paid employees... 97 00:07:38,792 --> 00:07:43,880 ...is actually an employee of Ajinomoto, who is sabotaging the plant. 98 00:07:44,047 --> 00:07:48,677 They're injecting a virus into the dextrose and contaminating the whole deal. 99 00:07:49,219 --> 00:07:50,387 That's the problem. 100 00:07:50,553 --> 00:07:52,889 I'm telling you, Mick, it's like Rising Sun. 101 00:07:53,056 --> 00:07:55,558 It's like the Crichton novel. It's just like that. 102 00:07:55,725 --> 00:07:58,186 I go, "Why are you talking to me?" Know what he says? 103 00:07:58,353 --> 00:08:00,063 Yeah, I know what he says. 104 00:08:01,064 --> 00:08:02,899 How much does he want? 105 00:08:03,775 --> 00:08:05,151 Ten million dollars. 106 00:08:06,403 --> 00:08:10,740 Ten million, but that gives you the identity of the saboteur... 107 00:08:10,907 --> 00:08:14,411 ...the secret identity, and a new lysine bug that is immune to the virus. 108 00:08:14,577 --> 00:08:17,330 We have the plant up and running in three days. 109 00:08:17,497 --> 00:08:19,290 How well do you know this guy? 110 00:08:20,208 --> 00:08:21,376 [SIGHS] 111 00:08:21,543 --> 00:08:25,213 I met him when he was here. We've spoken on the phone half a dozen times. 112 00:08:25,380 --> 00:08:26,756 So not very well. 113 00:08:27,799 --> 00:08:31,177 Very well? No, I wouldn't say that. 114 00:08:31,344 --> 00:08:34,973 If you hear from him again, talk him down on the price. 115 00:08:35,140 --> 00:08:37,600 Find out the least amount of money he'd settle for. 116 00:08:37,767 --> 00:08:43,398 I mean, if we can get a bug that's resistant to the virus, this might be worth it. 117 00:08:43,565 --> 00:08:44,774 But keep this secret. 118 00:08:44,941 --> 00:08:48,194 If there is a mole, I don't want him to know that we're on to him. 119 00:08:48,361 --> 00:08:49,529 Absolutely. 120 00:08:53,241 --> 00:08:55,618 MARK: This would be a great place for some outlet stores. 121 00:08:55,785 --> 00:08:58,955 People would come from all over southern Illinois, probably Missouri. 122 00:08:59,122 --> 00:09:01,041 Famous name-brand labels and appliances... 123 00:09:01,207 --> 00:09:03,835 ...at savings of up to 50 percent every day. 124 00:09:04,085 --> 00:09:06,796 Maybe a food court with a Mexican place. 125 00:09:07,756 --> 00:09:11,551 The birds eat the bugs, the cars eat the birds, the rust eats the cars... 126 00:09:11,718 --> 00:09:14,471 -...and new construction eats the rust. GINGER: Corky! 127 00:09:14,637 --> 00:09:17,640 GINGER: Alexander says there's a bat in his room. 128 00:09:22,812 --> 00:09:24,397 The FBI? 129 00:09:26,483 --> 00:09:28,610 God, no. 130 00:09:28,777 --> 00:09:32,906 I thought you wanted me to talk him down on the price. And I was doing it. 131 00:09:33,073 --> 00:09:35,950 We're not gonna sit back and let the Japanese fuck us sideways. 132 00:09:36,117 --> 00:09:39,829 I don't understand. We weren't gonna mention it and now he's in on it? 133 00:09:39,996 --> 00:09:43,083 Of course he's in on it. If there's a mole, it's a security issue. 134 00:09:43,249 --> 00:09:44,751 I'll be sitting in with the FBI. 135 00:09:45,210 --> 00:09:48,004 I already told you everything there is to tell. 136 00:09:48,171 --> 00:09:49,756 I mean, what is the point? 137 00:09:49,923 --> 00:09:51,758 CHEVIRON: Mark. Calm down. All right? 138 00:09:51,925 --> 00:09:55,011 We don't like the idea of talking to the FBI any more than you do. 139 00:09:55,178 --> 00:09:59,682 They're just gonna tape the guy's calls, ask you a few questions. No big deal. 140 00:10:00,391 --> 00:10:02,060 Questions? 141 00:10:04,479 --> 00:10:05,522 Jesus. 142 00:10:06,523 --> 00:10:07,857 Mark? 143 00:10:08,024 --> 00:10:09,859 GINGER: The FBI? 144 00:10:10,026 --> 00:10:12,445 Why do you have to talk to the FBI? It's their plant. 145 00:10:12,612 --> 00:10:15,156 Just-- Just let them talk to the FBI. 146 00:10:15,698 --> 00:10:18,243 Babe, I am really uncomfortable with this. 147 00:10:18,409 --> 00:10:20,495 There are some things that are going on here. 148 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,915 What does that mean, "things"? 149 00:10:24,082 --> 00:10:28,711 MARK [OVER PHONE]: It just-- It means that we have to be careful. 150 00:10:28,878 --> 00:10:33,216 Well, whatever you do, Corky, no matter what's going on... 151 00:10:33,383 --> 00:10:36,553 ...just be honest with them and tell them the truth, okay? 152 00:10:37,095 --> 00:10:40,682 MARK: He said he wanted the money wired... 153 00:10:43,268 --> 00:10:46,729 ...into a numbered account in Switzerland... 154 00:10:46,896 --> 00:10:49,149 ...and then also in the Caribbean. 155 00:10:52,610 --> 00:10:58,116 Uh... And when did you last have contact with him? 156 00:10:58,283 --> 00:11:00,034 Two days ago. 157 00:11:01,744 --> 00:11:04,747 But I think he's getting suspicious. 158 00:11:05,415 --> 00:11:10,670 I've been dragging this thing along. I think if we don't make a move... 159 00:11:10,837 --> 00:11:13,047 I mean, he could already have backed down here. 160 00:11:14,048 --> 00:11:17,594 And these calls, they've been coming in on your home line? 161 00:11:20,388 --> 00:11:24,767 Well, I have an ADM line at my house. It's a business line. 162 00:11:25,977 --> 00:11:28,938 They've been coming in on the business line. 163 00:11:29,105 --> 00:11:32,775 Well, I think we should start with... 164 00:11:32,942 --> 00:11:36,070 ...putting a recording device on your phone. 165 00:11:36,237 --> 00:11:37,739 MARK: There's a sale at Bachrach's. 166 00:11:37,906 --> 00:11:40,658 They have those Oscar de la Renta ties that nobody buys. 167 00:11:40,825 --> 00:11:42,827 What are they, two for one for another week? 168 00:11:42,994 --> 00:11:46,122 Diagonal bands of color hanging around your neck. 169 00:11:46,289 --> 00:11:48,458 They never put the nice Brioni ties on sale. 170 00:11:48,625 --> 00:11:50,501 I should just get all my ties in Paris... 171 00:11:50,668 --> 00:11:53,463 ...wear them once or twice and shove them in a duty-free bag. 172 00:11:53,630 --> 00:11:55,757 Nobody gets stopped at customs for ties. 173 00:11:55,924 --> 00:11:57,717 I can help with that. 174 00:11:59,594 --> 00:12:01,346 So... 175 00:12:01,512 --> 00:12:03,181 ...that's it, then. 176 00:12:03,848 --> 00:12:05,516 I can g0? 177 00:12:06,809 --> 00:12:09,520 Listen. Why don't...? Ahem. 178 00:12:11,147 --> 00:12:14,150 I'd like to come out tomorrow, get on that phone. 179 00:12:14,317 --> 00:12:17,153 Great. No problem. 180 00:12:18,696 --> 00:12:21,032 - Thank you for your time. - Thank you. 181 00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:48,601 You told the truth, Mark. That's all you can do. 182 00:12:49,143 --> 00:12:50,520 I never even had the chance. 183 00:12:53,690 --> 00:12:55,984 They were watching me the whole time. 184 00:12:58,653 --> 00:13:00,822 Cheviron was in the room. 185 00:13:10,832 --> 00:13:14,711 Mick Andreas gets the vice president of the United States as his godfather. 186 00:13:14,877 --> 00:13:17,171 He goes to Richard Nixon's house for Thanksgiving. 187 00:13:17,338 --> 00:13:19,882 It's not like his parents died in a car accident... 188 00:13:20,049 --> 00:13:22,051 ...and he ended up in an orphanage. 189 00:13:22,302 --> 00:13:24,429 Mick's dad wrote a check to the Nixon campaign. 190 00:13:24,595 --> 00:13:27,056 It wound up in the account of the Watergate burglars. 191 00:13:27,223 --> 00:13:29,225 Did he admit it? I don't think so. 192 00:13:29,392 --> 00:13:31,686 Besides, ADM probably owns the FBI. 193 00:13:31,853 --> 00:13:34,564 They probably wanted me to move into Dwayne's old house... 194 00:13:34,731 --> 00:13:37,817 ...because they got it wired like in a Crichton novel. 195 00:13:37,984 --> 00:13:39,902 LIZ: Marty Allison called. 196 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:44,741 And Sid Hulse wants to know if you can have dinner at 7:00 instead of 7:30. 197 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:55,752 SID: Great earrings, Ginger. 198 00:13:55,918 --> 00:13:58,421 Bet you can see those shining from space. 199 00:13:58,588 --> 00:14:01,758 Mark got them abroad. 200 00:14:01,924 --> 00:14:03,384 I can't remember where. 201 00:14:03,551 --> 00:14:05,094 Nigeria? 202 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,055 Not funny, Sid. 203 00:14:07,221 --> 00:14:08,431 SID: You're telling me. 204 00:14:08,598 --> 00:14:09,932 Yam LAUGHS 205 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,518 MARK: So, Sid, you're off tomorrow? 206 00:14:13,728 --> 00:14:14,937 Where to? 207 00:14:15,104 --> 00:14:16,898 SID: West Coast swing. 208 00:14:17,690 --> 00:14:20,026 Gotta get up there. Kick some Japanese butt. 209 00:14:22,028 --> 00:14:23,654 MARK: I'm not gonna see you for weeks? 210 00:14:23,821 --> 00:14:26,366 Maybe longer if I get lost in the Ginza. 211 00:14:27,784 --> 00:14:29,744 Have a great trip, Sid. 212 00:14:33,081 --> 00:14:35,041 GINGER [WHISPERING]: Just tell them everything. 213 00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:37,377 We'll leave. 214 00:14:38,461 --> 00:14:41,089 I don't like what this company is doing to you. 215 00:14:41,255 --> 00:14:44,592 This is a chance to start somewhere new. 216 00:14:44,759 --> 00:14:47,053 Remember, you said Mexico? 217 00:14:47,929 --> 00:14:53,226 I may tell them at some point. But now, I gotta toe the company line here. 218 00:14:53,393 --> 00:14:55,228 Mark... 219 00:14:55,645 --> 00:14:58,231 ...if you don't tell them, I will. 220 00:14:59,774 --> 00:15:01,567 I can't. 221 00:15:02,193 --> 00:15:04,028 Not now. 222 00:15:04,529 --> 00:15:06,114 [DOORBELL RINGS] 223 00:15:10,701 --> 00:15:11,744 [DOOR OPENS] 224 00:15:12,995 --> 00:15:15,164 Hello. Please. 225 00:15:16,666 --> 00:15:18,960 Agent Shepard, my wife, Ginger. 226 00:15:19,127 --> 00:15:22,171 SHEPARD: Ma'am. I know it's late. 227 00:15:22,338 --> 00:15:24,215 I'll be out of your hair in a minute. 228 00:15:24,674 --> 00:15:27,593 Great. Maybe a cup of coffee for Agent Shepard? 229 00:15:28,094 --> 00:15:29,512 0K8)'- 230 00:15:30,805 --> 00:15:33,558 SHEPARD: Just show me where the line in question... 231 00:15:33,724 --> 00:15:34,934 MARK: It's that one over there. 232 00:15:35,101 --> 00:15:38,187 MARK: There should be a TV show about a guy who calls home and he's there. 233 00:15:38,354 --> 00:15:41,357 He answers, he's talking to himself, only it's someone else. 234 00:15:41,524 --> 00:15:44,861 He's somehow divided into two and the second one of him drives away. 235 00:15:45,027 --> 00:15:47,488 The show is about him trying to find the guy. 236 00:15:47,655 --> 00:15:50,575 I'll give you a call tomorrow. We can test it out. 237 00:15:50,741 --> 00:15:53,244 Great. Great. Okay. Thank you for coming by. 238 00:15:53,411 --> 00:15:54,454 - Good night. - Night. 239 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:56,205 Good night, Mrs. Whitacre. 240 00:15:56,372 --> 00:15:57,665 GINGER: Good night. 241 00:16:02,295 --> 00:16:05,381 - Are you gonna say something, or am I? - Don't. 242 00:16:08,509 --> 00:16:10,094 Bflan? 243 00:16:11,387 --> 00:16:13,181 Hey, got a minute? 244 00:16:17,602 --> 00:16:18,936 Um... 245 00:16:22,231 --> 00:16:24,400 [WHISPERING] Can I talk to you in the car? 246 00:16:25,485 --> 00:16:27,195 Sure. 247 00:16:32,909 --> 00:16:34,368 [CAR DOOR OPENS] 248 00:16:36,621 --> 00:16:37,914 [CAR DOOR CLOSES] 249 00:16:39,499 --> 00:16:43,711 We could go back inside if you want. 250 00:16:43,878 --> 00:16:46,672 They might have it bugged. We're safer out here. 251 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:48,174 Bugged? 252 00:16:49,091 --> 00:16:50,343 What? 253 00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:52,595 Who? 254 00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:55,348 Us? 255 00:16:56,265 --> 00:16:59,143 All right, there's things I know. If I decide to tell you... 256 00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:00,603 ...could I be prosecuted? 257 00:17:00,770 --> 00:17:03,648 I cannot provide you with immunity, but any information... 258 00:17:03,814 --> 00:17:06,359 ...about your involvement in criminal activity... 259 00:17:06,526 --> 00:17:10,571 ...would be discussed in a favorable light with the U.S. Attorney's office. 260 00:17:13,824 --> 00:17:17,828 Okay. Everything I told you yesterday about Nakawara was true. Absolutely. 261 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:22,416 Except one thing. He never called me on my business line. 262 00:17:22,583 --> 00:17:25,461 Well, why did you tell me that he did? 263 00:17:25,628 --> 00:17:29,549 Before I spoke with you yesterday, I was coached by the guys at ADM... 264 00:17:29,715 --> 00:17:32,843 ...to tell you that he called on my business line, not my home line. 265 00:17:33,010 --> 00:17:34,053 Why? 266 00:17:36,639 --> 00:17:40,142 What I'm about to tell you, it involves something very large. 267 00:17:40,351 --> 00:17:44,647 This Nakawara extortion thing is nothing compared to it, nothing at all. 268 00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:50,987 This involves price fixing in the lysine business. 269 00:17:51,862 --> 00:17:53,739 - Now-- - Wait, hang on. 270 00:17:59,870 --> 00:18:01,122 Take some notes. 271 00:18:02,248 --> 00:18:03,332 [SHEPARD SIGHS] 272 00:18:03,499 --> 00:18:06,669 - Okay, go on. - Price fixing in the lysine business. 273 00:18:07,712 --> 00:18:11,173 I have been in several meetings with our Japanese and Korean competitors... 274 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:15,177 ...over the last few months, where the sole purpose was to fix the prices. 275 00:18:15,344 --> 00:18:17,722 ADM made me go to those meetings. 276 00:18:17,888 --> 00:18:19,682 See, that's why they wanted me to lie. 277 00:18:19,849 --> 00:18:22,393 Because the Nakawara calls came in on my home line... 278 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,521 ...but so do the calls from the people we're fixing prices with. 279 00:18:25,688 --> 00:18:27,356 They don't want you to hear those. 280 00:18:27,523 --> 00:18:30,901 They instructed me to tell you the Nakawara calls came in on my ADM line. 281 00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:34,572 But I realized that once you guys started digging around in the records... 282 00:18:34,739 --> 00:18:37,116 ...you'd see I have all these calls to Japan. 283 00:18:37,283 --> 00:18:40,286 Right? That's what scared me. Nobody's got more calls than me. 284 00:18:40,453 --> 00:18:44,040 So if you figure out the price-fixing thing, I'd be the fall guy. 285 00:18:44,206 --> 00:18:47,251 Who told you to participate in these price-fixing talks? 286 00:18:52,506 --> 00:18:55,760 I'm operating under the direction of Mick and Dwayne Andreas. 287 00:18:56,010 --> 00:18:57,720 [ENGINE STARTS] 288 00:19:02,266 --> 00:19:04,644 MARK: He seems like a real good guy. 289 00:19:04,810 --> 00:19:08,189 I hope he doesn't mind me calling him Brian instead of Agent Shepard. 290 00:19:08,356 --> 00:19:09,774 I might even try Bri out. 291 00:19:09,940 --> 00:19:12,068 This must be very different for him... 292 00:19:12,234 --> 00:19:15,488 ...talking to a guy like me instead of a bank robber or a drug dealer. 293 00:19:16,614 --> 00:19:19,075 I could see us fishing or whatever. 294 00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:23,371 What a good listener. You don't meet one of those every day. 295 00:19:27,291 --> 00:19:28,793 Morning. 296 00:19:47,436 --> 00:19:48,729 Morning. 297 00:19:48,896 --> 00:19:50,481 What happened last night? 298 00:19:50,648 --> 00:19:52,942 What do you mean? Nothing. Well, they put a... 299 00:19:53,776 --> 00:19:56,112 ...recorder on the phone. 300 00:19:57,446 --> 00:19:58,823 That's it? 301 00:19:58,989 --> 00:20:00,533 Well, yeah. 302 00:20:01,325 --> 00:20:03,285 He said when Nakawara calls... 303 00:20:03,452 --> 00:20:07,748 ...I just flip a switch and record the conversation. 304 00:20:10,584 --> 00:20:12,086 Yeah? 305 00:20:12,503 --> 00:20:14,422 - Oh. Put her through. - Make sure you do it. 306 00:20:14,588 --> 00:20:16,298 They have ways of checking up. 307 00:20:16,465 --> 00:20:18,092 Sure thing. 308 00:20:18,926 --> 00:20:20,720 Hi, hon. 309 00:20:20,886 --> 00:20:22,138 What? 310 00:20:23,139 --> 00:20:25,141 Slow down, honey, slow-- 311 00:20:25,850 --> 00:20:27,476 What? 312 00:20:34,024 --> 00:20:35,109 What? 313 00:20:36,318 --> 00:20:40,156 SHEPARD: A pound of bacon, a peanut butter sandwich, some vitamins. 314 00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:47,496 Anything that ADM has a hand in, it's all fixed. That's what he's telling me. 315 00:20:47,663 --> 00:20:49,665 I mean, basically... 316 00:20:49,832 --> 00:20:53,002 I mean, everyone in this country is a victim of corporate crime... 317 00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:55,337 ...by the time they finish breakfast. 318 00:20:56,046 --> 00:20:58,632 MARK: You think the automobile companies can't make a oar... 319 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:00,509 ...that gets 100 miles to the gallon? 320 00:21:00,676 --> 00:21:03,387 You think the networks don't know who'll win the World Series... 321 00:21:03,554 --> 00:21:04,680 ...before the season starts? 322 00:21:04,847 --> 00:21:07,516 Paranoid is what people who are trying to take advantage... 323 00:21:07,683 --> 00:21:10,102 ...call you to get you to drop your guard. 324 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:12,188 I read that in an in-flight magazine. 325 00:21:12,605 --> 00:21:17,693 One potential problem I see moving ahead with ADM is this guy Cheviron. 326 00:21:17,860 --> 00:21:22,031 He wants to be kept in on the loop on everything that we're doing. 327 00:21:27,745 --> 00:21:29,538 I want to meet Mark Whitacre. 328 00:21:30,372 --> 00:21:35,169 You said they were only gonna tap one line. One line. 329 00:21:35,336 --> 00:21:38,380 - They are only monitoring one line. - That is not true. 330 00:21:38,547 --> 00:21:42,051 That is absolutely not true. I just got off the phone with my wife. 331 00:21:42,218 --> 00:21:44,887 Some woman named Regina at the phone company called her... 332 00:21:45,054 --> 00:21:48,265 ...and said that both my lines are tapped. My home phone. 333 00:21:48,432 --> 00:21:51,352 Come on, Mark. The phone company doesn't call people and say: 334 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:55,898 "Hello, we just wanted to let you know that the FBI is tapping your phone lines." 335 00:21:56,065 --> 00:21:58,234 Then why would Regina say that? 336 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,737 She didn't say it. You're saying it. 337 00:22:02,530 --> 00:22:03,572 Call my wife. 338 00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:06,909 - Call Regina. - Fine. Mark. 339 00:22:07,451 --> 00:22:10,371 I Will. All right? I Will. 340 00:22:10,538 --> 00:22:12,206 Good. 341 00:22:18,087 --> 00:22:19,421 I don't like wool on skin. 342 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,883 Not even that merino wool they have at Marshall Field in Chicago. 343 00:22:23,050 --> 00:22:26,095 Ginger likes it because it's formfitting, but she likes avocados. 344 00:22:26,262 --> 00:22:28,430 And who wants that texture in their mouth? 345 00:22:28,597 --> 00:22:32,601 Who'd make up someone named Regina? It's the capital of Saskatchewan. 346 00:22:36,272 --> 00:22:38,440 [PHONE RINGS] 347 00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:41,527 FBI, Shepard. 348 00:22:41,694 --> 00:22:44,029 CHEVRON". Hello, Brian. It's Mark Cheviron at ADM. 349 00:22:44,196 --> 00:22:45,531 Yeah, Mark. 350 00:22:45,698 --> 00:22:49,285 I was talking to you guys a couple days ago about which of the lines... 351 00:22:49,451 --> 00:22:51,912 ...at Mark Whitacre's house you would be monitoring... 352 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:55,165 ...and we had agreed it would only be the business line... 353 00:22:55,332 --> 00:22:57,918 ...so that's all you did, right? 354 00:22:58,627 --> 00:23:01,046 I really can't answer that. 355 00:23:02,214 --> 00:23:04,133 Uh-- Okay. 356 00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:05,843 Thank you. 357 00:23:17,479 --> 00:23:22,026 We have decided we will no longer be cooperating with any further FBI requests. 358 00:23:22,192 --> 00:23:24,111 I knew it. I knew it. 359 00:23:24,278 --> 00:23:28,282 I told you and you wouldn't listen. You said, "Just the office line, Mark." 360 00:23:29,491 --> 00:23:31,285 Evidently, they were lying to us too. 361 00:23:31,452 --> 00:23:35,080 Well, evidently, you can't keep track of what the FBl's doing. 362 00:23:35,581 --> 00:23:37,082 [PHONE RINGS] 363 00:23:37,875 --> 00:23:38,918 Yeah? 364 00:23:39,084 --> 00:23:41,170 LIZ: The call you were expecting, Mark? 365 00:23:41,545 --> 00:23:42,963 Well, put him through. 366 00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:45,382 It's a Swedish deal I'm working on. 367 00:23:46,342 --> 00:23:49,511 - Mark Whitacre. - Hey, Mark, it's Brian Shepard. 368 00:23:49,678 --> 00:23:51,847 I told Shepard we're done working with him now. 369 00:23:52,014 --> 00:23:54,433 Hi. So good to hear from you. 370 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,228 I want to bring my supervisor by to meet you. 371 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,147 This weekend be okay? 372 00:24:00,314 --> 00:24:02,191 Well, great. 373 00:24:02,358 --> 00:24:05,527 Well-- So Mr. Andreas is in my office right now. 374 00:24:06,570 --> 00:24:08,280 SHEPARD: Okay. - So I'll talk to you later. 375 00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:09,740 - Okay. - Good. 376 00:24:09,907 --> 00:24:11,867 What do I do if this Shepard guy calls? 377 00:24:12,034 --> 00:24:14,662 You let me know about it, and I'll tell my dad. 378 00:24:14,828 --> 00:24:17,373 But you're done talking to them. 379 00:24:18,248 --> 00:24:20,167 Absolutely. 380 00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:26,382 Okay, guys, I'm gonna go over the rules. 381 00:24:26,548 --> 00:24:30,302 There's no running, no pushing, no horseplay by the pool. 382 00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:32,888 And when you have fished all the leaves out... 383 00:24:33,055 --> 00:24:36,767 ...you go into the garage and get the cover for the pool. 384 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:40,354 And I'm gonna go get your dad when he's done... 385 00:24:40,521 --> 00:24:42,731 ...and he's gonna come and do an inspection. 386 00:24:42,898 --> 00:24:45,192 - What was that, honey? ALEXANDER: You already told us this. 387 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,154 GINGER: Honey, well, I'm going over it again. 388 00:24:51,407 --> 00:24:54,368 Now, what is the scoop with all my phones being tapped? 389 00:24:54,535 --> 00:24:57,579 The only listening device was the recorder, Mark. 390 00:24:57,746 --> 00:25:03,085 We had a trap-and-trace device on your home line, but we can't listen in on that. 391 00:25:04,086 --> 00:25:06,213 However, the phone company calling your wife... 392 00:25:06,380 --> 00:25:08,590 ...and telling her about our intel gathering... 393 00:25:08,757 --> 00:25:10,926 Well, my face is red on that one. 394 00:25:11,093 --> 00:25:12,636 Shouldn't happen. 395 00:25:13,095 --> 00:25:16,849 - Did you bring the expense reports? - Yeah. Yeah. 396 00:25:17,808 --> 00:25:22,062 Okay, this is Mexico City, Paris, Hong Kong, Tokyo. 397 00:25:22,229 --> 00:25:25,774 There was a meeting of the Corn Refiners Association in Florida last week. 398 00:25:25,941 --> 00:25:27,443 Mick and Terry went to that one. 399 00:25:27,609 --> 00:25:30,821 They were doing the regular meeting during the day, and at night... 400 00:25:30,988 --> 00:25:34,700 ...they'd get together with our competitors and work out how to fix the prices. 401 00:25:34,867 --> 00:25:37,911 Watch. In about six months, the price of a liter of soda pop... 402 00:25:38,078 --> 00:25:39,955 ...is gonna be about 5 cents more. 403 00:25:40,122 --> 00:25:41,749 Well, when's the next meeting? 404 00:25:41,915 --> 00:25:45,127 MARK: January. Somewhere in Asia. 405 00:25:45,294 --> 00:25:49,131 Mark, I gotta ask you. Why are you doing this? 406 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:52,760 We know you lied about the phone line, and you're afraid of that. 407 00:25:52,926 --> 00:25:58,140 But now you're telling us all this other stuff out of the blue. Got to ask you why. 408 00:25:59,516 --> 00:26:02,352 Well, because things are going on I don't approve of. 409 00:26:02,853 --> 00:26:05,856 Now, I'm a biochemist. I'm a technical guy. 410 00:26:06,023 --> 00:26:07,983 And they pull me into the business side... 411 00:26:08,150 --> 00:26:11,820 ...and suddenly I find out all these things are going on that are illegal. 412 00:26:11,987 --> 00:26:15,157 If I want to grow with ADM, I gotta learn the business side. 413 00:26:15,324 --> 00:26:18,118 And so suddenly, I'm lying. They're making me lie to people. 414 00:26:18,285 --> 00:26:19,578 I lie to you. 415 00:26:19,745 --> 00:26:21,455 I mean, I feel real bad about that. 416 00:26:22,122 --> 00:26:25,584 You look at yourself as wearing a white hat and they're wearing black hats? 417 00:26:25,751 --> 00:26:27,503 Absolutely. Something like that. 418 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,714 When I was a kid, my folks died in an automobile accident. 419 00:26:30,881 --> 00:26:34,843 I was maybe 6 years old and a wealthy man from Ohio adopted me. 420 00:26:35,052 --> 00:26:38,055 Guy owned amusement parks. He did very well for himself. 421 00:26:38,555 --> 00:26:42,684 I caught a big break there, real big break. I went to a good school and all. 422 00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:47,272 Now I adopted two kids of my own. I'm trying to do the right thing here. 423 00:26:48,398 --> 00:26:49,942 Well, Mark... 424 00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:53,654 ...do you think you'd be willing to go a few steps further in helping us? 425 00:26:55,239 --> 00:26:56,573 What does that mean? 426 00:26:56,740 --> 00:26:58,408 SHEPARD: Would you... 427 00:26:59,243 --> 00:27:00,869 ...be willing to wear a wire? 428 00:27:01,578 --> 00:27:04,748 We don't have any other sources at this time. We... 429 00:27:05,415 --> 00:27:06,583 We need your help. 430 00:27:06,875 --> 00:27:10,712 PAISLEY: We'll be there with you all the way. It won't be easy. 431 00:27:10,879 --> 00:27:14,174 I'll use my beeper to signal you when it's time to set up a meeting. 432 00:27:14,341 --> 00:27:15,676 When you hear this-- 433 00:27:16,218 --> 00:27:17,219 You know. Right? 434 00:27:17,386 --> 00:27:18,428 [PAGER BEEPING] 435 00:27:18,595 --> 00:27:20,097 --You call me. 436 00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:24,351 SHEPARD: He's watched closely at work... 437 00:27:24,518 --> 00:27:28,230 ...and there's reason to believe that ADM has bugged his home. 438 00:27:28,522 --> 00:27:33,193 He's under a great deal of pressure. I mean, you gotta feel for the guy. 439 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,737 He tells us the truth one day... 440 00:27:35,904 --> 00:27:39,408 ...and wakes up the next with two lives instead of one. 441 00:27:39,575 --> 00:27:43,412 Well, the good news is he decided to wake up and tell the truth. 442 00:27:45,956 --> 00:27:48,167 MARK: There are these butterflies in Central America. 443 00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:51,420 They're blue and orange and yellow and have poison in their wings. 444 00:27:51,587 --> 00:27:53,714 Just enough poison to stop a bird heart. 445 00:27:53,881 --> 00:27:56,842 But the birds know this somehow, so they don't eat them. 446 00:27:57,009 --> 00:27:59,636 But there are other ones, butterflies... 447 00:27:59,803 --> 00:28:03,765 ...they're orange, blue and yellow too, but no poison wings. 448 00:28:03,932 --> 00:28:07,436 They're just flying around, looking dangerous, getting by on their looks. 449 00:28:07,936 --> 00:28:09,146 Hey, Mark. 450 00:28:09,646 --> 00:28:11,940 - Hi, Brian. - Ready to make the call? 451 00:28:19,198 --> 00:28:22,284 BOY: Hey, wait up, dipshit. - We're gonna do it here? 452 00:28:25,787 --> 00:28:29,625 We can't get a room. There's problems with that. 453 00:28:31,585 --> 00:28:33,086 Um... 454 00:28:34,129 --> 00:28:37,883 I don't know, it just kind of seems, you know, awkward. 455 00:28:38,050 --> 00:28:40,302 It's the best I can do right now. 456 00:28:42,429 --> 00:28:43,972 0K8)'- 457 00:28:44,514 --> 00:28:46,099 Just... 458 00:28:47,851 --> 00:28:51,104 Hold the microphone against the receiver and I'll hold the recorder. 459 00:28:51,271 --> 00:28:52,314 MARK: O09... 460 00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:55,817 ...454... 461 00:28:56,318 --> 00:28:58,987 ...58822. 462 00:28:59,154 --> 00:29:00,405 Thank you. 463 00:29:02,366 --> 00:29:06,161 - No, no, put it on the receiver. - Mr. Yamamoto, please. 464 00:29:06,328 --> 00:29:08,038 The receiver. 465 00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:11,667 - I have it on the receiver. - On the receiver, where you hear. 466 00:29:14,711 --> 00:29:16,421 I'm on hold. 467 00:29:19,216 --> 00:29:23,011 Hello, Mr. Yamamoto. It is Mark Whitacre. 468 00:29:23,553 --> 00:29:25,555 Hi, sir. How are you? 469 00:29:27,182 --> 00:29:30,310 No, I'm doing a lot of traveling this week, a lot of traveling. 470 00:29:30,852 --> 00:29:32,604 How are sales? 471 00:29:33,522 --> 00:29:36,817 Certainly we need to, in terms of our-- 472 00:29:36,984 --> 00:29:38,443 In terms of our big customers... 473 00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:41,863 ...we definitely need to be thinking about a good price, yes? 474 00:29:42,030 --> 00:29:45,367 MARK: It's better to maintain a price of $2.50 in other countries... 475 00:29:45,534 --> 00:29:50,038 ...and $1.05 for the United States, and just like that, there it is: price fixing. 476 00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:53,875 SHEPARD: Well, this is great, Mark. This verifies everything you've been saying. 477 00:29:54,042 --> 00:29:55,419 Yeah. 478 00:29:55,585 --> 00:29:58,213 - Thank you. Thank you so much. - Yeah. Absolutely. 479 00:29:59,548 --> 00:30:02,884 MARK: I like an indoor pool. Year-round usage. 480 00:30:03,093 --> 00:30:06,722 I like the steam off it in the winter. Very mysterious, that steam. 481 00:30:06,888 --> 00:30:08,390 Well, Marty... 482 00:30:10,017 --> 00:30:12,936 ...when you started work at ADM, how much money did you want? 483 00:30:13,228 --> 00:30:14,521 I wanted 5O grand. 484 00:30:15,564 --> 00:30:19,818 But I went and told Terry, "We can't get this guy for less than 75." 485 00:30:19,985 --> 00:30:22,446 - Yeah. - I got it for you. You were the first I hired. 486 00:30:22,612 --> 00:30:25,741 You've always been really generous with me. And I appreciate it. 487 00:30:25,907 --> 00:30:27,951 Here's what I want you to do. 488 00:30:28,618 --> 00:30:30,871 I want you to write down a name. 489 00:30:32,289 --> 00:30:35,917 Okay. What's the name? 490 00:30:37,294 --> 00:30:39,755 Nordkron Chemie. 491 00:30:40,464 --> 00:30:44,968 What is that, like, a Nigerian name or something? 492 00:30:45,135 --> 00:30:48,472 I like my hands. I think they're probably my favorite part of my body. 493 00:30:48,638 --> 00:30:51,516 I think that can be used to my advantage in social situations. 494 00:30:51,683 --> 00:30:55,270 If I can get people focused on my hands, I can get a good result in a meeting. 495 00:30:55,437 --> 00:30:57,105 Eye contact is real important too. 496 00:30:57,272 --> 00:30:59,441 Hey, I'm gonna check messages. 497 00:31:02,110 --> 00:31:04,112 [CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY] 498 00:31:08,283 --> 00:31:10,744 AUTOMATED MALE VOICE: You have one message. 499 00:31:11,453 --> 00:31:13,455 [PAGER BEEPING OVER PHONE] 500 00:31:14,748 --> 00:31:16,750 My phone died. I was on with the plant. 501 00:31:16,917 --> 00:31:19,086 Is there a payphone, a public but kind of...? 502 00:31:19,252 --> 00:31:20,420 - Across the lobby. - Right. 503 00:31:20,587 --> 00:31:23,340 - Mark, this is important bioproduct stuff. - I know. 504 00:31:23,507 --> 00:31:24,966 Hi, Dave. How's Holly doing? 505 00:31:25,133 --> 00:31:26,301 DAVE: She's good. - Great. 506 00:31:26,468 --> 00:31:27,677 It's the plant. 507 00:31:27,844 --> 00:31:30,347 SHEPARD [OVER PHONE]: FBI. - Brian, it's Mark. 508 00:31:30,514 --> 00:31:33,183 I told you, I'm out of town on business this week. 509 00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:35,727 The case is getting some attention from the Bureau. 510 00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:37,646 There's another agent working with me. 511 00:31:37,813 --> 00:31:39,689 MARK: I can't talk right now. I have a meeting. 512 00:31:39,856 --> 00:31:42,150 I have people waiting for me. Bye. 513 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,986 I'm here, Dave. 514 00:31:45,695 --> 00:31:49,032 Being able to do two things at once is a big part of success. 515 00:31:49,199 --> 00:31:51,576 I try and do abdominal exercises-- Isometrics. 516 00:31:51,743 --> 00:31:53,245 --even when I'm at a meeting. 517 00:31:53,412 --> 00:31:55,288 Tensing. Holding. 518 00:31:55,455 --> 00:31:56,540 Then releasing. 519 00:31:56,832 --> 00:31:59,709 I'll floss in the shower while the conditioner is in my hair... 520 00:31:59,876 --> 00:32:01,878 ...when you're just supposed to leave it in. 521 00:32:02,045 --> 00:32:05,132 Those things can really add up to a significant time savings. 522 00:32:05,298 --> 00:32:06,716 Hey, Kirk. 523 00:32:07,342 --> 00:32:08,635 I'll be heading to Europe... 524 00:32:08,802 --> 00:32:12,639 ...and I thought I could just hand deliver that check for the ABP deal in person. 525 00:32:12,806 --> 00:32:14,349 Remind me. ABP deal? 526 00:32:14,558 --> 00:32:17,686 It's a threonine microbe. They're making substantial improvements. 527 00:32:17,853 --> 00:32:20,188 We want to get into the market. That's the invoice. 528 00:32:20,355 --> 00:32:21,481 We'll just overnight it. 529 00:32:21,648 --> 00:32:24,818 I'm gonna see this Thorstensson guy, so I'll just hand it to him. 530 00:32:29,114 --> 00:32:31,575 The metric system never panned out. We had rulers... 531 00:32:31,741 --> 00:32:34,202 ...with inches on one edge, centimeters on the other. 532 00:32:34,369 --> 00:32:38,039 I pronounced it "centimeters" instead of "centimeters" and nobody corrected me. 533 00:32:38,206 --> 00:32:41,418 They let me walk around stupid. I'm not upset we never crossed over... 534 00:32:41,585 --> 00:32:43,795 ...though it's helpful to know the conversions. 535 00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:46,173 The liter bottle is the thing that caught on... 536 00:32:46,339 --> 00:32:49,384 ...because it's a nicer word, "liter" than "quart." 537 00:32:49,551 --> 00:32:50,844 Quart. 538 00:32:51,011 --> 00:32:52,262 Quart. 539 00:32:52,929 --> 00:32:54,681 MARTY: Mark, it's Marty calling again. 540 00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:56,683 [PHONE BEEPS] 541 00:32:56,850 --> 00:32:58,226 AUTOMATED VOICE: Message deleted. 542 00:32:58,393 --> 00:32:59,769 [PAGER BEEPING OVER PHONE] 543 00:32:59,936 --> 00:33:01,313 [PHONE BEEPS] 544 00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:06,401 [RINGS] 545 00:33:10,071 --> 00:33:11,698 FBI, Agent Shepard. 546 00:33:11,865 --> 00:33:13,617 Brian, it's Mark. 547 00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:16,244 Look, it's been hard for me to return a page... 548 00:33:16,411 --> 00:33:18,830 ...as I am out of the country at the moment. 549 00:33:19,331 --> 00:33:22,751 Listen, we need to know if you've had any further contact with Nakawara. 550 00:33:22,918 --> 00:33:26,087 I told you already that the guy stopped calling. 551 00:33:26,254 --> 00:33:30,592 Well, what about the price fixing? Have you been able to make any more tapes? 552 00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:33,720 I think you guys hanging around has everybody scared straight. 553 00:33:33,887 --> 00:33:36,223 The word is we're doing everything by the book now. 554 00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:38,934 Mick said it's over. No more price fixing. 555 00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:42,979 What? When did this happen, this conversation? 556 00:33:43,146 --> 00:33:48,068 Everything has changed. I got lysine up and running. The virus is gone. 557 00:33:48,235 --> 00:33:51,363 Mick brought me into his office, he sat me down. 558 00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:54,783 He said, "Whitacre, from now on we're doing things your way." 559 00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:56,618 Mark. 560 00:33:56,785 --> 00:34:00,288 Look, Mark, the FBI knows about the crimes. 561 00:34:00,455 --> 00:34:02,958 We're gonna investigate either way. 562 00:34:03,124 --> 00:34:04,960 Either way? What does "either way" mean? 563 00:34:05,126 --> 00:34:07,045 We really need to get together. 564 00:34:07,212 --> 00:34:10,632 It is a different approach there now. I'm telling you, it's all-- 565 00:34:10,799 --> 00:34:13,093 Everything's changed. 566 00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:16,763 My plane is boarding. I gotta go. I gotta go. 567 00:34:17,556 --> 00:34:18,974 Ah! 568 00:34:28,567 --> 00:34:31,319 - Everything okay? - Yeah, fine. 569 00:34:31,486 --> 00:34:32,821 Kids. 570 00:34:33,029 --> 00:34:36,491 [SPEAKING IN GERMAN] 571 00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:39,411 - Where were we? - We were discussing bonuses. 572 00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:42,497 And we should be discussing Ferraris. 573 00:34:42,998 --> 00:34:44,791 [SPEAKING IN GERMAN] 574 00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:49,170 You have Fu/lfederha/tefiinte all over your shirt. 575 00:34:49,838 --> 00:34:51,631 Ow. 576 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,800 One of the Japanese guys told me a story. 577 00:34:53,967 --> 00:34:55,802 This lysine salesman is in a meeting... 578 00:34:55,969 --> 00:34:58,597 ...with someone from ConAgra or some other company. 579 00:34:58,763 --> 00:35:01,141 And the client leans forward and says: 580 00:35:01,308 --> 00:35:05,312 "I have the same tie as you, only the pattern is reversed." 581 00:35:05,729 --> 00:35:08,940 And then he drops dead, face down on the table. 582 00:35:09,107 --> 00:35:11,901 Alive and then dead. 583 00:35:12,068 --> 00:35:13,361 Brain aneurysm. 584 00:35:14,195 --> 00:35:17,657 Maybe everyone has a sentence like that, a little time bomb. 585 00:35:17,824 --> 00:35:21,578 "I have the same tie as you, only the pattern's reversed." 586 00:35:21,745 --> 00:35:25,790 Dead. The last thing they'll ever say. Something like... 587 00:35:25,957 --> 00:35:29,210 High-fructose corn syrup. There it is again. 588 00:35:29,377 --> 00:35:32,464 SHEPARD: He said that Andreas called him into a marketing meeting. 589 00:35:32,631 --> 00:35:34,382 He might be late. 590 00:35:34,841 --> 00:35:37,969 If he doesn't show, the government ought to charge him for the room. 591 00:35:38,553 --> 00:35:40,722 [PHONE RINGS] 592 00:35:40,889 --> 00:35:43,016 And here it comes. 593 00:35:47,479 --> 00:35:48,730 Shepard. 594 00:35:48,897 --> 00:35:52,400 MARK: I can't come to the hotel tonight. I'm still at work. 595 00:35:52,567 --> 00:35:54,152 SHEPARD: Mark, this is the third time. 596 00:35:54,319 --> 00:35:56,821 MARK: I gotta go. I have work to do. 597 00:35:57,322 --> 00:36:01,660 - Mark, you can't keep canceling. - Look, I can't live two lives. 598 00:36:01,826 --> 00:36:05,413 They just offered me a $100,000 raise, okay? 599 00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:07,999 I'm not gonna lose my job because of you guys. 600 00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:10,919 I have a family. I'm building stables across the road. 601 00:36:11,086 --> 00:36:15,256 - But you told us-- - The price fixing is over. It's over. 602 00:36:15,423 --> 00:36:18,635 Hey, Mick. I'm getting off the phone now. 603 00:36:18,802 --> 00:36:20,762 Mark, listen to me. 604 00:36:20,929 --> 00:36:24,808 The only logical thing for you to do is cooperate. 605 00:36:25,433 --> 00:36:26,559 What happens if I don't? 606 00:36:26,726 --> 00:36:30,855 Then somebody else will, and you'll end up being a defendant. 607 00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:34,693 The tapes don't say anything, because it's over. Mick said. 608 00:36:34,859 --> 00:36:36,444 We have a whole new policy. 609 00:36:36,611 --> 00:36:41,991 Fine, if that's what he said. Then I want to hear the tape. We need tapes, Mark. 610 00:36:43,368 --> 00:36:45,620 Okay, I never made any tapes. 611 00:36:45,787 --> 00:36:49,124 I never made any because there's not gonna be anything on the tapes. 612 00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:51,292 It's over, and they'd just be stupid tapes. 613 00:36:51,459 --> 00:36:52,919 - Mark, come on. - Look, how...? 614 00:36:53,086 --> 00:36:55,797 You tell me how I can prove it to you, and I will. 615 00:37:16,192 --> 00:37:18,486 [INAUDIBLE DIALOGUE] 616 00:37:39,299 --> 00:37:42,260 Mick Andreas and his dad would never lie for me. 617 00:37:42,427 --> 00:37:44,763 They say we're in it together. What a joke. 618 00:37:44,929 --> 00:37:47,849 Team-building off site meetings at some lake in Wisconsin. 619 00:37:48,016 --> 00:37:50,560 I can't protect these guys if they're breaking the law. 620 00:37:50,727 --> 00:37:53,438 Hey, I tried. Anybody could see the choices I had. 621 00:37:53,605 --> 00:37:56,232 I did my best for ADM. You don't see them here in the chair. 622 00:37:56,399 --> 00:37:58,067 [KNOCK ON DOOR] 623 00:37:58,526 --> 00:38:00,695 Hey, how'd I do? 624 00:38:00,862 --> 00:38:02,697 SHEPARD: Mark, we have some problems. 625 00:38:02,864 --> 00:38:07,410 Wait a minute. I was looking at the thing. The needle didn't even move. 626 00:38:07,577 --> 00:38:10,872 Mark, you don't know how to read a polygraph. 627 00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:13,708 Well, first of all, they're not 100 percent accurate. 628 00:38:13,875 --> 00:38:16,044 Mark, you splattered the walls with ink. 629 00:38:16,544 --> 00:38:20,340 Come on. Extortionists just don't leave their name and number, then go away. 630 00:38:20,507 --> 00:38:21,883 SHEPARD: I know it's tough... 631 00:38:22,342 --> 00:38:25,804 ...keeping it all bottled up inside, keeping it a secret. 632 00:38:26,346 --> 00:38:30,058 But there's only one good choice for you. That's all there's ever been. 633 00:38:30,725 --> 00:38:33,061 There's something you're not telling us... 634 00:38:33,228 --> 00:38:39,067 ...but the only way to protect yourself is to be completely honest. 635 00:38:46,908 --> 00:38:48,535 MARK: Okay. 636 00:38:49,744 --> 00:38:51,246 0K8)'- 637 00:38:53,623 --> 00:38:54,666 [SIGHS] 638 00:38:54,833 --> 00:38:56,751 You realize... 639 00:38:58,461 --> 00:39:01,339 ...that this can all be used against you in a court of law. 640 00:39:01,506 --> 00:39:04,592 I'll have to write it all up, and you'll have to sign it. 641 00:39:04,759 --> 00:39:06,928 We're going to find out what's going on, Mark. 642 00:39:07,804 --> 00:39:10,723 You're not leaving this room until you tell us what's going on. 643 00:39:10,890 --> 00:39:13,268 SHEPARD: So before you answer any more questions... 644 00:39:13,434 --> 00:39:15,520 ...I want you to think about Ginger... 645 00:39:15,687 --> 00:39:18,106 ...and your family, and your career. 646 00:39:20,942 --> 00:39:23,444 HERN DON: What happened with Nakawara? 647 00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:25,613 Is there a mole? 648 00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:34,289 Well, yeah, I think there has definitely been a mole, before, at ADM. 649 00:39:41,796 --> 00:39:43,464 - I made it up. - Jesus, Mark. 650 00:39:43,631 --> 00:39:44,883 MARK: I had to. 651 00:39:45,049 --> 00:39:48,261 Look, we've had problems with viruses at the plant... 652 00:39:48,428 --> 00:39:50,805 ...and we're way behind our projections. 653 00:39:50,972 --> 00:39:54,601 Dwayne is thinking about shutting us down and everybody's looking to me. 654 00:39:54,767 --> 00:39:57,812 It's all "Blame it on Whitacre." That's how it is over there. 655 00:39:57,979 --> 00:40:00,231 We're talking about my job here. 656 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:04,986 I came all the way over from Europe, relocated my family. They made me a VP. 657 00:40:05,528 --> 00:40:09,157 Uh-- Uh-- What about the price fixing? It isn't over, is it? 658 00:40:09,324 --> 00:40:11,159 I mean, there's no new attitude, right? 659 00:40:11,326 --> 00:40:15,163 It's been going on as recently as three weeks ago. Nothing's changed. 660 00:40:15,330 --> 00:40:18,583 It's not just lysine. It's citric, it's gluconate... 661 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:21,878 A guy left the company because he wouldn't do it. He was forced out. 662 00:40:22,045 --> 00:40:24,130 The gluconate guy, he's out of a job. 663 00:40:24,297 --> 00:40:27,884 I met with the guys from Ajinomoto just last month in Chicago. 664 00:40:28,051 --> 00:40:32,347 The whole point was to actually set volume levels. 665 00:40:32,513 --> 00:40:35,391 You set the volume levels, determine what the market is... 666 00:40:35,558 --> 00:40:39,562 ...and then you figure out workable prices. We got another meeting next month. 667 00:40:41,022 --> 00:40:43,775 If there's anything else you want to add, now is the time. 668 00:40:43,942 --> 00:40:45,902 What else is there? 669 00:40:56,037 --> 00:40:59,540 Seven-thirty a.m., March 17th... 670 00:40:59,707 --> 00:41:01,376 ...1993. 671 00:41:01,584 --> 00:41:06,881 I have parked the car. I am approaching the entrance to the office. 672 00:41:08,383 --> 00:41:10,385 Entrance breached. 673 00:41:10,885 --> 00:41:15,056 Terrance Wilson. President of our corn businesses. 674 00:41:15,348 --> 00:41:18,476 Did our friend from Japan call last night? 675 00:41:18,643 --> 00:41:20,228 No, he wasn't in. 676 00:41:20,395 --> 00:41:23,898 MARK: Well, I spoke with Mimoto and he is pissed. 677 00:41:24,065 --> 00:41:26,567 He says there will be no peace in lysine... 678 00:41:26,734 --> 00:41:29,821 ...until we bring production down to the levels we promised. 679 00:41:29,988 --> 00:41:34,534 Well, in '92, we did exactly what we told him we would do in terms of volume. 680 00:41:34,701 --> 00:41:37,453 Exactly. Now, no promise. 681 00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:39,080 He says he wants to talk to you. 682 00:41:39,247 --> 00:41:44,544 Yeah? Well, I'll be right there saying, "Listen here, you mousy motherfucker." 683 00:41:47,422 --> 00:41:51,884 That was Terry Wilson talking about setting volume... 684 00:41:52,051 --> 00:41:55,763 ...and price levels with our Japanese competitor... 685 00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:58,349 ...Ajinomoto Corporation. 686 00:41:59,017 --> 00:42:01,728 By the way, there was no discussion with Mimoto last night. 687 00:42:01,894 --> 00:42:04,355 I did that for illustration purposes only. 688 00:42:04,522 --> 00:42:06,816 I repeat, no discussion with Mimoto. 689 00:42:06,983 --> 00:42:10,903 LIZ: Morning, Mark. - Good morning, Liz Taylor, secretary. 690 00:42:20,621 --> 00:42:21,622 [SPEAKS IN JAPAN ESE] 691 00:42:21,789 --> 00:42:23,791 - Please, come in. - Hello. Good morning. 692 00:42:23,958 --> 00:42:27,462 Good morning. Hello. Good morning. Good morning. 693 00:42:28,129 --> 00:42:30,423 Before we even deal with Latin America... 694 00:42:30,590 --> 00:42:34,469 ...we have to agree that we are gonna swap numbers. 695 00:42:34,635 --> 00:42:36,429 It's the only way this is gonna work. 696 00:42:36,596 --> 00:42:41,476 Keep everybody on target. It's possible to do. Got to be very careful. 697 00:42:41,934 --> 00:42:44,312 Need to check your phones. 698 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,817 Excuse me, I need a comfort break. Pardon me. 699 00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:00,620 Side two, tape one. 700 00:43:00,787 --> 00:43:03,664 Side two, tape one. 701 00:43:04,499 --> 00:43:07,418 I've got well over two million frequent flyer miles. 702 00:43:07,585 --> 00:43:09,504 I'm pretty much platinum across the board. 703 00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:12,131 I get a letter from the CEO every year, thanking me. 704 00:43:12,298 --> 00:43:14,550 It's a form letter. It looks like he's signing it. 705 00:43:14,717 --> 00:43:18,262 They probably walk in and he signs like a hundred while he's on the phone. 706 00:43:20,848 --> 00:43:24,936 Oh, it went great. I think we're gonna be able to keep it at a buck and a quarter. 707 00:43:25,103 --> 00:43:26,521 [SNEEZES] 708 00:43:27,855 --> 00:43:32,151 Now what happens? Something you breathe in on an airplane, some bacteria... 709 00:43:32,318 --> 00:43:34,570 ...and now it's in his hands, the cup, the phone. 710 00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:37,949 Probably got it from his kids and now I'll spend the weekend with it. 711 00:43:38,116 --> 00:43:41,494 I'll miss a few days or Alexander will run a fever and who pays for that? 712 00:43:41,661 --> 00:43:44,705 Where does the FBI weigh in on that as a cooperating witness? 713 00:43:44,872 --> 00:43:47,500 What does it say about exposure to airborne contaminants? 714 00:43:47,667 --> 00:43:51,629 Tape seven, side two. Chicago O'Hare. 715 00:43:51,796 --> 00:43:55,383 Once again, Terry Wilson representing ADM. 716 00:43:55,550 --> 00:44:00,721 Representing Eurolysine, Alain Crouy and Philippe Rollier. 717 00:44:00,888 --> 00:44:02,890 That's a French company. 718 00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:12,900 That's a big break right there. Absolutely. 719 00:44:13,067 --> 00:44:15,403 There's no choices to be made, no debate. 720 00:44:15,570 --> 00:44:17,738 You're an ant, you just eat it. 721 00:44:17,905 --> 00:44:19,615 WILSON: --part of the world where it works... 722 00:44:19,782 --> 00:44:22,076 ...and the rest of the world where it doesn't. 723 00:44:22,243 --> 00:44:23,327 It will not last. 724 00:44:23,494 --> 00:44:26,747 - Terry, Alain, Philippe. - Hi. 725 00:44:26,914 --> 00:44:29,750 We obviously would play the game. 726 00:44:29,917 --> 00:44:32,920 - But the Koreans and the Japanese... - They cheat. 727 00:44:33,921 --> 00:44:35,089 Then it won't work. 728 00:44:36,174 --> 00:44:38,843 Well, you make it work in the other divisions. Tell them. 729 00:44:40,219 --> 00:44:43,264 Terry doesn't like me very much. He's got blotchy skin. 730 00:44:43,431 --> 00:44:45,349 What causes that blotchiness? 731 00:44:45,516 --> 00:44:47,018 It must mean something medical. 732 00:44:47,185 --> 00:44:51,272 He'll have a stroke and someone will say, "He was blotchy. It happens." 733 00:44:51,731 --> 00:44:55,902 If prices went up in Europe, it's because we talked in Mexico first. 734 00:44:56,319 --> 00:44:59,363 That's right. You made it happen. 735 00:44:59,780 --> 00:45:01,741 It was our pleasure. 736 00:45:03,409 --> 00:45:06,120 Mark, these are just the kind of tapes we need. 737 00:45:06,287 --> 00:45:11,375 And we're getting our marching orders from Andreas. See? Goes right to the top. 738 00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:13,878 We need to improve the quality of these recordings. 739 00:45:19,884 --> 00:45:21,510 [HORN HONKS] 740 00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:25,431 Hey, Rusty. 741 00:45:26,849 --> 00:45:28,142 Take a look at something. 742 00:45:29,644 --> 00:45:31,270 [SIGHS] 743 00:45:32,772 --> 00:45:34,106 What do you think? 744 00:45:34,273 --> 00:45:36,484 That's a nice briefcase. 745 00:45:36,651 --> 00:45:38,152 But wait. 746 00:45:39,654 --> 00:45:40,988 There's more. 747 00:45:44,492 --> 00:45:46,035 Thatโ€œ 748 00:45:46,661 --> 00:45:48,329 ...is a Nagra SN. 749 00:45:48,871 --> 00:45:51,666 Had the Bureau custom-make it for me. 750 00:45:51,832 --> 00:45:56,003 Mark Whitacre, secret agent 0014. 751 00:45:56,671 --> 00:45:58,839 Why 0014? 752 00:45:59,006 --> 00:46:01,509 Because I'm twice as smart as 007. 753 00:46:05,012 --> 00:46:06,472 Ah. Thank you again. 754 00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:08,099 [CHUCKLES] 755 00:46:10,893 --> 00:46:12,979 What happened to that girl who worked for us? 756 00:46:13,145 --> 00:46:15,731 Didn't she move to California? What was her name? Tina? 757 00:46:15,898 --> 00:46:18,442 Oh, Tina. Yeah, she's getting married. 758 00:46:18,734 --> 00:46:20,861 Ugh. My Tina's getting married? 759 00:46:21,028 --> 00:46:23,614 She's getting married two or three weeks from now. 760 00:46:23,781 --> 00:46:25,533 Oh-ho-ho-ho. 761 00:46:26,033 --> 00:46:28,327 Well, that won't last long. She's a bit of a dodo-head. 762 00:46:28,494 --> 00:46:30,037 RAUGHS] 763 00:46:30,204 --> 00:46:31,205 She'll be back. 764 00:46:31,372 --> 00:46:35,209 I just hope she doesn't get pregnant and fuck up that body. 765 00:46:35,376 --> 00:46:38,379 She had a nice body. It'll ruin her tits. 766 00:46:38,546 --> 00:46:43,009 When polar bears hunt, they crouch down by a hole in the ice and wait for a seal. 767 00:46:43,175 --> 00:46:46,220 They keep one paw over their nose so that they blend in... 768 00:46:46,387 --> 00:46:48,139 ...because they've got black noses. 769 00:46:48,306 --> 00:46:50,766 They'd blend in perfectly if not for the nose. 770 00:46:50,975 --> 00:46:54,812 So the question is, how do they know their noses are black? 771 00:46:55,021 --> 00:46:56,856 From looking at other polar bears? 772 00:46:57,023 --> 00:47:01,861 Do they see their reflections in the water, and think, "I'd be invisible if not for that." 773 00:47:02,111 --> 00:47:04,196 That seems like a lot of thinking for a bear. 774 00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:10,161 ANDREAS: Remember to pat them down for wires before the meeting. 775 00:47:10,328 --> 00:47:11,579 MARK: What? ANDREAS: New policy. 776 00:47:11,746 --> 00:47:13,539 Whenever we meet with the Japanese. 777 00:47:13,706 --> 00:47:16,542 MARK: You're kidding, right? I didn't get a memo. 778 00:47:16,709 --> 00:47:19,837 - I didn't get any kind of memo on that. - He's kidding. Relax, Mark. 779 00:47:20,004 --> 00:47:22,381 They don't have the balls to mess with ADM. 780 00:47:22,548 --> 00:47:25,593 When it's over, the board of directors at ADM is gonna understand. 781 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,347 They're gonna see the position I was in. I acted in everyone's best interest. 782 00:47:29,513 --> 00:47:31,515 That's the only conclusion they can reach. 783 00:47:31,682 --> 00:47:33,934 I'm the youngest division president they've had. 784 00:47:34,101 --> 00:47:36,854 I speak a number of languages fluently. 785 00:47:43,652 --> 00:47:45,571 [MEN CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY OVER MONITOR] 786 00:47:49,283 --> 00:47:52,203 Would you like some coffee or fruits? 787 00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:56,540 SHEPARD: No. 788 00:47:57,249 --> 00:47:58,584 No. 789 00:47:58,751 --> 00:48:00,419 Mark, no. 790 00:48:00,586 --> 00:48:03,798 - No. - I told him the camera was in the lamp. 791 00:48:07,134 --> 00:48:11,972 We already spend more than one year to get better market situation in lysine. 792 00:48:12,139 --> 00:48:14,141 We talked a little bit about it in Paris... 793 00:48:14,308 --> 00:48:18,229 ...but we need to come to an understanding on volume. 794 00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:20,815 - We have public shareholders. - Can you-J? 795 00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:22,650 You need to widen out a little. 796 00:48:22,817 --> 00:48:25,111 We need to show them working together. 797 00:48:26,153 --> 00:48:27,446 ANDREAS: Now the question is: 798 00:48:27,613 --> 00:48:30,699 If the market grows, who gets it? 799 00:48:32,076 --> 00:48:37,748 If Kyowa Hakko, Miwon and Cheil Corporation each get 2000 tons... 800 00:48:37,915 --> 00:48:39,500 ...we can divide up the rest. 801 00:48:39,667 --> 00:48:40,709 [WHIRRING] 802 00:48:40,876 --> 00:48:42,795 If we're gonna have any stability at all. 803 00:48:43,754 --> 00:48:46,841 IKEDA: We need-- We need some specific number. 804 00:48:47,007 --> 00:48:50,636 Well, what would you be willing to accept? Isn't that really the question? 805 00:48:50,803 --> 00:48:53,681 YAMADA: ADM has already eaten all the growth. 806 00:48:53,848 --> 00:48:56,183 ANDREAS: We have a lot more capacity that we're not using. 807 00:48:56,350 --> 00:49:00,146 We could be growing 20,000 tons. Isn't that right, Mark? 808 00:49:01,021 --> 00:49:02,898 HERNDON: I'm going in. We gotta shut this down. 809 00:49:03,065 --> 00:49:04,233 SHEPARD: No, wait. Hold on. 810 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,318 - I need your input. SHEPARD: I think he's got it. 811 00:49:06,485 --> 00:49:10,030 MED/X. ADM will be allocated its recent production, plus... 812 00:49:10,197 --> 00:49:11,449 SHEPARD: They talk about Paris. 813 00:49:11,615 --> 00:49:13,159 ROBIN: I can't understand. SHEPARD: The meeting. 814 00:49:13,325 --> 00:49:14,869 ANDREAS: We have a big board of directors. 815 00:49:15,035 --> 00:49:18,247 SHEPARD: They have a big board of directors. And shareholders. 816 00:49:18,414 --> 00:49:21,333 And they're all suffering together. 817 00:49:21,500 --> 00:49:25,629 Well, where's the agreement? I mean, this is just a discussion. 818 00:49:25,796 --> 00:49:28,340 If there isn't an agreement, what are they doing there? 819 00:49:28,507 --> 00:49:32,720 You're getting bogged down with the words. Just look at the actions. 820 00:49:32,887 --> 00:49:36,807 Look what happens right here. Okay? 821 00:49:36,974 --> 00:49:38,058 HERN DON: See what he's doing? 822 00:49:38,225 --> 00:49:42,021 ROBIN: Yeah, I've looked and I just see a chart with a bunch of words. 823 00:49:42,188 --> 00:49:46,233 I don't even see any numbers on that. I mean, I can't pinpoint an agreement. 824 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,777 What more do you want? The guy is standing there... 825 00:49:48,944 --> 00:49:51,030 ...dividing up the market, plain as day. 826 00:49:51,197 --> 00:49:52,907 It could just be a proposal. 827 00:49:53,073 --> 00:49:56,827 All the other companies weren't there. No one used the word "agreement." 828 00:49:56,994 --> 00:50:01,499 I'm telling you. From the perspective of the Justice Department, it is not enough. 829 00:50:01,749 --> 00:50:05,252 We're having another meeting to work out some of the issues in lysine. 830 00:50:05,419 --> 00:50:08,923 We have to divide up the volumes and set prices for some of the markets. 831 00:50:09,089 --> 00:50:10,716 Europe again? 832 00:50:11,133 --> 00:50:12,176 Europe is out. 833 00:50:12,343 --> 00:50:16,764 There is a price-fixing investigation in the cement manufacturing business there. 834 00:50:16,931 --> 00:50:19,391 It's got everybody spooked, so we're not going there. 835 00:50:19,558 --> 00:50:22,019 We can't videotape in Japan. That's not gonna help us. 836 00:50:22,186 --> 00:50:23,687 Hawaii. 837 00:50:24,897 --> 00:50:27,525 - Hawaii? - Hawaii. 838 00:50:36,158 --> 00:50:37,743 Oh! 839 00:50:55,553 --> 00:50:57,555 [INAUDIBLE DIALOGUE] 840 00:51:08,482 --> 00:51:11,485 MARK [OVER MONITOR]: Okay. So everybody just. ... 841 00:51:11,652 --> 00:51:14,488 WILSON: Goddamn it, Mark. Look at the size of this. That's bullshit. 842 00:51:14,655 --> 00:51:15,656 MARK: Yeah. 843 00:51:15,823 --> 00:51:17,408 WILSON: Can you call and get us a bigger room? 844 00:51:17,575 --> 00:51:21,161 MARK: This is the only room they have. - Will you call them, please? 845 00:51:21,328 --> 00:51:24,957 I will. I will. Make yourselves at home, please. I'll call. I'll call. 846 00:51:25,124 --> 00:51:30,921 Do you have a suite perhaps that's a bit more roomy for us? 847 00:51:31,505 --> 00:51:35,593 The Makuaha Room. Yes. Is that your biggest room? It sounds big. 848 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,014 But it is, I see. I see. And for the whole day? 849 00:51:40,681 --> 00:51:44,768 Okay, so this is it. We're here, we're stuck. 850 00:51:45,311 --> 00:51:48,981 Okay, then we'll make do. Thank you. 851 00:51:49,607 --> 00:51:52,192 MARK: Looks like we are here to stay, definitely... 852 00:51:52,359 --> 00:51:55,821 ...so let's settle in, and... 853 00:51:55,988 --> 00:51:57,281 ...start. 854 00:51:57,448 --> 00:51:58,866 Oh, no. 855 00:52:00,034 --> 00:52:01,702 Oh, no. 856 00:52:04,038 --> 00:52:07,708 WILSON: Well, I'd like to welcome everybody here. 857 00:52:07,875 --> 00:52:09,376 MARK: Let me just... 858 00:52:09,543 --> 00:52:14,965 Indulge me for a second. I think you might be more comfortable if I move the chair... 859 00:52:18,093 --> 00:52:19,136 Thattaboy, Mark. 860 00:52:23,265 --> 00:52:28,187 We have an old saying at ADM. I think it applies here. 861 00:52:28,354 --> 00:52:32,024 "It's better to have the elephants inside the tent pissing out... 862 00:52:32,191 --> 00:52:35,110 ...than outside the tent pissing in." 863 00:52:35,277 --> 00:52:37,279 Outside piss? 864 00:52:38,072 --> 00:52:40,157 It's better to be part of the group. 865 00:52:40,324 --> 00:52:42,910 What he's saying is, the customers are our enemy. 866 00:52:43,077 --> 00:52:44,995 The competitors are our friend. 867 00:52:45,245 --> 00:52:49,667 It's important we have all the producers involved, including the Cheil Corporation. 868 00:52:49,917 --> 00:52:53,587 I want to know why we have been excluded from association in the past. 869 00:52:53,754 --> 00:52:55,923 We need to be part of this. 870 00:52:56,090 --> 00:52:59,677 - Yeah. - How can we know that ADM will stay... 871 00:52:59,843 --> 00:53:01,595 ...at agreed-upon levels? 872 00:53:02,763 --> 00:53:06,850 Well, it would be our preference that we simply trust each other. 873 00:53:07,101 --> 00:53:09,144 And if we find out someone's been lying... 874 00:53:09,311 --> 00:53:12,773 ...we'll just hire some Mafia figure to rub you out. 875 00:53:13,607 --> 00:53:15,317 That's just a little bit of levity... 876 00:53:15,484 --> 00:53:19,113 ...but the point is that if we can't trust each other... 877 00:53:19,279 --> 00:53:21,073 ...ain't gonna work. 878 00:53:22,282 --> 00:53:24,743 You are okay with that? 879 00:53:24,910 --> 00:53:28,122 Yes. I am all right. 880 00:53:29,331 --> 00:53:33,794 So, what are we saying? 881 00:53:35,045 --> 00:53:38,298 Well, what, do you have a language problem, Mark? 882 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,470 Then we are all... 883 00:53:43,637 --> 00:53:45,806 - Agreed. - Yes. 884 00:53:46,181 --> 00:53:48,183 [MEN APPLAUDING OVER MONITOR] 885 00:53:49,643 --> 00:53:51,979 Agreement. You heard it. 886 00:53:52,146 --> 00:53:54,356 - Congratulations. - Jury's gonna love that. 887 00:53:54,523 --> 00:53:55,899 Well done. You did it. 888 00:53:56,066 --> 00:54:00,988 Christ. How about this guy Whitacre? What's his story? 889 00:54:01,155 --> 00:54:03,824 - What do you mean? - What's his agenda? 890 00:54:03,991 --> 00:54:08,162 The guy's making 350 grand a year, moving up and he turns informer. 891 00:54:08,328 --> 00:54:12,040 When does that happen? ls the money going up his nose? 892 00:54:12,207 --> 00:54:17,004 Some woman somewhere with a kid he's seeing on one of these business trips? 893 00:54:17,671 --> 00:54:18,756 What's his story? 894 00:54:27,181 --> 00:54:29,141 HERNDON: We wanted to show you this. 895 00:54:29,558 --> 00:54:32,686 That's a picture of Mark Whitacre and his family. 896 00:54:32,853 --> 00:54:35,439 We carry that with us all the time... 897 00:54:35,689 --> 00:54:39,026 ...as a constant reminder that he is a real person... 898 00:54:39,276 --> 00:54:41,695 ...with a real family depending on him. 899 00:54:41,862 --> 00:54:45,115 The only reason we have any of these tapes is because of this man. 900 00:54:47,034 --> 00:54:49,286 We want to know when the time comes... 901 00:54:49,453 --> 00:54:51,205 ...if he loses his job... 902 00:54:51,705 --> 00:54:54,291 ...will the government stand behind him? 903 00:54:54,458 --> 00:54:58,587 GINGER: Mark, are you an idiot? - Ginger, I'll be the only one left. 904 00:54:58,754 --> 00:55:02,549 Mick will be gone. Terry will be gone. Dwayne will be gone. 905 00:55:02,716 --> 00:55:05,552 I am a scientist and I understand the business side. 906 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,596 I'm the only one qualified to run ADM. 907 00:55:07,763 --> 00:55:10,390 Mark, that's completely illogical. 908 00:55:10,557 --> 00:55:13,227 How can you stay there when you've taken down the company? 909 00:55:13,393 --> 00:55:15,229 Because they need me to run the company. 910 00:55:15,395 --> 00:55:18,982 First of all, I'm extremely valuable to the company. 911 00:55:19,149 --> 00:55:21,610 And secondly, I did the right thing. 912 00:55:21,777 --> 00:55:25,405 Okay? The board is gonna see that. The board's gonna respect that. 913 00:55:25,572 --> 00:55:28,992 It's the FBI, right? They're brainwashing you. 914 00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:32,746 It's Brian Shepard putting ideas in your head to keep you working for him. 915 00:55:32,913 --> 00:55:36,166 I'm telling you, they will make me the next president of ADM. 916 00:55:37,251 --> 00:55:39,419 MARK: So this is it, huh? HERNDON: Yup. 917 00:55:39,962 --> 00:55:41,755 How's your family doing? 918 00:55:42,005 --> 00:55:45,676 Good. They're gonna be at an amusement park when you guys make your move. 919 00:55:45,926 --> 00:55:49,012 Whatever happens tomorrow, I think it's in your best interest... 920 00:55:49,179 --> 00:55:52,349 ...to get an attorney who's gonna represent your interests alone. 921 00:55:52,516 --> 00:55:55,727 - You want me to get an attorney now? - No, not now. 922 00:55:55,894 --> 00:55:59,523 First, the company lawyers are gonna come to all the executives... 923 00:55:59,690 --> 00:56:01,775 ...with a list of attorneys to pick from. 924 00:56:01,942 --> 00:56:05,404 You've gotta understand, these attorneys are paid for by ADM. 925 00:56:05,571 --> 00:56:06,780 They don't represent you. 926 00:56:06,947 --> 00:56:11,118 Do not pick one of these attorneys. Tell them you have your own attorney. 927 00:56:11,785 --> 00:56:14,872 You need to tell them that you're cooperating with the government. 928 00:56:15,038 --> 00:56:17,416 It's perfectly reasonable for you to cooperate. 929 00:56:17,583 --> 00:56:21,086 I think I know a lawyer in Decatur. I'll talk to him. 930 00:56:21,253 --> 00:56:22,713 The town is too small. 931 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,217 I'm sure you've met lawyers in your business dealings that could handle this. 932 00:56:27,384 --> 00:56:28,635 Definitely. 933 00:56:29,303 --> 00:56:31,597 Now, Mark? Mark? 934 00:56:32,055 --> 00:56:34,725 Once this starts, it is going to be intense. 935 00:56:34,975 --> 00:56:39,062 They are going to know that somebody was on the inside working with us. 936 00:56:39,229 --> 00:56:42,733 And they're gonna do almost anything to find out who it is. 937 00:56:42,983 --> 00:56:46,153 But you guys still think I'm gonna be okay at the company, right? 938 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:51,325 I mean, you guys are gonna take down the bad guys, but I'll be okay, right? 939 00:56:52,326 --> 00:56:56,038 Well, I think it's important to remember... 940 00:56:56,204 --> 00:57:00,500 ...what we talked about before, and what we're talking about right now... 941 00:57:01,501 --> 00:57:04,087 ...is tell them... 942 00:57:05,255 --> 00:57:07,674 -...you're cooperating with the government. - I know. 943 00:57:07,841 --> 00:57:11,720 But I'm just asking if you guys think I'm gonna be okay at the company. 944 00:57:11,887 --> 00:57:15,015 The corporate culture's gonna change a little bit for you. 945 00:57:15,182 --> 00:57:17,059 MARK: I should say so. 946 00:57:17,225 --> 00:57:19,895 - Yeah. - We should just focus on the raid. 947 00:57:20,062 --> 00:57:21,104 - Right? - Yes. 948 00:58:04,022 --> 00:58:08,402 - Mark, you're making that up. - No, Archer, the A in ADM... 949 00:58:08,568 --> 00:58:12,239 ...choked to death, 1947, on a chicken bone. 950 00:58:12,406 --> 00:58:14,366 Fact. Fact. 951 00:58:14,533 --> 00:58:17,536 Well, there you have it, from Mark Whitacre, Ph.D. 952 00:58:17,786 --> 00:58:21,164 You know what the Ph.D. stands for, don't you? Piled Higher and Deeper. 953 00:58:21,331 --> 00:58:26,044 Heh. Let me guess. Daniels was killed by a pig and the cows got Midland. 954 00:58:26,211 --> 00:58:30,674 [ALL LAUGH] 955 00:58:30,882 --> 00:58:33,343 A chicken got Archer. I'll tell you, 50 years later... 956 00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:36,430 ...our deals with Tyson Farms, Foster Farms... 957 00:58:36,596 --> 00:58:38,056 ...what's the body count? 958 00:58:38,223 --> 00:58:42,769 Mr. Wilson, Mr. Whitacre, I'm Bob Herndon and I'm an FBI agent. 959 00:58:42,936 --> 00:58:45,397 - This is Special Agent Shepard. - What is going on'? 960 00:58:45,564 --> 00:58:48,275 - Mr. Whitacre, would you come with me? MARK: I don't... 961 00:58:48,442 --> 00:58:51,695 - I have no idea what this is about. - Mr. Whitacre, please. 962 00:58:51,862 --> 00:58:53,947 - Could you come with us? - Do I need a lawyer? 963 00:58:54,114 --> 00:58:56,241 MARK: A lawyer? Terry. - Excuse me. 964 00:58:56,742 --> 00:58:59,244 I saved a guy once at a restaurant in Hong Kong. 965 00:58:59,494 --> 00:59:02,914 He was choking and I got him to throw himself over the back of his chair. 966 00:59:03,081 --> 00:59:06,418 He sends me cards on holidays just to say thanks. 967 00:59:06,668 --> 00:59:09,171 Tells me what his kids are studying. He remembers me. 968 00:59:09,421 --> 00:59:12,382 You can take first-aid courses from your local fire department. 969 00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:16,261 You got a reason for embarrassing my colleague and I in front of a prospect? 970 00:59:16,428 --> 00:59:18,138 This is a serious matter. 971 00:59:18,305 --> 00:59:21,933 It involves an international investigation into price fixing. 972 00:59:22,267 --> 00:59:25,020 We have seen you and your boss, Mick Andreas... 973 00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:27,814 ...conspire with your competitors to fix prices. 974 00:59:27,981 --> 00:59:30,525 We have seen you tell others to do it. 975 00:59:30,692 --> 00:59:32,152 There will be indictments. 976 00:59:32,319 --> 00:59:34,488 Search warrants have been issued. 977 00:59:34,654 --> 00:59:39,826 And some people, people who you know and work with, will be going to jail. 978 00:59:40,952 --> 00:59:42,496 MARK: Look at that. 979 00:59:42,662 --> 00:59:46,041 Look at that. Look at Terry and Bob. 980 00:59:46,208 --> 00:59:49,377 Oh, I wish I could be a fly on that wall. 981 00:59:49,628 --> 00:59:52,547 Oh, hey, I was good, right? Didn't I seem really scared? 982 00:59:52,714 --> 00:59:54,216 I actually felt scared. 983 00:59:54,382 --> 00:59:56,468 Remember what we told you, all right? 984 00:59:56,635 --> 00:59:58,887 Tell them you're that cooperating first thing... 985 00:59:59,054 --> 01:00:02,516 -...and do not take one of their lawyers. - Right. No. 986 01:00:02,682 --> 01:00:03,850 MARK: What'd you say to your guy? 987 01:00:04,017 --> 01:00:05,852 WILSON: Nothing, I told him nothing. Slow down. 988 01:00:06,019 --> 01:00:07,354 MARK: Me neither. I said nothing. 989 01:00:07,521 --> 01:00:10,398 WILSON: He said that he had price-fixing tapes. What the fuck is that? 990 01:00:10,565 --> 01:00:14,444 MARK: Well, I bet they have the phones tapped. I always said that. It's the phones. 991 01:00:14,611 --> 01:00:17,364 WILSON: I can't believe they would pull this shit on Dwayne Andreas. 992 01:00:17,531 --> 01:00:19,491 MARK: Look, I get phone calls from time to time. 993 01:00:19,658 --> 01:00:21,243 WILSON: I know, I know. 994 01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:23,120 Oh, God. 995 01:00:23,286 --> 01:00:25,664 We're going to the lawyers. I don't want phones. 996 01:00:25,831 --> 01:00:26,998 See? The phones. 997 01:00:27,165 --> 01:00:29,501 They hit everybody. My dad, Schmidt, Randall. 998 01:00:29,668 --> 01:00:30,710 Oh, fuck me. 999 01:00:30,877 --> 01:00:33,046 No, they played me a tape of me. 1000 01:00:33,213 --> 01:00:36,299 Some meeting with the fucking Japanese. I called the lawyers. 1001 01:00:36,466 --> 01:00:38,718 - We're gonna go there. - Yeah? They played a tape. 1002 01:00:38,885 --> 01:00:42,556 - How the fuck did they get a tape? - I really don't think they have that much. 1003 01:00:42,722 --> 01:00:45,100 When you factor in everything we've done for them... 1004 01:00:45,267 --> 01:00:48,395 ...this will be a 10-year thing for the lawyers. Maybe a fine. 1005 01:00:48,562 --> 01:00:52,315 That's all this is ever gonna be. Trust me. 1006 01:00:52,524 --> 01:00:53,859 [DOOR CLOSES] 1007 01:00:54,401 --> 01:00:55,485 - How's it going? - Good. 1008 01:00:55,652 --> 01:00:57,404 FBI. 1009 01:00:58,363 --> 01:01:02,325 Yeah, he's here. I got Agent Temples for Attorney Mutchnik. 1010 01:01:05,370 --> 01:01:06,580 This is James Mutchnik. 1011 01:01:06,746 --> 01:01:09,082 TEMPLES". Just interviewed an ADM employee, Kirk Schmidt. 1012 01:01:09,958 --> 01:01:14,212 Schmidt knew we were coming. Says he knew about the raid days ago. 1013 01:01:15,297 --> 01:01:17,382 He says Whitacre told him. 1014 01:01:18,633 --> 01:01:19,759 Thanks. 1015 01:01:19,926 --> 01:01:23,346 - He sees you sitting in the window and-- - Bob. Brian. 1016 01:01:23,513 --> 01:01:25,265 Can I talk to you guys for a second? 1017 01:01:30,562 --> 01:01:32,939 That was amazing. You guys should have seen it. 1018 01:01:33,106 --> 01:01:36,276 Oh, Terry was so scared, and Mick and the lawyers, they were just-- 1019 01:01:36,443 --> 01:01:38,153 - They were pissed. SHEPARD: That's super. 1020 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,697 They thought you guys gave me the once-over. 1021 01:01:40,864 --> 01:01:43,200 They're like, "You all right?" I'm going, "Yeah." 1022 01:01:43,366 --> 01:01:46,453 - Did you make a tape? - Yeah, I made a tape. A great one. 1023 01:01:46,620 --> 01:01:47,913 Really good. 1024 01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:49,873 So it's over, then. 1025 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,082 SHEPARD: Mark... 1026 01:01:52,250 --> 01:01:53,543 ...who did you tell? 1027 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,757 - What? - Who else did you tell about the raid? 1028 01:02:03,345 --> 01:02:04,971 Well... 1029 01:02:06,097 --> 01:02:07,766 I had to tell my secretary. 1030 01:02:08,934 --> 01:02:12,604 Guys, I'm the head of the bioproducts division. 1031 01:02:12,771 --> 01:02:16,107 She has to know where to get in touch with me. I told her months ago. 1032 01:02:16,274 --> 01:02:19,819 So all I said was, "Liz, I'm doing some work with the FBI. 1033 01:02:19,986 --> 01:02:22,030 I might be out of touch for a while." 1034 01:02:22,197 --> 01:02:26,493 That's it. She had no idea about our case. 1035 01:02:32,707 --> 01:02:36,169 I'm pretty sure I've mentioned the name Kathy Dougherty a time or two... 1036 01:02:36,336 --> 01:02:37,671 ...in my division. 1037 01:02:37,837 --> 01:02:43,343 Kathy is a friend. She is a trusted ally. 1038 01:02:43,510 --> 01:02:44,970 I didn't want her to be scared. 1039 01:02:45,136 --> 01:02:48,014 Why would you do that, Mark? Why would you tell Dougherty? 1040 01:02:48,181 --> 01:02:53,019 Because I didn't want her to be scared. I trust her. 1041 01:02:53,186 --> 01:02:55,605 - Guys, we can trust Kathy. - Who else? 1042 01:02:55,772 --> 01:02:57,941 Don't jack us around, Mark. 1043 01:03:01,695 --> 01:03:03,363 Mm. 1044 01:03:03,655 --> 01:03:06,783 Kirk Schmidt. I mean, Schmidty... 1045 01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:10,161 Look, I was afraid that he wouldn't say anything to you guys. 1046 01:03:10,328 --> 01:03:12,747 That he'd clam up on account of he's loyal to me. 1047 01:03:12,914 --> 01:03:15,375 You could have ruined this entire operation. 1048 01:03:15,542 --> 01:03:17,836 Has anything gone wrong? Has anything gone wrong? 1049 01:03:18,003 --> 01:03:19,462 Time out. Time out. Time out. 1050 01:03:21,089 --> 01:03:25,468 Mark, you know what you did, in our eyes, was wrong. 1051 01:03:26,678 --> 01:03:31,057 - It was supposed to be a secret. SHEPARD: Look, we can get past this. 1052 01:03:31,224 --> 01:03:35,103 But is there anything else that we need to know? 1053 01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:36,896 No. 1054 01:03:37,772 --> 01:03:39,399 No, not that I can think of. 1055 01:03:46,031 --> 01:03:47,741 Remember... 1056 01:03:47,907 --> 01:03:49,909 ...tell them you're getting your own lawyer. 1057 01:03:50,076 --> 01:03:52,579 MARK: I know about the lawyers, Brian! 1058 01:04:38,917 --> 01:04:41,795 Mark Whitacre, Aubrey Daniel. 1059 01:04:41,961 --> 01:04:44,589 Pleasure to meet you. I'm representing ADM in this matter. 1060 01:04:44,756 --> 01:04:45,799 0K8)'- 1061 01:04:45,965 --> 01:04:49,094 - This is John Dowd, a colleague of mine. - Good morning, John. 1062 01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:52,847 Dwayne has filled us in on your responsibilities here, so... 1063 01:04:53,098 --> 01:04:56,935 Aubrey prosecuted Lieutenant Calley after the My Lai massacre in Vietnam... 1064 01:04:57,102 --> 01:05:00,563 ...so this ought to be a cakewalk for him. 1065 01:05:00,730 --> 01:05:02,982 We were hoping you'd have time to talk to John. 1066 01:05:03,149 --> 01:05:05,652 - Sure. - ADM's behind you on this, Mark. 1067 01:05:05,819 --> 01:05:08,488 Dad and I want all the key people to know... 1068 01:05:08,655 --> 01:05:10,990 ...that we're gonna be paying all your legal fees. 1069 01:05:11,157 --> 01:05:13,660 Oh, great. Great. Thank you, that's great. 1070 01:05:13,827 --> 01:05:17,330 Then... Then we'll let you fellas get acquainted, okay? 1071 01:05:17,497 --> 01:05:18,581 0K8)'- 1072 01:05:20,834 --> 01:05:24,254 - How you holding up, Mark? Thanks. - Good. Please, sit down. 1073 01:05:25,171 --> 01:05:26,631 [SIGHS] 1074 01:05:29,217 --> 01:05:32,137 - John, can I ask you something? - Sure, anything. 1075 01:05:32,303 --> 01:05:36,683 If I say something to you, are you allowed to say anything to Mick and Dwayne? 1076 01:05:40,603 --> 01:05:42,605 [INAUDIBLE DIALOGUE] 1077 01:05:55,034 --> 01:05:57,036 [INAUDIBLE DIALOGUE] 1078 01:06:04,669 --> 01:06:06,546 Oh. Here we go. 1079 01:06:17,015 --> 01:06:21,227 MARK: I need to tell you I'm gonna be cooperating with the FBI. 1080 01:06:21,769 --> 01:06:23,354 They have hundreds of tapes. 1081 01:06:24,522 --> 01:06:26,524 They know all about lysine. 1082 01:06:27,609 --> 01:06:30,570 And John here agrees with me I should be getting another lawyer. 1083 01:06:30,737 --> 01:06:33,364 Oh. No question about it. 1084 01:06:36,701 --> 01:06:39,078 I want to say sorry for everything that's happened. 1085 01:06:39,245 --> 01:06:40,538 Sorry? 1086 01:06:41,748 --> 01:06:43,333 What's that? 1087 01:06:44,209 --> 01:06:46,544 It feels good to talk, to clear the air. 1088 01:06:46,711 --> 01:06:48,755 You get to be like a balloon after a while... 1089 01:06:48,922 --> 01:06:52,759 ...a balloon looking for a pin to bump into and relieve the pressure. 1090 01:06:52,926 --> 01:06:56,387 You could get sick from keeping it inside and get a tumor or something. 1091 01:06:56,554 --> 01:06:57,931 I didn't ask for that. 1092 01:06:58,348 --> 01:07:00,850 I have a friend from school who has a law practice. 1093 01:07:01,017 --> 01:07:04,187 And he's always telling me how they can't talk about their cases. 1094 01:07:04,354 --> 01:07:06,731 Like in The Firm. You can tell them anything. 1095 01:07:06,898 --> 01:07:11,069 They have to keep it to themselves or they get in a lot of trouble. They're boxed. 1096 01:07:11,236 --> 01:07:13,238 That's what they say: boxed. 1097 01:07:13,613 --> 01:07:16,491 LAWYER: So there wasn't a saboteur at all. You made that up? 1098 01:07:16,658 --> 01:07:19,494 MARK: Well, maybe there was. I mean, there could have been. 1099 01:07:19,661 --> 01:07:20,954 0K8)'- 1100 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,039 ADM steals technology from the Japanese... 1101 01:07:23,206 --> 01:07:26,459 ...so I wouldn't put it past the Japanese to do the same thing to us. 1102 01:07:26,626 --> 01:07:29,128 But once I told the FBI that I'd made that part up... 1103 01:07:29,295 --> 01:07:33,633 ...they said I had very little choice but to be a cooperating witness. 1104 01:07:34,300 --> 01:07:37,804 And you began making tapes. How many tapes did you make? 1105 01:07:37,971 --> 01:07:41,057 There are over 200 tapes. 1106 01:07:41,474 --> 01:07:43,142 Ooh. 1107 01:07:43,476 --> 01:07:47,564 There are so many really nice people in the world, people who want to help out. 1108 01:07:47,730 --> 01:07:49,816 Good neighbors, good listeners. 1109 01:07:50,108 --> 01:07:52,068 Like when they had floods in Mississippi... 1110 01:07:52,235 --> 01:07:54,904 ...and people lose everything and are sleeping in a gym... 1111 01:07:55,071 --> 01:07:59,367 ...someone always shows up with a warm coat and a homemade pot roast. 1112 01:07:59,534 --> 01:08:04,038 That's why Ginger and I bought that girl a computer after she had the spine injury. 1113 01:08:04,205 --> 01:08:06,624 That kind of thing really makes a difference. 1114 01:08:06,791 --> 01:08:08,668 Jim here strikes me as that kind of guy. 1115 01:08:08,835 --> 01:08:12,297 He's the one-in-a-hundred guy who, when you come into the emergency room... 1116 01:08:12,463 --> 01:08:14,549 ...you thank your lucky stars it's his watch. 1117 01:08:14,716 --> 01:08:18,094 --Illegal campaign contributions, whatever. Whatever we're talking about. 1118 01:08:18,261 --> 01:08:20,680 So then I'd come back. Two nights a week or so... 1119 01:08:20,847 --> 01:08:23,808 ...Brian and Bob and I would get together, and we'd... 1120 01:08:23,975 --> 01:08:27,353 You know, we'd work it. We'd build the investigation. 1121 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,939 Get everything we needed, gather all the information. 1122 01:08:30,106 --> 01:08:32,191 Then we went to DOJ, briefed those lawyers... 1123 01:08:32,358 --> 01:08:36,154 ...and before you knew it, we were hitting ADM, raiding the place, taking it down. 1124 01:08:36,321 --> 01:08:38,740 And for how long did you do this? Work as an informant? 1125 01:08:38,906 --> 01:08:42,368 Ahh, ooh. Two and a half years. 1126 01:08:43,202 --> 01:08:46,664 Two and a half years. 1127 01:08:46,831 --> 01:08:48,541 You know, and I always thought... 1128 01:08:48,708 --> 01:08:52,045 ...there'd still be a place for me at ADM when this whole thing was over. 1129 01:08:52,211 --> 01:08:54,422 I still have a lot of friends there. 1130 01:08:54,589 --> 01:08:55,632 A lot of friends. 1131 01:08:58,718 --> 01:09:00,386 Hey, Mark... 1132 01:09:01,012 --> 01:09:04,807 ...it's very important to your case you not discuss this with anyone else. Okay? 1133 01:09:05,391 --> 01:09:09,979 These people you work with, your friends, they could end up being witnesses. 1134 01:09:10,146 --> 01:09:14,025 Bob and I are the only people you talk to about this from now on. 1135 01:09:14,359 --> 01:09:17,487 All right? And I want you to know that you can tell us anything. 1136 01:09:18,696 --> 01:09:20,198 - Okay. Yeah. EPSTEIN: Okay? 1137 01:09:20,365 --> 01:09:24,535 Well, they kept coming to the house and they only had ADM's side of the story. 1138 01:09:24,744 --> 01:09:27,288 SHEPARD [OVER PHONE]: Did you talk to The Wall Street Journal, Mark? 1139 01:09:27,455 --> 01:09:30,750 What did you say? It's real important that you not talk to the press. 1140 01:09:31,042 --> 01:09:34,212 Me? I told them I had no comment, but it didn't matter. 1141 01:09:34,379 --> 01:09:37,423 They had the story anyway. They already had it. 1142 01:09:39,092 --> 01:09:42,553 Did you see my stipple portrait? It's pretty good. 1143 01:09:48,685 --> 01:09:50,436 EPSTEIN: Oh, shit. 1144 01:09:57,235 --> 01:10:00,780 MAN 1: I'd appreciate any comment you can make on the allegations on the TV. 1145 01:10:00,947 --> 01:10:03,282 Just a quick comment. What do you have to say? 1146 01:10:03,449 --> 01:10:08,538 I came out to tell you that I'm not allowed to talk to the press at this time. 1147 01:10:08,705 --> 01:10:11,124 WOMAN: At least any comment on the effects of your actions... 1148 01:10:11,290 --> 01:10:13,126 ...on ADM's declining stock prices? 1149 01:10:13,292 --> 01:10:16,462 What's been the reaction of your friends being taped? 1150 01:10:16,629 --> 01:10:19,757 Well, I'm a person of interest in an ongoing investigation. 1151 01:10:19,924 --> 01:10:22,593 MAN 2: Do you believe you and your family can stay in Decatur? 1152 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,595 Has the government made arrangements to move you? 1153 01:10:24,762 --> 01:10:25,972 [REPORTERS CLAMORING] 1154 01:10:28,641 --> 01:10:31,477 We're still getting the threatening phone calls. 1155 01:10:31,811 --> 01:10:34,772 And I know for a fact that Dwayne and Terry... 1156 01:10:34,939 --> 01:10:39,819 ...have been telling people that he wasn't a good worker and he can't be trusted. 1157 01:10:39,986 --> 01:10:41,821 We told Mark. 1158 01:10:42,113 --> 01:10:44,615 We told him that he had to expect the unexpected... 1159 01:10:44,782 --> 01:10:46,242 ...that he might be attacked... 1160 01:10:46,409 --> 01:10:50,121 ...that he wasn't gonna win any popularity contests for this. 1161 01:10:50,288 --> 01:10:53,332 Well, he just mopes around here all clay... 1162 01:10:53,499 --> 01:10:56,919 ...watching the news, looking for a glimpse of himself. 1163 01:10:57,086 --> 01:11:02,175 Or he's calling someone from ADM, trying to get the latest gossip. 1164 01:11:03,009 --> 01:11:07,472 Maybe you guys should get out of town until the hearings start. 1165 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,682 He's got to stop talking to people. 1166 01:11:13,770 --> 01:11:15,813 Well, the FBI never forced me to cooperate. 1167 01:11:16,022 --> 01:11:17,774 I don't owe Brian Shepard the truth. 1168 01:11:17,940 --> 01:11:22,487 I gave Brian Shepard two and a half years and now I have legal bills to show for it. 1169 01:11:22,653 --> 01:11:25,156 And I'm the good guy in this, the guy who took on ADM. 1170 01:11:25,364 --> 01:11:29,035 ls Brian Shepard gonna lose his job for that? His standard of living? 1171 01:11:29,202 --> 01:11:32,705 I've gone to the school on career day and talked about biochemistry... 1172 01:11:32,872 --> 01:11:34,832 ...and the career opportunities available. 1173 01:11:35,041 --> 01:11:38,211 Can Brian Shepard and Bob Herndon say that? I'm the white hat. 1174 01:11:38,377 --> 01:11:42,548 I did enough for Brian Shepard. Who's gonna take care of me? 1175 01:11:42,715 --> 01:11:45,468 Who has a plaque for the Mark Whitacre Environmental Award? 1176 01:11:45,635 --> 01:11:47,887 Where are your friends when it's dump on Whitacre? 1177 01:11:48,054 --> 01:11:50,389 Where's the pot roast and the warm coat? 1178 01:12:22,004 --> 01:12:25,132 You can see where he pasted it. 1179 01:12:25,299 --> 01:12:27,510 He's a fucking forger. 1180 01:12:30,429 --> 01:12:31,639 [CELL PHONE RINGS] 1181 01:12:35,601 --> 01:12:40,606 - Mark Whitacre. - Hello, Mark. It's Aubrey Daniel. 1182 01:12:40,773 --> 01:12:44,527 Listen, I'm here in Mick Andreas's office and we were wondering: 1183 01:12:44,694 --> 01:12:48,948 Does the name Lennart Thorstensson mean anything to you? 1184 01:12:50,366 --> 01:12:55,288 What about Nordkron Chemie? Does that ring a bell? 1185 01:12:57,999 --> 01:13:00,376 I'll have someone get back to you on that. 1186 01:13:00,543 --> 01:13:03,129 Oh, sure. You do that. 1187 01:13:04,297 --> 01:13:06,299 [CHUCKLING] 1188 01:13:06,465 --> 01:13:07,967 - He's going to call us back. - Sure. 1189 01:13:08,134 --> 01:13:10,052 [ALL LAUGHING] 1190 01:13:23,316 --> 01:13:27,778 My lawyer's telling me not to talk to you guys, but... 1191 01:13:27,945 --> 01:13:30,698 ...there's something I've been wanting to talk to you about. 1192 01:13:30,865 --> 01:13:32,533 Don't tell us anything. 1193 01:13:32,700 --> 01:13:36,954 You have a lawyer now and it's not like it was before. 1194 01:13:37,121 --> 01:13:39,498 SHEPARD: We are not asking you. 1195 01:13:40,499 --> 01:13:43,336 Okay, what if I just put out some hypotheticals? 1196 01:13:43,878 --> 01:13:48,507 And, you know, I'll talk about certain financial situations... 1197 01:13:48,674 --> 01:13:52,345 ...and you guys can tell me if they're wrong or how serious they might be. 1198 01:13:52,511 --> 01:13:53,638 Okay, for instance... 1199 01:13:55,514 --> 01:13:57,016 ...what if... 1200 01:13:58,142 --> 01:14:02,063 ...a company gave an executive a car? You know, a corporate car. 1201 01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:04,690 And instead of driving that to work... 1202 01:14:04,857 --> 01:14:08,361 ...he drove his personal car and he gave the company car to his daughter. 1203 01:14:09,987 --> 01:14:11,530 Would that be a problem? 1204 01:14:13,407 --> 01:14:14,825 That's it? 1205 01:14:14,992 --> 01:14:17,203 That's the hypothetical? 1206 01:14:18,371 --> 01:14:20,498 That shouldn't be a problem. 1207 01:14:21,707 --> 01:14:23,167 0K8)'- 1208 01:14:24,293 --> 01:14:27,213 What if it was a corporate plane... 1209 01:14:27,713 --> 01:14:31,092 ...and the executive was using that for personal use? 1210 01:14:31,258 --> 01:14:33,386 Oh. Basically the same thing. 1211 01:14:33,552 --> 01:14:36,055 Maybe some IRS issues, but... 1212 01:14:37,348 --> 01:14:38,849 0K8)'- 1213 01:14:40,643 --> 01:14:42,520 What if... 1214 01:14:42,687 --> 01:14:44,689 ...it was standard practice at ADM... 1215 01:14:44,855 --> 01:14:49,735 ...for executives to regularly accept kickbacks in cash? 1216 01:14:56,242 --> 01:14:58,703 How much money are we talking about... 1217 01:14:59,245 --> 01:15:00,788 ...Mark? 1218 01:15:01,539 --> 01:15:06,043 Well, Brian, hypothetically, $500,000. 1219 01:15:06,210 --> 01:15:08,838 - How much? -It's the way things are done there. 1220 01:15:09,005 --> 01:15:12,508 Okay? I'm not the only one who was doing it. 1221 01:15:13,592 --> 01:15:15,219 Everybody's doing it. 1222 01:15:16,012 --> 01:15:18,931 When did this start, Mark? 1223 01:15:19,765 --> 01:15:22,101 December 1991. 1224 01:15:26,605 --> 01:15:29,108 You, uh, ahem... 1225 01:15:29,275 --> 01:15:31,277 How were you paid? 1226 01:15:32,570 --> 01:15:33,779 Paid by check. 1227 01:15:33,946 --> 01:15:36,157 A check is deposited in various accounts... 1228 01:15:36,323 --> 01:15:41,787 ...and always under the amount of $10,000. 1229 01:15:41,954 --> 01:15:45,541 And did any of these checks come in... 1230 01:15:46,751 --> 01:15:48,627 ...after we met? 1231 01:15:53,007 --> 01:15:54,300 Maybe. 1232 01:15:59,472 --> 01:16:03,017 AUBREY: Two-point-five million dollars, deposited into an account in Switzerland... 1233 01:16:03,184 --> 01:16:06,228 ...while Mark Whitacre was there on ADM business. 1234 01:16:06,395 --> 01:16:07,897 Now, we have sworn testimony... 1235 01:16:08,064 --> 01:16:11,108 ...from Mr. Lennart Thorstensson of the ABP Corporation... 1236 01:16:11,275 --> 01:16:16,447 ...that he has never seen this contract, and that his signature is forged. 1237 01:16:17,156 --> 01:16:20,993 Neither he nor his company have ever received this check. 1238 01:16:22,286 --> 01:16:24,371 Now, it is clear to us that Mark Whitacre... 1239 01:16:24,538 --> 01:16:27,583 ...driven by his own boundless ambition to take over ADM... 1240 01:16:27,750 --> 01:16:29,835 ...has attempted to frame his superiors... 1241 01:16:30,002 --> 01:16:33,130 ...in a price-fixing conspiracy of his own invention. 1242 01:16:33,297 --> 01:16:35,341 His cooperation with the government... 1243 01:16:35,508 --> 01:16:39,303 ...merely a smokescreen to hide his lying, cheating and stealing. 1244 01:16:40,096 --> 01:16:41,680 We have additional information... 1245 01:16:41,847 --> 01:16:45,142 ...that we are willing to share with Attorney General Reno... 1246 01:16:45,309 --> 01:16:48,354 ...that the money has since been moved to Grand Cayman... 1247 01:16:48,521 --> 01:16:52,358 ...with the full knowledge and complicity of Whitacre's FBI partners. 1248 01:16:53,359 --> 01:16:56,779 SHEPARD: What are they accusing me of? I want the specifics. 1249 01:16:56,946 --> 01:16:58,948 Are they saying I'm in cahoots with the guy? 1250 01:16:59,115 --> 01:17:01,325 MEDFORD: Paragraph 8 in our agreement with Whitacre... 1251 01:17:01,492 --> 01:17:04,036 ...states that his actions are directly attributable... 1252 01:17:04,203 --> 01:17:06,705 ...to the FBI and the United States government. 1253 01:17:06,872 --> 01:17:10,626 They're saying he stole two and a half million dollars while we were running him. 1254 01:17:10,793 --> 01:17:14,171 But how could we know what he was doing? He came to us. 1255 01:17:14,338 --> 01:17:17,216 The question they're asking isn't "How could we know?" 1256 01:17:17,383 --> 01:17:18,759 It's "Why didn't We know?" 1257 01:17:18,926 --> 01:17:22,304 No. The question is, "Were they price fixing?" 1258 01:17:22,471 --> 01:17:25,724 The investigation has shifted from ADM to Whitacre. 1259 01:17:25,891 --> 01:17:29,395 Ha. Of course. ADM decides Whitacre's a thief... 1260 01:17:29,562 --> 01:17:31,730 ...as soon as they find out he's working for us. 1261 01:17:31,897 --> 01:17:34,900 Who's counting money if they can lose two and a half million... 1262 01:17:35,067 --> 01:17:37,027 ...for years, then find it in a few hours? 1263 01:17:37,194 --> 01:17:38,237 We gotta call Mark. 1264 01:17:38,404 --> 01:17:41,407 PAISLEY: I don't want you to do that. - We're taking you off. 1265 01:17:44,410 --> 01:17:45,995 That's it? 1266 01:17:47,580 --> 01:17:49,331 We're done? 1267 01:17:50,749 --> 01:17:53,419 I thought the FBI never hung a witness out to dry. 1268 01:17:53,586 --> 01:17:55,754 He's not a witness anymore. He's a target. 1269 01:17:56,046 --> 01:17:59,717 MARK: I only kept a million and a half dollars. And Mick knew about it. 1270 01:17:59,884 --> 01:18:02,553 He knows these things went on. Who do you think taught me? 1271 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,598 You can't bullshit these people. Who knows what they know? 1272 01:18:05,764 --> 01:18:07,516 We gotta go in with the whole story. 1273 01:18:07,683 --> 01:18:11,604 It gets bad for you if you tell them you'll confess and don't. Then you're screwed. 1274 01:18:11,770 --> 01:18:14,273 This is it. What you have in front of you, that is it. 1275 01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:17,443 I've found every bank statement, every record. 1276 01:18:18,569 --> 01:18:20,779 Why would I hide anything from you guys? 1277 01:18:21,488 --> 01:18:23,073 This is it. 1278 01:18:38,631 --> 01:18:42,927 I haven't been telling you guys the whole truth, but I'm gonna clear that up in there. 1279 01:18:43,093 --> 01:18:46,263 - What? - No, we gotta get you out of here. 1280 01:18:46,430 --> 01:18:48,265 No, no, I want to tell. 1281 01:18:49,808 --> 01:18:52,686 Mr. Whitacre's conduct constitutes a breach of agreement... 1282 01:18:52,853 --> 01:18:54,146 ...with the U.S. government. 1283 01:18:54,313 --> 01:18:56,565 He is no longer a cooperating witness. 1284 01:18:58,442 --> 01:19:01,320 This is outrageous. My client has given you years of his life. 1285 01:19:01,487 --> 01:19:03,948 Clearly, he made mistakes, but he made your case. 1286 01:19:04,114 --> 01:19:06,742 We are not here to discuss the case against ADM. 1287 01:19:06,909 --> 01:19:09,161 Mr. Whitacre, my name is Ed Herbst... 1288 01:19:09,328 --> 01:19:12,498 ...and I am with the FBl's Economic Crimes Unit. 1289 01:19:12,665 --> 01:19:14,667 This is Mary Spearing and Don McKay... 1290 01:19:14,833 --> 01:19:17,211 ...from the Department of Justice Fraud Division. 1291 01:19:17,378 --> 01:19:19,838 And we were wondering if you could tell us... 1292 01:19:20,005 --> 01:19:23,634 ...when your criminal conduct at ADM began. 1293 01:19:24,426 --> 01:19:27,554 In early 1992... 1294 01:19:28,555 --> 01:19:33,185 ...I was taught how things are done there by Mick Andreas... 1295 01:19:34,061 --> 01:19:36,855 ...who showed me how to use embezzlements... 1296 01:19:37,022 --> 01:19:40,359 ...and kickbacks in order to make money tax-free. 1297 01:19:40,526 --> 01:19:41,860 My client is voluntarily-- 1298 01:19:42,027 --> 01:19:45,948 No, I'm aware that the fraud that I perpetrated... 1299 01:19:46,115 --> 01:19:48,367 ...was wrong and... 1300 01:19:48,534 --> 01:19:50,202 ...I accept responsibility. 1301 01:19:50,703 --> 01:19:52,496 How did you receive the money? 1302 01:19:52,663 --> 01:19:56,333 By check. They would deposit the check to my account in Decatur. 1303 01:19:56,500 --> 01:19:59,211 They paid kickbacks in checks? 1304 01:19:59,670 --> 01:20:01,630 What company would pay kickbacks in checks? 1305 01:20:01,797 --> 01:20:03,924 Well, I don't remember the name of the company. 1306 01:20:04,091 --> 01:20:08,637 It was, like, Agra Consulting and Trading or something like that. 1307 01:20:08,804 --> 01:20:11,390 You don't remember the company that paid you checks? 1308 01:20:11,557 --> 01:20:13,767 It's hard to remember for me right now. 1309 01:20:13,934 --> 01:20:17,396 I have things going on in my life, in case you haven't been reading papers. 1310 01:20:17,563 --> 01:20:21,567 We're coming to you. We're cooperating. We're gonna get the money back. 1311 01:20:21,734 --> 01:20:25,738 I think this might help your memory. 1312 01:20:29,742 --> 01:20:31,910 Now, where did we get those? 1313 01:20:32,077 --> 01:20:36,415 These are ADM documents showing forging of signatures. 1314 01:20:36,623 --> 01:20:37,666 [GROANS] 1315 01:20:37,833 --> 01:20:40,961 MARK: Didn't these people see The Firm? Or read the book? 1316 01:20:41,128 --> 01:20:44,923 It's all there. Everything they did to me, they did to Tom Cruise. 1317 01:20:45,090 --> 01:20:47,426 I'm not the one they should be mad at. 1318 01:20:47,593 --> 01:20:49,470 HERNDON: We can't see you anymore. 1319 01:20:49,636 --> 01:20:55,434 And if you call us and start to talk about the case, we'll have to hang up. 1320 01:20:55,601 --> 01:20:58,937 You can talk to us about your feelings... 1321 01:20:59,396 --> 01:21:00,981 ...but that's it. 1322 01:21:02,858 --> 01:21:05,569 Mark, please understand. 1323 01:21:06,445 --> 01:21:10,324 It's not what we want. We got no choice here. 1324 01:21:10,491 --> 01:21:15,120 You know, the thing of it is, all of my anger, all of my frustration... 1325 01:21:15,287 --> 01:21:18,248 ...stems from my work with you guys. 1326 01:21:18,415 --> 01:21:20,459 And all this crap in the paper... 1327 01:21:22,294 --> 01:21:24,213 My kids are seeing this. 1328 01:21:25,589 --> 01:21:27,800 And it's all just dump on Mark Whitacre. 1329 01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:32,971 Remember, Mark, we told you it would be impossible to predict... 1330 01:21:33,138 --> 01:21:35,474 ...what would happen when the case went public. 1331 01:21:36,266 --> 01:21:38,477 You never told us about the $5 million you took. 1332 01:21:38,644 --> 01:21:41,146 I don't see what that has to do with the price fixing. 1333 01:21:41,313 --> 01:21:43,941 He worked for you for two and a half years. 1334 01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:46,944 He risked his career, his home... 1335 01:21:47,820 --> 01:21:53,033 ...and now you just turn your back on him and leave us out here. 1336 01:21:53,659 --> 01:21:54,827 Yes, Ginger. 1337 01:21:54,993 --> 01:21:57,579 SHEPARD: The reason we came here today... 1338 01:21:58,956 --> 01:22:03,168 ...is because we're concerned about your and Mark's well-being. 1339 01:22:04,128 --> 01:22:09,675 It's important you tell the people in Washington everything tomorrow. 1340 01:22:09,842 --> 01:22:11,468 One hundred percent. 1341 01:22:11,635 --> 01:22:15,848 You would have nothing without him, and you know it. 1342 01:22:16,765 --> 01:22:19,226 He's being used by the government, then thrown away... 1343 01:22:19,393 --> 01:22:23,689 ...because it's easier to go after Mark Whitacre than anyone named Andreas. 1344 01:22:27,192 --> 01:22:29,945 MARK: We took the kids one year to the Renaissance festival. 1345 01:22:30,112 --> 01:22:31,572 You get to be the white knight. 1346 01:22:31,738 --> 01:22:35,325 The kids get to ride a horse and joust against the forces of darkness. 1347 01:22:35,492 --> 01:22:39,163 The white knight always wins. The forces of darkness fall onto an old mattress. 1348 01:22:39,329 --> 01:22:42,875 Someone plays a lute and plays a song from medieval times. 1349 01:22:43,041 --> 01:22:45,961 It was 90 degrees, and the heat and humidity index... 1350 01:22:46,128 --> 01:22:48,297 ...I can't even remember what the radio said. 1351 01:22:48,464 --> 01:22:51,884 We were next in line and the mare collapsed, went down in a heap. 1352 01:22:52,050 --> 01:22:55,971 Ginger was eating Ye Olde Drumstick and she dropped it. The kids were crying. 1353 01:22:56,138 --> 01:23:00,017 And I remember this farmer saying he had a gun in his truck. Just like that. 1354 01:23:00,184 --> 01:23:02,603 From the white knight to a gun in the truck. 1355 01:23:02,769 --> 01:23:05,230 They had everyone turn before they put the animal down. 1356 01:23:05,397 --> 01:23:08,233 But even if you couldn't see, you could still hear. 1357 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,360 How do you get that back? 1358 01:23:10,527 --> 01:23:12,571 How does that get to be fair? 1359 01:23:13,489 --> 01:23:16,074 GINGER: Well, he just kept buying things. 1360 01:23:16,909 --> 01:23:18,911 We had eight cars. 1361 01:23:19,912 --> 01:23:22,414 Three of them we never even used. 1362 01:23:24,416 --> 01:23:26,168 And how else has he changed? 1363 01:23:28,462 --> 01:23:31,590 Well, I was always the one with the temper. 1364 01:23:31,757 --> 01:23:36,011 - Mm-hm. - And Corky was the happy one. 1365 01:23:36,178 --> 01:23:37,763 But that's changed too. 1366 01:23:37,930 --> 01:23:41,225 - There's one in Hong Kong. MILLER: Mm-hm. 1367 01:23:41,391 --> 01:23:44,186 Then there are the accounts in Switzerland and Grand Cayman. 1368 01:23:44,353 --> 01:23:45,812 Right, right. 1369 01:23:45,979 --> 01:23:50,067 Other things. There's a lawyer in New York who's got a million dollars of mine. 1370 01:23:50,234 --> 01:23:52,444 Have you told your attorney about these? 1371 01:23:52,611 --> 01:23:55,197 No, I don't need to tell... 1372 01:23:57,282 --> 01:24:00,452 Mark, you need to tell your attorney about these accounts. 1373 01:24:00,619 --> 01:24:04,373 The assets were obtained legally. I don't even know if I can trust him. 1374 01:24:04,540 --> 01:24:08,126 Has anyone in your family ever been diagnosed with bipolar disorder? 1375 01:24:08,293 --> 01:24:10,420 You know, manic depressive? 1376 01:24:14,550 --> 01:24:16,927 I have an aunt that they used to say that about. 1377 01:24:17,094 --> 01:24:18,595 Yeah? 1378 01:24:19,304 --> 01:24:21,640 In terms of my parents, I can't be sure. 1379 01:24:21,807 --> 01:24:25,310 My parents died in an automobile accident when I was 6. 1380 01:24:25,477 --> 01:24:29,690 I was adopted by a wealthy man in Ohio. He owned amusement parks. 1381 01:24:30,190 --> 01:24:32,651 I caught a big break there, big break. 1382 01:24:33,235 --> 01:24:35,445 So my client's here to cooperate fully. 1383 01:24:35,612 --> 01:24:38,073 Agent D'Angel0, if you have any questions. 1384 01:24:39,074 --> 01:24:42,077 This is your chance to put everything on the table. 1385 01:24:42,327 --> 01:24:44,329 This is your chance to redeem yourself. 1386 01:24:44,496 --> 01:24:48,750 But if you're not going to be completely honest, just stop talking now. 1387 01:24:49,585 --> 01:24:51,670 I understand that. 1388 01:24:53,589 --> 01:24:55,632 I just want to tell you I feel... 1389 01:24:56,675 --> 01:24:59,011 ...bad. I'm so sorry. 1390 01:25:01,388 --> 01:25:04,600 The last time we spoke, I was under a great deal of stress. 1391 01:25:04,766 --> 01:25:07,227 And I said some things that weren't true. 1392 01:25:09,187 --> 01:25:10,856 I want to clear that up. 1393 01:25:12,357 --> 01:25:16,069 The first kickback was in 1992. 1394 01:25:16,236 --> 01:25:18,530 Mick knew all about it. 1395 01:25:18,697 --> 01:25:21,700 He told me there were gonna be opportunities to take kickbacks... 1396 01:25:21,867 --> 01:25:24,703 ...on some of the contracts coming out of Asia and Europe... 1397 01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:27,289 ...that were ADM contracts. 1398 01:25:29,458 --> 01:25:31,460 Was there anyone else involved? 1399 01:25:33,462 --> 01:25:36,632 BASSET: So, Mr. Richter, we have... 1400 01:25:36,798 --> 01:25:41,887 ...money leaving your account here and here... 1401 01:25:42,054 --> 01:25:43,722 ...and here. 1402 01:25:43,889 --> 01:25:48,477 And it's going into Whitacre's account... 1403 01:25:48,644 --> 01:25:51,229 ...his wife Ginger's account... 1404 01:25:51,396 --> 01:25:54,232 ...and this is going to Whitacre's parents' account. 1405 01:25:55,317 --> 01:25:57,861 Like I said, those are loans. 1406 01:25:58,487 --> 01:25:59,655 Uh-huh. 1407 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,326 He had me set up a company, Nordkron Chemie... 1408 01:26:04,493 --> 01:26:08,914 ...and just, like, issue these fake invoices to ADM. 1409 01:26:09,081 --> 01:26:11,583 And there was a bank account in Hamburg... 1410 01:26:12,668 --> 01:26:16,088 ...and so I would get a check for like two hundred grand... 1411 01:26:16,254 --> 01:26:18,840 ...and most of it would go back to Mark. 1412 01:26:19,925 --> 01:26:22,427 Ahem. Okay, look. 1413 01:26:23,804 --> 01:26:26,765 We know you're looking out for your friend Mark... 1414 01:26:27,641 --> 01:26:29,601 ...but your story doesn't seem true. 1415 01:26:32,688 --> 01:26:35,148 You're right, it's not true. 1416 01:26:35,315 --> 01:26:37,109 All the money went to Mark. 1417 01:26:37,275 --> 01:26:39,152 When did it start? 1418 01:26:39,319 --> 01:26:42,948 Mark told me about this Nigerian thing he got in the mail. 1419 01:26:43,448 --> 01:26:46,910 You know about these schemes with the Nigerian letters? 1420 01:26:47,077 --> 01:26:49,955 The 419 fraud? Yeah, we see it every day. 1421 01:26:50,122 --> 01:26:54,626 You get a letter from some official in Nigeria asking for a few grand to help. 1422 01:26:54,793 --> 01:26:57,796 - They promise a percentage of the money. - Exactly. 1423 01:26:58,338 --> 01:27:02,259 You ever wonder who was dumb enough to fall for something like that? 1424 01:27:05,095 --> 01:27:07,264 This is really embarrassing. 1425 01:27:08,890 --> 01:27:12,728 So how much money would you say you made from your illegal activities? 1426 01:27:15,063 --> 01:27:17,149 Uh... 1427 01:27:20,986 --> 01:27:23,780 Seven-point-seven million dollars. 1428 01:27:25,574 --> 01:27:28,535 But like I said, Mick knew all about that, you know? 1429 01:27:28,702 --> 01:27:30,662 He endorsed that kind of behavior. 1430 01:27:31,997 --> 01:27:34,958 So not five, but seven-point-seven? 1431 01:27:35,125 --> 01:27:36,334 Seven-point-seven. 1432 01:27:36,501 --> 01:27:40,756 Jim, we all understand special consideration, but we've got your guy. 1433 01:27:40,922 --> 01:27:43,925 And these are cases we know we can convict. 1434 01:27:44,092 --> 01:27:47,179 Forty-five counts of wire fraud... 1435 01:27:47,345 --> 01:27:50,015 ...and money laundering and tax evasion. 1436 01:27:50,182 --> 01:27:52,976 So explain to us, where is the wiggle room? 1437 01:27:53,143 --> 01:27:58,356 I'm not stupid. Mark committed a crime. He stole nine million dollars. 1438 01:27:58,815 --> 01:28:00,358 That's pretty indefensible. 1439 01:28:00,525 --> 01:28:03,945 But these guys at ADM, they stole hundreds of millions of dollars... 1440 01:28:04,112 --> 01:28:06,323 ...from innocent people all around the world. 1441 01:28:06,490 --> 01:28:09,409 Mark showed that white guys in suits getting together... 1442 01:28:09,576 --> 01:28:11,703 ...that's not a meeting, it's a crime scene. 1443 01:28:11,870 --> 01:28:15,874 And not only did he tell you about it, he got the evidence to prove it. Ha. 1444 01:28:16,041 --> 01:28:20,545 When agents go undercover for the FBI, they get trained for the stresses. 1445 01:28:20,754 --> 01:28:24,466 We hear this all the time. How easy it is for a trained agent to crack. 1446 01:28:24,633 --> 01:28:29,054 I mean, here's Mark, a civilian, with no training. 1447 01:28:29,763 --> 01:28:31,640 But you guys just shove him in there. 1448 01:28:31,807 --> 01:28:36,311 You tell him to go for it without any training to make sure he doesn't crack. 1449 01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:50,408 Ah! Baby. 1450 01:28:50,575 --> 01:28:52,661 [GRUNTING] 1451 01:28:52,828 --> 01:28:54,412 Ginger. 1452 01:28:58,208 --> 01:28:59,751 Ginger. 1453 01:29:02,796 --> 01:29:04,005 They kidnapped me. 1454 01:29:04,172 --> 01:29:06,883 They put me in a car. They drove me around for 20 minutes. 1455 01:29:07,050 --> 01:29:08,885 - They wouldn't let me out. - Oh, my gosh. 1456 01:29:09,052 --> 01:29:11,137 - My leg. - Oh, Mark. 1457 01:29:11,304 --> 01:29:13,265 It's all cramped. 1458 01:29:13,723 --> 01:29:15,267 Who did this? Who took you? 1459 01:29:15,433 --> 01:29:20,105 It's obvious. Look at my jacket. These people mean business. 1460 01:29:20,647 --> 01:29:21,857 MARK: I was abducted. 1461 01:29:22,023 --> 01:29:26,695 I was thrown into the back of a light-brown Dodge Dynasty... 1462 01:29:26,862 --> 01:29:29,614 ...by two thugs... 1463 01:29:29,781 --> 01:29:33,410 ...and driven around in a 20-minute joyride. 1464 01:29:34,077 --> 01:29:36,371 And basically, I was told... 1465 01:29:36,538 --> 01:29:39,666 ...you know, forget everything that isn't on tape... 1466 01:29:39,833 --> 01:29:45,213 ...and you can forget about bringing it up in a courtroom or for the media. 1467 01:29:45,380 --> 01:29:47,591 Did the men identify themselves? 1468 01:29:47,757 --> 01:29:50,218 I think we know who sent them. 1469 01:29:50,385 --> 01:29:54,639 GINGER: And they sawed the locks off the door, like Mafia thugs. 1470 01:29:54,806 --> 01:29:57,809 Yeah, on each side, so I was trapped. 1471 01:29:57,976 --> 01:30:01,313 NEWSMAN: You were trapped. You couldn't roll down the window. 1472 01:30:01,605 --> 01:30:02,981 MARK: No. 1473 01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:05,942 NEWSMAN: Where was the FBI in all of this? 1474 01:30:06,610 --> 01:30:10,155 GINGER: Well, I think-- We think people have to realize... 1475 01:30:10,322 --> 01:30:13,950 ...that the FBI did the same thing. 1476 01:30:14,117 --> 01:30:17,120 I mean, they locked my husband in an investigation... 1477 01:30:17,287 --> 01:30:20,624 ...and they drove our family around for three years. 1478 01:30:20,790 --> 01:30:23,627 - Three to five years? - Yes. 1479 01:30:23,793 --> 01:30:27,631 In jail? But ADM's the bad guys. 1480 01:30:27,797 --> 01:30:32,510 Everywhere we go, it's the same story. It's just dump on Mark Whitacre. 1481 01:30:32,677 --> 01:30:34,137 You gotta focus here. 1482 01:30:34,304 --> 01:30:38,266 You stole $9 million, and then you lied about it. 1483 01:30:38,850 --> 01:30:40,352 Maybe in your head, you're good. 1484 01:30:40,518 --> 01:30:44,022 To them, you're a guy who stole a lot of money, and then lied about it. 1485 01:30:44,731 --> 01:30:47,734 Ginger and I have been talking and we'd like to file a lawsuit... 1486 01:30:47,984 --> 01:30:50,779 ...against Brian Shepard and the United States government. 1487 01:30:50,946 --> 01:30:53,448 Oh, my God. For what, Mark? 1488 01:30:53,615 --> 01:30:55,367 He hit me with a briefcase. 1489 01:30:58,119 --> 01:30:59,162 Mark, come on. 1490 01:31:01,414 --> 01:31:05,293 And he told me to destroy tapes that didn't help the case. 1491 01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:06,920 Why would Brian Shepard do that? 1492 01:31:07,087 --> 01:31:11,508 Maybe the question you should be asking yourself is, what is Brian Shepard hiding? 1493 01:31:12,509 --> 01:31:15,178 All right. I'm telling you, okay? 1494 01:31:15,345 --> 01:31:17,222 Take the plea. 1495 01:31:18,181 --> 01:31:19,557 [SCOFFS] 1496 01:31:22,185 --> 01:31:24,521 Thanks, Jim, but... 1497 01:31:24,688 --> 01:31:26,815 ...we're gonna go a different way. 1498 01:31:29,943 --> 01:31:31,486 MAN: Evelyn? EVELYN: What? 1499 01:31:31,653 --> 01:31:34,781 MAN: There's a reporter from the Washington Post. 1500 01:31:34,948 --> 01:31:37,075 Has some questions about Corky. 1501 01:31:37,867 --> 01:31:39,577 A reporter. 1502 01:31:42,205 --> 01:31:44,207 EVELYN". This is Evelyn Whitacre. 1503 01:31:46,167 --> 01:31:48,420 What do you mean, adopted? 1504 01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:53,091 Well, as his mother, I can assure you... 1505 01:31:53,258 --> 01:31:57,762 ...that my husband and I were not killed in a car accident... 1506 01:31:57,929 --> 01:32:01,307 ...and Mark was not adopted by wealthy people. 1507 01:32:06,563 --> 01:32:11,443 Mark's been telling people that you and I were killed in a car accident... 1508 01:32:11,609 --> 01:32:14,738 ...and he was adopted by rich people. 1509 01:32:15,488 --> 01:32:17,073 What do you make of that? 1510 01:32:20,577 --> 01:32:22,662 That's kind of weird. 1511 01:32:23,747 --> 01:32:27,417 MARK: I read this study in TIME magazine when I was at Cornell. 1512 01:32:27,584 --> 01:32:30,211 There were people who never believed I would make it... 1513 01:32:30,378 --> 01:32:32,464 ...into an Ivy League school. Maybe Ginger... 1514 01:32:32,630 --> 01:32:34,424 ...who I met in the 8th grade. 1515 01:32:34,591 --> 01:32:37,635 And the study said that people had nice, sympathetic feelings... 1516 01:32:37,802 --> 01:32:40,638 ...about people who were adopted, and treated them better. 1517 01:32:40,805 --> 01:32:43,767 So I made up this adoption story and people did treat me better. 1518 01:32:43,933 --> 01:32:47,187 When I got a job, one of my professors told people at Ralston Purina... 1519 01:32:47,353 --> 01:32:51,066 ...I was this guy that had accomplished all of this in spite of being adopted. 1520 01:32:51,232 --> 01:32:53,985 So it was really other people who spread the story, not me. 1521 01:32:54,152 --> 01:32:57,822 I admit it was wrong to start it, it was other people who kept it going. 1522 01:32:57,989 --> 01:32:59,532 Even the people at ADM. 1523 01:32:59,699 --> 01:33:01,326 My new lawyer sees that. 1524 01:33:02,535 --> 01:33:06,456 Tsk. This all goes back many years... 1525 01:33:07,290 --> 01:33:09,959 ...before most of us were born. 1526 01:33:10,126 --> 01:33:13,338 It's bigger than any of us... 1527 01:33:13,505 --> 01:33:15,090 ...and it's ongoing. 1528 01:33:16,299 --> 01:33:19,052 I know you're skeptical, but I've seen it. 1529 01:33:19,219 --> 01:33:23,348 My client, Mark Whitacre, has shown it to me. 1530 01:33:24,140 --> 01:33:29,145 Maybe I am just a personal-injury lawyer from Taylorville, "Nowhere" Illinois... 1531 01:33:30,021 --> 01:33:31,898 ...but I tell you... 1532 01:33:32,065 --> 01:33:36,277 ...I know the identity of the master puppeteer. 1533 01:33:38,988 --> 01:33:42,534 - The who? - The master puppeteer. 1534 01:33:42,700 --> 01:33:44,327 And it's not who you're thinking. 1535 01:33:44,494 --> 01:33:49,207 Mark has tapes, tapes that the government doesn't want us to hear. 1536 01:33:49,374 --> 01:33:52,669 Tapes that outline the actions of Brian Shepard... 1537 01:33:52,836 --> 01:33:55,255 ...who hit Mark Whitacre with a briefcase... 1538 01:33:55,421 --> 01:33:58,174 ...while Mark was cooperating with the government. 1539 01:33:58,341 --> 01:34:01,678 My client has a letter from his psychiatrist... 1540 01:34:01,928 --> 01:34:08,393 ...outlining and confirming the cruelty perpetrated on him by Brian Shepard. 1541 01:34:09,185 --> 01:34:14,941 A letter from his psychiatrist clearly exonerating my client from all wrongdoing. 1542 01:34:17,735 --> 01:34:21,698 "It is obvious that the FBI made some grand mistakes... 1543 01:34:21,865 --> 01:34:24,617 ...in how they handled and treated you." There's a phrase-- 1544 01:34:24,784 --> 01:34:27,745 "Grand mistakes." --coming from a doctor. 1545 01:34:27,912 --> 01:34:30,415 "When one discusses suicide, this is a red flag. 1546 01:34:30,582 --> 01:34:33,877 When one discusses how they will do it, then it is very, very serious. 1547 01:34:34,043 --> 01:34:37,547 I also feel that the FBI requiring you to do unethical conduct... 1548 01:34:37,714 --> 01:34:39,966 ...against ADM was another blunder... 1549 01:34:40,216 --> 01:34:43,178 ...that forced you into a bipolar situation. 1550 01:34:43,344 --> 01:34:46,764 They should have known better and noted that a medical problem exists. 1551 01:34:46,931 --> 01:34:51,895 From a medical point of view, this is attempted murder that the FBI did to you. 1552 01:34:52,061 --> 01:34:55,106 From a legal view, your lawyer needs to decide what to do... 1553 01:34:55,273 --> 01:34:58,526 ...and what the terminology is. I'll support you in whatever you need. 1554 01:34:58,693 --> 01:35:02,197 You and your family have been through too much turmoil with the government. 1555 01:35:02,363 --> 01:35:03,948 They should know better." 1556 01:35:05,950 --> 01:35:07,952 That's Dr. Miller. 1557 01:35:08,786 --> 01:35:10,955 SHEPARD: I read the letter, Mark. 1558 01:35:11,915 --> 01:35:14,292 The problem with the letter is... 1559 01:35:15,251 --> 01:35:16,920 ...it's a lie. 1560 01:35:17,921 --> 01:35:19,631 MARK: What are you talking about, Brian? 1561 01:35:20,131 --> 01:35:23,635 It's on his letterhead. That's his signature. 1562 01:35:23,801 --> 01:35:27,555 - What are you talking about? - The area code, Mark. 1563 01:35:28,348 --> 01:35:32,644 In the letterhead? The area code 847? 1564 01:35:33,561 --> 01:35:36,648 This letter was written in November 1995. 1565 01:35:36,814 --> 01:35:39,943 That area code didn't exist then. 1566 01:35:42,612 --> 01:35:47,450 Okay, but they announced that the change was coming. I even remember that. 1567 01:35:47,617 --> 01:35:51,829 - People order their stationery early. SHEPARD: I thought about that. 1568 01:35:51,996 --> 01:35:53,915 So I asked the phone company. 1569 01:35:57,460 --> 01:36:02,674 This is the press release announcing the new 847 area code. 1570 01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:06,844 It's dated six days after your letter was written. 1571 01:36:07,011 --> 01:36:10,348 Miller could not have known about it. 1572 01:36:15,144 --> 01:36:18,690 MARK: Ron Henkoff from Fortune called Dr. Miller and Miller confirmed the letter. 1573 01:36:18,856 --> 01:36:20,984 If you talk to Henkoff... 1574 01:36:24,529 --> 01:36:28,366 Ron Henkoff from Fortune magazine... 1575 01:36:29,659 --> 01:36:32,495 ...verified the letter with Dr. Miller. 1576 01:36:32,662 --> 01:36:35,623 - I talked to Dr. Miller, Mark. MARK: You can't-- 1577 01:36:35,790 --> 01:36:38,459 MARK: That's a violation of my doctor-patient confidentiality. 1578 01:36:38,626 --> 01:36:43,548 That's a total violation of my doctor-patient confidentiality. You can't call Miller. 1579 01:36:43,715 --> 01:36:48,136 Doctor-patient confidentiality doesn't apply to forgeries. 1580 01:36:48,303 --> 01:36:52,056 Then why did Fortune magazine run the story? 1581 01:36:52,223 --> 01:36:55,351 Well, why would Ron Henkoff, for Fortune magazine... 1582 01:36:55,518 --> 01:36:57,687 ...put it in a cover story? 1583 01:36:57,854 --> 01:36:59,230 Stop it, Mark. 1584 01:37:00,189 --> 01:37:02,525 Henk-- If you talk to Henkoff-- 1585 01:37:02,692 --> 01:37:04,986 You need to stop doing this to yourself. 1586 01:37:07,238 --> 01:37:10,199 Why do you--? Why do you keep lying? 1587 01:37:12,785 --> 01:37:14,704 I don't know. 1588 01:37:21,502 --> 01:37:24,672 Well, I think maybe I should go back to the hospital. 1589 01:37:29,969 --> 01:37:36,726 WOMAN". Case 97-2001, United States of America v. Mark Whitacre. 1590 01:37:37,894 --> 01:37:40,438 You have a right to make a statement, if you wish. 1591 01:37:45,818 --> 01:37:47,278 Thank you. 1592 01:37:49,322 --> 01:37:54,118 Uh... I really appreciate the opportunity... 1593 01:37:54,285 --> 01:37:58,498 ...to get up here and say a few words. Um... 1594 01:38:01,626 --> 01:38:03,169 Wow. 1595 01:38:03,961 --> 01:38:05,463 What a ride. 1596 01:38:06,047 --> 01:38:07,465 Um... 1597 01:38:08,007 --> 01:38:09,801 Been a long five years. 1598 01:38:11,594 --> 01:38:13,471 A lot of memories. 1599 01:38:15,598 --> 01:38:19,811 I just really want to apologize to a lot of people in this room... 1600 01:38:19,977 --> 01:38:23,815 ...and a lot of people who aren't in this room, um... 1601 01:38:24,607 --> 01:38:26,776 ...for my actions. 1602 01:38:27,860 --> 01:38:30,113 I'm on medication now... 1603 01:38:30,279 --> 01:38:33,991 ...so I'm seeing things a lot more clearly. 1604 01:38:34,158 --> 01:38:37,954 And I just really want to... 1605 01:38:38,121 --> 01:38:40,915 I realize I hurt a lot of people, and so I want to say: 1606 01:38:41,082 --> 01:38:43,668 I'm so, so, so sorry. I greatly apologize... 1607 01:38:44,293 --> 01:38:49,006 ...and accept responsibility for my actions. That's it. 1608 01:38:49,173 --> 01:38:50,925 Thank you. 1609 01:38:52,969 --> 01:38:58,599 To observe that Mr. Whitacre is not the usual felon is a gross understatement. 1610 01:38:59,308 --> 01:39:00,852 He's well-educated... 1611 01:39:01,018 --> 01:39:05,648 ...has a loving wife and family, is well-respected in the community. 1612 01:39:05,815 --> 01:39:08,359 It's not inconceivable that, in due course... 1613 01:39:08,526 --> 01:39:13,531 ...he could have been CEO of Archer Daniels Midland. 1614 01:39:13,698 --> 01:39:17,118 However, this court... 1615 01:39:18,077 --> 01:39:22,206 ...can find no clear connection between Mr. Whitacre's bipolar disorder... 1616 01:39:22,373 --> 01:39:26,252 ...and the 45 counts of criminal misconduct he's been charged with... 1617 01:39:26,419 --> 01:39:28,129 ...just garden-variety greed. 1618 01:39:28,296 --> 01:39:31,757 It's very difficult to tell when Mr. Whitacre is telling the truth. 1619 01:39:33,342 --> 01:39:35,094 I don't think what happened is fair... 1620 01:39:35,261 --> 01:39:38,306 ...when you look at me compared to Mick and Terry. 1621 01:39:39,682 --> 01:39:42,393 If you go and hold up your local grocery store... 1622 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,520 ...you get maybe five years in prison. 1623 01:39:44,687 --> 01:39:49,775 Mick and Terry held up every grocery store in the world and they got three. 1624 01:39:50,026 --> 01:39:53,237 So you tell me how it makes sense that I get nine. 1625 01:39:54,155 --> 01:39:56,073 You should consider that, Mr. President... 1626 01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:59,035 ...when reviewing this request for pardon. 1627 01:39:59,452 --> 01:40:01,454 I'd also like to take this opportunity... 1628 01:40:01,621 --> 01:40:05,041 ...to apologize on behalf of myself and my wife, Ginger... 1629 01:40:05,208 --> 01:40:07,084 ...to Special Agent Brian Shepard. 1630 01:40:07,251 --> 01:40:11,589 He never hit me with a briefcase or told me to destroy tapes. 1631 01:40:11,756 --> 01:40:16,469 The idea to sue him came from someone inside ADM. 1632 01:40:16,636 --> 01:40:19,430 I shouldn't have listened. I don't even remember who it was. 1633 01:40:20,389 --> 01:40:25,436 While I was there at ADM, I lived so many lives, I didn't really know who I was. 1634 01:40:26,145 --> 01:40:31,108 And I know today more who I am and what I really want out of life. 1635 01:40:31,275 --> 01:40:36,364 I've completed three postgraduate degrees while in detention... 1636 01:40:36,531 --> 01:40:39,408 ...a J.D., which is, of course, a law degree... 1637 01:40:39,575 --> 01:40:42,787 ...another advanced degree in the psychology of jury selection. 1638 01:40:43,329 --> 01:40:46,624 I sleep better here in prison than I have in years. 1639 01:40:46,791 --> 01:40:49,877 My wife, Ginger, has forgiven me. 1640 01:40:50,670 --> 01:40:53,172 She actually believes that this incident with ADM... 1641 01:40:53,422 --> 01:40:57,468 ...brought us closer together in a marriage of over 20 years. 1642 01:40:57,885 --> 01:40:59,845 And I hope you'll allow me to leave here... 1643 01:41:00,012 --> 01:41:03,724 ...so that I can rejoin that life with my family, my three kids... 1644 01:41:03,891 --> 01:41:05,268 ...two of whom are adopted. 1645 01:41:05,768 --> 01:41:09,730 Especially in light of the fact that in large part because of my testimony... 1646 01:41:09,897 --> 01:41:13,025 ...the United States government has to date been able to collect... 1647 01:41:13,192 --> 01:41:17,154 ...over one billion dollars in price-fixing fines from big businesses. 1648 01:41:17,947 --> 01:41:20,783 So that's it. Thanks. 1649 01:41:31,669 --> 01:41:33,462 Good luck with the pardon, Mark. 1650 01:41:33,629 --> 01:41:37,133 Thanks, Bob. Thanks for helping me remember everything. 1651 01:41:37,300 --> 01:41:39,218 I wish Brian could have come. 1652 01:41:39,468 --> 01:41:43,222 - Well, he's still pretty angry. - Yeah. 1653 01:41:43,389 --> 01:41:46,726 Well, tell him I'm real sorry. Will you do that? 1654 01:41:46,892 --> 01:41:48,185 Sure, Mark. 1655 01:41:48,352 --> 01:41:50,688 The irony is if I hadn't gone undercover... 1656 01:41:50,855 --> 01:41:54,483 ...I never would have stole the 11 and a half million. It was my way out. 1657 01:41:54,650 --> 01:41:57,987 It was my severance. What else was I gonna do? I had to write my own. 1658 01:41:58,154 --> 01:41:59,655 MAN: Work detail. 1659 01:42:00,323 --> 01:42:01,657 See you, Bob. 1660 01:42:01,907 --> 01:42:04,702 - Uh-uh-- Uh-uh-- Eleven and a half million? - What? 1661 01:42:04,869 --> 01:42:06,787 I thought it was nine and a half. 1662 01:42:06,954 --> 01:42:09,707 - What did I say? - You said 11 and a half. 1663 01:42:09,874 --> 01:42:13,711 You do know that the people at ADM think you were the mole. 1664 01:42:13,878 --> 01:42:17,256 That you planted the virus, then made it go away. 1665 01:42:17,506 --> 01:42:20,384 The 11 and a half is with the interest. 1666 01:42:21,344 --> 01:42:24,347 Mark, is it nine and a half or 11 and a half? 1667 01:42:24,513 --> 01:42:25,556 [MARK slel-ls] 1668 01:42:25,723 --> 01:42:27,433 I don't know, Bob. 1669 01:42:28,517 --> 01:42:29,727 You tell me. 1670 01:42:40,863 --> 01:42:42,239 [DOOR CLOSES] 1671 01:48:11,068 --> 01:48:13,070 142459

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