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A DRUG. 3 00:00:11,345 --> 00:00:14,815 I WANTED TO BE PART OF THE-- THAT "STAR WARS" UNIVERSE, 4 00:00:14,848 --> 00:00:17,085 AND I REALLY FELT LIKE HAVING THE TOYS 5 00:00:17,118 --> 00:00:18,652 WAS THE WAY TO DO IT. 6 00:00:18,686 --> 00:00:20,521 IF YOU ASKED ME WHAT OTHER TOYS 7 00:00:20,554 --> 00:00:21,789 OR THINGS I WAS INTO 8 00:00:21,822 --> 00:00:24,358 IN, SAY, FIRST THROUGH THIRD GRADE, 9 00:00:24,392 --> 00:00:26,660 I GOT NOTHIN'. 10 00:00:26,694 --> 00:00:30,398 * PAST THE OCEANS FAR BELOW * 11 00:00:30,431 --> 00:00:34,602 * THROUGH THE STARS AND HEAVEN'S GLOW * 12 00:00:34,635 --> 00:00:37,771 * TAKE US FROM THIS OVERLOAD * 13 00:00:37,805 --> 00:00:42,376 * ON THESE ROCKETS 14 00:00:42,410 --> 00:00:46,347 * PAST THE OCEANS FAR BELOW * 15 00:00:46,380 --> 00:00:50,384 * THROUGH THE STARS AND HEAVEN'S GLOW * 16 00:00:50,418 --> 00:00:53,721 * TAKE US FROM THIS OVERLOAD * 17 00:00:53,754 --> 00:00:56,490 * ON THESE ROCKETS 18 00:01:03,131 --> 00:01:05,699 * AH AH AH AH 19 00:01:05,733 --> 00:01:08,269 * ON THESE ROCKETS 20 00:01:10,804 --> 00:01:13,641 * AH AH AH AH * 21 00:01:17,278 --> 00:01:19,213 90% OF THE TOYS I HAD AS A CHILD 22 00:01:19,247 --> 00:01:20,348 WERE "STAR WARS" RELATED. 23 00:01:20,381 --> 00:01:22,250 SO, RIGHT FROM THE GET-GO, 24 00:01:22,283 --> 00:01:24,452 IT DOMINATED MY INTEREST MORE THAN THE OTHER, UM, 25 00:01:24,485 --> 00:01:26,554 CARTOONS AND TOY LINES THAT WERE SORT OF 26 00:01:26,587 --> 00:01:29,123 VYING FOR THE ATTENTION OF YOUR AVERAGE KID 27 00:01:29,157 --> 00:01:30,458 GROWING UP IN THE EARLY '80S. 28 00:01:30,491 --> 00:01:32,826 THESE WERE SOMETHING 29 00:01:32,860 --> 00:01:35,463 THAT ENABLED YOU TO CREATE A WORLD 30 00:01:35,496 --> 00:01:36,864 AND PLAY IN THERE. 31 00:01:36,897 --> 00:01:38,332 THERE WERE NO TOYS LIKE THAT. 32 00:01:38,366 --> 00:01:40,601 THERE WAS NO TOY LINE THAT I CAN REMEMBER. 33 00:01:40,634 --> 00:01:44,872 THE UNIVERSE LENT ITSELF TO REALLY FANTASTIC 34 00:01:44,905 --> 00:01:46,474 AND INTERESTING AND-- 35 00:01:46,507 --> 00:01:49,210 AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CRAZY STORIES 36 00:01:49,243 --> 00:01:52,280 WITH WEIRD CHARACTERS AND NEW PLANETS, 37 00:01:52,313 --> 00:01:53,881 AND I THINK THAT REALLY JUST GRABBED ON 38 00:01:53,914 --> 00:01:55,383 TO KIDS' IMAGINATION. 39 00:01:55,416 --> 00:01:57,885 HAVING ONE OF THE "STAR WARS" ACTION FIGURES 40 00:01:57,918 --> 00:02:00,554 IN MY-- IN MY HAND WAS ABOUT AS CLOSE 41 00:02:00,588 --> 00:02:02,690 TO HAVING ONE OF THE CHARACTERS IN MY ROOM. 42 00:02:02,723 --> 00:02:05,293 YOU KNOW, HAVING 3PO ON MY TABLE, 43 00:02:05,326 --> 00:02:07,428 SITTING THERE WITH R2-D2 NEXT TO HIM. 44 00:02:07,461 --> 00:02:09,363 IN THE LATE '70S AND EARLY '80S, 45 00:02:09,397 --> 00:02:11,732 YOU WEREN'T GONNA SEE THE MOVIES OVER AND OVER. 46 00:02:11,765 --> 00:02:15,169 FOR A LOT OF KIDS, THE TOYS, I THINK, 47 00:02:15,203 --> 00:02:17,438 BECAME MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE MOVIES 48 00:02:17,471 --> 00:02:19,173 BECAUSE THEY WERE GONNA GET TO PLAY WITH THE TOYS 49 00:02:19,207 --> 00:02:20,641 NEARLY EVERY DAY. 50 00:02:20,674 --> 00:02:23,644 THEY WERE GONNA GET TO TALK ABOUT THE TOYS NEARLY EVERY DAY. 51 00:02:23,677 --> 00:02:26,180 (BOOTH) YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE GOING OVER TO YOUR FRIENDS HOUSE, 52 00:02:26,214 --> 00:02:27,581 YOU ALMOST DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK, 53 00:02:27,615 --> 00:02:29,550 "DO I NEED TO BRING MY 'STAR WARS' GUYS?" 54 00:02:29,583 --> 00:02:31,952 YOU KNOW, YOU JUST SHOWED UP WITH 'EM. 55 00:02:31,985 --> 00:02:33,787 ONCE PARENTS CAME INTO A ROOM, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" 56 00:02:33,821 --> 00:02:35,423 "WE'RE PLAYING 'STAR WARS.' 57 00:02:35,456 --> 00:02:37,958 SEE, HAMMERHEAD, HE'S FROM--" 58 00:02:37,991 --> 00:02:39,527 "OKAY, WE'LL LEAVE YOU ALONE." 59 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,329 THE PARENTS WOULD NOT BOTHER YOU FOR TWO HOURS 60 00:02:41,362 --> 00:02:43,397 'CAUSE THEY KNEW YOU WERE IN ANOTHER UNIVERSE. 61 00:02:43,431 --> 00:02:44,665 WE WERE PRETTY ROUGH WITH THEM. 62 00:02:44,698 --> 00:02:46,467 WE USED TO LIKE TO BUILD A LOT OF DIFFERENT FORTS 63 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:48,902 AND BASES OUT OF, YOU KNOW, CARDBOARD BOXES AND BRICKS 64 00:02:48,936 --> 00:02:49,937 OR WHATEVER ELSE WE COULD FIND, 65 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:51,672 UM, TO PLAY WITH. 66 00:02:51,705 --> 00:02:54,275 THEY WERE SORT OF THE MODERN, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, ARMY GUYS. 67 00:02:54,308 --> 00:02:55,743 YOU KNOW, SETTING UP THE BATTLES. 68 00:02:55,776 --> 00:02:57,545 PEW, PEW, PEW, PEW! 69 00:02:57,578 --> 00:02:59,780 MY REWARDS TENDED TO BE "STAR WARS" RELATED. 70 00:02:59,813 --> 00:03:02,883 A DECENT REPORT CARD, MY DAD WOULD TAKE ME TO THE STORE 71 00:03:02,916 --> 00:03:04,485 AND LET ME PICK OUT A "STAR WARS" FIGURE. 72 00:03:04,518 --> 00:03:06,320 CHRISTMASES, BIRTHDAYS, THERE WAS ALWAYS 73 00:03:06,354 --> 00:03:08,356 SOME SORT OF "STAR WARS" TOY. 74 00:03:08,389 --> 00:03:10,891 I THINK "STAR WARS" SET NEW GROUND RULES 75 00:03:10,924 --> 00:03:13,994 FOR WHAT WAS COLLECTIBLE 76 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:17,865 AND THE EMERGENCE OF POPULAR CULTURE 77 00:03:17,898 --> 00:03:20,534 AS BEING A MAJOR PHENOMENON, 78 00:03:20,568 --> 00:03:24,272 CERTAINLY IN THE US AND THEN SPREADING ELSEWHERE. 79 00:03:24,305 --> 00:03:26,907 (SHARP) THIS IS SORT OF A FUNNY STORY. 80 00:03:26,940 --> 00:03:30,644 IN MY SCRAPBOOK, I HAVE, UH, THIS SIGN. 81 00:03:30,678 --> 00:03:34,415 WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER, I SOMETIMES DIDN'T ALWAYS 82 00:03:34,448 --> 00:03:35,649 LOCK THE DOOR TO THE HOUSE 83 00:03:35,683 --> 00:03:36,950 AND WOULD GET IN TROUBLE. 84 00:03:36,984 --> 00:03:39,387 SO, MY PARENTS WENT ON VACATION ONE WEEK, 85 00:03:39,420 --> 00:03:42,856 AND I CAME HOME, AND I SAW THIS SIGN 86 00:03:42,890 --> 00:03:45,659 TAPED TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THE HOUSE. 87 00:03:45,693 --> 00:03:46,927 "DEAR MR. BURGLAR, 88 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,862 "THE MOST VALUABLE PROPERTY IN THE HOUSE 89 00:03:48,896 --> 00:03:51,031 "IS THE OLD 'STAR WARS' TOY COLLECTION 90 00:03:51,064 --> 00:03:52,566 "ON THE 2ND FLOOR. 91 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,767 "HELP YOURSELF. 92 00:03:53,801 --> 00:03:55,603 DON'T FORGET THE LUCITE STAR!" 93 00:03:55,636 --> 00:03:58,339 (MILLER) SO, THESE ARE MY ORIGINAL LOOSE "STAR WARS" FIGURES. 94 00:03:58,372 --> 00:04:00,474 THIS IS MOST OF A SET IN THE CASE HERE. 95 00:04:00,508 --> 00:04:03,511 A LOT OF THESE ARE FROM WHEN I WAS A KID. 96 00:04:03,544 --> 00:04:04,878 THE SAME FIGURES I PLAYED WITH. 97 00:04:04,912 --> 00:04:06,347 ACTUALLY, I HAVE TWO LOOSE SETS. 98 00:04:06,380 --> 00:04:07,981 I ALWAYS HAD MINE THAT I KEPT 99 00:04:08,015 --> 00:04:11,652 AND, YOU KNOW, RE-ARMED AND KIND OF FINISHED OUT 100 00:04:11,685 --> 00:04:13,921 AS I GOT MORE SERIOUSLY INTO COLLECTING. 101 00:04:13,954 --> 00:04:15,389 AND THEN A FEW YEARS AGO, 102 00:04:15,423 --> 00:04:16,890 I GOT A BOX IN THE MAIL FROM MY BROTHER. 103 00:04:16,924 --> 00:04:18,992 HE ACTUALLY SENT ME A DARTH VADER CASE 104 00:04:19,026 --> 00:04:20,661 FULL OF HIS FIGURES FROM WHEN HE WAS A KID. 105 00:04:20,694 --> 00:04:23,030 YOU KNOW, I HAVE ONE SET TO PASS DOWN TO MY OLDER SON, 106 00:04:23,063 --> 00:04:24,998 AND ONE SET TO PASS DOWN TO MY YOUNGER SON. 107 00:04:25,032 --> 00:04:26,634 I'VE SINCE HAD A DAUGHTER AS WELL, 108 00:04:26,667 --> 00:04:28,702 SO NOW I'LL HAVE TO WORK ON A THIRD SET. 109 00:04:28,736 --> 00:04:32,072 FOR COLLECTORS THAT NOW COLLECT THE STUFF TODAY 110 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:34,908 THE CONNECTION THEY HAD AS A KID PLAYS A BIG PART 111 00:04:34,942 --> 00:04:37,010 IN WHY THEY COLLECT TODAY. 112 00:04:37,044 --> 00:04:39,947 EVERY KID AROUND MY AGE HAD "STAR WARS" TOYS. 113 00:04:39,980 --> 00:04:41,649 WHILE THERE'S A FINITE NUMBER OF PEOPLE 114 00:04:41,682 --> 00:04:43,717 THAT COLLECT THIS STUFF, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE 115 00:04:43,751 --> 00:04:44,985 THAT KNOW WHAT IT IS. 116 00:04:45,018 --> 00:04:47,054 THEY REALIZE THAT THIS STUFF HAS PLAYED 117 00:04:47,087 --> 00:04:48,922 SOME PART IN POPULAR CULTURE. 118 00:04:48,956 --> 00:04:50,691 WHETHER IT'S JUST CHILDREN'S TOYS 119 00:04:50,724 --> 00:04:53,994 OR THAT IT HAS SORT OF EVOLVED INTO ITS OWN HOBBY, 120 00:04:54,027 --> 00:04:56,430 I THINK MORE PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY AWARE OF THAT 121 00:04:56,464 --> 00:04:57,931 THAN WE GIVE CREDIT FOR. 122 00:04:57,965 --> 00:05:01,469 I DON'T THINK OUR CONNECTION WITH VINTAGE "STAR WARS" TOYS 123 00:05:01,502 --> 00:05:04,405 IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU HAD 124 00:05:04,438 --> 00:05:08,442 GONE TO YOUR DAD, YOU KNOW, 25 YEARS AGO 125 00:05:08,476 --> 00:05:09,977 AND HANDED HIM A STACK OF BASEBALL CARDS 126 00:05:10,010 --> 00:05:11,512 FROM THE '50S OR '60S. 127 00:05:11,545 --> 00:05:13,981 THE FACT THAT THESE PARTICULAR TOYS 128 00:05:14,014 --> 00:05:16,350 ARE TIED TO SOMETHING BIGGER, 129 00:05:16,384 --> 00:05:17,985 I THINK THAT'S A BIG PART 130 00:05:18,018 --> 00:05:21,021 OF WHERE THEIR STAYING POWER COMES FROM. 131 00:05:21,054 --> 00:05:23,691 "STAR WARS" REVOLUTIONIZED SO MANY THINGS. 132 00:05:23,724 --> 00:05:26,126 THE LIVED-IN UNIVERSE THAT LUCAS CREATED, 133 00:05:26,159 --> 00:05:29,096 TAKING THE EPIC HERO AND VILLAIN STORY 134 00:05:29,129 --> 00:05:31,899 AND PLACING THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF ANOTHER UNIVERSE 135 00:05:31,932 --> 00:05:34,835 CHANGED FILM, IT CHANGED THE TOY INDUSTRY FOREVER. 136 00:05:34,868 --> 00:05:37,671 YOU KNOW, IF YOU READ BOOKS ON THE TOY INDUSTRY 137 00:05:37,705 --> 00:05:39,440 THEY ALMOST ALWAYS WILL HAVE A CHAPTER 138 00:05:39,473 --> 00:05:40,808 THAT TALKS ABOUT "STAR WARS." 139 00:05:40,841 --> 00:05:44,478 IT IS A PROFOUND CHANGE TO THE TOY INDUSTRY. 140 00:05:44,512 --> 00:05:45,713 (FAWCETT) TO THE BEST OF OUR ESTIMATES, 141 00:05:45,746 --> 00:05:48,081 AND THERE ARE NO SOLID NUMBERS ON THIS, 142 00:05:48,115 --> 00:05:51,151 KENNER SOLD THREE QUARTERS OF A BILLION 143 00:05:51,184 --> 00:05:53,521 ACTION FIGURES. 144 00:05:53,554 --> 00:05:55,956 JUST WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND THAT. 145 00:05:59,026 --> 00:06:01,895 THAT'S A LOT OF TOYS. 146 00:06:07,435 --> 00:06:11,004 THERE HAD NEVER BEEN A SUCCESSFUL TOY LICENSE 147 00:06:11,038 --> 00:06:12,039 BASED ON A MOVIE. 148 00:06:12,072 --> 00:06:13,741 MOVIES CAME AND WENT. 149 00:06:13,774 --> 00:06:17,778 PLUS, THE LICENSING INDUSTRY AT THAT POINT WAS FAIRLY NEW. 150 00:06:17,811 --> 00:06:19,980 (LOPEZ) THERE HAD BEEN SOME TIE-INS OF MOVIES AND TOYS. 151 00:06:20,013 --> 00:06:22,049 SO THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF LIKE "PLANET OF THE APES" 152 00:06:22,082 --> 00:06:23,617 YEARS AFTER THE FILMS CAME OUT. 153 00:06:23,651 --> 00:06:27,855 NOBODY HAD REALLY DONE A MASSIVE TOY LINE 154 00:06:27,888 --> 00:06:29,557 AT THE RELEASE OF A FILM. 155 00:06:29,590 --> 00:06:31,692 YOU KNOW, I THINK SOMEWHERE IN GEORGE'S MIND, 156 00:06:31,725 --> 00:06:35,996 THE FEELING OF "STAR WARS" WAS ON THE 1930S SERIALS. 157 00:06:39,066 --> 00:06:40,568 AND THEY HAD BEEN MERCHANDISED. 158 00:06:40,601 --> 00:06:42,636 FOR ITS TIME IT WAS A GOOD SUCCESS. 159 00:06:42,670 --> 00:06:45,439 AND I GUESS THAT SOMEWHERE IN HIS MIND HE THOUGHT, 160 00:06:45,473 --> 00:06:47,207 "WELL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT 161 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:48,776 FOR "STAR WARS." 162 00:06:48,809 --> 00:06:52,546 SEND AWAY FOR A LUKE SKYWALKER DECODER RING. 163 00:06:57,150 --> 00:07:01,789 ** (20TH CENTURY FOX THEME) 164 00:07:06,860 --> 00:07:11,064 SO, LUCASFILM AND FOX, YOU KNOW, THE SENT OUT 165 00:07:11,098 --> 00:07:12,866 THE INFORMATION AND A SOLICITATION 166 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:15,469 TO ALL OF THE MAJOR TOY COMPANIES IN THE US. 167 00:07:15,503 --> 00:07:17,738 AND THAT INCLUDED MATTEL AND HASBRO. 168 00:07:17,771 --> 00:07:19,740 THEY DECIDED, AH, YOU KNOW, 169 00:07:19,773 --> 00:07:21,174 BY THE TIME WE WOULD GET THE TOYS OUT, 170 00:07:21,208 --> 00:07:23,511 NOBODY'S EVEN GONNA REMEMBER THIS MOVIE. 171 00:07:23,544 --> 00:07:25,913 AND SO THEY ALL PASSED. 172 00:07:25,946 --> 00:07:30,551 BUT THERE WAS THIS SECOND-TIER TOY COMPANY 173 00:07:30,584 --> 00:07:33,987 IN CINCINNATI CALLED KENNER PRODUCTS. 174 00:07:34,021 --> 00:07:36,490 THEY WERE KNOW FOR MAKING TOYS 175 00:07:36,524 --> 00:07:38,826 THAT KIND OF MIMICKED REAL-WORLD EXPERIENCES. 176 00:07:38,859 --> 00:07:40,861 SO THE EASY-BAKE OVEN WAS LIKE A TOY OVEN 177 00:07:40,894 --> 00:07:42,563 THAT GIRLS COULD MIMIC WHAT THEIR MOM'S DID 178 00:07:42,596 --> 00:07:43,931 WITH A REAL OVEN. 179 00:07:43,964 --> 00:07:45,599 THEY MADE A TOY THAT WAS LIKE A MINIATURE COW 180 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:46,967 AND YOU COULD MILK IT. 181 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,570 THEY MADE A GOAT THAT YOU COULD FEED THINGS TO. 182 00:07:49,603 --> 00:07:51,271 THEY BECAME ASSOCIATED WITH PLAY-DOH. 183 00:07:51,304 --> 00:07:52,806 ACTIVITY-TYPE TOYS. 184 00:07:54,675 --> 00:07:57,678 HERE WE ARE ON KENNER STREET WHERE THE COMPANY GOT ITS NAME. 185 00:07:57,711 --> 00:07:58,846 ** 186 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:02,883 SO 1947, WHEN THE COMPANY ORIGINALLY GOT STARTED OUT, 187 00:08:02,916 --> 00:08:05,853 IT WAS A SPINOFF OF A SOAP COMPANY, CINCINNATI SOAP. 188 00:08:05,886 --> 00:08:07,921 THE SOAP COMPANY, LIKE ANY OTHER COMPANY, 189 00:08:07,955 --> 00:08:09,256 WAS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO GET PEOPLE TO USE 190 00:08:09,289 --> 00:08:10,724 MORE AND MORE OF THEIR PRODUCTS 191 00:08:10,758 --> 00:08:12,593 AND TO DIFFERENTIATE FROM SOMEBODY ELSE. 192 00:08:12,626 --> 00:08:16,029 AND THEY CAME UP WITH THE IDEA FOR A GUN THAT SHOT BUBBLES. 193 00:08:18,566 --> 00:08:20,701 PROCTER AND GAMBLE AT THAT TIME WAS REALLY WANTING 194 00:08:20,734 --> 00:08:22,603 TO GET INTO CONSUMER HOME-GOODS, 195 00:08:22,636 --> 00:08:24,738 SO THEY BOUGHT CINCINNATI SOAP. 196 00:08:24,772 --> 00:08:26,607 AND THE GUYS FROM CINCINNATI SOAP 197 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,308 CALLED UP AND SAID, "WELL, WHAT ABOUT THE BUBBLE GUN? 198 00:08:28,341 --> 00:08:29,843 DID YOU BUY THE RIGHTS TO THAT?" 199 00:08:29,877 --> 00:08:31,945 IMMEDIATELY, "NO, NO, NO INTEREST IN THAT." 200 00:08:31,979 --> 00:08:34,081 AND THEY SAID, "WELL, DO YOU MIND IF WE RUN WITH IT?" 201 00:08:34,114 --> 00:08:38,018 AND, UH, KENNER TOYS WAS ON ITS WAY. 202 00:08:38,051 --> 00:08:40,854 COLONEL STEVE AUSTIN, THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN, 203 00:08:40,888 --> 00:08:43,090 AND THE NEW BIONIC TRANSPORTING REPAIR-STATION. 204 00:08:43,123 --> 00:08:46,226 KENNER HAD HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN, 205 00:08:46,259 --> 00:08:47,628 AND THAT STARTED TO GET THEM THINKING 206 00:08:47,661 --> 00:08:49,162 ABOUT DOING OTHER PROPERTIES. 207 00:08:49,196 --> 00:08:51,765 SO I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT KENNER SAW IN "STAR WARS" PARTIALLY. 208 00:08:51,799 --> 00:08:54,635 AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT, UH, 209 00:08:54,668 --> 00:08:55,903 LUCASFILM SAW IN KENNER, 210 00:08:55,936 --> 00:08:57,270 THAT THEY HAD SUCCESSFULLY DONE THIS 211 00:08:57,304 --> 00:08:58,606 WITH THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN. 212 00:08:58,639 --> 00:08:59,973 (BOY) BIONIC EYE, A-OKAY. 213 00:09:00,007 --> 00:09:03,543 SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN, READY FOR ACTION! 214 00:09:05,979 --> 00:09:08,916 (SWEARINGEN) IT CAME INTO THE OFFICE AS A SCRIPT 215 00:09:08,949 --> 00:09:11,652 AND A SERIES OF BLACK AND WHITE PHOTOGRAPHS. 216 00:09:11,685 --> 00:09:13,821 DIFFERENT LOCALES, THERE WERE DIFFERENT VEHICLES, 217 00:09:13,854 --> 00:09:15,222 THERE WERE DIFFERENT CHARACTERS 218 00:09:15,255 --> 00:09:18,659 WAITING TO BE TURNED INTO A TOY. 219 00:09:18,692 --> 00:09:21,328 EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY IN THE DESIGN DEPARTMENT 220 00:09:21,361 --> 00:09:23,797 WAS VERY INTRIGUED AND VERY EXCITED 221 00:09:23,831 --> 00:09:26,600 ABOUT WORKING ON "STAR WARS" AS A PROPERTY 222 00:09:26,634 --> 00:09:28,001 BECAUSE IT WAS SO DIFFERENT 223 00:09:28,035 --> 00:09:31,204 AND REVOLUTIONARY FROM WHAT THEY'D WORKED ON BEFORE. 224 00:09:31,238 --> 00:09:33,073 WE WERE FORAGING INTO NEW TERRITORY, 225 00:09:33,106 --> 00:09:35,809 AND A LOT OF US DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH IT. 226 00:09:35,843 --> 00:09:37,878 LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF TOYS WOULD WE MAKE, 227 00:09:37,911 --> 00:09:39,880 WHAT WOULD SELL, WHAT WOULDN'T SELL. 228 00:09:39,913 --> 00:09:42,750 (TROY) UP UNTIL THAT POINT IN TIME, "STAR TREK" AS A LICENSE, 229 00:09:42,783 --> 00:09:44,752 EVERYTHING WAS POLISHED. 230 00:09:44,785 --> 00:09:47,955 AND ALMOST ALL SCIENCE FICTION WAS DONE THAT WAY. 231 00:09:47,988 --> 00:09:50,691 WHEN IT CAME TO "STAR WARS," ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'VE HAD 232 00:09:50,724 --> 00:09:52,392 WEATHERED EFFECTS ON THINGS. 233 00:09:52,425 --> 00:09:53,661 AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS NEAT. 234 00:09:53,694 --> 00:09:55,663 AND THEN TO PUT A BRAND-NEW FORM 235 00:09:55,696 --> 00:09:57,297 UNDER THAT KIND OF TREATMENT 236 00:09:57,330 --> 00:09:58,699 AND THEN SELL IT AS A PRODUCT 237 00:09:58,732 --> 00:10:00,367 WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY NICE. 238 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,336 (SANSWEET) BERNIE LOOMIS, WHO WAS THEN THE PRESIDENT OF KENNER 239 00:10:03,370 --> 00:10:05,839 AND BECAME VERY WELL KNOWN IN THE TOY BUSINESS, 240 00:10:05,873 --> 00:10:09,076 SAID, "I THOUGHT IT HAD A 'TOYETIC' APPEAL. 241 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:12,245 IT WOULD MAKE AN INTERESTING LINE OF TOYS." 242 00:10:12,279 --> 00:10:15,382 AND THEY LITERALLY SIGNED THE CONTRACT 243 00:10:15,415 --> 00:10:17,985 A MONTH BEFORE THE MOVIE CAME OUT 244 00:10:18,018 --> 00:10:22,022 IN APRIL OF 1977. 245 00:10:22,055 --> 00:10:25,659 BERNIE LOOMIS CALLED ME INTO HIS OFFICE, 246 00:10:25,693 --> 00:10:29,429 AND HE SAID, UM, "I WANT YOU TO TAKE YOUR STAFF 247 00:10:29,462 --> 00:10:31,732 TO A MOVIE THIS WEEKEND." 248 00:10:31,765 --> 00:10:34,267 AND I SAID, "BERNIE, IT'S, UH... 249 00:10:34,301 --> 00:10:37,070 IT'S A HOLIDAY WEEKEND." 250 00:10:37,104 --> 00:10:39,673 AND HE SAYS, "SO WHAT? 251 00:10:39,707 --> 00:10:41,441 "WE JUST BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO THIS MOVIE. 252 00:10:41,474 --> 00:10:43,143 I WANT YOUR STAFF TO SEE THIS." 253 00:10:43,176 --> 00:10:46,013 HE DIDN'T TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT THE MOVIE. 254 00:10:46,046 --> 00:10:48,949 HE DIDN'T TELL ME WHAT THE NAME OF THE MOVIE WAS. 255 00:10:48,982 --> 00:10:50,918 AT LEAST THEY PAID FOR THE TICKETS. 256 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,922 THEY TOOK THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT, 257 00:10:54,955 --> 00:10:56,790 ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE OVER, 258 00:10:56,824 --> 00:10:58,358 THEY RENTED A MOVIE THEATRE, 259 00:10:58,391 --> 00:11:00,293 AND WE ALL HAULED IN CAMERAS IN THERE 260 00:11:00,327 --> 00:11:02,062 SO WE COULD TAKE PICTURES OF THE SCREENS 261 00:11:02,095 --> 00:11:05,298 LOOKING FOR ALL THE ELEMENTS IN THAT MOVIE 262 00:11:05,332 --> 00:11:07,200 THAT WE COULD CREATE INTO TOYS. 263 00:11:07,234 --> 00:11:11,038 (NARRATOR) ... AND GEORGE LUCAS BRING YOU AN ADVENTURE... 264 00:11:11,071 --> 00:11:15,308 EVERYBODY WAS JUST BLOWN AWAY AT THE NUMBER OF MACHINES 265 00:11:15,342 --> 00:11:17,377 AND ALL THE FIGHTERS AND THE ROBOTS. 266 00:11:17,410 --> 00:11:20,380 (R2-D2 BLEEPING) 267 00:11:20,413 --> 00:11:23,316 EVERYBODY THAT WALKED OUT 268 00:11:23,350 --> 00:11:25,819 REALIZED THAT WE HAD SOMETHING HERE 269 00:11:25,853 --> 00:11:28,055 THAT WAS INCREDIBLE. 270 00:11:28,088 --> 00:11:30,924 NOT A PRODUCT LINE, IT WAS PROBABLY A PHENOMENON 271 00:11:30,958 --> 00:11:32,192 ABOUT TO OCCUR. 272 00:11:33,493 --> 00:11:35,128 THEY WENT INTO IT THINKING THE MOVIE 273 00:11:35,162 --> 00:11:36,329 WOULD BE OUT THERE FOR, 274 00:11:36,363 --> 00:11:37,931 YOU KNOW, A DECENT PERIOD OF TIME. 275 00:11:37,965 --> 00:11:40,801 AND THEIR ORIGINAL PRODUCT PLAN WAS, 276 00:11:40,834 --> 00:11:43,270 "OKAY, WELL, IN THE FIRST YEAR WE'LL HAVE 277 00:11:43,303 --> 00:11:47,808 "ONE OR TWO BOARD GAMES, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME PUZZLES. 278 00:11:47,841 --> 00:11:50,343 "IN THE SECOND YEAR WE'LL HAVE A VEHICLE. 279 00:11:50,377 --> 00:11:52,880 AND THEN MAYBE SOME FIGURES." 280 00:11:52,913 --> 00:11:55,115 BUT THEY WEREN'T OVER-PROMISING. 281 00:11:57,851 --> 00:12:00,420 ** ("STAR WARS" THEME) 282 00:12:00,453 --> 00:12:02,756 (LOPEZ) "STAR WARS" CAME OUT IN MAY, 1977. 283 00:12:02,790 --> 00:12:04,524 BY MID-LATE SUMMER, IT WAS JUST 284 00:12:04,557 --> 00:12:08,095 THIS AMAZING BLOCKBUSTER SUCCESS. 285 00:12:08,128 --> 00:12:09,863 (SANSWEET) EVERYTHING WAS ABOUT "STAR WARS." 286 00:12:09,897 --> 00:12:11,932 EVERYBODY WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT "STAR WARS." 287 00:12:11,965 --> 00:12:14,234 THE MARKETING AND MERCHANDISING PLANT AT KENNER 288 00:12:14,267 --> 00:12:15,836 CHANGED OVERNIGHT. 289 00:12:15,869 --> 00:12:18,839 HOW MUCH CAN WE HAVE AND HOW FAST CAN WE HAVE IT? 290 00:12:18,872 --> 00:12:20,874 YOU HAD TO HAVE SOMETHING 291 00:12:20,908 --> 00:12:24,244 BY CHRISTMAS OF 1977 292 00:12:24,277 --> 00:12:25,545 OR YOU'RE DEAD. 293 00:12:25,578 --> 00:12:28,916 IT'S MAY, WE NEED PRODUCT OUT FOR CHRISTMAS, 294 00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:32,285 WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT IN THE STORE BY AUGUST. 295 00:12:32,319 --> 00:12:35,889 I REALIZED THAT THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TIME TO MAKE THIS WORK. 296 00:12:38,158 --> 00:12:39,993 (ROARS) 297 00:12:40,027 --> 00:12:42,562 SO, I WAS IN A MEETING, I MENTIONED, 298 00:12:42,595 --> 00:12:45,999 "WHAT IF WE SELL THE RIGHT 299 00:12:46,033 --> 00:12:48,802 TO BUY THE PRODUCT WHEN IT BECOMES AVAILABLE?" 300 00:12:48,836 --> 00:12:51,805 (ANNOUNCER) R2-D2, CHEWBACCA, 301 00:12:51,839 --> 00:12:53,306 LUKE, AND PRINCESS LEIA, 302 00:12:53,340 --> 00:12:55,242 THEY'RE THE "STAR WARS" EARLY-BIRD SET OF FIGURES. 303 00:12:55,275 --> 00:12:57,544 THESE ACTION FIGURES ARE NOT YET AVAILABLE, 304 00:12:57,577 --> 00:12:59,813 BUT THIS "STAR WARS" EARLY-BIRD CERTIFICATE PACKAGE 305 00:12:59,847 --> 00:13:01,414 IS IN STORES WITH THIS COLORFUL 306 00:13:01,448 --> 00:13:03,283 "STAR WARS" PICTURE DISPLAY STAND 307 00:13:03,316 --> 00:13:04,818 AND CERTIFICATE TO SEND IN 308 00:13:04,852 --> 00:13:06,086 TO GET A SET OF FIGURES BY MAIL. 309 00:13:06,119 --> 00:13:07,554 THEY'LL BE SENT TO YOU AT HOME 310 00:13:07,587 --> 00:13:09,289 BETWEEN FEBRUARY 1ST AND JUNE 1ST. 311 00:13:09,322 --> 00:13:12,159 THE "STAR WARS" EARLY-BIRD CERTIFICATE PACKAGE. 312 00:13:12,192 --> 00:13:14,027 NEW FROM KENNER. 313 00:13:14,061 --> 00:13:16,563 SO, THIS IS WHAT YOU'D SEE, PROBABLY ON A COUNTER 314 00:13:16,596 --> 00:13:19,599 ADVERTISING THE EARLY-BIRD CERTIFICATE PACKAGE. 315 00:13:19,632 --> 00:13:21,434 AND IF YOU WERE A LUCKY KID, 316 00:13:21,468 --> 00:13:22,569 THE PARENT WOULD PULL OUT AN ENVELOPE 317 00:13:22,602 --> 00:13:24,604 AND BUY IT FOR YOU FOR CHRISTMAS. 318 00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:26,974 THIS IS THE DISPLAY STAND PORTION 319 00:13:27,007 --> 00:13:29,042 OF WHAT WOULD BE INSIDE OF THE EARLY-BIRD ENVELOPE. 320 00:13:29,076 --> 00:13:31,044 IT WAS JUST A COOL-LOOKING PIECE OF CARDBOARD 321 00:13:31,078 --> 00:13:32,913 UNTIL YOU GOT THE FIGURES TO PUT THE ON THERE. 322 00:13:32,946 --> 00:13:34,414 AND YOU CAN SEE I PUT THE FIGURES ON THERE. 323 00:13:34,447 --> 00:13:36,917 THAT'S HOW IT WOULD LOOK ONCE YOU GOT THEM IN THE STORES. 324 00:13:36,950 --> 00:13:38,285 IT SOUNDS REALLY LAME TODAY. 325 00:13:38,318 --> 00:13:40,187 YOU HEAR IT AND YOU GO, "WELL, OH, MY GOD, 326 00:13:40,220 --> 00:13:42,856 YOU JUST GAVE THESE KIDS, LIKE, A SLAB OF CARDBOARD." 327 00:13:42,890 --> 00:13:44,557 PEOPLE PRETTY MUCH SHOOK THEIR HEAD, GOING, 328 00:13:44,591 --> 00:13:46,093 "HOW ARE THEY GONNA DO THAT? 329 00:13:46,126 --> 00:13:47,995 HOW ARE YOU GONNA PULL THAT OFF?" 330 00:13:48,028 --> 00:13:49,897 WELL, THIS WAS KIND OF UP THERE WITH THE PET ROCK. 331 00:13:49,930 --> 00:13:51,131 YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHAT-- 332 00:13:51,164 --> 00:13:53,566 I'M-- I'M SPENDING THIS MUCH MONEY 333 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,335 FOR AN EMPTY BOX. 334 00:13:56,636 --> 00:13:58,972 THIS NEEDED TO SELL THIS TO LUCASFILM 335 00:13:59,006 --> 00:14:00,874 AND 20TH CENTURY FOX. 336 00:14:00,908 --> 00:14:03,877 SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY CREATED PROTOTYPES 337 00:14:03,911 --> 00:14:06,113 OF WHAT THE KIDS WOULD GET IN THIS PACKAGE 338 00:14:06,146 --> 00:14:08,048 AND PRESENTED IT TO GEORGE LUCAS. 339 00:14:08,081 --> 00:14:09,649 ALL THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE MEETING 340 00:14:09,682 --> 00:14:12,152 FILLED THEM OUT AND GAVE THEM BACK TO KENNER 341 00:14:12,185 --> 00:14:15,155 SO THEY COULD GET THE TOYS WHEN THEY CAME OUT. 342 00:14:15,188 --> 00:14:17,490 I HADN'T BEEN THERE THAT LONG. 343 00:14:17,524 --> 00:14:20,627 AND THIS WAS... 344 00:14:20,660 --> 00:14:22,162 MY IDEA. 345 00:14:22,195 --> 00:14:24,497 AND EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN EMBRACED 346 00:14:24,531 --> 00:14:26,499 BY SOME OF THE TOP PEOPLE, 347 00:14:26,533 --> 00:14:28,401 IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY MEAN 348 00:14:28,435 --> 00:14:29,970 THAT THEY WERE GOING TO EMBRACE IT 349 00:14:30,003 --> 00:14:32,072 IF IT DIDN'T WORK. 350 00:14:37,210 --> 00:14:39,012 IT SOUNDS LIKE, WOW, THEY PULLED 351 00:14:39,046 --> 00:14:41,014 THIS AMAZING CON GAME ON KIDS 352 00:14:41,048 --> 00:14:42,649 IN CHRISTMAS, 1977. 353 00:14:42,682 --> 00:14:45,118 BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY A VERY SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN, 354 00:14:45,152 --> 00:14:47,687 ALTHOUGH A LOT OF THE SETS WENT UNSOLD. 355 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,656 AS A KID GOING THROUGH IT AT THE TIME, 356 00:14:49,689 --> 00:14:51,391 IT WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITE "STAR WARS" THINGS 357 00:14:51,424 --> 00:14:53,093 I EVER BOUGHT. 358 00:14:53,126 --> 00:14:55,262 AND YOU HAD A LITTLE CATALOG THAT CAME WITH IT. 359 00:14:55,295 --> 00:14:57,130 YOU SAW THE PLAY SET, YOU WERE LOOKING FORWARD-- 360 00:14:57,164 --> 00:14:58,999 I ACTUALLY LOVED THE THING. 361 00:14:59,032 --> 00:15:01,568 (SANSWEET) THE EARLY FANS HAD THAT HUNGER FOR IT. 362 00:15:01,601 --> 00:15:03,536 AND SO, WHEN THAT HUNGER WAS MET, 363 00:15:03,570 --> 00:15:06,139 OH, THE SATISFACTION! 364 00:15:06,173 --> 00:15:09,609 THE, "I'VE FINALLY BEEN FED." 365 00:15:09,642 --> 00:15:14,581 AND I THINK THAT STILL EXISTS IN THE MINDS OF THOSE OF US 366 00:15:14,614 --> 00:15:16,116 WHO GREW UP WITH "STAR WARS." 367 00:15:16,149 --> 00:15:18,685 IT WAS THAT WONDERFUL FEELING 368 00:15:18,718 --> 00:15:21,588 THAT THAT ITCH HAD BEEN SCRATCHED. 369 00:15:21,621 --> 00:15:26,626 ONCE THE "STAR WARS" EARLY- REDEMPTION PROGRAM WAS DONE, 370 00:15:26,659 --> 00:15:29,529 I WAS WALKING DOWN THE HALL, 371 00:15:29,562 --> 00:15:32,432 AND BERNIE LOOMIS 372 00:15:32,465 --> 00:15:36,136 WAS WALKING DOWN THE HALL IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. 373 00:15:36,169 --> 00:15:39,539 HE SAW ME AND HE LOOKED AT ME 374 00:15:39,572 --> 00:15:43,343 AND HE SAYS, "GOOD." 375 00:15:48,781 --> 00:15:50,317 BEHIND ME IS THE KROGER BUILDING. 376 00:15:50,350 --> 00:15:52,152 THIS WAS THE HEADQUARTERS WHEN KENNER TOYS 377 00:15:52,185 --> 00:15:54,154 WAS MAKING THE "STAR WARS" LICENSE. 378 00:15:54,187 --> 00:15:56,589 IN THIS BUILDING, YOU WOULD HAVE HAD THE EXECUTIVE OFFICES, 379 00:15:56,623 --> 00:15:58,158 THE SCULPTING DEPARTMENT WAS HERE, 380 00:15:58,191 --> 00:16:00,994 AND EVEN A FOUNDRY TO HELP MAKE EARLY PROTOTYPES. 381 00:16:01,028 --> 00:16:03,696 EVEN BEFORE THE LICENSE WAS SIGNED IN APRIL, 382 00:16:03,730 --> 00:16:06,266 THE TOY TEAM WAS VERY BUSY 383 00:16:06,299 --> 00:16:09,036 DOING IT'S THING AND COMING UP WITH CONCEPTS 384 00:16:09,069 --> 00:16:12,672 WAY BEYOND WHAT COULD ACTUALLY 385 00:16:12,705 --> 00:16:15,775 COME OUT IN 1977 386 00:16:15,808 --> 00:16:18,078 BECAUSE OF THE LENGTHY PRODUCTION TIME. 387 00:16:18,111 --> 00:16:20,480 (SANTAW) WE HAD SCRIPTS AND WE GUESSED 388 00:16:20,513 --> 00:16:24,617 AT WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BE THE MOST VISIBLE CHARACTERS 389 00:16:24,651 --> 00:16:28,588 AND THE MOST VISIBLE VEHICLES AND SETS. 390 00:16:28,621 --> 00:16:32,292 (SWEARINGEN) THE FIRST THINGS WE WORKED ON WERE THE FIGURES. 391 00:16:35,062 --> 00:16:37,097 THE VERY FIRST FIGURES WERE ALL KIND OF CARVED 392 00:16:37,130 --> 00:16:41,000 OUT OF HUMAN FIGURES THAT WE FOUND. 393 00:16:44,604 --> 00:16:46,206 LIKE THE STORMTROOPER, 394 00:16:46,239 --> 00:16:50,177 I TOOK THOSE FIGURES AND USED, UH, BONDO 395 00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:52,112 TO START ROUGHING OUT THE HELMET. 396 00:16:52,145 --> 00:16:55,248 I WAS KIND OF PLAYING JUNIOR SCULPTOR. 397 00:16:55,282 --> 00:16:57,117 SOME OF THE FIGURES ARE A LITTLE FUNKY. 398 00:16:57,150 --> 00:17:01,254 LIKE THE TUSKEN RAIDER'S HEAD IS ALL FUNKY LOOKIN'. 399 00:17:01,288 --> 00:17:03,756 THE ORIGINAL DEATH SQUAD COMMANDER 400 00:17:03,790 --> 00:17:06,193 LOOKS MORE LIKE A STORMTROOPER. 401 00:17:06,226 --> 00:17:08,495 DAVE OKADA, WHO WAS HEAD OF THE DESIGN TEAM 402 00:17:08,528 --> 00:17:09,796 TOLD ME, AS SOON AS HE KNEW 403 00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:11,831 THAT THERE WAS REALLY GONNA BE A CONTRACT, 404 00:17:11,864 --> 00:17:13,400 HE AND EVERYBODY ELSE WAS SO EXCITED, 405 00:17:13,433 --> 00:17:15,568 HE WENT HOME, HE RAIDED HIS SOCK DRAWER, 406 00:17:15,602 --> 00:17:18,771 GOT OUT SOME BROWN SOCKS, AND MADE A PLUSH JAWA. 407 00:17:18,805 --> 00:17:20,273 (FINK) HERE, SO YOU CAN SEE HERE 408 00:17:20,307 --> 00:17:23,576 THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST A BROWN SOCK. 409 00:17:23,610 --> 00:17:26,146 IT JUST SHOWS THAT AT THAT TIME 410 00:17:26,179 --> 00:17:28,248 THEY WERE PROBABLY JUST DOING WHATEVER THEY COULD 411 00:17:28,281 --> 00:17:29,816 TO GET THESE PRODUCTS MADE. 412 00:17:29,849 --> 00:17:31,851 (JAWA CHITTERING) 413 00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:33,220 (ANNOUNCER) IT'S KENNER'S NEW 414 00:17:33,253 --> 00:17:34,521 "STAR WARS" ACTION FIGURES. 415 00:17:34,554 --> 00:17:35,755 EACH SOLD SEPARATELY. 416 00:17:35,788 --> 00:17:37,690 (BOY) I GOTCHA NOW, BEN KENOBI! 417 00:17:37,724 --> 00:17:40,860 (LUTTRULL) WHEN YOU'RE THE KID WITH THE BOX FULL OF "STAR WARS" TOYS. 418 00:17:40,893 --> 00:17:44,431 YOU ARE-- I THINK "HERO" MIGHT NOT BE THE RIGHT WORD, 419 00:17:44,464 --> 00:17:47,567 BUT EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE THE FIGURES. 420 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,703 MAYBE NOT YOU SO MUCH, BUT THEY WANT TO SEE THE FIGURES. 421 00:17:50,737 --> 00:17:52,305 WHAT MAKES THE MOVIE GREAT 422 00:17:52,339 --> 00:17:54,307 IS THE SAME THING THAT MAKES THE TOYS GREAT. 423 00:17:54,341 --> 00:17:56,309 THERE'S ALL THIS IMAGINATION INVOLVED. 424 00:17:56,343 --> 00:17:58,845 THERE'S ALL THESE VARIED CHARACTERS. 425 00:17:58,878 --> 00:18:01,381 YOU HAVE REALLY STRANGE ALIEN CHARACTERS, 426 00:18:01,414 --> 00:18:03,550 DOWN-HOME LOOKING CHARACTERS, 427 00:18:03,583 --> 00:18:05,152 MILITARY--- 428 00:18:05,185 --> 00:18:08,188 I MEAN, THERE'S ALL THIS STUFF ALL BUILT IN TO IT. 429 00:18:08,221 --> 00:18:09,556 (SALVATORE) WHEN THE FIGURES FINALLY HIT THE STORES, 430 00:18:09,589 --> 00:18:10,890 THERE WAS 12 AVAILABLE. 431 00:18:10,923 --> 00:18:12,892 LUKE SKYWALKER, PRINCESS LEIA, 432 00:18:12,925 --> 00:18:14,761 DARTH VADER, OBVIOUSLY, 433 00:18:14,794 --> 00:18:16,763 R2-D2, C-3PO, 434 00:18:16,796 --> 00:18:19,699 HAN SOLO, CHEWBACCA, OBI-WAN KENOBI, 435 00:18:19,732 --> 00:18:21,868 STORMTROOPER, DEATH SQUAD COMMANDER, 436 00:18:21,901 --> 00:18:23,470 THE SAND PERSON, AND THE JAWA. 437 00:18:23,503 --> 00:18:24,904 (JAWA CHITTERING) 438 00:18:24,937 --> 00:18:26,773 (PEREZ) THE FIRST TIME I SAW "STAR WARS" FIGURES 439 00:18:26,806 --> 00:18:28,841 OR ANY OTHER TOYS IN THE STORE, 440 00:18:28,875 --> 00:18:30,210 I DON'T THINK MY DAD UNDERSTOOD 441 00:18:30,243 --> 00:18:32,345 EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY 442 00:18:32,379 --> 00:18:33,846 BECAUSE I WAS BASICALLY JUST HOWLING AND WHOOPING 443 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,183 AND MAKING ALL THESE NOISES, POINTING... 444 00:18:36,216 --> 00:18:38,618 YOU KNOW, LIKE... (GRUNTING EXCITEDLY) 445 00:18:38,651 --> 00:18:40,220 HE PROBABLY THOUGHT I WAS DOING AN IMPRESSION 446 00:18:40,253 --> 00:18:41,488 OF ONE OF THE SAND PEOPLE. 447 00:18:41,521 --> 00:18:43,156 (GRUNTING) 448 00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:46,259 (TOM BERGES) MY FIRST FIGURE WAS OBI-WAN KENOBI. 449 00:18:46,293 --> 00:18:48,528 YOU KNOW, HE HAD THE ARM, AND THE LIGHTSABER 450 00:18:48,561 --> 00:18:49,829 WOULD POP OUT. 451 00:18:49,862 --> 00:18:52,165 THAT WAS MIND-BLOWING TO A SEVEN-YEAR-OLD KID. 452 00:18:52,199 --> 00:18:53,900 THE FIRST ONE I GOT WAS A JAWA 453 00:18:53,933 --> 00:18:55,902 IN THE CLOTH CAPE. 454 00:18:55,935 --> 00:18:58,305 DARTH VADER OR LUKE SKYWALKER? 455 00:18:58,338 --> 00:18:59,939 DARTH VADER'S COOLER. 456 00:18:59,972 --> 00:19:01,808 MY MOM BOUGHT ME R2-D2, AND THAT WAS 457 00:19:01,841 --> 00:19:04,311 MY FIRST FIGURE THAT I EVER HAD. 458 00:19:04,344 --> 00:19:06,313 OF COURSE, THE BULLIES THAT LIVED AROUND THE CORNER FROM ME 459 00:19:06,346 --> 00:19:08,881 LATER SOAKED HIM IN THE CREEK THAT WAS BY MY HOUSE 460 00:19:08,915 --> 00:19:09,949 AND HE COMPLETELY GOT RUINED. 461 00:19:09,982 --> 00:19:11,618 THEY DIDN'T MAKE THEM TO LAST, 462 00:19:11,651 --> 00:19:15,355 AND IF YOU BROKE THEM, ALL YOU NEEDED TO DO 463 00:19:15,388 --> 00:19:17,790 WAS GO TO THE STORE AND PICK UP ANOTHER ONE. 464 00:19:17,824 --> 00:19:20,960 (LUTTRULL) I ALWAYS KIND OF MADE LUKE 465 00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:23,763 MUCH MORE OF A HERO EVEN THAN HE WAS IN THE FILM. 466 00:19:23,796 --> 00:19:25,532 HE WAS PRETTY MUCH THE INVINCIBLE 467 00:19:25,565 --> 00:19:26,899 "STAR WARS" CHARACTER. 468 00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:29,269 HE WAS, YOU KNOW, MY FAVORITE CHARACTER. 469 00:19:29,302 --> 00:19:33,540 THIS IS MY ORIGINAL 470 00:19:33,573 --> 00:19:35,975 FIRST-12 FIGURE STAND. 471 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:38,945 UM, NOT ALL OF THESE ARE MY ORIGINAL FIGURES 472 00:19:38,978 --> 00:19:40,947 FROM MY CHILDHOOD, SEVERAL OF THEM ARE. 473 00:19:40,980 --> 00:19:42,815 I KNOW THE R2-D2 IS, WHICH IS OF COURSE 474 00:19:42,849 --> 00:19:45,218 WHY HE'S SO BEAT UP. 475 00:19:45,252 --> 00:19:47,754 I BELIEVE IT WAS CALLED AN ACTION STAND 476 00:19:47,787 --> 00:19:50,423 BECAUSE IT HAS ACTION LEVERS. 477 00:19:50,457 --> 00:19:51,791 (LAUGHING) 478 00:19:51,824 --> 00:19:53,226 AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S CRACKED 479 00:19:53,260 --> 00:19:54,761 AND THE STICKERS ARE COMING OFF, 480 00:19:54,794 --> 00:19:57,730 BUT I WILL NEVER GET RID OF THIS 481 00:19:57,764 --> 00:20:01,568 BECAUSE THIS MEANT SO MUCH TO ME. 482 00:20:01,601 --> 00:20:06,506 THERE WERE 12 ACTION FIGURES AND I HAD THEM ALL. 483 00:20:06,539 --> 00:20:08,975 THIS FIGURE IS SORT OF IMPORTANT TO ME. 484 00:20:09,008 --> 00:20:10,910 WHEN I WAS FIVE OR SIX YEARS OLD, 485 00:20:10,943 --> 00:20:13,613 I LOST ONE OF MY TEETH, AND I TOLD MY PARENTS 486 00:20:13,646 --> 00:20:15,782 THAT I HOPED THE TOOTH-FAIRY WOULD BRING ME 487 00:20:15,815 --> 00:20:17,317 A "STAR WARS" FIGURE. 488 00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:19,352 AND I REMEMBER WAKING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT 489 00:20:19,386 --> 00:20:21,354 AND REACHING UNDER MY PILLOW 490 00:20:21,388 --> 00:20:23,990 AND SORT OF FELLING THE BUBBLE OF THE CARDED FIGURE, 491 00:20:24,023 --> 00:20:26,259 TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH FIGURE I RECEIVED. 492 00:20:26,293 --> 00:20:27,760 I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE JUST PULLED IT OUT 493 00:20:27,794 --> 00:20:29,028 FROM UNDERNEATH MY PILLOW 494 00:20:29,061 --> 00:20:30,530 AND HELD IT UP TO THE MOONLIGHT AND SAW, 495 00:20:30,563 --> 00:20:33,366 BUT I WAS AFRAID AT SOME FIVE-YEAR-OLD LEVEL 496 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,001 THAT THE THING WOULD DISAPPEAR OR TURN TO DUST 497 00:20:35,034 --> 00:20:36,469 IF I GOT AN EARLY PEEK AT IT. 498 00:20:36,503 --> 00:20:38,004 SO, I LAID THERE ALL NIGHT TILL THE MORNING 499 00:20:38,037 --> 00:20:40,440 AND THEN PULLED IT OUT AND GOT FX-7. 500 00:20:40,473 --> 00:20:41,808 MY MOST FAVORITE THING TO DO 501 00:20:41,841 --> 00:20:44,544 WITH MY "STAR WARS" FIGURES AS A KID 502 00:20:44,577 --> 00:20:46,946 WAS TO TAKE HAN SOLO AND PUT HIM IN A CUP OF WATER 503 00:20:46,979 --> 00:20:48,315 AND PUT HIM IN THE FREEZER OVERNIGHT 504 00:20:48,348 --> 00:20:49,682 BECAUSE THEN, THE NEXT MORNING, 505 00:20:49,716 --> 00:20:51,484 YOU WOULD HAVE HAN SOLO FROZEN IN HIS BLOCK OF ICE. 506 00:20:51,518 --> 00:20:54,053 AND YOU COULD PLAY WITH THAT FOR A WHILE 507 00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:55,755 THE ROOM WASN'T JUST A ROOM. 508 00:20:55,788 --> 00:20:57,990 IT BECAME THE ENVIRONMENT LIKE I SAW IN THE MOVIE. 509 00:20:58,024 --> 00:20:59,359 SO I'D PRETEND THE TOP OF MY DESK 510 00:20:59,392 --> 00:21:00,593 WAS THE FLOOR OF THE DEATH STAR, 511 00:21:00,627 --> 00:21:02,729 OR TAKE ONE OF MY MOM'S TAN BLANKETS, 512 00:21:02,762 --> 00:21:03,896 THROW IT ON THE TABLE, 513 00:21:03,930 --> 00:21:05,498 NOW IT'S THE ENVIRONMENT OF TATOOINE. 514 00:21:05,532 --> 00:21:07,434 THAT'S WHEN I REALIZED I NEED MORE CHARACTERS HERE 515 00:21:07,467 --> 00:21:09,436 BECAUSE I CAN'T DO THE REST OF THIS MOVIE ON MY OWN 516 00:21:09,469 --> 00:21:10,937 WITHOUT MORE FIGURES AROUND. 517 00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:13,573 SO I NEED JAWAS, I NEED SAND PEOPLE. 518 00:21:13,606 --> 00:21:15,041 (LOPEZ) KENNER, EVEN FROM THE VERY START, 519 00:21:15,074 --> 00:21:16,543 THEY REALIZED THAT EVEN THOUGH 520 00:21:16,576 --> 00:21:18,378 THEY MAY NOT HAVE HAD A LOT OF SCREEN TIME, 521 00:21:18,411 --> 00:21:20,680 MANY OF THE CHARACTERS WERE NOT EVEN PIVOTAL TO THE PLOT, 522 00:21:20,713 --> 00:21:22,582 THEY WERE DIFFERENT, THEY WERE UNIQUE. 523 00:21:22,615 --> 00:21:24,684 THEY KNEW THAT KIDS WOULD STILL BE INTERESTED IN IT, 524 00:21:24,717 --> 00:21:26,519 AND WOULD REALLY HAVE AN AFFINITY FOR IT. 525 00:21:26,553 --> 00:21:29,389 SO THEY MADE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TUSKEN RAIDER CHARACTER. 526 00:21:29,422 --> 00:21:30,623 THEY DO GET SOME SCREEN TIME 527 00:21:30,657 --> 00:21:32,091 WHEN THEY ATTACK LUKE IN THE FILM, 528 00:21:32,124 --> 00:21:34,827 BUT REALLY NOT A CENTRAL CHARACTER TO THE STORY. 529 00:21:34,861 --> 00:21:37,530 (SHARP) I TENDED TO GRAVITATE TOWARD SOME OF THE CHARACTERS 530 00:21:37,564 --> 00:21:38,965 LIKE WALRUS MAN AND HAMMERHEAD 531 00:21:38,998 --> 00:21:41,901 THAT REALLY HAD NO PART OF THE OVERALL STORY IN THE MOVIES. 532 00:21:41,934 --> 00:21:43,403 THEY'RE JUST THERE. 533 00:21:43,436 --> 00:21:45,472 SO, I COULD DO THINGS WITH THOSE CHARACTERS 534 00:21:45,505 --> 00:21:48,408 THAT I THOUGHT COULD HAVE ACTUALLY HAPPENED 535 00:21:48,441 --> 00:21:49,909 SORT OF OFF SCREEN SOMEWHERE. 536 00:21:49,942 --> 00:21:51,411 IT'S POSSIBLE THAT HAMMERHEAD 537 00:21:51,444 --> 00:21:52,879 COULD HAVE STOLEN THE FALCON AT SOME POINT. 538 00:21:52,912 --> 00:21:55,582 (HAMMERHEAD) YEE-HAW! 539 00:21:55,615 --> 00:21:59,386 ONE OF THE BIG CHALLENGES WITH THE FIRST "STAR WARS" MOVIE, 540 00:21:59,419 --> 00:22:01,087 AND WORKING ON THE VERY FIRST ONE 541 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:03,990 WAS THE LACK OF DOCUMENTATION 542 00:22:04,023 --> 00:22:06,092 FOR THE MOVIE. 543 00:22:06,125 --> 00:22:10,062 THEY HAD NOT PHOTOGRAPHED EVERY COSTUME, 544 00:22:10,096 --> 00:22:12,999 THE MODELS WEREN'T SHOT FROM EVERY DIRECTION. 545 00:22:13,032 --> 00:22:14,867 PEOPLE THAT DID THE SET DESIGNS, 546 00:22:14,901 --> 00:22:16,469 WE WOULD USE THEIR DRAWINGS. 547 00:22:16,503 --> 00:22:18,137 WE WOULD USE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS, 548 00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:21,974 AND INTERPOLATE INTO OUR OWN TURNAROUNDS, 549 00:22:22,008 --> 00:22:25,378 OUR OWN SIDE AND FRONT AND BACK VIEWS. 550 00:22:25,412 --> 00:22:26,946 THE LACK OF REFERENCE MATERIAL, 551 00:22:26,979 --> 00:22:29,716 OR THE INADEQUATE REFERENCE MATERIAL THAT KENNER HAD 552 00:22:29,749 --> 00:22:31,918 IS PROBABLY RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THE-- 553 00:22:31,951 --> 00:22:34,587 THE MORE FAMOUS, UM... 554 00:22:34,621 --> 00:22:36,923 SCREW-UPS KNOWN IN THE "STAR WARS" LINE. 555 00:22:36,956 --> 00:22:38,958 FOR INSTANCE, THE ORIGINAL VERSION OF SNAGGLETOOTH 556 00:22:38,991 --> 00:22:42,629 WHICH WAS DESIGNED FOR THE SEARS EXCLUSIVE CANTINA PLAY-SET 557 00:22:42,662 --> 00:22:45,898 WAS A LARGE BLUE FIGURE WITH SILVER GO-GO BOOTS. 558 00:22:45,932 --> 00:22:49,536 ** (DANCE MUSIC) 559 00:22:49,569 --> 00:22:51,471 LUCASFILM DECIDED THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT. 560 00:22:51,504 --> 00:22:53,105 WHEN THE FIGURE ACTUALLY APPEARED IN STORES, 561 00:22:53,139 --> 00:22:54,807 IT WAS A MUCH SHORTER FIGURE IN A RED OUTFIT 562 00:22:54,841 --> 00:22:56,142 WITH HAIRY FEET. 563 00:22:56,175 --> 00:22:59,612 ALL YOU REALLY SAW IN THE FILM WAS HIS HEAD. 564 00:22:59,646 --> 00:23:01,648 SO, YOU KNOW, HOW BIG HE WAS 565 00:23:01,681 --> 00:23:03,650 WAS KIND OF UP TO CONJECTURE. 566 00:23:03,683 --> 00:23:06,152 (SALVATORE) WHEN LUCASFILM GOT MORE IN THE BUSINESS WITH KENNER 567 00:23:06,185 --> 00:23:07,854 AND EVERYTHING BECAME INTEGRATED, 568 00:23:07,887 --> 00:23:10,490 THEY WOULD ACTUALLY SEND PROPS OUT THE KENNER, 569 00:23:10,523 --> 00:23:12,892 AND THEY HAD TO BE KEPT IN A LOCKED CAGE. 570 00:23:12,925 --> 00:23:16,062 SO YOU REALLY SAW THE TOYS GET BETTER AND BETTER 571 00:23:16,095 --> 00:23:19,899 IN TERMS OF DESIGN AS THE LINE WENT ON. 572 00:23:19,932 --> 00:23:23,202 YOU CAN WALK THROUGH THE HISTORY OF AN ITEM 573 00:23:23,235 --> 00:23:26,539 BY LOOKING AT THE PRE-PRODUCTION STAGES FOR THAT ITEM. 574 00:23:26,573 --> 00:23:28,641 IT'S KIND OF NEAT TO BE ABLE TO GO, 575 00:23:28,675 --> 00:23:30,543 "LOOK, HERE'S A WHOLE PROGRESSION 576 00:23:30,577 --> 00:23:35,181 OF HOW THIS THING WAS CREATED." 577 00:23:35,214 --> 00:23:38,518 HERE WE HAVE SEVERAL PROTOTYPES 578 00:23:38,551 --> 00:23:40,219 WHICH REVEAL QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION 579 00:23:40,252 --> 00:23:44,223 INTO HOW A FIGURE WAS DEVELOPED AT KENNER. 580 00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:46,893 FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL WAX-SCULPTING, 581 00:23:46,926 --> 00:23:50,963 AND THAT IS THE ACTUAL 3D ART FOR THE FIGURE. 582 00:23:50,997 --> 00:23:54,967 THE WAX IS SPECIALLY FORMULATED TO HOLD A LOT OF FINE DETAIL. 583 00:23:55,001 --> 00:23:57,537 NEXT WE HAVE A HARD COPY, 584 00:23:57,570 --> 00:24:00,072 WHICH IS MADE BY TAKING MOLDS OFF THE SCULPT 585 00:24:00,106 --> 00:24:03,109 AND POURING INTO THOSE MOLDS A TWO-PART URETHANE MATERIAL. 586 00:24:03,142 --> 00:24:05,545 OFTEN, SOME OF THOSE HARD-COPY FIGURES 587 00:24:05,578 --> 00:24:08,948 WILL BE PAINTED SO THAT THE DESIGNERS AT KENNER 588 00:24:08,981 --> 00:24:10,149 CAN USE THEM IN PHOTOGRAPHY 589 00:24:10,182 --> 00:24:12,585 OR TO TEST DIFFERENT PAINT SCHEMES 590 00:24:12,619 --> 00:24:14,186 THE ACTUAL PRODUCTION FIGURES, 591 00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:16,255 WHICH YOU SEE AN EARLY EXAMPLE OF HERE, 592 00:24:16,288 --> 00:24:18,858 ARE MADE BY SENDING A HARD-COPY FIGURE 593 00:24:18,891 --> 00:24:21,628 OVER TO THE ORIENT WHERE THEY MAKE A TOOLING MASTER 594 00:24:21,661 --> 00:24:23,896 THAT'S USED TO CUT THE FINAL STEEL TOOLS 595 00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:28,568 THAT ARE MADE TO MAKE THOUSANDS OF THESE THINGS. 596 00:24:28,601 --> 00:24:30,570 ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WAS THE LIGHTSABER. 597 00:24:30,603 --> 00:24:31,838 (LIGHTSABER WHOOSHES) 598 00:24:31,871 --> 00:24:33,105 WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO YOU MAKE 599 00:24:33,139 --> 00:24:35,908 A LIGHTSABER HAPPEN 600 00:24:35,942 --> 00:24:37,209 WITHOUT ELECTRONICS 601 00:24:37,243 --> 00:24:39,045 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT SMALL. 602 00:24:39,078 --> 00:24:41,247 I WAS A BIG PROPONENT OF A-- 603 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,117 OF THE SPRING-LOADED DEVICE 604 00:24:45,151 --> 00:24:47,787 THAT WOULD ALLOW IT TO POP OUT. 605 00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:50,089 UNFORTUNATELY, OUR FRIENDS IN THE COST DEPARTMENT 606 00:24:50,122 --> 00:24:54,093 WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO SPEND THREE CENTS ON A SPRING, 607 00:24:54,126 --> 00:24:57,530 AND IT WAS A MORE DIFFICULT PRODUCT TO MANUFACTURE. 608 00:24:57,564 --> 00:25:01,934 I HAD THE MODEL SHOP PUT A MONOFILAMENT 609 00:25:01,968 --> 00:25:03,202 DOWN THE ARM OF THE FIGURE 610 00:25:03,235 --> 00:25:04,871 AND IT WOULD COME OUT THROUGH HIS HAND-- 611 00:25:04,904 --> 00:25:06,639 THROUGH THE HAND 612 00:25:06,673 --> 00:25:09,876 AND CURL UP INTO A NICE CURLICUE. 613 00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:12,845 AND ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW... (BUZZING) 614 00:25:12,879 --> 00:25:13,846 ... THAT WAS IT. 615 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:14,981 (BOY) NOW I KNOW 616 00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:16,616 THE FORCE IS WITH US. 617 00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:19,886 (SALVATORE) THE REGULAR LUKE HAD A LIGHTSABER IN THE ARM 618 00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:21,220 THAT SLID OUT ONE TIME. 619 00:25:21,253 --> 00:25:22,889 THE EARLIEST VERSIONS HAD ONE THAT SLID OUT 620 00:25:22,922 --> 00:25:25,024 AND THEN TELESCOPED OUT A SECOND TIME. 621 00:25:25,057 --> 00:25:27,627 SO THE EARLY-BIRD SET IS KNOWN FOR HAVING THAT 622 00:25:27,660 --> 00:25:29,562 EARLY-BIRD LUKE THAT HAS 623 00:25:29,596 --> 00:25:31,631 THE DOUBLE TELESCOPING LIGHTSABER. 624 00:25:31,664 --> 00:25:34,767 THESE ARE ALL FOUR-INCH DARTH VADER PROTOTYPES. 625 00:25:34,801 --> 00:25:36,736 WHAT'S NOTABLE ABOUT A LOT OF THESE 626 00:25:36,769 --> 00:25:40,139 ARE, OF COURSE, THE DOUBLE TELESCOPING SABERS. 627 00:25:43,209 --> 00:25:45,177 THIS PARTICULAR EXAMPLE 628 00:25:45,211 --> 00:25:48,648 IS A PROTOTYPE STAGE OF THAT 629 00:25:48,681 --> 00:25:51,584 AT THE VERY TIP IS WHAT WE CALL THE MUSHROOM TIP 630 00:25:51,618 --> 00:25:53,019 BECAUSE IT HAS A SMALL DISC. 631 00:25:53,052 --> 00:25:55,788 AND THE IDEA WAS THAT IT WOULD GIVE THE PERSON 632 00:25:55,822 --> 00:25:57,724 THAT WAS MANIPULATING THE INNER SABER, 633 00:25:57,757 --> 00:25:59,158 LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO GRAB ONTO 634 00:25:59,191 --> 00:26:00,760 TO HELP EXTEND IT. 635 00:26:01,928 --> 00:26:05,798 ** 636 00:26:05,832 --> 00:26:08,200 (LUTTRULL) I THINK KENNER REALLY 637 00:26:08,234 --> 00:26:10,336 BOTTLED LIGHTNING WITH THOSE FIGURE. 638 00:26:10,369 --> 00:26:13,339 IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN WHY THESE TOYS 639 00:26:13,372 --> 00:26:16,375 BECAME SO IMPORTANT TO SO MANY KIDS, 640 00:26:16,408 --> 00:26:17,877 BUT THEY DID. 641 00:26:17,910 --> 00:26:19,812 (SHARP) THE CARD-BACKS TO ME WERE AS NEAT 642 00:26:19,846 --> 00:26:21,380 AS THE FIGURES, EVEN AS A CHILD. 643 00:26:21,413 --> 00:26:22,749 NOT ONLY DID YOU GET THE FIGURE, 644 00:26:22,782 --> 00:26:24,784 BUT YOU GOT THIS BIG COLOR IMAGE 645 00:26:24,817 --> 00:26:27,620 OF THAT CHARACTER IN THE MOVIE. 646 00:26:27,654 --> 00:26:30,156 THAT WAS SORT OF PART OF THE TOY. 647 00:26:30,189 --> 00:26:32,959 WHEN I WAS A KID, I DON'T THINK 648 00:26:32,992 --> 00:26:34,827 FINDING A BEAT UP CARD 649 00:26:34,861 --> 00:26:36,796 WOULD HAVE BEEN ACCEPTABLE TO ME 650 00:26:36,829 --> 00:26:40,366 BECAUSE YOU WANT TO RIP THROUGH A FRESH CARD. 651 00:26:40,399 --> 00:26:42,368 YOU WANT TO RIP THROUGH A FRESH CARD. 652 00:26:42,401 --> 00:26:44,170 I, NOWADAYS, LOOK FOR FIGURES 653 00:26:44,203 --> 00:26:47,707 THAT ARE IN THE BEST CONDITION. 654 00:26:47,740 --> 00:26:52,344 I WANTED TO BE REMINDED OF ACTUALLY SEEING THESE FIGURES 655 00:26:52,378 --> 00:26:55,848 FOR THE FIRST TIME AT THE TOY STORE. 656 00:26:55,882 --> 00:26:59,719 THIS IS A EARLY CONCEPTUAL SKETCH, 657 00:26:59,752 --> 00:27:02,388 KIND OF THE ROUGH-OUT IDEAS FOR THE "STAR WARS" PACKAGING. 658 00:27:02,421 --> 00:27:04,857 YOU SEE THAT THE TOP HAS THE PYRAMIDAL LOGO 659 00:27:04,891 --> 00:27:07,359 WHICH YOU SEE IN SOME EARLY "STAR WARS" PRODUCTS. 660 00:27:07,393 --> 00:27:09,095 IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE IT'S "STAR WARS" 661 00:27:09,128 --> 00:27:10,663 FADING INTO THE BACKGROUND. 662 00:27:10,697 --> 00:27:12,865 SOME COMMENTARY ABOUT THE RACETRACK 663 00:27:12,899 --> 00:27:14,967 PIPING AROUND THE FIGURE, 664 00:27:15,001 --> 00:27:18,671 WHICH DID MAKE IT'S WAY INTO THE FINAL PRODUCT. 665 00:27:18,705 --> 00:27:21,007 YOU'LL SEE ALSO THAT THERE'S A STAR BEHIND THE FIGURE 666 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,743 RATHER THAN A RECTANGLE, A COLORED RECTANGLE. 667 00:27:23,776 --> 00:27:26,078 OBVIOUSLY, AS THINGS MOVED ALONG 668 00:27:26,112 --> 00:27:28,014 IN THE DESIGN PROCESS, 669 00:27:28,047 --> 00:27:30,416 IT GOT MORE TO THE TRADITIONAL LOOK. 670 00:27:30,449 --> 00:27:33,319 THE DISTINCTIVE DOUBLE SILVER-PIPING 671 00:27:33,352 --> 00:27:34,754 IS AROUND THE SIDE. 672 00:27:34,787 --> 00:27:35,955 THE DISTINCTIVE LOGO, 673 00:27:35,988 --> 00:27:37,389 IT'S NOT THE PYRAMIDAL LOGO ANYMORE. 674 00:27:37,423 --> 00:27:39,325 HERE, IT LOOKS THOUGH LIKE THEY'RE USING 675 00:27:39,358 --> 00:27:40,893 THE HILDEBRANDT LUKE AND LEIA 676 00:27:40,927 --> 00:27:43,095 RATHER THAN AS A SMALL DESIGN ELEMENT, 677 00:27:43,129 --> 00:27:44,897 AS THE MAIN CARD ART. 678 00:27:44,931 --> 00:27:46,465 IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS, LIKE, AN IDEA 679 00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:49,368 FOR A UNIFIED CARD ART ACROSS THE WHOLE LINE. 680 00:27:49,401 --> 00:27:50,870 WHEREAS THE FINAL FIGURES WOULD HAVE HAD, 681 00:27:50,903 --> 00:27:52,304 IF IT WAS A DARTH VADER FIGURE, YOU KNOW, 682 00:27:52,338 --> 00:27:54,306 HAS A PICTURE OF DARTH VADER. 683 00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:56,909 KENNER, UNLIKE ANY OTHER TOY LINE, 684 00:27:56,943 --> 00:27:58,444 PUT AT THE BACK OF THE PACKAGE 685 00:27:58,477 --> 00:28:01,180 "COLLECT ALL 77!" OR 65 OR 92. 686 00:28:01,213 --> 00:28:03,049 AND REALLY NO OTHER TOY LINES, EVEN THOUGH I WAS INTO 687 00:28:03,082 --> 00:28:05,417 LOTS OF OTHER TOYS, WERE REALLY LIKE THAT. 688 00:28:05,451 --> 00:28:06,753 YOU KNOW, THEY CONTINUED TO BUILD 689 00:28:06,786 --> 00:28:07,920 ON THE BACK OF THOSE PACKAGES 690 00:28:07,954 --> 00:28:09,455 THIS IDEA THAT YOU COULD GET 'EM ALL. 691 00:28:09,488 --> 00:28:10,790 YOU COULD KIND OF SEE WHERE THAT WOULD COME FROM. 692 00:28:10,823 --> 00:28:12,191 LIKE, HEY, WE HAVE A LINE HERE 693 00:28:12,224 --> 00:28:14,493 WHERE YOU'RE NOT GONNA WANT YOUR FAVORITE CHARACTER, 694 00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:16,262 YOU'RE GONNA WANT EVERY CHARACTER. 695 00:28:16,295 --> 00:28:18,330 IT WAS... 696 00:28:18,364 --> 00:28:20,032 IT WAS LIKE EGGING YOU ON. 697 00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:22,368 THE BACK OF THE CARD-BACK SAYS, YOU KNOW, "COLLECT ALL 92." 698 00:28:22,401 --> 00:28:25,004 IT DOESN'T ASK YOU TO, IT TELLS YOU TO. 699 00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:26,505 YOU'D GET, KIND OF, THIS ANXIETY 700 00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:28,074 IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM ALL. 701 00:28:28,107 --> 00:28:29,942 AND THAT STAYED WITH ME ALL THROUGH MY CHILDHOOD 702 00:28:29,976 --> 00:28:31,944 COLLECTING THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW? 703 00:28:31,978 --> 00:28:34,246 I CAN REMEMBER THAT'S HOW KIDS USED TO KEEP TRACK. 704 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,949 YOU'D KEEP A SPARE CARD-BACK AROUND YOUR HOUSE. 705 00:28:36,983 --> 00:28:39,485 ALL THE ACTION FIGURES WERE PICTURED ON THE BACK, 706 00:28:39,518 --> 00:28:42,521 AND WHEN YOU GOT ONE, YOU'D "X" IT OFF. 707 00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:44,791 I WOULD CONSTRUCT LISTS OF ONES I WANTED. 708 00:28:44,824 --> 00:28:47,059 I ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED LISTS OF ONES I DIDN'T WANT. 709 00:28:47,093 --> 00:28:50,763 SO, YOU KNOW, IF I SENT MY DAD TO THE STORE FOR AN IG-88, 710 00:28:50,797 --> 00:28:53,499 HE BETTER NOT COME HOME WITH, YOU KNOW, A BESPIN GUARD 711 00:28:53,532 --> 00:28:57,003 OR LOBOT OR ONE OF THOSE POOR GUYS. 712 00:28:57,036 --> 00:28:59,138 I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, SITTING IN THE TOY AISLE 713 00:28:59,171 --> 00:29:01,007 WITH MY BROTHER, LOOKING OVER THE BACK OF THE CARDS, 714 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,309 LOOKING FOR FIGURES THAT, UM... 715 00:29:03,342 --> 00:29:05,044 DID THEY HAVE THEM YET? 716 00:29:05,077 --> 00:29:07,479 "RETURN OF THE JEDI," THEY HAD A FEW BLACKED OUT, THE EWOKS. 717 00:29:07,513 --> 00:29:09,081 SO YOU WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE. 718 00:29:09,115 --> 00:29:11,250 AND SITTING THERE AND THINKING, YOU KNOW, 719 00:29:11,283 --> 00:29:12,819 WHAT WAS THIS ABOUT? 720 00:29:12,852 --> 00:29:14,553 AND WHO ARE THESE, AND WHY WERE THEY BLACKED OUT? 721 00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:15,988 THEY MUST BE REALLY SPECIAL. 722 00:29:16,022 --> 00:29:19,859 UM... WE DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER. 723 00:29:19,892 --> 00:29:22,094 REALLY, PEOPLE DIDN'T COLLECT TOYS BACK THEN. 724 00:29:22,128 --> 00:29:24,230 BUT THEY WERE ACTUALLY CREATING THIS WHOLE CULTURE 725 00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:26,465 OF KIDS TRYING TO COLLECT ALL THE TOYS. 726 00:29:26,498 --> 00:29:29,368 THE COLLECT-ALL PHILOSOPHY 727 00:29:29,401 --> 00:29:31,570 IS, I THINK, A PRETTY IMPORTANT IDEA 728 00:29:31,603 --> 00:29:34,073 BEHIND THE EARLY SUCCESS OF THE TOYS. 729 00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:35,942 NOT THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL ANYWAY, 730 00:29:35,975 --> 00:29:37,877 BUT I THINK MOST KIDS AT THAT TIME 731 00:29:37,910 --> 00:29:40,512 DEFINITELY REMEMBER THAT WHOLE 732 00:29:40,546 --> 00:29:43,916 UM... CALL TO COLLECT ALL OF THESE FIGURES. 733 00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:45,551 IT IS PRETTY INSIDIOUS WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, 734 00:29:45,584 --> 00:29:47,086 BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS FUN-- 735 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:50,489 IT WAS A FUN SORT OF INSIDIOUS. 736 00:29:50,522 --> 00:29:53,459 NOW YOU CAN GET THIS NEW 4-LOM ACTION FIGURE FREE 737 00:29:53,492 --> 00:29:55,261 FOR FIVE PROOFS OF PURCHASE FROM ANY 738 00:29:55,294 --> 00:29:56,562 "STAR WARS" ACTION FIGURES. 739 00:29:56,595 --> 00:29:58,164 DETAILS ON SPECIALLY MARKED PACKAGES 740 00:29:58,197 --> 00:29:59,832 AT PARTICIPATING STORES. OFFER EXPIRES-- 741 00:29:59,866 --> 00:30:01,100 YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR THEY'D HAVE A DIFFERENT 742 00:30:01,133 --> 00:30:02,368 MAIL-AWAY FIGURE, JUST ABOUT. 743 00:30:02,401 --> 00:30:04,070 AND YOU'D HAVE TO COLLECT 744 00:30:04,103 --> 00:30:05,905 THE PROOF OF PURCHASE FROM THE BACK OF THE BLISTER CARD. 745 00:30:05,938 --> 00:30:07,239 SO YOU'D HAVE TO CUT IT OUT. 746 00:30:07,273 --> 00:30:09,608 AND YOU'D NEED, YOU KNOW, FIVE PROOFS OF PURCHASE 747 00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:12,311 OR WHATEVER IT WAS TO GET ADMIRAL AKBAR 748 00:30:12,344 --> 00:30:13,980 OR ANAKIN SKYWALKER. 749 00:30:14,013 --> 00:30:15,614 WHEN YOU WENT TO THE TOY STORE, 750 00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:17,516 YOU COULD LOOK AND SEE ALL THE ACTION FIGURES. 751 00:30:17,549 --> 00:30:19,451 YOU COULD LOOK AND SEE ALL THE SPACESHIPS. 752 00:30:19,485 --> 00:30:21,387 THIS WASN'T SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD BUY IN A STORE, 753 00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:23,622 SO IT WAS A NEW "STAR WARS" THING. 754 00:30:23,655 --> 00:30:25,858 A LOT OF TIMES THEY'D DO IT AS A CARROT 755 00:30:25,892 --> 00:30:28,427 TO GET YOU ABOUT A NEW UPCOMING FILM, 756 00:30:28,460 --> 00:30:30,129 A NEW, SECRET CHARACTER. 757 00:30:30,162 --> 00:30:32,364 THEY WOULD TRY TO KIND OF KEEP IT MYSTERIOUS 758 00:30:32,398 --> 00:30:35,601 AND KEEP THE MYSTIQUE OF THE NEW CHARACTER THERE. 759 00:30:35,634 --> 00:30:37,203 (ANNOUNCER) AND NOW, BOBA FETT, 760 00:30:37,236 --> 00:30:39,939 "STAR WARS" VILLAIN, WITH HIS LASER RIFLE. 761 00:30:39,972 --> 00:30:41,507 BOBA FETT IS NOT YET AVAILABLE IN STORES, 762 00:30:41,540 --> 00:30:43,042 BUT YOU CAN GET HIM FREE 763 00:30:43,075 --> 00:30:44,543 WITH FOUR PROOFS OF PURCHASE FROM ANY 764 00:30:44,576 --> 00:30:46,112 "STAR WARS" ACTION FIGURES. 765 00:30:46,145 --> 00:30:49,248 KENNER, IN LATE 1978, BEGAN ADVERTISING 766 00:30:49,281 --> 00:30:52,018 ITS FIRST ACTION FIGURE MAIL-AWAY OFFER FOR BOBA FETT. 767 00:30:52,051 --> 00:30:54,120 AND IN THOSE ILLUSTRATIONS 768 00:30:54,153 --> 00:30:56,322 AND PHOTOGRAPHY THEY SHOWED FOR THIS OFFER, 769 00:30:56,355 --> 00:30:59,258 BOBA FETT HAD A ROCKET-FIRING BACKPACK. 770 00:30:59,291 --> 00:31:00,960 WHEN WE WERE KIDS, 771 00:31:00,993 --> 00:31:03,429 WE SAW THE ROCKET-FIRING BOBA FETT 772 00:31:03,462 --> 00:31:05,031 ON THE BACK OF THE CARDS, 773 00:31:05,064 --> 00:31:07,133 AND WE WERE TOTALLY EXPECTING TO GET THIS FIGURE. 774 00:31:07,166 --> 00:31:10,903 AND WHEN IT CAME, IT WASN'T WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS. 775 00:31:10,937 --> 00:31:12,104 (LOPEZ) KENNER HAD LOOKED AT 776 00:31:12,138 --> 00:31:13,906 THIS ROCKET-FIRING MECHANISM, 777 00:31:13,940 --> 00:31:16,042 AND FOUND THAT IT WAS A HUGE SAFETY HAZARD. 778 00:31:16,075 --> 00:31:17,643 THEY WERE NEVER SHIPPED TO KIDS. 779 00:31:17,676 --> 00:31:19,979 BUT BEFORE THE TOY WENT INTO PRODUCTION, 780 00:31:20,012 --> 00:31:22,181 KENNER HAD MADE SOME PROTOTYPES OF IT. 781 00:31:22,214 --> 00:31:23,916 SO, THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS THE-- 782 00:31:23,950 --> 00:31:25,517 WHAT THEY CALL THE "L-SLOT VERSION" 783 00:31:25,551 --> 00:31:27,119 OF ROCKET-FIRING BOBA FETT. 784 00:31:27,153 --> 00:31:30,056 THERE'S A CAVITY THAT'S THE SHAPE OF A BACKWARDS "L" 785 00:31:30,089 --> 00:31:32,925 WHERE THE SLIDER WOULD GO DOWN AND THEN TO THE LEFT, 786 00:31:32,959 --> 00:31:34,560 LOCK IN, AND THEN RELEASE A ROCKET. 787 00:31:34,593 --> 00:31:36,128 WELL, THE PROBLEM WITH THIS THING 788 00:31:36,162 --> 00:31:38,931 WAS THAT BECAUSE IT WAS THIS-- THIS L-SHAPE, 789 00:31:38,965 --> 00:31:40,266 IT'D BE EASY TO KIND OF KNOCK THE TAB 790 00:31:40,299 --> 00:31:42,634 AND HAVE THE ROCKET ACCIDENTALLY FIRE. 791 00:31:42,668 --> 00:31:45,004 THEY THEN UPDATED THIS TO THE J-SLOT 792 00:31:45,037 --> 00:31:46,672 ROCKET-FIRING BOBA FETT. 793 00:31:46,705 --> 00:31:48,674 AND YOU CAN SEE THE SLOT IS THE SHAPE OF A "J." 794 00:31:48,707 --> 00:31:50,576 AND IT WOULD HOOK AROUND THIS "J," 795 00:31:50,609 --> 00:31:52,178 BUT THE LITTLE PIECE AT THE BOTTOM 796 00:31:52,211 --> 00:31:54,013 COULD BREAK OFF VERY EASILY. 797 00:31:54,046 --> 00:31:55,514 THERE ARE A FEW OTHER STYLES AND DIFFERENCES 798 00:31:55,547 --> 00:31:57,149 THAT HAVE TURNED UP OVER THE YEARS. 799 00:31:57,183 --> 00:31:59,018 NOT VERY MANY, OF COURSE, THESE ARE EXTREMELY RARE, 800 00:31:59,051 --> 00:32:02,388 BUT THOSE ARE THE MAJOR DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS THEY HAD. 801 00:32:02,421 --> 00:32:04,323 KIDS NEVER GOT THIS TOY. 802 00:32:04,356 --> 00:32:06,292 THERE ARE COUNTLESS STORIES OF PEOPLE WHO REMEMBER 803 00:32:06,325 --> 00:32:07,593 GETTING A ROCKET-FIRING BOBA FETT, 804 00:32:07,626 --> 00:32:08,660 BUT THAT NEVER HAPPENED. 805 00:32:08,694 --> 00:32:10,963 THEY WERE NEVER SHIPPED TO KIDS. 806 00:32:15,501 --> 00:32:18,470 ONE DAY, I COME HOME AND I GET OFF THE SCHOOL BUS, 807 00:32:18,504 --> 00:32:21,107 AND MY FRIEND IS WAITING THERE, 808 00:32:21,140 --> 00:32:24,710 AND HE'S HOLDING A LANDSPEEDER. 809 00:32:24,743 --> 00:32:28,714 ** (ANGELIC CHOIR) 810 00:32:28,747 --> 00:32:30,983 AND OF COURSE, I JUST FREAK OUT. 811 00:32:31,017 --> 00:32:31,984 "THAT'S SO COOL! WOW! 812 00:32:32,018 --> 00:32:33,452 LET ME SEE IT! LET ME--" 813 00:32:33,485 --> 00:32:35,454 HE WAS THERE TO PLAY WITH ONE OF THE OTHER KIDS THAT DAY. 814 00:32:35,487 --> 00:32:38,190 REALLY?! 815 00:32:38,224 --> 00:32:41,994 UM, UP HERE I HAVE THE ORIGINAL, VINTAGE TIE FIGHTER 816 00:32:42,028 --> 00:32:45,164 THAT I RECEIVED WHEN I WAS SIX YEARS OLD. 817 00:32:46,498 --> 00:32:47,699 YOU KNOW, IT HAS A COCKPIT, 818 00:32:47,733 --> 00:32:49,201 YOU CAN PUT THE FIGURES IN. 819 00:32:51,803 --> 00:32:53,772 THIS IS MY CHILDHOOD MILLENNIUM FALCON 820 00:32:53,805 --> 00:32:57,609 WHICH I RECEIVED FOR CHRISTMAS OF '81, I THINK, 821 00:32:57,643 --> 00:32:59,011 OR MAYBE 1980. 822 00:32:59,045 --> 00:33:01,113 AND IT'S A BIT WORSE FOR WEAR, 823 00:33:01,147 --> 00:33:03,349 IT'S FAIRLY BEAT UP, BUT IT'S-- 824 00:33:03,382 --> 00:33:05,584 THIS TOY, I PROBABLY PLAYED WITH MORE THAN ANYTHING. 825 00:33:05,617 --> 00:33:08,754 I MEAN, THE MILLENNIUM FALCON'S SUPPOSED TO BE BEAT UP ANYWAY. 826 00:33:08,787 --> 00:33:11,090 UH, THIS... 827 00:33:11,123 --> 00:33:14,260 IS MY ORIGINAL X-WING. 828 00:33:14,293 --> 00:33:18,664 IT HAS NO COCKPIT, MOST OF THE WINGS ARE GONE, 829 00:33:18,697 --> 00:33:21,633 THERE'S HARDLY ANY STICKERS LEFT, 830 00:33:21,667 --> 00:33:23,802 BUT I WILL... 831 00:33:23,835 --> 00:33:26,705 NEVER PART WITH IT. (CHUCKLES) 832 00:33:26,738 --> 00:33:29,308 WHEN YOU PICK UP THAT KENNER X-WING, 833 00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:31,077 AND YOU PUSH DOWN ON THE R2-D2, 834 00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:32,778 AND THE WINGS POP OPEN, 835 00:33:32,811 --> 00:33:34,713 YOU'RE IN THAT. 836 00:33:34,746 --> 00:33:36,548 THESE WERE A WAY FOR ME 837 00:33:36,582 --> 00:33:39,185 TO FEEL LIKE I WAS FLYING AROUND IN THAT X-WING. 838 00:33:39,218 --> 00:33:44,090 (SANSWEET) CLEARLY, THEY SAW THIS RICH UNIVERSE 839 00:33:44,123 --> 00:33:46,125 OF "STAR WARS" 840 00:33:46,158 --> 00:33:47,426 THAT GEORGE HAD CREATED 841 00:33:47,459 --> 00:33:50,662 WITH ALL THESE ENVIRONMENTS AND SHIPS, 842 00:33:50,696 --> 00:33:53,399 AND UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS WAS A LINE. 843 00:33:53,432 --> 00:33:55,767 IT WAS NOT JUST A FEW EIGHT-INCH, 844 00:33:55,801 --> 00:33:58,070 CLOTH COVERED DOLLS. 845 00:33:58,104 --> 00:34:01,807 YEAH, I THINK IT WAS COGNIZANT OF THE DESIGN DEPARTMENT 846 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,577 TO GIVE THE CHILDREN A WORLD TO PLAY IN... 847 00:34:05,611 --> 00:34:07,079 WITH "STAR WARS," 848 00:34:07,113 --> 00:34:10,716 AS MUCH AS LUCAS TRIED TO CREATE ONE ON CAMERA. 849 00:34:10,749 --> 00:34:12,418 I THINK, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE SOME OF THE-- 850 00:34:12,451 --> 00:34:15,187 SOME OF THE MOST PLAYABLE AND BEST DESIGNED OF THE TOYS. 851 00:34:15,221 --> 00:34:16,188 I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THE RANCOR, 852 00:34:16,222 --> 00:34:17,623 WHAT'S NOT TO LIKE? 853 00:34:17,656 --> 00:34:20,092 A BIG MONSTER YOU COULD PLAY, YOU KNOW, ON ITS OWN. 854 00:34:20,126 --> 00:34:22,128 HAD A LOT OF MONSTER BATTLES IN THE BACKYARD 855 00:34:22,161 --> 00:34:24,196 WITH THIS PARTICULAR GUY. 856 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:26,332 THE OBJECTIVE, ALWAYS, 857 00:34:26,365 --> 00:34:30,236 IT WAS THE WORD THAT LOOMIS USED CONSTANTLY 858 00:34:30,269 --> 00:34:32,238 IN HIS CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL OF US, 859 00:34:32,271 --> 00:34:35,541 IS SHOW ME THE PLAY-VALUE. 860 00:34:35,574 --> 00:34:39,645 WHAT PLAY-VALUE ARE WE GIVING THESE KIDS? 861 00:34:39,678 --> 00:34:41,713 EVERY PRODUCT THAT BECAME A TOY 862 00:34:41,747 --> 00:34:44,516 HAD TO HAVE CHILD INVOLVEMENT 863 00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:46,618 AS PART OF THE PREMISE. 864 00:34:46,652 --> 00:34:48,687 SO, IT WASN'T A TOY WITHOUT IT. 865 00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:50,189 OTHERWISE, IT WAS A COLLECTIBLE. 866 00:34:50,222 --> 00:34:52,191 IT WAS A BASEBALL CARD. 867 00:34:52,224 --> 00:34:55,261 THE EWOK PLAY-SET WAS PROBABLY THE MOST FUN PLAY-SET 868 00:34:55,294 --> 00:34:56,862 THAT I DID WHILE I WAS AT KENNER. 869 00:34:56,895 --> 00:34:59,798 I WANTED MY MODEL TO LOOK EXACTLY 870 00:34:59,831 --> 00:35:02,334 LIKE THE MOVIE SET. 871 00:35:02,368 --> 00:35:05,304 THEY HAD AN ARTIST DO A PICTURE 872 00:35:05,337 --> 00:35:07,739 OF WHAT THE EWOK VILLAGE WOULD LOOK LIKE. 873 00:35:07,773 --> 00:35:09,475 AND THEY GAVE THAT TO ONE OF THEIR-- 874 00:35:09,508 --> 00:35:11,243 THEIR, UH, EMPLOYEES, 875 00:35:11,277 --> 00:35:13,479 AND HE WENT AND TOOK STICKS AND STONES 876 00:35:13,512 --> 00:35:17,816 AND BUILT A HAND-MADE PROTOTYPE OF THE EWOK VILLAGE. 877 00:35:17,849 --> 00:35:19,685 EVERY LUNCH BREAK, I WOULD GO OUT, 878 00:35:19,718 --> 00:35:20,686 WANDER THROUGH THE PARK. 879 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,753 I SPENT A LOT OF WEEKENDS 880 00:35:21,787 --> 00:35:23,155 JUST WANDERING AROUND THE WOODS 881 00:35:23,189 --> 00:35:25,224 LOOKING FOR THE EXACT, RIGHT STICK. 882 00:35:25,257 --> 00:35:26,792 I'D JUST COME INTO WORK WITH A-- 883 00:35:26,825 --> 00:35:28,760 A BUCKET FULL OF STICKS AND BARK, 884 00:35:28,794 --> 00:35:30,662 AND I JUST BUILT IT. 885 00:35:30,696 --> 00:35:32,231 THERE WAS A PASSION THERE. 886 00:35:32,264 --> 00:35:34,300 I MEAN, THESE GUYS WEREN'T JUST PUNCHING THE CLOCK. 887 00:35:34,333 --> 00:35:37,169 THEY REALLY LOVED WHAT THEY DID, 888 00:35:37,203 --> 00:35:38,537 AND THEY LOVED MAKING TOYS 889 00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:42,774 THAT KIDS WOULD GET-- HAVE EXCITING TIME WITH. 890 00:35:42,808 --> 00:35:44,343 THERE CAME A DAY 891 00:35:44,376 --> 00:35:47,613 THAT IT WAS NECESSARY TO COME UP WITH A PRODUCT 892 00:35:47,646 --> 00:35:49,448 THAT USED A TALKING DEVICE 893 00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:51,950 WHICH WAS SUPPLIED BY OZEN SOUND COMPANY. 894 00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:54,620 IT WAS USED IN A LOT OF TOYS PREVIOUSLY. 895 00:35:54,653 --> 00:35:56,655 (DOLL) LET'S PLAY HOUSE. 896 00:35:56,688 --> 00:35:59,291 AND THEY WANTED TO MAINTAIN A RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS COMPANY 897 00:35:59,325 --> 00:36:00,726 WITHIN THE "STAR WARS" LINE. 898 00:36:00,759 --> 00:36:01,927 (ANNOUNCER) THE "STAR WARS" IMPERIAL 899 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,495 TROOP TRANSPORTER. (LASER SOUNDS) 900 00:36:03,529 --> 00:36:05,297 WHAT'S THAT? IT'S MY TROOP TRANSPORTER! 901 00:36:05,331 --> 00:36:07,866 IT MAKES FIVE MORE SOUNDS TOO! 902 00:36:07,899 --> 00:36:10,536 (TOY) R2-D2, WHERE ARE YOU? 903 00:36:10,569 --> 00:36:12,204 (R2-D2 BLEEPING) 904 00:36:12,238 --> 00:36:14,973 SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT WERE BOUNCED 905 00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:17,343 ARE HERE. 906 00:36:17,376 --> 00:36:19,745 THIS WAS A-- SORT OF LIKE A MONO-WHEEL. 907 00:36:19,778 --> 00:36:21,447 NOT VERY POSSIBLE IN A TOY, 908 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,983 THOUGH PROBABLY GREAT FOR FILM. 909 00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:29,255 AND HERE WE HAVE A BOBA FETT-ISH SORT OF GUY 910 00:36:29,288 --> 00:36:32,224 RIDING A FUNNY-LOOKING MOTORCYCLE. 911 00:36:32,258 --> 00:36:35,261 A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG, 912 00:36:35,294 --> 00:36:38,497 WE GOT TO A POINT WHERE THERE WAS A TROOP TRANSPORT 913 00:36:38,530 --> 00:36:41,433 WITH MAYBE SOME GUARDS ON IT. 914 00:36:41,467 --> 00:36:43,969 THE DOUBLE-POINTED VERSION CAME ABOUT 915 00:36:44,002 --> 00:36:45,971 BECAUSE I WANTED TO HAVE A PRISONER 916 00:36:46,004 --> 00:36:49,007 OR A DROID IN THE CENTER. 917 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,345 AND IN THIS CASE, WE WENT TO MAKING A BLACK R2-D2 918 00:36:53,379 --> 00:36:55,347 TO BE THE BAD DROID 919 00:36:55,381 --> 00:36:58,016 THAT WORKED FOR THE IMPERIAL GUYS. 920 00:36:58,049 --> 00:37:01,387 WELL, THE POINTY VERSION WAS PROBLEMATIC 921 00:37:01,420 --> 00:37:03,789 FOR SOMEBODY, AESTHETICALLY, AT LUCASFILM. 922 00:37:03,822 --> 00:37:05,291 THEY CAME BACK WITH ANOTHER SKETCH, 923 00:37:05,324 --> 00:37:06,925 AND JOE JOHNSTON DID THAT. 924 00:37:06,958 --> 00:37:09,261 AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE THE BLUNT-NOSED VERSION 925 00:37:09,295 --> 00:37:10,829 THAT YOU SAW IN PRODUCTION. 926 00:37:13,499 --> 00:37:15,501 HERE WE ARE IN OAKLEY AT THE KENNER MORGUE. 927 00:37:15,534 --> 00:37:18,404 80% OF THIS MASSIVE FACILITY WAS ALL KENNER. 928 00:37:18,437 --> 00:37:20,339 THIS IS WHERE OLD KENNER IDEAS WERE KEPT. 929 00:37:20,372 --> 00:37:22,341 THIS IS ALSO WHERE THEY DID A LOT OF THEIR PHOTOGRAPHY 930 00:37:22,374 --> 00:37:24,376 FOR CATALOGS AND OTHER ITEMS. 931 00:37:24,410 --> 00:37:26,578 OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPENED HERE WERE QUALITY CONTROL. 932 00:37:26,612 --> 00:37:28,614 A LOT OF CHOKE HAZARDS WERE HANDLED HERE. 933 00:37:28,647 --> 00:37:31,016 THEY ALSO HAD A GIANT SAND-BOX THAT YOU COULD THROW TOYS IN 934 00:37:31,049 --> 00:37:34,052 TO SEE HOW THEY DO IN THE SAND. 935 00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:36,054 NO, I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WAS A ROCK STAR 936 00:37:36,087 --> 00:37:38,056 OR ANYBODY SPECIAL OR DIFFERENT, 937 00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:42,027 BUT IT DID SEEM TO GO WELL WITH PEOPLE 938 00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:43,362 THAT YOU WOULD MEET AROUND TOWN. 939 00:37:43,395 --> 00:37:44,696 THEY SAY, "OH, WHAT DO YOU DO?" 940 00:37:44,730 --> 00:37:46,532 "OH, I DESIGN 'STAR WARS' TOYS FOR KENNER." 941 00:37:46,565 --> 00:37:48,800 "OH, THAT MUST BE A COOL JOB!" 942 00:37:48,834 --> 00:37:50,936 "YES, IT IS." 943 00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:54,039 I BELIEVE THAT, AT THAT TIME, 944 00:37:54,072 --> 00:37:57,042 KENNER WAS THE PLACE TO BE IN THE TOY INDUSTRY, 945 00:37:57,075 --> 00:38:00,045 NOT JUST FOR DESIGNERS, BUT FOR MARKETING PEOPLE 946 00:38:00,078 --> 00:38:02,314 AND UPPER-MANAGEMENT AS WELL. 947 00:38:02,348 --> 00:38:04,383 THAT'S WHY WE ATTRACTED SO MANY PEOPLE 948 00:38:04,416 --> 00:38:06,818 FROM OTHER BIG TOY COMPANIES 949 00:38:06,852 --> 00:38:08,787 I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO WORK ON A DOLL LINE TODAY, 950 00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:09,955 WHERE ARE YOU GONNA GO? 951 00:38:09,988 --> 00:38:11,590 BARBIE. NUMBER ONE. GO TO THE TOP. 952 00:38:11,623 --> 00:38:13,058 AND AT THAT TIME, IF YOU WANTED TO DO 953 00:38:13,091 --> 00:38:16,094 REALLY COOL VEHICLES AND SPACE STUFF, 954 00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:17,529 "STAR WARS" WAS IT. 955 00:38:17,563 --> 00:38:18,897 I FELT LIKE I BELONGED THERE 956 00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:21,333 BECAUSE ALL OF THE OTHER PEOPLE AND CHARACTERS THERE 957 00:38:21,367 --> 00:38:23,635 WERE A LITTLE BIT ECCENTRIC AND STRANGE. 958 00:38:23,669 --> 00:38:27,005 THEY TENDED TO FRAME THAT ENVIRONMENT, 959 00:38:27,038 --> 00:38:30,876 AND ME IN IT, IN A COMFORTABLE WAY. 960 00:38:30,909 --> 00:38:33,345 IT WAS LIKE A FRATERNITY OF DESIGNERS 961 00:38:33,379 --> 00:38:36,114 THAT WERE REALLY HONING THEIR SKILLS 962 00:38:36,147 --> 00:38:38,950 AND REALLY USING THEIR SKILLS TO CREATE 963 00:38:38,984 --> 00:38:42,354 THESE AMAZINGLY DIFFERENT THINGS. 964 00:38:42,388 --> 00:38:44,089 KENNER WAS A VERY SOCIAL COMPANY. 965 00:38:44,122 --> 00:38:46,358 AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE WOULD THROW 966 00:38:46,392 --> 00:38:49,395 DIFFERENT SOCIAL EVENTS, PARTIES, WHATEVER. 967 00:38:50,128 --> 00:38:52,931 THIS IS, UM, A BROCHURE 968 00:38:52,964 --> 00:38:54,566 FOR THE AFTER HOURS. 969 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,602 IT WAS, UH, THIS ONE'S SECOND ANNUAL KENNER EMPLOYEE 970 00:38:56,635 --> 00:39:00,038 ART SHOW DONE AT A GALLERY IN CINCINNATI. 971 00:39:00,071 --> 00:39:02,708 THESE WERE ACTUAL ARTISTS DOING REAL WORK 972 00:39:02,741 --> 00:39:04,610 FOR A TOY COMPANY. 973 00:39:04,643 --> 00:39:06,578 THE OUTDOOR ADVENTURERS CLUB. 974 00:39:06,612 --> 00:39:08,514 AND IT SHOWS SOME OF THESE GUYS GOING OUT 975 00:39:08,547 --> 00:39:11,883 AND HUNTING AND CAMPING AND STUFF. 976 00:39:11,917 --> 00:39:14,119 THERE WAS, UM... 977 00:39:14,152 --> 00:39:16,021 THE NOW INFAMOUS 978 00:39:16,054 --> 00:39:19,591 HALLOWEEN TOY SHOW... 979 00:39:19,625 --> 00:39:22,828 WHERE EVERYBODY WAS SUPPOSED TO COME UP WITH 980 00:39:22,861 --> 00:39:24,596 SOME SORT OF SOMETHING 981 00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:27,866 TO SHOW AS A TOY FOR HALLOWEEN. 982 00:39:27,899 --> 00:39:30,536 I HAD THIS MONKEY AT HOME. 983 00:39:30,569 --> 00:39:33,138 (IMITATING MONKEY BARKING) 984 00:39:33,171 --> 00:39:36,842 I JUST SAW ANOTHER ROLE FOR THAT MONKEY. 985 00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:38,143 THE FLASHER MONKEY. 986 00:39:38,176 --> 00:39:41,146 IT WAS A GREAT TOY. REALLY GREAT. 987 00:39:41,179 --> 00:39:43,815 DUM-DUM DUM. 988 00:39:43,849 --> 00:39:44,883 WELL, IT'S A TOY COMPANY. 989 00:39:44,916 --> 00:39:46,151 YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FUN. 990 00:39:46,184 --> 00:39:48,620 I MEAN, THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH MY ATTITUDE. 991 00:39:48,654 --> 00:39:52,023 I'M DESIGNING THE COOLEST TOYS IN THE UNIVERSE 992 00:39:52,057 --> 00:39:53,759 AND MY JOB'S THE BEST ONE IN THE WORLD, 993 00:39:53,792 --> 00:39:56,762 SO WHAT'S NOT TO LIKE ABOUT THAT? 994 00:39:56,795 --> 00:39:59,498 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ADMIRED ABOUT BERNIE LOOMIS 995 00:39:59,531 --> 00:40:02,668 IS THAT BERNIE HAD, UM, 996 00:40:02,701 --> 00:40:05,671 AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN YOU HAVE CREATIVE PEOPLE, 997 00:40:05,704 --> 00:40:08,740 YOU GOTTA GIVE THEM AN OUTLET FOR IT. 998 00:40:08,774 --> 00:40:10,542 YOU CAN'T JUST TELL 'EM WHAT TO DO, 999 00:40:10,576 --> 00:40:12,511 AND GO DESIGN THIS. 1000 00:40:12,544 --> 00:40:15,947 I'M THINKING ABOUT ONE PARTICULAR IDEA I HAD 1001 00:40:15,981 --> 00:40:17,182 WHEN I GOT THERE. 1002 00:40:17,215 --> 00:40:21,186 IT WAS CALLED AN R2-D2 CHOO-CHOO. 1003 00:40:21,219 --> 00:40:24,055 TAKING AN R2-D2, A LITTLE THREE-AND-A-QUARTER 1004 00:40:24,089 --> 00:40:26,157 OR WHATEVER IT WAS, BENDING HIM OVER, 1005 00:40:26,191 --> 00:40:28,093 AND HAVING A REMOVABLE HEAD ON THE NEXT ONE 1006 00:40:28,126 --> 00:40:30,095 AND SHOVING IT INTO THE BOTTOM OF THAT ONE, 1007 00:40:30,128 --> 00:40:31,697 AND ON AND ON AND ON 1008 00:40:31,730 --> 00:40:33,799 SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE A CHOO-CHOO OF R2-D2. 1009 00:40:33,832 --> 00:40:36,067 (TRAIN WHISTLE BLOWS) 1010 00:40:36,101 --> 00:40:38,737 IT DIED, BUT NONETHELESS IT WAS WORTH IT 1011 00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:42,474 FOR THE DAY OR HALF A DAY, OR WHATEVER I PUT INTO IT 1012 00:40:42,508 --> 00:40:45,210 TO EXPLORE IT, BECAUSE THE LICENSE WAS THERE. 1013 00:40:45,243 --> 00:40:46,678 THERE WAS MONEY TO BE MADE. 1014 00:40:46,712 --> 00:40:49,515 WHEN WE DEVELOPED THESE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, 1015 00:40:49,548 --> 00:40:53,552 WE WOULD DO RENDERINGS AND CONCEPT IMAGES OF THEM. 1016 00:40:53,585 --> 00:40:56,021 AND THEN THOSE ITEMS WOULD BE TAKEN TO MARKETING, 1017 00:40:56,054 --> 00:40:59,157 AND IF IT LOOKED LIKE A ITEM THAT WOULD SELL WELL 1018 00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:00,692 IN THE MARKET AND ALL THAT, 1019 00:41:00,726 --> 00:41:02,561 WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND DEVELOP THAT. 1020 00:41:02,594 --> 00:41:07,232 EVERY WEEK, THERE WERE DESIGN REVIEW MEETINGS. 1021 00:41:07,265 --> 00:41:09,167 THEY WERE VERY STRESSFUL 1022 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,102 FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WERE PRESENTING. 1023 00:41:11,136 --> 00:41:12,738 (TROY) THERE'D BE BERNIE LOOMIS, 1024 00:41:12,771 --> 00:41:15,841 THE PRESIDENT, AND PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE OTHER PEOPLE 1025 00:41:15,874 --> 00:41:18,209 FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN MARKETING 1026 00:41:18,243 --> 00:41:19,811 THAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT ALL THE PRODUCTS 1027 00:41:19,845 --> 00:41:21,279 BEING PRESENTED. 1028 00:41:21,312 --> 00:41:23,615 AND THERE'D BE MULTIPLE PRESENTERS. 1029 00:41:27,185 --> 00:41:28,654 SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE 1030 00:41:28,687 --> 00:41:30,722 OF ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT I SUBMITTED. 1031 00:41:30,756 --> 00:41:33,124 IT'S ABOUT FOUR-- THREE-FOOT LONG, 1032 00:41:33,158 --> 00:41:36,862 AND IT WAS A BLOW-MOLDED CHAIR THAT LITTLE KIDS COULD SIT IN. 1033 00:41:36,895 --> 00:41:40,265 IT HAD A LITTLE PROJECTOR BOX INSIDE OF IT 1034 00:41:40,298 --> 00:41:43,769 THAT COULD SCROLL THROUGH SOME "STAR WARS" IMAGES. 1035 00:41:43,802 --> 00:41:45,771 AND THEN IT HAD A LIGHT ON THE FRONT OF IT 1036 00:41:45,804 --> 00:41:48,273 SO THAT YOU COULD PROJECT IMAGES ON THE WALL 1037 00:41:48,306 --> 00:41:50,676 AND THEN SHOOT AT THOSE IMAGES ON THE WALL 1038 00:41:50,709 --> 00:41:53,679 WITH THE LITTLE-- LITTLE LED LASER LIGHT. 1039 00:41:53,712 --> 00:41:55,647 THEY WERE CLOSE TO PICKING THIS UP, 1040 00:41:55,681 --> 00:41:58,784 BUT IT REQUIRED A VERY LARGE TOOL AND BLOW-MOLDING. 1041 00:41:58,817 --> 00:42:00,619 I STILL THINK IT WAS A GREAT IDEA, 1042 00:42:00,652 --> 00:42:03,154 BUT IT DIDN'T MAKE IT. 1043 00:42:03,188 --> 00:42:05,090 BERNIE WAS A VERY HARD CRITIC. 1044 00:42:05,123 --> 00:42:09,060 HE WOULD CHEW YOU OUT IF HE DIDN'T LIKE WHAT YOU DID 1045 00:42:09,094 --> 00:42:10,929 IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY. 1046 00:42:10,962 --> 00:42:14,733 OR HE WOULD SAY, "I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA." 1047 00:42:14,766 --> 00:42:18,704 YOU KNOW, "CARRY MY GOLF CLUBS." 1048 00:42:18,737 --> 00:42:21,239 SO THEY WERE CONSIDERING THIS FOR THE VEHICLE LINE, 1049 00:42:21,272 --> 00:42:24,042 FIRST IN '83 AND THEN AGAIN IN '85. 1050 00:42:24,075 --> 00:42:27,012 SO, YOU CAN SEE IT'S GOT A NUMBER OF FEATURES. 1051 00:42:27,045 --> 00:42:29,047 A GUN ON TOP HERE THAT TURNS, 1052 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,984 THERE'S A... AN ESCAPE POD... 1053 00:42:33,018 --> 00:42:34,319 THAT WOULD EJECT, 1054 00:42:34,352 --> 00:42:38,089 AND THE CANOPY THAT OPENS AND CLOSES. 1055 00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:41,359 OKAY, SO THIS IS A FOLDER 1056 00:42:41,392 --> 00:42:44,696 OF SOME CONCEPT DESIGNS. 1057 00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:46,932 THESE ARE ALL DATED 1979. 1058 00:42:46,965 --> 00:42:50,268 SO, THE INTERESTING ON HERE IS A LITTLE MODULE 1059 00:42:50,301 --> 00:42:52,237 YOU'D PUT ONTO YOUR BIKE HANDLEBARS, 1060 00:42:52,270 --> 00:42:53,972 AND ANOTHER LITTLE ONE THAT HAD-- 1061 00:42:54,005 --> 00:42:56,975 GO OVER NEAR THE HANDLE THAT YOU COULD PUNCH A BUTTON 1062 00:42:57,008 --> 00:42:59,811 AND MAKE A LASER SOUND, OR AND IGNITION SOUND 1063 00:42:59,845 --> 00:43:02,814 OF YOUR BIKE, AND A LITTLE TARGETING COMPUTER SCREEN 1064 00:43:02,848 --> 00:43:05,050 HERE, WE'VE GOT A DARTH VADER PENCIL SHARPENER 1065 00:43:05,083 --> 00:43:07,318 WHERE YOU'D PUT THE PENCIL IN DARTH VADER'S NOSE 1066 00:43:07,352 --> 00:43:09,220 TO SHARPEN YOUR PENCIL. 1067 00:43:09,254 --> 00:43:13,358 HERE'S A R2-D2 TELEPHONE. 1068 00:43:13,391 --> 00:43:17,228 AND HERE, FINALLY, IS A R2-D2 GUMBALL MACHINE. 1069 00:43:17,262 --> 00:43:21,066 (TROY) IF IT WASN'T IN THE FILM... 1070 00:43:21,099 --> 00:43:23,334 IT WAS NOT PROHIBITED, 1071 00:43:23,368 --> 00:43:26,738 BUT IT WASN'T NECESSARILY AN ENCOURAGED THING. 1072 00:43:26,772 --> 00:43:29,240 THE DROID FACTORY CAME ABOUT 1073 00:43:29,274 --> 00:43:31,376 I THINK JUST FROM SKETCHING ROBOTS. 1074 00:43:31,409 --> 00:43:35,714 AND THEN REALIZING THAT THERE WERE NO PARTS 1075 00:43:35,747 --> 00:43:38,416 TO CUSTOMIZE THE ROBOTS THAT WERE THERE. 1076 00:43:38,449 --> 00:43:41,853 YOU CAN SEE... 1077 00:43:41,887 --> 00:43:43,354 THESE GUYS. 1078 00:43:43,388 --> 00:43:46,992 THEY ALL HAD A "STAR WARS" AESTHETIC. 1079 00:43:47,025 --> 00:43:49,160 AND EVERYBODY SAID, "WELL, IT'S NOT IN THE MOVIE." 1080 00:43:49,194 --> 00:43:52,030 WELL, SO WHAT? 1081 00:43:52,063 --> 00:43:55,200 I USED THESE SKETCHES BASICALLY AS A STARTING POINT. 1082 00:43:55,233 --> 00:43:58,003 I CAME UP WITH A TRIPOD DROID. 1083 00:43:58,036 --> 00:44:00,438 THIS GUY WAS JUST A LITTLE IDIOT WALKING AROUND 1084 00:44:00,471 --> 00:44:02,774 LOOKING LIKE A MOUSE SORT OF. 1085 00:44:02,808 --> 00:44:05,010 THIS ONE WAS A ROLL AROUND QUICKIE. 1086 00:44:05,043 --> 00:44:06,377 TINY DROID. 1087 00:44:06,411 --> 00:44:08,279 THIS GUY WAS WALKING DROID 1088 00:44:08,313 --> 00:44:10,982 LIKE "SILENT RUNNING" DROIDS WOULD BE 1089 00:44:11,016 --> 00:44:12,417 OTHER ONES WOULD HAVE MAYBE CLAMPS. 1090 00:44:12,450 --> 00:44:13,885 LIKE THIS ONE, FOR INSTANCE. 1091 00:44:13,919 --> 00:44:16,221 I SAW IT HAVING MAYBE AN OVER-CENTER CLAMP 1092 00:44:16,254 --> 00:44:18,790 WHERE IT WOULD JUST SNAP ON TO WHATEVER YOU PUT IT AROUND. 1093 00:44:18,824 --> 00:44:20,692 AND THIS IS ANOTHER JUST ROLL AROUND THING. 1094 00:44:20,726 --> 00:44:24,429 PROBABLY ANALOGOUS TO THIS ONE WITH WHEELS. 1095 00:44:24,462 --> 00:44:26,197 I WAS JUST LIKE DRAWING DROID. 1096 00:44:26,231 --> 00:44:27,665 (LAUGHING) 1097 00:44:33,839 --> 00:44:35,373 (ANNOUNCER) AND WHEN YOU SEE THE "STAR WARS" MOVIE 1098 00:44:35,406 --> 00:44:36,908 AT PARTICIPATING THEATERS, 1099 00:44:36,942 --> 00:44:38,443 YOU GET KENNER'S CASH-REFUND BOOKLET, 1100 00:44:38,476 --> 00:44:40,411 GOOD FOR REFUND COUPONS FROM 50 CENTS 1101 00:44:40,445 --> 00:44:41,780 UP TO TWO DOLLARS EACH 1102 00:44:41,813 --> 00:44:43,882 ON 14 DIFFERENT "STAR WARS" TOYS. 1103 00:44:43,915 --> 00:44:45,083 OFFER EXPIRES DECEMBER... 1104 00:44:45,116 --> 00:44:47,018 "STAR WARS" WAS REALLY THE FIRST ONE 1105 00:44:47,052 --> 00:44:49,821 TO REALLY GRASP ONTO 1106 00:44:49,855 --> 00:44:51,990 MARKETING POP-CULTURE IN A TOY. 1107 00:44:52,023 --> 00:44:55,827 THERE HAD BEEN CERTAINLY TV ADS FOR TOYS, 1108 00:44:55,861 --> 00:44:58,129 UM, BEFORE "STAR WARS," 1109 00:44:58,163 --> 00:45:01,833 BUT THEY REALLY TOOK THAT AND RAN WITH THAT. 1110 00:45:01,867 --> 00:45:03,969 WITH THEIR TELEVISION COMMERCIALS, I THINK KENNER 1111 00:45:04,002 --> 00:45:07,405 WAS TRYING TO PUT THE IDEA INTO A KID'S HEAD 1112 00:45:07,438 --> 00:45:09,340 OF HOW EXACTLY THEY COULD PLAY WITH THESE TOYS. 1113 00:45:09,374 --> 00:45:12,744 THEY PUT ACROSS THIS IDEA THAT IF YOU HAVE THESE FIGURES, 1114 00:45:12,778 --> 00:45:17,182 YOU CAN CREATE A MINIATURE PLAY ENVIRONMENT 1115 00:45:17,215 --> 00:45:18,483 RIGHT IN YOUR BEDROOM, 1116 00:45:18,516 --> 00:45:20,018 AND IT'S LIKE THE MOVIE. 1117 00:45:20,051 --> 00:45:21,953 (BOY) ... HE'S AFTER THE BOAT. 1118 00:45:21,987 --> 00:45:23,955 ALL TROOPS REPORT TO BASE. 1119 00:45:23,989 --> 00:45:26,257 GLIDER ATTACK, HIT THE DIRT! 1120 00:45:26,291 --> 00:45:27,959 (LUTTRULL) THE COMMERCIALS WOULD SOMETIMES HAVE SCENES 1121 00:45:27,993 --> 00:45:29,360 THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THE MOVIE. 1122 00:45:29,394 --> 00:45:30,829 AND I WOULD THINK, "HM, I DON'T REMEMBER 1123 00:45:30,862 --> 00:45:31,997 THAT PART OF THE MOVIE..." 1124 00:45:32,030 --> 00:45:33,431 (BOY) WE'LL GET YOU TO SAFETY! 1125 00:45:33,464 --> 00:45:35,934 "... BUT, WOW, I WANT TO RECREATE THAT PART." 1126 00:45:35,967 --> 00:45:37,302 (LOPEZ) YOU'RE TRYING TO TEACH KIDS 1127 00:45:37,335 --> 00:45:39,838 THROUGH THE ADS AND THROUGH THE SHOWING THE PLAYING 1128 00:45:39,871 --> 00:45:42,540 THAT YOU ARE PART OF THIS "STAR WARS" UNIVERSE. 1129 00:45:42,573 --> 00:45:44,976 THAT WAS A BIG, BIG EMPHASIS AT THE TIME. 1130 00:45:45,010 --> 00:45:46,011 (BOY) BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP! 1131 00:45:46,044 --> 00:45:47,278 (SECOND BOY) IT'S OKAY, R2-D2, 1132 00:45:47,312 --> 00:45:48,880 I'VE GOT MY LASER PISTOL. 1133 00:45:50,348 --> 00:45:52,818 (SHARP) MY DAD TOOK ME TO SEE "EMPIRE STRIKES BACK" 1134 00:45:52,851 --> 00:45:54,986 WHEN IT HIT THEATERS IN '80 OR '81, 1135 00:45:55,020 --> 00:45:56,521 AND I WAS FIVE OR SIX YEARS OLD. 1136 00:45:56,554 --> 00:45:58,223 I WAS PRETTY YOUNG. 1137 00:45:58,256 --> 00:45:59,925 AND THEN IMMEDIATELY AFTER WE SAW THE FILM, 1138 00:45:59,958 --> 00:46:02,794 HE TOOK ME DOWN TO KIDDY CITY, THE LOCAL TOY STORE, 1139 00:46:02,828 --> 00:46:05,030 AND HE BOUGHT ME MY FIRST COUPLE "STAR WARS" TOYS. 1140 00:46:05,063 --> 00:46:08,433 AND I REMEMBER STARING UP AT THIS WALL, 1141 00:46:08,466 --> 00:46:10,235 THIS AISLE FULL OF TOYS. 1142 00:46:10,268 --> 00:46:12,303 IT JUST LOOKED LIKE A MOUNTAIN OF "STAR WARS" TOYS. 1143 00:46:12,337 --> 00:46:14,873 AND MY FATHER SAID, "PICK OUT AND ACTION FIGURE." 1144 00:46:14,906 --> 00:46:17,843 AND I LOOKED THEM OVER AND I PICKED OUT DARTH VADER. 1145 00:46:17,876 --> 00:46:19,144 (BOOTH) I WAS A LITTLE KID, SO IT JUST SEEMED 1146 00:46:19,177 --> 00:46:21,813 LIKE THIS DISPLAY WAS TOWERING OVER ME. 1147 00:46:21,847 --> 00:46:24,015 JUST THIS RACK OF ALL THE "STAR WARS" FIGURES 1148 00:46:24,049 --> 00:46:24,883 ON THE PEG. 1149 00:46:24,916 --> 00:46:27,018 WHAT A TERRIBLE CHOICE TO HAVE TO MAKE! 1150 00:46:27,052 --> 00:46:30,555 I'VE GOT 12 FIGURES, I CAN ONLY GET ONE. 1151 00:46:30,588 --> 00:46:32,824 (SALVATORE) THE TERM THAT COMPANIES 1152 00:46:32,858 --> 00:46:34,559 GENERALLY USE, OR AT LEAST KENNER USED 1153 00:46:34,592 --> 00:46:36,461 FOR SETTING UP, LIKE, ITS TOY AISLE 1154 00:46:36,494 --> 00:46:38,930 IN A COORDINATED WAY WAS A "PLAN-O-GRAM." 1155 00:46:38,964 --> 00:46:41,232 CATALOGS OR BROCHURES THAT THEY SENT TO RETAILERS 1156 00:46:41,266 --> 00:46:43,101 THAT TOLD THEM THIS IS THEY WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK. 1157 00:46:43,134 --> 00:46:45,436 HOPEFULLY IT ACTUALLY LOOKED THAT WAY WHEN THEY SET IT UP, 1158 00:46:45,470 --> 00:46:46,905 BUT WHO KNOWS IF IT REALLY DID? 1159 00:46:46,938 --> 00:46:50,041 (CASH REGISTER DINGS) 1160 00:46:50,075 --> 00:46:52,610 THESE SHELVES HERE SHOW SOME OF THE, UH, 1161 00:46:52,643 --> 00:46:55,113 "STAR WARS" KENNER MARKETING CAMPAIGNS, 1162 00:46:55,146 --> 00:46:56,982 STUFF THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SENT TO TOY STORES 1163 00:46:57,015 --> 00:47:00,518 TO HELP PUSH THE LINE AND HELP DECORATE THE AISLES 1164 00:47:00,551 --> 00:47:02,220 THAT THE TOYS WERE DISPLAYED IN. 1165 00:47:02,253 --> 00:47:04,189 THAT BIG "TOY CENTER" SIGN IS BASICALLY 1166 00:47:04,222 --> 00:47:07,592 WHAT KENNER WOULD HAVE USED, I BELIEVE, IN ABOUT '79 1167 00:47:07,625 --> 00:47:10,328 TO KIND OF BRAND A WHOLE AISLE. 1168 00:47:10,361 --> 00:47:13,098 I MEAN, THAT WAS KIND OF THEIR SIGNATURE GONDOLA DISPLAY. 1169 00:47:13,131 --> 00:47:15,033 THESE HERE ARE SHELF TALKERS. 1170 00:47:15,066 --> 00:47:17,468 AND THIS WOULD HAVE JUST GONE OVER A SHELF 1171 00:47:17,502 --> 00:47:19,070 TO MASK THE FRONT OF THE SHELF 1172 00:47:19,104 --> 00:47:21,439 AND KIND OF GIVE IT A DIFFERENT "STAR WARS" FLAVOR. 1173 00:47:25,076 --> 00:47:28,213 OKAY, WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS 1174 00:47:28,246 --> 00:47:31,616 A POPAI OUTSTANDING MERCHANDISING ACHIEVEMENT AWARD 1175 00:47:31,649 --> 00:47:34,019 THAT KENNER RECEIVED IN 1978 1176 00:47:34,052 --> 00:47:37,155 FOR THEIR "STAR WARS" FLOOR DISPLAY. 1177 00:47:37,188 --> 00:47:42,427 A TEMPORARY, FREE-STANDING DISPLAY OF ACTION FIGURES 1178 00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:45,030 WITH A BELL SIGN ON TOP THAT SAID 1179 00:47:45,063 --> 00:47:46,597 "'STAR WARS' ACTION FIGURES," 1180 00:47:46,631 --> 00:47:48,900 AND AND HAD PICTURES OF ALL 12. 1181 00:47:48,934 --> 00:47:50,335 AND THEY KIND OF DID THAT THROUGHOUT THEIR LINE. 1182 00:47:50,368 --> 00:47:52,270 THEY HAD ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT MERCHANDISING KITS 1183 00:47:52,303 --> 00:47:55,006 THAT YOU COULD BUY THAT WERE SPECIFIC TO "STAR WARS," 1184 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,275 AND MADE "STAR WARS" STAND OUT IN THE TOY AISLE. 1185 00:48:02,013 --> 00:48:04,916 ROY FRANKENFIELD, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, 1186 00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:07,318 WAS THE FIRST "STAR WARS" PHOTOGRAPHER 1187 00:48:07,352 --> 00:48:11,189 BECAUSE HE'D BEEN DOING IT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. 1188 00:48:11,222 --> 00:48:16,094 I TOOK OVER FOR HIM IN 1981, BASICALLY DOING... 1189 00:48:16,127 --> 00:48:18,696 ALMOST ALL OF THE SHOOTING OF "STAR WARS," 1190 00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:20,531 IF NOT ALL OF IT, 1191 00:48:20,565 --> 00:48:24,635 AND NEVER LOOKED BACK. 1192 00:48:24,669 --> 00:48:27,205 HOW MANY PEOPLE GET PAID TO GO TO WORK 1193 00:48:27,238 --> 00:48:30,708 AND PLAY WITH TOYS AND HAVE FUN? 1194 00:48:30,741 --> 00:48:32,610 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) 1195 00:48:32,643 --> 00:48:35,213 I LIKE HAVING THE BOXES WITH THE TOYS 1196 00:48:35,246 --> 00:48:38,016 BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT PEOPLE SAW ON THE SHELF. 1197 00:48:38,049 --> 00:48:40,551 I REALLY LOVE THE WAY THEY DID THE RACETRACK AROUND THE SIDE 1198 00:48:40,585 --> 00:48:42,120 AND THE LOGO. 1199 00:48:42,153 --> 00:48:44,422 AND THEN THEY ALWAYS USED BIG, PRIMARY COLORS, 1200 00:48:44,455 --> 00:48:46,324 AND THEY SHOW THE PICTURE OF THE ACTUAL TOY. 1201 00:48:46,357 --> 00:48:50,095 (SHARP) IT HAD, YOU KNOW, STARTED OFF AS A POINT OF SALE ITEM. 1202 00:48:50,128 --> 00:48:51,696 IT WASN'T INTENDED TO BE ART. 1203 00:48:51,729 --> 00:48:55,100 I THINK IT HAS BECOME ART, THE DESIGN OF THE BOX, 1204 00:48:55,133 --> 00:48:57,102 HOW EACH BOX SORT OF HAS ITS OWN COLOR, 1205 00:48:57,135 --> 00:48:58,703 HOW THE TOYS ARE SORT OF ARRANGED ON THE BOX 1206 00:48:58,736 --> 00:49:01,306 I THINK HAS BECOME, IN AND OF ITSELF, 1207 00:49:01,339 --> 00:49:03,308 A PIECE OF POP ART. 1208 00:49:03,341 --> 00:49:05,643 EARLY STUFF IS ATTRACTIVE TO ME 1209 00:49:05,676 --> 00:49:07,112 BECAUSE IT MORE OF A RETRO LOOK. 1210 00:49:07,145 --> 00:49:09,080 TO ME, THESE REALLY LOOK '70S, YOU KNOW? 1211 00:49:09,114 --> 00:49:10,415 YOU HAVE THIS KID IN THE BELL-BOTTOMS 1212 00:49:10,448 --> 00:49:13,251 AND THE PINK SHIRT HERE-- I DON'T EVEN KNOW 1213 00:49:13,284 --> 00:49:14,986 IF THAT'S A GIRL OR A BOY, BUT WHOEVER IT IS, 1214 00:49:15,020 --> 00:49:17,322 THE EARLY "STAR WARS" STUFF HAS A REAL FLAVOR TO IT 1215 00:49:17,355 --> 00:49:20,058 THAT THE LATER STUFF DOESN'T, PACKAGING-WISE. 1216 00:49:20,091 --> 00:49:22,327 I REALLY LIKE THE EARLY-- EARLY PHOTOGRAPHY. 1217 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,129 IT DOES HAVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT FEEL. 1218 00:49:24,162 --> 00:49:27,498 AND AT THAT TIME, EVERYTHING WAS HOT LIGHT, 1219 00:49:27,532 --> 00:49:29,034 MINIMAL DIFFUSION, IF AT ALL. 1220 00:49:29,067 --> 00:49:31,502 AND I'D LOOK AT IT AND GO, "WHOA! 1221 00:49:31,536 --> 00:49:33,571 "COULDN'T WE HAVE SOFTENED THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT? 1222 00:49:33,604 --> 00:49:35,773 COULDN'T YOU HAVE REFLECTED THIS THIS WAY?" YOU KNOW. 1223 00:49:35,806 --> 00:49:38,409 THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE A DIFFERENCE LATER ON 1224 00:49:38,443 --> 00:49:40,211 WHEN I CAME IN. 1225 00:49:40,245 --> 00:49:43,448 THIS... 1226 00:49:43,481 --> 00:49:46,284 IS AN 8X10 CAMERA. 1227 00:49:46,317 --> 00:49:49,087 IT IS A... 1228 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,456 THEY CALLED IT A CENTURY CAMERA. 1229 00:49:51,489 --> 00:49:55,360 THAT WAS THE NAME OF IT. 1230 00:49:55,393 --> 00:49:58,263 AND-- HI, GUYS. 1231 00:49:58,296 --> 00:50:02,633 IT'S BEEN A LONG, LONG TIME. 1232 00:50:02,667 --> 00:50:05,470 I USED THIS ONE 1233 00:50:05,503 --> 00:50:07,238 UH, MANY TIMES 1234 00:50:07,272 --> 00:50:10,508 FOR DOING DIFFERENT-- DIFFERENT "STAR WARS." 1235 00:50:10,541 --> 00:50:12,143 IF ANYBODY KNOWS GRETA GARBO, 1236 00:50:12,177 --> 00:50:13,644 THIS WAS PROBABLY AN OLD CAMERA AT THAT TIME. 1237 00:50:13,678 --> 00:50:15,113 (LAUGHS) 1238 00:50:15,146 --> 00:50:17,248 IT'S ALWAYS THE TOY, YOU KNOW, 1239 00:50:17,282 --> 00:50:20,118 SITTING IN A JUNGLE WITH FOUR OR FIVE CHARACTERS 1240 00:50:20,151 --> 00:50:22,787 AROUND IT THAT AREN'T INCLUDED IN THAT TOY, 1241 00:50:22,820 --> 00:50:24,322 BUT IT'S INSTANTLY CREATING THAT, 1242 00:50:24,355 --> 00:50:26,724 "LOOK, HERE'S A STORY YOU CAN CREATE 1243 00:50:26,757 --> 00:50:28,426 WHEN-- IF YOU BUY THIS TOY." 1244 00:50:28,459 --> 00:50:29,660 YOU'RE SELLING TO KIDS 1245 00:50:29,694 --> 00:50:32,797 MORE THAN YOU ARE TO ADULTS. 1246 00:50:32,830 --> 00:50:35,466 THE IDEA OF SHOWING A TOY 1247 00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:37,668 IN AN ACTION ENVIRONMENT 1248 00:50:37,702 --> 00:50:41,172 APPEALS-- IT MAKES SENSE. 1249 00:50:46,444 --> 00:50:48,279 I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY DIFFERENT 1250 00:50:48,313 --> 00:50:51,149 ABOUT "STAR WARS" IS HOW INTERNATIONAL 1251 00:50:51,182 --> 00:50:53,418 THE PHENOMENON WAS FROM THE BEGINNING. 1252 00:50:53,451 --> 00:50:55,753 I THINK WHAT THE MERCHANDISING OF "STAR WARS" 1253 00:50:55,786 --> 00:50:57,355 ALL OVER THE WORLD SHOWS US 1254 00:50:57,388 --> 00:51:01,292 IS THAT IT WAS REALLY AN INTERNATIONAL PHENOMENA, 1255 00:51:01,326 --> 00:51:05,130 IT CAUGHT ON, AND, YOU KNOW, TO THIS DAY 1256 00:51:05,163 --> 00:51:08,233 THERE ARE COLLECTORS WHO HAVE, EVEN RECENTLY, 1257 00:51:08,266 --> 00:51:10,301 STARTED UP, AND TRY TO COLLECT STUFF 1258 00:51:10,335 --> 00:51:12,837 THAT WAS MADE FOR THEIR OWN COUNTRIES. 1259 00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:14,305 THERE WERE BARBIES IN OTHER COUNTRIES 1260 00:51:14,339 --> 00:51:16,141 THERE WERE OTHER TOYS IN OTHER COUNTRIES, 1261 00:51:16,174 --> 00:51:20,345 BUT NOTHING CAPTURED EVERYBODY'S ATTENTIONS SIMULTANEOUSLY 1262 00:51:20,378 --> 00:51:21,879 THE WAY "STAR WARS" TOYS DID. 1263 00:51:21,912 --> 00:51:24,249 THE MOST COMMON FOREIGN VARIANCE 1264 00:51:24,282 --> 00:51:27,385 THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE ARE MOST LIKELY THE TRI-LOGOS. 1265 00:51:27,418 --> 00:51:30,188 NOW, THE TRI-LOGO CARDS WERE ACTUALLY PRODUCED 1266 00:51:30,221 --> 00:51:32,290 BY PALITOY, WHICH IS A UK PROVIDER. 1267 00:51:32,323 --> 00:51:33,791 YOU HAD THE LOGO IN ENGLISH, 1268 00:51:33,824 --> 00:51:36,494 YOU HAD THE FRENCH, AND THEN SPANISH. 1269 00:51:38,529 --> 00:51:41,166 ALL OF THE INTERNATIONAL PRODUCTS, THEY WERE EITHER 1270 00:51:41,199 --> 00:51:44,335 KENNER DIRECT SUBSIDIARIES OR AFFILIATES OF KENNER 1271 00:51:44,369 --> 00:51:47,572 OR THEY PAID A FEE, BECAUSE THE-- THE-- 1272 00:51:47,605 --> 00:51:50,908 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LILI LEDY TOYS IN MEXICO, 1273 00:51:50,941 --> 00:51:54,379 WHICH WERE MADE IN MEXICO, ALL OF THE TOYS 1274 00:51:54,412 --> 00:51:58,849 WERE MADE IN THE KENNER FACTORIES IN ASIA, 1275 00:51:58,883 --> 00:52:01,752 AND THEN THEY WERE PACKAGED IN A CERTAIN WAY 1276 00:52:01,786 --> 00:52:03,888 AND THEN SHIPPED TO THE COUNTRIES. 1277 00:52:03,921 --> 00:52:05,890 THIS IS ACTUALLY AN OBI-WAN KENOBI 1278 00:52:05,923 --> 00:52:08,159 MADE BY FRENCH COMPANY MECCANO. 1279 00:52:08,193 --> 00:52:10,795 MECCANO DECIDED TO COMPLETELY ABANDON 1280 00:52:10,828 --> 00:52:13,231 THE NORMAL SIZING OF A CARD 1281 00:52:13,264 --> 00:52:16,301 BY USING A MORE PERFECTLY SQUARED CARD. 1282 00:52:16,334 --> 00:52:20,438 FOR "EMPIRE STRIKES BACK," A JAPANESE COMPANY CALLED POPY 1283 00:52:20,471 --> 00:52:24,775 PICKED JUST 15 OF THE FIGURES, USED THEM IN KENNER BAGGIES, 1284 00:52:24,809 --> 00:52:26,811 AND THEN PUT THEM IN THESE COOL BOXES 1285 00:52:26,844 --> 00:52:29,180 AS PART OF THE "WORLD HEROES" LINE. 1286 00:52:29,214 --> 00:52:30,915 SO IT MIXED "STAR WARS" WITH OTHERS. 1287 00:52:30,948 --> 00:52:33,318 AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S JUST THE, YOU KNOW, 1288 00:52:33,351 --> 00:52:35,886 KENNER BAGGIE OF THE BOBA FETT, AND-- 1289 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,822 OH, WAIT A SECOND, THIS IS A RARE, MISSILE-- 1290 00:52:37,855 --> 00:52:39,390 OH, NO, NO, SORRY. 1291 00:52:39,424 --> 00:52:44,329 THIS RIGHT HERE IS AN ORIGINAL HAND-DRAWN PACKAGE 1292 00:52:44,362 --> 00:52:47,398 THAT ITALY, UNDER THE BRAND HARBOR 1293 00:52:47,432 --> 00:52:51,936 SENT TO KENNER IN ORDER TO GET LUCASFILM APPROVAL 1294 00:52:51,969 --> 00:52:53,538 OF THE PACKAGE DESIGN. 1295 00:52:53,571 --> 00:52:56,374 THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT LUCASFILM 1296 00:52:56,407 --> 00:52:59,210 WAS OKAY WITH THE OVERALL DESIGN 1297 00:52:59,244 --> 00:53:00,445 AND LAYOUT OF THE PACKAGE. 1298 00:53:00,478 --> 00:53:02,980 SO THIS IS ALL HAND-DRAWN AND EVERYTHING. 1299 00:53:03,013 --> 00:53:04,849 AS YOU START TO GO AROUND THE WORLD AND SEE 1300 00:53:04,882 --> 00:53:06,417 SOME OF THESE OTHER PICKUPS, 1301 00:53:06,451 --> 00:53:08,753 THERE ARE SOME MINOR VARIATIONS ON SOME FIGURES, 1302 00:53:08,786 --> 00:53:11,956 AND THERE ARE ACTUALLY SOME HUGE VARIATIONS ON OTHERS. 1303 00:53:11,989 --> 00:53:14,359 THIS IS THE MEXICAN LILI LEDY LINE. 1304 00:53:14,392 --> 00:53:16,761 THE MEXICAN LEDY LINE HAD A COUPLE OF VARIATIONS. 1305 00:53:16,794 --> 00:53:20,731 THE JAWA ACTUALLY HAS, INSTEAD OF A ONE-PIECE CLOAK, 1306 00:53:20,765 --> 00:53:23,834 THE JAWA ACTUALLY HAS A HOOD THAT YOU PULL OFF, 1307 00:53:23,868 --> 00:53:25,903 REVEALING THE FIGURE'S HEAD SCULPT. 1308 00:53:25,936 --> 00:53:27,972 THIS IS A MEXICAN LARGE-SIZE R2D2, 1309 00:53:28,005 --> 00:53:30,741 WHICH IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY 1310 00:53:30,775 --> 00:53:32,843 JUST KENNER'S SMALL R2D2 FIGURE 1311 00:53:32,877 --> 00:53:35,713 BLOWN UP TO LARGER SIZE. 1312 00:53:35,746 --> 00:53:37,848 AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE-- THE KENNER VERSION 1313 00:53:37,882 --> 00:53:39,584 IS QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT. 1314 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,323 JAPAN EVEN WENT SO FAR AS TO, YOU KNOW, 1315 00:53:45,356 --> 00:53:47,258 ARTICULATE THE FIGURES AND BUILD THEM UP 1316 00:53:47,292 --> 00:53:48,626 TO A LARGER SIZE, 1317 00:53:48,659 --> 00:53:50,728 AND USE VINYL AND, IN SOME CASES, DIE CAST, 1318 00:53:50,761 --> 00:53:53,364 WHICH WERE MORE CULTURALLY IN THE MAINSTREAM 1319 00:53:53,398 --> 00:53:55,333 OVER THERE AT THE TIME. 1320 00:53:55,366 --> 00:53:56,634 SO THERE WERE SOME PRODUCTS THAT WERE MADE 1321 00:53:56,667 --> 00:53:58,736 THAT PROBABLY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE MADE. 1322 00:53:58,769 --> 00:54:00,505 GEORGE DID NOT WANT THE "STAR WARS" LABEL 1323 00:54:00,538 --> 00:54:04,342 JUST SLAPPED ON THINGS, BUT UP IN CANADA, UM, 1324 00:54:04,375 --> 00:54:07,278 THEY PUT OUT THESE UTILITY BELTS, YOU KNOW. 1325 00:54:07,312 --> 00:54:08,746 IT WAS LIKE BATMAN. 1326 00:54:08,779 --> 00:54:13,651 AND THEY HAD THE "STAR WARS" LABEL ON A RUBBER TIP DART 1327 00:54:13,684 --> 00:54:18,923 AND A PLASTIC BELT AND A CHEESY LIGHTSABER THING. 1328 00:54:18,956 --> 00:54:24,295 AND AS SOON AS LUCASFILM SAW THE FIRST PRODUCTION SAMPLES, 1329 00:54:24,329 --> 00:54:25,663 THEY SAID, "UH-UH," 1330 00:54:25,696 --> 00:54:27,498 AND THEY MADE THEM TAKE IT OFF THE MARKET. 1331 00:54:27,532 --> 00:54:32,269 SO, OF COURSE, THESE ARE AMONG THE RAREST CANADIAN TOYS. 1332 00:54:34,004 --> 00:54:36,307 UNLIKE MOVIES TODAY, WHICH OPEN DAY AND DATE 1333 00:54:36,341 --> 00:54:37,775 ALL AROUND THE WORLD, 1334 00:54:37,808 --> 00:54:40,845 "STAR WARS" DIDN'T OPEN IN ANY OTHER COUNTRIES, 1335 00:54:40,878 --> 00:54:43,448 APART FROM THE US AND CANADA, 1336 00:54:43,481 --> 00:54:46,451 UNTIL AT A MINIMUM SIX MONTHS LATER, 1337 00:54:46,484 --> 00:54:49,387 AND, IN THE CASE OF JAPAN, A YEAR LATER. 1338 00:54:49,420 --> 00:54:51,422 AND SO THERE WAS TIME FOR PEOPLE TO GEAR UP 1339 00:54:51,456 --> 00:54:54,759 FOR THE TOYS AND ALL OF THE RELATED PHENOMENON. 1340 00:54:54,792 --> 00:54:57,662 SO, UNLIKE THE US, THERE WAS STUFF AVAILABLE. 1341 00:54:57,695 --> 00:55:01,332 MOST OF WHICH PEOPLE DIDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT UNTIL, 1342 00:55:01,366 --> 00:55:05,703 YOU KNOW, 15 OR 20 YEARS AFTER THEY WERE PRODUCED. 1343 00:55:11,909 --> 00:55:13,544 ** ("STAR WARS" THEME PLAYING) 1344 00:55:13,578 --> 00:55:14,812 (ANNOUNCER) "STAR WARS." 1345 00:55:14,845 --> 00:55:16,714 THE IMPACT IS STAGGERING. 1346 00:55:16,747 --> 00:55:18,816 NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF MOTION PICTURES 1347 00:55:18,849 --> 00:55:20,518 HAS ONE FILM BEEN SO POPULAR, 1348 00:55:20,551 --> 00:55:23,421 BUT THE CRAZE DID NOT STOP AT THE BOX OFFICE. 1349 00:55:23,454 --> 00:55:27,024 IN 1977, KENNER LAUNCHED THE "STAR WARS" COLLECTION, 1350 00:55:27,057 --> 00:55:29,527 WITH A MASSIVE ADVERTISING BLITZ. 1351 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,596 AND, THANKS TO YOUR EFFORTS AND FAITH IN THE FORCE, 1352 00:55:31,629 --> 00:55:34,699 THE RESPONSE HAS SHOT SALES RIGHT OFF THE GROUND. 1353 00:55:34,732 --> 00:55:36,567 I THINK THEY WERE TOTALLY UNPREPARED FOR... 1354 00:55:36,601 --> 00:55:38,969 THE MAGNITUDE OF THE SUCCESS, 1355 00:55:39,003 --> 00:55:41,839 AND HOW SUDDEN IT HIT THEM, AND HOW RAPIDLY THEY HAD TO 1356 00:55:41,872 --> 00:55:44,509 CONVERT FROM A SORT OF SMALL-TIME TOY COMPANY 1357 00:55:44,542 --> 00:55:46,444 TO ONE OF THE MAJOR PLAYERS. 1358 00:55:46,477 --> 00:55:48,779 FOR "EMPIRE," THEY WERE A LITTLE MORE PREPARED. 1359 00:55:48,813 --> 00:55:52,049 THEY HAD THE FIGURES READY ACTUALLY EVEN BEFORE 1360 00:55:52,082 --> 00:55:53,518 THE FILM WAS OUT. 1361 00:55:53,551 --> 00:55:55,119 BUT THEY WERE STILL FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE. 1362 00:55:55,152 --> 00:55:57,555 NO ONE HAD BET ON A SEQUEL BEFORE. 1363 00:55:57,588 --> 00:55:59,123 PEOPLE WERE LIKE, "WELL, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THIS." 1364 00:55:59,156 --> 00:56:00,758 (ANNOUNCER) THE FORCE IS BACK. 1365 00:56:00,791 --> 00:56:03,594 THE REBELS WON'T TIRE TILL THEY SEE THE LAST OF THE EMPIRE. 1366 00:56:03,628 --> 00:56:05,596 AND KENNER'S THERE WITH STAR WARS 1367 00:56:05,630 --> 00:56:07,598 "RETURN OF THE JEDI" COLLECTION. 1368 00:56:07,632 --> 00:56:09,667 (LOPEZ) RETURN OF THE JEDI, THEY WERE READY. 1369 00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:11,669 THEY HAD A MASSIVE LINEUP OF ACTION FIGURES. 1370 00:56:11,702 --> 00:56:14,405 LOTS OF VEHICLES, LOTS OF TOYS PLANNED. 1371 00:56:14,439 --> 00:56:16,140 EVEN IF IT WAS A HORRIBLE FILM, 1372 00:56:16,173 --> 00:56:17,442 THEY KNEW IT WAS GONNA DO VERY WELL. 1373 00:56:17,475 --> 00:56:18,609 BUT, REALLY, IT TOOK THEM-- 1374 00:56:18,643 --> 00:56:20,745 IT TOOK THEM EVEN TILL ABOUT '83 1375 00:56:20,778 --> 00:56:22,547 TO REALLY GET-- BUILD UP THE MOMENTUM, 1376 00:56:22,580 --> 00:56:23,881 AND NO ONE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING YET. 1377 00:56:23,914 --> 00:56:25,750 IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THIS HAD BEEN DONE. 1378 00:56:25,783 --> 00:56:28,152 "STAR WARS" UNFORTUNATELY SET OFF 1379 00:56:28,185 --> 00:56:30,721 AN UNFORTUNATELY CHAIN OF DOMINOES, 1380 00:56:30,755 --> 00:56:32,890 WHERE KENNER WENT FROM THIS LITTLE, CHARMING TOY COMPANY 1381 00:56:32,923 --> 00:56:36,427 TO LIKE THIS BIG KIND OF ENTERTAINMENT-RELATED COMPANY 1382 00:56:36,461 --> 00:56:39,730 THAT HAD A CORPORATE FACE TO IT AND WAS KIND OF LESS... 1383 00:56:39,764 --> 00:56:42,500 FUN, I GUESS. IT BECAME LESS FUN. 1384 00:56:42,533 --> 00:56:46,437 "STAR WARS" HAD AN ENORMOUS IMPACT 1385 00:56:46,471 --> 00:56:48,072 ON NOT JUST THE BOTTOM LINE, 1386 00:56:48,105 --> 00:56:50,207 BUT THE CULTURE, PER SE. 1387 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:51,976 EIGHT TO TEN HOURS A DAY. 1388 00:56:52,009 --> 00:56:54,779 WE WERE ASKED TO COME IN ON SATURDAYS FOR A WHILE 1389 00:56:54,812 --> 00:56:57,648 TO WORK ON ESPECIALLY "STAR WARS." 1390 00:56:57,682 --> 00:57:02,687 I REALLY LOST THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF MY KIDS' GROWING UP, 1391 00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:06,457 BECAUSE I LITERALLY SPENT MOST OF MY TIME 1392 00:57:06,491 --> 00:57:10,127 IN MY OFFICE OR WITH MY STAFF. 1393 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,597 I HAD A COT IN MY OFFICE. I SLEPT THERE. 1394 00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:14,999 PEOPLE PUT HOLES IN THE WALL. 1395 00:57:15,032 --> 00:57:16,601 BROKE OUT IN PSORIASIS. 1396 00:57:16,634 --> 00:57:18,068 TORE THEIR PHONES OUT OF THE WALL 1397 00:57:18,102 --> 00:57:20,204 AND THREW THEM ACROSS THE ROOM. 1398 00:57:20,237 --> 00:57:23,073 I KNOW THE MANAGERS WERE UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE, 1399 00:57:23,107 --> 00:57:27,077 BUT THEY SEEMED TO TRY TO KEEP SOME OF THAT PRESSURE OFF OF US 1400 00:57:27,111 --> 00:57:29,079 BECAUSE, AS LONG AS THEY SAW THAT WE WERE 1401 00:57:29,113 --> 00:57:31,582 DOING THE CREATIVE PROCESS 1402 00:57:31,616 --> 00:57:34,251 AND GETTING THE ITEMS DONE AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD, 1403 00:57:34,284 --> 00:57:36,253 YOU KNOW, THEY JUST KIND OF GAVE US, UH, 1404 00:57:36,286 --> 00:57:39,223 YEAH, SAY, "YEAH, GO WORK ON THESE THREE FIGHTERS. 1405 00:57:39,256 --> 00:57:41,225 GET 'EM DONE AS QUICK AS YOU CAN." 1406 00:57:41,258 --> 00:57:43,628 "THAT TOY'S YOUR BABY. YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT." 1407 00:57:43,661 --> 00:57:46,497 BUT, TO ME, I REALLY ENJOYED THE PRESSURE OF IT, 1408 00:57:46,531 --> 00:57:48,933 JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE ADRENALINE. 1409 00:57:48,966 --> 00:57:50,100 "OH, GET IT DONE," YOU KNOW. 1410 00:57:50,134 --> 00:57:51,602 AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE SCHEDULE WAS, 1411 00:57:51,636 --> 00:57:54,238 AND, YEAH, OF COURSE EVERYTHING'S IN A HURRY. 1412 00:57:54,271 --> 00:57:55,706 IF IT WASN'T IN A HURRY, 1413 00:57:55,740 --> 00:57:56,874 THEY WOULDN'T HAVE YOU THERE TO DO IT, SO... 1414 00:57:58,609 --> 00:58:02,112 TRYING TO KEEP "STAR WARS" ALIVE PAST 1985 WAS JUST... 1415 00:58:02,146 --> 00:58:03,280 NOT HAPPENING. 1416 00:58:03,313 --> 00:58:05,616 LUCASFILM WAS SMART ENOUGH TO SAY, 1417 00:58:05,650 --> 00:58:08,519 "YOU KNOW, GUYS, WE'VE HAD A GREAT RUN. 1418 00:58:08,553 --> 00:58:10,855 "BUT WE THINK WE WANT TO GIVE IT A BREATHER. 1419 00:58:10,888 --> 00:58:13,924 WE-- WE-- WE THINK THERE'S NOT A MARKET OUT THERE." 1420 00:58:13,958 --> 00:58:15,793 AFTER "RETURN OF THE JEDI," 1421 00:58:15,826 --> 00:58:18,729 WHEN THERE WAS NO MORE ANTICIPATION 1422 00:58:18,763 --> 00:58:20,264 FOR ANOTHER "STAR WARS" MOVIE, 1423 00:58:20,297 --> 00:58:23,267 IT'S NOT THAT I DRIFTED AWAY FROM "STAR WARS." 1424 00:58:23,300 --> 00:58:25,269 I NEVER STOPPED BEING A FAN. 1425 00:58:25,302 --> 00:58:26,971 BUT THERE JUST WASN'T THAT ONGOING-- 1426 00:58:27,004 --> 00:58:29,740 THERE WASN'T ONGOING THINGS KIND OF FUELING THAT FANDOM. 1427 00:58:29,774 --> 00:58:31,542 PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE THREE MOVIES AND OUT. 1428 00:58:31,576 --> 00:58:33,744 YOU JUST HAD A REAL FEEL THAT THAT WAS THERE. 1429 00:58:33,778 --> 00:58:35,880 THERE WAS GONNA BE A BREAK. THERE WAS A CONCLUSION TO IT. 1430 00:58:35,913 --> 00:58:37,882 KENNER REALLY HAD A PROJECT AHEAD OF IT, 1431 00:58:37,915 --> 00:58:39,884 BECAUSE LUCASFILM HAD INDICATED 1432 00:58:39,917 --> 00:58:42,620 THEY WERE NOT MAKING ANY MORE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, 1433 00:58:42,653 --> 00:58:46,891 AND HOW DO YOU MARKET AND SELL A LINE OF "STAR WARS" STUFF 1434 00:58:46,924 --> 00:58:48,893 WITHOUT "STAR WARS" BEING IN THEATERS? 1435 00:58:48,926 --> 00:58:52,329 UM, THE MOVIE LINE MOVED FROM "RETURN OF THE JEDI" 1436 00:58:52,362 --> 00:58:54,665 TO A LINE CALLED POWER OF THE FORCE. 1437 00:58:54,699 --> 00:58:57,301 POWER OF THE FORCE WAS THEIR PLAN FOR 1985 1438 00:58:57,334 --> 00:59:00,905 TO, UH, LOOK BEYOND "RETURN OF THE JEDI," 1439 00:59:00,938 --> 00:59:03,240 KNOWING THERE WERE GONNA BE NO NEW "STAR WARS" FILMS. 1440 00:59:03,273 --> 00:59:04,909 THEY HAD WONDERFUL CHARACTERS THEY HAD CHOSEN, 1441 00:59:04,942 --> 00:59:07,645 LIKE HAN CARBONITE OR LUKE IN STORMTROOPER, 1442 00:59:07,678 --> 00:59:08,879 THE TATOOINE SKIFF. 1443 00:59:08,913 --> 00:59:10,615 THEY BUNDLED THESE THINGS WITH COINS. 1444 00:59:10,648 --> 00:59:12,049 THERE'S SO MANY THINGS IN POWER OF THE FORCE LINE 1445 00:59:12,082 --> 00:59:13,718 THAT MANY COLLECTORS VIEW AS KIND OF THE PINNACLE 1446 00:59:13,751 --> 00:59:15,085 OF "STAR WARS" COLLECTING. 1447 00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:16,654 IRONICALLY, IT WAS ALSO THE PERIOD 1448 00:59:16,687 --> 00:59:18,923 OF LEAST INTEREST IN "STAR WARS" TOYS. 1449 00:59:18,956 --> 00:59:21,325 LIKE IT LITERALLY WAS THE BIGGEST FAILURE EVER 1450 00:59:21,358 --> 00:59:23,594 IN "STAR WARS" ACTION FIGURE TOYS. 1451 00:59:23,628 --> 00:59:26,363 THE WHOLE GENERATION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ON THOSE TOYS 1452 00:59:26,396 --> 00:59:29,333 IS STARTING TO MOVE INTO JUNIOR HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL, 1453 00:59:29,366 --> 00:59:30,668 AND GETTING OUT OF TOYS. 1454 00:59:30,701 --> 00:59:32,269 SO I JUST DON'T THINK THERE WAS-- 1455 00:59:32,302 --> 00:59:34,805 THERE WAS ANY-- ANYTHING TO BRING 1456 00:59:34,839 --> 00:59:36,741 THE NEXT GENERATION OF KIDS INTO IT. 1457 00:59:36,774 --> 00:59:38,809 BY ABOUT 13, IT WAS A LITTLE RIDICULOUS 1458 00:59:38,843 --> 00:59:42,146 FOR, YOU KNOW, ME TO GO INTO A TOY STORE 1459 00:59:42,179 --> 00:59:44,081 AND BUY FIGURES. 1460 00:59:44,114 --> 00:59:45,883 OF COURSE, 20 YEARS LATER, 1461 00:59:45,916 --> 00:59:48,118 (LAUGHING) IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT ANYWAY. 1462 00:59:48,152 --> 00:59:51,388 BY 1985, KENNER HAD KILLED THE POWER OF THE FORCE LINE. 1463 00:59:51,421 --> 00:59:53,624 THEY STILL HAD THE "DROIDS AND EWOKS" CARTOON SERIES. 1464 00:59:53,658 --> 00:59:55,192 THOSE WERE TV SHOWS THAT WERE RUNNING 1465 00:59:55,225 --> 00:59:57,862 IN A COUPLE OF COUNTRIES, THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA. 1466 00:59:57,895 --> 00:59:59,229 EVENTUALLY, IT DID GET ALL OVER THE WORLD. 1467 00:59:59,263 --> 01:00:00,898 I THINK BY AROUND EARLY '86, 1468 01:00:00,931 --> 01:00:04,368 THEY EVEN KILLED OFF THE "DROIDS AND EWOKS" LINES. 1469 01:00:04,401 --> 01:00:06,036 YEAH, I WAS AWARE, AFTER POWER OF THE FORCE 1470 01:00:06,070 --> 01:00:09,406 SORT OF FIZZLED OUT, I WAS AWARE THAT THERE WAS 1471 01:00:09,439 --> 01:00:11,709 NO "STAR WARS" PRODUCT BEING MADE. 1472 01:00:11,742 --> 01:00:13,711 I MEAN, WALK INTO A TOY STORE IN 1986, 1473 01:00:13,744 --> 01:00:15,980 AND THERE'S NO "STAR WARS" STUFF ON THE SHELF. 1474 01:00:16,013 --> 01:00:20,417 YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SELL THE PUBLIC ANYTHING 1475 01:00:20,450 --> 01:00:22,687 THAT IT DOESN'T WANT TO BUY. 1476 01:00:23,954 --> 01:00:26,256 IN 1991, HASBRO WOULD BUY KENNER 1477 01:00:26,290 --> 01:00:27,858 AND MOVE OPERATIONS TO ELSINORE PLACE, 1478 01:00:27,892 --> 01:00:29,426 IN THIS BUILDING BEHIND ME. 1479 01:00:29,459 --> 01:00:31,996 IT WAS ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES, IT WAS BOYS' TOYS, 1480 01:00:32,029 --> 01:00:34,999 AS WELL AS SOME MANUFACTURING AND THINGS IN THE BACK. 1481 01:00:35,032 --> 01:00:36,333 THEY WOULD CLOSE THEIR OPERATIONS HERE 1482 01:00:36,366 --> 01:00:38,368 IN THE YEAR 2000. 1483 01:00:38,402 --> 01:00:39,937 KENNER BY THE '90S 1484 01:00:39,970 --> 01:00:41,872 IS THE PREEMINENT ACTION FIGURE COMPANY 1485 01:00:41,906 --> 01:00:43,808 DOING A LOT OF STUFF FOR MOVIES, 1486 01:00:43,841 --> 01:00:45,743 SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE HASBRO SAW THE VALUE 1487 01:00:45,776 --> 01:00:47,411 IN ACQUIRING KENNER, BECAUSE THEY WOULD 1488 01:00:47,444 --> 01:00:49,013 BOLSTER THEIR GI JOE LINE 1489 01:00:49,046 --> 01:00:52,416 AND KIND OF TAKE OVER THEIR ACTION FIGURE OPERATION. 1490 01:00:52,449 --> 01:00:55,419 HASBRO LOOKED AT IT, AND I THINK... 1491 01:00:55,452 --> 01:00:57,454 HONESTLY SAW AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF TALENT 1492 01:00:57,487 --> 01:00:58,956 HERE IN CINCINNATI. 1493 01:00:58,989 --> 01:01:01,391 AND IF YOU WANTED TO GET TO THAT NEXT LEVEL, 1494 01:01:01,425 --> 01:01:03,794 COME TO CINCINNATI AND GET SOME PEOPLE. 1495 01:01:09,834 --> 01:01:16,741 YOU KNOW, IT REALLY WASN'T UNTIL... 1994 1496 01:01:16,774 --> 01:01:20,044 WHEN THE FIRST REALLY... 1497 01:01:20,077 --> 01:01:23,781 MAJOR LINE OF "STAR WARS" TOYS CAME BACK. 1498 01:01:23,814 --> 01:01:27,451 AND THEY WERE THOSE EXECRABLE BEND-EMS. 1499 01:01:27,484 --> 01:01:29,453 (GAULE) THE BEND-EMS WERE A RUNAWAY SUCCESS, 1500 01:01:29,486 --> 01:01:30,921 AND THOSE WERE TERRIBLE ACTION FIGURES. 1501 01:01:30,955 --> 01:01:32,723 SO YOU COULD IMAGINE PEOPLE THINKING LIKE, 1502 01:01:32,757 --> 01:01:34,792 "MAN, IF WE MADE ACTUALLY GOOD ACTION FIGURES, 1503 01:01:34,825 --> 01:01:36,827 THIS THING COULD DO REALLY WELL." 1504 01:01:36,861 --> 01:01:38,829 BY THEN, UH, VINTAGE "STAR WARS" COLLECTING 1505 01:01:38,863 --> 01:01:40,330 HAD COME IN FULL FORCE. 1506 01:01:40,364 --> 01:01:43,934 PEOPLE WERE DIGGING UP THE OLD ACTION FIGURES AT TOY SHOWS. 1507 01:01:43,968 --> 01:01:45,302 KENNER WAS OBVIOUSLY AWARE OF THIS, 1508 01:01:45,335 --> 01:01:46,737 THAT THERE'S THIS HUGE OPPORTUNITY. 1509 01:01:46,771 --> 01:01:48,372 "PEOPLE ARE PAYING A LOT FOR THE OLD ONES. 1510 01:01:48,405 --> 01:01:50,107 WHY DON'T WE MAKE NEW ONES?" 1511 01:01:50,140 --> 01:01:53,443 HASBRO DECIDED TO RELEASE NEW VERSIONS 1512 01:01:53,477 --> 01:01:55,212 OF THE CLASSIC "STAR WARS" CHARACTERS. 1513 01:01:55,245 --> 01:01:56,413 THE FIGURES WERE BASED 1514 01:01:56,446 --> 01:01:58,082 OFF PRODUCTION FIGURES BACK IN THE DAY. 1515 01:01:58,115 --> 01:02:00,050 I REMEMBER IN MY HOMETOWN, THE TOYS-R-US HAS THEM 1516 01:02:00,084 --> 01:02:02,252 AND SOLD OUT OF THEM WITHIN LIKE THREE DAYS. 1517 01:02:02,286 --> 01:02:05,089 WITH THE SUCCESS OF-- KIND OF THAT "PUT YOUR TOE IN THE POOL," 1518 01:02:05,122 --> 01:02:07,524 UH, THEY DECIDED TO GO FULL FORCE INTO THE DEEP END 1519 01:02:07,557 --> 01:02:08,859 WITH "STAR WARS." 1520 01:02:08,893 --> 01:02:10,294 THESE THREE SHELVES 1521 01:02:10,327 --> 01:02:12,229 ARE MY POWER OF THE FORCE II SHELVES. 1522 01:02:12,262 --> 01:02:14,031 AND POWER OF THE FORCE II WAS THE FIRST LINE 1523 01:02:14,064 --> 01:02:16,233 THAT KENNER, OWNED BY HASBRO AT THE TIME, 1524 01:02:16,266 --> 01:02:20,037 REINTRODUCED IN '95, TO BRING THE FIGURES BACK. 1525 01:02:20,070 --> 01:02:22,106 (ANNOUNCER) THE POWER OF THE FORCE, FROM KENNER! 1526 01:02:22,139 --> 01:02:24,842 THE BIGGEST, MOST REALISTIC FORCE IN THE UNIVERSE! 1527 01:02:24,875 --> 01:02:27,011 ONLY THE POWER OF THE FORCE BRINGS YOU THE BIGGEST 1528 01:02:27,044 --> 01:02:28,512 HEROES AND VILLAINS STRAIGHT FROM THE MOVIES. 1529 01:02:28,545 --> 01:02:30,781 HASBRO WENT ON TO MAKE THAT INTO 1530 01:02:30,815 --> 01:02:32,983 ONE OF THE BIG ACTION FIGURE LINES EVER. 1531 01:02:33,017 --> 01:02:34,785 YOU KNOW, "STAR WARS" PART TWO. 1532 01:02:34,819 --> 01:02:36,987 WELL, ONCE PEOPLE GOT OVER THE EXCITEMENT 1533 01:02:37,021 --> 01:02:38,856 THAT NEW "STAR WARS" FIGURES WERE OUT, 1534 01:02:38,889 --> 01:02:41,992 THEY SOON BEGAN TO REALLY, UM, 1535 01:02:42,026 --> 01:02:43,560 HAVE KIND OF A DISDAIN FOR THEM. 1536 01:02:43,593 --> 01:02:47,064 BECAUSE THEY WERE SO OVERLY MUSCULAR 1537 01:02:47,097 --> 01:02:50,300 AND DID NOT REALLY RESEMBLE THE CHARACTERS FROM THE FILM. 1538 01:02:50,334 --> 01:02:53,137 A LOT OF PEOPLE AT THE TIME CALLED THIS HAN SOLO 1539 01:02:53,170 --> 01:02:56,340 "HAN SOLOFLEX," BECAUSE HE WAS... 1540 01:02:56,373 --> 01:02:59,076 SO OVERLY MUSCULAR. 1541 01:02:59,109 --> 01:03:00,344 THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, 1542 01:03:00,377 --> 01:03:02,012 AND PARTICULARLY THE SCULPTORS, 1543 01:03:02,046 --> 01:03:03,547 SOME OF THEM WANTED TO BE-- ARTISTICALLY CREATE 1544 01:03:03,580 --> 01:03:05,015 THESE DIFFERENT LIKENESSES 1545 01:03:05,049 --> 01:03:06,550 THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY THE SCREEN LIKENESSES. 1546 01:03:06,583 --> 01:03:09,353 THEY WERE TRYING TO CREATE THIS KIND OF OTHER LOOK. 1547 01:03:09,386 --> 01:03:11,255 WELL, I KNOW A LOT OF COLLECTORS 1548 01:03:11,288 --> 01:03:12,890 CAN'T STAND THEM. 1549 01:03:12,923 --> 01:03:16,493 I HAVE A SPECIAL, UM, APPRECIATION FOR THEM. 1550 01:03:16,526 --> 01:03:19,029 UH... I JUST THINK THEY'RE FUN. 1551 01:03:19,063 --> 01:03:20,564 AND I CONTINUE TO THINK THEY'RE FUN. 1552 01:03:20,597 --> 01:03:23,133 AND I WILL ALWAYS DISPLAY THEM. 1553 01:03:26,937 --> 01:03:29,506 (ANNOUNCER) NOW, FOR ITS 20TH ANNIVERSARY, 1554 01:03:29,539 --> 01:03:31,341 THE ADVENTURE OF A LIFETIME 1555 01:03:31,375 --> 01:03:33,077 RETURNS TO THE BIG SCREEN. 1556 01:03:33,110 --> 01:03:35,212 THE SPECIAL EDITIONS CAME OUT IN '97, 1557 01:03:35,245 --> 01:03:37,181 WHICH KIND OF AMPED IT UP TO AN EXTRA NOTCH. 1558 01:03:37,214 --> 01:03:40,184 AND THAT'S WHEN I THINK IT REALLY HIT THE MAINSTREAM, 1559 01:03:40,217 --> 01:03:42,052 THAT "STAR WARS" WAS... 1560 01:03:42,086 --> 01:03:45,455 UM, STILL A CULTURAL FORCE OR POP CULTURAL FORCE. 1561 01:03:45,489 --> 01:03:48,558 AS MUCH AS THE OLDER GENERATION 1562 01:03:48,592 --> 01:03:50,961 DIDN'T REALLY CARE FOR THE PREQUELS MUCH, 1563 01:03:50,995 --> 01:03:52,930 THOSE MOVIES BROUGHT IN A WHOLE NEW GENERATION 1564 01:03:52,963 --> 01:03:54,865 OF COLLECTORS COMING UP BEHIND ME. 1565 01:03:54,899 --> 01:03:57,301 AS THE HEAD OF ONE OF THE SMALLER TOY COMPANIES 1566 01:03:57,334 --> 01:03:58,936 ONCE SAID TO ME, 1567 01:03:58,969 --> 01:04:03,140 THE "STAR WARS" GENERATION PASSED ON THE GENE-- 1568 01:04:03,173 --> 01:04:05,209 THE "STAR WARS" GENE-- TO THE NEXT GENERATION. 1569 01:04:05,242 --> 01:04:07,344 AND NOW WE'RE SEEING THREE GENERATIONS 1570 01:04:07,377 --> 01:04:08,979 OF "STAR WARS" FANS, 1571 01:04:09,013 --> 01:04:12,482 AND THEY ALL LOVE THE "STAR WARS" TOYS AND STUFF. 1572 01:04:12,516 --> 01:04:13,951 THAT'S AMAZING TO SEE. 1573 01:04:13,984 --> 01:04:16,921 I THINK IT'S GONNA LAST A LONG, LONG TIME. 1574 01:04:20,357 --> 01:04:23,560 (BERGES) THE COMPELLING THING ABOUT THESE TOYS IS 1575 01:04:23,593 --> 01:04:26,430 THE FACT THAT IT CAN TAKE YOU BACK 1576 01:04:26,463 --> 01:04:28,098 TO THAT TIME. 1577 01:04:28,132 --> 01:04:30,500 I THINK THAT'S THE COOLEST THING ABOUT IT. 1578 01:04:30,534 --> 01:04:34,404 WHEN YOU HAD A "STAR WARS" TOY... 1579 01:04:34,438 --> 01:04:35,605 THERE WERE NO LIMITS. 1580 01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:38,208 AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM NOW, 1581 01:04:38,242 --> 01:04:41,611 EVEN THROUGH OLDER AND DIFFERENT EYES, 1582 01:04:41,645 --> 01:04:43,981 IT CAN STILL TRIGGER SOME OF THOSE-- 1583 01:04:44,014 --> 01:04:45,983 THOSE FEELINGS AND THAT ADRENALINE. 1584 01:04:46,016 --> 01:04:49,586 AND... THAT-- THAT KIND OF WONDER. 1585 01:04:49,619 --> 01:04:51,355 (LOPEZ) "STAR WARS" WAS NOT JUST ANOTHER TOY 1586 01:04:51,388 --> 01:04:52,522 YOU HAD AS A KID. 1587 01:04:52,556 --> 01:04:54,158 IT CHANGED EVERYTHING-- IT CHANGED FILM, 1588 01:04:54,191 --> 01:04:55,125 IT CHANGED TOY. 1589 01:04:55,159 --> 01:04:58,595 IT HIT PEOPLE ON A LEVEL THAT'S UNPARALLELED. 1590 01:04:58,628 --> 01:05:00,097 (SHARP) I STILL CARE ABOUT THESE TOYS, 1591 01:05:00,130 --> 01:05:02,066 20 YEARS AFTER I STARTED COLLECTING THEM, 1592 01:05:02,099 --> 01:05:03,567 FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT I ENJOYED THEM 1593 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:04,601 IN THE FIRST PLACE. 1594 01:05:04,634 --> 01:05:06,270 I LIKE "STAR WARS." 1595 01:05:06,303 --> 01:05:09,073 THE SENSE OF NOSTALGIA THAT I GET FROM OWNING THESE 1596 01:05:09,106 --> 01:05:10,240 HASN'T DIMINISHED AT ALL. 1597 01:05:10,274 --> 01:05:12,142 AND I STILL GET A THRILL OUT OF THEM. 1598 01:05:12,176 --> 01:05:14,278 (TROY) YOU KNOW, I KNEW IT WAS SOMETHING POPULAR 1599 01:05:14,311 --> 01:05:16,080 AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 1600 01:05:16,113 --> 01:05:18,348 BUT I THINK WHEN IT CAME TO A POINT 1601 01:05:18,382 --> 01:05:20,951 THAT, 15 OR 20 YEARS LATER, 1602 01:05:20,985 --> 01:05:26,023 SOME KID FOUND OUT THAT I WORKED ON "STAR WARS," 1603 01:05:26,056 --> 01:05:27,691 THAT'S WHEN IT CAME HOME. 1604 01:05:27,724 --> 01:05:29,693 CERTAINLY "STAR WARS" HAS HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, 1605 01:05:29,726 --> 01:05:32,696 THE LONGEVITY, UH, AND THAT IT'S STILL BEING ENJOYED 1606 01:05:32,729 --> 01:05:35,232 AT THIS POINT IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS 1607 01:05:35,265 --> 01:05:36,700 THAT MAKE YOU FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT... 1608 01:05:36,733 --> 01:05:39,469 YOUR CAREER AS A TOY DESIGNER. 1609 01:05:39,503 --> 01:05:42,706 (BEAUMONT) IT-- IT IS REALLY SATISFYING TO ME 1610 01:05:42,739 --> 01:05:45,109 TO KNOW THAT I WAS A PART OF SOMETHING 1611 01:05:45,142 --> 01:05:49,179 THAT HAD AN IMPACT ON A WHOLE GENERATION OF-- 1612 01:05:49,213 --> 01:05:52,182 OF CHILDREN, AND THEY'RE STILL ENJOYING IT TODAY. 1613 01:05:52,216 --> 01:05:55,252 MY TIME AT KENNER, THOSE FOUR YEARS WERE 1614 01:05:55,285 --> 01:05:58,122 PROBABLY THE MOST FUN I HAD IN THE TOY BUSINESS. 1615 01:05:58,155 --> 01:06:01,491 LOOKING BACK, I HAD SUCH A GREAT TIME DOING IT THAT 1616 01:06:01,525 --> 01:06:03,527 I WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING. 1617 01:06:05,229 --> 01:06:08,732 ADD IT ALL UP, YOU SAY TO YOURSELF, 1618 01:06:08,765 --> 01:06:11,101 "I WAS THERE. 1619 01:06:11,135 --> 01:06:13,603 "I WAS A PART OF THAT. 1620 01:06:13,637 --> 01:06:17,041 IT WAS SOMETHING BIGGER THAN ME." 1621 01:06:19,309 --> 01:06:20,677 ** 1622 01:06:20,710 --> 01:06:24,681 * PAST THE OCEANS FAR BELOW 1623 01:06:24,714 --> 01:06:28,685 * THROUGH THE STARS AND HEAVEN'S GLOW * 1624 01:06:28,718 --> 01:06:32,022 * TAKE CONTROL AND TAKE US HOME * 1625 01:06:32,056 --> 01:06:36,626 * ON THESE ROCKETS 1626 01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:40,697 * PAST THE OCEANS FAR BELOW * 1627 01:06:40,730 --> 01:06:44,801 * THROUGH THE STARS AND HEAVEN'S GLOW * 1628 01:06:44,834 --> 01:06:48,105 * TAKE US FROM THIS OVERLOAD * 1629 01:06:48,138 --> 01:06:50,507 * ON THESE ROCKETS 1630 01:06:57,414 --> 01:07:00,117 * AH AH AH AH 1631 01:07:00,150 --> 01:07:03,120 * ON THESE ROCKETS 1632 01:07:07,791 --> 01:07:10,460 * AH AH AH AH 1633 01:07:10,494 --> 01:07:13,230 * ON THESE ROCKETS 1634 01:07:15,632 --> 01:07:19,403 * AH AH AH AH 1635 01:07:23,773 --> 01:07:27,311 * AH AH AH AH 1636 01:07:31,648 --> 01:07:35,452 * AH AH AH AH * 120624

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