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The Indianapolis City Council

will meet again next week to debate

the proposed zoning changes.

The public is encouraged

to share comments for the record,

beginning at 7:00 p.m.

A fire swept through

a residential area in Beech Grove

last night, destroying a family home,

as well as a neighbor's tool shed.

No one was injured,

but authorities say an overturned portable heater

was responsible for the blaze,

serving as a reminder

during these cold days and nights

to never leave heating devices running while unattended.

A gas station in Crown Hill was the site of an armed robbery

shortly after midnight.

Two gunmen assaulted the cashier

and made off with over $100.

There's another casualty from the elevated train

that jumped the tracks and crashed into the street

in Chicago yesterday,

bringing the death toll to 11.

And the king of rock 'n' roll is coming to Indianapolis.

Elvis Presley will perform live in concert

at Market Square Arena on June 26th.

Tickets go on sale next week.

Hancock County Circuit Court Judge George Davis has ruled

in favor of the defense today.

Judge Davis found

that the bribery indictment

against Indianapolis Police Lieutenant Reed Moistner

did not meet legal requirements.

Moistner's attorney, John Ruckelshaus,

states that the prosecutor

is playing a, quote, "Mickey Mouse game"

in trying to force an indictment

"on a beloved police officer,"

end quote.

Prosecutor James Kelly said today

that his office will amend the indictment.

The time is 8:46,

and that's the news on a Monday morning.

Up next, My Town Indy.

♪ WIBC ♪

24 happy youngsters from Indianapolis

just returned from the Explorer Scout Olympics.

They competed with 600 other scouts

from all over the country.

I want you to know

our Indy Scout Olympians came back

with a tie for first place.

That's fantastic, Fred.

All told, they garnered 30 medals,

nine of them gold,

so congratulations to our young athletes.

You've done your city proud.

This is Fred Heckman, and that's My Town Indy.

You're listening to WIBC radio.

♪ 10 seven and oh ♪

Nice show, Fred.

Thank you.

Did you know Gerald Ford was an Eagle Scout?

I guess they'll let anyone in.

They didn't let Dick Nixon in.

It's time now for Sports Talk.

Here's Franco!

Welcome to Sports Talk!

Fred, we're all very excited

at the possibility of you joining us here

at WCBS in New York.

We love My Town Indy

and think My Town New York is just the ticket.

Well, thank you, Ralph.

I appreciate your patience while I make my decision.

Hey, listen, I know it's a big move.

You've been at your station for what, 20 years now?

Uh, 22.

Fantastic! But...

you don't wanna stay a big fish in a small pond forever.

You do that too long,

and the bigger ponds, they get full up,

and then you're one stuck fish.

Hey, what's the wife feel about all this?

Well, she's supportive,

but, you know, there's the kids to consider,

finding them new schools,

and the thing is, Ralph,

I'm news director here.

Fred, you do My Town New York for us,

you'll have full editorial control,

and you'll be reaching millions more listeners,

including the network brass.

You'll be in the company of Walter Cronkite.

How's that sound?

Well, it's all, uh, it's all very enticing.

Um... I will be in touch

as soon as I've made my decision.

Thank you again.

Bye, now.

-Editorial meeting in 10. -Great.

Thank you very much.

Are you sure I can't get you some water

or some coffee?

Oh, no, thank you, Miss. I'm fine.

And that's the international news hour.

I'm Ben Hairston, WIBC.

Can't sleep,

and you're tired of counting sheep?

You need to get Daddy!

Hey. Sorry to keep you waiting.

I'm listening. What were you saying?

Time with me is not important to you.

No, I do think it's important to make time for you.

Unless you have an interview.

Well, I-I got that interview with the congressman.

I didn't have a choice.

Uh-huh.

Uh-huh, um...

Okay, well, let me make it up to you.

Dinner, you and me,

that fancy place on Market Street.

No, I won't cancel.

No, this is not the only thing I care about.

And...

O-Okay.

Okay, but I only asked you about your boss

because you said

that he knew a guy at the police department who knew,

and I was just figuring out...

No, I don't care about the story

more than I care about you.

But if you think about it,

if I hadn't asked you about your boss,

I wouldn't have gotten the Moistner story,

which led to the public outrage,

which led to the upcoming indictment,

so, in terms of the Fourth Estate,

and it being a check

on the overreach of law enforcement,

I'm actually not sorry about that part of it, so...

Hello?

Good morning, Angie.

Good morning, Mr. Hall.

Tony! Sorry I'm late. Traffic.

Well, I appreciate you making the time, Dick.

Well, let's hope that today's meeting

can be a little more productive than the last few we've had.

Oh, yeah! I-I got a good feelin' about it.

Good. Let's use my dad's office.

Yeah.

Thanks, Angie.

Good morning, ladies.

-Good morning, Mr. Hall. -Lovely to see you, Mr. Hall.

Now, what happened to your arm?

Oh, you know me, this, that, and the other.

Uh, Dick, I-I got some...

I got some new plans for the property.

Tony, it's a little late for that, isn't it?

I thought you were here to arrange

a payment schedule on the loans

to avoid us foreclosing.

I-I know about the deadline, but just...

just do me this one favor, pal, okay?

All right.

Yeah, look, would you mind... uh...

laying this out on the desk right there for me?

I, uh... I'm an arm short.

Sure.

These look like

they're for a completely different property, Tony.

You're goddamn right they are.

Tony...

I fuckin' pulled one over on you, didn't I, Dick?

The sling was a goddamn masterpiece.

Now, you stay right there!

You stay right there.

Indianapolis Police Department.

How can I help you?

Yes, sir, this is a dire emergency.

A real serious thing.

I've just taken a prisoner. It is not a crank call.

Is Detective Hart there?

Uh, no, sir.

What problem do you got?

I got a 12-gauge sawed-off shotgun

wrapped around a man's neck.

Okay, where are you?

Uh, well, I-I'm trying to find that out, sir,

and I can't hear very well in my left ear,

and I'm holdin' a gun.

Wait, uh, hang on a minute.

I'm back.

Now, I'll tell you what.

I'd like you to send at least two police officers.

Okay, where are you at?

Well, I'll tell you where we are in just a minute,

as soon as I figure it out.

Hang on, I'm a little upset here.

I'm just trying to find out where you are.

I'll tell you, I'm a mad, mean motherfucker.

Now, I got a 12-gauge sawed-off automatic shotgun.

I got a dead man's line tied around the trigger,

and if anyone yanks on me, or yanks on the fuckin' gun,

or makes a false fuckin' move,

he will die right here!

They have done

every motherfuckin' thing there is,

and I'll tell you what, I have no intentions

of killing this man until I have to,

but if you doubt that I will, you are reading me wrong.

You... Dick?

-Yeah? -Dick, do you doubt that?

-No. -Dick, turn around!

Do you see this dead man's line? You see this dead man's line?

I see it.

Yeah. Well, tell this officer I ain't bullshittin'.

The situation is like he says, Officer.

That's right!

The Cleveland Cavaliers

defeated the Indiana Pacers

116 to 101.

Heckman residence.

Hi.

Hi.

You took the job?

Uh... not yet.

Okay.

Honestly, I-I don't know. I-I need to be sure.

"Tiffany Network,

it's the best news bureau going,"

as you say.

How are the kids?

Since two hours ago? Fine.

Carl forgot his lunch again.

Let me guess, you're in that weird closet?

Yep.

Just me and Big Mike.

What am I gonna tell Ben? The team?

I don't know. You would, you would miss the neighborhood,

the kids would miss their friends.

What about your garden?

Do not turn down the CBS job because of me, Fred Heckman.

I've told you I support you.

It's a big stage, and I know you want that.

Why don't you come by here for breakfast later, and, uh...

we can go over the pros and cons again,

and then you can tell me

how you're gonna break it to the kids.

Oh. Uh, okay.

I'll be there by 9:30.

All right.

Now, I'm not here

to pick a fight with the police department.

I don't disrespect police officers.

I got many friends on the force, and I love 'em.

How about your name, sir?

Yeah, okay. My name's Tony Kiritsis.

That's K-I-R-I-T-S-I-S.

Now, listen,

I'm very concerned about this man's family.

Not particularly about his father,

who I treated like a father on many occasions,

and he treated me like a fuckin' dog,

and this cocksucker here did the same goddamn thing!

But I'm concerned about his mother, his wife,

and especially his children.

He's got two...

you got two children, right, Dick?

-Two. -Yeah, so he's got two children.

And I don't take what I'm doing here lightly!

I know that if anyone dies

or has a heart attack in this deal,

I'm a doomed man,

but I did not plan this thing to look like a fuckin' idiot,

and if you think you can get this sonofabitch off him

without me getting what I want,

you just go ahead and try it.

You are wrong. You are dead wrong.

I will have my fuckin' revenge,

motherfucker!

Okay.

Mattress Daddy wants you to resume the ads, Fred.

Sales have been down since Franco took over.

Oh! Is that so? Well,

"Are you wide awake, tossing and turning all night?

Well, it's time for Daddy to tuck you in."

♪ Mattress... Daddy ♪

♪ Mat... tress Daddy ♪

Oh, gosh. Can't imagine why they decided to change.

You're not helping your case.

You are not helping your case, sir.

Thank you. Ben, where are you on your story?

A lights witch and door handle factory

is set to close in Gary.

Pun intended?

Somewhat.

Let's take this, move it up top,

and, uh, think about

closing with the frigid temperatures.

Maybe think about turning that

into a series on factory closures in the area.

A lot of people out there are losing their jobs.

And when did, uh, the semi-colon become passé?

Uh, right around the time

people stopped using the word passé.

Okay, okay.

Now, I'll tell you what, I don't wanna die.

There's not a suicidal bone in my fuckin' body,

but I'm a mad, mean motherfucker,

and if I had time, I'd tell you why,

and you'd be mad too.

You send those officers over here?

Well, Tony,

you haven't given me an address yet.

Dick! What's the fucking address?

129 East Market.

129 East Market!

We're up here at Meridian Mortgage

on the fourth floor.

Did they, uh, give you a hard time on the mortgage?

Oh, they tried! They tried.

Listen. Listen.

You tell those guys to just clear out the office,

'cause I don't want any of the ladies shot.

I don't want anyone upset in this deal.

I've been upset for 44 fuckin' years,

and I know what it's like.

129 East Market?

That's right.

129 East Market.

Listen, listen.

You tell those guys to play it cool,

'cause this here's the real fuckin' McCoy, Jack.

Uh... My Town Indy, what do you got?

Yes, uh... Sablosky's department store

is set to close

after 78 years in business.

Was, uh, founded

by Russian immigrant Michael Sablosky,

and it's now run by his great-grandson, Irving.

That is such a shame. I used to, uh...

I used to take the kids shopping there all the time.

I got my prom dress there.

-Me too! -Oh.

Yellow chiffon. It was my...

Oh, dear God.

Oh! I'm sorry, are we, are we boring you?

Hedy Lamarr wore chiffon in Samson and Delilah!

♪ Luminescent ♪

Enough! Enough with the Hedy Lamarr.

Look, Algiers, I'll give you, but the rest of it...

What can I say? She had it all!

You know, Fred, if there is any more room,

there's this police corruption story

that I think could use a little more airtime.

Okay, but not for My Town Indy.

Um, correct me if I'm wrong,

Sablosky's probably closing

because they can't compete with the new mall?

Exactly.

So, we as a community, as a city, as a society,

we're trading in one thing,

that's been run by one family for generations,

that we've used for generations,

we're trading it in for something newer?

Well, but also more anonymous.

Yeah, more anonymous.

I think there's a story there.

Right? It's got everything.

It's got economics, it's got cultural shifts.

A store like Sablosky's

is what makes My Town Indy "My Town Indy."

I think let's make that Friday's segment, okay?

And by the way, nobody asked me about my prom!

That wasn't an accident.

Uh, all right, last but not least, uh...

where are we on Paul's piece

on the airplane crash investigation?

By the way, where is Paul?

He is still polishing.

He's been polishing for a week.

Tell him I want the final edit tomorrow, okay?

Uh, Fred? Paul called in during the meeting.

He picked up a possible 134 on the police scanner,

and headed downtown to see what he could find.

134, is that kidnapping?

He didn't have any details.

Uh, okay. Well, get me when he calls back, please.

Okay.

Thank you, everybody. Great work!

My advice would just be to soak it, Jerry,

and if it's not better in a few days,

then you could go see a doctor.

-Thank you, Barb. -Hi, honey.

Uh, you need to do Daddy again.

Our ratings are going down the toilet.

Not a problem. Not a problem.

You haven't said anything to Jerry

about this new job, have you?

No, what gives you that idea?

Because he just spent two minutes grilling me

about his boil

rather than trying to get me to talk you out of leaving.

Oh, my god. That's so disgusting.

I'm so sorry.

-Hi, Ginny. -Hi, Mrs. Heckman.

Uh, I'm just gonna grab my coat, all right?

-Okay. -Uh, hi, Paul.

Hold on, hold on. Fred?

Confirmed, hostage situation downtown.

Hey, Paul. What's going on?

Okay, an armed man entered Meridian Mortgage

at approximately 8:55 a.m.

8:55? You got a name?

Yeah. Tony Kiritsis. K-I-R-I-T-S-I-S.

He phoned the police,

told 'em he had taken one of the men there hostage,

name is Dick Hall.

Fred, you there?

Yeah. Yeah, I'm here. Go on.

Dick Hall.

There's about... 20 cops outside the building right now.

Doesn't seem to be much of a game plan just yet.

Okay, uh... stay on the line.

I'll... we'll be right back with you.

Someone's taken Dick Hall hostage.

-What? -You know him?

Uh, passing acquaintance. We go to the same church.

-Church. -Uh... O'Brien!

Right here.

-Yeah, uh, can you read this? -Yeah.

Go get me some copy on that.

I gotta be on the air in 10 minutes, all right?

Please. Thank you. I'm sorry.

I'll get your food to go.

Thank you so much.

-Mm-hmm. -Ben, anything from the police?

Uh, yeah, yeah, uh...

police are keeping their distance, um...

I guess the guy ranted and raved to dispatch

for over 40 minutes,

claiming to have booby-trapped a shotgun

so that if anybody tried to take him out,

the trigger would automatically go off and kill the hostage.

Jesus Christ. What about road closures?

Yeah, the police are shutting down

west of downtown and rerouting,

but they don't have the bodies to shut it all down.

You got that, O'Brien?

-Yeah, got it! -Maybe we send up

Big Mike in the whirlybird and see what's what?

Jerry, I think the police

are probably gonna wanna keep the airspace clear.

People love Big Mike and the whirlybird.

Uh, Ginny! Please go down to the Hall of Records,

find out what you can about Tony Kiritsis,

K-I-R-I-T-S-I-S.

Any marriages, divorces, uh, siblings,

-living relatives, anything. -Okay.

My contact says that Kiritsis is a police booster.

I guess he's even tight with a few of 'em?

Dig a little deeper on that,

'cause he might be tight with the police

because he's been in trouble a bunch.

Does anybody know anyone who works at Meridian Mortgage?

I do.

Okay, I'm-I'm sorry. Who are you?

I'm the temp. Helen?

I filled in at Meridian last summer.

I'm still friendly

with one of the girls in the typing pool.

Uh, maybe if your friend saw anything this morning,

she'd be willing to give us an interview.

Can you... can you contact her?

Yes, sir.

Thank you so much. Uh, Judy?

Can you patch Paul into the booth?

I want to get on the air live with him from the scene.

Where's my copy?

Here.

Thank you.

Uh, Fred? There's a call for you.

Not right now. I've gotta get on the air.

Uh, O'Brien?

Get down to the scene with Paul, please!

-Fred! -What?

It's Tony Kiritsis.

Uh, what line?

-Line one. -Okay, uh...

Judy, grab a recorder, please?

I'm putting you through, Mr. Kiritsis.

This is Fred Heckman speaking.

Oh, I'd know that voice anywhere!

Do you know about me, Mr. Heckman?

I certainly do, Mr. Kiritsis.

Uh, I understand you've taken Dick Hall hostage.

Let me tell you 'bout this motherfucker.

Let me give it to you straight.

I don't lie, and I know you don't lie.

You know, I always tell my brother Jimmy,

I say, "I'm with Fred all the way.

Fred's not gonna take the truth

and tickle its balls and rub its feet

and pick its pockets on the way out the back door."

No! Fred Heckman respects the truth,

and that's why I'm calling you, baby,

Fred Heckman'll give it to you straight.

Thank you, Mr. Kiritsis, for that vote of confidence.

Uh, how is Dick Hall doing?

This cocksucker,

this soft-handed fuck who I've got wired to a shotgun,

has never uttered an honest motherfuckin' word

in his miserable fuckin' life.

He and his father,

who looks like a mortician, by the way,

which should've been my first clue

not to do business with 'em,

both of them are born-and-bred cheats and liars.

Uh, what exactly

is your business with them, Mr. Kiritsis?

Well, you know, I'm getting to that, Fred,

but I'd like you to call me Tony.

You know, that's what my friends call me,

and that's what I'd like you to call me.

Okay, I will. Thank you, Tony.

Now, listen. I'm not married.

I've never been married.

No shit.

So my obligations are more civic in their nature,

and I, you know, I've worked like a dog all my life,

and I'll tell you what, on December 19th, 1972,

I signed papers, I never seen them in my fuckin' life,

and they were so fucking stringent,

and they had me cornered,

and I said, "Fine, fine, I'll sign,

and if they fuck me around, I'll kill 'em!"

And you know what? I almost did.

Uh, I'm sorry, Tony, almost killed who?

I almost killed all four of 'em,

Dick, his father,

and his two asshole brothers,

right out in the street

when they were going to lunch,

but I got some goddamn decency in me,

so I figured I'd try this instead,

and give 'em one last chance to give me what's mine.

I can hear in your voice how upset you are.

Oh, I tried for four fuckin' years

to get away from these people, Fred.

Now, if somebody set you up

to take everything you've got,

every motherfuckin' thing you've got,

like the fuckin' mafia,

or worse...

Are they planning on foreclosing on you, Tony?

You're goddamn right they are, Fred.

Um, uh, how is Mr. Hall doing?

Well, he's lucky I'm the one holding the shotgun,

'cause I can keep my cool, baby.

My hand's not shakin' at all.

You know, it took me a long time to decide to do it this way,

'cause I know it's a one-way street,

but I ain't goin' to prison for no motherfuckers.

Not after they tortured me for four fuckin' years

for no reason other than greed.

I can see no other reason.

You know the thing about these rich people, Fred?

Uh, no, Tony, what about them?

The thing about rich people

is they don't need guns to destroy folks.

They just need poor people.

And that's why I'm calling you.

I want you to interview me live on the air,

'cause people trust you,

and if they hear it coming from you...

they'll give my story a chance.

And what is the story you want to tell?

That I am not some lunatic.

I am a man who's been wronged

by a rigged fuckin' system,

and I've had no choice

but to take matters into my own hands.

Will you give me that interview, Fred?

Well, Tony, I-I-I don't...

I'm not sure. I-I'm just not sure.

I'll tell you fuckin' what, then.

If you don't, Dick Hall's a dead man.

Okay, well, Tony,

hold on a moment, just hold on one moment.

No, but Fred, Fred, look.

You know, I don't want to disrespect you,

God knows I don't,

but you need to understand

and your listeners need to understand

that this man at the end of my shotgun,

he's the villain.

I'm not the bad guy here,

and I deserve to be heard,

and I want you to be the man to get my story out.

Tony, I-I understand

that you want to tell your side of things,

but in order to do that...

you have to keep Dick Hall alive.

No harm can ever come to him.

Do you understand?

Yeah. Yeah, no, yeah, I understand.

He's right fuckin' here.

Say hello, Dick!

Hello.

You see that? No harm done.

Okay, thank you, thank you. Thank you.

Now-now... you keep your side of the agreement.

I'm gonna see what I can do here

to maybe find somebody who can tape your interview,

and we'll get it on the air.

Live interview, Fred!

It has to be live.

Look, look, you know, I don't want no motherfuckers

changing my words after the fact

or leaving out the important parts.

Well, I'm gonna have to check

with some people here about that.

Yeah. Listen, I'm flying the coop here.

I'm going back to base camp.

I'm gonna call you back at oh-eleven-hundred.

I'll be waiting for your call.

Fred Heckman waiting for my call.

I'll be in touch, baby.

Fred, we absolutely cannot put this man on the air.

You heard the mouth on him.

The FCC fines alone,

you know how much they fucking charge for a "fuck"?

$300.

$300! Per "fuck"!

Judy, read the transcript.

"This cocksucker,

this soft-handed fuck who I've got wired to a shotgun,

has never uttered an honest motherfucking word

in his miserable fucking life."

The fines for that one sentence alone would be, Pam?

$1,200.

And they probably charge more for a "c-sucker."

You multiply that one sentence by a four-sentence paragraph,

and you've got...?

$4,800.

4,800 fucking dollars!

I get the picture, okay?

I get the picture.

Maybe the FCC won't dock us

because it's for the public good.

No, there's no way that this qualifies.

No, no! This is the biggest local story in a decade,

and we got an exclusive with an unhinged gunman.

-Of course it qualifies! -Guys. Guys. Guys!

It's not just the FCC. It's our listeners.

That's right!

This is a family-fucking- oriented radio station.

Advertisers will pull their spots.

On my watch!

You can't say this isn't news.

Movin' day! Let's get going, baby.

I need everyone to exit the building.

This is an emergency.

Come on.

-What? -On the double!

Officer, what can you tell us?

Let's go! Let's go!

Right now.

Let's go.

Okay, no, no, Steve? I gotta go.

Thanks for the non-answer.

Oh, Fred?

Legal says they can't predict whether the FCC will fine us.

Jerry, I gotta get on the air.

Look, while I respect and appreciate

that revenue is an important part of this work...

An important part of this work?

It's how we stay in business, Fred!

This is a major news story.

I swear, Jerry is such a coward.

Mm, it's a good quality to have in a station manager.

I mean, you like getting paid, don't you?

We gonna talk about whether we do it?

Say what you want to say.

What's to stop Kiritsis from killing Hall live on air?

Dick Hall is at the end of a shotgun.

Tony Kiritsis is gonna call this station in 55 minutes.

What do we do when he calls?

We answer the phone.

The rest, I don't know.

But at the moment

we think we're doing something to save someone's life,

we are in the story, we lose our way as journalists.

I will hold the line.

Yeah, says the guy who pulls the cheese out of mousetraps.

What, you think we don't know about that?

That's the funny thing about lines.

They're always moving.

♪ WIBC ♪

This is Fred Heckman, WIBC Radio,

with breaking news.

A hostage situation has developed

at Meridian Mortgage in downtown Indianapolis.

Everybody stand back.

Hey, Paul.

Just one kidnapper, right?

Yeah.

Police have orders to observe, but not engage him.

They're just gonna let him walk outta here?

What if he starts threatening people, you know?

Like us, for example.

Come on!

That's it. That's it.

You can go right out that door.

Come here.

Go! Go!

He's coming out!

That's it!

You just take it easy there, baby!

Holy shit.

I'm not here to hurt cops!

Je... sus.

Go!

I ain't ashamed of a fuckin' thing I'm doing!

I do need to tell you how badly I feel

about fucking with you guys like this, though!

Why are you doing this, Tony?

He's askin' why I'm doing it!

It's kind of hard for some people

to be able to understand,

but it ain't hard for my friends to understand it,

'cause they've seen me die for four fuckin' years!

I'm gonna talk to Fred Heckman! He'll get my story out!

Well, I'll be goddamned.

I thought I parked here, but I...

I gave my spot to some old lady.

That's her car there, not mine.

What color is it?

It's a maroon Monte Carlo!

Is that it?

Shit.

Nope!

Come on.

Come on, Dick! Go! Go! Go!

Following...

Back off, boy scout!

Ginny, why aren't you at the Hall of Records yet?

Jerry wanted me to track down Mr. Fairbanks.

That was not your assignment.

I'm going over your head, Fred.

Jerry...

if you call the station owners right now,

and you... and you ask them for permission

on how to cover a story,

you are setting a very dangerous precedent

that you cannot undo.

If we do this without their permission,

it's auf wiedersehen, sayonara, good night!

Ginny! Stay on it.

Okay, so you decided?

-I... -Look, I'm not sure

that I agree with this interview on its merits,

but as your friend, I gotta tell you

that if Tony decides to kill Dick

in the middle of your live interview,

that is all you're gonna be remembered for.

That is gonna be your legacy.

Fred?

O'Brien says Kiritsis has left the building with Dick.

WENB has a cameraman there.

They're broadcasting live.

Ben, get on the air, please.

And patch O'Brien through from the scene.

Okay.

Who puts a shoe-support store

right next to another shoe-support store, huh, Dick?

I don't know.

You telling me that's a better business plan

than what I came up with?

That the kind of thing you're backing

while ruining my dreams?

I didn't try to ruin anything, Tony.

We tried to help you.

No one's asking you, Dick!

Go! Go, go.

Young man!

Who are you?

Who is this?

I'm a pastor.

Who the hell is that?

Why you holding that gun to that man's head?

Pastor, this has nothing to do with you!

This is none of your business.

All of God's children are my business.

You don't have to worry about this man's soul.

He's goin' straight to Hell for what he's done.

Then let him go! And take me instead.

Look, God sees the good in you

that you might not see in yourself at this moment.

If you're in so much pain,

and you need to express yourself in this way,

then please,

let me take my brother's place.

He wants to exchange himself for Dick.

I don't know who this God is you're talking about,

or where he's been for the last 44 years,

hiding behind some burning bush, maybe,

but he sure as hell hasn't been looking out for me.

Get him outta here!

-Go! -Hey.

Oh, that poor man.

Get back!

Whew! It's fuckin' cold, Dick.

Better hope I don't shiver so much

I pull this trigger by accident.

Oh!

Oh, my God!

Guys! Guys!

Back up!

Goddamn miracle the shotgun didn't go off.

Okay, back! Stay back!

Gun! Sir, gun!

Gun! Gun! Back up!

Cover, cover!

Put that gun down, or I'll fucking kill him!

Down! Dwyer!

Guys, back!

-Oh! -Who knows how to...

I got it. I got it.

Come on.

-Just use that one. -Go around...

-Up, up, up, up. -You just wanna use that one.

Wiggle it back and forth.

Stop! Right there! Stop right there.

Let me adjust it!

My arm's getting pretty fuckin' tired here.

Dwyer! Holster your weapon, Dwyer.

Holster your weapon now!

Put it away!

There, was that so fuckin' hard?

Shit!

All right, Dick, stand up. Slowly.

Oh...

Oh, God have mercy. Come on!

I ain't bullshitting you here!

Shotgun's loaded, the safety's off,

and the dead man's line's rigged!

It's one in a thousand it didn't go off.

What is this, the Macy's Day Parade, goddammit?

You! You, come here.

Turn around.

Turn around! Turn around.

Turn around!

Come on. Come on!

Nice and easy, baby.

Nice and steady.

Close the goddamn door.

Now drive.

Where? Where to?

What do you mean, "Where to?"

You just fuckin' drive, baby.

You got a shotgun to your head.

We're on the move!

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Turn the sirens on. We're in a cop car.

Right there.

No, right down there.

Attention, all units.

It's your chief,

and this is for whoever left their fucking door open

and the engine running.

I'm gonna find you, and when I do,

I'm gonna throw you down a fucking well!

Over!

We all just watched the same thing.

We watched a man whose life is at the mercy of another man.

I don't know if putting Tony on the air

is gonna save Dick Hall's life,

but my instinct says that it just might,

doing the interview.

Chief Gallagher's on his way down here.

It might give us cover with Fairbanks.

Clint, get the studio ready to go live.

On it.

Take a left.

Nice and slow. Go slow.

Pull up right next to the yellow Oldsmobile.

Right here. That's it.

Yeah, and just park. Yeah.

That's a little hard on the brake there, Dick.

Now, come on, let's get out nice and slow.

Where are we going?

To my humble abode, Dick.

My humble abode.

Come on.

Need anything?

No.

Thank you.

-Good luck. -Yeah.

Yeah, come on in.

Thank you.

Oh, um...

I spoke to my friend at Meridian Mortgage.

Um, she was there today.

Uh, she said she'd be happy to speak with somebody here

about what she saw.

Well, thank you for making that call.

Ah, you're welcome.

Um...

do you think that when this is all over with,

you'd be willing to put in

a good word for me at my temp agency?

It would be my absolute pleasure.

Thank you.

Better get ready, Dick.

The whole world's gonna know the truth about your family.

And if this doesn't work,

either you die, I die,

or we both die.

It's a dealer's choice!

WIBC.

Hello! Yeah, good morning.

This is, uh,

this is Tony Kiritsis calling for Fred Heckman.

Yeah.

♪ WIBC ♪

♪ Indianapolis ♪

I would like to caution our listeners

that what you are about to hear

will be an interview with Tony Kiritsis,

the man who took mortgage executive Dick Hall

hostage at gunpoint this morning

in downtown Indianapolis.

After considerable debate,

we here at WIBC

have agreed to his request for an interview.

This will be occurring momentarily,

and will be live and uncensored.

Some things may be said

or may occur during this interview

that some might find disturbing.

If you are listening to this program with children,

I strongly urge you to turn it off right now.

The interview will begin

in five seconds.

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You are live and on the air.