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Jane? kut
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Hi Lisbon
What are you doing?
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just working
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Okay well out here
in the real world
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we have a case
We have to go
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Yeah Okay
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kut
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Let's go
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You think you're so mysterious
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I know what you're
doing in there
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Oh really? What?
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You're making a list
trying to figure out
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who it is that you've
met that's Red John.
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Not just met,
shaken hands with.
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How many people are on
that list, anyway?
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A lot.
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Got a male shooting victim.
Looks to be early 20s.
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Happened about an
hour ago. No ID.
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- Who called it in?
- Bartender.
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We're getting a statement.
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What do the witnesses
have to say?
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'Uh, not sure.
Cho's talking to them.'
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Has thecoroner taken
a look at him yet?
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Yeah, he's on his way.
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What... what's that on his face?
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- What?
- Oh, boy.
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Happy anniversary!
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- What's goin' on?
- Come in, everybody!
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Ladies and gentlemen.
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Ten years ago,
Teresa Lisbon
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left the San Francisco
Police Department
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'to join the California Bureau
of Investigation.'
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Today she is without doubt
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the rootinest, tootinest,
sharp-shootinest cop
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in the whole state
of California.
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Happy anniversary, boss.
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Hear, hear.
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So if we could start
the music, please?
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- I had no idea.
- Let's party!
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Congratulations, Lisbon.
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Thank you, Ron.
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Why did you do this?
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It was Rigsby's idea.
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Yeah?
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Is he taking
his clothes off?
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- He is.
- Oh, my God.
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Uh-oh. Yeah.
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- Congratulations.
- Thank you, Ray.
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Haffner. Good to see you.
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You know, I really enjoyed
when we worked together.
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We should do it again sometime.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, you mean
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when you almost got me fired?
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Yeah, that was
a lot of fun.
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Hey, um, can we grab lunch?
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There's just something
I wanna discuss with you.
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Yeah, sure.
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- Alright. I'll call you.
- Jane.
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How come he doesn't like me? You
got lunch here, you got..
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- Oh, look out.
- What?
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Okay, that's enough.
Shoo. Okay?
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It was fun.
But not my butt.
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That was the office.
Homicide out in Placer County.
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The team that was supposed
to cover for us today
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can't make it out there.
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Well, I don't think we can
drag Lisbon away from this.
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- Can't we cover it, Cho?
- Yeah. Yeah, we can.
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Okay. Where did you
find that guy?
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That was fun.
But we're done, okay?
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Oh, yeah.
Those are nice moves.
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CBI. I'm Agent Cho,
this is Patrick Jane.
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Rick Anaya.
Chief here in Elliston.
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Good to meet you.
This way.
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The bodies were found
in a secret basement
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under the barn floor.
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And what's with
the secret basement?
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Yeah, probably
built in the '20s
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to hide booze
during prohibition.
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My dad, who was
chief before me
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said there used to be stills
all through these parts.
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Kids were playing
in the barn
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found a trap door,
went in, found some bones.
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If you boys are still
in town for dinner
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Ella's Diner
on Allen street..
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...best damn chili in town.
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What's the coroner say?
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Well, right now he's guessing
they died 20, 25 years ago.
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Whoa.
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'He confirms
three bodies in all.'
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What is it?
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Uh, looks like
a shotgun pellet.
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Yeah, we found some
of those under the bones.
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Figured they fell out
the body as they decomposed.
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'No shell casings
in here, though.'
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Must have shot them
somewhere else
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brought the bodies here.
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- 'Anything else?'
- Yeah, a couple of things.
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High school class ring.
Guess it fell off one of them.
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We'll check that out.
Is that it?
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No, this, .38.
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And one round's
been fired.
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Not in here,
as far as we can tell.
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You see that wire?
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On the wrist?
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'See, I'm guessing
at least two of the victims'
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'were tied up with it.'
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This is very depressing.
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I'm gonna wait outside.
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The Red John symbol
was on the side of the barn?
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- That's weird.
- Yeah.
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Must have been there
15, 20 years.
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Wonder what it means.
What did Jane say?
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Nothing. Wouldn't talk about it.
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Okay. Everybody feel
as bad as I do?
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- Not if you feel like you look.
- I feel fine.
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What time did you get back
to the party last night?
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A little past 10:00.
Not that you noticed.
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Yeah. That, uh, Tequila
was a killer.
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Did I, uh...do
anything embarrassing?
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- Yes.
- Really? What?
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Good morning.
Thank you for the party.
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- It was very thoughtful.
- You're welcome.
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But I am never gonna forgive
you for that stripper.
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Where are we
with the three victims?
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Coroner says they probably
died 25 years ago, so 1988.
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Talked to
the ring manufacturer.
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They traced it back
to a Lester Bradovich
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who went to a high school
in Dixon.
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Checking him out now.
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The gun that was found near
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the bodies isn't registered.
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No sign of the bullet
that was fired, either.
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But I've got techs sweeping
the area around the barn.
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Nice work. Let me
know what you find.
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She was kidding, right?
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- About never forgiving?
- Nope.
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How was the rest
of the party?
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Torture. That can never,
ever happen again.
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Ten years, huh?
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More, actually.
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Every year with you
counts as two.
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Are those from the crime scene?
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Yes.
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This can't be
a coincidence, can it?
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There's no such thing.
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These murders happened ten years
before Red John was even active.
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A shotgun was never
his weapon of choice.
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True.
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'Well, what happened?
How'd it get there?'
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Hmm.
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They're excellent questions.
You know where to find me.
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Got a hit
on Lester Bradovich.
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He had a couple
of arrests in the mid-'80s.
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Small stuff. Possession,
drunk and disorderly.
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No record of him
after 1987.
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- Family?
- A brother in town.
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But here's the weird
thing, nobody ever filed
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a missing persons report on him.
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That's odd,
you and Rigsby go
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and see what
the brother has to say.
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Alright.
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So what didI do last night?
Come on. I'm dying here.
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You got up on the table
and sang "Bohemian Rhapsody."
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Oh. I do a pretty good
Freddie Mercury.
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That's not so embarrassing.
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Maybe not for you.
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Gordon Bradovich?
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Yeah?
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We need to talk to you
about your brother Lester.
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Lester? Are you serious?
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You're-you're positive
it's Lester?
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We're waiting for final
confirmation from the coroner.
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But we're pretty sure, yeah.
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This is just unreal.
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When was your last contact
with your brother?
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Oh, God, uh, sometime
in the late '80s.
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So you haven't seen him
in almost 25 years
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but you never reported him
missing. Why is that?
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We didn't think
he was missing.
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I don't understand.
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Lester had been
in a lot of trouble.
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Drugs and scrapes
with the law, and..
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...then, uh when
he was about 24
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he-he joined with this,
uh, this group.
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A little weird, but, uh
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very strict, very
disciplined.
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Seemed to straighten him out.
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He, uh, he got calmer
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stopped getting
into trouble.
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And what does that have to do
with his disappearance?
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Well, after about
a year with them
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he, uh, he came
to my dad and me
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and he said that he had
to break off all contact
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with his biological family.
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Yeah, his group said
that this was the only way
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his true identity
could emerge.
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We were pretty hurt.
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But Lester, he was totally
matter-of-fact about it.
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Had to be done.
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That was...the last
time I talked to him.
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Now you're telling me
he's been dead all this time?
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I just, I-I don't
even know what to think.
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What's the name
of the group?
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Vision.
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No.
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Visualize.
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You've heardof it?
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- Hello?
- Teresa.
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Ray Haffner. I've been
looking for you.
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Hey, Ray. What's up?
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I was wondering if we could
snag that lunch today
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at one o'clock at
the State House Cafe.
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Sure. You wanna tell me what
this is about? I'm intrigued.
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Then my plan is working.
I'll see you then.
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- What does he want?
- Lunch.
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- Mm.
- Mm.
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Mr. Jane. Agent Lisbon.
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Good to see you again.
Jason Cooper.
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Brother Cooper. Ah.
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Last time, uh, I saw you was,
uh, when Bret Stiles
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had just uncovered your plan
to take over this place.
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I thought he would have
gutted you like a trout
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but here you are.
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Bret's generosity
is only exceeded
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by his capacity
for forgiveness.
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Is Mr. Stiles here? We need
to speak with him.
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Unfortunately, Bret was called
out of the country this morning.
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Convenient.
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But he asked me to answer
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any question you have.
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Won't you come this
way? There's tea.
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Lester Bradovich belonged
to our church, I believe there's
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a good chance that
all three of the bodies
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you found were church members.
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Well, what makes you
say that, Mr. Cooper?
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These murders occurred in 1988.
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At that time, Visualize
owned the Elliston farm.
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Everyone who worked there
was a member of the church.
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Why did Bret Stiles
own a farm?
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He had a dream.
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He saw Visualize controlling
an agricultural empire
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based on wheat, but he
wanted each of the farms
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to be a self-sustaining
bio-community.
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So they had to raise their own
vegetables and livestock.
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It was a grand vision.
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The church bought
a half-dozen farms.
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Half a dozen? All run by people
that knew nothing about farming?
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Let's just say that enthusiasm
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was a poor substitute
for expertise.
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They all failed
in a year or two.
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Lester Bradovich
ran the Elliston farm
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with two others..
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...Martin Talbot
and Allan Charney.
254
00:11:02,444 --> 00:11:05,839
That's what we have on them.
255
00:11:05,926 --> 00:11:08,885
'In July of 1988, when we hadn't
had any word for some weeks'
256
00:11:08,972 --> 00:11:11,322
we sent people down
to investigate.
257
00:11:11,409 --> 00:11:13,020
They found it empty.
258
00:11:13,107 --> 00:11:15,631
We assumed that Bradovich
and the others had abandoned it.
259
00:11:15,718 --> 00:11:18,634
Why didn't you file
a missing persons report?
260
00:11:18,721 --> 00:11:20,941
They were adults.
We weren't their parents.
261
00:11:21,028 --> 00:11:23,378
We assumed they'd run off.
262
00:11:23,465 --> 00:11:27,643
Besides, we have
found, then and now
263
00:11:27,730 --> 00:11:31,647
that the police rarely take
church complaints seriously
264
00:11:31,734 --> 00:11:33,649
when we do file them.
265
00:11:36,913 --> 00:11:40,090
But we are all horrified
by what happened.
266
00:11:40,177 --> 00:11:43,137
We'll do anything at all
to assist in your investigation.
267
00:11:43,224 --> 00:11:45,879
You have my word.
268
00:11:45,966 --> 00:11:47,228
Hmm.
269
00:11:47,315 --> 00:11:49,665
Martin Talbot was
older. No family.
270
00:11:49,752 --> 00:11:51,493
That explains why nobody
was looking for him.
271
00:11:51,580 --> 00:11:53,234
Allan Charney
had family in Idaho.
272
00:11:53,321 --> 00:11:55,062
They did file a missing
persons report
273
00:11:55,149 --> 00:11:57,020
but nothing ever came of it.
274
00:11:57,107 --> 00:11:58,630
There's no other information
on either one of them.
275
00:11:58,718 --> 00:12:00,241
Alright, call Charney's family
276
00:12:00,328 --> 00:12:01,851
and let them know
what happened.
277
00:12:01,938 --> 00:12:05,725
Visualize is sending down
their files on Elliston farm.
278
00:12:05,812 --> 00:12:07,901
Go through 'em. There might
be something useful.
279
00:12:07,988 --> 00:12:10,251
Alright. Will do.
280
00:12:10,338 --> 00:12:11,774
I hate cold cases.
281
00:12:11,861 --> 00:12:14,298
No evidence, no witnesses
and where do you start?
282
00:12:14,385 --> 00:12:16,474
Oh, it's not so bad.
You know what you need?
283
00:12:16,561 --> 00:12:17,824
A viable suspect?
284
00:12:17,911 --> 00:12:20,827
Big bowl of Chili Verde.
Come on. Let's go.
285
00:12:34,362 --> 00:12:35,580
Ella's Diner?
286
00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:37,844
Best damn chili
in town, I'm told.
287
00:12:37,931 --> 00:12:40,237
Please tell me we're
not here for chili.
288
00:12:40,324 --> 00:12:43,675
Of course not. We're here
to find a killer.
289
00:12:49,551 --> 00:12:50,813
What are we doing here, Jane?
290
00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:52,641
Look around.
291
00:12:52,728 --> 00:12:57,037
The collective memory of this
entire town is in this room.
292
00:12:57,124 --> 00:12:59,343
Anything that happened
in the last 50 years
293
00:12:59,430 --> 00:13:00,780
you'll find out
about it here.
294
00:13:00,867 --> 00:13:02,564
- Here you go.
- Thank you.
295
00:13:02,651 --> 00:13:04,740
- Lemon for your tea?
- No, thanks.
296
00:13:04,827 --> 00:13:06,481
'Ma'am, we're with the CBI.'
297
00:13:06,568 --> 00:13:08,222
We're investigating
some murders
298
00:13:08,309 --> 00:13:10,267
that took place
in town 20 years back.
299
00:13:10,354 --> 00:13:12,182
You mean the three
bodies in the barn?
300
00:13:12,269 --> 00:13:13,575
Yeah, I heard.
301
00:13:13,662 --> 00:13:16,186
The victims were from
a group called Visualize
302
00:13:16,273 --> 00:13:18,362
that owned the farm. Do
you know anything about that?
303
00:13:18,449 --> 00:13:21,670
All I know is that they
found three dead guys.
304
00:13:21,757 --> 00:13:23,019
Can I get you anything else?
305
00:13:23,106 --> 00:13:25,152
No, thanks.
Collective memory?
306
00:13:25,239 --> 00:13:26,762
Uh, if I may
307
00:13:26,849 --> 00:13:28,982
who told you about
the three dead guys?
308
00:13:29,069 --> 00:13:30,244
Everybody knows.
309
00:13:30,331 --> 00:13:32,855
Yes, but who told you?
310
00:13:41,821 --> 00:13:43,518
Look, I don't wanna
get anybody in trouble.
311
00:13:43,605 --> 00:13:46,869
Oh, of course. Thank you.
312
00:13:51,134 --> 00:13:52,919
Patrick Jane.
I'm with the CBI.
313
00:13:53,006 --> 00:13:54,268
What's your name?
314
00:13:54,355 --> 00:13:55,965
Miles MacCambridge. Why?
315
00:13:56,052 --> 00:13:57,662
'This is my colleague,
Teresa Lisbon.'
316
00:13:57,749 --> 00:13:59,099
- Hi.
- You're the town gossip.
317
00:13:59,186 --> 00:14:02,015
- I take it?
- I am?
318
00:14:02,102 --> 00:14:05,018
Retired schoolteacher,
by the looks.
319
00:14:05,105 --> 00:14:07,194
Who's your source
on the murders?
320
00:14:07,281 --> 00:14:08,499
Former student,
I'm guessing?
321
00:14:08,586 --> 00:14:10,414
Am I in some kind of trouble?
322
00:14:10,501 --> 00:14:11,633
- Possibly.
- No, you're not.
323
00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,808
Jury's still out.
324
00:14:12,895 --> 00:14:14,592
'We're investigating
the murders'
325
00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,681
and we'd really appreciate
it if you could tell us
326
00:14:16,768 --> 00:14:18,814
anything about that farm
that we found the bodies at.
327
00:14:18,901 --> 00:14:22,339
Oh, yeah. Well, it's-it's
been through a lot of hands.
328
00:14:22,426 --> 00:14:23,819
It's not very good land.
329
00:14:23,906 --> 00:14:26,126
No one's worked it
for at least a decade.
330
00:14:26,213 --> 00:14:27,954
What about the group,
Visualize?
331
00:14:28,041 --> 00:14:30,086
They owned the farm
back in the mid-'80s?
332
00:14:30,173 --> 00:14:33,002
Sure, I remember them.
They stuck out.
333
00:14:33,089 --> 00:14:35,135
Pretty useless as farm folk.
334
00:14:35,222 --> 00:14:37,485
How did they get along
with the other people in town?
335
00:14:37,572 --> 00:14:39,574
Were there any conflicts
that you remember?
336
00:14:39,661 --> 00:14:41,837
They mostly kept to themselves.
337
00:14:41,924 --> 00:14:43,795
I remember one person
bitching about 'em
338
00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:46,711
a farmer named Tom Crayhew.
339
00:14:46,798 --> 00:14:49,149
'Couldn't tell you what he was
upset about, too long ago.'
340
00:14:49,236 --> 00:14:51,586
Uh, we really appreciate it.
Thank you.
341
00:14:51,673 --> 00:14:54,328
- So I'm not in any trouble?
- Jury's still out.
342
00:14:54,415 --> 00:14:57,244
- You're fine.
- Look here.
343
00:14:57,331 --> 00:15:00,247
Took me up on
my recommendation, I see?
344
00:15:00,334 --> 00:15:02,205
Tell Elena to put
your check on my tab.
345
00:15:02,292 --> 00:15:06,122
-Aw, that's okay.
- Please. It's a long tab.
346
00:15:06,209 --> 00:15:08,733
Enjoy.
347
00:15:08,820 --> 00:15:10,387
You don't like him.
348
00:15:10,474 --> 00:15:12,389
- Former student?
- Yes.
349
00:15:12,476 --> 00:15:16,306
Mean kid? Pulled on
the girls' pigtails?
350
00:15:16,393 --> 00:15:17,742
He's chief of police
351
00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:20,789
which is a pretty powerful
position around here.
352
00:15:20,876 --> 00:15:21,921
If you'll excuse me.
353
00:15:27,927 --> 00:15:29,319
Is this the stuff
from Visualize?
354
00:15:29,406 --> 00:15:31,843
Yeah, it's mostly letters
from the farm to Visualize
355
00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:33,933
asking for more help
and more money.
356
00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:35,978
And Bradovich, Charney,
and Talbot were the only
357
00:15:36,065 --> 00:15:38,589
full-time workers, but Visualize
was sending temporary people
358
00:15:38,676 --> 00:15:41,723
all the time some members,
some potential recruits.
359
00:15:41,810 --> 00:15:43,551
Their names weren't even
recorded most of the time.
360
00:15:43,638 --> 00:15:45,422
- Most of the time?
- 'Yeah there's one lead.'
361
00:15:45,509 --> 00:15:47,424
A guy named Peter Dibuono
is listed
362
00:15:47,511 --> 00:15:49,687
as working at the
farm in '86 and '87.
363
00:15:49,774 --> 00:15:51,254
'He might be able
to tell us something.'
364
00:15:51,341 --> 00:15:52,952
I reached him on e-mail.
He's coming in to talk.
365
00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:54,823
Good. You and Rigsby
go to Elliston.
366
00:15:54,910 --> 00:15:56,999
Talk to a farmer
named Tom Crayhew.
367
00:15:57,086 --> 00:16:00,263
Apparently he had some sort
of beef with the Visualize farm.
368
00:16:00,350 --> 00:16:02,135
- I'll be back in an hour.
- Where you going?
369
00:16:02,222 --> 00:16:03,397
Lunch.
370
00:16:04,746 --> 00:16:06,269
'No, no. My hat's off.'
371
00:16:06,356 --> 00:16:08,271
I-I only lasted two
days as Jane's boss.
372
00:16:08,358 --> 00:16:09,707
He nearly killed me.
373
00:16:09,794 --> 00:16:11,840
So you-you clearly
know things that I don't.
374
00:16:11,927 --> 00:16:13,537
He is not that hard to handle.
375
00:16:13,624 --> 00:16:16,758
Really? Seriously?
'Cause I know a couple..
376
00:16:16,845 --> 00:16:19,804
...thousand people who
would disagree with that.
377
00:16:19,891 --> 00:16:21,719
So...ten years?
378
00:16:21,806 --> 00:16:23,721
People keep on saying that.
I don't know why.
379
00:16:23,808 --> 00:16:25,723
I don't feel any different.
380
00:16:25,810 --> 00:16:27,638
I'm hoping it means
you're ready for a change.
381
00:16:27,725 --> 00:16:30,163
Oh, what is that
supposed to mean?
382
00:16:30,250 --> 00:16:32,078
I'm leaving CBI.
383
00:16:32,165 --> 00:16:34,602
I've lined up some capital.
I'm starting my own firm.
384
00:16:34,689 --> 00:16:39,215
Security and investigations
for high-end clients.
385
00:16:39,302 --> 00:16:41,087
I was wondering if you'd
consider coming with me.
386
00:16:41,174 --> 00:16:42,088
Ray.
387
00:16:42,175 --> 00:16:43,393
You're one of the top agents
388
00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,308
in the division.
Everyone knows it.
389
00:16:45,395 --> 00:16:47,658
You deserve a position
commensurate with your gifts.
390
00:16:47,745 --> 00:16:49,921
I am flattered, Ray,
but I like my job.
391
00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:51,793
Yeah, I like my job,
too, I'd like it better
392
00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,100
if I'd had a raise
in the past three years.
393
00:16:54,187 --> 00:16:56,189
California's broke,
if you didn't notice.
394
00:16:56,276 --> 00:16:59,844
It's not about the money.
395
00:16:59,931 --> 00:17:01,672
That's the starting salary.
396
00:17:04,762 --> 00:17:06,851
That'll keep you in
leather jackets, I think.
397
00:17:08,940 --> 00:17:12,335
It's not about the money.
I like what I do.
398
00:17:12,422 --> 00:17:15,034
It's a good job.
It's good work.
399
00:17:15,121 --> 00:17:16,861
Is it the work,
or is it Jane?
400
00:17:16,948 --> 00:17:18,602
He's part of the work.
401
00:17:18,689 --> 00:17:21,649
Sure. And you guys-you guys
have a track record
402
00:17:21,736 --> 00:17:23,520
I-I understand why you
wanna stick with that.
403
00:17:23,607 --> 00:17:26,567
But if there's one thing
that I've learned about Jane
404
00:17:26,654 --> 00:17:28,351
it's that catching bad guys
is a game to him
405
00:17:28,438 --> 00:17:30,875
and-and he's gonna
quit someday.
406
00:17:30,962 --> 00:17:32,181
Maybe because he gets Red John
407
00:17:32,268 --> 00:17:34,227
maybe because, what,
he just gets bored.
408
00:17:34,314 --> 00:17:37,534
When that happens, you're
gonna be on your own.
409
00:17:37,621 --> 00:17:39,449
Driving out
to some crime scene
410
00:17:39,536 --> 00:17:41,103
in the middle of
nowhere at 5:00 a.m.
411
00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:44,585
Asking Rigsby what
sort of sad story
412
00:17:44,672 --> 00:17:46,413
you gotta unravel this time.
413
00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:50,982
Is that what
you really want?
414
00:17:54,290 --> 00:17:56,553
Because I think
you deserve better.
415
00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,512
Think about it.
416
00:18:12,569 --> 00:18:14,093
Mr. Crayhew?
417
00:18:18,967 --> 00:18:22,013
Mr. Crayhew, we're
with CBI. Open up, please!
418
00:18:22,101 --> 00:18:23,319
'I will not be bullied!'
419
00:18:23,406 --> 00:18:24,973
Put the gun down.
420
00:18:25,060 --> 00:18:27,236
You cannot make a man
render unto Caesar
421
00:18:27,323 --> 00:18:29,064
that which he does not
choose to render.
422
00:18:29,151 --> 00:18:30,413
- What?
- Sir.
423
00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:31,893
Whatever the problem is,
we can work it out.
424
00:18:31,980 --> 00:18:33,808
Just put the gun away.
425
00:18:33,895 --> 00:18:35,853
Federal income tax
is an illegal taking
426
00:18:35,940 --> 00:18:38,117
under the Fifth Amendment of the
United States Constitution
427
00:18:38,204 --> 00:18:39,640
and I will not pay it!
428
00:18:39,727 --> 00:18:41,816
- Sir, we're not with the IRS.
- Says you.
429
00:18:41,903 --> 00:18:43,557
We have nothing to do
with your taxes.
430
00:18:43,644 --> 00:18:46,037
We wanna talk about some
killings at a nearby farm.
431
00:18:47,517 --> 00:18:50,607
You're not federal agents?
432
00:18:50,694 --> 00:18:52,043
- You're not here to collect?
- No, sir.
433
00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:54,785
California Bureau
of Investigation.
434
00:18:54,872 --> 00:18:56,570
Now put the gun down.
Do it now.
435
00:19:00,617 --> 00:19:04,012
Yeah, I remember those
clowns from Visualize.
436
00:19:04,099 --> 00:19:06,362
That land's right next to mine.
437
00:19:06,449 --> 00:19:08,495
Killed everything
they-they touched.
438
00:19:08,582 --> 00:19:09,670
Plus they were thieves.
439
00:19:09,757 --> 00:19:11,541
Why thieves?
440
00:19:11,628 --> 00:19:14,153
Well, they stole
my damn water.
441
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,329
I got a stream
up that way.
442
00:19:16,416 --> 00:19:18,026
They diverted it
into their fields
443
00:19:18,113 --> 00:19:19,723
like I wouldn't notice.
444
00:19:19,810 --> 00:19:25,294
So me and my 12-gauge went
to talk it over with them.
445
00:19:25,381 --> 00:19:28,558
I told those wackadoodles
to stop stealing my water
446
00:19:28,645 --> 00:19:30,473
and one of 'em
pulled a revolver.
447
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,258
I thought we were gonna
have a shooting right there.
448
00:19:32,345 --> 00:19:33,694
Do you recall what
kind of revolver it was?
449
00:19:33,781 --> 00:19:35,478
Nope.
450
00:19:35,565 --> 00:19:39,352
Was one of these...the man
that threatened you?
451
00:19:45,706 --> 00:19:47,838
It was that one.
452
00:19:47,925 --> 00:19:52,452
He was wound up.
Had that look, you know?
453
00:19:52,539 --> 00:19:54,280
Just ready to go.
454
00:19:54,367 --> 00:19:57,196
I truly thought I was gonna
have to shoot him right there.
455
00:19:57,283 --> 00:19:59,850
But I didn't.
456
00:19:59,937 --> 00:20:03,767
I didn't.
I swear to God.
457
00:20:03,854 --> 00:20:07,293
But I don't condemn whoever
did shoot him, though.
458
00:20:07,380 --> 00:20:09,556
You've heard how they
treated their animals?
459
00:20:09,643 --> 00:20:11,166
No. How?
460
00:20:11,253 --> 00:20:15,344
They...tortured 'em, basically.
461
00:20:15,431 --> 00:20:17,564
Unnatural stuff.
462
00:20:17,651 --> 00:20:19,087
Satanic ritual stuff.
463
00:20:19,174 --> 00:20:21,437
Really? You know that
for a fact?
464
00:20:21,524 --> 00:20:23,309
You don't believe me,
talk to the vet.
465
00:20:23,396 --> 00:20:24,788
She was on 'em all the time
466
00:20:24,875 --> 00:20:27,965
about how they were
treating their stock.
467
00:20:28,052 --> 00:20:30,229
She was ready to call
the county on 'em.
468
00:20:30,316 --> 00:20:31,795
And what's this vet's name?
469
00:20:31,882 --> 00:20:35,712
I think she retired now. Hmm.
470
00:20:35,799 --> 00:20:38,541
Preston. That's it.
471
00:20:44,417 --> 00:20:45,766
'Hello, Lisbon.'
472
00:20:45,853 --> 00:20:48,421
Are you ever gonna
let me in there again?
473
00:20:48,508 --> 00:20:49,726
'How was lunch?'
474
00:20:49,813 --> 00:20:51,989
Lovely. Haffner
offered me a job.
475
00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:57,778
Really?
476
00:20:57,865 --> 00:21:00,433
- You gonna take it?
- Right now I'm considering it.
477
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,913
Come on. We have to
go talk to the vet.
478
00:21:18,233 --> 00:21:21,105
Wait, this one's for Doug.
479
00:21:21,192 --> 00:21:22,759
Dr. Ellen Preston?
480
00:21:22,846 --> 00:21:24,413
Oh, uh, no, I'm no one.
481
00:21:24,500 --> 00:21:27,286
Dr. Preston's my mom.
I'm Holly Preston.
482
00:21:27,373 --> 00:21:29,244
Holly. Pretty good
with those dogs.
483
00:21:29,331 --> 00:21:31,551
Oh, well, thanks.
I should be.
484
00:21:31,638 --> 00:21:34,510
I'm with them all day.
I run a doggy day care.
485
00:21:34,597 --> 00:21:35,859
Is there something
I can do for you?
486
00:21:35,946 --> 00:21:37,383
We're with the CBI.
487
00:21:37,470 --> 00:21:40,951
We need to ask your
mother some questions.
488
00:21:41,038 --> 00:21:44,085
- Oh.
- Is that a problem?
489
00:21:44,172 --> 00:21:46,435
'She was diagnosed
with Alzheimer's'
490
00:21:46,522 --> 00:21:48,524
'about eight years ago.'
491
00:21:48,611 --> 00:21:50,787
'She still responds
but she's not very good'
492
00:21:50,874 --> 00:21:52,833
'at talking to people anymore.'
493
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,356
'I'm sorry.'
494
00:21:54,443 --> 00:21:55,836
'Oh, don't be.'
495
00:21:55,923 --> 00:21:57,054
She looks peaceful.
496
00:21:57,141 --> 00:21:58,839
She is...mostly.
497
00:21:58,926 --> 00:22:00,275
You've probably heard.
498
00:22:00,362 --> 00:22:02,538
'We found three bodies
on a nearby farm.'
499
00:22:02,625 --> 00:22:04,410
'25 years ago,
the farm was owned'
500
00:22:04,497 --> 00:22:07,848
by a church called Visualize.
Does that ring a bell?
501
00:22:07,935 --> 00:22:10,764
I've heard about them.
They made kind of a splash.
502
00:22:10,851 --> 00:22:13,419
'Hi, little boy.
Who's a good boy?'
503
00:22:13,506 --> 00:22:15,464
Yeah. Oh, he likes that.
You like that?
504
00:22:15,551 --> 00:22:18,075
Is...that what you wanted
to talk to my mom about?
505
00:22:18,162 --> 00:22:19,816
We heard that she was concerned
506
00:22:19,903 --> 00:22:22,079
about the way some of the
animals were being treat.
507
00:22:22,166 --> 00:22:23,777
We just wanted to know
what that was about.
508
00:22:23,864 --> 00:22:27,302
Rumor has it they were
performing satanic rituals.
509
00:22:27,389 --> 00:22:29,130
- What?
- We'd heard.
510
00:22:29,217 --> 00:22:33,221
There may have been some
unnatural acts going on.
511
00:22:33,308 --> 00:22:35,571
Have you been talking
to Tom Crayhew?
512
00:22:35,658 --> 00:22:37,051
Why? Does it sound like him?
513
00:22:37,138 --> 00:22:39,532
Oh, exactly like him.
514
00:22:39,619 --> 00:22:41,229
'I would remember if my mom'
515
00:22:41,316 --> 00:22:42,883
'thought something was
happening.'
516
00:22:42,970 --> 00:22:44,711
There were no rituals.
517
00:22:44,798 --> 00:22:46,669
I think my mom
was just concerned
518
00:22:46,756 --> 00:22:48,715
that the farm was failing.
519
00:22:48,802 --> 00:22:50,151
People take it out
on the animals
520
00:22:50,238 --> 00:22:51,500
once a place goes south.
521
00:22:51,587 --> 00:22:52,893
- Did you ever go up there?
- No.
522
00:22:52,980 --> 00:22:57,071
I was 16, and I was
all about boys then.
523
00:22:57,158 --> 00:22:59,595
I wouldn't go to the farm
with my mom if I could avoid it.
524
00:22:59,682 --> 00:23:01,205
Well, all the academic
achievements
525
00:23:01,292 --> 00:23:04,208
suggest you were focused
on a little more than just boys.
526
00:23:04,295 --> 00:23:06,123
Well, maybe now and then
527
00:23:06,210 --> 00:23:08,822
but that was
a long time ago.
528
00:23:10,301 --> 00:23:12,739
Is that all you
wanted to ask about?
529
00:23:12,826 --> 00:23:15,524
Yes. Yeah.
Thank you for your time.
530
00:23:15,611 --> 00:23:17,352
- Jane. Jane.
- Yes. How good is that, huh?
531
00:23:17,439 --> 00:23:20,529
Is that good?
That's really good.
532
00:23:20,616 --> 00:23:22,226
- Jane?
- That's really good.
533
00:23:28,276 --> 00:23:30,060
- Agent Van Pelt?
- Yes?
534
00:23:30,147 --> 00:23:32,802
Father Peter Dibuono.
You asked to see me?
535
00:23:32,889 --> 00:23:34,369
Obviously, I haven't
been a member
536
00:23:34,456 --> 00:23:36,937
of Visualize for some time.
537
00:23:37,024 --> 00:23:39,592
If I were to be kind
to my younger self
538
00:23:39,679 --> 00:23:41,420
I would say that my
time with them
539
00:23:41,507 --> 00:23:45,119
was an early stage
in a long spiritual journey.
540
00:23:45,206 --> 00:23:46,816
What if you
weren't being kind?
541
00:23:46,903 --> 00:23:49,645
I was a stupid punk
who didn't know any better.
542
00:23:49,732 --> 00:23:52,256
Bret Stiles says a lot
of things that sound good
543
00:23:52,343 --> 00:23:54,171
if you don't think
about 'em too hard.
544
00:23:54,258 --> 00:23:55,956
Some of what he says
makes sense, though.
545
00:23:56,043 --> 00:24:00,917
Yes. Uh, there's a core
of truth in every good lie.
546
00:24:01,004 --> 00:24:03,180
All that talk
about self-actualization
547
00:24:03,267 --> 00:24:05,008
can be very, very seductive.
548
00:24:05,095 --> 00:24:07,054
Oh, it's not just seduction.
549
00:24:07,141 --> 00:24:09,056
What's wrong with wanting
to be the most powerful version
550
00:24:09,143 --> 00:24:10,405
of you, you can be?
551
00:24:10,492 --> 00:24:12,102
If you were a good
person it would just
552
00:24:12,189 --> 00:24:13,539
make you an even better one.
553
00:24:13,626 --> 00:24:16,759
Well, it depends on how
you look at it, I guess.
554
00:24:16,846 --> 00:24:19,632
You wanted to ask me
about the Elliston farm?
555
00:24:19,719 --> 00:24:21,242
You worked there, right?
556
00:24:21,329 --> 00:24:24,201
No, I ran it.
From mid-'86 to late '87.
557
00:24:24,288 --> 00:24:26,508
That was a crazy time.
558
00:24:26,595 --> 00:24:28,292
There was a lot of pressure
from Visualize to make
559
00:24:28,379 --> 00:24:31,034
that place work, we just
didn't have the people
560
00:24:31,121 --> 00:24:32,993
or the expertise.
561
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,561
And that's why they brought
Bradovich in to take over.
562
00:24:35,648 --> 00:24:36,649
- Lester Bradovich?
- Mm-hmm
563
00:24:36,736 --> 00:24:38,825
And Lester,
he was..
564
00:24:38,912 --> 00:24:40,653
...a true believer.
565
00:24:40,740 --> 00:24:41,958
He worked people
insanely hard
566
00:24:42,045 --> 00:24:43,525
18, 20 hours a day.
567
00:24:43,612 --> 00:24:48,312
No one lasted long except
for him, Talbot and Charney.
568
00:24:48,399 --> 00:24:52,229
After I left, um, I heard,
this is just a rumor
569
00:24:52,316 --> 00:24:55,581
that-that Lester had been
giving people drugs
570
00:24:55,668 --> 00:24:57,583
to keep them working
when they were tired.
571
00:24:57,670 --> 00:24:58,932
What kind of drugs?
572
00:24:59,019 --> 00:25:00,237
I don't know.
I don't know.
573
00:25:00,324 --> 00:25:02,544
Speed, I would guess.
574
00:25:02,631 --> 00:25:03,893
But he must have
been desperate
575
00:25:03,980 --> 00:25:06,330
because there were
so many ex-addicts
576
00:25:06,417 --> 00:25:07,680
in the church at that time
577
00:25:07,767 --> 00:25:11,031
that Visualize was
very strict about drugs.
578
00:25:11,118 --> 00:25:13,076
If he couldn't get
the drugs from the church
579
00:25:13,163 --> 00:25:14,643
where would he get 'em?
580
00:25:14,730 --> 00:25:15,731
I have no idea.
581
00:25:17,777 --> 00:25:21,084
Father Dibuono.
Uh, Patrick Jane.
582
00:25:21,171 --> 00:25:22,433
Uh, Agent Van Pelt told
me you used to work
583
00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:23,870
on the Elliston farm.
584
00:25:23,957 --> 00:25:27,134
- That's right.
- May I show you something?
585
00:25:27,221 --> 00:25:29,397
Do you know what that is?
586
00:25:29,484 --> 00:25:33,401
Uh, sure.
Yeah, I saw that.
587
00:25:33,488 --> 00:25:34,707
When?
588
00:25:34,794 --> 00:25:36,360
A few months after
I left the farm
589
00:25:36,447 --> 00:25:39,276
I, uh, I went back
for a visit
590
00:25:39,363 --> 00:25:41,017
and that's when I saw it.
591
00:25:41,104 --> 00:25:43,933
Talbot said that some kid who
worked on the farm he did it.
592
00:25:44,020 --> 00:25:45,892
"Some kid," that's all
he said about it?
593
00:25:45,979 --> 00:25:48,068
Yeah, yeah. Some kid.
594
00:25:48,155 --> 00:25:49,678
How old was Talbot?
595
00:25:49,765 --> 00:25:51,811
Uh, 50-something?
596
00:25:51,898 --> 00:25:58,295
Ah. So anyone under the age
of 30 could be "some kid".
597
00:25:58,382 --> 00:26:00,297
You know, I asked
Talbot what it meant
598
00:26:00,384 --> 00:26:01,603
the smiley face.
599
00:26:01,690 --> 00:26:04,693
He said, "What does
anything mean?"
600
00:26:04,780 --> 00:26:09,959
But he said it with this really
deranged expression on his face.
601
00:26:10,046 --> 00:26:13,223
There was a bad vibe
about that place.
602
00:26:13,310 --> 00:26:14,790
Evil.
603
00:26:16,357 --> 00:26:18,925
I didn't spend more than
half an hour there
604
00:26:19,012 --> 00:26:20,230
and I never went back.
605
00:26:20,317 --> 00:26:22,406
And you've never
seen that image
606
00:26:22,493 --> 00:26:24,191
anywhere else ever since?
607
00:26:24,278 --> 00:26:27,716
No. No. But I've been out
of the country a lot.
608
00:26:27,803 --> 00:26:30,066
Missionary work.
Central America.
609
00:26:32,982 --> 00:26:34,375
Is something
the matter, Mr. Jane?
610
00:26:34,462 --> 00:26:37,421
No. No, not at all.
Appreciate your time.
611
00:26:53,916 --> 00:26:55,222
When the murders occurred
Bradovich was pushing
612
00:26:55,309 --> 00:26:56,832
'the farm workers
as hard as possible.'
613
00:26:56,919 --> 00:26:58,878
They were stealing water
from neighboring farms
614
00:26:58,965 --> 00:27:01,097
and still failing
to make the farm produce.
615
00:27:01,184 --> 00:27:02,403
How does any of that get
the three of them killed?
616
00:27:02,490 --> 00:27:04,057
Well, I checked on Crayhew.
617
00:27:04,144 --> 00:27:05,493
'He spent some time with a
right-wing militia'
618
00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:07,626
in the mid-'80s. The county
sheriff still thinks
619
00:27:07,713 --> 00:27:09,149
he's got a lot more guns
on that farm.
620
00:27:09,236 --> 00:27:10,977
'It wouldn't surprise me.'
621
00:27:11,064 --> 00:27:12,413
What about the forensics team
that was searching the farm?
622
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:13,632
Did they come up
with anything?
623
00:27:13,719 --> 00:27:14,807
Nothing yet. They're
still looking.
624
00:27:14,894 --> 00:27:16,635
Stay on 'em.
625
00:27:16,722 --> 00:27:19,289
I'm interested in the drugs
the good father mentioned.
626
00:27:19,376 --> 00:27:20,900
He said it was just a rumor.
627
00:27:20,987 --> 00:27:23,424
Well, if Bradovich is working
them around the clock
628
00:27:23,511 --> 00:27:25,861
I'm betting they had
a little chemical help.
629
00:27:25,948 --> 00:27:27,210
And if they didn't
get it from Visualize
630
00:27:27,297 --> 00:27:29,343
then where did
they get it from?
631
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:32,607
Who knows? Everyone who
could tell us is dead.
632
00:27:32,694 --> 00:27:34,261
Not everyone.
633
00:27:35,566 --> 00:27:37,394
Hmm. Nope.
634
00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:40,528
Don't remember
any of 'em.
635
00:27:40,615 --> 00:27:43,966
Of course, I was just
17 at the time.
636
00:27:44,053 --> 00:27:46,795
Not likely to run
into boys like these.
637
00:27:46,882 --> 00:27:50,451
And, uh, as far
as drug deals in 1988
638
00:27:50,538 --> 00:27:52,627
I couldn't tell you
anything about that.
639
00:27:52,714 --> 00:27:56,065
Wasn't bustin' drug
dealers quite yet.
640
00:27:56,152 --> 00:27:57,676
Would your office
have any record
641
00:27:57,763 --> 00:27:59,678
of drug arrests back then?
642
00:27:59,765 --> 00:28:02,115
A lot of the old files
have been archived.
643
00:28:02,202 --> 00:28:05,031
They're in some
warehouse in Fresno.
644
00:28:05,118 --> 00:28:06,772
I can send somebody
to go look but it's gonna
645
00:28:06,859 --> 00:28:08,687
it's gonna take a while.
646
00:28:08,774 --> 00:28:12,299
Could do that. Or you could just
tell us what drugs you sold 'em.
647
00:28:12,386 --> 00:28:13,735
Excuse me?
648
00:28:13,822 --> 00:28:15,302
You were dealing drugs
back then, weren't you?
649
00:28:15,389 --> 00:28:16,695
And they were clients.
650
00:28:16,782 --> 00:28:19,349
Whatever gives you the
idea that I dealt drugs?
651
00:28:19,436 --> 00:28:22,439
You're self-indulgent.
You're corrupt.
652
00:28:22,526 --> 00:28:24,093
You pretended not
to know Bradovich
653
00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:26,139
when clearly,
you recognize him.
654
00:28:26,226 --> 00:28:27,531
You knew we were gonna
talk about drugs.
655
00:28:27,618 --> 00:28:29,969
So why lie about
not selling 'em?
656
00:28:30,056 --> 00:28:31,884
Look, I'm-I'm not sitting
still for this, okay?
657
00:28:31,971 --> 00:28:34,451
You withhold information from us
during this investigation
658
00:28:34,538 --> 00:28:36,323
it's considered
obstruction of justice.
659
00:28:36,410 --> 00:28:38,064
They'll take your
badge for that.
660
00:28:38,151 --> 00:28:41,154
You might have to start
paying for that Chili Verde.
661
00:28:48,596 --> 00:28:52,165
I might have dealt
a little in high school.
662
00:28:52,252 --> 00:28:55,298
Lot of people did, okay?
It wasn't no big deal.
663
00:28:55,385 --> 00:28:57,823
And by the way, I'm pretty sure
the statute of limitations
664
00:28:57,910 --> 00:28:59,738
has expired on that.
665
00:28:59,825 --> 00:29:03,393
Did you sell drugs
to Bradovich?
666
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,917
This is between us, right?
667
00:29:05,004 --> 00:29:06,353
Law officer
to law officer?
668
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,615
Chief.
669
00:29:10,444 --> 00:29:13,969
He was looking for speed
to keep his people working.
670
00:29:14,056 --> 00:29:16,667
I sold him some.
671
00:29:16,755 --> 00:29:18,713
But right away, he
came back for more.
672
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,150
A lot more.
673
00:29:21,237 --> 00:29:22,978
I didn't have the kind
of quantity he wanted
674
00:29:23,065 --> 00:29:27,983
so I put him in touch with some
serious guys I knew in Stockton.
675
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:29,724
'Scary dudes.'
676
00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:31,552
Hell, maybe they killed 'em.
677
00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:35,512
I'm gonna need those names.
678
00:29:43,607 --> 00:29:46,001
Two of the drug dealers
Anaya gave us are dead.
679
00:29:46,088 --> 00:29:47,916
The other one's on
death row in Texas.
680
00:29:48,003 --> 00:29:49,613
'I've got a call in to the
Department of Corrections'
681
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:50,963
'to see if I can interview him.'
682
00:29:51,050 --> 00:29:52,878
Oh, remember
the missing bullet
683
00:29:52,965 --> 00:29:55,010
from the gun we found
near the bodies?
684
00:29:55,097 --> 00:29:56,620
Techs finally found it.
685
00:29:56,707 --> 00:29:58,884
It was buried in the dirt
in front of the barn.
686
00:29:58,971 --> 00:30:00,276
Like somebody had
shot into the ground.
687
00:30:00,363 --> 00:30:01,669
Where outside the barn?
688
00:30:01,756 --> 00:30:03,802
Right in front
of the big painted face.
689
00:30:03,889 --> 00:30:06,021
- Hmm.
- So what do you think?
690
00:30:06,108 --> 00:30:07,806
Should I go to Texas
and talk to this guy?
691
00:30:07,893 --> 00:30:10,417
By all means, take a trek
to the Lone Star state.
692
00:30:10,504 --> 00:30:12,811
But I think I can
solve this case quicker.
693
00:30:12,898 --> 00:30:14,377
How?
694
00:30:14,464 --> 00:30:16,771
Get everyone we've
interviewed to Ella's Diner
695
00:30:16,858 --> 00:30:18,251
first thing tomorrow morning.
696
00:30:18,338 --> 00:30:21,515
- Well, why the diner?
- For the coffee, of course.
697
00:30:27,869 --> 00:30:29,088
Hey, Ray.
698
00:30:29,175 --> 00:30:31,438
Hey. I was, uh,
just checking in.
699
00:30:31,525 --> 00:30:33,266
Seeing if you had a chance
to think about the offer.
700
00:30:33,353 --> 00:30:36,138
I think you already
know my answer.
701
00:30:36,225 --> 00:30:37,748
You're missing out
on something big.
702
00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:39,968
- I'm sure I am.
- How's the case?
703
00:30:40,055 --> 00:30:42,275
- You getting anywhere?
- We're making progress.
704
00:30:42,362 --> 00:30:43,754
Did you get anything from
the stuff Cooper sent down?
705
00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:45,669
No, not much.
706
00:30:49,543 --> 00:30:53,895
Ray, Jason Cooper's name
isn't on that board.
707
00:30:53,982 --> 00:30:56,202
So?
708
00:30:56,289 --> 00:30:59,509
How did you know that
he sent us material?
709
00:30:59,596 --> 00:31:01,250
Someone on your team
must have told me.
710
00:31:01,337 --> 00:31:03,383
No one else knew
except myself and Jane.
711
00:31:06,908 --> 00:31:08,562
Did somebody from
the church tell you?
712
00:31:11,173 --> 00:31:12,653
Ray?
713
00:31:12,740 --> 00:31:14,394
Are you a member
of Visualize?
714
00:31:16,613 --> 00:31:20,487
As a matter of fact, I am.
I don't talk about it much.
715
00:31:20,574 --> 00:31:23,185
People tend to take
it the wrong way.
716
00:31:23,272 --> 00:31:25,274
The way that you're taking
it right now, I think.
717
00:31:25,361 --> 00:31:27,189
- Oh, that's not true.
- Really?
718
00:31:27,276 --> 00:31:29,017
No.
719
00:31:30,192 --> 00:31:31,933
Look, I was a screwed-up kid.
720
00:31:32,020 --> 00:31:35,458
I was headed down a bad path
and some people from Visualize
721
00:31:35,545 --> 00:31:40,289
took an interest and helped
straighten me out.
722
00:31:40,376 --> 00:31:42,988
I-I-I don't think
that Bret Stiles is God.
723
00:31:43,075 --> 00:31:46,382
You know, he just happens to say
some things that I believe.
724
00:31:46,469 --> 00:31:48,471
The money to fund
your agency
725
00:31:48,558 --> 00:31:50,169
is that coming
from Visualize?
726
00:31:50,256 --> 00:31:51,648
Some, not all.
727
00:31:53,346 --> 00:31:55,087
Teresa, stop looking at me
728
00:31:55,174 --> 00:31:56,697
like I just turned into a robot.
729
00:31:56,784 --> 00:31:58,133
It's just me.
730
00:33:18,474 --> 00:33:19,649
Just in time, Lisbon.
731
00:33:19,736 --> 00:33:21,695
Morning, Jane. Nice party.
732
00:33:21,782 --> 00:33:23,175
Can I get some of that coffee?
733
00:33:23,262 --> 00:33:24,611
Nope.
734
00:33:24,698 --> 00:33:26,308
This is only for the suspects.
735
00:33:26,395 --> 00:33:27,657
- What?
- For who?
736
00:33:27,744 --> 00:33:29,703
- What did you say?
- That's right.
737
00:33:29,790 --> 00:33:33,272
You're all here because one
of you killed Lester Bradovich
738
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:36,797
Martin Talbot,
and Allen Charney.
739
00:33:36,884 --> 00:33:39,147
Why would I kill three
members of my own church?
740
00:33:39,234 --> 00:33:40,931
Well, because the
farm was failing
741
00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:42,455
and Bret Stiles didn't
want that to happen.
742
00:33:42,542 --> 00:33:44,326
'But maybe it wasn't you.'
743
00:33:44,413 --> 00:33:46,546
Mr. Bradovich here
was angry with his brother
744
00:33:46,633 --> 00:33:48,548
for abandoning his family.
745
00:33:48,635 --> 00:33:51,333
Even if I was, why would
I kill the other two guys?
746
00:33:51,420 --> 00:33:53,857
Who knows how a
homicidal maniac thinks?
747
00:33:53,944 --> 00:33:55,555
Homicidal maniac?
748
00:33:55,642 --> 00:33:58,123
I was 16, Mr. Jane.
749
00:33:58,210 --> 00:33:59,733
Yes, but your mother
was an adult
750
00:33:59,820 --> 00:34:01,169
and she was angry
with the farmers
751
00:34:01,256 --> 00:34:02,692
over how they were
treating the animals.
752
00:34:02,779 --> 00:34:06,740
Are you seriously saying
my mother killed these people?
753
00:34:06,827 --> 00:34:08,698
You're right. Maybe
it was the priest.
754
00:34:08,785 --> 00:34:11,658
He was angry because he was
displaced as the farm's leader.
755
00:34:11,745 --> 00:34:12,920
No, I wasn't.
756
00:34:13,007 --> 00:34:14,574
Then there's the angry farmer
757
00:34:14,661 --> 00:34:16,315
and the police chief.
758
00:34:16,402 --> 00:34:19,318
Whoever did this, it was
definitely one of you
759
00:34:19,405 --> 00:34:21,363
'and in a moment, we're
gonna find out which one.'
760
00:34:21,450 --> 00:34:23,452
'But first..'
761
00:34:23,539 --> 00:34:25,541
...more coffee, anyone?
762
00:34:28,588 --> 00:34:31,852
- No. No. No. No. No.
- 'Mom, mom.'
763
00:34:31,939 --> 00:34:32,896
- 'No, no, no.'
- 'Mom.'
764
00:34:32,983 --> 00:34:34,420
Mom, take it easy.
765
00:34:34,507 --> 00:34:36,335
What's her problem?
Why's she so upset?
766
00:34:36,422 --> 00:34:38,902
She recognizes the symbol.
There was one at the farm.
767
00:34:38,989 --> 00:34:41,079
- You mean the face on the barn?
- Right.
768
00:34:41,166 --> 00:34:43,037
And she knows what
happened underneath it.
769
00:34:43,124 --> 00:34:44,169
Are you saying
she's the killer?
770
00:34:44,256 --> 00:34:45,474
We're gonna have to ask
your mother
771
00:34:45,561 --> 00:34:46,475
'some questions.'
772
00:34:46,562 --> 00:34:47,694
No. You can't.
773
00:34:47,781 --> 00:34:48,782
Ms. Preston,
you got no choice.
774
00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:50,000
'She won't understand.'
775
00:34:50,088 --> 00:34:51,306
Well, we're gonna
have to try.
776
00:34:51,393 --> 00:34:52,307
Come on. We'll
treat her right.
777
00:34:52,394 --> 00:34:54,092
No. It's not her.
778
00:34:54,179 --> 00:34:56,050
It's me.
779
00:34:58,531 --> 00:35:00,010
It's me.
780
00:35:01,795 --> 00:35:04,493
You thought it was me
when we met, didn't you?
781
00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:06,756
I thought that was
a possibility.
782
00:35:06,843 --> 00:35:08,106
Young woman, high-achieving
783
00:35:08,193 --> 00:35:10,760
ends up running
a doggy day care.
784
00:35:10,847 --> 00:35:14,112
Suggested something went
wrong along the way.
785
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:16,026
Yeah.
786
00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:17,376
That sounds about right.
787
00:35:22,032 --> 00:35:27,081
My mother was concerned
about the Visualize farm.
788
00:35:27,168 --> 00:35:32,434
I was riding along... when
she made a visit in the area.
789
00:35:32,521 --> 00:35:35,220
And she said she
wanted to check on them.
790
00:35:35,307 --> 00:35:37,047
to see what was going on.
791
00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:40,964
It had rained that day..
792
00:35:41,051 --> 00:35:43,315
So the ground was wet.
793
00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:49,930
You stay here.
I'll be just a minute.
794
00:35:55,588 --> 00:35:58,547
Next thing I knew,
I heard someone shouting.
795
00:35:58,634 --> 00:36:00,375
Don't tell me what to do!
There are laws.
796
00:36:00,462 --> 00:36:01,594
I don't care about
any of your laws!
797
00:36:01,681 --> 00:36:03,030
Laws that say this animal
798
00:36:03,117 --> 00:36:04,684
has to be fed
and taken care of!
799
00:36:04,771 --> 00:36:07,600
And if you won't take care
of it, I will report you!
800
00:36:07,687 --> 00:36:10,429
I...I should..
801
00:36:10,516 --> 00:36:11,821
You want me to take
care of it? Fine!
802
00:36:11,908 --> 00:36:12,953
I'll take care of it!
803
00:36:16,826 --> 00:36:20,743
He looked so crazy.
Just out of his mind.
804
00:36:20,830 --> 00:36:22,267
Well, he was amped up on speed.
805
00:36:22,354 --> 00:36:24,007
He'd been sleep-deprived
for weeks.
806
00:36:24,094 --> 00:36:27,054
He wasout of his mind.
807
00:36:27,141 --> 00:36:28,969
What happened next?
808
00:36:29,056 --> 00:36:30,753
Oh, you son of a bitch!
809
00:36:33,843 --> 00:36:37,891
- 'Mom!'
- 'No!'
810
00:36:39,414 --> 00:36:42,461
I thought he was gonna
kill my mother.
811
00:36:42,548 --> 00:36:44,724
I had to do something.
812
00:36:44,811 --> 00:36:47,117
Help! Leave her.
813
00:36:47,683 --> 00:36:49,424
Hey!
814
00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:57,258
I-I don't understand.
815
00:36:57,345 --> 00:37:00,130
Where were Charney and Talbot?
How did they get shot?
816
00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:02,959
I don't know.
817
00:37:04,222 --> 00:37:05,658
What?
818
00:37:05,745 --> 00:37:10,663
I-I don't know anything
about them, I swear. I..
819
00:37:10,750 --> 00:37:12,534
It wasn't me.
820
00:37:12,621 --> 00:37:16,016
What wasn't you?
821
00:37:16,103 --> 00:37:18,584
Holly.
822
00:37:18,671 --> 00:37:21,761
What happened when
you hid the body?
823
00:37:24,111 --> 00:37:27,114
My mother was sure
I could go to jail.
824
00:37:27,201 --> 00:37:29,116
And she couldn't
let that happen.
825
00:37:29,203 --> 00:37:31,988
She wouldn't
let that happen.
826
00:37:32,075 --> 00:37:36,950
She knew there was
a basement in the barn.
827
00:37:37,037 --> 00:37:39,257
So we went down there
828
00:37:39,344 --> 00:37:41,694
and that's when we
found the other two.
829
00:37:45,132 --> 00:37:49,571
Talbot and Charney's bodies
were already there?
830
00:37:49,658 --> 00:37:51,051
I-I guess it was them.
831
00:37:51,138 --> 00:37:53,445
Did you see anything else?
Anything at all?
832
00:37:53,532 --> 00:37:54,750
No.
833
00:37:54,837 --> 00:37:56,491
After we dumped the body
834
00:37:56,578 --> 00:37:58,667
we got out of there
as fast as we could.
835
00:38:00,147 --> 00:38:03,281
I had a feeling..
836
00:38:03,368 --> 00:38:06,458
...someone was there with us.
837
00:38:11,071 --> 00:38:14,030
Someone was watching us.
838
00:38:21,734 --> 00:38:25,041
- Hey. You got a second?
- Sure.
839
00:38:25,128 --> 00:38:28,741
Word is Holly Preston's only
gonna face manslaughter charges
840
00:38:28,828 --> 00:38:30,612
for the homicides.
That true?
841
00:38:30,699 --> 00:38:32,745
We suggested it
to the DDA and he agreed.
842
00:38:32,832 --> 00:38:34,181
Really.
843
00:38:34,268 --> 00:38:36,139
She claims she did it
in self-defense
844
00:38:36,226 --> 00:38:37,750
and we believed her.
She'll serve time.
845
00:38:37,837 --> 00:38:39,491
Three guys got killed.
846
00:38:39,578 --> 00:38:41,493
She only killed one of them,
and it was in self-defense.
847
00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:43,103
That's what she says.
848
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:45,061
Are you in the business
of taking killers at their word?
849
00:38:45,148 --> 00:38:47,368
I believe her.
850
00:38:47,455 --> 00:38:50,458
Did someone from Visualize
ask you to talk to me?
851
00:38:50,545 --> 00:38:52,242
Because you've never
come to my office
852
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:54,288
and questioned
my arrests before.
853
00:38:54,375 --> 00:38:56,377
Yeah, I might have
gotten some calls.
854
00:38:56,464 --> 00:38:57,596
Might've heard some concern
855
00:38:57,683 --> 00:38:59,293
that you pushed
for lighter sentences
856
00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:01,339
because the victims
were church
857
00:39:01,426 --> 00:39:03,210
and maybe you
don't like the church.
858
00:39:03,297 --> 00:39:04,777
Absolutely not.
859
00:39:04,864 --> 00:39:06,648
Would you be willing
to push for a murder charge
860
00:39:06,735 --> 00:39:08,258
have another talk
with the DDA?
861
00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,173
Absolutely not.
862
00:39:11,871 --> 00:39:14,743
Okay. Had to try.
863
00:39:14,830 --> 00:39:16,528
Thank you
for hearing me out.
864
00:39:18,747 --> 00:39:20,227
Hey, I-I heard
about Jane's trick.
865
00:39:20,314 --> 00:39:22,316
How did he make that symbol
appear on the table?
866
00:39:22,403 --> 00:39:24,579
Lemon juice.
Kid's invisible ink.
867
00:39:24,666 --> 00:39:26,929
The heat from the coffee
pot made it appear.
868
00:39:27,016 --> 00:39:29,105
Lemon juice. Of course.
869
00:39:30,803 --> 00:39:33,066
Hey, Ray.
870
00:39:33,153 --> 00:39:35,895
You said that you joined
Visualize as a teenager.
871
00:39:35,982 --> 00:39:37,984
So 1988, you would have been 21?
872
00:39:38,071 --> 00:39:39,681
Yeah, about that.
873
00:39:39,768 --> 00:39:42,771
Did they ever send you to work
at the Elliston farm?
874
00:39:42,858 --> 00:39:44,207
Were you there?
875
00:39:45,731 --> 00:39:48,821
Lisbon, we're still
friends, right?
876
00:39:48,908 --> 00:39:51,040
Why would you ask me that?
877
00:40:04,663 --> 00:40:05,664
Lisbon.
878
00:40:05,751 --> 00:40:08,188
- Hi, Jane.
- What's up?
879
00:40:08,275 --> 00:40:09,711
I had something
I wanted to tell you
880
00:40:09,798 --> 00:40:11,844
but I've had enough of this.
Let me in, or else.
881
00:40:11,931 --> 00:40:13,323
- Or else what?
- I don't know.
882
00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:14,847
But you're not gonna like it.
883
00:40:14,934 --> 00:40:16,544
Hmm.
884
00:40:16,631 --> 00:40:18,416
Are we partners or what?
885
00:40:20,330 --> 00:40:22,637
Come in, partner.
886
00:40:32,865 --> 00:40:34,649
Wow.
887
00:40:34,736 --> 00:40:36,782
'What did you want
to tell me?'
888
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,788
Visualize absolutely refuses
889
00:40:42,875 --> 00:40:45,268
to let us look at a
membership list from 1988
890
00:40:45,355 --> 00:40:47,619
or any other year
before or after.
891
00:40:47,706 --> 00:40:50,186
And since they're a recognized
religious organization
892
00:40:50,273 --> 00:40:52,798
no judge will give us a warrant.
893
00:40:52,885 --> 00:40:55,235
If Red John was a member
of Visualize in 1988
894
00:40:55,322 --> 00:40:56,236
we'll never know.
895
00:40:56,323 --> 00:40:57,977
Figures.
896
00:40:58,064 --> 00:40:59,674
Never mind.
897
00:40:59,761 --> 00:41:03,591
We know that Red John
was at Elliston farm in 1988.
898
00:41:03,678 --> 00:41:06,115
That is a huge leap
forward, Lisbon. Huge.
899
00:41:06,202 --> 00:41:07,160
How so?
900
00:41:09,771 --> 00:41:13,427
I recalled all the names
of the 2,164 people
901
00:41:13,514 --> 00:41:15,734
that I met and shook hands
902
00:41:15,821 --> 00:41:18,911
with since Red John
murdered my family.
903
00:41:18,998 --> 00:41:21,522
I might have missed
one or two, but not many.
904
00:41:21,609 --> 00:41:25,918
807 of those names
were women.
905
00:41:26,005 --> 00:41:27,833
And Red John's
probably not a woman.
906
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,750
Another 949 were men that
I had brief encounters
907
00:41:31,837 --> 00:41:34,840
with that I never saw
or heard from again.
908
00:41:34,927 --> 00:41:38,539
That leaves 408 names.
909
00:41:38,626 --> 00:41:43,979
And Elliston farm will
exclude a whole bunch more.
910
00:41:44,066 --> 00:41:45,851
I'm getting close, Lisbon.
911
00:41:45,938 --> 00:41:48,636
- I'm getting very close.
- Tell me some of the names.
912
00:41:48,723 --> 00:41:51,030
There's gotta be some that are
at the top of the list.
913
00:41:51,117 --> 00:41:52,771
Sure.
914
00:41:52,858 --> 00:41:54,686
There's some
interesting names.
915
00:41:54,773 --> 00:41:56,514
Well, tell me.
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