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- Sir, please get back into your car.
- Here's how it's gonna go down, sweetchicks.
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You're gonna let me go.
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If you're lucky,
I might even honk your... boobies!
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- Whoa! You're under arrest
- Hey! Hey!
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- for assaulting a police officer.
- You're arresting me?
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You must be new here,
on the rag, or both.
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I'm movie star Vance Waggoner,
and I hate Jews!
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This is the Deep Dive!
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My guest today recently said some things,
or did some things?
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I only read the headline.
Vance, what happened?
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First of all, I don't hate Jews.
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If I did, would I be able to sit
in the same room
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as my good friend Mark Feuerstein, a Jew?
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You know, when I first heard
Vance's comments, they stung,
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but when he called to offer his apology
and a supporting role in his next movie,
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I thought, "Does not the Torah
teach us to forgive?"
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As it is written, "schmear, don't smear."
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Hey! Good to see you.
Thanks for coming, everyone!
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Hey! Hey, Vance, did you get practice
swinging that baseball bat
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from the time you hit that prostitute,
with a baseball bat?
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What? Who told you that?
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I'm Tom Jumbo-Grumbo,
and this is Gotcha!
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Vance Waggoner,
you hit a woman with a baseball bat.
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What's your side of the story?
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Okay, look,
when that altercation occurred,
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I was an immature child... of 38.
I'm not that guy anymore.
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Vance Waggoner respects women.
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We have a tape of a voicemail you left
for your 14-year-old daughter.
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- Oh, God.
- Let's give it a listen, shall we?
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I'll murder you.
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I'm going to murder my daughter.
I don't respect women.
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You're out there, hanging out
with your dirty Swedish friends.
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That's right, I hate Swedes now.
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I bet you didn't see that coming,
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you disgusting slut,
who is my daughter!
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As we say here on Gotcha,
that's a gotcha.
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Why did I go on a show called Gotcha?
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I stand here with my wife beside me,
and my daughter,
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and my good friend Stellan Skarsgård.
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I am retiring from public life.
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This is the last you'll see
of Vance Waggoner.
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Who are we gonna get
to play Philbert's partner?
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We need a bad boy.
Someone dangerous,
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someone you see coming
and think, "This guy is trouble."
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You know who would be perfect?
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5x04 - BoJack the Feminist
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- Thank you so much for meeting me.
- Of course.
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I know how busy you are.
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The Apology Tour can be a hassle,
but you've been handling it perfectly.
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What do you have lined up next?
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Well, I'm getting the lifetime achievement
at the We Forgive You Awards.
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You're getting a Forgivie?
Damn, your publicist is good.
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I don't care about awards.
I just want to work, damn it.
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You just have to remind them
how good you are.
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Maybe by taking a meaty role on my gritty,
prestige television show Philbert.
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Once word gets out
that it's okay to hire you again,
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all the other offers will come rolling in.
Producers are like lemmings.
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- Hey, I resent that!
- Me, too!
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- I also resent that. To the cliff!
- Yeah, let's go.
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I have a great deal of love and respect
for the lemming community!
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Okay, I'm in.
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Diane, can you believe this?
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Vance Waggoner is getting
a We Forgive You Award!
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Ugh! This town is full of hypocrites.
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They act all shocked when one of their
favorite stars turns out to be a dirtbag,
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but they can't wait to give a comeback
to all the dirtbags we already know about.
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Now, that is the kind of story
I would share without reading,
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which, for our purposes,
is even better than people reading.
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Go to the awards show,
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take down that skeevy so-and so,
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and then during commercial breaks,
get in some Hollywoo hobnobbing.
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- Oh, I'd rather not.
- Diane, you have to hobnob.
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Have you not been hobnobbing?
Hob that nob, girl!
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We know how this ends.
Our core readership eats it up,
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a bunch of dude-bros
call me a "dumb slunt,"
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and Vance's career chugs, right along.
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So, stellar! And while you're there,
you can ask your friend BoJack,
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why Vance is gonna co-star
on his new TV show.
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He's what? Oop! Aaaah!
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Greetings, from the red carpet!
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Filling in for a Mario Lopez-type,
'tis I, Mr. Peanutbutter!
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And lookie here!
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Super-producer and also my manager,
Princess Carolyn!
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Who are you wearing
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and why haven't you called,
about the Dog Day Afternoon reboot?
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- Uh...
- It's cool. We can talk.
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- They cut around stuff they don't need.
- Oh, okay.
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No one understands how to make a woman
feel beautiful like Louis Kitton.
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Listen, kid. Dog Day Afternoon
isn't gonna happen for you.
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- People don't see you as the tough guy.
- That's not fair.
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Who are you excited to see tonight?
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So many amazing stars
are being forgiven tonight.
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Megyn Kelly, Mark Wahlberg...
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Look, every actor has a range,
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and maybe a gritty drama
about a tough-guy bank robber
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is too much of a stretch for you.
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So, I'm not tough enough, huh?
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I'll show them how tough I can be.
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We'll be back with more of the Red Carpet
Pre-Show Fashion-Stravaganza,
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so don't touch that remote...
or else.
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There is no one this town loves
forgiving more than Vance Waggoner.
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I just don't get why you're doing this.
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- We need a big star, Diane.
- No, Diane's right.
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- I'm the big star.
- That's not my point.
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You can't have two stars.
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All the greatest detective shows
are focused around a central,
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usually titular character.
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Kojak, Monk, Nickis.
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- Who's Nickis?
- You know, Nickis.
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Sometimes, he goes to Los Angeles,
to New Orleans...
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Are you...? Do you mean NCIS?
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No.
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Princess Carolyn, if you hire this guy,
what kind of message does that send?
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Diane, we both know
the industry is screwed up.
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I'm not talking to the industry.
I'm talking to you.
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- Take some responsibility.
- Excuse me?
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Hey! Cheese plate!
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...Vance Waggoner!
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Ugh!
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Horseman forcefully forgoes applause
for Vance at Forgivies!
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Is a feud forming on the Philbert front?
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That's the buzz around town,
and the question on everybody's mind is,
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"Why the strong face?"
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He made the face in protest because
of what Vance said about native Alaskans.
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BoJack's clearly upset
about the time Vance Waggoner
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said the Madrid train bombings
were "a real mixed bag."
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Remember when Vance locked
that shopgirl in a hotel room
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and said, "I've got pizzazz"
while masturbating into a champagne flute?
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Because BoJack remembers.
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God damn it! The whole point of the award
was to put the past behind me.
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But now,
because of this idiot's dumb face,
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my past is all anyone's talking about!
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Everyone else was clapping.
Why couldn't you clap?
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Hey, man, awards show
should've had better cheese.
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- My publicist is furious, by the way.
- Ooh, spooky publicist!
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Hope she doesn't papercut me
with her mad press release.
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We're gonna handle this.
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BoJack will go on TV and explain
this unfortunate faux pas du fromage.
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- Won't you, BoJack?
- Ugh. Fine.
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Once again, hero BoJack will clean up
everyone else's mess.
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- Hello, Todd.
- Ooh!
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Did you notice how I just walked in
without knocking? Pretty tough, huh?
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Not at all!
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To me, it read as amiable and familiar,
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like our friendship has an assumed
"open door" policy.
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God damn it!
Owie!
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Apparently, Hollywoo producers
don't think I'm tough enough
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to play the bad boy parts.
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- Oh, no!
- Todd, you're the toughest guy I know.
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- Will you teach me how to be tough?
- I thought you'd never ask.
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Because I had no idea
this was happening to you.
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BoJack, clear the air.
Why'd you give Vance the face?
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Well, there was this cheese...
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And you're lactose intolerant,
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which reminded you
that Vance lacks tolerance?
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No, it...
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The cheese stands alone,
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but no woman should stand alone,
when standing up to sexual harassment?
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- Squawk!
- No, it wasn't any of those things!
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So, you're saying it wasn't any one thing,
more of an accumulation?
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- It...
- BoJack, it is really incredible,
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your taking a stand against your co-star.
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- No, I'm not taking any stand...
- I mean, the guy choked his wife,
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and most of Hollywoo is, like,
"No biggie. Good for him!"
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- Squawk!
- Okay, well, obviously it's not good
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he choked his wife.
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Wow!
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No, no, no! I wasn't trying to make
some bold statement or anything.
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It's just that...
choking your wife is bad.
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Really?
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Okay.
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Can I just tell you how amazing it is
to hear a man say that?
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Well, Paloma,
someone needed to take a stand.
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Call me crazy. I mean,
this is just old BoJack talking,
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but how about we don't choke any women?
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So true, right? Don't choke women!
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Don't choke women!
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BoJack is right.
Hollywoo shouldn't legitimize abusers,
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by allowing them to star
in movies and TV shows,
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that play off their problematic personas!
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Hollywoo shouldn't legitimize abusers
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by allowing them to star
in movies and TV shows
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that play off
their problematic personas!
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- All right!
- Squawk!
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And speaking
of battering women,
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right after the break, we'll show you
how to make the perfect blueberry pancake.
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- With proud feminist, BoJack Horseman.
- Stick around!
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And don't choke women!
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How is it you consistently do the opposite
of the thing I need you to do?
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I don't know, Princess Carolyn.
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Is it possible, this whole time,
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I've been an amazing feminist hero,
and nobody knew it?
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- BoJack!
- Feels pretty right.
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Yeah, I'm a male feminist.
You're welcome, society.
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- I gotta call Vance.
- Okay.
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I'm just gonna stay here, being woke.
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Vance! Listen,
BoJack's been very dehydrated.
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No, no, no. You can't use the old
"dehydration made him stupid" trick on me.
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Okay?
I'm Mr. Dehydration-Made-Me-Stupid.
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BoJack really wants to work with you.
He just got caught up...
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Doesn't matter.
I'm not doing the show.
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- What?
- You were right.
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All it took was one offer.
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Once word got out I was doing Philbert,
all the other offers started pouring in.
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You signed a contract!
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Oh, please. I sexted a 12-year-old
and still got a Humanitas Prize.
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You think I can't get out of a contract,
with a time website?
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By the way, still very sorry
about sexting that 12-year-old.
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Oh-hh!
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Hey, Princess Carolyn,
you ever notice how, as a woman,
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you only make ten cents
for every dollar your clients make?
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- Really makes you think, huh?
- BoJack, I was wrong, you were right.
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Let's take that asshole down.
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So, now, you wanna take him down
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Now, that he's not doing
your TV show, anymore?
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Diane, don't be cynical.
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- I'm cynical?
- What do you want me to say?
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I got blinded by my desire
to see myself succeed,
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which, since I'm a woman,
is actually very feminist.
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But now that Vance can't help me succeed,
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I realize the more feminist thing to do
is to make sure he doesn't succeed either.
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- I'm cynical?
- I'm offering an olive branch, here.
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Look, this town loves assholes like Vance.
There's nothing we can do.
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This town is as wishy-washy
as a virgin on prom night.
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All they need to listen to women
is the right voice... a man's voice.
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Oh!
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- Is that why I'm here?
- Yep. I brought you two together
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because between your feminist brain
and your stupid manly face,
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you can actually say things
that people will listen to.
231
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That's a good point.
People do listen to me all the time.
232
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One time I tweeted "RIP David Bowie,"
and now everyone still thinks he's dead.
233
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- David Bowie is dead.
- Wait, for real? Oh, man.
234
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So, through BoJack, I can say
whatever I want, to a huge audience,
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without being called "shrill,"
or "naggy," or "classic Diane."
236
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Yeah. Everyone loves a male feminist.
237
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It turns out, the problem
with feminism, all along,
238
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is it just wasn't men doing it.
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We're much less shrill.
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Yeah, this is truly a great day
for women everywhere.
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Okay, how do I make people think
I'm a tough bad boy,
242
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who doesn't give a care
about society's precious rules?
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Every time Vance Waggoner
breaks the rules,
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- it gets caught on camera.
- That's it!
245
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We just need some video evidence
of me being tough!
246
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Here, record this.
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Ooooh!
248
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- Hey, got one for me, toughie?
- Sorry, bud.
249
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Not yet, you're not.
250
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But you can bet your candy ass
you're gonna be.
251
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- Ooh!
- What the...?
252
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What do you say to that?
253
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- Thank you. So much.
- Huh?
254
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Two weeks ago, we buried my father.
Lung cancer.
255
00:13:05,854 --> 00:13:08,231
My baby girl made me promise
I'd quit smoking,
256
00:13:08,314 --> 00:13:11,943
but I've been sneaking
these suicide sticks this entire time.
257
00:13:12,026 --> 00:13:14,445
No more. That was my last cigarette.
258
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Thank you, you sweet, sweet soul.
259
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Mm-wah!
260
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You are truly a kind
and approachable character.
261
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And tough?
262
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Tough not to love, you big galoot!
263
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Oh, banana bread!
264
00:13:31,713 --> 00:13:34,883
Okay, just...
265
00:13:34,966 --> 00:13:38,970
Okay, so, pop culture
inherently normalizes things,
266
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and that power works both ways.
267
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It can normalize things for good,
268
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like how dancing Ellen makes
middle America less afraid of gay people.
269
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But it can also normalize things
for bad,
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like what Jack Bauer did for torture,
or what Jimmy Fallon did for lip-syncing.
271
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So, when we give a platform
to known abusers like Vance Waggoner,
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that's an example of...?
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Normalizing things for...?
274
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- Good or bad?
- I'm sorry.
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I know you're trying really hard
not to be boring,
276
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and it's kind of not boring,
277
00:14:10,668 --> 00:14:13,338
but it still mostly feels
like I'm being lectured at.
278
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- Okay, well...
- Hold on.
279
00:14:14,631 --> 00:14:17,842
Let me imagine that I'm saying it.
You know what, that's a little better.
280
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Well, the bar for men is depressingly low.
281
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Just sprinkle in a few words like
"intersectionality" or "micro-aggressions"
282
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and Vice News will name you
Feminist of the Year.
283
00:14:26,726 --> 00:14:28,853
Oh, should I wear a T-shirt
that says "Feminism is Bae"?
284
00:14:28,937 --> 00:14:30,355
Girls love shit like that, right?
285
00:14:30,438 --> 00:14:32,523
Sounds great, BoJack.
286
00:14:38,363 --> 00:14:41,241
- Hello, Diane.
- How did you get in my car?
287
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- You left it unlocked.
- It's a Prius. It locks automatically.
288
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Priuses unlock automatically.
289
00:14:46,329 --> 00:14:48,456
You still need to lock it
when you get out.
290
00:14:48,539 --> 00:14:50,875
- Really?
- I know you and your little Scooby gang
291
00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:54,712
are plotting something against my client,
and I want you to stop.
292
00:14:54,796 --> 00:14:58,341
Ugh! Of course that dirtbag
would hire Ana Spanakopita.
293
00:14:58,424 --> 00:15:02,220
Vance has a troubled past.
All he's asking for is a fresh start.
294
00:15:02,303 --> 00:15:06,015
- No. Why does he get that over and over?
- He's reformed.
295
00:15:06,099 --> 00:15:07,475
What else would you have him do?
296
00:15:07,558 --> 00:15:10,603
Let's say, you can make him do
anything you want to make things right.
297
00:15:10,853 --> 00:15:14,482
What would you make
Vance Waggoner do, now?
298
00:15:15,441 --> 00:15:17,986
Nothing.
I don't think he can make things right.
299
00:15:18,069 --> 00:15:20,405
Well, then, what do you hope
to accomplish, here?
300
00:15:20,488 --> 00:15:21,656
Can't you just admit to me,
301
00:15:21,739 --> 00:15:24,534
just between the two of us,
that this sucks?
302
00:15:24,617 --> 00:15:28,162
You can say it's your job, that you
believe in "forgiveness," whatever,
303
00:15:28,246 --> 00:15:30,290
but don't you at least a little bit think
304
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that when we let guys
like Vance off the hook...
305
00:15:32,292 --> 00:15:34,669
- Diane.
- ...when you, as a woman,
306
00:15:34,752 --> 00:15:36,879
give awful men
the cover of your friendship,
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00:15:36,963 --> 00:15:38,965
when you work for them.
First of all,
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they're not gonna get better.
Second of all, you are then complicit...
309
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no, you're culpable
for the terrible things they do.
310
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Are you done?
311
00:15:47,432 --> 00:15:52,145
Just, woman to woman,
can't you admit this is screwed up?
312
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You've given me a lot to think about.
313
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Oh...!
314
00:16:02,822 --> 00:16:05,658
So, in conclusion,
is Smurfette a feminist icon?
315
00:16:05,742 --> 00:16:08,578
I think the better question is,
why does she have to be?,
316
00:16:08,661 --> 00:16:11,914
We've gotten a little off track, here.
We were talking about Vance Waggoner.
317
00:16:11,998 --> 00:16:12,832
Oh, yeah!
318
00:16:12,915 --> 00:16:15,960
We actually have a tape of a press
conference Vance gave, earlier today.
319
00:16:16,044 --> 00:16:17,378
- What?
- And he mentioned you in it.
320
00:16:17,462 --> 00:16:19,213
Oh, no, is this a Gotcha?
Am I the gotcha?
321
00:16:19,297 --> 00:16:20,631
Let's see what he had to say.
322
00:16:21,132 --> 00:16:23,301
I have an important announcement.
323
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I... am a feminist, too.
324
00:16:26,012 --> 00:16:31,517
That's why I had to walk away
from BoJack Horseman's new show Philbert.
325
00:16:31,601 --> 00:16:34,479
Okay, I read the scripts they sent me,
and I was outraged.
326
00:16:34,562 --> 00:16:38,608
Gratuitous sexual violence.
Protracted, lascivious nude scenes.
327
00:16:38,691 --> 00:16:41,861
Maybe BoJack Horseman thinks
that's all in good fun,
328
00:16:41,944 --> 00:16:43,154
but I know it's toxic.
329
00:16:43,237 --> 00:16:45,698
And if I took part in it,
I would be complicit...
330
00:16:45,782 --> 00:16:48,701
no, culpable for that toxicity.
331
00:16:48,785 --> 00:16:51,120
BoJack, what do you say to those charges?
332
00:16:51,204 --> 00:16:52,288
Um...
333
00:16:52,372 --> 00:16:54,082
The future is female?
334
00:17:00,046 --> 00:17:01,798
Pretty cool, huh?
335
00:17:02,173 --> 00:17:05,885
- Uh, are you sure about this outfit?
- All the toughest guys wear leather.
336
00:17:05,968 --> 00:17:09,680
Biker gangs, motorcycle cops,
non-heteronormative dominatrices.
337
00:17:09,764 --> 00:17:14,227
Well, this is the sleaziest,
most dangerous dive bar in Hollywoo.
338
00:17:14,352 --> 00:17:19,482
It's where all the bad boys party.
Charlie Sheen, Chris Brown, Subway Jared.
339
00:17:19,565 --> 00:17:23,694
Great. I'll waltz right in, fight
a few bouncers, throw a drink in a face,
340
00:17:23,778 --> 00:17:27,448
and get this menacing mug
on the cover of a few tabloids.
341
00:17:27,532 --> 00:17:30,201
- Hey.
- Hey! Bird brains!
342
00:17:30,284 --> 00:17:33,162
Why don't you snap
some pics of me being mean?
343
00:17:33,246 --> 00:17:37,041
Get the word out
that I'm a real tough SOAB!
344
00:17:37,125 --> 00:17:39,585
- You? Tough? Yeah, right!
- Hah!
345
00:17:39,669 --> 00:17:44,882
I've seen tougher guys at the fancy-boy
bubble bath parties I sometimes attend.
346
00:17:44,966 --> 00:17:47,260
- What?
- Sorry, I can't invite ya.
347
00:17:47,343 --> 00:17:49,137
Fancy boys only.
348
00:17:49,220 --> 00:17:52,056
- Well, you two have a pleasant afternoon.
- No, Mr. Peanutbutter.
349
00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:55,518
- Show 'em your tough stuff!
- Oh, yeah!
350
00:17:59,730 --> 00:18:01,065
Oh, my God, are you guys okay?
351
00:18:01,607 --> 00:18:03,609
- Did you hear that?
- No.
352
00:18:03,693 --> 00:18:05,778
Exactly. No more clicking.
353
00:18:05,862 --> 00:18:09,949
You fixed my TMJ, which means
no more wearing a night guard to bed.
354
00:18:10,366 --> 00:18:13,911
Wow, I already feel like a more confident
and assertive lover.
355
00:18:13,995 --> 00:18:15,455
Thanks, Mr. Peanutbutter.
356
00:18:15,538 --> 00:18:20,501
I'm gonna go home
and make love to my wiiiiiiiiiiiiife!
357
00:18:20,585 --> 00:18:21,419
Uh...
358
00:18:21,878 --> 00:18:24,630
My crossed eye. It... it's fixed!
359
00:18:24,714 --> 00:18:27,300
My depth perception
is so much better now.
360
00:18:27,467 --> 00:18:29,260
I'm gonna go watch a Wes Anderson movie
361
00:18:29,343 --> 00:18:32,805
and see if I can perceive
any depth in iiiiiiiiiiit!
362
00:18:34,056 --> 00:18:36,225
And stay out!
363
00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:40,104
Whoa.
364
00:18:40,188 --> 00:18:43,941
- So... did Philbert kill his wife?
- Well, Sassy thinks so.
365
00:18:44,025 --> 00:18:45,985
That's why she's pretending
to be his new partner,
366
00:18:46,068 --> 00:18:47,278
to get closer to the truth.
367
00:18:47,361 --> 00:18:49,405
Meanwhile, his old partner Fritz
is back in the mix,
368
00:18:49,489 --> 00:18:51,282
but he might be dead
and just a projection
369
00:18:51,365 --> 00:18:54,035
- of Philbert's lingering guilt.
- Ooooh!
370
00:18:54,368 --> 00:18:56,871
- That's very unclear.
- Yeah, the whole thing's nonsense,
371
00:18:56,954 --> 00:19:00,249
but, more importantly,
how do we prove it's not sexist?
372
00:19:00,333 --> 00:19:01,709
- It is sexist.
- No, of course.
373
00:19:01,792 --> 00:19:04,962
But right now, I have to do an interview
where I explain that it's not,
374
00:19:05,046 --> 00:19:07,131
because otherwise,
I'll look like a hypocrite,
375
00:19:07,215 --> 00:19:09,550
which would be really bad
for women everywhere.
376
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,178
So, in order to save feminism,
377
00:19:12,261 --> 00:19:14,180
you need to give me
some smart-sounding reasons
378
00:19:14,263 --> 00:19:17,058
why Philbert
isn't what it so obviously is,
379
00:19:17,141 --> 00:19:20,186
so that I can continue to be a hero
and role model.
380
00:19:20,269 --> 00:19:22,396
Everything Vance said
about these scripts is true.
381
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,025
It's posing as a deconstruction
of the edifice of toxic masculinity...
382
00:19:26,108 --> 00:19:27,777
Uh-huh. Toxic masculinity, yeah. Right.
383
00:19:27,860 --> 00:19:32,031
But it's just using that, as an excuse
to relish in its own excesses.
384
00:19:32,114 --> 00:19:35,159
And the most depressing thing...
is that ten times more people
385
00:19:35,243 --> 00:19:37,995
are gonna watch this show
than read anything I've ever written.
386
00:19:38,079 --> 00:19:40,289
I feel you're not really getting
into the spirit here.
387
00:19:40,373 --> 00:19:43,209
We can still take down Vance
and topple the patriarchy.
388
00:19:43,292 --> 00:19:46,087
Come on, we're doing feminism,
it's supposed to be fun!
389
00:19:46,170 --> 00:19:47,463
This isn't fun for me!
390
00:19:47,547 --> 00:19:51,217
Being a woman is not a hobby
or a pet interest of mine.
391
00:19:51,300 --> 00:19:54,554
You get to drop in, and play Joss Whedon,
and everybody cheers.
392
00:19:54,637 --> 00:19:57,515
But when you move on
to your next thing, I'm still here.
393
00:19:57,598 --> 00:19:59,892
Okay, yeah, I totally get that.
But in the meantime,
394
00:19:59,976 --> 00:20:01,936
I just need to know what to say
about this show.
395
00:20:02,019 --> 00:20:04,188
Say whatever you want.
I have a listicle to write.
396
00:20:04,272 --> 00:20:06,691
So, unless you can give me
"five times Rihanna gave us life,"
397
00:20:06,774 --> 00:20:08,234
this conversation is over.
398
00:20:11,696 --> 00:20:14,365
BoJack Horseman
is our Deep Dive guest, today.
399
00:20:14,448 --> 00:20:17,910
So, what's going on?
Something about your show being sexist?
400
00:20:17,994 --> 00:20:21,205
My producer printed out an article
for me, but I did not read it.
401
00:20:21,289 --> 00:20:23,583
Look, obviously,
when you take plot points out of context,
402
00:20:23,666 --> 00:20:24,750
they can seem unsavory.
403
00:20:24,834 --> 00:20:30,006
But they're all part of a larger attempt
to deconstruct... toxic... masculinity.
404
00:20:30,089 --> 00:20:32,008
Ooh! Sounds glamorous!
405
00:20:32,091 --> 00:20:34,218
No, we're not glamorizing it,
that's the thing.
406
00:20:34,302 --> 00:20:37,638
You're not supposed to like John Philbert
or agree with the things he does.
407
00:20:37,722 --> 00:20:40,057
It's a TV show.
It doesn't glamorize anything.
408
00:20:40,141 --> 00:20:43,144
But... maybe it normalizes it.
409
00:20:43,769 --> 00:20:44,895
I gotta go.
410
00:20:45,479 --> 00:20:51,027
Okay. We still have 48 minutes,
so, I guess I should just talk?
411
00:20:51,235 --> 00:20:53,112
I was eight years old
412
00:20:53,195 --> 00:20:55,656
when my father
first showed me his scars.
413
00:20:55,740 --> 00:21:00,411
Each scar... tells a story,
and every story... leaves a scar.
414
00:21:03,831 --> 00:21:06,334
- Holy crap!
- Diane, the show needs your help.
415
00:21:06,417 --> 00:21:07,585
- What?
- You were right.
416
00:21:07,668 --> 00:21:10,212
It's all the things you said it is,
but it doesn't have to be.
417
00:21:10,379 --> 00:21:13,966
Come on as a consulting producer.
Work with Flip on the scripts,
418
00:21:14,050 --> 00:21:16,218
make the show something
that we can all be proud of.
419
00:21:16,385 --> 00:21:17,511
Why would I do that?
420
00:21:17,595 --> 00:21:20,014
You said it yourself, more people
are going to watch this show
421
00:21:20,097 --> 00:21:21,557
than read anything you write.
422
00:21:21,766 --> 00:21:24,685
I'm giving you the opportunity
to change society for the better.
423
00:21:24,769 --> 00:21:28,731
- Nothing I do changes anything.
- No? You changed me.
424
00:21:35,446 --> 00:21:36,489
Listen up, scum.
425
00:21:36,572 --> 00:21:37,406
Huh?
426
00:21:37,490 --> 00:21:40,034
There's a new sheriff in town.
427
00:21:40,117 --> 00:21:42,244
- And his name is...
- Trace Norcutt.
428
00:21:42,328 --> 00:21:44,955
Yeah, I read about him this morning
in the metro section.
429
00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:47,124
He just won a special election, right?
430
00:21:47,208 --> 00:21:49,460
- Maybe so, but I...
- Wow!
431
00:21:49,543 --> 00:21:51,504
Thank you, sir, for keeping us informed
432
00:21:51,587 --> 00:21:54,632
about the comings and goings
of our city politic.
433
00:21:54,715 --> 00:21:59,261
After all, a democracy is only as strong
as its populace is informed.
434
00:21:59,345 --> 00:22:00,846
No, no, no, I was trying to...
435
00:22:00,930 --> 00:22:03,724
Hey, let's cheer once
for this kind stranger!
436
00:22:03,808 --> 00:22:06,227
- Hip! Hip!
- Hurray!
437
00:22:07,061 --> 00:22:11,273
I guess Princess Carolyn was right.
Huh, Todd? Todd?
438
00:22:11,357 --> 00:22:15,069
So, I guess the toughest thing of all
was being tough.
439
00:22:15,152 --> 00:22:16,654
- Who are you talking to?
- Estelle.
440
00:22:16,737 --> 00:22:19,281
- Who's Estelle?
- Just Estelle. You don't know her.
441
00:22:19,365 --> 00:22:21,992
Not everybody needs to know everybody.
442
00:22:22,076 --> 00:22:24,995
Hmm. I have learned two lessons, today.
443
00:22:27,289 --> 00:22:29,166
We still need to cast Philbert's partner.
444
00:22:29,250 --> 00:22:32,211
No more bad boys.
We can't take another PR hit.
445
00:22:32,294 --> 00:22:36,298
We need an actor who everybody loves.
Someone almost annoyingly positive.
446
00:22:36,382 --> 00:22:39,218
Enthusiastic with zero baggage.
447
00:22:41,679 --> 00:22:44,056
You know who would be perfect?
448
00:22:44,598 --> 00:22:46,434
Uh...
449
00:22:46,976 --> 00:22:48,936
Hey, Flip! Diane.
450
00:22:49,019 --> 00:22:52,314
Yeah, you're the lady who's gonna make
my show less sexist, right?
451
00:22:52,398 --> 00:22:55,109
- Well, I'll see what I can do.
- Here's what I need.
452
00:22:55,192 --> 00:22:59,280
Sit in my office, don't chew too loud,
and collect your paycheck.
453
00:22:59,363 --> 00:23:00,740
Then, when the show comes out,
454
00:23:00,823 --> 00:23:02,908
people will see your name
in the credits and say,
455
00:23:02,992 --> 00:23:06,871
"Huh, a lady worked on the show.
Guess it's not sexist."
456
00:23:06,954 --> 00:23:09,707
- I can contribute more than that.
- Not necessary.
457
00:23:09,790 --> 00:23:14,003
Hey, thanks for being here.
You're really making a difference.
458
00:23:14,086 --> 00:23:15,838
Uh...
459
00:23:21,886 --> 00:23:24,180
- Hello, Diane.
- Jesus Christ!
460
00:23:24,263 --> 00:23:25,681
I locked the doors this time!
461
00:23:25,765 --> 00:23:28,559
I broke your window,
because I needed to talk to you.
462
00:23:28,642 --> 00:23:31,687
- I have a phone!
- You were right about Vance.
463
00:23:31,771 --> 00:23:35,691
He just got fired off his new movie
after a drunken rant about the Chinese,
464
00:23:35,775 --> 00:23:39,612
and then plowed his Hummer into the side
of the Grauman's Egyptian Theatre.
465
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:43,282
- Not the... Chinese Theatre?
- Mhm.
466
00:23:43,365 --> 00:23:47,244
Anyway, his career is over,
for about two or three years,
467
00:23:47,328 --> 00:23:49,038
- and then he'll be fine again.
- Yeah.
468
00:23:49,121 --> 00:23:52,792
Listen, I'm sorry, the last time I saw you
I made things kind of personal.
469
00:23:52,875 --> 00:23:55,961
No, no. You were right.
We give these men cover.
470
00:23:56,045 --> 00:23:57,296
And if we give them cover,
471
00:23:57,379 --> 00:23:59,465
we should know
exactly what they're capable of.
472
00:23:59,548 --> 00:24:02,426
In fact,
I wanted to share this with you...
473
00:24:02,510 --> 00:24:04,637
woman to woman.
474
00:24:05,012 --> 00:24:07,515
She just walked in
at the worst possible...
475
00:24:07,765 --> 00:24:11,143
- It wasn't my fault... right?
- What is this?
476
00:24:11,227 --> 00:24:13,604
- ...what you're talking about.
- On the boat.
477
00:24:13,687 --> 00:24:14,980
There was a girl.
478
00:24:15,314 --> 00:24:17,274
- What?
- In New Mexico.
479
00:24:17,942 --> 00:24:19,985
- And she trusted me.
- Wha...?
480
00:24:20,069 --> 00:24:21,445
I keep asking myself,
481
00:24:21,529 --> 00:24:24,448
if her mother didn't walk in,
would I have done it?
482
00:24:24,532 --> 00:24:27,201
And part of me is sure
that I... I couldn't.
483
00:24:28,702 --> 00:24:31,038
But another part knows that's a lie.
484
00:24:31,997 --> 00:24:34,187
How do you make it right
when you've made it so wrong,
485
00:24:34,188 --> 00:24:35,334
you can never go back?
486
00:24:39,255 --> 00:24:41,590
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