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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,618 --> 00:00:03,802 sync & correction by f1nc0 ~ Addic7ed.com ~ 2 00:00:09,203 --> 00:00:11,872 - Sir, please get back into your car. - Here's how it's gonna go down, sweetchicks. 3 00:00:11,955 --> 00:00:13,040 You're gonna let me go. 4 00:00:13,123 --> 00:00:16,460 If you're lucky, I might even honk your... boobies! 5 00:00:16,543 --> 00:00:18,967 - Whoa! You're under arrest - Hey! Hey! 6 00:00:19,002 --> 00:00:20,214 - for assaulting a police officer. - You're arresting me? 7 00:00:20,297 --> 00:00:22,257 You must be new here, on the rag, or both. 8 00:00:22,341 --> 00:00:25,552 I'm movie star Vance Waggoner, and I hate Jews! 9 00:00:26,428 --> 00:00:27,930 This is the Deep Dive! 10 00:00:28,013 --> 00:00:32,059 My guest today recently said some things, or did some things? 11 00:00:32,142 --> 00:00:34,645 I only read the headline. Vance, what happened? 12 00:00:35,771 --> 00:00:37,689 First of all, I don't hate Jews. 13 00:00:37,773 --> 00:00:39,775 If I did, would I be able to sit in the same room 14 00:00:39,858 --> 00:00:42,236 as my good friend Mark Feuerstein, a Jew? 15 00:00:42,736 --> 00:00:45,030 You know, when I first heard Vance's comments, they stung, 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,159 but when he called to offer his apology and a supporting role in his next movie, 17 00:00:49,243 --> 00:00:51,954 I thought, "Does not the Torah teach us to forgive?" 18 00:00:52,037 --> 00:00:54,790 As it is written, "schmear, don't smear." 19 00:00:55,958 --> 00:00:58,877 Hey! Good to see you. Thanks for coming, everyone! 20 00:00:59,878 --> 00:01:02,548 Hey! Hey, Vance, did you get practice swinging that baseball bat 21 00:01:02,631 --> 00:01:05,426 from the time you hit that prostitute, with a baseball bat? 22 00:01:05,509 --> 00:01:07,177 What? Who told you that? 23 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,932 I'm Tom Jumbo-Grumbo, and this is Gotcha! 24 00:01:12,015 --> 00:01:14,601 Vance Waggoner, you hit a woman with a baseball bat. 25 00:01:14,685 --> 00:01:16,019 What's your side of the story? 26 00:01:16,103 --> 00:01:17,729 Okay, look, when that altercation occurred, 27 00:01:17,813 --> 00:01:21,942 I was an immature child... of 38. I'm not that guy anymore. 28 00:01:22,025 --> 00:01:23,694 Vance Waggoner respects women. 29 00:01:23,777 --> 00:01:27,489 We have a tape of a voicemail you left for your 14-year-old daughter. 30 00:01:27,573 --> 00:01:30,200 - Oh, God. - Let's give it a listen, shall we? 31 00:01:30,284 --> 00:01:31,577 I'll murder you. 32 00:01:31,660 --> 00:01:35,038 I'm going to murder my daughter. I don't respect women. 33 00:01:35,122 --> 00:01:39,209 You're out there, hanging out with your dirty Swedish friends. 34 00:01:39,293 --> 00:01:41,044 That's right, I hate Swedes now. 35 00:01:41,128 --> 00:01:42,504 I bet you didn't see that coming, 36 00:01:42,588 --> 00:01:45,549 you disgusting slut, who is my daughter! 37 00:01:45,632 --> 00:01:49,136 As we say here on Gotcha, that's a gotcha. 38 00:01:49,219 --> 00:01:51,430 Why did I go on a show called Gotcha? 39 00:01:53,098 --> 00:01:56,602 I stand here with my wife beside me, and my daughter, 40 00:01:56,685 --> 00:01:58,687 and my good friend Stellan Skarsgård. 41 00:01:58,770 --> 00:02:00,814 I am retiring from public life. 42 00:02:00,898 --> 00:02:03,400 This is the last you'll see of Vance Waggoner. 43 00:02:07,196 --> 00:02:09,656 Who are we gonna get to play Philbert's partner? 44 00:02:09,740 --> 00:02:12,618 We need a bad boy. Someone dangerous, 45 00:02:12,701 --> 00:02:16,955 someone you see coming and think, "This guy is trouble." 46 00:02:18,248 --> 00:02:20,250 You know who would be perfect? 47 00:03:11,059 --> 00:03:14,484 5x04 - BoJack the Feminist 48 00:03:21,478 --> 00:03:23,647 - Thank you so much for meeting me. - Of course. 49 00:03:23,730 --> 00:03:25,107 I know how busy you are. 50 00:03:25,190 --> 00:03:29,319 The Apology Tour can be a hassle, but you've been handling it perfectly. 51 00:03:29,403 --> 00:03:30,737 What do you have lined up next? 52 00:03:30,821 --> 00:03:33,991 Well, I'm getting the lifetime achievement at the We Forgive You Awards. 53 00:03:34,074 --> 00:03:37,869 You're getting a Forgivie? Damn, your publicist is good. 54 00:03:37,953 --> 00:03:40,122 I don't care about awards. I just want to work, damn it. 55 00:03:40,205 --> 00:03:42,040 You just have to remind them how good you are. 56 00:03:42,124 --> 00:03:46,086 Maybe by taking a meaty role on my gritty, prestige television show Philbert. 57 00:03:46,169 --> 00:03:48,839 Once word gets out that it's okay to hire you again, 58 00:03:48,922 --> 00:03:52,467 all the other offers will come rolling in. Producers are like lemmings. 59 00:03:52,551 --> 00:03:54,011 - Hey, I resent that! - Me, too! 60 00:03:54,094 --> 00:03:57,180 - I also resent that. To the cliff! - Yeah, let's go. 61 00:03:57,264 --> 00:03:59,891 I have a great deal of love and respect for the lemming community! 62 00:04:00,475 --> 00:04:01,768 Okay, I'm in. 63 00:04:04,980 --> 00:04:06,857 Diane, can you believe this? 64 00:04:06,940 --> 00:04:10,360 Vance Waggoner is getting a We Forgive You Award! 65 00:04:10,444 --> 00:04:12,696 Ugh! This town is full of hypocrites. 66 00:04:12,779 --> 00:04:16,199 They act all shocked when one of their favorite stars turns out to be a dirtbag, 67 00:04:16,283 --> 00:04:19,494 but they can't wait to give a comeback to all the dirtbags we already know about. 68 00:04:19,578 --> 00:04:22,914 Now, that is the kind of story I would share without reading, 69 00:04:22,998 --> 00:04:25,709 which, for our purposes, is even better than people reading. 70 00:04:25,792 --> 00:04:27,044 Go to the awards show, 71 00:04:27,127 --> 00:04:29,713 take down that skeevy so-and so, 72 00:04:29,796 --> 00:04:32,883 and then during commercial breaks, get in some Hollywoo hobnobbing. 73 00:04:32,966 --> 00:04:36,303 - Oh, I'd rather not. - Diane, you have to hobnob. 74 00:04:36,386 --> 00:04:38,680 Have you not been hobnobbing? Hob that nob, girl! 75 00:04:38,764 --> 00:04:41,600 We know how this ends. Our core readership eats it up, 76 00:04:41,683 --> 00:04:43,935 a bunch of dude-bros call me a "dumb slunt," 77 00:04:44,019 --> 00:04:45,812 and Vance's career chugs, right along. 78 00:04:45,896 --> 00:04:49,107 So, stellar! And while you're there, you can ask your friend BoJack, 79 00:04:49,191 --> 00:04:51,485 why Vance is gonna co-star on his new TV show. 80 00:04:51,568 --> 00:04:53,111 He's what? Oop! Aaaah! 81 00:04:56,239 --> 00:04:57,949 Greetings, from the red carpet! 82 00:04:58,033 --> 00:05:01,953 Filling in for a Mario Lopez-type, 'tis I, Mr. Peanutbutter! 83 00:05:02,037 --> 00:05:03,121 And lookie here! 84 00:05:03,205 --> 00:05:07,292 Super-producer and also my manager, Princess Carolyn! 85 00:05:07,376 --> 00:05:08,585 Who are you wearing 86 00:05:08,669 --> 00:05:11,338 and why haven't you called, about the Dog Day Afternoon reboot? 87 00:05:11,421 --> 00:05:12,673 - Uh... - It's cool. We can talk. 88 00:05:12,756 --> 00:05:15,300 - They cut around stuff they don't need. - Oh, okay. 89 00:05:15,550 --> 00:05:19,763 No one understands how to make a woman feel beautiful like Louis Kitton. 90 00:05:20,722 --> 00:05:23,475 Listen, kid. Dog Day Afternoon isn't gonna happen for you. 91 00:05:23,558 --> 00:05:26,103 - People don't see you as the tough guy. - That's not fair. 92 00:05:26,186 --> 00:05:27,979 Who are you excited to see tonight? 93 00:05:28,063 --> 00:05:30,941 So many amazing stars are being forgiven tonight. 94 00:05:31,024 --> 00:05:33,235 Megyn Kelly, Mark Wahlberg... 95 00:05:33,402 --> 00:05:35,112 Look, every actor has a range, 96 00:05:35,195 --> 00:05:37,447 and maybe a gritty drama about a tough-guy bank robber 97 00:05:37,531 --> 00:05:38,990 is too much of a stretch for you. 98 00:05:39,074 --> 00:05:41,451 So, I'm not tough enough, huh? 99 00:05:41,535 --> 00:05:44,454 I'll show them how tough I can be. 100 00:05:45,288 --> 00:05:50,210 We'll be back with more of the Red Carpet Pre-Show Fashion-Stravaganza, 101 00:05:50,293 --> 00:05:53,755 so don't touch that remote... or else. 102 00:05:55,882 --> 00:06:00,303 There is no one this town loves forgiving more than Vance Waggoner. 103 00:06:01,596 --> 00:06:03,140 I just don't get why you're doing this. 104 00:06:03,223 --> 00:06:05,475 - We need a big star, Diane. - No, Diane's right. 105 00:06:05,559 --> 00:06:07,227 - I'm the big star. - That's not my point. 106 00:06:07,310 --> 00:06:08,937 You can't have two stars. 107 00:06:09,020 --> 00:06:12,023 All the greatest detective shows are focused around a central, 108 00:06:12,107 --> 00:06:13,817 usually titular character. 109 00:06:13,900 --> 00:06:16,027 Kojak, Monk, Nickis. 110 00:06:16,111 --> 00:06:17,821 - Who's Nickis? - You know, Nickis. 111 00:06:17,904 --> 00:06:20,615 Sometimes, he goes to Los Angeles, to New Orleans... 112 00:06:20,699 --> 00:06:24,536 Are you...? Do you mean NCIS? 113 00:06:24,745 --> 00:06:25,912 No. 114 00:06:25,996 --> 00:06:29,499 Princess Carolyn, if you hire this guy, what kind of message does that send? 115 00:06:29,583 --> 00:06:31,668 Diane, we both know the industry is screwed up. 116 00:06:31,752 --> 00:06:34,045 I'm not talking to the industry. I'm talking to you. 117 00:06:34,129 --> 00:06:35,756 - Take some responsibility. - Excuse me? 118 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,673 Hey! Cheese plate! 119 00:06:36,757 --> 00:06:38,508 ...Vance Waggoner! 120 00:06:41,845 --> 00:06:42,929 Ugh! 121 00:06:43,597 --> 00:06:47,142 Horseman forcefully forgoes applause for Vance at Forgivies! 122 00:06:47,225 --> 00:06:49,352 Is a feud forming on the Philbert front? 123 00:06:49,436 --> 00:06:52,939 That's the buzz around town, and the question on everybody's mind is, 124 00:06:53,023 --> 00:06:54,524 "Why the strong face?" 125 00:06:55,025 --> 00:06:58,987 He made the face in protest because of what Vance said about native Alaskans. 126 00:06:59,070 --> 00:07:01,948 BoJack's clearly upset about the time Vance Waggoner 127 00:07:02,032 --> 00:07:07,162 said the Madrid train bombings were "a real mixed bag." 128 00:07:07,412 --> 00:07:10,207 Remember when Vance locked that shopgirl in a hotel room 129 00:07:10,290 --> 00:07:14,669 and said, "I've got pizzazz" while masturbating into a champagne flute? 130 00:07:14,753 --> 00:07:16,922 Because BoJack remembers. 131 00:07:17,005 --> 00:07:21,384 God damn it! The whole point of the award was to put the past behind me. 132 00:07:21,468 --> 00:07:23,929 But now, because of this idiot's dumb face, 133 00:07:24,012 --> 00:07:26,389 my past is all anyone's talking about! 134 00:07:26,473 --> 00:07:28,683 Everyone else was clapping. Why couldn't you clap? 135 00:07:28,767 --> 00:07:31,186 Hey, man, awards show should've had better cheese. 136 00:07:31,269 --> 00:07:34,689 - My publicist is furious, by the way. - Ooh, spooky publicist! 137 00:07:34,773 --> 00:07:37,359 Hope she doesn't papercut me with her mad press release. 138 00:07:37,442 --> 00:07:38,527 We're gonna handle this. 139 00:07:38,610 --> 00:07:42,948 BoJack will go on TV and explain this unfortunate faux pas du fromage. 140 00:07:43,031 --> 00:07:45,325 - Won't you, BoJack? - Ugh. Fine. 141 00:07:45,408 --> 00:07:49,496 Once again, hero BoJack will clean up everyone else's mess. 142 00:07:53,917 --> 00:07:55,418 - Hello, Todd. - Ooh! 143 00:07:56,211 --> 00:07:59,464 Did you notice how I just walked in without knocking? Pretty tough, huh? 144 00:07:59,548 --> 00:08:00,382 Not at all! 145 00:08:00,465 --> 00:08:02,634 To me, it read as amiable and familiar, 146 00:08:02,717 --> 00:08:05,762 like our friendship has an assumed "open door" policy. 147 00:08:05,846 --> 00:08:08,014 God damn it! Owie! 148 00:08:08,139 --> 00:08:10,684 Apparently, Hollywoo producers don't think I'm tough enough 149 00:08:10,767 --> 00:08:12,352 to play the bad boy parts. 150 00:08:12,435 --> 00:08:14,855 - Oh, no! - Todd, you're the toughest guy I know. 151 00:08:16,147 --> 00:08:20,360 - Will you teach me how to be tough? - I thought you'd never ask. 152 00:08:20,443 --> 00:08:23,655 Because I had no idea this was happening to you. 153 00:08:27,492 --> 00:08:31,121 BoJack, clear the air. Why'd you give Vance the face? 154 00:08:31,204 --> 00:08:32,581 Well, there was this cheese... 155 00:08:32,664 --> 00:08:34,165 And you're lactose intolerant, 156 00:08:34,249 --> 00:08:36,418 which reminded you that Vance lacks tolerance? 157 00:08:36,501 --> 00:08:37,419 No, it... 158 00:08:37,502 --> 00:08:38,795 The cheese stands alone, 159 00:08:38,879 --> 00:08:41,798 but no woman should stand alone, when standing up to sexual harassment? 160 00:08:41,882 --> 00:08:43,633 - Squawk! - No, it wasn't any of those things! 161 00:08:43,717 --> 00:08:47,053 So, you're saying it wasn't any one thing, more of an accumulation? 162 00:08:47,137 --> 00:08:49,180 - It... - BoJack, it is really incredible, 163 00:08:49,264 --> 00:08:50,932 your taking a stand against your co-star. 164 00:08:51,016 --> 00:08:54,644 - No, I'm not taking any stand... - I mean, the guy choked his wife, 165 00:08:54,728 --> 00:08:57,647 and most of Hollywoo is, like, "No biggie. Good for him!" 166 00:08:57,731 --> 00:09:00,775 - Squawk! - Okay, well, obviously it's not good 167 00:09:00,859 --> 00:09:01,860 he choked his wife. 168 00:09:01,943 --> 00:09:03,361 Wow! 169 00:09:03,445 --> 00:09:06,448 No, no, no! I wasn't trying to make some bold statement or anything. 170 00:09:06,531 --> 00:09:08,783 It's just that... choking your wife is bad. 171 00:09:11,202 --> 00:09:12,203 Really? 172 00:09:13,538 --> 00:09:14,372 Okay. 173 00:09:14,456 --> 00:09:19,377 Can I just tell you how amazing it is to hear a man say that? 174 00:09:19,461 --> 00:09:22,088 Well, Paloma, someone needed to take a stand. 175 00:09:24,049 --> 00:09:27,385 Call me crazy. I mean, this is just old BoJack talking, 176 00:09:27,469 --> 00:09:30,764 but how about we don't choke any women? 177 00:09:30,847 --> 00:09:34,726 So true, right? Don't choke women! 178 00:09:34,809 --> 00:09:36,937 Don't choke women! 179 00:09:37,020 --> 00:09:40,315 BoJack is right. Hollywoo shouldn't legitimize abusers, 180 00:09:40,398 --> 00:09:42,943 by allowing them to star in movies and TV shows, 181 00:09:43,026 --> 00:09:45,487 that play off their problematic personas! 182 00:09:45,570 --> 00:09:47,822 Hollywoo shouldn't legitimize abusers 183 00:09:47,906 --> 00:09:50,533 by allowing them to star in movies and TV shows 184 00:09:50,617 --> 00:09:53,495 that play off their problematic personas! 185 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,705 - All right! - Squawk! 186 00:09:55,789 --> 00:09:57,582 And speaking of battering women, 187 00:09:57,666 --> 00:10:01,503 right after the break, we'll show you how to make the perfect blueberry pancake. 188 00:10:01,586 --> 00:10:05,465 - With proud feminist, BoJack Horseman. - Stick around! 189 00:10:05,548 --> 00:10:07,509 And don't choke women! 190 00:10:09,970 --> 00:10:13,306 How is it you consistently do the opposite of the thing I need you to do? 191 00:10:13,390 --> 00:10:14,808 I don't know, Princess Carolyn. 192 00:10:14,891 --> 00:10:16,768 Is it possible, this whole time, 193 00:10:16,851 --> 00:10:19,729 I've been an amazing feminist hero, and nobody knew it? 194 00:10:19,813 --> 00:10:21,398 - BoJack! - Feels pretty right. 195 00:10:21,481 --> 00:10:24,359 Yeah, I'm a male feminist. You're welcome, society. 196 00:10:24,442 --> 00:10:26,111 - I gotta call Vance. - Okay. 197 00:10:26,194 --> 00:10:28,697 I'm just gonna stay here, being woke. 198 00:10:29,239 --> 00:10:31,825 Vance! Listen, BoJack's been very dehydrated. 199 00:10:31,908 --> 00:10:35,912 No, no, no. You can't use the old "dehydration made him stupid" trick on me. 200 00:10:35,996 --> 00:10:39,082 Okay? I'm Mr. Dehydration-Made-Me-Stupid. 201 00:10:39,165 --> 00:10:41,543 BoJack really wants to work with you. He just got caught up... 202 00:10:41,626 --> 00:10:43,169 Doesn't matter. I'm not doing the show. 203 00:10:43,253 --> 00:10:44,212 - What? - You were right. 204 00:10:44,295 --> 00:10:45,547 All it took was one offer. 205 00:10:45,630 --> 00:10:48,800 Once word got out I was doing Philbert, all the other offers started pouring in. 206 00:10:48,883 --> 00:10:50,135 You signed a contract! 207 00:10:50,218 --> 00:10:53,805 Oh, please. I sexted a 12-year-old and still got a Humanitas Prize. 208 00:10:53,888 --> 00:10:56,641 You think I can't get out of a contract, with a time website? 209 00:10:56,725 --> 00:10:59,686 By the way, still very sorry about sexting that 12-year-old. 210 00:10:59,769 --> 00:11:01,229 Oh-hh! 211 00:11:01,521 --> 00:11:04,274 Hey, Princess Carolyn, you ever notice how, as a woman, 212 00:11:04,357 --> 00:11:07,152 you only make ten cents for every dollar your clients make? 213 00:11:07,235 --> 00:11:11,281 - Really makes you think, huh? - BoJack, I was wrong, you were right. 214 00:11:11,364 --> 00:11:13,533 Let's take that asshole down. 215 00:11:14,826 --> 00:11:16,453 So, now, you wanna take him down 216 00:11:16,536 --> 00:11:18,413 Now, that he's not doing your TV show, anymore? 217 00:11:18,496 --> 00:11:19,622 Diane, don't be cynical. 218 00:11:19,706 --> 00:11:21,583 - I'm cynical? - What do you want me to say? 219 00:11:21,666 --> 00:11:24,252 I got blinded by my desire to see myself succeed, 220 00:11:24,335 --> 00:11:27,255 which, since I'm a woman, is actually very feminist. 221 00:11:27,338 --> 00:11:29,382 But now that Vance can't help me succeed, 222 00:11:29,466 --> 00:11:33,887 I realize the more feminist thing to do is to make sure he doesn't succeed either. 223 00:11:34,179 --> 00:11:37,307 - I'm cynical? - I'm offering an olive branch, here. 224 00:11:37,390 --> 00:11:40,477 Look, this town loves assholes like Vance. There's nothing we can do. 225 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:43,146 This town is as wishy-washy as a virgin on prom night. 226 00:11:43,229 --> 00:11:47,400 All they need to listen to women is the right voice... a man's voice. 227 00:11:48,359 --> 00:11:49,194 Oh! 228 00:11:49,611 --> 00:11:52,072 - Is that why I'm here? - Yep. I brought you two together 229 00:11:52,155 --> 00:11:55,492 because between your feminist brain and your stupid manly face, 230 00:11:55,575 --> 00:11:57,952 you can actually say things that people will listen to. 231 00:11:58,036 --> 00:12:00,205 That's a good point. People do listen to me all the time. 232 00:12:00,288 --> 00:12:04,084 One time I tweeted "RIP David Bowie," and now everyone still thinks he's dead. 233 00:12:04,167 --> 00:12:06,628 - David Bowie is dead. - Wait, for real? Oh, man. 234 00:12:06,711 --> 00:12:11,424 So, through BoJack, I can say whatever I want, to a huge audience, 235 00:12:11,508 --> 00:12:15,720 without being called "shrill," or "naggy," or "classic Diane." 236 00:12:15,804 --> 00:12:17,680 Yeah. Everyone loves a male feminist. 237 00:12:17,764 --> 00:12:20,141 It turns out, the problem with feminism, all along, 238 00:12:20,225 --> 00:12:21,893 is it just wasn't men doing it. 239 00:12:22,060 --> 00:12:23,311 We're much less shrill. 240 00:12:23,394 --> 00:12:26,147 Yeah, this is truly a great day for women everywhere. 241 00:12:29,859 --> 00:12:32,153 Okay, how do I make people think I'm a tough bad boy, 242 00:12:32,237 --> 00:12:34,614 who doesn't give a care about society's precious rules? 243 00:12:34,697 --> 00:12:37,492 Every time Vance Waggoner breaks the rules, 244 00:12:37,575 --> 00:12:39,828 - it gets caught on camera. - That's it! 245 00:12:39,911 --> 00:12:42,580 We just need some video evidence of me being tough! 246 00:12:42,664 --> 00:12:44,082 Here, record this. 247 00:12:44,374 --> 00:12:45,333 Ooooh! 248 00:12:47,627 --> 00:12:50,004 - Hey, got one for me, toughie? - Sorry, bud. 249 00:12:50,088 --> 00:12:51,464 Not yet, you're not. 250 00:12:51,548 --> 00:12:54,384 But you can bet your candy ass you're gonna be. 251 00:12:54,467 --> 00:12:56,511 - Ooh! - What the...? 252 00:12:56,594 --> 00:12:58,263 What do you say to that? 253 00:12:59,347 --> 00:13:02,183 - Thank you. So much. - Huh? 254 00:13:02,642 --> 00:13:05,770 Two weeks ago, we buried my father. Lung cancer. 255 00:13:05,854 --> 00:13:08,231 My baby girl made me promise I'd quit smoking, 256 00:13:08,314 --> 00:13:11,943 but I've been sneaking these suicide sticks this entire time. 257 00:13:12,026 --> 00:13:14,445 No more. That was my last cigarette. 258 00:13:14,612 --> 00:13:17,907 Thank you, you sweet, sweet soul. 259 00:13:18,366 --> 00:13:19,284 Mm-wah! 260 00:13:19,576 --> 00:13:23,413 You are truly a kind and approachable character. 261 00:13:23,496 --> 00:13:25,832 And tough? 262 00:13:25,915 --> 00:13:28,918 Tough not to love, you big galoot! 263 00:13:29,002 --> 00:13:30,587 Oh, banana bread! 264 00:13:31,713 --> 00:13:34,883 Okay, just... 265 00:13:34,966 --> 00:13:38,970 Okay, so, pop culture inherently normalizes things, 266 00:13:39,053 --> 00:13:40,847 and that power works both ways. 267 00:13:40,930 --> 00:13:42,473 It can normalize things for good, 268 00:13:42,557 --> 00:13:45,768 like how dancing Ellen makes middle America less afraid of gay people. 269 00:13:45,852 --> 00:13:47,770 But it can also normalize things for bad, 270 00:13:47,854 --> 00:13:51,691 like what Jack Bauer did for torture, or what Jimmy Fallon did for lip-syncing. 271 00:13:51,983 --> 00:13:55,236 So, when we give a platform to known abusers like Vance Waggoner, 272 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,488 that's an example of...? 273 00:13:59,115 --> 00:14:01,618 Normalizing things for...? 274 00:14:03,912 --> 00:14:06,080 - Good or bad? - I'm sorry. 275 00:14:06,164 --> 00:14:08,416 I know you're trying really hard not to be boring, 276 00:14:08,499 --> 00:14:10,585 and it's kind of not boring, 277 00:14:10,668 --> 00:14:13,338 but it still mostly feels like I'm being lectured at. 278 00:14:13,421 --> 00:14:14,547 - Okay, well... - Hold on. 279 00:14:14,631 --> 00:14:17,842 Let me imagine that I'm saying it. You know what, that's a little better. 280 00:14:17,926 --> 00:14:20,053 Well, the bar for men is depressingly low. 281 00:14:20,136 --> 00:14:24,057 Just sprinkle in a few words like "intersectionality" or "micro-aggressions" 282 00:14:24,140 --> 00:14:26,643 and Vice News will name you Feminist of the Year. 283 00:14:26,726 --> 00:14:28,853 Oh, should I wear a T-shirt that says "Feminism is Bae"? 284 00:14:28,937 --> 00:14:30,355 Girls love shit like that, right? 285 00:14:30,438 --> 00:14:32,523 Sounds great, BoJack. 286 00:14:38,363 --> 00:14:41,241 - Hello, Diane. - How did you get in my car? 287 00:14:41,324 --> 00:14:44,160 - You left it unlocked. - It's a Prius. It locks automatically. 288 00:14:44,244 --> 00:14:46,246 Priuses unlock automatically. 289 00:14:46,329 --> 00:14:48,456 You still need to lock it when you get out. 290 00:14:48,539 --> 00:14:50,875 - Really? - I know you and your little Scooby gang 291 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:54,712 are plotting something against my client, and I want you to stop. 292 00:14:54,796 --> 00:14:58,341 Ugh! Of course that dirtbag would hire Ana Spanakopita. 293 00:14:58,424 --> 00:15:02,220 Vance has a troubled past. All he's asking for is a fresh start. 294 00:15:02,303 --> 00:15:06,015 - No. Why does he get that over and over? - He's reformed. 295 00:15:06,099 --> 00:15:07,475 What else would you have him do? 296 00:15:07,558 --> 00:15:10,603 Let's say, you can make him do anything you want to make things right. 297 00:15:10,853 --> 00:15:14,482 What would you make Vance Waggoner do, now? 298 00:15:15,441 --> 00:15:17,986 Nothing. I don't think he can make things right. 299 00:15:18,069 --> 00:15:20,405 Well, then, what do you hope to accomplish, here? 300 00:15:20,488 --> 00:15:21,656 Can't you just admit to me, 301 00:15:21,739 --> 00:15:24,534 just between the two of us, that this sucks? 302 00:15:24,617 --> 00:15:28,162 You can say it's your job, that you believe in "forgiveness," whatever, 303 00:15:28,246 --> 00:15:30,290 but don't you at least a little bit think 304 00:15:30,373 --> 00:15:32,208 that when we let guys like Vance off the hook... 305 00:15:32,292 --> 00:15:34,669 - Diane. - ...when you, as a woman, 306 00:15:34,752 --> 00:15:36,879 give awful men the cover of your friendship, 307 00:15:36,963 --> 00:15:38,965 when you work for them. First of all, 308 00:15:39,048 --> 00:15:42,010 they're not gonna get better. Second of all, you are then complicit... 309 00:15:42,093 --> 00:15:46,055 no, you're culpable for the terrible things they do. 310 00:15:46,139 --> 00:15:47,348 Are you done? 311 00:15:47,432 --> 00:15:52,145 Just, woman to woman, can't you admit this is screwed up? 312 00:15:52,895 --> 00:15:55,315 You've given me a lot to think about. 313 00:16:00,236 --> 00:16:01,821 Oh...! 314 00:16:02,822 --> 00:16:05,658 So, in conclusion, is Smurfette a feminist icon? 315 00:16:05,742 --> 00:16:08,578 I think the better question is, why does she have to be?, 316 00:16:08,661 --> 00:16:11,914 We've gotten a little off track, here. We were talking about Vance Waggoner. 317 00:16:11,998 --> 00:16:12,832 Oh, yeah! 318 00:16:12,915 --> 00:16:15,960 We actually have a tape of a press conference Vance gave, earlier today. 319 00:16:16,044 --> 00:16:17,378 - What? - And he mentioned you in it. 320 00:16:17,462 --> 00:16:19,213 Oh, no, is this a Gotcha? Am I the gotcha? 321 00:16:19,297 --> 00:16:20,631 Let's see what he had to say. 322 00:16:21,132 --> 00:16:23,301 I have an important announcement. 323 00:16:23,384 --> 00:16:25,928 I... am a feminist, too. 324 00:16:26,012 --> 00:16:31,517 That's why I had to walk away from BoJack Horseman's new show Philbert. 325 00:16:31,601 --> 00:16:34,479 Okay, I read the scripts they sent me, and I was outraged. 326 00:16:34,562 --> 00:16:38,608 Gratuitous sexual violence. Protracted, lascivious nude scenes. 327 00:16:38,691 --> 00:16:41,861 Maybe BoJack Horseman thinks that's all in good fun, 328 00:16:41,944 --> 00:16:43,154 but I know it's toxic. 329 00:16:43,237 --> 00:16:45,698 And if I took part in it, I would be complicit... 330 00:16:45,782 --> 00:16:48,701 no, culpable for that toxicity. 331 00:16:48,785 --> 00:16:51,120 BoJack, what do you say to those charges? 332 00:16:51,204 --> 00:16:52,288 Um... 333 00:16:52,372 --> 00:16:54,082 The future is female? 334 00:17:00,046 --> 00:17:01,798 Pretty cool, huh? 335 00:17:02,173 --> 00:17:05,885 - Uh, are you sure about this outfit? - All the toughest guys wear leather. 336 00:17:05,968 --> 00:17:09,680 Biker gangs, motorcycle cops, non-heteronormative dominatrices. 337 00:17:09,764 --> 00:17:14,227 Well, this is the sleaziest, most dangerous dive bar in Hollywoo. 338 00:17:14,352 --> 00:17:19,482 It's where all the bad boys party. Charlie Sheen, Chris Brown, Subway Jared. 339 00:17:19,565 --> 00:17:23,694 Great. I'll waltz right in, fight a few bouncers, throw a drink in a face, 340 00:17:23,778 --> 00:17:27,448 and get this menacing mug on the cover of a few tabloids. 341 00:17:27,532 --> 00:17:30,201 - Hey. - Hey! Bird brains! 342 00:17:30,284 --> 00:17:33,162 Why don't you snap some pics of me being mean? 343 00:17:33,246 --> 00:17:37,041 Get the word out that I'm a real tough SOAB! 344 00:17:37,125 --> 00:17:39,585 - You? Tough? Yeah, right! - Hah! 345 00:17:39,669 --> 00:17:44,882 I've seen tougher guys at the fancy-boy bubble bath parties I sometimes attend. 346 00:17:44,966 --> 00:17:47,260 - What? - Sorry, I can't invite ya. 347 00:17:47,343 --> 00:17:49,137 Fancy boys only. 348 00:17:49,220 --> 00:17:52,056 - Well, you two have a pleasant afternoon. - No, Mr. Peanutbutter. 349 00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:55,518 - Show 'em your tough stuff! - Oh, yeah! 350 00:17:59,730 --> 00:18:01,065 Oh, my God, are you guys okay? 351 00:18:01,607 --> 00:18:03,609 - Did you hear that? - No. 352 00:18:03,693 --> 00:18:05,778 Exactly. No more clicking. 353 00:18:05,862 --> 00:18:09,949 You fixed my TMJ, which means no more wearing a night guard to bed. 354 00:18:10,366 --> 00:18:13,911 Wow, I already feel like a more confident and assertive lover. 355 00:18:13,995 --> 00:18:15,455 Thanks, Mr. Peanutbutter. 356 00:18:15,538 --> 00:18:20,501 I'm gonna go home and make love to my wiiiiiiiiiiiiife! 357 00:18:20,585 --> 00:18:21,419 Uh... 358 00:18:21,878 --> 00:18:24,630 My crossed eye. It... it's fixed! 359 00:18:24,714 --> 00:18:27,300 My depth perception is so much better now. 360 00:18:27,467 --> 00:18:29,260 I'm gonna go watch a Wes Anderson movie 361 00:18:29,343 --> 00:18:32,805 and see if I can perceive any depth in iiiiiiiiiiit! 362 00:18:34,056 --> 00:18:36,225 And stay out! 363 00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:40,104 Whoa. 364 00:18:40,188 --> 00:18:43,941 - So... did Philbert kill his wife? - Well, Sassy thinks so. 365 00:18:44,025 --> 00:18:45,985 That's why she's pretending to be his new partner, 366 00:18:46,068 --> 00:18:47,278 to get closer to the truth. 367 00:18:47,361 --> 00:18:49,405 Meanwhile, his old partner Fritz is back in the mix, 368 00:18:49,489 --> 00:18:51,282 but he might be dead and just a projection 369 00:18:51,365 --> 00:18:54,035 - of Philbert's lingering guilt. - Ooooh! 370 00:18:54,368 --> 00:18:56,871 - That's very unclear. - Yeah, the whole thing's nonsense, 371 00:18:56,954 --> 00:19:00,249 but, more importantly, how do we prove it's not sexist? 372 00:19:00,333 --> 00:19:01,709 - It is sexist. - No, of course. 373 00:19:01,792 --> 00:19:04,962 But right now, I have to do an interview where I explain that it's not, 374 00:19:05,046 --> 00:19:07,131 because otherwise, I'll look like a hypocrite, 375 00:19:07,215 --> 00:19:09,550 which would be really bad for women everywhere. 376 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,178 So, in order to save feminism, 377 00:19:12,261 --> 00:19:14,180 you need to give me some smart-sounding reasons 378 00:19:14,263 --> 00:19:17,058 why Philbert isn't what it so obviously is, 379 00:19:17,141 --> 00:19:20,186 so that I can continue to be a hero and role model. 380 00:19:20,269 --> 00:19:22,396 Everything Vance said about these scripts is true. 381 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,025 It's posing as a deconstruction of the edifice of toxic masculinity... 382 00:19:26,108 --> 00:19:27,777 Uh-huh. Toxic masculinity, yeah. Right. 383 00:19:27,860 --> 00:19:32,031 But it's just using that, as an excuse to relish in its own excesses. 384 00:19:32,114 --> 00:19:35,159 And the most depressing thing... is that ten times more people 385 00:19:35,243 --> 00:19:37,995 are gonna watch this show than read anything I've ever written. 386 00:19:38,079 --> 00:19:40,289 I feel you're not really getting into the spirit here. 387 00:19:40,373 --> 00:19:43,209 We can still take down Vance and topple the patriarchy. 388 00:19:43,292 --> 00:19:46,087 Come on, we're doing feminism, it's supposed to be fun! 389 00:19:46,170 --> 00:19:47,463 This isn't fun for me! 390 00:19:47,547 --> 00:19:51,217 Being a woman is not a hobby or a pet interest of mine. 391 00:19:51,300 --> 00:19:54,554 You get to drop in, and play Joss Whedon, and everybody cheers. 392 00:19:54,637 --> 00:19:57,515 But when you move on to your next thing, I'm still here. 393 00:19:57,598 --> 00:19:59,892 Okay, yeah, I totally get that. But in the meantime, 394 00:19:59,976 --> 00:20:01,936 I just need to know what to say about this show. 395 00:20:02,019 --> 00:20:04,188 Say whatever you want. I have a listicle to write. 396 00:20:04,272 --> 00:20:06,691 So, unless you can give me "five times Rihanna gave us life," 397 00:20:06,774 --> 00:20:08,234 this conversation is over. 398 00:20:11,696 --> 00:20:14,365 BoJack Horseman is our Deep Dive guest, today. 399 00:20:14,448 --> 00:20:17,910 So, what's going on? Something about your show being sexist? 400 00:20:17,994 --> 00:20:21,205 My producer printed out an article for me, but I did not read it. 401 00:20:21,289 --> 00:20:23,583 Look, obviously, when you take plot points out of context, 402 00:20:23,666 --> 00:20:24,750 they can seem unsavory. 403 00:20:24,834 --> 00:20:30,006 But they're all part of a larger attempt to deconstruct... toxic... masculinity. 404 00:20:30,089 --> 00:20:32,008 Ooh! Sounds glamorous! 405 00:20:32,091 --> 00:20:34,218 No, we're not glamorizing it, that's the thing. 406 00:20:34,302 --> 00:20:37,638 You're not supposed to like John Philbert or agree with the things he does. 407 00:20:37,722 --> 00:20:40,057 It's a TV show. It doesn't glamorize anything. 408 00:20:40,141 --> 00:20:43,144 But... maybe it normalizes it. 409 00:20:43,769 --> 00:20:44,895 I gotta go. 410 00:20:45,479 --> 00:20:51,027 Okay. We still have 48 minutes, so, I guess I should just talk? 411 00:20:51,235 --> 00:20:53,112 I was eight years old 412 00:20:53,195 --> 00:20:55,656 when my father first showed me his scars. 413 00:20:55,740 --> 00:21:00,411 Each scar... tells a story, and every story... leaves a scar. 414 00:21:03,831 --> 00:21:06,334 - Holy crap! - Diane, the show needs your help. 415 00:21:06,417 --> 00:21:07,585 - What? - You were right. 416 00:21:07,668 --> 00:21:10,212 It's all the things you said it is, but it doesn't have to be. 417 00:21:10,379 --> 00:21:13,966 Come on as a consulting producer. Work with Flip on the scripts, 418 00:21:14,050 --> 00:21:16,218 make the show something that we can all be proud of. 419 00:21:16,385 --> 00:21:17,511 Why would I do that? 420 00:21:17,595 --> 00:21:20,014 You said it yourself, more people are going to watch this show 421 00:21:20,097 --> 00:21:21,557 than read anything you write. 422 00:21:21,766 --> 00:21:24,685 I'm giving you the opportunity to change society for the better. 423 00:21:24,769 --> 00:21:28,731 - Nothing I do changes anything. - No? You changed me. 424 00:21:35,446 --> 00:21:36,489 Listen up, scum. 425 00:21:36,572 --> 00:21:37,406 Huh? 426 00:21:37,490 --> 00:21:40,034 There's a new sheriff in town. 427 00:21:40,117 --> 00:21:42,244 - And his name is... - Trace Norcutt. 428 00:21:42,328 --> 00:21:44,955 Yeah, I read about him this morning in the metro section. 429 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:47,124 He just won a special election, right? 430 00:21:47,208 --> 00:21:49,460 - Maybe so, but I... - Wow! 431 00:21:49,543 --> 00:21:51,504 Thank you, sir, for keeping us informed 432 00:21:51,587 --> 00:21:54,632 about the comings and goings of our city politic. 433 00:21:54,715 --> 00:21:59,261 After all, a democracy is only as strong as its populace is informed. 434 00:21:59,345 --> 00:22:00,846 No, no, no, I was trying to... 435 00:22:00,930 --> 00:22:03,724 Hey, let's cheer once for this kind stranger! 436 00:22:03,808 --> 00:22:06,227 - Hip! Hip! - Hurray! 437 00:22:07,061 --> 00:22:11,273 I guess Princess Carolyn was right. Huh, Todd? Todd? 438 00:22:11,357 --> 00:22:15,069 So, I guess the toughest thing of all was being tough. 439 00:22:15,152 --> 00:22:16,654 - Who are you talking to? - Estelle. 440 00:22:16,737 --> 00:22:19,281 - Who's Estelle? - Just Estelle. You don't know her. 441 00:22:19,365 --> 00:22:21,992 Not everybody needs to know everybody. 442 00:22:22,076 --> 00:22:24,995 Hmm. I have learned two lessons, today. 443 00:22:27,289 --> 00:22:29,166 We still need to cast Philbert's partner. 444 00:22:29,250 --> 00:22:32,211 No more bad boys. We can't take another PR hit. 445 00:22:32,294 --> 00:22:36,298 We need an actor who everybody loves. Someone almost annoyingly positive. 446 00:22:36,382 --> 00:22:39,218 Enthusiastic with zero baggage. 447 00:22:41,679 --> 00:22:44,056 You know who would be perfect? 448 00:22:44,598 --> 00:22:46,434 Uh... 449 00:22:46,976 --> 00:22:48,936 Hey, Flip! Diane. 450 00:22:49,019 --> 00:22:52,314 Yeah, you're the lady who's gonna make my show less sexist, right? 451 00:22:52,398 --> 00:22:55,109 - Well, I'll see what I can do. - Here's what I need. 452 00:22:55,192 --> 00:22:59,280 Sit in my office, don't chew too loud, and collect your paycheck. 453 00:22:59,363 --> 00:23:00,740 Then, when the show comes out, 454 00:23:00,823 --> 00:23:02,908 people will see your name in the credits and say, 455 00:23:02,992 --> 00:23:06,871 "Huh, a lady worked on the show. Guess it's not sexist." 456 00:23:06,954 --> 00:23:09,707 - I can contribute more than that. - Not necessary. 457 00:23:09,790 --> 00:23:14,003 Hey, thanks for being here. You're really making a difference. 458 00:23:14,086 --> 00:23:15,838 Uh... 459 00:23:21,886 --> 00:23:24,180 - Hello, Diane. - Jesus Christ! 460 00:23:24,263 --> 00:23:25,681 I locked the doors this time! 461 00:23:25,765 --> 00:23:28,559 I broke your window, because I needed to talk to you. 462 00:23:28,642 --> 00:23:31,687 - I have a phone! - You were right about Vance. 463 00:23:31,771 --> 00:23:35,691 He just got fired off his new movie after a drunken rant about the Chinese, 464 00:23:35,775 --> 00:23:39,612 and then plowed his Hummer into the side of the Grauman's Egyptian Theatre. 465 00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:43,282 - Not the... Chinese Theatre? - Mhm. 466 00:23:43,365 --> 00:23:47,244 Anyway, his career is over, for about two or three years, 467 00:23:47,328 --> 00:23:49,038 - and then he'll be fine again. - Yeah. 468 00:23:49,121 --> 00:23:52,792 Listen, I'm sorry, the last time I saw you I made things kind of personal. 469 00:23:52,875 --> 00:23:55,961 No, no. You were right. We give these men cover. 470 00:23:56,045 --> 00:23:57,296 And if we give them cover, 471 00:23:57,379 --> 00:23:59,465 we should know exactly what they're capable of. 472 00:23:59,548 --> 00:24:02,426 In fact, I wanted to share this with you... 473 00:24:02,510 --> 00:24:04,637 woman to woman. 474 00:24:05,012 --> 00:24:07,515 She just walked in at the worst possible... 475 00:24:07,765 --> 00:24:11,143 - It wasn't my fault... right? - What is this? 476 00:24:11,227 --> 00:24:13,604 - ...what you're talking about. - On the boat. 477 00:24:13,687 --> 00:24:14,980 There was a girl. 478 00:24:15,314 --> 00:24:17,274 - What? - In New Mexico. 479 00:24:17,942 --> 00:24:19,985 - And she trusted me. - Wha...? 480 00:24:20,069 --> 00:24:21,445 I keep asking myself, 481 00:24:21,529 --> 00:24:24,448 if her mother didn't walk in, would I have done it? 482 00:24:24,532 --> 00:24:27,201 And part of me is sure that I... I couldn't. 483 00:24:28,702 --> 00:24:31,038 But another part knows that's a lie. 484 00:24:31,997 --> 00:24:34,187 How do you make it right when you've made it so wrong, 485 00:24:34,188 --> 00:24:35,334 you can never go back? 486 00:24:39,255 --> 00:24:41,590 sync & correction by f1nc0 ~ Addic7ed.com ~ 41895

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