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["Nemesis" playing]
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{\an8}Good morning.
Welcome back and thank you for joining us.
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{\an8}While we are still reeling
from the shock of last week,
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{\an8}today is a very special day
here at The Morning Show
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{\an8}because of this gal
sitting right next to me.
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{\an8}Uh-oh. Wait, wait, hold on a second.
Where is she? Bradley?
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- ["Stronger" plays]
- [director] Send her in. Take four.
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Now. Go, go, go.
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Oh.
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- [director] Stand by, one. Take it, one.
- [Alex] Bradley Jackson.
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You're not going to have a heart attack.
You're not.
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I feel so empowered. Do I look empowered?
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- I feel empowered.
- You look great.
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- Hello, Bradley.
- Hey there. [laughs]
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"God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change."
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{\an8}-Oh, my gosh. Wow!
- Come on. Sit up on your throne.
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{\an8}-[both laugh]
- This is amazing. Okay.
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{\an8}Something about Kelly's pipes makes you
feel like you can do anything. Am I right?
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{\an8}You are absolutely right.
I love me some Kelly.
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{\an8}But, listen, Miss Bradley,
this is about you right now.
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{\an8}You have arrived.
Welcome, Bradley Jackson.
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{\an8}Thank you so much, Alex.
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{\an8}Wow, I can't even begin to express
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{\an8}how thrilled I am to be sitting
in this iconic studio next to you.
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{\an8}-Aww.
- Talk about dreams come true.
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{\an8}I am living proof that
that is more than just a cliché.
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{\an8}I've been watching this show
since I was toddling around in a onesie.
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[Alex] Oh, my gosh.
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To be sitting side-by-side with you.
I mean, somebody pinch me.
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Oh, well, let me just tell you
the feeling is mutual.
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When we did our interview last week,
I just felt this instant connection.
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Fucking bitch.
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- [Bradley] Yes, I had the same feeling.
- [Alex] Yeah.
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Journalistic kismet or something.
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Oh, I like that. Yes.
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Like when you go on a first date
and it just sparks so easily...
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Does this feel like total,
bland bullshit to you?
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You mean, does it feel like the show? Yes.
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{\an8}-[Alex] Oh.
- Very single.
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{\an8}Not for long. Not for long.
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{\an8}So, what would we consider this to be?
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{\an8}I guess our...
Would this be our second date?
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{\an8}Well, I don't want to scare you, Alex,
but I think we've already moved in.
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{\an8}-Oh, my gosh, that was fast.
- [both laugh]
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[chuckles] Well, here's hoping
you get to the bedroom soon.
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{\an8}We have a little surprise for you,
Bradley.
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{\an8}-You do?
- Yes, we do.
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- All set with the feed?
- Ready to go.
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And for our audience,
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Bradley's mom is checking in on us
from West Virginia.
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{\an8}Sandy Jackson, are you there?
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Hi there. Hello, everybody.
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Hello, Sandy.
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Hi, Mom.
I'm on The Morning Show. How about this?
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I'm just so proud.
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Well, as you should be.
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Bradley is pretty amazing.
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{\an8}What was it like watching her grow up?
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{\an8}Oh, it was just wonderful.
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{\an8}She was always so smart and sassy
and funny and just so much fun.
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{\an8}It was a wonderful time for our family,
and so much love and happiness.
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{\an8}And we always knew
that Bradley was something special.
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{\an8}-You were always a great mom.
- Aww.
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{\an8}Sandy, when did you first start seeing
Bradley's potential?
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{\an8}Oh, very early on.
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{\an8}She was always the smartest in her class
and worked so hard at everything she did.
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She wrote for the school paper.
Won every spelling bee.
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Helped out at the soup kitchen.
And was always ready to lend me a hand.
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We cooked together every night.
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{\an8}Just such a happy time for our family.
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You better get your shit together, girl,
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or you're gonna end up
sucking dicks under the promenade.
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[Alex] Well, family is everything.
Isn't it, Sandy?
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Family is a whole lot of things.
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Oh, hey, and I hear
that you put together a little clip
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of Bradley growing up
that you would like to share.
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{\an8}Yes, I did.
I worked on it really late last night.
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- [director] Ready X.
- Should we roll it?
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Let's do it, America.
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- [director] Roll X, take X.
- Let's do it.
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[upbeat country music plays]
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[Alex sniffs, clears throat]
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- I feel like I'm at my own wake.
- Mm.
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Producers did a really good job with this.
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They changed the script on my mother.
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Did they?
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Yes. The one they showed me
reflected some sort of reality.
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This is just based on a snow globe.
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It was flat.
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- Do not overreact. Just go with it.
- [floor director] And we're back.
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- Five, four...
- You'll get used to this.
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[floor director] ...three, two...
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So great to meet your mom, Bradley.
And what an amazing place you grew up in.
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Yes, West Virginia is amazing.
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You know, it wasn't all as perfect
as that made it seem.
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She's going off script.
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Well, that's what America loves about you,
Bradley.
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You're real.
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{\an8}Yeah, just to be real,
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{\an8}I don't want young women out there
watching the show to think
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{\an8}you have to have some perfect childhood
to be successful.
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{\an8}Right.
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[Bradley] There were hard times,
and I did a lot of stupid things.
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Oh, of course. We all did.
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Yeah, yeah, no. I'm not talking about
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just accepting a dare to jump off
the roof of a barn, 'cause I did that.
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You know, I got suspended multiple times.
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I cost my high school track team
a championship
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because I got caught with alcohol on me.
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Heck, had an abortion
when I was 15 years old.
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I...
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- Oh, she did not.
- Oh, my God.
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I...
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Mother of fuck!
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Yes.
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Bradley had an abortion?
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Oh, Jesus.
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That's a lot... for a 15-year-old.
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Yeah, it was. It was.
And that's what I mean.
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Life is hard
and people get through things and...
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Let's go to weather.
We're evacuating this shitshow.
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Somebody get Yanko to the stage
right fucking now.
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It's not just sunshine and roses.
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Get me Cory Ellison!
Get me Charlie Black now!
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- But you can grow.
- Mm.
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- Twitter's fucking blowing up.
- Should we cut it for the West Coast feed?
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We can't. The women's groups
are going to skewer us if we cut it.
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What do we do?
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Leave it in.
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Go to Yanko now.
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What shaped me
and gave me my view of the world.
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Because this is my day
to introduce myself to America, right?
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Yes.
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I just thought I should be transparent
with them, with you guys.
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[Alex] You certainly have been.
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And thank you for opening up, Bradley.
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Yanko. Go, go! Okay, throw to Yanko.
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All right, let's get an update
on the weather, Yanko.
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What is today looking like?
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{\an8}Amazing. Amazing.
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{\an8}Grab the kids. Head to the park this week.
It is gonna be sunny days, folks.
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It's gonna be beautiful. But don't forget
to put a sun hat on that baby, okay?
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And lather up that sunscreen.
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SPF 30 and over,
especially for the little ones.
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Somebody get in Yanko's ear
and tell him no more kid references.
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Entire weekend.
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If you don't have kids,
you should also wear sunscreen.
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Can you pull something out from later
in the week and fill the time with it?
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Let's put Alison and the Marcus Samuelsson
cooking segment along with Alex,
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and you guys just rework it.
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Make it work. Lighten it up.
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Chip, maybe it was a slipup.
It's her first day.
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That was not a slipup.
That was deliberate.
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We are minimizing her
for the rest of the show. No more risk.
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I do not want Bradley Jackson near
anything where she can say anything
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about anything
that isn't air fucking tight!
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- Chip!
- What?
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I have Fred on the phone
and he says he needs to talk to...
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Tell Fred to go fuck himself! Thank you!
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As most of you in DC know.
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This year, I'm happy to report,
the festival will go on sans rain.
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And to all my sailor friends,
down in Norfolk,
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if you're gonna throw a few back this
weekend, make sure you throw on that zinc.
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Friends in the south, on the other hand,
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they're gonna be seeing clouds rolling in
throughout the entire weekend.
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It looks like the sun won't be
showing itself there till Tuesday morning.
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And that's what's happening
across the country, folks.
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Let's see how it's looking where you live.
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And we're out.
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Did you fuck up just now,
or was that intentional?
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[backstage chatter]
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I don't actually know.
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[chatter continues]
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She's a Category Five.
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I think she's amazing.
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[chatter]
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[sighs]
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[knock at door]
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I'll come back in a bit.
We're gonna have a talk.
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[Bradley] Okay.
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[Fred] It's been less than a minute,
we've already had two advertisers call
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and pull their spots for tomorrow.
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I know. It's a mess.
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We'll have to figure out
how to manage the fallout.
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No. You have to figure out how
to manage the fucking fallout!
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This is on you, Cory!
It's your failed goddamn experiment!
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I said she was a mistake.
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She was untested and unpredictable
and unvetted, and I was right.
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She barely made it ten minutes
without announcing
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her teenage fucking abortion
to Middle America.
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[female reporter] Bradley Jackson's
revelation has gone viral
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and sparked a national firestorm.
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The Pro-Life Action League issued
a condemnation of UBA
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and The Morning Show,
while Planned Parenthood tweeted that...
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- Okay, can you just turn that off, please?
- [driver] Sure.
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[groans]
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Oh, God. Oh, fuck, fuck, fuck me.
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Fuck me. Fuck, fuck, fuck. Shit, shit.
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Okay, okay.
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Well, I'm sorry. It's the truth.
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[Sandy] I can't believe that happened
when you were 15.
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Did you just make that up
to be controversial?
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No, I didn't make it up!
Jesus, why would I do that?
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You should have told me.
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I could have had a grandchild.
I could have raised it.
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Oh, 'cause you did such a great job
with me and Hal?
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You think I'd bring that kind of problem
into our crazy environment?
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Our house?
You think I would possibly do that?
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- You don't understand!
- [line disconnects]
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Fuck.
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[sighs]
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[inhales sharply]
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[crying]
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Fuck.
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[alarm beeps]
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{\an8}Oh, my God.
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[sighs]
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Oh.
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Oh, God.
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[sighs]
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Good morning, Bradley.
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Get in the car.
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Okay.
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[Bradley] So, is this the part where you
take me out to a warehouse and shoot me?
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[Alex] Worse.
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I'm taking you down to the studio.
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You're gonna get back on that horse,
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and you're gonna do the show
like yesterday never happened.
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This is a really fucked-up job.
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Yeah. All jobs are fucked up.
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You do things
you don't necessarily choose to do
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in exchange for relevance and money,
and you cannot let it kill you.
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Why are you even talking to me right now?
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I am talking to you, Bradley,
because I have to make this work.
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I chose you,
and everything is on the line for me.
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And I-I can't let this beat me.
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"This" meaning me? My mouth?
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Who I am at my very core?
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- Those things?
- Yes.
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If you want to put it that way,
you can put it however way you want.
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But we are gonna win this.
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You can escape. You know that, right?
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The people in America
don't know that you chose me.
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They can just blame the network
when I get fired.
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No. Mm-mm. People on the inside know.
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Chip knows. Cory Ellison knows.
Fred Micklen knows.
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Motherfuckers.
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Those motherfuckers.
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And I am not gonna let them
walk away thinking they were right.
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I would die first.
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[sighs]
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Okay.
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I understand.
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I'll try.
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Good. Thank you.
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{\an8}Okay, before we jump into
today's top stories,
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{\an8}Bradley, I know that you wanted
to address America yourself.
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{\an8}-Yes. Thank you, Alex.
- Of course.
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{\an8}I understand that many of you
were insulted yesterday
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{\an8}when I referenced
an abortion I had as a teen.
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{\an8}While I am not sorry
for the life choices I've made,
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{\an8}I'm very sorry
for so casually discussing an issue
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{\an8}that is so personal to many Americans.
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{\an8}I promise
that as I embark on my new role here,
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I will work hard every day
to earn your forgiveness,
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as well as your trust and support.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Well said, Bradley.
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Well, it comes from my heart.
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[floor director]
And we're out. Back in two minutes.
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No. No, she is not interviewing
the Mitch victim.
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[Cory]
Well, Fred, that's an extreme reaction.
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She's popping. You can't deny that.
Her ratings for Monday...
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Of course the ratings were strong.
We promoted the shit out of it.
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But after what she did yesterday? No.
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I would like to point out that no one
is talking about Mitch right now.
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Oh, that's our standard?
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Getting fucked by a new scandal
so the old one pulls out?
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What Bradley did yesterday
was core shaking.
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It undercuts our integrity in
an entirely different way than Mitch did.
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UBA has a reputation as a fair
and impartial actor in the news business,
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and in one fucking sentence
she politicized us.
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Bradley is interviewing Ashley Brown
on Friday.
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- I beg your pardon?
- We have already run the promos.
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We did a big end-of-the-week blitz.
That's got a hook. It's compelling.
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Bradley will bring authenticity,
transparency, to the interview,
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which is what we need right now.
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We cannot look like
we just changed our minds.
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We've got to stay bold. God.
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[Alex sighs]
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We can respond to what happened yesterday
by taking the interview away.
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It'll actually look
like someone's running things.
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[Cory]
All right, Fred, here it is. Listen.
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Half the country hates her,
but half the country loves her.
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We pull her from the Ashley interview
mid-promotional stream,
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those lefty blogs are gonna shoot their
condescending, politically correct wad
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all over the Internet's fucking face.
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Before you know it, we become an example
of everything that they stand against.
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The powerful patriarchy silencing a woman
for talking about her uterus.
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And Woke Twitter will never forgive us.
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You sound like an asshole
when you say "Woke Twitter."
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- You know that?
- [laughs] I did. I heard it. I know.
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Look, Fred,
we have already course corrected here.
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Why don't we
just give this a chance to work?
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Because we're still bleeding advertisers.
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They'll come back. They always do.
Especially if the ratings are up.
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[Cory]
It's the beauty of capitalism, right?
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In one day,
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Bradley Jackson re-branded morning news
as personal, unexpected, exciting.
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You should be thanking her.
And you will be.
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Now let's just everybody calm down
and get on this ride.
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It's gonna be a good one.
Bradley Jackson is going to save us.
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That's why I picked her.
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You're welcome.
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{\an8}[male announcer]
Friday, a Morning Show exclusive.
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{\an8}Former TMS staffer, Ashley Brown,
sits down with Bradley Jackson live
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{\an8}to discuss Brown's accusations
against Mitch Kessler.
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{\an8}A no-holds-barred interview
you don't want to miss.
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Only on The Morning Show.
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Mia.
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Bradley's still doing the interview,
but let's prepare our contingency plan.
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- Fred is like a ticking bomb right now.
- [Rena clears throat]
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- What?
- She's here.
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- She's here. Great.
- Wait, who's here?
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It's the investigator that
the network hired from Stern and Young.
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Can't we delay that?
This week is already insane.
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It's optics. We can't wait.
Look, it's gonna be fine.
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We just need to be careful.
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More is gonna come out about Mitch.
That is inevitable.
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And we need to have each other's backs
so we can survive,
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then we will right the ship.
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We need to... protect that.
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Protect the show.
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Yes. "Protect the show." Thank you.
336
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My name is Vicki Manderly.
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I'm from Stern and Young
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and I'm going to be heading up
the investigation on Mitch Kessler.
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I will be having private conversations
with you all, individually.
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I don't want you to feel scared or anxious
about any of this, okay?
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We're just talking.
It is all confidential. You are safe.
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I'm only here to try and understand
the culture at The Morning Show
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that allowed Mitch Kessler's
inappropriate behavior to go unchecked.
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We want to find out
where the blind spots are.
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So we can work together
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to make this a safe,
highly-functioning workplace for everyone.
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So whatever you can do
to help facilitate this process
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would be greatly appreciated.
349
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You got it, Vicki. We're here to help,
so... whatever you need.
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[chuckles]
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The fact that he actually screwed around
with people on the show?
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I mean, yes, there was gossip,
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but I never let myself believe
that it was actually true.
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[Vicki] Mm.
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What about now, post Mitch?
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Do you think this is an environment
that condones sexual misconduct,
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inappropriate sexual relationships?
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Do you know of any misconduct?
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No, God, no. No, not at all. None.
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{\an8}[man] They actually did a good thing for
once and hired a conservative.
361
00:20:24,766 --> 00:20:27,556
{\an8}But now, of course, they're just using her
to push their agenda.
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{\an8}[woman] How?
She just stated that she had an abortion.
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{\an8}[woman 2] They're sending the message
that Planned Parenthood
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{\an8}and other organizations
that are funded by our government...
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00:20:33,984 --> 00:20:38,074
They're completely missing the point.
She's not a conservative or a liberal.
366
00:20:38,155 --> 00:20:40,865
No. No, she's a performance artist.
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00:20:40,949 --> 00:20:44,369
It's like watching somebody burn
the American flag every single morning.
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00:20:44,453 --> 00:20:46,333
But less political and more controversial.
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I know. Isn't it great?
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[laughs]
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00:20:50,876 --> 00:20:55,006
Well, yeah, if you think
watching a star explode into a supernova
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and leave a black hole in its place
is great.
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- I do.
- Well, yeah, of course you do.
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[laughs]
You get me, don't you? I love that.
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00:21:10,437 --> 00:21:11,437
[Claire moans]
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00:21:12,105 --> 00:21:13,815
- Hey, hey.
- Mm-hmm.
377
00:21:15,526 --> 00:21:16,646
Claire, wait, wait.
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00:21:16,735 --> 00:21:20,905
- What?
- Did I do those things to you?
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What things?
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00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:27,580
You know, those... Like what Mitch did.
Did I do that to you?
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00:21:27,663 --> 00:21:28,713
Oh, God.
382
00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:33,789
You think because you're older than me
and technically my superior at work,
383
00:21:33,877 --> 00:21:37,587
I can't have decided to fuck you
without being taken advantage of?
384
00:21:38,090 --> 00:21:40,130
What, because you're the big,
powerful weatherman,
385
00:21:40,217 --> 00:21:42,177
I lose all agency in my sexual choices?
386
00:21:42,261 --> 00:21:43,641
I don't know.
387
00:21:46,014 --> 00:21:50,104
I mean,
I know what I feel when I'm with you.
388
00:21:50,185 --> 00:21:53,555
I know what I feel
when it's just you and me.
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00:21:55,607 --> 00:21:58,817
I don't need anything but you, so...
390
00:21:58,902 --> 00:22:01,202
- Are you answering your own question?
- I'm not.
391
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,410
Claire, the investigator kept talking
about power imbalances
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and inequitable sexual dynamics.
393
00:22:06,285 --> 00:22:08,115
- That's this... That's us.
- Yanko, darling.
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00:22:08,912 --> 00:22:13,582
My family could buy and sell you
and your entire family tree
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a dozen times over.
396
00:22:15,544 --> 00:22:17,554
My father has nothing to do with UBA,
397
00:22:17,629 --> 00:22:20,049
but he could still have you fired
with one phone call.
398
00:22:20,966 --> 00:22:22,856
If there's a power imbalance
in this relationship,
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it's the one I have over you.
400
00:22:27,806 --> 00:22:29,136
[giggles]
401
00:22:33,437 --> 00:22:36,477
And I don't plan to stop
taking advantage of you anytime soon,
402
00:22:36,565 --> 00:22:40,685
so you better find another outlet
for this bullshit you're peddling.
403
00:22:40,777 --> 00:22:41,777
[laughs]
404
00:22:42,529 --> 00:22:43,859
Okay.
405
00:22:43,947 --> 00:22:45,567
It's just you and me, okay?
406
00:22:45,657 --> 00:22:46,657
- Okay.
- Yeah.
407
00:22:50,829 --> 00:22:52,459
[alarm beeps]
408
00:22:53,498 --> 00:22:54,578
{\an8}[sighs]
409
00:22:56,752 --> 00:22:58,052
[exhales]
410
00:22:59,505 --> 00:23:00,835
And when we come back,
411
00:23:00,923 --> 00:23:06,303
W Magazine accessories director of
our favorite sunglass guru, Delilah Frye,
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00:23:06,386 --> 00:23:08,846
shows us
the hottest new trends for summer.
413
00:23:08,931 --> 00:23:12,391
{\an8}I am so excited for that.
I moved here, and I forgot my sunglasses.
414
00:23:12,476 --> 00:23:14,306
{\an8}-What were you thinking?
- I don't know.
415
00:23:14,394 --> 00:23:16,694
{\an8}Don't worry.
Delilah's gonna take care of that for you.
416
00:23:16,772 --> 00:23:17,862
{\an8}Well, I can't wait.
417
00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:21,110
{\an8}And later in the hour,
Alison and I will sit down with the author
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00:23:21,193 --> 00:23:23,033
{\an8}of the newest "ya" sensation.
419
00:23:25,739 --> 00:23:26,819
{\an8}[chuckles]
420
00:23:26,907 --> 00:23:30,657
{\an8}Excuse me. I meant to say "YA sensation."
421
00:23:31,828 --> 00:23:32,998
{\an8}Okay there, Bradley?
422
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,250
{\an8}I know I'm "ya."
423
00:23:35,332 --> 00:23:38,842
{\an8}I'm okay, but I'm sorry
'cause I'm so tired right now,
424
00:23:38,919 --> 00:23:40,129
I can barely see straight.
425
00:23:40,212 --> 00:23:41,452
[Alex] All right, we're a mess.
426
00:23:41,505 --> 00:23:44,755
{\an8}We need to sleep tonight so we can pull it
together for Kelly Clarkson tomorrow.
427
00:23:44,842 --> 00:23:47,052
{\an8}Oh, my gosh, Kelly is going to be here.
428
00:23:47,135 --> 00:23:49,595
{\an8}-What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
- That's right.
429
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,850
{\an8}-I'm the biggest Kelly Clarkson fan.
- I know you are.
430
00:23:51,932 --> 00:23:54,522
- I'm probably not gonna sleep tonight.
- You need to sleep.
431
00:23:54,601 --> 00:23:57,401
We'll cover your sleepy eyes
with Delilah's sunglasses.
432
00:23:57,479 --> 00:23:58,689
She'll take care of that.
433
00:23:58,772 --> 00:24:00,692
Her summer styles are up next.
434
00:24:00,774 --> 00:24:04,824
And later, Alison and I are going to talk
to Allegra Jameson about her new book.
435
00:24:04,903 --> 00:24:06,953
{\an8}So don't go away.
436
00:24:07,030 --> 00:24:09,990
- My body, my choice!
- Abortion stops a beating heart.
437
00:24:10,075 --> 00:24:12,365
Oh, my God, this isn't going away, is it?
438
00:24:12,452 --> 00:24:16,582
Two news cycles and counting.
The moon landing only gets one in 2019.
439
00:24:16,957 --> 00:24:19,247
She'll be the death of us all.
Or at least Alex and Chip.
440
00:24:19,334 --> 00:24:21,174
Over my dead body.
441
00:24:21,253 --> 00:24:23,553
Actually, nobody up there
would even notice my dead body.
442
00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:27,010
They'd just have to step over
my rotting corpse to do the show.
443
00:24:27,092 --> 00:24:30,132
This place runs on human sacrifice.
We'll all end up on the altar eventually.
444
00:24:34,224 --> 00:24:38,984
No. No, I never saw or heard anything.
445
00:24:40,522 --> 00:24:42,692
Why? Did someone say that I did?
446
00:24:42,774 --> 00:24:45,744
I never slept with him.
That Page Six article was bullshit.
447
00:24:45,819 --> 00:24:50,699
Mitch was a flirt, pretty good one.
I am too, to be fair. So is Alex.
448
00:24:50,782 --> 00:24:53,372
Mm, I've only been here about 18 months,
449
00:24:53,452 --> 00:24:55,682
so I'm probably not the best person
to speak to the culture
450
00:24:55,704 --> 00:24:57,714
over a long period of time,
451
00:24:57,789 --> 00:25:01,339
but everything I've observed
has been aboveboard.
452
00:25:01,418 --> 00:25:05,008
Honestly, I liked having him around.
He was fun. I miss him.
453
00:25:06,423 --> 00:25:08,303
[male anchor]
Next, we have an inspiring story
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coming out of Mississippi,
455
00:25:09,718 --> 00:25:11,838
where high school girls
are walking out of class today
456
00:25:11,887 --> 00:25:15,887
to show their support for Bradley Jackson,
the new coanchor of The Morning Show,
457
00:25:15,974 --> 00:25:18,194
after the governor
tried to reintroduce legislation
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{\an8}-that would ban abortions after six weeks.
- [students chanting]
459
00:25:20,521 --> 00:25:24,071
{\an8}This action comes after a controversial
comment he made earlier this week
460
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:27,989
{\an8}calling The Morning Show's Bradley Jackson
"a dangerous threat to America."
461
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:31,280
{\an8}Mississippi already has some of
the nation's strictest abortion laws.
462
00:25:31,365 --> 00:25:34,945
{\an8}In southern parts of the state,
walkouts have lasted nearly six hours,
463
00:25:35,035 --> 00:25:37,075
which represents
how long it would take a student
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to drive to the state's
only remaining abortion clinic.
465
00:25:39,831 --> 00:25:41,541
[female anchor]
This footage is remarkable.
466
00:25:41,625 --> 00:25:43,515
[male anchor]
The power of social media on display.
467
00:25:43,544 --> 00:25:45,384
[female anchor]
Not to mention Bradley Jackson.
468
00:25:45,462 --> 00:25:48,972
Her comment has lit a fire
under the abortion debate nationwide.
469
00:25:49,049 --> 00:25:50,989
[male anchor]
And the governor's attempt to use Jackson
470
00:25:51,009 --> 00:25:54,389
as a lightning rod to push his agenda
appears to have backfired.
471
00:25:54,471 --> 00:25:55,471
[female anchor] I agree.
472
00:25:55,556 --> 00:25:59,306
I'd also argue that these walkouts
go beyond just the abortion bill.
473
00:25:59,393 --> 00:26:02,193
They're happening because people
heard Bradley's story and thought,
474
00:26:02,271 --> 00:26:03,311
"That could be me.
475
00:26:03,397 --> 00:26:06,897
And I want to make my own choice
about my future like she did."
476
00:26:06,984 --> 00:26:09,554
[male anchor] Okay, we're now getting word
from our source on the ground
477
00:26:09,570 --> 00:26:11,530
that a staggering 37 school...
478
00:26:12,489 --> 00:26:14,029
[alarm beeps]
479
00:26:15,868 --> 00:26:18,828
{\an8}["Heat" plays]
480
00:26:19,246 --> 00:26:20,656
{\an8}[Kelly Clarkson singing]
481
00:26:23,584 --> 00:26:25,094
Stand by, three. Take it, three.
482
00:26:42,853 --> 00:26:43,853
[Bradley laughs]
483
00:26:43,937 --> 00:26:45,727
Come on.
Bradley Jackson, get on over here.
484
00:26:45,814 --> 00:26:48,654
- Oh, my God, me?
- Go, yes. Go, go.
485
00:26:48,734 --> 00:26:50,694
- [cheering]
- Okay. Coming.
486
00:26:51,612 --> 00:26:54,492
{\an8}All right, girl, I know
that it has been a crazy week.
487
00:26:54,573 --> 00:26:55,993
{\an8}-Oh, my gosh.
- All right?
488
00:26:56,074 --> 00:26:58,954
{\an8}But you are a truth teller,
Bradley Jackson.
489
00:26:59,036 --> 00:27:01,826
{\an8}You're honest,
I love you, and I stand with you.
490
00:27:01,914 --> 00:27:03,794
[Kelly]
All right, come on. Dance with me. Whoo!
491
00:27:04,833 --> 00:27:06,433
- [Kelly Clarkson singing]
- [Alex] Whoo!
492
00:27:18,013 --> 00:27:20,023
[man]
We've been growing steadily all week,
493
00:27:20,098 --> 00:27:21,978
especially in the 18-to-34 demo,
494
00:27:22,059 --> 00:27:24,599
which is hitting live numbers
we haven't seen in years.
495
00:27:33,111 --> 00:27:34,991
{\an8}[both singing]
496
00:27:37,908 --> 00:27:39,488
{\an8}Kelly Clarkson, everybody!
497
00:27:40,536 --> 00:27:43,996
{\an8}[Bradley] Thank you so much
for being here. You made my day.
498
00:27:44,831 --> 00:27:46,711
Thank you, everyone.
That's our show for today.
499
00:27:46,792 --> 00:27:48,542
Stay tuned for The Twist.
500
00:27:49,169 --> 00:27:50,589
The culture is fine.
501
00:27:51,046 --> 00:27:53,626
And as for Mitch, everyone loved him here.
502
00:27:54,550 --> 00:27:58,100
He lit up the room.
He made everyone feel like family.
503
00:27:58,428 --> 00:28:01,638
Well, I don't have a whole ton
to say about Mitch.
504
00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:04,889
He was the king of the world,
and he knew it.
505
00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:10,650
I saw the way he talked to people,
how he hugged women hello.
506
00:28:10,732 --> 00:28:12,942
Yeah, he just thought
he's pretty untouchable.
507
00:28:19,199 --> 00:28:22,909
There she is.
Kelly Clarkson's truth teller.
508
00:28:22,995 --> 00:28:27,245
[sighs] This is all just so weird.
Why are you here?
509
00:28:27,583 --> 00:28:31,043
I've got a meeting with Fred upstairs.
I just wanted to stop in and say hello.
510
00:28:32,212 --> 00:28:35,302
You going to join the chorus of people
telling me to keep behaving myself?
511
00:28:35,757 --> 00:28:37,087
Have you met me?
512
00:28:38,427 --> 00:28:39,967
Yes, I have.
513
00:28:40,053 --> 00:28:42,063
You know you're killing this, right?
514
00:28:42,139 --> 00:28:43,929
- Am I?
- Mm-hmm.
515
00:28:44,016 --> 00:28:45,176
I don't know.
516
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:49,350
Right now I'm just prepping
for this Ashley interview tomorrow.
517
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:51,440
Mm.
518
00:28:53,442 --> 00:28:56,282
God, is it ever strange
being in his old dressing room?
519
00:28:56,820 --> 00:29:01,200
I hardly have a chance to get used to it,
but... yeah, sometimes it's weird.
520
00:29:02,618 --> 00:29:05,038
I wonder what happened in here
on a regular basis.
521
00:29:07,331 --> 00:29:09,671
Yeah, I wonder that.
522
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,550
Between us, I also wonder who knew.
523
00:29:21,887 --> 00:29:25,017
All right, I'll leave you to it.
[chuckles]
524
00:29:35,192 --> 00:29:36,322
[exhales]
525
00:29:38,570 --> 00:29:39,570
[Alex] Come in.
526
00:29:42,533 --> 00:29:44,793
Hey, you got a minute?
527
00:29:45,244 --> 00:29:46,254
Sure.
528
00:29:47,538 --> 00:29:51,498
- I just wanted to say that...
- Oh, God, I'm fine.
529
00:29:52,042 --> 00:29:53,462
You don't have to do this.
530
00:29:53,544 --> 00:29:55,714
I literally didn't do anything yet.
531
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:58,550
We've known each other long enough, Chip.
532
00:29:58,966 --> 00:30:00,126
I know you know me.
533
00:30:01,218 --> 00:30:03,758
Kelly Clarkson likes Bradley
more than she likes me.
534
00:30:03,846 --> 00:30:06,096
- I'm gonna live.
- [chuckles]
535
00:30:07,057 --> 00:30:10,687
You know, obviously she's new.
She created a stir this week.
536
00:30:10,769 --> 00:30:13,899
- It's gonna die down soon.
- Why? We don't want it to die down.
537
00:30:13,981 --> 00:30:15,231
It's great.
538
00:30:17,317 --> 00:30:20,647
I mean, I made her, right?
539
00:30:20,737 --> 00:30:21,907
Yeah.
540
00:30:21,989 --> 00:30:25,829
I'm her Dr. Frankenstein.
She's my monster.
541
00:30:26,618 --> 00:30:30,788
And if I'm being honest,
she's actually exceeding my expectations.
542
00:30:30,873 --> 00:30:33,633
And listen, would I like a little credit?
543
00:30:34,585 --> 00:30:35,585
Sure.
544
00:30:36,003 --> 00:30:38,483
But that's also not surprising,
'cause people are disappointing,
545
00:30:38,505 --> 00:30:41,255
and you just can't let it get to you.
546
00:30:43,051 --> 00:30:46,971
- [sighs]
- Well, that is... I'm really proud of you.
547
00:30:47,055 --> 00:30:49,725
Oh, my God, stop.
548
00:30:49,808 --> 00:30:52,018
- What?
- It's embarrassing.
549
00:30:52,102 --> 00:30:55,022
You really don't do sincere emotion well.
It's kind of painful.
550
00:30:55,105 --> 00:30:57,315
Okay. All true.
551
00:30:57,399 --> 00:30:58,569
Yeah.
552
00:30:58,650 --> 00:30:59,860
Still, I'm...
553
00:31:01,486 --> 00:31:02,696
proud of you.
554
00:31:05,991 --> 00:31:07,241
Thank you.
555
00:31:09,786 --> 00:31:12,706
There's one little thing
I do want to run by you.
556
00:31:13,498 --> 00:31:14,708
- Um...
- Go on.
557
00:31:14,791 --> 00:31:16,671
- New York Magazine called.
- Mm-hmm.
558
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,760
Maggie Brener
wants to do a feature piece on Bradley.
559
00:31:24,301 --> 00:31:25,431
Maggie Brener?
560
00:31:26,970 --> 00:31:28,220
- [Alex] Hm.
- Mm-hmm.
561
00:31:30,098 --> 00:31:33,138
That's good. That's good.
562
00:31:34,311 --> 00:31:35,351
Mm-hmm.
563
00:31:36,188 --> 00:31:39,018
It really takes the focus
off Mitch being gone, huh?
564
00:31:41,235 --> 00:31:42,645
- Yeah, that's true.
- Yeah.
565
00:31:42,736 --> 00:31:44,356
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
566
00:31:49,785 --> 00:31:50,945
Well, okay.
567
00:32:06,343 --> 00:32:07,513
[door closes]
568
00:32:07,845 --> 00:32:09,215
[Vicki] So, he seduced you?
569
00:32:09,763 --> 00:32:11,853
It did not feel that way at the time.
570
00:32:13,225 --> 00:32:16,435
Uh, we had this easy working relationship
571
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,500
where we could
almost finish each other's sentences.
572
00:32:18,522 --> 00:32:19,982
He could read my mind.
573
00:32:21,942 --> 00:32:24,152
It became very attractive.
574
00:32:25,946 --> 00:32:28,616
And then he started
to talk about his marital issues.
575
00:32:29,324 --> 00:32:32,744
He and his wife fought all the time.
It was hard raising kids.
576
00:32:32,828 --> 00:32:34,658
They never had sex. On and on.
577
00:32:35,956 --> 00:32:37,826
Mitch was genuinely lonely.
578
00:32:38,876 --> 00:32:40,086
So was I.
579
00:32:41,378 --> 00:32:43,668
Our world was this job.
580
00:32:45,883 --> 00:32:48,223
[sighs] And he let me in.
581
00:32:49,928 --> 00:32:54,808
He created this intimacy
where I felt seen.
582
00:32:56,894 --> 00:33:01,444
Respected.
I admired him so much. He knew it.
583
00:33:02,441 --> 00:33:04,071
He knew it. And then...
584
00:33:06,820 --> 00:33:10,870
uh, we didn't sleep together
until right before the election.
585
00:33:13,243 --> 00:33:14,543
How long did it last?
586
00:33:14,620 --> 00:33:17,000
The affair? About a year.
587
00:33:18,624 --> 00:33:21,544
- And which one of you...
- Me. I ended it.
588
00:33:22,628 --> 00:33:23,628
Why?
589
00:33:24,796 --> 00:33:26,256
It got too complicated.
590
00:33:27,841 --> 00:33:29,431
And what about after?
591
00:33:29,927 --> 00:33:32,467
- "After?"
- After you broke up with him.
592
00:33:32,971 --> 00:33:37,141
What was it like for you?
Were there any repercussions?
593
00:33:37,226 --> 00:33:40,186
No. Not at all.
We were perfectly professional.
594
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,230
This is a lot to carry with you.
595
00:33:44,066 --> 00:33:46,106
I understand
why you decided to tell the Times.
596
00:33:46,735 --> 00:33:47,945
What? No.
597
00:33:48,529 --> 00:33:50,489
No. I did not leak it to the Times.
598
00:33:50,572 --> 00:33:54,412
Oh. You didn't? Oh, I'm sorry. I just...
599
00:33:54,952 --> 00:33:58,082
Since you made the complaint to HR
a week before his termination,
600
00:33:58,163 --> 00:34:00,183
the one that the network
was investigating, I assumed...
601
00:34:00,207 --> 00:34:03,537
I made a complaint 'cause I couldn't stand
watching Mitch report on Me Too anymore
602
00:34:03,627 --> 00:34:06,457
with that empathetic, dad-next-door smile.
603
00:34:06,547 --> 00:34:08,087
That had to end.
604
00:34:08,757 --> 00:34:12,337
But it was never my intention
that he get fired.
605
00:34:14,346 --> 00:34:16,276
[Vicki]
I won't get into specifics over the phone,
606
00:34:16,306 --> 00:34:18,346
but, so far, you're safe.
607
00:34:18,433 --> 00:34:20,643
Nobody's implicated the show
or the network yet.
608
00:34:20,726 --> 00:34:21,726
Just Mitch.
609
00:34:21,812 --> 00:34:24,192
Okay, good. What's the next move?
610
00:34:24,273 --> 00:34:26,283
I conduct my investigation.
Talk to everyone.
611
00:34:26,358 --> 00:34:29,358
Find out where you're vulnerable.
You're not out of the woods yet.
612
00:34:29,444 --> 00:34:31,704
- All right. Keep me posted.
- Mm-hmm.
613
00:34:37,995 --> 00:34:40,495
{\an8}[male announcer] Tomorrow.
Bradley Jackson's live sit-down
614
00:34:40,581 --> 00:34:43,081
{\an8}with former TMS staffer Ashley Brown.
615
00:34:43,166 --> 00:34:46,296
{\an8}The painful truth
about the Mitch Kessler no one knew.
616
00:34:46,378 --> 00:34:48,548
The interview
everyone will be talking about.
617
00:34:48,630 --> 00:34:50,150
- Only on The Morning Show.
- [exhales]
618
00:34:50,841 --> 00:34:54,091
Well, shit. That feels
sort of incongruous, doesn't it?
619
00:34:54,178 --> 00:34:55,548
What? What's incongruous?
620
00:34:55,637 --> 00:34:57,807
What they're selling
and what we're prepping.
621
00:34:58,557 --> 00:35:01,267
No. Marketing is doing their job.
We need eyeballs.
622
00:35:01,351 --> 00:35:03,561
I just hope
we don't disappoint a lot of eyeballs.
623
00:35:03,645 --> 00:35:05,205
This thing could backfire on us, you know.
624
00:35:05,230 --> 00:35:07,820
This is a strong interview, Bradley.
Ashley is ready.
625
00:35:07,900 --> 00:35:09,740
Which is not something
I could say a week ago.
626
00:35:09,818 --> 00:35:11,278
We have done good work.
627
00:35:11,361 --> 00:35:12,821
Yeah. I guess so.
628
00:35:12,905 --> 00:35:16,525
I just can't help but feel like
it's a little bit safe.
629
00:35:16,617 --> 00:35:18,537
"Safe"? What are you... It's not "safe."
630
00:35:18,619 --> 00:35:20,789
Yeah. Safe. Soft.
631
00:35:20,871 --> 00:35:23,961
Ashley and Mitch
have this flirtatious workplace dynamic.
632
00:35:24,416 --> 00:35:26,126
Mitch pushes it too far.
633
00:35:26,210 --> 00:35:28,210
It never crosses the line,
634
00:35:28,295 --> 00:35:31,085
but Ashley feels all this pressure,
and she quits.
635
00:35:31,173 --> 00:35:33,553
- That's it?
- Yeah, that's not nothing.
636
00:35:33,634 --> 00:35:35,644
No, it's not nothing. It's awful.
637
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,309
And I give her so much credit
for coming back on the show.
638
00:35:39,389 --> 00:35:43,189
I just can't help but feel
like I'm pushing someone else's agenda.
639
00:35:43,268 --> 00:35:46,938
No, no, no. You're helping
to tell Ashley's story. Her truth.
640
00:35:47,022 --> 00:35:48,732
Well, it's a truth.
641
00:35:48,815 --> 00:35:51,735
It's a truth that's been poked
and prodded and vetted
642
00:35:51,818 --> 00:35:56,028
by rooms full of lawyers and executives
and crisis management specialists,
643
00:35:56,114 --> 00:35:58,914
all trying to minimize the damage
to the network.
644
00:35:58,992 --> 00:36:02,452
And, you know,
UBA's exposure here is very low.
645
00:36:02,538 --> 00:36:05,228
Otherwise they would never let this
interview happen. You and I know that.
646
00:36:05,249 --> 00:36:06,249
Okay, okay.
647
00:36:06,333 --> 00:36:09,213
It's like the illusion of transparency
without any of the actual risk.
648
00:36:09,294 --> 00:36:12,054
Okay, fine. You're not wrong.
UBA is a business. Right?
649
00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:14,480
They're not gonna stab themselves
in the face for the greater good.
650
00:36:14,508 --> 00:36:15,508
Right.
651
00:36:15,592 --> 00:36:18,142
But it doesn't mean this interview
isn't important.
652
00:36:18,220 --> 00:36:19,890
Ashley's experience is common.
653
00:36:19,972 --> 00:36:24,852
It's, um, sexual misconduct
at an insidiously routine level.
654
00:36:24,935 --> 00:36:25,975
That shit matters.
655
00:36:26,854 --> 00:36:28,154
It's relatable.
656
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:30,270
It's gonna mean something to our audience.
657
00:36:32,651 --> 00:36:33,941
Okay.
658
00:36:34,027 --> 00:36:36,947
- I hope you're right.
- No, look. I'm totally right.
659
00:36:37,364 --> 00:36:40,584
Look, you had a long week.
It's been a bumpy ride.
660
00:36:41,702 --> 00:36:42,702
But you've done great.
661
00:36:42,786 --> 00:36:46,286
You're coming out of this strong as shit,
so let's just focus.
662
00:36:46,373 --> 00:36:48,043
Bring this one home. Okay?
663
00:36:48,125 --> 00:36:49,125
Okay.
664
00:36:49,835 --> 00:36:50,915
I hear you.
665
00:36:59,386 --> 00:37:00,846
[alarm beeps]
666
00:37:13,275 --> 00:37:14,875
[director] Let's go right to camera two.
667
00:37:15,319 --> 00:37:17,359
- [Chip] So, just, no jib.
- [director] Yeah.
668
00:37:17,779 --> 00:37:19,719
- [Chip] I'm fine with that.
- [Cory] Hi, everybody.
669
00:37:19,740 --> 00:37:23,040
Wow. TGIF, am I right? What a week! Oof.
670
00:37:23,118 --> 00:37:24,698
Look who it is. It's Cory.
671
00:37:24,786 --> 00:37:27,456
Big, big day.
I wanted to catch the show live.
672
00:37:27,539 --> 00:37:29,419
- How are you doing?
- Oh, yeah. Welcome.
673
00:37:29,499 --> 00:37:30,879
- Thank you.
- Yes.
674
00:37:32,461 --> 00:37:33,751
Did you know he was coming?
675
00:37:33,837 --> 00:37:36,047
No fucking clue. [laughs]
676
00:37:36,715 --> 00:37:40,005
{\an8}And when we come back,
I sit down with Ashley Brown,
677
00:37:40,093 --> 00:37:43,513
{\an8}a former Morning Show staffer
with an emotional story to tell
678
00:37:43,597 --> 00:37:46,517
{\an8}about her experiences with Mitch Kessler.
679
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,600
{\an8}Stay with us.
680
00:37:48,936 --> 00:37:51,356
[floor director]
And we're out. Back in two minutes.
681
00:37:51,438 --> 00:37:54,148
- [Alex sighs]
- [sighs] All right. Here I go.
682
00:37:54,233 --> 00:37:58,203
Hey, um, you're going to be great.
You're ready.
683
00:37:58,612 --> 00:38:00,702
Just stick to the script, okay?
684
00:38:00,781 --> 00:38:03,371
And just remember,
I'm with you the whole time.
685
00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:04,740
- Okay.
- Okay?
686
00:38:04,826 --> 00:38:06,326
- Thanks, Alex.
- Yeah.
687
00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:09,580
[sighs]
688
00:38:13,168 --> 00:38:14,458
We're back in 30.
689
00:38:27,891 --> 00:38:29,181
[Bradley] Hi, Ashley.
690
00:38:29,852 --> 00:38:32,192
Bradley Jackson. So nice to meet you.
691
00:38:32,271 --> 00:38:34,691
[Ashley] I'm so nervous.
I hope my mike doesn't pick it up.
692
00:38:34,773 --> 00:38:37,113
Oh, it's gonna be okay.
We're in this together.
693
00:38:37,192 --> 00:38:38,532
- Okay.
- All right?
694
00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:40,110
You want to take a seat?
695
00:38:41,655 --> 00:38:46,905
- And we're back in four, three, two...
- [Alex sighs]
696
00:38:47,327 --> 00:38:48,497
Cue her.
697
00:38:51,582 --> 00:38:54,172
{\an8}So, by this point, you were working
in the audio department.
698
00:38:54,251 --> 00:38:58,091
{\an8}Yeah.
So, I was the person who miked everyone.
699
00:38:58,172 --> 00:39:00,302
{\an8}It's a quick but intimate job.
700
00:39:00,841 --> 00:39:03,221
{\an8}So, of course
I was around Mitch every day.
701
00:39:03,302 --> 00:39:08,142
{\an8}And he liked to tease me when
I would slide the mike down his shirt.
702
00:39:08,807 --> 00:39:10,557
{\an8}You know, flirty stuff.
703
00:39:10,642 --> 00:39:14,352
{\an8}And I guess I thought he was fun...
704
00:39:15,439 --> 00:39:18,569
{\an8}and I liked the attention
from the star of the show.
705
00:39:19,234 --> 00:39:21,404
{\an8}If I'm honest, I flirted back.
706
00:39:22,154 --> 00:39:25,874
{\an8}But I never intended for it
to take the turn that it did.
707
00:39:26,658 --> 00:39:28,078
{\an8}And when did that happen?
708
00:39:29,620 --> 00:39:31,910
{\an8}I'm... sorry. This is all just...
709
00:39:31,997 --> 00:39:34,367
{\an8}It's okay. Take your time, Ashley.
710
00:39:38,629 --> 00:39:43,049
It was 2009,
and there was a big production meeting.
711
00:39:43,133 --> 00:39:44,433
Everyone was there.
712
00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:49,390
I wound up sitting next to Mitch,
which... he made sure of.
713
00:39:49,890 --> 00:39:51,560
And he sat down next to me.
714
00:39:52,392 --> 00:39:54,272
So, we were all in this meeting,
715
00:39:54,353 --> 00:39:58,693
and I felt a hand on my thigh,
under the table...
716
00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:01,320
and it was him.
717
00:40:02,110 --> 00:40:03,740
His hand lingered there.
718
00:40:04,821 --> 00:40:08,411
Then I felt him squeeze my thigh
in a way that felt...
719
00:40:09,993 --> 00:40:12,663
Loaded. Sexual.
720
00:40:13,205 --> 00:40:15,915
[Bradley] And what was going
through your head when that happened?
721
00:40:17,417 --> 00:40:21,507
{\an8}If I'm honest with myself,
it was exciting.
722
00:40:22,714 --> 00:40:23,974
{\an8}Really exciting.
723
00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:30,180
But also shocking and overwhelming.
724
00:40:30,973 --> 00:40:32,023
Confusing.
725
00:40:32,975 --> 00:40:34,845
How did you react in the moment?
726
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:38,229
I didn't. I should have.
727
00:40:39,314 --> 00:40:43,364
But it all happened so fast,
and it was so public.
728
00:40:43,944 --> 00:40:47,074
I didn't have time to think,
and so I did nothing.
729
00:40:48,699 --> 00:40:50,369
And that opened a door.
730
00:40:50,742 --> 00:40:56,792
And that flirty thing that we had,
it increased.
731
00:40:57,416 --> 00:41:03,046
{\an8}A lot. And it became... consuming.
732
00:41:04,089 --> 00:41:06,929
{\an8}"Consuming"? Describe what you mean.
733
00:41:08,260 --> 00:41:10,260
{\an8}I couldn't focus on my job.
734
00:41:10,929 --> 00:41:16,809
{\an8}All I could think about was what sexual
innuendo Mitch would throw my way.
735
00:41:16,894 --> 00:41:21,114
{\an8}And... I knew what he wanted.
736
00:41:22,065 --> 00:41:28,275
{\an8}There was a question in my head of,
"Should I give it to him?"
737
00:41:28,822 --> 00:41:31,032
{\an8}Or what would happen if you didn't?
738
00:41:31,450 --> 00:41:34,240
{\an8}Yeah. That crossed my mind.
739
00:41:35,245 --> 00:41:38,745
But I never did. But I was still scared.
740
00:41:38,832 --> 00:41:45,462
I felt like my entire career
was in the hands of this one person.
741
00:41:46,548 --> 00:41:51,598
I was very confused.
I didn't know how I felt about anything.
742
00:41:52,554 --> 00:41:56,734
And eventually it just became too much.
743
00:41:57,893 --> 00:41:59,483
And so I quit.
744
00:42:02,523 --> 00:42:07,243
Did you ever open up to anyone,
tell them what you were going through?
745
00:42:10,072 --> 00:42:11,322
{\an8}No, I didn't.
746
00:42:12,783 --> 00:42:14,413
{\an8}Did you report to HR?
747
00:42:15,869 --> 00:42:17,499
{\an8}About Mitch? No.
748
00:42:20,374 --> 00:42:21,464
Why didn't you?
749
00:42:24,002 --> 00:42:27,802
I guess I just... felt embarrassed.
750
00:42:30,717 --> 00:42:33,297
I didn't want Mitch to know
that I was complaining.
751
00:42:36,807 --> 00:42:40,727
So you felt
it would somehow get back to Mitch.
752
00:42:42,813 --> 00:42:44,313
No, I...
753
00:42:48,610 --> 00:42:50,570
Wait. That question wasn't vetted.
754
00:42:51,780 --> 00:42:53,280
I guess that...
755
00:42:54,283 --> 00:42:57,083
- Where are you going with this, Bradley?
- It's okay, Ashley.
756
00:42:58,161 --> 00:43:01,921
I know it's uncomfortable being back here
with all the people you used to work with
757
00:43:01,999 --> 00:43:03,629
in the studio and...
758
00:43:04,293 --> 00:43:06,173
I guess what I'm asking is:
759
00:43:06,253 --> 00:43:11,263
Was there something about the culture
at this network, at this show,
760
00:43:11,341 --> 00:43:14,301
that made it feel impossible to complain?
761
00:43:15,512 --> 00:43:16,682
No.
762
00:43:16,763 --> 00:43:18,143
What the hell is she doing?
763
00:43:20,434 --> 00:43:21,644
No, I...
764
00:43:22,311 --> 00:43:26,861
I didn't say anything
because I didn't want anyone to know.
765
00:43:28,817 --> 00:43:30,107
Know what?
766
00:43:32,696 --> 00:43:33,776
[exhales]
767
00:43:33,864 --> 00:43:35,914
People had to know
Mitch was flirting with you.
768
00:43:35,991 --> 00:43:37,621
You said he did it publicly.
769
00:43:43,832 --> 00:43:48,092
I'm not talking about flirting.
I'm talking about what happened.
770
00:43:51,340 --> 00:43:52,840
Did she hint at this during prep?
771
00:43:52,925 --> 00:43:55,335
- No. She never...
- Tell her to stop.
772
00:43:55,427 --> 00:43:59,217
- Bradley.
- Mia. Don't stop her.
773
00:44:04,603 --> 00:44:05,683
[Bradley] Ashley, I'm here.
774
00:44:06,855 --> 00:44:07,855
You're safe.
775
00:44:07,940 --> 00:44:11,030
I don't want you to say anything
that you don't feel comfortable saying.
776
00:44:13,654 --> 00:44:15,574
- Bradley.
- But the truth matters.
777
00:44:15,656 --> 00:44:16,736
[Alex] Pull it back.
778
00:44:16,823 --> 00:44:19,623
Sometimes it's the only weapon
that we have
779
00:44:19,701 --> 00:44:22,161
against the powerful men
who are trying to shut us up.
780
00:44:22,246 --> 00:44:24,706
Bradley, stop this right now.
781
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:29,750
And your truth, Ashley.
Your truth could help so many other women.
782
00:44:31,630 --> 00:44:33,010
Fred is on the phone.
783
00:44:44,518 --> 00:44:48,438
{\an8}Mitch and I did cross the line...
784
00:44:50,691 --> 00:44:51,981
{\an8}a few times.
785
00:44:54,111 --> 00:44:55,701
{\an8}In his dressing room.
786
00:44:59,533 --> 00:45:03,253
{\an8}He would call me in.
We would start kissing.
787
00:45:04,663 --> 00:45:06,463
{\an8}I would give him oral sex.
788
00:45:11,336 --> 00:45:12,336
[phone buzzes]
789
00:45:16,216 --> 00:45:19,336
He never forced me, ever.
790
00:45:20,929 --> 00:45:22,259
But I guess I...
791
00:45:24,057 --> 00:45:25,267
I still just...
792
00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:31,729
didn't really know
how not to go through with it.
793
00:45:34,568 --> 00:45:37,238
And I never told anybody, but...
794
00:45:38,780 --> 00:45:40,070
everybody knew.
795
00:45:41,241 --> 00:45:42,491
He's not picking up.
796
00:45:42,951 --> 00:45:43,951
Fuck!
797
00:45:44,036 --> 00:45:45,446
[Ashley] I could feel it.
798
00:45:46,496 --> 00:45:47,786
I could feel...
799
00:45:49,499 --> 00:45:55,379
these people that I... respected
looking at me different.
800
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,260
Losing respect for me.
801
00:45:59,259 --> 00:46:01,049
That must've been so hard for you.
802
00:46:01,470 --> 00:46:02,510
It was.
803
00:46:06,808 --> 00:46:11,978
I felt like I was...
watching myself from the outside.
804
00:46:13,357 --> 00:46:16,817
And I saw myself
the way everyone else saw me.
805
00:46:16,902 --> 00:46:22,572
This... slut sleeping with Mitch
to help her career.
806
00:46:24,201 --> 00:46:27,621
And I didn't... know who that person was.
807
00:46:28,622 --> 00:46:33,422
I didn't recognize myself.
And he did that to me.
808
00:46:34,169 --> 00:46:35,629
He branded me.
809
00:46:36,088 --> 00:46:39,968
He stole my confidence, my self-worth.
810
00:46:42,219 --> 00:46:44,389
And then I was... drowning,
811
00:46:44,471 --> 00:46:47,181
and there was no one
to throw me a lifeline.
812
00:46:47,266 --> 00:46:48,476
No one.
813
00:46:50,894 --> 00:46:54,274
I was alone. So alone.
814
00:46:56,149 --> 00:46:58,489
Surrounded by people, but...
815
00:46:59,152 --> 00:47:00,782
Isolated.
816
00:47:06,618 --> 00:47:10,958
Thank you so much, Ashley.
Thank you for telling us your truth.
817
00:47:11,707 --> 00:47:13,957
You're an incredibly brave woman.
818
00:47:14,042 --> 00:47:15,212
[exhales]
819
00:47:18,672 --> 00:47:20,092
We'll be right back.
820
00:47:22,050 --> 00:47:23,050
[Cory exhales]
821
00:47:23,969 --> 00:47:25,349
And we're out.
822
00:47:25,429 --> 00:47:27,429
[chatter]
823
00:47:29,558 --> 00:47:31,978
Thank you. Can I give you a hug?
824
00:47:38,317 --> 00:47:40,377
- [Bradley] Can I get you a tissue?
- [Ashley murmurs]
825
00:47:40,402 --> 00:47:41,532
I'll be right back.
826
00:47:48,327 --> 00:47:50,077
What the fuck was that?
827
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:54,329
I brought you in. I bet on you.
828
00:47:54,416 --> 00:47:56,126
I dragged you up out of nowhere
829
00:47:56,210 --> 00:47:59,420
and gave you
the opportunity of a fucking lifetime.
830
00:48:00,506 --> 00:48:02,466
What you just did was reckless.
831
00:48:03,133 --> 00:48:05,593
You just put this show
and everyone who works here at risk.
832
00:48:05,677 --> 00:48:07,217
Did you know?
833
00:48:12,518 --> 00:48:13,688
Excuse me?
834
00:48:13,769 --> 00:48:15,149
About Mitch.
835
00:48:15,938 --> 00:48:18,358
About what was going on
in his dressing room.
836
00:48:19,483 --> 00:48:20,533
Did you?
837
00:48:22,027 --> 00:48:23,277
How dare you?
838
00:48:35,499 --> 00:48:39,709
Excellent interview, Chip.
I can't wait for the rest of the show.
839
00:48:39,795 --> 00:48:41,415
I'm gonna grab some more tea.
840
00:48:49,096 --> 00:48:53,766
["Stronger" plays]
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