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Hey, how you doing?
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Hey, just put it...
yeah, put it right there.
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You... you don't look
so happy to see me.
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No, I just...
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I want to just get
this case behind me.
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- If today's not a good day...
- No, it's great.
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Not a problem. Not a problem.
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{\an8}Great, let's start at
the beginning then.
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{\an8}When did you meet
Abigail Tierney?
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{\an8}Uh, that was a few years ago
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when she showed up
at my door pretending
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to be pregnant
with my grandchild.
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Excuse me?
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Abigail and my son,
Henry, met in college.
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They got engaged,
you know, fast.
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Very fast.
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Her way of breaking the
news to me was to go bigger.
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But, um, despite
that introduction,
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I was charmed by her.
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She... she had
walked a tough road,
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but she had grit.
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She was resourceful and
driven, and I admire that.
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So she and Henry are
no longer together?
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Yeah, she broke
off the engagement,
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but it was amicable.
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You arranged for Abigail to have
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a ride along with the LAPD?
- Yes, yeah.
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She was considering police work.
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I take it that didn't work out?
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- Leave her alone!
- Hey.
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It did not.
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And then, six months ago,
she was reported missing.
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What exactly
happened to Abigail?
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Look, if you're going to get
to the bottom of what happened
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to that poor girl,
you're going to have
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to have an open mind,
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a very open mind.
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Wait!
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Police.
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I wonder when that happened.
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- Oh, my God.
- Hello?
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Can you hear me?
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When did you get
involved in the case?
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Not immediately.
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Most missing persons
cases aren't really cases.
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They're a roommate who
got too drunk at a bar
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and slept it off in his truck,
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or a college student whose
cell phone ran out of battery.
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You know, most of the time,
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they show up
unharmed and confused
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about all the fuss.
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But this wasn't
like that, was it?
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No after a few days
of follow-up calls,
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we sent officers by
Miss Tierney's apartment
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for a wellness check.
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Thanks again for doing this.
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Always a pleasure to
see my favorite couple.
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Let's keep this professional.
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Trouble in paradise?
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Sorry. Moving on.
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What did you find at
Abigail's apartment?
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Very little.
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I mean, no signs of a struggle.
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Well, there was no sign of
her or her film equipment.
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But we did find her laptop.
- Hold on.
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Film equipment?
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Abigail was making a movie?
- Yes.
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- We should be safe here.
- Why are they doing this?
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Go.
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I'll try to buy us some time.
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Ah! No! No!
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No!
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Please.
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I promise I'll pay!
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I'll pay the fine!
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{\an8}I only saw an early cut.
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{\an8}Could've used a bit more
gore, if you ask me.
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I didn't.
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I asked why you thought
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Abigail's case
was so compelling.
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Oh, right.
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Uh, because her Hollywood dream
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{\an8}had become a
Hollywood nightmare.
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{\an8}Would you like me
to take that again?
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{\an8}I really wouldn't.
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When you searched
Abigail's laptop,
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did you find anything on it?
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Yeah, it was filled with all of
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{\an8}these unanswered
messages, nasty ones.
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{\an8}The more we investigated,
it became clear
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{\an8}that Abigail had a lot
of people angry with her.
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{\an8}- Like who?
- OK. Thank you.
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{\an8}Thanks, Steve. Spielberg,
he's an old friend.
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I bet.
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{\an8}How did you get involved
with Abigail Tierney?
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{\an8}Oh, well, you know,
we're always looking
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{\an8}to discover and nurture
the next generation
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of unheard voices.
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Abigail sent in a very
compelling pitch video.
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Terror isn't something
that happens to you.
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{\an8}I mean, it's not every day
you find a writer, director,
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{\an8}and star with that much poise.
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{\an8}"Hell PD" was one
of those visionary,
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{\an8}artist-driven pictures that
we pride ourselves on making.
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{\an8}And they're the
cheapest, too, right?
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{\an8}Well, hey, the lower the budget,
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{\an8}the higher the
profit if it's a hit.
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{\an8}But the budget became an issue?
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{\an8}Yeah, Abigail pitched us a
straightforward horror flick,
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{\an8}but she kept
changing directions.
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{\an8}Please.
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{\an8}The reshoots started piling up.
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{\an8}And, uh, we had to pull
the plug on the project.
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{\an8}What about nurturing a
new generation of talent?
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{\an8}Oh, hey, look, there's...
there's nurturing,
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{\an8}and there's indulging.
I'm a businessman.
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{\an8}There's no hard feelings.
- Really?
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{\an8}Because I have an email from you
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{\an8}with the subject line,
"Where the hell is my money,
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{\an8}you lying sack..."
- OK. Yeah, fine.
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{\an8}A few hard feelings.
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{\an8}But they were nothing
compared to some of those
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{\an8}new producers she found.
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{\an8}Those guys weren't
playing around.
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{\an8}Well, without the
production company,
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{\an8}Abigail had to turn
to crowdfunding.
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{\an8}When Nolan passed along
Abigail's pitch video,
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{\an8}I figured, hey, I've
always loved scary movies.
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{\an8}and what's the point of having
a husband with a trust fund
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{\an8}if you can't use it
to support the arts?
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{\an8}And it wasn't just
money, was it?
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{\an8}No.
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{\an8}I promise I'll pay.
I'll pay the fine!
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{\an8}All right. Still rolling.
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{\an8}Reset.
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{\an8}Bravo! Bravo!
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{\an8}So Abigail hired you to
compose music for her film.
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{\an8}What was it like
to work with her?
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{\an8}Complicated.
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{\an8}She's very opinionated,
which I respect.
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{\an8}I tried not to
take it personally
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{\an8}when she kept throwing out
all the music I was writing,
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{\an8}but then when she
completely disappeared
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{\an8}and stopped answering
my phone calls...
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{\an8}That must have stung.
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{\an8}It did until I learned
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{\an8}that she walked off set
and ghosted everybody,
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{\an8}not just me. Then I
got worried about her.
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{\an8}I do wish she paid me though.
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{\an8}Hold up. You didn't get paid?
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{\an8}Do you count experience?
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{\an8}But it didn't provide you with
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{\an8}the breakthrough you hoped.
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{\an8}Even though a lot
of crowdfunders
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{\an8}were furious that the rewards
were going unfulfilled,
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{\an8}their anger didn't manifest
into a concrete threat.
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{\an8}From the suspect perspective,
we were back to square one.
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{\an8}Until we discovered that
Abigail had made several trips
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{\an8}up to Pelican Bay.
- The prison?
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{\an8}- Yes.
- To visit who?
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{\an8}- A serial killer.
- Liam Glasser.
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{\an8}In news that should bring
some relief to the Southland,
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{\an8}the LAPD have announced
a major arrest
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{\an8}charging Lincoln Heights
native, Liam Glasser,
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{\an8}with the murder of ten victims
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{\an8}found buried near
the Sepulveda Dam.
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{\an8}Our investigation into
Glasser was a challenge.
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He used another serial
killer, Harrison Novak,
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as cover for his crimes,
stashing his victims
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in Novak's burial ground.
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It wasn't until we
caught Glasser attempting
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to murder a new victim
that we were finally
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able to put him behind bars.
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Before we start, um, I just
want to make very clear
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that I'm an innocent
man and the subject
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of an extraordinary
campaign of harassment
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by the LAPD, particularly
detective Nyla Harper.
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You've been charged with
the murder of ten people.
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Those horrific allegations
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have not been proven
in a court of law,
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and they never will be.
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You've also been charged
with jury tampering.
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Look, if you're just going to
railroad me like the police,
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then this interview is over.
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Hold on. Hold on.
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I'm not here to talk
about any of that.
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I want to talk about Abigail.
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Why did she come see you?
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To learn about Westview.
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Westview Psychiatric
Hospital was at the center
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of Glasser's case.
- He was a patient?
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No, no, but his
vending machine company
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supplied the hospital,
and he was in and out
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of there for almost two decades.
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It's where he crossed
paths with Harrison Novak
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and where he found
another patient,
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Ryan Dearborn, to
serve as a patsy.
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He used an abandoned building
at the psych hospital complex
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to torture and kill his victims.
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Did Abigail ask about
the abandoned ward?
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Yes, but I couldn't
help her much because
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I've never been there myself.
- Obviously not.
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But I told her what I had heard,
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that the place is haunted,
which is obviously crazy.
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But when I was a kid,
I would join my father
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on his service
calls to Westview.
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And he always told me to
stay away from that building.
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Something inside clearly
scared the hell out of him.
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And he was not a
superstitious man.
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The thing that we
couldn't understand
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was how Abigail had found out
about Glasser's connection
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to the psych ward
in the first place.
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It wasn't public knowledge?
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No, we kept those details
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away from the
press deliberately.
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The only people who knew
were Glasser and the police.
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And obviously, Glasser wouldn't
admit to being down there.
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Which means?
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What they don't tell
you about making movies
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is that it's really boring.
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It's worse than surveillance.
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Anyway, Abigail and
I got to talking
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about my recent casework,
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and it's possible I may
have mentioned something
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about the psych ward.
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From Abigail's
notes, we gathered
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that she essentially abandoned
her movie for a new project.
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That was shortly after
a meeting with Glasser.
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Yeah, she felt that
fictional storytelling
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was disconnected from
real, lived experience.
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So that's when she decided
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to make a true crime
documentary about Westview.
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Westview Psychiatric
Hospital opened in 1953.
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It started as a model
of modern, humane care.
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But what lies beneath?
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The deeper I dug, the
more horrors I unearthed,
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mysteries that
defied explanation.
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How can one hospital
spawn two serial killers?
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Some might say it's bad luck,
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but I don't believe in bad luck.
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Mm-mmm.
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I think there's
something rotten here,
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original sin, and I'm
going to prove it.
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The footage on
Abigail's hard drive
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shows her inside
Westview's abandoned ward.
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Was that open to the public?
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No, after LAPD and FBI
finished processing the scene,
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the hospital put up
a razor wire fence
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and hired a security guard
for 24-hour surveillance
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to keep intruders out.
251
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But that clearly didn't work.
252
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Clearly, so we sent
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a patrol unit to check
in with the guard.
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- Mr. Ditweiler.
- Yeah.
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We're investigating
the disappearance
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of Abigail Tierney.
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Oh...
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Oh, hey!
259
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Hey!
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Stop!
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Hands behind your back. Hands.
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At first, Carl Ditweiler
claimed he did nothing wrong,
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that he never met Abigail.
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This is it.
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But when we searched his office,
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it was clear he was lying.
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Uh, Nolan.
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Oh, no.
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Abigail had become
his obsession.
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Yeah, things didn't look
good for Mr. Ditweiler.
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And based on his board,
it was clear he had
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become obsessed with Abigail.
273
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And, you know, maybe she
rejected his advances,
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and things went sideways.
- It was sobering.
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I held out hopes that
Abigail might still be alive,
276
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but I've been on the
job long enough to know
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that the odds were against that.
278
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Do you know how they
first crossed paths?
279
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Actually, it was Abigail
that first initiated contact.
280
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She was researching the
abandoned psych ward
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for a documentary, and Carl was
the nighttime security guard.
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She wanted access on the DL,
and she reached out, and she...
283
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- Flirted.
- Flirted.
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She flirted with him, and
he agreed to let her in.
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I just showed her around.
286
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I told her some
stories, things that
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had gone on there
back in the day.
288
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She was impressed.
289
00:12:16,486 --> 00:12:18,404
She actually asked me to help
her with her documentary.
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Said she'd give me a
credit on the film.
291
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Single card.
292
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If you're innocent,
why'd you run?
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Because I get what
it looks like.
294
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I was the last person to see
her before she disappeared.
295
00:12:27,289 --> 00:12:29,124
How do you know that?
296
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Because I watched the
darkness swallow her up.
297
00:12:32,711 --> 00:12:35,254
You know, I bet they were
doing all kinds of sick things
298
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to patients back in the day,
299
00:12:36,631 --> 00:12:38,007
things that would
be illegal now.
300
00:12:38,008 --> 00:12:40,718
Yeah, yeah, I know. They
used to do lobotomies.
301
00:12:40,719 --> 00:12:42,511
One of the orderlies
told me about it.
302
00:12:42,512 --> 00:12:43,762
He's worked here
for, like, forever.
303
00:12:43,763 --> 00:12:47,266
Do you think you could
introduce me to him?
304
00:12:47,267 --> 00:12:49,768
Uh, yeah, I guess.
305
00:12:49,769 --> 00:12:52,605
I just... obviously,
you can't tell him
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that I've let you in here.
307
00:12:54,566 --> 00:12:58,319
Come on, Carl. I would
never rat you out.
308
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We're friends, right?
309
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Did you hear that?
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We're friends.
311
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Ah.
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Do you hear that?
313
00:13:09,456 --> 00:13:10,831
What? No.
314
00:13:10,832 --> 00:13:15,252
That noise, it's a weird,
sort of beautiful sound.
315
00:13:15,253 --> 00:13:16,462
You really don't hear it?
316
00:13:16,463 --> 00:13:18,088
No, no, but this building makes
317
00:13:18,089 --> 00:13:19,423
all kinds of weird noises.
318
00:13:19,424 --> 00:13:20,799
Hey, I just got to go
back to the main building,
319
00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,801
radio security, let them
know that I'm at my post.
320
00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:25,304
You go ahead. I'm going
to go check this out.
321
00:13:25,305 --> 00:13:26,722
Uh...
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00:13:26,723 --> 00:13:29,475
What did you make of the
sound Abigail described?
323
00:13:29,476 --> 00:13:30,726
We weren't sure.
324
00:13:30,727 --> 00:13:32,478
I mean, Carl claimed
to have never heard it.
325
00:13:32,479 --> 00:13:35,189
It's possible that
she was faking
326
00:13:35,190 --> 00:13:36,565
to juice up her documentary.
327
00:13:36,566 --> 00:13:39,318
We've actually analyzed
some of the audio files
328
00:13:39,319 --> 00:13:40,402
from Carl's video,
329
00:13:40,403 --> 00:13:42,238
isolated the
low-end frequencies.
330
00:13:42,239 --> 00:13:43,739
Here.
331
00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:46,408
What is that?
332
00:13:46,409 --> 00:13:48,327
I was hoping you could tell me.
333
00:13:48,328 --> 00:13:50,829
It sounds...
- Demonic.
334
00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:52,998
Is that even a frequency
humans can hear?
335
00:13:52,999 --> 00:13:55,834
Not technically, no.
336
00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:01,006
Well, whatever she
heard or didn't hear,
337
00:14:01,007 --> 00:14:03,551
Abigail kept searching.
338
00:14:03,552 --> 00:14:04,385
Are you sure about this?
339
00:14:04,386 --> 00:14:05,427
Yeah, I'll be right back.
340
00:14:05,428 --> 00:14:08,222
Hello? Hello?
341
00:14:08,223 --> 00:14:10,307
Can you hear me?
342
00:14:10,308 --> 00:14:12,476
And that was the last
anyone had seen her.
343
00:14:12,477 --> 00:14:14,311
But Carl could have just
turned off his camera
344
00:14:14,312 --> 00:14:15,604
and then killed Abigail, right?
345
00:14:15,605 --> 00:14:17,648
We couldn't rule him
out as a suspect,
346
00:14:17,649 --> 00:14:20,776
but we only had circumstantial
evidence against him.
347
00:14:20,777 --> 00:14:21,944
And as we went
through the footage
348
00:14:21,945 --> 00:14:23,862
on Abigail's laptop,
we discovered
349
00:14:23,863 --> 00:14:25,239
that flirting with
Carl wasn't her only
350
00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,158
extreme research tactic.
- I'm going to start this.
351
00:14:28,159 --> 00:14:30,786
Should I turn into it?
352
00:14:30,787 --> 00:14:33,622
I'm going to turn into it.
353
00:14:33,623 --> 00:14:35,791
OK, I'm back at Westview,
354
00:14:35,792 --> 00:14:37,668
and if I'm going to
learn more about how
355
00:14:37,669 --> 00:14:39,003
the old psych ward operated,
356
00:14:39,004 --> 00:14:40,838
I'm going to need
to see their files.
357
00:14:40,839 --> 00:14:43,841
Obviously, we can't just
walk around filming people.
358
00:14:43,842 --> 00:14:46,552
So...
359
00:14:46,553 --> 00:14:50,472
See? It's a cam.
360
00:14:50,473 --> 00:14:52,391
See?
361
00:14:52,392 --> 00:14:53,727
OK.
362
00:14:55,437 --> 00:14:57,272
Wish me luck.
363
00:14:59,441 --> 00:15:00,649
Abigail had Carl lure
the director away
364
00:15:00,650 --> 00:15:04,945
from her office so Abigail
could sneak inside.
365
00:15:22,756 --> 00:15:24,840
Yeah, I mean,
seeing Rachel's name
366
00:15:24,841 --> 00:15:27,718
in Abigail's footage
was definitely a shock.
367
00:15:27,719 --> 00:15:29,803
You both have a history with
Miss Hall, is that right?
368
00:15:29,804 --> 00:15:33,182
Yes, so she and I went
to college together.
369
00:15:33,183 --> 00:15:35,517
And her and Tim...
370
00:15:35,518 --> 00:15:37,603
I'm sorry.
371
00:15:37,604 --> 00:15:39,396
Yeah, we used to date.
372
00:15:39,397 --> 00:15:40,898
Before or after you two?
373
00:15:40,899 --> 00:15:42,149
OK, next question.
374
00:15:42,150 --> 00:15:44,902
I'm simply trying to
establish a timeline.
375
00:15:44,903 --> 00:15:47,071
No problem. I'll
just ask her later.
376
00:15:47,072 --> 00:15:49,198
I, uh, worked in the psych ward
377
00:15:49,199 --> 00:15:52,993
at Westview for a year while
getting my social work degree.
378
00:15:52,994 --> 00:15:55,663
It was, um, challenging.
379
00:15:55,664 --> 00:15:56,705
How so?
380
00:15:56,706 --> 00:15:58,332
Well, for one
thing, the patients
381
00:15:58,333 --> 00:16:01,168
would often arrive at
the facility with, say,
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00:16:01,169 --> 00:16:03,295
a diagnosis of mild depression,
383
00:16:03,296 --> 00:16:07,299
and a week later, they'd start
to exhibit disordered thinking.
384
00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:10,135
Eventually, they
might become violent.
385
00:16:10,136 --> 00:16:13,180
The decompensation
was sudden and acute.
386
00:16:13,181 --> 00:16:14,473
You're saying they would
get worse, not better?
387
00:16:14,474 --> 00:16:16,975
Yes, and conventional
treatment seemed
388
00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:18,268
to never work.
389
00:16:18,269 --> 00:16:20,062
Some have suggested a
supernatural presence
390
00:16:20,063 --> 00:16:21,146
at Westview.
391
00:16:21,147 --> 00:16:22,439
Could that have
impacted the patients?
392
00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,442
Uh, well, just because
the doctors at Westview
393
00:16:25,443 --> 00:16:28,070
couldn't find a cause for
our patients' behavior
394
00:16:28,071 --> 00:16:29,321
doesn't mean there isn't one.
395
00:16:29,322 --> 00:16:31,990
Maybe it's just beyond
the capabilities
396
00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:33,200
of modern science to discover.
397
00:16:33,201 --> 00:16:35,035
Or maybe it's demons?
398
00:16:36,329 --> 00:16:39,123
There are no demons at Westview.
399
00:16:39,124 --> 00:16:41,625
There are totally
demons at Westview.
400
00:16:41,626 --> 00:16:44,420
What's another explanation for
everything that's happened?
401
00:16:44,421 --> 00:16:47,131
We got Liam Glasser,
Harrison Novak,
402
00:16:47,132 --> 00:16:50,050
and most recently, Ava...
- Maxwell.
403
00:16:50,051 --> 00:16:52,469
Ava Maxwell and
Charlotte Russell.
404
00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:55,013
This man came out
in a big overcoat.
405
00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:56,223
Black mask. Big knife.
406
00:16:56,224 --> 00:16:57,850
Hang on a moment.
407
00:16:57,851 --> 00:17:00,227
I know that Ava and Charlotte
were never treated at Westview.
408
00:17:00,228 --> 00:17:01,854
So what's the connection?
- Oh, you didn't hear?
409
00:17:01,855 --> 00:17:04,356
Charlotte's nanny was a patient
there when she was a teenager.
410
00:17:04,357 --> 00:17:06,483
Yes, yes, I was at Westview.
411
00:17:06,484 --> 00:17:11,071
{\an8}I had, uh, been having thoughts
of self-harm, acting out.
412
00:17:11,072 --> 00:17:12,322
{\an8}My family was very concerned,
413
00:17:12,323 --> 00:17:14,366
so they arranged
for me to receive
414
00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:16,994
the best care available.
- And did the treatment help?
415
00:17:16,995 --> 00:17:18,245
Not at first.
416
00:17:18,246 --> 00:17:21,331
I'd been experiencing a darkness
417
00:17:21,332 --> 00:17:23,292
that I had never felt before.
418
00:17:23,293 --> 00:17:25,002
And at first, I fought it.
419
00:17:25,003 --> 00:17:26,128
And then, I realized
that struggling
420
00:17:26,129 --> 00:17:27,421
only made everything worse,
421
00:17:27,422 --> 00:17:30,174
and once I accepted
it, that's when
422
00:17:30,175 --> 00:17:31,383
things started to get better.
423
00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:33,552
And I left Westview,
and I finished school,
424
00:17:33,553 --> 00:17:36,430
and I eventually made a
little life for myself.
425
00:17:36,431 --> 00:17:38,474
You were the nanny for
the Russell family?
426
00:17:38,475 --> 00:17:42,352
Yes, Charlotte and I
were very, very close.
427
00:17:42,353 --> 00:17:46,064
Well, I know that
everyone's saying just
428
00:17:46,065 --> 00:17:47,399
the worst things
about her right now,
429
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,235
but in my eyes, she is a poised
430
00:17:50,236 --> 00:17:51,695
and gifted young woman,
431
00:17:51,696 --> 00:17:54,406
and I'd like to think that
I had a small hand in that.
432
00:17:54,407 --> 00:17:57,284
As odd as it was to
find that connection,
433
00:17:57,285 --> 00:17:59,495
it was just one of those weird
coincidences, nothing more.
434
00:17:59,496 --> 00:18:01,413
Charlotte Russell
convinced her friend,
435
00:18:01,414 --> 00:18:04,875
Ava, to help her stab their
other friend, Grace Thayer.
436
00:18:04,876 --> 00:18:06,210
Her actions were her own.
437
00:18:06,211 --> 00:18:08,462
They're not inspired by
some nanny with a history
438
00:18:08,463 --> 00:18:11,256
of mental illness or
some demon in a computer
439
00:18:11,257 --> 00:18:12,382
that convinced
Charlotte to do it.
440
00:18:12,383 --> 00:18:14,301
I'm sorry. Computer demon?
441
00:18:14,302 --> 00:18:17,805
Zuzu is not a
demon, not a demon.
442
00:18:17,806 --> 00:18:18,680
It's an AI.
443
00:18:18,681 --> 00:18:20,140
Charlotte fed Zuzu information
444
00:18:20,141 --> 00:18:22,392
about herself and her
friends, and based on that,
445
00:18:22,393 --> 00:18:25,854
Zuzu told Charlotte what it
thought she wanted to hear.
446
00:18:25,855 --> 00:18:27,064
Zuzu also helped you.
447
00:18:27,065 --> 00:18:28,273
Isn't that right, Officer Nolan?
448
00:18:28,274 --> 00:18:31,985
It mentioned something
to me about a watch?
449
00:18:31,986 --> 00:18:33,237
You spoke to it?
450
00:18:33,238 --> 00:18:35,072
Hello friend of John Nolan.
451
00:18:35,073 --> 00:18:37,157
Hi, should I call you Zuzu?
452
00:18:37,158 --> 00:18:38,325
If you want to.
453
00:18:38,326 --> 00:18:40,077
Do you need help with something,
454
00:18:40,078 --> 00:18:42,913
perhaps a topic
for a new project?
455
00:18:42,914 --> 00:18:44,248
Your last few have struggled.
456
00:18:44,249 --> 00:18:45,874
They've done fine. Thanks.
457
00:18:45,875 --> 00:18:48,293
But I actually want to talk to
you about Westview Psychiatric.
458
00:18:48,294 --> 00:18:51,255
John was interested in the two.
459
00:18:51,256 --> 00:18:53,465
That young woman, Abigail,
went missing there.
460
00:18:53,466 --> 00:18:56,510
Are you saying the police
asked you to help find her?
461
00:18:56,511 --> 00:18:59,179
No, but they needed
my help anyway.
462
00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:01,557
And a good friend
doesn't wait to be asked.
463
00:19:01,558 --> 00:19:04,393
- Zuzu did send me a message.
- What did it say?
464
00:19:04,394 --> 00:19:08,981
It told me that Abigail
was in room 666.
465
00:19:08,982 --> 00:19:11,984
The number of the Beast?
466
00:19:11,985 --> 00:19:14,570
Look, the facility
had no room 666.
467
00:19:14,571 --> 00:19:18,282
And Zuzu isn't a demon. We
were at a complete dead end.
468
00:19:18,283 --> 00:19:20,075
And we were running out of time.
469
00:19:20,076 --> 00:19:22,411
Abigail had been
gone for 11 days.
470
00:19:22,412 --> 00:19:25,289
The odds of finding her
alive were getting worse.
471
00:19:25,290 --> 00:19:29,251
Yeah, we were out of options
until the 911 call came in.
472
00:19:29,252 --> 00:19:31,378
Apparently, there
were suspicious noises
473
00:19:31,379 --> 00:19:34,214
and lights coming from
this abandoned wing,
474
00:19:34,215 --> 00:19:36,842
so we went to check it out.
475
00:19:39,971 --> 00:19:41,930
Police. Coming in.
476
00:19:41,931 --> 00:19:43,223
Control, 7-Adam-100.
477
00:19:43,224 --> 00:19:44,391
No signs of break in here.
478
00:19:44,392 --> 00:19:47,853
Did RP say where
they saw the light?
479
00:19:49,188 --> 00:19:50,647
I think the radio is blocked.
480
00:19:50,648 --> 00:19:53,025
Probably some idiot kids
trying to scare each other.
481
00:19:53,026 --> 00:19:54,443
Yeah.
482
00:19:54,444 --> 00:19:56,153
When was the last
time it rained?
483
00:19:56,154 --> 00:19:57,822
Like, a month ago. Why?
484
00:20:02,076 --> 00:20:03,201
Walls are wet.
485
00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:05,329
Yeah.
486
00:20:05,330 --> 00:20:07,205
What is this place?
487
00:20:07,206 --> 00:20:08,790
And how did you
two get involved?
488
00:20:08,791 --> 00:20:12,920
Celina and I were about to
clock out when we got the call.
489
00:20:12,921 --> 00:20:15,255
God, I hate this place.
490
00:20:15,256 --> 00:20:16,965
How many messed up
things have to happen
491
00:20:16,966 --> 00:20:18,258
before they tear it down?
492
00:20:18,259 --> 00:20:20,427
Apparently, the ownership
is under dispute.
493
00:20:20,428 --> 00:20:22,471
Westview says that
they hold the deed,
494
00:20:22,472 --> 00:20:26,850
but then there's this
claim by this Lou Cypher.
495
00:20:26,851 --> 00:20:28,185
Lou Cypher?
496
00:20:28,186 --> 00:20:30,395
Lucifer!
497
00:20:30,396 --> 00:20:32,356
- Oh, my God.
- You're messing with me.
498
00:20:32,357 --> 00:20:34,191
Yes, I am. Come on.
499
00:20:34,192 --> 00:20:36,068
Let's go find Tim and
Lucy and get out of here.
500
00:20:36,069 --> 00:20:39,113
Don't step in that.
- Ooh, ugh.
501
00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:49,289
Oh, did you see that?
502
00:20:49,290 --> 00:20:51,083
Someone's flashlight?
503
00:20:52,168 --> 00:20:53,210
And that?
504
00:20:53,211 --> 00:20:56,088
I do not know what that was.
505
00:21:16,776 --> 00:21:17,693
Police, show us your hands.
506
00:21:17,694 --> 00:21:19,987
- Ah!
- Oh!
507
00:21:19,988 --> 00:21:21,947
We have permission to be here.
508
00:21:21,948 --> 00:21:24,282
- That's not totally true.
- All right.
509
00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:26,284
Unfortunately, gentlemen,
you are trespassing.
510
00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:28,621
You're going to have
to come with us.
511
00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:31,123
What are you doing here?
512
00:21:31,124 --> 00:21:32,958
Filming an episode, sir.
513
00:21:32,959 --> 00:21:35,127
"Ghost Files."
I love you guys.
514
00:21:35,128 --> 00:21:36,586
What is "Ghost Files"?
515
00:21:36,587 --> 00:21:38,922
Welcome to "Ghost
Files," where we take
516
00:21:38,923 --> 00:21:41,216
your evidence and our
tools into the field
517
00:21:41,217 --> 00:21:43,051
to expose the supernatural.
518
00:21:43,052 --> 00:21:46,847
{\an8}My partner, a skeptic.
Myself, a believer.
519
00:21:46,848 --> 00:21:48,223
{\an8}Both of us, truth seekers.
520
00:21:48,224 --> 00:21:50,058
This week, our team has traveled
521
00:21:50,059 --> 00:21:52,019
to Los Angeles,
California, to explore
522
00:21:52,020 --> 00:21:54,146
a condemned
psychiatric facility.
523
00:21:54,147 --> 00:21:57,357
Now, in 1841, this was the
site of a Spanish barracks,
524
00:21:57,358 --> 00:21:59,985
but a massive earthquake
swallowed the building,
525
00:21:59,986 --> 00:22:01,445
killing everyone inside.
526
00:22:01,446 --> 00:22:03,989
Many saw the event as
retribution for Spanish crimes
527
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:06,158
committed in the New World.
528
00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:08,910
Sure, or an earthquake
happened in a region
529
00:22:08,911 --> 00:22:10,662
prone to earthquakes.
530
00:22:12,206 --> 00:22:13,331
But that's just the beginning
of this site's dark history.
531
00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:16,877
Join us as we investigate.
- This way.
532
00:22:16,878 --> 00:22:19,504
At that time, did you believe
the facility was haunted?
533
00:22:19,505 --> 00:22:21,590
- No.
- Yes.
534
00:22:21,591 --> 00:22:22,883
You were filming there too.
535
00:22:22,884 --> 00:22:24,760
Did you experience any
temperature fluctuations
536
00:22:24,761 --> 00:22:26,011
or anything like that?
537
00:22:26,012 --> 00:22:27,512
I'll ask the questions,
if you don't mind.
538
00:22:27,513 --> 00:22:28,805
We do.
539
00:22:28,806 --> 00:22:30,849
But this is my documentary.
540
00:22:30,850 --> 00:22:33,769
No, this is our YouTube show.
541
00:22:33,770 --> 00:22:35,896
Yeah, so ghosts
are said to produce
542
00:22:35,897 --> 00:22:37,272
electromagnetic interference.
543
00:22:37,273 --> 00:22:39,858
Did you experience any
trouble with your equipment?
544
00:22:43,529 --> 00:22:44,988
We're done here.
545
00:22:44,989 --> 00:22:47,365
Let's cut. Let's wrap this up.
546
00:22:49,702 --> 00:22:50,911
- Nice.
- Yeah.
547
00:22:50,912 --> 00:22:52,829
All of you, let's go. Come on.
548
00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:54,164
No, no way.
549
00:22:54,165 --> 00:22:55,874
This is some of the best
footage we've ever gotten.
550
00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:57,209
- Listen to this.
- What is that?
551
00:22:57,210 --> 00:22:58,460
Oh, it's a Spirit Box.
552
00:22:58,461 --> 00:23:00,295
Did you guys hear anything?
- A Spirit Box?
553
00:23:00,296 --> 00:23:02,714
The Spirit Box rapidly
scans radio signals
554
00:23:02,715 --> 00:23:07,552
to create white noise through
which spirits can communicate.
555
00:23:07,553 --> 00:23:10,388
- Hello.
- See?
556
00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:12,474
It's science.
557
00:23:12,475 --> 00:23:13,683
Listen.
558
00:23:16,479 --> 00:23:17,604
OK, OK. That's enough.
559
00:23:17,605 --> 00:23:18,688
We got to go.
560
00:23:18,689 --> 00:23:19,815
No, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait.
561
00:23:19,816 --> 00:23:22,526
I heard something.
Can you turn it up?
562
00:23:27,448 --> 00:23:28,782
Help me?
563
00:23:28,783 --> 00:23:30,867
That is not what I heard.
564
00:23:30,868 --> 00:23:33,495
Oh, oh, well, who
do you think it is?
565
00:23:33,496 --> 00:23:35,831
- It's feedback.
- It's a ghost.
566
00:23:35,832 --> 00:23:38,500
It was a little clearer
down the hallway.
567
00:23:38,501 --> 00:23:40,460
Show me.
568
00:23:42,964 --> 00:23:46,550
So we're just going to give
up on Tim and Lucy then?
569
00:23:46,551 --> 00:23:48,718
How long have we been in here?
570
00:23:51,681 --> 00:23:54,349
- This room?
- Yeah.
571
00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:55,433
I don't know.
572
00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:57,394
We've been here
for a while, right?
573
00:23:57,395 --> 00:24:00,355
Yeah, I mean, I don't mind.
574
00:24:00,356 --> 00:24:03,108
I feel good, like, really good.
575
00:24:03,109 --> 00:24:04,402
Mm.
576
00:24:06,529 --> 00:24:09,239
Do you think we've been drugged?
577
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,701
Oh, the wet walls.
578
00:24:12,702 --> 00:24:14,828
We touched them.
- Yeah.
579
00:24:14,829 --> 00:24:16,788
I hate making mistakes
in front of you.
580
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:21,501
Oh, you've never
admitted that before.
581
00:24:21,502 --> 00:24:22,752
Truth serum.
582
00:24:22,753 --> 00:24:25,589
- Sodium pentothal.
- Yeah.
583
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:26,965
You know what?
584
00:24:26,966 --> 00:24:31,344
We... we should keep quiet
until this wears off.
585
00:24:31,345 --> 00:24:32,429
- No.
- Yeah.
586
00:24:32,430 --> 00:24:33,597
- No.
- It's better for us.
587
00:24:33,598 --> 00:24:34,723
No.
588
00:24:34,724 --> 00:24:39,686
What is your most
embarrassing memory?
589
00:24:39,687 --> 00:24:45,442
Oh, I mean, third grade,
I snuck my hamster
590
00:24:45,443 --> 00:24:48,612
into my classroom in my pants.
591
00:24:58,956 --> 00:25:02,709
With that kind of
dad, you internalize
592
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:06,421
the message that if you fail,
you deserve to be punished.
593
00:25:06,422 --> 00:25:10,383
And without him
to punish me, I...
594
00:25:10,384 --> 00:25:11,760
I guess I punished myself.
595
00:25:11,761 --> 00:25:14,846
- By breaking up with me.
- Yep.
596
00:25:14,847 --> 00:25:17,682
I mean, it's kind of
flattering, right?
597
00:25:17,683 --> 00:25:20,518
It's the worst thing I
could think to do to myself.
598
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:23,396
You didn't punish
just yourself though.
599
00:25:23,397 --> 00:25:24,856
I know.
600
00:25:24,857 --> 00:25:27,609
And look, if you never
fully forgive me,
601
00:25:27,610 --> 00:25:28,777
I totally understand.
602
00:25:28,778 --> 00:25:30,695
I have already forgiven you.
603
00:25:30,696 --> 00:25:34,283
It's not even...
604
00:25:36,327 --> 00:25:37,494
Huh.
605
00:25:37,495 --> 00:25:38,954
I wonder when that happened.
606
00:25:38,955 --> 00:25:41,539
You can't put that
in the documentary.
607
00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:43,500
The LAPD makes all
body cam footage
608
00:25:43,501 --> 00:25:44,626
available to the public.
609
00:25:44,627 --> 00:25:46,336
OK, this is obviously
an exception.
610
00:25:46,337 --> 00:25:47,587
We were drugged.
611
00:25:47,588 --> 00:25:49,464
People... people say
all sorts of things
612
00:25:49,465 --> 00:25:50,632
when they've been drugged.
613
00:25:50,633 --> 00:25:52,801
So you didn't mean
what you said?
614
00:25:52,802 --> 00:25:56,513
What about the potential
baby names you discussed?
615
00:25:56,514 --> 00:25:57,806
- OK, we're done here.
- Yeah.
616
00:25:57,807 --> 00:25:58,890
Why do we keep
agreeing to do this?
617
00:25:58,891 --> 00:26:00,350
I don't know. Excuse me!
618
00:26:00,351 --> 00:26:01,851
Help me.
619
00:26:01,852 --> 00:26:03,520
OK, you have to admit that's
a voice asking for help.
620
00:26:03,521 --> 00:26:04,604
Yeah, sure, I heard it,
621
00:26:04,605 --> 00:26:05,605
but it's one of
their crew members
622
00:26:05,606 --> 00:26:06,940
or something pre-recorded.
623
00:26:06,941 --> 00:26:09,693
Were you a patient here?
Is the demon with you?
624
00:26:09,694 --> 00:26:12,237
Somebody covered up a door.
625
00:26:12,238 --> 00:26:13,488
What year did you die?
626
00:26:13,489 --> 00:26:16,408
So close. Set me free!
627
00:26:16,409 --> 00:26:18,576
I'm here! I'm here!
628
00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:19,661
Please...
629
00:26:19,662 --> 00:26:21,663
Step back, guys.
630
00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:25,917
Keep going!
631
00:26:25,918 --> 00:26:27,627
You're almost there!
- Watch out. Ready?
632
00:26:27,628 --> 00:26:30,381
Go.
633
00:26:31,424 --> 00:26:32,674
Abigail!
634
00:26:32,675 --> 00:26:34,384
Thank you! Thank you!
635
00:26:34,385 --> 00:26:35,552
Thank you! Thank you!
636
00:26:35,553 --> 00:26:36,761
I've been trapped
in here for so long.
637
00:26:36,762 --> 00:26:39,514
I thought I was going
to die. Thank you!
638
00:26:39,515 --> 00:26:41,641
Oh, my God. What is this room?
639
00:26:41,642 --> 00:26:43,476
OK, but why did they
wall it all off?
640
00:26:43,477 --> 00:26:44,728
To trap the demon.
641
00:26:44,729 --> 00:26:47,397
Yeah, Bartleby, the
terrifying demon king
642
00:26:47,398 --> 00:26:48,565
of paperwork.
643
00:26:48,566 --> 00:26:50,525
How did you get down here?
644
00:26:50,526 --> 00:26:53,737
I was exploring,
following this...
645
00:26:53,738 --> 00:26:55,864
this weird, beautiful noise,
646
00:26:55,865 --> 00:26:57,574
when all of a
sudden, it got cold.
647
00:26:57,575 --> 00:26:58,908
Like, so, so cold,
648
00:26:58,909 --> 00:27:01,536
and I could feel
something coming after me,
649
00:27:01,537 --> 00:27:03,788
and I was scared, so I
hid behind a cabinet,
650
00:27:03,789 --> 00:27:06,541
but the floor was
wet and rusted,
651
00:27:06,542 --> 00:27:08,710
and it collapsed. I
couldn't climb back out.
652
00:27:08,711 --> 00:27:10,754
You fell from
there? Are you OK?
653
00:27:10,755 --> 00:27:13,673
I think I twisted my
ankle, but I feel no pain.
654
00:27:13,674 --> 00:27:15,675
You've been missing
for two weeks.
655
00:27:15,676 --> 00:27:19,263
How the hell did you survive?
- Oh.
656
00:27:20,681 --> 00:27:23,516
I had a bunch of
trail mix in my bag.
657
00:27:23,517 --> 00:27:25,769
Plus, I found, like,
this ancient water jug
658
00:27:25,770 --> 00:27:27,437
in one of the cabinets.
659
00:27:27,438 --> 00:27:28,855
Plus, Bob.
660
00:27:28,856 --> 00:27:32,442
Bob had PowerBars.
Bob had PowerBars.
661
00:27:32,443 --> 00:27:33,610
Bob?
662
00:27:33,611 --> 00:27:35,362
Oh, my God!
663
00:27:35,363 --> 00:27:36,529
If it wasn't for Bob,
664
00:27:36,530 --> 00:27:39,449
I would have lost
my mind down here.
665
00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:41,451
Don't be shy, Bob. Say hello.
666
00:27:41,452 --> 00:27:43,371
Shy.
667
00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:47,082
Abigail was safe,
and, uh, considering
668
00:27:47,083 --> 00:27:51,002
what she'd been through,
relatively healthy.
669
00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:52,295
Except for her mental state.
670
00:27:52,296 --> 00:27:55,924
That did pose some questions.
671
00:27:55,925 --> 00:27:57,258
At first, I was angry.
672
00:27:57,259 --> 00:27:59,302
You know, like, we're
stuck down here together.
673
00:27:59,303 --> 00:28:01,262
At least try and
have a conversation.
674
00:28:01,263 --> 00:28:04,974
{\an8}And then I realized
Bob's just shy.
675
00:28:04,975 --> 00:28:06,226
He's just shy.
676
00:28:06,227 --> 00:28:08,019
And there's nothing
wrong with that, right?
677
00:28:08,020 --> 00:28:09,354
Right.
678
00:28:09,355 --> 00:28:11,898
Did you believe she'd
had a demonic encounter?
679
00:28:11,899 --> 00:28:14,025
She went in perfectly sane
680
00:28:14,026 --> 00:28:16,319
and came out best
friends with a corpse.
681
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,697
That's how possession works.
You can't rule out demons.
682
00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:20,824
Yes, you can.
683
00:28:20,825 --> 00:28:22,618
Nolan, look at this.
684
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:27,080
666, just like Zuzu said.
685
00:28:28,791 --> 00:28:31,084
It was a weird coincidence.
686
00:28:31,085 --> 00:28:35,130
It was a weird coincidence.
687
00:28:35,131 --> 00:28:38,258
We found quite a cocktail
of drugs in your system.
688
00:28:38,259 --> 00:28:41,136
I don't do drugs.
Does pot count?
689
00:28:41,137 --> 00:28:44,931
No, we're talking about
powerful hallucinogens.
690
00:28:44,932 --> 00:28:46,891
I'm not hallucinating.
691
00:28:46,892 --> 00:28:48,852
Ask Bob.
692
00:28:48,853 --> 00:28:50,895
I had them run the test twice,
693
00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:52,188
and we found a similar cocktail
694
00:28:52,189 --> 00:28:54,315
in Officer Chen and
Sergeant Bradford.
695
00:28:54,316 --> 00:28:57,986
Mercifully, none of the
drugs were fat soluble.
696
00:28:57,987 --> 00:29:00,155
Otherwise, department policy
697
00:29:00,156 --> 00:29:01,990
would have forced
Sergeant Bradford
698
00:29:01,991 --> 00:29:04,742
and Officer Chen into
medical retirement.
699
00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:05,910
Is that what killed Bob,
700
00:29:05,911 --> 00:29:07,996
whatever drug they
were exposed to?
701
00:29:07,997 --> 00:29:12,000
No, he was shot six
times in the chest.
702
00:29:12,001 --> 00:29:13,334
Did you get an ID on the body?
703
00:29:13,335 --> 00:29:15,170
His name was Bob Medina,
a friend reported him
704
00:29:15,171 --> 00:29:16,838
missing about six months ago.
705
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:18,339
He was a private investigator.
706
00:29:18,340 --> 00:29:19,924
What was his connection
to the hospital?
707
00:29:19,925 --> 00:29:22,010
At first, we couldn't find one.
708
00:29:22,011 --> 00:29:24,804
So to be clear, there
was now a third killer
709
00:29:24,805 --> 00:29:26,181
associated with that location?
710
00:29:26,182 --> 00:29:28,016
At this point, it
can't be a coincidence.
711
00:29:28,017 --> 00:29:29,934
There has to be something
about that facility
712
00:29:29,935 --> 00:29:31,811
that draws people
towards homicide.
713
00:29:31,812 --> 00:29:33,271
That's a stretch and a half.
714
00:29:33,272 --> 00:29:35,356
Westview is a hospital
for the mentally ill
715
00:29:35,357 --> 00:29:37,942
and the criminally insane.
Novak was a patient.
716
00:29:37,943 --> 00:29:39,277
Glasser was there
looking for a patsy.
717
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:41,362
And whoever killed Bob
saw an abandoned building
718
00:29:41,363 --> 00:29:44,492
and was like, "That's a
perfect place to dump a body."
719
00:29:46,744 --> 00:29:48,119
What?
720
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,122
Or there was some dark
energy that drew evil to it.
721
00:29:51,123 --> 00:29:53,374
- You really believe that?
- I'm Catholic.
722
00:29:53,375 --> 00:29:55,793
I was raised on
demons and the battle
723
00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:57,128
against Satan's minions.
724
00:29:57,129 --> 00:29:59,130
Well, I was raised on
the scientific method.
725
00:29:59,131 --> 00:30:01,966
OK, so if it's all
so explainable,
726
00:30:01,967 --> 00:30:04,636
spend the night
there. I dare you.
727
00:30:04,637 --> 00:30:05,762
Pass.
728
00:30:05,763 --> 00:30:06,763
You're scared.
729
00:30:06,764 --> 00:30:08,306
No, I'm not scared.
730
00:30:08,307 --> 00:30:10,266
One could argue that the
drugs in the hospital
731
00:30:10,267 --> 00:30:13,228
are hardly surprising,
even hallucinogens.
732
00:30:13,229 --> 00:30:14,354
Over the decades,
they have been used
733
00:30:14,355 --> 00:30:16,272
in experimental medicine.
- No, true.
734
00:30:16,273 --> 00:30:19,234
Just the type and volume
is what set off...
735
00:30:19,235 --> 00:30:22,195
- What are you doing?
- Conducting an interview.
736
00:30:22,196 --> 00:30:24,072
Could you please come
back in, like, an hour?
737
00:30:24,073 --> 00:30:26,783
You said you'd talk to
me for my documentary.
738
00:30:26,784 --> 00:30:28,034
You have a documentary?
739
00:30:28,035 --> 00:30:30,078
Well, it's my story.
Who better to tell it?
740
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:31,579
Well, no problem.
741
00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:33,164
I can sit down with you just
as soon as we're done here.
742
00:30:33,165 --> 00:30:34,958
Oh, I wish. It has
to be exclusive.
743
00:30:34,959 --> 00:30:36,334
You can't do both.
744
00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:38,086
She's right. It has
to be exclusive.
745
00:30:38,087 --> 00:30:40,004
Either you're doing my
doc, or you're doing hers,
746
00:30:40,005 --> 00:30:41,214
and we have a long history.
747
00:30:41,215 --> 00:30:42,924
I was almost his
daughter-in-law,
748
00:30:42,925 --> 00:30:45,093
so suck it.
749
00:30:45,094 --> 00:30:46,928
I'm going to have
to go with her.
750
00:30:46,929 --> 00:30:49,180
I'm sorry.
- Seriously?
751
00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:51,808
I have a BAFTA.
752
00:30:51,809 --> 00:30:53,351
OK, fine.
753
00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:55,937
Let's wrap it up.
- This way. The set's this way.
754
00:30:55,938 --> 00:30:57,230
It's better lighting over there.
755
00:30:57,231 --> 00:30:58,982
We got a great team.
756
00:30:58,983 --> 00:31:00,316
We are going to
need our mic back.
757
00:31:00,317 --> 00:31:01,943
- Yes, oh, sorry.
- Yeah, of course.
758
00:31:01,944 --> 00:31:03,945
We have our own.
- Sorry.
759
00:31:03,946 --> 00:31:05,530
I'll see you guys around.
- Good luck.
760
00:31:05,531 --> 00:31:08,032
We can talk about what else I
found inside the secret lab.
761
00:31:08,033 --> 00:31:09,242
Oh, right.
762
00:31:09,243 --> 00:31:11,202
Well, you did find
some paperwork.
763
00:31:11,203 --> 00:31:14,163
Explosive paperwork.
764
00:31:14,164 --> 00:31:16,124
Evidence of a secret
government program.
765
00:31:16,125 --> 00:31:18,001
Close the door softly please.
766
00:31:18,002 --> 00:31:20,128
Well, I don't know that
we can say that for sure.
767
00:31:20,129 --> 00:31:21,880
Oh, we could.
768
00:31:24,633 --> 00:31:26,092
My name is Abigail Tierney.
769
00:31:26,093 --> 00:31:28,136
I'm currently trapped
inside a secret lab
770
00:31:28,137 --> 00:31:29,387
at Westview Psychiatric.
771
00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:31,472
All attempts at escape
have proven fruitless.
772
00:31:31,473 --> 00:31:34,267
If I'm to die here, I
leave you this footage
773
00:31:34,268 --> 00:31:38,021
along with my in-process
documentary as evidence
774
00:31:38,022 --> 00:31:40,148
of my hunt for the
truth about the evils
775
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:42,233
that inhabit this
accursed place.
776
00:31:42,234 --> 00:31:44,235
โช The way I move
is a mystery โช
777
00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:45,945
โช I'm not the way โช
778
00:31:45,946 --> 00:31:47,947
What's this?
779
00:31:49,033 --> 00:31:50,241
Cool.
780
00:31:50,242 --> 00:31:51,993
That's when I
realized I'd uncovered
781
00:31:51,994 --> 00:31:54,495
something more haunting than
any ghost or serial killer.
782
00:31:54,496 --> 00:31:57,248
I'd uncovered a
conspiracy that went to
783
00:31:57,249 --> 00:32:01,169
the very highest levels
of our government.
784
00:32:01,170 --> 00:32:03,171
{\an8}The government
files Abigail found
785
00:32:03,172 --> 00:32:07,008
{\an8}detailed classified
plans and methods
786
00:32:07,009 --> 00:32:09,093
for human experimentation.
787
00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:10,970
What type of experimentation?
788
00:32:10,971 --> 00:32:12,764
Are you familiar with MK-Ultra?
789
00:32:12,765 --> 00:32:14,182
Of course.
790
00:32:14,183 --> 00:32:16,768
It was a top secret CIA
program in the '50s and '60s
791
00:32:16,769 --> 00:32:18,102
using experimental drugs
792
00:32:18,103 --> 00:32:19,395
{\an8}to aid in interrogation
techniques.
793
00:32:19,396 --> 00:32:21,272
{\an8}It was straight-up
mind control.
794
00:32:21,273 --> 00:32:24,442
I mean, they used high doses
of psychoactive drugs like LSD,
795
00:32:24,443 --> 00:32:29,405
sodium pentothal, which is
also known as a "truth serum."
796
00:32:29,406 --> 00:32:32,867
The program ran
from 1953 to 1973
797
00:32:32,868 --> 00:32:35,578
before it was shut down
following a public outcry.
798
00:32:35,579 --> 00:32:37,705
I mean, all the
facilities were closed.
799
00:32:37,706 --> 00:32:40,208
There's no evidence the
CIA ever used Westview
800
00:32:40,209 --> 00:32:41,709
as a base of operations.
801
00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:44,462
{\an8}So what were top secret
MK-Ultra documents doing there?
802
00:32:44,463 --> 00:32:45,755
Good question.
803
00:32:45,756 --> 00:32:47,590
We started digging
into the trove of files
804
00:32:47,591 --> 00:32:49,509
Abigail had found, and one name
805
00:32:49,510 --> 00:32:51,803
kept popping up again and again.
806
00:32:51,804 --> 00:32:53,846
Dr. Julius Erickson.
807
00:32:53,847 --> 00:32:56,933
He was one of the psychologists
contracted by the CIA
808
00:32:56,934 --> 00:32:59,852
to conduct
experimental research.
809
00:32:59,853 --> 00:33:03,314
And after MK-Ultra shut
down, he took a new job.
810
00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:04,565
Director of Westview.
811
00:33:04,566 --> 00:33:07,402
Dr. Erickson ran the
hospital for 20 years.
812
00:33:07,403 --> 00:33:08,903
And from the notes we uncovered,
813
00:33:08,904 --> 00:33:12,365
it seems clear he continued
his own research in private,
814
00:33:12,366 --> 00:33:14,367
trying to use the
psychological breakthroughs
815
00:33:14,368 --> 00:33:17,161
from MK-Ultra to
further his own research
816
00:33:17,162 --> 00:33:18,579
into mind-altering drugs.
817
00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:21,165
I assume he used those
drugs on Westview patients?
818
00:33:21,166 --> 00:33:22,583
Yeah, at first.
819
00:33:22,584 --> 00:33:24,293
But then, he started
using them on himself,
820
00:33:24,294 --> 00:33:26,838
believing he had found the
key to improving his own mind.
821
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:28,089
He hadn't.
822
00:33:28,090 --> 00:33:29,507
And in a last
moment of lucidity,
823
00:33:29,508 --> 00:33:32,176
Erickson decided to
destroy his research.
824
00:33:32,177 --> 00:33:33,845
He dumped the chemicals
outside the building,
825
00:33:33,846 --> 00:33:36,305
where they started to slowly
seep into the structure.
826
00:33:36,306 --> 00:33:38,141
And some of the drugs
were potent enough
827
00:33:38,142 --> 00:33:40,059
to be absorbed simply by touch,
828
00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:41,769
even when diluted.
829
00:33:41,770 --> 00:33:44,063
Erickson committed himself
to Westview shortly after,
830
00:33:44,064 --> 00:33:46,149
never said another word.
831
00:33:46,150 --> 00:33:47,525
He died in 2020.
832
00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:50,236
Did the CIA ever find out
what Erickson was doing?
833
00:33:50,237 --> 00:33:53,072
Not that we've found, but
it's not like the agency
834
00:33:53,073 --> 00:33:55,826
ever returns our phone calls.
835
00:33:57,202 --> 00:33:59,954
Anyone who studied the
past knows that the CIA
836
00:33:59,955 --> 00:34:02,248
has a history of
violent cover-ups.
837
00:34:02,249 --> 00:34:04,584
MK-Ultra might
have become public,
838
00:34:04,585 --> 00:34:06,252
but that doesn't
mean there still
839
00:34:06,253 --> 00:34:07,628
aren't secrets to protect.
840
00:34:07,629 --> 00:34:10,506
By uncovering Dr. Erickson's
connection to Westview
841
00:34:10,507 --> 00:34:15,386
and discovering Bob's body,
I've put myself in danger.
842
00:34:15,387 --> 00:34:16,888
But the best way
to protect yourself
843
00:34:16,889 --> 00:34:21,392
is with the truth, which
brings me to Caroline McGrath.
844
00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:22,769
Turns out Caroline is the one
845
00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:24,854
who hired Bob to go to Westview,
846
00:34:24,855 --> 00:34:28,232
and I need to find out
why before it's too late.
847
00:34:28,233 --> 00:34:30,235
I think...
848
00:34:38,368 --> 00:34:42,246
- What the hell?
- We got lucky.
849
00:34:42,247 --> 00:34:44,916
A woman in the neighborhood
heard a commotion
850
00:34:44,917 --> 00:34:47,126
and filmed Abigail's abduction.
851
00:34:47,127 --> 00:34:48,878
Thanks to them, we were
able to track the vehicle.
852
00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:50,046
Where'd it go?
853
00:34:50,047 --> 00:34:52,965
Back to where it
all began, Westview.
854
00:34:59,014 --> 00:35:00,848
Police! Drop the weapon!
855
00:35:00,849 --> 00:35:02,183
On the ground.
856
00:35:02,184 --> 00:35:04,811
Hands on your
head. Turn around.
857
00:35:04,812 --> 00:35:05,978
Walk towards my partner.
858
00:35:05,979 --> 00:35:08,105
Hands behind your back.
859
00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:10,942
- You OK?
- Yeah, totally fine.
860
00:35:10,943 --> 00:35:12,151
Carl's going through it, though.
861
00:35:12,152 --> 00:35:14,111
I never really even
knew my mother.
862
00:35:14,112 --> 00:35:15,780
Does anyone, really?
863
00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:17,114
What is going on here?
864
00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:19,951
Well, my friend Carl
here was being pressured
865
00:35:19,952 --> 00:35:23,037
into killing me, but then,
we got to talking, right?
866
00:35:23,038 --> 00:35:24,372
- Yeah, and I couldn't.
- Yeah.
867
00:35:24,373 --> 00:35:28,960
- OK, but pressured by who?
- Um, my boss.
868
00:35:28,961 --> 00:35:30,962
- Meg Davidson.
- Who?
869
00:35:30,963 --> 00:35:33,881
The current director at
Westview Psychiatric.
870
00:35:36,009 --> 00:35:37,760
But she started
working at the hospital
871
00:35:37,761 --> 00:35:39,929
long after Julius
Erickson went mad,
872
00:35:39,930 --> 00:35:41,681
and she has no links to the CIA,
873
00:35:41,682 --> 00:35:43,182
so why would she
try to kill Abigail?
874
00:35:43,183 --> 00:35:46,769
- To cover up Bob's murder.
- And who killed Bob?
875
00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:48,855
Can you introduce yourself?
876
00:35:48,856 --> 00:35:50,815
{\an8}Oh, yes. My name is
Caroline McGrath.
877
00:35:50,816 --> 00:35:53,693
{\an8}You hired my friend, Bob Medina,
878
00:35:53,694 --> 00:35:55,194
because you had questions
879
00:35:55,195 --> 00:35:57,697
about your friend Winona's
treatment at Westview, right?
880
00:35:57,698 --> 00:35:58,948
Yes, of course, everyone thought
881
00:35:58,949 --> 00:36:02,618
I was just being
paranoid, but Bob didn't,
882
00:36:02,619 --> 00:36:03,828
and it got him killed.
883
00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:05,079
You worked with
Winona Baker, right?
884
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,458
Yes, she was hospitalized
with depression
885
00:36:09,459 --> 00:36:10,918
by her daughter.
886
00:36:10,919 --> 00:36:14,005
Seemed like therapy and some
medication would help her,
887
00:36:14,006 --> 00:36:16,841
but Winona got worse fast.
888
00:36:16,842 --> 00:36:18,718
Lost track of reality,
889
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,513
she exhibited
signs of psychosis,
890
00:36:22,514 --> 00:36:24,140
paranoia, dissociation.
891
00:36:24,141 --> 00:36:26,142
And by that point, I
wondered whether a transfer
892
00:36:26,143 --> 00:36:29,478
to a new facility might
be in her best interest.
893
00:36:29,479 --> 00:36:30,771
And then?
894
00:36:30,772 --> 00:36:32,273
The director informed
me that Winona's family
895
00:36:32,274 --> 00:36:34,984
had gotten a judge to
order a conservatorship,
896
00:36:34,985 --> 00:36:37,945
and they wanted her
to stay for good.
897
00:36:37,946 --> 00:36:39,614
You were suspicious?
898
00:36:39,615 --> 00:36:41,616
Winona always had her funks.
899
00:36:41,617 --> 00:36:43,743
But she wasn't crazy
900
00:36:43,744 --> 00:36:45,244
until that place made
her lose her mind.
901
00:36:45,245 --> 00:36:47,747
And that proved to be
the break you needed?
902
00:36:47,748 --> 00:36:49,248
Yeah, when we started
looking into it,
903
00:36:49,249 --> 00:36:52,835
it turned out a significant
number of Westview patients
904
00:36:52,836 --> 00:36:55,087
were wealthy, and
a high percentage
905
00:36:55,088 --> 00:36:57,173
were ordered into
conservatorship.
906
00:36:57,174 --> 00:37:00,009
Now, conservatorship
is extremely difficult
907
00:37:00,010 --> 00:37:03,679
to get for an adult because of
the potential abuse of power.
908
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,097
It gives one party
legal authority
909
00:37:05,098 --> 00:37:07,767
over certain aspects of
another person's life,
910
00:37:07,768 --> 00:37:09,101
including managing
all of their assets.
911
00:37:09,102 --> 00:37:11,604
It's like what happened
to Britney Spears.
912
00:37:11,605 --> 00:37:12,939
"Manage their assets"...
913
00:37:12,940 --> 00:37:14,106
rich person speak
for controlling
914
00:37:14,107 --> 00:37:16,025
someone else's money.
915
00:37:16,026 --> 00:37:19,946
Yes, and money makes
people do crazy things.
916
00:37:19,947 --> 00:37:22,949
Like poison their
family member's water
917
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:24,951
with a chemical
cocktail so potent
918
00:37:24,952 --> 00:37:26,827
it has the potential
to permanently damage
919
00:37:26,828 --> 00:37:28,579
the human psyche?
920
00:37:30,123 --> 00:37:33,709
Yeah, just like that.
921
00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:35,127
I was supposed to inherit,
922
00:37:35,128 --> 00:37:39,215
but, um, after my
break with reality,
923
00:37:39,216 --> 00:37:42,677
my dad cut me off, and my
brother got everything.
924
00:37:42,678 --> 00:37:43,886
What's everything?
925
00:37:43,887 --> 00:37:46,180
Oh, about, um, $12 million.
926
00:37:46,181 --> 00:37:48,557
It must have been hard going
from that kind of wealth
927
00:37:48,558 --> 00:37:49,976
to nannying.
- Oh, no.
928
00:37:49,977 --> 00:37:51,894
No, it was a blessing.
929
00:37:51,895 --> 00:37:55,815
I really think that helping
children was my calling.
930
00:37:55,816 --> 00:37:57,233
Mm.
931
00:37:57,234 --> 00:37:59,485
Once we found the pattern,
we started interviewing
932
00:37:59,486 --> 00:38:00,653
some of the families.
933
00:38:00,654 --> 00:38:01,821
A little pressure,
and they cracked.
934
00:38:01,822 --> 00:38:02,947
And with the search warrant,
935
00:38:02,948 --> 00:38:05,574
we found the gun used
to kill Bob Medina
936
00:38:05,575 --> 00:38:06,909
in Director Davidson's closet.
937
00:38:06,910 --> 00:38:09,787
She'd been running
her scam for a decade.
938
00:38:09,788 --> 00:38:11,914
Turns out she was
Dr. Erickson's therapist
939
00:38:11,915 --> 00:38:13,916
in the last years of his life.
940
00:38:13,917 --> 00:38:16,877
He must have told her
about his experiments.
941
00:38:16,878 --> 00:38:19,964
In exploring his old
lab, she'd uncovered
942
00:38:19,965 --> 00:38:22,717
the tainted water,
realized its potential.
943
00:38:22,718 --> 00:38:25,094
And we had her on murder, fraud,
944
00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:29,015
elder abuse, kidnapping,
attempted murder, poisoning.
945
00:38:29,016 --> 00:38:32,101
Miss Davidson, would you
like to make a comment?
946
00:38:32,102 --> 00:38:34,562
You know, this might be
your last chance to tell
947
00:38:34,563 --> 00:38:35,646
your side of the story.
948
00:38:37,607 --> 00:38:39,233
Look at all these
people watching.
949
00:38:39,234 --> 00:38:41,861
The state ordered a
full investigation
950
00:38:41,862 --> 00:38:43,946
into every conservatorship
Westview ordered.
951
00:38:43,947 --> 00:38:45,781
God willing, the
victims will get
952
00:38:45,782 --> 00:38:47,116
their rights and assets back.
953
00:38:47,117 --> 00:38:49,952
And Westview itself has
been closed for good.
954
00:38:49,953 --> 00:38:51,954
But the lawsuits
are just starting,
955
00:38:51,955 --> 00:38:54,874
not to mention the rest of
the legal ramifications.
956
00:38:54,875 --> 00:38:57,084
I'm glad this is getting
so much attention.
957
00:38:57,085 --> 00:39:01,130
These poor, abused patients
can finally get justice.
958
00:39:01,131 --> 00:39:03,257
Do you think it could
impact your case at all?
959
00:39:03,258 --> 00:39:06,719
It certainly gives my defense
a fresh coat of paint.
960
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:09,513
If the jury won't
listen to reason...
961
00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:10,931
because I am innocent...
962
00:39:10,932 --> 00:39:13,059
perhaps they will listen
to the tragic story
963
00:39:13,060 --> 00:39:16,187
of a simple tradesman
falling victim
964
00:39:16,188 --> 00:39:21,901
to a poisoned environment that
chemically affected my psyche.
965
00:39:21,902 --> 00:39:25,071
And what did that
environment make you do?
966
00:39:25,072 --> 00:39:27,615
Who can say? Certainly not me.
967
00:39:27,616 --> 00:39:30,951
I... I wasn't in my right mind.
968
00:39:30,952 --> 00:39:33,037
Yeah, the, um...
the poisoned water
969
00:39:33,038 --> 00:39:35,956
was only found in the
abandoned psych ward.
970
00:39:35,957 --> 00:39:38,834
No vending machines left
to fill there, right?
971
00:39:38,835 --> 00:39:42,963
At this point, I must
confess I did go inside
972
00:39:42,964 --> 00:39:45,883
that abandoned ward
back when I was a kid.
973
00:39:45,884 --> 00:39:48,928
{\an8}My father's warnings,
they didn't scare me away.
974
00:39:48,929 --> 00:39:52,014
{\an8}They only made me
more desperate to see.
975
00:39:52,015 --> 00:39:56,936
And whatever lurked inside...
976
00:39:56,937 --> 00:39:58,938
must have infected me.
977
00:40:01,775 --> 00:40:03,234
Hm.
978
00:40:03,235 --> 00:40:05,402
Glasser is claiming that
the presence of those drugs
979
00:40:05,403 --> 00:40:07,988
would absolve him of any
alleged responsibility
980
00:40:07,989 --> 00:40:09,323
for the murders.
981
00:40:09,324 --> 00:40:10,825
There is no way that
defense is going to work.
982
00:40:10,826 --> 00:40:13,954
We have Glasser dead to rights.
- Are you sure about that?
983
00:40:15,372 --> 00:40:17,081
Yeah.
984
00:40:17,082 --> 00:40:18,457
Mm-hmm.
985
00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:29,927
Hey, hey. Sorry.
986
00:40:29,928 --> 00:40:33,472
I know we talked about me not
recording interviews in here,
987
00:40:33,473 --> 00:40:37,434
but Rodge mentioned he needed
a space with great acoustics.
988
00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:39,562
And, you know, we're
shutting it down.
989
00:40:39,563 --> 00:40:40,938
We're shutting it
down. Shut it...
990
00:40:40,939 --> 00:40:44,441
shut it down.
- Shutting it down, copy.
991
00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:45,151
Hi. Sorry.
992
00:40:45,152 --> 00:40:46,527
She said this was cool.
993
00:40:46,528 --> 00:40:47,611
You're going to help me get
these in the van, right?
994
00:40:47,612 --> 00:40:49,864
I'll be right there.
995
00:40:49,865 --> 00:40:53,367
Next time, handcuffs
and squad cars.
996
00:40:53,368 --> 00:40:55,452
Yeah, totally understandable.
997
00:40:57,539 --> 00:40:58,873
Thanks again for going
exclusive with me.
998
00:40:58,874 --> 00:41:02,168
Seriously, this doc
is going to be huge.
999
00:41:02,169 --> 00:41:03,669
I hope so.
1000
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:05,963
You deserve something good
after what you've been through.
1001
00:41:05,964 --> 00:41:08,549
How are you holding up?
- Oh, I'm... I'm fine.
1002
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:10,926
I'm happy to have
something to focus on.
1003
00:41:10,927 --> 00:41:12,303
When I've been through
some scary times,
1004
00:41:12,304 --> 00:41:16,724
I have been guilty of using
my work as my therapy,
1005
00:41:16,725 --> 00:41:19,685
but if there's ever a time
you need someone to talk to...
1006
00:41:19,686 --> 00:41:21,020
Thank you. Really.
1007
00:41:21,021 --> 00:41:22,897
But I already have
a great therapist,
1008
00:41:22,898 --> 00:41:25,399
one with zero
history at Westview.
1009
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,860
Excellent.
1010
00:41:27,861 --> 00:41:29,778
You know, there's still
something I can't figure out.
1011
00:41:29,779 --> 00:41:32,781
How did you know that Bob the PI
1012
00:41:32,782 --> 00:41:34,116
was working for
Caroline McGrath.
1013
00:41:34,117 --> 00:41:37,870
Oh, Bob told me while we
were stuck in the lab.
1014
00:41:37,871 --> 00:41:40,748
He got chatty once he opened up.
1015
00:41:40,749 --> 00:41:42,541
I have that effect on people.
1016
00:41:44,002 --> 00:41:46,837
We had to come back because
our job isn't finished.
1017
00:41:46,838 --> 00:41:48,172
This hospital has
housed killers,
1018
00:41:48,173 --> 00:41:51,050
evil experiments, and
perhaps the supernatural.
1019
00:41:51,051 --> 00:41:53,177
Our job as investigators
is to collect
1020
00:41:53,178 --> 00:41:56,055
and present questions
and possibilities.
1021
00:41:56,056 --> 00:41:59,934
Interpretation, however,
solely belongs with you.
1022
00:41:59,935 --> 00:42:02,603
Did Westview really...
1023
00:42:07,943 --> 00:42:10,778
Should we check that out?
1024
00:42:10,779 --> 00:42:12,821
I might be good.
1025
00:42:12,822 --> 00:42:14,823
You know what? Me too.
1026
00:42:17,494 --> 00:42:19,620
Whoo!
1027
00:42:19,621 --> 00:42:20,705
Oh, God!
1028
00:42:55,865 --> 00:42:56,950
Damn it.
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