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'The following programme
contains strong language.'
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(ON TV) "The Prime Minister of
Sweden, Mr Olof Palme,
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has been assassinated."
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'Stieg Larsson. I spent ten years
trying to solve the murder
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of our Prime Minister.'
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MAN: The police did not talk
to all the witnesses.
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There are so many signs that this
was actually an organised crime.
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The apartheid regime, its greatest
threat was a massive tide
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of anti-apartheid activity
because of Olof Palme.
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Alf Enerstrom, he was
Sweden's largest Palme hater.
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But this was the real breakthrough.
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This is the dossier on Bertil Wedin.
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Stieg Larsson was right.
Bertil Wedin was
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the perfect middleman in the murder
of our Swedish prime minister.
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I felt like I was starting to see
Stieg's main theory.
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The South Africans wanted
to get rid of Olof Palme
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because of political motives.
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There was a middleman in Europe
who connected them with someone or
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some group to help in
the assassination.
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But who or what I didn't know.
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And I'm convinced
Stieg would have solved the murder.
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He would have gone all the way
if he had lived.
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If I was going to prove
Stieg Larsson's theory,
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I knew I had to start
digging deeper around South Africa
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and their secret operatives.
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Over three decades later, with
apartheid gone, would anyone talk?
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I managed to meet
and speak with Vic McPherson,
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who had helped carry out
the bombing in London
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for the South African
apartheid regime.
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REPORTER: "A man who works
for the ANC as a researcher was
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inside the building,
but only slightly hurt.
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He managed to escape
through a second floor window."
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I tried to find out
if there was anything else
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he would tell me
about their secret operations.
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Possibly the Olof Palme assassination.
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When it came to South Africa,
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I was having difficulty
getting any new information.
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This world of spies
and agents and murders,
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it's all about who you know.
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You had to be careful
about your security.
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You need someone with connections.
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And there's one person who has better
contacts than anyone else.
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(LINE RINGS)
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Oh, Goran. How are you doing?
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This is Jan calling from Sweden.
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I was in South Africa.
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Take care. OK.
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I met Jan Stocklassa in 2015
because we had a shared interest
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in the Palme case and
we've kept the contact ever since.
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I am Goran Bjorkdahl.
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I was a Swedish diplomat in Africa
for 15 years.
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I had no intention to look
at the Palme case.
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But in May 2014 I had a dinner
with a journalist in Pretoria,
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and at the end of the dinner
he said, I have some documents
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that I think you should look at
regarding the Olof Palme case.
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I took them and I started reading
when I came into my hotel room
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and I just couldn't stop.
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They are copies of what is claimed
to be official documents,
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top-secret documents
from the military intelligence.
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They are sometimes called
the deep search papers.
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And in these documents it is written
that the State Security Council
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of South Africa branded Olof Palme
an Enemy of the State,
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which is practically
a death sentence.
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The deep search documents come from
a time when apartheid had just ended.
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The situation was quite chaotic
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and some people started selling documents,
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maybe even faking documents.
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So at first when I read it,
I was a little bit sceptical.
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I had to know whether these
documents are authentic.
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I handed over the deep search papers
and asked for his comment.
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So this is when I realised
Stieg's theory.
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The South African security forces
were working together
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with Swedish right wingers
and extremists.
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Fanatics.
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Bertil Wedin, originally from Sweden,
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he is the middleman
and he brings them all together.
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I now needed to refocus my efforts
on the fanatics in Sweden.
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And there was one name
I couldn't forget.
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Alf Enerstrom,
Sweden's largest Palme hater.
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I had found out
that his alibi was not valid.
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He had told me
several important things.
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He had told me how he was
asked to fund the murder.
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He had told me he was in Sveavagen
that night, and he had told me
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that he knew who was
behind the murder.
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So I wanted to
go back to Alf Enerstrom to see
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if I could find out more.
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But when I tried to arrange
to meet him again, I find out
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that he has passed away.
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I had hit another dead end.
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I needed to go back to my notes,
to the documents.
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Stieg had a lot on Alf Enerstrom.
It's so interesting.
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I had found out that there
was some sort of mysterious person
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that seemed to be like his assistant
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that spent time with him
for many years.
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He worked under the pseudonym
Rikard, and he's wearing disguises.
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He's wearing a wig. But at the same
time, it doesn't look like hair.
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It looks like a bad perm.
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(CHUCKLES)
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This is just incredibly weird,
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and I had no idea who he was.
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In 1987, the security police
had asked for him to be followed.
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The police wanted permission to
eavesdrop their phones.
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The reason they gave was
that Alf Enerstrom
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could be suspected of instigating
or inciting the murder.
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I knew I had to track him down.
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I could see in the police files
that in 1987,
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only one year after the murder,
the secret police
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had organised surveillance of Rikard,
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this wig-wearing mysterious person
that was close to Alf Enerstrom
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for more than a decade.
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Here's all his
interviews with the police.
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They started following him
in November 1986,
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and in the files
was the name of the security agent
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that was following him.
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In the 1980s, I was asked
by the Swedish security police
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to keep tabs
on a very, very strange person
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that we called "The Wig Man".
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He was called "The Wig Man"
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because he was very often
using a huge wig
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because he wanted to disguise
himself. (LAUGHS)
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My boss at the security police
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was interested in the wig man
because they didn't know who he was
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and what his purposes was.
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There were thoughts
that he might have been involved
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in the murder of Olof Palme
in one way or another.
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One year after the murder, Rikard was
taken in for interrogation,
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and the police asked him, "What did
you do on the night of the murder?"
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And he didn't remember.
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Everybody remembers what he did in
the night of the murder in Sweden.
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And this secret assistant to
Alf Enerstrom,
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Sweden's largest Palme hater,
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had no idea if he was working
or not working.
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And I'd been given his real name,
David Fredin.
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So with Enerstrom dead,
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maybe this was the person
who could tell me more.
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I've tried to write to David to see
if he would talk to me.
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I've called him.
He doesn't want to talk.
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So I need to take it
to another level.
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I start looking at social networks,
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and on Facebook I find
a few called David Fredin.
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But there's only one in Sweden.
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Most of their friends
are middle-aged men,
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and there are several well-known
right wingers in Sweden.
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Now I know I've got the right guy.
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And I'm thinking,
how do I get closer to David Fredin?
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But there is another person
that stands out.
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It's a beautiful girl.
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Maybe a little bit too beautiful
to be a real profile picture.
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She's got a Czech name,
and she's called Lida Komarkova.
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So I wasn't sure, but I thought it
was a fake profile.
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But I think is there any other way
to get to David?
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Let's at least try it.
I decided to send a brief message.
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And there was no response.
Not a day later, not a week later.
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Only some months later.
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(CHIMES)
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I'm thinking, is this a fake profile?
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I'm thinking, is this a trap?
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But in any case, it's worth the risk.
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I was sending one message
and then she answered,
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it could take it a day
or even a week.
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(CHIMES)
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It seems like that person
is fishing for information
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about me
just as much as I am fishing.
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It started to feel like
a cat and mouse game and I realised
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I needed to get a reaction from this
person to see if he or she was real.
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There was a pause for a few days.
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And then...
(CHIMES)
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I'd already been to Northern Cyprus.
I'd tracked down Alf Enerstrom.
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So I was thinking, what can I lose?
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So I just took a chance.
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She mentioned the name of a bar.
(CHIMES)
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A time.
(CHIMES)
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And it said...
(CHIMES)
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I had started to become
a little bit addicted
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to the rush of doing
these out of the ordinary things.
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So just to go to Prague
to meet a possible news source,
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that seemed pretty normal, suddenly.
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The Palme virus is dangerous.
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You will do things
you would never expect.
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So I arrive in Prague
and I go to this bar.
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I sit down by the counter
and I order two Moscow mules,
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and then I'm waiting.
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I was there more than an hour.
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The bar is pretty full with people
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and I'm thinking she's not coming
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or he or whoever.
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There's this woman that I've seen
circling around in the bar,
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but it's not the picture
from the Facebook profile.
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She suddenly sits down
on the empty seat next to me
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and starts drinking from
the Moscow mule.
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And I'm saying,
"Hey, stop. That's not for you."
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And she's saying, "Yes, it is."
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I ask a couple of questions.
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And then
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I realised that's her.
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That's Lida Komarkova.
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I got to the bar some time earlier
because I wanted
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to check on him, what he's doing,
how he's behaving.
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He looks kind of safe. No danger.
So I go over to him.
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I'm a little bit suspicious
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of what her purposes are
and what she's hiding.
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At that stage, I'm living in Prague.
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I live a normal life,
normal friends,
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with a normal job
from ten till five.
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And it's so boring.
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I just needed excitement and
I just needed a kick in my life.
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And it felt like an adventure.
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It felt like fun to meet
the guy from Sweden in a bar.
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Why not? (CHUCKLES)
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It's a crazy story that
just keeps getting crazier.
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Sometimes I just create
fake profiles.
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It's fun. You can choose
how you look like, your hair.
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I had about, I don't know,
five fake profiles,
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and one of them was Lida.
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I've been joining lots of groups
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about things
that I was interested in.
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And sometimes I would add people
from the groups as a friend.
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And one of them was David.
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Jan starts to tell me about he's
interested in Olof Palme's murder.
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I'm telling her
why I'm looking into David Fredin.
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For that David might have
some information.
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And she sort of lights up.
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I can see that she thinks this is
quite exciting,
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and I'm thinking
maybe she can help me,
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even if she doesn't know him
that well.
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I wasn't close to trusting her,
but at the same time,
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this is my only chance
to get closer to David Fredin.
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If you don't risk anything,
you don't get anything.
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I told him, I see what I can do.
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I'll get back to you.
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(PHONE LINE RINGS)
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Hey, Goran, how's it going?
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How would it work?
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I spoke to the general
in the military intelligence
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and asked him, what do you think?
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Would it be possible
to promote the kind of negotiation
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where Sweden, or the prosecutor,
gives you immunity
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against prosecution,
and the guys who did it,
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they come forward
- and tell the story.
- Wow.
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(VIBRATES)
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I was called by a man
active in intelligence.
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Let's call him Frank.
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He will arrange a meeting for me
with somebody very important.
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He said you come to the Hyatt Hotel
at 1:30.
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We sat at the table.
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Frank tells me that we are going to
see this very high-ranking general
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in the military intelligence
in South Africa,
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somebody who is active today.
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And then a man comes over
to our table and he sat down.
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He tells me that he knows all about
my idea for Sweden to give immunity
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against prosecution
if the guys who did it come forward.
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He had three meetings
with the Army leadership
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in South Africa in order
to prepare for this meeting,
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and they had given him
the mandate to talk to me.
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I realised then
that there is a misunderstanding.
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They all seem to assume
that I was on official business,
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that I was representing
the Swedish government,
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which I wasn't.
This is just a hobby.
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(CHUCKLES)
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I'm thinking that I may get very,
very important information here.
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So I turn on the recorder
on my mobile phone...
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And he said, this is dangerous
and I should be careful.
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So he said that South Africa
is willing to help
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Sweden solve the case.
But there were two conditions.
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One condition was that
no South African could
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ever be prosecuted because they were
under orders of their government.
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The general explains to me
that I should take this information
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to the intelligence in Sweden
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and that the two intelligence
services in South Africa and Sweden,
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they were going to prepare
the solution -
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or how it should be presented.
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Wow. Yeah, that was
a pretty clear message for me.
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This confirms what you and I have
been thinking for many years.
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There was actually South African
involvement in the murder.
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It sounded close to an admission.
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The South Africans
would consider some kind of deal
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to close the case forever.
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But Stieg's theory was
they hadn't acted alone.
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The South Africans were
using the middleman,
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Bertil Wedin, to connect them
to the Swedish right wingers.
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I tried to get to the mystery
assistant, David Fredin,
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who had worked for a decade
with Alf Enerstrom
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and operated under a pseudonym. Rikard.
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But it had seemingly come to nothing.
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And then, a few months later,
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on the doorstep, I found an envelope
and it was stamped in Prague.
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I opened it and
there was a USB stick inside.
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I was taking a risk when I put it
straight into my computer,
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but I was curious. When I open it up,
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I see it's something I would
never have expected.
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I assumed that the USB stick
came from Lida Komarkova in Prague,
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but I couldn't know.
When I open it up,
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there were two folders. One called
Facebook. One called Emails.
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And I opened one of them.
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And there's a dialogue between
Lida Komarkova and David Fredin,
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this wig-wearing mysterious assistant
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that was close to Alf Enerstrom
for more than a decade.
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It's unbelievable.
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Lida has managed to lead David Fredin
to tell things that he had probably
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never told anybody
through three decades.
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How did she do this?
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And I found a couple of messages
where he's actually speaking about
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his hatred against all of parliament,
even one when he's celebrating
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the anniversary of the murder,
drinking a glass of wine
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to celebrate the death of the traitor
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and how he has
planned to murder Olof Palme
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when he was 12, 13 years old,
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thinking that he could get away
with it since he was so young.
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It's like being a fly on the wall
on the Palme hater at the time.
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These right-wing fanatics
thought that Palme was a traitor,
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that he was actually
travelling to Moscow.
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Sweden would become another
region of the Soviet Union.
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So David is quite open
telling them about Dr Enerstrom,
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who he admires, who he had been
working for, for several years,
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and then suddenly he's
talking about another person
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that he admires a lot,
about the mysterious friend.
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And it takes quite a long time. But
then in the end, he says who it is.
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It's Bertil Wedin,
the middleman in Cyprus.
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Bertil Wedin, a man who had
connections to one of South Africa's
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most famous operatives and killers,
Craig Williamson.
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And he also tells me that
Alf Enerstrom knew Bertil Wedin.
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Immediately, as I read this,
I got goosebumps.
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Enerstrom knows the middleman,
Bertil Wedin,
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who is working for
the South African Security Service
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with Craig Williamson at the top.
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This is really big. Nobody had ever
made that connection.
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Stieg Larsson didn't make
the connection.
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The Swedish police didn't make
the connection.
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This was the first time.
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So suddenly there is a connection
between all of the cells
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that were needed to actually
carry out this killing.
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There's still one other folder.
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And I click on it and
there are at least 5,000 emails...
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between David Fredin and
Bertil Wedin.
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It's unbelievable.
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And I'm thinking,
who the hell is this woman
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and how did she get these?
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I have friends
that can do interesting things.
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I decided that it's ethically OK.
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It's of high public interest.
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And I start reading and I stay there
for several hours.
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Just reading and reading.
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They are paranoid.
They mention all the time
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how they think they're hacked.
How they're being bugged.
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They're describing people
that are following them.
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Bertil is giving advice
how David should act.
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And in one email, David asks for
advice on a woman on Facebook
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who has approached him,
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and he describes how
interested she's been
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in the Palme assassination.
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Bertil Wedin replies and tells David
not to mention his name
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in such serious matters.
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But for the first time I saw my own
name in an email from David
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to Bertil Wedin,
the hair on the back of my neck rose.
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Cos I realised they're on to me
as I'm on to them.
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I try once more to get
in touch with David.
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I write to him, I call him,
but he refuses to speak to me.
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Why do you refuse to
talk with Jan Stocklassa?
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He doesn't like what I was doing.
It doesn't like that
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I'm anti-communist.
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He read thousands of my emails
and yet I'm not surprised.
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You know, this is a business like
any business.
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The Cold War never ended.
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Interview with the man
formerly known as Rikard.
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My name is David Fredin.
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And because of the political situation,
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I used an alias, Rikard.
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I used a wig to be more
difficult to identify me
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by hostile elements like the KGB.
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My father told me that
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there was an arrest of
a Soviet spy in my country.
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It was a colonel in the Air Force.
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And so I knew, you know,
from a young age, what a spy was.
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So when I saw Mr Palme, who was then
the prime minister of Sweden,
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walking alongside the North
Vietnamese ambassador to Moscow,
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I suspected, at that age,
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that Palme was also somebody
that spied.
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In 1985,
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I made my way into Stockholm,
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and this was the first time
I met Dr Enerstrom.
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He dedicated his life to be
a real opposition for us to Palme.
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There was nobody else out there
who wanted to do the job.
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They called it Palme hatred.
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I eventually became
Dr Enerstrom's assistant.
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Dr Enerstrom's goal
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was that Palme
should not win elections.
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They had a lot of names
of people who donated in money,
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sometimes from the United States.
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So I was in charge of
the briefcase with the names
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and addresses and telephone numbers.
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Sometimes they dropped money
at a public toilet,
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but where you draw down
the paper towels.
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I was told that the day
before he was killed,
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Palme met with
the Soviet intelligence
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to hand over the case of the kingdom
to the KGB.
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He's one of the worst traitors
in Swedish history.
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I can't find anybody
that does Sweden so much harm.
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So I'm convinced that David Fredin
knows much more than he's telling us.
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Alf Enerstrom, he had told me that he
had been on Sveavagen that night,
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he had told me that he had been asked
to fund the murder,
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and he had told me
that he knew who was involved -
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and it included
members of the police.
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I know that there was
someone that came to Dr Enerstrom.
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I think he worked for the Swedish
police, some branch of it,
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and brought up the question
of an assassination,
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of removing Palme.
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00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,880
But Dr Enerstrom told me afterwards
that he turned them down.
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00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,440
Come on. This is Sweden's biggest
Palme hater who no longer
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has an alibi for the murder.
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Neither of them have an alibi
for the night.
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Most people don't have alibis
for a night.
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And if you have an alibi, you should
start to wonder, you know?
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You know, it's a bit suspicious.
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Something is telling me I'm getting
closer and closer to the truth.
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Be careful
who you believe and who you trust.
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00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:57,480
Most of Jan Stocklassa's information
comes from Stieg Larsson.
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00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,880
And we shouldn't trust Stieg Larsson
and the communists.
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If somebody asks me about who is
behind Lida Komarkova,
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I would say she is working for
the Russian Secret Service, FSB,
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previous KGB. That would be
a logical conclusion.
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00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,080
Jan Stocklassa's behaviour is
the same.
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00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,680
He's doing beneficial works
for the Russian intelligence.
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He's doing everything
like a KGB agent.
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He might not be a KGB agent,
but he's doing the same stuff.
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And I think somebody
needs to tell him to shut up.
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Everything I've seen and heard
makes me
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more convinced than ever that
Stieg Larsson's theory stands up.
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At the height of the Cold War,
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the hatred against Palme
was being whipped into a frenzy.
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Fanatics on the right were willing
and ready to kill Olof Palme.
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00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,800
But that was just part of the story.
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00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,200
So here's how I think it happened.
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Olof Palme had many enemies
on the world stage,
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but there were two groups
in particular who came
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together in February 1986.
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(GUNSHOT)
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South Africa had named him
an enemy of the state
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because of his political activities.
439
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,920
This was a regime
desperately clinging to power.
440
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Olof Palme was the driving force,
the general,
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the commandant of the international
movement against apartheid.
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In Sweden, the right wingers wanted
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to get rid of him because
they thought he was a traitor.
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00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,960
These two separate groups, they had
double motives but with a shared aim.
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The operation to kill Olof Palme
had been planned by South Africa.
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There was a planning group operated
with someone like
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possibly Craig Williamson.
448
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,320
Hunt them down,
catch them and shoot them.
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One of the foulest individuals
that has walked this Earth.
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Someone who knew Sweden,
who had contacts there.
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Williamson shouldn't have
been there in Sweden.
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By this time, he's known as The Spy.
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00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,280
But even South Africa's
best operatives needed
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contacts and
assistance on the ground.
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So they turned to someone who they
had worked extensively with before.
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The middleman who had
a foot in both countries.
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00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,080
Bertil Wedin.
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00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,040
I had proved
that Bertil Wedin had contacts
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00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,920
with fanatics inside Sweden
that despised Palme.
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00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,840
Individuals in many of the groups
Stieg had been investigating.
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00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,880
But I believe an incredibly
important contact was
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Sweden's biggest Palme hater.
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He was a man who had money,
influential backers,
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and access to plenty of fanatics
who believed
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Palme was about to turn Sweden
into another Soviet state.
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And like he said,
I think one or two extremists
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he knew within the police
had helped carry out the operation.
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They have walkie-talkies,
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they're communicating, they're being
seen by several witnesses.
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And it all combined
into an organised setup
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to kill our Prime Minister.
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I may not be able to show
who pulled the trigger,
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but to me this is almost irrelevant
because I think we found
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who was ultimately behind
the assassination,
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00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,960
their motives and how it happened.
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00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,120
After my ten years of investigation,
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00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,560
I decided to compile my material
and hand everything in to the police.
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And then the prosecutor steps out and
says, "We have solved the murder."
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And I'm saying, "Wow."
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00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,840
I had put in so much work
for so many years,
481
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,880
my life had been turned upside down.
482
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,760
I'd put myself to danger but now
everything was going to be worth it.
483
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,880
I have helped them to crack the case,
484
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,840
solve this unsolvable riddle.
485
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,600
So it's been building up
for a few months.
486
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,520
We're coming close to the day
when they will announce
487
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,040
who murdered our Prime Minister.
488
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,960
And the whole of Sweden
is standing still.
489
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,720
Everybody's waiting for what
the police will say.
490
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:56,320
Finally, after 34 years, the Swedes
were going to have the truth
491
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,600
about who killed Olof Palme and why.
492
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:09,240
And then the press conference starts.
493
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,880
I'm nervous. I'm excited.
494
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,320
They start mentioning
everything I have investigated,
495
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,360
the adrenaline, it's just pumping.
496
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,360
And it's like a detective story has
become real life.
497
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,960
Finally the case will be solved.
498
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,920
And we have been part of that.
499
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,320
When I'm looking at this press
conference, I'm beginning to notice
500
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,880
their body language and
they don't look confident at all.
501
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:03,160
But I'm starting to sense that
there's something that is not right.
502
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,880
And then they come
with the big revelation.
503
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,720
Stieg Engstrom is a witness
who contacted the police
504
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,600
several times
to ask to be interviewed.
505
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:05,000
He is a graphic designer
at the insurance company Skandia
506
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,760
that is situated very close
to the crossing
507
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,800
where Palme was assassinated.
508
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,360
I'm fucking angry. It's outrageous.
509
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,160
There is no murder weapon,
there are no forensics,
510
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,120
and there is no motive at all.
511
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,120
No way. No fucking way.
512
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,280
They've spent all this time,
all this money,
513
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,760
and all we got was a fucking ugly
PowerPoint presentation.
514
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,840
I know they're wrong,
they know they're wrong,
515
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,000
but they're still saying it. It's...
516
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,520
The suspect is dead so we can't
pursue the investigation anymore.
517
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,680
Full stop.
518
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,560
They're saying
that it's not South Africa.
519
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:27,560
It's not a conspiracy. It's this
graphic designer working overtime
520
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,800
who we know clocks out just one to
two minutes before the murder.
521
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,440
Where did he get the gun from?
522
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,440
How come he stepped out of the door
just at the right moment?
523
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,480
And what motive did he have?
524
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,960
He's not the one that I saw.
525
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,640
It wasn't "The Skandia Man"
who killed our Prime Minister.
526
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,800
It was the prosecutors
who killed the investigation
527
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,840
by using "The Skandia Man".
528
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,760
We are definitely being lied to
and this is extremely disturbing
529
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,120
and there is something rotten
at the centre of it.
530
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:04,720
If it looks like a cover-up,
if it smells as a cover-up,
531
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:06,760
it is a cover-up.
532
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,320
After the press conference,
I felt completely empty
533
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,880
and disappointed.1โ2
Me too.
534
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,880
And I called my intelligence contact
in South Africa.
535
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,320
They wanted him to tell me
a little bit about what
536
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,880
had been said in South Africa, and I
actually record the conversation.
537
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,440
"Ah-ha."
538
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:45,720
"OK."
539
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,800
"OK."
It's outrageous.
540
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,600
So there was a deal.
541
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,920
Exactly. There is finally a deal.
542
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,040
But a deal to put the lid on,
- it seems.
- Yeah.
543
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,600
There must be something really,
really sensitive
544
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,240
that cannot see
the light of the day.
545
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:29,280
And we don't know exactly
what that is.
546
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,600
Many years of work.
547
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,720
And they blew it.
548
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,760
With the right people
in the right way,
549
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,200
they would solve it
in a few months' time.
550
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,320
And I believe it will be the solution
that Stieg Larsson laid out
551
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,360
30 years ago.
552
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,280
The Swedish people deserve better.
553
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,560
I think that Stieg Larsson
deserves better.
554
00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:30,360
And I definitely think Olof Palme
and his family deserve better.
555
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,280
What would you like the first line
of your obituary to say?
556
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:51,320
The moment people begin to
think of their obituaries,
557
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,720
they start to be scared.
558
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:58,080
They don't dare to do things
and they lose their vitality.
559
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,480
What's the legacy of my father?
560
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,880
I remember him
as being very brave to confront
561
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,840
society's injustices
wherever he saw them.
562
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,160
What is... apartheid?
563
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,480
It is a continued development
564
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,960
of the privileged racist minority.
565
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,560
He said that you should
see yourself in action.
566
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:27,400
You can't only be,
you have to act to be.
567
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:34,600
Olof Palme was an inspiration
to millions way beyond the borders
568
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,280
of his own country.
And in that sense,
569
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,320
he is still a loss.
570
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,640
We say we should forgive and forget.
571
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,760
I'll never forgive them
for killing Olof Palme.
572
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,240
I'll never forget it.
573
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,160
I don't think it's too late
to solve this crime.
574
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,120
Even if the police
and the prosecutor have given up,
575
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,160
the rest of us haven't.
576
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,000
There are thousands upon thousands
of us
577
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,880
all around the world
who had the Palme virus.
578
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,080
It infected Stieg Larsson.
579
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,880
It infected me.
580
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,760
And just like a real virus,
once you catch it,
581
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,320
pass it on to those you get close to.
582
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,920
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