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Tammy Faye: I THINK THE EYES ARE SO IMPORTANT.

I BELIEVE THEY ARE THE EYES OF THE SOUL. I TRULY DO.

AND I THINK YOU CAN LOOK IN SOMEONE'S EYES

AND REALLY TELL WHAT KIND OF A PERSON AND WHAT THEIR HEART IS.

AND SO WHEN MY PRECIOUS FRIENDS DIE,

I ALWAYS ASK IF I COULD PLEASE HAVE THEIR GLASSES.

WHEN MY MOM DIED,

I GOT MY MAMA'S GLASSES,

AND THEY'RE VERY, VERY PRECIOUS TO ME.

I LIKE TO PUT THEM ON SOMETIMES AND THINK,

"YOU KNOW, MAMA LOOKED THROUGH THESE.

RuPaul: TAMMY FAYE IS THE FIRST LADY OF RELIGIOUS BROADCASTING.

TOGETHER, WITH HER HUSBAND JIM BAKKER,

SHE PIONEERED THE ELECTRIC CHURCH.

FROM THE SIXTIES THROUGH THE MID-EIGHTIES,

THEY BUILT NOT ONE, BUT 3 RELIGIOUS NETWORKS,

GROWING THE MEDIUM FROM A MOTLEY GROUP OF LOCAL STATIONS

INTO A GLOBAL CONCERN.

AT THEIR PEAK, THEY PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST

AND MOST SUCCESSFUL CHRISTIAN TELEVISION MINISTRY OF ITS DAY.

THEIR CHRISTIAN RETREAT, HERITAGE U.S.A.,

WAS, AFTER DISNEY WORLD AND DISNEYLAND,

AMERICA'S MOST POPULAR THEME PARK.

THEN, IN THE MID-EIGHTIES,

THEIR WORLD CAME CRASHING DOWN.

Reporter: TROUBLES FOR JIM BAKKER BEGAN

WITH THE REVELATION OF HIS SEXUAL ENCOUNTER WITH JESSICA HAHN.

Second reporter: TAMMY BAKKER CAME OUT OF THE CLOSET

TO REVEAL HERSELF AS A DRUG ADDICT.

WE DID NOT ASK JERRY FALWELL

TO TAKE OVER OUR MINISTRY.

Third reporter: THE MINISTRY IS NOW STRUGGLING WITH A $16-MILLION DEBT.

THE U.S. BANKRUPTCY COURT IS NOW...

Fourth reporter: THE GOVERNMENT SAID BAKKER WAS A SLICK CON MAN,

CHEATING HIS FOLLOWERS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

RuPaul: WHATEVER HAPPENED TO TAMMY FAYE?

12 LONG YEARS AFTER HER FALL FROM GRACE,

TAMMY LIVES IN VIRTUAL EXILE

IN A GATED COMMUNITY IN PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA.

Tammy: OK, I'M GOING TO READ YOU MY POEM.

ARE YOU READY?

"LONELINESS CLINGS TO ME LIKE A SECOND SKIN,

"THREATENING TO SMOTHER ME FROM WITHIN.

"WHY GET READY FOR THE DAY?

"WHAT DOES IT MATTER TO MYSELF, I SAY?

"MY BODY ACHES ALL NIGHT, ALL DAY,

"AND I'M TOO TIRED TO EVEN PRAY.

"MUNDANE HOUSEHOLD CHORES I DO,

"VACUUM FLOORS AND PICK UP POO.

"I TRY NOT TO THINK OF DAYS GONE BY,

"TO DO SO ONLY MAKES ME CRY.

WHY ME, GOD, I SAY, WHY?"

IT'S A LITTLE DRAMATIC, I GUESS,

BUT IT'S HOW I FELT AT THE TIME.

I'VE OFTEN THOUGHT I SHOULD PROBABLY BE ON BROADWAY--

[LAUGHS] WITH ALL MY DRAMA.

Both:...

WHEN SHE WAS BORN, SHE HAD PERFECTLY MANICURED FINGERNAILS.

RuPaul: THE ELDEST OF 8 CHILDREN,

TAMMY FAYE LaVALLEY GREW UP IN INTERNATIONAL FALLS, MINNESOTA.

Virginia Fairchild: THEIR HOUSE WAS BIG ENOUGH FOR ALL OF THEM,

BUT NOT A NICE ONE.

IN THOSE DAYS, YOU DIDN'T SPEND MONEY

FOR ANYTHING BUT FOOD AND CLOTHES,

BECAUSE YOU JUST DIDN'T HAVE IT, YOU KNOW?

I DON'T THINK SHE HAD A VERY HAPPY...

GROWING-UP YEARS, YOU KNOW?

I MEAN, WHAT DID SHE REALLY HAVE TO BE OVERLY OVERJOYED ABOUT?

I MEAN, HELPING TAKE CARE OF KIDS, YEAH,

BECAUSE SHE HAD TO.

RuPaul: BUT EVEN IN HER TEENS,

TAMMY HAD HER FAITH TO TURN TO.

SHE HAD A LITTLE WART ON ONE FINGER.

SHE ASKED GOD,

AND THE MESSAGE THAT SHE GOT WAS,

"PUT THAT FINGER IN THE COMMUNION CUP BEFORE YOU DRINK."

AND SHE BROUGHT IT OUT,

PARTOOK OF THE BREAD AND THE JUICE,

AND THE WART WAS GONE.

WE HAD BEEN RAISED IN THE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD.

AND WE ALWAYS SORT OF FELT

THE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD PREACHED THAT

GOD WAS LOOKING DOWN AT YOU FROM HEAVEN

WITH A BIG HUGE HAMMER IN HIS HAND

AND THAT IF YOU DID ANYTHING WRONG,

HE WAS GOING TO HIT YOU OVER THE HEAD WITH THIS HAMMER

AND SEND YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL.

Johnny Grover: SHE WAS ALMOST SCARED INTO STAYING CLOSE TO GOD.

I STILL SAY ADA DEHREN IS HER SAVIOR,

BECAUSE SHE WAS THE ONE THAT BOUGHT THE MAKE-UP AT THE RUMMAGE SALE.

[LAUGHS] THEY WERE THE FIRST ONES TO TRY MAKE-UP.

SEE ALL THIS STUFF? LOOK AT ALL THIS STUFF.

THAT'S MY BLUSH. IT'S ALMOST GONE.

I GOT TO GO TO THE SWAP MEET AND GET SOME MORE.

I BUY IT AT THE SWAP MEET.

MY POWDER THAT KIND OF--

WHEN I CRY, IT TAKES AWAY THE TEARS.

THIS IS MY EYEBROW STUFF,

ALTHOUGH I DON'T REALLY NEED TO PUT ON EYEBROW STUFF,

BECAUSE ME EYEBROWS ARE PERMANENT.

THIS TURNS PINK WHEN YOU PUT IT ON.

SEE? BUT IT'S WHITE TO START WITH.

EYELASH GLUE.

OH, HERE'S-- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

OH, HERE'S MY MASCARA THAT I'M SO FAMOUS FOR.

AS YOU SEE, IT IS L'OREAL WATERPROOF LASH OUT MAKE-UP.

AND, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S MUCH USED.

MUCH LOVED.

THEY ARE PUT ON SINGLY,

AND, UH, WITH LOTS OF MASCARA.

THEY DON'T COME OFF, I MEAN, THEY'RE...

THEY HAVE TO, LITERALLY, KIND OF WEAR OFF.

AND SO, ONCE IN A WHILE, ONE WILL DROP OFF,

AND WHEN IT DOES, I PUT ANOTHER ONE IN.

WITHOUT MY EYELASHES, I WOULDN'T BE TAMMY FAYE.

I DON'T KNOW WHO I'D BE, BUT I WOULDN'T BE ME.

RuPaul: IN 1960, AGED 17, TAMMY WENT TO BIBLE COLLEGE

WHERE SHE MET AND FELL IN LOVE

WITH A YOUNG, CHARISMATIC PREACHER NAMED JIM BAKKER.

THE NEXT YEAR, ON APRIL FOOL'S DAY, JIM AND TAMMY WERE MARRIED.

THE YOUNG NEWLYWEDS LIVED ON THE ROAD,

STRUGGLING TO MAKE A LIVING AS ITINERANT PREACHERS,

JOINING A TRADITION OF TRAVELING EVANGELISM

PIONEERED BY MINISTERS LIKE ORAL ROBERTS.

EVERYTHING THAT'S EVERY BEEN DONE THAT'S WORTHWHILE

HAS BEEN DONE BY MEN,

BY WOMEN WHO SAID, "I DON'T CARE WHAT THE COST IS,

I'M GOING TO DO THIS FOR THE GLORY OF GOD."

RuPaul: A BLEND OF CHRISTIANITY AND SHOWMANSHIP,

IT WAS A GROWING TREND THAT WOULD CULMINATE

IN THE CREATION OF TELEVANGELISM...

THE ELECTRIC CHURCH.

TODAY, IT BOASTS OVER 2,500 RADIO AND TV STATIONS,

REACHING AN ESTIMATED AUDIENCE OF 20 MILLION PEOPLE.

SATELLITES CIRCLE THE GLOBE,

BEAMING OUT THOUSANDS OF PROGRAMS

24 HOURS A DAY, 7 DAYS A WEEK,

AND GENERATING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN REVENUE.

Announcer: THE CHRISTIAN SHOPPING NETWORK.

THE ONLY NETWORK WHERE YOU SOW THE KINGDOM OF GOD,

WHILE YOU PURCHASE YOUR FAVORITE PRODUCTS AT LOWER THAN RETAIL PRICE...

RuPaul: BUT IT ALL STARTED OUT WITH PUPPETS,

JIM AND TAMMY'S PUPPETS.

OH, YEAH, WE PRACTICALLY STARTED THE ELECTRIC CHURCH.

WE HAD BOUGHT SILKY BUBBLE BATH, OF ALL THINGS,

AND WE SAW THESE LITTLE HEADS ON THE BUBBLE BATH,

AND I--I STARTED TALKING FOR THEM.

YOU KNOW, MAKING LITTLE VOICES.

[IN A SILLY VOICE] "HELLO, THERE."

THOSE KINDS OF LITTLE VOICES.

AND JIM SAID, "TAMMY, WE COULD MAKE PUPPETS OUT OF THESE THINGS,

AND WE COULD USE THEM IN CHURCH FOR THE KIDS."

WE TOOK THE SILKY BUBBLE BATH, IT WAS PORKY PIG,

WE MELTED THE EARS DOWN AND MADE A LITTLE GIRL PIGGY.

SHE HAD TO HAVE A FRIEND,

SO WE MADE AN ALLIGATOR THAT TALKED LIKE THIS,

[LOW-PITCHED VOICE] "HELLO. I'M ALLIE THE ALLIGATOR.

[HIGH-PITCHED VOICE] "AND I'M SUSIE MUPPET."

I WORKED THEM WITH MY HANDS, LIKE THIS.

THIS WAS THEIR LITTLE HANDS, AND THIS WAS THEIR HEAD.

♪ JESUS TAKES A FROWN ♪

♪ AND HE TURNS IT UPSIDE DOWN ♪

♪ AND OOPS! ♪

♪ HERE COMES A SMILE... ♪

RuPaul: SUSIE MUPPET AND ALLIE THE ALLIGATOR

ATTRACTED THE ATTENTION OF TV MINISTER PAT ROBERTSON.

HE RAN A SMALL LOCAL STATION

AND DREAMT OF BUILDING A CHRISTIAN BROADCASTING NETWORK.

Jim Bakker: WE GOT A CALL FROM PAT ROBERTSON.

HE WANTED TO MEET WITH US. AND HE SAID,

"WOULD YOU CONSIDER JOINING THE NETWORK?"

WELL, THE NETWORK WAS ONE STATION,

A ONE-KILOWATT TELEVISION STATION.

IT HARDLY WENT DOWN THE BLOCK AT TIMES.

Announcer: IT'S TIME FOR THE NATIONS BIGGEST YARD PARTY,

THE JIM & TAMMY SHOW.

HI, EVERYBODY!

All: HI, JIM AND TAMMY!

Jim Bakker: WE DID NOT HAVE A SCRIPT,

SO EVERYTHING WAS REALLY AD-LIBBED.

I THINK JIM, ACTUALLY, WAS A LITTLE NERVOUS AROUND THE PUPPETS,

BECAUSE HE NEVER REALLY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO SAY.

JIM, YOU JUST ATE MY SHRIMP UP.

[GASPS] OH, I WAS JUST STANDING HERE--

SHUT UP!

Jim: SUSIE WAS THE BAD TAMMY FAYE,

AND ALLIE WAS ALWAYS SOMEHOW--

SHE HAD A SPLIT PERSONALITY,

'CAUSE ALLIE WAS ALWAYS NICE TO ME,

BUT SUSIE MUPPET WAS ALWAYS ARGUING WITH ME.

AND I MEAN, IF THOSE PEOPLE AT HOME,

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY KNEW...

WE WERE HAVING LEGITIMATE FIGHTS,

ONLY WE WERE DOING IT THROUGH THESE PUPPETS.

BUT FOR SOME REASON,

THE SHOW BECAME THE NUMBER ONE PROGRAM ON C.B.N.

♪ I'M GOING TO LOVE MY ENEMIES ♪

♪ DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO ARE BAD TO ME ♪

♪ GOING TO LOVE... ♪

I MEAN, WHAT DID JIM HENSON HAVE

BUT JIM AND TAMMY GONE BERSERK.

♪ SO GOOD AND FREE ♪

♪ SO GOOD AND FREE ♪

RuPaul: JIM AND TAMMY HAD AGREED TO WORK FOR PAT ROBERTSON

ON CONDITION THAT THEY COULD ALSO START A LATE-NIGHT TALK SHOW.

HE SAID, "I'LL MAKE A DEAL WITH YOU.

"IF YOU GET THE KID SHOW UP AND RUNNING,

THEN YOU CAN DO THIS LATE-NIGHT SHOW."

AND SO PAT HONORED HIS WORD ON THAT,

AND JIM STARTED WHAT WAS CALLED THE 700 CLUB,

THE FIRST CHRISTIAN TALK SHOW IN HISTORY.

Announcer: SO HERE'S YOUR HOST ON...

HELLO, AND WELCOME TO THE 700 CLUB TODAY.

I'M SO VERY, VERY HAPPY THAT YOU COULD JOIN US

FOR THIS PROGRAM OF PRAYER AND PRAISE.

RuPaul: THE INSTANT SUCCESS OF THE 700 CLUB AND THE JIM AND TAMMY SHOW,

HELPED TURN THE CHRISTIAN BROADCAST NETWORK

FROM A LOCAL STATION INTO A FULL-FLEDGED NETWORK.

BUT THINGS BEGAN TO SOUR.

Tammy: PAT BEGAN TO WANT TO TAKE OVER SOME OF THE 700 CLUB,

WHICH WAS FINE, BECAUSE IT WAS HIS STATION AND WE HONORED HIM FOR THAT.

AND SO, WE JUST SAID, "PAT,

"YOU'RE ABLE TO DO IT BY YOURSELF NOW. YOU DON'T NEED US."

AND SO WE DECIDED TO MOVE ON AND DO OUR OWN THING.

THE 700 CLUB TODAY IS PROBABLY

THE MOST POWERFUL OF THE RELIGIOUS BROADCASTS.

Announcer: THIS IS...

Reverend White: AND JIM WAS THE FIRST HOST ON THE 700 CLUB,

BEFORE PAT ROBERTSON WAS.

RuPaul: TAMMY WROTE TO PAT ROBERTSON

ASKING HIM TO BE INTERVIEWED FOR THIS DOCUMENTARY.

HE DECLINED.

JIM AND TAMMY THEN MOVED WEST TO CALIFORNIA,

AND IN THE KITCHEN OF THEIR RENTED HOME

WITH THEIR FRIENDS JAN AND PAUL CROUCH,

THEY LAUNCHED A NEW VENTURE:

THE TRINITY BROADCAST NETWORK.

Tammy: JIM WAS THE HOST, AND I WAS THE CO-HOST,

AND JAN AND PAUL WERE IN THE BACKGROUND.

RuPaul: BUT NOT FOR LONG.

JIM AND TAMMY WERE FORCED OUT

IN A BOARD-ROOM COUP BY JAN AND PAUL CROUCH.

Announcer: THIS IS THE TRINITY BROADCASTING NETWORK,

CELEBRATING OUR 25th ANNIVERSARY.

RuPaul: TODAY, THE CROUCHS STILL PRESIDE

OVER THE MINISTRY JIM AND TAMMY STARTED WITH THEM,

WHICH HAS SINCE BECOME ONE OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST TV MINISTRIES.

JIM AND TAMMY STARTED ALMOST EVERYTHING

THAT IS NOW POWERFUL IN RELIGIOUS TELECASTING.

BUT AS SOON AS THEY GOT IT BUILT, LIKE AT TBN,

AS SOON AS THEY GOT PEOPLE WATCHING,

AS SOON AS THEY GOT THE AUDIENCE CAPTIVATED,

AS SOON AS THEY BEGAN TO GET POWER,

THEY WERE, KIND OF, LET GO.

RuPaul: TAMMY WROTE TO THE CROUCHS

ASKING THEM TO BE INTERVIEWED FOR THIS DOCUMENTARY.

THEY DECLINED.

Choir: ♪ GLORIA ♪

RuPaul: IN 1974,

JIM AND TAMMY MOVED TO CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA.

Announcer: STAND BY. 5 SECONDS TO PTL.

RuPaul: THERE, THEY LAUNCHED A THIRD TELEVISION NETWORK

CALLED P.T.L...

PRAISE THE LORD.

[APPLAUSE] Choir: ♪ PRAISE THE LORD ♪

♪ NOW'S THE TIME TO LIFT OUR VOICES ♪

THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME

THAT THEY WERE COMPLETELY IN CHARGE

AND FREE TO CREATE THEIR OWN NETWORK IN THEIR OWN IMAGE.

♪ WELL, I FOUND A NEW JOY ♪

COME ON, JIM!

Tammy: WE BELIEVED THAT CHRISTIANITY SHOULD BE FUN.

WE BELIEVED IT SHOULD BE JOYFUL.

AND I THINK WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE

TO PUT FUN AND LAUGHTER IN CHRISTIANITY.

IT'S NOT A DRAG TO BE SAVED.

IT'S NOT A BORING THING. THAT'S RELIGION.

YOU SEE, YOU'VE GOTTEN IT MIXED UP.

RELIGION IS BORING AND DULL...

MOST OF THE TIME,

BUT JESUS IS LIFE.

♪ ...GLORIOUS, WONDERFUL DAY ♪

♪ YES, IT'S A MARVELOUS, GLORIOUS, WONDERFUL DAY ♪

♪ TO SERVE THE LORD ♪

♪ HALLELUJAH ♪

PRAISE THE LORD.

HALLELUJAH. WHOO!

RuPaul: JIM AND TAMMY'S GOSPEL OF FUN WAS FOR ONE AND ALL.

Tammy: WE WERE INTER-DENOMINATIONAL,

FOR EVERYONE OF EVERY DENOMINATION.

THE LUTHERANS, THE BAPTISTS, CATHOLICS,

ALL DENOMINATIONS WERE A PART OF PTL.

AND REMEMBER, GOD LOVES YOU.

HE REALLY DOES.

GOD LOVES YOU.

HE LOVES YOU.

GOD LOVES YOU! HE REALLY DOES!

GOD LOVES YOU.

HE REALLY DOES. BYE-BYE FOR TODAY.

RuPaul: PTL EMBRACED THOSE

THAT OTHER CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISTS

AND TELEVANGELISTS REJECTED.

STEVE IS A PATIENT OF AIDS,

AND HE SO GENEROUSLY ALLOWED US TO TALK TO HIM TODAY.

WAS IT JUST A WORD TO YOU?

IS IT SOMETHING THAT JUST HAPPENS

TO OTHER PEOPLE AND NOT TO STEVE?

I KNEW THAT IT WAS A GROWING PROBLEM IN THE GAY COMMUNITY,

BUT I, AS MANY OTHER PEOPLE DID BACK IN 1981 AND '82,

DENIED THAT IT COULD TOUCH ME.

I MEAN, WE DIDN'T SEE HOW--

I MEAN, WHY WOULD IT HURT ME?

I WAS A GOOD CHRISTIAN PASTOR.

DO YOU KNOW HOW EARLY THAT WAS

FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHRISTIAN WORLD

TO BE REACHING OUT AND TO BE EMBRACING A GAY PERSON,

LET ALONE A PERSON WITH AIDS?

TAMMY BAKKER DID IT

WHEN NO ONE ELSE WOULD DO IT.

HOW SAD THAT WE AS CHRISTIANS,

WHO ARE TO BE THE SALT OF THE EARTH,

AND WE ARE--WE, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO LOVE EVERYONE,

ARE AFRAID SO BADLY OF AN AIDS PATIENT

THAT WE WILL NOT GO UP AND PUT OUR ARM AROUND THEM

AND TELL THEM THAT WE CARE?

RuPaul: WHETHER IT WAS AIDS, DRUG ABUSE, OR MARRIAGE COUNSELING,

PTL, AND IN PARTICULAR TAMMY,

RUSHED IN WHERE OTHER CHRISTIAN BROADCASTERS FEARED TO TREAD.

THE PENILE IMPLANT OF THE INFLATABLE TYPE,

AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT--

IT'S THE NEWEST ONE, RIGHT? THIS IS THE NEWEST ONE OUT THERE.

WHEN HE WANTS TO BECOME ERECT, HE REACHES DOWN,

HE SQUEEZES THAT SEVERAL TIMES,

AND THE MAN BECOMES FIRM.

I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC.

NOW GO AHEAD, AUDIENCE, GO AHEAD.

I'VE BEEN IN HOLLYWOOD, AND IN NEW YORK,

AND I'D SEEN THE NETWORKS PRODUCE,

BUT THERE WERE NO PRODUCERS LIKE TAMMY.

♪ OH, WELL, NOW ♪

♪ WHO'S THAT BOUNCING AROUND LIKE A PING-PONG BALL? ♪

♪ WHO'S THAT, BIGGER THAN LIFE ♪

♪ EVEN THOUGH SHE'S SMALL... ♪

Reverend White: THE FIRST DAY I SAW HER,

I WATCHED HER DO 3 DIFFERENT SHOWS,

HOUR-LONG SHOWS IN A ROW,

WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER,

WITHOUT NOTES,

JUST KEEPING IT GOING.

♪ IT'S TAMMY ♪

♪ A DOUBLE-WHAMMY ♪

♪ OF TURNED-ON CHRISTIAN LOVE ♪

RuPaul: WHEN NOT IN FRONT OF A CAMERA,

TAMMY WAS BEHIND A MICROPHONE

RECORDING OVER 40 ALBUMS.

Announcer: TAMMY FAYE...

WARM...

GENTLE...

RADIANT...

BLESSED.

A GLOWING EXAMPLE.

FOR YOUR COPY OF HER MOST RECENT ALBUM,

SEND $25 TODAY TO JIM BAKKER...

RuPaul: AND IN BETWEEN RECORDING ALBUMS,

SHE RAISED A FAMILY... ALSO ON TELEVISION.

I WANT YOU TO MEET MY BOY--

JAMIE CHARLES BAKKER.

[APPLAUSE] Tammy: WE IDENTIFIED WITH THE AMERICAN FAMILY,

AND THEY IDENTIFIED WITH US.

I PRACTICALLY HAD BOTH MY CHILDREN ON TV.

BEFORE I WAS BORN, I WAS ON TELEVISION.

IN MY MOTHER'S STOMACH,

I WAS ON TELEVISION.

SO MY WHOLE LIFE HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF PEOPLE.

[APPLAUSE]

Jamie: SO MANY PEOPLE NOW, EVEN TO THIS DAY,

COME UP, AND THEY'RE LIKE,

"I REMEMBER YOU FROM WHEN YOU WERE A LITTLE KID.

I GREW UP WITH YOU. I FEEL LIKE I'M A PART OF YOU."

AND IT'S BECAUSE THEY GREW UP IN OUR HOUSE,

I MEAN, IN OUR LIVES.

MY LANDS!

Jamie Bakker: IT WAS VERY NORMAL TO HAVE CAMERAS

AROUND THE HOUSE DURING CHRISTMAS.

THIS WAS LIFE TO ME.

Tammy: WE WERE PART OF THEIR FAMILIES.

WE LOVED THEM, AND THEY LOVED US AS FAMILY PEOPLE.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHY IT WAS SO POWERFUL.

RuPaul: THE PRAISE THE LORD NETWORK TOOK OFF.

FROM THIS MOMENT ON,

THE PTL TELEVISION NETWORK PLANS TO BROADCAST...

24 HOURS A DAY...

UNTIL THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST.

♪ JESUS KEEPS ON TAKING ME HIGHER AND HIGHER ♪

♪ HIGHER AND HIGHER ♪

♪ HIGHER AND HIGHER ♪

♪ JESUS KEEPS... ♪

WE KEPT ADDING STATION AFTER STATION AFTER STATION,

AND IT WAS AN AWESOME THING THAT HAPPENED.

Jim: ALL OVER THE WORLD, WE WERE DOING TELEVISION.

WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST 4 SATELLITE NETWORKS IN THE WORLD.

Announcer: YOU'RE WATCHING...

THAT'S WHY LATER ON,

THE PLUM THAT SO MANY PEOPLE WANTED

WAS THAT SATELLITE.

RuPaul: BUT JIM WASN'T SATISFIED WITH JUST A TELEVISION NETWORK.

Tammy: JIM FELT THAT IF THE PEOPLE WERE THERE ON THE GROUNDS

AND COULD COME AND STAY WHERE PTL WAS AND SEE,

AND GET IN ON THE VISION...

THAT'S WHAT HE WANTED.

HE WANTED ALL THE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY BE THERE.

RuPaul: TO REALIZE THIS VISION,

JIM BAKKER CONTACTED HIS CHURCH BUILDER ROE MESSNER.

Roe: I GOT ON A PLANE AND WENT DOWN TO CHARLOTTE,

MET WITH JIM,

AND HE LAID OUT THIS GRANDIOSE PLAN

THAT HE HAD FOR 2,500 ACRES

AND WANTED TO KNOW IF I WOULD, UH,

DESIGN HIS BUILDINGS AND BE HIS CONTRACTOR.

RuPaul: WHAT JIM ENVISIONED

WAS NOTHING LESS THAN A CHRISTIAN DISNEYLAND,

A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR RESORT

THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY INCLUDE A 500-ROOM HOTEL,

A STATE-OF-THE-ART BROADCAST FACILITY,

AND A WATER PARK.

♪ PRAISE THE LORD ♪

♪ EVERYBODY LIFT OUR VOICES... ♪

WELL, PART OF THE EXCITEMENT OF HERITAGE U.S.A., I BELIEVE,

WAS PEOPLE WATCHING THE BUILDINGS GOING UP.

AND I DON'T THINK MAYBE I UNDERSTOOD THAT AS WELL AS I WISH I WOULD HAVE.

I GOT TO WHERE I COULDN'T STAND TO HEAR THE NAME ROE MESSNER.

BECAUSE I--FOR ONE THING,

I KNEW THAT BUILDINGS MEANT RAISING LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY.

RuPaul: JIM BAKKER REACHED OUT TO HIS FOLLOWERS

TO PAY FOR HIS DREAM CITY

WITH AN ENDLESS ROUND OF TELETHONS.

♪ PRAISE THE LORD ♪

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH...

RuPaul: BUT ENOUGH WAS NEVER ENOUGH.

AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE GOTTEN BUSY SIGNALS,

SO START DIALING RIGHT NOW, AND YOU CAN GET THROUGH.

RENEW YOUR PLEDGE, MAKE YOUR PLEDGE.

WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE BUSY SIGNALS.

NOW PARTNERS ARE SAYING, "JIM,

WE WANT JIM AND TAMMY IN OUR HOMES."

Tammy: I BEGAN TO FEEL LIKE PTL HAD GROWN SO FAR PAST ME,

AND I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WAS EVEN SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH

TO BE IN SUCH A HIGH POSITION.

WE BEGAN TO LEAD SEPARATE LIVES.

JIM WAS SO BUSY RAISING MONEY TO BUILD BUILDINGS,

AND HE FORGOT HIS FAMILY.

AND, UM...

WE WERE LEFT IN THE DUST SOMEWHERE.

♪ THIS IS YOUR HERITAGE ♪

♪ HERITAGE U.S.A. ♪

RuPaul: BY THE MID-EIGHTIES,

HERITAGE PARK WAS ON ITS WAY

TO BECOMING THE THIRD MOST POPULAR RESORT DESTINATION IN THE U.S.,

BUT THE PRICE OF PTL's SUCCESS KEPT CLIMBING.

TODAY, WE ARE AROUND $2 MILLION IN PAST-DUE BILLS

THAT MUST BE PAID IF WE'RE GOING TO SAVE THE ENTIRE NETWORK.

SOON, I FIND MYSELF WITH A BUDGET

OF A MILLION DOLLARS EVERY 2 DAYS.

AND THE TAIL BEGAN TO WAG THE DOG.

YOU KNOW, REALLY, IF EVERYONE WOULD DOUBLE THEIR PLEDGE ONE MONTH...

IF EVERY PERSON THAT WATCHED THIS TELECAST COULD GIVE $10 A MONTH...

IF YOU HAVEN'T PLEDGED THAT $15 A MONTH...

CALL RIGHT NOW. I WANT TO SEND YOU...

THIS BEAUTIFUL LITTLE RICE-PADDY BABY

FOR YOUR GIFT OF $100.

RuPaul: PTL's CRISIS RIDDEN FINANCES

ATTRACTED THE ATTENTION OF A YOUNG REPORTER AT THE LOCAL PAPER,

THE CHARLOTTE OBSERVER.

I HAD BEEN REPORTING ON PTL FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

AND THERE WAS A HISTORY OF MISMANAGEMENT,

AND OF QUESTIONABLE SPENDING OF MONEY.

TAMMY AND I ARE UNDERGOING THE MOST VICIOUS ATTACKS

IN THE HISTORY OF THIS MINISTRY.

BY NOW, PERHAPS, YOU THINK

THAT WE SHOULD BE USED TO THESE ATTACKS.

BUT IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME, TAMMY.

YES, JIM. IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS.

USA TODAY CARRIED THIS BLURB:

"PTL PRESIDENT JIM BAKKER

USED DONATIONS TO HIS TELEVISION MINISTRY

TO BUY PERSONAL ITEMS, LIKE A MINK COAT,

A SPORTS CAR, AND A HOUSE BOAT,

THE CHARLOTTE OBSERVER REPORTED SUNDAY."

I HAVE ALL THE CANCELLED CHECKS.

I'LL HAVE TO PICK 'EM ALL BACK UP AGAIN.

I THINK THE FACT IS BAKKER LATCHED ONTO AN IDEA

THAT WAS GONNA HELP PROPEL HIS MINISTRY FORWARD,

AND IT THEN BECAME A VERY CONVENIENT WAY

TO DO A LOT OF OTHER THINGS,

AND HE MADE SOME STATEMENTS

ABOUT WHAT HE WAS GONNA DO WITH THIS MONEY,

THAT HE THEN DID NOT FOLLOW.

Announcer: HERE ARE JIM AND TAMMY BAKKER!

RuPaul: DESPITE THE ATTACKS, THE BAKKERS CONTINUED TO SHINE

AS CHRISTIAN TELEVISION'S BRIGHTEST STARS.

BY SPECIAL REQUEST,

HERE'S TAMMY FAYE TO SING WE'RE BLESSED!

♪ WE'RE BLESSED, WE'RE BLESSED, WE'RE BLESSED ♪

♪ WE ARE BLESSED ♪

♪ OH, WE GIVE SHELTER, CLOTHING, AND STRENGTH ♪

♪ WE ARE BLESSED ♪

♪ WE'RE BLESSED, WE'RE BLESSED, WE'RE BLESSED ♪

OFF SCREEN, THEIR MARRIAGE WAS FALLING APART.

JIM HAD A SECRET.

JIM BAKKER, MEET JESSICA HAHN.

Charles: IN 1980, ONE OF HIS RELIGIOUS ASSOCIATES

HAD ARRANGED AN ENCOUNTER IN A HOTEL ROOM

WITH A WOMAN NAMED JESSICA HAHN,

A YOUNG WOMAN, I THINK, IN HER EARLY 20s.

AND THAT LED TO A SEXUAL ENCOUNTER OF SOME KIND OR ANOTHER.

THERE'S A DISPUTE OVER WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED IN THAT ROOM.

THAT DAY ALL MY DREAMS WERE SHATTERED

AND MY LIFE WOULD NEVER BE THE SAME.

Charles: IN EARLY 1985...

PTL AGREED TO SETTLE

A THREATENED LAWSUIT BY JESSICA HAHN

BY PAYING HER A SUM OF MONEY.

RuPaul: ONCE AGAIN, THE PTL NETWORK TURNED TO ROE MESSNER,

APPARENTLY WITHOUT JIM'S KNOWLEDGE.

Roe: THEY CAME TO ME AND SAID WE GOT A PROBLEM.

WE'VE MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH THIS LADY

THAT IF WE PAY HER $265,000,

SHE'LL GO AWAY.

AND I SAID THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO DO THAT.

I SAID YOU SHOULDN'T DO THAT.

I SAID, "I'LL LOAN YOU THE MONEY,

BUT," I SAYS, "IT'S A LOAN.

I WANT THE MONEY PAID BACK."

RuPaul: UNAWARE OF JIM'S SECRET,

TAMMY FAYE WAS STRUGGLING WITH HER OWN.

JOIN THE PTL CLUB,

AND TAMMY WANTS TO SEND YOU A COPY OF HER BOOK

HOW TO OVERCOME FEAR.

Tammy: I BECAME VERY NERVOUS,

SO I WENT TO THE DOCTOR

WITH A HYPERVENTILATION PROBLEM,

AND THEY KNEW IT WAS A CASE OF NERVOUS FRUSTRATION.

AND SO THEY GAVE ME A LITTLE PILL CALLED ADAVAN.

AND ADAVAN...

WAS A WONDERFUL DRUG FOR ME AT THE TIME.

I DIDN'T TAKE MY MEDICINE TODAY

BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE BRIGHT.

YESTERDAY, I ALMOST FELL OFF MY HIGH HEELS.

I WAS ON MEDICINE, TAKING MY MEDICINE, SO I'M NOT SAYING--

THIS WAS HER WAY OF DEALING WITH THE STRESS

THAT SHE WAS UNDER IN THE RELATIONSHIP.

AND SHE WOULD LITERALLY LOSE TRACK

OF THE NUMBER OF ADAVAN THAT SHE WOULD TAKE.

TAMMY, I THINK YOU OUGHT TO SING A SONG FOR US.

I'M BACK HERE LOOKING AT THE BOAT, JIM.

ISN'T THIS A MAGNIFICENT THING?

YES.

RIGHT HERE ON OUR BEACH.

IT LOOKS BRAND NEW. I BET--

I'M GONNA TAKE MY SHOES OFF AND WADE IN THE WATER.

I DON'T THINK THAT BOAT'S EVER SEEN WATER.

[GIGGLING]

I FINALLY GOT TO THE POINT

WHERE I HAD TO HAVE ADAVAN WITH ME AT ALL TIMES.

RuPaul: THEN TAMMY OVERDOSED.

Tammy: WE HAD JUST BROKEN GROUND

FOR ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WE WERE GETTING READY TO BUILD.

IT WAS GOING TO BE A FOOTBALL FIELD LONG.

AND WE HAD BROKEN GROUND.

THE DAY WAS VERY, VERY COLD,

AND NONE OF US HAD WORN PROPER CLOTHING.

AND I GOT PNEUMONIA AS A RESULT OF THAT.

THEY SAID THAT I HAD ENOUGH ADAVAN IN ME

THAT WOULD'VE KILLED A HUGE TRUCK DRIVER.

RuPaul: TAMMY WAS RUSHED ON A FRIEND'S PRIVATE JET

TO EISENHOWER MEDICAL CENTER IN PALM SPRINGS, CALIFORNIA.

ON THE AIRPLANE I WENT INTO HALLUCINATIONS.

IT-IT'S PLEASANT.

IT IS PLEASANT WHEN YOU'RE IN A DRUG-INDUCED STATE OF MIND.

I MEAN, YOU CAN SIT AND WATCH WONDERFUL THINGS,

AND I SAW CARTOONS.

BUT THEN THERE ARE TIMES

WHEN YOU SEE REALLY HORRIBLE THINGS, TOO.

I SAW THESE MEN WITH THESE BLACK CAPES ON.

I SAW THEM COMING AT ME IN DROVES.

RuPaul: ONCE ON THE PLANE,

TAMMY TRIED TO DISEMBARK AT 30,000 FEET.

Tammy: THEY TOOK ME FROM THE HOSPITAL

DIRECTLY TO THE BETTY FORD CENTER.

I THOUGHT I WAS BEING PUNISHED FOR SOMETHING,

AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS BEING PUNISHED FOR.

IT STILL HURTS ME...

THAT THEY DID NOT TELL ME THEY WERE GONNA DO THAT TO ME.

SHE SPENT ONE NIGHT THERE AND THEN LEFT.

ALL I NEEDED WAS TO BE EDUCATED,

BECAUSE I'M AN INTELLIGENT PERSON, AND THAT'S ALL I NEEDED.

ONCE I WAS EDUCATED AND REALIZED WHAT I WAS DOING,

I STOPPED IT AND I HAVE NEVER, EVER

HAVE HAD TO--HAVE--HAVE, UH...BEEN ADDICTED TO ANYTHING AGAIN.

JUST DIET COKE.

BUT THE PRESIDENT LIKES IT, TOO,

SO I'M IN GOOD COMPANY.

[BLEEP]

Both: HEE HEE HEE HEE.

I WENT AWAY FOR A WHILE,

AND I HAVE LEARNED THE BEST LESSON IN MY WHOLE LIFE.

I LEARNED HOW MUCH I LOVED MY HUSBAND,

HOW MUCH I CARED FOR MY HUSBAND.

AND I LEARNED A LESSON OF LONELINESS

SUCH AS I'VE NEVER FELT IN MY LIFE.

WHEN I HAD TO GO OUT ALL OF A SUDDEN

AND GO BY MYSELF AND DO MY WASHING

TO A PLACE WHERE I DIDN'T EVEN--

WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH,

WHEN I HAD TO CARRY OUT MY OWN GARBAGE,

WHEN I HAD TO DO ALL THE THINGS

THAT I DID WITH SOMEONE I LOVED BEFORE,

WHEN I HAD TO DO IT ALL BY MYSELF,

ALL OF A SUDDEN, I REALIZED

THAT THERE WAS A LOT MORE TO MARRIAGE THAN JUST THE SPARKLES.

RuPaul: JIM AND TAMMY DECIDED TO STAY IN THEIR HOME IN PALM SPRINGS

AND PUT THEIR MARRIAGE BACK TOGETHER,

BUT THINGS TURNED OUT DIFFERENTLY.

THE THING I REMEMBER MOST ABOUT THIS HOUSE,

I BELIEVE, IS THE WIND.

WE USED TO GO UP ON TOP OF THE ROOF OF THE GARAGE

AND LISTEN TO THE WIND BLOWING THROUGH THE PALM TREES AT NIGHT.

AND THE MOON WOULD BE OUT. IT WOULD BE SO BEAUTIFUL HERE IN THE DESERT.

THIS IS THE HOUSE WHERE OUR WHOLE LIVES

CAME TUMBLING DOWN ON US.

I WAS STILL VERY WEAK AND VERY SICK

WHEN I FINISHED THE BETTY FORD PROGRAM.

AND JIM WAS REALLY BURNED OUT,

HAVING TO RAISE $1 MILLION A WEEK

TO KEEP PTL ON THE AIR, AND TO KEEP ALL THE BILLS PAID.

Jim: IT WAS BEGINNING TO CRUSH ME.

AT THE END OF THE DAY,

I WOULD LITERALLY HAVE TO THINK TO WALK.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'D HAVE TO--

I WAS SO EXHAUSTED, I'D HAVE TO, YOU KNOW--

USUALLY YOUR BODY WILL JUST WALK BY ITSELF,

BUT I'M HAVING TO PICK UP MY FEET ON PURPOSE TO WALK.

AND SO JERRY FALWELL KNEW JUST WHEN TO HIT.

RuPaul: ALTHOUGH JIM AND TAMMY WERE THE MOST POPULAR EVANGELISTS OF THEIR TIME,

SOUTHERN BAPTIST MINISTER JERRY FALWELL WAS THE MOST POWERFUL.

HE WAS THE FOUNDER OF THE MORAL MAJORITY

AND PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN REAGAN'S ELECTION.

HE PREACHED A RETURN TO FAMILY VALUES

AND SINGLED OUT THE PRO-ABORTION AND GAY MOVEMENTS FOR ATTACK.

FALWELL'S EMPIRE INCLUDED A SUCCESSFUL TELEVISION MINISTRY

AND A UNIVERSITY,

BUT IT DID NOT INCLUDE A SATELLITE.

HE CALLS JIM UP AND HE SAYS,

"JIM, I HAVE FOUND SOMETHING OUT THAT I AM GOING TO--

"THAT IS GOING TO BE LEAKED TO THE NEWSPAPERS

"IF YOU DON'T ALLOW ME TO HELP YOU."

HE SAYS, "LET ME FLY OUT TO CALIFORNIA,

AND I WANT TO HELP YOU AND TAMMY THROUGH THIS."

AND THEN HE BROUGHT UP THE NAME JESSICA HAHN.

THIS IS WHERE I HEARD JIM TELL ME

THAT HE HAD HAD A ONE-NIGHT STAND

WITH A YOUNG LADY BY THE NAME OF JESSICA HAHN.

EVEN THOUGH IT HAD HAPPENED 9 YEARS BEFORE,

TO ME, IT WAS LIKE IT HAD HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

I LAID ON THE FLOOR AND I CRIED FOR 3 DAYS.

I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO MY LIFE.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE IT.

RuPaul: TAMMY WROTE TO JESSICA HAHN,

ASKING TO MEET WITH HER. SHE DECLINED.

SHE DID, HOWEVER, TELL HER SIDE OF THE STORY

IN A 1993 PLAYBOY VIDEO.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE PEOPLE TO KNOW

THERE ARE SIDES OF MY PERSONALITY THAT NO ONE HAS SEEN.

I WOULD JUST LIKE PEOPLE TO KNOW THE REAL ME.

Tammy: JERRY FALWELL FLEW HIS PRIVATE JET OUT.

HE SAID--HE PUT HIS ARMS AROUND ME-- "I WANT TO HELP YOU."

AND WITH THAT, HE SAID, "IF YOU WILL GIVE PTL TO ME FOR 6 WEEKS,"

HE SAID, "WHILE THIS STORY BREAKS, WHICH IS BOUND TO BREAK,"

HE SAID, "WE WILL BE THE CATALYST,

"AND IN 6 WEEKS, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR MINISTRY BACK,

AND IT WILL BE LIKE NOTHING EVER HAPPENED."

AN ATTACK ON ONE DENOMINATION IS AN ATTACK ON ALL.

WE MUST SHARE THE BREAD OF ADVERSITY

AND THE WATER OF AFFLICTION.

JIM SWALLOWED IT HOOK, LINE, AND SINKER.

BUT I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG SOMEWHERE,

AND I BEGGED HIM-- I BEGGED HIM

NOT TO GIVE UP HIS PLACE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

I TOLD HIM, "GO BACK AND TALK TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

"GO BACK AND TALK TO YOUR PEOPLE

BEFORE YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS."

AND JIM SAID, "NO.

"DADDY FALWELL'S HERE.

HE'LL TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING."

BY EARLY 1987, I HAD COLLECTED THE INFORMATION

I NEEDED TO PUBLISH A STORY ABOUT JESSICA HAHN AND ABOUT THAT PAYOFF.

ON MARCH 19, 1987,

IN AN INTERVIEW WITH US ABOUT THE STORY,

INSTEAD OF AN INTERVIEW, WE HEARD A RESIGNATION SPEECH OVER THE TELEPHONE.

JIM WAS IN CALIFORNIA. HE READ THIS RESIGNATION.

HE GOT OFF THE PHONE AND IMMEDIATELY

A MAN NAMED JERRY FALWELL COMES ON,

WHICH IS A SHOCK TO ALL OF US AT THE NEWSPAPER.

AND FALWELL HAS BEEN GIVEN BY JIM THE MANTLE OF RUNNING PTL.

HOW CAN WE SAY THANK YOU FOR YOU GENTLEMEN

WHO HAVE STOOD BY JIM AND TAMMY'S SIDE, AND ALL OF OUR SIDE?

IF OUR ARMS WERE BIG ENOUGH,

WE'D JUST WRAP THEM ALL AROUND ALL OF YOU.

WE REALLY WOULD.

Charles: THAT STORY EXPLODED.

IT WAS THE STORY FOR NEWSPAPERS

AND TELEVISION AROUND THE COUNTRY.

ARE YOU PLANNING ON COMING BACK?

I REMEMBER GOING TO PTL

AND GOING INTO THIS NEWS CONFERENCE

THAT FALWELL HELD AT THE HOTEL,

AND I HAVE TO SAY, FEELING SOME BLUSH OF PRIDE

AT WHAT MY GOOD REPORTING HAD CREATED HERE.

Tammy: O.J. SIMPSON WAS NOTHING

COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAD AROUND US.

IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE.

WE JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO,

AND THANK ALL YOU CAMERAMEN

AND ALL YOU PRESS PEOPLE.

I HATE IT YOU HAD TO STAND OUT

IN THIS HOT SUN IN THIS DESERT.

THEY WERE 4, 5 DEEP FOR THE WHOLE BLOCK,

DOWN ALL AROUND OUR HOUSE.

THERE WAS NO PLACE FOR US TO HIDE AT ALL.

REMEMBER, I WAS 11 YEARS OLD WHEN THIS WAS HAPPENING,

BUT I COULD TELL SOMETHING WAS GOING WRONG.

SHARE WITH US. HOW'S JAMIE CHARLES AND TAMMY SUE DOING?

WE'RE CONCERNED.

I WISH YOU'D STARTED SOMEWHERE ELSE.

[CRYING]

ONE OF THE LAST THING JAMIE CHARLES SAID IS,

"WILL I GET A CHANCE TO GO HOME AND GET MY TOYS?"

Man: AW, BLESS HIM.

AND SUSIE'S DOING WELL.

I RAN AWAY FROM HOME.

WHAT WOULD ANY TEENAGER DO?

RUN AWAY. THAT'S THE ANSWER.

YOU KNOW. AND THAT'S WHAT I DID.

RuPaul: ON JUNE 11, 1987,

JIM AND TAMMY WENT ON THE AIR

TO ADDRESS THE PTL AUDIENCE FOR WHAT WOULD BE THE LAST TIME.

TAMMY AND I ARE SO VERY GLAD

THAT WE'VE BEEN GRANTED THIS OPPORTUNITY

TO TALK WITH YOU TODAY.

AND SAY HELLO.

YES. HELLO, EVERYONE.

AND WE WANT TO SAY TO YOU

THAT WE ARE SO VERY, VERY SORRY.

I BELIEVE, TAMMY,

'CAUSE THE GOD I SERVE IS STILL GOD,

I BELIEVE THE SUN WILL SHINE AGAIN.

OH, I DO, TOO, JIM.

YOU WANT TO SING IT?

I'LL DO IT. CAN YOU DO IT?

ALL RIGHT, TAMMY FAYE IS GONNA SING A SONG FOR YOU

JUST BEFORE WE LEAVE OUR HOUSE.

MAYBE YOU'RE HURTING AND YOU NEED THIS SONG TODAY, TOO,

SO, I'LL SING IT FOR BOTH OF US, OK?

♪ OH, THE SUN WILL SHINE AGAIN ♪

♪ THE SUN WILL SHINE AGAIN ♪

♪ OH, THE SUN WILL SHINE AGAIN ♪

WE CAME IN HERE FIRST

BECAUSE WE FELT JIM BAKKER WANTED US HERE.

♪ A NEW DAY WILL BREAK ♪

WE NOW FEEL A HIGHER CALLING.

WE FEEL THAT GOD WANTS US HERE,

AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING.

JERRY FALWELL CAME IN TO RESCUE THE NETWORK,

BUT, IN FACT, TOOK IT.

RESCUE, TAKE, THEY'RE OPPOSITES.

I FEEL LIKE GOD HAS FORGIVEN ME OF SO MUCH,

THAT I WILL FORGIVE EVERYONE WHO HAS HURT US.

AND SO WE JUST WANT EVERYONE

TO BEGIN TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER,

AND THAT THE CHURCH WORLD WILL LOVE ONE ANOTHER,

THAT THE PEOPLE OF GOD WILL NOT FIGHT.

OH, I BELIEVE YOUR MIDNIGHT'S ALMOST OVER.

AND THANK GOD, THE SUN IS GOING TO SHINE AGAIN.

PRAISE THE LORD.

[APPLAUSE]

Man: HALLELUJAH! PRAISE THE LORD!

Roe: JERRY FALWELL CALLED ME UP,

AND HE SAID, "ROE, I WANT YOU TO GO OUT

AND SEE JIM AND TAMMY FOR ME."

HE SAID, "I WANT YOU TO GO OUT THERE

"AND TELL THEM I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM

"300,000 SALARY THIS YEAR.

"I'M GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE,

"PAY THE PHONE BILL,

"I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM ONE SECURITY GUARD,

A MAID," HE SAID,

AND YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE THEM WRITE IT DOWN ON A PIECE OF PAPER."

ROE, THINKING THAT FALWELL WAS AN HONORABLE MAN,

CAME OUT TO OUR HOUSE AND TOLD US THIS.

AND SO HE SAID, "TAMMY, YOU NEED TO JUST GET A PIECE OF PAPER

"AND YOU NEED TO WRITE DOWN THE LIST OF BENEFITS

"THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS VOTED FOR YOU TO HAVE,

AND MR. FALWELL WANTS TO CONTINUE THOSE FOR A YEAR."

AND I GAVE JERRY,

I GAVE HIM THIS-- THIS THING

WITH TAMMY'S PINK STATIONARY.

HE GOES TO THE CAMERA RIGHT THEN.

WE WERE IN OUR HOME AND CNN WAS ON,

AND, OF COURSE, WE WERE WATCHING IT.

JIM AND TAMMY GAVE ME THIS LIST OF THINGS THEY'D LIKE TO RECEIVE.

JIM'S SALARY, FOR A LIFETIME,

AT $300,000 PER YEAR.

TAMMY'S SALARY, FOR A LIFETIME, $100,000.

SECRETARY FOR ONE YEAR... PHONE BILL..2 CARS...

HOUSE ON THE LAKE... SECURITY...

AND THE FURNITURE. THEY WANT A MAID.

I DON'T SEE ANY REPENTANCE THERE.

I SEE THE GREED.

I SEE THE SELF-CENTEREDNESS.

I SEE THE AVARICE THAT BROUGHT THEM DOWN.

AND FROM THAT DAY ON,

HE STARTED-- HE STARTED HIS ATTACK ON JIM.

THE HOMOSEXUALITY STUFF,

THE DARK HOLE WHERE ALL THE MONEY'S GONE,

AND ALL THAT BALONEY THAT HE CAME UP WITH.

I HAVE SAT ACROSS THE TABLE FROM MEN

WHO HAVE TOLD ME OF THEIR-- OF YOUR HOMOSEXUAL ADVANCES.

AND SINCE THEN, OF COURSE, I HAVE LEARNED OF THE FISCAL IRREGULARITIES.

AND JIM, I MUST TELL YOU

THAT I WOULD BE DOING A DISSERVICE TO GOD,

AS MUCH AS I LOVE YOU AND CARE FOR YOU,

AND WILL PRAY FOR YOU,

I WOULD BE DOING A DISSERVICE TO GOD

AND TO THE CHURCH AT LARGE

TO ALLOW YOU TO COME BACK HERE NOW OR EVER.

JIM, A LOOK OF PURE HORROR,

PURE TORTURE PASSED OVER HIS FACE.

AND HE SAID, "TAM, IT'S ALL OVER.

I'VE BEEN HAD."

Charles: MY SENSE OF FALWELL AND OF HIS PEOPLE

AND HOW THEY OPERATED WAS THEY HAD VERY SHARP KNIVES.

AND THE BAKKERS PROBABLY WERE A LITTLE NAIVE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAD EVER RUN INTO ANYONE WHO WAS QUITE SO CUNNING.

THEY WERE MANIPULATIVE, AND SCHEMING,

BUT HE WAS CUNNING,

AND I THINK CUNNING TRUMPED SCHEMING THERE.

RuPaul: LESS THAN 3 MONTHS AFTER FALWELL TOOK OVER,

PTL FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY.

THOUSANDS OF PTL PARTNERS, DONORS,

AND CREDITORS LOST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

Roe: THEY SOLD IT FOR 25 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR,

AND THERE JUST WASN'T ANY MONEY FOR THE CREDITORS.

I THINK MR. FALWELL

WANTED TO DESTROY PTL, IS WHAT I THINK.

I WOULD LOVE TO SIT AND LOOK JERRY FALWELL IN THE EYES

AND SAY, "JERRY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST

GET IT RIGHT WITH GOD AND SAY YOU'RE SORRY?"

HE DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE IT RIGHT WITH ME,

BECAUSE I'M NOT IN CHARGE OF WHETHER JERRY FALWELL'S GOING TO HEAVEN OR HELL.

THAT'S NOT--I'M NOT IN CHARGE OF THAT.

BUT I SAY HE HAD BETTER MAKE IT RIGHT WITH GOD.

I WOULD GIVE ANYTHING TO FACE JERRY,

BUT HE WON'T FACE ME. I KNOW HE WON'T.

RuPaul: FALWELL NEVER REPLIED TO TAMMY'S LETTER.

HE HAS, HOWEVER, GONE ON RECORD

CALLING TAMMY A LOONY WHOSE ELEVATOR NEVER WENT TO THE TOP FLOOR.

FALWELL ALSO NEVER RESPONDED TO THE PRODUCER'S REQUEST

FOR AN INTERVIEW.

ELSEWHERE, HOWEVER,

HE HAS DENIED THAT THE LIST ON TAMMY'S LETTERHEAD

WAS CREATED AT HIS SUGGESTION.

HE ALSO MAINTAINS THAT BAKKER ASKED HIM

TO TAKE OVER THE PTL MINISTRY

AND WAS NEVER PROMISED HE COULD RETURN.

RuPaul: IN 1989, JIM BAKKER WENT ON TRIAL FOR FRAUD.

Reporter: THE GOVERNMENT SAID BAKKER

DELIBERATELY SOLD MORE THAN TWICE AS MANY PARTNERSHIPS FOR LODGING

AS THERE WERE ACCOMMODATIONS,

AND POCKETED NEARLY $4 MILLION

TO KEEP HIM IN EXPENSIVE HOMES AND CARS.

James Albert: THIS WAS A FEDERAL TRIAL.

THERE WERE NO CAMERAS ALLOWED IN THE COURTROOM.

WE HAD TO RELY ON THOSE PRINT JOURNALISTS,

AND PARTICULARLY THE CHARLOTTE OBSERVER REPORTERS.

THEN, OF COURSE, REMEMBER, THE CHARLOTTE OBSERVER

WON THE PULITZER PRIZE FOR PUBLIC SERVICE FOR TOPPLING JIM BAKKER

AND EXPOSING HIM ONE FULL YEAR

BEFORE THIS JURY EVER GOT A CHANCE TO CONSIDER

ANY OF THIS EVIDENCE.

RuPaul: JAMES ALBERT SPENT 5 YEARS STUDYING THE PTL TRIAL,

AND WROTE A BOOK THAT RAISED QUESTIONS

ABOUT HOW THE TRIAL MIGHT HAVE BEEN

A MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE.

WHEN THE DEFENSE PLAYED A PTL VIDEO

FOR THE JURY TO SEE,

JUDGE POTTER ACTUALLY STUCK HIS INDEX FINGERS IN HIS EARS

AND TURNED AWAY.

HE HAS SAID IN THE COURT MANY TIMES,

"I MAY NOT BE RULING THIS CORRECTLY,

BUT YOU CAN TAKE IT UP ON YOUR APPEAL."

AND I FEEL THAT ANY JUDGE WHO THINKS

THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO APPEAL

HAS ALREADY MADE UP HIS MIND THAT WE'RE GUILTY.

THE JUDGE REFUSED TO ALLOW THE JURORS

TO BOARD A BUS AND TRAVEL 15 MINUTES TO HERITAGE U.S.A.,

TO SEE WHAT JIM BAKKER HAD BUILT

WITH ALL THE MONEY THAT HE RAISED.

IT WAS A TRIAL NOT ABOUT FRAUD

OR CRIMINAL CONDUCT.

IT WAS A TRIAL ABOUT LIFESTYLE AND WEALTH.

Reporter: PTL's NEW MANAGEMENT

ACT CONTINUALLY AMAZED AT THE OPULENCE

UNDER WHICH JIM AND TAMMY BAKKER LIVED.

IN FACT, A TRIP THROUGH THE PRESIDENTIAL SUITE

AT THE HERITAGE GRAND HOTEL

SHOWS THE BAKKERS LIVED, ONE COULD EASILY DEDUCE, QUITE LUXURIOUSLY.

THEY LIVED WELL,

BUT THEY LIVED NO BETTER THAN PAT ROBERTSON,

NO BETTER THAN JERRY FALWELL,

NO BETTER THAN JIM DOBSON,

'CAUSE I'VE BEEN IN THEIR HOMES, TOO.

BUT LOOK, I THINK THE FACT IS

THE BAKKERS HAD BEEN,

FROM PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY'S POINT OF VIEW,

PRETTY GREEDY.

IT'S LUDICROUS TO ARGUE

THAT JIM BAKKER RAISED $158 MILLION

FROM HIS TELEVISION VIEWERS

TO KEEP $3 MILLION FOR HIMSELF.

RuPaul: AFTER A 6-WEEK TRIAL,

JIM BAKKER WAS SENTENCED TO 45 YEARS IN FEDERAL PRISON.

I CAN'T IMAGINE HIM BEING TAKEN INTO CUSTODY,

BUT THAT'S VERY MUCH IN THE JUDGE'S DISCRETION,

AND THE JUDGE HAS PROVEN HIMSELF HARD TO PREDICT.

WITH TODAY'S VERDICT, REALITY HAS FINALLY DAWNED FOR JIM BAKKER.

TODAY WAS CERTAINLY AN EXAMPLE OF GOD'S AMAZING GRACE.

THEY DID HIM LIKE THEY DONE JESUS,

WITH LEADING HIM LIKE HE'S A BIG DRUG PUSHER,

A BIG ROBBER OR SOMETHING.

THEY HAD HANDCUFFS ON HIM,

LEADING HIM, AND HE IS THE MAN OF GOD.

I HAVE A SONG FOR YOU.

♪ ON CHRIST, THE SOLID ROCK, I STAND ♪

♪ ALL OTHER GROUND IS SINKING SAND ♪

♪ ALL OTHER GROUND IS SINKING SAND ♪

IT'S NOT OVER TILL IT'S OVER.

RuPaul: THIS IS THE LAST TIME

TAMMY FAYE WOULD SING IN PUBLIC FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

MEANWHILE CHARLES SHEPARD WROTE A BOOK CALLED FORGIVEN,

A SEARING ACCOUNT OF THE SCANDAL.

[TYPING]

SHEPARD WAS ASKED IF HE WOULD MET WITH TAMMY FAYE.

HE AGREED.

SO 12 YEARS AFTER THE VERDICT,

TAMMY CONFRONTED CHARLES FOR THE FIRST TIME.

I WAS THEIR, CHARLIE.

I KNOW HOW IT HAPPENED.

I KNOW JIM BAKKER IS NOT A CROOK.

I KNOW THAT AFTER 25 YEARS IN FRONT OF THE TELEVISION CAMERAS,

WE DID NOT STEAL MONEY AND YOU AND I--

I WANT TO HEAR YOU SAY, "YOU STOLE MONEY."

I DON'T FEEL I WROTE THINGS THAT WERE UNTRUE. HMM.

CERTAINLY NOT KNOWING THEY WERE,

AND EVEN NOW, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING I WROTE THAT WAS UNTRUE. MM-HMM.

DID YOU WRITE THAT MILLIONS WERE MISSING?

I DON'T EVER REMEMBER WRITING THAT.

YOU SAID--WHAT YOU SAID WAS A BIG, DEEP HOLE...

MILLIONS MISSING.

W-WHY?

ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS JUST WHY?

WHICH QUESTION SHOULD I ANSWER FIRST?

ON ALL OF THEM!

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND, WHAT DID WE DO?

FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T-- I'M NOT HERE TO SAY-- A JUDGE AND JURY.

BECAUSE, LISTEN.

I COULD TURN AROUND AND--AND--AND--AND PUT PTL DOWN

IF I WANT TO, JUST LIKE THE NEWS DID,

BUT I WAS THERE AND I LIVED IT

AND ONE THING I KNOW ABOUT JIM BAKKER--

HE WAS AN HONEST MAN.

AND ONE THING I KNOW ABOUT THE PTL ORGANIZATION,

IT WAS AN HONEST, TRUTHFUL ORGANIZATION.

RuPaul: TAMMY WANTED AN APOLOGY.

CHARLES WANTED AN AUTOGRAPH.

OH, YEAH. I--I--I...

I BROUGHT SOME COPIES OF MY BOOK.

HEY, GREAT.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU, BUT I WANTED TO GET YOU TO AUTOGRAPH SOME...

I WILL.

MY SCHOOL HAS GOT AN AUCTION

FOR THE GRADUATE WOMEN IN BUSINESS GROUP. OH, SURE.

I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A KICK

IF I GIVE THEM THAT TO AUCTION OFF.

OK. ALL RIGHT.

DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO A SIGNING, DID YOU, TAMMY?

NO, I DIDN'T.

Man: TAMMY, WHAT DID YOU WRITE?

HA HA HA!

BUT, HEY, CHARLES, YOU'RE FORGIVEN.

HA HA HA!

♪ I'M GOING TO LOVE MY ENEMIES ♪

♪ DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO ARE BAD TO ME ♪

♪ GOING TO LOVE... ♪

WELL, IF YOU CAME TO SEE ME CRY,

WELL, YOU GOT YOUR WISH.

Woman: WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT IN FRONT OF THE CAMERAS?

WELL, I WANT TO SAY I LOVE MY HUSBAND,

MY FAITH IS STILL STRONG IN THE LORD.

I STILL FEEL THERE'S NOTHING TOO HARD FOR GOD,

AND I'M STANDING ON CHRIST, A SOLID ROCK.

RuPaul: WITH A HUSBAND IN PRISON,

A RUNAWAY DAUGHTER, AND A TROUBLED SON,

TAMMY STRUGGLED TO MAKE IT ON HER OWN.

BUT IN 1992, JIM AND TAMMY'S DREAM ENDED...IN DIVORCE.

I WAS TOTALLY ALONE AND HAD NOTHING, NO ONE.

EVERYONE HAD TURNED THEIR BACK AGAINST ME ONE MORE TIME,

AND I FELT LIKE A WOMAN WITHOUT A COUNTRY.

IT'S SO OFTEN TRUE THAT CHRISTIANS ARE

ONE ARMY THAT KILLS THEIR WOUNDED.

HA HA. WE DON'T--

WE DON'T TRY TO NURSE THEM BACK TO HEALTH.

AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY WOMAN IN OUR TIME

WHO HAS BEEN SO RIDICULED, PUT DOWN, MALIGNED.

REALLY, I EQUATE HER

WITH HILLARY CLINTON...

BECAUSE THESE 2 WOMEN HAVE BOTH SUFFERED TREMENDOUSLY

BY THE THINGS THAT THEIR HUSBANDS MAY HAVE DONE.

HA. AND YET SHE JUST KEEPS GOING.

Choir: ♪ I'LL KEEP CLIMBING ♪

♪ I'LL KEEP CLIMBING ♪

♪ UP THE MOUNTAIN ♪

♪ UP THAT MOUNTAIN ♪

♪ AND I'LL MAKE IT ♪

♪ I'M GOING TO MAKE IT ♪

RuPaul: 18 MONTHS AFTER HER DIVORCE,

TAMMY SCANDALIZED THE CHURCH AND THE MEDIA

WHEN SHE REMARRIED.

HER NEW HUSBAND WAS THE MAN WHO PAID OFF JESSICA HAHN,

THE MAN WHO BUILT HERITAGE U.S.A.,

AND THE MAN WHO JIM BAKKER CALLED HIS BEST FRIEND...

ROE MESSNER.

Roe: EVERYBODY LIKES TO SAY THAT WAS PLANNED, YOU KNOW,

AND THAT ROE AND TAMMY HAD THIS BIG DEAL GOING

WHILE HE WAS IN CHARLOTTE BUILDING PTL.

NONE OF THAT'S TRUE.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, I...

LIKED TAMMY, YOU KNOW?

AND WE STARTED TALKING TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT.

UM...

AND IT JUST SORT OF HAPPENED LIKE THAT, REALLY.

RuPaul: DIVORCED AND REMARRIED,

TAMMY WAS REJECTED BY CHRISTIAN BROADCASTING,

SO SHE TURNED TO SECULAR TELEVISION,

COURTING EVEN MORE CONTROVERSY

BY HOSTING A TALK SHOW WITH AN OPENLY GAY COHOST.

Both: ♪ WE'RE NOT WHAT YOU'D EXPECT ♪

♪ WE'RE A CRAZY, KOOKY DUET ♪

♪ WE'RE A RECIPE YOU COULDN'T BAKE UP ♪

♪ 3 TIMES THE LAUGHS ♪

♪ AND 10 TIMES THE MAKEUP ♪

I THINK GAY PEOPLE LIKE TAMMY BECAUSE

TAMMY LIKES GAY PEOPLE.

AND SHE'S ONE OF THE ONLY CHRISTIANS

IN THE WORLD WHO SEEMS TO THESE DAYS.

Singers: ♪ WAY ♪

♪ ON JIM J. AND TAMMY FAYE ♪

OH, HI, EVERYONE!

THAT'S YOUR MAKE-UP KIT?

THAT'S MY MAKE-UP.

CHOCOLATE? OF COURSE, SHE'S GOT CHOCOLATE,

POTATO CHIPS, A-- MY BRA?!

WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH MY BRA?

I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF HIM AS--AS--AS GAY.

I JUST THOUGHT OF HIM AS ANOTHER HUMAN BEING

THAT I LOVED.

IT WAS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

OH, MY GOD!

HONEY, HOW ARE YOU?!

I MISSED YOU SO MUCH.

I MISSED YOU, TOO!

Jim J.: SHE HAS BEEN JUDGED BY OTHER PEOPLE

AND SHE KNOWS WHAT THAT'S LIKE.

SO ALTHOUGH TAMMY'S BELIEFS ARE NOT IN FAVOR, I DON'T THINK,

OF HOMOSEXUALITY,

SHE ALLOWED ME THE FREEDOM TO BE WHO I AM

AND DIDN'T LET THAT GET IN THE WAY OF A FRIENDSHIP.

OH, YOU DECORATE SO AWESOME.

AREN'T THESE FABULOUS? THESE ARE AWESOME.

I'M GLAD YOU GOT TO SAVE SOMETHING.

YOU WANT A DIET COKE?

HOW DID YOU KNOW?

RuPaul: TAMMY HASN'T SEEN JIM J.

SINCE HE LOST HIS LOVER TO AIDS

AND WAS HIMSELF DIAGNOSED WITH HIV.

HOW ARE YOU DOING WITHOUT JOHN?

ARE YOU DOING OK?

IT'S BEEN A LONG, HARD ROAD, YOU KNOW, BUT--

I KNOW. IT MUST BE VERY LONELY.

- I'M COMING AROUND. - ARE YOU ALL RIGHT?

- YEAH. - GOOD.

I'M A SURVIVOR LIKE YOU. I LOVED JOHN. YOU KNOW, I LOVED HIM SO MUCH.

I DON'T LABEL PEOPLE.

I REFUSE TO LABEL PEOPLE.

WE'RE ALL JUST PEOPLE MADE OUT OF THE SAME OLD DIRT.

AND GOD DIDN'T MAKE ANY JUNK.

RuPaul: BUT IN SPITE OF THEIR ON-SCREEN CHEMISTRY,

THE SHOW WAS CANCELED.

AND BEFORE SHE COULD RECOVER FROM THIS BLOW,

SHE WAS DEALT ANOTHER.

Tammy: I HAD BEEN BLEEDING FOR A YEAR.

THE BLEEDING BECAME MUCH WORSE.

AND SO MY GYNECOLOGIST SAID, "TAMMY, I THINK YOU NEED TO GO SEE A PROCTOLOGIST."

AND BY THAT TIME, OF COURSE, IT WAS TOO LATE

AND THE CANCER HAD ALREADY TAKEN PLACE IN MY BODY.

BEING WITH HER...

DURING...

UM, HER CANCER...

IN THE HOSPITAL, SLEEPING ON THE BED NEXT TO HER,

IN THE HOSPITAL...

THAT WAS...

I THINK THE CLOSEST-- CLOSEST...

I'VE EVER BEEN TO MY MOTHER.

AND I WOULDN'T TRADE IT FOR ANYTHING.

AND IT WAS WORTH EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD TO GO THROUGH CANCER

TO GET CLOSE TO MY PRECIOUS DAUGHTER

AND TO BECOME HER FRIEND, NOT JUST HER MOM.

RuPaul: BOUNCING BACK ONE MORE TIME,

TAMMY MADE A DRAMATIC RECOVERY.

John J.: THE ONE THING YOU CAN SAY ABOUT TAMMY IS

SHE IS A SURVIVOR.

I MEAN, AFTER THE HOLOCAUST, THERE WILL BE, LIKE,

ROACHES, TAMMY FAYE AND CHER.

RuPaul: INSPIRED BY HER SUCCESSFUL BATTLE WITH CANCER,

TAMMY RECORDED A SELF-HELP VIDEOTAPE GUIDE

TO SURVIVING LIFE.

IF LIFE HANDS YOU A LEMON...

START MAKING LEMONADE.

BUT BEFORE THE TAPE COULD BE RELEASED,

THE COMPANY WENT BANKRUPT.

THEN LIFE HANDED TAMMY YET ANOTHER LEMON.

IN 1996, HER HUSBAND ROE WAS SENTENCED

TO 2 YEARS IN PRISON FOR BANKRUPTCY FRAUD.

WE'RE GOING TO A PLACE CALLED BORON.

BORON IS ACTUALLY WHERE THEY USED TO MAKE BORAX.

IT'S ABOUT 2 HOURS AND 15 MINUTES FROM MY HOUSE,

GOING 75, 80 MILES AN HOUR.

WHOO! HA HA HA!

I LIKE TO GO FAST ENOUGH AND SO YOU LOSE YOUR TUMMY ON THESE BUMPS.

IF I HADN'T MARRIED TAMMY, I WOULDN'T BE IN JAIL. THAT'S TRUE.

THERE WAS MORE SAID IN MY TRIAL ABOUT MR. BAKKER

THAN THERE WAS ABOUT ME.

YOU KNOW, ANYONE CAN BE PUT IN PRISON. IF THE GOVERNMENT DECIDES

THAT THEY DON'T LIKE YOU, THEY CAN COME UP WITH ANY REASON

TO PUT YOU IN PRISON AND YOU CAN'T STOP IT.

Roe: TAMMY HAS GONE THROUGH

A LOT OF HEARTACHE IN HER LIFETIME.

AND PRISON IS HARDER ON THE WIFE THAN IT IS ON THE PRISONER.

I USED TO TELL MY MOTHER MANY TIMES, "BUT, MOM, THAT'S NOT FAIR,

THAT'S NOT FAIR," AND MY MOTHER TRAINED ME

WHEN I WAS A LITTLE GIRL AND SHE SAID, "TAMMY, WHO EVER SAID LIFE WAS FAIR?"

Roe: I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE VISITS,

BECAUSE VISITS FOR ME ARE HARD.

IT'S HARD TO SAY GOOD-BYE.

SO I'D RATHER NOT HAVE A VISIT.

RuPaul: INSTEAD OF LANGUISHING IN THE DESERT,

TAMMY DECIDED TO GET BACK IN FRONT OF THE CAMERAS,

STARTING WITH AN APPEARANCE ON THE ROSEANNE SHOW.

I WOULD MUCH RATHER PREFER TO WORK IN SECULAR TELEVISION.

I THINK CHRISTIAN TELEVISION IS VERY LIMITED IN WHAT YOU CAN DO.

Man: SO I WANT TO DO A QUICK RUN-THROUGH ON THIS,

JUST SO YOU'RE COMFORTABLE.

I'M COMFORTABLE. YOU ARE?

TODAY ON THE ROSEANNE SHOW,

INFAMOUS TELEVANGELIST TAMMY FAYE, OUTSPOKEN ACTIVIST CHASTITY BONO,

AND ONE OF THE HOTTEST BANDS AROUND--BLUES TRAVELERS-- IS HERE.

AND NOW HERE'S ROSEANNE!

THAT'S GREAT.

IT'S GOING TO BE PANDEMONIUM OUT THERE, BUT...

OK.

YOU'LL RESPOND TO THAT.

I'LL RESPOND TO THAT. OK.

I THINK WHAT THE SECULAR WORLD DOES NOT REALIZE

IS THAT I AM A VERY SECULAR PERSON.

UH, CHRIST IS JUST A PART OF ME. UH...

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE TO CONSTANTLY TALK ABOUT.

IT'S SOMETHING INSIDE ME,

AND IT JUST MAKES ME WHO I AM.

[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]

Tammy: TODAY ON THE ROSEANNE SHOW,

TELEVANGELIST TAMMY FAYE,

OUTSPOKEN ACTIVIST CHASTITY BONO,

AND ONE OF THE HOTTEST BANDS AROUND--

BLUES TRAVELERS--IS HERE.

AND NOW HERE'S ROSEANNE!

NOW, YOU'RE MAKEUP IS EXTREME.

YOU THINK IT IS? IT'S VERY EXTREME.

I DON'T MEAN TO DISRESPECT YOU.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW YOU.

I THINK I FEEL UGLY WITHOUT IT.

WELL, IF YOU THINK YOU LOOK UGLY WITHOUT IT--

I DO.

WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING-- THAT'S NOT A RIGHT WAY TO THINK.

I KNOW, ROSEANNE.

BUT, OK, SO DON'T.

BUT THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL, YOU KNOW.

BUT THAT'S THE WRONG WAY TO FEEL.

HI, GREG. IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU.

YOU'RE TALLER THAN I THOUGHT. HA HA HA!

YOU'RE SHORTER THAN I THOUGHT.

RuPaul: DECIDING IT WAS TIME FOR NEW HEADSHOTS,

TAMMY TURNED TO PHOTOGRAPHER GREG GORMAN.

HERE.

WHAT I THOUGHT WE COULD DO

IS START, MAYBE, SINCE YOU'RE PROBABLY

NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH MYSELF AS I AM WITH YOU,

IS SIT DOWN, LET ME SHOW YOU SOME OF MY WORK,

AND LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO.

SOUNDS GOOD.

OH, YES! MY FAVORITE LADY IN THE WHOLE WORLD.

SARAH, THE DUCHESS OF YORK.

I WANTED TO SHOW YOU HOW WE'VE KIND OF

TAKEN HER OUT OF THE REALM OF HOW PEOPLE HAD SEEN HER

AND GIVEN HER KIND OF A NEW LOOK.

MM-HMM. WHAT WE DID IS BASICALLY...

MADE HER SOFT, SOFTENED HER.

SOFTEN, SOFTENED HER.

SHE'S BEAUTIFUL.

SO YOU'VE NEVER DONE PICTURES WITHOUT THOSE EYELASHES?

NO, AND I NEVER WILL BECAUSE THAT'S MY TRADEMARK. RIGHT.

AND IF I TAKE MY TRADEMARK AWAY,

THEN IT'S NOT ME.

AND SO I HOLD ONTO THAT, I THINK--

EVEN IF WE SOFTEN THEM AND KEPT THEM--

NO, NO. THEY STAY JUST WHERE THEY ARE. OK.

YOU CAN DO ANYTHING ELSE,

BUT MY EYELASHES WILL STAY WHERE THEY ARE.

YOU GOT IT.

Choir: ♪ HALLELU ♪

♪ HALLELU ♪

♪ HALLELU ♪

♪ HALLELU ♪

♪ HALLELUJAH ♪

NORMALLY A PERSON WOULD COME TO A PHOTO SHOOT,

ESPECIALLY WITH, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR TEAM OF PLAYERS

LIKE THE PHOTOGRAPHER AND THE HAIRDRESSER AND THE STYLIST,

THEY COME BLANK. THEY COME WITH NO MAKEUP ON, WITHOUT THEIR HAIR DONE.

TAMMY FAYE CAME ALL MADE UP,

SO WE TOOK IT ALL OFF, STARTED OVER.

OK. SO I'M GOING TO START BY TAKING SOME OFF.

OK.

I'M GOING TO TAKE YOUR FOUNDATION OFF.

OK.

AND NORMALLY START AGAIN.

OK.

CAN YOU TAKE YOUR LIPS OFF?

YOU WANT A LITTLE REMOVER?

THAT'S IT.

THEY'RE PERMANENTLY LINED.

OH.

AND MY EYES ARE PERMANENTLY LINED.

MY EYEBROWS ARE PERMANENTLY LINED.

SO THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT YOU CAN DO WITH THAT.

MY GOODNESS. I DIDN'T KNOW.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD FEEL BETTER

IF WE DO A BEFORE AND AFTER WITH THE CAMERA

AND NOT DO SO MUCH OF THIS, PLEASE.

I THINK WE'RE GONNA START WITH

MAYBE THIS LONG LEATHER JACKET, CK.

KIND OF TOUGH BUT FITTED,

AND GIVE A SEXY LOOK, BUT IT'S A POWER LOOK, ALSO--

"I'M IN CHARGE."

NO. I DON'T FEEL GOOD IN THIS.

THIS IS NOT ME. UH-UH.

FEEL TOO...

I'M TOO--IT'S JUST NOT ME AT ALL.

OK.

SHE BROUGHT A FEW THINGS OF HER OWN

THAT WE MIGHT NOT GET TO TODAY.

I GET SO SICK OF THIS HOLLYWOOD CRAP.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

I LIKE REAL.

I AGREE.

I'M AN OLD FARM GIRL AND I LIKE REAL.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M WEARING ALL THESE WIGS!

♪ GLORIA, GLORIA ♪

♪ GLORIA, GLORIA ♪

Tammy: I WAS A LITTLE DISCONCERTED.

THEY LOOK AT YOUR FACE AND FIGURE OUT THAT

YOU'VE GOT TO COCK IT THIS WAY TO LOOK GOOD.

THIS WAY?

Greg: YEAH. THAT'S PERFECT.

I DID HAVE TO TAKE A LOT OF THE MASCARA OFF,

WHICH WAS OK WITH ME BECAUSE IT ENDED UP BEING WHAT I THOUGHT

A VERY GOOD LOOK FOR ME.

♪ GLORIA ♪

[SINGING IN LATIN]

I WANTED TO LEAVE THE PHOTO SESSION

AND GO DIRECTLY TO THE PLASTIC SURGEON.

COULD I HAVE AFFORDED IT, I WOULD HAVE,

BUT UNFORTUNATELY I'M STILL HERE.

RuPaul: THE NEXT DAY TAMMY WENT TO USA NETWORKS

TO PITCH HER IDEAS FOR TV SHOWS

TO NETWORK EXECUTIVE STEVEN CHOW,

CREATOR OF COPS AND STUDS.

HELLO. WELL, HI, STEVEN!

HOW ARE YOU? NICE TO MEET YOU. I'M TAMMY.

NICE TO MEET YOU. HI. HAVE A SEAT.

OK. THANK YOU.

SO YOU HERE TO PITCH SOMETHING.

WELL, YOU'RE HERE TO PITCH, SO START, RIGHT?

OK. WELL, NO, I--

I'VE GOT 3 IDEAS, STEVEN,

AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU SEE ME AS DOING.

BUT ONE OF MY IDEAS IS A CHILDREN'S SHOW,

WHERE WE TALK TO PUPPETS AND WE TALK TO THE KIDS,

AND THEN KIDS TALKING TO PUPPETS ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS

AND THEIR CONCERNS AND THINGS WHICH BOTHER THEM.

IT WOULD BE A FUN SHOW WITH SOME SERIOUS PARTS ONCE IN A WHILE, YOU KNOW.

IT'S A WAY TO GO. I'M NOT SURE IT'S--

BUT WHAT ABOUT PUPPETS AND... EVERYBODY LOVES PUPPETS. EVEN ADULTS...

SURE.

LOVE PUPPETS.

UH-HUH.

I HAVE ANOTHER ONE.

TEENAGERS NEED SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL.

THEY NEED A FORMAT FOR A LOT OF THINGS.

AND THEY HAVE NO WAY-- THE BIGGEST THING THEY ALWAYS SAY,

"WELL, HOW DO WE GET ANYONE TO LISTEN TO US?"

AND I WOULD JUST LOVE TO GIVE THEM THAT CHANCE.

AND GO WHERE THEY GO.

I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE PIERCING PARLORS WITH THEM.

I'D LIKE TO GO TO THE TATTOO PLACES WITH THEM.

JUST DO EVERYTHING THAT TEENAGERS DO.

AND--AND YOU WOULD CALL THIS SHOW WHAT?

TAMMY'S TERRIFIC TEENS

WOULD BE A FUN TITLE.

AND, UM...

ALL RIGHT. NO, I'M JUST CURIOUS.

YEAH, YEAH, WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING FUN.

AND THEN I'VE GOT ONE MORE. HA HA HA.

OK. NO, NO, NO. I MEAN, WE'LL CIRCLE BACK.

OK. MEDICINE TODAY WITH TAMMY FAYE.

PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW,

IN THE MARKET THAT'S COMING UP NEW

AND WHAT IS AVAILABLE-- THE OLD THINGS THAT WORK IN MEDICINE.

UM...

I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO GO SIT WITH ALZHEIMER'S PATIENTS

AND EXPLAIN ALL-- HAVE THE DOCTORS EXPLAIN ALZHEIMER'S.

AY YI YI.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST THROWING THESE OUT.

IT'S JUST IDEAS THAT I'VE HAD FROM BEING ON--

YOU KNOW, JUST IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN SWIMMING AROUND IN MY HEAD.

WHAT DO YOU SEE ME DOING, STEVE?

YOU'RE THE-- I DON'T KNOW.

YOU'RE THE... I MEAN, I DON'T...

EXPERT. I MEAN, I THINK-- I SUSPECT, AND I'M

MAKING A STATEMENT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE,

BUT I THINK THAT YOU WANT TO BE ON THE AIR.

YOU REALLY LIKE BEING IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA.

WELL, I LOVE THE CAM-- I DO LOVE THE CAMERA.

BECAUSE I THINK-- WHY?

BECAUSE IT'S A PERSON.

I'VE NEVER BEEN IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA

SO I'M NOT SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE APPEAL.

BECAUSE IT'S PEOPLE. IT'S NOT A CAMERA.

IT'S PEOPLE. IT'S SOMEONE TO TALK TO.

I--I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW.

YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. I CAN'T HELP--

I CAN'T--I MEAN, I HAVE NO PLACE FOR A TALK SHOW.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, STEVEN.

I SHOULD WALK YOU DOWNSTAIRS TO LIFETIME

WHICH ABOUT 15 FLOORS BELOW US RIGHT NOW.

WELL, MAYBE YOU COULD PUT MY NAME IN AT LIFETIME,

SEE MAYBE SOMEONE WOULD BE INTERESTED THERE.

I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, STEVEN.

[TELEPHONE RINGING]

Woman: GOOD AFTERNOON, LIFETIME.

IS DAWN THERE? IT'S STEVEN CHOW.

RuPaul: THE CALL TO LIFETIME

WENT UNRETURNED, AND TAMMY FOUND OTHER NETWORKS

UNWILLING TO MEET AND DISCUSS HER TELEVISION COMEBACK.

SO SHE RETURNED TO THE DESERT...

Tammy: COME ON, MUFFIN.

[WHISTLING]

MUFFIN?

RuPaul: ALONE, WITH HER DOLLS,

HER DOGS...

YOU STAY, RIGHT THERE.

AND HER FAITH.

♪ HALLELUJAH ♪

♪ HALLELUJAH ♪

♪ HALLELUJAH ♪

Man: MY WIFE AND I RAN INTO TAMMY FAYE,

AND WE'D MET HER PRIOR AND I SAID,

"WELL, TAMMY FAYE, WHY DON'T YOU COME TO CHURCH?"

AND SHE SAID, "OH, I COULDN'T COME TO CHURCH

BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DIVORCED."

WHEN WE DO KIND OF MISS THE MARK,

WHAT GOD HAS TO SAY IS COME BACK.

Tammy: GOING BACK TO CHURCH WAS VERY FRIGHTENING FOR ME.

BUT AS I WALKED IN OUR CHURCH,

PASTOR JEFF CAME AND PUT THOSE GREAT BIG OL' ARMS AROUND ME,

AND HE SAID, "TAMMY FAYE, WE WANT YOU HERE."

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN,

I BELONGED AT PASTOR JEFF'S CHURCH.

RuPaul: TODAY TAMMY LEADS THE CHOIR

AND PLAYS FRANK SINATRA'S ORGAN,

A BEQUEST TO THE CHURCH.

Tammy: YOU CANNOT GO FORWARD LOOKING IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR OF YOUR LIFE.

JUST DROP IT ALL AND MOVE ON

AND IT'S THE ONLY WAY IN LIFE

THAT YOU WILL EVER FIND PEACE, JOY AND VICTORY.

[GRRR]

RuPaul: FINALLY TAMMY HAD THE CONFIDENCE

TO SING AGAIN.

SHE ACCEPTED AN INVITATION TO SING AT ORAL ROBERTS UNIVERSITY

IN THE HEART OF BIBLE COUNTRY.

Tammy: I DREADED GOING BACK

BECAUSE THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY HAD BEEN SO UNKIND TO US,

AND I FELT WE HAD BEEN JUDGED SO UNFAIRLY

BY OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE LORD.

TO MAKE THE TRIP, TAMMY ALSO HAD TO OVERCOME HER FEAR OF FLYING.

I USED TO BE HORRIBLY NERVOUS ON AIRPLANES.

I'M ONLY SLIGHTLY NERVOUS ON AN AIRPLANE NOW,

AND IT'S GETTING BETTER ALL THE TIME.

[THUNDER]

RuPaul: BAD WEATHER GROUNDED THE PLANE IN DALLAS.

Man: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS THE CAPTAIN SPEAKING.

THE GUST FRONT HAS JUST HIT,

SO WE ARE GOING TO BE SITTING HERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

I DON'T LIKE THIS AT ALL.

I'M SCARED.

I THINK WE'RE SAFE IN HERE WITH LIGHTNING

BECAUSE IT'S GOT TIRES ON IT, RIGHT?

IF THIS PLANE DIDN'T HAVE TIRES ON IT,

WOULD WE ALL BE FRIED?

I DON'T KNOW.

♪ WHOO HOO ♪

NOW, HERE ARE THE OPTIONS. WE'RE ALL HUNGRY.

Woman: WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SITTING HERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE LONGER.

HELLO, TAMMY. [SILLY VOICE] WELL, HELLO THERE.

[REGULAR VOICE] ARE YOU ANXIOUS TO GET TO TULSA?

[SILLY VOICE] SURE AS HECK AM.

WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD DRIVE.

[REGULAR VOICE] ME, TOO, TAM.

Man: SHE'S A FABULOUS SINGER.

UH, SHE REALLY CONNECTS WELL WITH THE PEOPLE.

THIS WAS HER FIRST CONCERT IN OVER A DECADE.

♪ YOU GAVE ME ♪

♪ THE CHANCE I NEEDED ♪

♪ TO START AGAIN ♪

Tammy: I WAS VERY, VERY NERVOUS

BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW HOW I WOULD BE TREATED

AFTER SO MANY YEARS.

♪ AND-- ♪

THERE'S TOO MUCH BASS IN THIS DOWN HERE

IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.

ALL I'M HEARING IS BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM.

David: THERE'S AN ELDERLY LADY IN MY DAD'S CHURCH,

AND WHEN SHE FOUND OUT THAT TAMMY FAYE

WAS GOING TO BE PREACHING AT BROTHER DAVID'S CHURCH,

SHE SAID, "WHY IS SHE COMING HERE?"

SHE JUST HAPPENED TO BE STANDING IN THE RIGHT PLACE

WHILE TAMMY FAYE WAS COMING OUT OF HER ROOM

GETTING READY TO GO ON STAGE AND SING,

AND I DIDN'T SAY A WORD.

Tammy: HI, HOW ARE YOU TODAY?

I'M FINE. HOW ARE YOU, DARLIN'?

GOD BLESS YOU. BLESS YOUR HEART.

BLESS YOUR HEART.

David: THE NEXT DAY THIS LADY WAS SITTING ON THE SECOND ROW,

JUST WITH THIS BIG OL'-- I THINK THEY'RE HER OWN TEETH, BY THE WAY, TOO--

THIS BIG OL' SET OF TEETH AND JUST SMILING

AND JUST ROOTING TAMMY ON AND RUBBING HER ON THE BACK AND PATTING HER.

SO TALKING ABOUT RESERVATIONS,

WHY DO CHRISTIANS HAVE RESERVATIONS?

BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HER.

Announcer: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

TONIGHT'S SPECIAL GUEST: TAMMY FAYE.

Tammy Faye: WHEN I WALKED IN

AND WAS RECEIVED WITH SO MUCH LOVE

AND GENUINELY, THEY SEEMED HAPPY TO SEE ME,

WHICH I WAS GENUINELY HAPPY TO BE BACK

WHERE I ONCE BELONGED.

GOSH.

I NEED A KLEENEX. HA HA.

♪ GLORY, GLORY, HALLELUJAH ♪

♪ GLORY, GLORY, HALLELUJAH ♪

♪ GLORY, GLORY HALLELUJAH ♪

♪ HIS TRUTH IS MARCHING ON ♪

♪ HIS TRUTH IS MARCHING ON ♪

THANK YOU, LORD,

FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

WE PRAY FOR OUR PRESIDENT, O FATHER.

WE THANK YOU, LORD, THAT WE LIVE IN THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

HALLELUJAH.

OH, YES.

Tammy Faye: IN ANCIENT CIVILIZATION,

IF YOU MURDERED SOMEBODY, THEY DIDN'T PUT YOU IN JAIL.

THEY DID SOMETHING FAR WORSE.

THEY TOOK THE PERSON THAT YOU MURDERED

AND STUCK HIM ON YOUR BACK.

CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE

TO HAVE A DEAD PERSON STRAPPED TO YOUR BACK?

WELL, THE FIRST THING THAT STARTS HAPPENING,

THEY START DECAYING.

OH, GOSH, AND THEY START SMELLING BAD

AND THEN BUGS GET ON THEM.

YOU KNOW, WHAT DO THEY CALL THOSE THINGS THAT EAT THEM?

MAGGOTS! OOH! MAGGOTS! MAGGOTS!

I HAD JERRY FALWELL STRAPPED ON MY BACK FOR A LONG TIME.

HE WAS ON MY BACK STRAPPED SO TIGHTLY TO ME

I COULDN'T-- I COULDN'T BREATHE.

I COULD HARDLY EAT.

I HAD A HARD TIME SLEEPING.

I WAS MISERABLE. HE WAS DESTROYING MY LIFE.

JERRY FALWELL WAS KILLING ME

ALL BECAUSE I WAS SO ANGRY AT SOMEONE I COULDN'T FORGET.

NOW, WAS IT HURTING JERRY FALWELL THAT I WAS ANGRY?

HA HA HA HA. HE'S DEAD.

THE ONLY ONE IT WAS KILLING WAS TAMMY FAYE,

AND ONE DAY, I GAVE JERRY FALWELL TO THE LORD.

AND I SAID, "LORD, THERE'S NOT A THING I CAN DO ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

"IT'S GONE. I CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT WHAT JERRY FALWELL DID

"TO HERITAGE U.S.A. AND PTL.

"THAT'S ALL OVER,

"BUT I CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT MYSELF

AND THE WAY I FEEL."

RuPaul: THANKSGIVING, 1998.

WITH JUST A FEW MONTHS TO GO TILL ROE'S RELEASE,

TAMMY RETURNS TO HERITAGE U.S.A.

FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE SHE AND JIM LOST THEIR PTL MINISTRY IN 1987.

SINCE BANKRUPTCY, THE 2,200 ACRE COMPLEX

HAS LAIN EMPTY AND ABANDONED.

♪ ON THE PAGES OF MY MIND ♪

♪ LORD, I OFTEN FIND ♪

♪ MEMORIES ♪

♪ OF THE TEARS I'VE CRIED ♪

♪ OF THE DAYS GONE BY ♪

♪ OF THE PAIN I'VE SEEN ♪

♪ OH, I TRIED TO UNDERSTAND WITH A FRIEND'S HELPING HAND ♪

♪ IT SEEMED FUTILITY... ♪

Tammy Faye: JIM WOULD HAVE NEVER ALLOWED...

A CHAIR LIKE THIS...

TO SIT.

AT HERITAGE U.S.A. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PAINTED.

HE NEVER ALLOWED A LIGHT BULB TO BE OUT,

HE NEVER ALLOWED A DIRTY REST ROOM,

HE NEVER ALLOWED GRASS TO GROW UNCUT,

AND HE WOULD HAVE NEVER ALLOWED THIS.

WHEN I LOOK AT THIS CHAIR RUSTED AWAY,

THAT'S SORT OF WHAT'S HAPPENED TO HERITAGE U.S.A.,

AND HOW I WOULD LOVE TO PUT A FRESH COAT OF PAINT ON IT...

AND MAKE IT LIVE AGAIN...

[SOBS]

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T DO THAT.

THIS MORNING, WHEN I WAS NEEDING SOME COMFORT,

I TURNED TO MY FAVORITE SCRIPTURE, PSALMS 91.

"HE THAT DWELLETH IN THE SECRET PLACE OF THE MOST HIGH

SHALL ABIDE UNDER THE SHADOW OF THE ALMIGHTY."

THIS IS THE PART I LIKE.

[REPRESSING TEARS]

"HE SHALL COVER THEE WITH HIS FEATHERS

AND UNDER HIS WINGS SHALT THOU TRUST."

"BECAUSE HE HAS SET HIS LOVE UPON ME,

"THEREFORE WILL I DELIVER HIM.

"I WILL SET HIM ON HIGH BECAUSE HE HATH KNOWN MY NAME.

"HE SHALL CALL UPON ME AND I WILL ANSWER HIM.

"I WILL BE WITH HIM IN TROUBLE.

"I WILL DELIVER HIM AND HONOR HIM,

"AND WITH LONG LIFE, I WILL SATISFY HIM

AND SHOW HIM MY SALVATION."

I WILL HUG ROE TODAY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2 YEARS

WITHOUT HAVING PEOPLE STANDING THERE WATCHING ME.

Roe: I'M STILL NUMB, REALLY.

YOU KNOW, BEING AWAY FROM YOUR WIFE AND FAMILY

IS REALLY HARD.

IT'S JUST...YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT

OTHER THAN THAT.

WELL, WE GOTTA GO GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER AGAIN.

GOOD-BYE.

Tammy Faye: I'M JUST A SMALL TOWN GIRL AT HEART

AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE TREES AND THE GRASS

AND THE FLOWERS AND MY KIDS AND MY GRANDKIDS.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO IT, THAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS.

THAT'S WHAT COUNTS IN LIFE, AND I'VE LEARNED THAT.

IT'S NOT WHAT YOU HAVE

AND--AND--AND STUFF.

IT'S PEOPLE THAT COUNT.

♪ DON'T GIVE UP ON THE BRINK OF A MIRACLE ♪

♪ DON'T GIVE IN WHILE HE'S STILL ON THE THRONE ♪

♪ DON'T GIVE UP ON THE BRINK OF A MIRACLE ♪

♪ DON'T GIVE UP ♪

♪ REMEMBER YOU'RE NOT ALONE ♪

♪ WELL, THE DEVIL IS A THIEF ♪

♪ AND HE SENDS ALL THOSE TROUBLES TO CONFOUND YOU ♪

♪ AND HE LIES AND SAYS THIS TIME ♪

♪ THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN FIND TO MAKE IT THROUGH ♪

♪ GOD'S WORD IS TRUE ♪

♪ THE DEVIL IS THE LORD'S ♪

♪ DON'T GIVE IN TO FEAR ♪

♪ THINK ON THINGS THAT ARE PURE ♪

♪ AND PRAISE THE LORD ♪

♪ YOUR MIRACLE IS HERE ♪

♪ DON'T GIVE UP ON THE BRINK OF A MIRACLE ♪

♪ DON'T YOU GIVE IN ♪

♪ GOD IS STILL ON HIS THRONE ♪

♪ DON'T GIVE UP ♪

♪ YOU'RE ON THE BRINK OF YOUR MIRACLE ♪

♪ DON'T GIVE UP ♪

♪ REMEMBER YOU'RE NOT ALONE ♪

♪ NOW, DON'T GIVE UP ♪

♪ ON THE BRINK OF A MIRACLE ♪

♪ DON'T GIVE IN ♪

♪ REMEMBER YOU'RE NOT ALONE ♪

♪ OH, DON'T GIVE IN ♪

♪ REMEMBER YOU'RE NOT ALONE ♪

♪ YOU'RE NOT ALONE! ♪

COME ON, PEOPLE, DON'T YOU DARE GIVE UP!