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Tammy Faye: I THINK THE EYES
ARE SO IMPORTANT.

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I BELIEVE THEY ARE
THE EYES OF THE SOUL.
I TRULY DO.

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AND I THINK YOU CAN
LOOK IN SOMEONE'S EYES

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AND REALLY TELL
WHAT KIND OF A PERSON
AND WHAT THEIR HEART IS.

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AND SO WHEN MY PRECIOUS
FRIENDS DIE,

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I ALWAYS ASK IF I COULD
PLEASE HAVE THEIR GLASSES.

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WHEN MY MOM DIED,

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I GOT MY MAMA'S GLASSES,

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AND THEY'RE VERY,
VERY PRECIOUS TO ME.

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I LIKE TO PUT THEM ON
SOMETIMES AND THINK,

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"YOU KNOW, MAMA
LOOKED THROUGH THESE.

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RuPaul: TAMMY FAYE
IS THE FIRST LADY OF
RELIGIOUS BROADCASTING.

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TOGETHER, WITH HER
HUSBAND JIM BAKKER,

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SHE PIONEERED
THE ELECTRIC CHURCH.

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FROM THE SIXTIES
THROUGH THE MID-EIGHTIES,

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THEY BUILT NOT ONE,
BUT 3 RELIGIOUS NETWORKS,

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GROWING THE MEDIUM
FROM A MOTLEY GROUP
OF LOCAL STATIONS

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INTO A GLOBAL CONCERN.

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AT THEIR PEAK, THEY
PRESIDED OVER THE LARGEST

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AND MOST SUCCESSFUL
CHRISTIAN TELEVISION
MINISTRY OF ITS DAY.

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THEIR CHRISTIAN RETREAT,
HERITAGE U.S.A.,

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WAS, AFTER DISNEY WORLD
AND DISNEYLAND,

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AMERICA'S MOST POPULAR
THEME PARK.

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THEN, IN THE MID-EIGHTIES,

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THEIR WORLD CAME
CRASHING DOWN.

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Reporter: TROUBLES
FOR JIM BAKKER BEGAN

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WITH THE REVELATION
OF HIS SEXUAL ENCOUNTER
WITH JESSICA HAHN.

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Second reporter:
TAMMY BAKKER CAME
OUT OF THE CLOSET

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TO REVEAL HERSELF
AS A DRUG ADDICT.

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WE DID NOT ASK
JERRY FALWELL

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TO TAKE OVER
OUR MINISTRY.

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Third reporter:
THE MINISTRY IS NOW STRUGGLING
WITH A $16-MILLION DEBT.

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THE U.S. BANKRUPTCY
COURT IS NOW...

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Fourth reporter:
THE GOVERNMENT SAID BAKKER
WAS A SLICK CON MAN,

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CHEATING HIS FOLLOWERS
OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

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RuPaul: WHATEVER HAPPENED
TO TAMMY FAYE?

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12 LONG YEARS AFTER
HER FALL FROM GRACE,

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TAMMY LIVES
IN VIRTUAL EXILE

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IN A GATED COMMUNITY
IN PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA.

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Tammy: OK, I'M GOING
TO READ YOU MY POEM.

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ARE YOU READY?

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"LONELINESS CLINGS TO ME
LIKE A SECOND SKIN,

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"THREATENING
TO SMOTHER ME
FROM WITHIN.

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"WHY GET READY
FOR THE DAY?

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"WHAT DOES IT MATTER
TO MYSELF, I SAY?

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"MY BODY ACHES ALL NIGHT,
ALL DAY,

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"AND I'M TOO TIRED
TO EVEN PRAY.

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"MUNDANE HOUSEHOLD
CHORES I DO,

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"VACUUM FLOORS
AND PICK UP POO.

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"I TRY NOT TO THINK
OF DAYS GONE BY,

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"TO DO SO ONLY
MAKES ME CRY.

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WHY ME, GOD, I SAY,
WHY?"

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IT'S A LITTLE
DRAMATIC, I GUESS,

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BUT IT'S HOW I FELT
AT THE TIME.

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I'VE OFTEN THOUGHT
I SHOULD PROBABLY
BE ON BROADWAY--

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[LAUGHS]
WITH ALL MY DRAMA.

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Both:...

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WHEN SHE WAS BORN,
SHE HAD PERFECTLY
MANICURED FINGERNAILS.

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RuPaul: THE ELDEST
OF 8 CHILDREN,

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TAMMY FAYE LaVALLEY
GREW UP IN INTERNATIONAL
FALLS, MINNESOTA.

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Virginia Fairchild:
THEIR HOUSE WAS BIG
ENOUGH FOR ALL OF THEM,

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BUT NOT A NICE ONE.

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IN THOSE DAYS,
YOU DIDN'T SPEND MONEY

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FOR ANYTHING
BUT FOOD AND CLOTHES,

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BECAUSE YOU JUST DIDN'T
HAVE IT, YOU KNOW?

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I DON'T THINK SHE HAD
A VERY HAPPY...

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GROWING-UP YEARS,
YOU KNOW?

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I MEAN, WHAT DID
SHE REALLY HAVE TO BE
OVERLY OVERJOYED ABOUT?

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I MEAN, HELPING
TAKE CARE OF KIDS, YEAH,

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BECAUSE SHE HAD TO.

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RuPaul: BUT EVEN
IN HER TEENS,

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TAMMY HAD HER FAITH
TO TURN TO.

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SHE HAD A LITTLE WART
ON ONE FINGER.

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SHE ASKED GOD,

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AND THE MESSAGE
THAT SHE GOT WAS,

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"PUT THAT FINGER
IN THE COMMUNION CUP
BEFORE YOU DRINK."

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AND SHE BROUGHT IT OUT,

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PARTOOK OF THE BREAD
AND THE JUICE,

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AND THE WART WAS GONE.

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WE HAD BEEN RAISED IN
THE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD.

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AND WE ALWAYS
SORT OF FELT

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THE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD
PREACHED THAT

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GOD WAS LOOKING DOWN
AT YOU FROM HEAVEN

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WITH A BIG HUGE
HAMMER IN HIS HAND

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AND THAT IF YOU DID
ANYTHING WRONG,

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HE WAS GOING TO HIT YOU
OVER THE HEAD WITH
THIS HAMMER

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AND SEND YOU
STRAIGHT TO HELL.

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Johnny Grover:
SHE WAS ALMOST SCARED
INTO STAYING CLOSE TO GOD.

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I STILL SAY ADA DEHREN
IS HER SAVIOR,

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BECAUSE SHE WAS THE ONE
THAT BOUGHT THE MAKE-UP
AT THE RUMMAGE SALE.

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[LAUGHS] THEY WERE
THE FIRST ONES TO TRY MAKE-UP.

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SEE ALL THIS STUFF?
LOOK AT ALL THIS STUFF.

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THAT'S MY BLUSH.
IT'S ALMOST GONE.

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I GOT TO GO
TO THE SWAP MEET
AND GET SOME MORE.

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I BUY IT AT
THE SWAP MEET.

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MY POWDER THAT
KIND OF--

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WHEN I CRY,
IT TAKES AWAY THE TEARS.

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THIS IS MY
EYEBROW STUFF,

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ALTHOUGH I DON'T
REALLY NEED TO PUT ON
EYEBROW STUFF,

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BECAUSE ME EYEBROWS
ARE PERMANENT.

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THIS TURNS PINK
WHEN YOU PUT IT ON.

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SEE? BUT IT'S WHITE
TO START WITH.

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EYELASH GLUE.

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OH, HERE'S--
I DON'T KNOW
WHAT THAT IS.

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OH, HERE'S MY MASCARA
THAT I'M SO FAMOUS FOR.

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AS YOU SEE, IT IS
L'OREAL WATERPROOF
LASH OUT MAKE-UP.

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AND, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE,
IT'S MUCH USED.

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MUCH LOVED.

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THEY ARE PUT ON SINGLY,

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AND, UH, WITH LOTS
OF MASCARA.

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THEY DON'T COME OFF,
I MEAN, THEY'RE...

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THEY HAVE TO,
LITERALLY,
KIND OF WEAR OFF.

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AND SO, ONCE IN A WHILE,
ONE WILL DROP OFF,

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AND WHEN IT DOES,
I PUT ANOTHER ONE IN.

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WITHOUT MY EYELASHES,
I WOULDN'T BE TAMMY FAYE.

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I DON'T KNOW WHO I'D BE,
BUT I WOULDN'T BE ME.

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RuPaul: IN 1960, AGED 17,
TAMMY WENT TO BIBLE COLLEGE

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WHERE SHE MET
AND FELL IN LOVE

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WITH A YOUNG, CHARISMATIC
PREACHER NAMED JIM BAKKER.

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THE NEXT YEAR,
ON APRIL FOOL'S DAY,
JIM AND TAMMY WERE MARRIED.

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THE YOUNG NEWLYWEDS
LIVED ON THE ROAD,

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STRUGGLING TO MAKE A LIVING
AS ITINERANT PREACHERS,

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JOINING A TRADITION OF
TRAVELING EVANGELISM

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PIONEERED BY MINISTERS
LIKE ORAL ROBERTS.

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EVERYTHING THAT'S
EVERY BEEN DONE
THAT'S WORTHWHILE

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HAS BEEN DONE BY MEN,

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BY WOMEN WHO SAID,
"I DON'T CARE WHAT
THE COST IS,

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I'M GOING TO DO THIS
FOR THE GLORY OF GOD."

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RuPaul: A BLEND
OF CHRISTIANITY
AND SHOWMANSHIP,

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IT WAS A GROWING TREND
THAT WOULD CULMINATE

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IN THE CREATION
OF TELEVANGELISM...

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THE ELECTRIC CHURCH.

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TODAY, IT BOASTS OVER
2,500 RADIO AND TV STATIONS,

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REACHING AN
ESTIMATED AUDIENCE
OF 20 MILLION PEOPLE.

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SATELLITES CIRCLE THE GLOBE,

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BEAMING OUT THOUSANDS
OF PROGRAMS

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24 HOURS A DAY,
7 DAYS A WEEK,

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AND GENERATING MILLIONS
OF DOLLARS IN REVENUE.

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Announcer: THE CHRISTIAN
SHOPPING NETWORK.

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THE ONLY NETWORK WHERE
YOU SOW THE KINGDOM OF GOD,

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WHILE YOU PURCHASE
YOUR FAVORITE PRODUCTS
AT LOWER THAN RETAIL PRICE...

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RuPaul: BUT IT ALL
STARTED OUT WITH PUPPETS,

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JIM AND TAMMY'S PUPPETS.

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OH, YEAH, WE PRACTICALLY
STARTED THE ELECTRIC CHURCH.

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WE HAD BOUGHT SILKY
BUBBLE BATH, OF ALL THINGS,

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AND WE SAW THESE LITTLE
HEADS ON THE BUBBLE BATH,

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AND I--I STARTED
TALKING FOR THEM.

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YOU KNOW, MAKING
LITTLE VOICES.

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[IN A SILLY VOICE]
"HELLO, THERE."

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THOSE KINDS OF
LITTLE VOICES.

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AND JIM SAID, "TAMMY,
WE COULD MAKE PUPPETS
OUT OF THESE THINGS,

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AND WE COULD USE THEM
IN CHURCH FOR THE KIDS."

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WE TOOK THE SILKY
BUBBLE BATH, IT WAS PORKY PIG,

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WE MELTED THE EARS DOWN
AND MADE A LITTLE GIRL PIGGY.

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SHE HAD TO HAVE A FRIEND,

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SO WE MADE AN ALLIGATOR
THAT TALKED LIKE THIS,

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[LOW-PITCHED VOICE]
"HELLO.
I'M ALLIE THE ALLIGATOR.

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[HIGH-PITCHED VOICE]
"AND I'M SUSIE MUPPET."

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I WORKED THEM WITH
MY HANDS, LIKE THIS.

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THIS WAS THEIR LITTLE HANDS,
AND THIS WAS THEIR HEAD.

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♪ JESUS TAKES A FROWN ♪

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♪ AND HE TURNS IT
UPSIDE DOWN ♪

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♪ AND OOPS! ♪

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♪ HERE COMES
A SMILE... ♪

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RuPaul: SUSIE MUPPET
AND ALLIE THE ALLIGATOR

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ATTRACTED THE ATTENTION OF
TV MINISTER PAT ROBERTSON.

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HE RAN A SMALL LOCAL STATION

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AND DREAMT OF
BUILDING A CHRISTIAN
BROADCASTING NETWORK.

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Jim Bakker:
WE GOT A CALL
FROM PAT ROBERTSON.

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HE WANTED
TO MEET WITH US.
AND HE SAID,

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"WOULD YOU CONSIDER
JOINING THE NETWORK?"

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WELL, THE NETWORK
WAS ONE STATION,

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A ONE-KILOWATT
TELEVISION STATION.

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IT HARDLY WENT DOWN
THE BLOCK AT TIMES.

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Announcer:
IT'S TIME FOR THE NATIONS
BIGGEST YARD PARTY,

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THE JIM and TAMMY SHOW.

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HI, EVERYBODY!

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All: HI,
JIM AND TAMMY!

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Jim Bakker: WE DID NOT
HAVE A SCRIPT,

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SO EVERYTHING WAS
REALLY AD-LIBBED.

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I THINK JIM, ACTUALLY,
WAS A LITTLE NERVOUS
AROUND THE PUPPETS,

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BECAUSE HE NEVER REALLY KNEW
WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO SAY.

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JIM, YOU JUST ATE
MY SHRIMP UP.

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[GASPS] OH, I WAS
JUST STANDING HERE--

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SHUT UP!

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Jim: SUSIE WAS
THE BAD TAMMY FAYE,

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AND ALLIE WAS ALWAYS
SOMEHOW--

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SHE HAD A SPLIT
PERSONALITY,

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'CAUSE ALLIE WAS
ALWAYS NICE TO ME,

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BUT SUSIE MUPPET WAS
ALWAYS ARGUING WITH ME.

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AND I MEAN, IF THOSE
PEOPLE AT HOME,

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I DON'T KNOW
IF THEY KNEW...

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WE WERE HAVING
LEGITIMATE FIGHTS,

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ONLY WE WERE DOING IT
THROUGH THESE PUPPETS.

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BUT FOR SOME REASON,

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THE SHOW BECAME
THE NUMBER ONE PROGRAM
ON C.B.N.

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♪ I'M GOING
TO LOVE MY ENEMIES ♪

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♪ DO GOOD TO THOSE
WHO ARE BAD TO ME ♪

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♪ GOING TO LOVE... ♪

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I MEAN,
WHAT DID JIM HENSON HAVE

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BUT JIM AND TAMMY
GONE BERSERK.

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♪ SO GOOD AND FREE ♪

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♪ SO GOOD AND FREE ♪

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RuPaul: JIM AND TAMMY
HAD AGREED TO WORK
FOR PAT ROBERTSON

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ON CONDITION THAT
THEY COULD ALSO START
A LATE-NIGHT TALK SHOW.

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HE SAID, "I'LL MAKE
A DEAL WITH YOU.

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"IF YOU GET THE KID SHOW
UP AND RUNNING,

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THEN YOU CAN DO THIS
LATE-NIGHT SHOW."

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AND SO PAT HONORED
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AND JIM STARTED
WHAT WAS CALLED THE 700 CLUB,

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THE FIRST CHRISTIAN
TALK SHOW IN HISTORY.

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Announcer: SO HERE'S
YOUR HOST ON...

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HELLO, AND WELCOME
TO THE 700 CLUB TODAY.

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I'M SO VERY,
VERY HAPPY THAT
YOU COULD JOIN US

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FOR THIS PROGRAM
OF PRAYER AND PRAISE.

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RuPaul: THE INSTANT
SUCCESS OF THE 700 CLUB
AND THE JIM AND TAMMY SHOW,

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HELPED TURN THE CHRISTIAN
BROADCAST NETWORK

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FROM A LOCAL STATION
INTO A FULL-FLEDGED NETWORK.

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BUT THINGS BEGAN TO SOUR.

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Tammy: PAT BEGAN TO WANT
TO TAKE OVER SOME OF
THE 700 CLUB,

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WHICH WAS FINE,
BECAUSE IT WAS HIS STATION
AND WE HONORED HIM FOR THAT.

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AND SO, WE JUST SAID, "PAT,

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"YOU'RE ABLE TO DO IT
BY YOURSELF NOW.
YOU DON'T NEED US."

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AND SO WE DECIDED TO MOVE ON
AND DO OUR OWN THING.

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THE 700 CLUB TODAY
IS PROBABLY

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THE MOST POWERFUL
OF THE RELIGIOUS
BROADCASTS.

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Announcer: THIS IS...

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Reverend White:
AND JIM WAS THE FIRST
HOST ON THE 700 CLUB,

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BEFORE
PAT ROBERTSON WAS.

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RuPaul: TAMMY WROTE
TO PAT ROBERTSON

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ASKING HIM TO BE INTERVIEWED
FOR THIS DOCUMENTARY.

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HE DECLINED.

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JIM AND TAMMY THEN MOVED
WEST TO CALIFORNIA,

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AND IN THE KITCHEN
OF THEIR RENTED HOME

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WITH THEIR FRIENDS
JAN AND PAUL CROUCH,

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THEY LAUNCHED
A NEW VENTURE:

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THE TRINITY BROADCAST
NETWORK.

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Tammy: JIM WAS THE HOST,
AND I WAS THE CO-HOST,

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AND JAN AND PAUL WERE
IN THE BACKGROUND.

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RuPaul: BUT NOT FOR LONG.

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JIM AND TAMMY
WERE FORCED OUT

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IN A BOARD-ROOM COUP
BY JAN AND PAUL CROUCH.

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Announcer: THIS IS THE TRINITY
BROADCASTING NETWORK,

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CELEBRATING OUR
25th ANNIVERSARY.

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RuPaul: TODAY,
THE CROUCHS STILL PRESIDE

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OVER THE MINISTRY JIM
AND TAMMY STARTED WITH THEM,

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WHICH HAS SINCE
BECOME ONE OF THE WORLD'S
LARGEST TV MINISTRIES.

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JIM AND TAMMY STARTED
ALMOST EVERYTHING

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THAT IS NOW POWERFUL IN
RELIGIOUS TELECASTING.

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BUT AS SOON AS
THEY GOT IT BUILT,
LIKE AT TBN,

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AS SOON AS THEY GOT
PEOPLE WATCHING,

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AS SOON AS THEY GOT
THE AUDIENCE CAPTIVATED,

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AS SOON AS THEY BEGAN
TO GET POWER,

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THEY WERE,
KIND OF, LET GO.

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RuPaul: TAMMY WROTE
TO THE CROUCHS

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ASKING THEM
TO BE INTERVIEWED
FOR THIS DOCUMENTARY.

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THEY DECLINED.

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Choir: ♪ GLORIA ♪

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RuPaul: IN 1974,

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JIM AND TAMMY
MOVED TO CHARLOTTE,
NORTH CAROLINA.

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Announcer: STAND BY.
5 SECONDS TO PTL.

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RuPaul: THERE, THEY LAUNCHED
A THIRD TELEVISION NETWORK

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CALLED P.T.L...

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PRAISE THE LORD.

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[APPLAUSE]
Choir: ♪ PRAISE THE LORD ♪

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♪ NOW'S THE TIME
TO LIFT OUR VOICES ♪

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THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME

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THAT THEY WERE
COMPLETELY IN CHARGE

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AND FREE TO CREATE
THEIR OWN NETWORK
IN THEIR OWN IMAGE.

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♪ WELL, I FOUND
A NEW JOY ♪

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COME ON, JIM!

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Tammy: WE BELIEVED THAT
CHRISTIANITY SHOULD BE FUN.

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WE BELIEVED
IT SHOULD BE JOYFUL.

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AND I THINK WE WERE
ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE

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TO PUT FUN AND LAUGHTER
IN CHRISTIANITY.

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IT'S NOT A DRAG
TO BE SAVED.

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IT'S NOT A BORING THING.
THAT'S RELIGION.

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YOU SEE, YOU'VE
GOTTEN IT MIXED UP.

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RELIGION IS BORING
AND DULL...

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MOST OF THE TIME,

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BUT JESUS IS LIFE.

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♪ ...GLORIOUS,
WONDERFUL DAY ♪

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♪ YES, IT'S A MARVELOUS,
GLORIOUS, WONDERFUL DAY ♪

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♪ TO SERVE THE LORD ♪

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♪ HALLELUJAH ♪

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PRAISE THE LORD.

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HALLELUJAH.
WHOO!

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RuPaul: JIM AND TAMMY'S
GOSPEL OF FUN WAS FOR
ONE AND ALL.

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Tammy: WE WERE
INTER-DENOMINATIONAL,

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FOR EVERYONE
OF EVERY DENOMINATION.

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THE LUTHERANS,
THE BAPTISTS, CATHOLICS,

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ALL DENOMINATIONS WERE
A PART OF PTL.

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AND REMEMBER,
GOD LOVES YOU.

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HE REALLY DOES.

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GOD LOVES YOU.

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HE LOVES YOU.

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GOD LOVES YOU!
HE REALLY DOES!

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GOD LOVES YOU.

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HE REALLY DOES.
BYE-BYE FOR TODAY.

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RuPaul:
PTL EMBRACED THOSE

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THAT OTHER CHRISTIAN
FUNDAMENTALISTS

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AND TELEVANGELISTS
REJECTED.

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STEVE IS A PATIENT
OF AIDS,

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AND HE SO GENEROUSLY
ALLOWED US TO TALK
TO HIM TODAY.

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WAS IT JUST
A WORD TO YOU?

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IS IT SOMETHING
THAT JUST HAPPENS

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TO OTHER PEOPLE
AND NOT TO STEVE?

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I KNEW THAT IT WAS
A GROWING PROBLEM
IN THE GAY COMMUNITY,

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BUT I, AS MANY OTHER PEOPLE
DID BACK IN 1981 AND '82,

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DENIED THAT
IT COULD TOUCH ME.

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I MEAN,
WE DIDN'T SEE HOW--

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I MEAN,
WHY WOULD IT HURT ME?

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I WAS A GOOD
CHRISTIAN PASTOR.

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DO YOU KNOW HOW
EARLY THAT WAS

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FOR ANYBODY IN
THE CHRISTIAN WORLD

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TO BE REACHING OUT
AND TO BE EMBRACING
A GAY PERSON,

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LET ALONE
A PERSON WITH AIDS?

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TAMMY BAKKER DID IT

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WHEN NO ONE ELSE
WOULD DO IT.

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HOW SAD THAT
WE AS CHRISTIANS,

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WHO ARE TO BE
THE SALT OF THE EARTH,

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AND WE ARE--WE,
WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
ABLE TO LOVE EVERYONE,

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ARE AFRAID SO BADLY
OF AN AIDS PATIENT

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THAT WE WILL NOT
GO UP AND PUT OUR
ARM AROUND THEM

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AND TELL THEM
THAT WE CARE?

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RuPaul: WHETHER
IT WAS AIDS, DRUG ABUSE,
OR MARRIAGE COUNSELING,

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PTL, AND IN PARTICULAR
TAMMY,

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RUSHED IN WHERE OTHER
CHRISTIAN BROADCASTERS
FEARED TO TREAD.

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THE PENILE IMPLANT
OF THE INFLATABLE TYPE,

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AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT
WE'RE LOOKING AT--

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IT'S THE NEWEST ONE, RIGHT?
THIS IS THE NEWEST ONE
OUT THERE.

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WHEN HE WANTS
TO BECOME ERECT,
HE REACHES DOWN,

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HE SQUEEZES THAT
SEVERAL TIMES,

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AND THE MAN
BECOMES FIRM.

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I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC.

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NOW GO AHEAD, AUDIENCE,
GO AHEAD.

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I'VE BEEN IN HOLLYWOOD,
AND IN NEW YORK,

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AND I'D SEEN
THE NETWORKS PRODUCE,

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BUT THERE WERE
NO PRODUCERS LIKE TAMMY.

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♪ OH, WELL, NOW ♪

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♪ WHO'S THAT BOUNCING AROUND
LIKE A PING-PONG BALL? ♪

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♪ WHO'S THAT,
BIGGER THAN LIFE ♪

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♪ EVEN THOUGH
SHE'S SMALL... ♪

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Reverend White:
THE FIRST DAY I SAW HER,

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I WATCHED HER DO
3 DIFFERENT SHOWS,

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HOUR-LONG SHOWS
IN A ROW,

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WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER,

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WITHOUT NOTES,

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JUST KEEPING IT GOING.

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♪ IT'S TAMMY ♪

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♪ A DOUBLE-WHAMMY ♪

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♪ OF TURNED-ON
CHRISTIAN LOVE ♪

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RuPaul: WHEN NOT
IN FRONT OF A CAMERA,

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TAMMY WAS BEHIND
A MICROPHONE

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RECORDING OVER 40 ALBUMS.

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Announcer:
TAMMY FAYE...

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WARM...

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GENTLE...

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RADIANT...

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BLESSED.

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A GLOWING EXAMPLE.

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FOR YOUR COPY OF HER
MOST RECENT ALBUM,

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SEND $25 TODAY
TO JIM BAKKER...

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RuPaul: AND IN BETWEEN
RECORDING ALBUMS,

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SHE RAISED A FAMILY...
ALSO ON TELEVISION.

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I WANT YOU TO MEET MY BOY--

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JAMIE CHARLES BAKKER.

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[APPLAUSE]
Tammy: WE IDENTIFIED WITH
THE AMERICAN FAMILY,

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AND THEY IDENTIFIED
WITH US.

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I PRACTICALLY HAD BOTH
MY CHILDREN ON TV.

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BEFORE I WAS BORN,
I WAS ON TELEVISION.

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IN MY MOTHER'S STOMACH,

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I WAS ON TELEVISION.

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SO MY WHOLE LIFE HAS
BEEN IN FRONT OF PEOPLE.

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[APPLAUSE]

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Jamie: SO MANY PEOPLE NOW,
EVEN TO THIS DAY,

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COME UP,
AND THEY'RE LIKE,

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"I REMEMBER YOU FROM WHEN
YOU WERE A LITTLE KID.

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I GREW UP WITH YOU.
I FEEL LIKE I'M A PART OF YOU."

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AND IT'S BECAUSE
THEY GREW UP IN OUR HOUSE,

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I MEAN, IN OUR LIVES.

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MY LANDS!

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Jamie Bakker: IT WAS
VERY NORMAL TO HAVE CAMERAS

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AROUND THE HOUSE
DURING CHRISTMAS.

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THIS WAS LIFE TO ME.

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Tammy: WE WERE PART
OF THEIR FAMILIES.

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WE LOVED THEM, AND THEY
LOVED US AS FAMILY PEOPLE.

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AND I THINK THAT'S WHY
IT WAS SO POWERFUL.

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RuPaul: THE PRAISE THE LORD
NETWORK TOOK OFF.

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FROM THIS MOMENT ON,

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THE PTL
TELEVISION NETWORK
PLANS TO BROADCAST...

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24 HOURS A DAY...

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UNTIL THE SECOND
COMING OF JESUS CHRIST.

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♪ JESUS KEEPS ON TAKING ME
HIGHER AND HIGHER ♪

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♪ HIGHER AND HIGHER ♪

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♪ HIGHER AND HIGHER ♪

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♪ JESUS KEEPS... ♪

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WE KEPT ADDING STATION
AFTER STATION AFTER STATION,

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AND IT WAS AN AWESOME
THING THAT HAPPENED.

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Jim: ALL OVER THE WORLD,
WE WERE DOING TELEVISION.

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WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST
4 SATELLITE NETWORKS
IN THE WORLD.

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Announcer:
YOU'RE WATCHING...

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THAT'S WHY LATER ON,

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THE PLUM THAT SO MANY
PEOPLE WANTED

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WAS THAT SATELLITE.

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RuPaul: BUT JIM WASN'T
SATISFIED WITH JUST
A TELEVISION NETWORK.

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Tammy:
JIM FELT THAT IF THE PEOPLE
WERE THERE ON THE GROUNDS

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AND COULD COME AND STAY
WHERE PTL WAS AND SEE,

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AND GET IN ON THE VISION...

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THAT'S WHAT HE WANTED.

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HE WANTED ALL THE PEOPLE
TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY BE THERE.

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RuPaul:
TO REALIZE THIS VISION,

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JIM BAKKER CONTACTED HIS
CHURCH BUILDER ROE MESSNER.

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Roe: I GOT ON A PLANE
AND WENT DOWN
TO CHARLOTTE,

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MET WITH JIM,

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AND HE LAID OUT THIS
GRANDIOSE PLAN

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THAT HE HAD FOR
2,500 ACRES

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AND WANTED TO KNOW
IF I WOULD, UH,

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DESIGN HIS BUILDINGS
AND BE HIS CONTRACTOR.

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RuPaul:
WHAT JIM ENVISIONED

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WAS NOTHING LESS THAN
A CHRISTIAN DISNEYLAND,

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A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR
RESORT

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THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY
INCLUDE A 500-ROOM HOTEL,

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A STATE-OF-THE-ART
BROADCAST FACILITY,

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AND A WATER PARK.

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♪ PRAISE THE LORD ♪

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♪ EVERYBODY
LIFT OUR VOICES... ♪

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00:21:08,968 --> 00:21:12,267
WELL, PART OF THE EXCITEMENT
OF HERITAGE U.S.A., I BELIEVE,

429
00:21:12,300 --> 00:21:13,968
WAS PEOPLE WATCHING
THE BUILDINGS GOING UP.

430
00:21:14,067 --> 00:21:18,400
AND I DON'T THINK MAYBE
I UNDERSTOOD THAT AS WELL
AS I WISH I WOULD HAVE.

431
00:21:18,434 --> 00:21:21,734
I GOT TO WHERE
I COULDN'T STAND TO HEAR
THE NAME ROE MESSNER.

432
00:21:21,767 --> 00:21:23,047
BECAUSE I--FOR ONE THING,

433
00:21:23,067 --> 00:21:27,267
I KNEW THAT BUILDINGS MEANT
RAISING LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY.

434
00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:29,934
RuPaul: JIM BAKKER
REACHED OUT TO HIS FOLLOWERS

435
00:21:29,968 --> 00:21:31,067
TO PAY FOR HIS DREAM CITY

436
00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:33,567
WITH AN ENDLESS ROUND
OF TELETHONS.

437
00:21:33,601 --> 00:21:40,601
♪ PRAISE THE LORD ♪

438
00:21:41,567 --> 00:21:43,167
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH...

439
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,167
RuPaul: BUT ENOUGH
WAS NEVER ENOUGH.

440
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,734
AND I KNOW SOME
OF YOU HAVE GOTTEN
BUSY SIGNALS,

441
00:21:47,767 --> 00:21:50,300
SO START DIALING
RIGHT NOW, AND YOU
CAN GET THROUGH.

442
00:21:50,334 --> 00:21:52,400
RENEW YOUR PLEDGE,
MAKE YOUR PLEDGE.

443
00:21:52,434 --> 00:21:54,801
WE APOLOGIZE FOR
THE BUSY SIGNALS.

444
00:21:54,834 --> 00:21:56,300
NOW PARTNERS
ARE SAYING, "JIM,

445
00:21:56,334 --> 00:21:58,100
WE WANT JIM AND TAMMY
IN OUR HOMES."

446
00:21:58,133 --> 00:22:03,200
Tammy: I BEGAN
TO FEEL LIKE PTL
HAD GROWN SO FAR PAST ME,

447
00:22:03,234 --> 00:22:06,734
AND I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE
I WAS EVEN SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH

448
00:22:06,767 --> 00:22:09,047
TO BE IN SUCH
A HIGH POSITION.

449
00:22:09,067 --> 00:22:11,133
WE BEGAN TO LEAD
SEPARATE LIVES.

450
00:22:11,167 --> 00:22:14,834
JIM WAS SO BUSY RAISING MONEY
TO BUILD BUILDINGS,

451
00:22:14,868 --> 00:22:17,047
AND HE FORGOT HIS FAMILY.

452
00:22:17,067 --> 00:22:18,634
AND, UM...

453
00:22:18,667 --> 00:22:23,067
WE WERE LEFT
IN THE DUST SOMEWHERE.

454
00:22:28,067 --> 00:22:31,734
♪ THIS IS YOUR HERITAGE ♪

455
00:22:31,767 --> 00:22:33,400
♪ HERITAGE U.S.A. ♪

456
00:22:33,434 --> 00:22:34,868
RuPaul:
BY THE MID-EIGHTIES,

457
00:22:34,901 --> 00:22:36,167
HERITAGE PARK
WAS ON ITS WAY

458
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,234
TO BECOMING THE THIRD MOST
POPULAR RESORT DESTINATION
IN THE U.S.,

459
00:22:40,267 --> 00:22:44,047
BUT THE PRICE OF PTL's
SUCCESS KEPT CLIMBING.

460
00:22:44,067 --> 00:22:48,334
TODAY, WE ARE
AROUND $2 MILLION
IN PAST-DUE BILLS

461
00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:51,501
THAT MUST BE PAID
IF WE'RE GOING TO SAVE
THE ENTIRE NETWORK.

462
00:22:51,534 --> 00:22:53,834
SOON, I FIND MYSELF
WITH A BUDGET

463
00:22:53,868 --> 00:22:56,434
OF A MILLION DOLLARS
EVERY 2 DAYS.

464
00:22:56,467 --> 00:22:59,667
AND THE TAIL BEGAN
TO WAG THE DOG.

465
00:22:59,701 --> 00:23:02,467
YOU KNOW, REALLY,
IF EVERYONE WOULD DOUBLE
THEIR PLEDGE ONE MONTH...

466
00:23:02,501 --> 00:23:06,501
IF EVERY PERSON THAT
WATCHED THIS TELECAST
COULD GIVE $10 A MONTH...

467
00:23:06,534 --> 00:23:09,234
IF YOU HAVEN'T PLEDGED
THAT $15 A MONTH...

468
00:23:09,267 --> 00:23:11,667
CALL RIGHT NOW.
I WANT TO SEND YOU...

469
00:23:11,701 --> 00:23:14,968
THIS BEAUTIFUL LITTLE
RICE-PADDY BABY

470
00:23:15,067 --> 00:23:16,734
FOR YOUR GIFT OF $100.

471
00:23:16,767 --> 00:23:18,934
RuPaul: PTL's
CRISIS RIDDEN FINANCES

472
00:23:18,968 --> 00:23:22,934
ATTRACTED THE ATTENTION
OF A YOUNG REPORTER
AT THE LOCAL PAPER,

473
00:23:22,968 --> 00:23:24,534
THE CHARLOTTE OBSERVER.

474
00:23:24,567 --> 00:23:27,434
I HAD BEEN REPORTING ON PTL
FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

475
00:23:27,467 --> 00:23:30,167
AND THERE WAS A HISTORY
OF MISMANAGEMENT,

476
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,734
AND OF QUESTIONABLE
SPENDING OF MONEY.

477
00:23:31,767 --> 00:23:35,047
TAMMY AND I
ARE UNDERGOING
THE MOST VICIOUS ATTACKS

478
00:23:35,067 --> 00:23:37,834
IN THE HISTORY
OF THIS MINISTRY.

479
00:23:37,868 --> 00:23:39,300
BY NOW, PERHAPS,
YOU THINK

480
00:23:39,334 --> 00:23:41,567
THAT WE SHOULD BE
USED TO THESE ATTACKS.

481
00:23:41,601 --> 00:23:43,968
BUT IT'S BEEN GOING ON
FOR A LONG TIME, TAMMY.

482
00:23:44,067 --> 00:23:46,047
YES, JIM.
IT'S BEEN GOING ON
FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS.

483
00:23:46,067 --> 00:23:48,133
USA TODAY CARRIED
THIS BLURB:

484
00:23:48,167 --> 00:23:49,400
"PTL PRESIDENT JIM BAKKER

485
00:23:49,434 --> 00:23:51,267
USED DONATIONS
TO HIS TELEVISION MINISTRY

486
00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:53,334
TO BUY PERSONAL ITEMS,
LIKE A MINK COAT,

487
00:23:53,367 --> 00:23:54,801
A SPORTS CAR,
AND A HOUSE BOAT,

488
00:23:54,834 --> 00:23:57,267
THE CHARLOTTE OBSERVER
REPORTED SUNDAY."

489
00:23:57,300 --> 00:24:00,133
I HAVE ALL
THE CANCELLED CHECKS.

490
00:24:00,167 --> 00:24:01,133
I'LL HAVE TO PICK 'EM
ALL BACK UP AGAIN.

491
00:24:01,167 --> 00:24:05,567
I THINK THE FACT IS BAKKER
LATCHED ONTO AN IDEA

492
00:24:05,601 --> 00:24:09,067
THAT WAS GONNA HELP
PROPEL HIS MINISTRY FORWARD,

493
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:11,767
AND IT THEN BECAME
A VERY CONVENIENT WAY

494
00:24:11,801 --> 00:24:13,601
TO DO A LOT
OF OTHER THINGS,

495
00:24:13,634 --> 00:24:15,067
AND HE MADE
SOME STATEMENTS

496
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:17,067
ABOUT WHAT HE WAS
GONNA DO WITH THIS MONEY,

497
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:18,434
THAT HE THEN
DID NOT FOLLOW.

498
00:24:18,467 --> 00:24:20,467
Announcer: HERE ARE
JIM AND TAMMY BAKKER!

499
00:24:20,501 --> 00:24:23,167
RuPaul: DESPITE THE ATTACKS,
THE BAKKERS CONTINUED TO SHINE

500
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,200
AS CHRISTIAN TELEVISION'S
BRIGHTEST STARS.

501
00:24:26,234 --> 00:24:27,200
BY SPECIAL REQUEST,

502
00:24:27,234 --> 00:24:30,567
HERE'S TAMMY FAYE
TO SING WE'RE BLESSED!

503
00:24:30,601 --> 00:24:33,834
♪ WE'RE BLESSED,
WE'RE BLESSED,
WE'RE BLESSED ♪

504
00:24:33,868 --> 00:24:35,400
♪ WE ARE BLESSED ♪

505
00:24:35,434 --> 00:24:38,267
♪ OH, WE GIVE SHELTER,
CLOTHING, AND STRENGTH ♪

506
00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:40,167
♪ WE ARE BLESSED ♪

507
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,767
♪ WE'RE BLESSED,
WE'RE BLESSED,
WE'RE BLESSED ♪

508
00:24:42,801 --> 00:24:47,267
OFF SCREEN, THEIR MARRIAGE
WAS FALLING APART.

509
00:24:47,300 --> 00:24:49,047
JIM HAD A SECRET.

510
00:24:49,067 --> 00:24:53,067
JIM BAKKER,
MEET JESSICA HAHN.

511
00:24:56,067 --> 00:24:58,901
Charles: IN 1980, ONE OF HIS
RELIGIOUS ASSOCIATES

512
00:24:58,934 --> 00:25:01,467
HAD ARRANGED
AN ENCOUNTER IN A HOTEL ROOM

513
00:25:01,501 --> 00:25:02,567
WITH A WOMAN
NAMED JESSICA HAHN,

514
00:25:02,601 --> 00:25:04,167
A YOUNG WOMAN,
I THINK, IN HER EARLY 20s.

515
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,767
AND THAT LED TO
A SEXUAL ENCOUNTER
OF SOME KIND OR ANOTHER.

516
00:25:08,801 --> 00:25:13,100
THERE'S A DISPUTE
OVER WHAT EXACTLY
HAPPENED IN THAT ROOM.

517
00:25:14,901 --> 00:25:17,767
THAT DAY ALL MY DREAMS
WERE SHATTERED

518
00:25:17,801 --> 00:25:21,834
AND MY LIFE WOULD NEVER
BE THE SAME.

519
00:25:31,267 --> 00:25:34,167
Charles: IN EARLY 1985...

520
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,601
PTL AGREED TO SETTLE

521
00:25:36,634 --> 00:25:39,300
A THREATENED LAWSUIT
BY JESSICA HAHN

522
00:25:39,334 --> 00:25:40,501
BY PAYING HER
A SUM OF MONEY.

523
00:25:40,534 --> 00:25:43,868
RuPaul: ONCE AGAIN,
THE PTL NETWORK
TURNED TO ROE MESSNER,

524
00:25:43,901 --> 00:25:46,834
APPARENTLY WITHOUT
JIM'S KNOWLEDGE.

525
00:25:46,868 --> 00:25:50,400
Roe: THEY CAME TO ME AND
SAID WE GOT A PROBLEM.

526
00:25:50,434 --> 00:25:53,767
WE'VE MADE AN AGREEMENT
WITH THIS LADY

527
00:25:53,801 --> 00:25:58,534
THAT IF WE
PAY HER $265,000,

528
00:25:58,567 --> 00:26:00,501
SHE'LL GO AWAY.

529
00:26:00,534 --> 00:26:04,400
AND I SAID THAT'S
NOT THE WAY TO DO THAT.

530
00:26:04,434 --> 00:26:05,701
I SAID YOU
SHOULDN'T DO THAT.

531
00:26:05,734 --> 00:26:07,767
I SAID, "I'LL LOAN
YOU THE MONEY,

532
00:26:07,801 --> 00:26:09,167
BUT," I SAYS,
"IT'S A LOAN.

533
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,667
I WANT THE MONEY
PAID BACK."

534
00:26:10,701 --> 00:26:13,634
RuPaul: UNAWARE
OF JIM'S SECRET,

535
00:26:13,667 --> 00:26:16,734
TAMMY FAYE WAS STRUGGLING
WITH HER OWN.

536
00:26:16,767 --> 00:26:18,667
JOIN THE PTL CLUB,

537
00:26:18,701 --> 00:26:21,968
AND TAMMY WANTS TO
SEND YOU A COPY OF HER BOOK

538
00:26:22,067 --> 00:26:24,834
HOW TO OVERCOME FEAR.

539
00:26:24,868 --> 00:26:26,634
Tammy: I BECAME
VERY NERVOUS,

540
00:26:26,667 --> 00:26:27,634
SO I WENT
TO THE DOCTOR

541
00:26:27,667 --> 00:26:28,767
WITH A
HYPERVENTILATION
PROBLEM,

542
00:26:28,801 --> 00:26:33,667
AND THEY KNEW
IT WAS A CASE OF
NERVOUS FRUSTRATION.

543
00:26:33,701 --> 00:26:37,567
AND SO THEY
GAVE ME A LITTLE
PILL CALLED ADAVAN.

544
00:26:37,601 --> 00:26:39,868
AND ADAVAN...

545
00:26:39,901 --> 00:26:43,067
WAS A WONDERFUL DRUG
FOR ME AT THE TIME.

546
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:44,834
I DIDN'T TAKE
MY MEDICINE TODAY

547
00:26:44,868 --> 00:26:46,100
BECAUSE I WANTED
TO BE BRIGHT.

548
00:26:46,133 --> 00:26:47,968
YESTERDAY,
I ALMOST FELL OFF
MY HIGH HEELS.

549
00:26:48,067 --> 00:26:51,100
I WAS ON MEDICINE,
TAKING MY MEDICINE,
SO I'M NOT SAYING--

550
00:26:51,133 --> 00:26:54,601
THIS WAS HER WAY OF
DEALING WITH THE STRESS

551
00:26:54,634 --> 00:26:58,234
THAT SHE WAS UNDER
IN THE RELATIONSHIP.

552
00:26:58,267 --> 00:27:00,234
AND SHE WOULD
LITERALLY LOSE TRACK

553
00:27:00,267 --> 00:27:03,047
OF THE NUMBER OF ADAVAN
THAT SHE WOULD TAKE.

554
00:27:03,067 --> 00:27:06,167
TAMMY, I THINK YOU OUGHT
TO SING A SONG FOR US.

555
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,968
I'M BACK HERE LOOKING
AT THE BOAT, JIM.

556
00:27:08,067 --> 00:27:09,367
ISN'T THIS
A MAGNIFICENT THING?

557
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,367
YES.

558
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,934
RIGHT HERE
ON OUR BEACH.

559
00:27:11,968 --> 00:27:13,801
IT LOOKS BRAND NEW.
I BET--

560
00:27:13,834 --> 00:27:16,334
I'M GONNA TAKE
MY SHOES OFF AND
WADE IN THE WATER.

561
00:27:16,367 --> 00:27:19,767
I DON'T THINK THAT
BOAT'S EVER SEEN WATER.

562
00:27:19,801 --> 00:27:20,934
[GIGGLING]

563
00:27:20,968 --> 00:27:22,047
I FINALLY GOT
TO THE POINT

564
00:27:22,067 --> 00:27:25,534
WHERE I HAD
TO HAVE ADAVAN
WITH ME AT ALL TIMES.

565
00:27:25,567 --> 00:27:28,601
RuPaul:
THEN TAMMY OVERDOSED.

566
00:27:28,634 --> 00:27:30,047
Tammy: WE HAD JUST
BROKEN GROUND

567
00:27:30,067 --> 00:27:32,567
FOR ONE OF THE BUILDINGS
THAT WE WERE GETTING
READY TO BUILD.

568
00:27:32,601 --> 00:27:35,667
IT WAS GOING TO BE
A FOOTBALL FIELD LONG.

569
00:27:35,701 --> 00:27:37,100
AND WE HAD
BROKEN GROUND.

570
00:27:37,133 --> 00:27:39,067
THE DAY WAS
VERY, VERY COLD,

571
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:41,534
AND NONE OF US HAD
WORN PROPER CLOTHING.

572
00:27:41,567 --> 00:27:45,367
AND I GOT PNEUMONIA
AS A RESULT OF THAT.

573
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,434
THEY SAID THAT I HAD
ENOUGH ADAVAN IN ME

574
00:27:48,467 --> 00:27:51,047
THAT WOULD'VE KILLED
A HUGE TRUCK DRIVER.

575
00:27:51,067 --> 00:27:53,767
RuPaul: TAMMY WAS RUSHED
ON A FRIEND'S PRIVATE JET

576
00:27:53,801 --> 00:27:58,267
TO EISENHOWER MEDICAL CENTER
IN PALM SPRINGS, CALIFORNIA.

577
00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:01,968
ON THE AIRPLANE I WENT
INTO HALLUCINATIONS.

578
00:28:03,534 --> 00:28:04,701
IT-IT'S PLEASANT.

579
00:28:04,734 --> 00:28:07,567
IT IS PLEASANT
WHEN YOU'RE IN A
DRUG-INDUCED STATE OF MIND.

580
00:28:07,601 --> 00:28:11,634
I MEAN, YOU CAN SIT
AND WATCH WONDERFUL THINGS,

581
00:28:11,667 --> 00:28:14,100
AND I SAW CARTOONS.

582
00:28:14,133 --> 00:28:15,234
BUT THEN
THERE ARE TIMES

583
00:28:15,267 --> 00:28:18,334
WHEN YOU SEE REALLY
HORRIBLE THINGS, TOO.

584
00:28:19,434 --> 00:28:22,300
I SAW THESE MEN WITH
THESE BLACK CAPES ON.

585
00:28:22,334 --> 00:28:24,901
I SAW THEM COMING
AT ME IN DROVES.

586
00:28:24,934 --> 00:28:26,334
RuPaul: ONCE ON THE PLANE,

587
00:28:26,367 --> 00:28:31,334
TAMMY TRIED TO DISEMBARK
AT 30,000 FEET.

588
00:28:34,534 --> 00:28:36,067
Tammy: THEY TOOK ME
FROM THE HOSPITAL

589
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:38,334
DIRECTLY TO
THE BETTY FORD CENTER.

590
00:28:38,367 --> 00:28:40,868
I THOUGHT I WAS BEING
PUNISHED FOR SOMETHING,

591
00:28:40,901 --> 00:28:45,267
AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT
I WAS BEING PUNISHED FOR.

592
00:29:03,067 --> 00:29:05,868
IT STILL HURTS ME...

593
00:29:05,901 --> 00:29:10,834
THAT THEY DID NOT
TELL ME THEY WERE
GONNA DO THAT TO ME.

594
00:29:10,868 --> 00:29:14,968
SHE SPENT ONE NIGHT
THERE AND THEN LEFT.

595
00:29:15,067 --> 00:29:17,300
ALL I NEEDED
WAS TO BE EDUCATED,

596
00:29:17,334 --> 00:29:20,167
BECAUSE I'M
AN INTELLIGENT PERSON,
AND THAT'S ALL I NEEDED.

597
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,400
ONCE I WAS EDUCATED
AND REALIZED WHAT I WAS DOING,

598
00:29:23,434 --> 00:29:26,734
I STOPPED IT
AND I HAVE NEVER, EVER

599
00:29:26,767 --> 00:29:31,234
HAVE HAD TO--HAVE--HAVE,
UH...BEEN ADDICTED
TO ANYTHING AGAIN.

600
00:29:33,267 --> 00:29:35,047
JUST DIET COKE.

601
00:29:35,067 --> 00:29:37,701
BUT THE PRESIDENT
LIKES IT, TOO,

602
00:29:37,734 --> 00:29:40,667
SO I'M
IN GOOD COMPANY.

603
00:29:43,868 --> 00:29:45,434
[BLEEP]

604
00:29:46,133 --> 00:29:47,868
Both: HEE HEE HEE HEE.

605
00:29:47,901 --> 00:29:49,467
I WENT AWAY
FOR A WHILE,

606
00:29:49,501 --> 00:29:54,267
AND I HAVE LEARNED
THE BEST LESSON
IN MY WHOLE LIFE.

607
00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:57,567
I LEARNED HOW MUCH
I LOVED MY HUSBAND,

608
00:29:57,601 --> 00:29:59,801
HOW MUCH I CARED
FOR MY HUSBAND.

609
00:29:59,834 --> 00:30:02,367
AND I LEARNED
A LESSON OF LONELINESS

610
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,567
SUCH AS I'VE NEVER
FELT IN MY LIFE.

611
00:30:04,601 --> 00:30:06,334
WHEN I HAD TO
GO OUT ALL OF A SUDDEN

612
00:30:06,367 --> 00:30:08,667
AND GO BY MYSELF
AND DO MY WASHING

613
00:30:08,701 --> 00:30:10,601
TO A PLACE WHERE
I DIDN'T EVEN--

614
00:30:10,634 --> 00:30:11,601
WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH,

615
00:30:11,634 --> 00:30:14,000
WHEN I HAD TO CARRY OUT MY
OWN GARBAGE,

616
00:30:14,033 --> 00:30:16,567
WHEN I HAD TO DO
ALL THE THINGS

617
00:30:16,601 --> 00:30:18,467
THAT I DID WITH
SOMEONE I LOVED BEFORE,

618
00:30:18,501 --> 00:30:20,567
WHEN I HAD TO
DO IT ALL BY MYSELF,

619
00:30:20,601 --> 00:30:22,100
ALL OF A SUDDEN,
I REALIZED

620
00:30:22,133 --> 00:30:26,501
THAT THERE WAS
A LOT MORE TO MARRIAGE
THAN JUST THE SPARKLES.

621
00:30:26,534 --> 00:30:31,100
RuPaul: JIM AND TAMMY
DECIDED TO STAY IN THEIR
HOME IN PALM SPRINGS

622
00:30:31,133 --> 00:30:32,968
AND PUT THEIR MARRIAGE
BACK TOGETHER,

623
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,701
BUT THINGS
TURNED OUT DIFFERENTLY.

624
00:30:37,667 --> 00:30:39,634
THE THING I REMEMBER
MOST ABOUT THIS HOUSE,

625
00:30:39,667 --> 00:30:41,868
I BELIEVE,
IS THE WIND.

626
00:30:41,901 --> 00:30:44,601
WE USED TO GO UP
ON TOP OF THE ROOF
OF THE GARAGE

627
00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:48,701
AND LISTEN TO
THE WIND BLOWING THROUGH
THE PALM TREES AT NIGHT.

628
00:30:48,734 --> 00:30:53,400
AND THE MOON WOULD BE OUT.
IT WOULD BE SO BEAUTIFUL
HERE IN THE DESERT.

629
00:30:53,434 --> 00:30:55,934
THIS IS THE HOUSE
WHERE OUR WHOLE LIVES

630
00:30:55,968 --> 00:30:58,267
CAME TUMBLING DOWN ON US.

631
00:30:59,734 --> 00:31:02,200
I WAS STILL VERY WEAK
AND VERY SICK

632
00:31:02,234 --> 00:31:05,234
WHEN I FINISHED
THE BETTY FORD PROGRAM.

633
00:31:05,267 --> 00:31:07,200
AND JIM WAS
REALLY BURNED OUT,

634
00:31:07,234 --> 00:31:08,901
HAVING TO RAISE
$1 MILLION A WEEK

635
00:31:08,934 --> 00:31:11,901
TO KEEP PTL ON THE AIR,
AND TO KEEP ALL
THE BILLS PAID.

636
00:31:11,934 --> 00:31:14,701
Jim: IT WAS BEGINNING
TO CRUSH ME.

637
00:31:14,734 --> 00:31:16,601
AT THE END OF THE DAY,

638
00:31:16,634 --> 00:31:19,868
I WOULD LITERALLY
HAVE TO THINK TO WALK.

639
00:31:19,901 --> 00:31:22,868
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
CAN UNDERSTAND THAT,
BUT I'D HAVE TO--

640
00:31:22,901 --> 00:31:26,300
I WAS SO EXHAUSTED,
I'D HAVE TO, YOU KNOW--

641
00:31:26,334 --> 00:31:28,300
USUALLY YOUR BODY WILL
JUST WALK BY ITSELF,

642
00:31:28,334 --> 00:31:32,267
BUT I'M HAVING
TO PICK UP MY FEET
ON PURPOSE TO WALK.

643
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:37,467
AND SO JERRY FALWELL
KNEW JUST WHEN TO HIT.

644
00:31:38,367 --> 00:31:42,334
RuPaul: ALTHOUGH JIM AND
TAMMY WERE THE MOST POPULAR
EVANGELISTS OF THEIR TIME,

645
00:31:42,367 --> 00:31:46,667
SOUTHERN BAPTIST MINISTER
JERRY FALWELL WAS
THE MOST POWERFUL.

646
00:31:46,701 --> 00:31:49,133
HE WAS THE FOUNDER
OF THE MORAL MAJORITY

647
00:31:49,167 --> 00:31:52,300
AND PLAYED A KEY ROLE
IN REAGAN'S ELECTION.

648
00:31:52,334 --> 00:31:54,534
HE PREACHED A RETURN
TO FAMILY VALUES

649
00:31:54,567 --> 00:32:00,234
AND SINGLED OUT
THE PRO-ABORTION AND
GAY MOVEMENTS FOR ATTACK.

650
00:32:00,434 --> 00:32:04,934
FALWELL'S EMPIRE
INCLUDED A SUCCESSFUL
TELEVISION MINISTRY

651
00:32:04,968 --> 00:32:06,367
AND A UNIVERSITY,

652
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,334
BUT IT DID NOT
INCLUDE A SATELLITE.

653
00:32:10,901 --> 00:32:13,200
HE CALLS JIM UP
AND HE SAYS,

654
00:32:13,234 --> 00:32:17,300
"JIM, I HAVE FOUND
SOMETHING OUT THAT
I AM GOING TO--

655
00:32:17,334 --> 00:32:20,901
"THAT IS GOING TO BE
LEAKED TO THE NEWSPAPERS

656
00:32:20,934 --> 00:32:24,300
"IF YOU DON'T
ALLOW ME TO HELP YOU."

657
00:32:24,334 --> 00:32:26,167
HE SAYS, "LET ME FLY OUT
TO CALIFORNIA,

658
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,901
AND I WANT TO HELP YOU
AND TAMMY THROUGH THIS."

659
00:32:28,934 --> 00:32:32,701
AND THEN HE BROUGHT UP
THE NAME JESSICA HAHN.

660
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,047
THIS IS WHERE
I HEARD JIM TELL ME

661
00:32:39,067 --> 00:32:41,968
THAT HE HAD HAD
A ONE-NIGHT STAND

662
00:32:42,067 --> 00:32:44,701
WITH A YOUNG LADY
BY THE NAME OF JESSICA HAHN.

663
00:32:44,734 --> 00:32:47,534
EVEN THOUGH IT HAD
HAPPENED 9 YEARS BEFORE,

664
00:32:47,567 --> 00:32:51,601
TO ME, IT WAS LIKE
IT HAD HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

665
00:32:51,634 --> 00:32:54,667
I LAID ON THE FLOOR
AND I CRIED FOR 3 DAYS.

666
00:32:54,701 --> 00:32:58,167
I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT
HAD HAPPENED TO MY LIFE.

667
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,367
AND I DIDN'T KNOW
HOW TO SOLVE IT.

668
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,167
RuPaul: TAMMY WROTE
TO JESSICA HAHN,

669
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,400
ASKING TO MEET WITH HER.
SHE DECLINED.

670
00:33:09,434 --> 00:33:12,300
SHE DID, HOWEVER,
TELL HER SIDE OF THE STORY

671
00:33:12,334 --> 00:33:15,467
IN A 1993 PLAYBOY VIDEO.

672
00:33:15,501 --> 00:33:17,200
I WOULD REALLY
LIKE PEOPLE TO KNOW

673
00:33:17,234 --> 00:33:20,834
THERE ARE SIDES
OF MY PERSONALITY
THAT NO ONE HAS SEEN.

674
00:33:20,868 --> 00:33:25,501
I WOULD JUST LIKE PEOPLE
TO KNOW THE REAL ME.

675
00:33:32,801 --> 00:33:34,834
Tammy: JERRY FALWELL
FLEW HIS PRIVATE JET OUT.

676
00:33:34,868 --> 00:33:37,467
HE SAID--HE PUT
HIS ARMS AROUND ME--
"I WANT TO HELP YOU."

677
00:33:37,501 --> 00:33:41,334
AND WITH THAT, HE SAID,
"IF YOU WILL GIVE PTL
TO ME FOR 6 WEEKS,"

678
00:33:41,367 --> 00:33:45,701
HE SAID, "WHILE
THIS STORY BREAKS,
WHICH IS BOUND TO BREAK,"

679
00:33:45,734 --> 00:33:48,834
HE SAID,
"WE WILL BE THE CATALYST,

680
00:33:48,868 --> 00:33:52,047
"AND IN 6 WEEKS,
YOU WILL HAVE
YOUR MINISTRY BACK,

681
00:33:52,067 --> 00:33:53,934
AND IT WILL BE LIKE
NOTHING EVER HAPPENED."

682
00:33:53,968 --> 00:33:58,067
AN ATTACK ON
ONE DENOMINATION
IS AN ATTACK ON ALL.

683
00:33:58,100 --> 00:34:00,601
WE MUST SHARE
THE BREAD OF ADVERSITY

684
00:34:00,634 --> 00:34:01,601
AND THE WATER
OF AFFLICTION.

685
00:34:01,634 --> 00:34:03,801
JIM SWALLOWED IT
HOOK, LINE, AND SINKER.

686
00:34:03,834 --> 00:34:08,934
BUT I KNEW THERE WAS
SOMETHING WRONG SOMEWHERE,

687
00:34:08,968 --> 00:34:11,234
AND I BEGGED HIM--
I BEGGED HIM

688
00:34:11,267 --> 00:34:14,200
NOT TO GIVE UP HIS PLACE
ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

689
00:34:14,234 --> 00:34:17,701
I TOLD HIM,
"GO BACK AND TALK TO
THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

690
00:34:17,734 --> 00:34:19,567
"GO BACK AND
TALK TO YOUR PEOPLE

691
00:34:19,601 --> 00:34:21,734
BEFORE YOU DO
SOMETHING LIKE THIS."

692
00:34:21,767 --> 00:34:23,133
AND JIM SAID, "NO.

693
00:34:23,167 --> 00:34:24,133
"DADDY FALWELL'S HERE.

694
00:34:24,167 --> 00:34:27,534
HE'LL TAKE CARE
OF EVERYTHING."

695
00:34:32,767 --> 00:34:36,300
BY EARLY 1987,
I HAD COLLECTED
THE INFORMATION

696
00:34:36,334 --> 00:34:41,734
I NEEDED TO PUBLISH
A STORY ABOUT JESSICA HAHN
AND ABOUT THAT PAYOFF.

697
00:34:42,434 --> 00:34:44,367
ON MARCH 19, 1987,

698
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,047
IN AN INTERVIEW
WITH US ABOUT THE STORY,

699
00:34:47,067 --> 00:34:50,767
INSTEAD OF AN INTERVIEW,
WE HEARD A RESIGNATION
SPEECH OVER THE TELEPHONE.

700
00:34:50,801 --> 00:34:54,367
JIM WAS IN CALIFORNIA.
HE READ THIS RESIGNATION.

701
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,567
HE GOT OFF THE PHONE
AND IMMEDIATELY

702
00:34:56,601 --> 00:34:58,267
A MAN NAMED
JERRY FALWELL COMES ON,

703
00:34:58,300 --> 00:35:00,534
WHICH IS A SHOCK TO ALL
OF US AT THE NEWSPAPER.

704
00:35:00,567 --> 00:35:05,834
AND FALWELL HAS
BEEN GIVEN BY JIM
THE MANTLE OF RUNNING PTL.

705
00:35:05,868 --> 00:35:07,901
HOW CAN WE SAY THANK YOU
FOR YOU GENTLEMEN

706
00:35:07,934 --> 00:35:12,200
WHO HAVE STOOD
BY JIM AND TAMMY'S SIDE,
AND ALL OF OUR SIDE?

707
00:35:12,234 --> 00:35:14,067
IF OUR ARMS
WERE BIG ENOUGH,

708
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:16,667
WE'D JUST WRAP THEM
ALL AROUND ALL OF YOU.

709
00:35:16,701 --> 00:35:17,734
WE REALLY WOULD.

710
00:35:17,767 --> 00:35:18,801
Charles: THAT STORY
EXPLODED.

711
00:35:18,834 --> 00:35:22,200
IT WAS THE STORY
FOR NEWSPAPERS

712
00:35:22,234 --> 00:35:25,133
AND TELEVISION
AROUND THE COUNTRY.

713
00:35:27,534 --> 00:35:29,100
ARE YOU PLANNING
ON COMING BACK?

714
00:35:29,133 --> 00:35:30,400
I REMEMBER
GOING TO PTL

715
00:35:30,434 --> 00:35:31,801
AND GOING INTO
THIS NEWS CONFERENCE

716
00:35:31,834 --> 00:35:33,901
THAT FALWELL HELD
AT THE HOTEL,

717
00:35:33,934 --> 00:35:36,634
AND I HAVE TO SAY,
FEELING SOME BLUSH OF PRIDE

718
00:35:36,667 --> 00:35:40,734
AT WHAT MY GOOD REPORTING
HAD CREATED HERE.

719
00:35:40,767 --> 00:35:42,234
Tammy: O.J. SIMPSON
WAS NOTHING

720
00:35:42,267 --> 00:35:44,434
COMPARED TO WHAT
WE HAD AROUND US.

721
00:35:44,467 --> 00:35:45,634
IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE.

722
00:35:45,667 --> 00:35:47,467
WE JUST WANTED
TO SAY HELLO,

723
00:35:47,501 --> 00:35:48,767
AND THANK ALL
YOU CAMERAMEN

724
00:35:48,801 --> 00:35:50,200
AND ALL YOU
PRESS PEOPLE.

725
00:35:50,234 --> 00:35:52,200
I HATE IT
YOU HAD TO STAND OUT

726
00:35:52,234 --> 00:35:53,968
IN THIS HOT SUN
IN THIS DESERT.

727
00:35:54,067 --> 00:35:57,400
THEY WERE 4,
5 DEEP FOR THE WHOLE BLOCK,

728
00:35:57,434 --> 00:35:58,667
DOWN ALL AROUND OUR HOUSE.

729
00:35:58,701 --> 00:36:02,047
THERE WAS NO PLACE
FOR US TO HIDE AT ALL.

730
00:36:02,067 --> 00:36:05,067
REMEMBER, I WAS
11 YEARS OLD WHEN
THIS WAS HAPPENING,

731
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:07,567
BUT I COULD TELL
SOMETHING WAS GOING WRONG.

732
00:36:07,601 --> 00:36:11,734
SHARE WITH US.
HOW'S JAMIE CHARLES
AND TAMMY SUE DOING?

733
00:36:11,767 --> 00:36:12,734
WE'RE CONCERNED.

734
00:36:12,767 --> 00:36:15,133
I WISH YOU'D
STARTED SOMEWHERE ELSE.

735
00:36:15,167 --> 00:36:16,734
[CRYING]

736
00:36:17,167 --> 00:36:19,634
ONE OF THE LAST THING
JAMIE CHARLES SAID IS,

737
00:36:19,667 --> 00:36:23,167
"WILL I GET A CHANCE
TO GO HOME AND GET MY TOYS?"

738
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,968
Man: AW, BLESS HIM.

739
00:36:25,601 --> 00:36:26,934
AND SUSIE'S DOING WELL.

740
00:36:26,968 --> 00:36:30,067
I RAN AWAY
FROM HOME.

741
00:36:31,868 --> 00:36:33,567
WHAT WOULD
ANY TEENAGER DO?

742
00:36:33,601 --> 00:36:35,834
RUN AWAY.
THAT'S THE ANSWER.

743
00:36:35,868 --> 00:36:38,868
YOU KNOW.
AND THAT'S WHAT I DID.

744
00:36:39,901 --> 00:36:41,834
RuPaul: ON JUNE 11, 1987,

745
00:36:41,868 --> 00:36:43,067
JIM AND TAMMY
WENT ON THE AIR

746
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:47,467
TO ADDRESS THE PTL AUDIENCE
FOR WHAT WOULD BE
THE LAST TIME.

747
00:36:47,501 --> 00:36:49,334
TAMMY AND I ARE
SO VERY GLAD

748
00:36:49,367 --> 00:36:51,934
THAT WE'VE
BEEN GRANTED
THIS OPPORTUNITY

749
00:36:51,968 --> 00:36:55,047
TO TALK
WITH YOU TODAY.

750
00:36:55,067 --> 00:36:57,047
AND SAY HELLO.

751
00:36:57,067 --> 00:37:00,133
YES. HELLO, EVERYONE.

752
00:37:00,167 --> 00:37:03,133
AND WE WANT
TO SAY TO YOU

753
00:37:03,167 --> 00:37:06,667
THAT WE ARE SO
VERY, VERY SORRY.

754
00:37:06,701 --> 00:37:08,901
I BELIEVE, TAMMY,

755
00:37:08,934 --> 00:37:11,267
'CAUSE THE GOD I
SERVE IS STILL GOD,

756
00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:14,334
I BELIEVE THE SUN
WILL SHINE AGAIN.

757
00:37:14,367 --> 00:37:15,334
OH, I DO, TOO, JIM.

758
00:37:15,367 --> 00:37:16,334
YOU WANT TO SING IT?

759
00:37:16,367 --> 00:37:17,400
I'LL DO IT.
CAN YOU DO IT?

760
00:37:17,434 --> 00:37:19,734
ALL RIGHT,
TAMMY FAYE IS GONNA
SING A SONG FOR YOU

761
00:37:19,767 --> 00:37:23,400
JUST BEFORE
WE LEAVE OUR HOUSE.

762
00:37:23,701 --> 00:37:26,367
MAYBE YOU'RE HURTING
AND YOU NEED THIS
SONG TODAY, TOO,

763
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,234
SO, I'LL SING IT
FOR BOTH OF US, OK?

764
00:37:29,267 --> 00:37:36,167
♪ OH, THE SUN
WILL SHINE AGAIN ♪

765
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:42,534
♪ THE SUN
WILL SHINE AGAIN ♪

766
00:37:42,567 --> 00:37:49,167
♪ OH, THE SUN
WILL SHINE AGAIN ♪

767
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,167
WE CAME IN HERE FIRST

768
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,767
BECAUSE WE FELT
JIM BAKKER WANTED US HERE.

769
00:37:52,801 --> 00:37:56,601
♪ A NEW DAY
WILL BREAK ♪

770
00:37:56,634 --> 00:37:59,133
WE NOW FEEL
A HIGHER CALLING.

771
00:37:59,167 --> 00:38:01,534
WE FEEL THAT GOD
WANTS US HERE,

772
00:38:01,567 --> 00:38:02,801
AT LEAST FOR
THE TIME BEING.

773
00:38:02,834 --> 00:38:07,133
JERRY FALWELL CAME IN
TO RESCUE THE NETWORK,

774
00:38:07,167 --> 00:38:10,467
BUT, IN FACT, TOOK IT.

775
00:38:10,501 --> 00:38:13,601
RESCUE, TAKE,
THEY'RE OPPOSITES.

776
00:38:13,634 --> 00:38:16,434
I FEEL LIKE GOD HAS
FORGIVEN ME OF SO MUCH,

777
00:38:16,467 --> 00:38:21,067
THAT I WILL
FORGIVE EVERYONE
WHO HAS HURT US.

778
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:22,667
AND SO WE JUST
WANT EVERYONE

779
00:38:22,701 --> 00:38:24,234
TO BEGIN TO
LOVE ONE ANOTHER,

780
00:38:24,267 --> 00:38:26,868
AND THAT THE CHURCH WORLD
WILL LOVE ONE ANOTHER,

781
00:38:26,901 --> 00:38:29,334
THAT THE PEOPLE OF GOD
WILL NOT FIGHT.

782
00:38:29,367 --> 00:38:32,367
OH, I BELIEVE YOUR
MIDNIGHT'S ALMOST OVER.

783
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,467
AND THANK GOD,
THE SUN IS GOING
TO SHINE AGAIN.

784
00:38:37,501 --> 00:38:38,567
PRAISE THE LORD.

785
00:38:38,601 --> 00:38:39,567
[APPLAUSE]

786
00:38:39,601 --> 00:38:42,601
Man: HALLELUJAH!
PRAISE THE LORD!

787
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:50,634
Roe: JERRY FALWELL
CALLED ME UP,

788
00:38:50,667 --> 00:38:52,901
AND HE SAID, "ROE,
I WANT YOU TO GO OUT

789
00:38:52,934 --> 00:38:55,234
AND SEE
JIM AND TAMMY FOR ME."

790
00:38:55,267 --> 00:38:56,667
HE SAID, "I WANT YOU
TO GO OUT THERE

791
00:38:56,701 --> 00:38:58,067
"AND TELL THEM
I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM

792
00:38:58,100 --> 00:38:59,567
"300,000 SALARY
THIS YEAR.

793
00:38:59,601 --> 00:39:02,634
"I'M GOING TO TAKE CARE OF
THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE,

794
00:39:02,667 --> 00:39:04,634
"PAY THE PHONE BILL,

795
00:39:04,667 --> 00:39:07,601
"I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM
ONE SECURITY GUARD,

796
00:39:07,634 --> 00:39:08,901
A MAID," HE SAID,

797
00:39:08,934 --> 00:39:11,434
AND YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE
THEM WRITE IT DOWN
ON A PIECE OF PAPER."

798
00:39:11,467 --> 00:39:15,047
ROE, THINKING
THAT FALWELL WAS
AN HONORABLE MAN,

799
00:39:15,067 --> 00:39:18,334
CAME OUT TO OUR
HOUSE AND TOLD US THIS.

800
00:39:18,367 --> 00:39:21,734
AND SO HE SAID,
"TAMMY, YOU NEED TO
JUST GET A PIECE OF PAPER

801
00:39:21,767 --> 00:39:23,767
"AND YOU NEED TO WRITE
DOWN THE LIST OF BENEFITS

802
00:39:23,801 --> 00:39:26,968
"THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
VOTED FOR YOU TO HAVE,

803
00:39:27,067 --> 00:39:30,968
AND MR. FALWELL WANTS
TO CONTINUE THOSE FOR A YEAR."

804
00:39:31,067 --> 00:39:32,868
AND I GAVE JERRY,

805
00:39:32,901 --> 00:39:35,968
I GAVE HIM THIS--
THIS THING

806
00:39:36,067 --> 00:39:39,167
WITH TAMMY'S
PINK STATIONARY.

807
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:44,901
HE GOES TO THE CAMERA
RIGHT THEN.

808
00:39:47,067 --> 00:39:49,200
WE WERE IN OUR HOME
AND CNN WAS ON,

809
00:39:49,234 --> 00:39:53,467
AND, OF COURSE,
WE WERE WATCHING IT.

810
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:58,801
JIM AND TAMMY GAVE ME
THIS LIST OF THINGS
THEY'D LIKE TO RECEIVE.

811
00:39:58,834 --> 00:40:01,968
JIM'S SALARY,
FOR A LIFETIME,

812
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,067
AT $300,000 PER YEAR.

813
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:06,400
TAMMY'S SALARY,
FOR A LIFETIME,
$100,000.

814
00:40:06,434 --> 00:40:08,167
SECRETARY FOR ONE YEAR...
PHONE BILL..2 CARS...

815
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,267
HOUSE ON THE LAKE...
SECURITY...

816
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:12,400
AND THE FURNITURE.
THEY WANT A MAID.

817
00:40:13,133 --> 00:40:16,300
I DON'T SEE
ANY REPENTANCE THERE.

818
00:40:16,334 --> 00:40:19,267
I SEE THE GREED.

819
00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:21,767
I SEE
THE SELF-CENTEREDNESS.

820
00:40:21,801 --> 00:40:26,334
I SEE THE AVARICE
THAT BROUGHT THEM DOWN.

821
00:40:26,367 --> 00:40:28,100
AND FROM
THAT DAY ON,

822
00:40:28,133 --> 00:40:33,100
HE STARTED--
HE STARTED HIS
ATTACK ON JIM.

823
00:40:33,133 --> 00:40:35,000
THE HOMOSEXUALITY STUFF,

824
00:40:35,033 --> 00:40:37,501
THE DARK HOLE WHERE
ALL THE MONEY'S GONE,

825
00:40:37,534 --> 00:40:39,968
AND ALL THAT BALONEY
THAT HE CAME UP WITH.

826
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,167
I HAVE SAT ACROSS
THE TABLE FROM MEN

827
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,400
WHO HAVE TOLD ME OF THEIR--
OF YOUR HOMOSEXUAL ADVANCES.

828
00:40:46,434 --> 00:40:52,467
AND SINCE THEN, OF COURSE,
I HAVE LEARNED OF THE
FISCAL IRREGULARITIES.

829
00:40:52,501 --> 00:40:54,000
AND JIM, I MUST TELL YOU

830
00:40:54,033 --> 00:40:56,334
THAT I WOULD BE DOING
A DISSERVICE TO GOD,

831
00:40:56,367 --> 00:40:58,400
AS MUCH AS I LOVE
YOU AND CARE FOR YOU,

832
00:40:58,434 --> 00:40:59,534
AND WILL PRAY FOR YOU,

833
00:40:59,567 --> 00:41:02,133
I WOULD BE DOING
A DISSERVICE TO GOD

834
00:41:02,167 --> 00:41:04,567
AND TO THE CHURCH AT LARGE

835
00:41:04,601 --> 00:41:08,734
TO ALLOW YOU TO COME BACK
HERE NOW OR EVER.

836
00:41:11,267 --> 00:41:15,601
JIM, A LOOK
OF PURE HORROR,

837
00:41:15,634 --> 00:41:19,047
PURE TORTURE
PASSED OVER HIS FACE.

838
00:41:19,067 --> 00:41:24,133
AND HE SAID,
"TAM, IT'S ALL OVER.

839
00:41:24,167 --> 00:41:26,567
I'VE BEEN HAD."

840
00:41:26,601 --> 00:41:28,801
Charles: MY SENSE OF
FALWELL AND OF HIS PEOPLE

841
00:41:28,834 --> 00:41:32,501
AND HOW THEY OPERATED WAS
THEY HAD VERY SHARP KNIVES.

842
00:41:32,534 --> 00:41:35,133
AND THE BAKKERS PROBABLY
WERE A LITTLE NAIVE.

843
00:41:35,167 --> 00:41:39,400
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY
HAD EVER RUN INTO ANYONE
WHO WAS QUITE SO CUNNING.

844
00:41:39,434 --> 00:41:42,634
THEY WERE MANIPULATIVE,
AND SCHEMING,

845
00:41:42,667 --> 00:41:43,634
BUT HE WAS CUNNING,

846
00:41:43,667 --> 00:41:48,367
AND I THINK CUNNING
TRUMPED SCHEMING THERE.

847
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,501
RuPaul: LESS THAN 3 MONTHS
AFTER FALWELL TOOK OVER,

848
00:41:51,534 --> 00:41:53,467
PTL FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY.

849
00:41:53,501 --> 00:41:55,701
THOUSANDS OF
PTL PARTNERS, DONORS,

850
00:41:55,734 --> 00:41:59,534
AND CREDITORS
LOST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

851
00:42:03,267 --> 00:42:07,234
Roe: THEY SOLD IT
FOR 25 CENTS
ON THE DOLLAR,

852
00:42:07,267 --> 00:42:10,200
AND THERE JUST
WASN'T ANY MONEY
FOR THE CREDITORS.

853
00:42:10,234 --> 00:42:12,300
I THINK MR. FALWELL

854
00:42:12,334 --> 00:42:15,334
WANTED TO
DESTROY PTL,
IS WHAT I THINK.

855
00:42:15,367 --> 00:42:20,100
I WOULD LOVE TO SIT
AND LOOK JERRY FALWELL
IN THE EYES

856
00:42:20,133 --> 00:42:21,701
AND SAY, "JERRY,
WHY DON'T YOU JUST

857
00:42:21,734 --> 00:42:26,367
GET IT RIGHT WITH GOD
AND SAY YOU'RE SORRY?"

858
00:42:26,934 --> 00:42:28,400
HE DOESN'T HAVE TO
MAKE IT RIGHT WITH ME,

859
00:42:28,434 --> 00:42:31,801
BECAUSE I'M NOT IN CHARGE
OF WHETHER JERRY FALWELL'S
GOING TO HEAVEN OR HELL.

860
00:42:31,834 --> 00:42:33,334
THAT'S NOT--I'M NOT
IN CHARGE OF THAT.

861
00:42:33,367 --> 00:42:37,334
BUT I SAY HE HAD BETTER
MAKE IT RIGHT WITH GOD.

862
00:42:41,701 --> 00:42:44,901
I WOULD GIVE ANYTHING
TO FACE JERRY,

863
00:42:44,934 --> 00:42:46,767
BUT HE WON'T FACE ME.
I KNOW HE WON'T.

864
00:42:46,801 --> 00:42:49,934
RuPaul: FALWELL NEVER
REPLIED TO TAMMY'S LETTER.

865
00:42:49,968 --> 00:42:51,234
HE HAS, HOWEVER,
GONE ON RECORD

866
00:42:51,267 --> 00:42:55,901
CALLING TAMMY A LOONY
WHOSE ELEVATOR NEVER
WENT TO THE TOP FLOOR.

867
00:42:55,934 --> 00:43:01,047
FALWELL ALSO NEVER RESPONDED
TO THE PRODUCER'S REQUEST

868
00:43:01,067 --> 00:43:02,367
FOR AN INTERVIEW.

869
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,434
ELSEWHERE, HOWEVER,

870
00:43:03,467 --> 00:43:06,501
HE HAS DENIED THAT THE LIST
ON TAMMY'S LETTERHEAD

871
00:43:06,534 --> 00:43:08,701
WAS CREATED
AT HIS SUGGESTION.

872
00:43:08,734 --> 00:43:11,334
HE ALSO MAINTAINS
THAT BAKKER ASKED HIM

873
00:43:11,367 --> 00:43:12,901
TO TAKE OVER THE PTL MINISTRY

874
00:43:12,934 --> 00:43:16,901
AND WAS NEVER PROMISED
HE COULD RETURN.

875
00:43:21,901 --> 00:43:25,534
RuPaul: IN 1989, JIM BAKKER
WENT ON TRIAL FOR FRAUD.

876
00:43:25,567 --> 00:43:26,868
Reporter:
THE GOVERNMENT SAID BAKKER

877
00:43:26,901 --> 00:43:30,067
DELIBERATELY SOLD
MORE THAN TWICE AS MANY
PARTNERSHIPS FOR LODGING

878
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:31,801
AS THERE
WERE ACCOMMODATIONS,

879
00:43:31,834 --> 00:43:33,534
AND POCKETED
NEARLY $4 MILLION

880
00:43:33,567 --> 00:43:36,234
TO KEEP HIM IN
EXPENSIVE HOMES AND CARS.

881
00:43:36,267 --> 00:43:37,467
James Albert: THIS
WAS A FEDERAL TRIAL.

882
00:43:37,501 --> 00:43:39,567
THERE WERE
NO CAMERAS ALLOWED
IN THE COURTROOM.

883
00:43:39,601 --> 00:43:40,934
WE HAD TO RELY ON
THOSE PRINT JOURNALISTS,

884
00:43:40,968 --> 00:43:44,334
AND PARTICULARLY
THE CHARLOTTE OBSERVER
REPORTERS.

885
00:43:44,367 --> 00:43:46,667
THEN, OF COURSE,
REMEMBER, THE
CHARLOTTE OBSERVER

886
00:43:46,701 --> 00:43:50,968
WON THE PULITZER PRIZE
FOR PUBLIC SERVICE
FOR TOPPLING JIM BAKKER

887
00:43:51,067 --> 00:43:53,434
AND EXPOSING HIM
ONE FULL YEAR

888
00:43:53,467 --> 00:43:57,701
BEFORE THIS JURY
EVER GOT A CHANCE
TO CONSIDER

889
00:43:57,734 --> 00:43:58,868
ANY OF THIS EVIDENCE.

890
00:43:58,901 --> 00:44:03,300
RuPaul: JAMES ALBERT
SPENT 5 YEARS STUDYING
THE PTL TRIAL,

891
00:44:03,334 --> 00:44:05,400
AND WROTE A BOOK
THAT RAISED QUESTIONS

892
00:44:05,434 --> 00:44:07,167
ABOUT HOW THE TRIAL
MIGHT HAVE BEEN

893
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,634
A MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE.

894
00:44:09,667 --> 00:44:13,701
WHEN THE DEFENSE
PLAYED A PTL VIDEO

895
00:44:13,734 --> 00:44:15,601
FOR THE JURY TO SEE,

896
00:44:15,634 --> 00:44:20,067
JUDGE POTTER ACTUALLY
STUCK HIS INDEX FINGERS
IN HIS EARS

897
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:21,067
AND TURNED AWAY.

898
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:23,200
HE HAS SAID IN
THE COURT MANY TIMES,

899
00:44:23,234 --> 00:44:25,501
"I MAY NOT BE
RULING THIS CORRECTLY,

900
00:44:25,534 --> 00:44:28,267
BUT YOU CAN TAKE IT UP
ON YOUR APPEAL."

901
00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:31,133
AND I FEEL THAT
ANY JUDGE WHO THINKS

902
00:44:31,167 --> 00:44:32,367
THAT WE'RE GONNA
HAVE TO APPEAL

903
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,968
HAS ALREADY
MADE UP HIS MIND
THAT WE'RE GUILTY.

904
00:44:35,067 --> 00:44:38,133
THE JUDGE REFUSED
TO ALLOW THE JURORS

905
00:44:38,167 --> 00:44:42,467
TO BOARD A BUS AND TRAVEL
15 MINUTES TO HERITAGE U.S.A.,

906
00:44:42,501 --> 00:44:44,501
TO SEE WHAT
JIM BAKKER HAD BUILT

907
00:44:44,534 --> 00:44:46,767
WITH ALL THE MONEY
THAT HE RAISED.

908
00:44:46,801 --> 00:44:50,234
IT WAS A TRIAL
NOT ABOUT FRAUD

909
00:44:50,267 --> 00:44:51,367
OR CRIMINAL CONDUCT.

910
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,868
IT WAS A TRIAL
ABOUT LIFESTYLE AND WEALTH.

911
00:44:54,901 --> 00:44:56,067
Reporter: PTL's
NEW MANAGEMENT

912
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:58,634
ACT CONTINUALLY AMAZED
AT THE OPULENCE

913
00:44:58,667 --> 00:45:00,701
UNDER WHICH JIM
AND TAMMY BAKKER LIVED.

914
00:45:00,734 --> 00:45:03,300
IN FACT, A TRIP THROUGH
THE PRESIDENTIAL SUITE

915
00:45:03,334 --> 00:45:04,634
AT THE HERITAGE
GRAND HOTEL

916
00:45:04,667 --> 00:45:09,701
SHOWS THE BAKKERS LIVED,
ONE COULD EASILY DEDUCE,
QUITE LUXURIOUSLY.

917
00:45:09,734 --> 00:45:10,968
THEY LIVED WELL,

918
00:45:11,067 --> 00:45:13,634
BUT THEY LIVED
NO BETTER THAN
PAT ROBERTSON,

919
00:45:13,667 --> 00:45:15,467
NO BETTER THAN
JERRY FALWELL,

920
00:45:15,501 --> 00:45:16,734
NO BETTER THAN
JIM DOBSON,

921
00:45:16,767 --> 00:45:18,334
'CAUSE I'VE BEEN
IN THEIR HOMES, TOO.

922
00:45:18,367 --> 00:45:21,834
BUT LOOK,
I THINK THE FACT IS

923
00:45:21,868 --> 00:45:23,367
THE BAKKERS HAD BEEN,

924
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,047
FROM PRETTY MUCH
EVERYBODY'S POINT OF VIEW,

925
00:45:26,067 --> 00:45:27,047
PRETTY GREEDY.

926
00:45:27,067 --> 00:45:29,701
IT'S LUDICROUS TO ARGUE

927
00:45:29,734 --> 00:45:33,334
THAT JIM BAKKER
RAISED $158 MILLION

928
00:45:33,367 --> 00:45:35,434
FROM HIS
TELEVISION VIEWERS

929
00:45:35,467 --> 00:45:40,400
TO KEEP $3 MILLION
FOR HIMSELF.

930
00:45:44,067 --> 00:45:45,200
RuPaul: AFTER A 6-WEEK TRIAL,

931
00:45:45,234 --> 00:45:49,801
JIM BAKKER WAS SENTENCED TO
45 YEARS IN FEDERAL PRISON.

932
00:45:49,834 --> 00:45:51,767
I CAN'T IMAGINE HIM
BEING TAKEN INTO CUSTODY,

933
00:45:51,801 --> 00:45:53,968
BUT THAT'S VERY MUCH
IN THE JUDGE'S DISCRETION,

934
00:45:54,067 --> 00:45:57,467
AND THE JUDGE
HAS PROVEN HIMSELF
HARD TO PREDICT.

935
00:45:57,934 --> 00:46:04,334
WITH TODAY'S VERDICT,
REALITY HAS FINALLY
DAWNED FOR JIM BAKKER.

936
00:46:06,334 --> 00:46:11,167
TODAY WAS CERTAINLY AN EXAMPLE
OF GOD'S AMAZING GRACE.

937
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:15,100
THEY DID HIM LIKE
THEY DONE JESUS,

938
00:46:15,133 --> 00:46:18,934
WITH LEADING HIM
LIKE HE'S A BIG
DRUG PUSHER,

939
00:46:18,968 --> 00:46:19,934
A BIG ROBBER
OR SOMETHING.

940
00:46:19,968 --> 00:46:21,067
THEY HAD
HANDCUFFS ON HIM,

941
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:25,067
LEADING HIM,
AND HE IS
THE MAN OF GOD.

942
00:46:27,434 --> 00:46:28,834
I HAVE A SONG FOR YOU.

943
00:46:28,868 --> 00:46:35,467
♪ ON CHRIST,
THE SOLID ROCK, I STAND ♪

944
00:46:35,501 --> 00:46:41,534
♪ ALL OTHER GROUND
IS SINKING SAND ♪

945
00:46:41,567 --> 00:46:48,567
♪ ALL OTHER GROUND
IS SINKING SAND ♪

946
00:46:49,167 --> 00:46:51,501
IT'S NOT OVER
TILL IT'S OVER.

947
00:46:51,534 --> 00:46:52,601
RuPaul: THIS
IS THE LAST TIME

948
00:46:52,634 --> 00:46:55,501
TAMMY FAYE WOULD SING
IN PUBLIC FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

949
00:46:55,534 --> 00:46:59,901
MEANWHILE CHARLES SHEPARD
WROTE A BOOK CALLED FORGIVEN,

950
00:47:00,067 --> 00:47:02,047
A SEARING ACCOUNT
OF THE SCANDAL.

951
00:47:02,067 --> 00:47:03,047
[TYPING]

952
00:47:03,067 --> 00:47:06,634
SHEPARD WAS ASKED IF HE
WOULD MET WITH TAMMY FAYE.

953
00:47:06,667 --> 00:47:08,367
HE AGREED.

954
00:47:10,234 --> 00:47:11,968
SO 12 YEARS
AFTER THE VERDICT,

955
00:47:12,067 --> 00:47:15,601
TAMMY CONFRONTED CHARLES
FOR THE FIRST TIME.

956
00:47:15,634 --> 00:47:16,901
I WAS THEIR, CHARLIE.

957
00:47:16,934 --> 00:47:18,067
I KNOW HOW IT HAPPENED.

958
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:20,467
I KNOW JIM BAKKER
IS NOT A CROOK.

959
00:47:20,501 --> 00:47:24,067
I KNOW THAT AFTER
25 YEARS IN FRONT OF
THE TELEVISION CAMERAS,

960
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:27,047
WE DID NOT STEAL MONEY
AND YOU AND I--

961
00:47:27,067 --> 00:47:28,667
I WANT TO HEAR YOU SAY,
"YOU STOLE MONEY."

962
00:47:28,701 --> 00:47:32,501
I DON'T FEEL I WROTE THINGS
THAT WERE UNTRUE.
HMM.

963
00:47:32,534 --> 00:47:34,047
CERTAINLY NOT KNOWING
THEY WERE,

964
00:47:34,067 --> 00:47:37,267
AND EVEN NOW, I DON'T KNOW
OF ANYTHING I WROTE
THAT WAS UNTRUE.
MM-HMM.

965
00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:38,701
DID YOU WRITE THAT
MILLIONS WERE MISSING?

966
00:47:38,734 --> 00:47:40,801
I DON'T EVER REMEMBER
WRITING THAT.

967
00:47:40,834 --> 00:47:45,767
YOU SAID--WHAT YOU SAID
WAS A BIG, DEEP HOLE...

968
00:47:45,801 --> 00:47:48,634
MILLIONS MISSING.

969
00:47:48,667 --> 00:47:49,634
W-WHY?

970
00:47:49,667 --> 00:47:51,634
ALL I WANT TO KNOW
IS JUST WHY?

971
00:47:51,667 --> 00:47:53,601
WHICH QUESTION
SHOULD I ANSWER FIRST?

972
00:47:53,634 --> 00:47:54,601
ON ALL OF THEM!

973
00:47:54,634 --> 00:47:56,334
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND,
WHAT DID WE DO?

974
00:47:56,367 --> 00:48:00,334
FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T--
I'M NOT HERE TO SAY--
A JUDGE AND JURY.

975
00:48:00,367 --> 00:48:01,400
BECAUSE, LISTEN.

976
00:48:01,434 --> 00:48:05,567
I COULD TURN AROUND
AND--AND--AND--AND
PUT PTL DOWN

977
00:48:05,601 --> 00:48:08,267
IF I WANT TO,
JUST LIKE THE NEWS DID,

978
00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:10,067
BUT I WAS THERE
AND I LIVED IT

979
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:11,901
AND ONE THING I KNOW
ABOUT JIM BAKKER--

980
00:48:11,934 --> 00:48:12,901
HE WAS AN HONEST MAN.

981
00:48:12,934 --> 00:48:14,868
AND ONE THING I KNOW
ABOUT THE PTL ORGANIZATION,

982
00:48:14,901 --> 00:48:19,047
IT WAS AN HONEST,
TRUTHFUL ORGANIZATION.

983
00:48:19,067 --> 00:48:20,801
RuPaul: TAMMY
WANTED AN APOLOGY.

984
00:48:20,834 --> 00:48:23,968
CHARLES WANTED AN AUTOGRAPH.

985
00:48:24,067 --> 00:48:24,968
OH, YEAH. I--I--I...

986
00:48:25,067 --> 00:48:27,234
I BROUGHT SOME COPIES
OF MY BOOK.

987
00:48:27,267 --> 00:48:28,567
HEY, GREAT.

988
00:48:28,601 --> 00:48:30,133
I WANTED TO GIVE YOU,
BUT I WANTED TO GET YOU
TO AUTOGRAPH SOME...

989
00:48:30,167 --> 00:48:31,901
I WILL.

990
00:48:31,934 --> 00:48:33,047
MY SCHOOL HAS GOT
AN AUCTION

991
00:48:33,067 --> 00:48:35,234
FOR THE GRADUATE WOMEN
IN BUSINESS GROUP.
OH, SURE.

992
00:48:35,267 --> 00:48:36,601
I THOUGHT
IT WOULD BE A KICK

993
00:48:36,634 --> 00:48:37,601
IF I GIVE THEM THAT
TO AUCTION OFF.

994
00:48:37,634 --> 00:48:40,100
OK. ALL RIGHT.

995
00:48:42,334 --> 00:48:44,434
DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE
GOING TO A SIGNING,
DID YOU, TAMMY?

996
00:48:44,467 --> 00:48:45,767
NO, I DIDN'T.

997
00:48:45,801 --> 00:48:47,834
Man: TAMMY, WHAT
DID YOU WRITE?

998
00:48:47,868 --> 00:48:48,834
HA HA HA!

999
00:48:48,868 --> 00:48:52,367
BUT, HEY, CHARLES,
YOU'RE FORGIVEN.

1000
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,501
HA HA HA!

1001
00:48:53,534 --> 00:48:55,834
♪ I'M GOING
TO LOVE MY ENEMIES ♪

1002
00:48:55,868 --> 00:48:59,801
♪ DO GOOD TO THOSE
WHO ARE BAD TO ME ♪

1003
00:48:59,834 --> 00:49:02,067
♪ GOING TO LOVE... ♪

1004
00:49:05,367 --> 00:49:07,701
WELL, IF YOU CAME
TO SEE ME CRY,

1005
00:49:07,734 --> 00:49:09,047
WELL, YOU GOT YOUR WISH.

1006
00:49:09,067 --> 00:49:11,734
Woman: WOULD YOU LIKE
TO MAKE A STATEMENT
IN FRONT OF THE CAMERAS?

1007
00:49:11,767 --> 00:49:13,234
WELL, I WANT TO SAY
I LOVE MY HUSBAND,

1008
00:49:13,267 --> 00:49:15,767
MY FAITH IS STILL
STRONG IN THE LORD.

1009
00:49:15,801 --> 00:49:18,701
I STILL FEEL THERE'S
NOTHING TOO HARD FOR GOD,

1010
00:49:18,734 --> 00:49:21,868
AND I'M STANDING ON CHRIST,
A SOLID ROCK.

1011
00:49:21,901 --> 00:49:23,734
RuPaul: WITH A HUSBAND
IN PRISON,

1012
00:49:23,767 --> 00:49:26,901
A RUNAWAY DAUGHTER,
AND A TROUBLED SON,

1013
00:49:26,934 --> 00:49:30,100
TAMMY STRUGGLED
TO MAKE IT ON HER OWN.

1014
00:49:30,133 --> 00:49:35,133
BUT IN 1992, JIM AND TAMMY'S
DREAM ENDED...IN DIVORCE.

1015
00:49:35,167 --> 00:49:37,701
I WAS TOTALLY ALONE
AND HAD NOTHING, NO ONE.

1016
00:49:37,734 --> 00:49:40,601
EVERYONE HAD TURNED
THEIR BACK AGAINST ME
ONE MORE TIME,

1017
00:49:40,634 --> 00:49:43,801
AND I FELT LIKE
A WOMAN WITHOUT A COUNTRY.

1018
00:49:43,834 --> 00:49:47,434
IT'S SO OFTEN TRUE
THAT CHRISTIANS ARE

1019
00:49:47,467 --> 00:49:50,234
ONE ARMY THAT KILLS
THEIR WOUNDED.

1020
00:49:50,267 --> 00:49:51,234
HA HA. WE DON'T--

1021
00:49:51,267 --> 00:49:53,534
WE DON'T TRY TO NURSE THEM
BACK TO HEALTH.

1022
00:49:53,567 --> 00:49:56,868
AND I DON'T KNOW
OF ANY WOMAN IN OUR TIME

1023
00:49:56,901 --> 00:50:01,033
WHO HAS BEEN SO RIDICULED,
PUT DOWN, MALIGNED.

1024
00:50:01,067 --> 00:50:02,934
REALLY, I EQUATE HER

1025
00:50:02,968 --> 00:50:04,033
WITH HILLARY CLINTON...

1026
00:50:04,067 --> 00:50:09,167
BECAUSE THESE 2 WOMEN
HAVE BOTH SUFFERED
TREMENDOUSLY

1027
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,734
BY THE THINGS THAT
THEIR HUSBANDS MAY HAVE DONE.

1028
00:50:12,767 --> 00:50:14,901
HA. AND YET SHE JUST
KEEPS GOING.

1029
00:50:14,934 --> 00:50:18,167
Choir:
♪ I'LL KEEP CLIMBING ♪

1030
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,033
♪ I'LL KEEP CLIMBING ♪

1031
00:50:21,067 --> 00:50:23,968
♪ UP THE MOUNTAIN ♪

1032
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,467
♪ UP THAT MOUNTAIN ♪

1033
00:50:26,501 --> 00:50:29,067
♪ AND I'LL MAKE IT ♪

1034
00:50:29,100 --> 00:50:32,000
♪ I'M GOING TO MAKE IT ♪

1035
00:50:32,033 --> 00:50:34,200
RuPaul: 18 MONTHS
AFTER HER DIVORCE,

1036
00:50:34,234 --> 00:50:37,367
TAMMY SCANDALIZED
THE CHURCH AND THE MEDIA

1037
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,467
WHEN SHE REMARRIED.

1038
00:50:38,501 --> 00:50:41,901
HER NEW HUSBAND WAS THE MAN
WHO PAID OFF JESSICA HAHN,

1039
00:50:41,934 --> 00:50:43,601
THE MAN WHO BUILT
HERITAGE U.S.A.,

1040
00:50:43,634 --> 00:50:48,501
AND THE MAN WHO JIM BAKKER
CALLED HIS BEST FRIEND...

1041
00:50:48,534 --> 00:50:49,634
ROE MESSNER.

1042
00:50:49,667 --> 00:50:52,868
Roe: EVERYBODY
LIKES TO SAY THAT
WAS PLANNED, YOU KNOW,

1043
00:50:52,901 --> 00:50:55,634
AND THAT ROE AND TAMMY
HAD THIS BIG DEAL GOING

1044
00:50:55,667 --> 00:50:58,868
WHILE HE WAS IN
CHARLOTTE BUILDING PTL.

1045
00:50:58,901 --> 00:51:01,067
NONE OF THAT'S TRUE.

1046
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:02,734
ALL OF A SUDDEN, I...

1047
00:51:02,767 --> 00:51:03,901
LIKED TAMMY, YOU KNOW?

1048
00:51:03,934 --> 00:51:10,334
AND WE STARTED
TALKING TOGETHER
A LITTLE BIT.

1049
00:51:10,367 --> 00:51:11,367
UM...

1050
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,501
AND IT JUST
SORT OF HAPPENED
LIKE THAT, REALLY.

1051
00:51:15,534 --> 00:51:16,501
RuPaul:
DIVORCED AND REMARRIED,

1052
00:51:16,534 --> 00:51:19,367
TAMMY WAS REJECTED
BY CHRISTIAN BROADCASTING,

1053
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,467
SO SHE TURNED
TO SECULAR TELEVISION,

1054
00:51:21,501 --> 00:51:23,400
COURTING EVEN MORE
CONTROVERSY

1055
00:51:23,434 --> 00:51:27,734
BY HOSTING A TALK SHOW
WITH AN OPENLY GAY COHOST.

1056
00:51:27,767 --> 00:51:30,634
Both: ♪ WE'RE NOT
WHAT YOU'D EXPECT ♪

1057
00:51:30,667 --> 00:51:33,067
♪ WE'RE A CRAZY,
KOOKY DUET ♪

1058
00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:36,634
♪ WE'RE A RECIPE
YOU COULDN'T BAKE UP ♪

1059
00:51:36,667 --> 00:51:38,567
♪ 3 TIMES THE LAUGHS ♪

1060
00:51:38,601 --> 00:51:40,868
♪ AND 10 TIMES
THE MAKEUP ♪

1061
00:51:40,901 --> 00:51:43,234
I THINK GAY PEOPLE
LIKE TAMMY BECAUSE

1062
00:51:43,267 --> 00:51:44,234
TAMMY LIKES GAY PEOPLE.

1063
00:51:44,267 --> 00:51:46,734
AND SHE'S ONE
OF THE ONLY CHRISTIANS

1064
00:51:46,767 --> 00:51:49,601
IN THE WORLD
WHO SEEMS TO THESE DAYS.

1065
00:51:49,634 --> 00:51:51,501
Singers: ♪ WAY ♪

1066
00:51:51,534 --> 00:51:54,167
♪ ON JIM J. AND TAMMY FAYE ♪

1067
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,133
OH, HI, EVERYONE!

1068
00:51:56,167 --> 00:51:57,133
THAT'S YOUR MAKE-UP KIT?

1069
00:51:57,167 --> 00:51:58,133
THAT'S MY MAKE-UP.

1070
00:51:58,167 --> 00:52:00,047
CHOCOLATE? OF COURSE,
SHE'S GOT CHOCOLATE,

1071
00:52:00,067 --> 00:52:02,067
POTATO CHIPS, A--
MY BRA?!

1072
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:04,334
WHAT ARE YOU DOING
WITH MY BRA?

1073
00:52:04,367 --> 00:52:07,133
I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT
OF HIM AS--AS--AS GAY.

1074
00:52:07,167 --> 00:52:09,434
I JUST THOUGHT OF HIM
AS ANOTHER HUMAN BEING

1075
00:52:09,467 --> 00:52:10,734
THAT I LOVED.

1076
00:52:10,767 --> 00:52:12,334
IT WAS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

1077
00:52:12,367 --> 00:52:13,334
OH, MY GOD!

1078
00:52:13,367 --> 00:52:15,734
HONEY, HOW ARE YOU?!

1079
00:52:15,767 --> 00:52:17,467
I MISSED YOU SO MUCH.

1080
00:52:17,501 --> 00:52:19,167
I MISSED YOU, TOO!

1081
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,367
Jim J.: SHE HAS BEEN JUDGED
BY OTHER PEOPLE

1082
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,701
AND SHE KNOWS
WHAT THAT'S LIKE.

1083
00:52:23,734 --> 00:52:29,868
SO ALTHOUGH TAMMY'S BELIEFS
ARE NOT IN FAVOR,
I DON'T THINK,

1084
00:52:29,901 --> 00:52:30,868
OF HOMOSEXUALITY,

1085
00:52:30,901 --> 00:52:33,801
SHE ALLOWED ME THE FREEDOM
TO BE WHO I AM

1086
00:52:33,834 --> 00:52:36,667
AND DIDN'T LET THAT
GET IN THE WAY
OF A FRIENDSHIP.

1087
00:52:36,701 --> 00:52:38,667
OH, YOU DECORATE
SO AWESOME.

1088
00:52:38,701 --> 00:52:40,501
AREN'T THESE FABULOUS?
THESE ARE AWESOME.

1089
00:52:40,534 --> 00:52:41,501
I'M GLAD YOU GOT
TO SAVE SOMETHING.

1090
00:52:41,534 --> 00:52:42,801
YOU WANT A DIET COKE?

1091
00:52:42,834 --> 00:52:43,834
HOW DID YOU KNOW?

1092
00:52:43,868 --> 00:52:45,100
RuPaul:
TAMMY HASN'T SEEN JIM J.

1093
00:52:45,133 --> 00:52:46,934
SINCE HE LOST HIS
LOVER TO AIDS

1094
00:52:46,968 --> 00:52:50,434
AND WAS HIMSELF
DIAGNOSED WITH HIV.

1095
00:52:50,467 --> 00:52:52,367
HOW ARE YOU DOING
WITHOUT JOHN?

1096
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,367
ARE YOU DOING OK?

1097
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,200
IT'S BEEN A LONG,
HARD ROAD, YOU KNOW, BUT--

1098
00:52:57,234 --> 00:52:59,501
I KNOW.
IT MUST BE VERY LONELY.

1099
00:52:59,534 --> 00:53:01,501
- I'M COMING AROUND.
- ARE YOU ALL RIGHT?

1100
00:53:01,534 --> 00:53:02,901
- YEAH.
- GOOD.

1101
00:53:02,934 --> 00:53:06,167
I'M A SURVIVOR LIKE YOU.
I LOVED JOHN. YOU KNOW,
I LOVED HIM SO MUCH.

1102
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,801
I DON'T LABEL PEOPLE.

1103
00:53:07,834 --> 00:53:09,701
I REFUSE TO LABEL PEOPLE.

1104
00:53:09,734 --> 00:53:13,868
WE'RE ALL JUST PEOPLE
MADE OUT OF THE SAME OLD DIRT.

1105
00:53:13,901 --> 00:53:17,534
AND GOD DIDN'T MAKE
ANY JUNK.

1106
00:53:17,567 --> 00:53:20,734
RuPaul: BUT IN SPITE OF THEIR
ON-SCREEN CHEMISTRY,

1107
00:53:20,767 --> 00:53:21,801
THE SHOW WAS CANCELED.

1108
00:53:21,834 --> 00:53:25,067
AND BEFORE SHE COULD
RECOVER FROM THIS BLOW,

1109
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:26,567
SHE WAS DEALT ANOTHER.

1110
00:53:26,601 --> 00:53:29,868
Tammy: I HAD BEEN
BLEEDING FOR A YEAR.

1111
00:53:29,901 --> 00:53:31,400
THE BLEEDING BECAME
MUCH WORSE.

1112
00:53:31,434 --> 00:53:35,934
AND SO MY GYNECOLOGIST SAID,
"TAMMY, I THINK YOU NEED
TO GO SEE A PROCTOLOGIST."

1113
00:53:35,968 --> 00:53:39,100
AND BY THAT TIME, OF COURSE,
IT WAS TOO LATE

1114
00:53:39,133 --> 00:53:44,834
AND THE CANCER HAD ALREADY
TAKEN PLACE IN MY BODY.

1115
00:53:44,868 --> 00:53:47,100
BEING WITH HER...

1116
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,567
DURING...

1117
00:53:51,267 --> 00:53:54,868
UM, HER CANCER...

1118
00:53:56,801 --> 00:54:02,467
IN THE HOSPITAL,
SLEEPING ON THE BED
NEXT TO HER,

1119
00:54:02,501 --> 00:54:04,667
IN THE HOSPITAL...

1120
00:54:13,601 --> 00:54:15,634
THAT WAS...

1121
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,400
I THINK THE CLOSEST--
CLOSEST...

1122
00:54:19,767 --> 00:54:23,267
I'VE EVER BEEN
TO MY MOTHER.

1123
00:54:23,300 --> 00:54:26,601
AND I WOULDN'T
TRADE IT FOR ANYTHING.

1124
00:54:26,634 --> 00:54:30,667
AND IT WAS WORTH
EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD
TO GO THROUGH CANCER

1125
00:54:30,701 --> 00:54:33,300
TO GET CLOSE TO MY
PRECIOUS DAUGHTER

1126
00:54:33,334 --> 00:54:38,501
AND TO BECOME HER FRIEND,
NOT JUST HER MOM.

1127
00:54:38,801 --> 00:54:40,767
RuPaul: BOUNCING BACK
ONE MORE TIME,

1128
00:54:40,801 --> 00:54:42,501
TAMMY MADE A DRAMATIC
RECOVERY.

1129
00:54:42,534 --> 00:54:44,934
John J.: THE ONE THING
YOU CAN SAY ABOUT TAMMY IS

1130
00:54:44,968 --> 00:54:45,968
SHE IS A SURVIVOR.

1131
00:54:46,067 --> 00:54:49,334
I MEAN, AFTER THE HOLOCAUST,
THERE WILL BE, LIKE,

1132
00:54:49,367 --> 00:54:53,067
ROACHES, TAMMY FAYE AND CHER.

1133
00:54:53,701 --> 00:54:56,767
RuPaul: INSPIRED
BY HER SUCCESSFUL
BATTLE WITH CANCER,

1134
00:54:56,801 --> 00:54:59,901
TAMMY RECORDED A SELF-HELP
VIDEOTAPE GUIDE

1135
00:54:59,934 --> 00:55:01,934
TO SURVIVING LIFE.

1136
00:55:01,968 --> 00:55:05,501
IF LIFE HANDS YOU A LEMON...

1137
00:55:06,267 --> 00:55:08,234
START MAKING LEMONADE.

1138
00:55:08,267 --> 00:55:11,334
BUT BEFORE THE TAPE
COULD BE RELEASED,

1139
00:55:11,367 --> 00:55:13,534
THE COMPANY WENT BANKRUPT.

1140
00:55:13,567 --> 00:55:17,968
THEN LIFE HANDED TAMMY
YET ANOTHER LEMON.

1141
00:55:19,100 --> 00:55:21,734
IN 1996, HER HUSBAND ROE
WAS SENTENCED

1142
00:55:21,767 --> 00:55:25,047
TO 2 YEARS IN PRISON
FOR BANKRUPTCY FRAUD.

1143
00:55:25,067 --> 00:55:27,167
WE'RE GOING TO A PLACE
CALLED BORON.

1144
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,167
BORON IS ACTUALLY WHERE
THEY USED TO MAKE BORAX.

1145
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,801
IT'S ABOUT 2 HOURS
AND 15 MINUTES FROM MY HOUSE,

1146
00:55:34,834 --> 00:55:37,701
GOING 75, 80 MILES AN HOUR.

1147
00:55:37,734 --> 00:55:39,047
WHOO! HA HA HA!

1148
00:55:39,067 --> 00:55:44,067
I LIKE TO GO FAST ENOUGH
AND SO YOU LOSE YOUR TUMMY
ON THESE BUMPS.

1149
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:47,234
IF I HADN'T MARRIED TAMMY,
I WOULDN'T BE IN JAIL.
THAT'S TRUE.

1150
00:55:47,267 --> 00:55:50,300
THERE WAS MORE SAID
IN MY TRIAL ABOUT MR. BAKKER

1151
00:55:50,334 --> 00:55:52,167
THAN THERE WAS ABOUT ME.

1152
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,601
YOU KNOW, ANYONE
CAN BE PUT IN PRISON.
IF THE GOVERNMENT DECIDES

1153
00:55:55,634 --> 00:55:58,934
THAT THEY DON'T LIKE YOU,
THEY CAN COME UP
WITH ANY REASON

1154
00:55:58,968 --> 00:56:01,701
TO PUT YOU IN PRISON
AND YOU CAN'T STOP IT.

1155
00:56:01,734 --> 00:56:04,467
Roe:
TAMMY HAS GONE THROUGH

1156
00:56:04,501 --> 00:56:08,367
A LOT OF HEARTACHE
IN HER LIFETIME.

1157
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,367
AND PRISON IS HARDER
ON THE WIFE THAN IT IS
ON THE PRISONER.

1158
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,100
I USED TO TELL MY MOTHER
MANY TIMES, "BUT, MOM,
THAT'S NOT FAIR,

1159
00:56:17,133 --> 00:56:18,868
THAT'S NOT FAIR,"
AND MY MOTHER TRAINED ME

1160
00:56:18,901 --> 00:56:23,934
WHEN I WAS A LITTLE GIRL
AND SHE SAID, "TAMMY, WHO
EVER SAID LIFE WAS FAIR?"

1161
00:56:23,968 --> 00:56:26,701
Roe: I PERSONALLY
DON'T LIKE VISITS,

1162
00:56:26,734 --> 00:56:30,701
BECAUSE VISITS
FOR ME ARE HARD.

1163
00:56:30,734 --> 00:56:33,901
IT'S HARD TO SAY
GOOD-BYE.

1164
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,534
SO I'D RATHER NOT
HAVE A VISIT.

1165
00:56:48,868 --> 00:56:51,133
RuPaul: INSTEAD OF LANGUISHING
IN THE DESERT,

1166
00:56:51,167 --> 00:56:53,634
TAMMY DECIDED TO GET BACK
IN FRONT OF THE CAMERAS,

1167
00:56:53,667 --> 00:56:56,567
STARTING WITH AN APPEARANCE
ON THE ROSEANNE SHOW.

1168
00:56:56,601 --> 00:56:59,133
I WOULD MUCH RATHER PREFER
TO WORK IN SECULAR TELEVISION.

1169
00:56:59,167 --> 00:57:03,834
I THINK CHRISTIAN TELEVISION
IS VERY LIMITED IN WHAT
YOU CAN DO.

1170
00:57:03,868 --> 00:57:05,767
Man: SO I WANT TO DO
A QUICK RUN-THROUGH
ON THIS,

1171
00:57:05,801 --> 00:57:07,334
JUST SO YOU'RE
COMFORTABLE.

1172
00:57:07,367 --> 00:57:08,868
I'M COMFORTABLE.
YOU ARE?

1173
00:57:08,901 --> 00:57:10,234
TODAY ON THE ROSEANNE SHOW,

1174
00:57:10,267 --> 00:57:13,267
INFAMOUS TELEVANGELIST
TAMMY FAYE, OUTSPOKEN
ACTIVIST CHASTITY BONO,

1175
00:57:13,300 --> 00:57:17,601
AND ONE OF THE HOTTEST BANDS
AROUND--BLUES TRAVELERS--
IS HERE.

1176
00:57:17,634 --> 00:57:20,868
AND NOW HERE'S ROSEANNE!

1177
00:57:20,901 --> 00:57:21,868
THAT'S GREAT.

1178
00:57:21,901 --> 00:57:23,534
IT'S GOING TO BE
PANDEMONIUM OUT THERE,
BUT...

1179
00:57:23,567 --> 00:57:24,534
OK.

1180
00:57:24,567 --> 00:57:25,601
YOU'LL RESPOND TO THAT.

1181
00:57:25,634 --> 00:57:26,868
I'LL RESPOND TO THAT.
OK.

1182
00:57:26,901 --> 00:57:30,334
I THINK WHAT
THE SECULAR WORLD
DOES NOT REALIZE

1183
00:57:30,367 --> 00:57:32,901
IS THAT I AM
A VERY SECULAR PERSON.

1184
00:57:32,934 --> 00:57:36,234
UH, CHRIST IS JUST
A PART OF ME. UH...

1185
00:57:36,267 --> 00:57:40,133
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT
I HAVE TO CONSTANTLY
TALK ABOUT.

1186
00:57:40,167 --> 00:57:41,334
IT'S SOMETHING INSIDE ME,

1187
00:57:41,367 --> 00:57:44,047
AND IT JUST MAKES ME
WHO I AM.

1188
00:57:44,067 --> 00:57:46,234
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]

1189
00:57:46,267 --> 00:57:48,767
Tammy:
TODAY ON THE ROSEANNE SHOW,

1190
00:57:48,801 --> 00:57:50,901
TELEVANGELIST TAMMY FAYE,

1191
00:57:50,934 --> 00:57:53,834
OUTSPOKEN ACTIVIST
CHASTITY BONO,

1192
00:57:53,868 --> 00:57:56,400
AND ONE OF THE HOTTEST
BANDS AROUND--

1193
00:57:56,434 --> 00:57:58,200
BLUES TRAVELERS--IS HERE.

1194
00:57:58,234 --> 00:58:02,601
AND NOW HERE'S ROSEANNE!

1195
00:58:07,067 --> 00:58:08,634
NOW, YOU'RE MAKEUP
IS EXTREME.

1196
00:58:08,667 --> 00:58:10,267
YOU THINK IT IS?
IT'S VERY EXTREME.

1197
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:11,667
I DON'T MEAN
TO DISRESPECT YOU.

1198
00:58:11,701 --> 00:58:13,047
I JUST WANT
TO KNOW YOU.

1199
00:58:13,067 --> 00:58:14,901
I THINK I FEEL UGLY
WITHOUT IT.

1200
00:58:14,934 --> 00:58:16,901
WELL, IF YOU THINK
YOU LOOK UGLY WITHOUT IT--

1201
00:58:16,934 --> 00:58:18,067
I DO.

1202
00:58:18,100 --> 00:58:19,968
WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING--
THAT'S NOT A RIGHT WAY
TO THINK.

1203
00:58:20,067 --> 00:58:20,968
I KNOW, ROSEANNE.

1204
00:58:21,067 --> 00:58:22,267
BUT, OK, SO DON'T.

1205
00:58:22,300 --> 00:58:23,501
BUT THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL,
YOU KNOW.

1206
00:58:23,534 --> 00:58:24,968
BUT THAT'S
THE WRONG WAY TO FEEL.

1207
00:58:25,067 --> 00:58:27,167
HI, GREG.
IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU.

1208
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,047
YOU'RE TALLER THAN I THOUGHT.
HA HA HA!

1209
00:58:29,067 --> 00:58:30,367
YOU'RE SHORTER
THAN I THOUGHT.

1210
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,734
RuPaul: DECIDING IT WAS
TIME FOR NEW HEADSHOTS,

1211
00:58:32,767 --> 00:58:35,501
TAMMY TURNED TO PHOTOGRAPHER
GREG GORMAN.

1212
00:58:35,534 --> 00:58:36,501
HERE.

1213
00:58:36,534 --> 00:58:37,634
WHAT I THOUGHT
WE COULD DO

1214
00:58:37,667 --> 00:58:38,734
IS START, MAYBE,
SINCE YOU'RE
PROBABLY

1215
00:58:38,767 --> 00:58:40,868
NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH
MYSELF AS I AM WITH
YOU,

1216
00:58:40,901 --> 00:58:42,901
IS SIT DOWN, LET ME
SHOW YOU SOME OF
MY WORK,

1217
00:58:42,934 --> 00:58:45,167
AND LET'S TALK
ABOUT WHAT WE'RE
GOING TO TRY TO DO.

1218
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,767
SOUNDS GOOD.

1219
00:58:47,267 --> 00:58:49,300
OH, YES!
MY FAVORITE LADY
IN THE WHOLE WORLD.

1220
00:58:49,334 --> 00:58:50,300
SARAH, THE DUCHESS OF YORK.

1221
00:58:50,334 --> 00:58:52,047
I WANTED TO SHOW YOU
HOW WE'VE KIND OF

1222
00:58:52,067 --> 00:58:54,868
TAKEN HER OUT OF
THE REALM OF HOW
PEOPLE HAD SEEN HER

1223
00:58:54,901 --> 00:58:56,047
AND GIVEN HER
KIND OF A NEW LOOK.

1224
00:58:56,067 --> 00:58:57,667
MM-HMM.
WHAT WE DID IS BASICALLY...

1225
00:58:57,701 --> 00:58:59,047
MADE HER SOFT,
SOFTENED HER.

1226
00:58:59,067 --> 00:59:00,167
SOFTEN, SOFTENED HER.

1227
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,868
SHE'S BEAUTIFUL.

1228
00:59:03,901 --> 00:59:05,501
SO YOU'VE NEVER DONE PICTURES
WITHOUT THOSE EYELASHES?

1229
00:59:05,534 --> 00:59:07,734
NO, AND I NEVER WILL
BECAUSE THAT'S
MY TRADEMARK.
RIGHT.

1230
00:59:07,767 --> 00:59:10,047
AND IF I TAKE
MY TRADEMARK AWAY,

1231
00:59:10,067 --> 00:59:11,300
THEN IT'S NOT ME.

1232
00:59:11,334 --> 00:59:13,901
AND SO I HOLD
ONTO THAT, I THINK--

1233
00:59:13,934 --> 00:59:15,601
EVEN IF WE SOFTEN THEM
AND KEPT THEM--

1234
00:59:15,634 --> 00:59:17,501
NO, NO. THEY STAY
JUST WHERE THEY ARE.
OK.

1235
00:59:17,534 --> 00:59:18,501
YOU CAN DO ANYTHING ELSE,

1236
00:59:18,534 --> 00:59:19,968
BUT MY EYELASHES WILL
STAY WHERE THEY ARE.

1237
00:59:20,067 --> 00:59:20,968
YOU GOT IT.

1238
00:59:21,067 --> 00:59:22,300
Choir: ♪ HALLELU ♪

1239
00:59:22,334 --> 00:59:23,334
♪ HALLELU ♪

1240
00:59:23,367 --> 00:59:24,434
♪ HALLELU ♪

1241
00:59:24,467 --> 00:59:25,567
♪ HALLELU ♪

1242
00:59:25,601 --> 00:59:26,734
♪ HALLELUJAH ♪

1243
00:59:26,767 --> 00:59:29,367
NORMALLY A PERSON
WOULD COME TO A PHOTO SHOOT,

1244
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,167
ESPECIALLY WITH, YOU KNOW,
A MAJOR TEAM OF PLAYERS

1245
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,734
LIKE THE PHOTOGRAPHER
AND THE HAIRDRESSER
AND THE STYLIST,

1246
00:59:35,767 --> 00:59:40,047
THEY COME BLANK.
THEY COME WITH NO MAKEUP ON,
WITHOUT THEIR HAIR DONE.

1247
00:59:40,067 --> 00:59:42,047
TAMMY FAYE CAME
ALL MADE UP,

1248
00:59:42,067 --> 00:59:44,501
SO WE TOOK IT ALL OFF,
STARTED OVER.

1249
00:59:44,534 --> 00:59:46,834
OK. SO I'M GOING TO START
BY TAKING SOME OFF.

1250
00:59:46,868 --> 00:59:47,834
OK.

1251
00:59:47,868 --> 00:59:49,167
I'M GOING TO TAKE
YOUR FOUNDATION OFF.

1252
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,167
OK.

1253
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,167
AND NORMALLY START AGAIN.

1254
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,167
OK.

1255
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,601
CAN YOU TAKE YOUR LIPS OFF?

1256
00:59:54,634 --> 00:59:56,267
YOU WANT A LITTLE REMOVER?

1257
00:59:56,300 --> 00:59:57,267
THAT'S IT.

1258
00:59:57,300 --> 00:59:58,567
THEY'RE
PERMANENTLY LINED.

1259
00:59:58,601 --> 00:59:59,567
OH.

1260
00:59:59,601 --> 01:00:00,567
AND MY EYES ARE
PERMANENTLY LINED.

1261
01:00:00,601 --> 01:00:01,767
MY EYEBROWS ARE
PERMANENTLY LINED.

1262
01:00:01,801 --> 01:00:05,534
SO THERE'S NOT
A WHOLE LOT YOU
CAN DO WITH THAT.

1263
01:00:05,567 --> 01:00:08,701
MY GOODNESS.
I DIDN'T KNOW.

1264
01:00:13,968 --> 01:00:15,701
YOU KNOW,
I WOULD FEEL BETTER

1265
01:00:15,734 --> 01:00:17,934
IF WE DO A BEFORE
AND AFTER WITH THE CAMERA

1266
01:00:17,968 --> 01:00:20,434
AND NOT DO SO MUCH
OF THIS, PLEASE.

1267
01:00:20,467 --> 01:00:21,534
I THINK WE'RE
GONNA START WITH

1268
01:00:21,567 --> 01:00:24,467
MAYBE THIS LONG
LEATHER JACKET, CK.

1269
01:00:24,501 --> 01:00:25,667
KIND OF TOUGH
BUT FITTED,

1270
01:00:25,701 --> 01:00:29,434
AND GIVE A SEXY LOOK,
BUT IT'S A POWER LOOK,
ALSO--

1271
01:00:29,467 --> 01:00:30,801
"I'M IN CHARGE."

1272
01:00:30,834 --> 01:00:32,434
NO. I DON'T
FEEL GOOD IN THIS.

1273
01:00:32,467 --> 01:00:33,501
THIS IS NOT ME.
UH-UH.

1274
01:00:33,534 --> 01:00:34,501
FEEL TOO...

1275
01:00:34,534 --> 01:00:36,033
I'M TOO--IT'S JUST
NOT ME AT ALL.

1276
01:00:36,067 --> 01:00:37,601
OK.

1277
01:00:37,634 --> 01:00:39,534
SHE BROUGHT A FEW THINGS
OF HER OWN

1278
01:00:39,567 --> 01:00:42,300
THAT WE MIGHT NOT
GET TO TODAY.

1279
01:00:42,334 --> 01:00:45,400
I GET SO SICK OF THIS
HOLLYWOOD CRAP.

1280
01:00:45,434 --> 01:00:46,400
THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

1281
01:00:46,434 --> 01:00:47,400
I LIKE REAL.

1282
01:00:47,434 --> 01:00:48,868
I AGREE.

1283
01:00:48,901 --> 01:00:50,934
I'M AN OLD FARM GIRL
AND I LIKE REAL.

1284
01:00:50,968 --> 01:00:54,367
SO THAT'S WHY I'M WEARING
ALL THESE WIGS!

1285
01:00:55,667 --> 01:00:58,334
♪ GLORIA, GLORIA ♪

1286
01:00:59,234 --> 01:01:01,834
♪ GLORIA, GLORIA ♪

1287
01:01:01,868 --> 01:01:03,501
Tammy: I WAS
A LITTLE DISCONCERTED.

1288
01:01:03,534 --> 01:01:05,467
THEY LOOK AT YOUR FACE
AND FIGURE OUT THAT

1289
01:01:05,501 --> 01:01:06,634
YOU'VE GOT TO COCK IT
THIS WAY TO LOOK GOOD.

1290
01:01:06,667 --> 01:01:07,634
THIS WAY?

1291
01:01:07,667 --> 01:01:10,801
Greg: YEAH.
THAT'S PERFECT.

1292
01:01:11,667 --> 01:01:13,467
I DID HAVE TO TAKE
A LOT OF THE MASCARA OFF,

1293
01:01:13,501 --> 01:01:17,534
WHICH WAS OK WITH ME
BECAUSE IT ENDED UP
BEING WHAT I THOUGHT

1294
01:01:17,567 --> 01:01:18,868
A VERY GOOD LOOK FOR ME.

1295
01:01:18,901 --> 01:01:19,968
♪ GLORIA ♪

1296
01:01:20,067 --> 01:01:21,801
[SINGING IN LATIN]

1297
01:01:21,834 --> 01:01:23,567
I WANTED TO LEAVE
THE PHOTO SESSION

1298
01:01:23,601 --> 01:01:25,567
AND GO DIRECTLY
TO THE PLASTIC SURGEON.

1299
01:01:25,601 --> 01:01:28,133
COULD I HAVE AFFORDED IT,
I WOULD HAVE,

1300
01:01:28,167 --> 01:01:29,534
BUT UNFORTUNATELY
I'M STILL HERE.

1301
01:01:29,567 --> 01:01:32,801
RuPaul: THE NEXT DAY
TAMMY WENT TO USA NETWORKS

1302
01:01:32,834 --> 01:01:34,434
TO PITCH HER IDEAS
FOR TV SHOWS

1303
01:01:34,467 --> 01:01:36,734
TO NETWORK EXECUTIVE
STEVEN CHOW,

1304
01:01:36,767 --> 01:01:39,133
CREATOR OF COPS AND STUDS.

1305
01:01:39,167 --> 01:01:40,133
HELLO.
WELL, HI, STEVEN!

1306
01:01:40,167 --> 01:01:42,100
HOW ARE YOU?
NICE TO MEET YOU.
I'M TAMMY.

1307
01:01:42,133 --> 01:01:43,834
NICE TO MEET YOU.
HI. HAVE A SEAT.

1308
01:01:43,868 --> 01:01:45,501
OK. THANK YOU.

1309
01:01:45,534 --> 01:01:46,501
SO YOU HERE
TO PITCH SOMETHING.

1310
01:01:46,534 --> 01:01:48,567
WELL, YOU'RE HERE TO PITCH,
SO START, RIGHT?

1311
01:01:48,601 --> 01:01:50,334
OK. WELL, NO, I--

1312
01:01:50,367 --> 01:01:51,467
I'VE GOT 3 IDEAS, STEVEN,

1313
01:01:51,501 --> 01:01:54,934
AND THEN I WOULD LIKE
TO KNOW WHAT YOU
SEE ME AS DOING.

1314
01:01:54,968 --> 01:01:57,167
BUT ONE OF MY IDEAS
IS A CHILDREN'S SHOW,

1315
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,267
WHERE WE TALK TO PUPPETS
AND WE TALK TO THE KIDS,

1316
01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:02,701
AND THEN KIDS
TALKING TO PUPPETS
ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS

1317
01:02:02,734 --> 01:02:05,047
AND THEIR CONCERNS
AND THINGS WHICH BOTHER THEM.

1318
01:02:05,067 --> 01:02:09,300
IT WOULD BE A FUN SHOW
WITH SOME SERIOUS PARTS
ONCE IN A WHILE, YOU KNOW.

1319
01:02:09,334 --> 01:02:11,234
IT'S A WAY TO GO.
I'M NOT SURE IT'S--

1320
01:02:11,267 --> 01:02:14,934
BUT WHAT ABOUT PUPPETS AND...
EVERYBODY LOVES PUPPETS.
EVEN ADULTS...

1321
01:02:14,968 --> 01:02:15,934
SURE.

1322
01:02:15,968 --> 01:02:17,367
LOVE PUPPETS.

1323
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,067
UH-HUH.

1324
01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:20,133
I HAVE ANOTHER ONE.

1325
01:02:20,167 --> 01:02:21,834
TEENAGERS NEED SOMETHING
REALLY SPECIAL.

1326
01:02:21,868 --> 01:02:24,367
THEY NEED A FORMAT
FOR A LOT OF THINGS.

1327
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,634
AND THEY HAVE NO WAY--
THE BIGGEST THING
THEY ALWAYS SAY,

1328
01:02:26,667 --> 01:02:29,767
"WELL, HOW DO WE GET
ANYONE TO LISTEN TO US?"

1329
01:02:29,801 --> 01:02:32,534
AND I WOULD JUST LOVE
TO GIVE THEM THAT CHANCE.

1330
01:02:32,567 --> 01:02:33,634
AND GO WHERE THEY GO.

1331
01:02:33,667 --> 01:02:36,400
I WOULD LIKE TO GO
TO THE PIERCING PARLORS
WITH THEM.

1332
01:02:36,434 --> 01:02:38,200
I'D LIKE TO GO TO
THE TATTOO PLACES WITH THEM.

1333
01:02:38,234 --> 01:02:40,100
JUST DO EVERYTHING
THAT TEENAGERS DO.

1334
01:02:40,133 --> 01:02:42,868
AND--AND YOU WOULD
CALL THIS SHOW WHAT?

1335
01:02:42,901 --> 01:02:44,801
TAMMY'S TERRIFIC TEENS

1336
01:02:44,834 --> 01:02:46,267
WOULD BE A FUN TITLE.

1337
01:02:46,300 --> 01:02:47,267
AND, UM...

1338
01:02:47,300 --> 01:02:48,501
ALL RIGHT.
NO, I'M JUST CURIOUS.

1339
01:02:48,534 --> 01:02:51,901
YEAH, YEAH, WE'D
PROBABLY HAVE TO COME UP
WITH SOMETHING FUN.

1340
01:02:51,934 --> 01:02:54,167
AND THEN I'VE GOT ONE MORE.
HA HA HA.

1341
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,167
OK. NO, NO, NO. I MEAN,
WE'LL CIRCLE BACK.

1342
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:57,834
OK. MEDICINE TODAY
WITH TAMMY FAYE.

1343
01:02:57,868 --> 01:03:02,133
PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW
WHAT IS AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW,

1344
01:03:02,167 --> 01:03:03,968
IN THE MARKET THAT'S
COMING UP NEW

1345
01:03:04,067 --> 01:03:07,047
AND WHAT IS AVAILABLE--
THE OLD THINGS THAT WORK
IN MEDICINE.

1346
01:03:07,067 --> 01:03:08,100
UM...

1347
01:03:08,133 --> 01:03:09,434
I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO GO
SIT WITH ALZHEIMER'S PATIENTS

1348
01:03:09,467 --> 01:03:11,100
AND EXPLAIN ALL--
HAVE THE DOCTORS
EXPLAIN ALZHEIMER'S.

1349
01:03:11,133 --> 01:03:12,868
AY YI YI.

1350
01:03:12,901 --> 01:03:14,868
I DON'T KNOW.
I'M JUST THROWING THESE OUT.

1351
01:03:14,901 --> 01:03:16,501
IT'S JUST IDEAS
THAT I'VE HAD FROM BEING ON--

1352
01:03:16,534 --> 01:03:19,200
YOU KNOW, JUST IDEAS THAT
HAVE BEEN SWIMMING AROUND
IN MY HEAD.

1353
01:03:19,234 --> 01:03:22,133
WHAT DO YOU SEE ME DOING,
STEVE?

1354
01:03:22,167 --> 01:03:23,133
YOU'RE THE--
I DON'T KNOW.

1355
01:03:23,167 --> 01:03:24,767
YOU'RE THE...
I MEAN, I DON'T...

1356
01:03:24,801 --> 01:03:27,400
EXPERT.
I MEAN, I THINK--
I SUSPECT, AND I'M

1357
01:03:27,434 --> 01:03:29,467
MAKING A STATEMENT
THAT MAY OR MAY NOT
BE TRUE,

1358
01:03:29,501 --> 01:03:33,701
BUT I THINK THAT
YOU WANT TO BE
ON THE AIR.

1359
01:03:33,734 --> 01:03:35,367
YOU REALLY LIKE BEING
IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA.

1360
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,634
WELL, I LOVE THE CAM--
I DO LOVE THE CAMERA.

1361
01:03:37,667 --> 01:03:39,133
BECAUSE I THINK--
WHY?

1362
01:03:39,167 --> 01:03:40,133
BECAUSE IT'S A PERSON.

1363
01:03:40,167 --> 01:03:41,567
I'VE NEVER BEEN
IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA

1364
01:03:41,601 --> 01:03:43,501
SO I'M NOT SURE THAT
I UNDERSTAND THE APPEAL.

1365
01:03:43,534 --> 01:03:45,200
BECAUSE IT'S PEOPLE.
IT'S NOT A CAMERA.

1366
01:03:45,234 --> 01:03:47,267
IT'S PEOPLE.
IT'S SOMEONE TO TALK TO.

1367
01:03:47,300 --> 01:03:48,634
I--I DON'T KNOW,
YOU KNOW.

1368
01:03:48,667 --> 01:03:49,934
YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN.
I CAN'T HELP--

1369
01:03:49,968 --> 01:03:52,334
I CAN'T--I MEAN,
I HAVE NO PLACE
FOR A TALK SHOW.

1370
01:03:52,367 --> 01:03:53,334
I UNDERSTAND THAT, STEVEN.

1371
01:03:53,367 --> 01:03:54,934
I SHOULD WALK YOU
DOWNSTAIRS TO LIFETIME

1372
01:03:54,968 --> 01:03:57,133
WHICH ABOUT 15 FLOORS
BELOW US RIGHT NOW.

1373
01:03:57,167 --> 01:04:00,634
WELL, MAYBE YOU COULD
PUT MY NAME IN AT LIFETIME,

1374
01:04:00,667 --> 01:04:03,067
SEE MAYBE SOMEONE
WOULD BE INTERESTED THERE.

1375
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:05,100
I WOULD REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT, STEVEN.

1376
01:04:05,133 --> 01:04:08,467
[TELEPHONE RINGING]

1377
01:04:09,868 --> 01:04:11,534
Woman: GOOD AFTERNOON,
LIFETIME.

1378
01:04:11,567 --> 01:04:13,634
IS DAWN THERE?
IT'S STEVEN CHOW.

1379
01:04:13,667 --> 01:04:14,767
RuPaul: THE CALL TO LIFETIME

1380
01:04:14,801 --> 01:04:17,734
WENT UNRETURNED, AND TAMMY
FOUND OTHER NETWORKS

1381
01:04:17,767 --> 01:04:21,667
UNWILLING TO MEET
AND DISCUSS HER
TELEVISION COMEBACK.

1382
01:04:21,701 --> 01:04:25,801
SO SHE RETURNED
TO THE DESERT...

1383
01:04:28,901 --> 01:04:31,334
Tammy: COME ON, MUFFIN.

1384
01:04:31,367 --> 01:04:33,300
[WHISTLING]

1385
01:04:33,334 --> 01:04:34,300
MUFFIN?

1386
01:04:34,334 --> 01:04:37,300
RuPaul: ALONE,
WITH HER DOLLS,

1387
01:04:37,334 --> 01:04:38,300
HER DOGS...

1388
01:04:38,334 --> 01:04:40,067
YOU STAY, RIGHT THERE.

1389
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:42,100
AND HER FAITH.

1390
01:04:42,133 --> 01:04:45,567
♪ HALLELUJAH ♪

1391
01:04:45,601 --> 01:04:49,067
♪ HALLELUJAH ♪

1392
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:51,667
♪ HALLELUJAH ♪

1393
01:04:51,701 --> 01:04:54,367
Man: MY WIFE AND I
RAN INTO TAMMY FAYE,

1394
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,734
AND WE'D MET HER PRIOR
AND I SAID,

1395
01:04:56,767 --> 01:04:59,200
"WELL, TAMMY FAYE,
WHY DON'T YOU COME
TO CHURCH?"

1396
01:04:59,234 --> 01:05:01,734
AND SHE SAID,
"OH, I COULDN'T
COME TO CHURCH

1397
01:05:01,767 --> 01:05:03,200
BECAUSE I'VE BEEN
DIVORCED."

1398
01:05:03,234 --> 01:05:05,901
WHEN WE DO KIND
OF MISS THE MARK,

1399
01:05:05,934 --> 01:05:09,100
WHAT GOD HAS TO SAY IS
COME BACK.

1400
01:05:09,133 --> 01:05:12,534
Tammy: GOING BACK TO CHURCH
WAS VERY FRIGHTENING FOR ME.

1401
01:05:12,567 --> 01:05:14,167
BUT AS I WALKED
IN OUR CHURCH,

1402
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:18,133
PASTOR JEFF CAME AND PUT THOSE
GREAT BIG OL' ARMS
AROUND ME,

1403
01:05:18,167 --> 01:05:21,968
AND HE SAID, "TAMMY FAYE,
WE WANT YOU HERE."

1404
01:05:22,067 --> 01:05:23,334
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN,

1405
01:05:23,367 --> 01:05:26,133
I BELONGED
AT PASTOR JEFF'S CHURCH.

1406
01:05:26,167 --> 01:05:29,834
RuPaul: TODAY TAMMY
LEADS THE CHOIR

1407
01:05:29,868 --> 01:05:32,067
AND PLAYS
FRANK SINATRA'S ORGAN,

1408
01:05:32,100 --> 01:05:33,501
A BEQUEST TO THE CHURCH.

1409
01:05:33,534 --> 01:05:37,801
Tammy: YOU CANNOT GO FORWARD
LOOKING IN THE REARVIEW
MIRROR OF YOUR LIFE.

1410
01:05:37,834 --> 01:05:40,100
JUST DROP IT ALL
AND MOVE ON

1411
01:05:40,133 --> 01:05:42,067
AND IT'S THE ONLY WAY IN LIFE

1412
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:46,934
THAT YOU WILL EVER FIND
PEACE, JOY AND VICTORY.

1413
01:05:53,133 --> 01:05:55,801
[GRRR]

1414
01:05:55,834 --> 01:05:58,300
RuPaul: FINALLY TAMMY
HAD THE CONFIDENCE

1415
01:05:58,334 --> 01:05:59,534
TO SING AGAIN.

1416
01:05:59,567 --> 01:06:03,601
SHE ACCEPTED AN INVITATION
TO SING AT ORAL ROBERTS
UNIVERSITY

1417
01:06:03,634 --> 01:06:06,367
IN THE HEART
OF BIBLE COUNTRY.

1418
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,167
Tammy: I DREADED GOING BACK

1419
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:12,100
BECAUSE THE CHRISTIAN
COMMUNITY HAD BEEN
SO UNKIND TO US,

1420
01:06:12,133 --> 01:06:15,167
AND I FELT WE HAD
BEEN JUDGED SO UNFAIRLY

1421
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,801
BY OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS
IN THE LORD.

1422
01:06:17,834 --> 01:06:24,634
TO MAKE THE TRIP, TAMMY
ALSO HAD TO OVERCOME
HER FEAR OF FLYING.

1423
01:06:24,667 --> 01:06:27,767
I USED TO BE HORRIBLY
NERVOUS ON AIRPLANES.

1424
01:06:27,801 --> 01:06:31,434
I'M ONLY SLIGHTLY NERVOUS
ON AN AIRPLANE NOW,

1425
01:06:31,467 --> 01:06:33,133
AND IT'S GETTING BETTER
ALL THE TIME.

1426
01:06:33,167 --> 01:06:34,667
[THUNDER]

1427
01:06:34,701 --> 01:06:36,901
RuPaul: BAD WEATHER GROUNDED
THE PLANE IN DALLAS.

1428
01:06:36,934 --> 01:06:40,047
Man: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
THIS IS THE CAPTAIN SPEAKING.

1429
01:06:40,067 --> 01:06:41,133
THE GUST FRONT
HAS JUST HIT,

1430
01:06:41,167 --> 01:06:44,701
SO WE ARE GOING
TO BE SITTING HERE
FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

1431
01:06:44,734 --> 01:06:47,601
I DON'T LIKE THIS AT ALL.

1432
01:06:49,534 --> 01:06:51,567
I'M SCARED.

1433
01:06:54,167 --> 01:06:56,534
I THINK WE'RE SAFE
IN HERE WITH LIGHTNING

1434
01:06:56,567 --> 01:07:00,667
BECAUSE IT'S GOT
TIRES ON IT, RIGHT?

1435
01:07:01,601 --> 01:07:02,567
IF THIS PLANE
DIDN'T HAVE TIRES ON IT,

1436
01:07:02,601 --> 01:07:05,367
WOULD WE ALL BE FRIED?

1437
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,501
I DON'T KNOW.

1438
01:07:08,868 --> 01:07:11,534
♪ WHOO HOO ♪

1439
01:07:12,367 --> 01:07:15,100
NOW, HERE ARE THE OPTIONS.
WE'RE ALL HUNGRY.

1440
01:07:15,133 --> 01:07:20,167
Woman: WE'RE PROBABLY
GOING TO BE SITTING HERE
FOR A LITTLE WHILE LONGER.

1441
01:07:20,734 --> 01:07:22,667
HELLO, TAMMY.
[SILLY VOICE]
WELL, HELLO THERE.

1442
01:07:22,701 --> 01:07:26,047
[REGULAR VOICE]
ARE YOU ANXIOUS
TO GET TO TULSA?

1443
01:07:26,067 --> 01:07:28,300
[SILLY VOICE]
SURE AS HECK AM.

1444
01:07:28,334 --> 01:07:30,868
WELL, I THINK
WE SHOULD DRIVE.

1445
01:07:30,901 --> 01:07:33,701
[REGULAR VOICE]
ME, TOO, TAM.

1446
01:07:58,567 --> 01:08:00,167
Man: SHE'S A FABULOUS SINGER.

1447
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,567
UH, SHE REALLY CONNECTS
WELL WITH THE PEOPLE.

1448
01:08:02,601 --> 01:08:07,047
THIS WAS HER FIRST CONCERT
IN OVER A DECADE.

1449
01:08:07,067 --> 01:08:09,167
♪ YOU GAVE ME ♪

1450
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:13,734
♪ THE CHANCE I NEEDED ♪

1451
01:08:13,767 --> 01:08:17,701
♪ TO START AGAIN ♪

1452
01:08:17,734 --> 01:08:18,968
Tammy: I WAS VERY,
VERY NERVOUS

1453
01:08:19,067 --> 01:08:22,100
BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW
HOW I WOULD BE TREATED

1454
01:08:22,133 --> 01:08:23,868
AFTER SO MANY YEARS.

1455
01:08:23,901 --> 01:08:24,868
♪ AND-- ♪

1456
01:08:24,901 --> 01:08:27,701
THERE'S TOO MUCH BASS
IN THIS DOWN HERE

1457
01:08:27,734 --> 01:08:28,701
IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.

1458
01:08:28,734 --> 01:08:31,334
ALL I'M HEARING IS
BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM.

1459
01:08:31,367 --> 01:08:34,200
David: THERE'S AN ELDERLY LADY
IN MY DAD'S CHURCH,

1460
01:08:34,234 --> 01:08:36,968
AND WHEN SHE FOUND OUT
THAT TAMMY FAYE

1461
01:08:37,067 --> 01:08:38,801
WAS GOING TO BE PREACHING
AT BROTHER DAVID'S CHURCH,

1462
01:08:38,834 --> 01:08:41,067
SHE SAID, "WHY IS SHE
COMING HERE?"

1463
01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:43,734
SHE JUST HAPPENED TO BE
STANDING IN THE RIGHT PLACE

1464
01:08:43,767 --> 01:08:45,567
WHILE TAMMY FAYE WAS
COMING OUT OF HER ROOM

1465
01:08:45,601 --> 01:08:48,334
GETTING READY
TO GO ON STAGE AND SING,

1466
01:08:48,367 --> 01:08:50,334
AND I DIDN'T SAY A WORD.

1467
01:08:50,367 --> 01:08:51,934
Tammy: HI,
HOW ARE YOU TODAY?

1468
01:08:51,968 --> 01:08:55,067
I'M FINE.
HOW ARE YOU, DARLIN'?

1469
01:08:55,100 --> 01:08:56,067
GOD BLESS YOU.
BLESS YOUR HEART.

1470
01:08:56,100 --> 01:08:57,300
BLESS YOUR HEART.

1471
01:08:57,334 --> 01:09:00,300
David: THE NEXT DAY
THIS LADY WAS SITTING
ON THE SECOND ROW,

1472
01:09:00,334 --> 01:09:04,047
JUST WITH THIS BIG OL'--
I THINK THEY'RE HER OWN
TEETH, BY THE WAY, TOO--

1473
01:09:04,067 --> 01:09:05,968
THIS BIG OL' SET OF TEETH
AND JUST SMILING

1474
01:09:06,067 --> 01:09:09,567
AND JUST ROOTING TAMMY ON
AND RUBBING HER ON THE BACK
AND PATTING HER.

1475
01:09:09,601 --> 01:09:10,801
SO TALKING ABOUT
RESERVATIONS,

1476
01:09:10,834 --> 01:09:12,667
WHY DO CHRISTIANS
HAVE RESERVATIONS?

1477
01:09:12,701 --> 01:09:14,334
BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HER.

1478
01:09:14,367 --> 01:09:15,734
Announcer:
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

1479
01:09:15,767 --> 01:09:19,601
TONIGHT'S SPECIAL GUEST:
TAMMY FAYE.

1480
01:09:28,534 --> 01:09:29,501
Tammy Faye: WHEN I WALKED IN

1481
01:09:29,534 --> 01:09:32,047
AND WAS RECEIVED
WITH SO MUCH LOVE

1482
01:09:32,067 --> 01:09:34,868
AND GENUINELY, THEY SEEMED
HAPPY TO SEE ME,

1483
01:09:34,901 --> 01:09:37,601
WHICH I WAS GENUINELY
HAPPY TO BE BACK

1484
01:09:37,634 --> 01:09:39,701
WHERE I ONCE BELONGED.

1485
01:09:39,734 --> 01:09:41,200
GOSH.

1486
01:09:42,734 --> 01:09:43,834
I NEED A KLEENEX.
HA HA.

1487
01:09:43,868 --> 01:09:50,868
♪ GLORY, GLORY, HALLELUJAH ♪

1488
01:09:51,067 --> 01:09:58,067
♪ GLORY, GLORY, HALLELUJAH ♪

1489
01:09:59,601 --> 01:10:06,267
♪ GLORY, GLORY HALLELUJAH ♪

1490
01:10:06,300 --> 01:10:13,300
♪ HIS TRUTH IS MARCHING ON ♪

1491
01:10:15,167 --> 01:10:22,167
♪ HIS TRUTH IS MARCHING ON ♪

1492
01:10:29,901 --> 01:10:30,868
THANK YOU, LORD,

1493
01:10:30,901 --> 01:10:33,133
FOR THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA!

1494
01:10:33,167 --> 01:10:35,567
WE PRAY FOR OUR PRESIDENT,
O FATHER.

1495
01:10:35,601 --> 01:10:40,667
WE THANK YOU, LORD,
THAT WE LIVE IN THIS
WONDERFUL COUNTRY.

1496
01:10:40,701 --> 01:10:44,267
GOD BLESS AMERICA!

1497
01:10:44,300 --> 01:10:46,567
HALLELUJAH.

1498
01:10:46,601 --> 01:10:47,801
OH, YES.

1499
01:10:47,834 --> 01:10:50,234
Tammy Faye: IN
ANCIENT CIVILIZATION,

1500
01:10:50,267 --> 01:10:53,868
IF YOU MURDERED SOMEBODY,
THEY DIDN'T PUT YOU IN JAIL.

1501
01:10:53,901 --> 01:10:56,400
THEY DID SOMETHING FAR WORSE.

1502
01:10:56,434 --> 01:10:59,367
THEY TOOK THE PERSON
THAT YOU MURDERED

1503
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:00,968
AND STUCK HIM ON YOUR BACK.

1504
01:11:01,067 --> 01:11:03,734
CAN YOU IMAGINE
WHAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE

1505
01:11:03,767 --> 01:11:07,467
TO HAVE A DEAD PERSON
STRAPPED TO YOUR BACK?

1506
01:11:07,501 --> 01:11:09,367
WELL, THE FIRST THING
THAT STARTS HAPPENING,

1507
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,734
THEY START DECAYING.

1508
01:11:12,767 --> 01:11:15,434
OH, GOSH, AND THEY START
SMELLING BAD

1509
01:11:15,467 --> 01:11:17,047
AND THEN BUGS GET ON THEM.

1510
01:11:17,067 --> 01:11:19,767
YOU KNOW, WHAT DO THEY CALL
THOSE THINGS THAT EAT THEM?

1511
01:11:19,801 --> 01:11:21,701
MAGGOTS! OOH!
MAGGOTS! MAGGOTS!

1512
01:11:21,734 --> 01:11:25,667
I HAD JERRY FALWELL STRAPPED
ON MY BACK FOR A LONG TIME.

1513
01:11:25,701 --> 01:11:28,901
HE WAS ON MY BACK
STRAPPED SO TIGHTLY TO ME

1514
01:11:28,934 --> 01:11:30,767
I COULDN'T--
I COULDN'T BREATHE.

1515
01:11:30,801 --> 01:11:32,100
I COULD HARDLY EAT.

1516
01:11:32,133 --> 01:11:33,767
I HAD A HARD TIME SLEEPING.

1517
01:11:33,801 --> 01:11:37,167
I WAS MISERABLE.
HE WAS DESTROYING MY LIFE.

1518
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,167
JERRY FALWELL WAS KILLING ME

1519
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,300
ALL BECAUSE I WAS SO ANGRY
AT SOMEONE I COULDN'T FORGET.

1520
01:11:42,334 --> 01:11:45,567
NOW, WAS IT HURTING
JERRY FALWELL THAT
I WAS ANGRY?

1521
01:11:45,601 --> 01:11:47,200
HA HA HA HA. HE'S DEAD.

1522
01:11:47,234 --> 01:11:50,601
THE ONLY ONE IT WAS KILLING
WAS TAMMY FAYE,

1523
01:11:50,634 --> 01:11:53,400
AND ONE DAY, I GAVE
JERRY FALWELL TO THE LORD.

1524
01:11:53,434 --> 01:11:59,634
AND I SAID, "LORD, THERE'S
NOT A THING I CAN DO ABOUT
WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

1525
01:11:59,667 --> 01:12:04,567
"IT'S GONE. I CAN'T DO A THING
ABOUT WHAT JERRY FALWELL DID

1526
01:12:04,601 --> 01:12:06,434
"TO HERITAGE U.S.A. AND PTL.

1527
01:12:06,467 --> 01:12:07,734
"THAT'S ALL OVER,

1528
01:12:07,767 --> 01:12:10,267
"BUT I CAN DO SOMETHING
ABOUT MYSELF

1529
01:12:10,300 --> 01:12:12,868
AND THE WAY I FEEL."

1530
01:12:17,734 --> 01:12:19,334
RuPaul: THANKSGIVING, 1998.

1531
01:12:19,367 --> 01:12:22,367
WITH JUST A FEW MONTHS TO GO
TILL ROE'S RELEASE,

1532
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:23,868
TAMMY RETURNS
TO HERITAGE U.S.A.

1533
01:12:23,901 --> 01:12:30,901
FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE
SHE AND JIM LOST THEIR
PTL MINISTRY IN 1987.

1534
01:12:31,501 --> 01:12:34,667
SINCE BANKRUPTCY,
THE 2,200 ACRE COMPLEX

1535
01:12:34,701 --> 01:12:37,934
HAS LAIN EMPTY
AND ABANDONED.

1536
01:12:40,601 --> 01:12:44,400
♪ ON THE PAGES OF MY MIND ♪

1537
01:12:44,434 --> 01:12:49,067
♪ LORD, I OFTEN FIND ♪

1538
01:12:49,901 --> 01:12:52,501
♪ MEMORIES ♪

1539
01:12:54,501 --> 01:12:57,467
♪ OF THE TEARS I'VE CRIED ♪

1540
01:12:57,501 --> 01:13:00,467
♪ OF THE DAYS GONE BY ♪

1541
01:13:00,501 --> 01:13:04,801
♪ OF THE PAIN I'VE SEEN ♪

1542
01:13:07,067 --> 01:13:13,567
♪ OH, I TRIED TO UNDERSTAND
WITH A FRIEND'S HELPING HAND ♪

1543
01:13:13,601 --> 01:13:16,634
♪ IT SEEMED FUTILITY... ♪

1544
01:13:16,667 --> 01:13:21,801
Tammy Faye: JIM WOULD HAVE
NEVER ALLOWED...

1545
01:13:21,834 --> 01:13:24,467
A CHAIR LIKE THIS...

1546
01:13:24,868 --> 01:13:25,834
TO SIT.

1547
01:13:25,868 --> 01:13:30,133
AT HERITAGE U.S.A.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PAINTED.

1548
01:13:30,167 --> 01:13:32,367
HE NEVER ALLOWED
A LIGHT BULB TO BE OUT,

1549
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,901
HE NEVER ALLOWED
A DIRTY REST ROOM,

1550
01:13:34,934 --> 01:13:38,133
HE NEVER ALLOWED
GRASS TO GROW UNCUT,

1551
01:13:38,167 --> 01:13:40,734
AND HE WOULD HAVE NEVER
ALLOWED THIS.

1552
01:13:40,767 --> 01:13:45,200
WHEN I LOOK AT THIS CHAIR
RUSTED AWAY,

1553
01:13:45,234 --> 01:13:48,501
THAT'S SORT OF WHAT'S
HAPPENED TO HERITAGE U.S.A.,

1554
01:13:48,534 --> 01:13:53,634
AND HOW I WOULD LOVE
TO PUT A FRESH COAT
OF PAINT ON IT...

1555
01:13:53,667 --> 01:13:55,434
AND MAKE IT LIVE AGAIN...

1556
01:13:55,467 --> 01:13:57,133
[SOBS]

1557
01:13:57,167 --> 01:14:03,133
BUT UNFORTUNATELY,
I CAN'T DO THAT.

1558
01:14:04,434 --> 01:14:08,267
THIS MORNING, WHEN I
WAS NEEDING SOME COMFORT,

1559
01:14:08,300 --> 01:14:11,601
I TURNED TO MY FAVORITE
SCRIPTURE, PSALMS 91.

1560
01:14:11,634 --> 01:14:15,467
"HE THAT DWELLETH IN THE
SECRET PLACE OF THE MOST HIGH

1561
01:14:15,501 --> 01:14:18,701
SHALL ABIDE UNDER THE SHADOW
OF THE ALMIGHTY."

1562
01:14:18,734 --> 01:14:21,067
THIS IS THE PART I LIKE.

1563
01:14:27,067 --> 01:14:27,968
[REPRESSING TEARS]

1564
01:14:28,067 --> 01:14:31,167
"HE SHALL COVER THEE
WITH HIS FEATHERS

1565
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:36,567
AND UNDER HIS WINGS
SHALT THOU TRUST."

1566
01:14:37,901 --> 01:14:40,534
"BECAUSE HE HAS SET
HIS LOVE UPON ME,

1567
01:14:40,567 --> 01:14:42,567
"THEREFORE
WILL I DELIVER HIM.

1568
01:14:42,601 --> 01:14:46,801
"I WILL SET HIM ON HIGH
BECAUSE HE HATH KNOWN MY NAME.

1569
01:14:46,834 --> 01:14:50,801
"HE SHALL CALL UPON ME
AND I WILL ANSWER HIM.

1570
01:14:50,834 --> 01:14:52,767
"I WILL
BE WITH HIM IN TROUBLE.

1571
01:14:52,801 --> 01:14:55,067
"I WILL DELIVER HIM
AND HONOR HIM,

1572
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:58,434
"AND WITH LONG LIFE,
I WILL SATISFY HIM

1573
01:14:58,467 --> 01:15:01,767
AND SHOW HIM MY SALVATION."

1574
01:15:06,067 --> 01:15:11,901
I WILL HUG ROE TODAY
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2 YEARS

1575
01:15:11,934 --> 01:15:16,300
WITHOUT HAVING PEOPLE
STANDING THERE WATCHING ME.

1576
01:15:34,834 --> 01:15:36,801
Roe: I'M STILL NUMB,
REALLY.

1577
01:15:36,834 --> 01:15:40,267
YOU KNOW, BEING AWAY
FROM YOUR WIFE
AND FAMILY

1578
01:15:40,300 --> 01:15:42,334
IS REALLY HARD.

1579
01:15:42,367 --> 01:15:46,334
IT'S JUST...YOU KNOW,
I JUST DON'T KNOW
HOW TO SAY IT

1580
01:15:46,367 --> 01:15:48,767
OTHER THAN THAT.

1581
01:15:50,767 --> 01:15:54,634
WELL, WE GOTTA GO
GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER AGAIN.

1582
01:15:54,667 --> 01:15:56,367
GOOD-BYE.

1583
01:15:56,767 --> 01:16:00,634
Tammy Faye: I'M JUST
A SMALL TOWN GIRL AT HEART

1584
01:16:00,667 --> 01:16:04,667
AND I WANT TO GO BACK
TO THE TREES AND THE GRASS

1585
01:16:04,701 --> 01:16:11,167
AND THE FLOWERS AND MY KIDS
AND MY GRANDKIDS.

1586
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,934
BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO IT,
THAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS.

1587
01:16:14,968 --> 01:16:19,133
THAT'S WHAT COUNTS IN LIFE,
AND I'VE LEARNED THAT.

1588
01:16:19,167 --> 01:16:21,334
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU HAVE

1589
01:16:21,367 --> 01:16:23,634
AND--AND--AND STUFF.

1590
01:16:23,667 --> 01:16:26,167
IT'S PEOPLE THAT COUNT.

1591
01:16:34,634 --> 01:16:41,634
♪ DON'T GIVE UP
ON THE BRINK OF A MIRACLE ♪

1592
01:16:42,767 --> 01:16:49,767
♪ DON'T GIVE IN WHILE
HE'S STILL ON THE THRONE ♪

1593
01:16:51,067 --> 01:16:58,067
♪ DON'T GIVE UP
ON THE BRINK OF A MIRACLE ♪

1594
01:16:59,067 --> 01:17:01,200
♪ DON'T GIVE UP ♪

1595
01:17:01,234 --> 01:17:08,047
♪ REMEMBER YOU'RE NOT ALONE ♪

1596
01:17:08,067 --> 01:17:09,434
♪ WELL, THE DEVIL IS A THIEF ♪

1597
01:17:09,467 --> 01:17:15,834
♪ AND HE SENDS ALL THOSE
TROUBLES TO CONFOUND YOU ♪

1598
01:17:15,868 --> 01:17:17,801
♪ AND HE LIES AND SAYS
THIS TIME ♪

1599
01:17:17,834 --> 01:17:24,701
♪ THERE'S NO WAY YOU
CAN FIND TO MAKE IT THROUGH ♪

1600
01:17:24,734 --> 01:17:26,534
♪ GOD'S WORD IS TRUE ♪

1601
01:17:26,567 --> 01:17:28,934
♪ THE DEVIL IS THE LORD'S ♪

1602
01:17:28,968 --> 01:17:30,434
♪ DON'T GIVE IN TO FEAR ♪

1603
01:17:30,467 --> 01:17:33,047
♪ THINK ON THINGS
THAT ARE PURE ♪

1604
01:17:33,067 --> 01:17:34,534
♪ AND PRAISE THE LORD ♪

1605
01:17:34,567 --> 01:17:39,567
♪ YOUR MIRACLE IS HERE ♪

1606
01:17:39,601 --> 01:17:46,601
♪ DON'T GIVE UP
ON THE BRINK OF A MIRACLE ♪

1607
01:17:48,434 --> 01:17:49,834
♪ DON'T YOU GIVE IN ♪

1608
01:17:49,868 --> 01:17:56,367
♪ GOD IS STILL ON HIS THRONE ♪

1609
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:57,567
♪ DON'T GIVE UP ♪

1610
01:17:57,601 --> 01:18:04,467
♪ YOU'RE ON THE BRINK
OF YOUR MIRACLE ♪

1611
01:18:04,501 --> 01:18:05,834
♪ DON'T GIVE UP ♪

1612
01:18:05,868 --> 01:18:12,200
♪ REMEMBER YOU'RE NOT ALONE ♪

1613
01:18:12,234 --> 01:18:13,701
♪ NOW, DON'T GIVE UP ♪

1614
01:18:13,734 --> 01:18:20,501
♪ ON THE BRINK
OF A MIRACLE ♪

1615
01:18:20,534 --> 01:18:21,767
♪ DON'T GIVE IN ♪

1616
01:18:21,801 --> 01:18:28,167
♪ REMEMBER YOU'RE NOT ALONE ♪

1617
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,200
♪ OH, DON'T GIVE IN ♪

1618
01:18:30,234 --> 01:18:37,234
♪ REMEMBER YOU'RE NOT ALONE ♪

1619
01:18:38,067 --> 01:18:40,467
♪ YOU'RE NOT ALONE! ♪

1620
01:18:40,501 --> 01:18:42,501
COME ON, PEOPLE,
DON'T YOU DARE GIVE UP!