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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,789 --> 00:00:12,580 Were you afraid... because you thought that he might kill you? 2 00:00:16,706 --> 00:00:18,038 We oppose bail. 3 00:00:18,122 --> 00:00:20,247 Ten-million bond and two-million cash. 4 00:00:20,622 --> 00:00:22,997 Whatever my faults, my transgressions, 5 00:00:23,539 --> 00:00:24,831 my love for you... 6 00:00:25,497 --> 00:00:26,622 You have a daughter. 7 00:00:27,622 --> 00:00:30,038 Is your wife being treated for a psychological disorder? 8 00:00:30,122 --> 00:00:31,997 Be very careful, Dr. Fraser. 9 00:00:32,288 --> 00:00:34,288 You need to hire your own attorney. 10 00:00:34,622 --> 00:00:37,142 The police will wanna secure your cooperation. 11 00:00:37,956 --> 00:00:39,916 I get a feeling your daughter is hiding something. 12 00:00:39,956 --> 00:00:42,414 There was an active camera a block away from the scene. 13 00:00:42,831 --> 00:00:43,872 What is this? 14 00:00:44,163 --> 00:00:47,122 The only people of relevance in the area, around the time, 15 00:00:47,205 --> 00:00:48,706 are you and your husband. 16 00:00:49,205 --> 00:00:51,539 You mentioned Haley Fitzgerald. 17 00:00:52,414 --> 00:00:55,163 People hire me to create muck. 18 00:00:55,372 --> 00:00:57,831 That's what I can give you and your husband. 19 00:00:59,330 --> 00:01:00,414 Muck. 20 00:03:20,956 --> 00:03:23,205 I was on one of my walks. 21 00:03:23,288 --> 00:03:25,122 One of your walks. 22 00:03:27,497 --> 00:03:28,580 Yes. 23 00:03:28,664 --> 00:03:30,122 One of my walks. That's what I do. 24 00:03:30,205 --> 00:03:32,038 That's how I ground myself. I walk. 25 00:03:32,122 --> 00:03:35,080 Is that really so difficult to comprehend? 26 00:03:35,163 --> 00:03:37,247 That you happened to ground yourself 27 00:03:37,330 --> 00:03:38,539 by walking within footsteps 28 00:03:38,622 --> 00:03:41,288 of your husband's bludgeoned-to-death lover. 29 00:03:41,997 --> 00:03:44,080 Yeah, it bumps me. 30 00:03:44,163 --> 00:03:46,038 I'm not saying it's bad. 31 00:03:47,664 --> 00:03:50,288 Perhaps I could suggest that you killed her? 32 00:03:50,372 --> 00:03:51,372 Did you? 33 00:03:51,455 --> 00:03:53,122 Are you making a joke? 34 00:03:54,372 --> 00:03:56,706 I don't make jokes. I'm not funny. 35 00:03:58,122 --> 00:04:00,580 Luckily for you, not Jonathan... 36 00:04:00,664 --> 00:04:04,247 The police have more images of you grounding yourself, 37 00:04:04,330 --> 00:04:07,539 walking, after the time of death. 38 00:04:07,622 --> 00:04:11,080 You're no longer on their radar as a suspect. 39 00:04:11,163 --> 00:04:13,372 But they still think you're withholding. 40 00:04:13,956 --> 00:04:15,372 Why? 41 00:04:15,455 --> 00:04:17,163 Because it's what rich, 42 00:04:17,247 --> 00:04:19,997 entitled people do when threatened. 43 00:04:20,872 --> 00:04:23,247 They conceal the ugly truths, 44 00:04:23,330 --> 00:04:24,789 to protect themselves, 45 00:04:24,872 --> 00:04:27,622 their family units, their places in society. 46 00:04:27,706 --> 00:04:29,622 Their public image. 47 00:04:29,706 --> 00:04:31,455 And they think they can get away with it, 48 00:04:31,539 --> 00:04:33,664 because they're rich. 49 00:04:35,872 --> 00:04:39,163 I'm not withholding. Whether you are or not... 50 00:04:39,247 --> 00:04:40,914 Eyes here, please. 51 00:04:40,997 --> 00:04:43,997 Don't do it with me. Ever. 52 00:04:47,205 --> 00:04:49,497 Anything else? 53 00:04:49,580 --> 00:04:51,247 Apart from your grounding walkabout. 54 00:04:51,330 --> 00:04:52,831 Any more secrets? 55 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,372 No. 56 00:05:01,122 --> 00:05:03,247 Tell me more about Elena's husband. 57 00:05:03,330 --> 00:05:05,497 You said that he struck you as volatile. 58 00:05:05,580 --> 00:05:06,706 Very. 59 00:05:08,372 --> 00:05:10,914 How very? Just... very. 60 00:05:13,664 --> 00:05:16,414 That's not terribly specific. 61 00:05:16,497 --> 00:05:18,747 Are we talking about something more than that? 62 00:05:20,497 --> 00:05:21,914 Come on. 63 00:05:23,247 --> 00:05:27,831 Give it the old trained clinical psychologist try. 64 00:05:27,914 --> 00:05:29,372 Why are you testing me? 65 00:05:29,455 --> 00:05:32,288 Because this case may come down to you. 66 00:05:32,372 --> 00:05:34,664 And before I put you on the stand, 67 00:05:34,747 --> 00:05:37,163 I have to kick the tires. 68 00:05:37,247 --> 00:05:38,914 On the stand? 69 00:05:40,163 --> 00:05:42,122 No. 70 00:05:43,706 --> 00:05:45,080 No. 71 00:05:48,706 --> 00:05:50,455 I'm not going on the stand. 72 00:06:05,789 --> 00:06:07,497 You see Haley? 73 00:06:11,455 --> 00:06:13,789 I don't like her. 74 00:06:13,872 --> 00:06:15,997 So what? 75 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,330 You're not paying her to be your friend, Grace. 76 00:06:18,414 --> 00:06:20,288 Lawyers are like car mechanics. 77 00:06:20,372 --> 00:06:22,539 You pay them to fix your problems. 78 00:06:23,622 --> 00:06:25,997 For bedside manner, I always have you. 79 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,539 Oh, so now I'm the enemy. 80 00:06:27,622 --> 00:06:30,247 No, I didn't say that. 81 00:06:30,330 --> 00:06:33,080 Can I get something for you, miss? Oh, no, thank you, Irma. 82 00:06:33,163 --> 00:06:34,789 I'm fine. I'm not hungry. 83 00:06:36,497 --> 00:06:37,706 So what are you saying? 84 00:06:37,789 --> 00:06:40,122 I just need a little unconditional support 85 00:06:40,205 --> 00:06:43,247 from my loving father right now. That would be... 86 00:06:43,330 --> 00:06:44,956 That would be nice. 87 00:07:20,580 --> 00:07:23,247 Well, thank you so much for doing this. 88 00:07:25,038 --> 00:07:26,914 I'm doing it for Franklin. 89 00:07:26,997 --> 00:07:29,622 How'd you get that bruise on your face? 90 00:07:29,706 --> 00:07:32,288 I was attacked by a... 91 00:07:32,372 --> 00:07:35,372 a... one of my friends here. 92 00:07:35,997 --> 00:07:37,247 And you bit him. 93 00:07:37,330 --> 00:07:38,247 I did, yes. 94 00:07:38,330 --> 00:07:40,330 Somewhere amidst the pile-on, 95 00:07:40,414 --> 00:07:42,706 when half the prison joined in the fun. 96 00:07:43,914 --> 00:07:45,372 Self-defense, you know. 97 00:07:48,414 --> 00:07:51,122 Don't bite anybody else. 98 00:07:51,205 --> 00:07:52,580 Okay, I need to get you out. 99 00:07:52,664 --> 00:07:54,247 I can better start shaping the narrative 100 00:07:54,330 --> 00:07:55,580 with you as a quasi-free man. 101 00:07:55,664 --> 00:07:58,831 The bail is two million. I'm guessing you don't have that. 102 00:07:58,914 --> 00:08:01,080 I don't. No. What about family? 103 00:08:01,163 --> 00:08:02,956 Parents? Siblings? Favorite uncle? 104 00:08:03,038 --> 00:08:05,330 Well, I, I'm estranged from my family. 105 00:08:05,414 --> 00:08:06,789 Why is that? 106 00:08:10,163 --> 00:08:11,747 Is it important? 107 00:08:12,747 --> 00:08:14,580 It is. 108 00:08:14,664 --> 00:08:17,789 Especially since you seem to be estranged from everybody. 109 00:08:19,872 --> 00:08:21,789 Well, I haven't really spoken to my family 110 00:08:21,872 --> 00:08:23,956 since I left for college. Um... 111 00:08:24,038 --> 00:08:26,455 They would lack the means, 112 00:08:26,539 --> 00:08:31,122 as well as the inclination, to help with bail. 113 00:08:34,455 --> 00:08:36,622 Are there any more Elenas out there? 114 00:08:37,622 --> 00:08:39,622 Mm. 115 00:08:39,706 --> 00:08:41,360 Other women you've been involved with 116 00:08:41,372 --> 00:08:43,122 during the course of your marriage. 117 00:08:45,872 --> 00:08:48,038 I will find out. 118 00:08:48,122 --> 00:08:50,122 And you might as well tell me now. 119 00:08:50,205 --> 00:08:52,122 Were there any others? 120 00:08:54,455 --> 00:08:55,914 There was one. 121 00:08:59,789 --> 00:09:02,080 Uh, just a one-off years ago. 122 00:09:03,455 --> 00:09:05,789 I'd lost a patient, and I was, uh, 123 00:09:05,872 --> 00:09:08,038 you know, in a mess. I was distraught, and... 124 00:09:08,956 --> 00:09:10,997 And you had a lapse. 125 00:09:12,539 --> 00:09:13,664 Yeah. 126 00:09:14,664 --> 00:09:16,080 And how many others? 127 00:09:16,163 --> 00:09:17,747 No, like I said, just the one. 128 00:09:17,831 --> 00:09:19,956 Are you gonna be able to defend me, 129 00:09:20,038 --> 00:09:21,163 Haley, or not? 130 00:09:21,247 --> 00:09:24,372 I'll be able to defend you best if I'm not surprised. 131 00:09:24,455 --> 00:09:26,956 Well, there was no one else, apart from Elena. 132 00:09:28,205 --> 00:09:31,497 Elena, and the one where you were distraught. 133 00:09:33,831 --> 00:09:34,997 The sad fuck. 134 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,706 Is that supposed to be funny? 135 00:09:38,664 --> 00:09:40,414 I'm not funny. 136 00:09:40,497 --> 00:09:42,288 I'll need her name. 137 00:10:05,372 --> 00:10:08,038 Thank you for coming. My pleasure. 138 00:10:09,288 --> 00:10:10,497 Uh... 139 00:10:14,747 --> 00:10:18,080 I'm kind of a glutton for punishment. 140 00:10:19,163 --> 00:10:20,872 This thing... 141 00:10:20,956 --> 00:10:23,956 It's like the trial of a lifetime. 142 00:10:24,038 --> 00:10:27,122 So the opportunity for me to relive losing it... 143 00:10:27,205 --> 00:10:30,038 I'm sorry. Um... I'm, I'm kidding. 144 00:10:31,622 --> 00:10:33,622 You know, if it was somebody I loved 145 00:10:33,706 --> 00:10:35,372 whose ass was on the line, I'd... 146 00:10:35,455 --> 00:10:38,580 I'd be wanting Haley Fitzgerald instead of me, too. 147 00:10:39,914 --> 00:10:41,080 So... 148 00:10:44,831 --> 00:10:47,247 Do you think that he might be innocent? 149 00:10:48,831 --> 00:10:49,997 Jonathan. 150 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,914 That's what you wanted to ask me? 151 00:10:51,997 --> 00:10:55,580 There's something to be said for objectivity, so I just... 152 00:10:56,372 --> 00:10:58,914 My gut instinct is "yes." 153 00:11:00,497 --> 00:11:02,539 He could be innocent. 154 00:11:02,622 --> 00:11:04,664 You know, brain's connected to the gut. 155 00:11:04,747 --> 00:11:06,580 They got scientific evidence of that now. 156 00:11:06,664 --> 00:11:09,455 You know that, of course, you being a shrink and all. Yeah. 157 00:11:09,539 --> 00:11:11,872 I still think he's a dick. 158 00:11:13,288 --> 00:11:15,455 Just not one who'd commit murder. 159 00:11:44,789 --> 00:11:48,372 Haley feels that it's important that he gets out on a bail. 160 00:11:48,455 --> 00:11:50,789 She feels it would present him to a potential jury pool 161 00:11:50,872 --> 00:11:53,694 in a more favorable light, and he'll be able to contribute to his defense 162 00:11:53,706 --> 00:11:55,706 in a more meaningful way. 163 00:11:57,914 --> 00:12:01,163 I assume this is when your loving father 164 00:12:01,247 --> 00:12:05,664 gives his unconditional support a test drive? 165 00:12:07,163 --> 00:12:10,330 Are you all planning to live together like a family again? 166 00:12:10,414 --> 00:12:12,163 No. No. Okay. 167 00:12:12,247 --> 00:12:15,205 Jonathan will live in the apartment, and, and... 168 00:12:18,163 --> 00:12:20,288 Henry and I will continue to live with you, 169 00:12:20,372 --> 00:12:21,997 if that's okay. 170 00:12:28,372 --> 00:12:30,288 Mark. Sir. 171 00:12:31,580 --> 00:12:33,122 Good day, sir. 172 00:12:43,414 --> 00:12:45,038 Thank you, Robert. 173 00:13:00,330 --> 00:13:01,664 Move it! 174 00:13:01,747 --> 00:13:03,831 Let's go! 175 00:13:04,747 --> 00:13:07,205 Move it! Let's go! 176 00:13:36,455 --> 00:13:39,205 Well, I can't imagine what you must think of me. 177 00:13:42,247 --> 00:13:43,706 I cer... I certainly understand 178 00:13:43,789 --> 00:13:45,914 why you would not feel comfortable 179 00:13:45,997 --> 00:13:47,664 putting up my bail. 180 00:13:47,747 --> 00:13:49,330 But, uh... Stop. 181 00:13:49,414 --> 00:13:51,747 I'm not here for your understanding. 182 00:13:53,372 --> 00:13:54,831 I'm here to look at you. 183 00:13:54,914 --> 00:13:58,372 I'm here to make sure that you understand me. 184 00:14:00,455 --> 00:14:02,455 I think you're guilty. 185 00:14:03,580 --> 00:14:07,205 I believe you killed that woman. 186 00:14:07,288 --> 00:14:12,247 Grace... makes room for the possibility that you did not. 187 00:14:13,914 --> 00:14:18,455 And perhaps because she so rarely asks for my help, 188 00:14:20,455 --> 00:14:23,539 I find myself... 189 00:14:23,622 --> 00:14:25,997 ill-equipped to refuse it. 190 00:14:27,622 --> 00:14:29,872 But should you run, 191 00:14:29,956 --> 00:14:33,872 should you do anything to further harm my daughter, 192 00:14:33,956 --> 00:14:35,747 my grandson, 193 00:14:36,831 --> 00:14:39,163 I will track you down. 194 00:14:40,497 --> 00:14:43,997 And I will kill you, myself. 195 00:14:52,455 --> 00:14:54,497 Thank you. 196 00:14:54,580 --> 00:14:56,247 I'll make good with your daughter. 197 00:14:56,330 --> 00:14:57,580 With Henry. 198 00:14:57,664 --> 00:14:59,664 And I will make good with you. 199 00:15:04,247 --> 00:15:05,622 I'm done here. 200 00:15:12,330 --> 00:15:14,997 Get up. Let's go. 201 00:15:40,831 --> 00:15:43,288 Please make a path. 202 00:15:43,372 --> 00:15:45,706 I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say this, 203 00:15:45,789 --> 00:15:48,789 and then I, I would be g-grateful if you would leave us alone. 204 00:15:48,872 --> 00:15:51,330 I'm obviously very happy to be out, 205 00:15:51,414 --> 00:15:52,789 and beyond that, 206 00:15:52,872 --> 00:15:55,497 I look forward to clearing my name in court, 207 00:15:55,580 --> 00:15:57,622 and proving that I'm innocent of this crime. 208 00:15:57,706 --> 00:16:00,414 Thank you very much. There will be no more questions. 209 00:16:06,956 --> 00:16:08,205 Thanks, Hugh. 210 00:16:09,288 --> 00:16:10,539 Sorry. 211 00:16:12,497 --> 00:16:14,414 Sorry. 212 00:16:16,122 --> 00:16:17,247 Hi. 213 00:16:19,122 --> 00:16:20,956 Hi. 214 00:16:22,455 --> 00:16:24,205 I'm, I'm sorry. 215 00:16:33,372 --> 00:16:35,080 You're not in trouble, Henry. 216 00:16:37,414 --> 00:16:39,831 Then why am I here? 217 00:16:39,914 --> 00:16:42,163 I would just like to know what was said. 218 00:16:42,247 --> 00:16:43,330 What was said? 219 00:16:43,414 --> 00:16:44,902 I would just like to know what was said 220 00:16:44,914 --> 00:16:46,706 between you and Miguel Alves. 221 00:16:48,163 --> 00:16:50,080 "Hi," was said. 222 00:16:50,163 --> 00:16:51,914 By me. 223 00:16:51,997 --> 00:16:54,205 Miguel didn't say anything. 224 00:16:54,288 --> 00:16:55,956 You just said "hi"? 225 00:16:56,831 --> 00:16:58,747 Well, after I said "sorry." 226 00:16:58,831 --> 00:17:01,455 You said "sorry" to Miguel. 227 00:17:01,539 --> 00:17:04,288 Yes. And what were you sorry for? 228 00:17:08,622 --> 00:17:10,831 I bumped into him by accident. 229 00:17:10,914 --> 00:17:14,080 So I said "sorry." It's one of the five C's: 230 00:17:14,163 --> 00:17:15,997 Character, courage, conscience, 231 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,497 charity, and courtesy. 232 00:17:17,580 --> 00:17:19,831 I said "sorry" out of courtesy. 233 00:17:39,163 --> 00:17:40,330 Huh. 234 00:17:43,831 --> 00:17:45,497 Thank you. 235 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,330 I already regret it. 236 00:17:51,497 --> 00:17:52,914 I'm, I'm, I'm, 237 00:17:52,997 --> 00:17:54,706 I'm not going to play the role 238 00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:57,872 of brokering you back together again, you know. 239 00:17:57,956 --> 00:17:59,330 I'm not. 240 00:18:00,414 --> 00:18:02,622 You never liked him. 241 00:18:02,706 --> 00:18:04,247 No. 242 00:18:04,330 --> 00:18:05,789 No, I never did. 243 00:18:08,414 --> 00:18:11,956 Jonathan upset me in a profound way 244 00:18:12,038 --> 00:18:13,789 the minute I first set eyes on him. 245 00:18:13,872 --> 00:18:17,122 I did ask you what it was you loved about him. 246 00:18:17,205 --> 00:18:21,455 I asked you whether he seemed so perfect for you 247 00:18:21,539 --> 00:18:23,288 because you had explained to him 248 00:18:23,372 --> 00:18:25,789 exactly what "perfect for you" meant. 249 00:18:25,872 --> 00:18:28,539 And he was just giving back what you wanted. 250 00:18:36,205 --> 00:18:39,163 I know you're angry. 251 00:18:39,247 --> 00:18:42,747 I'm furious. I'm furious with myself, Grace. 252 00:18:43,831 --> 00:18:45,872 For not putting up a fight. 253 00:18:46,747 --> 00:18:47,997 God. 254 00:18:52,372 --> 00:18:54,747 They wanna kick Henry out of school. 255 00:18:55,539 --> 00:18:56,580 What? 256 00:18:58,747 --> 00:18:59,831 Yeah. 257 00:18:59,914 --> 00:19:01,664 Yeah. 258 00:19:01,747 --> 00:19:03,997 They want him to be homeschooled 259 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,831 until all of this is over. 260 00:19:05,914 --> 00:19:07,330 Excuse me. 261 00:19:07,414 --> 00:19:09,956 The police are back. 262 00:19:12,247 --> 00:19:13,997 We hate to be such a nuisance. 263 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,038 But you continue to be. 264 00:19:16,122 --> 00:19:18,872 Far be it from us to give you advice, Doctor, but... Then don't. 265 00:19:18,956 --> 00:19:20,985 But are we to understand you've allowed your husband 266 00:19:20,997 --> 00:19:23,497 back into your home? 267 00:19:23,580 --> 00:19:26,664 My personal life is none of your business. 268 00:19:26,747 --> 00:19:28,267 Why would you think that? Hmm? 269 00:19:28,330 --> 00:19:29,706 Your personal life, 270 00:19:29,789 --> 00:19:31,622 your husband's personal life, 271 00:19:31,706 --> 00:19:33,580 is our primary business of late. 272 00:19:34,497 --> 00:19:36,038 What do you want? 273 00:19:36,122 --> 00:19:39,038 Can you, can you sit for a second? No. I would prefer to stand. 274 00:19:39,122 --> 00:19:42,163 How well did you know Elena Alves? 275 00:19:42,247 --> 00:19:45,580 Are we back to that? She called you. 276 00:19:45,664 --> 00:19:48,080 Many times, in the days before her death. 277 00:19:48,163 --> 00:19:51,080 It's right there on her phone. Your cell number. 278 00:19:53,622 --> 00:19:55,414 Nothing to say? 279 00:19:59,497 --> 00:20:01,706 I never, ever spoke to Elena Alves. 280 00:20:01,789 --> 00:20:03,247 Not on my cell phone. 281 00:20:03,330 --> 00:20:05,330 Not on any other phone. 282 00:20:05,414 --> 00:20:07,038 Yeah, that's true. 283 00:20:07,122 --> 00:20:10,914 Her phone shows that those calls were never answered. 284 00:20:10,997 --> 00:20:12,455 Because you never picked up. 285 00:20:12,539 --> 00:20:13,914 Why are you fucking with me? 286 00:20:13,997 --> 00:20:15,580 Did you know it was her? No. 287 00:20:15,664 --> 00:20:18,455 Because I don't pick up a number when I don't recognize it. 288 00:20:18,539 --> 00:20:21,622 I assume that it's a telemarketer. I'd... Mm. 289 00:20:21,706 --> 00:20:23,414 All right. Fine. 290 00:20:23,497 --> 00:20:27,288 If you think maybe I was the one that killed her, great. 291 00:20:27,372 --> 00:20:28,914 Be sure to testify to that. 292 00:20:28,997 --> 00:20:30,997 We're just trying to get all the information. 293 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,872 Including, but not limited to, 294 00:20:32,956 --> 00:20:35,288 your relationship with the victim. I had... 295 00:20:35,372 --> 00:20:37,372 - no relationship with her. - Mm-hmm. 296 00:20:37,455 --> 00:20:40,038 Other than I was on a committee with her. 297 00:20:40,122 --> 00:20:42,330 And I walked... Evening, miss. 298 00:20:42,414 --> 00:20:44,580 Good evening, Alan. 299 00:20:44,664 --> 00:20:46,455 And I unwittingly 300 00:20:46,539 --> 00:20:48,914 walked within a block of her apartment 301 00:20:48,997 --> 00:20:50,539 the night that she was killed. 302 00:20:50,622 --> 00:20:52,539 You know she was an artist, right? 303 00:20:52,622 --> 00:20:54,664 A sculptor. Painter. 304 00:20:55,997 --> 00:20:57,664 It was on the news. 305 00:20:57,747 --> 00:21:00,831 - You never knew it before. - So you never, uh... 306 00:21:00,914 --> 00:21:02,956 ...posed for her? 307 00:21:03,038 --> 00:21:04,330 Oh, fuck you. What? 308 00:21:04,414 --> 00:21:06,414 We found something in her basement storage. 309 00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:10,163 I don't... 310 00:21:10,247 --> 00:21:12,205 It's an oil portrait. 311 00:21:19,997 --> 00:21:22,205 I would say she captured you... 312 00:21:23,372 --> 00:21:24,789 rather well. 313 00:21:24,872 --> 00:21:26,539 Don't you think? 314 00:21:39,580 --> 00:21:40,789 Did you know? 315 00:21:40,872 --> 00:21:42,872 No, no. No, I had no idea. 316 00:21:42,956 --> 00:21:44,163 You mean, like a portrait? 317 00:21:44,247 --> 00:21:46,622 - Yes! A portrait. - Christ. 318 00:21:46,706 --> 00:21:49,247 And exceptionally detailed. 319 00:21:50,872 --> 00:21:54,497 Well, I knew she was obsessed, but, uh... 320 00:21:54,580 --> 00:21:56,914 What are the police making of it? 321 00:21:58,414 --> 00:21:59,622 I don't know. 322 00:21:59,706 --> 00:22:01,539 Or they're not saying. They're just... 323 00:22:01,622 --> 00:22:05,080 asking more questions and I don't have the answers. 324 00:22:07,414 --> 00:22:09,664 We'll get through this. 325 00:22:09,747 --> 00:22:11,288 We'll get through this somehow. 326 00:22:11,372 --> 00:22:13,622 Jonathan, stop. We will. We will. We will. 327 00:22:13,706 --> 00:22:15,956 We're not in this together. 328 00:22:16,038 --> 00:22:17,288 We're not. 329 00:22:17,372 --> 00:22:19,163 You stand accused of a crime 330 00:22:19,247 --> 00:22:21,831 that maybe you did, maybe you didn't do. 331 00:22:21,914 --> 00:22:23,539 And I'm gonna play the role. 332 00:22:23,622 --> 00:22:25,789 The assigned role of the wife. 333 00:22:27,122 --> 00:22:28,580 And that's it. 334 00:22:34,330 --> 00:22:37,872 Well, then, I'll just pray that I... make my way back to you. 335 00:22:37,956 --> 00:22:40,706 You know, what we had, you and I, was... 336 00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:42,872 It's too big to undo just like that. 337 00:22:42,956 --> 00:22:46,080 I didn't... But you did. You managed to undo it, didn't you? 338 00:22:57,831 --> 00:22:59,914 Whatever I feel for you, 339 00:22:59,997 --> 00:23:02,038 it doesn't matter, because my mind 340 00:23:02,122 --> 00:23:03,831 is stronger than my heart. 341 00:23:05,122 --> 00:23:06,580 You know that about me. 342 00:23:06,664 --> 00:23:09,288 And while you may not be a murderer, you're... 343 00:23:11,163 --> 00:23:12,872 You're not my husband. 344 00:23:14,038 --> 00:23:15,872 You'll never be my husband. 345 00:23:19,747 --> 00:23:20,914 Come on. 346 00:23:20,997 --> 00:23:22,247 Come here. 347 00:23:22,330 --> 00:23:23,914 Come here. Come on. 348 00:23:23,997 --> 00:23:25,455 Come on. 349 00:23:25,539 --> 00:23:28,330 It's me. It's me. It's me. 350 00:23:28,414 --> 00:23:30,706 It's me. It's me. Why would you... 351 00:23:33,288 --> 00:23:34,539 I can't. 352 00:23:34,622 --> 00:23:37,414 It's me. Stop it. Please stop. 353 00:23:37,497 --> 00:23:41,455 Stop. Just stop it. Stop it now. 354 00:23:41,539 --> 00:23:43,706 No. No. 355 00:23:46,163 --> 00:23:47,664 No. 356 00:23:48,789 --> 00:23:50,038 Come on. 357 00:23:56,205 --> 00:23:57,685 The bail, you will recall, 358 00:23:57,747 --> 00:24:00,372 was set at ten million bond, two million cash, 359 00:24:00,455 --> 00:24:03,288 a number Dr. Fraser has presumably met. 360 00:24:03,372 --> 00:24:04,956 It is white privilege. 361 00:24:05,038 --> 00:24:06,622 You think that if it was the husband, 362 00:24:06,706 --> 00:24:09,038 or any black man, that he would have been granted bail? 363 00:24:09,122 --> 00:24:11,706 This was a vicious murder. 364 00:24:11,789 --> 00:24:14,038 The woman's head was nearly liquefied. 365 00:24:14,122 --> 00:24:16,288 He's not a threat to society? 366 00:24:16,372 --> 00:24:17,747 It's obscene. 367 00:24:28,622 --> 00:24:29,914 Franklin. 368 00:24:29,997 --> 00:24:31,872 Hi, dear. Aah. 369 00:24:31,956 --> 00:24:33,122 Hi. Hi. 370 00:24:34,122 --> 00:24:35,497 Hi. Come say hello. Hi. 371 00:24:35,580 --> 00:24:37,163 Hello. How are you? You run off. 372 00:24:37,247 --> 00:24:38,276 Good. Tell them I'm sorry. 373 00:24:38,288 --> 00:24:39,808 Tell Miss Hatsy it's my fault. Bye. 374 00:24:39,831 --> 00:24:41,288 I've told Grace a thousand times, 375 00:24:41,372 --> 00:24:43,831 but if there's anything I can do. 376 00:24:43,914 --> 00:24:47,455 You're a dear, dear girl and she knows it. So do I. 377 00:24:47,539 --> 00:24:48,831 How is she? 378 00:24:48,914 --> 00:24:52,747 Just... She's always so... stoic. How is she, really? 379 00:24:54,497 --> 00:24:55,789 Really? 380 00:24:57,247 --> 00:25:00,455 I don't know. I don't know whether I ever knew. 381 00:25:00,539 --> 00:25:04,247 Ah. She's just Grace being Grace. 382 00:25:04,330 --> 00:25:06,414 My date has just appeared. 383 00:25:08,455 --> 00:25:09,956 You have fun. 384 00:25:10,038 --> 00:25:11,622 Oh, I intend to. 385 00:25:13,747 --> 00:25:15,372 He didn't do anything wrong. 386 00:25:15,455 --> 00:25:16,789 Why homeschool him, then? 387 00:25:16,872 --> 00:25:18,872 Well, we just feel it would be in the best interest 388 00:25:18,956 --> 00:25:22,539 of everyone, if Henry, for the time being... Why? 389 00:25:22,622 --> 00:25:24,539 With the trial approaching, 390 00:25:24,622 --> 00:25:27,122 the distraction serves no one. 391 00:25:27,205 --> 00:25:28,747 You told my daughter 392 00:25:28,831 --> 00:25:31,288 that Reardon would be there for Henry. 393 00:25:31,372 --> 00:25:33,288 That the community was... 394 00:25:33,372 --> 00:25:35,038 steadfast. I did, but... 395 00:25:35,122 --> 00:25:37,580 Henry's life has been ripped apart. 396 00:25:37,664 --> 00:25:40,080 If ever an overpriced, self-important, 397 00:25:40,163 --> 00:25:42,997 full-of-shit school needed to step up... 398 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,789 This is coming from the board. 399 00:25:45,872 --> 00:25:48,497 They feel we need to create distance 400 00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:51,497 between Reardon and all the ugliness. 401 00:25:51,580 --> 00:25:54,247 I cannot exalt your grandson's needs 402 00:25:54,330 --> 00:25:56,914 at the expense of the school's writ large. 403 00:25:56,997 --> 00:25:58,163 Well, I can. 404 00:25:58,247 --> 00:26:01,622 I've given a lot of money to this school, Mr. Connaver. 405 00:26:01,706 --> 00:26:05,664 And I've always considered it a privilege to be able to do so. 406 00:26:06,831 --> 00:26:08,706 But make no mistake. 407 00:26:10,122 --> 00:26:11,664 I am a cocksucker. 408 00:26:11,747 --> 00:26:14,580 And I don't mean that in the sense of 409 00:26:14,664 --> 00:26:15,789 gay belittlement, 410 00:26:15,872 --> 00:26:18,288 as it's currently come to be interpreted. 411 00:26:19,372 --> 00:26:20,747 No. 412 00:26:20,831 --> 00:26:24,038 I'm an old-fashioned cocksucker. 413 00:26:24,122 --> 00:26:26,539 The more traditional kind. 414 00:26:26,622 --> 00:26:30,497 The kind who fucks over anyone who hurts me, 415 00:26:30,580 --> 00:26:32,414 or a loved one. 416 00:26:34,038 --> 00:26:37,539 You speak of ugliness, Mr. Connaver. 417 00:26:39,247 --> 00:26:44,163 You have not yet met ugliness. 418 00:27:22,664 --> 00:27:23,914 Please. 419 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,664 Hi. Hey, honey. Hey. 420 00:30:14,747 --> 00:30:16,914 It's all right. Are you okay? 421 00:30:16,997 --> 00:30:19,455 Fine. I promise. 422 00:30:21,580 --> 00:30:24,330 - Wh-what happened? - I don't know. 423 00:30:24,414 --> 00:30:27,038 I was... I was walking in the park, 424 00:30:27,122 --> 00:30:29,080 and I got lightheaded and then... 425 00:30:30,706 --> 00:30:32,622 Think I just went numb. 426 00:30:42,497 --> 00:30:44,372 Hey. Hi. 427 00:30:44,455 --> 00:30:46,038 Hey. 428 00:30:46,122 --> 00:30:47,956 Jonathan. 429 00:30:48,038 --> 00:30:50,664 Are you okay? 430 00:30:50,747 --> 00:30:54,122 I'm fine. It was probably just a bit of a panic attack, 431 00:30:54,205 --> 00:30:57,247 and then s... stress. 432 00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:59,997 Yeah. 433 00:31:01,997 --> 00:31:03,997 - Hey, buddy. Hey. - Hi. 434 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,288 How you doing? You alright? Yeah. 435 00:31:11,956 --> 00:31:14,288 So what are the doctors saying? 436 00:31:14,372 --> 00:31:17,831 Um, they're just saying that it was stress-induced, 437 00:31:17,914 --> 00:31:20,872 and that I'm gonna be discharged, so... 438 00:31:20,956 --> 00:31:22,556 All right. So, eyes open. Jonathan... 439 00:31:22,622 --> 00:31:25,122 please don't. Eyes open. Eyes open, please. Please. 440 00:31:26,330 --> 00:31:27,789 Jonathan, come on. 441 00:31:27,872 --> 00:31:31,455 Please don't do this. And open, open, open. Open, please. 442 00:31:33,997 --> 00:31:36,330 Can you track my finger? 443 00:31:38,122 --> 00:31:41,080 - And touch my finger. Come on. - Oh, please. Really? 444 00:31:41,163 --> 00:31:42,622 Do it. 445 00:31:44,706 --> 00:31:46,831 Yeah. And now your nose. 446 00:31:47,497 --> 00:31:49,580 And, uh, finger. 447 00:31:49,664 --> 00:31:52,455 And now nose. I think you're okay. 448 00:31:54,747 --> 00:31:56,455 I think you're okay. 449 00:31:59,163 --> 00:32:02,288 Yeah. When can I get out? 450 00:32:09,539 --> 00:32:12,122 Jesus. So what was it? 451 00:32:12,205 --> 00:32:14,247 - I - don't know. They say, uh, 452 00:32:14,330 --> 00:32:16,539 they say it was just an anxiety attack. 453 00:32:16,622 --> 00:32:18,622 Anxiety. 454 00:32:18,706 --> 00:32:20,288 Why on Earth would you have anxiety? 455 00:32:20,372 --> 00:32:21,997 Is something going on in your life? 456 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,789 You're funny. 457 00:32:23,872 --> 00:32:25,288 Why don't you come over to the house 458 00:32:25,372 --> 00:32:27,163 one night this week and we can have a, 459 00:32:27,247 --> 00:32:30,122 I don't know, a boozy sleepover. Just you and me. 460 00:32:32,706 --> 00:32:34,330 Yeah, that sounds fun. 461 00:32:34,414 --> 00:32:36,038 You okay? 462 00:32:37,038 --> 00:32:38,664 You really okay? 463 00:32:38,747 --> 00:32:41,330 Mm-hmm. I'm fine, I promise. 464 00:32:42,956 --> 00:32:44,706 I'm thinking of you. 465 00:32:45,539 --> 00:32:47,038 Okay. Bye. 466 00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:22,831 May I come in? 467 00:33:22,914 --> 00:33:24,747 Yeah, sure. 468 00:33:29,414 --> 00:33:31,872 It's a wonderful instrument, the violin. 469 00:33:31,956 --> 00:33:34,914 Yeah. I, I like it. 470 00:33:36,038 --> 00:33:38,372 Most kids at Reardon want to play the drums, 471 00:33:38,455 --> 00:33:41,080 and the bass, and the guitar, and... 472 00:33:41,163 --> 00:33:43,205 I, I like the violin. 473 00:33:43,288 --> 00:33:45,122 'C-cause it's different. 474 00:33:45,747 --> 00:33:47,414 Mm-hmm. 475 00:33:49,831 --> 00:33:52,914 I heard you left your footprint on Connaver's head. 476 00:33:54,455 --> 00:33:55,622 Hmm. 477 00:33:57,414 --> 00:33:58,997 He's a putz. 478 00:34:46,455 --> 00:34:47,997 Well, hello. 479 00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:53,163 Can I come in, please? 480 00:34:56,247 --> 00:34:57,414 Please. 481 00:35:02,622 --> 00:35:03,872 Thank you. 482 00:35:09,205 --> 00:35:11,122 Miguel. Hey. 483 00:35:11,205 --> 00:35:13,122 Hey. 484 00:35:13,205 --> 00:35:15,205 Oh, you look well, my friend. Yeah? 485 00:35:16,163 --> 00:35:17,664 Leave him alone. 486 00:35:17,747 --> 00:35:19,414 He's my patient, Fernando. 487 00:35:19,497 --> 00:35:20,789 Just get your hands off him. 488 00:35:20,872 --> 00:35:22,872 You look strong. That's great. 489 00:35:23,831 --> 00:35:25,789 I'm so sorry about your mom. 490 00:35:25,872 --> 00:35:28,288 Don't talk to him. I want you to know, 491 00:35:28,372 --> 00:35:32,080 that what happened to your mom, Miguel... 492 00:35:32,163 --> 00:35:35,372 I didn't do it. All right. It's all right. Come on. 493 00:35:35,455 --> 00:35:37,485 Go to your room, Miguel. No, he should know that. 494 00:35:37,497 --> 00:35:39,247 Go to your room. Go to your room. Come on. 495 00:35:39,330 --> 00:35:42,288 Go to your room. He needs to know that, and so do you. 496 00:35:42,372 --> 00:35:44,372 There were lines I crossed. 497 00:35:45,247 --> 00:35:47,038 But I did not take Elena's life. 498 00:35:47,122 --> 00:35:49,122 Get out of my house, now. 499 00:35:49,205 --> 00:35:51,747 I didn't do it, Fernando. I didn't do it. 500 00:35:53,247 --> 00:35:54,914 Go to your room, Miguel. 501 00:35:55,789 --> 00:35:57,122 Now. 502 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,330 Put your headphones on, okay? 503 00:36:00,414 --> 00:36:02,247 Put your headphones on and turn the volume up. 504 00:36:02,330 --> 00:36:04,914 Fernando, I... 505 00:36:04,997 --> 00:36:06,276 I don't mean to seem insensitive, 506 00:36:06,288 --> 00:36:10,205 but desperation has a way of trumping good manners. 507 00:36:10,288 --> 00:36:13,288 With Elena, there was something about her that seemed, uh, 508 00:36:13,372 --> 00:36:15,288 I don't know. That was off. 509 00:36:15,372 --> 00:36:18,872 I need to find out exactly... This is your plan? 510 00:36:18,956 --> 00:36:21,205 This is your fuckin' plan? 511 00:36:21,288 --> 00:36:22,789 To make her seem off? 512 00:36:22,872 --> 00:36:25,580 I know your grief, because I feel your grief. 513 00:36:25,664 --> 00:36:28,956 And I want whoever did this to be caught. 514 00:36:29,038 --> 00:36:30,956 I don't believe you. 515 00:36:31,038 --> 00:36:33,372 Well, you need to believe me. 516 00:36:33,455 --> 00:36:35,038 And at a minimum, believe this. 517 00:36:35,122 --> 00:36:36,831 You need to stay away from my wife. 518 00:36:38,622 --> 00:36:40,580 Like you stayed away from mine? 519 00:36:40,664 --> 00:36:41,997 Huh? 520 00:36:48,664 --> 00:36:50,497 She has to be fed. 521 00:36:57,163 --> 00:37:00,330 Shh, shh, shh, shh. 522 00:37:20,747 --> 00:37:22,205 Would you like to feed her? 523 00:37:22,997 --> 00:37:24,831 Hmm? 524 00:37:24,914 --> 00:37:28,372 Your daughter. Would you like to feed her? 525 00:37:31,330 --> 00:37:34,080 Here. Shh, shh, shh, shh. Here, here, here. 526 00:37:34,163 --> 00:37:36,080 Here, baby. 527 00:37:36,163 --> 00:37:37,539 Daddy's home. 528 00:37:58,539 --> 00:38:00,664 You met her before? 529 00:38:00,747 --> 00:38:02,122 I have, yeah. 530 00:38:02,205 --> 00:38:04,831 You've held her before? 531 00:38:07,414 --> 00:38:08,580 Yeah. 532 00:38:11,038 --> 00:38:12,872 Such a beautiful little girl. 533 00:38:12,956 --> 00:38:16,038 Yeah. That she is. 534 00:38:16,747 --> 00:38:18,414 That she is. 535 00:38:18,497 --> 00:38:21,330 Come here. See you. Let's see you. 536 00:38:21,414 --> 00:38:22,831 Yeah. 537 00:38:22,914 --> 00:38:24,914 - It's difficult to love her. - Yeah. 538 00:38:27,580 --> 00:38:31,163 I have tried really hard, and... 539 00:38:31,247 --> 00:38:33,455 And I will keep trying. 540 00:38:36,706 --> 00:38:38,914 But it's difficult, knowing how... 541 00:38:38,997 --> 00:38:40,580 I could take her. 542 00:38:41,706 --> 00:38:43,247 Would you prefer that? 543 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,997 Are you out of your fucking mind? 544 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,747 I had to warn him off Grace. 545 00:38:51,831 --> 00:38:54,539 And I thought if I appealed to him... He'd what? 546 00:38:54,622 --> 00:38:56,497 Believe you? Forgive you? 547 00:38:56,580 --> 00:38:59,747 You just committed witness tampering. 548 00:38:59,831 --> 00:39:02,205 A condition of your bail is that you stay away... 549 00:39:02,288 --> 00:39:04,455 I did not try and influence him. It doesn't matter. 550 00:39:04,539 --> 00:39:08,330 You actually thought that you might win over the man 551 00:39:08,414 --> 00:39:11,414 whose wife you're accused of savagely killing. 552 00:39:11,497 --> 00:39:12,997 How much fucking charm 553 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,372 do you think you have? I didn't see the harm. I really didn't. 554 00:39:16,455 --> 00:39:17,664 I didn't. 555 00:39:19,706 --> 00:39:21,497 Do you ever? 556 00:39:22,872 --> 00:39:25,163 Fine, I apologize. What's next? 557 00:39:27,831 --> 00:39:30,914 You actually did think you could change his mind, didn't you? 558 00:39:34,163 --> 00:39:36,664 Oh, my God. Of course. 559 00:39:36,747 --> 00:39:39,997 What? Why wouldn't he believe you? 560 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,247 You cast a spell. 561 00:39:43,330 --> 00:39:46,038 You have done it with everyone you've ever met. 562 00:39:47,330 --> 00:39:49,205 With a face like that. 563 00:39:50,664 --> 00:39:53,247 I have a handsome, charismatic client. 564 00:39:53,330 --> 00:39:55,831 Capable of mesmerizing. 565 00:39:59,580 --> 00:40:02,372 We will win this. 566 00:40:02,455 --> 00:40:05,914 We will get the jury to see in you 567 00:40:05,997 --> 00:40:08,997 what you see in you. 568 00:40:11,872 --> 00:40:13,831 What I see in you. 569 00:40:22,747 --> 00:40:23,997 Wow. 570 00:40:26,372 --> 00:40:28,747 How'd I do? Did I pass? 571 00:40:30,580 --> 00:40:32,288 Barely. 572 00:40:32,372 --> 00:40:33,580 So what's the deal? 573 00:40:33,664 --> 00:40:35,276 Are we just gonna play games, here, Haley, 574 00:40:35,288 --> 00:40:36,414 or do you perhaps have a, 575 00:40:36,497 --> 00:40:38,455 a legal strategy for my defense? 576 00:40:38,539 --> 00:40:39,831 I met with the district attorney. 577 00:40:39,914 --> 00:40:41,288 They have a strong case. 578 00:40:41,372 --> 00:40:44,622 The scene of the crime is essentially a shrine to your DNA. 579 00:40:44,706 --> 00:40:47,247 That said, it's still circumstantial. 580 00:40:47,330 --> 00:40:49,944 She didn't offer "heat of passion," but I think I could get her there. 581 00:40:49,956 --> 00:40:52,455 If you are talking about a plea, the answer is no. 582 00:40:52,539 --> 00:40:54,497 Voluntary manslaughter would be a steal. 583 00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:56,205 Yes. For someone who did it. 584 00:40:57,330 --> 00:40:58,622 We lose on murder one or two, 585 00:40:58,706 --> 00:40:59,985 you could spend the rest of your life in jail. 586 00:40:59,997 --> 00:41:02,706 I'm not pleading guilty. Is that clear? 587 00:41:03,539 --> 00:41:05,163 I'm innocent. 588 00:41:05,247 --> 00:41:06,997 I did not fucking do it. 589 00:41:10,372 --> 00:41:12,330 Hi. Thank you very much. 590 00:41:12,414 --> 00:41:14,695 Anything else? No, that's great. Thank you. 591 00:41:14,747 --> 00:41:16,247 Thanks. 592 00:41:31,539 --> 00:41:33,455 We're gonna do a TV interview. 593 00:41:34,664 --> 00:41:36,330 Like it or not... 594 00:41:36,414 --> 00:41:38,664 this case is on trial right now 595 00:41:38,747 --> 00:41:41,330 on television, for everyone to see. 596 00:41:41,414 --> 00:41:43,914 Including the potential jury pool. 597 00:41:43,997 --> 00:41:46,247 We need to jump into that pool. 598 00:41:46,330 --> 00:41:49,080 You want me to... Go on TV? 599 00:41:49,163 --> 00:41:50,706 With me at your side. 600 00:41:50,789 --> 00:41:54,914 It could be the straightest line to an open mind. Let people... 601 00:41:54,997 --> 00:41:58,247 Let people see you. Hear you. 602 00:41:58,330 --> 00:42:00,997 Without being subject to cross. 603 00:42:07,956 --> 00:42:11,414 I never aspired to a perfect life, you know. 604 00:42:12,288 --> 00:42:14,539 I just wanted to be happy. 605 00:42:14,622 --> 00:42:17,372 I had this idea of what a good family looked like, 606 00:42:17,455 --> 00:42:19,372 which I got from you and Mom. 607 00:42:19,455 --> 00:42:22,288 That's really all I wanted. Grace. 608 00:42:24,706 --> 00:42:26,997 Your mother and I were never happy. 609 00:42:28,414 --> 00:42:29,789 What? 610 00:42:32,706 --> 00:42:34,997 I was unfaithful to her. 611 00:42:36,247 --> 00:42:37,956 All the time. 612 00:42:45,872 --> 00:42:48,956 No, you weren't. I think maybe that's what 613 00:42:49,038 --> 00:42:52,497 informed my contempt for Jonathan. 614 00:42:54,372 --> 00:42:56,455 He reminded me of me. 615 00:42:57,872 --> 00:42:59,622 I was not a... 616 00:42:59,706 --> 00:43:02,706 Quote, unquote, "good husband," Grace. 617 00:43:04,831 --> 00:43:07,622 You were. You were! 618 00:43:07,706 --> 00:43:11,497 Uh, you were, Dad. I remember. You were... 619 00:43:11,580 --> 00:43:14,205 You loved her. You, you were devoted to her. 620 00:43:14,288 --> 00:43:16,497 You would write her notes. You'd bring her gifts. 621 00:43:16,580 --> 00:43:19,205 You'd shower her with, with, with, with jewelry, w... 622 00:43:19,288 --> 00:43:20,872 You, you... 623 00:43:20,956 --> 00:43:22,956 Dad, you loved her. 624 00:43:23,038 --> 00:43:25,539 I saw it. I remember. I... 625 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,372 Yeah. 626 00:43:30,247 --> 00:43:31,497 I did. 627 00:43:32,956 --> 00:43:34,956 But I was unfaithful to her, 628 00:43:35,038 --> 00:43:39,080 again and again and again and again. 629 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,455 No. 630 00:43:41,539 --> 00:43:43,539 And each time, You... 631 00:43:43,622 --> 00:43:46,622 I would come to the realization 632 00:43:46,706 --> 00:43:49,330 that this was not the way I wanted to live my life, 633 00:43:49,414 --> 00:43:52,789 and I would... come back to the fold. 634 00:43:52,872 --> 00:43:55,497 Determined to reset, 635 00:43:55,580 --> 00:43:58,163 I would confess to your mother. 636 00:43:58,247 --> 00:43:59,872 Apologize. 637 00:43:59,956 --> 00:44:03,080 Different jewelry. I don't think she ever wore any of it. 638 00:44:05,038 --> 00:44:07,622 I'm sure it was poison to her. 639 00:44:09,872 --> 00:44:13,330 And the gifts were penance. 640 00:44:13,414 --> 00:44:15,956 My atonement. 641 00:44:16,038 --> 00:44:19,497 It's just... not what you needed to hear right now, 642 00:44:19,580 --> 00:44:24,330 but the idea that your ideal of a marriage 643 00:44:24,414 --> 00:44:27,205 was based on what your mother and I had? 644 00:44:31,831 --> 00:44:34,789 You've always had a way of chasing ghosts, Grace. 645 00:44:34,872 --> 00:44:36,706 Of believing in things you shouldn't, 646 00:44:36,789 --> 00:44:40,205 and I, I am afraid that you are going to find a way 647 00:44:40,288 --> 00:44:42,455 to believe in him again. 648 00:44:47,580 --> 00:44:50,455 Exactly how weak do you think I am? 649 00:45:13,038 --> 00:45:17,122 Okay, in three, two, one. And cue Connie. 650 00:45:17,205 --> 00:45:19,622 Joining us now is Dr. Jonathan Fraser, 651 00:45:19,706 --> 00:45:21,747 along with his attorney, Haley Fitzgerald. 652 00:45:21,831 --> 00:45:25,497 - Welcome. Thanks for being with us. - Thanks for having us. 653 00:45:25,580 --> 00:45:28,330 You know, this is a little unusual interview. 654 00:45:28,414 --> 00:45:32,914 Allowing access to your client on national television. 655 00:45:32,997 --> 00:45:35,831 Well, honestly, he's already been quite on display. 656 00:45:35,914 --> 00:45:38,622 And the picture has been distorted. I thought, 657 00:45:38,706 --> 00:45:40,497 let the people see for themselves. 658 00:45:40,580 --> 00:45:43,664 What do you want them to see? 659 00:45:43,747 --> 00:45:45,622 Uh... 660 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,497 I suppose the answer to your question is... 661 00:45:49,580 --> 00:45:51,038 the truth. 662 00:45:52,622 --> 00:45:55,122 Which is to say that I'm flawed. 663 00:45:56,122 --> 00:45:59,789 I do not pass myself off as... 664 00:45:59,872 --> 00:46:02,831 honorable, because I'm not. I was unfaithful 665 00:46:02,914 --> 00:46:05,080 to a wife who I love. 666 00:46:05,163 --> 00:46:07,122 I hurt her, I hurt my son. 667 00:46:07,205 --> 00:46:09,831 Both those things are unforgivable. 668 00:46:09,914 --> 00:46:12,789 You do admit that you're a cheater. 669 00:46:12,872 --> 00:46:16,038 But are you a killer? Did you kill Elena? 670 00:46:16,122 --> 00:46:17,872 That I'm not guilty of. 671 00:46:17,956 --> 00:46:20,163 Well, let's take your version of events. 672 00:46:20,247 --> 00:46:22,247 You say you suddenly came upon her. 673 00:46:22,330 --> 00:46:26,372 You discovered her dead. But why did you run? 674 00:46:27,247 --> 00:46:29,330 Because I was in shock, 675 00:46:29,414 --> 00:46:31,068 and I mean that in the, in the medical sense. 676 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,872 So, that's, that's a cognitive shut-down. 677 00:46:32,956 --> 00:46:34,747 It's like a very extreme form of panic. 678 00:46:34,831 --> 00:46:36,664 Innocent people do not flee. 679 00:46:36,747 --> 00:46:40,247 Well, I, I didn't feel at all like an innocent man. 680 00:46:41,580 --> 00:46:44,330 I was guilty of infidelity, 681 00:46:44,414 --> 00:46:49,080 and I felt pretty certain, that, uh... 682 00:46:52,330 --> 00:46:53,747 Go ahead. 683 00:46:56,288 --> 00:46:58,872 That I was the cause of her death. 684 00:46:58,956 --> 00:47:02,038 Which is not to say that she died at my hands. 685 00:47:02,122 --> 00:47:03,831 But I felt it was possible, probable even, 686 00:47:03,914 --> 00:47:08,539 that someone else, in a fit of jealousy, or, or rage, uh... 687 00:47:09,872 --> 00:47:12,372 I had, uh... 688 00:47:12,455 --> 00:47:15,122 made love to her. 689 00:47:15,205 --> 00:47:17,664 It could have possibly triggered the killer. 690 00:47:17,747 --> 00:47:19,872 Maybe he saw, uh... 691 00:47:19,956 --> 00:47:22,205 We, we know that she was killed, uh, 692 00:47:22,288 --> 00:47:24,038 shortly after I left. 693 00:47:24,122 --> 00:47:27,330 But the police say that the evidence points 694 00:47:27,414 --> 00:47:29,539 only and unequivocally to you. 695 00:47:29,622 --> 00:47:31,902 So I think that the police need to collect... - If I could jump in here. 696 00:47:31,914 --> 00:47:33,527 The police do an excellent job. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. 697 00:47:33,539 --> 00:47:35,122 But sometimes they make human mistakes. 698 00:47:35,205 --> 00:47:36,652 Well, you think they rushed here? 699 00:47:36,664 --> 00:47:38,288 This is a high-profile homicide. 700 00:47:38,372 --> 00:47:41,080 Which happened to a mother from a well-to-do school. 701 00:47:41,163 --> 00:47:43,163 These things are not supposed to happen. 702 00:47:43,247 --> 00:47:46,038 And when they do, the public demands an answer. 703 00:47:46,122 --> 00:47:48,664 And assurance that the same horror 704 00:47:48,747 --> 00:47:51,122 couldn't possibly visit them. The police feel that pressure. 705 00:47:51,205 --> 00:47:53,151 - The pressure? - Yes, they feel that pressure. 706 00:47:53,163 --> 00:47:54,622 And doubly so in an election year. 707 00:47:54,706 --> 00:47:56,360 I would think pressure to get it right. 708 00:47:56,372 --> 00:47:57,205 Absolutely. 709 00:47:57,288 --> 00:47:58,622 But sometimes, they get blinded. 710 00:47:58,706 --> 00:48:01,789 And in this case, by low-hanging fruit. 711 00:48:01,872 --> 00:48:04,497 Jonathan was there, around the time. 712 00:48:04,580 --> 00:48:05,914 He left his DNA. 713 00:48:05,997 --> 00:48:08,122 And it wasn't you? 714 00:48:09,497 --> 00:48:11,288 It wasn't me. 715 00:48:11,372 --> 00:48:13,497 You know, I get the feeling you're, 716 00:48:13,580 --> 00:48:16,622 you're trying to come off as some kind of victim? 717 00:48:18,414 --> 00:48:20,288 Well, I... 718 00:48:20,372 --> 00:48:22,288 I'm not a victim in a, 719 00:48:22,372 --> 00:48:23,956 in a conventional sense, no. 720 00:48:24,038 --> 00:48:26,580 And I, I brought a lot of this on myself. 721 00:48:26,664 --> 00:48:28,956 But, uh... 722 00:48:29,038 --> 00:48:31,122 Let's not forget that, uh... 723 00:48:37,539 --> 00:48:38,997 Sorry. 724 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,163 Uh... 725 00:48:40,247 --> 00:48:41,414 Go, go ahead. 726 00:48:41,497 --> 00:48:43,372 Go ahead. Let's not forget what? 727 00:48:47,872 --> 00:48:49,706 Jonathan... 728 00:48:51,372 --> 00:48:53,205 That in all this... 729 00:48:54,706 --> 00:48:56,872 I lost someone I love. 730 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,080 And, uh... 731 00:49:03,163 --> 00:49:05,789 Well, there you are. You know, people often think that, uh, 732 00:49:05,872 --> 00:49:08,080 being made a suspect must preempt, 733 00:49:08,163 --> 00:49:10,247 or, or, or quash grief. 734 00:49:10,330 --> 00:49:13,664 But I can assure you that that's not the case. 735 00:49:13,747 --> 00:49:16,288 So you still say you didn't kill her? 736 00:49:16,372 --> 00:49:19,455 Well, I say, I say that because I did not kill her. 737 00:49:19,539 --> 00:49:21,038 You loved this woman. 738 00:49:21,122 --> 00:49:23,247 You knew her. You knew her life. 739 00:49:23,330 --> 00:49:29,038 Do you have some idea, perhaps, who did? 740 00:49:36,539 --> 00:49:38,372 I do. Yeah. 741 00:50:50,163 --> 00:50:51,205 I think we're gonna win. 742 00:50:53,497 --> 00:50:54,497 Do you? 743 00:50:54,914 --> 00:50:57,151 The jurors will be studying you for signs. 744 00:50:57,163 --> 00:50:59,997 If you two don't feel it, neither will the jury. 745 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,372 Are you devoted, Grace? 746 00:51:04,706 --> 00:51:07,497 Why were you there that night, outside her apartment? 747 00:51:08,497 --> 00:51:09,831 What are you asking me? 52362

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