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>>DAVID WILCOCK: I'myour host, David Wilcock,
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and I'm here with Corey Goode.
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This is a very
interesting conversation
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that we're having regardingthe secret space program.
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I want to emphasize once againthat this material is highly
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controversial and that
you probably have not
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heard anything like this beforeunless you've been following
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what we've been talking about.
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I do want to make
it clear one more
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time that I haveinvestigated this subject
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for many, many years.
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I've been in contact withinsiders for over 20 years
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and I've spoken to
dozens of people
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with different types of
classified clearance.
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And my conclusion hasbeen that there very much
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has been an industrializationof our solar system and beyond
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by what you could call thegovernment or the military,
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depending on how you
want to word this.
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So, Corey, it's good
to have you back again.
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And it seems like from
what you're saying,
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the LOC or Lunar
Operations Command
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is like the focal point for howEarth is then connecting out
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to the greater space programand the cosmos in general.
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So tell us a little
bit more about the LOC.
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I guess first of all,
what does it look
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like as you're flying into it?
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>>COREY GOODE:
Well, you can tell
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it's been built and added ontoquite a bit since the '50s.
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It's built into the cratersand into the rocky area
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to where it blends in somewhat.
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Some part of it is
built into the rock.
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Very little of it
is above ground.
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>>DAVID: Oh, OK.
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>>GOODE: Most of it I
have not had access to.
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I have seen a diagram
to where it is somewhat
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of goes into a bell shapefurther and further down
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you go and I've only hadaccess to the upper levels.
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>>DAVID: So even though
it's a bell shape,
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you don't actually see thebell on the surface of moon.
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>>GOODE: No.
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It's like looking down
at the top of the bell
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or the tip of the pyramid.
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You just see the smaller topor the tip of the iceberg,
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I guess you would say.
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The rest is below andspreads out as it goes down.
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>>DAVID: If there are this manycraft going to and from the LOC
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and you say it's on the
dark side of the moon,
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how could it possibly havebeen kept secret from us?
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Couldn't people with
their telescopes
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see all these ships comingand going from the moon?
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>>GOODE: People do see that.
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There's actually another base onthe back side of the moon that
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belongs to human beings.
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It belongs to one
of the Secret Space
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programs called DarkFleet that a lot of people
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see craft coming from.
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I can give more of a
location of that one.
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If you're looking
at the moon, it's
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at about the 10:00 position.
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People have filmed and
seen flurries and swarms
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of craft leaving and
coming from that area
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quite a bit--
amateur astronomers
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with video cameras hookedup to their telescopes.
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This is something
that has been seen.
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>>DAVID: Is there anythingon the side of the moon
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facing us of interest, or isit all being kept on the back
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so that it's less apt to beseen in the moon's surface?
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>>GOODE: Most of
it is on the back.
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There are areas on the frontside where craft come out
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and there are entrances.
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There are also areas thatare by ET groups that
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are covered by a
sort of like hologram
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shielding that prevents usfrom being able to see it.
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Most of it is on the
back side of the moon,
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for obvious reasons, forthose on the planet's surface
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that are not meant to see
the stuff won't see it.
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>>DAVID: When was the
LOC actually built?
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>>GOODE: The LOC was built ontoan existing Nazi facility that
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had been built in the latterparts of the '30s and '40s.
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>>DAVID: So it
goes that far back.
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>>GOODE: That far back.
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Once the industrial might of theUnited States became involved,
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they really started
putting a lot into it
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and built it out like crazy.
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They started really building inearnest in the late '50s on it.
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>>DAVID: Yeah, and I
want to get a lot more
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into the history of the spaceprogram in some later episodes.
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For right now, let meask you another question.
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If we had this all the
way back in the '50s,
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they why did we do
the Apollo missions?
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Why did we land on the moon?
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What was the point?
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>>GOODE: There are variouslevels of programs.
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There are some in
NASA and there's
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NASA equivalent
military programs
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that are what they thinkare the most cutting edge.
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And they think they're atthe top of the totem pole
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as far as security
clearances and need
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to know of what's going
on in the solar system.
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And these people would literallyget into a fist fight with you
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if you were to challenge themand tell them they weren't.
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So they're-- I guess the liehas many levels and the people
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at each level are told
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And it's not the case,
but they believe it,
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just as everything iscompletely compartmentalized.
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In each compartment,
everyone thinks
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they're doing the mostimportant cutting edge work
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and have the broadest knowledgeand all the other compartments
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and groups are below them.
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>>DAVID: I guess if you canmake someone feel special,
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then they're going to workharder because they think
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they're the cream of the crop.
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>>GOODE: Right, hubris.
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>>DAVID: Yeah.
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Do you think that the Apollomission was a money laundering
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operation?
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>>GOODE: Very well could
have been part of it,
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to channel a lot of that moneyinto the Secret Space Program.
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The people that were runningthose programs on the lower
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level really believed
in what they were doing
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and really thought it wascutting edge and the highest
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technology we had.
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>>DAVID: Do you think
those employees could
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have had informationwithheld from them about how
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expensive what they were
working on actually was?
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>>GOODE: Oh, yeah.
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They were deceived onintelligence and every-- they
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were deceived on all levels.
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>>DAVID: So do you think itcould be maybe even only 10%
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as expensive as what
they told us it was?
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>>GOODE: That would
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I would have no
way to know, but--
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>>DAVID: But it
definitely could have
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provided black
cash to develop out
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the space program even more.
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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Through all different ways--that, drugs, all kinds of ways
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they have of coming up
with cash to build out
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that infrastructure
in the beginning.
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>>DAVID: Do you think thatNASA knew anything interesting
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at all that we didn't know inthe mainstream about the moon?
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>>GOODE: There was a lot thatdiscovered during the Apollo
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missions.
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In the beginning,
they discovered
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that it was not a real good ideato slam one of their landing
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modules into the moon to testthe instruments they placed
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on the moon to check
for moon quakes.
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The moon is a very
strict zone that
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is like a giant Switzerland.
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It's a very neutral zone andhitting it with that projectile
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was a very bad idea.
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And from what I read, theywere warned not to come back.
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>>DAVID: It's strange
that you would
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say that the moon is
this neutral Switzerland
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type of area because it'sright next to the Earth.
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If it's our moon, shouldn'tit be our property and we get
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to have control over the moon?
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>>GOODE: No.
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>>DAVID: It doesn't
work that way?
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>>GOODE: No.
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If you've seen sort of
the maps of Antarctica,
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how it's sliced up
amongst all the nations.
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The back of the moon
is that way, too.
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And all these differentregions are pretty much owned
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and inhabited by
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>>DAVID: Really?
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>>GOODE: And there are somegroups that have bad blood
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or have warred with
each other going back
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many, many, many
thousands of years
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but they have installations thatare just a couple kilometers
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away from each other.
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And they have been
there for many thousands
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of years in peace.
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>>DAVID: There's a lot ofmoons in our solar system,
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so why is the moon
right next to Earth
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so important to these folks?
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>>GOODE: It's a perfect
observation and area
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to leave to come to
the Earth and back
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for doing their experiments.
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>>DAVID: So a lot of what wewould call extraterrestrials
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are really not very
far away and they're
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coming and going from a placethat's actually right nearby.
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>>GOODE: Exactly.
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>>DAVID: Does this
get back into what
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you were talking about
in our previous episode,
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about the delegation with thisso-called experiment where
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they're running these
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>>GOODE: Right.
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And all of the
different ETs-- this
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includes human type ETs
and the non-human types,
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types that do not particularlylike each other very much.
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There is some sort of diplomaticagreement about the moon.
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There's something very
special about the moon
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being a very diplomatic
neutral zone.
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None of them will violate that.
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>>DAVID: So you're sayingin this Super Federation
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Conference, where
you said there's
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at least 40 different groups,they're not all in agreement
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on what they're doing.
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They all have their
own programs or their--
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>>GOODE: Own agendas.
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>>DAVID: So these delegationswere like a way of them
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kind of working
out their arguments
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and finding common
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>>GOODE: Right, not steppingon each other's toes
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all the time with their
different agendas.
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>>DAVID: How could
these groups that
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have warred with eachother in the past possibly
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be able to tolerate eachother's presence on such a
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small-- the moon is
only 2,160 miles wide
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so how should they
tolerate that?
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>>GOODE: It's something
that has been going
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on for thousands of years.
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They've set up this
diplomatic neutral zone
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that not even the worst
of them will violate.
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None of them will violate it.
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It just is not-- it's somethingthat I've heard it say,
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it is not done.
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>>DAVID: Is there aresome sort of enforcement,
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some sort of military
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>>GOODE: It doesn't have to be.
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It just-- no one
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It just isn't done.
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>>DAVID: Well, that wouldimply that in the past,
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something happened that wasso horrible that they learned
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from their mistakes,
I would think.
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>>GOODE: Right.
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There's areas of the
moon where there's
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a lot of debris
from other battles
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and things from ancient times.
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>>DAVID: They
didn't clean it up?
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>>GOODE: No.
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They left it there
as kind of a memorial
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or a testament of what
happened in the past.
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And the stuff is still thereand it's usually off limits.
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>>DAVID: So it might
be like the idea
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of how silly the nucleararms race is, where you've
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got two countries fightingover who's got more nukes
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when even a smallpercentage of that arsenal
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would wipe out the whole planet.
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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>>DAVID: So these folkswould all wipe each other out
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if they want to war becausethey probably have weapons that
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are much greater than nukes.
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>>GOODE: Right.
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They can destroy entire planets.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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So the LOC, is that
just one small part
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of all the habitation
that's on the moon?
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>>GOODE: Right.
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>>DAVID: It's not really afocal point, except maybe for us
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from Earth?
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>>GOODE: Right.
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It's a focal point
for human activity.
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>>DAVID: So other
ET groups would
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have their own versions ofthe LOC for them, which would
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be like their focal point.
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>>GOODE: Exactly.
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>>DAVID: They're not usingour LOC as their focal point?
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>>GOODE: No.
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No, no, no.
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>>DAVID: OK.
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>>GOODE: No.
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I have not seen ETs at
the LOC, other than when
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members of the Sphere
Alliance have appeared.
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>>DAVID: So real
quickly, what is it
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like when you are in the LOC?
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Do they have, like
apartments that you
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can go to once you get inside?
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Is it just wide open conferencerooms and little chairs?
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What happens when you go inside?
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>>GOODE: Well, until recently Ihad never been to the VIP area.
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I had always been
to just the area
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to where they have small kindof not really apartments,
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but small little dwellings towhere it has two to four bunks.
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The halls are real narrow.
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You move over to the
VIP area, the halls
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are wider, there's wood
paneling on the walls,
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like cherry wood nice
walls-- very upscale.
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It's a dramatic changewhen you go from one area
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to the VIP area.
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>>DAVID: Could you
wander around and try
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to find a restricted area or doyou have military escorts that
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lead you around?
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How does that work?
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>>GOODE: Well, you're
allowed certain areas.
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There are marks, paint
lines, on the floor
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that are a different colorthat lead to different areas.
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>>DAVID: So if you're
red, then you just walk,
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follow the red line--
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>>GOODE: Right.
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>>DAVID: --to where it leads to?
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>>GOODE: Right.
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And like I said,
I've only been--
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the top floor is where mostof everything takes place.
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The next two floors
were the medical
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and some other more advancedmedical stuff take place.
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I've never been further
down than those.
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There are some
people recently that
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have been taken on a
tour that have gotten
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to see a lot more than I have.
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>>DAVID: One of the
things that obviously
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is the most interesting to folksis this idea of an alliance.
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So we covered that
briefly, but I'd
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like you to sort of sketchout for us in more detail what
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is the alliance?
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Was it there at the beginningof the space program
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or did it form later onand what are their goals,
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that kind of stuff.
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>>GOODE: The alliance, it kindof formed slowly over time.
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The Solar Warden
was more of a group
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that was dated back to the SDIera and a little bit earlier.
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>>DAVID: Strategic
Defense Initiative.
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>>GOODE: Right.
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>>DAVID: Star Wars.
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>>GOODE: Back in
the late '70s, '80s,
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and they were getting upgradesup into the early '90s.
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But they were pretty muchmore of the aging fleet.
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>>DAVID: And what
was Solar Warden's
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original responsibility?
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>>GOODE: They policed the solarsystem from intruders and--
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>>DAVID: That would be groupsthat are not part of these 40
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that are the Super Federation?
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>>GOODE: Right.
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And also somewhat of a spacetraffic control, air traffic
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control, they took care of that.
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>>DAVID: Couldn't some ETgroup just interfere and invade
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with vastly superior
weapons and technology?
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I mean how could a
group from the '80s
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be able to police
our solar system
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against potentially anybodythat could try to invade here?
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>>GOODE: Well,
they wouldn't have
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been able to hold their ownwith a large invasive force,
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but most of the groups
that passed through
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were only in maybe one
to a handful of vessels.
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There's so many different groupsthat pass through our area.
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>>DAVID: And I would guessit's sort of like gang warfare,
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where the 40 some odd ET groupsthat have sort of claimed this
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as their turf, with whateverlevel of technology they have,
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they're also going
to defend their home
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turf from an invasion.
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>>GOODE: Right.
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>>DAVID: So Solar Warden
is not necessarily
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meeting a tactical force.
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They're not having aweapons up fighting stance
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when you say they're policingthe solar system-- or are they?
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>>GOODE: They would engagesmall numbers when they had to,
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but they were not ever a hugeforce to be reckoned with.
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>>DAVID: So most of
these unwanted entrances
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into our solar system wouldbe more small groups of ETs
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or single craft that
are trying to be sneaky?
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>>GOODE: Right.
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Little--
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>>DAVID: Trying to slip in?
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>>GOODE: --marauder groupsthat would come in and do hit
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and runs to come in and
take things and leave.
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>>DAVID: OK.
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So where does the
alliance come into play
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now that we're talking
about Solar Warden?
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You said Solar Warden gotstarted in the late '70s
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and they got a lot ofthe Star Wars technology.
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How does this relate to
the alliance exactly?
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>>GOODE: OK.
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Well, they were kind of the rootgroup that formed the alliance.
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Now they're made up of
breakaway or defectors
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from the other space fleetgroups and some of them
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are from various Black Opsmilitary space programs.
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You have the ICC, the
Interplanetary Corporate
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Conglomerate, which is
pretty much the largest.
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They own pretty much all
the infrastructure out
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in the solar system.
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You have--
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>>DAVID: And what corporations?
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>>GOODE: Just about
every aerospace.
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And other than aerospace,it's a huge amount of--
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>>DAVID: Lockheed,Boeing, McDonnell Douglas,
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Hughes Aircraft?
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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Just all of the above.
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And not just American
corporations.
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And then you have
the Dark Fleet.
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They are a very
secretive fleet that
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has very advanced
technology and they
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are predominantly outside ofthe solar system all the time.
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Then there was this UNtype fleet from just about
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any country you could
think of, and they--
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>>DAVID: Countries on
Earth, you're saying.
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>>GOODE: Earth countries.
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And they seem to be a
lot more of a laid back,
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not really a huge
militaristic group.
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As Solar Warden has startedpretty much a Cold War,
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they started to like fly infront of the International
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Space Station to
accidentally show
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their vessels, little thingslike that in the beginning.
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>>DAVID: If Solar
Warden is going
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to try to create disclosure,where obviously the other parts
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of the space program
don't want it,
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couldn't that lead to a shootingwar between these factions?
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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It was on the brink of that whenthe Sphere Alliance, the Sphere
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Being Alliance, went
into an active mode
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and made contact with the SecretSpace Program Alliance, which
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had just started
accepting defectors
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from some of these othergroups to where it wasn't just
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the Solar Warden group anymore.
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The alliance was
made up of defectors
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from the other
programs, as well.
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So it's a hodgepodge ofdefectors from all the space
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programs that have a common goalof ending the tyranny on Earth
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of basically the secret Earth
government that controls
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the Babylonian money magic slavesystem and to bring to Earth
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the technologies that
we have developed
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that has free energy, allkinds of medical technologies
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that will heal just aboutanything you can think of,
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clean up the environment.
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Overnight, these
technologies would
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collapse the financialsystem and there would be
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no need for a financial system.
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And they want to
bring this to Earth
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and to also do a full
disclosure of all
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of the crimes against humanitythat all of these elites
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have been doing over
many, many years.
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That's their goal.
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>>DAVID: So when did theSecret Space Program Alliance
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start to have
these goals in mind
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and begin to take actionon them, to your knowledge?
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>>GOODE: To my
knowledge, they started
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forming these ideas in
probably the late '90s
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and were really starting to acton it in the early 2000s, where
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they were really trying tocause accidental disclosures
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by flying in front
of live feeds,
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trying to get the
people to ask questions.
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>>DAVID: How much contactdoes the space program
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have with what's here on Earth?
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Could they tune in
like cable television
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and watch TV and see what'sgoing on with our shows?
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>>GOODE: Up until a certaintime period, there was zero.
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All communications to
Earth were blocked.
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>>DAVID: Really?
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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There was no--
after the internet,
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internet access was blocked.
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There is internet broadcastthroughout the solar system.
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>>DAVID: Internet from Earth,or they have their own internet
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in the space program?
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>>GOODE: They have their
own internet and access
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to the internet.
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>>DAVID: Oh, they do?
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>>GOODE: Mm-hm.
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A lot of times it's read-only.
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>>DAVID: Read only?
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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>>DAVID: I would imagine thatonly the most trusted people
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would be able to actually uploadsomething to the internet,
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that they could be trustednot to leak the truth.
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>>GOODE: Right.
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Back when I was assigned
to the research vessel,
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we had any radio or televisionbroadcasts were blocked.
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We were not allowed
any real time or close
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to real time news.
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>>DAVID: So the Alliance
is aware of what's
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happening on Earth.
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Some people, at least,
in the Alliance,
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know what's going on here.
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>>GOODE: Right.
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After they finally got to apoint to where they broke away,
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they opened up
information to where
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those that were in the Alliancenow had access to information.
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And seeing what was going ongave them even more incentive
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to want to bring thisinformation, this technology,
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to humanity.
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>>DAVID: What would the
average person's life
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be like if theAlliance's goals are met?
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On Earth, what would
that life be like?
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>>GOODE: It would be nodifferent than the "Star Trek"
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era, what you've
seen in "Star Trek."
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>>DAVID: So could people have aportal station that they could
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go to, where instead of flyinglike through the airplane
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that you'd be able to take somekind of "Stargate" type system
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to wherever you
wanted to travel?
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>>GOODE: Sure.
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Yeah.
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There's replicators.
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There would be no starvation.
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Literally, the deserts
could be turned green
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with desalination of water.
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>>DAVID: What about
all the plastic
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floating in the ocean, these biggiant gyres of waste material?
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>>GOODE: Matter is easilychanged into something else.
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It's just a matter of knowinghow, the technology to do so.
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And we have that technology,it's just not being shared.
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>>DAVID: Some people
might be really freaked
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out by the idea of not
having money anymore.
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They're going to say, that'ssocialism, that's communism.
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That's going to get us
under even more control
496
00:27:15,372 --> 00:27:16,772
because nobody
will have any money
497
00:27:16,896 --> 00:27:20,376
to resist this new thingthat they're trying to do.
498
00:27:20,508 --> 00:27:22,858
>>GOODE: That's the
way we're programmed.
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00:27:22,989 --> 00:27:25,299
>>DAVID: How would you thinkthat that's not the case?
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00:27:25,426 --> 00:27:28,596
>>GOODE: I mean if youwant money that badly, you
501
00:27:28,734 --> 00:27:32,784
can use a replicator andreplicate some silver or gold
502
00:27:32,912 --> 00:27:35,522
or replicate yourself
a $100 bill, if it
503
00:27:35,654 --> 00:27:39,054
makes you feel comfortable,and put in your pocket.
504
00:27:39,179 --> 00:27:44,399
There will be absolutely noneed for any type of financial
505
00:27:44,532 --> 00:27:46,192
give or take.
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00:27:46,316 --> 00:27:49,756
>>DAVID: I would think that thetypical old school politician
507
00:27:49,885 --> 00:27:53,715
mentality would be that ifyou gave everybody on Earth
508
00:27:53,846 --> 00:27:55,666
this kind of stuff,
that they would all just
509
00:27:55,804 --> 00:27:57,984
want to drink beer and nobodywould want to do anything
510
00:27:58,111 --> 00:28:00,331
and they'd just be hangingaround and it would kill them.
511
00:28:00,461 --> 00:28:02,121
It would ruin their lives.
512
00:28:02,245 --> 00:28:05,065
>>GOODE: Well, there's going tobe a transitional period where
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00:28:05,205 --> 00:28:09,905
people are going to go probablya little bit nuts for a while
514
00:28:10,036 --> 00:28:11,686
with the technology.
515
00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:13,740
>>DAVID: I mean when peoplewin the lottery right?
516
00:28:13,866 --> 00:28:14,816
It's not good for them.
517
00:28:14,954 --> 00:28:16,224
>>GOODE: Right.
518
00:28:16,346 --> 00:28:19,696
Well, if everybody wins
the lottery at once,
519
00:28:19,828 --> 00:28:21,918
everybody has a replicator.
520
00:28:22,048 --> 00:28:24,488
Everybody's going to bepushing the button every day
521
00:28:24,615 --> 00:28:28,655
and trying all these
different meals.
522
00:28:28,794 --> 00:28:34,364
Everybody is going to wantto go all over the world,
523
00:28:34,495 --> 00:28:37,145
and once it's cleared allover the solar system,
524
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,020
and see all these differentruins that are everywhere.
525
00:28:40,153 --> 00:28:44,333
I mean there's going to be a lotthat's going to be opened up.
526
00:28:44,461 --> 00:28:45,991
But first, we're
going to have to go
527
00:28:46,115 --> 00:28:51,245
through the process of
dealing with our past
528
00:28:51,381 --> 00:28:53,561
and getting over our past.
529
00:28:53,688 --> 00:28:56,298
>>DAVID: Couldn'tsomebody have a replicator
530
00:28:56,430 --> 00:28:58,170
and build a very
effective weapon with it
531
00:28:58,301 --> 00:28:59,781
and then kill a whole
bunch of people?
532
00:28:59,912 --> 00:29:02,832
>>GOODE: That's whatbuffer technology is for.
533
00:29:02,958 --> 00:29:04,438
>>DAVID: What's
buffer technology?
534
00:29:04,568 --> 00:29:07,528
>>GOODE: They've got someof that on temporal drives
535
00:29:07,658 --> 00:29:09,138
to keep people
from traveling back
536
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:13,449
in time on certain
craft that have
537
00:29:13,577 --> 00:29:16,617
temporal drives for engines,I guess you would say.
538
00:29:16,755 --> 00:29:19,105
>>DAVID: So you can't just 3Dprint a nuke with a replicator
539
00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:20,145
or something like that?
540
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:20,850
>>GOODE: Right.
541
00:29:20,976 --> 00:29:21,796
>>DAVID: OK.
542
00:29:21,934 --> 00:29:23,074
So there are restrictions.
543
00:29:23,196 --> 00:29:24,196
It's not like you
can make anything.
544
00:29:24,327 --> 00:29:25,457
>>GOODE: Right.
545
00:29:25,589 --> 00:29:27,069
>>DAVID: What does
the Alliance want
546
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,600
to do as far as all thissecrecy and all this occultism
547
00:29:32,727 --> 00:29:36,987
that we see in the worldtoday, the weird stuff that
548
00:29:37,123 --> 00:29:38,563
is so upsetting and depressing?
549
00:29:38,689 --> 00:29:40,869
How do they want to handle that?
550
00:29:40,996 --> 00:29:42,776
>>GOODE: They want to
shine a light on it.
551
00:29:42,911 --> 00:29:46,871
They want to bring the
truth, the information,
552
00:29:47,002 --> 00:29:51,622
to every human being
at once on the planet.
553
00:29:51,746 --> 00:29:53,836
Not give certain
people the truth,
554
00:29:53,966 --> 00:29:56,226
give everybody the truth.
555
00:29:56,359 --> 00:30:00,839
Give everybody access to thistechnology and information.
556
00:30:00,973 --> 00:30:02,633
>>DAVID: So no more
cover-ups at all?
557
00:30:02,757 --> 00:30:05,627
>>GOODE: No more cover-ups,no more partial disclosures.
558
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,160
Just bring it all, bring
it all to humanity.
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00:30:10,286 --> 00:30:11,846
>>DAVID: Yeah, that's
really incredible.
560
00:30:11,984 --> 00:30:14,424
So that's all time we
have for this episode.
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00:30:14,551 --> 00:30:16,291
We're going to have a
lot more to talk about.
562
00:30:16,423 --> 00:30:18,773
Obviously, we're
just getting started.
563
00:30:18,904 --> 00:30:20,644
But again, Corey, thank
you for being here.
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00:30:20,775 --> 00:30:22,335
This is really
incredible information.
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00:30:22,472 --> 00:30:23,132
>>GOODE: Thank you.
566
00:30:23,256 --> 00:30:24,166
>>DAVID: Bye.
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