1 00:00:15,276 --> 00:00:17,016 >>DAVID WILCOCK: I'myour host, David Wilcock, 2 00:00:17,147 --> 00:00:19,577 and I'm here with Corey Goode. 3 00:00:19,715 --> 00:00:22,885 This is a very interesting conversation 4 00:00:23,023 --> 00:00:27,943 that we're having regardingthe secret space program. 5 00:00:28,071 --> 00:00:31,511 I want to emphasize once againthat this material is highly 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,160 controversial and that you probably have not 7 00:00:34,295 --> 00:00:36,645 heard anything like this beforeunless you've been following 8 00:00:36,775 --> 00:00:38,645 what we've been talking about. 9 00:00:38,777 --> 00:00:40,077 I do want to make it clear one more 10 00:00:40,214 --> 00:00:43,094 time that I haveinvestigated this subject 11 00:00:43,217 --> 00:00:44,697 for many, many years. 12 00:00:44,827 --> 00:00:47,397 I've been in contact withinsiders for over 20 years 13 00:00:47,525 --> 00:00:48,865 and I've spoken to dozens of people 14 00:00:49,005 --> 00:00:52,135 with different types of classified clearance. 15 00:00:52,269 --> 00:00:55,529 And my conclusion hasbeen that there very much 16 00:00:55,664 --> 00:01:01,154 has been an industrializationof our solar system and beyond 17 00:01:01,278 --> 00:01:04,498 by what you could call thegovernment or the military, 18 00:01:04,629 --> 00:01:06,459 depending on how you want to word this. 19 00:01:06,588 --> 00:01:09,288 So, Corey, it's good to have you back again. 20 00:01:09,417 --> 00:01:14,197 And it seems like from what you're saying, 21 00:01:14,335 --> 00:01:17,765 the LOC or Lunar Operations Command 22 00:01:17,903 --> 00:01:24,213 is like the focal point for howEarth is then connecting out 23 00:01:24,345 --> 00:01:29,085 to the greater space programand the cosmos in general. 24 00:01:29,219 --> 00:01:32,439 So tell us a little bit more about the LOC. 25 00:01:32,570 --> 00:01:34,920 I guess first of all, what does it look 26 00:01:35,051 --> 00:01:37,661 like as you're flying into it? 27 00:01:37,793 --> 00:01:40,273 >>COREY GOODE: Well, you can tell 28 00:01:40,404 --> 00:01:46,634 it's been built and added ontoquite a bit since the '50s. 29 00:01:46,758 --> 00:01:56,248 It's built into the cratersand into the rocky area 30 00:01:56,377 --> 00:01:59,637 to where it blends in somewhat. 31 00:01:59,771 --> 00:02:03,081 Some part of it is built into the rock. 32 00:02:03,210 --> 00:02:05,300 Very little of it is above ground. 33 00:02:05,429 --> 00:02:06,739 >>DAVID: Oh, OK. 34 00:02:06,865 --> 00:02:10,645 >>GOODE: Most of it I have not had access to. 35 00:02:10,782 --> 00:02:16,962 I have seen a diagram to where it is somewhat 36 00:02:17,093 --> 00:02:20,923 of goes into a bell shapefurther and further down 37 00:02:21,053 --> 00:02:24,883 you go and I've only hadaccess to the upper levels. 38 00:02:25,014 --> 00:02:26,624 >>DAVID: So even though it's a bell shape, 39 00:02:26,755 --> 00:02:29,495 you don't actually see thebell on the surface of moon. 40 00:02:29,627 --> 00:02:30,927 >>GOODE: No. 41 00:02:31,063 --> 00:02:34,073 It's like looking down at the top of the bell 42 00:02:34,197 --> 00:02:36,027 or the tip of the pyramid. 43 00:02:36,156 --> 00:02:40,376 You just see the smaller topor the tip of the iceberg, 44 00:02:40,508 --> 00:02:41,938 I guess you would say. 45 00:02:42,074 --> 00:02:45,954 The rest is below andspreads out as it goes down. 46 00:02:46,078 --> 00:02:51,348 >>DAVID: If there are this manycraft going to and from the LOC 47 00:02:51,475 --> 00:02:53,865 and you say it's on the dark side of the moon, 48 00:02:53,999 --> 00:02:56,389 how could it possibly havebeen kept secret from us? 49 00:02:56,524 --> 00:02:57,964 Couldn't people with their telescopes 50 00:02:58,090 --> 00:03:00,660 see all these ships comingand going from the moon? 51 00:03:00,789 --> 00:03:01,789 >>GOODE: People do see that. 52 00:03:04,488 --> 00:03:14,318 There's actually another base onthe back side of the moon that 53 00:03:14,455 --> 00:03:16,495 belongs to human beings. 54 00:03:16,631 --> 00:03:18,721 It belongs to one of the Secret Space 55 00:03:18,850 --> 00:03:21,720 programs called DarkFleet that a lot of people 56 00:03:21,853 --> 00:03:23,593 see craft coming from. 57 00:03:27,076 --> 00:03:29,686 I can give more of a location of that one. 58 00:03:29,818 --> 00:03:31,168 If you're looking at the moon, it's 59 00:03:31,298 --> 00:03:35,298 at about the 10:00 position. 60 00:03:35,432 --> 00:03:38,612 People have filmed and seen flurries and swarms 61 00:03:38,740 --> 00:03:41,960 of craft leaving and coming from that area 62 00:03:42,091 --> 00:03:44,881 quite a bit-- amateur astronomers 63 00:03:45,007 --> 00:03:50,007 with video cameras hookedup to their telescopes. 64 00:03:50,142 --> 00:03:52,322 This is something that has been seen. 65 00:03:52,449 --> 00:03:54,409 >>DAVID: Is there anythingon the side of the moon 66 00:03:54,538 --> 00:03:58,188 facing us of interest, or isit all being kept on the back 67 00:03:58,325 --> 00:04:02,415 so that it's less apt to beseen in the moon's surface? 68 00:04:02,546 --> 00:04:04,846 >>GOODE: Most of it is on the back. 69 00:04:04,983 --> 00:04:13,863 There are areas on the frontside where craft come out 70 00:04:13,992 --> 00:04:16,522 and there are entrances. 71 00:04:16,647 --> 00:04:23,347 There are also areas thatare by ET groups that 72 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,610 are covered by a sort of like hologram 73 00:04:26,744 --> 00:04:32,184 shielding that prevents usfrom being able to see it. 74 00:04:32,315 --> 00:04:35,055 Most of it is on the back side of the moon, 75 00:04:35,187 --> 00:04:39,187 for obvious reasons, forthose on the planet's surface 76 00:04:39,322 --> 00:04:42,412 that are not meant to see the stuff won't see it. 77 00:04:42,543 --> 00:04:45,763 >>DAVID: When was the LOC actually built? 78 00:04:45,894 --> 00:04:56,514 >>GOODE: The LOC was built ontoan existing Nazi facility that 79 00:04:56,644 --> 00:05:01,044 had been built in the latterparts of the '30s and '40s. 80 00:05:01,170 --> 00:05:02,430 >>DAVID: So it goes that far back. 81 00:05:02,563 --> 00:05:04,223 >>GOODE: That far back. 82 00:05:04,347 --> 00:05:11,657 Once the industrial might of theUnited States became involved, 83 00:05:11,789 --> 00:05:14,789 they really started putting a lot into it 84 00:05:14,923 --> 00:05:16,663 and built it out like crazy. 85 00:05:16,794 --> 00:05:20,414 They started really building inearnest in the late '50s on it. 86 00:05:20,537 --> 00:05:22,187 >>DAVID: Yeah, and I want to get a lot more 87 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:26,852 into the history of the spaceprogram in some later episodes. 88 00:05:26,978 --> 00:05:31,108 For right now, let meask you another question. 89 00:05:31,243 --> 00:05:33,813 If we had this all the way back in the '50s, 90 00:05:33,942 --> 00:05:36,252 they why did we do the Apollo missions? 91 00:05:36,379 --> 00:05:38,029 Why did we land on the moon? 92 00:05:38,163 --> 00:05:39,563 What was the point? 93 00:05:39,687 --> 00:05:44,467 >>GOODE: There are variouslevels of programs. 94 00:05:44,605 --> 00:05:48,255 There are some in NASA and there's 95 00:05:48,391 --> 00:05:51,611 NASA equivalent military programs 96 00:05:51,742 --> 00:05:55,792 that are what they thinkare the most cutting edge. 97 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,360 And they think they're atthe top of the totem pole 98 00:05:59,489 --> 00:06:02,359 as far as security clearances and need 99 00:06:02,492 --> 00:06:05,842 to know of what's going on in the solar system. 100 00:06:05,974 --> 00:06:11,854 And these people would literallyget into a fist fight with you 101 00:06:11,980 --> 00:06:16,510 if you were to challenge themand tell them they weren't. 102 00:06:16,637 --> 00:06:26,167 So they're-- I guess the liehas many levels and the people 103 00:06:26,298 --> 00:06:29,868 at each level are told they're at the top. 104 00:06:29,998 --> 00:06:33,738 And it's not the case, but they believe it, 105 00:06:33,871 --> 00:06:37,921 just as everything iscompletely compartmentalized. 106 00:06:38,049 --> 00:06:39,959 In each compartment, everyone thinks 107 00:06:40,095 --> 00:06:44,705 they're doing the mostimportant cutting edge work 108 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:52,369 and have the broadest knowledgeand all the other compartments 109 00:06:52,499 --> 00:06:54,889 and groups are below them. 110 00:06:55,023 --> 00:06:57,163 >>DAVID: I guess if you canmake someone feel special, 111 00:06:57,286 --> 00:06:59,286 then they're going to workharder because they think 112 00:06:59,419 --> 00:07:01,549 they're the cream of the crop. 113 00:07:01,682 --> 00:07:02,862 >>GOODE: Right, hubris. 114 00:07:02,987 --> 00:07:04,637 >>DAVID: Yeah. 115 00:07:04,772 --> 00:07:09,252 Do you think that the Apollomission was a money laundering 116 00:07:09,385 --> 00:07:10,685 operation? 117 00:07:10,821 --> 00:07:12,691 >>GOODE: Very well could have been part of it, 118 00:07:12,823 --> 00:07:18,093 to channel a lot of that moneyinto the Secret Space Program. 119 00:07:18,220 --> 00:07:24,270 The people that were runningthose programs on the lower 120 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,790 level really believed in what they were doing 121 00:07:26,924 --> 00:07:31,674 and really thought it wascutting edge and the highest 122 00:07:31,799 --> 00:07:33,099 technology we had. 123 00:07:33,235 --> 00:07:34,845 >>DAVID: Do you think those employees could 124 00:07:34,976 --> 00:07:37,326 have had informationwithheld from them about how 125 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:40,237 expensive what they were working on actually was? 126 00:07:40,372 --> 00:07:41,852 >>GOODE: Oh, yeah. 127 00:07:41,983 --> 00:07:45,903 They were deceived onintelligence and every-- they 128 00:07:46,030 --> 00:07:48,250 were deceived on all levels. 129 00:07:48,380 --> 00:07:52,470 >>DAVID: So do you think itcould be maybe even only 10% 130 00:07:52,602 --> 00:07:54,472 as expensive as what they told us it was? 131 00:07:54,604 --> 00:07:55,954 >>GOODE: That would be speculation. 132 00:07:56,084 --> 00:08:00,004 I would have no way to know, but-- 133 00:08:00,131 --> 00:08:01,481 >>DAVID: But it definitely could have 134 00:08:01,611 --> 00:08:05,571 provided black cash to develop out 135 00:08:05,702 --> 00:08:06,962 the space program even more. 136 00:08:07,095 --> 00:08:08,745 >>GOODE: Yeah. 137 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:12,229 Through all different ways--that, drugs, all kinds of ways 138 00:08:12,361 --> 00:08:17,151 they have of coming up with cash to build out 139 00:08:17,279 --> 00:08:18,889 that infrastructure in the beginning. 140 00:08:19,020 --> 00:08:22,980 >>DAVID: Do you think thatNASA knew anything interesting 141 00:08:23,111 --> 00:08:28,991 at all that we didn't know inthe mainstream about the moon? 142 00:08:29,117 --> 00:08:32,727 >>GOODE: There was a lot thatdiscovered during the Apollo 143 00:08:32,860 --> 00:08:34,210 missions. 144 00:08:34,339 --> 00:08:36,909 In the beginning, they discovered 145 00:08:37,038 --> 00:08:43,088 that it was not a real good ideato slam one of their landing 146 00:08:43,218 --> 00:08:48,308 modules into the moon to testthe instruments they placed 147 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,230 on the moon to check for moon quakes. 148 00:08:51,356 --> 00:08:56,576 The moon is a very strict zone that 149 00:08:56,710 --> 00:08:59,320 is like a giant Switzerland. 150 00:08:59,451 --> 00:09:07,291 It's a very neutral zone andhitting it with that projectile 151 00:09:07,416 --> 00:09:08,976 was a very bad idea. 152 00:09:09,113 --> 00:09:13,603 And from what I read, theywere warned not to come back. 153 00:09:13,727 --> 00:09:15,117 >>DAVID: It's strange that you would 154 00:09:15,250 --> 00:09:19,560 say that the moon is this neutral Switzerland 155 00:09:19,689 --> 00:09:21,949 type of area because it'sright next to the Earth. 156 00:09:22,083 --> 00:09:25,613 If it's our moon, shouldn'tit be our property and we get 157 00:09:25,739 --> 00:09:27,389 to have control over the moon? 158 00:09:27,523 --> 00:09:28,613 >>GOODE: No. 159 00:09:28,742 --> 00:09:29,312 >>DAVID: It doesn't work that way? 160 00:09:29,438 --> 00:09:30,738 >>GOODE: No. 161 00:09:30,874 --> 00:09:35,234 If you've seen sort of the maps of Antarctica, 162 00:09:35,357 --> 00:09:41,187 how it's sliced up amongst all the nations. 163 00:09:41,319 --> 00:09:44,579 The back of the moon is that way, too. 164 00:09:44,714 --> 00:09:49,504 And all these differentregions are pretty much owned 165 00:09:49,632 --> 00:09:53,162 and inhabited by different ET groups. 166 00:09:53,288 --> 00:09:54,858 >>DAVID: Really? 167 00:09:54,985 --> 00:09:58,075 >>GOODE: And there are somegroups that have bad blood 168 00:09:58,206 --> 00:10:00,376 or have warred with each other going back 169 00:10:00,512 --> 00:10:02,912 many, many, many thousands of years 170 00:10:03,037 --> 00:10:06,607 but they have installations thatare just a couple kilometers 171 00:10:06,736 --> 00:10:08,256 away from each other. 172 00:10:08,390 --> 00:10:13,000 And they have been there for many thousands 173 00:10:13,134 --> 00:10:14,834 of years in peace. 174 00:10:14,962 --> 00:10:17,922 >>DAVID: There's a lot ofmoons in our solar system, 175 00:10:18,052 --> 00:10:21,102 so why is the moon right next to Earth 176 00:10:21,229 --> 00:10:22,529 so important to these folks? 177 00:10:22,665 --> 00:10:27,665 >>GOODE: It's a perfect observation and area 178 00:10:27,801 --> 00:10:31,811 to leave to come to the Earth and back 179 00:10:31,935 --> 00:10:34,105 for doing their experiments. 180 00:10:34,242 --> 00:10:37,382 >>DAVID: So a lot of what wewould call extraterrestrials 181 00:10:37,506 --> 00:10:39,596 are really not very far away and they're 182 00:10:39,726 --> 00:10:43,156 coming and going from a placethat's actually right nearby. 183 00:10:43,294 --> 00:10:45,044 >>GOODE: Exactly. 184 00:10:45,166 --> 00:10:46,596 >>DAVID: Does this get back into what 185 00:10:46,733 --> 00:10:48,563 you were talking about in our previous episode, 186 00:10:48,691 --> 00:10:53,391 about the delegation with thisso-called experiment where 187 00:10:53,522 --> 00:10:55,792 they're running these 22 different programs? 188 00:10:55,916 --> 00:10:56,996 >>GOODE: Right. 189 00:10:57,134 --> 00:11:00,094 And all of the different ETs-- this 190 00:11:00,224 --> 00:11:05,324 includes human type ETs and the non-human types, 191 00:11:05,447 --> 00:11:09,537 types that do not particularlylike each other very much. 192 00:11:09,669 --> 00:11:12,929 There is some sort of diplomaticagreement about the moon. 193 00:11:13,063 --> 00:11:15,153 There's something very special about the moon 194 00:11:15,283 --> 00:11:20,203 being a very diplomatic neutral zone. 195 00:11:20,331 --> 00:11:22,121 None of them will violate that. 196 00:11:22,246 --> 00:11:24,206 >>DAVID: So you're sayingin this Super Federation 197 00:11:24,335 --> 00:11:26,725 Conference, where you said there's 198 00:11:26,860 --> 00:11:30,600 at least 40 different groups,they're not all in agreement 199 00:11:30,733 --> 00:11:32,003 on what they're doing. 200 00:11:32,126 --> 00:11:33,606 They all have their own programs or their-- 201 00:11:33,736 --> 00:11:35,216 >>GOODE: Own agendas. 202 00:11:35,346 --> 00:11:37,086 >>DAVID: So these delegationswere like a way of them 203 00:11:37,218 --> 00:11:39,218 kind of working out their arguments 204 00:11:39,350 --> 00:11:41,530 and finding common ground somehow? 205 00:11:41,657 --> 00:11:45,267 >>GOODE: Right, not steppingon each other's toes 206 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,710 all the time with their different agendas. 207 00:11:47,837 --> 00:11:49,747 >>DAVID: How could these groups that 208 00:11:49,883 --> 00:11:51,973 have warred with eachother in the past possibly 209 00:11:52,102 --> 00:11:54,892 be able to tolerate eachother's presence on such a 210 00:11:55,018 --> 00:11:59,148 small-- the moon is only 2,160 miles wide 211 00:11:59,283 --> 00:12:01,333 so how should they tolerate that? 212 00:12:01,459 --> 00:12:04,109 >>GOODE: It's something that has been going 213 00:12:04,245 --> 00:12:05,505 on for thousands of years. 214 00:12:05,637 --> 00:12:09,987 They've set up this diplomatic neutral zone 215 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,910 that not even the worst of them will violate. 216 00:12:15,038 --> 00:12:17,038 None of them will violate it. 217 00:12:17,171 --> 00:12:20,441 It just is not-- it's somethingthat I've heard it say, 218 00:12:20,565 --> 00:12:22,385 it is not done. 219 00:12:22,524 --> 00:12:24,354 >>DAVID: Is there aresome sort of enforcement, 220 00:12:24,482 --> 00:12:26,572 some sort of military that polices it or-- 221 00:12:26,702 --> 00:12:27,882 >>GOODE: It doesn't have to be. 222 00:12:28,008 --> 00:12:30,308 It just-- no one has to enforce it. 223 00:12:30,445 --> 00:12:32,575 It just isn't done. 224 00:12:32,708 --> 00:12:35,228 >>DAVID: Well, that wouldimply that in the past, 225 00:12:35,363 --> 00:12:38,543 something happened that wasso horrible that they learned 226 00:12:38,670 --> 00:12:40,110 from their mistakes, I would think. 227 00:12:40,237 --> 00:12:41,407 >>GOODE: Right. 228 00:12:41,543 --> 00:12:42,943 There's areas of the moon where there's 229 00:12:43,066 --> 00:12:49,116 a lot of debris from other battles 230 00:12:49,246 --> 00:12:52,206 and things from ancient times. 231 00:12:52,336 --> 00:12:53,556 >>DAVID: They didn't clean it up? 232 00:12:53,685 --> 00:12:54,895 >>GOODE: No. 233 00:12:55,035 --> 00:12:58,035 They left it there as kind of a memorial 234 00:12:58,168 --> 00:13:01,908 or a testament of what happened in the past. 235 00:13:02,042 --> 00:13:07,262 And the stuff is still thereand it's usually off limits. 236 00:13:07,395 --> 00:13:09,265 >>DAVID: So it might be like the idea 237 00:13:09,397 --> 00:13:11,397 of how silly the nucleararms race is, where you've 238 00:13:11,529 --> 00:13:15,139 got two countries fightingover who's got more nukes 239 00:13:15,272 --> 00:13:17,062 when even a smallpercentage of that arsenal 240 00:13:17,187 --> 00:13:18,747 would wipe out the whole planet. 241 00:13:18,885 --> 00:13:20,355 >>GOODE: Yeah. 242 00:13:20,495 --> 00:13:22,105 >>DAVID: So these folkswould all wipe each other out 243 00:13:22,236 --> 00:13:24,456 if they want to war becausethey probably have weapons that 244 00:13:24,586 --> 00:13:26,196 are much greater than nukes. 245 00:13:26,327 --> 00:13:27,237 >>GOODE: Right. 246 00:13:27,371 --> 00:13:28,941 They can destroy entire planets. 247 00:13:29,069 --> 00:13:30,289 >>DAVID: Wow. 248 00:13:30,418 --> 00:13:36,638 So the LOC, is that just one small part 249 00:13:36,772 --> 00:13:39,382 of all the habitation that's on the moon? 250 00:13:39,514 --> 00:13:41,124 >>GOODE: Right. 251 00:13:41,255 --> 00:13:42,645 >>DAVID: It's not really afocal point, except maybe for us 252 00:13:42,778 --> 00:13:43,338 from Earth? 253 00:13:43,474 --> 00:13:44,694 >>GOODE: Right. 254 00:13:44,824 --> 00:13:46,094 It's a focal point for human activity. 255 00:13:46,216 --> 00:13:47,776 >>DAVID: So other ET groups would 256 00:13:47,914 --> 00:13:51,054 have their own versions ofthe LOC for them, which would 257 00:13:51,178 --> 00:13:52,178 be like their focal point. 258 00:13:52,309 --> 00:13:53,879 >>GOODE: Exactly. 259 00:13:54,007 --> 00:13:54,827 >>DAVID: They're not usingour LOC as their focal point? 260 00:13:54,964 --> 00:13:55,494 >>GOODE: No. 261 00:13:55,617 --> 00:13:56,177 No, no, no. 262 00:13:56,313 --> 00:13:56,843 >>DAVID: OK. 263 00:13:56,966 --> 00:13:58,266 >>GOODE: No. 264 00:13:58,402 --> 00:14:03,362 I have not seen ETs at the LOC, other than when 265 00:14:03,494 --> 00:14:05,714 members of the Sphere Alliance have appeared. 266 00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:08,975 >>DAVID: So real quickly, what is it 267 00:14:09,109 --> 00:14:12,459 like when you are in the LOC? 268 00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:14,550 Do they have, like apartments that you 269 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,159 can go to once you get inside? 270 00:14:16,290 --> 00:14:19,990 Is it just wide open conferencerooms and little chairs? 271 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,300 What happens when you go inside? 272 00:14:22,426 --> 00:14:26,256 >>GOODE: Well, until recently Ihad never been to the VIP area. 273 00:14:26,387 --> 00:14:29,827 I had always been to just the area 274 00:14:29,956 --> 00:14:34,396 to where they have small kindof not really apartments, 275 00:14:34,525 --> 00:14:39,175 but small little dwellings towhere it has two to four bunks. 276 00:14:39,313 --> 00:14:41,973 The halls are real narrow. 277 00:14:42,098 --> 00:14:44,618 You move over to the VIP area, the halls 278 00:14:44,753 --> 00:14:50,153 are wider, there's wood paneling on the walls, 279 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:57,850 like cherry wood nice walls-- very upscale. 280 00:14:57,984 --> 00:15:02,814 It's a dramatic changewhen you go from one area 281 00:15:02,945 --> 00:15:05,685 to the VIP area. 282 00:15:05,817 --> 00:15:08,037 >>DAVID: Could you wander around and try 283 00:15:08,168 --> 00:15:11,348 to find a restricted area or doyou have military escorts that 284 00:15:11,475 --> 00:15:12,215 lead you around? 285 00:15:12,346 --> 00:15:13,646 How does that work? 286 00:15:13,782 --> 00:15:16,222 >>GOODE: Well, you're allowed certain areas. 287 00:15:16,350 --> 00:15:22,620 There are marks, paint lines, on the floor 288 00:15:22,747 --> 00:15:26,527 that are a different colorthat lead to different areas. 289 00:15:26,664 --> 00:15:28,454 >>DAVID: So if you're red, then you just walk, 290 00:15:28,579 --> 00:15:29,189 follow the red line-- 291 00:15:29,319 --> 00:15:30,229 >>GOODE: Right. 292 00:15:30,364 --> 00:15:30,934 >>DAVID: --to where it leads to? 293 00:15:31,060 --> 00:15:32,020 >>GOODE: Right. 294 00:15:32,148 --> 00:15:35,148 And like I said, I've only been-- 295 00:15:35,282 --> 00:15:42,552 the top floor is where mostof everything takes place. 296 00:15:45,770 --> 00:15:48,340 The next two floors were the medical 297 00:15:48,469 --> 00:15:56,429 and some other more advancedmedical stuff take place. 298 00:15:56,564 --> 00:16:00,314 I've never been further down than those. 299 00:16:00,437 --> 00:16:02,047 There are some people recently that 300 00:16:02,178 --> 00:16:06,048 have been taken on a tour that have gotten 301 00:16:06,182 --> 00:16:07,842 to see a lot more than I have. 302 00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:10,187 >>DAVID: One of the things that obviously 303 00:16:10,317 --> 00:16:15,237 is the most interesting to folksis this idea of an alliance. 304 00:16:15,365 --> 00:16:17,925 So we covered that briefly, but I'd 305 00:16:18,064 --> 00:16:23,904 like you to sort of sketchout for us in more detail what 306 00:16:24,026 --> 00:16:25,456 is the alliance? 307 00:16:25,593 --> 00:16:27,733 Was it there at the beginningof the space program 308 00:16:27,856 --> 00:16:32,816 or did it form later onand what are their goals, 309 00:16:32,948 --> 00:16:34,688 that kind of stuff. 310 00:16:34,819 --> 00:16:40,429 >>GOODE: The alliance, it kindof formed slowly over time. 311 00:16:40,564 --> 00:16:46,884 The Solar Warden was more of a group 312 00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:53,486 that was dated back to the SDIera and a little bit earlier. 313 00:16:53,621 --> 00:16:55,061 >>DAVID: Strategic Defense Initiative. 314 00:16:55,188 --> 00:16:55,878 >>GOODE: Right. 315 00:16:56,015 --> 00:16:57,095 >>DAVID: Star Wars. 316 00:16:57,233 --> 00:16:59,673 >>GOODE: Back in the late '70s, '80s, 317 00:16:59,801 --> 00:17:06,421 and they were getting upgradesup into the early '90s. 318 00:17:06,547 --> 00:17:11,027 But they were pretty muchmore of the aging fleet. 319 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,510 >>DAVID: And what was Solar Warden's 320 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,290 original responsibility? 321 00:17:14,424 --> 00:17:23,964 >>GOODE: They policed the solarsystem from intruders and-- 322 00:17:24,086 --> 00:17:26,566 >>DAVID: That would be groupsthat are not part of these 40 323 00:17:26,697 --> 00:17:28,217 that are the Super Federation? 324 00:17:28,351 --> 00:17:29,921 >>GOODE: Right. 325 00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:38,269 And also somewhat of a spacetraffic control, air traffic 326 00:17:38,405 --> 00:17:40,055 control, they took care of that. 327 00:17:40,189 --> 00:17:44,499 >>DAVID: Couldn't some ETgroup just interfere and invade 328 00:17:44,628 --> 00:17:48,198 with vastly superior weapons and technology? 329 00:17:48,328 --> 00:17:51,198 I mean how could a group from the '80s 330 00:17:51,331 --> 00:17:52,941 be able to police our solar system 331 00:17:53,072 --> 00:17:55,292 against potentially anybodythat could try to invade here? 332 00:17:55,422 --> 00:17:56,992 >>GOODE: Well, they wouldn't have 333 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:02,299 been able to hold their ownwith a large invasive force, 334 00:18:02,429 --> 00:18:06,169 but most of the groups that passed through 335 00:18:06,302 --> 00:18:11,482 were only in maybe one to a handful of vessels. 336 00:18:11,612 --> 00:18:15,492 There's so many different groupsthat pass through our area. 337 00:18:15,616 --> 00:18:17,876 >>DAVID: And I would guessit's sort of like gang warfare, 338 00:18:18,009 --> 00:18:22,359 where the 40 some odd ET groupsthat have sort of claimed this 339 00:18:22,492 --> 00:18:26,022 as their turf, with whateverlevel of technology they have, 340 00:18:26,148 --> 00:18:28,668 they're also going to defend their home 341 00:18:28,803 --> 00:18:29,933 turf from an invasion. 342 00:18:30,065 --> 00:18:31,275 >>GOODE: Right. 343 00:18:31,414 --> 00:18:33,164 >>DAVID: So Solar Warden is not necessarily 344 00:18:33,286 --> 00:18:36,246 meeting a tactical force. 345 00:18:36,376 --> 00:18:41,986 They're not having aweapons up fighting stance 346 00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:45,171 when you say they're policingthe solar system-- or are they? 347 00:18:45,298 --> 00:18:50,348 >>GOODE: They would engagesmall numbers when they had to, 348 00:18:50,477 --> 00:18:55,437 but they were not ever a hugeforce to be reckoned with. 349 00:18:55,569 --> 00:18:58,529 >>DAVID: So most of these unwanted entrances 350 00:18:58,659 --> 00:19:02,179 into our solar system wouldbe more small groups of ETs 351 00:19:02,315 --> 00:19:04,055 or single craft that are trying to be sneaky? 352 00:19:04,186 --> 00:19:04,666 >>GOODE: Right. 353 00:19:04,795 --> 00:19:05,705 Little-- 354 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,410 >>DAVID: Trying to slip in? 355 00:19:07,537 --> 00:19:09,367 >>GOODE: --marauder groupsthat would come in and do hit 356 00:19:09,496 --> 00:19:13,666 and runs to come in and take things and leave. 357 00:19:13,804 --> 00:19:15,074 >>DAVID: OK. 358 00:19:15,197 --> 00:19:18,937 So where does the alliance come into play 359 00:19:19,070 --> 00:19:20,680 now that we're talking about Solar Warden? 360 00:19:20,811 --> 00:19:23,861 You said Solar Warden gotstarted in the late '70s 361 00:19:23,988 --> 00:19:26,688 and they got a lot ofthe Star Wars technology. 362 00:19:26,817 --> 00:19:28,557 How does this relate to the alliance exactly? 363 00:19:28,689 --> 00:19:30,339 >>GOODE: OK. 364 00:19:30,473 --> 00:19:36,353 Well, they were kind of the rootgroup that formed the alliance. 365 00:19:41,267 --> 00:19:45,007 Now they're made up of breakaway or defectors 366 00:19:45,140 --> 00:19:52,370 from the other space fleetgroups and some of them 367 00:19:52,495 --> 00:19:59,675 are from various Black Opsmilitary space programs. 368 00:19:59,807 --> 00:20:08,207 You have the ICC, the Interplanetary Corporate 369 00:20:08,337 --> 00:20:12,597 Conglomerate, which is pretty much the largest. 370 00:20:12,733 --> 00:20:15,213 They own pretty much all the infrastructure out 371 00:20:15,344 --> 00:20:17,654 in the solar system. 372 00:20:17,781 --> 00:20:19,831 You have-- 373 00:20:19,957 --> 00:20:22,177 >>DAVID: And what corporations? 374 00:20:22,308 --> 00:20:24,138 >>GOODE: Just about every aerospace. 375 00:20:24,266 --> 00:20:30,136 And other than aerospace,it's a huge amount of-- 376 00:20:30,272 --> 00:20:32,622 >>DAVID: Lockheed,Boeing, McDonnell Douglas, 377 00:20:32,753 --> 00:20:33,933 Hughes Aircraft? 378 00:20:34,058 --> 00:20:34,838 >>GOODE: Yes. 379 00:20:34,972 --> 00:20:36,632 Just all of the above. 380 00:20:36,757 --> 00:20:40,327 And not just American corporations. 381 00:20:40,456 --> 00:20:42,886 And then you have the Dark Fleet. 382 00:20:43,024 --> 00:20:47,074 They are a very secretive fleet that 383 00:20:47,202 --> 00:20:52,212 has very advanced technology and they 384 00:20:52,338 --> 00:20:56,688 are predominantly outside ofthe solar system all the time. 385 00:20:56,820 --> 00:21:03,170 Then there was this UNtype fleet from just about 386 00:21:03,305 --> 00:21:07,175 any country you could think of, and they-- 387 00:21:07,309 --> 00:21:08,959 >>DAVID: Countries on Earth, you're saying. 388 00:21:09,093 --> 00:21:10,403 >>GOODE: Earth countries. 389 00:21:10,530 --> 00:21:15,490 And they seem to be a lot more of a laid back, 390 00:21:15,622 --> 00:21:19,972 not really a huge militaristic group. 391 00:21:20,104 --> 00:21:27,634 As Solar Warden has startedpretty much a Cold War, 392 00:21:27,764 --> 00:21:29,984 they started to like fly infront of the International 393 00:21:30,114 --> 00:21:33,604 Space Station to accidentally show 394 00:21:33,727 --> 00:21:37,207 their vessels, little thingslike that in the beginning. 395 00:21:37,339 --> 00:21:38,949 >>DAVID: If Solar Warden is going 396 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,610 to try to create disclosure,where obviously the other parts 397 00:21:42,736 --> 00:21:44,956 of the space program don't want it, 398 00:21:45,086 --> 00:21:48,476 couldn't that lead to a shootingwar between these factions? 399 00:21:48,611 --> 00:21:50,871 >>GOODE: Yes. 400 00:21:51,005 --> 00:21:57,615 It was on the brink of that whenthe Sphere Alliance, the Sphere 401 00:21:57,751 --> 00:22:02,281 Being Alliance, went into an active mode 402 00:22:02,408 --> 00:22:10,808 and made contact with the SecretSpace Program Alliance, which 403 00:22:10,938 --> 00:22:14,418 had just started accepting defectors 404 00:22:14,550 --> 00:22:17,770 from some of these othergroups to where it wasn't just 405 00:22:17,901 --> 00:22:20,121 the Solar Warden group anymore. 406 00:22:20,251 --> 00:22:23,391 The alliance was made up of defectors 407 00:22:23,516 --> 00:22:26,346 from the other programs, as well. 408 00:22:26,475 --> 00:22:30,645 So it's a hodgepodge ofdefectors from all the space 409 00:22:30,784 --> 00:22:39,844 programs that have a common goalof ending the tyranny on Earth 410 00:22:39,967 --> 00:22:45,147 of basically the secret Earth government that controls 411 00:22:45,276 --> 00:22:51,936 the Babylonian money magic slavesystem and to bring to Earth 412 00:22:52,066 --> 00:22:54,806 the technologies that we have developed 413 00:22:54,938 --> 00:23:02,248 that has free energy, allkinds of medical technologies 414 00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:05,821 that will heal just aboutanything you can think of, 415 00:23:05,949 --> 00:23:09,169 clean up the environment. 416 00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:12,960 Overnight, these technologies would 417 00:23:13,087 --> 00:23:15,567 collapse the financialsystem and there would be 418 00:23:15,698 --> 00:23:18,348 no need for a financial system. 419 00:23:18,484 --> 00:23:21,494 And they want to bring this to Earth 420 00:23:21,617 --> 00:23:25,707 and to also do a full disclosure of all 421 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:29,539 of the crimes against humanitythat all of these elites 422 00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:34,019 have been doing over many, many years. 423 00:23:34,151 --> 00:23:35,681 That's their goal. 424 00:23:35,805 --> 00:23:37,365 >>DAVID: So when did theSecret Space Program Alliance 425 00:23:37,503 --> 00:23:39,593 start to have these goals in mind 426 00:23:39,722 --> 00:23:43,862 and begin to take actionon them, to your knowledge? 427 00:23:43,987 --> 00:23:45,947 >>GOODE: To my knowledge, they started 428 00:23:46,076 --> 00:23:54,736 forming these ideas in probably the late '90s 429 00:23:54,868 --> 00:24:02,218 and were really starting to acton it in the early 2000s, where 430 00:24:02,353 --> 00:24:09,543 they were really trying tocause accidental disclosures 431 00:24:09,665 --> 00:24:13,145 by flying in front of live feeds, 432 00:24:13,277 --> 00:24:15,497 trying to get the people to ask questions. 433 00:24:15,628 --> 00:24:18,108 >>DAVID: How much contactdoes the space program 434 00:24:18,239 --> 00:24:19,589 have with what's here on Earth? 435 00:24:19,719 --> 00:24:22,679 Could they tune in like cable television 436 00:24:22,809 --> 00:24:26,379 and watch TV and see what'sgoing on with our shows? 437 00:24:26,508 --> 00:24:30,988 >>GOODE: Up until a certaintime period, there was zero. 438 00:24:31,121 --> 00:24:33,121 All communications to Earth were blocked. 439 00:24:33,254 --> 00:24:34,084 >>DAVID: Really? 440 00:24:34,211 --> 00:24:35,341 >>GOODE: Yeah. 441 00:24:35,474 --> 00:24:38,524 There was no-- after the internet, 442 00:24:38,651 --> 00:24:40,221 internet access was blocked. 443 00:24:40,348 --> 00:24:43,738 There is internet broadcastthroughout the solar system. 444 00:24:43,873 --> 00:24:46,223 >>DAVID: Internet from Earth,or they have their own internet 445 00:24:46,354 --> 00:24:47,664 in the space program? 446 00:24:47,790 --> 00:24:49,230 >>GOODE: They have their own internet and access 447 00:24:49,357 --> 00:24:51,007 to the internet. 448 00:24:51,141 --> 00:24:51,881 >>DAVID: Oh, they do? 449 00:24:52,012 --> 00:24:52,932 >>GOODE: Mm-hm. 450 00:24:53,056 --> 00:24:54,666 A lot of times it's read-only. 451 00:24:54,797 --> 00:24:55,447 >>DAVID: Read only? 452 00:24:55,581 --> 00:24:57,191 >>GOODE: Yeah. 453 00:24:57,321 --> 00:24:58,891 >>DAVID: I would imagine thatonly the most trusted people 454 00:24:59,019 --> 00:25:01,849 would be able to actually uploadsomething to the internet, 455 00:25:01,978 --> 00:25:04,938 that they could be trustednot to leak the truth. 456 00:25:05,068 --> 00:25:07,158 >>GOODE: Right. 457 00:25:07,288 --> 00:25:11,768 Back when I was assigned to the research vessel, 458 00:25:11,901 --> 00:25:20,521 we had any radio or televisionbroadcasts were blocked. 459 00:25:20,649 --> 00:25:24,039 We were not allowed any real time or close 460 00:25:24,174 --> 00:25:25,574 to real time news. 461 00:25:25,698 --> 00:25:28,568 >>DAVID: So the Alliance is aware of what's 462 00:25:28,701 --> 00:25:30,011 happening on Earth. 463 00:25:30,137 --> 00:25:32,047 Some people, at least, in the Alliance, 464 00:25:32,182 --> 00:25:33,182 know what's going on here. 465 00:25:33,314 --> 00:25:34,974 >>GOODE: Right. 466 00:25:35,098 --> 00:25:38,838 After they finally got to apoint to where they broke away, 467 00:25:38,972 --> 00:25:42,542 they opened up information to where 468 00:25:42,671 --> 00:25:46,681 those that were in the Alliancenow had access to information. 469 00:25:46,806 --> 00:25:52,286 And seeing what was going ongave them even more incentive 470 00:25:52,420 --> 00:25:58,510 to want to bring thisinformation, this technology, 471 00:25:58,644 --> 00:25:59,994 to humanity. 472 00:26:00,123 --> 00:26:02,743 >>DAVID: What would the average person's life 473 00:26:02,865 --> 00:26:07,085 be like if theAlliance's goals are met? 474 00:26:07,217 --> 00:26:08,917 On Earth, what would that life be like? 475 00:26:09,045 --> 00:26:12,915 >>GOODE: It would be nodifferent than the "Star Trek" 476 00:26:13,049 --> 00:26:16,139 era, what you've seen in "Star Trek." 477 00:26:16,270 --> 00:26:20,360 >>DAVID: So could people have aportal station that they could 478 00:26:20,491 --> 00:26:24,101 go to, where instead of flyinglike through the airplane 479 00:26:24,234 --> 00:26:28,244 that you'd be able to take somekind of "Stargate" type system 480 00:26:28,369 --> 00:26:30,199 to wherever you wanted to travel? 481 00:26:30,327 --> 00:26:30,807 >>GOODE: Sure. 482 00:26:30,937 --> 00:26:31,627 Yeah. 483 00:26:31,764 --> 00:26:33,504 There's replicators. 484 00:26:33,635 --> 00:26:34,675 There would be no starvation. 485 00:26:38,074 --> 00:26:41,954 Literally, the deserts could be turned green 486 00:26:42,078 --> 00:26:44,428 with desalination of water. 487 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:46,169 >>DAVID: What about all the plastic 488 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:51,870 floating in the ocean, these biggiant gyres of waste material? 489 00:26:52,001 --> 00:26:57,181 >>GOODE: Matter is easilychanged into something else. 490 00:26:57,311 --> 00:27:01,321 It's just a matter of knowinghow, the technology to do so. 491 00:27:01,445 --> 00:27:05,315 And we have that technology,it's just not being shared. 492 00:27:05,449 --> 00:27:07,149 >>DAVID: Some people might be really freaked 493 00:27:07,277 --> 00:27:09,537 out by the idea of not having money anymore. 494 00:27:09,671 --> 00:27:12,761 They're going to say, that'ssocialism, that's communism. 495 00:27:12,892 --> 00:27:15,242 That's going to get us under even more control 496 00:27:15,372 --> 00:27:16,772 because nobody will have any money 497 00:27:16,896 --> 00:27:20,376 to resist this new thingthat they're trying to do. 498 00:27:20,508 --> 00:27:22,858 >>GOODE: That's the way we're programmed. 499 00:27:22,989 --> 00:27:25,299 >>DAVID: How would you thinkthat that's not the case? 500 00:27:25,426 --> 00:27:28,596 >>GOODE: I mean if youwant money that badly, you 501 00:27:28,734 --> 00:27:32,784 can use a replicator andreplicate some silver or gold 502 00:27:32,912 --> 00:27:35,522 or replicate yourself a $100 bill, if it 503 00:27:35,654 --> 00:27:39,054 makes you feel comfortable,and put in your pocket. 504 00:27:39,179 --> 00:27:44,399 There will be absolutely noneed for any type of financial 505 00:27:44,532 --> 00:27:46,192 give or take. 506 00:27:46,316 --> 00:27:49,756 >>DAVID: I would think that thetypical old school politician 507 00:27:49,885 --> 00:27:53,715 mentality would be that ifyou gave everybody on Earth 508 00:27:53,846 --> 00:27:55,666 this kind of stuff, that they would all just 509 00:27:55,804 --> 00:27:57,984 want to drink beer and nobodywould want to do anything 510 00:27:58,111 --> 00:28:00,331 and they'd just be hangingaround and it would kill them. 511 00:28:00,461 --> 00:28:02,121 It would ruin their lives. 512 00:28:02,245 --> 00:28:05,065 >>GOODE: Well, there's going tobe a transitional period where 513 00:28:05,205 --> 00:28:09,905 people are going to go probablya little bit nuts for a while 514 00:28:10,036 --> 00:28:11,686 with the technology. 515 00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:13,740 >>DAVID: I mean when peoplewin the lottery right? 516 00:28:13,866 --> 00:28:14,816 It's not good for them. 517 00:28:14,954 --> 00:28:16,224 >>GOODE: Right. 518 00:28:16,346 --> 00:28:19,696 Well, if everybody wins the lottery at once, 519 00:28:19,828 --> 00:28:21,918 everybody has a replicator. 520 00:28:22,048 --> 00:28:24,488 Everybody's going to bepushing the button every day 521 00:28:24,615 --> 00:28:28,655 and trying all these different meals. 522 00:28:28,794 --> 00:28:34,364 Everybody is going to wantto go all over the world, 523 00:28:34,495 --> 00:28:37,145 and once it's cleared allover the solar system, 524 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,020 and see all these differentruins that are everywhere. 525 00:28:40,153 --> 00:28:44,333 I mean there's going to be a lotthat's going to be opened up. 526 00:28:44,461 --> 00:28:45,991 But first, we're going to have to go 527 00:28:46,115 --> 00:28:51,245 through the process of dealing with our past 528 00:28:51,381 --> 00:28:53,561 and getting over our past. 529 00:28:53,688 --> 00:28:56,298 >>DAVID: Couldn'tsomebody have a replicator 530 00:28:56,430 --> 00:28:58,170 and build a very effective weapon with it 531 00:28:58,301 --> 00:28:59,781 and then kill a whole bunch of people? 532 00:28:59,912 --> 00:29:02,832 >>GOODE: That's whatbuffer technology is for. 533 00:29:02,958 --> 00:29:04,438 >>DAVID: What's buffer technology? 534 00:29:04,568 --> 00:29:07,528 >>GOODE: They've got someof that on temporal drives 535 00:29:07,658 --> 00:29:09,138 to keep people from traveling back 536 00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:13,449 in time on certain craft that have 537 00:29:13,577 --> 00:29:16,617 temporal drives for engines,I guess you would say. 538 00:29:16,755 --> 00:29:19,105 >>DAVID: So you can't just 3Dprint a nuke with a replicator 539 00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:20,145 or something like that? 540 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:20,850 >>GOODE: Right. 541 00:29:20,976 --> 00:29:21,796 >>DAVID: OK. 542 00:29:21,934 --> 00:29:23,074 So there are restrictions. 543 00:29:23,196 --> 00:29:24,196 It's not like you can make anything. 544 00:29:24,327 --> 00:29:25,457 >>GOODE: Right. 545 00:29:25,589 --> 00:29:27,069 >>DAVID: What does the Alliance want 546 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,600 to do as far as all thissecrecy and all this occultism 547 00:29:32,727 --> 00:29:36,987 that we see in the worldtoday, the weird stuff that 548 00:29:37,123 --> 00:29:38,563 is so upsetting and depressing? 549 00:29:38,689 --> 00:29:40,869 How do they want to handle that? 550 00:29:40,996 --> 00:29:42,776 >>GOODE: They want to shine a light on it. 551 00:29:42,911 --> 00:29:46,871 They want to bring the truth, the information, 552 00:29:47,002 --> 00:29:51,622 to every human being at once on the planet. 553 00:29:51,746 --> 00:29:53,836 Not give certain people the truth, 554 00:29:53,966 --> 00:29:56,226 give everybody the truth. 555 00:29:56,359 --> 00:30:00,839 Give everybody access to thistechnology and information. 556 00:30:00,973 --> 00:30:02,633 >>DAVID: So no more cover-ups at all? 557 00:30:02,757 --> 00:30:05,627 >>GOODE: No more cover-ups,no more partial disclosures. 558 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,160 Just bring it all, bring it all to humanity. 559 00:30:10,286 --> 00:30:11,846 >>DAVID: Yeah, that's really incredible. 560 00:30:11,984 --> 00:30:14,424 So that's all time we have for this episode. 561 00:30:14,551 --> 00:30:16,291 We're going to have a lot more to talk about. 562 00:30:16,423 --> 00:30:18,773 Obviously, we're just getting started. 563 00:30:18,904 --> 00:30:20,644 But again, Corey, thank you for being here. 564 00:30:20,775 --> 00:30:22,335 This is really incredible information. 565 00:30:22,472 --> 00:30:23,132 >>GOODE: Thank you. 566 00:30:23,256 --> 00:30:24,166 >>DAVID: Bye.