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[indistinct radio chatter]
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[distant sirens]
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[gentle music]
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- I'm nobody.
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I'm a tramp, a bum, a hobo.
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I'm a boxcar
and a jug of wine.
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[helicopter whirring]
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You think that my mind is
like your mind, but it isn't.
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There's no need
to feel guilty.
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I haven't done anything
I'm ashamed of.
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Because we're outlaws.
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[music intensifies]
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Yeah, when you're in war,
you're in war, mister.
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Believe me, if I started
murdering people,
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there'd be none of you left.
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♪
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- Friday night
in Los Angeles,
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a movie actress and four
of her friends were murdered.
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The circumstances were lurid.
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- In a scene described
by one investigator
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as reminiscent of
a weird religious rite...
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- This was at the home of
movie director Roman Polanski.
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It was his wife...
- Eight months pregnant.
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- ...who was one
of the victims.
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- Bodies were
scattered inside,
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on the lawn and the driveway.
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- The others were
a male hairdresser,
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the heiress to
a coffee fortune, a writer,
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and a boy just out
of high school.
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- A scene more tragic
than any horror movie.
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- Stunned the city
and shocked the world.
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- In all my years
I have never seen anything
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like this before.
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- You all know it?
- No.
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- At 8:30 this morning,
Winifred Chapman,
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an employee,
came to work at 10050 Cielo
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and found several bodies
in the house,
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and immediately the police
were notified.
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The tentative identification
of the persons are as follows.
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Sharon Polanski,
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Jay Sebring,
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Wojciech Frykowski,
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Abigail Folger,
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and another man
who is unknown.
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- Where were the bodies found?
All in one room?
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- No, two of the bodies
were found inside the house,
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one in a vehicle,
and two on the front lawn.
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- We understand she was
pregnant, is that correct?
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- Yes, she is pregnant, but
I'm not going to discuss how--
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- Were any of the bodies
badly mutilated?
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- This I'd rather
not discuss.
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- Was there anything scrawled
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on the front door
of that house in blood?
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- I can't answer
that question.
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♪
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- Do you have
any kind of an idea
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of who might have done it?
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Do you have any kind of
APBs out, any suspects at all?
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- No, the only person we have
at this time is Mr. Garretson,
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whom we are questioning,
because he was on the premises
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this morning
when the maid arrived.
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- Why is this case more
complicated than other cases
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that you can't comment?
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What's the difference
in this case?
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- Well, how many cases
and how many times do you have
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five persons that are found
murdered at the same time?
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- ♪ Around, around
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- Living is what scares me.
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Dying is easy.
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- And a short time later,
not far away,
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a middle-aged couple
was found murdered
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in similar circumstances.
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- The latest murders were
discovered during the night.
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The bodies of a man and his
wife found in their home.
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Leno LaBianca,
a supermarket owner,
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and his wife had both
been stabbed to death,
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repeated stab wounds.
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On his body, the word "war"
had been carved in the chest.
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Then, with blood, the killer
had scrawled the words
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"death to pigs."
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♪
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- Oh my God,
it's happened again.
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- The slaughter
of innocent people.
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- That set off a panic state
in Los Angeles.
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- People locked
their doors at night.
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People started
arming themselves.
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[police sirens]
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[tense music]
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[gentle music]
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♪
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- We thought
she was a British star.
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Come to find out,
she's an American all the time.
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A beautiful young lady you're
gonna be hearing a lot from.
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She's in London filming
"The Vampire Killers,"
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a new film by director
Roman Polanski.
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Sharon Tate
is the young lady's name.
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- I was born
in Dallas, Texas.
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- And lived all of your life
in America?
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- Not really, I lived
in Italy for four years.
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- Why was that?
- My dad's in the Army.
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- An Army brat made good, huh?
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- Yeah, I try.
- Oh, that's great.
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And now you have
a monster movie.
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- And now--not really.
- What's it called?
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- It's called "The Vampire
Killers," Roman Polanski.
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- Sharon?
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Sharon?
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Looking at him,
not at me, okay?
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- Looking at the husband?
- Yeah.
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- You know, uh--
- Yeah.
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- Quiet in the back.
- Turnover.
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- During that period
when I was in London,
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I remember an instant
when I was thinking,
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"I'm happy now and
I don't want anything else."
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- London: two top film
folk got spliced,
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and the present public
turned out in force.
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He is Polish-born director
Roman Polanski.
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She's American
actress Sharon Tate.
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And the huge public interest
their wedding created
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shows that the magic
of motion pictures
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is as strong today as ever.
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After the ceremony
at Chelsea Registry Office,
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the mini-gowned bride
and the mod-geared mate
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made for the Playboy Club
and a star-studded reception.
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Bunnies lavished champagne
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on some of the top names
in show business.
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Michael Caine
keeping company
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with very dishy
Candice Bergen.
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The bride will keep working.
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Hubby says he wants
a hippie, not a housewife.
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That was the only serious
note of the day.
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Tony Newley got the star
set really shaking.
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[upbeat music]
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- California.
Mean temperature 73 degrees.
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The sun that never quits.
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It acts on the unburned
hydrocarbons
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and oxides of nitrogen
from auto exhaust.
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Los Angeles County,
with four million cars
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and the odd bike suffers most
because it's in a basin.
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The breezes are balmy.
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There's nothing to stir up
that brown cloud
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that can make
your eyes tear.
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85% of it attributed to cars.
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The more general effect, our whole climate is warming up
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because there's so much
carbon dioxide in the air.
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It's so heavy that it prevents
the radiation of heat
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from the Earth's surface.
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[inhales deeply]
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Ahh, breathe in, city folk.
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[Charles Manson's
"Don't Do Anything Illegal"]
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♪
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- ♪ Don't do
anything illegal ♪
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♪ Beware of the eagle
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♪ That's right
in the middle of your back ♪
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♪ Don't be illegal ♪
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♪ They got
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♪ You in a sack
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♪ They got you in a sack ♪
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♪ And they keep you
looking back ♪
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♪
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♪ Don't do anything illegal
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♪ Beware of the eagle
that's got you by the neck ♪
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♪
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- This is where they lived,
among the stables, barns,
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and phony buildings
of an old,
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run-down movie location
20 miles from Los Angeles.
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They called themselves
"The Family."
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- ♪ I gotta see your ID
my friend ♪
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♪ I gotta see
where you begin ♪
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♪ I gotta see your ID
my friend ♪
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- Back and forth,
lugging their sleeping bags.
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They just lived anywhere
they felt like it.
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With they're family.
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- They were constantly
taking dope,
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and they just
sit around all day
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and sleep and got loaded.
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- Police said they were
a pseudo-religious cult.
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The family's leader,
Charles Manson--
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- He's a good person.
A very good person.
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He's got a lot of peace.
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- He was introduced to us
as their idol and leader,
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and he was always
interested in music.
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And everywhere he went, some
of the girls kinda followed him
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and laughed and talk and sang.
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- Well, when I first met him,
the man talked to me,
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and he says,
"Why don't you come up?"
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"and the rules are that,
you know, there is no rules."
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"You just look at it,
and just be beautiful with it,
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and it's just
beautiful to you."
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- Yeah.
- You know, and I love him.
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- His so-called power, which is-it only lies in his happiness.
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That's what attracts people
is he's completely happy.
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- And warm.
- Gentle.
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He dances, he sings,
he looks beautiful,
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he looks happy,
and this draws a lot of people,
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just like people
are drawn to little babies.
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- That's all there is,
that's all there is,
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is brothers and sisters,
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and Charles Manson
is your brother.
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- Morning.
- Why?
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- Sun's shining this morning.
- It is.
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- Yeah.
- Well, what are your plans?
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- I have none.
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Going to the desert.
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- Desert?
- Yeah.
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- So you were 14, 15, 16
during that time?
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- I met him when I was 14.
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He was kind of impish
and playful, you know?
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He could be funny.
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[gentle music]
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♪
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He was in the circle
playing music,
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and he got up and
offered me his root beer,
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and gave me a big hug,
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and "Come,
join us in the circle."
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We, you know,
"We've been waiting for you."
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It just all ended up seeming,
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you know, like providence
or something.
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♪
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Spahn Ranch had been a movie
set for lots of westerns.
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And when we first saw it,
that's what it was.
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It was kind of
a run-down movie set.
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The corral was way to the left
and there was a big barn.
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There was the jail
and there was a big saloon.
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But there were
rooms behind them.
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And then there was
the kitchen.
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There was a band of, like,
we called them outlaw shacks.
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And then all the way to
the right was George's house.
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He was blind,
and it definitely showed.
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You know, the house was
in as bad disrepair as,
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you know, the facade.
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It needed paint,
inside and out.
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And we cleaned.
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You know, there was always
tons of sweeping to do.
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We mucked out the stalls.
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And we helped out
in the corral.
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We helped rent the horses.
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There were trails all over for
riding horses into the hills
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where all
the fabulous rocks are.
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We got high.
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Obviously, we got high.
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You know, I could just
remember dancing together
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and just, you know,
maybe cooking.
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Helms Bakery would come by
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and give us their day-old
stuff at the ranch.
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And Charlie introduced us
to dumpster diving
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behind the grocery stores.
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We had our favorite ones,
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because they had better food
that they threw out.
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You know, in the beginning,
it was different.
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I mean, there was just like
six of us girls.
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Mary was pretty reserved,
actually.
253
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You know,
she was very quiet.
254
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Mary really was like
the matriarch of the Family.
255
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I think Mary probably
a little bit resented,
256
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you know, like all of us did,
sharing Charlie.
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Patty Krenwinkel
was just like Mother Earth,
258
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I mean, she was just
one of the sweetest, humblest,
259
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most nurturing girls
in the Family.
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Leslie, she was just like
a giggly high schooler.
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I viewed her
as a little hottie,
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and I hadn't been
to high school.
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She'd been like
a homecoming queen,
264
00:14:25,233 --> 00:14:27,452
and she really
came off like that.
265
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Sandy was very smart,
but she was very needy.
266
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You got that sense
that she was entitled.
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She has remained
one of Charlie's
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most ardent followers.
269
00:14:48,256 --> 00:14:51,563
Susan Atkins was definitely
more worldly.
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She'd been a stripper, maybe
she'd even been a sex worker.
271
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You know, she'd been
around the block.
272
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Gypsy came to the Family
at Spahn Ranch.
273
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Gypsy liked that lifestyle.
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She was playful.
She played the violin.
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She was definitely
a true hippie.
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I was closest
to, really, Lynette.
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Lynette was kind of
looking out after George.
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Lynette was really the closest
confidante to Charlie.
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He confided more in her
than anybody.
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And I think that Charlie
played a different role
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for each one of us.
282
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I was falling
under Charlie's spell.
283
00:15:52,494 --> 00:15:57,281
- We were in a group marriage
with all the lines blurred.
284
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We were brothers, sisters,
285
00:15:59,066 --> 00:16:03,331
mothers, fathers, lovers,
everything to each other.
286
00:16:05,681 --> 00:16:07,465
One of the reasons
we were pulled to Charlie
287
00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:09,337
was because
he was a musician.
288
00:16:09,380 --> 00:16:11,817
All of us wanted
to be musicians,
289
00:16:11,861 --> 00:16:14,864
and that's what we did every
single night is play music.
290
00:16:14,907 --> 00:16:17,301
[upbeat guitar music]
291
00:16:17,345 --> 00:16:21,523
- ♪ Walking all alone
not going anywhere ♪
292
00:16:21,566 --> 00:16:25,657
♪ Walking all alone
and nobody seemed to care ♪
293
00:16:25,701 --> 00:16:30,053
♪ Restless as the wind,
this town is killing me ♪
294
00:16:30,097 --> 00:16:33,709
♪ Got to put an end
to this restless misery ♪
295
00:16:37,365 --> 00:16:40,324
- Usually we'd get
in the circle,
296
00:16:40,368 --> 00:16:44,763
and Charlie would
administer the acid,
297
00:16:44,807 --> 00:16:47,288
like a sacrament, almost.
298
00:16:49,768 --> 00:16:54,773
Taking LSD, you can see
the trees growing.
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I mean, you just
really feel like at one
300
00:16:57,820 --> 00:17:01,171
with the Earth
and the universe.
301
00:17:01,215 --> 00:17:02,433
I mean,
you just kind of like,
302
00:17:02,477 --> 00:17:05,741
everything starts
making more sense.
303
00:17:10,224 --> 00:17:12,095
And then at some point,
304
00:17:12,139 --> 00:17:15,707
he would orchestrate
a love-in,
305
00:17:15,751 --> 00:17:19,755
you know, an orgy,
for lack of a better word.
306
00:17:19,798 --> 00:17:22,540
I mean, we didn't think
of it as an orgy,
307
00:17:22,584 --> 00:17:24,760
but that's really what it was.
308
00:17:24,803 --> 00:17:27,545
[gentle music]
309
00:17:27,589 --> 00:17:30,418
We were dependent
upon each other.
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He didn't want us to think
about our families.
311
00:17:36,293 --> 00:17:38,426
Forget your parents.
312
00:17:38,991 --> 00:17:40,558
You know,
get rid of your inhibitions.
313
00:17:40,602 --> 00:17:43,561
You know, what the outside
society says is wrong.
314
00:17:43,605 --> 00:17:45,998
You know, we're going
in the right direction.
315
00:17:46,042 --> 00:17:50,438
♪
316
00:17:50,481 --> 00:17:53,571
[The Litter's "Action Woman"]
317
00:17:53,615 --> 00:17:58,272
♪
318
00:17:58,315 --> 00:18:01,405
- ♪ Hey Miss High and Mighty
319
00:18:01,449 --> 00:18:05,105
♪ I've had all I can take
320
00:18:05,148 --> 00:18:08,369
♪ Walking right on by me
321
00:18:09,021 --> 00:18:11,763
♪ That's your last mistake ♪
322
00:18:11,807 --> 00:18:15,637
♪ I've got to find
myself some action ♪
323
00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,596
♪ Before I lose my mind
324
00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,251
- This is Hollywood,
the most famous,
325
00:18:21,295 --> 00:18:23,340
the most glamorous place
in the world.
326
00:18:23,384 --> 00:18:26,169
It's a place of dreams,
hopes, and riches.
327
00:18:26,213 --> 00:18:28,998
Let's go Hollywood backstage
and see this unique
328
00:18:29,041 --> 00:18:31,957
and fascinating place
called Hollywood.
329
00:18:32,001 --> 00:18:34,786
♪
330
00:18:34,830 --> 00:18:39,922
- The Hollywood scene
was quite a vibrant scene.
331
00:18:40,575 --> 00:18:43,839
It was a period when
the Beach Boys were very big,
332
00:18:43,882 --> 00:18:46,058
Buffalo Springfield,
the Byrds.
333
00:18:46,102 --> 00:18:49,497
They were all coming up fast.
They were all big.
334
00:18:50,193 --> 00:18:51,803
The scene in the nightclubs
335
00:18:51,847 --> 00:18:55,067
was a crazy mélange
of characters
336
00:18:55,111 --> 00:18:56,634
from the rock and roll world
337
00:18:56,678 --> 00:18:58,680
and characters
from the underworld.
338
00:19:01,030 --> 00:19:03,641
You could see the celebrities
hanging out
339
00:19:03,685 --> 00:19:08,255
at Jack Hanson's Daisy Club
in Beverly Hills.
340
00:19:08,690 --> 00:19:13,999
Jack Hanson and his wife,
Sally, designed Jack Slacks.
341
00:19:14,043 --> 00:19:16,001
- Hollywood is the place
342
00:19:16,045 --> 00:19:18,482
where women
started wearing pants,
343
00:19:18,526 --> 00:19:21,006
led by Marlene Dietrich
in the '30s.
344
00:19:21,050 --> 00:19:24,358
Slacks are now an accepted
item of feminine apparel.
345
00:19:24,401 --> 00:19:26,664
But at Jack's
of Beverly Hills,
346
00:19:26,708 --> 00:19:29,754
they achieve
a new, impressive status.
347
00:19:29,798 --> 00:19:33,193
- He could make women,
particularly actresses,
348
00:19:33,236 --> 00:19:36,239
look sleek and sexy.
349
00:19:36,283 --> 00:19:38,067
Jack made a lot
of money from it,
350
00:19:38,110 --> 00:19:40,548
and he opened his own club.
351
00:19:40,591 --> 00:19:43,028
You didn't apply
for membership to Jack's.
352
00:19:43,072 --> 00:19:45,117
You were invited to join.
353
00:19:45,161 --> 00:19:49,252
Steve McQueen, Roman Polanski
there with Sharon Tate.
354
00:19:49,296 --> 00:19:51,341
Then of course,
there was Jay Sebring,
355
00:19:51,385 --> 00:19:53,778
who earned huge
amounts of money
356
00:19:53,822 --> 00:19:57,217
for giving a movie star
a haircut.
357
00:19:58,392 --> 00:19:59,958
And they could go wild,
358
00:20:00,002 --> 00:20:02,047
and they could know
that no paparazzi
359
00:20:02,091 --> 00:20:04,441
would take their picture.
360
00:20:04,485 --> 00:20:06,704
Drugs were being used.
361
00:20:06,748 --> 00:20:08,793
If you saw it,
you didn't talk about it.
362
00:20:09,794 --> 00:20:12,580
Many stars were
probably looking
363
00:20:12,623 --> 00:20:14,582
for a little bit
of an extra kick,
364
00:20:14,625 --> 00:20:18,281
so anybody with kind of
a rough reputation
365
00:20:18,325 --> 00:20:20,414
might have been adopted
into the scene.
366
00:20:34,123 --> 00:20:37,082
- They're doing this movie
in Topanga Canyon,
367
00:20:37,126 --> 00:20:39,171
just a stupid nudie cutie,
368
00:20:39,215 --> 00:20:42,740
and they want a bunch of girls
that can look like Indians.
369
00:20:42,784 --> 00:20:44,916
I read for them,
and they said,
370
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,094
"We'd like to offer you
one of the main roles."
371
00:20:49,138 --> 00:20:52,533
So that was "Ramrodder."
372
00:20:55,057 --> 00:20:58,103
I show up,
and just a little ways off
373
00:20:58,147 --> 00:21:01,977
I see this stunningly
handsome young man.
374
00:21:03,674 --> 00:21:08,331
And he came over, and he got
really, really close,
375
00:21:08,375 --> 00:21:12,596
and he said,
"I'm your love interest."
376
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,817
And he said, "Do you mind
if I get a preview?"
377
00:21:18,036 --> 00:21:20,952
He lifted my top and goes,
378
00:21:20,996 --> 00:21:23,955
"Perfect,
just like I thought."
379
00:21:23,999 --> 00:21:27,307
Turned around and said,
"I'll see you later."
380
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:28,873
And that's how I met Bobby.
381
00:21:29,483 --> 00:21:34,966
♪
382
00:21:35,010 --> 00:21:38,840
- Topanga was laid back
compared to Los Angeles.
383
00:21:38,883 --> 00:21:41,146
You had the feeling that
you were out in the country,
384
00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:45,020
even though it was
fairly close to civilization.
385
00:21:47,022 --> 00:21:50,155
The first time I met Charlie
was down in the Topanga Canyon
386
00:21:50,199 --> 00:21:51,331
where it meets the highway.
387
00:21:53,420 --> 00:21:57,641
I heard music coming
from this old wooden house.
388
00:21:57,685 --> 00:21:59,991
I went up
the spiral staircase.
389
00:22:00,035 --> 00:22:03,038
There was a guy in a plaid
shirt singing, playing guitar.
390
00:22:04,561 --> 00:22:06,476
I started playing
this little instrument
391
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,999
I found on the table,
392
00:22:08,043 --> 00:22:10,393
and just did the best
I could to fit in
393
00:22:10,437 --> 00:22:12,526
with the man who was singing,
394
00:22:12,569 --> 00:22:16,051
who I was later introduced
to as Charlie.
395
00:22:17,705 --> 00:22:20,185
After I moved into Topanga,
396
00:22:20,229 --> 00:22:22,623
I wanted to try to get
some jobs playing guitar.
397
00:22:23,275 --> 00:22:26,366
One day I did get a call
from the bass player
398
00:22:26,409 --> 00:22:28,368
in a band called
The Milky Way.
399
00:22:28,411 --> 00:22:32,067
The band was built around the
songs that Charlie was doing.
400
00:22:32,763 --> 00:22:36,201
We played at the Topanga Corral I think two nights
401
00:22:36,245 --> 00:22:38,769
or three nights
before we were fired.
402
00:22:40,162 --> 00:22:42,382
I wasn't gonna
join his commune.
403
00:22:42,425 --> 00:22:44,209
I had no interest in that,
404
00:22:44,253 --> 00:22:46,951
but he is a person,
as a musician,
405
00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:49,301
I did have an interest in.
406
00:22:49,345 --> 00:22:51,608
I thought he was
worth investing
407
00:22:51,652 --> 00:22:53,915
a little of myself in.
408
00:22:55,046 --> 00:22:59,921
It was enough of an interest
to me that I kept coming back.
409
00:23:00,095 --> 00:23:07,102
♪ ♪
410
00:23:22,291 --> 00:23:24,424
[mellow guitar music]
411
00:23:24,467 --> 00:23:25,773
- ♪ Pretty girl
412
00:23:27,165 --> 00:23:30,430
- A couple of girls
met Dennis Wilson.
413
00:23:30,473 --> 00:23:32,083
He picked 'em up hitchhiking,
414
00:23:32,127 --> 00:23:34,825
and they introduced him
to Charlie.
415
00:23:34,869 --> 00:23:38,263
- ♪ Cease to exist
416
00:23:38,307 --> 00:23:41,092
♪ Just come
and say you love me ♪
417
00:23:41,136 --> 00:23:43,573
- I think the two must have
hit it off.
418
00:23:43,617 --> 00:23:45,140
Suddenly we were, like,
living there.
419
00:23:46,620 --> 00:23:50,014
- Give up your world ♪
420
00:23:50,058 --> 00:23:53,627
♪ Never learn
not to love you ♪
421
00:23:55,150 --> 00:23:58,196
- When we first drove
into Dennis Wilson's estate,
422
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,372
there was peacocks
roaming around
423
00:24:00,416 --> 00:24:02,853
and big eucalyptus trees,
424
00:24:02,897 --> 00:24:07,031
and just a rambling log home
with a lot of glass.
425
00:24:09,860 --> 00:24:11,993
It was really beautiful.
426
00:24:14,517 --> 00:24:16,824
There was a guest house.
427
00:24:19,174 --> 00:24:21,002
Big swimming pool.
428
00:24:27,356 --> 00:24:31,186
Just a beautiful place,
the inside, huge fireplace.
429
00:24:31,229 --> 00:24:34,232
Fireplace that
you could walk into.
430
00:24:36,191 --> 00:24:39,542
Charlie was teaching Dennis
how to play the guitar,
431
00:24:39,586 --> 00:24:45,635
and Dennis welcomed Charlie
and us girls into his home,
432
00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:49,639
and we would take his Rolls
Royce and go dumpster diving.
433
00:24:49,683 --> 00:24:51,815
We made food,
and he was impressed.
434
00:24:51,859 --> 00:24:54,818
I remember making the
strawberry cake, you know?
435
00:24:54,862 --> 00:24:57,517
And he was like,
"Wow, this came out of a--"
436
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,519
You know, "This came out
of a dumpster?"
437
00:25:01,477 --> 00:25:03,174
He would introduce Charlie
438
00:25:03,218 --> 00:25:06,090
to his other musician friends
with pride.
439
00:25:06,134 --> 00:25:09,180
- [Charlie] Common people,
man, so...
440
00:25:09,224 --> 00:25:13,010
- Both Terry Melcher
and Gregg Jakobson came
441
00:25:13,054 --> 00:25:16,536
and listened to Charlie
play the guitar and sing.
442
00:25:17,580 --> 00:25:19,930
- Dennis called me up
and was very excited,
443
00:25:19,974 --> 00:25:21,410
and said, "Come on,
you've got to meet this guy
444
00:25:21,453 --> 00:25:23,543
and these girls,"
and he went on and on.
445
00:25:23,586 --> 00:25:27,590
And sure enough, it was
quite an interesting scene.
446
00:25:27,634 --> 00:25:29,374
Everybody was having
a good time,
447
00:25:29,418 --> 00:25:31,289
drinking beer,
smoking a joint.
448
00:25:31,333 --> 00:25:33,553
Girls were in
the swimming pool.
449
00:25:34,597 --> 00:25:37,382
Charlie was inside,
and he was very demanding.
450
00:25:37,426 --> 00:25:39,907
He did garner your attention.
451
00:25:39,950 --> 00:25:41,865
He was
a fascinating character.
452
00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:43,388
He was really interesting.
453
00:25:43,432 --> 00:25:45,216
- If you had a camera,
I could dance.
454
00:25:45,260 --> 00:25:47,871
- Dennis used to call
Charlie "the Wizard."
455
00:25:47,915 --> 00:25:51,092
He really thought
that Charlie was magical.
456
00:25:51,135 --> 00:25:53,442
In the beginning,
he was really enamored by him.
457
00:25:53,485 --> 00:25:56,053
- I wrote about a couple
hundred songs, you know?
458
00:25:56,097 --> 00:26:01,581
- Dennis had an affinity
for finding the waifs
459
00:26:01,624 --> 00:26:03,713
and people
that seemed to be misfits.
460
00:26:03,757 --> 00:26:06,237
They would all seem
to find him.
461
00:26:06,281 --> 00:26:09,632
That's where Charlie Manson
came into the scene.
462
00:26:09,676 --> 00:26:12,504
He was one
of Dennis's projects.
463
00:26:12,548 --> 00:26:15,246
- [chuckles] Huh?
Yeah, well, I mean, you know--
464
00:26:15,290 --> 00:26:19,816
- He wasn't a friend of mine,
but I knew him.
465
00:26:19,860 --> 00:26:23,080
And he would find
the places that we were,
466
00:26:23,124 --> 00:26:25,909
and he would just be there.
467
00:26:25,953 --> 00:26:28,433
I just thought he was
a seedy little character,
468
00:26:28,477 --> 00:26:31,436
and I just, you know,
and he also didn't bathe.
469
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,960
And none of those people did.
470
00:26:33,003 --> 00:26:35,745
And so you knew
he was there a block away,
471
00:26:35,789 --> 00:26:38,443
just, you know,
'cause that's who he was.
472
00:26:38,487 --> 00:26:40,750
- The smartest people
in the world
473
00:26:40,794 --> 00:26:42,970
are really the most cut off.
474
00:26:44,319 --> 00:26:46,930
- And he would make you
listen to this guy,
475
00:26:46,974 --> 00:26:48,932
and people were doing it
to humor Dennis,
476
00:26:48,976 --> 00:26:50,760
or because of who he was,
477
00:26:50,804 --> 00:26:52,806
people were giving him
the respect.
478
00:26:52,849 --> 00:26:55,373
- Take all the words away
479
00:26:55,417 --> 00:26:56,984
and don't think
in right and wrong.
480
00:26:57,027 --> 00:27:00,552
Just think in truth
and all the answers are there.
481
00:27:00,596 --> 00:27:02,293
The weirdest thing was
482
00:27:02,337 --> 00:27:04,687
first the parties
were in the guest house,
483
00:27:04,731 --> 00:27:06,950
and this Manson and his crew
would be there.
484
00:27:06,994 --> 00:27:09,561
And then it
kind of flipped itself,
485
00:27:09,605 --> 00:27:12,956
and Dennis moved those people
into his house,
486
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,481
and he stayed in the guest
house on his own property.
487
00:27:16,525 --> 00:27:21,399
So, for some reason, Charlie
was able to manipulate him.
488
00:27:21,443 --> 00:27:23,010
- Oh, yeah, this'll make
you some money.
489
00:27:23,053 --> 00:27:24,707
This is a money song, yeah.
490
00:27:24,751 --> 00:27:27,144
- Charles had convinced him
that the music
491
00:27:27,188 --> 00:27:28,972
that he was playing was good,
492
00:27:29,016 --> 00:27:31,496
and that he was
gonna be a superstar,
493
00:27:31,540 --> 00:27:34,369
and so I guess Dennis
went along with it,
494
00:27:34,412 --> 00:27:37,154
I guess, and tried
introducing him to people,
495
00:27:37,198 --> 00:27:39,983
and to try to get him
a record deal and all of that.
496
00:27:40,027 --> 00:27:41,898
- You do whatever
you feel, man.
497
00:27:41,942 --> 00:27:43,204
- Yeah, well, then I won't--
I won't do--
498
00:27:43,247 --> 00:27:44,553
- You know, whatever comes
in your mind.
499
00:27:44,596 --> 00:27:46,686
- Yeah, all right.
- I'm just sitting here,
500
00:27:46,729 --> 00:27:48,513
gonna groove with you
for the next hour and a half,
501
00:27:48,557 --> 00:27:49,819
or hour and 45--
502
00:27:49,863 --> 00:27:51,995
- We went to Brian Wilson's
503
00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:55,695
to a session that they were
gonna record maybe a demo.
504
00:27:56,565 --> 00:27:59,046
- Let's see, hmm-hm.
505
00:27:59,089 --> 00:28:00,221
[gentle guitar music]
506
00:28:00,264 --> 00:28:04,965
♪ There's a time for living
507
00:28:05,617 --> 00:28:10,710
♪ The time keeps on flying ♪
508
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:14,061
♪ Think you're loving baby ♪
509
00:28:14,104 --> 00:28:17,020
♪ And all you're doing
is crying ♪
510
00:28:17,064 --> 00:28:21,198
♪ Can you feel
are those feelings real ♪
511
00:28:21,242 --> 00:28:24,245
♪ Look at your game, girl
512
00:28:25,899 --> 00:28:29,729
♪ Look at your game, girl
513
00:28:29,772 --> 00:28:33,602
♪ What a sad, sad game
514
00:28:33,645 --> 00:28:37,084
♪ Mad game
515
00:28:38,781 --> 00:28:42,263
♪ Sad game
516
00:29:01,108 --> 00:29:03,240
- Summer was coming
to an end.
517
00:29:03,284 --> 00:29:04,589
At some point,
Dennis would have to leave.
518
00:29:04,633 --> 00:29:06,287
The Beach Boys
were gonna go on the road.
519
00:29:07,984 --> 00:29:11,031
And that's when things
would start to fall apart.
520
00:29:12,293 --> 00:29:14,469
I remember at one point
Dennis is gone,
521
00:29:14,512 --> 00:29:16,645
One of the accountants
for Dennis says,
522
00:29:16,688 --> 00:29:21,476
"You have a $1,200
Alta Dena Dairy bill."
523
00:29:22,346 --> 00:29:23,826
They were
charging everything.
524
00:29:23,870 --> 00:29:25,697
They would--The Alta Dena
Dairy man would, like,
525
00:29:25,741 --> 00:29:28,265
be unloading his truck
there at the place.
526
00:29:28,309 --> 00:29:30,790
So that started
to play on Dennis.
527
00:29:31,138 --> 00:29:33,618
He didn't want people
to take advantage of him,
528
00:29:33,662 --> 00:29:36,360
nobody does, and that became
more and more apparent
529
00:29:36,404 --> 00:29:38,493
that that's
what was going on.
530
00:29:39,363 --> 00:29:41,365
That was, maybe more
than anything else,
531
00:29:41,409 --> 00:29:43,803
the formal beginning
of the split,
532
00:29:43,846 --> 00:29:45,805
of going their separate ways.
533
00:29:47,589 --> 00:29:49,634
He was gonna go away
for two weeks, on the road,
534
00:29:49,678 --> 00:29:51,158
and he said, "Gregg,
can you get me out of here?
535
00:29:51,201 --> 00:29:52,986
Can you find a house for me?"
536
00:29:53,377 --> 00:29:55,684
So, literally, I hired
a moving company
537
00:29:55,727 --> 00:29:58,339
to take Dennis's personal
stuff out of there.
538
00:30:00,254 --> 00:30:02,299
And the whole idea
was to not let
539
00:30:02,343 --> 00:30:03,866
the girls and Charlie know.
540
00:30:03,910 --> 00:30:05,955
He was really trying
to divorce himself from that.
541
00:30:05,999 --> 00:30:07,652
He was really done with it.
542
00:30:07,696 --> 00:30:09,567
all: We want the Beach Boys!
543
00:30:09,611 --> 00:30:12,875
We want the Beach Boys!
We want the Beach Boys!
544
00:30:15,922 --> 00:30:18,402
[dramatic music]
545
00:30:19,012 --> 00:30:26,062
♪
546
00:30:27,237 --> 00:30:31,851
- In 1967, '68 and '69,
547
00:30:33,026 --> 00:30:36,507
we had bigotry,
racial prejudice.
548
00:30:36,551 --> 00:30:39,554
[all chanting]
549
00:30:39,597 --> 00:30:42,818
And there were race riots
in every major American city.
550
00:30:43,427 --> 00:30:45,516
- The simple fact is this.
551
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,085
We are in the worst crisis we
have known since the Civil War.
552
00:30:49,129 --> 00:30:50,521
And time is running short
553
00:30:50,565 --> 00:30:52,784
to try to find
some answers to it.
554
00:30:52,828 --> 00:30:57,180
[all singing]
555
00:30:57,224 --> 00:30:59,226
This was the image
of the negro revolution
556
00:30:59,269 --> 00:31:01,184
only a few years ago.
557
00:31:01,228 --> 00:31:04,100
Negro and white,
side by side.
558
00:31:04,144 --> 00:31:06,363
Patient negroes.
559
00:31:06,407 --> 00:31:09,192
The violence we saw was quite.
560
00:31:09,236 --> 00:31:11,194
We saw negroes hosed
and beaten,
561
00:31:11,238 --> 00:31:12,935
harassed with dogs.
562
00:31:14,981 --> 00:31:18,375
Then, abruptly, shatteringly,
the images were different.
563
00:31:18,419 --> 00:31:22,727
"Burn, baby, burn" drowned out
"We shall overcome."
564
00:31:22,771 --> 00:31:26,601
♪
565
00:31:30,257 --> 00:31:32,650
- America is shocked
and saddened
566
00:31:32,694 --> 00:31:38,439
by the brutal slaying tonight
of Dr. Martin Luther King.
567
00:31:38,482 --> 00:31:44,836
I ask every citizen to reject
the blind violence
568
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,057
that has struck Dr. King.
569
00:31:48,101 --> 00:31:50,407
- When the racists
shot Martin Luther King,
570
00:31:50,451 --> 00:31:52,757
the bullet that killed him
killed non-violence.
571
00:31:52,801 --> 00:31:56,065
- During rebellions, brother,
you got to stop looting
572
00:31:56,109 --> 00:31:57,762
and start shooting.
573
00:31:57,806 --> 00:31:58,938
Black power, brothers.
574
00:31:58,981 --> 00:32:00,678
- Black power!
575
00:32:00,722 --> 00:32:03,246
- Charlie Manson thought
black people were inferior,
576
00:32:03,290 --> 00:32:05,335
but he also feared them.
577
00:32:05,379 --> 00:32:09,122
He began by being afraid
of the black Muslims in prison.
578
00:32:09,165 --> 00:32:10,950
[all chanting]
579
00:32:10,993 --> 00:32:14,562
So what Charlie talks about
is a race war's coming.
580
00:32:15,345 --> 00:32:19,088
- The call was for violence,
and it filled the air,
581
00:32:19,132 --> 00:32:21,308
it seemed, everywhere.
582
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:23,701
I saw myself reflected
583
00:32:23,745 --> 00:32:26,574
in the wildness
of their hopes and stares.
584
00:32:29,316 --> 00:32:33,146
- We have been too non-violent!
Too non-violent!
585
00:32:33,189 --> 00:32:35,800
- You are either for it
or you are against it.
586
00:32:35,844 --> 00:32:40,762
- There is no such thing
as a non-violent revolution!
587
00:32:41,284 --> 00:32:43,199
- He was convincing them,
588
00:32:43,243 --> 00:32:46,115
they were either gonna be
murdered by the blacks,
589
00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:48,509
or the blacks
would make them slaves.
590
00:32:48,552 --> 00:32:51,729
♪
591
00:32:52,556 --> 00:32:55,124
The problem for a guru
is if you promise
592
00:32:55,168 --> 00:32:56,734
that some great thing
is gonna happen
593
00:32:56,778 --> 00:32:59,389
and it doesn't, you've
let down your followers.
594
00:32:59,433 --> 00:33:01,870
You don't have
the magic after all.
595
00:33:01,913 --> 00:33:04,699
So you've got to do
the sleight of hand.
596
00:33:05,134 --> 00:33:08,485
He's playing them the Beatles'
"White Album" over and over,
597
00:33:08,529 --> 00:33:11,488
and "Hear the messages
the Beatles are sending us."
598
00:33:11,532 --> 00:33:14,143
"Blackbird"
works in very well,
599
00:33:14,187 --> 00:33:16,754
"Piggies"
works in very well.
600
00:33:16,798 --> 00:33:18,321
Then there's the song,
"Helter Skelter,"
601
00:33:18,365 --> 00:33:20,062
coming down fast.
602
00:33:22,195 --> 00:33:26,503
One of Charlie's basic creeds
is that there is no crime,
603
00:33:26,547 --> 00:33:30,420
there is no sin,
that it's all just a game,
604
00:33:30,464 --> 00:33:32,509
and that God's getting ready
605
00:33:32,553 --> 00:33:35,512
to pull down the curtain
on this game
606
00:33:35,556 --> 00:33:39,212
and start it over again
with his chosen people.
607
00:33:39,951 --> 00:33:41,779
And that when
Helter Skelter comes down,
608
00:33:41,823 --> 00:33:44,869
that the cities
are gonna be mass hysteria,
609
00:33:44,913 --> 00:33:46,697
and that the beast will fall,
610
00:33:46,741 --> 00:33:48,569
and the black man
will take over.
611
00:33:49,265 --> 00:33:51,528
♪
612
00:33:51,572 --> 00:33:53,530
- So what do you want to do?
You want to die,
613
00:33:53,574 --> 00:33:55,532
or do you want to come with me
and rule the world?
614
00:33:55,576 --> 00:33:57,056
[all chanting]
615
00:33:57,099 --> 00:34:01,234
♪
616
00:34:06,413 --> 00:34:09,111
- These communes undergo
a metamorphosis
617
00:34:09,155 --> 00:34:11,070
as this kind of culture
is established.
618
00:34:11,113 --> 00:34:14,638
I think it's rather benign,
but as it continues on,
619
00:34:14,682 --> 00:34:17,119
I think the degree
of criminality increases
620
00:34:17,163 --> 00:34:20,122
until the whole spectrum
of criminal activity
621
00:34:20,166 --> 00:34:22,603
is ultimately a result.
622
00:34:22,951 --> 00:34:26,085
[indistinct chatter]
623
00:34:29,131 --> 00:34:31,220
- We'd been at Dennis's house.
624
00:34:31,264 --> 00:34:33,744
That had all,
you know, ended.
625
00:34:33,788 --> 00:34:38,532
Dennis had moved out, and then
we moved back to Spahn Ranch.
626
00:34:38,836 --> 00:34:41,665
And that's when things
627
00:34:41,709 --> 00:34:46,105
started going a little,
little crazier.
628
00:34:49,804 --> 00:34:53,590
The recording thing had--
didn't go well with Dennis.
629
00:34:53,634 --> 00:34:56,767
And then they were still
kind of dangling a carrot,
630
00:34:56,811 --> 00:35:00,293
you know, to make a record,
and then that didn't happen.
631
00:35:00,336 --> 00:35:03,296
And after that,
632
00:35:03,339 --> 00:35:06,734
then all the energy
was about getting money.
633
00:35:09,302 --> 00:35:11,782
We got introduced
to the desert.
634
00:35:11,826 --> 00:35:14,611
Race war, the Helter Skelter
was gonna take place,
635
00:35:14,655 --> 00:35:16,831
and that this was gonna be
a hiding place.
636
00:35:16,874 --> 00:35:18,876
[uneasy music]
637
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,445
Most of the people
on the Earth would be gone,
638
00:35:22,489 --> 00:35:25,056
and so he wanted
beautiful people
639
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:28,147
to help repopulate and rule.
640
00:35:28,190 --> 00:35:29,583
[coyotes howling]
641
00:35:29,626 --> 00:35:33,195
And that's when I realized
everything had changed.
642
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,678
♪
643
00:35:37,721 --> 00:35:41,812
The Straight Satans, the
motorcycle gang was involved,
644
00:35:41,856 --> 00:35:44,641
and there were knives,
and there were guns.
645
00:35:44,685 --> 00:35:46,991
They were
like a protection,
646
00:35:47,035 --> 00:35:50,865
and a provider of weapons.
647
00:35:54,042 --> 00:35:56,827
Danny DeCarlo was probably
like the leader,
648
00:35:56,871 --> 00:36:01,658
or the most vocal and
the most friendly with Charlie.
649
00:36:01,702 --> 00:36:03,660
- When did Charlie
start to change.
650
00:36:03,704 --> 00:36:06,185
Initially he
didn't like the guns.
651
00:36:06,228 --> 00:36:07,664
- A couple months,
652
00:36:07,708 --> 00:36:10,363
because at first
he wasn't into it, you know?
653
00:36:11,233 --> 00:36:13,192
When I first went to the
ranch, I brought everything.
654
00:36:13,235 --> 00:36:15,237
I brought my whole arsenal up.
655
00:36:15,281 --> 00:36:17,239
You know, I had three rifles,
I had a couple of handguns,
656
00:36:17,283 --> 00:36:18,893
I brought a machine gun
out there.
657
00:36:20,286 --> 00:36:21,896
He got that machine gun
like John Wayne,
658
00:36:21,939 --> 00:36:23,202
spray that thing
all over the place,
659
00:36:23,245 --> 00:36:25,029
and bullets went everywhere.
660
00:36:25,073 --> 00:36:26,727
It made him feel good.
661
00:36:28,076 --> 00:36:29,425
We had fun.
662
00:36:29,469 --> 00:36:31,340
We had fun shooting guns.
663
00:36:31,384 --> 00:36:33,386
Forgot about that.
I did.
664
00:36:33,429 --> 00:36:34,778
- Who was the best shot?
665
00:36:34,822 --> 00:36:36,519
- Sadie.
I'd say Sadie was.
666
00:36:36,563 --> 00:36:38,913
You know,
firing the machine gun.
667
00:36:38,956 --> 00:36:40,567
- Did she get off on that?
668
00:36:40,610 --> 00:36:43,874
- Oh, everybody did.
I did too, watching them.
669
00:36:43,918 --> 00:36:46,355
[chuckles]
670
00:36:46,399 --> 00:36:50,098
♪
671
00:36:51,230 --> 00:36:54,624
- Back at Spahn Ranch,
now they're really building up
672
00:36:54,668 --> 00:36:58,541
this kind of army,
you know, really,
673
00:36:58,585 --> 00:37:03,154
and trying to get money
to fund guns and gas,
674
00:37:03,198 --> 00:37:06,375
and the different vehicles.
675
00:37:06,419 --> 00:37:12,903
♪
676
00:37:12,947 --> 00:37:15,254
[horse neighs]
677
00:37:24,350 --> 00:37:28,092
- Charlie sent word to Bobby,
who was living in Hollywood,
678
00:37:28,136 --> 00:37:30,573
with his then-girlfriend
Kitty Lutesinger,
679
00:37:30,617 --> 00:37:33,010
to come help us get protected.
680
00:37:33,054 --> 00:37:34,795
So Bobby came on the ranch,
681
00:37:34,838 --> 00:37:36,623
and he hung out
with the bikers,
682
00:37:36,666 --> 00:37:38,451
and he got enthralled
with them.
683
00:37:38,494 --> 00:37:41,584
He thought, you know,
iron horses, freedom,
684
00:37:41,628 --> 00:37:44,718
so he wanted
to be a prospect.
685
00:37:46,807 --> 00:37:49,766
- I really wanted to be
a part of it, you know?
686
00:37:49,810 --> 00:37:54,641
I was a wannabe and
I wanted to be accepted.
687
00:37:54,684 --> 00:37:57,121
I was building a bike,
I liked the lifestyle.
688
00:37:57,165 --> 00:37:58,949
The whole motorcycle culture,
689
00:37:58,993 --> 00:38:02,475
the biker culture represented
a kind of freedom
690
00:38:02,518 --> 00:38:04,781
that I longed for.
691
00:38:04,825 --> 00:38:08,655
I wanted to ingratiate
myself with the club.
692
00:38:08,698 --> 00:38:10,700
And when I heard
that they were looking
693
00:38:10,744 --> 00:38:12,789
to get some
sort of party drug,
694
00:38:12,833 --> 00:38:16,010
I offered to, you know,
score for them.
695
00:38:16,576 --> 00:38:18,665
The only guy I knew
who might have anything
696
00:38:18,708 --> 00:38:21,320
that would have been
of interest to them was Gary.
697
00:38:22,843 --> 00:38:25,802
After I left San Francisco
and went to L.A.,
698
00:38:25,846 --> 00:38:29,328
I met Gary Hinman,
who was a friend of a friend.
699
00:38:30,285 --> 00:38:34,637
He let me rent
for a very low rental fee
700
00:38:34,681 --> 00:38:37,901
the basement
of his little house.
701
00:38:38,815 --> 00:38:41,078
He had a baby grand piano
in the living room,
702
00:38:41,122 --> 00:38:44,865
which was also his bedroom
and also his library.
703
00:38:45,431 --> 00:38:48,825
He did teach piano
out at UCLA,
704
00:38:48,869 --> 00:38:51,524
played piano
for a dance troupe.
705
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:57,007
- Gary loved music.
He loved books.
706
00:38:57,051 --> 00:38:59,880
He went on to pursue
a master's program.
707
00:39:01,272 --> 00:39:05,538
His mother was very proud
of his musical ability.
708
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,368
He became involved
with Buddhism,
709
00:39:09,803 --> 00:39:11,674
and he and his parents
710
00:39:11,718 --> 00:39:15,504
were going to go to Japan
on a pilgrimage.
711
00:39:15,548 --> 00:39:17,854
His parents were paying
for the trip.
712
00:39:17,898 --> 00:39:20,074
He did not have
the money to do that.
713
00:39:21,728 --> 00:39:24,557
Gary was a gentle
human being.
714
00:39:26,167 --> 00:39:29,039
- Gary wasn't like
a real dealer by any means.
715
00:39:29,083 --> 00:39:30,693
He was just a guy
who sometimes
716
00:39:30,737 --> 00:39:32,695
helped to make ends meet
717
00:39:32,739 --> 00:39:35,263
by selling a little bit
of pot to his friends.
718
00:39:35,698 --> 00:39:38,092
Yeah, I did know
that Gary had some mescaline
719
00:39:38,135 --> 00:39:40,094
and Straight Satans
gave me some money
720
00:39:40,137 --> 00:39:41,704
to go score from Gary,
721
00:39:41,748 --> 00:39:44,098
and I went
and got mescaline for them.
722
00:39:44,794 --> 00:39:47,971
It was a really
stupid idea on my part
723
00:39:48,015 --> 00:39:50,147
that mescaline would be
a good thing
724
00:39:50,191 --> 00:39:52,672
to give to some bikers
for a party.
725
00:39:54,151 --> 00:39:58,155
They came back to me
and confronted me,
726
00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:00,462
saying that they thought
it was bunk.
727
00:40:00,506 --> 00:40:02,725
Some of the guys
had gotten sick on it.
728
00:40:02,769 --> 00:40:05,119
If guys are drinking beer
and popping red devils,
729
00:40:05,162 --> 00:40:07,251
they take mescaline
on top of that,
730
00:40:07,295 --> 00:40:09,123
yeah, they're gonna get sick.
731
00:40:10,037 --> 00:40:13,257
They wanted to get
their money back.
732
00:40:13,301 --> 00:40:16,260
[tense music]
733
00:40:16,304 --> 00:40:21,483
♪
734
00:40:23,311 --> 00:40:26,096
I thought I could just explain
what the problem was,
735
00:40:26,140 --> 00:40:28,011
and he would give me
the money back.
736
00:40:30,187 --> 00:40:33,930
Bruce and Danny drove me over,
and Mary Brunner and Sadie
737
00:40:33,974 --> 00:40:35,845
asked me
if they could come along,
738
00:40:35,889 --> 00:40:37,456
because they were
friends of Gary's.
739
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:41,808
Honestly, I didn't think
it was gonna be a big deal.
740
00:40:41,851 --> 00:40:44,985
I had the gun because
Bruce had given it to me.
741
00:40:45,028 --> 00:40:47,466
I guess Danny recommended
that I take the gun,
742
00:40:47,509 --> 00:40:49,816
and that it'd be, you know,
this sort of confrontation.
743
00:40:49,859 --> 00:40:51,513
I didn't see it that way,
744
00:40:51,557 --> 00:40:54,168
because I didn't see
Gary that way.
745
00:40:55,256 --> 00:40:57,780
We talked about it, and I
told him what had happened,
746
00:40:57,824 --> 00:41:00,479
and he says, "Well, Bobby,
I don't have the money."
747
00:41:01,828 --> 00:41:04,134
He showed me his wallet
and his checkbook.
748
00:41:04,178 --> 00:41:07,137
He had $57
in his checking account
749
00:41:07,181 --> 00:41:08,965
and a few bucks
in his wallet.
750
00:41:09,009 --> 00:41:11,664
And then I was starting
to get frantic.
751
00:41:12,534 --> 00:41:15,145
And so I did hit him with
the gun a couple of times.
752
00:41:15,189 --> 00:41:18,235
I didn't hit him very hard.
I'm just not that kind of guy.
753
00:41:18,279 --> 00:41:20,977
And that is exactly
what Gary said to me.
754
00:41:21,021 --> 00:41:23,632
He says,
"Bobby, this isn't you."
755
00:41:23,676 --> 00:41:25,808
You know,
and I apologized.
756
00:41:25,852 --> 00:41:27,810
I said, "I just--I need to
get something, Gary."
757
00:41:27,854 --> 00:41:29,856
I need to take something
back to these guys."
758
00:41:31,205 --> 00:41:33,686
I needed to be able
to look around the house
759
00:41:33,729 --> 00:41:36,384
for something that
might be worth some money.
760
00:41:36,906 --> 00:41:39,909
I gave the gun to Sadie,
told her, you know,
761
00:41:39,953 --> 00:41:43,347
like I'd seen done
in cowboy movies as a kid,
762
00:41:43,391 --> 00:41:46,220
"If he moves, shoot him."
763
00:41:48,048 --> 00:41:52,008
Sadie had begun yelling
that Gary had got the gun.
764
00:41:52,052 --> 00:41:54,358
I just immediately
ran into the kitchen
765
00:41:54,402 --> 00:41:57,361
and saw Gary trying
to turn the gun on me,
766
00:41:57,405 --> 00:41:59,538
and I just dove at him.
767
00:42:00,756 --> 00:42:02,366
I got my hands on the gun.
768
00:42:02,410 --> 00:42:06,588
As we were struggling,
then the gun went off.
769
00:42:06,632 --> 00:42:10,592
♪
770
00:42:10,636 --> 00:42:12,202
In that instant,
771
00:42:12,246 --> 00:42:14,378
with both of us looking
into each other's eyes,
772
00:42:14,422 --> 00:42:16,293
and I could see
the same thing in his eyes,
773
00:42:16,337 --> 00:42:17,904
that were--
that I was feeling,
774
00:42:17,947 --> 00:42:21,037
which was,
"I wonder if I've been shot."
775
00:42:21,081 --> 00:42:23,083
I was able to take
the gun from him.
776
00:42:24,388 --> 00:42:26,913
We both calmed down.
I put the gun away.
777
00:42:26,956 --> 00:42:30,177
And Gary and I sat down
at the table again.
778
00:42:31,134 --> 00:42:34,442
We came to the solution
that he would sign over
779
00:42:34,485 --> 00:42:39,229
the pink slips to his VW bus
and that little jalopy.
780
00:42:39,273 --> 00:42:42,276
The two of them
probably weren't worth
781
00:42:42,319 --> 00:42:45,279
what I was in debt
to the bikers over.
782
00:42:45,322 --> 00:42:47,977
What I didn't know
at the time
783
00:42:48,021 --> 00:42:51,764
was that one of the women
had called the ranch.
784
00:42:51,807 --> 00:42:54,244
[phone rings]
785
00:42:54,288 --> 00:42:55,811
- The phone rang.
786
00:42:55,855 --> 00:42:58,248
There wasn't anybody else
around, so I answered it.
787
00:42:58,292 --> 00:43:01,991
And it was Mary Brunner,
and she said, "Get Charlie."
788
00:43:05,212 --> 00:43:08,650
- After Gary had given me the
title to the two little cars,
789
00:43:08,694 --> 00:43:11,261
we were on
cordial terms again.
790
00:43:11,305 --> 00:43:14,351
Call it water under the bridge
and leave it behind.
791
00:43:16,223 --> 00:43:19,922
We became aware that someone
was coming to the front door,
792
00:43:19,966 --> 00:43:22,359
and Gary went to answer it.
793
00:43:22,403 --> 00:43:26,102
And he opened the door,
and said, "Hi, Charlie."
794
00:43:26,146 --> 00:43:28,365
And Charlie stepped
into the front door
795
00:43:28,409 --> 00:43:29,802
and just slashed him
across the face,
796
00:43:29,845 --> 00:43:32,152
not a word,
without warning.
797
00:43:33,501 --> 00:43:36,547
I said, "Charlie,
why did you do that?"
798
00:43:36,591 --> 00:43:41,291
And he said, exact words,
"Showing you how to be a man."
799
00:43:41,335 --> 00:43:44,294
♪
800
00:43:44,338 --> 00:43:47,776
And then Bruce turned to Gary
and says, "Where's the gun?"
801
00:43:47,820 --> 00:43:49,473
And I said, "I've got it."
802
00:43:49,517 --> 00:43:52,476
Bruce took the gun, as quick
as they came, they left,
803
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,175
and Charlie said, "Tell them
to clean this mess up."
804
00:43:56,524 --> 00:43:57,699
Gary was bleeding.
805
00:43:57,743 --> 00:43:59,483
He was holding his hand
up to his cheek,
806
00:43:59,527 --> 00:44:03,009
and maybe I was just horrified
and Gary was horrified.
807
00:44:05,272 --> 00:44:08,492
I spent the next day
with Gary.
808
00:44:08,536 --> 00:44:13,672
And I didn't know what
the fuck to do at that point.
809
00:44:14,107 --> 00:44:18,024
I was getting increasingly
desperate over the situation.
810
00:44:20,940 --> 00:44:22,681
So I called the ranch.
811
00:44:22,724 --> 00:44:24,857
[phone rings]
812
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:26,423
And got Charlie
on the phone and I said,
813
00:44:26,467 --> 00:44:29,209
"Man, you know,
you created this problem,
814
00:44:29,252 --> 00:44:31,733
"and I need you
to take it back,
815
00:44:31,777 --> 00:44:33,866
because I don't know
what to do."
816
00:44:34,388 --> 00:44:36,390
And he said something
to the effect,
817
00:44:36,433 --> 00:44:39,872
"You know what to do as well
as I do," and hung up on me.
818
00:44:44,398 --> 00:44:48,271
And maybe a half hour later,
I stabbed Gary to death.
819
00:44:59,587 --> 00:45:03,025
- He was found in the living
room directly up here,
820
00:45:03,069 --> 00:45:05,854
and he was lying on his back
with multiple stab wounds.
821
00:45:05,898 --> 00:45:07,856
He had been dead
approximately one week
822
00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:10,729
at the time
that he was found.
823
00:45:10,772 --> 00:45:13,601
After we entered the home,
we saw signs of a struggle,
824
00:45:13,644 --> 00:45:16,256
and it appeared as though
there had been a
825
00:45:16,952 --> 00:45:19,085
some degree of violence.
826
00:45:21,087 --> 00:45:23,219
I would never have
killed a man had Charlie
827
00:45:23,263 --> 00:45:26,222
not come into Gary's home,
slashed his face,
828
00:45:26,266 --> 00:45:29,965
and then left me there
with that responsibility.
829
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:36,755
I don't remember writing
in blood on the wall.
830
00:45:36,798 --> 00:45:38,931
I don't know
that I did that.
831
00:45:40,019 --> 00:45:42,456
I had always
assumed it was me.
832
00:45:47,461 --> 00:45:52,683
- I had seen Bobby and Mary
and Susan Atkins
833
00:45:52,727 --> 00:45:54,947
kind of huddled
and whispering.
834
00:45:56,296 --> 00:45:58,254
The twinkle in his eye
was gone.
835
00:45:58,298 --> 00:46:02,781
He looked scared
and didn't look like Bobby.
836
00:46:02,824 --> 00:46:04,086
So I asked him,
"What's wrong?"
837
00:46:04,130 --> 00:46:06,001
And he said, "Nothing."
838
00:46:06,045 --> 00:46:09,788
So, I said, "Okay."
And I just kept on walking.
839
00:46:11,833 --> 00:46:13,922
[coyote howling]
840
00:46:13,966 --> 00:46:16,925
[uneasy music]
841
00:46:16,969 --> 00:46:19,623
♪
842
00:46:19,667 --> 00:46:23,192
- Bobby Beausoleil,
in his stupidity,
843
00:46:23,236 --> 00:46:26,500
gets into the car of
the murder victim, Gary Hinman,
844
00:46:26,543 --> 00:46:30,156
and he drives 120 miles
to San Luis Obispo.
845
00:46:34,247 --> 00:46:39,469
- And drove off in Gary's car
with the murder weapon.
846
00:46:39,513 --> 00:46:41,645
- It was very early
in the morning.
847
00:46:41,689 --> 00:46:43,299
The car broke down.
848
00:46:43,343 --> 00:46:44,997
The engine was still smoking
849
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,955
when the Highway Patrol car
passed by.
850
00:46:46,999 --> 00:46:48,739
So I jumped
into the back seat
851
00:46:48,783 --> 00:46:51,307
and pretended to be asleep.
852
00:46:51,351 --> 00:46:55,137
I didn't know what I thought
that would do to help.
853
00:46:55,181 --> 00:46:56,617
- The highway patrolman
discovered,
854
00:46:56,660 --> 00:47:00,142
it is the car of the murder
victim, Gary Hinman.
855
00:47:00,186 --> 00:47:02,188
Mr. Beausoleil was arrested,
856
00:47:02,231 --> 00:47:04,973
accused
of first-degree murder.
857
00:47:05,017 --> 00:47:07,019
[camera shutters clicking]
858
00:47:17,377 --> 00:47:20,771
- After the murder,
Charlie leaves town.
859
00:47:21,337 --> 00:47:23,078
Things were getting
too crazy in L.A.
860
00:47:23,122 --> 00:47:26,342
[gentle music]
861
00:47:26,386 --> 00:47:29,780
♪
862
00:47:29,824 --> 00:47:32,958
- When I met Charlie,
I was 17 on a road trip.
863
00:47:34,568 --> 00:47:36,613
And we were on our way home,
it was probably about,
864
00:47:36,657 --> 00:47:38,528
I don't know, 3:00
in the morning or something.
865
00:47:38,572 --> 00:47:40,791
We stopped for gas.
866
00:47:40,835 --> 00:47:43,142
I went to go to the bathroom.
867
00:47:44,056 --> 00:47:45,927
There was Charlie,
868
00:47:45,971 --> 00:47:47,407
and a couple of fellows,
I think,
869
00:47:47,450 --> 00:47:50,105
that were just hitchhiking
were with him as well.
870
00:47:54,588 --> 00:47:56,764
He said some things, like,
"Well, what's a beautiful girl
871
00:47:56,807 --> 00:48:00,072
like you out here
so late at night?"
872
00:48:00,115 --> 00:48:02,117
And in just
a short period of time,
873
00:48:02,161 --> 00:48:03,205
he was able to tell me
874
00:48:03,249 --> 00:48:04,946
everything I ever
wanted to hear.
875
00:48:04,990 --> 00:48:06,556
"I bet your dad
doesn't really love you.
876
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,255
I bet nobody really
takes you seriously."
877
00:48:11,866 --> 00:48:13,955
And I was like,
wow, you know?
878
00:48:13,999 --> 00:48:16,915
And I saw there was guitars
in his van,
879
00:48:16,958 --> 00:48:19,091
and I thought,
"This is neat."
880
00:48:19,352 --> 00:48:21,310
We were near Big Sur,
881
00:48:21,354 --> 00:48:24,052
and I had always
wanted to see Big Sur.
882
00:48:24,096 --> 00:48:25,924
So I don't know what happened.
883
00:48:25,967 --> 00:48:28,927
I told the fellow
that I was with,
884
00:48:28,970 --> 00:48:31,930
I said, "I'm gonna go
with these guys."
885
00:48:31,973 --> 00:48:35,281
The attraction
was just immediate.
886
00:48:35,324 --> 00:48:37,065
Yeah.
887
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:44,246
♪
888
00:48:44,290 --> 00:48:47,510
We pulled up
to the Esalen Institute.
889
00:48:47,554 --> 00:48:49,425
He took his guitar
and he told me,
890
00:48:49,469 --> 00:48:52,254
"Stay in the van
while I go in there
891
00:48:52,298 --> 00:48:54,953
and I'll be back
in a little bit."
892
00:48:54,996 --> 00:48:58,043
So, okay, so I just waited.
893
00:49:03,004 --> 00:49:05,615
I think that he was thinking
that they were gonna be
894
00:49:05,659 --> 00:49:08,618
really blown away
by his talent,
895
00:49:08,662 --> 00:49:11,360
and, you know,
his music abilities,
896
00:49:11,404 --> 00:49:14,581
and, you know, ask him to come
back and possibly pay him.
897
00:49:16,887 --> 00:49:19,978
But, uh, they didn't.
898
00:49:22,371 --> 00:49:24,634
He was pretty upset
when he came back.
899
00:49:24,678 --> 00:49:27,637
The fact that these people
were not impressed
900
00:49:27,681 --> 00:49:30,989
with his talent
made him angry.
901
00:49:33,252 --> 00:49:35,123
Put his guitar in the van,
902
00:49:35,167 --> 00:49:38,997
and hardly said, you know,
two words, and off we went.
903
00:49:47,092 --> 00:49:49,703
When we met at
the gas station, I said,
904
00:49:49,746 --> 00:49:51,922
"If I go to Big Sur
with you,
905
00:49:51,966 --> 00:49:55,491
will you take me to
San Diego to get my things?"
906
00:49:55,535 --> 00:49:58,277
And he promised me
that he would.
907
00:49:59,452 --> 00:50:00,714
And he did.
908
00:50:08,374 --> 00:50:11,855
We spent a couple of hours
with my sister
909
00:50:11,899 --> 00:50:15,859
and Charlie,
and my sister's boyfriend,
910
00:50:15,903 --> 00:50:19,211
and I don't think
they were happy.
911
00:50:19,646 --> 00:50:22,257
You know, they were
on the outside looking in,
912
00:50:22,301 --> 00:50:24,346
and I don't think
they were real glad
913
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:28,785
that I was going with him,
but nevertheless, I was, so.
914
00:50:31,223 --> 00:50:32,702
Basically,
I didn't take much.
915
00:50:32,746 --> 00:50:36,750
A few clothes, my dog,
and my guitar.
916
00:50:46,281 --> 00:50:48,196
When we pulled up
to the ranch,
917
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:49,719
everything was turned over.
918
00:50:49,763 --> 00:50:53,201
Any clothes that I brought
went into a communal pile.
919
00:50:53,245 --> 00:50:55,638
My driver's license,
any money I had,
920
00:50:55,682 --> 00:50:58,206
which was probably
very, very little.
921
00:50:58,250 --> 00:51:00,121
Everything that
we had went into,
922
00:51:00,165 --> 00:51:02,210
like a communal pot,
923
00:51:02,254 --> 00:51:04,386
and everybody
just used whatever.
924
00:51:04,430 --> 00:51:07,433
Kind of gave up
your identity, you know?
925
00:51:08,260 --> 00:51:11,741
♪
926
00:51:11,785 --> 00:51:14,657
[indistinct singing]
927
00:51:14,701 --> 00:51:20,750
♪
928
00:51:20,794 --> 00:51:25,973
- I asked Charlie, "Hey, do
you know what's up with Bobby?"
929
00:51:26,016 --> 00:51:29,933
He said, "Yeah, he got busted
in a dead man's car,
930
00:51:29,977 --> 00:51:31,761
and now he's in for murder."
931
00:51:31,805 --> 00:51:34,155
And I said, "Bobby?"
932
00:51:34,199 --> 00:51:37,419
And he kind of said it
with disdain.
933
00:51:37,463 --> 00:51:39,769
And I said,
"Well, what jail is he in?
934
00:51:39,813 --> 00:51:41,031
I'll go see him."
935
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:43,469
And he said,
"I've got this covered.
936
00:51:43,512 --> 00:51:45,514
You stay out of it."
937
00:51:46,298 --> 00:51:48,300
♪
938
00:51:54,175 --> 00:51:57,135
[uneasy music]
939
00:51:57,178 --> 00:52:03,880
♪
940
00:52:03,924 --> 00:52:06,666
- In my world,
there is no wrong.
941
00:52:10,191 --> 00:52:12,846
You think that my mind is
like your mind, but it isn't.
942
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:18,156
This confusion belongs to you.
It's your confusion.
943
00:52:22,072 --> 00:52:26,164
Living is what scares me.
Dying is easy.
944
00:52:28,905 --> 00:52:30,864
- But there is something
else here.
945
00:52:30,907 --> 00:52:35,695
We have known what Manson did
without understanding why.
946
00:52:36,565 --> 00:52:39,655
- Charlie played a different
role for each one of us.
947
00:52:39,699 --> 00:52:42,310
- We were everything
to each other.
948
00:52:42,354 --> 00:52:44,834
- This wasn't
what I signed up for.
949
00:52:44,878 --> 00:52:46,836
- These were
America's children.
950
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,536
- It was the '60s.
It was a perfect storm.
951
00:52:50,579 --> 00:52:53,234
- People have been
brainwashed to believe
952
00:52:53,278 --> 00:52:55,541
the real reason
behind these murders
953
00:52:55,584 --> 00:52:57,543
was to start a race war.
954
00:52:58,587 --> 00:53:00,546
He said,
"Will you die for me?"
955
00:53:01,982 --> 00:53:04,854
- Helter Skelter
simply means confusion.
956
00:53:04,898 --> 00:53:10,947
♪
957
00:53:58,038 --> 00:54:00,258
- Greg, move your head.
958
00:54:04,958 --> 00:54:07,265
[lion roars]
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