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Are you worried about how things are in the US? 7 00:02:25,953 --> 00:02:30,833 Yes, but I hope it works out. 8 00:02:30,873 --> 00:02:37,053 -Is it a controversial turn�? - No, it'll be fine. 9 00:02:37,843 --> 00:02:41,033 - Why do you think so? -It will be fine. 10 00:02:45,853 --> 00:02:50,983 We will demonstrate to stop the appearance. 11 00:02:51,023 --> 00:02:57,953 There are small-time protesters were the only ones to protest. 12 00:02:58,983 --> 00:03:03,013 The Beatles were the biggest in the world. 13 00:03:04,063 --> 00:03:10,833 The Beatles were just as great as presidents and heads of state. 14 00:03:10,873 --> 00:03:14,993 - How are you? Can you say hello? -Hello. 15 00:03:15,033 --> 00:03:19,033 - Hey, guys. -Hello! 16 00:03:19,823 --> 00:03:23,033 -John, do you regret what you said? -Yes. 17 00:03:23,823 --> 00:03:30,063 They were much more popular ... I don't think of the name. 18 00:03:30,853 --> 00:03:36,062 But they were more popular in the church. There is no doubt about that. 19 00:03:36,853 --> 00:03:42,992 That's when the problems started, in the studio on radio WAQY- 20 00:03:43,033 --> 00:03:47,893 - which reaches 750000 listeners in Birmingham, Alabama. 21 00:03:47,932 --> 00:03:54,033 Tommy Charles had read what John Lennon had said about Christianity- 22 00:03:54,823 --> 00:03:58,033 -as previously had gone unnoticed. 23 00:03:58,823 --> 00:04:05,033 When Jesus was alive, it was probably around 300 people who heard him speak. 24 00:04:05,823 --> 00:04:08,973 Even if you think about the present, 25 00:04:09,013 --> 00:04:13,973 and what he means to society, So was the Beatles bigger. 26 00:04:14,013 --> 00:04:20,053 But at that time one was possessed by Jesus in the United States. 27 00:04:20,843 --> 00:04:24,993 I thank God for that that Jesus is popular with me. 28 00:04:25,033 --> 00:04:28,913 He saved me 31 years ago. 29 00:04:28,953 --> 00:04:33,833 - Is he popular with you? -Amen! 30 00:04:33,873 --> 00:04:40,823 The Beatles were not even qualified to talk about milk prices. 31 00:04:40,863 --> 00:04:45,013 They looked up feelings like mushrooms 32 00:04:45,053 --> 00:04:49,903 -s� they experienced that they grew twice as fast. 33 00:04:49,943 --> 00:04:56,923 I know Brian was worried before leaving for the United States. 34 00:04:56,963 --> 00:05:03,022 But it was innocently said by John, before they were bigger. 35 00:05:03,063 --> 00:05:07,853 More wanted the Beatles in church. 36 00:05:07,892 --> 00:05:13,873 - Are you worried about the Beatles? -Yes. 37 00:05:13,913 --> 00:05:16,053 -For what? - Their safety. 38 00:05:16,843 --> 00:05:20,903 - What can you do? -Not much. 39 00:05:20,943 --> 00:05:26,033 In that country security has always been great- 40 00:05:26,823 --> 00:05:33,863 -and the turns always have been well ranked. 41 00:05:33,903 --> 00:05:38,023 Memphis burned records too the guys were scared to get shot. 42 00:05:38,063 --> 00:05:42,013 It was weird. 43 00:05:42,052 --> 00:05:49,833 The criticism has come from the Bible. Will you reschedule the tour? 44 00:05:49,872 --> 00:05:53,993 -to avoid areas when you burn the band's records? 45 00:05:54,033 --> 00:05:59,873 No. I have talked to several promoters. 46 00:05:59,913 --> 00:06:04,062 Later I will have a meeting with some promoters. 47 00:06:04,853 --> 00:06:09,993 They are not worried about anything concerts will be staged. 48 00:06:10,032 --> 00:06:17,873 If the promoters would like put in a concert 49 00:06:17,913 --> 00:06:23,943 - I wouldn't look back. The Memphis Concert 50 00:06:23,983 --> 00:06:29,863 -which lies closest when it breaks out 51 00:06:29,903 --> 00:06:33,993 - sold more tickets yesterday They had done before. 52 00:06:34,032 --> 00:06:38,943 Tony Barrow advised Datebook about the interviews. 53 00:06:38,983 --> 00:06:45,053 He came to Art Unger, the editor, and said, "It suits you." 54 00:06:45,843 --> 00:06:50,883 But Art Unger sent it on to radio experts. 55 00:06:50,923 --> 00:06:56,853 He sent it to radio celebrities in Alabama. 56 00:06:56,893 --> 00:07:00,843 That's where it started. 57 00:07:10,033 --> 00:07:16,943 -Did you see your statement? - I've seen a version of it. 58 00:07:16,983 --> 00:07:22,863 - Can it be better now? -Yes, if it could be better before. 59 00:07:22,903 --> 00:07:30,033 But it wasn't that many upset as people made me believe. 60 00:07:30,823 --> 00:07:36,013 They decided not to Ask if John asked for excuse. 61 00:07:36,053 --> 00:07:40,033 He did, but reluctantly. 62 00:07:40,823 --> 00:07:44,983 My comparison was to England. 63 00:07:45,022 --> 00:07:48,993 We meant more to the youth Jesus. 64 00:07:49,033 --> 00:07:54,923 I didn't mean it as criticism. It was just facts. 65 00:07:54,963 --> 00:07:59,043 It is better in England than it is. 66 00:07:59,833 --> 00:08:02,053 I'm not saying we're better off. 67 00:08:02,842 --> 00:08:07,943 And I don't compare ourselves with Jesus or God. 68 00:08:07,983 --> 00:08:11,823 What I said was wrong. 69 00:08:11,863 --> 00:08:17,863 George said, "They just learn to buy more discs to replace those burnt. " 70 00:08:17,903 --> 00:08:23,983 What do you think? Does the group see what they think? 71 00:08:24,023 --> 00:08:27,983 Absolutely. I've never said anything else. 72 00:08:28,023 --> 00:08:35,873 Did you see that John would apologize? -We came up with it in common. 73 00:08:35,913 --> 00:08:39,003 I've never ruled over them ... 74 00:08:39,043 --> 00:08:45,043 -When it sounds good, the artistic or what they say. 75 00:08:45,833 --> 00:08:51,983 Everyone decides for themselves, and me contributes with one fifth of the thoughts. 76 00:08:52,023 --> 00:08:58,052 All that should happen at the end of a long world tour. 77 00:08:58,843 --> 00:09:02,983 Other things had happened. They had been killed in Japan. 78 00:09:03,023 --> 00:09:07,973 Then they were beaten in the Philippines to have nobbat Imelda Marcos- 79 00:09:08,013 --> 00:09:12,913 -and didn't come to her invitation. That was the drop. 80 00:09:12,953 --> 00:09:15,923 They thought they would be murdered. 81 00:09:15,963 --> 00:09:20,873 S� pass early people started thinking about it. 82 00:09:20,913 --> 00:09:26,063 - What happened at the airport in Manila? - They kicked and put us down. 83 00:09:26,852 --> 00:09:29,023 We were scared. 84 00:09:29,063 --> 00:09:34,833 How were you, George? - I was terrified. 85 00:09:34,873 --> 00:09:41,863 It was horrible. There were five big guys. 86 00:09:41,903 --> 00:09:44,983 - They were armed. - They kicked us. 87 00:09:45,023 --> 00:09:52,033 They wanted us to stay as ill-treated as possible- 88 00:09:52,823 --> 00:09:57,003 before we got to the airport. We hurried. 89 00:09:57,043 --> 00:10:02,893 I tried to avoid those people. They tried to pose problems. 90 00:10:02,932 --> 00:10:05,843 Yes, those were the five. 91 00:10:05,882 --> 00:10:10,833 - Did you carry your own luggage? Just for hand luggage. 92 00:10:10,873 --> 00:10:13,023 Our rowers should carry our bags. 93 00:10:13,063 --> 00:10:18,983 - They shut down the escalators. - We had to support the reinforcers. 94 00:10:19,023 --> 00:10:25,972 -How many protesters was that? - I thought it was 30. 95 00:10:26,013 --> 00:10:30,823 It was a small arm that hit us. 96 00:10:30,863 --> 00:10:34,903 Then there were ten pieces behind and curved. 97 00:10:34,943 --> 00:10:39,063 When we looked there were a lot of kids. 98 00:10:39,853 --> 00:10:44,823 They stood there like Gestapo and bowed. 99 00:10:44,863 --> 00:10:50,042 We knew they wanted to break. They put us down. 100 00:10:50,833 --> 00:10:53,933 And if we had done anything ... 101 00:10:53,973 --> 00:10:59,003 - Did you have a nice trip otherwise? -Yes, good. 102 00:10:59,043 --> 00:11:04,003 - Except that morning. -Japan was fantastic. 103 00:11:04,042 --> 00:11:09,053 -Delhi was fine. -Everyone was nice in Japan. 104 00:11:09,843 --> 00:11:13,053 They should have taken over Manila. 105 00:11:13,843 --> 00:11:20,833 -Do you want to play in the Philippines again? -No never. 106 00:11:20,873 --> 00:11:27,832 When they were in Delhi, they started talk about quitting touring. 107 00:11:27,873 --> 00:11:31,833 Brian was beyond himself, before then, he would not need- 108 00:11:31,873 --> 00:11:35,932 -if they were just in the studio. 109 00:11:35,973 --> 00:11:40,883 He was in his prime when he booked tours for the Beatles. 110 00:11:40,923 --> 00:11:46,843 He hurt the night business and liked the spectacle. 111 00:11:46,883 --> 00:11:52,862 The Beatles came out of the lodge to play a second concert. 112 00:11:52,903 --> 00:11:59,923 Each step was carefully monitored of 82 police officers. 113 00:11:59,963 --> 00:12:03,953 It was completely crazy about the Beatles. 114 00:12:03,993 --> 00:12:08,963 It was amazing that they stood out and did what was expected of them. 115 00:12:09,003 --> 00:12:13,963 When you think about which ego Even smaller rock bands today ... 116 00:12:14,003 --> 00:12:17,923 The Beatles stood out with- 117 00:12:17,962 --> 00:12:22,943 -for it would be so, was incredible. 118 00:12:22,983 --> 00:12:28,833 The Beatle's plan ran away the hundreds of prospective fans 119 00:12:28,872 --> 00:12:31,973 to a deserted runway. 120 00:12:32,013 --> 00:12:36,063 Half a dozen young people throw away from the security guards. 121 00:12:45,063 --> 00:12:51,823 The Beatles were worried about visiting The south, but the turn has gone well. 122 00:12:51,863 --> 00:12:55,953 After half the turn, they have pulled in half a million dollars 123 00:12:55,993 --> 00:12:59,033 -and "Yellow submarine" has sold a million ex. 124 00:12:59,823 --> 00:13:03,963 -Is it your first trip to the South? -No, we've been to Texas. 125 00:13:04,003 --> 00:13:09,833 -Where are you going? - To Cincinnati. 126 00:13:09,873 --> 00:13:16,063 -How long do you stay in the United States? - For two weeks. 127 00:13:16,853 --> 00:13:21,833 -What do you do for lunch? - I don't think so much. 128 00:13:21,873 --> 00:13:24,972 - Now we have to. -Thanks. 129 00:13:31,933 --> 00:13:37,943 They came out of the lodge and John said: "We shouldn't have done that right." 130 00:13:37,983 --> 00:13:42,893 They had two lists, and now they came back to a small club. 131 00:13:42,933 --> 00:13:45,993 But they promised to do another gig. 132 00:13:46,033 --> 00:13:50,013 There was only one tiny lodge. 133 00:13:50,053 --> 00:13:57,873 There we were, the Beatles and another band there. They were not happy. 134 00:13:57,913 --> 00:14:02,972 John laughed. There was a piano on stage with a big cover. 135 00:14:03,013 --> 00:14:06,893 John said: "King Size Taylor has forgotten her raincoat. " 136 00:14:06,933 --> 00:14:11,943 The girls screamed like crazy and the stream went 137 00:14:11,983 --> 00:14:16,833 except for a small light bulb on the stage. - Do you remember? 138 00:14:16,873 --> 00:14:19,943 Everyone was wondering what was going on. 139 00:14:19,983 --> 00:14:24,973 Paul sat down at the piano and started singing. 140 00:14:25,013 --> 00:14:31,833 John played on his acoustic guitar, so it sounded a little close. 141 00:14:31,873 --> 00:14:37,953 We long thought it was one of them Paul's dad's playing from the 1920s. 142 00:14:37,993 --> 00:14:43,893 It was so easy. But close we got the "Sgt Pepper" record ... 143 00:14:43,933 --> 00:14:49,942 "When I get older ..." We had heard that song in 1963! 144 00:14:49,983 --> 00:14:55,833 It doesn't matter if people don't like it our records or what we say. 145 00:14:55,873 --> 00:15:02,853 They've been able to feel so, but then we don't want anything to do with them. 146 00:15:02,893 --> 00:15:05,963 Everyone has rights, Harold. 147 00:15:13,963 --> 00:15:18,923 Towards the end it was pure madness. They could be anywhere. 148 00:15:18,963 --> 00:15:25,863 They didn't know whether they were in Wales or Tokyo. 149 00:15:27,823 --> 00:15:34,023 The "Revolver" songs could not play live. 150 00:15:34,063 --> 00:15:41,943 They played just a little bit of "Rubber soul "and nothing from" Revolver ". 151 00:15:41,983 --> 00:15:46,893 Apart from the rock music They started playing more melodic songs. 152 00:15:46,932 --> 00:15:51,043 They needed hair the details of the songs 153 00:15:51,833 --> 00:15:54,913 - but they heard nothing. 154 00:15:54,953 --> 00:16:00,943 I worked for the Yardbirds when the Beatles came to New York. 155 00:16:00,983 --> 00:16:05,883 Brian was there, but I just met the promoters. 156 00:16:05,923 --> 00:16:10,833 Brian just wanted 10000-15000 seating due to sound problems. 157 00:16:10,873 --> 00:16:14,883 They didn't want to be surprised by screams. 158 00:16:14,923 --> 00:16:21,893 But the police said no. 100000 people �nd� would show up. 159 00:16:21,933 --> 00:16:25,953 It was dangerous to have so many outside. 160 00:16:25,993 --> 00:16:31,973 No one was greedy. It was the police that determined. 161 00:16:32,013 --> 00:16:36,993 The gym was like a prison. Only when they come to him do they escape. 162 00:16:37,033 --> 00:16:42,933 They flew around the world. People were screaming so they didn't hear themselves. 163 00:16:42,973 --> 00:16:49,993 That's not how they wanted it. It wasn't fun anymore. 164 00:16:50,032 --> 00:16:55,873 John told me about it at a dinner in New York 1980. 165 00:16:55,913 --> 00:17:02,993 The changed words in "Twist and shout" to "I'm pissed with gout". 166 00:17:03,033 --> 00:17:10,953 He thought it was fun, and nobody heard what they were singing. 167 00:17:10,993 --> 00:17:15,823 At the very front sat sm� children in wheelchairs. 168 00:17:15,863 --> 00:17:22,833 John panicked. He had a phobia for physical disabilities. 169 00:17:22,873 --> 00:17:27,063 The poor kids rolled into the lodge after the concert- 170 00:17:27,853 --> 00:17:30,983 ... as if the Beatles knew whole people. 171 00:17:31,023 --> 00:17:38,903 And strange people used to take the wheelchairs and roll in the children. 172 00:17:38,943 --> 00:17:44,983 It was horrible, but they stood out with it. 173 00:17:45,023 --> 00:17:48,983 George said they were not developed. 174 00:17:49,023 --> 00:17:54,923 Before, they had developed through to get feedback from the audience. 175 00:17:54,963 --> 00:17:57,823 Now they couldn't see the audience. 176 00:17:57,862 --> 00:18:03,943 In Candelstick Park, they stood in a cage. It was a long way from The Cavern. 177 00:18:03,983 --> 00:18:10,823 We used appliances that had volume, tone controls ... 178 00:18:10,863 --> 00:18:13,832 ... and bass. There were three buttons! 179 00:18:13,873 --> 00:18:19,872 We had no computers with flashing lights. 180 00:18:19,913 --> 00:18:25,033 The contract stated that the promoter would provide 181 00:18:25,823 --> 00:18:29,943 -tv�, three microphones and lighting. 182 00:18:29,983 --> 00:18:36,903 Looks like "Eleanor Rigby" didn't the audience was going. 183 00:18:36,942 --> 00:18:43,833 It could not dance to, and the reviewers saw it as gloomy. 184 00:18:43,872 --> 00:18:49,013 Churches, women alone and dead were not typical Beatles. 185 00:18:49,053 --> 00:18:56,963 The Beatles have long, thanks to their popularity- 186 00:18:57,003 --> 00:18:59,923 - been able to say what they want - 187 00:18:59,963 --> 00:19:05,923 without thinking about it should be dealt with or how wise it is. 188 00:19:05,963 --> 00:19:09,873 Wasn't he just being honest? -He's very casual. 189 00:19:09,913 --> 00:19:14,863 His attitude is so bizarre you don't know if he's honest. 190 00:19:14,903 --> 00:19:20,993 Has that noise affected the tower? What do you think, Paul? 191 00:19:21,033 --> 00:19:25,873 It has made everything more hectic. 192 00:19:25,913 --> 00:19:29,013 The press conferences mean more. 193 00:19:29,053 --> 00:19:34,973 People have said that we are less nonchalant now- 194 00:19:35,013 --> 00:19:38,833 - but the issues are more serious. 195 00:19:38,872 --> 00:19:43,853 It has not affected the ticket purchase. Just as many have come. 196 00:19:43,893 --> 00:19:49,013 Besides the first gig in Memphis, when it came a little earlier. 197 00:19:49,053 --> 00:19:54,033 Music industry in England was amended 1966-1967. 198 00:19:54,823 --> 00:19:58,043 You started using the word "rock". 199 00:19:58,833 --> 00:20:03,053 1967 is the biggest event was the Monterey Pop Festival. 200 00:20:03,843 --> 00:20:08,853 The pop festival played bands which we now call rock stars. 201 00:20:08,893 --> 00:20:12,953 But the press started to use the word "rock". 202 00:20:12,993 --> 00:20:17,972 They used the word for groups who were not puppets- 203 00:20:18,013 --> 00:20:21,952 and who played their own music. 204 00:20:21,993 --> 00:20:28,873 They were against the establishment and had a long hair. 205 00:20:28,913 --> 00:20:34,863 Stones were the first, and then The Who went from pop to rock. 206 00:20:34,902 --> 00:20:41,923 - Thinking of playing the Beatles again? - Capitol Records asked me that. 207 00:20:41,963 --> 00:20:45,973 Brian Epstein wanted to know when we should lift the ban. 208 00:20:46,013 --> 00:20:51,833 They wanted to know what would be required before we did. 209 00:20:51,873 --> 00:20:55,963 I said I didn't have appreciated it. 210 00:20:56,003 --> 00:21:01,883 I want that they should change my view of them. 211 00:21:01,923 --> 00:21:06,983 I want to see them mature a little bit, I guess. 212 00:21:07,023 --> 00:21:10,842 Tommy Charles, who started the break 213 00:21:10,883 --> 00:21:14,903 doesn't play your discs before you have matured. 214 00:21:14,943 --> 00:21:18,833 He wants to stop playing them. 215 00:21:18,872 --> 00:21:23,043 When people hear us things they think we're childish. 216 00:21:23,833 --> 00:21:26,933 Only children suck. 217 00:21:26,973 --> 00:21:31,002 Has it developed into a witch hunt? 218 00:21:31,043 --> 00:21:35,033 What do you think of that you have questions about Vietnam? 219 00:21:35,823 --> 00:21:42,052 If we make people think that war is bad, it's good. 220 00:21:42,843 --> 00:21:46,933 It would be ridiculous if they didn't close to Vietnam when we are in the US. 221 00:21:46,973 --> 00:21:53,863 - But why are they asking? - Artists always ask questions like that. 222 00:21:53,903 --> 00:21:56,943 This is how it is in the UK, too. 223 00:21:56,983 --> 00:22:02,853 You can't keep quiet world events if you are not a monk. 224 00:22:02,892 --> 00:22:06,043 For all the monks. 225 00:22:06,833 --> 00:22:11,003 They led the fight that was already underway: 226 00:22:11,043 --> 00:22:15,963 The revolution that made tones to people. 227 00:22:16,002 --> 00:22:21,832 "Swinging London" was a huge business. 228 00:22:21,873 --> 00:22:26,013 Everyone had Long hair and beard and mustache. 229 00:22:26,053 --> 00:22:31,963 They visited the UFO Club, and Pink Floyd keep up with psychedelic stuff. 230 00:22:32,003 --> 00:22:38,963 A new fashion emerged and everything changed all the time. 231 00:22:39,003 --> 00:22:42,933 I was a model, and we had a shop. 232 00:22:42,973 --> 00:22:50,043 Sometimes I worked in the store. Guys from other stores got there. 233 00:22:50,833 --> 00:22:56,833 We swap discs. Everything was about music and how we looked. 234 00:22:56,873 --> 00:23:03,862 Paul was involved in a motorcycle accident and injured a front tooth and left 235 00:23:03,903 --> 00:23:09,023 the day before they were going to film videos to "Rain" and "Paperback writer". 236 00:23:09,063 --> 00:23:16,823 He started growing mustache to hide his broken tooth. 237 00:23:16,863 --> 00:23:22,003 He didn't go to the dentist, but he stopped chewing gum there. 238 00:23:22,043 --> 00:23:27,943 But then he grew mustache to hide their war damage. 239 00:23:27,983 --> 00:23:32,953 The others liked it, so they also cultivated mustache. 240 00:23:32,993 --> 00:23:37,863 The mustaches and everything ... 241 00:23:37,903 --> 00:23:40,993 Taking drugs and see the world in a new way ... 242 00:23:41,033 --> 00:23:47,033 All musicians make ends up in the songs. 243 00:23:47,823 --> 00:23:49,063 It's about one's experiences. 244 00:23:49,853 --> 00:23:54,843 We smoked gray then, and that changes how to look at the world. 245 00:23:54,883 --> 00:23:57,963 It breaks down walls. 246 00:23:58,003 --> 00:24:03,993 We were against the establishment and we wanted to be creative. 247 00:24:04,033 --> 00:24:08,893 They wanted to get rid of it its cute image. 248 00:24:08,933 --> 00:24:14,823 It was there they created a more grown-up look. 249 00:24:14,863 --> 00:24:18,913 - Are the Beatles shattered? -No. 250 00:24:18,953 --> 00:24:24,953 -Is there any truth in the rumor? -No not at all. 251 00:24:24,992 --> 00:24:29,003 Why do they have no tours booked next year? 252 00:24:29,042 --> 00:24:34,843 They've had other assumptions. John Lennon has made a movie. 253 00:24:34,883 --> 00:24:39,013 Paul has written film music. 254 00:24:39,053 --> 00:24:46,843 They're back in the country at the end of November. 255 00:24:46,882 --> 00:24:53,883 They should make more discs and they are working on the next movie. 256 00:24:53,923 --> 00:24:58,833 Will they to tour less next year? 257 00:24:58,872 --> 00:25:02,893 Maybe it. As I said... 258 00:25:02,933 --> 00:25:06,053 They make no major changes. 259 00:25:06,843 --> 00:25:11,022 But to develop you have to make changes. 260 00:25:11,063 --> 00:25:16,953 The Beatles took on new things very fast. 261 00:25:16,993 --> 00:25:21,023 That's how they were. 262 00:25:21,063 --> 00:25:26,913 They were ... With "Penny Lane" and "Strawberry fields" ... 263 00:25:26,953 --> 00:25:31,923 They were no longer pseudo-Americans and they do not sing in American. 264 00:25:31,963 --> 00:25:37,063 Paul's dad said, "Why do you sing 'yeah' and not 'yes'? " 265 00:25:37,853 --> 00:25:42,963 They used their own culture, which is interesting. 266 00:25:43,003 --> 00:25:46,863 "Penny Lane" is a fantastic song. 267 00:25:46,903 --> 00:25:52,963 The tricky thing about "Sgt Pepper" is that the two guys weren't there. 268 00:25:53,003 --> 00:25:58,003 It had been fantastic. They should have added them later. 269 00:25:58,043 --> 00:26:02,873 They should have said: "Here's a couple of previous songs." 270 00:26:02,913 --> 00:26:06,003 In "Penny Lane" and "Strawberry fields" - 271 00:26:06,043 --> 00:26:13,013 - is partly Paul's picture of the 50s, in a Liverpool they could well 272 00:26:13,053 --> 00:26:18,023 -and partly Johns much more surreal image. 273 00:26:18,063 --> 00:26:21,013 But it seems like a real place. 274 00:26:21,053 --> 00:26:25,943 That's John's surreal picture of a place when he was a kid. 275 00:26:25,983 --> 00:26:31,052 When they stopped touring they could control themselves. 276 00:26:31,843 --> 00:26:38,993 They did their own thing and they started ignoring Brian Epstein. 277 00:26:39,033 --> 00:26:43,913 They did too drive with George Martin. 278 00:26:43,953 --> 00:26:50,903 He came with his � views, but they said, "We're doing another take." 279 00:26:50,943 --> 00:26:56,893 Brian could feel himself outside. He did not so much when they toured. 280 00:26:56,933 --> 00:27:01,893 He just traveled with them, before everything is shot by local promoters. 281 00:27:01,933 --> 00:27:05,843 But Brian felt part of it. 282 00:27:05,883 --> 00:27:09,883 He never knew participating in the studio. 283 00:27:09,923 --> 00:27:13,933 He never had helped with the songs. 284 00:27:13,973 --> 00:27:19,043 He knew himself outside, and it tore at him. 285 00:27:19,833 --> 00:27:22,953 He took more drugs and played more. 286 00:27:22,993 --> 00:27:29,013 He knew their relationship had been cut off. 287 00:27:29,053 --> 00:27:32,973 Brian's role was changed. 288 00:27:33,013 --> 00:27:38,903 But he had always been the fifth Beatles member. 289 00:27:38,943 --> 00:27:41,993 He took them from Cavern out into the world. 290 00:27:42,033 --> 00:27:49,903 In the beginning of 1967 ... They made music which was played at Roundhouse. 291 00:27:49,943 --> 00:27:54,943 It was just Mark Lewisohn who heard it. 292 00:27:54,983 --> 00:28:01,852 They sat and drummed on plates and tables 293 00:28:01,893 --> 00:28:05,933 and other things in the studio for seven minutes. 294 00:28:05,972 --> 00:28:10,973 The idea was that what they did, the freer the better 295 00:28:11,013 --> 00:28:15,863 -was brilliant, but so it wasn't always. 296 00:28:15,903 --> 00:28:21,833 What direction should the Beatles take now? They had been a perfect pop group. 297 00:28:21,872 --> 00:28:27,993 They had written great songs and topped the charts. What do you do then? 298 00:28:28,033 --> 00:28:33,893 Yes, you do great art. You have to come up a level. 299 00:28:33,933 --> 00:28:40,873 "We can make pop that is great art, like great music and great paintings. " 300 00:28:40,913 --> 00:28:46,993 That's probably what they thought. They didn't want to make more pop songs. 301 00:28:47,033 --> 00:28:51,033 They wanted to do something amazing, and so it became. 302 00:28:51,823 --> 00:28:54,963 "Strawberry fields" made me hopeful. 303 00:28:55,002 --> 00:29:00,043 I had told my editor that the Beatles were still developing. 304 00:29:00,832 --> 00:29:05,063 It was incredible, and far from "Love me do". 305 00:29:05,853 --> 00:29:10,043 Nobody knows if "Penny Lane" should �vertr�ffa "Strawberry fields". 306 00:29:10,833 --> 00:29:15,913 But John had done a bit about Liverpool, and Paul ... 307 00:29:15,953 --> 00:29:21,843 John and Paul were talking to each other and drove on each other. 308 00:29:21,882 --> 00:29:27,922 They thought in a friendly way: "I'll take the next A-side." 309 00:29:27,963 --> 00:29:33,043 It was amazing. They tried to get each other out. 310 00:29:33,833 --> 00:29:36,993 They would make a record about Liverpool. 311 00:29:37,033 --> 00:29:44,893 They talked about making an album which was about Liverpool. 312 00:29:44,933 --> 00:29:51,933 They had "Penny Lane," "Strawberry fields "and" A day in the life ". 313 00:29:51,973 --> 00:29:57,953 Then George Martin said: "You've been silent for a long time." 314 00:29:57,993 --> 00:30:01,903 But it became a double a-side. 315 00:30:01,942 --> 00:30:07,923 The sales figures were broken down, so they only got two on the lists. 316 00:30:07,963 --> 00:30:12,043 In Liverpool found the group The Hillsiders. 317 00:30:12,833 --> 00:30:17,003 Their manager, Spencer Lloyd Mason, was told that the band had found- 318 00:30:17,043 --> 00:30:21,013 -a country record, that they wanted to record. 319 00:30:21,053 --> 00:30:27,823 They took it to Noel Walker on Decca, who also came from Merseyside 320 00:30:27,862 --> 00:30:32,903 and said, "We want to do it right here." It was called "Release me". 321 00:30:32,942 --> 00:30:40,053 In the chair of The Hillsiders Engelbert Humperdinck got it. 322 00:30:40,843 --> 00:30:46,992 It became one on the list, and poked down the Beatles. 323 00:30:47,033 --> 00:30:49,003 That was the Liverpool group's fault. 324 00:30:49,043 --> 00:30:52,053 An Liverpool-themed album ... 325 00:30:52,843 --> 00:30:57,853 "Strawberry Fields" and "Penny Lane" reaches for more than one disc. 326 00:30:57,893 --> 00:31:02,923 But they released them like a magnificent one single with double a-side. 327 00:31:05,033 --> 00:31:07,973 - Can I talk to you? -Certainly. 328 00:31:08,013 --> 00:31:13,942 - Are the Beatles shattered in 1967? - Maybe we do other things. 329 00:31:13,983 --> 00:31:16,843 But we're always together. 330 00:31:16,883 --> 00:31:20,843 Will you stop working together? 331 00:31:20,883 --> 00:31:25,013 Maybe for a while, but we will always be seen. 332 00:31:25,053 --> 00:31:31,833 Other impressions are also needed. But we enjoy it together. 333 00:31:31,873 --> 00:31:36,903 - Are you going to make a movie next year? -No, I should not change profession. 334 00:31:36,943 --> 00:31:42,943 I did the movie before Dick Lester asked me. 335 00:31:42,983 --> 00:31:47,933 But I hadn't if the others had not consented. 336 00:31:47,973 --> 00:31:53,923 - Do the other guys want to make a movie? -No, nobody is particularly interested. 337 00:31:53,963 --> 00:31:58,013 - What do you want to do? - A little different stuff. 338 00:31:58,052 --> 00:32:02,973 -But you don't know exactly what? -I'll try different things. 339 00:32:03,013 --> 00:32:07,003 But now I know more about film. 340 00:32:07,043 --> 00:32:10,993 But you keep writing songs? 341 00:32:11,033 --> 00:32:16,873 Yes, we will to write music together forever. 342 00:32:16,913 --> 00:32:20,923 It can't stop. 343 00:32:20,963 --> 00:32:24,873 But the tours in the US and England ... 344 00:32:24,913 --> 00:32:29,052 You come to a point when it no longer works. 345 00:32:29,843 --> 00:32:32,983 It doesn't fit with our discs. 346 00:32:33,023 --> 00:32:40,043 They took great risks in 1966 and 1967. They did not know if people would hang out. 347 00:32:40,833 --> 00:32:45,923 They expected to lose a large part of their market. 348 00:33:10,942 --> 00:33:15,993 Then they decided to make a concept album. 349 00:33:16,033 --> 00:33:21,903 McCartney wanted it to be like Frank Zappa's "Freak Out". 350 00:33:21,943 --> 00:33:29,882 But as Ringo has said, they dropped that idea and made more songs. 351 00:33:29,923 --> 00:33:33,923 The album ties together in a weird way. 352 00:33:33,963 --> 00:33:39,963 The Beatles were adventurous, but at the same time sentimental. 353 00:33:40,003 --> 00:33:46,863 There are many different threads, and John keeps it together. 354 00:33:46,903 --> 00:33:51,953 There is his wonderful masterpiece "A day in the life". 355 00:33:51,993 --> 00:33:59,883 He also contributes with small sound clips, as in Paul's "Lovely Rita." 356 00:33:59,922 --> 00:34:05,903 So it looks like a concept album, though that was not the idea. 357 00:34:05,943 --> 00:34:09,873 -Paul! Good evening. -Hello. 358 00:34:09,913 --> 00:34:16,992 -Would you miss touring? -No I do not think so. 359 00:34:17,033 --> 00:34:22,943 The thing is that when we act ... 360 00:34:22,983 --> 00:34:27,973 We cannot develop when no one can hear us. 361 00:34:28,013 --> 00:34:32,063 It's hard for us to act. 362 00:34:32,853 --> 00:34:36,853 - You don't want to do that? -Yes. 363 00:34:36,893 --> 00:34:43,913 But if we can't even hear We ourselves cannot be better. 364 00:34:43,953 --> 00:34:46,933 So we record songs in the room. 365 00:34:46,973 --> 00:34:50,872 It took a lot of time and money. 366 00:34:50,913 --> 00:34:55,843 It wasn't just "Sgt Pepper", but... 367 00:34:55,882 --> 00:35:02,963 They changed the market, the single Previously, it had been important. 368 00:35:03,003 --> 00:35:08,012 Then the album contained that song and some other songs 369 00:35:08,053 --> 00:35:11,023 -and the album bore the single's name. 370 00:35:11,063 --> 00:35:18,922 But then the band started focus on the albums. 371 00:35:18,963 --> 00:35:22,043 Then the single came off the album. 372 00:35:22,832 --> 00:35:25,043 Merry Christmas! 373 00:35:25,833 --> 00:35:29,983 Before I ask any questions? I like you here. 374 00:35:30,023 --> 00:35:33,023 -You're stylish. -I have bathed. 375 00:35:33,063 --> 00:35:37,873 The Beatles are going to do some good things together next year? 376 00:35:37,912 --> 00:35:42,922 We should not ... If we do things together, we four- 377 00:35:42,963 --> 00:35:49,823 -it will just be the same things again. We don't want to do that. 378 00:35:49,863 --> 00:35:55,943 Because of the movie ... We can't get a good script. 379 00:35:55,983 --> 00:36:00,843 If we don't get it we still do things on our own. 380 00:36:00,883 --> 00:36:05,063 But we should not split. We'll crash again later. 381 00:36:05,853 --> 00:36:08,883 Thanks. Are you going to work now? 382 00:36:08,923 --> 00:36:13,843 We'll see. If I'm lucky it'll be tea. 383 00:36:13,883 --> 00:36:17,893 Paul wanted to create a new band. 384 00:36:17,933 --> 00:36:22,993 They wanted to play together, but not like the Beatles. 385 00:36:24,843 --> 00:36:27,863 Can I exchange a few words with you? 386 00:36:27,903 --> 00:36:33,023 Do you think the band will come to be split next year? 387 00:36:33,063 --> 00:36:36,883 No, definitely not. 388 00:36:36,923 --> 00:36:41,043 - Can I take a few more words with you? -There are already more words. 389 00:36:41,832 --> 00:36:43,993 They were tired of being Beatles. 390 00:36:44,032 --> 00:36:50,913 They weren't tired of the group, but on the name. 391 00:36:50,953 --> 00:36:55,913 They wanted to create an alter ego - Sgt. Pepper. 392 00:36:55,953 --> 00:37:01,053 They used military suits, which was fashion in the 60's. 393 00:37:01,843 --> 00:37:07,053 But there is a picture by Paul's dad, Jim McCartney- 394 00:37:07,843 --> 00:37:14,833 - who played in Jim Mac's Jazz Band in the 20s and 30s in Liverpool. 395 00:37:14,873 --> 00:37:20,833 There is a picture of them from the late 20s. 396 00:37:20,873 --> 00:37:26,883 It looked like the Sgt Pepper concept, but without marijuana. 397 00:37:26,923 --> 00:37:32,963 They became more advanced something that has almost become a joke: 398 00:37:33,003 --> 00:37:37,862 How long can you lie on a project? 399 00:37:37,903 --> 00:37:41,853 The Beatles recorded "Sgt. Pepper". 400 00:37:41,893 --> 00:37:46,883 Everyone says: "It must have been exciting!" 401 00:37:46,922 --> 00:37:51,993 But it was incredible. 402 00:37:52,033 --> 00:37:57,893 We were used to recording a record at most one week. 403 00:37:57,933 --> 00:38:03,873 "Revolver" took a couple of weeks, but "Sgt. Pepper" pulled out at the time. 404 00:38:03,913 --> 00:38:10,063 They had not written the record together. The only one prepared was Paul. 405 00:38:10,852 --> 00:38:16,013 When they were in the studio no women were allowed in. 406 00:38:16,053 --> 00:38:22,063 Even when they were touring only the guys did. 407 00:38:22,853 --> 00:38:28,003 It was just Chris O'Dell who asked if she could join. 408 00:38:28,043 --> 00:38:32,923 None of us even dreamed of it. 409 00:38:32,963 --> 00:38:36,842 The tapes got more recording time. 410 00:38:36,883 --> 00:38:42,033 It's paid for by the band's advance, so the record companies don't care. 411 00:38:42,823 --> 00:38:47,903 But if the record does not become a hit it costs the record companies money. 412 00:38:47,943 --> 00:38:52,903 But when the bands become successful they pay themselves for it. 413 00:38:52,943 --> 00:38:57,033 But the gang believes that the record companies pay. 414 00:38:57,823 --> 00:39:01,903 They got money over to buy drugs 415 00:39:01,942 --> 00:39:07,912 -and that made the recordings took longer. 416 00:39:07,953 --> 00:39:14,893 Paul agreed. George and John decided over their songs. 417 00:39:14,933 --> 00:39:17,963 But Paul decided most of it. 418 00:39:18,002 --> 00:39:23,043 They made dozens of shots of the same things- 419 00:39:23,833 --> 00:39:29,032 - though the first shot was always jttebra. I just wanted to go home. 420 00:39:29,823 --> 00:39:34,042 They got the sound techniques to do amazing things. 421 00:39:34,833 --> 00:39:36,893 Nobody had done this before. 422 00:39:36,933 --> 00:39:41,913 That was Abbey Road very good for them. 423 00:39:41,953 --> 00:39:45,943 They were full of enthusiasm and ideas. 424 00:39:45,982 --> 00:39:49,973 The twenty-year-olds tend to be the best time in your life. 425 00:39:50,013 --> 00:39:55,823 They could do whatever they wanted and see how they wanted it. 426 00:39:55,863 --> 00:40:02,912 Previously, they had used the side entrance, but now they took the big entrance. 427 00:40:02,953 --> 00:40:08,833 The Beatles started a lot which we take for granted now. 428 00:40:08,873 --> 00:40:13,822 U2 often takes one year with them a disc. The Beatles were the first to do so. 429 00:40:13,863 --> 00:40:20,043 They made ambitious albums, which was nothing more than just a pop album. 430 00:40:20,833 --> 00:40:24,883 It wasn't just dance music. 431 00:40:24,923 --> 00:40:29,953 John was a genius. There is no doubt about that. 432 00:40:29,993 --> 00:40:33,063 How many geniuses there are in a band? 433 00:40:33,853 --> 00:40:39,913 But without Paul had not John �stood just as much. 434 00:40:39,952 --> 00:40:44,923 They were a dream team. Paul lost his mother early. 435 00:40:44,962 --> 00:40:51,933 He was with us often. Mom said, "Poor boy." 436 00:40:51,973 --> 00:40:56,863 And then when our mom died, 437 00:40:56,903 --> 00:41:02,843 created it a strong bond between them. 438 00:41:02,883 --> 00:41:07,053 That was the deal the basis for the Beatles. 439 00:41:07,843 --> 00:41:10,943 John had a reputation for himself. 440 00:41:10,983 --> 00:41:14,943 People were drawn to him. He had a sense of humor 441 00:41:14,983 --> 00:41:21,833 and he was rebellious and did not care about things. 442 00:41:21,873 --> 00:41:28,853 Paul was very polite. People are always drawn to the rebel. 443 00:41:28,893 --> 00:41:31,993 So I felt when I met him. 444 00:41:32,033 --> 00:41:36,043 Paul explored the avant-garde. 445 00:41:36,833 --> 00:41:39,953 No idea was too messy. 446 00:41:39,993 --> 00:41:45,853 He read a lot, looked at art and listened to jazz. 447 00:41:45,893 --> 00:41:50,003 It made him develop. 448 00:41:50,043 --> 00:41:57,053 John read and wrote, but he did was mostly at home with his family. 449 00:41:57,843 --> 00:42:02,983 Paul explored London, avant-garde and the underground world. 450 00:42:03,023 --> 00:42:09,883 John liked it, but he did not explore it himself. 451 00:42:09,923 --> 00:42:15,933 But in November, he met Yoko Ono at one of her exhibitions. 452 00:42:15,973 --> 00:42:18,823 We know how it went then. 453 00:42:18,863 --> 00:42:24,003 A myth, still before Paul McCartney was called 454 00:42:24,043 --> 00:42:27,023 -that John was drawn to the avant-garde- 455 00:42:27,063 --> 00:42:32,823 -and Paul was cozy, safe and traditional. 456 00:42:32,863 --> 00:42:36,843 It didn't work. As Tony Bramwell said: 457 00:42:36,882 --> 00:42:40,963 "John lazy at home in the suburb." 458 00:42:41,002 --> 00:42:45,843 Paul lived in the middle of London and always wanted to get away. 459 00:42:45,883 --> 00:42:49,843 He read about modern art when he was twelve. 460 00:42:49,883 --> 00:42:52,973 He liked the avant-garde. 461 00:42:53,013 --> 00:42:58,983 It was about difficult and modern music. 462 00:42:59,023 --> 00:43:02,853 It was John Cage and Luciano Berio. 463 00:43:02,893 --> 00:43:06,873 He knew everything. Paul was the leader. 464 00:43:06,913 --> 00:43:13,873 Indica Gallery had a book deal, where Paul bought everything new that came in. 465 00:43:13,913 --> 00:43:21,063 Paul told John about "Turn off your mind and float downstream ”. 466 00:43:21,853 --> 00:43:28,042 Then John wrote "Tomorrow never knows "and looks like an avant-garde. 467 00:43:28,833 --> 00:43:32,013 They were more involved in modern art 468 00:43:32,053 --> 00:43:37,943 - modern classical music and modern fashion creators and they showed. 469 00:43:37,983 --> 00:43:45,893 They had gone to grammar school and John had gone to art school. 470 00:43:45,933 --> 00:43:51,972 Unlike others rock stars that I should not mention- 471 00:43:52,013 --> 00:43:55,963 ... who could barely read and write. 472 00:43:56,003 --> 00:43:59,893 Ringo never went to school 473 00:43:59,932 --> 00:44:07,063 - but the others had read Shakespeare, novels and poetry. 474 00:44:07,853 --> 00:44:12,843 John and George lived out in the country. 475 00:44:12,883 --> 00:44:16,853 Paul lived in the middle of London. 476 00:44:16,893 --> 00:44:19,963 They didn't meet that much anymore. 477 00:44:20,003 --> 00:44:24,892 Until 1966, they were always around. 478 00:44:24,933 --> 00:44:31,023 They were like a four-headed monster. You never saw them without each other. 479 00:44:31,063 --> 00:44:35,033 Paul was more musical. He taught John a lot. 480 00:44:35,823 --> 00:44:39,843 It was more nuanced. 481 00:44:39,883 --> 00:44:45,883 The idea that Paul was a traditional guy 482 00:44:45,923 --> 00:44:51,823 - was partially true, but he was also extremely gifted. 483 00:44:51,863 --> 00:44:55,053 There has been much talk about- 484 00:44:55,843 --> 00:45:00,063 - another kind of music, which came from the "Revolver". 485 00:45:00,853 --> 00:45:06,823 It was incredibly large Expectations on "Sgt. Pepper". 486 00:45:06,863 --> 00:45:12,843 They spent a lot of time in the studio, and the press reported on. 487 00:45:12,883 --> 00:45:16,023 The band put a lot of money into it. 488 00:45:16,063 --> 00:45:19,883 It was four geniuses and George Martin. 489 00:45:19,923 --> 00:45:25,023 One thought it must be incredible. 490 00:45:31,853 --> 00:45:38,043 At that time when it was released ... People don't realize how difficult it was. 491 00:45:38,832 --> 00:45:44,913 It was four-channel recording, which was very difficult. 492 00:45:44,953 --> 00:45:48,873 Now, ahead of time, much more can be done. 493 00:45:48,913 --> 00:45:54,003 But that's the album became �nd� magical. 494 00:45:54,043 --> 00:45:57,843 They had the lyrics on the cover. 495 00:45:57,883 --> 00:46:04,063 When it was all previous albums we grumbled about the lyrics. 496 00:46:04,853 --> 00:46:11,823 We all knew what the Beatles were singing, for the singing of the Liverpool dialect. 497 00:46:11,863 --> 00:46:18,052 When I worked on Stafford Street George comes in and day. 498 00:46:18,843 --> 00:46:24,982 He said, "Can you print do they hear the lyrics? They're so bad. " 499 00:46:25,023 --> 00:46:31,823 "I sit here and light them up so you can print them. " 500 00:46:31,863 --> 00:46:38,063 Every time he finished with a text he handed me the paper. 501 00:46:38,853 --> 00:46:41,063 And I threw it. 502 00:46:41,853 --> 00:46:48,893 All lyrics for "Sgt. Pepper" ended up in the garbage. 503 00:46:48,933 --> 00:46:55,883 EMI was shocked how much the cover would cost. 504 00:46:55,923 --> 00:47:00,053 Then the Beatles would bring the lyrics. 505 00:47:00,843 --> 00:47:05,913 But the band was carrying rice on their own backs before when people could read the lyrics 506 00:47:05,953 --> 00:47:09,933 - broke the hell out when people would interpret the texts. 507 00:47:09,973 --> 00:47:15,823 People found meaning when there probably weren't any. 508 00:47:15,862 --> 00:47:21,863 A group called The Fool had made a psychedelic design. 509 00:47:21,902 --> 00:47:26,873 Robert Fraser, who owned an art gallery 510 00:47:26,912 --> 00:47:30,833 -sa: "It looks too dated." 511 00:47:30,873 --> 00:47:34,893 In the chair, they decided another concept. 512 00:47:34,933 --> 00:47:41,063 Paul said, "We're writing a list of all our heroes. " 513 00:47:41,853 --> 00:47:46,883 "Everyone we admire should be on the album. " 514 00:47:46,923 --> 00:47:52,873 Brian Epstein was killed when he heard it. 515 00:47:52,913 --> 00:47:56,863 He thought: "It's the Beatles that are the most important thing." 516 00:47:56,903 --> 00:48:01,913 He would fly to London, but he did thought he would die on the planet 517 00:48:01,953 --> 00:48:05,963 - so he left a message to Nat Reese's lawyer: 518 00:48:06,003 --> 00:48:10,963 "Sgt. Pepper" record should have brown wrapping paper. " 519 00:48:11,002 --> 00:48:18,002 People were expecting that the Beatles would be at the forefront. 520 00:48:18,043 --> 00:48:20,983 First of all, it was military robes 521 00:48:21,022 --> 00:48:25,993 as they had with "Sgt. Pepper", and then came the hippie time. 522 00:48:26,032 --> 00:48:31,923 John Lennon wanted to come along Jesus and Hitler. 523 00:48:31,963 --> 00:48:35,843 Hitler is there, but behind nothing. 524 00:48:35,883 --> 00:48:42,833 Near Sir Joseph Lockwood from EMI so Gandhi's image was confirmed. 525 00:48:42,873 --> 00:48:46,052 "Think of the sale in India!" So it had to be removed. 526 00:48:46,843 --> 00:48:49,983 Peter Blake got hold of 527 00:48:50,023 --> 00:48:54,823 - nine wax figures from Madame Tussauds. 528 00:48:54,863 --> 00:48:58,952 It was the Beatles, Sonny Liston, Diana Dors ... They are here. 529 00:48:58,993 --> 00:49:05,063 I said, "You have movie stars and musicians. " 530 00:49:05,853 --> 00:49:12,013 "Why not a football player?" But they didn't like football. 531 00:49:12,053 --> 00:49:17,933 They never had went to some football games- 532 00:49:17,973 --> 00:49:21,863 before they just played music. 533 00:49:21,903 --> 00:49:25,012 Paul has said that the family cheered on Everton ... 534 00:49:25,053 --> 00:49:32,023 - but he never mentioned it, and not his dad either. 535 00:49:32,063 --> 00:49:38,953 But they brought �nd� a soccer player. 536 00:49:38,992 --> 00:49:43,973 John chose Albert Stubbins, because he had a funny name. 537 00:49:44,013 --> 00:49:47,943 One year later Ravi Shankar had been there. 538 00:49:47,982 --> 00:49:55,013 Many of them were Americans. At that time there was no email. 539 00:49:55,052 --> 00:49:58,923 We had to write and ask for permission. 540 00:49:58,962 --> 00:50:03,033 If they were dead the state of the families was needed. 541 00:50:03,823 --> 00:50:11,003 I had a very thick folder by letter saying "Sgt. Pepper". 542 00:50:11,953 --> 00:50:15,892 Here is a gypsy car- 543 00:50:15,933 --> 00:50:23,032 ... which is a gift to four-year-olds Julian, son of John Lennon. 544 00:50:23,823 --> 00:50:29,853 The wagon painted the wagon has cost 4000 pounds. 545 00:50:29,892 --> 00:50:35,022 The required police card. Fathers buy so expensive gifts. 546 00:50:35,063 --> 00:50:39,013 Here, money can buy love. 547 00:50:39,053 --> 00:50:45,833 If he leaves his home, he will be the most well-equipped gypsy on the road. 548 00:50:47,903 --> 00:50:51,873 I visited my friends on King's Road. 549 00:50:51,913 --> 00:50:55,952 We sat around the table and listened to music. 550 00:50:55,993 --> 00:50:59,903 We smoked grass and nobody said that much. 551 00:50:59,943 --> 00:51:05,883 There were interesting books about spirituality on the table. 552 00:51:05,923 --> 00:51:12,873 One of them was "Karma and rebirth" by Christmas Humpreys. 553 00:51:12,913 --> 00:51:19,933 It said, "Life goes on within you and without you. " 554 00:51:19,973 --> 00:51:25,023 I called Patti and George, and George answered. 555 00:51:25,063 --> 00:51:29,883 I said, "Life is going on within you and without you. " 556 00:51:29,923 --> 00:51:33,913 Clock it came "Within you without you". 557 00:51:33,953 --> 00:51:37,833 George Martin said many years later: 558 00:51:37,873 --> 00:51:41,833 "It lies first on the side two" - 559 00:51:41,873 --> 00:51:48,993 - "so people can go directly to the other song and not play it. " 560 00:51:49,032 --> 00:51:54,023 Bringing seats in rock or psychedelic music ... 561 00:51:54,063 --> 00:51:58,873 It was used a lot on "Sgt. Pepper". 562 00:51:58,913 --> 00:52:02,873 Elvis and Little Richard had done that- 563 00:52:02,913 --> 00:52:08,923 - but you had never thought that a modern band would use it. 564 00:52:08,963 --> 00:52:14,062 Paul said when he was growing up the cover covers were important. 565 00:52:14,853 --> 00:52:18,003 The colors and even the scent ... 566 00:52:18,042 --> 00:52:24,913 He was aware the tactile and visual 567 00:52:24,953 --> 00:52:29,843 -and even the printer's logo. 568 00:52:29,883 --> 00:52:35,023 He wanted to come along nice illustrations and extras. 569 00:52:35,063 --> 00:52:40,063 The Fool had designed The inner core. 570 00:52:40,853 --> 00:52:44,023 It was overwhelming. 571 00:52:44,063 --> 00:52:47,933 They stood in Sgt. Pepper clothes. 572 00:52:47,973 --> 00:52:53,883 Then you could cut a mustache from the cover. 573 00:52:53,923 --> 00:52:56,883 You could cut out Sgt. Pepper. 574 00:52:56,923 --> 00:53:01,863 The dilemma was ... I left everything as it was. 575 00:53:01,903 --> 00:53:07,993 I hadn't made much progress with a cardboard mustache. 576 00:53:08,032 --> 00:53:13,833 I have the disc left just as it came. 577 00:53:13,873 --> 00:53:18,063 But there you could do more with the cover. 578 00:53:18,853 --> 00:53:22,023 That was Paul's id�. He drew sketches. 579 00:53:22,063 --> 00:53:28,013 They discussed the title and what the cover would look like. 580 00:53:28,053 --> 00:53:34,923 One evening they would take a picture. I jumped into his Mini-Minor. 581 00:53:34,963 --> 00:53:40,863 We were going to Michael Cooper's studio on Flood Street. 582 00:53:40,903 --> 00:53:47,923 When we left Paul's house He said, "We need decorations." 583 00:53:47,963 --> 00:53:52,043 I had seen drawings. They hadn't decided. 584 00:53:52,833 --> 00:53:57,883 They had tried a lot of different clothes. 585 00:53:57,923 --> 00:54:02,863 He said, "Take something with you to pose in the front of the picture. " 586 00:54:02,903 --> 00:54:08,913 I took a figurine from his praise. I didn't know what it was. 587 00:54:08,953 --> 00:54:15,042 It looked like a spaceship. They had got each one a few years earlier. 588 00:54:15,833 --> 00:54:19,953 John had given his fuck up. 589 00:54:19,993 --> 00:54:22,943 Pauls stood beside his Magritte. 590 00:54:22,983 --> 00:54:30,003 He had bought the tablet with apple, like then used to the company. 591 00:54:30,043 --> 00:54:37,823 Linda had bought Magritte's palette and easel to him. 592 00:54:37,863 --> 00:54:40,953 But he was not allowed to bring Magritte- 593 00:54:40,993 --> 00:54:46,033 - For Robert Fraser, who was his agent. 594 00:54:46,823 --> 00:54:53,863 It was a disaster. It was a wonderful concept- 595 00:54:53,903 --> 00:55:00,013 to bring their hearts, but they were not allowed to bring everyone. 596 00:55:00,053 --> 00:55:07,863 So it's not the "Sgt. Pepper" cover. 597 00:55:07,903 --> 00:55:13,882 They thought, "Who did they leave? Why are they with these tall people? " 598 00:55:13,923 --> 00:55:17,913 It was all the great things of the time. 599 00:55:17,953 --> 00:55:23,913 You did not know if they saw them as helper. 600 00:55:23,953 --> 00:55:28,943 There was a feeling of irony. 601 00:55:28,983 --> 00:55:32,843 I thought, "It's a shame." 602 00:55:32,883 --> 00:55:38,863 They hear the people takes a bigger place in itself. 603 00:55:38,903 --> 00:55:42,962 The album inspired, of course Rolling Stones. 604 00:55:43,003 --> 00:55:46,823 EMI thought they were scarce. 605 00:55:46,863 --> 00:55:52,923 Why go when you go? would release a new record soon? 606 00:55:52,963 --> 00:55:55,843 They didn't take the thing. 607 00:55:55,883 --> 00:56:02,923 The Beatles had high ambitions, great talent and a great ego. 608 00:56:02,963 --> 00:56:05,833 They knew it would be good. 609 00:56:05,873 --> 00:56:09,033 They have medals. 610 00:56:09,823 --> 00:56:14,883 Pete Best's dad was boxing promoter in Liverpool. 611 00:56:14,922 --> 00:56:21,983 He had a trophy, as he had been in Liverpool. 612 00:56:22,023 --> 00:56:26,823 Neil Aspinall brought it. 613 00:56:26,863 --> 00:56:34,823 My mother's family came from England, but they lived in India. 614 00:56:34,863 --> 00:56:41,923 My grandfather was a major and a lancer. 615 00:56:41,963 --> 00:56:46,873 She was proud of her father's medals. 616 00:56:46,913 --> 00:56:53,003 On several occasions she had showcased the medals for all four. 617 00:56:53,042 --> 00:56:57,943 1967, when they collected material to "Sgt. Pepper" - 618 00:56:57,982 --> 00:57:02,003 - John remembered the medals. 619 00:57:02,043 --> 00:57:08,913 He said, "They would fit in very well. Ask Mona if I can borrow them. " 620 00:57:08,953 --> 00:57:16,863 She said to Neil: "Bring them, but I want them back. " 621 00:57:16,903 --> 00:57:20,063 S� Neil brought them to London. 622 00:57:20,853 --> 00:57:27,903 John decided he was wanted medals from that collection. 623 00:57:27,943 --> 00:57:31,033 That's why they're on the cover. 624 00:57:31,823 --> 00:57:36,903 The nice thing was he kept his word. 625 00:57:36,942 --> 00:57:43,933 He returned the medals to Mona, by Neil. 626 00:57:43,973 --> 00:57:47,983 S� became the family involved in "Sgt. Pepper". 627 00:57:48,023 --> 00:57:51,973 The album was a big seller all over the world. 628 00:57:52,013 --> 00:57:56,913 And that's where the medals come with. 629 00:57:56,953 --> 00:58:00,013 But no one knew about it. 630 00:58:00,052 --> 00:58:03,923 I was friends with Chas and Jimi. 631 00:58:03,962 --> 00:58:07,843 I had a mastering of "Sgt Pepper". 632 00:58:07,883 --> 00:58:11,863 Chas played it before Jimi. 633 00:58:11,903 --> 00:58:17,933 Jimi liked the sound and repeated it. 634 00:58:17,973 --> 00:58:24,003 I heard him play Sunday after the disc was released 635 00:58:24,043 --> 00:58:26,963 And he played the song. 636 00:58:27,002 --> 00:58:30,993 McCartney took it as a compliment. 637 00:58:31,033 --> 00:58:36,963 It was a star who played hard rock. 638 00:58:37,003 --> 00:58:41,043 He liked when others played his songs. 639 00:58:41,833 --> 00:58:45,903 "Sgt. Pepper" was released on June 1, 1967. 640 00:58:45,943 --> 00:58:52,853 The absence was huge. We had been waiting a long time. 641 00:58:52,893 --> 00:58:55,953 Then it was played all over King's Road. 642 00:58:55,993 --> 00:59:01,923 It was played in all stores and stores. 643 00:59:01,963 --> 00:59:05,853 The cover was a big deal. 644 00:59:05,892 --> 00:59:11,043 It showed that it was something special. 645 00:59:11,833 --> 00:59:16,933 We did a little movie to "Strawberry fields" - 646 00:59:16,973 --> 00:59:23,863 -in Sevenoaks in Kent. We stayed at Bright's Hotel. 647 00:59:23,903 --> 00:59:27,823 Next to it was an antique shop. 648 00:59:27,863 --> 00:59:33,913 The poster hung on the wall. It cost a pound. 649 00:59:35,833 --> 00:59:40,973 It said: "For the benefit of Mr. Kite, "and all the artists stood by. 650 00:59:41,013 --> 00:59:46,033 Pablo Fanque and the dancing horse and such. 651 00:59:46,823 --> 00:59:52,823 He framed it and hung it up at home in Weybridge. 652 00:59:52,862 --> 00:59:59,862 Then he wrote the song according to the poster. 653 00:59:59,903 --> 01:00:05,993 He made poetry of it. Then George Martin added 654 01:00:06,033 --> 01:00:11,853 - all the fiddle sounds. It's a masterpiece. 655 01:00:11,893 --> 01:00:16,893 He got inspiration from other places to "Sgt. Pepper". 656 01:00:16,933 --> 01:00:21,033 As from the Tara Browne article, as though in a car crash. 657 01:00:21,823 --> 01:00:25,922 Paul got the idea "She's leaving home" from an article- 658 01:00:25,963 --> 01:00:29,832 -like a girl who was drinking with a man. 659 01:00:29,873 --> 01:00:34,853 After Paul's song, everyone believed that it was Terry Doran. 660 01:00:34,893 --> 01:00:39,043 But Paul said it wasn't. Terry was a friend to them. 661 01:00:39,833 --> 01:00:44,913 Chertsey! Listen to John Lennon's Rolls-Royce. 662 01:00:44,953 --> 01:00:48,043 It is public. 663 01:00:48,833 --> 01:00:53,883 It's a 1965 Phantom, which is worth 6,000 pounds. 664 01:00:53,923 --> 01:01:00,023 The supercar has been sniffed to fit a Beatles member. 665 01:01:01,953 --> 01:01:07,832 Paul talked about LSD with a reporter from Life Magazine. 666 01:01:07,873 --> 01:01:11,863 Then it was about that in the Daily Mirror. 667 01:01:11,903 --> 01:01:17,043 Then the news media and television jumped p�t�get. 668 01:01:17,833 --> 01:01:21,943 John and George were the first to take the LSD 669 01:01:21,983 --> 01:01:26,953 -but Paul, who started it late, said: "I have taken LSD." 670 01:01:26,993 --> 01:01:32,023 They thought it was unjust, before they had been first. 671 01:01:32,063 --> 01:01:38,933 -How many times have you taken LSD? - Approximately four times. 672 01:01:38,973 --> 01:01:43,023 - Where did you get it? - If I were to say that ... 673 01:01:43,063 --> 01:01:47,052 They are illegal, so I don't want to say it. 674 01:01:47,843 --> 01:01:51,953 Should you have kept it to yourself? 675 01:01:51,992 --> 01:01:56,993 I got the question by a newspaper reporter. 676 01:01:57,033 --> 01:02:04,873 I could lie or tell the truth. 677 01:02:04,913 --> 01:02:10,923 I told the truth, but I hadn't wanted to say anything. 678 01:02:10,963 --> 01:02:15,992 If I had decided I hadn't said anything to anyone. 679 01:02:16,033 --> 01:02:19,003 I don't want to spread it. 680 01:02:19,043 --> 01:02:23,062 But he's from the newspaper come from the media. 681 01:02:23,853 --> 01:02:28,962 I keep it to myself if he keeps quiet. 682 01:02:29,003 --> 01:02:34,023 The responsibility lies with him, not on me. 683 01:02:35,033 --> 01:02:41,013 But you must have known that it would end up in the newspaper. 684 01:02:41,053 --> 01:02:48,973 Yes, but I was just telling the truth. Why is everyone so angry? 685 01:02:49,013 --> 01:02:52,883 Have you encouraged your fans to take drugs? 686 01:02:52,923 --> 01:02:58,053 My fans will not take drugs just because I'm doing it. 687 01:02:58,843 --> 01:03:03,863 I got the question whether I had taken drugs or not. 688 01:03:03,903 --> 01:03:09,903 How long it spreads and how many people take it 689 01:03:09,943 --> 01:03:15,953 - hangs on the newspapers and television. You're spreading it now. 690 01:03:15,993 --> 01:03:21,853 Everyone will see it, and I wish it wasn't so. 691 01:03:21,893 --> 01:03:25,873 But you want me to answer honestly. 692 01:03:25,913 --> 01:03:31,963 -But you have a responsibility to ...? -No, the responsibility lies. 693 01:03:32,003 --> 01:03:35,003 You can't stop spreading it. 694 01:03:35,043 --> 01:03:42,053 I keep it to myself if you also do it. 695 01:03:42,843 --> 01:03:49,853 When LSD came to this country it was not illegal. 696 01:03:49,893 --> 01:03:55,823 P� International Psycedelic Center you could come in and try it. 697 01:03:55,863 --> 01:04:00,873 You got it on a piece of bread. Later it became illegal. 698 01:04:00,913 --> 01:04:06,993 There were many who thought that the drug was wonderful. 699 01:04:07,033 --> 01:04:14,873 John said Julian had come home from school with a drawing 700 01:04:14,912 --> 01:04:20,833 ... who arrested his friend Lucy, up in the sky with diamonds. 701 01:04:20,873 --> 01:04:27,993 John said it didn't sound was about LSD, but I think so. 702 01:04:28,033 --> 01:04:34,923 You can't miss "LSD" i "Lucy in the sky with diamonds". 703 01:04:34,963 --> 01:04:37,023 John was not dyslexic. 704 01:04:37,063 --> 01:04:44,043 John said it was a coincidence, but with artistic freedom ... 705 01:04:44,833 --> 01:04:47,913 It's probably more than just a coincidence. 706 01:04:47,953 --> 01:04:52,053 That it becomes "LSD" is just a coincidence. 707 01:04:52,842 --> 01:04:57,023 I do not think that it was a secret code. 708 01:04:57,063 --> 01:05:02,833 But when it sounds like that "I am the walrus" people used to ask: 709 01:05:02,873 --> 01:05:06,013 "What does that mean, John?" 710 01:05:06,053 --> 01:05:11,033 Then he used to provide nonsense responses with diligence. 711 01:05:11,823 --> 01:05:16,033 He said, "Let them figure it out. It will confuse them. " 712 01:05:16,823 --> 01:05:19,983 It was just a sleepover. 713 01:05:20,023 --> 01:05:24,833 The Beatles had a good explanation to "Lucy in the sky with diamonds" - 714 01:05:24,872 --> 01:05:27,983 -but it sure came from Brian Epstein. 715 01:05:28,023 --> 01:05:32,913 It was safe for LSD, but it didn't sound good in public. 716 01:05:32,953 --> 01:05:39,873 But the BBC did wrong as a forbidden sound, before it was part of the youth culture. 717 01:05:39,913 --> 01:05:43,013 In "Sgt. Pepper" they participated sm� shame. 718 01:05:43,053 --> 01:05:50,003 They also had such a thing "Penny Lane" - "fish and finger pie". 719 01:05:50,042 --> 01:05:55,903 They carried it with diligence. It was a little vulgar. 720 01:05:55,942 --> 01:05:59,063 The banner "A day in the life" - 721 01:05:59,852 --> 01:06:02,043 -f�r "too many holes to fill the Albert Hall. " 722 01:06:02,833 --> 01:06:07,983 It was based on an article about the wall in Blackburn. 723 01:06:08,023 --> 01:06:14,973 They thought it was about needle stick in the arm. Such was the attitude. 724 01:06:15,013 --> 01:06:21,953 They took risks on that album. They knew they were taking a risk- 725 01:06:21,993 --> 01:06:26,913 -when they had the stretched out "I'd love to turn you on". 726 01:06:26,953 --> 01:06:31,923 They knew what they were doing. They had gotten away with so much- 727 01:06:31,963 --> 01:06:35,873 -and they got away with it too. 728 01:06:35,913 --> 01:06:42,833 They introduced psychedelic drugs to the whole world. 729 01:06:42,873 --> 01:06:47,992 Many took drugs in the United States, and Timothy Leary prescribed drugs. 730 01:06:48,033 --> 01:06:53,833 Then that was the quote from "The Tibetan Death Book". 731 01:06:53,873 --> 01:06:56,963 "I know what it's like to be dead." 732 01:06:57,003 --> 01:07:02,853 They went from "She loves you" to it. It was dramatic. 733 01:07:02,893 --> 01:07:08,873 Usually it was Mick and Keith which looked like bad pictures - 734 01:07:08,913 --> 01:07:13,923 -and guys like you don't would drop his daughter off with. 735 01:07:13,963 --> 01:07:20,053 But the Beatles were no saints. They probably would have agreed. 736 01:07:20,842 --> 01:07:25,873 There was something else about these drugs which had saved the British 737 01:07:25,913 --> 01:07:30,023 like cocaine, which had been present. 738 01:07:30,063 --> 01:07:35,883 Lady Diana Cooper, a social dam in the 20th century 739 01:07:35,923 --> 01:07:38,963 - when she met pop stars ... 740 01:07:39,003 --> 01:07:46,823 "In the 20th century, we had salt cans full with cocaine. "So it was nothing new. 741 01:07:46,863 --> 01:07:52,933 Lennon read Lewis Carroll and took everything in it. 742 01:07:52,973 --> 01:07:56,903 Drugs look like something progressive. 743 01:07:56,943 --> 01:08:00,983 One could find an inner light. 744 01:08:01,023 --> 01:08:04,833 Music is a spiritual thing. 745 01:08:04,873 --> 01:08:08,842 They didn't do it in the studio. 746 01:08:08,883 --> 01:08:13,913 Or so they sat behind a screen and took a flare at a joint. 747 01:08:13,953 --> 01:08:19,903 But John went up on the roof ... That's right shows how close they stood to each other. 748 01:08:19,943 --> 01:08:25,853 Paul brought him home. Neil Aspinall was also with. 749 01:08:25,893 --> 01:08:29,053 They took care of John, who had taken LSD. 750 01:08:29,843 --> 01:08:34,003 When you take acid, you realize 751 01:08:34,043 --> 01:08:38,053 -what was happening under the trip already there. 752 01:08:38,843 --> 01:08:44,852 Then you have to live with that information. 753 01:08:44,893 --> 01:08:49,873 That's why it was simple when Maharishi arrived, before everyone was ready. 754 01:08:49,913 --> 01:08:55,853 It started with that George's wife, Patti Boyd- 755 01:08:55,893 --> 01:09:01,013 -Harious talk of Maharishi. He had come to London for many years. 756 01:09:01,053 --> 01:09:07,033 I saw his picture in the subway Long before the Beatles discovered him. 757 01:09:07,822 --> 01:09:12,963 Wealth, luxury and fame had started getting drunk 758 01:09:13,003 --> 01:09:16,933 - so they started something spiritual. 759 01:09:16,973 --> 01:09:22,823 Maharishi had a quick track to enlightenment. 760 01:09:22,863 --> 01:09:28,843 It only took about half an hour the day - perfect for a rock star. 761 01:09:28,883 --> 01:09:35,843 Michael McCartney called and said, "We'll get in the way of a thing." 762 01:09:35,883 --> 01:09:42,853 They made stuff all the time. It didn't have to be that big. 763 01:09:42,893 --> 01:09:49,063 He said, "They are going to Bangor and meet Maharishi. " 764 01:09:49,853 --> 01:09:53,043 They had met him the night before. 765 01:09:53,833 --> 01:10:00,843 at a hotel, and listened to him. George was already interested in- 766 01:10:00,883 --> 01:10:05,013 Indian mysticism, spiritual awareness and Indian music. 767 01:10:07,003 --> 01:10:12,893 I jumped on the train with the Beatles. That was 1967. 768 01:10:12,933 --> 01:10:20,823 We were in first grade. At that time it was separated. 769 01:10:20,863 --> 01:10:25,043 I sat there with the Beatles, Mick Jagger and Marianne Faithfull. 770 01:10:25,833 --> 01:10:32,833 We traveled to Bangor. We stopped in Chester. 771 01:10:32,873 --> 01:10:38,053 On the platform stood young people who screamed and wanted autographs. 772 01:10:38,843 --> 01:10:44,903 John said he was tired to write autographs. 773 01:10:44,942 --> 01:10:47,983 Then I wrote his name. 774 01:10:48,023 --> 01:10:51,003 Maharishi was on the same train. 775 01:10:51,043 --> 01:10:55,943 He gave us a mantra, which I cannot disclose. 776 01:11:07,063 --> 01:11:11,822 The Beatles are your followers now. How is it? 777 01:11:11,863 --> 01:11:14,933 I feel proud. 778 01:11:14,973 --> 01:11:18,923 If the Beatles start transcendental meditation ... 779 01:11:18,962 --> 01:11:23,033 They are the ideal when it comes to that energy and intelligence of young people. 780 01:11:23,823 --> 01:11:29,903 It gets young people to stay more understanding and intelligent. 781 01:11:29,943 --> 01:11:36,943 We met yesterday and talked for an hour after my release. 782 01:11:36,983 --> 01:11:40,823 They are intelligent and honest. 783 01:11:40,863 --> 01:11:45,053 Can the Beatles spread your doctrine among other young people in England? 784 01:11:45,842 --> 01:11:48,063 Yes, and all over the world. 785 01:11:48,853 --> 01:11:55,833 The band has fans on all continents, and people are fascinated by them. 786 01:11:55,873 --> 01:12:00,943 -What do you like about the Beatles? - They are intelligent boys. 787 01:12:00,983 --> 01:12:04,832 -And their music? - I haven't heard. 788 01:12:04,873 --> 01:12:09,022 But it is appreciated All over the world. 789 01:12:18,883 --> 01:12:23,823 Cynthia was like Candide - she was always left out. 790 01:12:23,863 --> 01:12:29,862 When they meet Maharishi in Wales she missed the train. 791 01:12:29,903 --> 01:12:33,823 She stood on the platform crying. 792 01:12:33,863 --> 01:12:37,983 Maharishi knew how to get publicity. 793 01:12:38,023 --> 01:12:44,033 Others also had� depended on the rich and famous 794 01:12:44,822 --> 01:12:50,013 because they knew about their ideas got caught with them- 795 01:12:50,053 --> 01:12:54,863 - it should also reach the public. 796 01:12:54,903 --> 01:12:57,912 Maharishi and the Krishna religion did it. 797 01:12:57,953 --> 01:13:02,823 It led to a record deal with Apple. 798 01:13:02,863 --> 01:13:05,033 The Christian affair became known 799 01:13:05,823 --> 01:13:11,022 thanks to their relationship with the Beatles. 800 01:13:42,003 --> 01:13:47,933 Considering what they've experienced and what I have experienced ... 801 01:13:47,973 --> 01:13:52,982 I've experienced some of it the things you do in a band. 802 01:13:53,023 --> 01:13:58,863 You want more. You can play live, create music 803 01:13:58,903 --> 01:14:04,852 and experience other great things, affecting one's life. 804 01:14:04,893 --> 01:14:08,003 It affects how you look at life. 805 01:14:08,043 --> 01:14:13,053 They wanted to take the spiritual to the next level. 806 01:14:13,842 --> 01:14:19,993 Maharishi was smart. A society dam launched him in the United States. 807 01:14:20,033 --> 01:14:25,003 Her son became Bungalow Bill in the song on "The White Album". 808 01:14:25,043 --> 01:14:29,952 He knew what publicity it would give 809 01:14:29,993 --> 01:14:36,873 to cooperate with it the most popular music group in the world. 810 01:14:36,913 --> 01:14:42,973 He didn't know the music, but he did knew they could spread the message. 811 01:14:43,013 --> 01:14:46,963 Maharishi was a smart businessman. 812 01:14:47,003 --> 01:14:50,873 He had studied physics. 813 01:14:50,913 --> 01:14:58,833 He knew science, marketing and spirituality. 814 01:15:14,003 --> 01:15:19,943 We arrived at Bangor. The rowers had not come. 815 01:15:19,983 --> 01:15:25,953 Me and the guys in the Beatles should eat at a Chinese restaurant. 816 01:15:25,993 --> 01:15:31,833 The bill was ten pounds, but I only had five pounds on me. 817 01:15:31,873 --> 01:15:35,873 I said: "Sorry, but this is the Beatles." 818 01:15:35,913 --> 01:15:42,923 The waiters came from Hong Kong. They heard we were from Liverpool. 819 01:15:42,963 --> 01:15:47,963 Liverpool residents used to get there on Saturdays 820 01:15:48,003 --> 01:15:54,953 -and to a spring note, so they insisted the door and sharpened his knives. 821 01:15:54,992 --> 01:16:01,863 I said, "I'm a journalist. I'll pay tomorrow. " 822 01:16:01,903 --> 01:16:06,973 The mood was unpleasant. Then George put his foot on the table. 823 01:16:07,013 --> 01:16:14,033 He was wearing Indian sandals. He cut them off. 824 01:16:14,823 --> 01:16:18,953 The Beatles had been famous for four years 825 01:16:18,992 --> 01:16:25,953 and they had stopped bringing them cash. The rowers raised the money. 826 01:16:25,992 --> 01:16:30,932 George pulled out a twenty-pound note from the sandal. 827 01:16:30,973 --> 01:16:37,903 They were multimillionaires, but they never had any cash with them. 828 01:16:37,943 --> 01:16:45,863 He thought, "A beautiful day will come to need cash. "So it was. 829 01:16:48,853 --> 01:16:52,983 Brian Epstein organized a party to celebrate "Sgt. Pepper". 830 01:16:53,023 --> 01:16:57,013 The Beatles would have liked to 831 01:16:57,053 --> 01:17:04,983 - a movie or a performance when the album was released. 832 01:17:05,022 --> 01:17:10,953 Brian had started playing for money 833 01:17:10,993 --> 01:17:15,913 and took a lot of tablets, and he was slipping. 834 01:17:15,953 --> 01:17:22,982 Cilla Black said to Brian: "I want to not having you as manager anymore. " 835 01:17:23,023 --> 01:17:26,913 Then he cried and asked her to stop. 836 01:17:26,953 --> 01:17:31,893 Brian was ... gay. 837 01:17:31,933 --> 01:17:35,933 People who were in control understood it. 838 01:17:35,973 --> 01:17:39,943 The strange thing was that he ... 839 01:17:39,983 --> 01:17:45,993 Everyone thought he liked Paul, which was the lowest in the band. 840 01:17:46,033 --> 01:17:50,843 But he liked John, which was more macho. 841 01:17:50,883 --> 01:17:58,873 He always used research picking up guys who weren't gay. 842 01:17:58,913 --> 01:18:04,943 He saw them full and brought them home. 843 01:18:04,983 --> 01:18:08,823 He supported them, and then they beat him. 844 01:18:08,863 --> 01:18:13,873 He enjoyed it, before he was a masochist. 845 01:18:13,913 --> 01:18:18,843 Those guys used to steal stuff. 846 01:18:18,883 --> 01:18:22,032 They often stole test presses, which they sold to the radio. 847 01:18:22,823 --> 01:18:28,013 He was afraid they would steal 848 01:18:28,053 --> 01:18:30,983 -Beatles songs that were not released. 849 01:18:31,022 --> 01:18:34,943 Brian had nothing to do. 850 01:18:34,983 --> 01:18:41,863 NEMS, Brian's company, had become the biggest news agency in the world. 851 01:18:41,903 --> 01:18:46,863 They represented the Beatles, Andy Williams, The Bee Gees- 852 01:18:46,903 --> 01:18:52,923 -Cream, Donovan, Tony Bennett ... It had been growing for four years. 853 01:18:52,962 --> 01:18:58,042 The Beatles had stopped touring. 854 01:18:59,923 --> 01:19:07,913 Their record deal was patted and ready- 855 01:19:07,953 --> 01:19:11,943 - so the manager had nothing to do. 856 01:19:11,983 --> 01:19:14,993 Now they turned to someone else before 857 01:19:15,033 --> 01:19:19,943 about how they would live and spend their time. 858 01:19:19,982 --> 01:19:23,873 Brian started taking more and more drugs. 859 01:19:23,913 --> 01:19:28,943 He found more and more boyfriends and he was promiscuous. 860 01:19:28,983 --> 01:19:33,833 He broke with the Beatles as much as they broke with him. 861 01:19:37,993 --> 01:19:41,913 They started with transcendental meditation. 862 01:19:41,953 --> 01:19:45,893 They signed up for a course in Bangor. 863 01:19:45,933 --> 01:19:49,023 There was resurrection when the 864 01:19:49,062 --> 01:19:53,953 to a school there are trained instructors. 865 01:19:53,993 --> 01:19:58,942 That's where they found out that Brian had died. 866 01:19:58,983 --> 01:20:03,903 He was found in his bedroom, of domestic help. 867 01:20:03,943 --> 01:20:09,933 She said he used to sleep long on the weekends. 868 01:20:09,973 --> 01:20:14,953 She said he was home all evening yesterday, which was unusual. 869 01:20:14,993 --> 01:20:21,903 Mr. Epstein had been bad for a while, and taken summer tablets. 870 01:20:21,943 --> 01:20:27,053 Have a month but his father suddenly. 871 01:20:27,843 --> 01:20:31,903 His friends had tried to persuade him to take time off. 872 01:20:31,943 --> 01:20:35,973 But yesterday he had said: "I'll be fine." 873 01:20:36,013 --> 01:20:40,012 His friends have been tough. 874 01:20:40,053 --> 01:20:44,003 They've met his lawyer, Mr. Jacobs. 875 01:20:44,043 --> 01:20:49,002 One of the friends said as he walked: "It was an accident." 876 01:20:49,043 --> 01:20:56,013 He was unhappy. He had never had a partner. 877 01:20:56,053 --> 01:21:02,973 He had had several boyfriends, but nothing really related. 878 01:21:03,013 --> 01:21:10,863 After all, the forest went he became depressed. 879 01:21:10,903 --> 01:21:14,852 He took tablets and were suicidal. 880 01:21:14,893 --> 01:21:20,903 He had done a suicide attempt earlier. 881 01:21:20,943 --> 01:21:24,833 He was very depressed. 882 01:21:25,993 --> 01:21:30,893 -How do you want to pay tribute to Mr Epstein? - We don't know what to say. 883 01:21:30,933 --> 01:21:37,893 - He was one of us. - The words are not enough. 884 01:21:37,933 --> 01:21:43,913 -What are you going to do now? -We return to London. 885 01:21:43,953 --> 01:21:48,973 Did Maharishi have any comforting words? -Well ... 886 01:21:49,012 --> 01:21:53,943 Meditation gives a self-confidence to do so 887 01:21:53,983 --> 01:21:56,943 - though we haven't held it so long. 888 01:21:56,983 --> 01:22:02,023 What we've been talking about now is about 889 01:22:02,063 --> 01:22:07,063 -that they don't exist. It's just physical. 890 01:22:07,853 --> 01:22:12,933 But life goes on, and you continue to live. 891 01:22:12,973 --> 01:22:19,963 It's not such a disappointment as one might think. 892 01:22:20,003 --> 01:22:26,033 It's a comfort to know that he is fine. 893 01:22:26,823 --> 01:22:31,053 This afternoon Maharishi talked to you. 894 01:22:31,843 --> 01:22:34,943 What did he give him? 895 01:22:34,983 --> 01:22:40,003 He said we didn't would be overwhelmed with grief. 896 01:22:40,043 --> 01:22:43,043 We're going to think happy thoughts about Brian 897 01:22:43,833 --> 01:22:47,893 - before those thoughts come to reach him. 898 01:22:47,933 --> 01:22:55,893 - Did he meet Mr. Epstein? -No, but he was looking forward to it. 899 01:22:55,933 --> 01:23:01,043 You see that John is shocked. They were taken by Maharishi. 900 01:23:01,833 --> 01:23:06,993 It was no pastime. They believed him. 901 01:23:07,033 --> 01:23:13,033 They had been thrown in in a chaotic world. Brian had. 902 01:23:13,823 --> 01:23:15,893 It was... 903 01:23:15,933 --> 01:23:22,053 There are moments in everyone's life when we turn to some religion- 904 01:23:22,843 --> 01:23:28,013 or to any philosophy and seek answers. 905 01:23:28,053 --> 01:23:30,873 That's what they did. 906 01:23:30,913 --> 01:23:38,853 I got a call from a friend, and I could hardly believe it. 907 01:23:38,893 --> 01:23:44,003 I remember thinking: "What are we doing now?" 908 01:23:44,043 --> 01:23:50,913 It came as a shock to everyone. "What are we doing now?" 909 01:23:50,952 --> 01:23:55,892 I remember that Maharishi told them ... 910 01:23:55,933 --> 01:24:00,993 "Don't worry. He has moved on to the next step in life. " 911 01:24:01,033 --> 01:24:06,053 "Don't be sorry, before he is transformed into ... " 912 01:24:06,843 --> 01:24:12,822 He came up with empty phrases, and unfortunately the Beatles were interviewed- 913 01:24:12,863 --> 01:24:18,042 - just after Maharishi had given them the hell of a shit. 914 01:24:18,833 --> 01:24:22,833 They seemed cool. 915 01:24:22,873 --> 01:24:27,903 Brian's mother and Brian's brother, Clive- 916 01:24:27,943 --> 01:24:31,053 - kept up, but they didn't mean anything. 917 01:24:31,843 --> 01:24:36,013 Brian should have gone to Bangor, but he stayed home. 918 01:24:36,053 --> 01:24:41,033 The same weekend Robert Stigwood told me. 919 01:24:41,823 --> 01:24:48,923 Brian was there, and we three sat and watched sports on television. 920 01:24:48,963 --> 01:24:52,973 Then we did to Battersea nightclub. 921 01:24:53,013 --> 01:24:59,003 We probably smelled a little gray, Before I remember we were goofy. 922 01:24:59,043 --> 01:25:05,953 Then we have supper. Brian said: "Shall we have dinner together one day?" 923 01:25:05,993 --> 01:25:09,843 We decided to meet next night. 924 01:25:09,882 --> 01:25:14,822 We drove to Islington and dinner. 925 01:25:14,863 --> 01:25:17,993 Then we went home to him. 926 01:25:18,033 --> 01:25:23,003 I soon realized that Brian wanted to that I would sleep over. 927 01:25:23,043 --> 01:25:26,003 But I didn't want to. 928 01:25:26,043 --> 01:25:32,933 I said I'd go home, and Brian got angry. 929 01:25:32,973 --> 01:25:36,923 He said: "Can't you stay over the weekend?" 930 01:25:36,963 --> 01:25:43,043 But I knew what he wanted, so I said, "We'll take it another time." 931 01:25:43,832 --> 01:25:48,833 The next day he invited me over, but I'd go to Ireland. 932 01:25:48,873 --> 01:25:56,823 -What do we know about Brian's death? -We know nothing. 933 01:25:56,863 --> 01:25:59,873 I talked to Jo the next day. 934 01:25:59,913 --> 01:26:06,903 They couldn't ... They didn't even know that he was at home. 935 01:26:06,942 --> 01:26:11,013 He should have been in the country. 936 01:26:11,053 --> 01:26:16,903 Then the driver had called and said that no one opened the door. 937 01:26:16,943 --> 01:26:21,973 Then she went there and found him. 938 01:26:22,013 --> 01:26:29,923 I didn't understand anything until he was so happy to be there. 939 01:26:29,963 --> 01:26:35,983 Then he came home after half the weekend? 940 01:26:36,022 --> 01:26:38,943 But no one knows the whole story. 941 01:26:38,983 --> 01:26:45,843 - Should I tell you about me and Brian? - Yeah, yeah. 942 01:26:45,883 --> 01:26:51,003 When I was in Ireland a friend called and said Brian was dead. 943 01:26:51,043 --> 01:26:56,963 It was in the paper that he had died of an overdose. 944 01:26:57,003 --> 01:27:01,833 I had the world's first answering machine- 945 01:27:01,872 --> 01:27:06,903 as a company had custom made �t me. 946 01:27:06,943 --> 01:27:10,983 I knew myself that when I came home to London- 947 01:27:11,023 --> 01:27:14,993 I would have a message from Brian. 948 01:27:15,033 --> 01:27:19,922 And I really did several messages from Brian. 949 01:27:19,963 --> 01:27:23,033 He had gone to his country. 950 01:27:23,823 --> 01:27:29,833 He had left a message ... "Please come to my country." 951 01:27:29,873 --> 01:27:35,903 Then he said, "I'm home. Come over. "But I was in Ireland. 952 01:27:35,943 --> 01:27:39,052 The messages became increasingly unclear. 953 01:27:39,843 --> 01:27:44,013 He was safe taken summertime tablets or anything else- 954 01:27:44,053 --> 01:27:48,873 and forgot he took one, and taken several. 955 01:27:48,913 --> 01:27:56,883 On the last message He said, "I wish you were here." 956 01:27:56,923 --> 01:28:00,943 Then he did. So I was involved in that. 957 01:28:00,983 --> 01:28:07,043 Foolishly, I would be correct, so I deleted the tape. 958 01:28:09,853 --> 01:28:15,963 I didn't listen to it again. I did not know what it would be. 959 01:28:34,903 --> 01:28:38,893 Brian had been a large part of the band. 960 01:28:38,933 --> 01:28:44,833 One thought: "What's going to happen now?" 961 01:28:44,873 --> 01:28:48,033 But he had played his part. 962 01:28:48,823 --> 01:28:54,043 He had gone on to the spirit world and they would be somewhere else. 963 01:28:55,063 --> 01:29:02,963 What they lost was a blame, as a protective parent. 964 01:29:03,003 --> 01:29:08,043 Brian's agreement was not always the best for the Beatles. 965 01:29:08,833 --> 01:29:15,892 He was based on a previous agreement. He didn't realize it was new. 966 01:29:15,933 --> 01:29:20,953 But he was committed to protecting them. 967 01:29:20,993 --> 01:29:28,053 As John said that they were more popular with Jesus. 968 01:29:28,842 --> 01:29:32,993 Brian had staged the US tour yesterday to protect them. 969 01:29:33,032 --> 01:29:37,053 It did not work, but he wanted to. 970 01:29:37,843 --> 01:29:43,942 He had acted as a shield Ever since they first met. 971 01:29:43,983 --> 01:29:46,883 He protected them. 972 01:29:46,923 --> 01:29:52,022 And Brian's group ... 973 01:29:52,063 --> 01:29:59,063 Peter Brown and the others at NEMS helped the Beatles. 974 01:29:59,853 --> 01:30:05,833 They paid their bills and bought gifts for their girlfriends. 975 01:30:05,873 --> 01:30:12,833 Brian might not be so good to take care of the financial 976 01:30:12,873 --> 01:30:20,823 but without him, they did not become big. He believed in them. 977 01:30:20,863 --> 01:30:26,042 Then he watched to keep all the sponges away. 978 01:30:26,833 --> 01:30:33,993 But he did not succeed Keep their own sponges away. 979 01:30:34,033 --> 01:30:39,993 He got rid of money, but not the Beatles. 980 01:30:40,033 --> 01:30:46,903 Without him and his caution when it was money 981 01:30:46,943 --> 01:30:49,923 -the flocks around them. 982 01:30:49,963 --> 01:30:55,833 A group needs an arbitrator when you are not together. 983 01:30:55,872 --> 01:31:01,833 In "Help!" they all offered in the same house- 984 01:31:01,873 --> 01:31:04,033 -but it was just in the movie. 985 01:31:04,823 --> 01:31:09,863 In a group develops everyone's personalities. 986 01:31:09,903 --> 01:31:15,973 You are not always together, but you get it working. 987 01:31:16,013 --> 01:31:21,913 You come to a solution so you can move on. 988 01:31:21,953 --> 01:31:26,903 Without Brian they had no arbitrator. 989 01:31:26,942 --> 01:31:32,823 They couldn't do anything themselves. They had always had him. 990 01:31:32,863 --> 01:31:39,973 He was the one keeping the band together at that time. 991 01:31:40,013 --> 01:31:46,033 They shook it off quickly and started Apple. 992 01:31:46,823 --> 01:31:51,833 They started Apple to merge their assets 993 01:31:51,873 --> 01:31:58,823 -and don't have to pay so high income tax. 994 01:31:58,863 --> 01:32:02,003 But they made a mistake. 995 01:32:02,043 --> 01:32:06,973 They didn't do it to protect the rights to his music 996 01:32:07,013 --> 01:32:10,053 ... without thinking only short-term. 997 01:32:10,842 --> 01:32:15,053 It was a record label, which should have some side movement. 998 01:32:15,843 --> 01:32:21,893 The Beatles were also interested out of fashion, so they should have a store. 999 01:32:21,933 --> 01:32:27,022 They would do everything possible. They should also have a culture 1000 01:32:27,063 --> 01:32:33,943 that would give young creative people supported. 1001 01:32:33,983 --> 01:32:37,963 Before the Beatles remember the time when they did not receive support. 1002 01:32:38,002 --> 01:32:41,913 The Beatles had always been there! 1003 01:32:41,953 --> 01:32:47,903 They had Brian Epstein, George Martin and Dick James. 1004 01:32:47,943 --> 01:32:52,913 They had three people who encouraged them all they could. 1005 01:32:52,953 --> 01:32:59,003 But, no ... They had to suffer, so they would help others suffering. 1006 01:32:59,043 --> 01:33:05,823 I interviewed Paul, and he talked about communist department stores and such. 1007 01:33:05,863 --> 01:33:08,853 I thought, "That doesn't work." 1008 01:33:08,893 --> 01:33:15,053 I was unsure of the idea, but I said, "Yeah, so interesting." 1009 01:33:15,843 --> 01:33:20,992 It could have been good, but it didn't. 1010 01:33:21,033 --> 01:33:24,953 Here we have summer fashion. 1011 01:33:24,993 --> 01:33:30,973 Among the �sk�darna sat George Harrison and John Lennon. 1012 01:33:37,003 --> 01:33:42,923 Hears a suit in leather which costs 25 guineas. 1013 01:33:44,023 --> 01:33:48,873 Patti Boyd's creepy announcement costs 9.5 guineas. 1014 01:33:48,913 --> 01:33:52,873 Here we have a white satin blazer. 1015 01:33:52,913 --> 01:33:56,042 I worked at Apple Boutique. 1016 01:33:56,833 --> 01:34:01,033 I worked there for three months before we went to India. 1017 01:34:01,823 --> 01:34:05,833 It was brand new. 1018 01:34:05,873 --> 01:34:12,033 There were trinkets from India and posters with Ganesha. 1019 01:34:12,823 --> 01:34:17,863 It was exciting and different to work there. 1020 01:34:17,903 --> 01:34:22,922 It agrees with that how we felt at that time. 1021 01:34:22,963 --> 01:34:30,003 That the world can be full of color, and not just black and white. 1022 01:34:30,043 --> 01:34:33,943 - Did they hit one? -Yes, yesterday. 1023 01:34:33,983 --> 01:34:38,842 Right when they got here we met. 1024 01:34:38,883 --> 01:34:44,853 Now we have been around since ten o'clock, when they had breakfast. 1025 01:34:44,893 --> 01:34:50,832 -How long were they here? - About three hours. 1026 01:34:50,873 --> 01:34:58,853 -What have you done? -We have meditated and talked. 1027 01:34:58,893 --> 01:35:05,943 -Will they finish the course? -I hope so. 1028 01:35:05,983 --> 01:35:09,863 What should they do to make it? 1029 01:35:09,903 --> 01:35:15,932 They must have a deep and clear experience of existing. 1030 01:35:15,973 --> 01:35:22,843 A doctor had said I had throat flux, but it was something else. 1031 01:35:22,883 --> 01:35:27,973 John and Cynthia come and greet me. 1032 01:35:28,012 --> 01:35:35,863 John had made a drawing for me, by an Indian man with a turban. 1033 01:35:35,902 --> 01:35:39,863 He played flute and crossed his legs. 1034 01:35:39,903 --> 01:35:43,033 A snake emerged from a basket. 1035 01:35:43,823 --> 01:35:48,013 It said, "With the help of all internal and external forces "- 1036 01:35:48,053 --> 01:35:52,943 - "I'm driving your throat flux. Hugs from John and Cyn. " 1037 01:35:52,983 --> 01:35:57,003 George talked about that he had taken LSD. 1038 01:35:57,043 --> 01:36:02,913 But it was like climbing a mountain and just see more mountain ranges. 1039 01:36:02,953 --> 01:36:07,973 He wanted to go explore spirituality without drugs. 1040 01:36:08,013 --> 01:36:11,853 Then they got a break. 1041 01:36:11,893 --> 01:36:16,023 They got to be together in a quiet place. 1042 01:36:16,063 --> 01:36:20,993 Maharishi wasn't the first who came into their lives. 1043 01:36:21,033 --> 01:36:26,973 I met the band every night p� The Scotch of St. James. 1044 01:36:27,013 --> 01:36:32,963 They had met another such person. Maharishi comes in later. 1045 01:36:33,003 --> 01:36:40,833 After a while, they realized that the first person was not so good. 1046 01:36:40,873 --> 01:36:43,943 So they went to India with Maharishi 1047 01:36:43,983 --> 01:36:47,983 -which turned out to be kind of a scam. 1048 01:36:48,023 --> 01:36:51,873 But he booked nice hotel rooms. 1049 01:36:51,913 --> 01:36:56,043 That's fine to take on Indian mysticism- 1050 01:36:56,833 --> 01:36:59,043 -but �nd� stay at luxury hotel. 1051 01:36:59,833 --> 01:37:04,873 Near the oct to Maharishi in India ... 1052 01:37:04,913 --> 01:37:09,883 Maureen, Ringo's wife, was terrified of insects. 1053 01:37:09,923 --> 01:37:15,013 She bought kicking suits for adults 1054 01:37:15,053 --> 01:37:18,893 - so they didn't come to her. 1055 01:37:18,933 --> 01:37:25,953 Richie, who had a weird stomach after being ill as a child, said: 1056 01:37:25,993 --> 01:37:31,033 "Can you buy stomach medicine? Buy several liters. " 1057 01:37:31,823 --> 01:37:37,853 "And fill a suitcase with white beans in tomatoes. " 1058 01:37:37,893 --> 01:37:44,873 So I filled a whole suitcase with gastric medicine and ... 1059 01:37:44,913 --> 01:37:50,003 Two weeks later they came home. I said to Maureen: "You were gone a long time." 1060 01:37:50,042 --> 01:37:53,853 "Did the white beans run out?" 1061 01:37:53,893 --> 01:37:57,943 The concept for Apple had been prepared before Brian died. 1062 01:37:57,983 --> 01:38:03,063 He was worried because he wasn't had been involved in the planning. 1063 01:38:03,853 --> 01:38:09,903 They didn't keep him outside, though the project was not his initiative. 1064 01:38:09,943 --> 01:38:13,873 I had heard about Apple before Brian died. 1065 01:38:13,913 --> 01:38:17,943 It made him feel outside. 1066 01:38:18,933 --> 01:38:25,963 When they created Apple ... We used to have lunch in the office. 1067 01:38:26,003 --> 01:38:29,903 We had our own chef. 1068 01:38:30,953 --> 01:38:36,013 Paul comes in and one day. They had lost money. 1069 01:38:36,052 --> 01:38:39,833 He said, "It's gonna come in a guy" - 1070 01:38:39,873 --> 01:38:45,893 - "and tell what's wrong with our business plan. " 1071 01:38:45,932 --> 01:38:51,963 It was Beeching. He came over for lunch. 1072 01:38:52,003 --> 01:38:56,953 He would tell what we did wrong. 1073 01:38:56,993 --> 01:38:59,973 They eat lunch together. 1074 01:39:00,013 --> 01:39:04,893 I made notes during the meeting. 1075 01:39:05,963 --> 01:39:11,992 He looked at Paul and said: "I can't help anyone." 1076 01:39:12,033 --> 01:39:17,043 "I work for much bigger companies than Apple. " 1077 01:39:17,833 --> 01:39:20,013 Paul said, "Okay, yeah." 1078 01:39:20,053 --> 01:39:25,992 I looked at Paul and said, "Yes, exactly." 1079 01:39:26,033 --> 01:39:31,963 They had good and crazy ideas. The wanted a school and gave out books. 1080 01:39:32,003 --> 01:39:38,963 They invited people to submit his poems and novels. 1081 01:39:39,003 --> 01:39:45,043 Then they had entire rooms full of paper. They weren't prepared for it. 1082 01:39:45,833 --> 01:39:52,863 Even though the Beatles were at the forefront. They took control of their product. 1083 01:39:52,903 --> 01:39:57,003 That was the record cover and how things looked. 1084 01:39:57,043 --> 01:40:03,833 Then it applied to the material, but it did were not the same amounts as today. 1085 01:40:03,873 --> 01:40:08,003 A problem with Apple and everything that happened there was ... 1086 01:40:08,043 --> 01:40:14,963 They had money, freedom and ideas from India and Maharishi. 1087 01:40:15,003 --> 01:40:21,913 They had a lot of spunkers, and so they tend to be good at what they do. 1088 01:40:21,952 --> 01:40:29,943 It was like Magic Alex who wanted to create wallpapers with microphones 1089 01:40:29,983 --> 01:40:34,863 ... that would make the world's best sound. 1090 01:40:34,903 --> 01:40:40,853 John was convinced that he could conjure. 1091 01:40:40,893 --> 01:40:44,933 They were pretty ... We were all naive. 1092 01:40:44,973 --> 01:40:47,993 Everything was so new. 1093 01:40:48,033 --> 01:40:54,913 But it was nice that they were not selfish. 1094 01:40:54,953 --> 01:40:58,873 Someone could say: "I'm doing good vanilla ice cream." 1095 01:40:58,913 --> 01:41:04,052 Then John said, "We'll eat it every day. "Everyone could get jobs there. 1096 01:41:04,843 --> 01:41:10,053 It got full of mediocre people there. 1097 01:41:10,842 --> 01:41:17,943 Apple Boutique went the same way. They brought in all sorts of clothes. 1098 01:41:17,982 --> 01:41:22,903 None of what they did went on sale. 1099 01:41:22,943 --> 01:41:27,903 Neil was incredibly conscientious, and a nice human 1100 01:41:27,943 --> 01:41:31,953 And Peter worked hard. 1101 01:41:31,993 --> 01:41:37,883 The office was run very friction-free and effective. 1102 01:41:37,923 --> 01:41:41,873 My office was lying between Neils and Peters. 1103 01:41:41,912 --> 01:41:47,973 Neil and Mal had started "Long and winding road". 1104 01:41:48,013 --> 01:41:51,873 They talked into old memories of tape. 1105 01:41:51,913 --> 01:41:58,983 I did all the correspondence with the US 1106 01:41:59,023 --> 01:42:04,963 -and searched f� tag p� old movie clips with the Beatles. 1107 01:42:05,003 --> 01:42:09,962 That's how we were got everything from the US. 1108 01:42:10,003 --> 01:42:15,973 A night out I went past Neil's side. 1109 01:42:16,013 --> 01:42:20,053 Neil and Mal were sitting by the fire. 1110 01:42:20,843 --> 01:42:26,973 I got to climb over ... I shouldn't say that. 1111 01:42:27,013 --> 01:42:31,963 Derek Taylor was lying on the floor and squeaked, and I didn't pass. 1112 01:42:32,003 --> 01:42:38,043 The cartoon character drives Maharishi. Are you done with him? 1113 01:42:38,832 --> 01:42:42,863 We've gone past that phase. 1114 01:42:42,903 --> 01:42:47,873 He's nice, but we won't see him anymore. 1115 01:42:48,953 --> 01:42:53,943 I thought he was a scam from the very beginning. 1116 01:42:53,983 --> 01:42:59,943 The problem was ... John really went into things. 1117 01:42:59,983 --> 01:43:03,862 He was relieved. 1118 01:43:03,903 --> 01:43:09,832 They had a sheltered existence so long. 1119 01:43:09,873 --> 01:43:15,913 I thought: "The tall man is a prisoner." 1120 01:43:15,953 --> 01:43:21,903 I think for sure that meditation can be useful- 1121 01:43:21,943 --> 01:43:25,863 - but I don't believe it. 1122 01:43:25,903 --> 01:43:29,953 The Beatles believed in the spiritual. 1123 01:43:29,992 --> 01:43:33,913 They wanted to spread it further. 1124 01:43:33,953 --> 01:43:40,883 Maharishi said that the Beatles were known throughout the world. 1125 01:43:40,923 --> 01:43:44,062 They could spread his message. 1126 01:43:44,853 --> 01:43:50,013 The plan was to start a meditation activity in London- 1127 01:43:50,053 --> 01:43:53,033 -which the Beatles would be involved in. 1128 01:43:53,823 --> 01:43:59,903 Patti had dreamed of Maharishi and saw him in a different light. 1129 01:43:59,943 --> 01:44:04,873 And then there it was Something to do with Mia Farrow. 1130 01:44:04,913 --> 01:44:09,893 There were many, but we were out of nowhere. 1131 01:44:09,933 --> 01:44:12,003 They lived another life. 1132 01:44:12,042 --> 01:44:18,973 We meditated for six, seven hours - sometimes all day. 1133 01:44:19,013 --> 01:44:24,893 It was something else entirely What we and the Beatles were used to. 1134 01:44:24,933 --> 01:44:27,993 Maharishi got bad publicity. 1135 01:44:28,033 --> 01:44:33,963 He was inexcusable. He just looked a little weird. 1136 01:44:34,003 --> 01:44:40,863 But now you don't see things like that. At that time they disliked him. 1137 01:44:40,903 --> 01:44:47,963 He just said contradictory things, like loving each other. 1138 01:44:48,003 --> 01:44:52,053 It was an extension of the hippie philosophy. 1139 01:44:52,843 --> 01:44:56,833 Poor Maharishi found out that we should increase. 1140 01:44:56,873 --> 01:45:01,943 He sat watching us, and a man holds an umbrella over him. 1141 01:45:01,983 --> 01:45:05,942 He said, "Why are you going?" 1142 01:45:05,983 --> 01:45:10,903 John must have said, but I don't remember ... 1143 01:45:10,943 --> 01:45:15,983 "If you look cosmic you should know why. " 1144 01:45:18,863 --> 01:45:23,823 The Apple Store Closure, July 1968 1145 01:45:24,003 --> 01:45:30,003 The Beatles store should be closed. They say that they are tired of it. 1146 01:45:42,033 --> 01:45:48,013 I'm really shaky. I was pushed in. 1147 01:45:48,053 --> 01:45:53,993 - Were there a lot of people outside? - I've never seen anything like it! 1148 01:45:54,033 --> 01:46:00,033 - What kind of clothes are you looking for? - Anything that's fresh. 1149 01:46:00,823 --> 01:46:03,822 - Where are you going? -For everything is free. 1150 01:46:03,863 --> 01:46:07,043 - Did you shop here otherwise? - No, it's getting expensive. 1151 01:46:07,833 --> 01:46:12,983 - What are you looking for? - A dress or a pair of pants. 1152 01:46:13,023 --> 01:46:17,973 - Would you have acted differently? - Yeah, I used to shop here. 1153 01:46:18,013 --> 01:46:20,963 I like the store. 1154 01:46:21,003 --> 01:46:22,993 You have to wonder ... 1155 01:46:23,033 --> 01:46:29,863 How long would the relationship be between? the band and their manager please? 1156 01:46:29,903 --> 01:46:33,993 Then Yoko Ono came into the picture. 1157 01:46:34,033 --> 01:46:39,023 She had great influence, especially John. 1158 01:46:39,063 --> 01:46:44,973 Then the Beatles became a company. Then Alan Klein came into the picture. 1159 01:46:45,013 --> 01:46:51,863 Then you see how it sounds brilliant The pop group is constantly changing. 1160 01:47:02,893 --> 01:47:08,993 I think that it's a perfect record. 1161 01:47:09,033 --> 01:47:15,973 It meant so much, and it still does. 1162 01:47:16,013 --> 01:47:22,053 It is the world's best rock album. 1163 01:47:22,843 --> 01:47:28,042 None of the Beatles records are bad. Everyone is brilliant. 1164 01:47:28,833 --> 01:47:35,823 But this is my favorite, because I was on the whole trip. 1165 01:47:35,862 --> 01:47:41,883 It was revolutionary what is the concept and the cover. 1166 01:47:41,923 --> 01:47:46,973 It became tremendous for them could advertise in a new way. 1167 01:47:47,013 --> 01:47:52,932 Then everyone was imprisoned by them. Almost no one criticized them. 1168 01:47:52,973 --> 01:47:56,963 Everyone thought everything was brilliant. 1169 01:47:57,003 --> 01:48:01,983 It was a masterpiece, like a pop symphony. 1170 01:48:02,023 --> 01:48:05,902 The continuity was wonderful- 1171 01:48:05,943 --> 01:48:10,853 -from the first song to the end. 1172 01:48:10,893 --> 01:48:14,853 The lads went into each other. 1173 01:48:14,893 --> 01:48:21,003 The Beatles have something for everyone. It's the world's best record. 1174 01:48:21,043 --> 01:48:25,963 It's amazing. What's more who has been around for 50 years? 1175 01:48:26,003 --> 01:48:30,003 How many generations still listening to it? 1176 01:48:30,042 --> 01:48:35,033 Listen to the record in mono, not in stereo. 1177 01:48:35,823 --> 01:48:40,833 The Beatles weren't there when the disc is mixed. They were in India. 1178 01:48:40,873 --> 01:48:46,913 They listened to it and made all decisions in mono. 1179 01:48:46,953 --> 01:48:50,062 That's the most important thing I can say. 1180 01:48:50,853 --> 01:48:56,913 When you get a record and ... It was many years ago. 1181 01:48:56,953 --> 01:49:02,892 There were one, two or three songs on the disc that you really liked. 1182 01:49:02,933 --> 01:49:05,963 The rest of the songs were just there. 1183 01:49:06,003 --> 01:49:11,943 They jumped over them, p that time when you did it yourself. 1184 01:49:11,983 --> 01:49:17,993 On the Beatles records it was two-way - almost everyone liked it. 1185 01:49:18,033 --> 01:49:22,982 They caught that moment. They were perfect. 1186 01:49:23,023 --> 01:49:29,022 They took everyone else with them, as a locomotive. 1187 01:49:29,063 --> 01:49:35,943 If they had had with "Penny Lane" and "Strawberry fields" - 1188 01:49:35,983 --> 01:49:40,853 - had it become the world's best record. 1189 01:49:40,893 --> 01:49:45,003 Sometimes I thought, "I can hardly believe it is right. " 1190 01:49:45,043 --> 01:49:51,973 But I knew that the music would last forever. 1191 01:49:52,013 --> 01:49:56,042 You get an insight into a time of change. 1192 01:49:56,833 --> 01:49:59,952 The Beatles give an insight into the 60's- 1193 01:49:59,993 --> 01:50:04,923 -and in the world and how it was changed. 1194 01:50:04,962 --> 01:50:10,053 It is timeless. People are studying still Shakespeare. 1195 01:50:10,843 --> 01:50:15,953 With the Beatles, there were also a well-being factor. 1196 01:50:15,992 --> 01:50:19,983 If you are depressed to listen to the Beatles. 1197 01:50:20,023 --> 01:50:25,923 Then you see the world in a better light. Their music has healing powers. 1198 01:50:25,963 --> 01:50:32,823 Four guys ... It worked and they had talent. 1199 01:50:32,863 --> 01:50:37,923 It never comes to come a band like them. 1200 01:50:37,963 --> 01:50:43,012 Brian Epstein was interviewed in the Liverpool Echo. 1201 01:50:43,053 --> 01:50:48,982 He said, "The Beatles will be bigger than Elvis. "Everyone laughed. 1202 01:50:49,023 --> 01:50:56,043 "How can some leather-clad guys in a small band from Liverpool "- 1203 01:50:56,833 --> 01:51:02,853 - "Get bigger on Elvis?" Elvis was the world's greatest artist, after all. 1204 01:51:02,893 --> 01:51:06,063 But he got right. 1205 01:51:06,853 --> 01:51:13,843 He looked something we didn't see. The Beatles thought it was embarrassing. 1206 01:51:13,883 --> 01:51:18,823 "Should we be bigger than Elvis?" But Brian was right. 1207 01:51:18,863 --> 01:51:25,043 Charisma and the resurrection that the name Beatles creates �n today ... 1208 01:51:25,833 --> 01:51:28,832 Where to be: 1209 01:51:28,873 --> 01:51:31,922 Mexico, South America, Japan, Germany ... 1210 01:51:31,963 --> 01:51:38,923 If you call the Beatles a little � in Samoa, people become euphoric. 1211 01:51:38,963 --> 01:51:42,893 That's what they have left behind. 1212 01:51:42,933 --> 01:51:46,862 No one knows if anyone can do it. 1213 01:51:46,903 --> 01:51:53,873 But that's fine, and it was wonderful to have been a part of it. 1214 01:52:03,963 --> 01:52:10,833 538 days after "Sgt. Pepper" the Beatles released a double album. 1215 01:52:10,873 --> 01:52:16,023 The record was listed all over the world. 1216 01:52:18,002 --> 01:52:21,863 Translation: Helena Lagerholm www.btistudios.com 108517

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