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August 1966
Start on an outstanding year ...
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It was only 22 years since the war.
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First, we have a UK
depicted in black and white pictures
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and then another time will come, in the future,
the Beatles lay in the front.
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-John, are you looking forward to the turn?
-Yes.
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The controversy over religion ...
Are you worried about how things are in the US?
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Yes,
but I hope it works out.
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-Is it a controversial turn�?
- No, it'll be fine.
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- Why do you think so?
-It will be fine.
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We will demonstrate
to stop the appearance.
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There are small-time protesters
were the only ones to protest.
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The Beatles were the biggest in the world.
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The Beatles were just as great
as presidents and heads of state.
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- How are you? Can you say hello?
-Hello.
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- Hey, guys.
-Hello!
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-John, do you regret what you said?
-Yes.
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They were much more popular ...
I don't think of the name.
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But they were more popular in the church.
There is no doubt about that.
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That's when the problems started,
in the studio on radio WAQY-
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- which reaches 750000 listeners
in Birmingham, Alabama.
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Tommy Charles had read what John
Lennon had said about Christianity-
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-as previously
had gone unnoticed.
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When Jesus was alive, it was probably around
300 people who heard him speak.
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Even if you think about the present,
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and what he means to society,
So was the Beatles bigger.
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But at that time
one was possessed by Jesus in the United States.
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I thank God for that
that Jesus is popular with me.
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He saved me 31 years ago.
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- Is he popular with you?
-Amen!
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The Beatles were not even qualified
to talk about milk prices.
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They looked up feelings like mushrooms
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-s� they experienced
that they grew twice as fast.
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I know Brian was worried
before leaving for the United States.
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But it was innocently said by John,
before they were bigger.
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More wanted the Beatles in church.
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- Are you worried about the Beatles?
-Yes.
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-For what?
- Their safety.
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- What can you do?
-Not much.
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In that country
security has always been great-
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-and the turns always have
been well ranked.
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Memphis burned records too
the guys were scared to get shot.
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It was weird.
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The criticism has come from the Bible.
Will you reschedule the tour?
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-to avoid areas
when you burn the band's records?
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No.
I have talked to several promoters.
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Later I will have
a meeting with some promoters.
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They are not worried about anything
concerts will be staged.
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If the promoters would like
put in a concert
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- I wouldn't look back.
The Memphis Concert
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-which lies closest
when it breaks out
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- sold more tickets yesterday
They had done before.
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Tony Barrow advised Datebook
about the interviews.
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He came to Art Unger, the editor,
and said, "It suits you."
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But Art Unger sent it on
to radio experts.
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He sent it
to radio celebrities in Alabama.
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That's where it started.
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-Did you see your statement?
- I've seen a version of it.
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- Can it be better now?
-Yes, if it could be better before.
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But it wasn't that many
upset as people made me believe.
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They decided not to
Ask if John asked for excuse.
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He did, but reluctantly.
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My comparison was to England.
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We meant more to the youth
Jesus.
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I didn't mean it as criticism.
It was just facts.
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It is better in England than it is.
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I'm not saying we're better off.
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And I don't compare ourselves
with Jesus or God.
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What I said was wrong.
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George said, "They just learn to buy more
discs to replace those burnt. "
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What do you think?
Does the group see what they think?
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Absolutely.
I've never said anything else.
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Did you see that John would apologize?
-We came up with it in common.
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I've never ruled over them ...
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-When it sounds good,
the artistic or what they say.
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Everyone decides for themselves, and me
contributes with one fifth of the thoughts.
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All that should happen
at the end of a long world tour.
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Other things had happened.
They had been killed in Japan.
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Then they were beaten in the Philippines
to have nobbat Imelda Marcos-
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-and didn't come to her invitation.
That was the drop.
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They thought they would be murdered.
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S� pass early
people started thinking about it.
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- What happened at the airport in Manila?
- They kicked and put us down.
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We were scared.
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How were you, George?
- I was terrified.
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It was horrible.
There were five big guys.
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- They were armed.
- They kicked us.
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They wanted us to stay
as ill-treated as possible-
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before we got to the airport.
We hurried.
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I tried to avoid those people.
They tried to pose problems.
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Yes, those were the five.
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- Did you carry your own luggage?
Just for hand luggage.
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Our rowers should carry our bags.
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- They shut down the escalators.
- We had to support the reinforcers.
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-How many protesters was that?
- I thought it was 30.
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It was a small arm that hit us.
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Then there were ten pieces behind
and curved.
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When we looked
there were a lot of kids.
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They stood there like Gestapo and bowed.
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We knew they wanted to break.
They put us down.
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And if we had done anything ...
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- Did you have a nice trip otherwise?
-Yes, good.
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- Except that morning.
-Japan was fantastic.
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-Delhi was fine.
-Everyone was nice in Japan.
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They should have taken over Manila.
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-Do you want to play in the Philippines again?
-No never.
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When they were in Delhi, they started
talk about quitting touring.
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Brian was beyond himself,
before then, he would not need-
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-if they were just in the studio.
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He was in his prime
when he booked tours for the Beatles.
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He hurt the night business
and liked the spectacle.
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The Beatles came out of the lodge
to play a second concert.
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Each step was carefully monitored
of 82 police officers.
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It was completely crazy about the Beatles.
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It was amazing that they stood out
and did what was expected of them.
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When you think about which ego
Even smaller rock bands today ...
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The Beatles stood out with-
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-for it would be so,
was incredible.
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The Beatle's plan ran away
the hundreds of prospective fans
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to a deserted runway.
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Half a dozen young people
throw away from the security guards.
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The Beatles were worried about visiting
The south, but the turn has gone well.
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After half the turn, they have
pulled in half a million dollars
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-and "Yellow submarine"
has sold a million ex.
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-Is it your first trip to the South?
-No, we've been to Texas.
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-Where are you going?
- To Cincinnati.
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-How long do you stay in the United States?
- For two weeks.
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-What do you do for lunch?
- I don't think so much.
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- Now we have to.
-Thanks.
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They came out of the lodge and John said:
"We shouldn't have done that right."
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They had two lists, and now
they came back to a small club.
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But they promised to do another gig.
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There was only one tiny lodge.
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There we were, the Beatles and another
band there. They were not happy.
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John laughed. There was a piano
on stage with a big cover.
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John said: "King Size Taylor
has forgotten her raincoat. "
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The girls screamed like crazy
and the stream went
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except for a small light bulb
on the stage. - Do you remember?
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Everyone was wondering what was going on.
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Paul sat down at the piano
and started singing.
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John played on his acoustic guitar,
so it sounded a little close.
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We long thought it was one of them
Paul's dad's playing from the 1920s.
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It was so easy. But close
we got the "Sgt Pepper" record ...
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"When I get older ..."
We had heard that song in 1963!
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It doesn't matter if people don't like it
our records or what we say.
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They've been able to feel so, but then
we don't want anything to do with them.
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Everyone has rights, Harold.
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Towards the end it was pure madness.
They could be anywhere.
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They didn't know
whether they were in Wales or Tokyo.
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The "Revolver" songs
could not play live.
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They played just a little bit of "Rubber
soul "and nothing from" Revolver ".
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Apart from the rock music
They started playing more melodic songs.
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They needed hair
the details of the songs
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- but they heard nothing.
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I worked for the Yardbirds
when the Beatles came to New York.
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Brian was there,
but I just met the promoters.
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Brian just wanted 10000-15000
seating due to sound problems.
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They didn't want to
be surprised by screams.
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But the police said no. 100000 people
�nd� would show up.
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It was dangerous
to have so many outside.
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No one was greedy.
It was the police that determined.
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The gym was like a prison.
Only when they come to him do they escape.
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They flew around the world. People were screaming
so they didn't hear themselves.
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That's not how they wanted it.
It wasn't fun anymore.
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John told me about it
at a dinner in New York 1980.
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The changed words in "Twist and shout"
to "I'm pissed with gout".
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He thought it was fun,
and nobody heard what they were singing.
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At the very front sat
sm� children in wheelchairs.
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John panicked. He had
a phobia for physical disabilities.
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The poor kids
rolled into the lodge after the concert-
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... as if the Beatles knew whole people.
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And strange people used to
take the wheelchairs and roll in the children.
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It was horrible,
but they stood out with it.
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George said they were not developed.
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Before, they had developed through
to get feedback from the audience.
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Now they couldn't see the audience.
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In Candelstick Park, they stood in a cage.
It was a long way from The Cavern.
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We used appliances
that had volume, tone controls ...
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... and bass. There were three buttons!
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We had no computers
with flashing lights.
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The contract stated
that the promoter would provide
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-tv�, three microphones and lighting.
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Looks like "Eleanor Rigby" didn't
the audience was going.
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It could not dance to, and
the reviewers saw it as gloomy.
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Churches, women alone and dead
were not typical Beatles.
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The Beatles have long,
thanks to their popularity-
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- been able to say what they want -
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without thinking about it
should be dealt with or how wise it is.
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Wasn't he just being honest?
-He's very casual.
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His attitude is so bizarre
you don't know if he's honest.
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Has that noise affected the tower?
What do you think, Paul?
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It has made everything more hectic.
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The press conferences mean more.
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People have said
that we are less nonchalant now-
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- but the issues are more serious.
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It has not affected the ticket purchase.
Just as many have come.
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Besides the first gig
in Memphis, when it came a little earlier.
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Music industry in England
was amended 1966-1967.
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You started using the word "rock".
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1967 is the biggest event
was the Monterey Pop Festival.
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The pop festival played bands
which we now call rock stars.
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But the press started to use
the word "rock".
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They used the word for groups
who were not puppets-
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and who played their own music.
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They were against the establishment
and had a long hair.
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Stones were the first, and then
The Who went from pop to rock.
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- Thinking of playing the Beatles again?
- Capitol Records asked me that.
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Brian Epstein wanted to know
when we should lift the ban.
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They wanted to know what would be required
before we did.
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I said I didn't
have appreciated it.
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I want
that they should change my view of them.
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I want to see them mature a little bit,
I guess.
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Tommy Charles, who started the break
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doesn't play your discs
before you have matured.
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He wants to stop playing them.
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When people hear us things
they think we're childish.
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Only children suck.
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Has it developed into a witch hunt?
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What do you think of
that you have questions about Vietnam?
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If we make people think
that war is bad, it's good.
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It would be ridiculous if they didn't
close to Vietnam when we are in the US.
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- But why are they asking?
- Artists always ask questions like that.
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This is how it is in the UK, too.
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You can't keep quiet
world events if you are not a monk.
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For all the monks.
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They led the fight that was already underway:
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The revolution that made tones
to people.
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"Swinging London"
was a huge business.
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Everyone had
Long hair and beard and mustache.
229
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They visited the UFO Club, and Pink Floyd
keep up with psychedelic stuff.
230
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A new fashion emerged
and everything changed all the time.
231
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I was a model, and we had a shop.
232
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Sometimes I worked in the store.
Guys from other stores got there.
233
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We swap discs. Everything was about
music and how we looked.
234
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Paul was involved in a motorcycle accident
and injured a front tooth and left
235
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the day before they were going to film videos
to "Rain" and "Paperback writer".
236
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He started growing mustache
to hide his broken tooth.
237
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He didn't go to the dentist,
but he stopped chewing gum there.
238
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But then he grew mustache
to hide their war damage.
239
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The others liked it,
so they also cultivated mustache.
240
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The mustaches and everything ...
241
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Taking drugs
and see the world in a new way ...
242
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All musicians make ends up in the songs.
243
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It's about one's experiences.
244
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We smoked gray then, and that changes
how to look at the world.
245
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It breaks down walls.
246
00:23:58,003 --> 00:24:03,993
We were against the establishment
and we wanted to be creative.
247
00:24:04,033 --> 00:24:08,893
They wanted to get rid of it
its cute image.
248
00:24:08,933 --> 00:24:14,823
It was there
they created a more grown-up look.
249
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- Are the Beatles shattered?
-No.
250
00:24:18,953 --> 00:24:24,953
-Is there any truth in the rumor?
-No not at all.
251
00:24:24,992 --> 00:24:29,003
Why do they have
no tours booked next year?
252
00:24:29,042 --> 00:24:34,843
They've had other assumptions.
John Lennon has made a movie.
253
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Paul has written film music.
254
00:24:39,053 --> 00:24:46,843
They're back in the country
at the end of November.
255
00:24:46,882 --> 00:24:53,883
They should make more discs
and they are working on the next movie.
256
00:24:53,923 --> 00:24:58,833
Will they
to tour less next year?
257
00:24:58,872 --> 00:25:02,893
Maybe it. As I said...
258
00:25:02,933 --> 00:25:06,053
They make no major changes.
259
00:25:06,843 --> 00:25:11,022
But to develop
you have to make changes.
260
00:25:11,063 --> 00:25:16,953
The Beatles took on new things
very fast.
261
00:25:16,993 --> 00:25:21,023
That's how they were.
262
00:25:21,063 --> 00:25:26,913
They were ... With "Penny Lane"
and "Strawberry fields" ...
263
00:25:26,953 --> 00:25:31,923
They were no longer pseudo-Americans
and they do not sing in American.
264
00:25:31,963 --> 00:25:37,063
Paul's dad said, "Why do you sing
'yeah' and not 'yes'? "
265
00:25:37,853 --> 00:25:42,963
They used their own culture,
which is interesting.
266
00:25:43,003 --> 00:25:46,863
"Penny Lane" is a fantastic song.
267
00:25:46,903 --> 00:25:52,963
The tricky thing about "Sgt Pepper" is
that the two guys weren't there.
268
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It had been fantastic.
They should have added them later.
269
00:25:58,043 --> 00:26:02,873
They should have said:
"Here's a couple of previous songs."
270
00:26:02,913 --> 00:26:06,003
In "Penny Lane"
and "Strawberry fields" -
271
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- is partly Paul's picture of the 50s,
in a Liverpool they could well
272
00:26:13,053 --> 00:26:18,023
-and partly Johns
much more surreal image.
273
00:26:18,063 --> 00:26:21,013
But it seems like a real place.
274
00:26:21,053 --> 00:26:25,943
That's John's surreal picture of
a place when he was a kid.
275
00:26:25,983 --> 00:26:31,052
When they stopped touring
they could control themselves.
276
00:26:31,843 --> 00:26:38,993
They did their own thing and
they started ignoring Brian Epstein.
277
00:26:39,033 --> 00:26:43,913
They did too
drive with George Martin.
278
00:26:43,953 --> 00:26:50,903
He came with his � views,
but they said, "We're doing another take."
279
00:26:50,943 --> 00:26:56,893
Brian could feel himself outside. He did
not so much when they toured.
280
00:26:56,933 --> 00:27:01,893
He just traveled with them,
before everything is shot by local promoters.
281
00:27:01,933 --> 00:27:05,843
But Brian felt part of it.
282
00:27:05,883 --> 00:27:09,883
He never knew
participating in the studio.
283
00:27:09,923 --> 00:27:13,933
He never had
helped with the songs.
284
00:27:13,973 --> 00:27:19,043
He knew himself outside,
and it tore at him.
285
00:27:19,833 --> 00:27:22,953
He took more drugs and played more.
286
00:27:22,993 --> 00:27:29,013
He knew their relationship
had been cut off.
287
00:27:29,053 --> 00:27:32,973
Brian's role was changed.
288
00:27:33,013 --> 00:27:38,903
But he had always been
the fifth Beatles member.
289
00:27:38,943 --> 00:27:41,993
He took them
from Cavern out into the world.
290
00:27:42,033 --> 00:27:49,903
In the beginning of 1967 ... They made music
which was played at Roundhouse.
291
00:27:49,943 --> 00:27:54,943
It was just Mark Lewisohn
who heard it.
292
00:27:54,983 --> 00:28:01,852
They sat and drummed
on plates and tables
293
00:28:01,893 --> 00:28:05,933
and other things in the studio for seven minutes.
294
00:28:05,972 --> 00:28:10,973
The idea was that what they did,
the freer the better
295
00:28:11,013 --> 00:28:15,863
-was brilliant,
but so it wasn't always.
296
00:28:15,903 --> 00:28:21,833
What direction should the Beatles take now?
They had been a perfect pop group.
297
00:28:21,872 --> 00:28:27,993
They had written great songs
and topped the charts. What do you do then?
298
00:28:28,033 --> 00:28:33,893
Yes, you do great art.
You have to come up a level.
299
00:28:33,933 --> 00:28:40,873
"We can make pop that is great art,
like great music and great paintings. "
300
00:28:40,913 --> 00:28:46,993
That's probably what they thought.
They didn't want to make more pop songs.
301
00:28:47,033 --> 00:28:51,033
They wanted to do something amazing,
and so it became.
302
00:28:51,823 --> 00:28:54,963
"Strawberry fields" made me hopeful.
303
00:28:55,002 --> 00:29:00,043
I had told my editor
that the Beatles were still developing.
304
00:29:00,832 --> 00:29:05,063
It was incredible,
and far from "Love me do".
305
00:29:05,853 --> 00:29:10,043
Nobody knows if "Penny Lane" should
�vertr�ffa "Strawberry fields".
306
00:29:10,833 --> 00:29:15,913
But John had done
a bit about Liverpool, and Paul ...
307
00:29:15,953 --> 00:29:21,843
John and Paul were talking to each other
and drove on each other.
308
00:29:21,882 --> 00:29:27,922
They thought in a friendly way:
"I'll take the next A-side."
309
00:29:27,963 --> 00:29:33,043
It was amazing.
They tried to get each other out.
310
00:29:33,833 --> 00:29:36,993
They would make a record about Liverpool.
311
00:29:37,033 --> 00:29:44,893
They talked about making an album
which was about Liverpool.
312
00:29:44,933 --> 00:29:51,933
They had "Penny Lane," "Strawberry
fields "and" A day in the life ".
313
00:29:51,973 --> 00:29:57,953
Then George Martin said:
"You've been silent for a long time."
314
00:29:57,993 --> 00:30:01,903
But it became a double a-side.
315
00:30:01,942 --> 00:30:07,923
The sales figures were broken down,
so they only got two on the lists.
316
00:30:07,963 --> 00:30:12,043
In Liverpool found
the group The Hillsiders.
317
00:30:12,833 --> 00:30:17,003
Their manager, Spencer Lloyd Mason,
was told that the band had found-
318
00:30:17,043 --> 00:30:21,013
-a country record,
that they wanted to record.
319
00:30:21,053 --> 00:30:27,823
They took it to Noel Walker on Decca,
who also came from Merseyside
320
00:30:27,862 --> 00:30:32,903
and said, "We want to do it right here."
It was called "Release me".
321
00:30:32,942 --> 00:30:40,053
In the chair of The Hillsiders
Engelbert Humperdinck got it.
322
00:30:40,843 --> 00:30:46,992
It became one on the list,
and poked down the Beatles.
323
00:30:47,033 --> 00:30:49,003
That was the Liverpool group's fault.
324
00:30:49,043 --> 00:30:52,053
An Liverpool-themed album ...
325
00:30:52,843 --> 00:30:57,853
"Strawberry Fields" and "Penny Lane"
reaches for more than one disc.
326
00:30:57,893 --> 00:31:02,923
But they released them like a magnificent one
single with double a-side.
327
00:31:05,033 --> 00:31:07,973
- Can I talk to you?
-Certainly.
328
00:31:08,013 --> 00:31:13,942
- Are the Beatles shattered in 1967?
- Maybe we do other things.
329
00:31:13,983 --> 00:31:16,843
But we're always together.
330
00:31:16,883 --> 00:31:20,843
Will you stop working together?
331
00:31:20,883 --> 00:31:25,013
Maybe for a while,
but we will always be seen.
332
00:31:25,053 --> 00:31:31,833
Other impressions are also needed.
But we enjoy it together.
333
00:31:31,873 --> 00:31:36,903
- Are you going to make a movie next year?
-No, I should not change profession.
334
00:31:36,943 --> 00:31:42,943
I did the movie
before Dick Lester asked me.
335
00:31:42,983 --> 00:31:47,933
But I hadn't
if the others had not consented.
336
00:31:47,973 --> 00:31:53,923
- Do the other guys want to make a movie?
-No, nobody is particularly interested.
337
00:31:53,963 --> 00:31:58,013
- What do you want to do?
- A little different stuff.
338
00:31:58,052 --> 00:32:02,973
-But you don't know exactly what?
-I'll try different things.
339
00:32:03,013 --> 00:32:07,003
But now I know more about film.
340
00:32:07,043 --> 00:32:10,993
But you keep writing songs?
341
00:32:11,033 --> 00:32:16,873
Yes, we will
to write music together forever.
342
00:32:16,913 --> 00:32:20,923
It can't stop.
343
00:32:20,963 --> 00:32:24,873
But the tours in the US and England ...
344
00:32:24,913 --> 00:32:29,052
You come to a point
when it no longer works.
345
00:32:29,843 --> 00:32:32,983
It doesn't fit with our discs.
346
00:32:33,023 --> 00:32:40,043
They took great risks in 1966 and 1967. They
did not know if people would hang out.
347
00:32:40,833 --> 00:32:45,923
They expected to lose
a large part of their market.
348
00:33:10,942 --> 00:33:15,993
Then they decided
to make a concept album.
349
00:33:16,033 --> 00:33:21,903
McCartney wanted it to be
like Frank Zappa's "Freak Out".
350
00:33:21,943 --> 00:33:29,882
But as Ringo has said, they dropped
that idea and made more songs.
351
00:33:29,923 --> 00:33:33,923
The album ties together
in a weird way.
352
00:33:33,963 --> 00:33:39,963
The Beatles were adventurous,
but at the same time sentimental.
353
00:33:40,003 --> 00:33:46,863
There are many different threads,
and John keeps it together.
354
00:33:46,903 --> 00:33:51,953
There is his wonderful masterpiece
"A day in the life".
355
00:33:51,993 --> 00:33:59,883
He also contributes with small sound clips,
as in Paul's "Lovely Rita."
356
00:33:59,922 --> 00:34:05,903
So it looks like a concept album,
though that was not the idea.
357
00:34:05,943 --> 00:34:09,873
-Paul! Good evening.
-Hello.
358
00:34:09,913 --> 00:34:16,992
-Would you miss touring?
-No I do not think so.
359
00:34:17,033 --> 00:34:22,943
The thing is that when we act ...
360
00:34:22,983 --> 00:34:27,973
We cannot develop
when no one can hear us.
361
00:34:28,013 --> 00:34:32,063
It's hard for us to act.
362
00:34:32,853 --> 00:34:36,853
- You don't want to do that?
-Yes.
363
00:34:36,893 --> 00:34:43,913
But if we can't even hear
We ourselves cannot be better.
364
00:34:43,953 --> 00:34:46,933
So we record songs in the room.
365
00:34:46,973 --> 00:34:50,872
It took a lot of time and money.
366
00:34:50,913 --> 00:34:55,843
It wasn't just "Sgt Pepper",
but...
367
00:34:55,882 --> 00:35:02,963
They changed the market, the single
Previously, it had been important.
368
00:35:03,003 --> 00:35:08,012
Then the album contained that song
and some other songs
369
00:35:08,053 --> 00:35:11,023
-and the album bore the single's name.
370
00:35:11,063 --> 00:35:18,922
But then the band started
focus on the albums.
371
00:35:18,963 --> 00:35:22,043
Then the single came off the album.
372
00:35:22,832 --> 00:35:25,043
Merry Christmas!
373
00:35:25,833 --> 00:35:29,983
Before I ask any questions?
I like you here.
374
00:35:30,023 --> 00:35:33,023
-You're stylish.
-I have bathed.
375
00:35:33,063 --> 00:35:37,873
The Beatles are going to do some good things together
next year?
376
00:35:37,912 --> 00:35:42,922
We should not ...
If we do things together, we four-
377
00:35:42,963 --> 00:35:49,823
-it will just be the same things again.
We don't want to do that.
378
00:35:49,863 --> 00:35:55,943
Because of the movie ...
We can't get a good script.
379
00:35:55,983 --> 00:36:00,843
If we don't get it
we still do things on our own.
380
00:36:00,883 --> 00:36:05,063
But we should not split.
We'll crash again later.
381
00:36:05,853 --> 00:36:08,883
Thanks. Are you going to work now?
382
00:36:08,923 --> 00:36:13,843
We'll see.
If I'm lucky it'll be tea.
383
00:36:13,883 --> 00:36:17,893
Paul wanted to create a new band.
384
00:36:17,933 --> 00:36:22,993
They wanted to play together,
but not like the Beatles.
385
00:36:24,843 --> 00:36:27,863
Can I exchange a few words with you?
386
00:36:27,903 --> 00:36:33,023
Do you think the band will come
to be split next year?
387
00:36:33,063 --> 00:36:36,883
No, definitely not.
388
00:36:36,923 --> 00:36:41,043
- Can I take a few more words with you?
-There are already more words.
389
00:36:41,832 --> 00:36:43,993
They were tired of being Beatles.
390
00:36:44,032 --> 00:36:50,913
They weren't tired of the group,
but on the name.
391
00:36:50,953 --> 00:36:55,913
They wanted to create
an alter ego - Sgt. Pepper.
392
00:36:55,953 --> 00:37:01,053
They used military suits,
which was fashion in the 60's.
393
00:37:01,843 --> 00:37:07,053
But there is a picture
by Paul's dad, Jim McCartney-
394
00:37:07,843 --> 00:37:14,833
- who played in Jim Mac's Jazz Band
in the 20s and 30s in Liverpool.
395
00:37:14,873 --> 00:37:20,833
There is a picture of them
from the late 20s.
396
00:37:20,873 --> 00:37:26,883
It looked like the Sgt Pepper concept,
but without marijuana.
397
00:37:26,923 --> 00:37:32,963
They became more advanced
something that has almost become a joke:
398
00:37:33,003 --> 00:37:37,862
How long can you lie
on a project?
399
00:37:37,903 --> 00:37:41,853
The Beatles recorded "Sgt. Pepper".
400
00:37:41,893 --> 00:37:46,883
Everyone says:
"It must have been exciting!"
401
00:37:46,922 --> 00:37:51,993
But it was incredible.
402
00:37:52,033 --> 00:37:57,893
We were used to recording a record
at most one week.
403
00:37:57,933 --> 00:38:03,873
"Revolver" took a couple of weeks,
but "Sgt. Pepper" pulled out at the time.
404
00:38:03,913 --> 00:38:10,063
They had not written the record together.
The only one prepared was Paul.
405
00:38:10,852 --> 00:38:16,013
When they were in the studio
no women were allowed in.
406
00:38:16,053 --> 00:38:22,063
Even when they were touring
only the guys did.
407
00:38:22,853 --> 00:38:28,003
It was just Chris O'Dell
who asked if she could join.
408
00:38:28,043 --> 00:38:32,923
None of us
even dreamed of it.
409
00:38:32,963 --> 00:38:36,842
The tapes got more recording time.
410
00:38:36,883 --> 00:38:42,033
It's paid for by the band's advance,
so the record companies don't care.
411
00:38:42,823 --> 00:38:47,903
But if the record does not become a hit
it costs the record companies money.
412
00:38:47,943 --> 00:38:52,903
But when the bands become successful
they pay themselves for it.
413
00:38:52,943 --> 00:38:57,033
But the gang believes
that the record companies pay.
414
00:38:57,823 --> 00:39:01,903
They got money over
to buy drugs
415
00:39:01,942 --> 00:39:07,912
-and that made the recordings
took longer.
416
00:39:07,953 --> 00:39:14,893
Paul agreed. George and John
decided over their songs.
417
00:39:14,933 --> 00:39:17,963
But Paul decided most of it.
418
00:39:18,002 --> 00:39:23,043
They made dozens of shots
of the same things-
419
00:39:23,833 --> 00:39:29,032
- though the first shot was always
jttebra. I just wanted to go home.
420
00:39:29,823 --> 00:39:34,042
They got the sound techniques
to do amazing things.
421
00:39:34,833 --> 00:39:36,893
Nobody had done this before.
422
00:39:36,933 --> 00:39:41,913
That was Abbey Road
very good for them.
423
00:39:41,953 --> 00:39:45,943
They were full of enthusiasm and ideas.
424
00:39:45,982 --> 00:39:49,973
The twenty-year-olds tend to be
the best time in your life.
425
00:39:50,013 --> 00:39:55,823
They could do whatever they wanted
and see how they wanted it.
426
00:39:55,863 --> 00:40:02,912
Previously, they had used the side entrance,
but now they took the big entrance.
427
00:40:02,953 --> 00:40:08,833
The Beatles started a lot
which we take for granted now.
428
00:40:08,873 --> 00:40:13,822
U2 often takes one year with them
a disc. The Beatles were the first to do so.
429
00:40:13,863 --> 00:40:20,043
They made ambitious albums,
which was nothing more than just a pop album.
430
00:40:20,833 --> 00:40:24,883
It wasn't just dance music.
431
00:40:24,923 --> 00:40:29,953
John was a genius.
There is no doubt about that.
432
00:40:29,993 --> 00:40:33,063
How many geniuses there are
in a band?
433
00:40:33,853 --> 00:40:39,913
But without Paul had not
John �stood just as much.
434
00:40:39,952 --> 00:40:44,923
They were a dream team.
Paul lost his mother early.
435
00:40:44,962 --> 00:40:51,933
He was with us often.
Mom said, "Poor boy."
436
00:40:51,973 --> 00:40:56,863
And then when our mom died,
437
00:40:56,903 --> 00:41:02,843
created it
a strong bond between them.
438
00:41:02,883 --> 00:41:07,053
That was the deal
the basis for the Beatles.
439
00:41:07,843 --> 00:41:10,943
John had a reputation for himself.
440
00:41:10,983 --> 00:41:14,943
People were drawn to him.
He had a sense of humor
441
00:41:14,983 --> 00:41:21,833
and he was rebellious
and did not care about things.
442
00:41:21,873 --> 00:41:28,853
Paul was very polite.
People are always drawn to the rebel.
443
00:41:28,893 --> 00:41:31,993
So I felt when I met him.
444
00:41:32,033 --> 00:41:36,043
Paul explored the avant-garde.
445
00:41:36,833 --> 00:41:39,953
No idea was too messy.
446
00:41:39,993 --> 00:41:45,853
He read a lot, looked at art
and listened to jazz.
447
00:41:45,893 --> 00:41:50,003
It made him develop.
448
00:41:50,043 --> 00:41:57,053
John read and wrote, but he did
was mostly at home with his family.
449
00:41:57,843 --> 00:42:02,983
Paul explored London, avant-garde
and the underground world.
450
00:42:03,023 --> 00:42:09,883
John liked it,
but he did not explore it himself.
451
00:42:09,923 --> 00:42:15,933
But in November, he met Yoko Ono
at one of her exhibitions.
452
00:42:15,973 --> 00:42:18,823
We know how it went then.
453
00:42:18,863 --> 00:42:24,003
A myth, still
before Paul McCartney was called
454
00:42:24,043 --> 00:42:27,023
-that John was drawn to the avant-garde-
455
00:42:27,063 --> 00:42:32,823
-and Paul was
cozy, safe and traditional.
456
00:42:32,863 --> 00:42:36,843
It didn't work.
As Tony Bramwell said:
457
00:42:36,882 --> 00:42:40,963
"John lazy at home in the suburb."
458
00:42:41,002 --> 00:42:45,843
Paul lived in the middle of London
and always wanted to get away.
459
00:42:45,883 --> 00:42:49,843
He read about modern art
when he was twelve.
460
00:42:49,883 --> 00:42:52,973
He liked the avant-garde.
461
00:42:53,013 --> 00:42:58,983
It was about
difficult and modern music.
462
00:42:59,023 --> 00:43:02,853
It was John Cage and Luciano Berio.
463
00:43:02,893 --> 00:43:06,873
He knew everything.
Paul was the leader.
464
00:43:06,913 --> 00:43:13,873
Indica Gallery had a book deal,
where Paul bought everything new that came in.
465
00:43:13,913 --> 00:43:21,063
Paul told John about "Turn off
your mind and float downstream ”.
466
00:43:21,853 --> 00:43:28,042
Then John wrote "Tomorrow never
knows "and looks like an avant-garde.
467
00:43:28,833 --> 00:43:32,013
They were more involved
in modern art
468
00:43:32,053 --> 00:43:37,943
- modern classical music and
modern fashion creators and they showed.
469
00:43:37,983 --> 00:43:45,893
They had gone to grammar school
and John had gone to art school.
470
00:43:45,933 --> 00:43:51,972
Unlike others
rock stars that I should not mention-
471
00:43:52,013 --> 00:43:55,963
... who could barely read and write.
472
00:43:56,003 --> 00:43:59,893
Ringo never went to school
473
00:43:59,932 --> 00:44:07,063
- but the others had read
Shakespeare, novels and poetry.
474
00:44:07,853 --> 00:44:12,843
John and George lived out in the country.
475
00:44:12,883 --> 00:44:16,853
Paul lived in the middle of London.
476
00:44:16,893 --> 00:44:19,963
They didn't meet that much anymore.
477
00:44:20,003 --> 00:44:24,892
Until 1966, they were always around.
478
00:44:24,933 --> 00:44:31,023
They were like a four-headed monster.
You never saw them without each other.
479
00:44:31,063 --> 00:44:35,033
Paul was more musical.
He taught John a lot.
480
00:44:35,823 --> 00:44:39,843
It was more nuanced.
481
00:44:39,883 --> 00:44:45,883
The idea that Paul was
a traditional guy
482
00:44:45,923 --> 00:44:51,823
- was partially true,
but he was also extremely gifted.
483
00:44:51,863 --> 00:44:55,053
There has been much talk about-
484
00:44:55,843 --> 00:45:00,063
- another kind of music,
which came from the "Revolver".
485
00:45:00,853 --> 00:45:06,823
It was incredibly large
Expectations on "Sgt. Pepper".
486
00:45:06,863 --> 00:45:12,843
They spent a lot of time in the studio,
and the press reported on.
487
00:45:12,883 --> 00:45:16,023
The band put a lot of money into it.
488
00:45:16,063 --> 00:45:19,883
It was
four geniuses and George Martin.
489
00:45:19,923 --> 00:45:25,023
One thought
it must be incredible.
490
00:45:31,853 --> 00:45:38,043
At that time when it was released ...
People don't realize how difficult it was.
491
00:45:38,832 --> 00:45:44,913
It was four-channel recording,
which was very difficult.
492
00:45:44,953 --> 00:45:48,873
Now, ahead of time, much more can be done.
493
00:45:48,913 --> 00:45:54,003
But that's the album
became �nd� magical.
494
00:45:54,043 --> 00:45:57,843
They had the lyrics on the cover.
495
00:45:57,883 --> 00:46:04,063
When it was all previous albums
we grumbled about the lyrics.
496
00:46:04,853 --> 00:46:11,823
We all knew what the Beatles were singing,
for the singing of the Liverpool dialect.
497
00:46:11,863 --> 00:46:18,052
When I worked on Stafford Street
George comes in and day.
498
00:46:18,843 --> 00:46:24,982
He said, "Can you print
do they hear the lyrics? They're so bad. "
499
00:46:25,023 --> 00:46:31,823
"I sit here and light them up
so you can print them. "
500
00:46:31,863 --> 00:46:38,063
Every time he finished with a text
he handed me the paper.
501
00:46:38,853 --> 00:46:41,063
And I threw it.
502
00:46:41,853 --> 00:46:48,893
All lyrics for "Sgt. Pepper"
ended up in the garbage.
503
00:46:48,933 --> 00:46:55,883
EMI was shocked
how much the cover would cost.
504
00:46:55,923 --> 00:47:00,053
Then the Beatles would
bring the lyrics.
505
00:47:00,843 --> 00:47:05,913
But the band was carrying rice on their own backs
before when people could read the lyrics
506
00:47:05,953 --> 00:47:09,933
- broke the hell out
when people would interpret the texts.
507
00:47:09,973 --> 00:47:15,823
People found meaning
when there probably weren't any.
508
00:47:15,862 --> 00:47:21,863
A group called The Fool
had made a psychedelic design.
509
00:47:21,902 --> 00:47:26,873
Robert Fraser,
who owned an art gallery
510
00:47:26,912 --> 00:47:30,833
-sa: "It looks too dated."
511
00:47:30,873 --> 00:47:34,893
In the chair, they decided
another concept.
512
00:47:34,933 --> 00:47:41,063
Paul said, "We're writing
a list of all our heroes. "
513
00:47:41,853 --> 00:47:46,883
"Everyone we admire
should be on the album. "
514
00:47:46,923 --> 00:47:52,873
Brian Epstein was killed
when he heard it.
515
00:47:52,913 --> 00:47:56,863
He thought:
"It's the Beatles that are the most important thing."
516
00:47:56,903 --> 00:48:01,913
He would fly to London, but he did
thought he would die on the planet
517
00:48:01,953 --> 00:48:05,963
- so he left a message
to Nat Reese's lawyer:
518
00:48:06,003 --> 00:48:10,963
"Sgt. Pepper" record
should have brown wrapping paper. "
519
00:48:11,002 --> 00:48:18,002
People were expecting
that the Beatles would be at the forefront.
520
00:48:18,043 --> 00:48:20,983
First of all, it was military robes
521
00:48:21,022 --> 00:48:25,993
as they had with "Sgt. Pepper",
and then came the hippie time.
522
00:48:26,032 --> 00:48:31,923
John Lennon wanted to come along
Jesus and Hitler.
523
00:48:31,963 --> 00:48:35,843
Hitler is there, but behind nothing.
524
00:48:35,883 --> 00:48:42,833
Near Sir Joseph Lockwood from EMI
so Gandhi's image was confirmed.
525
00:48:42,873 --> 00:48:46,052
"Think of the sale in India!"
So it had to be removed.
526
00:48:46,843 --> 00:48:49,983
Peter Blake got hold of
527
00:48:50,023 --> 00:48:54,823
- nine wax figures from Madame Tussauds.
528
00:48:54,863 --> 00:48:58,952
It was the Beatles, Sonny Liston,
Diana Dors ... They are here.
529
00:48:58,993 --> 00:49:05,063
I said, "You have
movie stars and musicians. "
530
00:49:05,853 --> 00:49:12,013
"Why not a football player?"
But they didn't like football.
531
00:49:12,053 --> 00:49:17,933
They never had
went to some football games-
532
00:49:17,973 --> 00:49:21,863
before they just played music.
533
00:49:21,903 --> 00:49:25,012
Paul has said
that the family cheered on Everton ...
534
00:49:25,053 --> 00:49:32,023
- but he never mentioned it,
and not his dad either.
535
00:49:32,063 --> 00:49:38,953
But they brought �nd�
a soccer player.
536
00:49:38,992 --> 00:49:43,973
John chose Albert Stubbins,
because he had a funny name.
537
00:49:44,013 --> 00:49:47,943
One year later
Ravi Shankar had been there.
538
00:49:47,982 --> 00:49:55,013
Many of them were Americans.
At that time there was no email.
539
00:49:55,052 --> 00:49:58,923
We had to write and ask for permission.
540
00:49:58,962 --> 00:50:03,033
If they were dead
the state of the families was needed.
541
00:50:03,823 --> 00:50:11,003
I had a very thick folder
by letter saying "Sgt. Pepper".
542
00:50:11,953 --> 00:50:15,892
Here is a gypsy car-
543
00:50:15,933 --> 00:50:23,032
... which is a gift to four-year-olds
Julian, son of John Lennon.
544
00:50:23,823 --> 00:50:29,853
The wagon painted the wagon
has cost 4000 pounds.
545
00:50:29,892 --> 00:50:35,022
The required police card.
Fathers buy so expensive gifts.
546
00:50:35,063 --> 00:50:39,013
Here, money can buy love.
547
00:50:39,053 --> 00:50:45,833
If he leaves his home, he will be
the most well-equipped gypsy on the road.
548
00:50:47,903 --> 00:50:51,873
I visited
my friends on King's Road.
549
00:50:51,913 --> 00:50:55,952
We sat around the table
and listened to music.
550
00:50:55,993 --> 00:50:59,903
We smoked grass and nobody said that much.
551
00:50:59,943 --> 00:51:05,883
There were interesting books
about spirituality on the table.
552
00:51:05,923 --> 00:51:12,873
One of them was "Karma and rebirth"
by Christmas Humpreys.
553
00:51:12,913 --> 00:51:19,933
It said, "Life goes on within you
and without you. "
554
00:51:19,973 --> 00:51:25,023
I called Patti and George,
and George answered.
555
00:51:25,063 --> 00:51:29,883
I said, "Life is going on within you
and without you. "
556
00:51:29,923 --> 00:51:33,913
Clock it came
"Within you without you".
557
00:51:33,953 --> 00:51:37,833
George Martin said many years later:
558
00:51:37,873 --> 00:51:41,833
"It lies first on the side two" -
559
00:51:41,873 --> 00:51:48,993
- "so people can go directly to
the other song and not play it. "
560
00:51:49,032 --> 00:51:54,023
Bringing seats
in rock or psychedelic music ...
561
00:51:54,063 --> 00:51:58,873
It was used a lot on "Sgt. Pepper".
562
00:51:58,913 --> 00:52:02,873
Elvis and Little Richard
had done that-
563
00:52:02,913 --> 00:52:08,923
- but you had never thought that
a modern band would use it.
564
00:52:08,963 --> 00:52:14,062
Paul said when he was growing up
the cover covers were important.
565
00:52:14,853 --> 00:52:18,003
The colors and even the scent ...
566
00:52:18,042 --> 00:52:24,913
He was aware
the tactile and visual
567
00:52:24,953 --> 00:52:29,843
-and even the printer's logo.
568
00:52:29,883 --> 00:52:35,023
He wanted to come along
nice illustrations and extras.
569
00:52:35,063 --> 00:52:40,063
The Fool had designed
The inner core.
570
00:52:40,853 --> 00:52:44,023
It was overwhelming.
571
00:52:44,063 --> 00:52:47,933
They stood in Sgt. Pepper clothes.
572
00:52:47,973 --> 00:52:53,883
Then you could cut a mustache
from the cover.
573
00:52:53,923 --> 00:52:56,883
You could cut out Sgt. Pepper.
574
00:52:56,923 --> 00:53:01,863
The dilemma was ...
I left everything as it was.
575
00:53:01,903 --> 00:53:07,993
I hadn't made much progress
with a cardboard mustache.
576
00:53:08,032 --> 00:53:13,833
I have the disc left
just as it came.
577
00:53:13,873 --> 00:53:18,063
But there you could
do more with the cover.
578
00:53:18,853 --> 00:53:22,023
That was Paul's id�.
He drew sketches.
579
00:53:22,063 --> 00:53:28,013
They discussed the title
and what the cover would look like.
580
00:53:28,053 --> 00:53:34,923
One evening they would take a picture.
I jumped into his Mini-Minor.
581
00:53:34,963 --> 00:53:40,863
We were going to Michael Cooper's studio
on Flood Street.
582
00:53:40,903 --> 00:53:47,923
When we left Paul's house
He said, "We need decorations."
583
00:53:47,963 --> 00:53:52,043
I had seen drawings.
They hadn't decided.
584
00:53:52,833 --> 00:53:57,883
They had tried a lot of different clothes.
585
00:53:57,923 --> 00:54:02,863
He said, "Take something with you
to pose in the front of the picture. "
586
00:54:02,903 --> 00:54:08,913
I took a figurine from his
praise. I didn't know what it was.
587
00:54:08,953 --> 00:54:15,042
It looked like a spaceship. They had
got each one a few years earlier.
588
00:54:15,833 --> 00:54:19,953
John had given his fuck up.
589
00:54:19,993 --> 00:54:22,943
Pauls stood beside his Magritte.
590
00:54:22,983 --> 00:54:30,003
He had bought the tablet with apple, like
then used to the company.
591
00:54:30,043 --> 00:54:37,823
Linda had bought Magritte's palette
and easel to him.
592
00:54:37,863 --> 00:54:40,953
But he was not allowed to bring Magritte-
593
00:54:40,993 --> 00:54:46,033
- For Robert Fraser,
who was his agent.
594
00:54:46,823 --> 00:54:53,863
It was a disaster.
It was a wonderful concept-
595
00:54:53,903 --> 00:55:00,013
to bring their hearts,
but they were not allowed to bring everyone.
596
00:55:00,053 --> 00:55:07,863
So it's not
the "Sgt. Pepper" cover.
597
00:55:07,903 --> 00:55:13,882
They thought, "Who did they leave?
Why are they with these tall people? "
598
00:55:13,923 --> 00:55:17,913
It was all the great things of the time.
599
00:55:17,953 --> 00:55:23,913
You did not know
if they saw them as helper.
600
00:55:23,953 --> 00:55:28,943
There was a feeling of irony.
601
00:55:28,983 --> 00:55:32,843
I thought, "It's a shame."
602
00:55:32,883 --> 00:55:38,863
They hear the people
takes a bigger place in itself.
603
00:55:38,903 --> 00:55:42,962
The album inspired, of course
Rolling Stones.
604
00:55:43,003 --> 00:55:46,823
EMI thought they were scarce.
605
00:55:46,863 --> 00:55:52,923
Why go when you go?
would release a new record soon?
606
00:55:52,963 --> 00:55:55,843
They didn't take the thing.
607
00:55:55,883 --> 00:56:02,923
The Beatles had high ambitions,
great talent and a great ego.
608
00:56:02,963 --> 00:56:05,833
They knew it would be good.
609
00:56:05,873 --> 00:56:09,033
They have medals.
610
00:56:09,823 --> 00:56:14,883
Pete Best's dad was
boxing promoter in Liverpool.
611
00:56:14,922 --> 00:56:21,983
He had a trophy,
as he had been in Liverpool.
612
00:56:22,023 --> 00:56:26,823
Neil Aspinall brought it.
613
00:56:26,863 --> 00:56:34,823
My mother's family came from England,
but they lived in India.
614
00:56:34,863 --> 00:56:41,923
My grandfather was a major and a lancer.
615
00:56:41,963 --> 00:56:46,873
She was proud of her father's medals.
616
00:56:46,913 --> 00:56:53,003
On several occasions she had
showcased the medals for all four.
617
00:56:53,042 --> 00:56:57,943
1967, when they collected material
to "Sgt. Pepper" -
618
00:56:57,982 --> 00:57:02,003
- John remembered the medals.
619
00:57:02,043 --> 00:57:08,913
He said, "They would fit in very well.
Ask Mona if I can borrow them. "
620
00:57:08,953 --> 00:57:16,863
She said to Neil: "Bring them,
but I want them back. "
621
00:57:16,903 --> 00:57:20,063
S� Neil brought them to London.
622
00:57:20,853 --> 00:57:27,903
John decided he was
wanted medals from that collection.
623
00:57:27,943 --> 00:57:31,033
That's why they're on the cover.
624
00:57:31,823 --> 00:57:36,903
The nice thing was he kept his word.
625
00:57:36,942 --> 00:57:43,933
He returned the medals
to Mona, by Neil.
626
00:57:43,973 --> 00:57:47,983
S� became the family
involved in "Sgt. Pepper".
627
00:57:48,023 --> 00:57:51,973
The album was
a big seller all over the world.
628
00:57:52,013 --> 00:57:56,913
And that's where the medals come with.
629
00:57:56,953 --> 00:58:00,013
But no one knew about it.
630
00:58:00,052 --> 00:58:03,923
I was friends with Chas and Jimi.
631
00:58:03,962 --> 00:58:07,843
I had a mastering of "Sgt Pepper".
632
00:58:07,883 --> 00:58:11,863
Chas played it before Jimi.
633
00:58:11,903 --> 00:58:17,933
Jimi liked the sound
and repeated it.
634
00:58:17,973 --> 00:58:24,003
I heard him play Sunday
after the disc was released
635
00:58:24,043 --> 00:58:26,963
And he played the song.
636
00:58:27,002 --> 00:58:30,993
McCartney took it as a compliment.
637
00:58:31,033 --> 00:58:36,963
It was a star
who played hard rock.
638
00:58:37,003 --> 00:58:41,043
He liked
when others played his songs.
639
00:58:41,833 --> 00:58:45,903
"Sgt. Pepper" was released
on June 1, 1967.
640
00:58:45,943 --> 00:58:52,853
The absence was huge.
We had been waiting a long time.
641
00:58:52,893 --> 00:58:55,953
Then it was played all over King's Road.
642
00:58:55,993 --> 00:59:01,923
It was played
in all stores and stores.
643
00:59:01,963 --> 00:59:05,853
The cover was a big deal.
644
00:59:05,892 --> 00:59:11,043
It showed
that it was something special.
645
00:59:11,833 --> 00:59:16,933
We did a little movie
to "Strawberry fields" -
646
00:59:16,973 --> 00:59:23,863
-in Sevenoaks in Kent.
We stayed at Bright's Hotel.
647
00:59:23,903 --> 00:59:27,823
Next to it was an antique shop.
648
00:59:27,863 --> 00:59:33,913
The poster hung on the wall.
It cost a pound.
649
00:59:35,833 --> 00:59:40,973
It said: "For the benefit of
Mr. Kite, "and all the artists stood by.
650
00:59:41,013 --> 00:59:46,033
Pablo Fanque
and the dancing horse and such.
651
00:59:46,823 --> 00:59:52,823
He framed it and hung it up
at home in Weybridge.
652
00:59:52,862 --> 00:59:59,862
Then he wrote the song
according to the poster.
653
00:59:59,903 --> 01:00:05,993
He made poetry of it.
Then George Martin added
654
01:00:06,033 --> 01:00:11,853
- all the fiddle sounds.
It's a masterpiece.
655
01:00:11,893 --> 01:00:16,893
He got inspiration from other places
to "Sgt. Pepper".
656
01:00:16,933 --> 01:00:21,033
As from the Tara Browne article,
as though in a car crash.
657
01:00:21,823 --> 01:00:25,922
Paul got the idea
"She's leaving home" from an article-
658
01:00:25,963 --> 01:00:29,832
-like a girl who was drinking with a man.
659
01:00:29,873 --> 01:00:34,853
After Paul's song, everyone believed
that it was Terry Doran.
660
01:00:34,893 --> 01:00:39,043
But Paul said it wasn't.
Terry was a friend to them.
661
01:00:39,833 --> 01:00:44,913
Chertsey!
Listen to John Lennon's Rolls-Royce.
662
01:00:44,953 --> 01:00:48,043
It is public.
663
01:00:48,833 --> 01:00:53,883
It's a 1965 Phantom,
which is worth 6,000 pounds.
664
01:00:53,923 --> 01:01:00,023
The supercar has been sniffed
to fit a Beatles member.
665
01:01:01,953 --> 01:01:07,832
Paul talked about LSD
with a reporter from Life Magazine.
666
01:01:07,873 --> 01:01:11,863
Then it was about that in the Daily Mirror.
667
01:01:11,903 --> 01:01:17,043
Then the news media and television jumped
p�t�get.
668
01:01:17,833 --> 01:01:21,943
John and George were
the first to take the LSD
669
01:01:21,983 --> 01:01:26,953
-but Paul, who started it late,
said: "I have taken LSD."
670
01:01:26,993 --> 01:01:32,023
They thought it was unjust,
before they had been first.
671
01:01:32,063 --> 01:01:38,933
-How many times have you taken LSD?
- Approximately four times.
672
01:01:38,973 --> 01:01:43,023
- Where did you get it?
- If I were to say that ...
673
01:01:43,063 --> 01:01:47,052
They are illegal,
so I don't want to say it.
674
01:01:47,843 --> 01:01:51,953
Should you have kept it to yourself?
675
01:01:51,992 --> 01:01:56,993
I got the question
by a newspaper reporter.
676
01:01:57,033 --> 01:02:04,873
I could lie or tell the truth.
677
01:02:04,913 --> 01:02:10,923
I told the truth,
but I hadn't wanted to say anything.
678
01:02:10,963 --> 01:02:15,992
If I had decided
I hadn't said anything to anyone.
679
01:02:16,033 --> 01:02:19,003
I don't want to spread it.
680
01:02:19,043 --> 01:02:23,062
But he's from the newspaper
come from the media.
681
01:02:23,853 --> 01:02:28,962
I keep it to myself
if he keeps quiet.
682
01:02:29,003 --> 01:02:34,023
The responsibility lies with him,
not on me.
683
01:02:35,033 --> 01:02:41,013
But you must have known
that it would end up in the newspaper.
684
01:02:41,053 --> 01:02:48,973
Yes, but I was just telling the truth.
Why is everyone so angry?
685
01:02:49,013 --> 01:02:52,883
Have you encouraged your fans
to take drugs?
686
01:02:52,923 --> 01:02:58,053
My fans will not take drugs
just because I'm doing it.
687
01:02:58,843 --> 01:03:03,863
I got the question
whether I had taken drugs or not.
688
01:03:03,903 --> 01:03:09,903
How long it spreads
and how many people take it
689
01:03:09,943 --> 01:03:15,953
- hangs on the newspapers and television.
You're spreading it now.
690
01:03:15,993 --> 01:03:21,853
Everyone will see it,
and I wish it wasn't so.
691
01:03:21,893 --> 01:03:25,873
But you want me to answer honestly.
692
01:03:25,913 --> 01:03:31,963
-But you have a responsibility to ...?
-No, the responsibility lies.
693
01:03:32,003 --> 01:03:35,003
You can't stop spreading it.
694
01:03:35,043 --> 01:03:42,053
I keep it to myself
if you also do it.
695
01:03:42,843 --> 01:03:49,853
When LSD came to this country
it was not illegal.
696
01:03:49,893 --> 01:03:55,823
P� International Psycedelic Center
you could come in and try it.
697
01:03:55,863 --> 01:04:00,873
You got it on a piece of bread.
Later it became illegal.
698
01:04:00,913 --> 01:04:06,993
There were many who thought
that the drug was wonderful.
699
01:04:07,033 --> 01:04:14,873
John said Julian had come home
from school with a drawing
700
01:04:14,912 --> 01:04:20,833
... who arrested his friend Lucy,
up in the sky with diamonds.
701
01:04:20,873 --> 01:04:27,993
John said it didn't sound
was about LSD, but I think so.
702
01:04:28,033 --> 01:04:34,923
You can't miss "LSD"
i "Lucy in the sky with diamonds".
703
01:04:34,963 --> 01:04:37,023
John was not dyslexic.
704
01:04:37,063 --> 01:04:44,043
John said it was a coincidence,
but with artistic freedom ...
705
01:04:44,833 --> 01:04:47,913
It's probably more than just a coincidence.
706
01:04:47,953 --> 01:04:52,053
That it becomes "LSD" is just a coincidence.
707
01:04:52,842 --> 01:04:57,023
I do not think
that it was a secret code.
708
01:04:57,063 --> 01:05:02,833
But when it sounds like that
"I am the walrus" people used to ask:
709
01:05:02,873 --> 01:05:06,013
"What does that mean, John?"
710
01:05:06,053 --> 01:05:11,033
Then he used to
provide nonsense responses with diligence.
711
01:05:11,823 --> 01:05:16,033
He said, "Let them figure it out.
It will confuse them. "
712
01:05:16,823 --> 01:05:19,983
It was just a sleepover.
713
01:05:20,023 --> 01:05:24,833
The Beatles had a good explanation
to "Lucy in the sky with diamonds" -
714
01:05:24,872 --> 01:05:27,983
-but it sure came from Brian Epstein.
715
01:05:28,023 --> 01:05:32,913
It was safe for LSD,
but it didn't sound good in public.
716
01:05:32,953 --> 01:05:39,873
But the BBC did wrong as a forbidden sound,
before it was part of the youth culture.
717
01:05:39,913 --> 01:05:43,013
In "Sgt. Pepper" they participated
sm� shame.
718
01:05:43,053 --> 01:05:50,003
They also had such a thing
"Penny Lane" - "fish and finger pie".
719
01:05:50,042 --> 01:05:55,903
They carried it with diligence.
It was a little vulgar.
720
01:05:55,942 --> 01:05:59,063
The banner "A day in the life" -
721
01:05:59,852 --> 01:06:02,043
-f�r "too many holes
to fill the Albert Hall. "
722
01:06:02,833 --> 01:06:07,983
It was based on an article
about the wall in Blackburn.
723
01:06:08,023 --> 01:06:14,973
They thought it was about
needle stick in the arm. Such was the attitude.
724
01:06:15,013 --> 01:06:21,953
They took risks on that album.
They knew they were taking a risk-
725
01:06:21,993 --> 01:06:26,913
-when they had the stretched out
"I'd love to turn you on".
726
01:06:26,953 --> 01:06:31,923
They knew what they were doing.
They had gotten away with so much-
727
01:06:31,963 --> 01:06:35,873
-and they got away with it too.
728
01:06:35,913 --> 01:06:42,833
They introduced psychedelic drugs
to the whole world.
729
01:06:42,873 --> 01:06:47,992
Many took drugs in the United States, and
Timothy Leary prescribed drugs.
730
01:06:48,033 --> 01:06:53,833
Then that was the quote from
"The Tibetan Death Book".
731
01:06:53,873 --> 01:06:56,963
"I know what it's like to be dead."
732
01:06:57,003 --> 01:07:02,853
They went from "She loves you"
to it. It was dramatic.
733
01:07:02,893 --> 01:07:08,873
Usually it was Mick and Keith
which looked like bad pictures -
734
01:07:08,913 --> 01:07:13,923
-and guys like you don't
would drop his daughter off with.
735
01:07:13,963 --> 01:07:20,053
But the Beatles were no saints.
They probably would have agreed.
736
01:07:20,842 --> 01:07:25,873
There was something else about these drugs
which had saved the British
737
01:07:25,913 --> 01:07:30,023
like cocaine,
which had been present.
738
01:07:30,063 --> 01:07:35,883
Lady Diana Cooper,
a social dam in the 20th century
739
01:07:35,923 --> 01:07:38,963
- when she met pop stars ...
740
01:07:39,003 --> 01:07:46,823
"In the 20th century, we had salt cans full
with cocaine. "So it was nothing new.
741
01:07:46,863 --> 01:07:52,933
Lennon read Lewis Carroll
and took everything in it.
742
01:07:52,973 --> 01:07:56,903
Drugs look like something progressive.
743
01:07:56,943 --> 01:08:00,983
One could find an inner light.
744
01:08:01,023 --> 01:08:04,833
Music is a spiritual thing.
745
01:08:04,873 --> 01:08:08,842
They didn't do it in the studio.
746
01:08:08,883 --> 01:08:13,913
Or so they sat behind a screen
and took a flare at a joint.
747
01:08:13,953 --> 01:08:19,903
But John went up on the roof ... That's right
shows how close they stood to each other.
748
01:08:19,943 --> 01:08:25,853
Paul brought him home.
Neil Aspinall was also with.
749
01:08:25,893 --> 01:08:29,053
They took care of John,
who had taken LSD.
750
01:08:29,843 --> 01:08:34,003
When you take acid, you realize
751
01:08:34,043 --> 01:08:38,053
-what was happening under the trip
already there.
752
01:08:38,843 --> 01:08:44,852
Then you have to
live with that information.
753
01:08:44,893 --> 01:08:49,873
That's why it was simple
when Maharishi arrived, before everyone was ready.
754
01:08:49,913 --> 01:08:55,853
It started with
that George's wife, Patti Boyd-
755
01:08:55,893 --> 01:09:01,013
-Harious talk of Maharishi. He had
come to London for many years.
756
01:09:01,053 --> 01:09:07,033
I saw his picture in the subway
Long before the Beatles discovered him.
757
01:09:07,822 --> 01:09:12,963
Wealth, luxury and fame
had started getting drunk
758
01:09:13,003 --> 01:09:16,933
- so they started something spiritual.
759
01:09:16,973 --> 01:09:22,823
Maharishi had
a quick track to enlightenment.
760
01:09:22,863 --> 01:09:28,843
It only took about half an hour
the day - perfect for a rock star.
761
01:09:28,883 --> 01:09:35,843
Michael McCartney called
and said, "We'll get in the way of a thing."
762
01:09:35,883 --> 01:09:42,853
They made stuff all the time.
It didn't have to be that big.
763
01:09:42,893 --> 01:09:49,063
He said, "They are going to Bangor
and meet Maharishi. "
764
01:09:49,853 --> 01:09:53,043
They had met him the night before.
765
01:09:53,833 --> 01:10:00,843
at a hotel, and listened to him.
George was already interested in-
766
01:10:00,883 --> 01:10:05,013
Indian mysticism,
spiritual awareness and Indian music.
767
01:10:07,003 --> 01:10:12,893
I jumped on the train with the Beatles.
That was 1967.
768
01:10:12,933 --> 01:10:20,823
We were in first grade.
At that time it was separated.
769
01:10:20,863 --> 01:10:25,043
I sat there with the Beatles,
Mick Jagger and Marianne Faithfull.
770
01:10:25,833 --> 01:10:32,833
We traveled to Bangor.
We stopped in Chester.
771
01:10:32,873 --> 01:10:38,053
On the platform stood young people
who screamed and wanted autographs.
772
01:10:38,843 --> 01:10:44,903
John said he was tired
to write autographs.
773
01:10:44,942 --> 01:10:47,983
Then I wrote his name.
774
01:10:48,023 --> 01:10:51,003
Maharishi was on the same train.
775
01:10:51,043 --> 01:10:55,943
He gave us a mantra,
which I cannot disclose.
776
01:11:07,063 --> 01:11:11,822
The Beatles are your followers now.
How is it?
777
01:11:11,863 --> 01:11:14,933
I feel proud.
778
01:11:14,973 --> 01:11:18,923
If the Beatles start
transcendental meditation ...
779
01:11:18,962 --> 01:11:23,033
They are the ideal when it comes to that
energy and intelligence of young people.
780
01:11:23,823 --> 01:11:29,903
It gets young people to stay
more understanding and intelligent.
781
01:11:29,943 --> 01:11:36,943
We met yesterday and talked
for an hour after my release.
782
01:11:36,983 --> 01:11:40,823
They are intelligent and honest.
783
01:11:40,863 --> 01:11:45,053
Can the Beatles spread your doctrine
among other young people in England?
784
01:11:45,842 --> 01:11:48,063
Yes, and all over the world.
785
01:11:48,853 --> 01:11:55,833
The band has fans on all continents,
and people are fascinated by them.
786
01:11:55,873 --> 01:12:00,943
-What do you like about the Beatles?
- They are intelligent boys.
787
01:12:00,983 --> 01:12:04,832
-And their music?
- I haven't heard.
788
01:12:04,873 --> 01:12:09,022
But it is appreciated
All over the world.
789
01:12:18,883 --> 01:12:23,823
Cynthia was like Candide -
she was always left out.
790
01:12:23,863 --> 01:12:29,862
When they meet Maharishi
in Wales she missed the train.
791
01:12:29,903 --> 01:12:33,823
She stood on the platform crying.
792
01:12:33,863 --> 01:12:37,983
Maharishi knew
how to get publicity.
793
01:12:38,023 --> 01:12:44,033
Others also had�
depended on the rich and famous
794
01:12:44,822 --> 01:12:50,013
because they knew about their ideas
got caught with them-
795
01:12:50,053 --> 01:12:54,863
- it should also reach the public.
796
01:12:54,903 --> 01:12:57,912
Maharishi and the Krishna religion
did it.
797
01:12:57,953 --> 01:13:02,823
It led to
a record deal with Apple.
798
01:13:02,863 --> 01:13:05,033
The Christian affair became known
799
01:13:05,823 --> 01:13:11,022
thanks to their relationship with the Beatles.
800
01:13:42,003 --> 01:13:47,933
Considering what they've experienced
and what I have experienced ...
801
01:13:47,973 --> 01:13:52,982
I've experienced some of it
the things you do in a band.
802
01:13:53,023 --> 01:13:58,863
You want more.
You can play live, create music
803
01:13:58,903 --> 01:14:04,852
and experience other great things,
affecting one's life.
804
01:14:04,893 --> 01:14:08,003
It affects how you look at life.
805
01:14:08,043 --> 01:14:13,053
They wanted to take the spiritual
to the next level.
806
01:14:13,842 --> 01:14:19,993
Maharishi was smart. A society dam
launched him in the United States.
807
01:14:20,033 --> 01:14:25,003
Her son became Bungalow Bill
in the song on "The White Album".
808
01:14:25,043 --> 01:14:29,952
He knew
what publicity it would give
809
01:14:29,993 --> 01:14:36,873
to cooperate with it
the most popular music group in the world.
810
01:14:36,913 --> 01:14:42,973
He didn't know the music, but he did
knew they could spread the message.
811
01:14:43,013 --> 01:14:46,963
Maharishi was a smart businessman.
812
01:14:47,003 --> 01:14:50,873
He had studied physics.
813
01:14:50,913 --> 01:14:58,833
He knew science, marketing
and spirituality.
814
01:15:14,003 --> 01:15:19,943
We arrived at Bangor.
The rowers had not come.
815
01:15:19,983 --> 01:15:25,953
Me and the guys in the Beatles
should eat at a Chinese restaurant.
816
01:15:25,993 --> 01:15:31,833
The bill was ten pounds,
but I only had five pounds on me.
817
01:15:31,873 --> 01:15:35,873
I said:
"Sorry, but this is the Beatles."
818
01:15:35,913 --> 01:15:42,923
The waiters came from Hong Kong.
They heard we were from Liverpool.
819
01:15:42,963 --> 01:15:47,963
Liverpool residents used to get there
on Saturdays
820
01:15:48,003 --> 01:15:54,953
-and to a spring note, so they insisted
the door and sharpened his knives.
821
01:15:54,992 --> 01:16:01,863
I said, "I'm a journalist.
I'll pay tomorrow. "
822
01:16:01,903 --> 01:16:06,973
The mood was unpleasant.
Then George put his foot on the table.
823
01:16:07,013 --> 01:16:14,033
He was wearing Indian sandals.
He cut them off.
824
01:16:14,823 --> 01:16:18,953
The Beatles had been famous for four years
825
01:16:18,992 --> 01:16:25,953
and they had stopped bringing them
cash. The rowers raised the money.
826
01:16:25,992 --> 01:16:30,932
George pulled out a twenty-pound note
from the sandal.
827
01:16:30,973 --> 01:16:37,903
They were multimillionaires,
but they never had any cash with them.
828
01:16:37,943 --> 01:16:45,863
He thought, "A beautiful day will come
to need cash. "So it was.
829
01:16:48,853 --> 01:16:52,983
Brian Epstein organized a party
to celebrate "Sgt. Pepper".
830
01:16:53,023 --> 01:16:57,013
The Beatles would have liked to
831
01:16:57,053 --> 01:17:04,983
- a movie or a performance
when the album was released.
832
01:17:05,022 --> 01:17:10,953
Brian had started playing for money
833
01:17:10,993 --> 01:17:15,913
and took a lot of tablets,
and he was slipping.
834
01:17:15,953 --> 01:17:22,982
Cilla Black said to Brian: "I want to
not having you as manager anymore. "
835
01:17:23,023 --> 01:17:26,913
Then he cried and asked her to stop.
836
01:17:26,953 --> 01:17:31,893
Brian was ... gay.
837
01:17:31,933 --> 01:17:35,933
People who were in control understood it.
838
01:17:35,973 --> 01:17:39,943
The strange thing was that he ...
839
01:17:39,983 --> 01:17:45,993
Everyone thought he liked Paul,
which was the lowest in the band.
840
01:17:46,033 --> 01:17:50,843
But he liked John,
which was more macho.
841
01:17:50,883 --> 01:17:58,873
He always used research
picking up guys who weren't gay.
842
01:17:58,913 --> 01:18:04,943
He saw them full
and brought them home.
843
01:18:04,983 --> 01:18:08,823
He supported them,
and then they beat him.
844
01:18:08,863 --> 01:18:13,873
He enjoyed it,
before he was a masochist.
845
01:18:13,913 --> 01:18:18,843
Those guys used to steal stuff.
846
01:18:18,883 --> 01:18:22,032
They often stole test presses,
which they sold to the radio.
847
01:18:22,823 --> 01:18:28,013
He was afraid they would steal
848
01:18:28,053 --> 01:18:30,983
-Beatles songs that were not released.
849
01:18:31,022 --> 01:18:34,943
Brian had nothing to do.
850
01:18:34,983 --> 01:18:41,863
NEMS, Brian's company, had become
the biggest news agency in the world.
851
01:18:41,903 --> 01:18:46,863
They represented the Beatles,
Andy Williams, The Bee Gees-
852
01:18:46,903 --> 01:18:52,923
-Cream, Donovan, Tony Bennett ...
It had been growing for four years.
853
01:18:52,962 --> 01:18:58,042
The Beatles had stopped touring.
854
01:18:59,923 --> 01:19:07,913
Their record deal
was patted and ready-
855
01:19:07,953 --> 01:19:11,943
- so the manager had nothing to do.
856
01:19:11,983 --> 01:19:14,993
Now they turned to someone else
before
857
01:19:15,033 --> 01:19:19,943
about how they would live
and spend their time.
858
01:19:19,982 --> 01:19:23,873
Brian started taking more and more drugs.
859
01:19:23,913 --> 01:19:28,943
He found more and more boyfriends
and he was promiscuous.
860
01:19:28,983 --> 01:19:33,833
He broke with the Beatles
as much as they broke with him.
861
01:19:37,993 --> 01:19:41,913
They started with
transcendental meditation.
862
01:19:41,953 --> 01:19:45,893
They signed up for a course in Bangor.
863
01:19:45,933 --> 01:19:49,023
There was resurrection
when the
864
01:19:49,062 --> 01:19:53,953
to a school
there are trained instructors.
865
01:19:53,993 --> 01:19:58,942
That's where they found out
that Brian had died.
866
01:19:58,983 --> 01:20:03,903
He was found in his bedroom,
of domestic help.
867
01:20:03,943 --> 01:20:09,933
She said he used to sleep long
on the weekends.
868
01:20:09,973 --> 01:20:14,953
She said he was home all evening
yesterday, which was unusual.
869
01:20:14,993 --> 01:20:21,903
Mr. Epstein had been bad for a while,
and taken summer tablets.
870
01:20:21,943 --> 01:20:27,053
Have a month
but his father suddenly.
871
01:20:27,843 --> 01:20:31,903
His friends had
tried to persuade him to take time off.
872
01:20:31,943 --> 01:20:35,973
But yesterday he had said:
"I'll be fine."
873
01:20:36,013 --> 01:20:40,012
His friends have been tough.
874
01:20:40,053 --> 01:20:44,003
They've met
his lawyer, Mr. Jacobs.
875
01:20:44,043 --> 01:20:49,002
One of the friends said as he walked:
"It was an accident."
876
01:20:49,043 --> 01:20:56,013
He was unhappy.
He had never had a partner.
877
01:20:56,053 --> 01:21:02,973
He had had several boyfriends,
but nothing really related.
878
01:21:03,013 --> 01:21:10,863
After all, the forest went
he became depressed.
879
01:21:10,903 --> 01:21:14,852
He took tablets
and were suicidal.
880
01:21:14,893 --> 01:21:20,903
He had done
a suicide attempt earlier.
881
01:21:20,943 --> 01:21:24,833
He was very depressed.
882
01:21:25,993 --> 01:21:30,893
-How do you want to pay tribute to Mr Epstein?
- We don't know what to say.
883
01:21:30,933 --> 01:21:37,893
- He was one of us.
- The words are not enough.
884
01:21:37,933 --> 01:21:43,913
-What are you going to do now?
-We return to London.
885
01:21:43,953 --> 01:21:48,973
Did Maharishi have any comforting words?
-Well ...
886
01:21:49,012 --> 01:21:53,943
Meditation gives a self-confidence
to do so
887
01:21:53,983 --> 01:21:56,943
- though we haven't held it so long.
888
01:21:56,983 --> 01:22:02,023
What we've been talking about now is about
889
01:22:02,063 --> 01:22:07,063
-that they don't exist.
It's just physical.
890
01:22:07,853 --> 01:22:12,933
But life goes on,
and you continue to live.
891
01:22:12,973 --> 01:22:19,963
It's not such a disappointment
as one might think.
892
01:22:20,003 --> 01:22:26,033
It's a comfort to know
that he is fine.
893
01:22:26,823 --> 01:22:31,053
This afternoon
Maharishi talked to you.
894
01:22:31,843 --> 01:22:34,943
What did he give him?
895
01:22:34,983 --> 01:22:40,003
He said we didn't
would be overwhelmed with grief.
896
01:22:40,043 --> 01:22:43,043
We're going to think happy thoughts about Brian
897
01:22:43,833 --> 01:22:47,893
- before those thoughts come
to reach him.
898
01:22:47,933 --> 01:22:55,893
- Did he meet Mr. Epstein?
-No, but he was looking forward to it.
899
01:22:55,933 --> 01:23:01,043
You see that John is shocked.
They were taken by Maharishi.
900
01:23:01,833 --> 01:23:06,993
It was no pastime.
They believed him.
901
01:23:07,033 --> 01:23:13,033
They had been thrown in
in a chaotic world. Brian had.
902
01:23:13,823 --> 01:23:15,893
It was...
903
01:23:15,933 --> 01:23:22,053
There are moments in everyone's life
when we turn to some religion-
904
01:23:22,843 --> 01:23:28,013
or to any philosophy
and seek answers.
905
01:23:28,053 --> 01:23:30,873
That's what they did.
906
01:23:30,913 --> 01:23:38,853
I got a call from a friend,
and I could hardly believe it.
907
01:23:38,893 --> 01:23:44,003
I remember thinking:
"What are we doing now?"
908
01:23:44,043 --> 01:23:50,913
It came as a shock to everyone.
"What are we doing now?"
909
01:23:50,952 --> 01:23:55,892
I remember
that Maharishi told them ...
910
01:23:55,933 --> 01:24:00,993
"Don't worry. He has moved on
to the next step in life. "
911
01:24:01,033 --> 01:24:06,053
"Don't be sorry,
before he is transformed into ... "
912
01:24:06,843 --> 01:24:12,822
He came up with empty phrases,
and unfortunately the Beatles were interviewed-
913
01:24:12,863 --> 01:24:18,042
- just after Maharishi
had given them the hell of a shit.
914
01:24:18,833 --> 01:24:22,833
They seemed cool.
915
01:24:22,873 --> 01:24:27,903
Brian's mother and Brian's brother, Clive-
916
01:24:27,943 --> 01:24:31,053
- kept up,
but they didn't mean anything.
917
01:24:31,843 --> 01:24:36,013
Brian should have gone to Bangor,
but he stayed home.
918
01:24:36,053 --> 01:24:41,033
The same weekend
Robert Stigwood told me.
919
01:24:41,823 --> 01:24:48,923
Brian was there, and we three sat
and watched sports on television.
920
01:24:48,963 --> 01:24:52,973
Then we did
to Battersea nightclub.
921
01:24:53,013 --> 01:24:59,003
We probably smelled a little gray,
Before I remember we were goofy.
922
01:24:59,043 --> 01:25:05,953
Then we have supper. Brian said:
"Shall we have dinner together one day?"
923
01:25:05,993 --> 01:25:09,843
We decided to meet next night.
924
01:25:09,882 --> 01:25:14,822
We drove to Islington
and dinner.
925
01:25:14,863 --> 01:25:17,993
Then we went home to him.
926
01:25:18,033 --> 01:25:23,003
I soon realized that Brian wanted to
that I would sleep over.
927
01:25:23,043 --> 01:25:26,003
But I didn't want to.
928
01:25:26,043 --> 01:25:32,933
I said I'd go home,
and Brian got angry.
929
01:25:32,973 --> 01:25:36,923
He said:
"Can't you stay over the weekend?"
930
01:25:36,963 --> 01:25:43,043
But I knew what he wanted, so
I said, "We'll take it another time."
931
01:25:43,832 --> 01:25:48,833
The next day he invited me over,
but I'd go to Ireland.
932
01:25:48,873 --> 01:25:56,823
-What do we know about Brian's death?
-We know nothing.
933
01:25:56,863 --> 01:25:59,873
I talked to Jo the next day.
934
01:25:59,913 --> 01:26:06,903
They couldn't ... They didn't even know
that he was at home.
935
01:26:06,942 --> 01:26:11,013
He should have been in the country.
936
01:26:11,053 --> 01:26:16,903
Then the driver had called and said
that no one opened the door.
937
01:26:16,943 --> 01:26:21,973
Then she went there and found him.
938
01:26:22,013 --> 01:26:29,923
I didn't understand anything until he was
so happy to be there.
939
01:26:29,963 --> 01:26:35,983
Then he came home
after half the weekend?
940
01:26:36,022 --> 01:26:38,943
But no one knows the whole story.
941
01:26:38,983 --> 01:26:45,843
- Should I tell you about me and Brian?
- Yeah, yeah.
942
01:26:45,883 --> 01:26:51,003
When I was in Ireland a friend called
and said Brian was dead.
943
01:26:51,043 --> 01:26:56,963
It was in the paper
that he had died of an overdose.
944
01:26:57,003 --> 01:27:01,833
I had
the world's first answering machine-
945
01:27:01,872 --> 01:27:06,903
as a company
had custom made �t me.
946
01:27:06,943 --> 01:27:10,983
I knew myself
that when I came home to London-
947
01:27:11,023 --> 01:27:14,993
I would have
a message from Brian.
948
01:27:15,033 --> 01:27:19,922
And I really did
several messages from Brian.
949
01:27:19,963 --> 01:27:23,033
He had gone to his country.
950
01:27:23,823 --> 01:27:29,833
He had left a message ...
"Please come to my country."
951
01:27:29,873 --> 01:27:35,903
Then he said, "I'm home.
Come over. "But I was in Ireland.
952
01:27:35,943 --> 01:27:39,052
The messages became increasingly unclear.
953
01:27:39,843 --> 01:27:44,013
He was safe
taken summertime tablets or anything else-
954
01:27:44,053 --> 01:27:48,873
and forgot he took one,
and taken several.
955
01:27:48,913 --> 01:27:56,883
On the last message
He said, "I wish you were here."
956
01:27:56,923 --> 01:28:00,943
Then he did.
So I was involved in that.
957
01:28:00,983 --> 01:28:07,043
Foolishly, I would be correct,
so I deleted the tape.
958
01:28:09,853 --> 01:28:15,963
I didn't listen to it again. I
did not know what it would be.
959
01:28:34,903 --> 01:28:38,893
Brian had been
a large part of the band.
960
01:28:38,933 --> 01:28:44,833
One thought:
"What's going to happen now?"
961
01:28:44,873 --> 01:28:48,033
But he had played his part.
962
01:28:48,823 --> 01:28:54,043
He had gone on to the spirit world
and they would be somewhere else.
963
01:28:55,063 --> 01:29:02,963
What they lost was a blame,
as a protective parent.
964
01:29:03,003 --> 01:29:08,043
Brian's agreement was not always
the best for the Beatles.
965
01:29:08,833 --> 01:29:15,892
He was based on a previous agreement. He
didn't realize it was new.
966
01:29:15,933 --> 01:29:20,953
But he was committed to protecting them.
967
01:29:20,993 --> 01:29:28,053
As John said
that they were more popular with Jesus.
968
01:29:28,842 --> 01:29:32,993
Brian had staged the US tour yesterday
to protect them.
969
01:29:33,032 --> 01:29:37,053
It did not work,
but he wanted to.
970
01:29:37,843 --> 01:29:43,942
He had acted as a shield
Ever since they first met.
971
01:29:43,983 --> 01:29:46,883
He protected them.
972
01:29:46,923 --> 01:29:52,022
And Brian's group ...
973
01:29:52,063 --> 01:29:59,063
Peter Brown and the others at NEMS
helped the Beatles.
974
01:29:59,853 --> 01:30:05,833
They paid their bills and bought
gifts for their girlfriends.
975
01:30:05,873 --> 01:30:12,833
Brian might not be so good
to take care of the financial
976
01:30:12,873 --> 01:30:20,823
but without him, they did not
become big. He believed in them.
977
01:30:20,863 --> 01:30:26,042
Then he watched
to keep all the sponges away.
978
01:30:26,833 --> 01:30:33,993
But he did not succeed
Keep their own sponges away.
979
01:30:34,033 --> 01:30:39,993
He got rid of money,
but not the Beatles.
980
01:30:40,033 --> 01:30:46,903
Without him and his caution
when it was money
981
01:30:46,943 --> 01:30:49,923
-the flocks around them.
982
01:30:49,963 --> 01:30:55,833
A group needs an arbitrator
when you are not together.
983
01:30:55,872 --> 01:31:01,833
In "Help!" they all offered
in the same house-
984
01:31:01,873 --> 01:31:04,033
-but it was just in the movie.
985
01:31:04,823 --> 01:31:09,863
In a group
develops everyone's personalities.
986
01:31:09,903 --> 01:31:15,973
You are not always together,
but you get it working.
987
01:31:16,013 --> 01:31:21,913
You come to a solution
so you can move on.
988
01:31:21,953 --> 01:31:26,903
Without Brian
they had no arbitrator.
989
01:31:26,942 --> 01:31:32,823
They couldn't do anything themselves.
They had always had him.
990
01:31:32,863 --> 01:31:39,973
He was the one keeping the band together
at that time.
991
01:31:40,013 --> 01:31:46,033
They shook it off quickly
and started Apple.
992
01:31:46,823 --> 01:31:51,833
They started Apple
to merge their assets
993
01:31:51,873 --> 01:31:58,823
-and don't have to pay
so high income tax.
994
01:31:58,863 --> 01:32:02,003
But they made a mistake.
995
01:32:02,043 --> 01:32:06,973
They didn't do it to protect
the rights to his music
996
01:32:07,013 --> 01:32:10,053
... without thinking only short-term.
997
01:32:10,842 --> 01:32:15,053
It was a record label,
which should have some side movement.
998
01:32:15,843 --> 01:32:21,893
The Beatles were also interested
out of fashion, so they should have a store.
999
01:32:21,933 --> 01:32:27,022
They would do everything possible.
They should also have a culture
1000
01:32:27,063 --> 01:32:33,943
that would give
young creative people supported.
1001
01:32:33,983 --> 01:32:37,963
Before the Beatles remember the time
when they did not receive support.
1002
01:32:38,002 --> 01:32:41,913
The Beatles had always been there!
1003
01:32:41,953 --> 01:32:47,903
They had Brian Epstein,
George Martin and Dick James.
1004
01:32:47,943 --> 01:32:52,913
They had three people
who encouraged them all they could.
1005
01:32:52,953 --> 01:32:59,003
But, no ... They had to suffer,
so they would help others suffering.
1006
01:32:59,043 --> 01:33:05,823
I interviewed Paul, and he talked
about communist department stores and such.
1007
01:33:05,863 --> 01:33:08,853
I thought, "That doesn't work."
1008
01:33:08,893 --> 01:33:15,053
I was unsure of the idea,
but I said, "Yeah, so interesting."
1009
01:33:15,843 --> 01:33:20,992
It could have been good,
but it didn't.
1010
01:33:21,033 --> 01:33:24,953
Here we have summer fashion.
1011
01:33:24,993 --> 01:33:30,973
Among the �sk�darna
sat George Harrison and John Lennon.
1012
01:33:37,003 --> 01:33:42,923
Hears a suit in leather
which costs 25 guineas.
1013
01:33:44,023 --> 01:33:48,873
Patti Boyd's creepy announcement
costs 9.5 guineas.
1014
01:33:48,913 --> 01:33:52,873
Here we have a white satin blazer.
1015
01:33:52,913 --> 01:33:56,042
I worked at Apple Boutique.
1016
01:33:56,833 --> 01:34:01,033
I worked there for three months
before we went to India.
1017
01:34:01,823 --> 01:34:05,833
It was brand new.
1018
01:34:05,873 --> 01:34:12,033
There were trinkets from India
and posters with Ganesha.
1019
01:34:12,823 --> 01:34:17,863
It was exciting and different
to work there.
1020
01:34:17,903 --> 01:34:22,922
It agrees with that
how we felt at that time.
1021
01:34:22,963 --> 01:34:30,003
That the world can be full of color,
and not just black and white.
1022
01:34:30,043 --> 01:34:33,943
- Did they hit one?
-Yes, yesterday.
1023
01:34:33,983 --> 01:34:38,842
Right when they got here we met.
1024
01:34:38,883 --> 01:34:44,853
Now we have been around since ten o'clock,
when they had breakfast.
1025
01:34:44,893 --> 01:34:50,832
-How long were they here?
- About three hours.
1026
01:34:50,873 --> 01:34:58,853
-What have you done?
-We have meditated and talked.
1027
01:34:58,893 --> 01:35:05,943
-Will they finish the course?
-I hope so.
1028
01:35:05,983 --> 01:35:09,863
What should they do to make it?
1029
01:35:09,903 --> 01:35:15,932
They must have a deep and clear
experience of existing.
1030
01:35:15,973 --> 01:35:22,843
A doctor had said I had
throat flux, but it was something else.
1031
01:35:22,883 --> 01:35:27,973
John and Cynthia
come and greet me.
1032
01:35:28,012 --> 01:35:35,863
John had made a drawing for me,
by an Indian man with a turban.
1033
01:35:35,902 --> 01:35:39,863
He played flute
and crossed his legs.
1034
01:35:39,903 --> 01:35:43,033
A snake emerged from a basket.
1035
01:35:43,823 --> 01:35:48,013
It said, "With the help of
all internal and external forces "-
1036
01:35:48,053 --> 01:35:52,943
- "I'm driving your throat flux.
Hugs from John and Cyn. "
1037
01:35:52,983 --> 01:35:57,003
George talked about
that he had taken LSD.
1038
01:35:57,043 --> 01:36:02,913
But it was like climbing a mountain
and just see more mountain ranges.
1039
01:36:02,953 --> 01:36:07,973
He wanted to go
explore spirituality without drugs.
1040
01:36:08,013 --> 01:36:11,853
Then they got a break.
1041
01:36:11,893 --> 01:36:16,023
They got to be together
in a quiet place.
1042
01:36:16,063 --> 01:36:20,993
Maharishi wasn't the first
who came into their lives.
1043
01:36:21,033 --> 01:36:26,973
I met the band every night
p� The Scotch of St. James.
1044
01:36:27,013 --> 01:36:32,963
They had met another such person.
Maharishi comes in later.
1045
01:36:33,003 --> 01:36:40,833
After a while, they realized that
the first person was not so good.
1046
01:36:40,873 --> 01:36:43,943
So they went to India with Maharishi
1047
01:36:43,983 --> 01:36:47,983
-which turned out to be
kind of a scam.
1048
01:36:48,023 --> 01:36:51,873
But he booked nice hotel rooms.
1049
01:36:51,913 --> 01:36:56,043
That's fine
to take on Indian mysticism-
1050
01:36:56,833 --> 01:36:59,043
-but �nd� stay at luxury hotel.
1051
01:36:59,833 --> 01:37:04,873
Near the oct
to Maharishi in India ...
1052
01:37:04,913 --> 01:37:09,883
Maureen, Ringo's wife,
was terrified of insects.
1053
01:37:09,923 --> 01:37:15,013
She bought kicking suits for adults
1054
01:37:15,053 --> 01:37:18,893
- so they didn't come to her.
1055
01:37:18,933 --> 01:37:25,953
Richie, who had a weird stomach
after being ill as a child, said:
1056
01:37:25,993 --> 01:37:31,033
"Can you buy stomach medicine?
Buy several liters. "
1057
01:37:31,823 --> 01:37:37,853
"And fill a suitcase
with white beans in tomatoes. "
1058
01:37:37,893 --> 01:37:44,873
So I filled a whole suitcase
with gastric medicine and ...
1059
01:37:44,913 --> 01:37:50,003
Two weeks later they came home. I said
to Maureen: "You were gone a long time."
1060
01:37:50,042 --> 01:37:53,853
"Did the white beans run out?"
1061
01:37:53,893 --> 01:37:57,943
The concept for Apple
had been prepared before Brian died.
1062
01:37:57,983 --> 01:38:03,063
He was worried because he wasn't
had been involved in the planning.
1063
01:38:03,853 --> 01:38:09,903
They didn't keep him outside, though
the project was not his initiative.
1064
01:38:09,943 --> 01:38:13,873
I had heard about Apple
before Brian died.
1065
01:38:13,913 --> 01:38:17,943
It made him feel outside.
1066
01:38:18,933 --> 01:38:25,963
When they created Apple ...
We used to have lunch in the office.
1067
01:38:26,003 --> 01:38:29,903
We had our own chef.
1068
01:38:30,953 --> 01:38:36,013
Paul comes in and one day.
They had lost money.
1069
01:38:36,052 --> 01:38:39,833
He said, "It's gonna come in a guy" -
1070
01:38:39,873 --> 01:38:45,893
- "and tell
what's wrong with our business plan. "
1071
01:38:45,932 --> 01:38:51,963
It was Beeching.
He came over for lunch.
1072
01:38:52,003 --> 01:38:56,953
He would tell
what we did wrong.
1073
01:38:56,993 --> 01:38:59,973
They eat lunch together.
1074
01:39:00,013 --> 01:39:04,893
I made notes during the meeting.
1075
01:39:05,963 --> 01:39:11,992
He looked at Paul and said:
"I can't help anyone."
1076
01:39:12,033 --> 01:39:17,043
"I work for
much bigger companies than Apple. "
1077
01:39:17,833 --> 01:39:20,013
Paul said, "Okay, yeah."
1078
01:39:20,053 --> 01:39:25,992
I looked at Paul
and said, "Yes, exactly."
1079
01:39:26,033 --> 01:39:31,963
They had good and crazy ideas. The
wanted a school and gave out books.
1080
01:39:32,003 --> 01:39:38,963
They invited people to submit
his poems and novels.
1081
01:39:39,003 --> 01:39:45,043
Then they had entire rooms full of paper.
They weren't prepared for it.
1082
01:39:45,833 --> 01:39:52,863
Even though the Beatles were at the forefront.
They took control of their product.
1083
01:39:52,903 --> 01:39:57,003
That was the record cover
and how things looked.
1084
01:39:57,043 --> 01:40:03,833
Then it applied to the material, but it did
were not the same amounts as today.
1085
01:40:03,873 --> 01:40:08,003
A problem with Apple
and everything that happened there was ...
1086
01:40:08,043 --> 01:40:14,963
They had money, freedom
and ideas from India and Maharishi.
1087
01:40:15,003 --> 01:40:21,913
They had a lot of spunkers, and
so they tend to be good at what they do.
1088
01:40:21,952 --> 01:40:29,943
It was like Magic Alex who wanted to
create wallpapers with microphones
1089
01:40:29,983 --> 01:40:34,863
... that would make the world's best sound.
1090
01:40:34,903 --> 01:40:40,853
John was convinced
that he could conjure.
1091
01:40:40,893 --> 01:40:44,933
They were pretty ...
We were all naive.
1092
01:40:44,973 --> 01:40:47,993
Everything was so new.
1093
01:40:48,033 --> 01:40:54,913
But it was nice
that they were not selfish.
1094
01:40:54,953 --> 01:40:58,873
Someone could say:
"I'm doing good vanilla ice cream."
1095
01:40:58,913 --> 01:41:04,052
Then John said, "We'll eat it
every day. "Everyone could get jobs there.
1096
01:41:04,843 --> 01:41:10,053
It got full of
mediocre people there.
1097
01:41:10,842 --> 01:41:17,943
Apple Boutique went the same way.
They brought in all sorts of clothes.
1098
01:41:17,982 --> 01:41:22,903
None of what they did
went on sale.
1099
01:41:22,943 --> 01:41:27,903
Neil was incredibly conscientious,
and a nice human
1100
01:41:27,943 --> 01:41:31,953
And Peter worked hard.
1101
01:41:31,993 --> 01:41:37,883
The office was run
very friction-free and effective.
1102
01:41:37,923 --> 01:41:41,873
My office was lying
between Neils and Peters.
1103
01:41:41,912 --> 01:41:47,973
Neil and Mal had started
"Long and winding road".
1104
01:41:48,013 --> 01:41:51,873
They talked into old memories of tape.
1105
01:41:51,913 --> 01:41:58,983
I did all the correspondence with the US
1106
01:41:59,023 --> 01:42:04,963
-and searched f� tag p�
old movie clips with the Beatles.
1107
01:42:05,003 --> 01:42:09,962
That's how we were
got everything from the US.
1108
01:42:10,003 --> 01:42:15,973
A night out
I went past Neil's side.
1109
01:42:16,013 --> 01:42:20,053
Neil and Mal were sitting by the fire.
1110
01:42:20,843 --> 01:42:26,973
I got to climb over ...
I shouldn't say that.
1111
01:42:27,013 --> 01:42:31,963
Derek Taylor was lying on the floor
and squeaked, and I didn't pass.
1112
01:42:32,003 --> 01:42:38,043
The cartoon character drives
Maharishi. Are you done with him?
1113
01:42:38,832 --> 01:42:42,863
We've gone past that phase.
1114
01:42:42,903 --> 01:42:47,873
He's nice,
but we won't see him anymore.
1115
01:42:48,953 --> 01:42:53,943
I thought he was a scam
from the very beginning.
1116
01:42:53,983 --> 01:42:59,943
The problem was ... John really went
into things.
1117
01:42:59,983 --> 01:43:03,862
He was relieved.
1118
01:43:03,903 --> 01:43:09,832
They had a sheltered existence
so long.
1119
01:43:09,873 --> 01:43:15,913
I thought:
"The tall man is a prisoner."
1120
01:43:15,953 --> 01:43:21,903
I think for sure
that meditation can be useful-
1121
01:43:21,943 --> 01:43:25,863
- but I don't believe it.
1122
01:43:25,903 --> 01:43:29,953
The Beatles believed in the spiritual.
1123
01:43:29,992 --> 01:43:33,913
They wanted to spread it further.
1124
01:43:33,953 --> 01:43:40,883
Maharishi said
that the Beatles were known throughout the world.
1125
01:43:40,923 --> 01:43:44,062
They could spread his message.
1126
01:43:44,853 --> 01:43:50,013
The plan was to start
a meditation activity in London-
1127
01:43:50,053 --> 01:43:53,033
-which the Beatles would be involved in.
1128
01:43:53,823 --> 01:43:59,903
Patti had dreamed of Maharishi
and saw him in a different light.
1129
01:43:59,943 --> 01:44:04,873
And then there it was
Something to do with Mia Farrow.
1130
01:44:04,913 --> 01:44:09,893
There were many,
but we were out of nowhere.
1131
01:44:09,933 --> 01:44:12,003
They lived another life.
1132
01:44:12,042 --> 01:44:18,973
We meditated for six, seven hours -
sometimes all day.
1133
01:44:19,013 --> 01:44:24,893
It was something else entirely
What we and the Beatles were used to.
1134
01:44:24,933 --> 01:44:27,993
Maharishi got bad publicity.
1135
01:44:28,033 --> 01:44:33,963
He was inexcusable.
He just looked a little weird.
1136
01:44:34,003 --> 01:44:40,863
But now you don't see things like that.
At that time they disliked him.
1137
01:44:40,903 --> 01:44:47,963
He just said contradictory things,
like loving each other.
1138
01:44:48,003 --> 01:44:52,053
It was
an extension of the hippie philosophy.
1139
01:44:52,843 --> 01:44:56,833
Poor Maharishi found out
that we should increase.
1140
01:44:56,873 --> 01:45:01,943
He sat watching us, and
a man holds an umbrella over him.
1141
01:45:01,983 --> 01:45:05,942
He said, "Why are you going?"
1142
01:45:05,983 --> 01:45:10,903
John must have said,
but I don't remember ...
1143
01:45:10,943 --> 01:45:15,983
"If you look cosmic
you should know why. "
1144
01:45:18,863 --> 01:45:23,823
The Apple Store Closure, July 1968
1145
01:45:24,003 --> 01:45:30,003
The Beatles store should be closed. They say
that they are tired of it.
1146
01:45:42,033 --> 01:45:48,013
I'm really shaky.
I was pushed in.
1147
01:45:48,053 --> 01:45:53,993
- Were there a lot of people outside?
- I've never seen anything like it!
1148
01:45:54,033 --> 01:46:00,033
- What kind of clothes are you looking for?
- Anything that's fresh.
1149
01:46:00,823 --> 01:46:03,822
- Where are you going?
-For everything is free.
1150
01:46:03,863 --> 01:46:07,043
- Did you shop here otherwise?
- No, it's getting expensive.
1151
01:46:07,833 --> 01:46:12,983
- What are you looking for?
- A dress or a pair of pants.
1152
01:46:13,023 --> 01:46:17,973
- Would you have acted differently?
- Yeah, I used to shop here.
1153
01:46:18,013 --> 01:46:20,963
I like the store.
1154
01:46:21,003 --> 01:46:22,993
You have to wonder ...
1155
01:46:23,033 --> 01:46:29,863
How long would the relationship be between?
the band and their manager please?
1156
01:46:29,903 --> 01:46:33,993
Then Yoko Ono came into the picture.
1157
01:46:34,033 --> 01:46:39,023
She had great influence,
especially John.
1158
01:46:39,063 --> 01:46:44,973
Then the Beatles became a company.
Then Alan Klein came into the picture.
1159
01:46:45,013 --> 01:46:51,863
Then you see how it sounds brilliant
The pop group is constantly changing.
1160
01:47:02,893 --> 01:47:08,993
I think
that it's a perfect record.
1161
01:47:09,033 --> 01:47:15,973
It meant so much,
and it still does.
1162
01:47:16,013 --> 01:47:22,053
It is the world's best rock album.
1163
01:47:22,843 --> 01:47:28,042
None of the Beatles records are bad.
Everyone is brilliant.
1164
01:47:28,833 --> 01:47:35,823
But this is my favorite,
because I was on the whole trip.
1165
01:47:35,862 --> 01:47:41,883
It was revolutionary
what is the concept and the cover.
1166
01:47:41,923 --> 01:47:46,973
It became tremendous for them
could advertise in a new way.
1167
01:47:47,013 --> 01:47:52,932
Then everyone was imprisoned by them.
Almost no one criticized them.
1168
01:47:52,973 --> 01:47:56,963
Everyone thought everything was brilliant.
1169
01:47:57,003 --> 01:48:01,983
It was a masterpiece,
like a pop symphony.
1170
01:48:02,023 --> 01:48:05,902
The continuity was wonderful-
1171
01:48:05,943 --> 01:48:10,853
-from the first song to the end.
1172
01:48:10,893 --> 01:48:14,853
The lads went into each other.
1173
01:48:14,893 --> 01:48:21,003
The Beatles have something for everyone.
It's the world's best record.
1174
01:48:21,043 --> 01:48:25,963
It's amazing. What's more
who has been around for 50 years?
1175
01:48:26,003 --> 01:48:30,003
How many generations
still listening to it?
1176
01:48:30,042 --> 01:48:35,033
Listen to the record in mono,
not in stereo.
1177
01:48:35,823 --> 01:48:40,833
The Beatles weren't there
when the disc is mixed. They were in India.
1178
01:48:40,873 --> 01:48:46,913
They listened to it
and made all decisions in mono.
1179
01:48:46,953 --> 01:48:50,062
That's the most important thing I can say.
1180
01:48:50,853 --> 01:48:56,913
When you get a record and ...
It was many years ago.
1181
01:48:56,953 --> 01:49:02,892
There were one, two or three songs
on the disc that you really liked.
1182
01:49:02,933 --> 01:49:05,963
The rest of the songs were just there.
1183
01:49:06,003 --> 01:49:11,943
They jumped over them, p
that time when you did it yourself.
1184
01:49:11,983 --> 01:49:17,993
On the Beatles records it was two-way -
almost everyone liked it.
1185
01:49:18,033 --> 01:49:22,982
They caught that moment.
They were perfect.
1186
01:49:23,023 --> 01:49:29,022
They took everyone else with them,
as a locomotive.
1187
01:49:29,063 --> 01:49:35,943
If they had had with "Penny Lane"
and "Strawberry fields" -
1188
01:49:35,983 --> 01:49:40,853
- had it become
the world's best record.
1189
01:49:40,893 --> 01:49:45,003
Sometimes I thought, "I can
hardly believe it is right. "
1190
01:49:45,043 --> 01:49:51,973
But I knew
that the music would last forever.
1191
01:49:52,013 --> 01:49:56,042
You get an insight into
a time of change.
1192
01:49:56,833 --> 01:49:59,952
The Beatles give an insight into the 60's-
1193
01:49:59,993 --> 01:50:04,923
-and in the world
and how it was changed.
1194
01:50:04,962 --> 01:50:10,053
It is timeless. People are studying
still Shakespeare.
1195
01:50:10,843 --> 01:50:15,953
With the Beatles, there were also
a well-being factor.
1196
01:50:15,992 --> 01:50:19,983
If you are depressed
to listen to the Beatles.
1197
01:50:20,023 --> 01:50:25,923
Then you see the world in a better light.
Their music has healing powers.
1198
01:50:25,963 --> 01:50:32,823
Four guys ...
It worked and they had talent.
1199
01:50:32,863 --> 01:50:37,923
It never comes
to come a band like them.
1200
01:50:37,963 --> 01:50:43,012
Brian Epstein was interviewed
in the Liverpool Echo.
1201
01:50:43,053 --> 01:50:48,982
He said, "The Beatles will be
bigger than Elvis. "Everyone laughed.
1202
01:50:49,023 --> 01:50:56,043
"How can some leather-clad guys
in a small band from Liverpool "-
1203
01:50:56,833 --> 01:51:02,853
- "Get bigger on Elvis?"
Elvis was the world's greatest artist, after all.
1204
01:51:02,893 --> 01:51:06,063
But he got right.
1205
01:51:06,853 --> 01:51:13,843
He looked something we didn't see.
The Beatles thought it was embarrassing.
1206
01:51:13,883 --> 01:51:18,823
"Should we be bigger than Elvis?"
But Brian was right.
1207
01:51:18,863 --> 01:51:25,043
Charisma and the resurrection that
the name Beatles creates �n today ...
1208
01:51:25,833 --> 01:51:28,832
Where to be:
1209
01:51:28,873 --> 01:51:31,922
Mexico, South America,
Japan, Germany ...
1210
01:51:31,963 --> 01:51:38,923
If you call the Beatles a little �
in Samoa, people become euphoric.
1211
01:51:38,963 --> 01:51:42,893
That's what they have left behind.
1212
01:51:42,933 --> 01:51:46,862
No one knows if anyone can do it.
1213
01:51:46,903 --> 01:51:53,873
But that's fine, and it was
wonderful to have been a part of it.
1214
01:52:03,963 --> 01:52:10,833
538 days after "Sgt. Pepper"
the Beatles released a double album.
1215
01:52:10,873 --> 01:52:16,023
The record was listed all over the world.
1216
01:52:18,002 --> 01:52:21,863
Translation: Helena Lagerholm
www.btistudios.com
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