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We're back on the video record at 12:02 p. m.

Let's talk about Jane Doe 102, Virginia Roberts.

Do you know Virginia Roberts?

So she's... Say again, who? -Virginia Roberts.

Can you spell it?

Common spelling, Virginia, like the state.

Can you spell it for me, please? -Roberts.

How is it... What's the last name? How is it spelled?

R-O-B-E-R-T-S, I believe.

Isn't it true that you and Ghislaine Maxwell

celebrated her 16th birthday with her and had sex with her on that day?

Form, compound,

confusing, argumentative and harassing.

I'd like to answer that question.

But today I'm gonna have to assert my Sixth Amendment rights,

my Fifth Amendment rights.

Is it true that you forced Virginia Roberts

to have sex with numerous friends of yours?

Are you kidding?

The first time I decided to go public,

it was because I gave birth to this beautiful baby girl.

It kind of made me realize what I had been through

was still happening to other people out there.

It wasn't just me.

And I looked at my husband, and I said, "Robbie,

we can't just sit by and be silent anymore.

We've got to do something about it."

I was sexually abused by Prince Andrew.

Someone had to put their hand up and say, like, "He can't just get away with this."

I first met Prince Andrew

March 10th, 2001,

in London at Ghislaine's townhouse.

He knocked on the door, he came inside Ghislaine's townhouse,

and we're sitting there having tea.

Ghislaine has this favorite guessing game that she does.

She goes to Prince Andrew, "How old do you think Virginia is?"

And he said, "Seventeen."

And she's like, "Oh, you're right!"

And, you know, they, like, made a little joke about it.

He's like, "My daughters aren't far from your age.

My daughters are a bit younger than you.

We went out for the night.

Club Tramp in London.

And he dances, and he's profusely sweating over me, and it was disgusting.

We get back to the townhouse, and we go upstairs.

I have this little yellow Kodak camera,

and, um... I ask Jeffrey to take a photo

of me and Prince Andrew together.

And Ghislaine's literally just, like, right behind me.

Ghislaine tells me...

"You're going to have to do for him what you do for Jeffrey."

And it hit me.

And right after that photo was taken,

I was sexually abused by Prince Andrew for the first time.

A former prostitute claims she was just 17

when she allegedly had sexual relations with Prince Andrew.

I've been called a serial prostitute,

a bad mom, a serial liar,

a drug addict, every name under the sun.

The whole Prince Andrew thing, it was just...

kaboom.

And it went from being a harrowing story about trafficking and abuse

to completely Prince Andrew.

I wasn't Prince Andrew's prostitute,

because I was trafficked to him, and I was a kid.

My client Virginia Giuffre

was trafficked by Epstein almost 30 times

when she was under the age of 18, both nationally and internationally.

Virginia came forward publicly in a filing in the Crime Victims' Rights Act๏ฟฝcase.

In that filing, she made public some of the individuals who had abused her

when she was being trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein.

One of those individuals was Alan Dershowitz.

I assure you, I never had sex with Virginia Roberts.

Let me state categorically.

I never had sex with an underage person in my life.

Even when I was an underage boy, I never had sex with an underage girl.

I never had sex with anyone related to Jeffrey Epstein.

I challenge Virginia Roberts

to come on your show,

look in the camera, and say the following words:

"I accuse Alan Dershowitz of having had sex with me

on six or seven occasions."

She has never been willing to accuse me in public.

So please accuse me on this show, I challenge you.

I was with Alan Dershowitz multiple times.

At least six that I can remember.

Well, I was trafficked to Alan Dershowitz from Epstein. Epstein...

made me, essentially,

forced me to... to have sex with him.

Every time I was trafficked was at Epstein or Ghislaine's behest.

He's denied being with me. Is one of us telling the truth? Yes.

Is that person me? Yes.

I came forward in 2016

when the US election started to happen.

This was completely unplanned.

Thank you, everybody.

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both up for election,

and both candidates for US president had affiliations with Jeffrey Epstein.

So I went to almost every single news channel,

British media, American media.

I tried to tell them... I told them who Jeffrey Epstein was, what he did.

I told them who Ghislaine was.

No one would listen. No one would hear my voice in 2016.

This is a moment in time unlike any other.

With the Me Too movement,

women are feeling the ability

to tell what happened to them,

some of the worst moments they've lived, and tell it publicly,

and that is powerful, and it is affecting everything,

and people are looking for justice.

I remember watching the TV about the Me Too movement,

and thinking, "Okay, like, we're next."

We don't need to feel ashamed for having survived these things.

Actually talking about them,

you know, bringing them into the light and finding support from each other

is a huge way towards healing.

There's definitely strength in numbers,

and I feel like women feel more comfortable

to come forward when they know they're not alone.

I think we have an unspoken bond that many people won't ever understand.

Times have changed in a year,

such that these accusations will be listened to in a different way.

It's an explosive investigative series

by the Miami Herald reporter Julie K. Brown, connecting the dots

between President Trump's labor secretary, Alexander Acosta,

and what the Miami Herald calls "the deal of a lifetime"

that was given to accused pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

Senate committee on health, education, labor and pensions

will please come to order.

This morning, we're holding a confirmation hearing

on the nomination of Alexander Acosta

to serve as United States Secretary of Labor.

I did not hear anything about Epstein

until President Trump nominated Acosta to be Labor Secretary.

And so, as I was digging into Acosta's background,

I came upon information about the Epstein case.

I was shocked.

I'd like to ask you about this.

"Federal prosecutors detail their findings

in an 82-page prosecution memo and a 53-page indictment,

but Epstein was never indicted."

And then there's a quote.

Quote, "This agreement", the agreement you described,

"will not be made part of any public record",

the deal between Epstein and Acosta says.

At the end of the day, based on the evidence...

um... professionals within a prosecutor's office decide

that a plea

that guarantees that someone goes to jail

and that guarantees other outcomes is a good thing, and so-

Was that a consensus decision in your office?

It was a broadly held decision.

It was a secret deal, as we now know.

I thought the outrageous nature of the allegations

might lead to a vote against him.

I, Alexander Acosta, do solemnly swear...

I want to thank President Trump, Vice President Pence,

and the members of the Senate

for the privilege of serving as Secretary of Labor.

Karen and Chris, you've got to come take a look at this order.

What happened?

Judge Marra has issued his summary judgment ruling.

What Judge Marra has ruled is that the federal government

entered into a conspiracy with Jeffrey Epstein

to violate the Crime Victims' Rights Act.

This is just fantastic. -Wow.

That is great.

Congratulations. Well๏ฟฝdeserved. -All right.

All right. -It's a good day.

There is now in place a federal order

that the federal government, under Alexander Acosta's direction,

not only failed to inform victims, but actively misled them.

That means that there may be a new hearing in front of a federal judge

where these victims have a right to express their opposition to this deal.

And a judge could decide it was a contract that was illegal from the outset.

Epstein has no immunity.

The federal government has the right to prosecute you

and the right to prosecute your co-conspirators.

There was this elation on behalf of the victims that,

"Hey, look, we won.

We went up against the government and Jeffrey Epstein, and we won.

We proved that you conspired against us, the victims."

When I heard Judge Marra did rule in our favor,

I just felt very accomplished.

Uh... We'd been fighting for this for a long time.

Just to have it in words, "Your rights were violated, period."

It was like, "Okay. Now something's happening."

It became clear

that many of the crimes Jeffrey Epstein had committed in Florida

originated in New York, and that he likely had committed these crimes in New York.

At this stage, the New York investigation was underway.

A federal investigation shining some new light

on a controversial plea deal for a wealthy investor

accused of molesting dozens of underage girls.

This decision to investigate reflects the Me Too movement potentially

touching on the Trump administration and many other powerful people,

and most important, of course, it impacts the women

who took the risk to come forward.

Now New York's finally showing an interest,

my clients were all on board and had been all on board for ten years.

I had heard that there was an investigation

by the FBI in New York and the US Attorney in New York.

Even though it felt as though

the victims were completely abandoned by the entire criminal justice system,

I never gave up over the years,

hoping that some measure of justice would eventually come to the victims.

I had a pretty good inkling that something was going to happen

because the FBI,

along with the detectives from NYPD, were down here in Palm Beach,

interviewing numerous people over the last three months.

I was contacted by the FBI.

They told me that they had this investigation going on in New York,

and they wanted to get, you know,

as much information as they could.

I told them that they needed to look out for their victims.

I told them that

if they were going to do this thing, they needed to really do it.

I was so angry that

I just wanted to... you know, make him pay.

So at that point, I reached out,

which led to a five-hour meeting with the FBI,

and they flew out to LA to meet with me, and that was...

super intense,

but it finally felt like we were getting somewhere.

I had interviewed with some authorities.

So we knew they were closing in.

We were really excited.

I never, ever thought that he would be held accountable.

Big breaking news overnight.

Jeffrey Epstein arrested at a New York area airport.

Jeffrey Epstein was arrested at New Jersey's Teterboro Airport

after returning on a flight from France.

The 66-year-old hedge fund manager was arrested

on federal charges related to sex trafficking.

He has a bond hearing scheduled for Monday in New York.

When I found out that he was arrested, I was like,

"Oh, my God! Like, ๏ฟฝfinally...

he's going to pay for everything that he has done.

I'm going to New York.

Even though I didn't want to see him,

I'm going to see him now that he is in shackles.

You know, he is in, like, an orange jumpsuit.

He is being treated like every criminal would be treated.

This has got to be it. This is when it's going to happen.

They're gonna start digging into his life and start pulling out this spider web

of people that were related to it.

Oh, he's going to jail.

This is it."

Federal prosecutors allege that between 2002 and 2005,

Epstein paid underage girls as young as 14 to have sex with him at his townhouse.

He's a villain, that's it, and we're here to get rid of him.

Shh.

Good morning.

I'm Geoff Berman, United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York.

Today we announce the unsealing

of sex trafficking charges against Jeffrey Epstein.

I remember my lawyer calling me

and saying, "You won't believe this. Do you have anywhere to sit down?"

And while the charge conduct is from a number of years ago,

it is still profoundly important to the many alleged victims,

now young women.

They deserve their day in court.

I looked at my phone...

and then I looked at my phone again.

And then I looked at my phone, and then I was like...

"No."

I mean, there was a flood of emotions. I was confused. I was happy.

Tears of joy were streaming down my face.

Epstein is charged in a two-count indictment.

First, conspiracy to commit sex trafficking,

and second, the substantive crime of sex trafficking of underage girls.

It somewhat restored my faith in the criminal justice system

that was lost by the way the prosecutors in Florida treated the victims

and treated the case back in 2006 and 2007.

The charges are very serious,

and they carry with them a maximum sentence of 45 years in jail,

which to someone of Epstein's age is basically a life sentence.

I just could not believe it.

This all kind of just exploded all of a sudden,

but at the same time,

I also still knew and believed his power and...

uh... ability to get himself out of things.

I was still kind of...

wondering how it was going to go,

and whether or not they were going to really be able

to build a case and to prosecute him.

What's the sitch? You know what's up?

This is Jeffrey Epstein's- -Oh, shut up!

Somebody must have tipped them off to something else.

New raid video showing federal agents as they bust open the door

of his seven-story, 77-million-dollar home on Manhattan's Upper East Side.

Inside, investigators found hundreds,

if not thousands, of female nude photographs.

I think that he would have been a little bit more careful,

and I don't think that there's

just one set of photos.

It makes me wonder if there's photos of myself.

What do you do with those photos?

Do you show your friends? Do you use them to get off?

All those thoughts crossed my mind.

Knowing that he had, in fact, kept tokens like this from women that he had...

um... you know, abused over the years,

that really got to me.

Jeffrey Epstein had no clue that this case was coming down,

that there was any investigation whatsoever into him in New York,

or he never would've come back in the country.

It was interesting. Not long after he's arrested,

everyone who had a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, suddenly...

no one really knew him.

Suddenly,

"Oh, well, we really weren't friends.

I knew him in an ancillary way."

Presidents Trump and Clinton have quickly moved

to put some distance between themselves and Epstein.

I had a falling out with him a long time ago.

I don't think I've spoken to him for 15 years. I wasn't a fan.

"He's not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade

and has never been to Little St. James Island,

Epstein's ranch in New Mexico, or his residence in Florida."

Flight logs obtained indicate

that former President Bill Clinton was on Epstein's private jet at least 26 times

between 2001 and 2003.

Bill Clinton has been on that island.

I saw Bill Clinton sitting with Jeffrey on the living room porch.

I remember having a dinner with Clinton.

He was there, and I never saw him do anything improper.

I wish, you know, he would just come clean about, like, "Yeah, I was there. So what?

Who cares? I didn't see anything going on."

For years, there had been a known affiliation and a friendship

between Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew.

And then, of course, there were the allegations from Virginia Giuffre.

And these stories had dogged him for years.

So he decides, "I'll confront them head-on."

So he sits down with the BBC.

Because I can tell you, categorically...

I don't remember meeting her... at all.

I do not remember a photograph being taken,

and I've said consistently and, um... and frequently...

that we never had any sort of sexual contact whatever.

So I'm sitting outside, and I'm having my cup of coffee,

and I'm watching it on my tablet.

I mean, I wanted to throw my tablet in the pool.

I've no recollection of ever meeting her.

As a victim, I think one thing that we ask for is

some acknowledgment and some remorse.

This guy didn't have any remorse at all.

His arrogance about it, I mean...

The whole "I don't sweat" thing...

I have a peculiar medical condition, which is that I don't sweat...

Um... Or I didn't sweat at the time.

This guy was, like, profusely sweating all over me, and...

"I don't remember her. I've never been upstairs

at Ghislaine's townhouse." How did you know that's upstairs?

She provided a photo

of the two of you together. -Yes.

Your arm was around her waist.

Yes. -You've seen the photo?

I've seen the photograph. -How do you explain that?

I can't.

'Cause I don't... I have no...

Again, I have absolutely no memory of that photograph ever being taken.

I didn't expect him to put his hand up and say, "I'm guilty."

I didn't.

But some form of remorse or acknowledgment would have been...

Would have been better.

I think it's been universally agreed.

It was one of the worst mea culpas ever known to man.

I mean, if people didn't think he was guilty before,

after his interview, I think people thought that something had happened.

So I think that kind of backfired on him.

After Jeffrey Epstein was arrested,

all of a sudden, the FBI now, and this task force, they interviewed me.

They had me look at, uh... a large series...

It must have been 60 or 70 photos of people.

Then they showed me one of Virginia Roberts,

but it was a current photo, and I couldn't identify her.

But... I was told to check

a photo that had emerged out of all of this investigative work,

and that photo is a photo of Prince Andrew

with a young blonde girl. And as soon as I saw her...

That was the girl that he was kind of, like, grinding against at the pool.

She was, at that time, wearing a bikini bottom.

That's it.

But I absolutely can tell you that the photo of her, in the picture,

which is her when she is, I think, 17...

that was Virginia Roberts.

Epstein should have been behind bars years ago.

But, unfortunately,

Secretary of Labor Alex Acosta

cut Epstein a sweetheart deal,

while Acosta was a US attorney in Florida in 2008.

I am calling on Secretary Acosta to resign.

Let me start by reiterating

that I'm pleased that the New York prosecution is going forward.

They've brought these charges based on new evidence against Jeffrey Epstein,

who is now a registered sex offender.

And this is a very, very good thing.

It's quite unbelievable that Mr. Acosta could get up there with a straight face

and talk about how uh... he's happy

that new charges are brought by the Southern District of New York,

which means, essentially, Mr. Acosta is admitting that it's wonderful

that another district office was doing a better investigation than his office did

and found more victims than he did.

I called the President this morning.

I told him that I thought the right thing was to step aside.

I do not think it is right and fair for this administration's Labor Department

to have Epstein as a focus.

Th... This is just totally a bunch of bullshit.

It would be selfish for me to stay in this position.

He knows that we know now that

this case was never an ultimatum to Jeffrey Epstein.

That this was an indictment

that the federal government had against him

that they decided not to go forward with.

Now, I know why he resigned today.

Because he knew, within 24 hours, the real people that knew the truth

were going to come forward and say

that, "Mr. Acosta, you're full of shit. That's not what happened."

Excuse my French.

A Manhattan judge is expected to decide

whether Jeffrey Epstein should be released on bail ahead of his federal trial.

Epstein pleaded not guilty.

His attorneys say he's ready to post up to 100 million dollars bail.

And you have victims who say that they are frightened

if he is out.

I was able to fly to New York

to be present at the court hearings.

I definitely thought he would get out on bond,

just because of how much money he has.

And it was just like, that's exactly what happened the first time.

I didn't even know if I could get into the court

because I wasn't sure how it worked, um...

But I just wanted there to be somebody there

to represent the survivors.

What do you think is the safest route?

David, I think we should take it that way.

That way. Yeah, more quiet.

Ready? -Let's go.

We're gonna try to get in. -Let's go. It'll be more quiet.

They're very courageous and they want to encourage others to come forward.

That's why they're here.

That day was crazy.

Media attention, and it was something that I never dealt with before.

Brad, this way.

It was just a lot to take in all in one day.

I was terrified. I had never experienced something like that. I was...

I was actually, like, holding Courtney's hand because I was like...

"Uh... I need to feel some kind of, like, comfort right now."

Me and Michelle๏ฟฝdefinitely... It was like soul sisters.

"We were victims of Jeffrey Epstein, and here we are.

There's no more hiding. You know, it's no more Jane Doe.

Like, I'm Courtney Wild, and I was sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein."

Michelle said the same thing, and it was just overwhelming.

But there's power in more than one person.

I want him to... to look at me,

and I wanted to be like, "Do you remember me?

Do you remember my face? Do you remember anything about me?

Of course you don't remember me, because there was hundreds like me.

You don't remember me, but, uh! I'll remember you for the rest of my life.

That's something that I have to remember.

So I want you to take a good look at my face right now,

and I want you to remember

the people that are going to put you in prison for the rest of your life."

Brad, we've gotta go soon.

You know, my heart's starting to race,

like, "Oh, my God, this is... This is...

the moment, like, I have kind of dreaded

ten years, 15 years?"

I'm going to see him, and...

I haven't seen him since he was

laying out on a table,

masturbating and going to town on himself.

And, you know,

like, that's the last time I've actually seen him in person.

Stay back, stay back, stay back!

Go back. No. Stay up on the steps.

I was sitting in the courtroom, and...

I was just... I was so upset.

I was... I was crying.

It was super overwhelming, um...

He had, like, a bald spot on the back of his head.

He was in, like, the jumpsuit. I was like...

"This is just... This is unbelievable."

I got to look at him in the face in the courtroom and say,

I was sexually abused by him, by Jeffrey when I was 14,

and to please not give him bond and stuff like that.

And even though it was such a short period of time,

it was just a short statement I got to say,

you know, he still had to look at me and hear me say that.

His attorneys were offering hundreds of millions of dollars

for bond money, which should ensure that he's going to return.

It started at 500 million.

They were making offers to the court

in order to try to convince the judge to let him out.

He'll give all of his wealth, whatever it takes to get him out.

But then the prosecutors presented additional evidence.

When they broke into the home,

and they found child pornography in his safe,

they also found a number of other things, diamonds, passports that were false.

The diamonds, passport...

It looks like an escape plan.

He's had an escape plan forever.

Ha!

Good shit. -What happened?

He's not getting out,

and this means he'll probably spend the rest of his life in jail.

We're thrilled today with the ruling by Judge Berman.

Only by taking away the freedom of Jeffrey Epstein

can we restore the freedom of these victims.

No bail for Jeffrey Epstein, the judge agreeing with the government

that Epstein presents a danger to the community

and also an extreme risk of flight.

He also talked a lot about the community can't be safe.

He was a danger to the community.

And he was very, uh... moved by the statements by the two victims.

This is a guy who manipulated, threatened,

uh... bought his way in and out of trouble.

And now, for the first time in a jail cell in Lower Manhattan,

it looks like there was no way to buy his way out.

With everything coming out again and having to go through and relive it,

I'm scared.

Scared to be dragged through the media again.

It's just been a roller coaster.

I've been up and down every day.

I have been sick to my stomach. Um... I've cried a lot.

I mean, I think we can all assume with his...

reach, and his planes, and his wealth,

he could very well walk out the front door and we could never see him again.

And I'm hoping that after this time,

um, that it's the final time, and that he actually does not get out.

I was laying on the sofa and kind of drifting in an out of sleep,

and, um... my husband came and sat next to me,

and he woke me up, like, you know, in a way that I knew something was wrong.

And he said, "I have some hard news."

The disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein is dead.

Epstein took his own life while behind bars here in New York City,

while facing charges of sex trafficking.

"Committed suicide? What?

How is that possible?"

What we know is at some point this morning,

the Bureau of Prisons and prison officials found Jeffrey Epstein in his cell.

Apparently, he had hanged himself.

I was kind of in shock.

It didn't hit me for maybe a couple hours,

and then I got really, really angry

that I couldn't face him and tell him what he'd done to me and my life.

His body in that van you see there

seen heading for the Medical Examiner's office.

It is a stunning turn of events for a man who lived a life of exceptional wealth

with extremely powerful people in his orbit.

It is inconceivable that in a prison,

a federal prison that housed terrorists and El Chapo,

that had cameras, that had guards everywhere,

that something could go wrong

and harm could come to Jeffrey Epstein. Inconceivable.

Reports indicated that he tied his bed sheet

around his neck, and strangled himself.

It's a federal prison, notoriously underfunded,

something of a hellhole,

and it's revealed that the guards were sleeping.

The cameras weren't working.

Everything that could go wrong went wrong.

Honestly, I felt so devastated that...

once again, he had...

you know, managed to escape any kind of accountability.

That's how it felt. Like people just didn't care enough

to make sure that he was alive to go to trial.

There's no justice in this.

There was just so much more to be said...

that's never going to be said.

And that's sad.

I didn't know how to react to it.

I felt sad immediately and I...

Not to say that, like, he didn't do bad things,

not to say that he didn't deserve something terrible to happen to him...

I just don't think that was the ending that anybody wanted.

Before I begin, I'd like to briefly address news

from the Manhattan Correctional Center over the weekend

regarding Jeffrey Epstein.

We are now learning of serious irregularities at this facility

that are deeply concerning

and demand a thorough investigation.

If you wanna know how he could slip through the cracks on this,

the New York's Metropolitan Correction Center used to be called "the Tombs."

It's a notoriously, you know, harsh place.

It's understaffed, and largely staffed by not the smartest people.

He knew his life was done.

He wanted to kill himself,

and he killed himself the first chance he got.

I think it's just typical of the whole Jeffrey Epstein story.

Even in death, he kept the controversy alive.

Wild rumors and theories about how Jeffrey Epstein died

on the federal government's watch is breeding online.

I think it's the never-ending story.

Did he kill himself? Was he killed? Was there a hit out?

Did one of these powerful men pay a prison guard to kill him?

I don't know.

This case is ripe for conspiracy theories.

That's part of the story. There's so many weird sort of connections.

Conspiracy theorists have claimed that Epstein's death wasn't a suicide,

or it was faked.

Other Epstein theories floating online,

"How convenient now for the princes, and politicians,

and other powerful people Epstein mingled with

that he's dead."

I'm sure many people wanted him dead.

He had a lot of information on a lot of people, a lot of blackmail.

Videos and pictures.

If you look here, the limestone,

inside the house, behind, like, a space like that,

they have cameras, and they have them everywhere.

Jeffrey took me into a room which is a bit back further than this window,

and it's leaded.

And it had all the computers

and all these monitors, like, the old-fashioned TV monitors, stacked.

I'm looking at the monitors, and I'm like, "That's my room.

That's the massage room.

That's my shower. That's my toilet.

That's everyone else's toilet in the house.

That's everyone else's shower in the house."

That's... Every single corner of that house was monitored.

He was watching everybody all the time.

This was a blackmail scheme.

All those powerful people abusing underage girls.

When he told me,

"People owe me favors, and I will never get caught.

I can get away with things",

he meant it.

I think that he would take a lot of people down.

This wasn't just a ring for Jeffrey Epstein.

This was an international sex trafficking ring.

This has reached all over the world.

He is a very small piece in a huge network.

Mark Epstein, Jeffrey's brother, is not buying the suicide.

He doesn't believe it.

So he hires a renowned forensic expert to take another look at the autopsy.

A call came in from Dr. Michael Baden,

who is representing the family, specifically the brother,

Mr. Mark Epstein.

I then received a copy of the autopsy report

and discussed things with Dr. Baden at great length.

There was no evidence at all to indicate

that he had jumped or leaped from the bunk.

I came to learn that there were fractures of the hyoid bone,

which is a delicate, U-shaped bone

located high in the neck directly beneath the mandible, the lower jaw.

I have here, uh... from a totally unrelated case, of course,

a hyoid bone.

Now, there is some soft tissue still attached.

On, uh, Jeffrey Epstein,

three fractures were found:

the horn of the hyoid bone on the left side,

and then directly beneath on Jeffrey Epstein

there were fractures of the thyroid cartilage

and then on the right side of the thyroid cartilage.

You do not get those three fractures

with a suicidal hanging of someone leaning forward.

So where, again, is the force

that would have been required to produce those fractures from kneeling forward?

I can say I've never seen it myself in all of my autopsies.

I would say, to have these three fractures in that kind of a suicidal hanging

would be extremely rare. Extremely rare.

What really took this tragedy to another level, in my view,

was when he moved his money over to the Virgin Islands in his will.

Jeffrey Epstein signed a will two days before he committed suicide.

At that time, he knew he was committing suicide,

but I would presume his lawyers didn't know that.

It made it much more difficult for the victims to get restitution,

and in my view, it sort of underscored his evilness, you know, his venality.

It basically showed that he had no remorse whatsoever.

He didn't think he did anything wrong.

That just says it all about Jeffrey Epstein, you know.

It was a "Fuck you" to the victims.

Like, he had no, sort of, remorse about victims.

The victims... Certain things have been taken from them forever.

They'll never get the satisfaction of seeing him in jail for life.

But there will come a point in time where they're able to prove

that they were victimized, they were harmed by the victimization,

and... and that they should be compensated for it.

But they're never going to be made whole,

because you just can't ever take back what happened to them.

Epstein's lawyers wanted to dismiss the case.

You can't, uh... try a dead guy.

But the judge wasn't going to let that happen.

The judge was going to let some of the victims have their day in court.

Good morning, Your Honor. -Nice to see you.

Nice to see you.

Up to 30 women are expected to accept a New York judge's invitation

to address the hearing

before he moves to dismiss the criminal sex trafficking case against Epstein.

The invite to the hearing was all very last-minute.

As emotional as this has all been for me,

it's also ignited, sort of, this dragon, if you will, in me

that I feel the need to...

speak my truth and to have my voice heard.

More than a dozen alleged victims

of convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein finally had their day in court.

We deserved our day in court.

I think it was a very cowardly thing for him to do.

He escaped justice.

I was so touched

by the strength of the women that were there

getting up and sharing their experiences, so many for the first time.

It was a very cathartic experience to be there.

Judge Berman, he changed my life.

For the first time,

I actually saw someone in a position of power

that actually had any form of respect for us,

and he listened,

and that's all I ever wanted,

was for someone to listen and for someone to hear me.

Judge Berman gave me back something

that I never thought was possible.

He gave me back a piece of myself that...

was missing for so long.

Hugging those girls in court...

It was beautiful.

We cried, we laughed, we hugged...

and we all had each other's backs that day in court.

The way that Judge Berman treated these victims

is going to be the model for how victims should be treated.

I think that it's going to go down in history as the most important case

on behalf of crime victims in US history to date.

It makes me sick to my stomach that there's perpetrators out there that

obviously helped him in many ways for a very long time,

and they're still out there.

It gives nobody justice, and it leaves a lot of unanswered questions.

It's also pretty upsetting to see how many lives he's devastated,

and to see...

how long this went on for, and nobody did anything about it.

It's incredibly scary to come forward

against someone like Jeffrey Epstein,

who's a billionaire, who has friends in very high places,

who has intimidated them, who has abused them,

and to stand up many years later and to say, "This was wrong,

it shouldn't have happened to me,

and I don't want it to happen to anybody else",

is just an incredible thing to witness.

Okay, let's see.

I felt completely defeated.

My life was threatened.

My work was threatened. My career was... jeopardized completely.

I've pretty much been on a journey for 20 years of not doing my art,

of not painting,

and I was just trying to survive.

And then I began again painting because I was tired of being afraid.

I felt like I wanted to expose the monsters,

and I just needed to get that out.

And so this is an illustration.

Basically, it's my diagram for the FBI,

because I want them to see what I told them all those years ago.

And it's a version of Bosch's Garden of Earthly Delights,

which is basically just like Dante's Inferno,

portraying Heaven, Hell, and Earth.

This is our lovely Ghislaine Maxwell.

She's a pill, a hard pill to swallow,

and she's the property of the FBI in this drawing.

I put Epstein here with his little UFO on a NASA tower

because Epstein was, um...

given a free ride by our government.

And, um... Yeah. That's...

That makes me angry.

So I'm actually working on something new right now.

I'm drawing the other๏ฟฝEpstein survivors

because it empowers me to provide them with strength.

And basically it's just about strength in numbers at this stage.

We really... I mean, we need each other to get through this.

This is Annie, my sister,

and she's holding a paper doll.

What's gonna bind them together

is they're gonna be holding these paper dolls,

and the paper dolls represent the children who have not come forward,

and we don't know what happened to them.

I think this was just one chapter in my life.

For a long time, I didn't want to think about myself as a victim.

And it's interesting because I've gone on to work as a therapist.

I do think the fact that I had this experience has helped me

to understand how people respond to certain situations,

and, you know, to be the kind of therapist that I am.

This is Courtney.

Courtney is very strong, and she's definitely been through a lot.

And I admire her so much.

My life is definitely still a struggle

for everything that I went through with Jeffrey.

However, it has kind of come to an end.

It's a good thing, it's a bittersweet thing, because it's over,

and I can kind of work through the healing process now.

And this is Michelle.

Michelle has, like, a really fun spirit, I feel.

She has a great sense of humor, and, also, she's beautiful,

and I wanted to...

depict her as I see her, so...

This isn't over.

I really hope that the police, the FBI, the government...

Just do your job.

I go to work. I do my job every single day for the rest of my life.

Uh... You're given that position and that power

to make things right, to do the right thing.

So do the right thing. That's it. It's plain and simple, you know?

Take them down. Take everybody down.

That's Sarah. She's my favorite.

I love this girl.

She's precious.

I feel a very special bond with her. I love her like a sister.

I'll never get to see Jeffrey again,

and I wanted him to see the woman I have become,

and that he didn't break me.

And I will fight till my last breath on Earth.

I'm here today to tell you that it stops here,

and it stops now, and I am here.

My fight for the rest of my life will be to make sure

that no woman will ever feel ashamed to come forward.

This is Virginia.

And I didn't know that Virginia used a butterfly as a symbol,

which obviously makes sense, a symbol of freedom, leaving the cocoon.

But I didn't know that when I drew this. I found that kind of interesting.

Epstein did not act alone. So my next step is...

holding other people accountable.

The people that were involved, the people that actually participated,

there are so many of them out there.

None of them have been held accountable.

We were kids being trafficked under their eyes, under their nose.

They knew exactly what was going on,

and they didn't say anything about it.

So stop worrying about saving your own hide

and help us. That's all we're asking for.

Let's go!

What are you doing in there? What are you doing?

The monsters are still out there,

and they're still abusing other people.

Why they have not been named and shamed yet... is beyond me.

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