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mk2 films
A Guardian Documentaries production, in association with JW Films.
In partnership with Placeholder Films, Unseen Hand, and mk2.
NAZA
The interviewees in this film spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Their appearances and voices have been digitally altered to conceal their identities.
Good morning, we are now studying a lesson on Arabic verbs.
A highly bureaucratic program.
Do you work on a computer?
Yes. You go through training so you can take part in attacks.
All right. A system that contains all
the Air Force's targets.
Is there any building in Gaza whose operation you planned?
I'm sure I was involved, like, in the design of buildings that collapsed.
Do you remember how many?
No.
Do you know I'm doing this right now?
Yes.
If I make these accusations in public, Israel will put me in jail for revealing them.
I can't think of a more isolated place than a rooftop. Yes.
You see the city, but the city doesn't see you, and, in a way...
He is standing in front of a screen.
Look at it this way: there are other buildings nearby, and this is the one we need to attack.
First, one of the things you receive is the building's dimensions.
This building will be 20 meters tall. Actually, it's 15 meters.
One of the things they do is count how many floors there are.
How do you know how many floors there are? Usually, by looking at the windows.
This is also confirmed by the height. A floor in Gaza is usually about three
meters.
That's right.
We've noticed that on the 6th floor there's a Hamas member, right?
He has been charged.
But if, on that floor, the information indicates there are four civilians, the Naza responsible for the attack
It's four.
Naza four.
What is Naza?
Naza: collateral damage. The number of people who will die in the attack,
as a result of the attack.
It is said: Naza 15.
No one says that 15 people are going to die, let alone that they are going to die
15 children and women. It's called Naza 15.
Do you know what Naza's numbers were?
I don't remember them.
Do you know anyone who knows?
Let him talk to me, because I really want to understand.
Yes, and it doesn't look like he's in the mood to talk
that.
I'm trying to figure it out, too... Ouch.
In Naza, is there a difference between, say, children, babies, and men?
No.
Is a baby a Naza?
Yes.
Yes.
I've never had to deal with that.
What's the highest number you can remember in a single attack?
I can't say how many died; it's never verified. But 500 were approved,
like, to...
...just one person.
Quinhentos is kind of... it's a small town in the State of Israel.
Yes.
"A video game," we always used to say.
- Really? Did they really say that? - Yeah, it's just like a video game.
It's all done remotely.
The number of attacks I remember: 200.
An elderly person: we're not quite sure where he is. Anywhere we suspect he might be
We bombard everything that happens in our daily lives. And with powerful rays.
Let's say: a man over here, a building over there— we'll attack everything. An entire neighborhood.
At one point, anyone at the Lavender could be bombarded with Naza 20.
Naza 20. Naza 20.
Naza 20 has suddenly become the benchmark. Very low-ranking Hamas members are being killed
with his finger very, very loose on the trigger, following orders.
But when you authorize the killing of 20 people for every junior operative, and there are more
Kids... you'll end up all over Gaza. Yeah.
Right. I don't even know yet what to make of this realization.
Like, sure, yeah.
In practice, that was also why, at a certain point, I just couldn't be there anymore.
At one point, I couldn't stay, and I can't be a part of this.
- But you've been a part of this before. - Yes.
Citizens of Israel, we have crushed the enemy with a massive airstrike.
It will be a victory of good over evil, of light over darkness.
In class, we watched a movie about that. It's called *Eye in the Sky*.
There's the offense, which was my role.
They go to great lengths to convince them that there is a moral purpose to this.
That's something I used to tell myself, too.
There are cases in which they attack someone and see that the person is injured but still alive,
And then, almost always, they just throw another one on top of it.
I don't know if I've ever been happy about killing someone.
In my unit, there aren't that many who hate Arabs.
I mean, come on, it's an elite unit, basically full of people from Tel Aviv...
There aren't really that many people there who, like, hate Arabs,
- A crazy dehumanization. - But the people you describe, and who
We interviewed people who say they don't hate Arabs—but, in my view, they've killed more Arabs
over the past two years.
Yes, I...
What I'm saying is that it's about fulfilling the mission. I mean, that's the mission.
Israel's main military headquarters is located in the heart of Tel Aviv.
Good morning, we are now studying a lesson on Arabic verbs.
A highly bureaucratic program.
Do you work on a computer?
Yes.
You go through training so you can take part in attacks.
All right. A system that contains all the attack targets of the
Air Force.
Is there any building in Gaza whose operation you planned?
I'm sure I was involved, like, in the design of buildings that collapsed.
Can you say how many?
No.
Do you know I'm doing this right now?
Really?
If I make these accusations in public, Israel will put me in jail for revealing them.
I can't think of a more isolated place than a rooftop. Yes.
You see the city, but the city doesn't see you, and, in a way...
He is standing in front of a screen.
Think of it this way: there are other buildings nearby, and this is the one we need to attack.
First, one of the things you receive is the building's measurements.
This building will be 20 meters tall. Actually, it's 15 meters.
One of the things they do is count how many floors there are.
How do you know how many floors there are? Usually, by looking at the windows.
This is also confirmed by the height. A floor in Gaza is usually about three meters high.
So...
We've noticed that on the 6th floor there's a Hamas member, right?
He has been charged.
But if, on that floor, the information indicates there are four civilians, the Naza responsible for the attack is
four.
Naza four.
What is Naza?
Naza: collateral damage. The number of people who will die here in the attack,
as a result of the attack.
It is said: Naza 15.
No one says that 15 people are going to die, let alone that they are going to die
15 children and women. It's called Naza 15.
Do you know what Naza's numbers were?
I don't remember them.
Do you know anyone who knows?
So, let him talk to me, because I really want to understand.
Yes, and it doesn't look to me like he's in the mood to talk
that.
I'm trying to figure it out, too.
In Naza, is there a difference between, say, children, babies, and men?
No.
Is a baby a Naza?
Yes, yes.
No.
I've never had to deal with that.
What's the highest number you can remember in a single attack?
I can't say how many died; it's never verified. But 500 were approved,
like, to...
...just one person.
Quinhentos is kind of... it's a small town in the State of Israel.
Yes.
"A video game," we always used to say.
- Really? Did they really say that? - Yeah, it's just like a video game.
It's all remote.
The number of attacks I remember: 200.
An elderly person: We're not quite sure where he is.
Any place we suspect he passes through on a daily basis, we bomb.
And with large spokes.
Let's say: a man over here, a building over there— we'll attack everything. An entire neighborhood.
At one point, anyone at the Lavender could be bombarded with Naza 20.
Naza 20.
Naza 20.
Naza 20 has suddenly become the benchmark. Very low-ranking Hamas members are being killed
with his finger very, very loose on the trigger, following orders.
But when you authorize the killing of 20 people for every junior operative, and there are more
juniors... you make it all the way to Gaza.
Right. I don't even know yet what to make of this realization.
In practice, that was also why, at a certain point, I just couldn't stay there anymore.
I couldn't stay there, and I can't be a part of this.
Well, at least you took part.
- What do you mean? You've been part of this before. - Yes.
Citizens of Israel, we have crushed the enemy with a massive airstrike.
It will be a victory of good over evil, of light over darkness.
In class, we watched a movie about that. It's called *Eye in the Sky*.
There's the offense, which was my role.
Yes, that's true.
They go to great lengths to convince them that there is a moral purpose to this.
That's something I used to tell myself, too.
There are cases in which they attack someone and see that the person is injured but still alive,
And then, almost always, they just throw another one on top of it.
I don't know if I've ever been happy about killing someone.
In my unit, there aren't many who hate Arabs. Come on, it's an elite unit,
Actually, it's full of people from Tel Aviv... There aren't many people there
whatever, like...
- That he hates Arabs—that's insane dehumanization. - But the people you describe, and who
we interviewed, who say they don't hate Arabs,
were, in my opinion, the ones that killed the most Arabs
over the past two years.
Yes.
What I'm saying is that it's about fulfilling the mission. I mean, that's the mission.
Israel's main military headquarters is located in the heart of Tel Aviv.
Good morning, we are now studying a lesson on Arabic verbs.
A highly bureaucratic program.
Do you work on a computer?
Yes. You go through training so you can take part in attacks.
All right. A system that contains all
the Air Force's targets.
Is there any building in Gaza whose operation you planned?
I'm sure I was involved, like, in the design of buildings that collapsed.
Do you know how many?
No.
Do you know I'm doing this right now?
Really?
If I make these accusations in public, Israel will put me in jail for revealing them.
I can't think of a more isolated place than a rooftop. Yes.
You see the city, but the city doesn't see you, and, in a way...
He is standing in front of a screen.
Look at it this way: there are other buildings nearby, and this is the one we need to attack.
First, one of the things you receive is the building's dimensions.
This building will be 20 meters tall. Actually, it's 15 meters.
One of the things they do is count how many floors there are.
How do you know how many floors there are? Usually, by looking at the windows.
You can also tell by the height.
The standard ceiling height in Gaza is around three meters.
That's it.
We've noticed that on the 6th floor there's a Hamas member, right?
And he's been charged.
But if, on that floor, the information indicates there are four civilians, the Naza responsible for the attack
It's four.
Naza four.
What is Naza?
Naza: collateral damage. The number of people who will die in the attack,
as a result of the attack.
It is said: Naza 15.
No one says that 15 people are going to die, let alone that they are going to die
15 children and women. It's called Naza 15.
Do you know what Naza's numbers were?
I don't remember them.
Do you know anyone who knows?
Let him talk to me, because I really want to understand.
Yes.
Yes, and I don't think he's in the mood to talk about that.
I'm trying to figure it out, too.
In Naza, is there a difference between, say, children, babies, and men?
No.
Is a baby a Naza?
Yes.
Yes.
I've never had to deal with that.
What's the highest number you can remember in a single attack?
I can't say how many died; it's never verified. But 500 were approved,
like, to...
...just one person.
Quinhentos is kind of... it's a small town in the State of Israel.
Yes.
"A video game," we always used to say.
- Really? Did they really say that? - Yeah, it's just like a video game.
It's all done remotely.
The number of attacks I remember: 200.
An elderly person: we're not quite sure where he is. Anywhere we suspect he might be
We bombard everything that happens in our daily lives. And with powerful rays.
Let's say: a man over here, a building over there— we'll attack everything.
An entire neighborhood.
At one point, anyone at the Lavender could be bombarded with Naza 20.
Naza 20.
Naza 20.
Naza 20 has suddenly become the benchmark. Very low-ranking Hamas members are being killed
with his finger very, very loose on the trigger, following orders.
But when you authorize the killing of 20 for every junior operative—and there are endless numbers of juniors—
You make it all the way to Gaza. Yes.
Okay.
I myself still don't know what to make of this realization.
Okay, sure.
In practice, that was also why, at a certain point, I just couldn't be there anymore.
I couldn't stay there, and I can't be a part of this.
Well, at least you took part.
- What do you mean? You've been part of this before. - Yes.
Citizens of Israel, we have crushed the enemy with a massive airstrike.
It will be a victory of good over evil, of light over darkness.
In class, we watched a movie about that. It's called *Eye in the Sky*.
There's the offense, which was my role.
Yes, that's true.
They go to great lengths to convince them that there is a moral purpose to this.
That's something I used to tell myself, too.
There are cases in which they attack someone and see that the person is injured but still alive,
And then, almost always, they just throw another one on top of it.
I don't know if I've ever been happy about killing someone.
In my unit, few people hate Arabs. It's elitist, full of people from Tel Aviv...
There aren't really that many people there who, like, hate Arabs,
- A crazy dehumanization. - But the people you describe, and who
we interviewed, who say they don't hate Arabs,
were, in my view, the ones that killed the most Arabs
over the past two years.
Yes.
What I have to say is that it's about fulfilling the mission.
Like, that's the mission.
Israel's main military headquarters is located in the heart of Tel Aviv.
Good morning, we are now studying a lesson on Arabic verbs.
A highly bureaucratic program.
Do you work on a computer?
Yes.
You go through training so you can take part in attacks.
All right. A system that contains all the attack targets of the
Air Force.
Is there any building in Gaza whose operation you planned?
I'm sure I was involved, like, in the design of buildings that collapsed.
Can you say how many?
No.
Do you know I'm doing this right now?
Really?
If I make these accusations in public, Israel will put me in jail for revealing them.
I can't think of a more isolated place than a rooftop. Yes.
You see the city, but the city doesn't see you, and, in a way...
He is standing in front of a screen.
Look at it this way: there are other buildings nearby, and this is the one we need to attack.
First, one of the things you receive is the building's dimensions.
This building will be 20 meters tall. Actually, it's 15 meters.
One of the things they do is count how many floors there are.
How do you know how many floors there are? Usually, by looking at the windows.
This is also confirmed by the height. A floor in Gaza is usually about three
meters.
That's right.
We've noticed that on the 6th floor there's a Hamas member, right?
He has been charged.
But if, on that floor, the information indicates there are four civilians, the Naza for the attack is
four.
Naza four.
What is Naza?
Naza: collateral damage. The number of people who will die in the attack,
as a result of the attack.
It is said: Naza 15.
No one says that 15 people are going to die, let alone that they are going to die
15 children and women. It's called Naza 15.
Do you know what Naza's numbers were?
I don't remember them.
Do you know anyone who knows?
So, let him talk to me, because I really want to understand.
Yes.
Yes, and I don't think so
that he's willing to talk about it.
I'm trying to figure it out, too... Ouch.
In Naza, is there a difference between, say, children, babies, and men?
No.
Is a baby a Naza?
Yes.
Yes.
And I've never had to deal with that.
What's the highest number you can remember in a single attack?
I can't say how many died; no one keeps track of that. But a measure was passed to
five hundred, like, for...
...just one person.
Quinhentos is kind of... it's a small town in the State of Israel.
Yes.
"A video game," we always used to say.
- Really? Did they really say that? - Yeah, it's just like a video game.
- Why a video game? - It's all done remotely.
The number of attacks I remember: 200.
An elderly person: We're not quite sure where he is.
Any place we suspect he passes through on a daily basis, we bomb.
And with large spokes.
Let's say: a man over here, a building over there— we'll attack everything. An entire neighborhood.
At one point, anyone at the Lavender could be bombarded with Naza 20.
Naza 20.
Naza 20.
Naza 20 has suddenly become the benchmark. Very low-ranking Hamas members are being killed
with his finger very, very loose on the trigger, following orders.
But when you authorize the killing of 20 for every junior operative—and there are endless numbers of juniors—
You make it all the way to Gaza. Yes.
Okay.
I myself still don't know what to make of this realization.
Like, sure, yeah.
In practice, that was also why, at a certain point, I just couldn't do it anymore.
I couldn't stay there, and I can't be a part of this.
Well, at least you took part.
- What do you mean? You've been part of this before. - Yes.
Citizens of Israel, we have crushed the enemy with a massive airstrike.
It will be a victory of good over evil, of light over darkness.
In class, we watched a movie about that. It's called *Eye in the Sky*.
There's the offense, which was my role.
They try to convince them that morality exists. I used to tell myself that, too.
There are cases in which they attack someone and see that the person is injured but still alive,
And then, almost always, they just throw another one on top of it.
I don't know if I've ever been happy about killing someone.
In my unit, few people hate Arabs. It's elitist, full of people from Tel Aviv...
There aren't really that many people there who, like, hate Arabs,
- A crazy dehumanization. - But the people you describe, and who
We interviewed people who say they don't hate Arabs, but in my view, they've killed more Arabs
over the past two years.
Yes, I...
What I'm saying is that it's about fulfilling the mission. I mean, that's the mission.
Israel's main military headquarters is located in the heart of Tel Aviv.
Good morning, we are now studying a lesson on Arabic verbs.
A highly bureaucratic program.
Do you work on a computer?
Yes.
You go through training so you can take part in attacks.
All right. A system that contains all the attack targets of the
Air Force.
Is there any building in Gaza whose operation you planned?
I'm sure I was involved, like, in the design of buildings that collapsed.
Do you know how many?
No.
Do you know I'm doing this right now?
Really?
If I make these accusations in public, Israel will put me in jail for revealing them.
I can't think of a more isolated place than a rooftop. Yes.
You see the city, but the city doesn't see you, and, in a way...
He is standing in front of a screen.
Look at it this way: there are other buildings nearby, and this is the one we need to attack.
First, one of the things you receive is the building's dimensions.
This building is 20 meters tall. Actually, it's 15 meters tall.
One of the things they do is count how many floors there are.
How do you know how many floors there are? Usually, by looking at the windows.
This is also confirmed by the height. A floor in Gaza is usually about three
meters.
That's right.
We've noticed that on the 6th floor there's a Hamas member, right?
He has been charged.
But if, on that floor, the information indicates there are four civilians, the Naza responsible for the attack is
four.
Naza four.
What is Naza?
Naza: collateral damage. The number of people who will die in the attack,
as a result of the attack.
It is said: Naza 15.
No one says that 15 people are going to die, let alone that they are going to die
15 children and women. It's called Naza 15.
Do you know what Naza's numbers were?
I don't remember them.
Do you know anyone who knows?
Let him talk to me, because I really want to understand.
Yes.
Yes, and I don't think he's in the mood to talk about that.
I'm trying to figure it out, too.
In Naza, is there a difference between, say, children, babies, and men?
No.
Is a baby a Naza?
Yes, yes.
No.
I've never had to deal with that.
What's the highest number you can remember in a single attack?
I can't say how many died; it's never verified. But 500 were approved,
like, to...
...just one person.
Quinhentos is kind of... it's a small town in the State of Israel.
Yes.
"A video game," we always used to say.
- Really? Did they really say that? - Yeah, it's just like a video game.
It's all done remotely.
The number of attacks I remember: 200.
An elderly person: we're not quite sure where he is. Anywhere we suspect he might be
We bombard everything that happens in our daily lives. And with powerful rays.
Let's say: a man over here, a building over there— we'll attack everything.
An entire neighborhood.
At one point, anyone at the Lavender could be bombarded with Naza 20.
Naza 20.
Naza 20.
Naza 20 has suddenly become the benchmark. Very low-ranking Hamas members are being killed
with his finger very, very loosely on the trigger, following orders.
But when you authorize the killing of 20 people for every junior operative, and there are more
Kids... you'll end up all over Gaza. Yeah.
Right. I don't even know yet what to make of this realization.
In practice, that was also why, at a certain point, I just couldn't do it anymore.
I couldn't stay there, and I can't be a part of this.
- But you've been a part of this before. - Yes.
Citizens of Israel, we have crushed the enemy with a massive airstrike.
It will be a victory of good over evil, of light over darkness.
In class, we watched a movie about that. It's called *Eye in the Sky*.
There's the offense, which was my role.
Yes, that's true.
They go to great lengths to convince them that there is a moral purpose to this.
That's something I used to tell myself, too.
There are cases in which they attack someone and see that the person is injured but still alive,
And then, almost always, they just throw another one on top of it.
I don't know if I've ever been happy about killing someone.
In my unit, few people hate Arabs. It's elitist, full of people from Tel Aviv...
There aren't really that many people there who, like, hate Arabs,
- A crazy dehumanization. - But the people you describe, and who
We interviewed people who say they don't hate Arabs, but in my view, they've killed more Arabs
- over the past two years. - Yes, I...
What I have to say is that it's about fulfilling the mission.
Like, that's the mission.
Israel's main military headquarters is located in the heart of Tel Aviv.
Good morning, we are now studying a lesson on Arabic verbs.
A highly bureaucratic program.
Do you work on a computer?
Yes.
You go through training so you can take part in attacks.
All right. A system that contains all the attack targets of the
Air Force.
Is there any building in Gaza whose operation you planned?
I'm sure I was involved, like, in the design of buildings that collapsed.
Can you say how many?
No.
Do you know I'm doing this right now?
Really?
If I make these accusations in public, Israel will put me in jail for revealing them.
I can't think of a more isolated place than a rooftop. Yes.
You see the city, but the city doesn't see you.
He is standing in front of a screen.
Look at it this way: there are other buildings nearby, and this is the one I have to tackle.
First, one of the things you receive is the building's dimensions.
This building will be 20 meters tall. Actually, it's 15 meters.
One of the things they do is count how many floors there are.
How do you know how many floors there are? Usually, by looking at the windows.
You can also tell by the height.
The standard ceiling height in Gaza is around three meters.
That's right.
We've noticed that on the 6th floor there's a Hamas member, right?
He has been charged.
But if, on that floor, the information indicates there are four civilians, the Naza responsible for the attack is
four.
Naza four.
What is Naza?
Naza: collateral damage. The number of people who will die in the attack,
as a result of the attack.
It is said: Naza 15.
No one says that 15 people are going to die, let alone that they are going to die
15 children and women. It's called Naza 15.
Do you know what Naza's numbers were?
I don't remember them.
Do you know anyone who knows?
Let him talk to me, because I really want to understand.
Yes, and it doesn't look to me like he's in the mood to talk
that.
I'm trying to figure it out, too... Ouch.
In Naza, is there a difference between, say, children, babies, and men?
No.
Is a baby a Naza?
Yes, yes.
Yes.
I've never had to deal with that.
What's the highest number you can remember in a single attack?
I can't say how many died; it's never verified. But there was an approval of
five hundred, like, for...
...just one person.
Quinhentos is kind of... it's a small town in the State of Israel.
Yes.
"A video game," we always used to say.
- Really? Did they really say that? - Yeah, it's just like a video game.
It's all remote.
The number of attacks I remember: 200.
An elderly person: We're not quite sure where he is.
Any place we suspect he passes through on a daily basis, we bomb.
And with large spokes.
Let's say: a man over here, a building over there— we'll attack everything. An entire neighborhood.
At one point, anyone at the Lavender could be bombarded with Naza 20.
Naza 20.
Naza 20.
Naza 20 has suddenly become the benchmark. Very low-ranking Hamas members are being killed
with his finger very, very loose on the trigger, following orders.
But when you authorize the killing of 20 for every junior operative—and there are endless numbers of juniors—
You make it all the way to Gaza. Yes.
Right. I don't even know yet what to make of this realization.
Like, sure, yeah.
In practice, that was also why, at a certain point, I just couldn't be there anymore.
I couldn't stay there, and I can't be a part of this.
Well, at least you took part.
- What do you mean? You've been part of this before. - Yes.
Citizens of Israel, we have crushed the enemy with a massive airstrike.
It will be a victory of good over evil, of light over darkness.
In class, we watched a movie about this, *Eye in the Sky*. There's the attack,
which was my job.
They go to great lengths to convince them that there is a moral purpose to this.
That's something I used to tell myself, too.
There are cases in which they attack someone and see that the person is injured but still alive,
And then, almost always, they just throw another one on top of it.
I don't know if I've ever been happy about killing someone.
In my unit, there aren't many who hate Arabs. Come on, it's an elite unit,
Actually, it's full of people from Tel Aviv... There aren't many people there
that is, like, hateful
- Arabs. A crazy dehumanization. - But the people you describe, and who
we interviewed, who say they don't hate Arabs,
were, in my opinion, the ones that killed the most Arabs
- over the past two years. - Yes.
What I have to say is that it's about fulfilling the mission.
Like, that's the mission.
Israel's main military headquarters is located in the heart of Tel Aviv.
Good morning, we are now studying a lesson on Arabic verbs.
A highly bureaucratic program.
Do you work on a computer?
Yes.
You go through training so you can take part in attacks.
All right. A system that contains all the attack targets of the
Air Force.
Is there any building in Gaza whose operation you planned?
Ah...
Sure...
...I was, like, involved in the planning of buildings that collapsed.
Do you know how many?
No.
Do you know I'm doing this right now?
Really?
If I make these accusations in public, Israel will put me in jail for revealing them.
I can't think of a more isolated place than a rooftop. Yes.
You see the city, but the city doesn't see you, and, in a way...
He is standing in front of a screen.
Look at it this way: there are other buildings nearby, and this is the one we need to attack.
First, one of the things you receive is the building's dimensions.
This building will be 20 meters tall. Actually, it's 15 meters.
One of the things they do is count how many floors there are.
How do you know how many floors there are? Usually, by looking at the windows.
This is also confirmed by the height. A floor in Gaza is usually about three meters high.
That's it.
We've noticed that on the 6th floor there's a Hamas member, right?
He has been charged.
But if, on that floor, the information indicates there are four civilians, the Naza responsible for the attack
It's four.
Naza four.
What is Naza?
Naza: collateral damage. The number of people who will die in the attack as a result
of the attack. They say "Naza 15." They don't say that 15 people are going to die,
let alone that 15 children and women will die.
It's called Naza 15. Do you know what they were?
Naza's numbers?
I don't remember them.
Do you know anyone who knows?
So, let him talk to me, because I really want to understand.
Yes, and it doesn't look to me like he's in the mood to talk
that.
I'm trying to figure it out, too... Ouch.
In Naza, is there a difference between, say, children, babies, and men?
No.
Is a baby a Naza?
Yes.
Yes.
And I've never had to deal with that.
What's the highest number you can remember in a single attack?
I can't say how many died; it's never verified. But there was an approval of
five hundred, like,
for one person.
Quinhentos is kind of... it's a small town in the State of Israel.
Yes.
"A video game," we always used to say.
- Really? Did they really say that? - Yeah, it's just like a video game.
- Why a video game? - It's all done remotely.
The number of attacks I remember: 200.
An elderly person: we're not quite sure where he is. Anywhere we suspect he might be
We bombard everything that happens in our daily lives. And with powerful rays.
Let's say: a man over here, a building over there— we'll attack everything. An entire neighborhood.
At one point, anyone at the Lavender could be bombarded with Naza 20.
Naza 20.
Naza 20.
Naza 20 has suddenly become the benchmark. Very low-ranking Hamas members are being killed
with his finger very, very loose on the trigger, following orders.
But when you authorize the killing of 20 people for every junior operative, and there are more
Kids... you'll end up all over Gaza. Yeah.
Right. I don't even know yet what to make of this realization.
In practice, that was also why, at a certain point, I just couldn't be there anymore.
I couldn't stay there, and I can't be a part of this.
- But you've been a part of this before. - Yes.
Citizens of Israel, we have crushed the enemy with a massive airstrike.
It will be a victory of good over evil, of light over darkness.
In class, we watched a movie about this, *Eye in the Sky*. There's the attack,
which was my job.
They try to convince them that morality exists. I used to tell myself that, too.
There are cases in which they attack someone and see that the person has been injured,
but I'm still alive, so,
Most of the time, they just throw another one on top of it.
I don't know if I've ever been happy about killing someone.
In my unit, there aren't many who hate Arabs. Come on, it's an elite unit,
Actually, it's full of people from Tel Aviv... There aren't many people there
that is, like, hateful
- Arabs. A crazy dehumanization. - But the people you describe, and who
we interviewed, who say they don't hate Arabs,
were, in my opinion, the ones that killed the most Arabs
over the past two years.
Yes.
What I'm saying is that it's about fulfilling the mission. I mean, that's the mission.
Israel's main military headquarters is located in the heart of Tel Aviv.
Good morning, we are now studying a lesson on Arabic verbs.
A highly bureaucratic program.
Do you work on a computer?
Yes.
You go through training so you can take part in attacks.
All right. It's a system that contains all the attack targets of the
Air Force.
Is there any building in Gaza whose operation you planned?
I'm sure I was involved, like, in the design of buildings that collapsed.
Can you say how many?
No.
Do you know I'm doing this right now?
Really?
If I make these accusations in public, Israel will put me in jail for revealing them.
I can't think of a more isolated place than a rooftop. Yes.
You see the city, but the city doesn't see you, and, in a way...
He is standing in front of a screen.
Look at it this way: there are other buildings nearby, and this is the one we need to attack.
First, one of the things you receive is the building's dimensions.
This building will be 20 meters tall. Actually, it's 15 meters.
One of the things they do is count how many floors there are.
How do you know how many floors there are? Usually, by looking at the windows.
This is also confirmed by the height. A floor in Gaza is usually about three meters high.
That's it.
We realize there's someone from Hamas on the 6th floor, right? He's implicated.
But if, on that floor, the information indicates there are four civilians, the Naza responsible for the attack
It's four.
Naza four.
What is Naza?
Naza: collateral damage. The number of people who will die in the attack,
as a result of the attack.
It is said: Naza 15.
No one says that 15 people are going to die, let alone that they are going to die
15 children and women. It's called Naza 15.
Do you know what Naza's numbers were?
I don't remember them.
Do you know anyone who knows?
So, let him talk to me, because I really want to understand.
Yes, and I don't think he's in the mood to talk about that.
I'm trying to figure it out, too... Ouch.
Let's look at the shots: these are from Gaza, this is the sky over Gaza, and this is the sky over...
...Tel Aviv.
Israel continues to kill Palestinian civilians in Gaza.
Directed by: Yuval Abraham and Rachel Szor.
Produced by Harry Davies, Lindsay Poulton, and James Wilson.
Executive producers: Glazer, Lewis, and Jackson.
Photography: Anonymous and Rachel Szor. Editing: Abraham, Szor, and Davies.
This film is based on revelations published between 2023 and 2025,
by +972 Magazine, Local Call, and The Guardian.
Sound and visual effects.
Color and post-production.
Consultants.
mk2 Films.
File credits.
Acknowledgments.
This film was produced at the Close Up studio.
© The Guardian, 2026.
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