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♪ ♪
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- My husband was one
of the good officers.
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He was one of the good ones.
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- He had a reputation of
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really being
an excellent police officer.
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- All of these crimes
interrelate in some way.
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- He was super cop.
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He was the family man,
devoted father,
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good friend, good neighbor.
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- I never heard anything
negative about Joel Kern.
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- And then I got a text that
completely changed my life.
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- He was clocking in and then
going to have sex with people.
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- In his cop car
while on duty.
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- Can't believe how good he was
at keeping these secrets,
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having the two faces
of Joel Kern.
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- He had no problem
manipulating family,
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friends, colleagues.
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Never, did I ever think
my husband would ever
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want any harm on me, ever.
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♪ ♪
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- Can you tell me
a little bit about
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how you found the podcast?
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- My daughter, Nicole, was
scheduled for orientation
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her freshman year of college
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and we're driving and
doing the road trip thing.
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And she put on
"Betrayal" season one.
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The podcast had really
struck a chord with me.
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I went through this
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and I've never been able
to talk about it.
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To think that
every one of these women
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were living in such isolation
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and shame and fear as a result
of someone else's actions.
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To find the power from that
pain, it was so inspiring.
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My name is Karoline Borega.
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I grew up in Colorado Springs.
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It's beautiful, it's gorgeous,
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and everybody is super gracious
and super kind.
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I've always been this, like,
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eclectic kind of hippie kid.
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I enjoyed being
outside with friends
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and doing Colorado kid stuff.
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- When she started college,
she knew exactly
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what she was going to do
and she went after it.
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- I really knew
I wanted to do something
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in a social work-type field.
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I knew I wanted to help people.
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And so I went to school just
about two hours away from home
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at University of
Northern Colorado.
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She was very
driven and focused,
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but also, she was a lot
of fun to be around.
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She is one of those people
that is just fiercely loyal
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and loves hard.
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- When I was coming
toward the end
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of my undergraduate studies,
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I was offered a job for
a victim advocate position
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for the police department.
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One of the things on
the training sheet
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was to complete a ride-along
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with the Colorado Springs
Police Department.
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I show up at the
police department
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and this cop comes out
to see me.
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And he says that
the first thing
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we're going to do tonight
is sit through a lineup,
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just a briefing that happens
before every shift.
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- It's really cold and sterile
and no one's saying hi to her.
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And she was really nervous.
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- Next thing you know,
there's this disruption.
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This incredibly tall,
very young, very handsome,
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with this sandy blonde hair,
hot mess express.
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He's holding a clipboard
in his left hand
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and paperwork
is spilling out over it.
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It's instant comic relief.
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Like, that weight and
sterile feeling in the room
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just completely lifted.
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Even the sergeant's like, OK,
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I guess we can get started
once Joel finds his seat.
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And so he sits down.
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And we locked eyes with
each other and it was magnetic.
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We finish up lineup and as
we're walking over to the exit,
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Joel comes, like,
running over.
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He said, so don't forget,
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I'm your sector partner
tonight.
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- The cop that Karoline was
doing the ride-along with
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was like, this is Joel Kern.
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He's clearly trying
to get close to you.
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Just shaking his hand--
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it was like lightning
went through me.
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I had never felt like that
in my life.
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- Throughout the whole shift,
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Joel was just trying
to impress Karoline.
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Until the end of the shift.
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As I'm walking to my car...
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I hear these footsteps
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kind of running after me,
and it's Joel.
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And he's got a little bit
of an audience behind him.
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He's like, hey, I really
enjoyed meeting you tonight.
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I know that you're new in town
and I'd love to show you
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like, some of my
favorite spots around town.
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And I see the audience
behind him.
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I'm like, I don't need to
be shown around this town.
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I grew up here.
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And you hear them laughing
in the background.
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And he said, well,
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I'll just leave you
with my business card
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and I guess
the ball's in your court.
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I drive home and my mom
was waiting up for me.
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And she's like, OK,
tell me about the night.
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And I said, well, I met
the man I'm going to marry.
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And she said,
Jesus Christ, Karoline.
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It better not be a cop.
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And I started laughing.
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And when I wake up,
I pick up the business card
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and I call him and I leave
a message on his voicemail.
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I really did grow up here,
but I would still love to see
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all of your favorite spots
in town.
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20, 30 minutes
at the most went by.
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And the house line rang.
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And Joel said, what took
you so long to call me?
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So we start talking
and he was like,
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so what are we doing tonight?
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And I said, well, we
aren't doing anything
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because we're having
family dinner.
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And so he's like, well,
I like Sunday family dinners.
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So Joel comes over.
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My parents were
so cold to him
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and he handled it with charm
and grace and like a champion.
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And we finish up dinner
and he's like, did I earn it?
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Can I take you on
a real date now?
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And so Joel and I left.
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♪ ♪
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We had this great night and
then we had our first kiss.
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After that first night,
we became inseparable.
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I was only 22.
He was only 24.
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It was a very special time
in life.
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- When I first met him,
he was just friendly
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and outgoing and welcoming.
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- He was jovial, funny, a
really easy person to talk to.
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You felt the love
that Joel had for Karoline.
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He adored her.
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♪ ♪
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We had been dating
for about three years
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and one night, we were
getting ready to go somewhere.
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And I turned around
and Joel had a ring.
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♪ ♪
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When you get married
in the Catholic Church,
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you have to go through
what's called Pre-Cana,
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which is essentially
premarital counseling.
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One of the
conversations that we had
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was deal-breakers
in a marriage.
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And I said to him,
I have two rules.
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Don't ever lay a hand on me.
Don't ever cheat on me.
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And he told me
that's more than fair.
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I agree with you.
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♪ ♪
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We got married in
a beautiful Catholic Church
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and we had a wedding
of about 150 people.
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And it was by candlelight
and it was stunning.
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♪ ♪
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And then a huge
reception afterwards
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and our wedding song was
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Eric Clapton's
"Wonderful Tonight."
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- ♪ And I say yes ♪
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♪ You look wonderful tonight ♪
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- We had a fantastic
night of just dancing
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and having a great time.
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♪ ♪
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After we got married,
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I needed to send
a thank you note to my aunt.
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We got married in 2001
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and my aunt had just
gotten an email account.
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And I'm trying to log on
to my email account
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and it's not connecting.
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And I see that his
email account is minimized,
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so I bring it up.
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And I thought, oh,
this will work out perfect.
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So I fire off
the thank you note.
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And as I'm sitting there,
I see Joel's email account.
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♪ ♪
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And I'm looking at some
of the preview lines.
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And I can see that
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he has been corresponding
with a childhood friend.
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And some of the preview lines
are so inappropriate.
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♪ ♪
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Enough to make me double click
and open them up.
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♪ ♪
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And the two of them
are talking about
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what it would have been like if
they had ever gotten together.
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And then it progresses to say
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what it would have been
like to have been able
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to connect before he and I got
married when she was in town.
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- Has he violated
one of the two things
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that she asked him never to do?
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Has Joel already betrayed her?
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Karoline is devastated.
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She is seeing these
inappropriate email exchanges
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between Joel and his friend.
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- And I grabbed a pen
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and I wrote
on this cocktail napkin,
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saw this on your email.
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Very angry.
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♪ ♪
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And I taped the cocktail
napkin to the computer screen.
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♪ ♪
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And I left.
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And I drove over
to my parents' house.
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And after some de-escalation,
my mom said,
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you're married now
and you need to go handle this.
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♪ ♪
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And I drove home and he was
on his knees and crying.
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And I said,
how could you do this to me?
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And he starts saying how
it was just for attention.
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He would never
follow through with it.
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I will do anything
to show you that
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this was the dumbest thing
I could have done.
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♪ ♪
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- The next morning,
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Joel suggests that
they go to couples counseling.
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And in fact, he's already
made an appointment,
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and Karoline is
encouraged by this.
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One of the
things that was brought up
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was some pretty significant
childhood trauma.
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♪ ♪
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And he had admitted
that the trauma
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was never really addressed.
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♪ ♪
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And we talked about stressful
things that he had seen
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as a result of being
a police officer,
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and that him sending
an email like this
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could have been just
a deflection or a way to cope.
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At least this didn't
go anywhere besides an email.
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And fast forward
after that moment,
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we hadn't even
been married a year
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and I found out I was pregnant.
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And I showed him
the pregnancy test.
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He said,
I've been waiting for this.
262
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I've always wanted to be a dad.
263
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And we were so happy.
264
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So you can see
the baby's coming along.
265
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And then we have a little
crib deal set up for the baby.
266
00:14:12,393 --> 00:14:15,146
- It felt like this
was just something
267
00:14:15,146 --> 00:14:17,857
that was going to bring us
together again.
268
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And it did.
It absolutely did.
269
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- During the pregnancy,
Karoline and Joel decide
270
00:14:26,074 --> 00:14:29,952
that Joel's career is going
to be the priority
271
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so that he can advance
and provide for the family.
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♪ ♪
273
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- He's going to be
a good big brother.
274
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Our son was born in 2003.
275
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He was just perfect.
Just perfect.
276
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And just a little over
a year and a half later,
277
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I knew that
I was pregnant again.
278
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Nicole was born in 2005.
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Perfect, gorgeous,
beautiful baby girl.
280
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- You look just like
your big brother, buddy.
281
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Yes.
282
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And I knew that
she completed us.
283
00:15:09,784 --> 00:15:12,328
Just five days after
Nicole's birth,
284
00:15:12,328 --> 00:15:16,374
Joel learned that he was going
to be promoted to sergeant.
285
00:15:16,374 --> 00:15:19,252
He was at the time
the youngest sergeant.
286
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Walk to Mama.
287
00:15:22,547 --> 00:15:23,756
Ooh.
288
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From a family standpoint,
289
00:15:25,466 --> 00:15:28,386
the promotion was difficult
in the sense that
290
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he went onto a midnight shift.
291
00:15:30,138 --> 00:15:32,140
But the pride that
I felt for him
292
00:15:32,140 --> 00:15:33,891
and all what
he had accomplished
293
00:15:33,891 --> 00:15:36,352
at such a young age, I mean,
it was incredible.
294
00:15:39,730 --> 00:15:43,818
- The schedule was based off
of him and his work schedule.
295
00:15:43,818 --> 00:15:45,570
We celebrated
all the holidays,
296
00:15:45,570 --> 00:15:47,113
birthdays at the station too.
297
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But I had a nice childhood,
I would say.
298
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♪ ♪
299
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It's like a pure middle-class
300
00:15:55,997 --> 00:15:59,000
suburban upbringing.
301
00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,335
- Karoline's son wants
to prioritize his privacy,
302
00:16:01,335 --> 00:16:03,796
but he has a lot to share
and a lot to say.
303
00:16:03,796 --> 00:16:07,049
And I spoke to him for hours
for the podcast.
304
00:16:07,049 --> 00:16:08,759
And so while
you won't see him,
305
00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:10,511
you're going to hear pieces
of that conversation.
306
00:16:10,511 --> 00:16:13,222
♪ ♪
307
00:16:13,222 --> 00:16:14,682
My sister and I,
308
00:16:14,682 --> 00:16:17,685
we were high achievers
in school.
309
00:16:17,685 --> 00:16:21,898
- We were super competitive
with academics and sports.
310
00:16:21,898 --> 00:16:24,650
And I think my mom
really, like,
311
00:16:24,650 --> 00:16:26,485
ingrained excellence in us.
312
00:16:26,485 --> 00:16:27,904
♪ ♪
313
00:16:27,904 --> 00:16:31,073
And even though
Joel is working odd hours,
314
00:16:31,073 --> 00:16:33,910
he's still making time
to be there for his kids
315
00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:36,954
and to foster that sense
of excellence.
316
00:16:36,954 --> 00:16:38,497
Joel signed up to be a leader
317
00:16:38,497 --> 00:16:40,249
for our son's Cub Scouts.
318
00:16:40,249 --> 00:16:42,293
And after our son announced
319
00:16:42,293 --> 00:16:46,339
that he wanted to try his hand
at lacrosse,
320
00:16:46,339 --> 00:16:49,050
Joel volunteered himself
to be one of the coaches.
321
00:16:49,050 --> 00:16:51,260
Go, go, go, go!
322
00:16:51,260 --> 00:16:52,261
Yes!
323
00:16:52,261 --> 00:16:53,846
And then our daughter,
324
00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:56,724
she played for a national team
and would travel.
325
00:16:56,724 --> 00:16:58,059
And we agreed that
326
00:16:58,059 --> 00:17:00,811
we'll turn these events
into family vacations.
327
00:17:03,814 --> 00:17:06,400
To watch him
embrace fatherhood,
328
00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,444
I mean, it was fantastic.
329
00:17:08,444 --> 00:17:09,695
- What do I do?
330
00:17:09,695 --> 00:17:11,530
Just pull it up.
Don't reel it that tight.
331
00:17:11,530 --> 00:17:12,907
OK, I'll help you.
332
00:17:12,907 --> 00:17:14,533
- Ugh! It's so gross.
333
00:17:14,533 --> 00:17:16,369
Oh, my gosh, it's so gross.
334
00:17:16,369 --> 00:17:19,121
Camping trips and
being able to mountain bike,
335
00:17:19,121 --> 00:17:21,749
he loved every second of it.
336
00:17:21,749 --> 00:17:23,417
We would always talk
about getting an RV,
337
00:17:23,417 --> 00:17:25,670
and then finally, we did.
338
00:17:25,670 --> 00:17:27,838
♪ ♪
339
00:17:27,838 --> 00:17:32,593
- Our lives have changed
so much, but...
340
00:17:32,593 --> 00:17:36,264
we still have those memories,
you know?
341
00:17:39,684 --> 00:17:45,064
♪ ♪
342
00:17:45,064 --> 00:17:47,817
- Hey.
- Hello.
343
00:17:47,817 --> 00:17:49,819
You ready to do this?
- Yeah.
344
00:17:49,819 --> 00:17:50,861
- OK.
345
00:17:50,861 --> 00:17:52,071
- I'm excited,
but a little nervous
346
00:17:52,071 --> 00:17:53,197
'cause I don't think
I've really seen
347
00:17:53,197 --> 00:17:54,699
a lot of photos of your family.
348
00:17:54,699 --> 00:17:58,828
♪ ♪
349
00:17:58,828 --> 00:18:00,121
Oh, my gosh.
350
00:18:00,121 --> 00:18:01,539
What's this story?
351
00:18:01,539 --> 00:18:02,790
Looks like a mug shot.
352
00:18:02,790 --> 00:18:04,625
That's the Joel Kern I met.
353
00:18:04,625 --> 00:18:07,295
- I look at that and I see--
I see your son.
354
00:18:07,295 --> 00:18:08,546
- Yeah.
- Mm-hmm.
355
00:18:08,546 --> 00:18:09,964
- And there are moments where
I see you, too.
356
00:18:09,964 --> 00:18:12,383
- Mm-hmm.
- Is that hard?
357
00:18:12,383 --> 00:18:13,884
- It is kind of weird
to think, like,
358
00:18:13,884 --> 00:18:17,096
I have my dad's hair color
and I have his eyebrows
359
00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:19,181
and I have his eye color.
360
00:18:19,181 --> 00:18:21,517
- Like, I see myself in my dad.
- Yeah.
361
00:18:21,517 --> 00:18:25,021
♪ ♪
362
00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,692
Almost every night, we would
FaceTime to say good night.
363
00:18:29,692 --> 00:18:32,236
Me, you know, at home in bed,
364
00:18:32,236 --> 00:18:37,033
having no idea all what he was
doing while I was at home.
365
00:18:39,660 --> 00:18:41,037
♪ ♪
366
00:18:41,037 --> 00:18:43,372
That's when
I had to get hospitalized.
367
00:18:43,372 --> 00:18:45,541
I can remember
how terrified I was that week.
368
00:18:45,541 --> 00:18:46,876
She had sepsis, and so
369
00:18:46,876 --> 00:18:49,045
she was in Children's Hospital
for about a week.
370
00:18:49,045 --> 00:18:52,632
He had said,
it's just a really bad time.
371
00:18:52,632 --> 00:18:55,301
I'll come by when I can.
372
00:18:55,301 --> 00:18:57,511
♪ ♪
373
00:18:57,511 --> 00:18:58,638
I remember this day.
374
00:18:58,638 --> 00:19:00,514
I'd been with Nicole
for a couple days.
375
00:19:00,514 --> 00:19:03,476
He was working some
really crazy hours.
376
00:19:03,476 --> 00:19:04,769
And I asked him, I said,
377
00:19:04,769 --> 00:19:07,313
could you just come by so
I could just grab a shower,
378
00:19:07,313 --> 00:19:08,689
get a change of clothes?
379
00:19:08,689 --> 00:19:11,025
And, you know, he's like,
OK, I'll figure it out.
380
00:19:11,025 --> 00:19:13,527
At the time I thought, oh,
thank goodness he's come by
381
00:19:13,527 --> 00:19:15,654
and he's able to see her and--
382
00:19:15,654 --> 00:19:17,615
but this picture's time-stamped
383
00:19:17,615 --> 00:19:21,285
and that same day
I have time stamps of him
384
00:19:21,285 --> 00:19:24,413
exchanging messages
with someone.
385
00:19:24,413 --> 00:19:26,832
Where he made arrangements
to meet them.
386
00:19:26,832 --> 00:19:28,793
He was doing things
that were dishonest
387
00:19:28,793 --> 00:19:30,252
and deceitful to our family
388
00:19:30,252 --> 00:19:32,380
and to our marriage
while we were there.
389
00:19:32,380 --> 00:19:35,466
This picture infuriates me now.
390
00:19:37,885 --> 00:19:39,804
♪ ♪
391
00:19:39,804 --> 00:19:43,933
Prom dress shopping.
392
00:19:43,933 --> 00:19:46,894
This is a man who's
smiling with his daughter
393
00:19:46,894 --> 00:19:48,270
in this stunning dress.
394
00:19:48,270 --> 00:19:49,980
♪ ♪
395
00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:54,110
Would you guess that
he is the same person
396
00:19:54,110 --> 00:19:56,987
that knows
he's under investigation,
397
00:19:56,987 --> 00:19:59,156
has been for over two months?
398
00:19:59,156 --> 00:20:03,327
And I didn't know.
399
00:20:03,327 --> 00:20:05,704
Does that look
and smile depict,
400
00:20:05,704 --> 00:20:10,209
I'm going to change this
little girl's life forever?
401
00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:13,087
♪ ♪
402
00:20:13,087 --> 00:20:17,842
- All pictures of my dad,
whenever I see my dad,
403
00:20:17,842 --> 00:20:21,345
it's just--
it's tainted now.
404
00:20:21,345 --> 00:20:27,685
♪ ♪
405
00:20:32,606 --> 00:20:35,901
- My dad was such
a figure in our community.
406
00:20:35,901 --> 00:20:38,028
This is horrible.
407
00:20:38,028 --> 00:20:40,448
I admired
the sacrifices made
408
00:20:40,448 --> 00:20:44,660
and the nobility
of the profession.
409
00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:48,372
- We had articles and plaques
410
00:20:48,372 --> 00:20:52,835
and awards hanging up in our
house dedicated toward him.
411
00:20:52,835 --> 00:20:56,046
My office that
Karoline decorated.
412
00:20:56,046 --> 00:20:57,923
And then there's the computer.
413
00:20:57,923 --> 00:20:59,842
There's Karoline.
414
00:20:59,842 --> 00:21:03,804
And then she put my awards
in the room like that.
415
00:21:03,804 --> 00:21:08,559
- He even started jokingly
calling it the love me room.
416
00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:11,687
- Even during times of
tension and scrutiny
417
00:21:11,687 --> 00:21:13,272
surrounding the police,
418
00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:15,149
Joel stood out
as one of the good ones.
419
00:21:17,943 --> 00:21:21,447
- Black man being detained
by a white police officer
420
00:21:21,447 --> 00:21:24,074
died following that
violent arrest.
421
00:21:24,074 --> 00:21:25,743
After George Floyd's death,
422
00:21:25,743 --> 00:21:30,039
there were protests everywhere,
including Colorado Springs.
423
00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:33,000
And they got pretty intense.
424
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,503
Joel was
in charge of overseeing
425
00:21:35,503 --> 00:21:39,757
all the protest response
for CSPD.
426
00:21:39,757 --> 00:21:41,717
♪ ♪
427
00:21:41,717 --> 00:21:43,177
- There were times where
he was working
428
00:21:43,177 --> 00:21:46,430
16, 17, 18 hours,
and he was gone.
429
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:51,310
When he would come home,
he would start to say,
430
00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:53,103
you know, look, like,
this is where people were
431
00:21:53,103 --> 00:21:55,189
throwing frozen water bottles
last night.
432
00:21:55,189 --> 00:21:57,900
This is where I got hit.
Look at this bruise.
433
00:21:57,900 --> 00:21:59,151
Look at this.
434
00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:00,528
Someone was throwing rocks
last night.
435
00:22:00,528 --> 00:22:03,906
Little did I know all what
he was doing on that shift.
436
00:22:03,906 --> 00:22:07,535
♪ ♪
437
00:22:07,535 --> 00:22:09,912
- The admiration
wasn't just at home.
438
00:22:09,912 --> 00:22:12,122
Joel was well-respected
by his colleagues.
439
00:22:12,122 --> 00:22:15,793
♪ ♪
440
00:22:15,793 --> 00:22:19,713
- Joel came across
as very easygoing,
441
00:22:19,713 --> 00:22:22,508
well-spoken, well-dressed.
442
00:22:22,508 --> 00:22:26,262
He definitely looked like
he had his shit together.
443
00:22:26,262 --> 00:22:27,930
He had a reputation
444
00:22:27,930 --> 00:22:30,641
of really being an excellent
police officer
445
00:22:30,641 --> 00:22:35,604
that took his responsibilities
seriously.
446
00:22:35,604 --> 00:22:39,275
He was Super Cop.
I respected him immediately.
447
00:22:39,275 --> 00:22:41,235
He was clean-cut,
he was professional.
448
00:22:41,235 --> 00:22:44,446
I never heard anything
negative about Joel Kern.
449
00:22:44,446 --> 00:22:45,906
I looked to him as a mentor.
450
00:22:45,906 --> 00:22:49,493
♪ ♪
451
00:22:49,493 --> 00:22:51,912
- Around 2011, 2012,
452
00:22:51,912 --> 00:22:55,749
he had an opportunity to be
an internal affairs sergeant.
453
00:22:55,749 --> 00:22:58,669
- I kind of look at it now
like I'm the palace guard,
454
00:22:58,669 --> 00:23:02,506
if that makes sense, to help
keep the department right.
455
00:23:02,506 --> 00:23:05,509
- His superiors really
did think highly of him
456
00:23:05,509 --> 00:23:07,261
and felt that he was capable
457
00:23:07,261 --> 00:23:10,222
of taking on those leadership
roles in the department.
458
00:23:10,222 --> 00:23:12,391
- I spent nine
years on midnights
459
00:23:12,391 --> 00:23:15,519
and I had two young kids.
460
00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:17,271
So I finally had
to make a decision.
461
00:23:17,271 --> 00:23:19,773
You know what?
I want to be home at night.
462
00:23:19,773 --> 00:23:21,734
I want to be home
on the weekends.
463
00:23:21,734 --> 00:23:24,486
An IE opening popped up
and I went there
464
00:23:24,486 --> 00:23:26,113
'cause I'm home at night
and I'm home on the weekends.
465
00:23:29,116 --> 00:23:32,328
♪ ♪
466
00:23:32,328 --> 00:23:37,374
- There are very few events and
times that Joel took off work.
467
00:23:37,374 --> 00:23:42,504
But he took off when
my dad was sick.
468
00:23:42,504 --> 00:23:45,299
♪ ♪
469
00:23:45,299 --> 00:23:50,179
And he spent the weeks
470
00:23:50,179 --> 00:23:51,847
of the end of my dad's life
with him.
471
00:23:51,847 --> 00:23:54,350
♪ ♪
472
00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:58,062
He was there for my mom, too.
473
00:23:58,062 --> 00:24:00,481
Five years after
my dad passed away,
474
00:24:00,481 --> 00:24:03,525
my mom was diagnosed
with lung cancer.
475
00:24:03,525 --> 00:24:08,197
And Joel volunteered
to take her to chemo.
476
00:24:08,197 --> 00:24:12,952
And in middle
of December of 2016,
477
00:24:12,952 --> 00:24:16,413
I was at work
and my cell phone rang.
478
00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:18,540
♪ ♪
479
00:24:18,540 --> 00:24:23,712
And he said, there's just
nothing they can do for her.
480
00:24:23,712 --> 00:24:28,008
And I drove to my mom's house.
She was laying in her bed.
481
00:24:28,008 --> 00:24:31,011
♪ ♪
482
00:24:31,011 --> 00:24:32,388
And Joel was holding her hand
483
00:24:32,388 --> 00:24:35,307
and was, like,
stroking her hair.
484
00:24:37,935 --> 00:24:41,522
And he was there
the day she died.
485
00:24:44,525 --> 00:24:47,027
♪ ♪
486
00:24:47,027 --> 00:24:50,572
And my mom loved
and trusted him so much
487
00:24:50,572 --> 00:24:54,284
that she left him as
the executor of her will.
488
00:24:54,284 --> 00:24:56,954
♪ ♪
489
00:24:56,954 --> 00:24:58,747
And one of the things
that was passed to me
490
00:24:58,747 --> 00:25:02,084
was this rental property,
and I wanted to sell it.
491
00:25:02,084 --> 00:25:05,295
And he told me,
this is passive income.
492
00:25:05,295 --> 00:25:07,172
You don't have to do anything
with this house.
493
00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:09,216
I will handle
everything with it.
494
00:25:09,216 --> 00:25:16,223
♪ ♪
495
00:25:17,433 --> 00:25:18,934
It's the blue one right here.
496
00:25:18,934 --> 00:25:21,478
Oh, wow.
497
00:25:21,478 --> 00:25:23,147
I did not want this house.
498
00:25:25,315 --> 00:25:26,692
We had this discussion of,
499
00:25:26,692 --> 00:25:28,402
it's been in your family
for this amount of time.
500
00:25:28,402 --> 00:25:29,737
Let's just keep it.
501
00:25:29,737 --> 00:25:30,988
You don't even have
to step foot in there
502
00:25:30,988 --> 00:25:31,989
if you don't want to.
503
00:25:31,989 --> 00:25:35,284
♪ ♪
504
00:25:35,284 --> 00:25:36,952
- He did hold up his end
of the bargain.
505
00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:38,245
- He did.
- He did.
506
00:25:38,245 --> 00:25:39,455
He made sure to take
care of the house,
507
00:25:39,455 --> 00:25:41,248
deal with the tenants.
508
00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:46,795
But instead of
doing exactly what was asked
509
00:25:46,795 --> 00:25:49,715
of him by my mom, my dying mom,
510
00:25:49,715 --> 00:25:55,095
he used this as another
platform for his deviance.
511
00:25:55,095 --> 00:25:58,015
♪ ♪
512
00:26:03,937 --> 00:26:06,315
♪ ♪
513
00:26:06,315 --> 00:26:08,192
Around 2016, Joel came home
514
00:26:08,192 --> 00:26:10,402
and he was like,
I've been offered to step in
515
00:26:10,402 --> 00:26:12,488
as the interim
public information officer
516
00:26:12,488 --> 00:26:14,364
with the Colorado Springs
Police Department.
517
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:19,703
- The public information
officer, or the PIO,
518
00:26:19,703 --> 00:26:21,789
is the spokesperson
for the police department.
519
00:26:21,789 --> 00:26:26,126
And they have a close working
relationship with the media.
520
00:26:26,126 --> 00:26:29,671
I mean, what a
great professional accolade.
521
00:26:29,671 --> 00:26:33,467
And he assumed the role.
522
00:26:33,467 --> 00:26:34,843
Normally in
these types of crimes,
523
00:26:34,843 --> 00:26:39,223
it is very complicated,
very intensive investigations.
524
00:26:39,223 --> 00:26:40,933
- He did fantastic with it
525
00:26:40,933 --> 00:26:44,853
and you could tell
Joel loved the role.
526
00:26:44,853 --> 00:26:46,939
When you say a million
dollars' worth of jewelry,
527
00:26:46,939 --> 00:26:49,566
some people might think
that that suitcase is full.
528
00:26:49,566 --> 00:26:52,778
However, it could be
valuable jewelry that's small.
529
00:26:52,778 --> 00:26:54,071
- I thought it was really cool
530
00:26:54,071 --> 00:26:56,907
that I was able to see my dad
on the news.
531
00:26:56,907 --> 00:26:59,827
- The sales of spice have
dropped off dramatically.
532
00:26:59,827 --> 00:27:02,162
- We would be walking
through the grocery store
533
00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:03,705
and someone would stop
and recognize him.
534
00:27:03,705 --> 00:27:05,791
And you could see him beam.
535
00:27:05,791 --> 00:27:09,503
He loved the recognition
for it.
536
00:27:09,503 --> 00:27:14,508
♪ ♪
537
00:27:14,508 --> 00:27:18,512
Joel had been the interim PIO
for maybe half a year,
538
00:27:18,512 --> 00:27:20,722
but it's meant
for a lieutenant.
539
00:27:20,722 --> 00:27:24,351
♪ ♪
540
00:27:24,351 --> 00:27:29,648
Mid-2018, he was selected
for the position of lieutenant.
541
00:27:29,648 --> 00:27:33,193
The person who was the PIO
was going to retire.
542
00:27:33,193 --> 00:27:39,241
♪ ♪
543
00:27:39,241 --> 00:27:41,076
He interviewed
and came home and said,
544
00:27:41,076 --> 00:27:42,870
I feel fantastic about it.
545
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:44,997
And we were all just waiting
on pins and needles.
546
00:27:44,997 --> 00:27:46,707
and I remember when
he got the call.
547
00:27:46,707 --> 00:27:51,628
♪ ♪
548
00:27:51,628 --> 00:27:55,465
I knew how excited he was,
and we were excited as a family
549
00:27:55,465 --> 00:27:59,469
because we knew
he loved that role.
550
00:27:59,469 --> 00:28:02,389
It was really, really
an exciting time.
551
00:28:05,392 --> 00:28:06,852
♪ ♪
552
00:28:06,852 --> 00:28:10,856
- Just weeks before Joel starts
his permanent PIO job,
553
00:28:10,856 --> 00:28:13,775
he comes home
and he's acting strangely.
554
00:28:13,775 --> 00:28:16,862
♪ ♪
555
00:28:16,862 --> 00:28:21,158
And I can feel
the tension from him.
556
00:28:21,158 --> 00:28:23,035
I said, are you OK?
557
00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:27,497
And he said no.
I'm not going to get PIO.
558
00:28:27,497 --> 00:28:29,791
The chief came
into our shift last night
559
00:28:29,791 --> 00:28:33,003
and I had a blow-up with him
and then the chief decided
560
00:28:33,003 --> 00:28:35,505
that he was taking away PIO
from him.
561
00:28:35,505 --> 00:28:38,133
♪ ♪
562
00:28:38,133 --> 00:28:42,721
I said, you and the
chief of police got into it?
563
00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:46,058
♪ ♪
564
00:28:46,058 --> 00:28:48,226
I could not
wrap my head around it.
565
00:28:48,226 --> 00:28:51,396
I'm like, who are you?
566
00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:53,440
- Joel would never do this.
567
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,733
She knew something
wasn't right.
568
00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,027
♪ ♪
569
00:28:57,027 --> 00:29:01,949
But little did she know
Joel was under investigation.
570
00:29:01,949 --> 00:29:03,325
♪ ♪
571
00:29:03,325 --> 00:29:05,661
Joel had worked closely
with a reporter
572
00:29:05,661 --> 00:29:08,413
when he was temporary PIO,
573
00:29:08,413 --> 00:29:10,832
and she filed a complaint
for sexual harassment.
574
00:29:15,837 --> 00:29:19,424
Had he crossed a line
he couldn't come back from?
575
00:29:19,424 --> 00:29:22,386
But Joel didn't tell Karoline
about any of this.
576
00:29:22,386 --> 00:29:24,388
Instead, he had an excuse.
577
00:29:24,388 --> 00:29:26,723
♪ ♪
578
00:29:26,723 --> 00:29:29,977
- He said, I've had
so much tension built up in me
579
00:29:29,977 --> 00:29:33,605
because I have severe PTSD
from work.
580
00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:37,609
♪ ♪
581
00:29:37,609 --> 00:29:41,905
- 70% of cops have PTSD,
most of which is undiagnosed.
582
00:29:41,905 --> 00:29:43,532
♪ ♪
583
00:29:43,532 --> 00:29:45,993
You know what you call
the other 30%?
584
00:29:45,993 --> 00:29:47,661
Rookies.
585
00:29:47,661 --> 00:29:49,788
In other words,
it's going to happen.
586
00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:51,748
Every cop gets PTSD.
587
00:29:51,748 --> 00:29:53,709
The job is not driving around
588
00:29:53,709 --> 00:29:55,460
giving speeding tickets
to soccer moms.
589
00:29:59,006 --> 00:30:00,924
It's tragedy every day.
590
00:30:03,927 --> 00:30:05,846
♪ ♪
591
00:30:05,846 --> 00:30:08,682
And so I did find
a therapist who specialized
592
00:30:08,682 --> 00:30:11,601
in PTSD for first responders.
593
00:30:11,601 --> 00:30:14,479
And Joel did
engage in therapy.
594
00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:16,440
And Joel went right back
595
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,943
to continuing
as a midnight lieutenant.
596
00:30:19,943 --> 00:30:22,487
No harm, no foul.
597
00:30:22,487 --> 00:30:25,490
But Karoline was really
worried about him mentally.
598
00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:28,577
It was a really tough time.
599
00:30:34,624 --> 00:30:38,336
- Joel told Karoline
that he lost his job as PIO
600
00:30:38,336 --> 00:30:40,589
because of a fight
with the police chief,
601
00:30:40,589 --> 00:30:42,466
so he starts
seeing a therapist
602
00:30:42,466 --> 00:30:44,301
and saw no other consequences
at work.
603
00:30:44,301 --> 00:30:47,721
But he's really
in a bad place mentally.
604
00:30:47,721 --> 00:30:51,600
Around spring of 2019,
605
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,853
we were sitting
at our son's lacrosse game
606
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:58,065
and he was
particularly disengaged.
607
00:30:58,065 --> 00:31:02,194
And so after the game, I said
to him, what is going on?
608
00:31:02,194 --> 00:31:06,782
And he said, I'm having issues
with our son driving.
609
00:31:06,782 --> 00:31:08,241
♪ ♪
610
00:31:08,241 --> 00:31:11,244
Now that he's 16, I find myself
611
00:31:11,244 --> 00:31:14,039
replaying all
the different fatal accidents
612
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:18,460
that I've been to where
there's been a kid involved.
613
00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:21,546
♪ ♪
614
00:31:21,546 --> 00:31:23,465
And that hit me.
615
00:31:23,465 --> 00:31:26,259
♪ ♪
616
00:31:26,259 --> 00:31:28,970
How can I make sure that
you feel safe with him driving?
617
00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:32,140
♪ ♪
618
00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:34,017
Trying to take every
measure possible
619
00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:35,310
just to put him at ease.
620
00:31:35,310 --> 00:31:37,646
♪ ♪
621
00:31:37,646 --> 00:31:40,190
- While Joel's focusing
on his mental health,
622
00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:44,027
there was still a lot
to celebrate within the family.
623
00:31:44,027 --> 00:31:46,571
- Our daughter was getting
ready to have her sweet 16,
624
00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:49,407
our son was graduating
from high school,
625
00:31:49,407 --> 00:31:50,700
and Joel and I were
626
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:53,161
approaching
our 20th anniversary.
627
00:31:53,161 --> 00:31:56,331
And he said, let's go big.
628
00:31:56,331 --> 00:31:58,333
And then
we invited friends to join us
629
00:31:58,333 --> 00:32:02,212
on what they thought was
just a vacation in Mexico.
630
00:32:02,212 --> 00:32:06,049
- We spent some really
fun days together.
631
00:32:06,049 --> 00:32:09,678
And then it was sprung upon us
that it wasn't just a trip,
632
00:32:09,678 --> 00:32:12,430
but it was a vow renewal
for Joel and Karoline
633
00:32:12,430 --> 00:32:14,432
and that we were all here
for that purpose.
634
00:32:17,435 --> 00:32:18,812
♪ ♪
635
00:32:18,812 --> 00:32:22,232
When it was time
for his vows to me,
636
00:32:22,232 --> 00:32:25,110
he said,
the first time I did this,
637
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:27,237
we were just
getting started out
638
00:32:27,237 --> 00:32:29,364
and I just did this
impulsively.
639
00:32:29,364 --> 00:32:33,743
This time around,
I put some thought to it.
640
00:32:33,743 --> 00:32:36,997
- Joel was crying when
he was saying his vows.
641
00:32:36,997 --> 00:32:40,417
That just sticks
with me sometimes.
642
00:32:40,417 --> 00:32:42,836
And he got down on one knee
643
00:32:42,836 --> 00:32:45,589
and he had this huge,
beautiful new ring for me.
644
00:32:45,589 --> 00:32:48,258
And there wasn't
a dry eye on that beach.
645
00:32:48,258 --> 00:32:51,052
♪ ♪
646
00:32:51,052 --> 00:32:52,554
- There was so much that was
647
00:32:52,554 --> 00:32:54,514
going on in their lives
at that point.
648
00:32:54,514 --> 00:32:56,141
You know,
Karoline was so afraid
649
00:32:56,141 --> 00:32:57,893
and the kids were worried
about their dad,
650
00:32:57,893 --> 00:33:01,897
that to go there and to watch
them, it was just inspiring.
651
00:33:01,897 --> 00:33:04,774
That's the kind of love
that people aspire for.
652
00:33:04,774 --> 00:33:07,986
♪ ♪
653
00:33:10,071 --> 00:33:13,283
Our son at our reception,
654
00:33:13,283 --> 00:33:18,038
he grabs a glass of champagne
for a toast.
655
00:33:18,038 --> 00:33:19,748
I was proud to have parents
656
00:33:19,748 --> 00:33:25,629
that were still together,
having a 20-plus year marriage
657
00:33:25,629 --> 00:33:28,924
with the renewal of vows.
658
00:33:28,924 --> 00:33:31,509
And he said,
out of all my friends,
659
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:33,553
my parents are the anomaly.
660
00:33:33,553 --> 00:33:38,308
Cheers to my mom and dad
for showing us what love is.
661
00:33:38,308 --> 00:33:43,104
♪ ♪
662
00:33:43,104 --> 00:33:44,731
- When they got back
from Mexico,
663
00:33:44,731 --> 00:33:46,233
things were OK for a while.
664
00:33:46,233 --> 00:33:48,985
But then Karoline says,
Joel's mental health
665
00:33:48,985 --> 00:33:53,782
started to decline
and things got really bad.
666
00:33:53,782 --> 00:33:55,700
And he says, Karoline,
667
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:59,412
I think I'm having
a nervous breakdown.
668
00:33:59,412 --> 00:34:01,706
I just said, quit.
669
00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:03,792
You know, you've done this
for over 25 years.
670
00:34:03,792 --> 00:34:04,960
Just quit.
671
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,795
We'll figure it out.
672
00:34:06,795 --> 00:34:10,757
I can't stand
seeing you like this.
673
00:34:10,757 --> 00:34:12,592
- They are working as a team
674
00:34:12,592 --> 00:34:15,929
to figure out
how to get Joel better.
675
00:34:18,265 --> 00:34:19,975
But a month later,
676
00:34:19,975 --> 00:34:24,229
Joel's actions
would destroy their family.
677
00:34:24,229 --> 00:34:29,901
I wanted to talk a little bit
about April 11th, 2022.
678
00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:30,986
You know, I can't do that
679
00:34:30,986 --> 00:34:32,946
without talking
about April 10th.
680
00:34:32,946 --> 00:34:35,407
April 10th, it was a Sunday.
681
00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:37,033
And Nicole and I had gotten up
682
00:34:37,033 --> 00:34:39,077
and we were getting ready
for church.
683
00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:40,870
And Joel emerged and
came into the bathroom
684
00:34:40,870 --> 00:34:44,708
and said, hey,
I'm going to go with you guys.
685
00:34:44,708 --> 00:34:47,127
Nicole's face was just
like, oh my gosh, Daddy.
686
00:34:47,127 --> 00:34:48,670
Like, really, you're
going to come with us?
687
00:34:48,670 --> 00:34:51,506
Because he had
never participated
688
00:34:51,506 --> 00:34:53,216
in that part of our lives.
689
00:34:53,216 --> 00:34:55,218
And he went to Mass with us.
690
00:34:55,218 --> 00:34:57,137
It was what we thought was
691
00:34:57,137 --> 00:34:59,431
kind of this
enlightening moment for him,
692
00:34:59,431 --> 00:35:02,142
that he was finding his faith
693
00:35:02,142 --> 00:35:05,103
and finding just
mental health stability.
694
00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:10,066
It was just such a good day
and it was a good night, too.
695
00:35:12,819 --> 00:35:15,155
I've never told you this.
696
00:35:16,448 --> 00:35:21,202
It was the last time
we were intimate.
697
00:35:21,202 --> 00:35:23,580
It was just a good day.
698
00:35:23,580 --> 00:35:25,248
And I said to him,
699
00:35:25,248 --> 00:35:27,751
I'm so proud of you
for putting yourself first
700
00:35:27,751 --> 00:35:29,669
and your mental health first.
701
00:35:32,672 --> 00:35:37,469
♪ ♪
702
00:35:37,469 --> 00:35:39,387
That next day, I was at work.
703
00:35:39,387 --> 00:35:42,557
It was around 1:30
in the afternoon.
704
00:35:42,557 --> 00:35:46,728
♪ ♪
705
00:35:46,728 --> 00:35:48,438
I was in an online meeting
706
00:35:48,438 --> 00:35:52,359
and I see this notification
come through on my phone.
707
00:35:52,359 --> 00:35:54,903
And we had outside cameras
around our home
708
00:35:54,903 --> 00:35:57,447
and I see that there's
movement on the cameras.
709
00:35:57,447 --> 00:36:01,660
And I see that it's Joel.
710
00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:07,415
I watch him drag up
the trash can.
711
00:36:07,415 --> 00:36:09,167
And I send him a quick text
and I just said,
712
00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:11,920
hey, what brought you home
so early?
713
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,338
And he didn't respond.
714
00:36:13,338 --> 00:36:15,924
♪ ♪
715
00:36:15,924 --> 00:36:18,385
And as I'm watching,
I thought to myself,
716
00:36:18,385 --> 00:36:20,678
where is his cop car?
717
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:26,726
So I texted him again.
718
00:36:26,726 --> 00:36:28,395
Hey,
why are you home so early?
719
00:36:28,395 --> 00:36:30,438
I noticed that your cop car
isn't in the driveway.
720
00:36:30,438 --> 00:36:34,025
Is everything OK?
He didn't respond.
721
00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:35,276
♪ ♪
722
00:36:35,276 --> 00:36:37,153
So I texted him again
and I said,
723
00:36:37,153 --> 00:36:39,197
I'm a little scared,
'cause you're not responding.
724
00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:40,990
Is everything OK?
725
00:36:40,990 --> 00:36:43,493
♪ ♪
726
00:36:43,493 --> 00:36:45,662
And then at this point,
727
00:36:45,662 --> 00:36:51,042
I see the dots on the iPhone
just bouncing.
728
00:36:51,042 --> 00:36:53,294
And then I got a text
729
00:36:53,294 --> 00:36:56,673
that completely
changed my life.
730
00:37:02,095 --> 00:37:05,223
I texted Joel,
"Everything OK?"
731
00:37:07,892 --> 00:37:13,231
His response was, no,
everything's not OK.
732
00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:16,734
I fucked up the worst I've
ever fucked up in my life.
733
00:37:16,734 --> 00:37:21,030
You're going to want
to divorce me.
734
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:25,618
And I had this panic
and fear come over me.
735
00:37:25,618 --> 00:37:27,412
And I wrote back,
what are you talking about?
736
00:37:27,412 --> 00:37:31,332
What is going on?
737
00:37:31,332 --> 00:37:33,168
And he wrote back,
738
00:37:33,168 --> 00:37:37,255
I was caught receiving oral sex
in my cop car.
739
00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:41,551
I lied about it during an
internal affairs investigation.
740
00:37:41,551 --> 00:37:46,598
I'm pending termination.
I have ruined our lives.
741
00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:52,854
And I sat there
staring at that.
742
00:37:52,854 --> 00:37:55,899
I just closed my laptop.
743
00:37:55,899 --> 00:37:57,525
I didn't excuse myself
744
00:37:57,525 --> 00:37:59,569
from this very professional
meeting.
745
00:37:59,569 --> 00:38:01,780
I didn't tell anyone
what I was doing.
746
00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:06,743
I just got my stuff
and I walked out of my work.
747
00:38:06,743 --> 00:38:10,872
I made it to a street corner
before I lost it.
748
00:38:10,872 --> 00:38:15,460
♪ ♪
749
00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:18,421
And I was crying
and I called him.
750
00:38:18,421 --> 00:38:23,176
And I just kept repeating over
and over and over again,
751
00:38:23,176 --> 00:38:25,220
what did you do?
752
00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:27,096
What did you do?
753
00:38:27,096 --> 00:38:29,682
♪ ♪
754
00:38:29,682 --> 00:38:33,478
And he said, I'm sorry,
Karoline, I'm just so sorry.
755
00:38:33,478 --> 00:38:39,609
♪ ♪
756
00:38:39,609 --> 00:38:41,653
I got home.
757
00:38:43,988 --> 00:38:46,991
And he wasn't there.
758
00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:50,203
And I heard Nicole come home.
759
00:38:50,203 --> 00:38:55,375
And she was just
so unsuspecting.
760
00:38:55,375 --> 00:38:56,793
It was like
761
00:38:56,793 --> 00:39:01,840
her last moments
of an innocent voice.
762
00:39:04,634 --> 00:39:07,887
♪ ♪
763
00:39:07,887 --> 00:39:09,013
I thought it was weird
764
00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:13,059
that my mom was home
from work already.
765
00:39:13,059 --> 00:39:17,355
And she said, like,
come talk to me.
766
00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:20,608
Something happened.
767
00:39:20,608 --> 00:39:22,360
She started choking up
768
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,196
and couldn't really
express the words.
769
00:39:25,196 --> 00:39:26,906
And so I said, like,
what's happening?
770
00:39:26,906 --> 00:39:30,493
What's wrong?
Is Daddy OK?
771
00:39:30,493 --> 00:39:33,496
And she started crying.
772
00:39:33,496 --> 00:39:37,500
And so she said,
call your brother on the phone.
773
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:39,752
I get a call from my sister.
774
00:39:39,752 --> 00:39:42,297
It's an emergency.
775
00:39:42,297 --> 00:39:47,719
I remember my mom
and my sister shaken up.
776
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,346
♪ ♪
777
00:39:50,346 --> 00:39:54,183
Nicole had
her brother on speakerphone.
778
00:39:54,183 --> 00:39:57,604
I could hear Joel come home.
779
00:39:57,604 --> 00:40:00,023
And I said,
you need to tell them.
780
00:40:00,023 --> 00:40:02,066
He told both of the kids,
781
00:40:02,066 --> 00:40:05,403
I got caught receiving
oral sex in my cop car.
782
00:40:05,403 --> 00:40:08,448
♪ ♪
783
00:40:08,448 --> 00:40:13,328
I'm pending termination.
So emotionless.
784
00:40:13,328 --> 00:40:14,871
It was, like, rehearsed.
785
00:40:14,871 --> 00:40:17,624
♪ ♪
786
00:40:17,624 --> 00:40:21,377
And both kids
just started crying.
787
00:40:21,377 --> 00:40:26,924
And our son,
he kept saying, why?
788
00:40:26,924 --> 00:40:31,971
Why would you do this
to our family?
789
00:40:31,971 --> 00:40:36,976
My initial reaction was anger
790
00:40:36,976 --> 00:40:42,273
and such a profound feeling
of betrayal.
791
00:40:42,273 --> 00:40:45,193
Our son hangs up in a rage.
792
00:40:45,193 --> 00:40:48,821
Our daughter has buried her
head into me and crying.
793
00:40:48,821 --> 00:40:52,659
And in the moment of seeing
all of that emotion,
794
00:40:52,659 --> 00:40:55,578
he takes off his wedding ring.
795
00:40:55,578 --> 00:40:57,455
He just walked out the door.
796
00:40:57,455 --> 00:40:59,332
That was it.
That's how he left us.
797
00:41:02,377 --> 00:41:07,131
This isn't
a simple affair story.
798
00:41:07,131 --> 00:41:11,594
My mom and sister were both
so overcome with grief
799
00:41:11,594 --> 00:41:14,931
and it would only get worse.
800
00:41:14,931 --> 00:41:19,102
- We had just been pawns
in his game and story.
801
00:41:19,102 --> 00:41:21,479
♪ ♪
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