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(projector whirring)
(beep blipping)
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(bright orchestral music)
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(seat thudding)
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(Moe laughing)
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(bright orchestral music)
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- A tarantula!
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Woo!
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- Hey, you're in a court,
not in the woods, Tarzan.
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(hand smacking)
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(hat thumping)
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(hand smacking)
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- I'm a victim of circumstance.
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(hand smacking)
- Eh, who you hittin'?
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(fingers poking)
- Oh!
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- Get goin'.
- Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
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(hand smacking)
Oh!
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(tongue thwacking)
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- Whoa!
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(Shemp laughing)
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- Look, where you goin' with the water?
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- Oh, my tent's on fire!
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(water splashing)
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- How's that, eh?
- Eh, come on.
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- Hey!
- What's the matter with you?
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(Curly blowing)
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- That was for onesies.
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- Well, here's twosies.
- Oh! Oh!
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- [Larry and Shemp] Mmmm, nuh.
(hands thudding)
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(thumbs poking)
- Oh!
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(bright orchestral music)
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(playful lighthearted music)
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- [Paul] Almost everyone is familiar with
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the screen characters
of Curly, Moe and Larry,
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and most people know Shemp,
Joe Besser and Curly Joe.
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These six men formed the
world's most loved comedy team,
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the Three Stooges,
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but Moe wasn't always
the leader of the group.
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In fact, when they first started,
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the boys were almost interchangeable.
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The development of their screen characters
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was a slow process of evolution that took
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many years of refinement.
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(hand smacking)
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- Do that again.
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Do that again.
(hand smacking)
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- It took it extra.
- He's wrong.
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- Well, this is the way, isn't it?
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(hand smacking)
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- [Paul] In the beginning,
the Stooges worked
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for a brilliant vaudeville
comedian who essentially
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created the concept of stooges.
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Ted Healy was born Charles Ernest Lea Nash
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on October 1st, 1896 in Kaufman, Texas.
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He moved to New York with
his parents and grew up
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planning to pursue a career in business,
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but was bitten by the
showbiz bug early on.
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He changed his name to Ted
Healy and eventually found
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his niche on Broadway
where he was performing
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with his first wife Betty Brown.
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During the winter of 1922,
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they were appearing at the
Prospect Theater in Brooklyn,
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where Ted had a visit from a boyhood pal.
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It was this chance meeting
that would forever alter
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the course of Ted's life and
the history of film comedy.
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That friend was Moe Howard,
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born Moses Horwitz on June 19th, 1897
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in Bensonhurst, New York.
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The Horwitz family was a large one,
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like many families of the time,
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and Jenny and Solomon had four boys:
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Jack, Irving, Sam who became Shemp,
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and Moe who was the youngest,
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although that changed six years later
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with the birth of Jerome,
whom you might know as Curly.
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Moe was always fascinated by the theater,
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and as a young boy he
spent most of his time
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at the local playhouses.
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He would watch the same show several times
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and concentrate on just one performer,
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a practice which served him well
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when he entered show business himself.
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- [Moe] I was in many, many
films from 1908 to 1911.
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I must have been in 40 or 50 films.
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I honed my way into the studio by
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asking if they wanted
me to go for sandwiches.
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- [Paul] In 1914, Moe ran away from home
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to get an acting job on a
showboat in Jackson, Mississippi.
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After working there for two
seasons, Moe returned home,
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and several months later, he
and his older brother Shemp
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started a new act called
Howard and Howard.
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They worked the vaudeville
circuits achieving
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moderate success until the winter of 1922,
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when Moe discovered that
his old friend Ted Healy
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was headlining at the Prospect Theater.
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According to Moe, this
meeting was essentially
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the birth of the Stooges.
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- Well, there's controversy as to who were
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the first Stooges.
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I think everybody sort
of agrees that Ted Healy
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was the number one Stooge.
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And he was a big
vaudeville/burlesque-type comedian
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who was very popular in his day,
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and he was boyhood friends
with Shemp and Moe Howard
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growing up in the same neighborhood.
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If you listen to Moe and his family,
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they sort of think Moe
was the first Stooge.
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If you listen to Shemp and his people,
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he was the first Stooge.
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What it seems like in the early years,
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there were various Stooges
floating in and out of the act.
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As one got married and had children,
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he left for a little while,
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another person would
come by and replace him.
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But, basically, it was Ted, Moe
and Shemp, some combination.
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They picked up Larry after
seeing him in a show in Chicago.
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- [Paul] Enter Louis Feinberg,
better known as Larry Fine.
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- Larry was born on October the 5th, 1902.
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He was born in Philadelphia
and the address
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was 606 South Third Street.
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At that time my father had a
jewelry store at that address,
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and my parents lived in an
apartment above the store.
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- [Paul] Larry was the
first of four children.
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He was followed by Morris, Philip,
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who died of influenza in 1919,
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and the last, his sister, Lyla.
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- Jewelers used acid to test gold.
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And so my father had a
bottle with the acid in it.
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I don't remember what kind of acid it was,
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but Larry as a little boy was curious,
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like other little boys,
and he put his hand up
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and he pulled this acid down and it burned
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the right over here on his arm.
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He had this very bad acid burn,
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and he could not use his left hand.
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He was left-handed.
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So the doctors suggested
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learning to play the violin
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actually as an exercise to
practice using the hand.
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So they didn't know what
else to get a youngster
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of his age to do to use the hand.
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That's how he began playing the violin.
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- [Paul] Music would influence
the rest of Larry's life.
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- He was always an outgoing child.
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He was always an outgoing
person as he grew up.
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He was active in school,
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but more in the sense
that he was a musician.
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Larry was studying to
be a concert violinist.
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He played the violin
in the school orchestra
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even when he was in elementary school,
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and he was an excellent violinist.
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So most of his early years
were spent studying the violin,
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but he had a need to be funny.
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This was within, it was born
in him, I guess you'd say.
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(whistle tooting)
(violin tuning)
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(clapper clacking)
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(foot stomping)
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(bright vaudeville music)
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(frantic vaudeville music)
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(bow thudding)
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(cello thudding)
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(frantic vaudeville music)
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- A tarantula!
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(Moe screaming)
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- Get it away from me!
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- Woob, woob, woob, woob, woob!
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(gavel pounding)
- Ow!
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(hand smacking)
What's the matter with you?
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(gun firing)
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I killed it!
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- Oh!
- What's the matter with you?
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- A field mouse!
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Stand back, it's liable to bite ya!
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- Tarantula?
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Shot five holes in a divot.
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(hand smacking)
Get outta here. Go on!
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- [Paul] Larry also loved sports.
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He tried boxing under the name Kid Roth,
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but his parents disapproved and he quickly
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returned to the theater.
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He worked in dozens of small shows
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and eventually teamed with
his sweetheart Mabel Haney
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and her sister Loretta for
a singing and dancing act
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which they called the
Haney Sisters and Fine.
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But in 1925, Larry was working as an MC
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at Fred Mann's Rainbo Gardens in Chicago
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when he received a
once-in-a-lifetime offer.
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- Ted Healy was working in Chicago
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with Shemp and Moe Howard,
who were his Stooges.
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I don't recall which one of them.
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I think it was Shemp who
went to see the show.
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And he came back and
told Ted I saw someone
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that I think would fit
into our act very well.
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- [Moe] So Healy said would you like to be
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one of the Stooges?
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Make three out of the two, you know?
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And he said, yes, I'd love that.
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He says, okay, I'll give you $90 a week.
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Fine, he said, I'll give you an extra 10
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if you throw that fiddle away.
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- [Paul] In that same year of 1925,
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Moe married Helen Schonberger.
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And shortly afterwards,
Shemp married Gertrude Frank,
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whose nickname was Babe.
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The four boys worked
the vaudeville circuit
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until Ted and Shemp left
to join a Broadway show
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called "A Night in Spain."
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During this period, Larry
married Mabel Haney,
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and eventually he and Moe
rejoined Ted and Shemp
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in the Broadway show 'A Night in Venice,"
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which became a hit.
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This paved the way for better bookings,
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and eventually an appearance
at the prestigious
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Palace Theatre on Broadway.
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A talent scout from Fox Studios hired them
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for Rube Goldberg's
feature "Soup To Nuts".
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Healy was making over $1,000 a week
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while the Stooges' salary
remained at the usual $100.
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- See, these Stooges were
my father's employees,
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and they came as an act and he was the one
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that was paid and he paid them.
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And this caused a lot of friction,
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especially with Moe because
he was a better businessman
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than probably any one
of the other four were.
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- [Paul] They didn't care
for the pay inequity,
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but in their eyes it was
a shot at the big time.
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Unfortunately, the film only
received lukewarm reviews,
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but the Stooges received high
praise for their performance.
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Fox Studio heads noticed the
great reviews for the boys
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and offered them a solo contract,
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but when Ted caught wind of the deal,
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he immediately went to the
Fox brass and forced them
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to withdraw the offer.
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In his eyes, they were
breaking up his act,
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and after all, they were his employees.
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So when the Stooges learned
that the deal was off,
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they decided to strike out on their own.
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- Three boys left Ted Healy
because they were offered
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more money in the (indistinct) circuit.
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How much, I don't know.
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So he needed three replacements.
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They couldn't use the
name of Healy Stooges,
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of The Three Stooges.
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So they call himself
Howard, Fine & Howard.
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Shemp, Moe and Larry.
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Now, Ted's got a new audition of Stooges.
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Now I never saw that
type of comedy before,
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where you hit each other, poke your eyes.
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I never saw that.
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And I never saw their act
till I got an audition.
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I went to my audition and I
went up to say hello to Ted.
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He gave me a bang in the head
you never saw in your life,
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and I got so mad.
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I jumped on him, bit his
ear, grabbed his nose,
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hit him back.
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He says, you're hired. Get
in the corner. (laughing)
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You know why he did that?
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Get the reaction from ya.
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It was a whole thing.
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- [Paul] Ted had his
new Stooges performing
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material that was identical to what Moe,
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Larry and Shemp had done.
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(men shouting in foreign language)
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(hand smacking)
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- What are ya? A wiseguy?
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- Let me at 'em!
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(dramatic orchestral music)
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- Wait a minute!
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Let me see ya make a hard fist.
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(hand thwacking)
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Let me see you make a hard fist.
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(fist thwacking)
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(bright orchestral music)
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Wait a minute!
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Pay me the $50,000.
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I'll foreclose this mortgage, you mouse!
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- I won't pay it!
(hand smacking)
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- Pay me the $50,000 and I'll foreclose
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this mortgage, you mouse!
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- I won't pay it!
(hand smacking)
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- Don't get excited. It's in the mortgage.
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Pay me the 50,000 or I'll foreclose!
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- I won't pay it!
(hand smacking)
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- For goodness sakes, pay the money!
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- So he was good to work for.
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When he was not drinking, boy.
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He was a college graduate, you know?
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Went to college, Ted did.
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And he always was a good actor,
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but he developed to be
a great personality.
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He was the closest thing
as far as telling jokes,
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but as far as personality,
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the closest thing I ever seen to Jolson.
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- See, he was the first
person that ever played
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comedy off of somebody else.
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Up to his point in time, comedy
was always a Charlie Chaplin
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or Harold Lloyd type thing
where some guy was funny
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and he was the whole show.
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And he played off somebody
else with the Stooges.
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- When I was first with Ted Healy,
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I used to go to bed at
night and I saw hands.
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I saw those hands and fingers (chuckling)
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when in my sleep.
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That's all I saw at rehearsals.
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Whacking and banging and all them.
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You know the first joke I
ever did with Ted Healy?
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He said, what time is
it? I said, one o'clock.
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He went bong. I said I'm glad it ain't 12.
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You know, that was the
first joke I did. (laughing)
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- [Paul] Ted was touring
with his new Stooges,
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but Howard, Fine & Howard were creating
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comedy of their own.
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- Supposedly, Shemp came
up with the eye poke
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poke during a card game in which he was,
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Larry beat him or
something and he was mad,
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and he just hauled off and
poked him right in eye.
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And Moe thought it was
so funny that he fell out
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of his chair laughing and said
that's gonna stay in the act.
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And that was probably
one of the few things
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that the Stooges actually
invented themselves.
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All the other things, the
pie fights and the slapping
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and all that had been done
for many years before.
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- [Paul] Even though
Ted had his new Stooges,
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the chemistry just wasn't the same,
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and he continued to press
the original Stooges
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into returning.
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- I think the reason he hired
us for the Three Stooges,
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it was for revenge for
the three guys to see that
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they can be replaced.
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Not saying we were as good,
which I don't think we were,
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but that was his mind that
he knew we weren't as good.
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And finally,
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thank God.
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We went up to Ted and says, Ted,
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we like to do our own act.
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He didn't fire us.
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And about two weeks later,
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we were rehearsing a walk down Broadway
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and I see Ted with the three guys.
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- [Paul] On a promise to avoid drinking,
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Ted won the Stooges back.
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But again, change was
waiting in the wings.
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Shemp decided he wanted to
leave the Healy act for good.
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- Apparently his wife
did not like Ted Healy,
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and there's some various
stories floating around
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of some pranks that Healy
pulled that Shemp and his wife
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didn't take too kindly to.
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And eventually, Shemp
just went out on his own.
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He had a very successful
career on his own,
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but I don't think he
made the kind of money
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that the Stooges ultimately
made at Columbia.
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- [Moe] In 1932, Shemp got
the opportunity to play
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the character Knobby in Joe
Palooka pictures on the coast.
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And it seemed like a great
opportunity for Shemp.
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And he was reluctant about leaving.
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He said, well, what are you
gonna do for a third man?
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I said, Shemp, don't worry about that.
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Grab your opportunity and we'll get
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the kid brother Curly in.
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And Curly was working with a band
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called Orville Knapp and his band.
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He was a comedy guest conductor,
and he got a big laugh.
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So we got in touch with Curly and he said,
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give the man two week's notice.
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Come on, you're gonna join with us.
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Of course, Shemp had
the long hair, you know.
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He used to push it back over his ears
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and Larry had the wild
hair, I had the bangs.
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And he had brown, wavy
hair and a mustache.
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Wax-tipped mustache.
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And he said, don't worry
about how I'll wear my hair.
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I'll be back here on a half hour.
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And he was, and he wore a cap.
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When he took the cap off, he
was as bald as a cue ball.
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Looked like a naked eggplant.
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- [Paul] So Babe was rechristened Curly.
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It took a while, but
when he hit his stride,
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Curly became the most loved
and the best known Stooge.
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In 1933, Ted Healy and the
boys signed a film contract
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with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.
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The boys had finally hit the big time.
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(bright orchestral music)
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In their one year at MGM,
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they appeared in six feature
pictures with big stars
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like Clark Gable, Joan
Crawford, even Laurel and Hardy.
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And they also starred in a series of five
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two-reel short subjects,
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some of which were written as wraparounds
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for elaborate MGM dance
numbers that were filmed,
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but never used.
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They even filmed two of their
shorts in a special format.
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- They did a couple shorts
that were in a experimental,
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I think it's called a
two-strip Technicolor,
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and I'm not a real technical guy,
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but it was a very early
form of Technicolor
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that they were experimenting with.
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And it's kind of lousy looking color,
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but it's color, and it's from 1933.
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It's very unusual.
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- [Paul] The feature
films and short subjects
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were well received by the public,
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but the Stooges' relationship
with Ted once again
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began to deteriorate.
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- Their complaint was two things.
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One that he drank too much, and two,
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that he didn't give them enough money,
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and I think the latter
was really the problem.
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- I think primarily
because A, of his drinking,
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and B, because of the
inequity in the pay scale.
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The Stooges were getting
a lot of the laughs,
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but they weren't getting any of the money.
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And I think they felt that they could be
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just as good without him
and make a lot more money.
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And they had to deal
with a lot of his stuff.
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He was drunk a lot of the time.
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And ultimately, they just
decided to go on their own.
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- [Paul] So Ted stayed
with MGM and the boys
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set out as a trio.
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It was decided that Moe would
handle the business affairs,
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essentially stepping into the Healy role.
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- Offscreen he was very much
like what he was like onscreen.
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Not that he was mean and nasty,
422
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but he was clearly the
leader of the group.
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He was probably the one who made most
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of the financial decisions
and arranged a lot
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of the bookings and things like that,
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and decided what was best for the team.
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It seemed like he was the
one who had the biggest say.
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- [Paul] Moe landed a one film deal
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at Columbia Pictures, and if
the results were favorable,
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the studio would offer
them a long-term contract.
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So the boys co-starred with Marjorie White
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in a 20-minute rhyming short
subject called "Woman Haters."
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As soon as they finished,
they began writing a treatment
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for another comedy called
"A Symphony of Punches,"
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which they presented to the studio heads
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who were so impressed
that the boys were given
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a seven-year contract with yearly options.
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"A Symphony of Punches"
was retitled "Punch Drunks"
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and became their second
short, but more importantly,
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Howard, Fine & Howard
finally received the billing
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that would stay with them forever.
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They became The Three Stooges.
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- [Moe] We did nine films a year.
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And we had under the contract,
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we did those in 40 weeks.
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We had 12 weeks off in which
we did personal appearances.
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- [Paul] The Stooges evolved into
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very specific characters.
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- The whole Larry
impersonation that I do is,
450
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it's a product of watching
the Stooges for so many years,
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so many times, having
everything memorized perfectly.
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And one day there was just
nothing left to like about them.
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There was no more surprises.
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You knew it so well.
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So I began to watch it in a different way.
456
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I would just turn on the
TV and I would just watch
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one thing and one thing only.
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I would pay no attention to Moe and Curly,
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because that's where
usually the attention was.
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They'd get into a fight and
Moe would do a number on Curly.
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00:20:19,140 --> 00:20:22,830
Meanwhile, no one ever
can say that they watched
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what Larry was doing all this time.
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And I began to look at the faces he made
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and the things that he said.
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Like when Moe was beating on Curly,
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you were just watching them.
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But if you took the time
to look at the other side
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of the screen, you'd see.
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00:20:38,220 --> 00:20:39,810
You know, and I began watching that.
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And then I began paying
attention to his voice,
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and I realized that
how much Larry was like
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the Keith Richard of the Stooges.
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You know what I mean?
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It's like without, without Larry,
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they wouldn't have had
any kind of relationship.
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It would just be here all the time
477
00:20:58,350 --> 00:21:01,590
and nothing like setting
little blazes here and there.
478
00:21:01,590 --> 00:21:04,890
Like when Moe would climb
a ladder and you knew
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he was gonna fall and break his ass.
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But the one little thing Larry would say
481
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before it all happened and
you knew it was gonna happen,
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he'd go, "Be careful, Moe."
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You know, and it just,
to me, that was bedlam.
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That was like the thing
that lit the comic fuse.
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- [Moe] Larry with the bushy hair.
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He was, you see, he
couldn't talk tough to me
487
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because that would the wrong thing to do.
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Get a belt in my mouth anyhow if he did.
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And Curly was just that simp, you know?
490
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He was just big enough and strong enough
491
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that anything I said or did,
he could break me in half,
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00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,750
but his only retaliation was, "Ooh!"
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Every time I went on a personal
appearance in the theater,
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every time I smacked Curly,
somebody in the audience
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would holler, "Hit him
back, Curly, hit him back."
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And they throw Carmellos
at me and everything else.
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You know, if we were going through a scene
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and he'd forget his words
for a moment, you know,
499
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,665
rather than get stoned or pale and stop,
500
00:22:01,665 --> 00:22:02,880
you never knew what he was gonna do.
501
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,410
On one occasion he'd go down to the floor
502
00:22:04,410 --> 00:22:06,630
and spin around like a
top till he remembered
503
00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:08,393
what he had to say.
504
00:22:08,393 --> 00:22:10,080
- [Paul] Curly's wild expressions
505
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,110
and childlike mannerisms
made him the favorite Stooge,
506
00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:16,110
but off-camera he could
be very private and shy.
507
00:22:16,110 --> 00:22:19,080
He was born on October 22nd, 1903,
508
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,273
six years younger than his brother Moe.
509
00:22:23,070 --> 00:22:27,090
- My father thought a lot of Moe.
510
00:22:27,090 --> 00:22:30,693
And in some ways, Moe was
maybe a surrogate father.
511
00:22:32,340 --> 00:22:34,350
My father was the baby of the family.
512
00:22:34,350 --> 00:22:35,583
There were five boys.
513
00:22:36,540 --> 00:22:39,843
Moe was not the oldest,
but he was the oldest,
514
00:22:40,890 --> 00:22:43,080
of course he was older than my father.
515
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:48,080
And I feel that well, Moe
gave him the nickname Babe.
516
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,890
And there was a special bond,
that there was a special bond.
517
00:22:52,890 --> 00:22:55,260
- [Paul] When Curly was
13, he accidentally shot
518
00:22:55,260 --> 00:22:56,910
himself in the ankle while hunting,
519
00:22:56,910 --> 00:22:58,740
and he nearly bled to death.
520
00:22:58,740 --> 00:23:01,920
It was Moe who rushed him to
the hospital, saving his life.
521
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,620
However, the injury left
Curly with a noticeable limp,
522
00:23:04,620 --> 00:23:06,930
and this would trouble
him throughout his career.
523
00:23:06,930 --> 00:23:09,510
When Curly was with his
brothers or his close friends,
524
00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:11,100
he became the life of the party.
525
00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:13,470
He sang, danced and played instruments.
526
00:23:13,470 --> 00:23:15,120
But if his gang wasn't around,
527
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:17,700
he felt uncomfortable and
would simply turn inward.
528
00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:21,480
When he became a star, he
started to overindulge himself.
529
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,763
- I saw him at a couple
of clubs in New York,
530
00:23:24,887 --> 00:23:26,610
and he danced every dance.
531
00:23:26,610 --> 00:23:28,467
And between dances, he was drinkin'.
532
00:23:30,150 --> 00:23:30,983
Never stopped.
533
00:23:30,983 --> 00:23:32,940
He lived the life of three men.
534
00:23:32,940 --> 00:23:35,610
- Curly was always slipping
money to me. (chuckling)
535
00:23:35,610 --> 00:23:37,800
That was his way of treating me well.
536
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,140
He'd always slip a quarter to me.
537
00:23:40,140 --> 00:23:42,540
Here kid, go buy something, you know?
538
00:23:42,540 --> 00:23:45,150
Or he'd go out with me
and buy me something.
539
00:23:45,150 --> 00:23:47,430
He was always doing that to me.
540
00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:49,770
- He probably apparently
had a very sad lifestyle,
541
00:23:49,770 --> 00:23:51,153
sort of a lonely person.
542
00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:53,430
Loved dogs.
543
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:54,930
Every time he went on
the road and came home,
544
00:23:54,930 --> 00:23:56,550
he came home with a new dog.
545
00:23:56,550 --> 00:23:59,040
But his personal life was somewhat sad
546
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,620
in that he was remarried four times
547
00:24:01,620 --> 00:24:04,443
and never seemed to find the right girl.
548
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,460
- Curly was nothin'. He just disappeared.
549
00:24:08,460 --> 00:24:10,290
He was, he was really shy.
550
00:24:10,290 --> 00:24:12,030
He would blush when you would talk to him.
551
00:24:12,030 --> 00:24:15,873
I don't think he said one
word to me out of script.
552
00:24:16,890 --> 00:24:21,840
I mean, when we weren't on camera.
553
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,660
He said his dialogue and
whatever he had to say and do,
554
00:24:24,660 --> 00:24:28,740
and the minute they said
cut, he disappeared.
555
00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:30,480
- [Paul] Although his
private life was troubled,
556
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,510
his work with Moe and
Larry was unparalleled.
557
00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:36,870
- He seemed to be the center of interest.
558
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:39,480
I mean, it all, they all worked together.
559
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,620
But to me, I think he
was the most delightful
560
00:24:43,620 --> 00:24:47,970
of the way he looked
and just make you laugh.
561
00:24:47,970 --> 00:24:51,990
But I think Moe and Larry, they were,
562
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:54,630
they just worked like teamwork.
563
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:58,290
I mean, it was, it wasn't
guesswork with them.
564
00:24:58,290 --> 00:25:01,050
It was, they practiced,
565
00:25:01,050 --> 00:25:03,033
they knew exactly what they were doing,
566
00:25:03,930 --> 00:25:05,250
and it came across.
567
00:25:05,250 --> 00:25:06,570
- They didn't do any writing.
568
00:25:06,570 --> 00:25:08,612
Usually they were, they
had writers that wrote
569
00:25:08,612 --> 00:25:09,990
the scripts for them,
570
00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:13,499
but there was a lot of
leeway in the scripts.
571
00:25:13,499 --> 00:25:16,020
Not that everything
they did was ad-libbed,
572
00:25:16,020 --> 00:25:18,210
but there might be a part
where it just would say
573
00:25:18,210 --> 00:25:20,010
Stooges do their thing.
574
00:25:20,010 --> 00:25:22,080
And then a few minutes
of mayhem would ensue
575
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,110
with, you know, hit, with all this stuff.
576
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:27,150
So there was some room
for them to maneuver,
577
00:25:27,150 --> 00:25:29,280
and I'm sure they had such
a working relationship
578
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,560
with the producers and
directors that if something
579
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,150
just wasn't coming out right,
580
00:25:33,150 --> 00:25:35,070
they changed it around to make it funny.
581
00:25:35,070 --> 00:25:36,070
- Take off your hat.
582
00:25:37,205 --> 00:25:39,000
Now raise your right hand.
583
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,980
Now place your left hand here.
584
00:25:40,980 --> 00:25:42,123
- Take off your hat.
585
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:45,510
- Raise your right hand.
586
00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:46,910
Now put your left hand here.
587
00:25:48,060 --> 00:25:49,653
- Please take off your hat.
588
00:25:51,450 --> 00:25:53,010
- Raise your right hand.
589
00:25:53,010 --> 00:25:54,120
- Hmm.
590
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:55,950
- Now put your left hand here.
591
00:25:55,950 --> 00:25:58,653
- Will you please take off your hat?
592
00:26:01,350 --> 00:26:03,450
- Raise your right hand!
593
00:26:03,450 --> 00:26:05,100
- Hmm!
594
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:07,020
- Now put your left hand here.
595
00:26:07,020 --> 00:26:09,330
- Take off your hat!
596
00:26:09,330 --> 00:26:11,400
- Raise your right hand.
597
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,023
Will you get rid of that hat?
598
00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:16,263
- Raise your right hand.
599
00:26:19,230 --> 00:26:21,004
- Raise your right hand!
600
00:26:21,004 --> 00:26:22,165
Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth,
601
00:26:22,165 --> 00:26:24,114
the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
602
00:26:24,114 --> 00:26:25,618
- Huh?
603
00:26:25,618 --> 00:26:27,059
- Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth,
604
00:26:27,059 --> 00:26:28,579
the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
605
00:26:28,579 --> 00:26:31,110
- Are you trying to gimme the double talk?
606
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:32,824
- Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth,
607
00:26:32,824 --> 00:26:34,807
the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
608
00:26:34,807 --> 00:26:37,102
- Why don't you answer him?
609
00:26:37,102 --> 00:26:38,317
- He's talkin' pig Latin.
610
00:26:38,317 --> 00:26:39,480
I don't know what he's saying.
611
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,360
- He's asking you if you swear-
612
00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:44,070
- No, but I know all the words.
613
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:46,200
- [Paul] The Stooges rough
house style of comedy
614
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,000
often left them open to injury.
615
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,740
- Moe was supposed to be a paper hanger,
616
00:26:49,740 --> 00:26:52,117
I think at the time, and he was up on the,
617
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,250
on the wood with planks
and everything else.
618
00:26:56,250 --> 00:26:58,830
And it's supposed to
break in a certain way
619
00:26:58,830 --> 00:27:00,810
and he was supposed to
fall in a certain way,
620
00:27:00,810 --> 00:27:03,453
and it fell the wrong way
and he broke his ribs.
621
00:27:05,250 --> 00:27:07,080
I forget which picture it was in,
622
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,760
and they cut right there,
623
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,830
and he was out for about a week or so,
624
00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:13,433
and then they brought it back in again.
625
00:27:13,433 --> 00:27:16,140
But when you saw the thing when he fell,
626
00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:18,180
you could see the face that he made
627
00:27:18,180 --> 00:27:19,710
that he really cracked his ribs.
628
00:27:19,710 --> 00:27:21,540
You could see if you look for it.
629
00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:22,530
- According to Lyla Budnick,
630
00:27:22,530 --> 00:27:25,140
Larry's face was calloused on the one side
631
00:27:25,140 --> 00:27:26,070
where Moe slapped him.
632
00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:29,010
His left cheek was
always raw and calloused
633
00:27:29,010 --> 00:27:30,810
because Moe was slapping
him with the right hand
634
00:27:30,810 --> 00:27:32,070
across his left cheek.
635
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:34,380
- His little jaw was like
the back of your heel.
636
00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:35,550
That's how tough it was.
637
00:27:35,550 --> 00:27:36,550
You could hit Larry across the jaw
638
00:27:36,550 --> 00:27:38,970
and I don't think he would ever felt it.
639
00:27:38,970 --> 00:27:43,080
He was that calloused
from constantly being hit.
640
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,200
You know, it was nothin' but
constantly day after day,
641
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,150
day after day being hit.
642
00:27:48,150 --> 00:27:49,323
But he was used to it.
643
00:27:50,340 --> 00:27:53,370
- [Paul] In December of
1937, Moe, Larry and Curly
644
00:27:53,370 --> 00:27:55,350
were on their way to
an appearance in Boston
645
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:57,270
when they received word
that their old friend
646
00:27:57,270 --> 00:27:59,760
and partner Ted Healy had died.
647
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,820
- There's a lot of controversy
over the way he died.
648
00:28:02,820 --> 00:28:05,643
He was supposedly involved
in a bar room brawl.
649
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:08,520
The circumstances surrounding the brawl
650
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,830
and who were the participants in the brawl
651
00:28:10,830 --> 00:28:13,980
are still subject of
conjecture to this day.
652
00:28:13,980 --> 00:28:16,320
But after this brawl,
he supposedly went back
653
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,830
to his hotel room and was
found dead there the next day.
654
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:21,930
And it was only maybe
three, four days after
655
00:28:21,930 --> 00:28:23,100
the birth of his first child,
656
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:25,530
so it was very sad set of circumstances.
657
00:28:25,530 --> 00:28:27,617
- Ted is not what they think
he is, what they write about.
658
00:28:27,617 --> 00:28:29,700
He was a nice man.
659
00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:32,203
Only bad thing, he was a
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
660
00:28:32,203 --> 00:28:35,520
When he drank he was Mr. Hyde.
661
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,353
It's too bad.
662
00:28:36,353 --> 00:28:38,340
We lost a great, great talent when he died
663
00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:39,840
at the age of 41.
664
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,320
He was, I don't care. He was a genius.
665
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,464
Wasn't for him, there
wouldn't be no Stooges.
666
00:28:45,464 --> 00:28:47,160
- And he would drag me on the stage,
667
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,730
force me to sing (chuckling) onstage.
668
00:28:50,730 --> 00:28:54,270
And he was, I was never
more than a foot away
669
00:28:54,270 --> 00:28:56,640
from him when we were on the road.
670
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,910
And of course, when he died,
671
00:28:59,910 --> 00:29:03,300
I was heartbroken 'cause
I loved him dearly.
672
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:05,670
- And they had a stormy relationship,
673
00:29:05,670 --> 00:29:07,170
but they were boyhood friends with him.
674
00:29:07,170 --> 00:29:08,730
You know, they, I think they,
675
00:29:08,730 --> 00:29:10,470
there was always a place
in their hearts for him.
676
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:11,790
They liked them. They
were friends with him.
677
00:29:11,790 --> 00:29:13,710
But he just went a little too far.
678
00:29:13,710 --> 00:29:15,870
And you know, there was,
they really had no choice
679
00:29:15,870 --> 00:29:17,460
but to leave him.
680
00:29:17,460 --> 00:29:18,840
When they found out he passed away,
681
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,220
I think they were truly upset.
682
00:29:20,220 --> 00:29:23,400
And they were, they were
shocked, obviously number one.
683
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,110
But I think they really,
they were very upset
684
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:28,170
because although they did
have a stormy relationship,
685
00:29:28,170 --> 00:29:29,460
they had known him for a long time
686
00:29:29,460 --> 00:29:30,960
and they were friends with him.
687
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,610
- I've thought about many times the fact
688
00:29:32,610 --> 00:29:34,560
that he's the one that started it all.
689
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,290
And without him there
would've been no Stooges.
690
00:29:37,290 --> 00:29:42,290
And the fact that he was
celebrating my birth,
691
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:45,780
which caused his death, of
course, is highly unusual.
692
00:29:45,780 --> 00:29:47,373
It's very strange.
693
00:29:49,890 --> 00:29:51,990
- [Paul] Three Stooges
comedies often incorporated
694
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:54,420
contemporary events into the plots.
695
00:29:54,420 --> 00:29:56,880
During World War II, they
were one of the first teams
696
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,747
to parody Hitler in their two shorts
697
00:29:58,747 --> 00:30:01,680
"You Nasty Spy" and
"I'll Never Heil Again."
698
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,510
Curly, Moe and Larry were Jewish,
699
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:05,760
and these films reflected
a political statement
700
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,810
as well as a personal one.
701
00:30:06,810 --> 00:30:10,230
- Well, he was quite
upset about it, naturally.
702
00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:14,430
I mean, anyone who cared
about people was upset,
703
00:30:14,430 --> 00:30:17,610
and then you have to
remember, we're Jewish.
704
00:30:17,610 --> 00:30:22,610
And so the war in Germany
and what went on in Germany
705
00:30:23,070 --> 00:30:25,050
before the war with Hitler and all
706
00:30:25,050 --> 00:30:29,160
was extremely upsetting to all of us.
707
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,570
I think when he was younger,
708
00:30:30,570 --> 00:30:32,400
when he wasn't one of the Stooges
709
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,050
and he was playing in vaudeville
710
00:30:34,050 --> 00:30:36,243
in the little acts in small towns,
711
00:30:37,710 --> 00:30:41,940
he was given a hard
time in some small towns
712
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:46,080
where they put 'em in bathrooms to dress
713
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,004
or they wouldn't let
'em go outside and dress
714
00:30:50,004 --> 00:30:51,990
in the backyard or something.
715
00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:56,160
Or get that little Jew outta here.
716
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,710
But you, listen, you hear that today.
717
00:30:58,710 --> 00:31:02,010
So it's not, it doesn't surprise you.
718
00:31:02,010 --> 00:31:05,760
The only difference is
that 50 or 60 years ago,
719
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,290
you kept your mouth shut.
720
00:31:07,290 --> 00:31:09,390
Today you don't.
721
00:31:09,390 --> 00:31:11,070
- [Paul] The Stooge
comedies were more popular
722
00:31:11,070 --> 00:31:14,190
than ever, but Curly's health
was beginning to deteriorate.
723
00:31:14,190 --> 00:31:16,500
- Curly hadn't been well.
724
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:18,540
None of us realized just
what was wrong with him.
725
00:31:18,540 --> 00:31:23,040
We know now that he'd had
a couple of slight strokes.
726
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,873
And
727
00:31:26,167 --> 00:31:29,280
"Three Little Pirates" was some time after
728
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,810
he'd had those strokes,
729
00:31:30,810 --> 00:31:33,063
but he,
730
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:37,860
from time to time, he
became almost his old self.
731
00:31:37,860 --> 00:31:39,060
And in "Three Little Pirates,"
732
00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:41,673
he was in my opinion, excellent.
733
00:31:42,935 --> 00:31:43,800
He had recovered.
734
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,280
We had high hopes that he
would be perfectly all right,
735
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,310
but as we now know, he wasn't.
736
00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:52,616
And on the very next
picture, he folded up.
737
00:31:52,616 --> 00:31:55,890
He had a stroke that disabled him.
738
00:31:55,890 --> 00:31:57,480
- [Paul] The stress of
Curly's personal life
739
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,370
began to take an obvious toll.
740
00:31:59,370 --> 00:32:01,950
He had been married four
times, drank too much,
741
00:32:01,950 --> 00:32:03,450
suffered from high blood pressure
742
00:32:03,450 --> 00:32:05,520
and was rapidly gaining weight.
743
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,000
In May of 1946, Curly's hard
living caught up with him
744
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,160
and he suffered a
paralyzing stroke on the set
745
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,770
of "Halfwits Holiday" and
he was forced to retire
746
00:32:13,770 --> 00:32:14,910
from the act.
747
00:32:14,910 --> 00:32:16,410
Moe hoped that after some rest,
748
00:32:16,410 --> 00:32:17,940
Curly would be able to return.
749
00:32:17,940 --> 00:32:20,370
So in the meantime, he convinced
his older brother Shemp
750
00:32:20,370 --> 00:32:21,510
to rejoin the group.
751
00:32:21,510 --> 00:32:23,610
- Well, he fit right into
the act because he had been
752
00:32:23,610 --> 00:32:24,900
the original third Stooge,
753
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:27,660
so there was no problem in that sense.
754
00:32:27,660 --> 00:32:30,540
From this, from the
general public standpoint,
755
00:32:30,540 --> 00:32:33,480
I know today people think
that he was a weak replacement
756
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,370
for Curly, but those are
the people that don't know
757
00:32:35,370 --> 00:32:37,050
he was the original Stooge.
758
00:32:37,050 --> 00:32:39,450
I think a lot of people also think Shemp
759
00:32:39,450 --> 00:32:40,890
was trying to imitate Curly,
760
00:32:40,890 --> 00:32:42,900
and he was really not in any way.
761
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:44,760
He just did his own thing,
762
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,710
which was nothing really
like what Curly did.
763
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:48,450
And I think the people
that really don't know
764
00:32:48,450 --> 00:32:50,640
the history of it are the ones that really
765
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,050
don't like Shemp all that much.
766
00:32:52,050 --> 00:32:55,560
The real fans understand
that Shemp was perhaps
767
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,600
the leader of the
Stooges at the beginning.
768
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,030
And when he came back to replace Curly,
769
00:33:00,030 --> 00:33:01,980
he fit in perfectly with the boys.
770
00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:03,750
- [Paul] Columbia was
hesitant to use Shemp
771
00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:05,760
because of his close resemblance to Moe,
772
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,950
but ultimately the Stooges won the point.
773
00:33:07,950 --> 00:33:10,500
Shemp's experience made
him the obvious choice.
774
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:13,770
- [Gary] He was in 100
or more films on his own
775
00:33:13,770 --> 00:33:16,380
between '33, '34 and '46.
776
00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:17,670
During that 13-year period,
777
00:33:17,670 --> 00:33:20,670
he was probably in 90
or 100 films on his own.
778
00:33:20,670 --> 00:33:23,340
He had his own series of which
he was the star at Columbia,
779
00:33:23,340 --> 00:33:25,440
where there were several, it
was the Shemp Howard series.
780
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,390
And there were, he was the head stooge
781
00:33:27,390 --> 00:33:29,670
and the other people
were the knuckleheads.
782
00:33:29,670 --> 00:33:32,070
- [Paul] Shemp Howard had
been born Samuel Horwitz
783
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:34,860
on March 17th, 1895.
784
00:33:34,860 --> 00:33:37,830
According to Moe, their mother
had a very thick accent.
785
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:39,870
And when she called out for her son Sam,
786
00:33:39,870 --> 00:33:41,670
it came out sounding like Shem.
787
00:33:41,670 --> 00:33:45,090
When his brothers took to calling
him Shemp, the name stuck.
788
00:33:45,090 --> 00:33:48,540
- Shemp was the most
darling man I've ever known.
789
00:33:48,540 --> 00:33:52,080
He also was kind to me as a child
790
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,020
because you have to
remember the original group
791
00:33:55,020 --> 00:33:57,480
was Larry, Moe and Shemp.
792
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,760
- He knocked me out when he was serious.
793
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,800
That's when he was scared
to death of his own shadow.
794
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,730
Walked down the street, looked.
795
00:34:02,730 --> 00:34:05,442
He's always looking back, see
was anybody following him.
796
00:34:05,442 --> 00:34:06,810
And he'd go in the hotel room,
797
00:34:06,810 --> 00:34:09,690
he'd lock the doors and put chairs by it
798
00:34:09,690 --> 00:34:11,540
so nobody'd get in, lock the windows.
799
00:34:12,510 --> 00:34:14,130
Always waking up see if anybody's there.
800
00:34:14,130 --> 00:34:15,971
You know, oh, he's scared.
801
00:34:15,971 --> 00:34:17,010
That type of guy, nervous.
802
00:34:17,010 --> 00:34:18,925
That's why he's always
walking around that way.
803
00:34:18,925 --> 00:34:20,393
What the hell is this? (chuckling)
804
00:34:20,393 --> 00:34:21,630
He was that way, you know?
805
00:34:21,630 --> 00:34:23,070
That was his character.
806
00:34:23,070 --> 00:34:25,140
- [Paul] Off camera,
he was a warm, loving,
807
00:34:25,140 --> 00:34:28,140
laid back family man, and he
preferred to spend his time
808
00:34:28,140 --> 00:34:30,540
playing with his son Mort
or watching the fights.
809
00:34:30,540 --> 00:34:32,580
But on screen, he had a character that was
810
00:34:32,580 --> 00:34:34,083
wild and unpredictable.
811
00:34:46,454 --> 00:34:47,371
- Mmm, mmm.
812
00:34:50,053 --> 00:34:50,886
Mmm.
813
00:34:55,399 --> 00:34:58,549
(Shemp laughing)
814
00:34:58,549 --> 00:34:59,878
Mmm.
815
00:34:59,878 --> 00:35:01,046
(iron sizzling)
Oh!
816
00:35:01,046 --> 00:35:01,879
Oh! Oh!
817
00:35:02,985 --> 00:35:04,233
Mmm!
818
00:35:04,233 --> 00:35:07,434
(Shemp grunting)
819
00:35:07,434 --> 00:35:08,267
Oh!
820
00:35:12,753 --> 00:35:15,464
(ironing board thudding)
(Shemp screaming)
821
00:35:15,464 --> 00:35:16,381
Oh! Oh! Oh!
822
00:35:17,345 --> 00:35:18,178
Oh! Oh!
823
00:35:20,593 --> 00:35:21,426
Mmm.
824
00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:25,403
You double crosser!
825
00:35:25,403 --> 00:35:28,125
(ironing board thudding)
826
00:35:28,125 --> 00:35:29,412
Oh!
827
00:35:29,412 --> 00:35:30,245
Oh!
828
00:35:37,399 --> 00:35:38,673
(door slamming)
829
00:35:38,673 --> 00:35:40,029
Oh! Oh!
830
00:35:40,029 --> 00:35:40,953
Oh!
831
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,350
(Shemp grunting)
832
00:35:48,030 --> 00:35:49,597
Wiseguy! This time I'll close ya.
833
00:35:49,597 --> 00:35:52,106
(broom thudding)
Oh, no!
834
00:35:52,106 --> 00:35:53,074
I'm sorry, Moe.
835
00:35:53,074 --> 00:35:54,180
- Uh, think nothin' of it.
836
00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:55,260
- Oh, gee. Thanks.
837
00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:56,707
- You're welcome.
(broom handle thwacking)
838
00:35:56,707 --> 00:35:57,773
- Ooh!
839
00:35:57,773 --> 00:35:59,550
Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
840
00:35:59,550 --> 00:36:02,670
- [Paul] In 1947, Curly was
still partially paralyzed,
841
00:36:02,670 --> 00:36:03,840
but feeling better.
842
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,720
He made a small cameo appearance
with a full head of hair
843
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,550
in the short "Hold That Lion."
844
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:11,070
It was the only time that
the three Howard brothers
845
00:36:11,070 --> 00:36:13,710
appeared on screen together,
but according to Larry,
846
00:36:13,710 --> 00:36:15,840
Curly was set to make another appearance
847
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,840
in the 1949 short "Malice in the Palace."
848
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,290
The scene was shot, but wasn't
used in the final print.
849
00:36:22,290 --> 00:36:23,790
His health was still fragile,
850
00:36:23,790 --> 00:36:25,800
but during this time Curly finally found
851
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,300
what he was looking for.
852
00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:31,380
On July 31st, 1947, he married
a beautiful young woman
853
00:36:31,380 --> 00:36:32,790
named Valerie Newman.
854
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:34,410
They had a baby girl named Janie,
855
00:36:34,410 --> 00:36:38,010
and for the first time in his
life, Curly was truly content.
856
00:36:38,010 --> 00:36:42,720
- They got married in
1947 and he died in 1952.
857
00:36:44,250 --> 00:36:46,080
They had a good marriage,
858
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,460
and they seemed to have a
lot of good times together.
859
00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:53,170
Unfortunately, into the
marriage that he got
860
00:36:54,540 --> 00:36:58,470
strokes and became sick after I was born.
861
00:36:58,470 --> 00:37:01,050
She would want him at
home as much as possible,
862
00:37:01,050 --> 00:37:05,220
but he wasn't from my viewpoint
or what my mother expressed,
863
00:37:05,220 --> 00:37:06,600
at least in parts of the marriage,
864
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,040
an invalid or anything like this.
865
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,650
He, at this time in his life,
866
00:37:10,650 --> 00:37:13,560
enjoyed a family and seemed
to have a certain peace
867
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,200
and contentment, and he
found his niche of being
868
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,920
the family man, which is probably
869
00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:23,790
what he wasn't in an
earlier period in his life.
870
00:37:23,790 --> 00:37:25,790
I don't remember stories, but I remember
871
00:37:27,270 --> 00:37:31,020
bottom lines and what my
father meant to my mother.
872
00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:33,600
And to me that what she expressed was that
873
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,620
he was deeper than a comedy clown.
874
00:37:37,620 --> 00:37:39,150
That not only was he a genius in his own,
875
00:37:39,150 --> 00:37:41,640
but he had a lot more depth
876
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,020
than a lot of people realized,
877
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:46,110
and he took his job seriously.
878
00:37:46,110 --> 00:37:47,880
He loved an audience,
879
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,880
but he worked at making
it look effortless.
880
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:56,430
I think he found something he loved
881
00:37:56,430 --> 00:37:58,260
and he felt good about doing it,
882
00:37:58,260 --> 00:38:01,710
and he found something
that brought him happiness.
883
00:38:01,710 --> 00:38:04,530
One of the things that
my mother told me was
884
00:38:04,530 --> 00:38:09,530
he told her, I hope Janie in
life does what makes her happy,
885
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:11,550
'cause I have found what makes me happy.
886
00:38:11,550 --> 00:38:14,400
And that is the most important
thing in the world to do,
887
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,780
what makes you happy.
888
00:38:15,780 --> 00:38:18,586
I think the worst part is that
he didn't live long enough
889
00:38:18,586 --> 00:38:20,830
that I could have known him as an adult
890
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:24,240
and asked the questions
that I would like to know
891
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:27,423
as an adult about how he
felt about different things.
892
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,470
But it feels good, and I'm
very proud of my heritage.
893
00:38:31,470 --> 00:38:35,103
And I think the older you get,
the more family means to you.
894
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,980
- [Paul] Curly had several more strokes,
895
00:38:37,980 --> 00:38:41,760
and on January 18th, 1952, Curly Howard,
896
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,693
brother, father and Stooge, died.
897
00:38:49,290 --> 00:38:51,240
Although distraught over Curly's passing,
898
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:54,420
Moe, Larry and Shemp continued
to make two-reel comedies.
899
00:38:54,420 --> 00:38:57,270
They even found time for live television.
900
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:59,400
- Gotta get rid of these executives!
901
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,800
They're absolutely driving me crazy!
902
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,213
I've gotta get rid of them.
(sandbag whistling)
903
00:39:03,213 --> 00:39:05,607
(sandbag thudding)
904
00:39:05,607 --> 00:39:08,690
(audience laughing)
905
00:39:10,110 --> 00:39:11,253
That's a sandbag.
906
00:39:12,690 --> 00:39:14,211
That's dangerous, you know that?
907
00:39:14,211 --> 00:39:16,711
That, that could kill someone.
908
00:39:17,716 --> 00:39:20,799
(audience laughing)
909
00:39:22,987 --> 00:39:23,820
Oh!
910
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,350
May I be forgiven for the thought
911
00:39:28,350 --> 00:39:30,834
which is running right through my...
912
00:39:30,834 --> 00:39:33,450
(audience laughing)
913
00:39:33,450 --> 00:39:34,500
Oh, gentleman?
914
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:35,892
- [Stooges] Yes?
915
00:39:35,892 --> 00:39:36,960
(man laughing)
916
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,200
- I mean, now that you're
here from the heat and all,
917
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,670
would you do something for my audience?
918
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:42,660
Would you sing? Would you sing?
919
00:39:42,660 --> 00:39:43,650
- Oh, we'd love to.
- We'd love to.
920
00:39:43,650 --> 00:39:44,573
- Two a day.
921
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:47,460
- Yeah, yeah.
- You take the baritone.
922
00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:48,982
♪ Ah, ah, ah ♪
923
00:39:48,982 --> 00:39:51,982
(Stooges murmuring)
924
00:39:54,008 --> 00:39:55,721
♪ Ah, ah, ah ♪
925
00:39:55,721 --> 00:39:58,320
(Stooges murmuring)
926
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,270
- Boys, here. Wait, look, boys.
927
00:40:00,270 --> 00:40:02,340
Look, see, just stand here.
928
00:40:02,340 --> 00:40:03,730
Stand right around the ink well here,
929
00:40:03,730 --> 00:40:05,520
just, just like that.
930
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,353
Now wait a minute.
931
00:40:06,353 --> 00:40:08,010
Now you don't have to strike a note.
932
00:40:08,010 --> 00:40:10,600
Would you play some
executive music, please?
933
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,237
(bright orchestral music)
934
00:40:12,237 --> 00:40:13,981
♪ When you wore a tulip ♪
935
00:40:13,981 --> 00:40:15,515
♪ A sweet, yellow tulip ♪
936
00:40:15,515 --> 00:40:18,850
♪ And I wore a big, red rose ♪
937
00:40:18,850 --> 00:40:20,731
♪ When you caressed me ♪
938
00:40:20,731 --> 00:40:22,747
♪ 'Twas then Heaven blessed me ♪
939
00:40:22,747 --> 00:40:25,891
♪ What a blessing, no one knows ♪
940
00:40:25,891 --> 00:40:27,735
(sandbag whistling)
941
00:40:27,735 --> 00:40:29,569
(sandbag thudding)
942
00:40:29,569 --> 00:40:32,693
♪ Down where the blue grass grow ♪
943
00:40:32,693 --> 00:40:34,880
♪ Your lips were sweeter than julep ♪
944
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,762
♪ When you wore a tulip ♪
945
00:40:36,762 --> 00:40:40,145
♪ And I wore a big, red rose ♪
946
00:40:40,145 --> 00:40:43,703
♪ I met her in a garden
in an old Kentucky town ♪
947
00:40:43,703 --> 00:40:45,443
♪ The moon was shining down ♪
948
00:40:45,443 --> 00:40:46,920
- No, no, no!
949
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,831
Don't dance out of this position, boys.
950
00:40:49,831 --> 00:40:51,650
Just sing like that.
951
00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:54,600
(audience laughing)
952
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,348
♪ When you wore a tulip ♪
953
00:40:56,348 --> 00:40:58,026
♪ A sweet yellow tulip ♪
954
00:40:58,026 --> 00:40:59,589
(sandbag whistling)
955
00:40:59,589 --> 00:41:01,171
(sandbag thudding)
956
00:41:01,171 --> 00:41:04,171
(audience laughing)
957
00:41:05,319 --> 00:41:09,052
♪ What a blessing, no one knows ♪
958
00:41:09,052 --> 00:41:10,773
♪ You made life cheerie ♪
959
00:41:10,773 --> 00:41:12,581
♪ When you called me dearie ♪
960
00:41:12,581 --> 00:41:15,834
♪ 'Twas down where the blue grass grow ♪
961
00:41:15,834 --> 00:41:17,923
♪ Your lips were sweeter than julep ♪
962
00:41:17,923 --> 00:41:19,701
♪ When you wore a tulip ♪
963
00:41:19,701 --> 00:41:23,277
♪ And I wore a big, red rose ♪
964
00:41:23,277 --> 00:41:26,727
♪ I met her in the garden
in an old Kentucky town ♪
965
00:41:26,727 --> 00:41:28,620
♪ The moon was shining down ♪
966
00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:30,461
♪ She wore a gingham gown ♪
967
00:41:30,461 --> 00:41:33,963
♪ I kissed her as I placed
a yellow tulip in her hair ♪
968
00:41:33,963 --> 00:41:37,804
♪ Upon my coat you pinned a rose so rare ♪
969
00:41:37,804 --> 00:41:39,495
♪ And you wore a tulip ♪
970
00:41:39,495 --> 00:41:41,378
♪ A sweet, yellow tulip ♪
971
00:41:41,378 --> 00:41:44,983
♪ And I wore a big, red rose ♪
972
00:41:44,983 --> 00:41:46,792
♪ When you caressed me ♪
973
00:41:46,792 --> 00:41:48,602
♪ 'Twas then Heaven blessed me ♪
974
00:41:48,602 --> 00:41:52,385
♪ What a blessing, no one knows ♪
975
00:41:52,385 --> 00:41:54,031
♪ You made life cheerie ♪
976
00:41:54,031 --> 00:41:55,709
♪ When you call me dearie ♪
977
00:41:55,709 --> 00:41:59,393
♪ Was down where the blue grass grow ♪
978
00:41:59,393 --> 00:42:01,674
(sandbag whistling)
979
00:42:01,674 --> 00:42:04,453
(sandbag thudding)
(audience laughing)
980
00:42:04,453 --> 00:42:08,490
(bright orchestral music)
981
00:42:08,490 --> 00:42:10,380
- For many years they
were the top-grossing
982
00:42:10,380 --> 00:42:13,020
short subject series in Hollywood.
983
00:42:13,020 --> 00:42:15,150
And they won the Laurel awards
984
00:42:15,150 --> 00:42:17,423
and these other awards
every year that were given
985
00:42:17,423 --> 00:42:18,900
by the theater owners to
the top-grossing film.
986
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:20,910
So they brought in a lot
of money for Columbia
987
00:42:20,910 --> 00:42:21,743
over the years.
988
00:42:22,996 --> 00:42:26,579
(bright orchestral music)
989
00:43:08,220 --> 00:43:10,230
- [Paul] Unfortunately,
the major studios were
990
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:13,050
slowly beginning to
phase out short subjects.
991
00:43:13,050 --> 00:43:15,570
Less time and effort went into
the scripts and production,
992
00:43:15,570 --> 00:43:19,110
and as a result, the end
product was sometimes inferior.
993
00:43:19,110 --> 00:43:21,630
Moe was hoping he could get
Columbia to put the Stooges
994
00:43:21,630 --> 00:43:23,220
into another feature picture,
995
00:43:23,220 --> 00:43:24,930
but before anything could be planned,
996
00:43:24,930 --> 00:43:27,270
fate struck another crushing blow.
997
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:29,497
On November 23rd, 1955,
998
00:43:29,497 --> 00:43:32,280
Shemp was coming home from
an evening at the fights.
999
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,780
- The other guys in the
car started smelling
1000
00:43:33,780 --> 00:43:36,180
something burning and
Shemp's head had slumped down
1001
00:43:36,180 --> 00:43:37,620
on his chest and the cigar was burning
1002
00:43:37,620 --> 00:43:38,520
his lapel or something.
1003
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,560
They looked back and he was dead.
1004
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,210
- [Paul] Shemp had a massive heart attack
1005
00:43:42,210 --> 00:43:43,770
and died instantly.
1006
00:43:43,770 --> 00:43:45,270
Moe was grief-stricken.
1007
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:47,670
He had lost two of his
brothers in a three-year period
1008
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:50,070
and seriously considered
disbanding the act,
1009
00:43:50,070 --> 00:43:53,610
but both he and Larry were still
under contract to Columbia.
1010
00:43:53,610 --> 00:43:56,010
- They made four more
shorts with Joe Palma
1011
00:43:56,010 --> 00:43:57,630
doubling for Shemp.
1012
00:43:57,630 --> 00:43:59,760
And by shooting him from
the rear and having him
1013
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,032
hunch over 'cause he
was a little too tall,
1014
00:44:02,032 --> 00:44:03,960
they were sort of able to pull it off,
1015
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,640
but they did what they had to do.
1016
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,510
Like I said, they were professionals.
1017
00:44:06,510 --> 00:44:08,760
They were from the show must go on school.
1018
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,430
And they went on without missing a beat.
1019
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:13,020
- [Paul] Moe thought
about continuing the act
1020
00:44:13,020 --> 00:44:15,990
as the Two Stooges, but studio
heads dismissed the idea.
1021
00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:18,930
He had to find another third Stooge.
1022
00:44:18,930 --> 00:44:22,350
Joe Besser was born on August 12th, 1907.
1023
00:44:22,350 --> 00:44:23,790
He was popular in his own right,
1024
00:44:23,790 --> 00:44:25,860
having worked with stars
like Olson and Johnson
1025
00:44:25,860 --> 00:44:27,270
and Abbott and Costello,
1026
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:29,970
and even had his own series
of films at Columbia,
1027
00:44:29,970 --> 00:44:33,000
so Moe approached him and
he agreed to be a Stooge.
1028
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,240
- [Joe] Moe and Larry, they were the best.
1029
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:39,090
I enjoyed every minute of it with them.
1030
00:44:39,090 --> 00:44:41,670
In fact, I'll show you
how wonderful they were.
1031
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:44,070
I never liked to be hit with anything.
1032
00:44:44,070 --> 00:44:47,400
And Larry used to say to me,
don't worry, Joe, I'll take it.
1033
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,290
Now that's the kind of guys they were.
1034
00:44:49,290 --> 00:44:54,270
- During '56 and '57, he made
16 shorts with the Stooges,
1035
00:44:54,270 --> 00:44:59,220
which were then shown
during the '57-'58 season.
1036
00:44:59,220 --> 00:45:01,290
In fact, one of 'em I
think even went into '59.
1037
00:45:01,290 --> 00:45:04,410
But at that point, Columbia
decided that they were
1038
00:45:04,410 --> 00:45:05,970
gonna close their shorts department.
1039
00:45:05,970 --> 00:45:09,390
After 24-year run, the Stooges
were sort of outta work.
1040
00:45:09,390 --> 00:45:11,970
- A lot of people don't
know that even though
1041
00:45:11,970 --> 00:45:15,390
they were successful
with their movie career,
1042
00:45:15,390 --> 00:45:16,893
they never made any money.
1043
00:45:18,030 --> 00:45:21,330
In all the years that they
worked at Columbia Studios,
1044
00:45:21,330 --> 00:45:23,430
they never got a raise.
1045
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:26,670
From day one until the
last day that they worked,
1046
00:45:26,670 --> 00:45:28,740
they made the same salary.
1047
00:45:28,740 --> 00:45:31,350
- Supposedly they were just
denied entrance to the lot.
1048
00:45:31,350 --> 00:45:33,090
I mean, they came back
to pick some things up
1049
00:45:33,090 --> 00:45:34,590
and they told 'em, you
don't have a contract here,
1050
00:45:34,590 --> 00:45:35,423
get outta here.
1051
00:45:35,423 --> 00:45:38,490
They didn't have any kind
of farewell party for them.
1052
00:45:38,490 --> 00:45:40,590
They were denied access to the
parking lot and everything,
1053
00:45:40,590 --> 00:45:43,860
which is sort of sad after
a 24-year association.
1054
00:45:43,860 --> 00:45:46,560
Very heartless, but they decided, well,
1055
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,360
we'll go on tour because
that's the way they had
1056
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,770
made all their money in the past anyway
1057
00:45:49,770 --> 00:45:51,451
was going on tour.
1058
00:45:51,451 --> 00:45:52,920
But Besser's wife was
ill and he didn't want to
1059
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,420
travel around the country and leave her,
1060
00:45:54,420 --> 00:45:56,940
so they were forced to
come up with somebody else,
1061
00:45:56,940 --> 00:45:59,070
and they came up with Joe DeRita.
1062
00:45:59,070 --> 00:46:01,020
They tried him out and he worked out.
1063
00:46:01,020 --> 00:46:02,283
He became Curly Joe.
1064
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:06,360
Sort of 'cause he looked like
Curly and his name was Joe,
1065
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,460
so I guess they figured,
well, we already had Curly,
1066
00:46:08,460 --> 00:46:10,770
we already had Joe,
we'll call you Curly Joe,
1067
00:46:10,770 --> 00:46:12,630
and the name stuck.
1068
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:14,850
- [Paul] Joe DeRita
was born Joseph Wordell
1069
00:46:14,850 --> 00:46:17,790
on July 12th, 1909 in Philadelphia.
1070
00:46:17,790 --> 00:46:19,770
Like Joe Besser, DeRita had been a star
1071
00:46:19,770 --> 00:46:21,885
in vaudeville and burlesque,
1072
00:46:21,885 --> 00:46:23,640
so he was prepared for
the rigors of touring.
1073
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,240
- [Gary] They spent 12, 16,
20 weeks a year on the road
1074
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:28,800
doing personal appearance tours.
1075
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,533
And they would do three,
four, five shows a day.
1076
00:46:32,410 --> 00:46:34,047
And that's really where they made
1077
00:46:34,047 --> 00:46:35,370
the most of their money.
1078
00:46:35,370 --> 00:46:39,360
- [Lyla] They did an
act that hadn't changed
1079
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,309
in 35 or 40 years.
1080
00:46:41,309 --> 00:46:43,920
I knew every line of the show.
1081
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,203
- Joe was a very charitable person.
1082
00:46:47,340 --> 00:46:49,090
Wanna tell you something about Joe.
1083
00:46:50,010 --> 00:46:51,240
Larry had a big Lincoln.
1084
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:52,980
See, the corporation paid for their cars.
1085
00:46:52,980 --> 00:46:56,370
Now, Larry had a big Lincoln,
Moe liked sports car.
1086
00:46:56,370 --> 00:46:58,020
He had a Porsche.
1087
00:46:58,020 --> 00:47:02,163
And Joe would get maybe a
Dodge or a Chevy station wagon.
1088
00:47:03,450 --> 00:47:04,800
And everybody would wonder why.
1089
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,663
And I knew why. He told me why.
1090
00:47:07,830 --> 00:47:09,450
They used to trade in every two years,
1091
00:47:09,450 --> 00:47:11,450
and he would buy the station wagon back.
1092
00:47:12,450 --> 00:47:16,380
He had a sister in Baltimore
and she was not of any means.
1093
00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:18,653
And he would buy the station
wagon back from the trade-in
1094
00:47:18,653 --> 00:47:21,510
because he took care
of that station wagon.
1095
00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:23,460
I mean took care of it.
1096
00:47:23,460 --> 00:47:26,670
And gave it to his sister every two years.
1097
00:47:26,670 --> 00:47:28,027
That's the kind of person Joe was.
1098
00:47:28,027 --> 00:47:30,330
I know he took care of his mother.
1099
00:47:30,330 --> 00:47:33,420
Very charitable man, very charitable.
1100
00:47:33,420 --> 00:47:36,063
In fact, to give you ideas of Joe,
1101
00:47:38,123 --> 00:47:40,230
they would send me for different things,
1102
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:41,580
for food or something.
1103
00:47:41,580 --> 00:47:43,200
I'd say now I'm going
out to get a sandwich.
1104
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,370
Anybody want anything?
1105
00:47:44,370 --> 00:47:46,500
This one say yes, this one say something.
1106
00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:48,990
And Joe would say, write it down, Nate,
1107
00:47:48,990 --> 00:47:50,010
and I'll pay at the end of the week.
1108
00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:53,160
'Cause Joe took care of
the checks and everything.
1109
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,900
At the end of the week, whatever I spent,
1110
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:55,770
he'd say how much you spend?
1111
00:47:55,770 --> 00:47:59,610
I said $36 and 10 cents.
I had it all itemized.
1112
00:47:59,610 --> 00:48:01,080
He said, it can't be that much, Nate.
1113
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,250
It's gotta be more than that.
1114
00:48:02,250 --> 00:48:04,110
He says that include a tip
that you give the people,
1115
00:48:04,110 --> 00:48:04,950
you know, when you buy somethin'?
1116
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:07,230
I said, yeah, Joe was everything included.
1117
00:48:07,230 --> 00:48:09,030
Nate, it can't be $36.
1118
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:09,930
You must be mistaken.
1119
00:48:09,930 --> 00:48:12,300
You forgot to write something down.
1120
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:15,050
Write out a check for $50. Here's $50.
1121
00:48:15,050 --> 00:48:17,580
- [Paul] In 1958,
Columbia Pictures released
1122
00:48:17,580 --> 00:48:20,640
78 of the old Curly
two-reelers to television,
1123
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,230
and within one year's time,
1124
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:25,110
their popularity soared to new heights.
1125
00:48:25,110 --> 00:48:27,630
- None of them were really aware of it.
1126
00:48:27,630 --> 00:48:30,610
When they came to Pittsburgh
1127
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,160
on their last, you know,
1128
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,660
the reoccurrence of the
popularity after television,
1129
00:48:39,660 --> 00:48:42,570
they got off the train
'cause they came by train
1130
00:48:42,570 --> 00:48:43,403
at that time.
1131
00:48:43,403 --> 00:48:45,450
I think it was 1959.
1132
00:48:45,450 --> 00:48:48,420
And they saw all these
people at the station,
1133
00:48:48,420 --> 00:48:51,270
and they wondered who
the VIP was on the train,
1134
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:54,030
not realizing the crowds were for them.
1135
00:48:54,030 --> 00:48:58,050
They had absolutely no idea
of how popular they were.
1136
00:48:58,050 --> 00:48:59,970
- [Paul] Joe DeRita
brought his own comic style
1137
00:48:59,970 --> 00:49:00,803
to the act.
1138
00:49:00,803 --> 00:49:02,520
- [Gary] And obviously
he had big shoes to fill,
1139
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,035
but he was a veteran performer, too.
1140
00:49:05,035 --> 00:49:06,300
It wasn't like he was just a nobody.
1141
00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:08,906
He wasn't perhaps as well
known as Joe Besser was
1142
00:49:08,906 --> 00:49:11,040
at the time when Besser came in.
1143
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,573
- Most everything was
discussed with Larry and Moe,
1144
00:49:13,573 --> 00:49:15,600
where they would take something,
1145
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,250
or do something or anything.
1146
00:49:17,250 --> 00:49:19,113
Not one person made the decision.
1147
00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:24,840
Then after Joe joined him,
Joe was like a junior partner.
1148
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,730
Let's put it that way.
1149
00:49:26,730 --> 00:49:30,483
And Larry, after a couple
years said to Moe, this I know.
1150
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,570
Let's make him an even partner.
1151
00:49:33,570 --> 00:49:36,123
I don't know what the
partnership was at that time.
1152
00:49:37,260 --> 00:49:40,413
Maybe it was 40, 40, and 20.
1153
00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:42,910
So Moe says, why?
1154
00:49:42,910 --> 00:49:46,080
We been for years this way, you know?
1155
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,170
Why should he get part of the good amount?
1156
00:49:49,170 --> 00:49:52,530
Then Larry says, look, between 20 and 33%
1157
00:49:52,530 --> 00:49:54,180
is not that much difference, Moe,
1158
00:49:54,180 --> 00:49:57,060
and it'll make him feel
like he's part of us,
1159
00:49:57,060 --> 00:49:59,550
like 'cause he feels like he's a nothin',
1160
00:49:59,550 --> 00:50:01,950
he's a drag owner. Let's make him feel.
1161
00:50:01,950 --> 00:50:04,170
And that's what they did.
They made him an even partner.
1162
00:50:04,170 --> 00:50:06,540
Larry forced it all on
Moe because I told ya,
1163
00:50:06,540 --> 00:50:08,160
Moe was thrifty.
1164
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,470
But I didn't say cheap. He was thrifty.
1165
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:12,240
- Outside of their working relationship,
1166
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:14,860
it was not really
1167
00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:17,220
a close friendship
1168
00:50:17,220 --> 00:50:20,070
because they spend so much time together
1169
00:50:20,070 --> 00:50:22,950
in their working
relationship that they each
1170
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:25,710
went their separate ways
with their families.
1171
00:50:25,710 --> 00:50:30,270
They got together on big occasions,
1172
00:50:30,270 --> 00:50:33,210
but they each had their own families
1173
00:50:33,210 --> 00:50:35,940
and they didn't spend
that much time at home,
1174
00:50:35,940 --> 00:50:37,530
so that when they were at home,
1175
00:50:37,530 --> 00:50:40,050
they wanted to spend as
much time as they could
1176
00:50:40,050 --> 00:50:41,520
with their families.
1177
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,510
So they did not socialize
1178
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,190
on a day-to-day basis.
1179
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:49,710
- Joe DeRita was a very funny guy.
1180
00:50:49,710 --> 00:50:52,320
Nobody realizes his sense of humor.
1181
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,440
And Joe would like once
in a while, say to me,
1182
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,670
hey, Nate, it's very quiet.
1183
00:50:56,670 --> 00:50:58,800
Let's jazz up the place.
1184
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,300
I said, what do you wanna do, Joe?
1185
00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:01,890
And Joe and I were very friendly.
1186
00:51:01,890 --> 00:51:03,450
He said, let's play cards together.
1187
00:51:03,450 --> 00:51:04,950
He says, we'll play Gin.
1188
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:07,410
You make some dumb moves and
I'll make some dumb moves,
1189
00:51:07,410 --> 00:51:09,450
an you'll see what'll happen.
1190
00:51:09,450 --> 00:51:12,240
So I'm playing Gin and Larry's
looking over my shoulder,
1191
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:14,190
and I'll make a dumb move.
1192
00:51:14,190 --> 00:51:16,680
Oh, what a stupid move you made, you know?
1193
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,120
I did it purposely.
1194
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,423
And then Moe would go over to
Joe's hand and look at his.
1195
00:51:22,410 --> 00:51:23,670
Joe, do you know how to play Gin?
1196
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:24,503
You really know how to play?
1197
00:51:24,503 --> 00:51:26,220
I don't think you know how to play Gin.
1198
00:51:26,220 --> 00:51:27,720
So Larry would say, let me take your hand.
1199
00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:28,620
I'll show you how to play.
1200
00:51:28,620 --> 00:51:31,410
And I would go look at him.
Moe would take Joe's hand.
1201
00:51:31,410 --> 00:51:33,960
And then the two of them would
start fighting each other.
1202
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,300
There would be plenty paying for pennies.
1203
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:38,220
One, two, and three, Knock Rummy or Gin
1204
00:51:38,220 --> 00:51:39,480
or anything like that.
1205
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,130
And they would argue like hell.
1206
00:51:41,130 --> 00:51:43,860
Joe and I would stray in the
other room and laugh like hell.
1207
00:51:43,860 --> 00:51:46,440
He says, we started somethin'. (laughing)
1208
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,910
- [Paul] The boys were back on top,
1209
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:50,730
and the studio that had fired them in 1957
1210
00:51:50,730 --> 00:51:53,070
wanted them back, this time for a starring
1211
00:51:53,070 --> 00:51:55,767
feature picture called
"Have Rocket, Will Travel."
1212
00:51:57,630 --> 00:51:58,590
- [Announcer] Extra!
1213
00:51:58,590 --> 00:52:00,930
Scientists establish visual communication
1214
00:52:00,930 --> 00:52:02,580
with rocket in flight!
1215
00:52:02,580 --> 00:52:04,680
History is being made
on the probing grounds
1216
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,330
of the National Space Foundation,
1217
00:52:06,330 --> 00:52:08,310
as scientists prepare for the ultimate
1218
00:52:08,310 --> 00:52:10,740
total triumph over space.
1219
00:52:10,740 --> 00:52:13,380
Within a matter of moments
you will, for the first time,
1220
00:52:13,380 --> 00:52:16,143
see the interior of a
space rocket in flight.
1221
00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:18,210
Here's the countdown.
1222
00:52:18,210 --> 00:52:22,380
Five, four, three, two, one.
1223
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,473
Blast off!
1224
00:52:25,796 --> 00:52:28,110
And now the wonders of
electronic science enable us
1225
00:52:28,110 --> 00:52:30,033
to see the interior of the rocket.
1226
00:52:30,873 --> 00:52:32,910
Oh no! What's this?
1227
00:52:32,910 --> 00:52:34,710
Oh my! Not them.
1228
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:37,200
Yes, it's the Three Stooges
who are making history,
1229
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,000
all right, but laugh history,
1230
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,587
in their first full length
feature motion picture
1231
00:52:41,587 --> 00:52:43,633
"Have Rocket, Will Travel."
1232
00:52:43,633 --> 00:52:45,835
- They're throwing things at us!
1233
00:52:45,835 --> 00:52:47,344
- Duck!
1234
00:52:47,344 --> 00:52:51,560
Try to contact earth.
1235
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:52,393
- Ah!
1236
00:52:53,799 --> 00:52:56,296
- Quiet! Oh, oh, oh, oh!
1237
00:52:56,296 --> 00:52:59,162
(Stooges yelping)
1238
00:52:59,162 --> 00:53:02,250
(lighthearted playful music)
1239
00:53:02,250 --> 00:53:03,810
- No change in their course, huh?
1240
00:53:03,810 --> 00:53:04,830
- None.
1241
00:53:04,830 --> 00:53:06,450
They can't control it.
1242
00:53:06,450 --> 00:53:09,300
The ship's on an automatic
course to the planet Venus.
1243
00:53:09,300 --> 00:53:10,710
- We got contact.
1244
00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:12,595
Take that down, quick.
1245
00:53:12,595 --> 00:53:15,678
(morse code beeping)
1246
00:53:18,510 --> 00:53:19,598
What's it say?
1247
00:53:19,598 --> 00:53:21,734
- Beep-beep-beep-beep-beep-beep-beep-beep.
1248
00:53:21,734 --> 00:53:23,433
(hand smacking)
- Get outta here.
1249
00:53:23,433 --> 00:53:24,780
- Hey, the television's on.
1250
00:53:24,780 --> 00:53:27,720
- [Announcer] You heard about
the Sputnik and the Mutnik.
1251
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:29,610
Well, here comes the Laughnik,
1252
00:53:29,610 --> 00:53:33,390
a movie that's a Three Stooge
pilot on a three stage rocket.
1253
00:53:33,390 --> 00:53:34,680
- We're landing!
1254
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,550
- [Announcer] For the first time,
1255
00:53:35,550 --> 00:53:39,810
the world's craziest comedians
are really out of this world.
1256
00:53:39,810 --> 00:53:40,643
- Admit it.
1257
00:53:42,097 --> 00:53:43,236
♪ We did it ♪
1258
00:53:43,236 --> 00:53:44,457
♪ Have rocket ♪
1259
00:53:44,457 --> 00:53:47,707
♪ Will travel in space ♪
1260
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,650
(teleporter whirring)
1261
00:53:52,650 --> 00:53:55,800
- [Automobile] You are expected. Enter.
1262
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,573
- A talkin' automobile.
1263
00:53:57,573 --> 00:53:58,875
- [Automobile] I am waiting.
1264
00:53:58,875 --> 00:54:00,376
- I am Larry.
1265
00:54:00,376 --> 00:54:01,209
- I am Moe.
1266
00:54:01,209 --> 00:54:03,270
- And I am Curly Joe.
1267
00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:05,139
Take us to your leader.
1268
00:54:05,139 --> 00:54:07,413
(lightning booming)
1269
00:54:07,413 --> 00:54:10,133
- Look!
1270
00:54:10,133 --> 00:54:12,432
- They're the spitting
image of us, ain't they?
1271
00:54:12,432 --> 00:54:14,550
- Well, they look pretty good for robots.
1272
00:54:14,550 --> 00:54:17,340
- [Curly Joe] They made Moe
real ugly, didn't they, Larry?
1273
00:54:17,340 --> 00:54:20,170
- I don't know. I think
he's uglier in person.
1274
00:54:20,170 --> 00:54:21,420
(fists thwacking)
1275
00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:23,100
- [Announcer] Don't miss
this hilarious mixture
1276
00:54:23,100 --> 00:54:26,010
of missiles and mirth as
the Three Stooges blast off
1277
00:54:26,010 --> 00:54:29,150
in the biggest comedy bonanza in years.
1278
00:54:29,150 --> 00:54:32,817
(sweeping orchestral music)
1279
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,330
- [Paul] The Stooges did
several more features
1280
00:54:39,330 --> 00:54:41,940
between 1960 and 1969,
1281
00:54:41,940 --> 00:54:43,597
and their last film for Columbia was
1282
00:54:43,597 --> 00:54:45,757
"The Outlaws Is Coming."
1283
00:54:45,757 --> 00:54:50,490
- "The Outlaws Is Coming." (laughing)
1284
00:54:50,490 --> 00:54:52,800
What a wonderful experience.
1285
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,660
I think we did that in
1286
00:54:54,660 --> 00:54:59,400
1964 or '65, I'm not sure.
1287
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,630
Our first meeting at the Columbia ranch,
1288
00:55:03,630 --> 00:55:05,430
one morning, quite early.
1289
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:09,150
And I went into makeup
and got on my Western duds
1290
00:55:09,150 --> 00:55:10,503
and came out in the street,
1291
00:55:11,490 --> 00:55:14,223
and I saw Larry Fine sitting in a chair.
1292
00:55:15,150 --> 00:55:16,690
And I think his wife was
1293
00:55:18,570 --> 00:55:21,030
yelling at him about something.
1294
00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:24,810
And (laughing) then actually the guys
1295
00:55:24,810 --> 00:55:29,013
were very serious off
camera, their demeanors.
1296
00:55:30,810 --> 00:55:35,550
They were really very serious
artists in their own way.
1297
00:55:35,550 --> 00:55:38,580
And I was impressed with
1298
00:55:38,580 --> 00:55:41,610
how quiet they were
1299
00:55:41,610 --> 00:55:44,193
in respect to their screen persona.
1300
00:55:45,090 --> 00:55:47,980
I thought Moe basically
1301
00:55:49,020 --> 00:55:50,970
in talking to him here and there
1302
00:55:50,970 --> 00:55:54,540
while we were filming was a kind man,
1303
00:55:54,540 --> 00:55:57,663
and serious,
1304
00:55:58,620 --> 00:56:03,363
almost professorial in a way.
1305
00:56:05,070 --> 00:56:08,310
Larry was a warm
1306
00:56:08,310 --> 00:56:09,900
sort of person,
1307
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:14,650
and always had a word for somebody
1308
00:56:15,978 --> 00:56:18,003
and would always spend time.
1309
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,793
Joe DeRita was Curly at that time,
1310
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:27,900
and he was more gregarious
1311
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:32,613
and I think outgoing and communicative.
1312
00:56:34,260 --> 00:56:35,970
I enjoyed all of them,
1313
00:56:35,970 --> 00:56:38,680
but I suppose I spent more time
1314
00:56:40,020 --> 00:56:42,160
talking with Joe
1315
00:56:43,350 --> 00:56:45,750
because he seemed to
wanna talk a little more
1316
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:46,593
than the others.
1317
00:56:47,460 --> 00:56:51,390
There were a number of
silly, bizarre, wacko things
1318
00:56:51,390 --> 00:56:53,320
that happened while we were filming
1319
00:56:54,217 --> 00:56:55,827
"The Outlaws Is Coming."
1320
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,390
As guest villains,
1321
00:57:00,390 --> 00:57:02,880
we had disc jockeys
1322
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,770
from all around the country,
1323
00:57:04,770 --> 00:57:08,970
and Norman Marr and the Stooges figured
1324
00:57:08,970 --> 00:57:11,190
that that would help promote the movie
1325
00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:13,950
if they put the disc
jockeys in the pictures,
1326
00:57:13,950 --> 00:57:16,200
villains, gave 'em roles.
1327
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,620
And so, you can imagine with maybe
1328
00:57:19,620 --> 00:57:22,230
20 radio jocks
1329
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:26,550
all competing for attention,
it was kind of silly and fun.
1330
00:57:26,550 --> 00:57:30,930
And I think the funniest little incident
1331
00:57:30,930 --> 00:57:32,850
with the picture that I remember,
1332
00:57:32,850 --> 00:57:35,820
the main thrust of the plot
was that we were trying
1333
00:57:35,820 --> 00:57:37,828
to save the buffalo,
1334
00:57:37,828 --> 00:57:40,200
and I was the young lawyer from Boston,
1335
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,940
and I had the same interests
1336
00:57:41,940 --> 00:57:42,900
and that's how we got together.
1337
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:45,720
But anyway, so we spent
the movie trying to
1338
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,430
save the buffalo.
1339
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:50,070
The wrap party at the end of the movie,
1340
00:57:50,070 --> 00:57:53,220
Moe says, "Okay, everyone's
invited to my place
1341
00:57:53,220 --> 00:57:56,430
in Bel Air for a buffalo barbecue."
1342
00:57:56,430 --> 00:57:59,770
And that sort of typifies
1343
00:58:01,380 --> 00:58:03,573
these three restless nights.
1344
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,763
I never really spent much time
with him away from the set.
1345
00:58:10,410 --> 00:58:13,320
People don't do that often in Hollywood.
1346
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,720
You're doing a series
and you spend 18 hours
1347
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,210
a day with people and you just kinda wanna
1348
00:58:18,210 --> 00:58:19,850
get away from 'em.
1349
00:58:19,850 --> 00:58:22,113
I think it's probably
more helpful that way.
1350
00:58:23,460 --> 00:58:25,980
I wanted to go home with
the Stooges every night,
1351
00:58:25,980 --> 00:58:29,103
but they wouldn't let me. (laughing)
1352
00:58:30,210 --> 00:58:33,090
- [Paul] In 1969, Moe, Larry and Curly Joe
1353
00:58:33,090 --> 00:58:36,150
started work on a self-produced
comedy travel log series
1354
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:37,680
called "Kook's Tour."
1355
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,050
During the last few days
of filming the pilot,
1356
00:58:40,050 --> 00:58:44,040
Larry suffered a major stroke,
which forced him to retire.
1357
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,740
- They were able to patch
together a one-hour version
1358
00:58:46,740 --> 00:58:49,500
of the pilot, which
nothing ever happened with,
1359
00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:53,160
but that was really the end
of the Stooges as we know it.
1360
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,820
- And once he was able to
1361
00:58:56,820 --> 00:58:58,350
really handle himself,
1362
00:58:58,350 --> 00:59:00,887
he was able to speak pretty well again,
1363
00:59:00,887 --> 00:59:03,453
'cause in the beginning he could not talk.
1364
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,540
He decided he wanted to go live at
1365
00:59:06,540 --> 00:59:10,803
the Screen Actor's Guild country house.
1366
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:16,560
And he applied to go into that.
1367
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:17,940
That's in Woodland Hills.
1368
00:59:17,940 --> 00:59:19,740
It's a magnificent place.
1369
00:59:19,740 --> 00:59:22,560
And he moved into that, and he lived there
1370
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,930
for the last six years of his life.
1371
00:59:24,930 --> 00:59:26,370
- There were a lot of
other people that were
1372
00:59:26,370 --> 00:59:29,550
in the motion picture home
too that he got friendly with,
1373
00:59:29,550 --> 00:59:33,360
and he'd befriended other
people in Hollywood.
1374
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,420
Ed Asner, the guy from the
"Mary Tyler Moore Show,"
1375
00:59:36,420 --> 00:59:38,160
and couple other people.
1376
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,540
Ted Knight, also from that show.
1377
00:59:39,540 --> 00:59:41,460
I know that they played
shuffleboard together
1378
00:59:41,460 --> 00:59:42,750
and stuff like that.
1379
00:59:42,750 --> 00:59:44,970
- [Paul] It was obvious that
Larry couldn't continue,
1380
00:59:44,970 --> 00:59:47,580
so Moe and Curly Joe
contacted their old friend
1381
00:59:47,580 --> 00:59:50,400
character actor Emil
Sitka to assume the role
1382
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,810
of the middle Stooge.
1383
00:59:51,810 --> 00:59:52,980
- They had played with the idea,
1384
00:59:52,980 --> 00:59:55,320
and Sitka was supposedly
even hired and signed,
1385
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,180
signed, sealed and delivered
to work on a picture,
1386
00:59:57,180 --> 01:00:00,720
but things fell through, and
that group that would've been
1387
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,720
Moe, Sitka as the Larry role,
1388
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,110
and Joe DeRita has the third
Stooge never materialized
1389
01:00:07,110 --> 01:00:09,210
as a group on film.
1390
01:00:09,210 --> 01:00:11,010
- Moe started to work as a solo.
1391
01:00:11,010 --> 01:00:13,230
He gave interviews, lectured at colleges,
1392
01:00:13,230 --> 01:00:15,180
and made dozens of TV appearances.
1393
01:00:15,180 --> 01:00:17,550
And even though Larry was
still partially paralyzed,
1394
01:00:17,550 --> 01:00:20,610
he too was able to appear
on local talk shows.
1395
01:00:20,610 --> 01:00:23,370
He seemed to be doing well when
he suffered a second stroke,
1396
01:00:23,370 --> 01:00:25,320
which further slurred his speech.
1397
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,510
Two months later, he had a massive stroke,
1398
01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:28,980
which put him in a coma.
1399
01:00:28,980 --> 01:00:33,980
Larry died two weeks later
on January 24th, 1975.
1400
01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:36,030
Moe was heartbroken over the news
1401
01:00:36,030 --> 01:00:37,560
of his old friend's passing,
1402
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,620
but continued to work, even
though he developed lung cancer.
1403
01:00:40,620 --> 01:00:42,780
- They were trying to work
on a film as late as '74
1404
01:00:42,780 --> 01:00:46,530
with Sitka again, but apparently
Sitka kept getting a call.
1405
01:00:46,530 --> 01:00:47,700
You know, we're gonna film next week,
1406
01:00:47,700 --> 01:00:48,720
we're gonna film next week,
1407
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,130
we're gonna film next week,
1408
01:00:50,130 --> 01:00:52,380
and then Moe died and
that was the end of it.
1409
01:00:52,380 --> 01:00:57,120
- Moe died May 4th, 1975,
just four months after Larry.
1410
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,715
Moe's passing brought
an end to the world's
1411
01:00:59,715 --> 01:01:01,065
longest running comedy act.
1412
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,620
Joe Besser continued
to work in TV and films
1413
01:01:04,620 --> 01:01:06,600
and take care of his
wife Erna until his death
1414
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,030
on March 1st, 1988.
1415
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:11,010
Joe DeRita retired from show business
1416
01:01:11,010 --> 01:01:13,440
and lived happily in North
Hollywood with his wife Jean
1417
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,520
until he passed away on July 3rd, 1993.
1418
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,850
The Stooges are gone, but
their legacy of comic mayhem
1419
01:01:20,850 --> 01:01:22,920
will make us laugh for generations.
1420
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:27,000
- To me, the Stooges weren't
based on any kind of reality.
1421
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,713
As a kid I even knew that.
1422
01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:32,070
I liked seeing people get
hit in the head with hammers.
1423
01:01:32,070 --> 01:01:34,050
- Then he smacks 'em
on the head like that.
1424
01:01:34,050 --> 01:01:34,883
- Oh!
1425
01:01:34,883 --> 01:01:37,770
- But I've also been able to create
1426
01:01:37,770 --> 01:01:41,130
original characters
based on the Larry voice,
1427
01:01:41,130 --> 01:01:43,050
like for cartoons like "Ren and Stimpy,"
1428
01:01:43,050 --> 01:01:46,170
where Stimpy the cat is,
1429
01:01:46,170 --> 01:01:48,930
his voice is very much
based on Larry Fine,
1430
01:01:48,930 --> 01:01:50,160
except it's all jazzed up.
1431
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,070
- I think the Stooges
will be popular long after
1432
01:01:53,070 --> 01:01:55,500
we are all gone because
1433
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:58,837
they are poking fun at life.
1434
01:01:58,837 --> 01:02:02,340
- You know, there are some
shows that have that effect.
1435
01:02:02,340 --> 01:02:05,670
Make people laugh and
smile and hit each other.
1436
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:07,403
I don't know. (chuckling)
1437
01:02:07,403 --> 01:02:08,400
- Soitenly!
1438
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,888
- [Man] Would you play some
executive music, please?
1439
01:02:10,888 --> 01:02:12,667
(bright orchestral music)
1440
01:02:12,667 --> 01:02:14,015
♪ When you wore a tulip ♪
1441
01:02:14,015 --> 01:02:15,868
♪ A sweet, yellow tulip ♪
1442
01:02:15,868 --> 01:02:19,465
♪ And I wore a big, red rose ♪
1443
01:02:19,465 --> 01:02:20,994
♪ When you caressed me ♪
1444
01:02:20,994 --> 01:02:22,697
♪ It was then heaven blessed me ♪
1445
01:02:22,697 --> 01:02:26,509
♪ What a blessing, no one knows ♪
1446
01:02:26,509 --> 01:02:28,294
♪ You made life cheerie ♪
1447
01:02:28,294 --> 01:02:29,994
♪ When you called me dearie ♪
1448
01:02:29,994 --> 01:02:33,090
♪ It was down where the blue grass grows ♪
1449
01:02:33,090 --> 01:02:35,198
♪ Your lips were sweeter than julep ♪
1450
01:02:35,198 --> 01:02:36,996
♪ When you wore a tulip ♪
1451
01:02:36,996 --> 01:02:40,499
♪ And I wore a big, red rose ♪
1452
01:02:40,499 --> 01:02:43,999
♪ I met her in a garden
in an old Kentucky town ♪
1453
01:02:43,999 --> 01:02:45,810
♪ The moon was shining down ♪
1454
01:02:45,810 --> 01:02:47,310
- [Man] You! No! No!
1455
01:02:47,310 --> 01:02:50,163
Don't dance out of this position, boys.
1456
01:02:50,163 --> 01:02:51,600
Just sing like that.
1457
01:02:54,878 --> 01:02:56,827
♪ When you wore a tulip ♪
1458
01:02:56,827 --> 01:02:58,216
♪ A sweet, yellow tulip ♪
1459
01:02:58,216 --> 01:02:59,930
(sandbag whistling)
1460
01:02:59,930 --> 01:03:01,442
(sandbag thudding)
1461
01:03:01,442 --> 01:03:04,197
(audience laughing)
1462
01:03:04,197 --> 01:03:05,795
♪ 'Twas then Heaven blessed me ♪
1463
01:03:05,795 --> 01:03:09,438
♪ What a blessing, no one knows ♪
1464
01:03:09,438 --> 01:03:11,220
♪ You made life cheerie ♪
1465
01:03:11,220 --> 01:03:13,228
♪ When you called me dearie ♪
1466
01:03:13,228 --> 01:03:16,395
- [Curly] Wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah.
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