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These are the sharks--
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five powerful self-made
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investors worth billions.
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Tonight they will make
or break the dreams
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of hopeful entrepreneurs.
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In the tank, the sharks
are ready to invest
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using their own money,
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but only for the right person
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with the right idea.
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Do you want to be rich or not?
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I do want to be rich.
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Well, let's get focused
on that, buddy.
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- As of right now,
- you're nobody to everybody.
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- No one can stop me from what
- I want to accomplish.
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In these tough economic times,
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- the sharks are the last chance
- for many entrepreneurs
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- to get the financial backing
- they desperately need.
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It was always emotional for me.
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Money has no soul.
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It doesn't care.
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I'll make you a better offer.
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I'll give you $1 million.
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Who are the sharks?
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Kevin O'Leary knows
how to make money.
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- He started a software business
- in his basement,
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which he eventually
sold for $3.2 billion.
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Barbara corcoran--
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this fiery real estate mogul
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turned a $1,000 loan
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into a real estate empire
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worth hundreds of millions
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in the shark-filled
city of Manhattan.
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- Kevin harrington
- is the king of infomercials.
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- His genius marketing
- of products
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- such as the Obama coin
- and the rock 'n roll stepper
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have amassed billions
of dollars in sales.
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Daymond John literally turned
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rags to riches
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with his clothing brand fubu,
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- which has grossed over
- $6 billion
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- in worldwide retail sales
- to date.
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And Robert herjavec, who sold
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his Internet companies
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for over $350 million.
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Now this self-made
technology magnate
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is a venture capitalist and runs
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his own software company.
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If the sharks hear a good idea,
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they'll fight each other
for a piece of it.
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Robert just offered you nothing
and told you to pound sand.
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No, I didn't.
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I didn't do that.
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- I gave him a shot at the brass
- ring. you're giving him nothing.
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You've just seen a guy
screw his partners.
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That's what happened here.
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But first the entrepreneurs
must convince the sharks
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to invest the full amount
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they're asking for
or they'll walk away
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with nothing.
What would I pay for that?
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Uh, $9.50.
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Stop the madness.
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Are you out of your mind?
Yes.
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Ouch.
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I'm out.
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- I'm out also.
- He's out, I'm out.
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♪♪♪
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♪ the best things
in life are free ♪
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♪ but that ain't really
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good enough for me ♪
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♪ I need money ♪
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♪ that's what I want ♪
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♪ that's what I want ♪
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♪ that's what I want ♪
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♪ that's what I want ♪
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♪ that's what I want ♪
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♪ what I want ♪
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♪ that's what I want ♪
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First into the shark
tank is Craig French,
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who believes his business
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- could be the next big thing
- in fashion.
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♪♪♪
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My name is Craig French,
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from long island, New York.
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- My partner deniz and I
- came up with a clothing company
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called crooked jaw.
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I came up with the name
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after breaking my jaw
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playing college lacrosse.
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We started off just producing
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a couple of t-shirts,
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and immediately, we got
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response from people.
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- Some happy customers,
- they'll be getting this package
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in a couple of days.
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- Hey, Craig. How are you?
- I just wanted to come in
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and show you a couple
new designs we got.
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- I know we did well with them
- in the last color,
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- so we figured we'd do 'em-- - oh, this is nice. This is sweet.
- This will sell really well.
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Cool.
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I think what the sharks
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can bring to our
business is enormous.
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- This one store
- is not gonna pay the bills,
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that's for sure.
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- Their experience
- in the business world,
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their connections,
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- the networking they could do
- for us is immense,
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but in particular, daymond John.
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- Daymond John is the founder
- of fubu clothing.
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Started off in his mother's
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house, similar to myself.
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And it slowly turned into
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a multimillion-dollar
clothing business.
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I'm 26 years old and
still living at home.
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- As all my friends
- are out partying,
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- you know,
- living the bachelor life,
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I'm home living with my mother
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just to keep my business afloat.
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Craig, you have to eat.
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Okay, hon?
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- My mother has been there for me
- from the get-go.
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She's been amazingly supportive.
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It would mean the world to me
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- to be able to give back to her
- everything she's given to me.
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♪♪♪
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Hello, guys, my name
is Craig French.
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I am here with my
clothing company
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called crooked jaw.
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We are seeking a
$200,000 investment
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for 20% equity of the company.
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We are targeting a market
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that is booming right
now-- the m.M.A.--
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mixed martial arts industry.
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It's huge right now with
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the young kids, and we believe
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- that we could be the next
- big brand in the industry.
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Have you sold any product yet?
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We have sold about 1,500 units.
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We're in about ten
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- mom-and-pop
- surf-and-skate shops
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on long island.
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We just opened up, uh,
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our own online retail shop
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about three weeks ago.
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What's on the t-shirt
there, the red one?
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Can I see a design just to get
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an idea of the flavor of it?
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Absolutely.
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That's a nasty-looking clown.
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Show everybody.
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- Craig, how did you
- come up with this?
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Were you a designer guy?
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I got my jaw broken.
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- Uh, freshman year of college,
- I was playing lacrosse,
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- and I shot and scored
- the game-winning goal.
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Everyone celebrates.
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I got hit at the same exact time
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as I--as I scored the goal.
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I've had extensive oral
surgery on my face,
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had to cut off my
ear, go into my head.
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Wow. you really got hit.
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Oh, yeah. It was always
emotional for me.
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Are these your partners?
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These are my two
partners right here.
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And this is our beautiful model.
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- So it's a great story.
- Thank you.
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- Love the t-shirt.
- I'm gonna buy that.
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Would you give me that
t-shirt for free?
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You could have it, yes.
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All right. Daymond, how many
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guys like that are out there?
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There are a thousand
guys like this.
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Ouch.
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And if he's only in
stores in long island,
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that means he never
went to a trade show--
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yeah, we went to our
first trade show
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about three months
ago in San Diego.
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Do you have orders?
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- Um, no. We came back with
- zero orders from the trade show.
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But we made amazing
contacts at--
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daymond, isn't that
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a bad sign--zero orders?
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Well, if-- I'm not a
fashion guy, but zero
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orders doesn't sound good.
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In... it depends.
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Well, it's the economy.
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It's usually horrific.
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It's bad.
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For right now, if
there's nothing there
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that really lends
itself to m.M.A...
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What about this?
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Besides the jaw
idea itself, um--
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is he one in a thousand?
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Mm. 10,000, maybe.
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If you go to the trade show,
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you're gonna see various amount
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of brands like this,
so unless he has
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hard paper in sales
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or some of the most key m.M.A.
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Guys wearing the
product-- I can--i could
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get into all that with you.
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- Obviously with
- the bad economy right now,
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- a lot of companies
- don't want to risk
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a brand-new startup company,
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but we have an online retail
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shop that we could pursue,
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as well as every major m.m.a.
event,
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- we get opportunities to sponsor
- the most top-flight athletes
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on that card.
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Craig, they're asking
you for money.
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Yeah, we all get those.
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Yeah, I mean, that--i could
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sponsor an m.M.A event.
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- But you have to have a brand
- that the kids are gonna like
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when the guy walks out--
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no, they just want my money
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for advertising.
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They just want our money.
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So, Craig, I'm gonna
summarize it for me.
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Okay.
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Um, you're not doing a good job
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of impressing daymond.
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So if--if Mr. clothing guy--
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I would like to show
daymond my clothing,
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- because he hasn't even asked - to see it.
- Show me. I-i, you know...
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Daymond, I-i came--
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because I came from where you--
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where you came from,
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so I do not want to be harsh.
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Okay.
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Oh, really?
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I can't imagine what--
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you asked me the question.
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What are you like
when you're harsh?
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Daymond, if you're not
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impressed with this stuff,
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then, you know, I--
I really like that.
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Oh, that's cool.
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We have our own zippers--
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- you know, to be very honest,
- guys at your level,
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you either have to have
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a talent attached to the brand
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or a retailer who is guaranteed
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to put it out.
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With your money,
daymond, I could go
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- and fly to these places,
- we could have sit-down meetings.
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- This--this day and age,
- you mail this to 'em,
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- they're gonna send you
- the paper,
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- they're gonna
- send you the orders,
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and that's the way that
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I would back this company.
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We have to continue to build
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the brand with your money
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and make this a brand
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that they can't resist.
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And I think we have
an amazing brand.
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We have built this
brand nationwide
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- in three years
- with very little money--
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I do think that you
may have something--
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are you looking at
yourself ten years ago?
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I'm gonna--I'm gonna read
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you guys a little something
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- I have
- on all of our hangtags.
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- "There is no easy way to achieve
- what I desire most.
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"Perseverance will allow me
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to fulfill my dreams.
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- No one can stop me from what
- I want to accomplish."
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I wrote that quote.
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It's on every hangtag
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we give to our products.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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I've got something here.
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- I'm money.
- I don't give a damn.
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I just want to have more money.
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That's what this says.
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Absolutely.
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I don't understand how
to make that happen
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with what you're telling me.
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Because, you know, I'm speaking
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a little bit to daymond here.
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- There's a million guys
- out there like me.
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- I don't think there's
- a million guys like us
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- that have the passion
- and pursuit that we have
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that come from a real place.
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I'm--I'm listening to you,
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and it's very impressive.
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- I mean, I like your,
- you know--
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I would buy into the
brand because of you.
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But the brand itself right now,
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it needs more legs.
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You don't have orders--
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that's why I'm here.
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I need to buy sweat equity that
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you already have put in there.
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- All you've done
- is manufactured something.
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- I could manufacture it.
- That's not the problem.
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I need you to have a following.
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With very little money, we've
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created an amazing following.
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What are your sales?
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What are our sales?
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They're very insignificant.
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Very insignificant.
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Like what? Like what?
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What did you sell?
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What were your sales last year?
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We've probably sold
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5 grand worth of product.
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Craig, you're--you're--
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you're crashing and burning.
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I'm out.
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I'm out, too.
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- Daymond, are you gonna
- invest in this?
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If you're in, I'm following,
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'cause you know
what you're doing.
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Why are you making it
all my, you know--
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you're Mr. clothing.
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You're the clothing guy.
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You're the clothing guy.
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Daymond, come on.
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You gonna invest?
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With two sharks already out,
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Craig needs daymond
to turn the tide.
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You know, to be very honest,
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as of right now,
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you're nobody to everybody.
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Okay.
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I'm--I'm... I'm out.
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All right.
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He's out, I'm out.
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Four sharks have dropped out.
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Kevin O'Leary is Craig's
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last chance for an investment.
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Craig, you know, look,
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- I'm just an investor trying to
- scratch out a living here, okay?
335
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- I'm listening to this.
- I love you.
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I love your story--
the broken jaw,
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the g--the winning goal,
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all that stuff--i love all that.
339
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But you got a tough
deal here, buddy.
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I can't give you my money
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- because I don't see
- how I'm gonna get it back
342
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with more of it there.
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It's all about investing.
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I'm out.
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But I want to buy
some of this stuff.
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That's how--how conflicted I am.
347
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What's this thing worth?
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I'm buying this right here.
349
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How much?
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I don't want to take your money.
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You won't take my money?
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That's-- you can have it.
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It's my gift to you guys.
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This is what we do.
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Craig, thanks for your time.
356
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Thanks, guys.
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- Good luck.
- Good luck.
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Good luck to you.
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♪♪♪
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I like the guy.
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I love the guy.
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I love the guy.
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Man, you are one tough guy.
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I am not. This is a
black hole right here.
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- And if he keeps spending
- his money, he's gonna spend
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everybody's money,
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and he's gonna be out of it.
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I'm disappointed. I'm sad.
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But I believe in what I'm doing.
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I'm not gonna stop because of
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a couple of sharks who
think that they know
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everything about business.
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♪♪♪
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My name's Robert Allison.
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I'm the inventor of life belt.
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This is my son Michael,
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- and he's gonna be
- showing us how it works.
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- First thing I want you to do,
- son, is try and start the car
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- without putting on
- your seat belt.
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Did the car start?
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No.
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Okay.
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- Once lifebelt's installed,
- the vehicle can't be started
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until the driver fastens
their safety belt.
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- Put on your seat belt.
- Gosh.
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- The number one cause of death
- and killer of teens
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in our country, hands
down, is car crashes.
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Try it now.
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As a parent, there's no way
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I'd let my son drive
without the protection
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that lifebelt offers.
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- I believe that every parent
- in the country
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- would want one
- for their sons and daughters
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if they knew lifebelt existed.
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♪♪♪
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Good afternoon, gentlemen.
ma'am.
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My name is Robert Allison.
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- I'm the creator
- of lifebelt inc.
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I'm here today requesting
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$500,000 in funding for 10%.
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Lifebelt, in short,
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is a piece of safety equipment
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- that prevents you from
- being able to start your car
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without first buckling
your seat belt.
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- The reason I've--I'm excited
- about this opportunity
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- is that
- if I can get my product
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- out in front
- of the American public,
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then possibly we can
help to eliminate
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- some of the teen fatalities
- that occur every year.
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How does it work exactly?
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Like I see a little black box...
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The larger black square taps
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into the vehicle's fuse box.
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- The primary function
- is to make sure
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that the driver has on
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his or her seat belt.
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00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:11,187
- How did you
- come up with this?
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00:13:11,190 --> 00:13:12,681
About seven years ago, uh,
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I had a loved one
that lost her sister
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to a, uh, car crash.
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00:13:18,161 --> 00:13:20,154
- The leading cause of death
- in our country--
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- resoundingly--
- is traffic crashes.
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- If you have on a properly worn
- shoulder harness,
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the chances of you walking away
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from a traffic crash uninjured
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or not deceased go
up by up to 86%.
427
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I love the concept, Robert.
428
00:13:32,610 --> 00:13:34,102
Walk me through the--the costs.
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00:13:34,103 --> 00:13:35,100
- What--what do you sell
- the unit for?
430
00:13:35,103 --> 00:13:37,092
- What's it cost
- to get it installed?
431
00:13:37,095 --> 00:13:40,081
Uh, installed, right
now in las Vegas,
432
00:13:40,082 --> 00:13:42,074
- which is where I live, I've got
- two different shops there
433
00:13:42,077 --> 00:13:44,067
that do it for $229 installed.
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00:13:44,068 --> 00:13:46,060
Could an average person
435
00:13:42,074 --> 00:13:47,554
install this himself or-- yes.
436
00:13:47,555 --> 00:13:49,048
'Cause $229 sounds a
little pricey to me.
437
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Do you have a patent for it?
438
00:13:49,049 --> 00:13:51,041
Of course. It's patented.
439
00:13:51,042 --> 00:13:53,035
I own the patent, the copyright,
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00:13:53,036 --> 00:13:55,026
I own the fcc licensing.
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00:13:55,027 --> 00:13:57,020
- Why not go to the car comp--
- like, why build a business?
442
00:13:57,023 --> 00:13:58,515
'Cause if we got--if you and I
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got one of these in
every single car...
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00:14:02,501 --> 00:14:04,990
We'd be very, very rich.
445
00:14:04,991 --> 00:14:06,984
'Cause I'll tell you,
I love the idea.
446
00:14:06,984 --> 00:14:07,980
I mean, I love the idea.
447
00:14:07,981 --> 00:14:10,968
But I am never gonna
buy one of these...
448
00:14:10,969 --> 00:14:13,201
- And then take it to a mechanic.
- It's too much hassle.
449
00:14:13,958 --> 00:14:15,951
If I'm a large car manufacturer,
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00:14:15,952 --> 00:14:17,943
and I want to put this in,
451
00:14:17,944 --> 00:14:19,937
do I have to go to
you for the patent?
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00:14:19,938 --> 00:14:20,934
Yes.
453
00:14:21,929 --> 00:14:23,763
- So--so that's the big elephant
- in the room.
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00:14:23,922 --> 00:14:24,919
Like, why aren't you doing that?
455
00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,910
I-I have spoken to engineers
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00:14:26,911 --> 00:14:28,406
at all three of the major
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00:14:28,407 --> 00:14:29,899
automobile manufacturers
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00:14:29,900 --> 00:14:30,897
here in this country.
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00:14:30,898 --> 00:14:33,885
One in particular is
extremely interested,
460
00:14:33,886 --> 00:14:35,381
but does it take another
461
00:14:35,382 --> 00:14:36,874
five years to get to that point?
462
00:14:36,875 --> 00:14:37,871
- There's
- two ways to sell it.
463
00:14:37,874 --> 00:14:39,864
- One is to--at the point
- of manufacture,
464
00:14:39,867 --> 00:14:41,857
the other is at the time--
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00:14:41,858 --> 00:14:43,849
the point of sale of the car.
466
00:14:43,850 --> 00:14:45,841
The automotive aftermarket
business... Oh.
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Is a huge business.
468
00:14:47,836 --> 00:14:49,828
The problem is, just like
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00:14:45,842 --> 00:14:49,827
when I just walked in here,
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00:14:49,828 --> 00:14:50,824
- you didn't even know
- this existed.
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00:14:50,827 --> 00:14:52,818
- And so when I call on
- some of the bigger
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00:14:53,813 --> 00:14:55,806
- nationwide auto chains,
- they've never heard of me,
473
00:14:55,809 --> 00:14:57,799
- they've never heard - of the product--
- but, Robert, we know that.
474
00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,774
So what if they've
never heard of you.
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00:14:59,775 --> 00:15:01,750
- Nobody ever heard of me when I
- started my first business,
476
00:15:01,753 --> 00:15:04,689
- and I sold it for $100 million. - Robert,
you're not making - any money right now
477
00:15:04,713 --> 00:15:05,701
- doing this, are you?
- No, I'm not, no.
478
00:15:05,702 --> 00:15:06,688
- Okay, so let's--let's agree
- on one thing.
479
00:15:06,691 --> 00:15:08,664
- Just--i want
- to hear you say this,
480
00:15:08,667 --> 00:15:10,639
- 'cause I'm not sure
- you're going to.
481
00:15:10,642 --> 00:15:13,603
The only thing of value here
482
00:15:13,604 --> 00:15:16,566
is the patent, yes or no?
483
00:15:10,639 --> 00:15:14,590
Yes.
484
00:15:16,566 --> 00:15:18,047
My biggest concern
485
00:15:18,048 --> 00:15:19,528
is not so much your product,
486
00:15:19,529 --> 00:15:22,491
but I don't see you
selling this thing.
487
00:15:22,492 --> 00:15:23,974
So I, for one,
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00:15:23,975 --> 00:15:25,455
on that basis alone, I'm out.
489
00:15:22,492 --> 00:15:25,454
Thank you.
490
00:15:25,455 --> 00:15:27,431
Um, you know, the biggest
issue I have here
491
00:15:27,432 --> 00:15:29,405
is--is the valuation.
492
00:15:29,406 --> 00:15:33,356
Uh, $500,000 for 10%,
uh, is--is just--
493
00:15:33,357 --> 00:15:34,345
right. that's nuts.
494
00:15:34,346 --> 00:15:36,320
- I-i mean, it's--
- it's outrageous.
495
00:15:36,323 --> 00:15:38,296
- On the valuation basis,
- Robert, I'm sorry,
496
00:15:38,296 --> 00:15:39,283
but I'm--I'm out also.
497
00:15:39,284 --> 00:15:41,753
Until there is a car company
498
00:15:41,754 --> 00:15:44,221
licensing this thing,
499
00:15:44,222 --> 00:15:45,210
this will be an endless
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00:15:45,211 --> 00:15:46,691
and fruitless journey
501
00:15:46,692 --> 00:15:48,172
of, um, spending money.
502
00:15:48,173 --> 00:15:49,160
I'm out.
503
00:15:53,111 --> 00:15:56,074
Robert, I'll make you an offer.
504
00:15:57,062 --> 00:16:01,012
I'll buy your patent
for $500,000.
505
00:16:01,013 --> 00:16:03,975
One hundred per cent of it.
506
00:16:03,976 --> 00:16:06,938
I want to separate
you from the patent,
507
00:16:06,939 --> 00:16:10,890
and I don't want you
to call me ever again.
508
00:16:12,866 --> 00:16:14,841
Robert, I'll make
you a better offer.
509
00:16:14,842 --> 00:16:17,803
I'll give you $1 million
510
00:16:17,804 --> 00:16:19,781
for 100% of the patent,
511
00:16:20,767 --> 00:16:21,755
and you can call me once.
512
00:16:36,571 --> 00:16:39,533
Robert, I'll make
you a better offer.
513
00:16:39,534 --> 00:16:41,509
I'll give you $1 million
514
00:16:41,510 --> 00:16:43,484
for 100% of the patent,
515
00:16:43,485 --> 00:16:45,459
and you can call me once.
516
00:16:45,460 --> 00:16:47,436
A million-dollar offer
is on the table,
517
00:16:47,437 --> 00:16:50,398
and Robert is about
to make a decision
518
00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:51,881
that could change his life--
519
00:16:51,882 --> 00:16:53,361
a million-dollar decision.
520
00:16:53,362 --> 00:17:00,275
I am gonna have to
say no, thank you.
521
00:17:00,276 --> 00:17:02,251
Is there any price?
522
00:17:02,252 --> 00:17:04,227
What's the price?
523
00:17:04,228 --> 00:17:06,202
Make it a national,
recognized brand.
524
00:17:06,203 --> 00:17:08,178
There you go again. Why do you
525
00:17:08,179 --> 00:17:10,153
want to go back to the business?
526
00:17:06,203 --> 00:17:10,152
May I please-- may
I please finish?
527
00:17:10,153 --> 00:17:12,129
Because I'm gonna
answer the question,
528
00:17:12,130 --> 00:17:13,592
- but it's not
- just about the money.
529
00:17:14,104 --> 00:17:16,080
I know it is, I'm not
questioning that,
530
00:17:16,081 --> 00:17:18,055
but if you told me...
531
00:17:18,056 --> 00:17:20,030
"I'll give you $30 million,
532
00:17:20,031 --> 00:17:22,006
- but I'm gonna put it on a shelf
- and never produce it"...
533
00:17:22,009 --> 00:17:23,488
What you just said
534
00:17:23,489 --> 00:17:24,968
makes absolutely no sense.
535
00:17:24,969 --> 00:17:26,451
Obviously we're gonna
536
00:17:26,452 --> 00:17:27,931
sell it to car companies.
537
00:17:27,932 --> 00:17:29,908
Why would we put it on a shelf?
538
00:17:29,909 --> 00:17:31,883
- I mean,
- that just makes no sense.
539
00:17:31,886 --> 00:17:33,859
- Why would you say that? - That's crazy.
- He's not a corporation
540
00:17:33,862 --> 00:17:36,821
trying to take your
product to hide it.
541
00:17:36,822 --> 00:17:38,774
- He just wants to make money,
- so the more he gives you,
542
00:17:38,797 --> 00:17:40,141
- the more
- he's gonna work harder
543
00:17:40,773 --> 00:17:43,736
to make sure that product
hits the market.
544
00:17:40,773 --> 00:17:42,254
Look, what do you think,
545
00:17:42,255 --> 00:17:45,217
we--we want kids to...
I didn't mean
546
00:17:45,218 --> 00:17:46,699
to suggest that.
547
00:17:43,736 --> 00:17:47,688
I apologize... Think about it.
You're--
548
00:17:47,689 --> 00:17:48,675
you're a business guy.
549
00:17:46,699 --> 00:17:48,676
No, you don't have to apologize.
550
00:17:49,662 --> 00:17:51,638
- You're a business guy. - You started from a good place.
- Mm-hmm.
551
00:17:51,639 --> 00:17:53,613
But you're
unbelievably stubborn,
552
00:17:53,614 --> 00:17:56,575
and I think everybody
here, all the sharks,
553
00:17:56,576 --> 00:17:59,045
see the very obvious way to
554
00:17:59,046 --> 00:18:01,514
make money at this except you.
555
00:18:01,515 --> 00:18:03,492
And every time we
throw it to you,
556
00:18:04,478 --> 00:18:06,453
- you acknowledge it,
- but then you want to go off
557
00:18:06,454 --> 00:18:07,441
and run and build a business.
558
00:18:07,441 --> 00:18:08,429
- I don't want to build
- a business.
559
00:18:08,432 --> 00:18:09,910
I want to take the path
560
00:18:09,911 --> 00:18:11,391
of least resistance.
561
00:18:11,392 --> 00:18:12,874
And again, it's flattering,
562
00:18:12,875 --> 00:18:14,354
but no, thank you.
563
00:18:14,355 --> 00:18:17,317
Robert, we're done here.
564
00:18:17,318 --> 00:18:21,268
Thank you very much
for your time.
565
00:18:21,269 --> 00:18:23,245
♪♪♪
566
00:18:25,220 --> 00:18:27,195
Great idea, wrong guy.
567
00:18:27,195 --> 00:18:28,677
I'm--I'm shocked
568
00:18:28,678 --> 00:18:30,158
that he turned down that money.
569
00:18:30,159 --> 00:18:32,134
- Too bad. Lost opportunity.
- That--that was - really a great product.
570
00:18:32,135 --> 00:18:33,122
Mm-hmm.
571
00:18:33,123 --> 00:18:34,110
It was.
572
00:18:34,111 --> 00:18:36,085
- Lifebelt is
- tremendously more important
573
00:18:36,088 --> 00:18:38,059
in the ability to save lives
574
00:18:38,060 --> 00:18:40,036
- than just a stack of money
- on a--on a table.
575
00:18:40,037 --> 00:18:41,024
That's just not enough.
576
00:18:41,025 --> 00:18:42,998
♪♪♪
577
00:18:42,999 --> 00:18:44,974
Next into the tank
is Susan knapp,
578
00:18:44,975 --> 00:18:46,456
who believes she has
579
00:18:46,457 --> 00:18:48,925
a delectable opportunity
for the sharks.
580
00:18:57,815 --> 00:19:00,777
Hi, my name is Susan knapp,
581
00:19:00,778 --> 00:19:02,753
and I am the creator of
582
00:19:02,754 --> 00:19:04,728
a perfect pear from napa valley.
583
00:19:04,729 --> 00:19:08,679
I'm raising $500,000
for a 15% equity stake
584
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:09,667
in my company.
585
00:19:09,668 --> 00:19:11,642
Ow!
586
00:19:11,643 --> 00:19:14,605
I turned my passionate hobby
587
00:19:14,606 --> 00:19:16,088
of making my signature product--
588
00:19:16,089 --> 00:19:19,544
cinnamon pear jelly--
into a business.
589
00:19:19,545 --> 00:19:21,520
It's evolved into a
line of extraordinary,
590
00:19:21,521 --> 00:19:24,482
award-winning gourmet
food products.
591
00:19:24,483 --> 00:19:25,471
But do you have sales?
592
00:19:25,472 --> 00:19:29,421
We've grown to over
$700,000 in sales.
593
00:19:29,422 --> 00:19:31,396
Well, well, well, well.
594
00:19:31,397 --> 00:19:32,385
So what's the net profit?
595
00:19:32,386 --> 00:19:34,359
At the end of 2009,
596
00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:37,323
we expect our net
profit to be 2.43%.
597
00:19:37,324 --> 00:19:39,298
That's about $15,000.
598
00:19:39,299 --> 00:19:42,306
At the end of, uh, 2010,
599
00:19:42,307 --> 00:19:46,317
we expect our net
profit to be 10.5%.
600
00:19:46,318 --> 00:19:48,323
Thank you.
601
00:19:48,324 --> 00:19:50,328
You're quite welcome.
602
00:19:50,329 --> 00:19:52,334
Susan, it's fantastic.
603
00:19:52,335 --> 00:19:54,339
Thank you very much.
604
00:19:54,340 --> 00:19:56,345
Mmm. that's good.
605
00:19:56,346 --> 00:19:57,348
Mmm.
606
00:19:57,349 --> 00:19:58,350
How many total stores
are you actually in?
607
00:19:58,351 --> 00:19:59,355
About 650.
608
00:20:00,357 --> 00:20:01,359
- So what do you need
- the money for?
609
00:20:01,362 --> 00:20:02,864
We need the money
610
00:20:02,865 --> 00:20:04,367
to help us with production.
611
00:20:04,368 --> 00:20:06,373
- I currently have over $100,000
- worth of orders
612
00:20:06,376 --> 00:20:10,383
that our customers are
eagerly waiting for.
613
00:20:10,384 --> 00:20:11,888
You can't get financing
614
00:20:11,889 --> 00:20:13,391
from a bank or somebody else?
615
00:20:13,392 --> 00:20:15,398
It's pretty difficult right now.
616
00:20:15,398 --> 00:20:16,401
- Even a lot of
- the angel investors
617
00:20:16,404 --> 00:20:18,407
- that are usually available
- in this market
618
00:20:19,409 --> 00:20:21,414
- have been - pretty difficult to reach.
- That's the real problem
619
00:20:21,415 --> 00:20:23,420
with what's happening
in America today
620
00:20:23,421 --> 00:20:24,924
is people can't get credit.
621
00:20:24,925 --> 00:20:26,427
Right, right.
622
00:20:26,428 --> 00:20:28,434
- Deserving people with
- real businesses and real orders
623
00:20:28,437 --> 00:20:30,439
- can't get credit.
- My concern is,
624
00:20:30,442 --> 00:20:32,445
- is that you're not making,
- really, much profit.
625
00:20:32,448 --> 00:20:34,450
2% profit on $700,000--
626
00:20:34,451 --> 00:20:36,455
that's projected for this year.
627
00:20:36,456 --> 00:20:38,460
That's a $15,000 profit.
628
00:20:38,461 --> 00:20:40,467
Don't you think
what you're asking
629
00:20:40,468 --> 00:20:43,474
and valuing your company
for is too high?
630
00:20:43,475 --> 00:20:45,480
I personally have over $800,000
631
00:20:45,481 --> 00:20:47,485
invested in this.
632
00:20:47,486 --> 00:20:48,990
Susan, don't care about
633
00:20:48,991 --> 00:20:50,493
the past. Doesn't matter.
634
00:20:50,494 --> 00:20:53,501
Okay, everybody
loves your stuff.
635
00:20:53,502 --> 00:20:55,006
Your packaging's fantastic.
636
00:20:55,007 --> 00:20:56,510
You present very, very well.
637
00:20:56,511 --> 00:20:58,516
Put that aside.
638
00:20:58,517 --> 00:21:00,521
Let's talk about the money.
639
00:21:00,522 --> 00:21:04,532
We have to take the
emotion out of it...
640
00:21:04,533 --> 00:21:05,535
And make it real.
641
00:21:05,536 --> 00:21:07,540
How about this deal?
642
00:21:07,541 --> 00:21:12,053
500k... And you give up 70%
643
00:21:12,054 --> 00:21:13,556
of your company.
644
00:21:13,557 --> 00:21:16,564
Are you asking me if
I would accept that?
645
00:21:16,565 --> 00:21:17,568
Yes.
646
00:21:17,568 --> 00:21:18,571
No, thank you.
647
00:21:18,572 --> 00:21:22,583
Okay, I have $500,000...
648
00:21:24,587 --> 00:21:25,590
For 51%.
649
00:21:25,591 --> 00:21:29,600
51%?
650
00:21:29,601 --> 00:21:31,105
51% to me.
651
00:21:31,106 --> 00:21:32,608
I control the company.
652
00:21:32,609 --> 00:21:36,619
I'd go 50%.
653
00:21:36,620 --> 00:21:38,625
Half a million for 50%.
654
00:21:38,626 --> 00:21:41,633
I'd go in on that deal.
655
00:21:41,634 --> 00:21:43,138
I think 50 is fair,
656
00:21:43,139 --> 00:21:44,641
because at the end of the day,
657
00:21:44,642 --> 00:21:47,651
you need the money,
we gotta have
658
00:21:47,652 --> 00:21:48,653
some level of control.
659
00:21:48,654 --> 00:21:50,659
- So I'm in with Kevin
- on that deal.
660
00:21:50,662 --> 00:21:53,166
Do we have a deal?
661
00:21:53,167 --> 00:21:57,677
Well, let's see--
Susan, let's be clear.
662
00:21:57,678 --> 00:22:00,685
Kevin and I are
offering you $500,000
663
00:22:00,686 --> 00:22:02,691
for 50% of the company.
664
00:22:02,692 --> 00:22:04,697
- Why deal with two guys when you
- could just deal with one
665
00:22:04,700 --> 00:22:07,204
for 51%?
666
00:22:07,205 --> 00:22:09,711
I wouldn't throw out the 70%
667
00:22:04,697 --> 00:22:08,708
that leaves you with 30,
668
00:22:09,711 --> 00:22:11,215
'cause you get to work
669
00:22:11,216 --> 00:22:12,718
with Mr. wonderful. That's me.
670
00:22:12,719 --> 00:22:16,730
Susan, we have--
you have an offer.
671
00:22:16,731 --> 00:22:20,741
What do you want to do?
672
00:22:21,744 --> 00:22:23,248
You want to go in the dark
673
00:22:23,249 --> 00:22:24,752
and think about it?
674
00:22:21,744 --> 00:22:24,751
For just a second?
675
00:22:24,752 --> 00:22:28,763
You want to step out one second?
676
00:22:24,752 --> 00:22:26,758
Yeah, go ahead. Phone
677
00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:28,762
your husband if you have to.
678
00:22:28,763 --> 00:22:31,772
Does he own any of the business?
679
00:22:28,763 --> 00:22:31,771
No.
680
00:22:31,772 --> 00:22:33,777
He just put all the money in.
681
00:22:33,778 --> 00:22:35,783
- Ooh, that's mean.
- I like her even more now.
682
00:22:35,786 --> 00:22:37,788
- First of all,
- what is this 50% stuff?
683
00:22:37,791 --> 00:22:39,794
We can get 70% here.
684
00:22:39,795 --> 00:22:41,798
Easily. we can get 80%.
685
00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:43,303
She said no.
686
00:22:43,304 --> 00:22:44,807
She said no to your 70%.
687
00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:44,734
She turned you down.
688
00:22:44,735 --> 00:22:45,714
- Yeah, but, you know,
- I have 51.
689
00:22:45,717 --> 00:22:47,753
- You guys are taking my deal,
- almost, for 1 point.
690
00:22:48,650 --> 00:22:50,608
- No, but you guys, you undercut
- me by going down to 50--
691
00:22:50,611 --> 00:22:52,076
and they undercut me.
692
00:22:52,077 --> 00:22:53,544
Yeah, they undercut him.
693
00:22:50,608 --> 00:22:53,543
It's all fair. Come on.
694
00:22:53,544 --> 00:22:55,478
- She wasn't gonna--
- she's not gonna take that.
695
00:22:55,502 --> 00:22:56,480
All right.
696
00:22:56,481 --> 00:22:57,459
Let's get her back.
697
00:22:55,502 --> 00:22:57,458
Susan, you want to come back?
698
00:22:57,459 --> 00:23:00,395
♪♪♪
699
00:23:06,268 --> 00:23:07,247
What do you want to do?
700
00:23:07,248 --> 00:23:10,183
♪♪♪
701
00:23:20,949 --> 00:23:22,907
Both asking for a bigger chunk
702
00:23:22,908 --> 00:23:24,863
of her company.
703
00:23:24,864 --> 00:23:26,822
- I love the fact that
- you've got $700,000 in sales,
704
00:23:26,825 --> 00:23:28,291
you've got $100,000 in orders
705
00:23:28,292 --> 00:23:29,759
waiting to be fulfilled.
706
00:23:30,737 --> 00:23:31,716
I love that, okay?
707
00:23:31,717 --> 00:23:34,651
My offer with Robert
as my partner--
708
00:23:34,652 --> 00:23:36,609
we'll each-- together
put up $500,000
709
00:23:36,610 --> 00:23:38,567
for 50% of the company.
710
00:23:38,568 --> 00:23:45,417
My offer is... I will
give you $500,000
711
00:23:45,418 --> 00:23:47,375
for 51%.
712
00:23:47,376 --> 00:23:49,333
That gives me
controlling interest,
713
00:23:49,334 --> 00:23:51,291
but you only have to deal with
714
00:23:51,292 --> 00:23:53,248
one person instead of two.
715
00:23:55,206 --> 00:23:56,185
You're all wonderful.
716
00:23:56,186 --> 00:23:58,142
Now here's what I would like
717
00:23:58,143 --> 00:24:01,078
to propose to you two
gentlemen or to you.
718
00:24:01,079 --> 00:24:04,015
Would you consider 49/51 so I
719
00:24:04,016 --> 00:24:06,950
maintain 51% of the company?
720
00:24:06,951 --> 00:24:09,886
Can't do that.
721
00:24:09,887 --> 00:24:10,866
- I don't want to speak
- for Kevin harrington,
722
00:24:10,869 --> 00:24:12,824
- but I can't do that.
- No.
723
00:24:12,824 --> 00:24:13,802
- And I'll tell you why - I can't do that.
- Okay.
724
00:24:13,805 --> 00:24:16,738
In a small business,
the decisions you make
725
00:24:16,739 --> 00:24:17,717
can really influence
726
00:24:17,718 --> 00:24:18,696
which way we're gonna go.
727
00:24:18,697 --> 00:24:20,164
And I just need to be involved.
728
00:24:20,165 --> 00:24:21,631
But along with Kevin harrington,
729
00:24:21,632 --> 00:24:23,590
- I'm willing to go with you
- 'cause I like you.
730
00:24:23,593 --> 00:24:26,525
So I'm willing to
share responsibility,
731
00:24:26,526 --> 00:24:27,994
but I'm not willing to give you
732
00:24:27,995 --> 00:24:29,462
that responsibility.
733
00:24:26,526 --> 00:24:29,461
Okay.
734
00:24:29,462 --> 00:24:31,420
I-I have to control my money.
735
00:24:31,421 --> 00:24:33,377
You've spoken for me
736
00:24:29,462 --> 00:24:33,376
very well. Thank you, Robert.
737
00:24:33,377 --> 00:24:35,334
You have not given me an answer.
738
00:24:35,335 --> 00:24:37,292
Can I have controlling stake
739
00:24:37,293 --> 00:24:39,250
of your company for 51%?
740
00:24:44,144 --> 00:24:46,100
Do you know, I hate to say it,
741
00:24:46,101 --> 00:24:49,037
but, um... but no.
742
00:24:49,038 --> 00:24:51,974
And--and thank you very much.
743
00:24:49,038 --> 00:24:51,973
Then I'm out.
744
00:24:51,974 --> 00:24:53,442
Are you saying no to daymond
745
00:24:53,443 --> 00:24:54,910
or are you saying--
746
00:24:51,974 --> 00:24:54,909
I'm saying no to daymond.
747
00:24:54,910 --> 00:25:00,782
And you two
gentlemen, I'm, um...
748
00:25:00,783 --> 00:25:02,739
Susan, think about this.
749
00:25:02,740 --> 00:25:04,697
You make no money.
750
00:25:04,698 --> 00:25:08,613
I will-- oh, gosh.
751
00:25:10,570 --> 00:25:13,506
I-I will say yes to.
752
00:25:13,507 --> 00:25:14,485
- Yes.
- Hey.
753
00:25:14,488 --> 00:25:16,443
- Good choice.
- Aha. aha.
754
00:25:16,446 --> 00:25:18,400
- She's gonna say no, - huh, daymond?
- You took me for 1%.
755
00:25:18,401 --> 00:25:19,379
She's gonna say no, huh?
756
00:25:19,380 --> 00:25:20,358
She's gonna regret it.
757
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,272
Ah. Susan, you made
the right decision.
758
00:25:24,273 --> 00:25:26,230
Well, and he loves
the product already.
759
00:25:26,231 --> 00:25:28,188
- Congratulations.
- All the best.
760
00:25:28,191 --> 00:25:30,145
- Thank you.
- Good match.
761
00:25:30,148 --> 00:25:33,081
That is a-- that is a good deal.
762
00:25:33,082 --> 00:25:34,060
That is a great lady.
763
00:25:34,061 --> 00:25:35,039
Great lady.
764
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,997
- That is
- a good lady.
765
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:36,997
Ah! I shoulda got
in on your deal.
766
00:25:36,998 --> 00:25:38,954
It feels a little bit scary
767
00:25:38,955 --> 00:25:40,911
to give up 50% of my company.
768
00:25:40,912 --> 00:25:43,847
But knowing that my intent
769
00:25:43,848 --> 00:25:46,783
is to have this be a
$20-million company
770
00:25:46,784 --> 00:25:51,677
over the next five
years, what's 50%?
771
00:25:51,678 --> 00:25:54,613
♪♪♪
772
00:25:54,614 --> 00:25:55,593
Next into the shark tank
773
00:25:55,594 --> 00:25:56,572
is Mary Ellen simonsen,
774
00:25:56,573 --> 00:25:59,508
who believes her product has
775
00:25:59,509 --> 00:26:02,444
the potential to make millions.
776
00:26:05,381 --> 00:26:07,338
Hello, my name is
Mary Ellen simonsen.
777
00:26:07,339 --> 00:26:09,296
- I have created a product that
- will keep your sticky notes
778
00:26:09,299 --> 00:26:10,764
in place and organized
779
00:26:10,765 --> 00:26:12,231
while working at your computer.
780
00:26:12,232 --> 00:26:16,147
I am here to ask for
$100,000 in-investment
781
00:26:16,148 --> 00:26:18,104
for 20% equity in my company.
782
00:26:18,105 --> 00:26:21,041
I created this product
because I was tired
783
00:26:21,042 --> 00:26:22,020
of losing sticky notes
784
00:26:22,021 --> 00:26:24,955
and having to reposition
them all day long.
785
00:26:24,956 --> 00:26:27,892
This example here is
an example of what
786
00:26:27,893 --> 00:26:28,871
we're all used to seeing.
787
00:26:28,871 --> 00:26:29,850
There's been no change in it.
788
00:26:29,851 --> 00:26:32,785
There's been no solution
to it until today.
789
00:26:32,786 --> 00:26:35,722
You simply attach it
790
00:26:35,723 --> 00:26:39,637
to your laptop or your
desktop, and you put
791
00:26:39,638 --> 00:26:40,616
all your notes here.
792
00:26:40,616 --> 00:26:41,595
- You can also attach it
- to this side.
793
00:26:41,598 --> 00:26:43,553
Mary Ellen, you've created
794
00:26:43,554 --> 00:26:45,509
a sticky pad for sticky pads.
795
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:47,469
I created an arm
for sticky pads.
796
00:26:48,446 --> 00:26:50,404
That's worth half a
million dollars?
797
00:26:48,446 --> 00:26:50,403
Yes.
798
00:26:50,404 --> 00:26:51,382
Please tell me why.
799
00:26:51,383 --> 00:26:52,754
- All you--
- all you simply do is--
800
00:26:53,340 --> 00:26:54,319
is swing the sleeve in
801
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,297
when you're ready to go.
802
00:26:55,298 --> 00:26:58,233
And as you can see,
none of 'em fall off.
803
00:26:58,234 --> 00:27:00,191
Oh, I see why it's worth
804
00:27:00,192 --> 00:27:02,149
half a million dollars.
805
00:26:58,234 --> 00:27:02,148
Thank you!
806
00:27:02,149 --> 00:27:03,127
It folds into the computer.
807
00:27:03,128 --> 00:27:05,085
- Of course that makes sense
- to me now.
808
00:27:05,088 --> 00:27:07,532
You've sold how many?
809
00:27:07,533 --> 00:27:09,978
I have sold none.
810
00:27:09,979 --> 00:27:10,958
Excellent. excellent.
811
00:27:10,958 --> 00:27:12,915
- I think we should keep this
- a secret.
812
00:27:12,918 --> 00:27:14,873
It's so valuable that nobody
813
00:27:14,874 --> 00:27:16,829
should know about this.
814
00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:18,787
Come on.
815
00:27:18,788 --> 00:27:21,724
Who's gonna buy this from you?
816
00:27:18,788 --> 00:27:21,723
This year alone,
817
00:27:21,724 --> 00:27:23,192
56 million laptops will be sold
818
00:27:23,193 --> 00:27:24,659
here in the United States.
819
00:27:24,660 --> 00:27:26,128
And every one of them
820
00:27:26,129 --> 00:27:27,595
doesn't need your sticky arm.
821
00:27:27,596 --> 00:27:29,554
This year alone, over
400 million laptops
822
00:27:29,555 --> 00:27:31,511
will be sold worldwide.
823
00:27:31,512 --> 00:27:33,469
How much is it worth?
824
00:27:29,554 --> 00:27:33,468
What would I pay for that?
825
00:27:33,469 --> 00:27:34,937
Uh, $9.50.
826
00:27:34,938 --> 00:27:36,405
Stop the madness.
827
00:27:33,469 --> 00:27:36,404
Are you out of your mind?
828
00:27:36,405 --> 00:27:37,384
- $9.50 for one?
- Yes.
829
00:27:37,387 --> 00:27:39,342
- Are you crazy?
- Yes.
830
00:27:39,344 --> 00:27:41,299
- Who would give you
- 10 bucks for that?
831
00:27:39,342 --> 00:27:41,299
A lot of pe-- a lot of people.
832
00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:43,266
How do you know that?
833
00:27:43,267 --> 00:27:45,233
How do you know that?
834
00:27:41,299 --> 00:27:45,232
I've--I've done surveys.
835
00:27:45,233 --> 00:27:47,199
There's so many bad
things about this,
836
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,132
let me count the ways.
837
00:27:51,133 --> 00:27:52,116
I'm out.
838
00:27:52,117 --> 00:27:54,083
Mary, convince me why this isn't
839
00:27:54,084 --> 00:27:56,049
the worst idea I've ever seen.
840
00:27:56,050 --> 00:27:57,525
This year alone, there'll be
841
00:27:57,526 --> 00:27:57,525
56 million laptops--
okay, you gotta
842
00:27:57,526 --> 00:27:58,999
stop that right away.
843
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,475
You know what? I can't tell you
844
00:28:00,476 --> 00:28:01,949
how many people come to me
845
00:28:01,950 --> 00:28:03,425
and say "if I can get 1% of 1%
846
00:28:03,426 --> 00:28:04,900
of the billion"...
847
00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:08,833
You--you... zero from
zero is still zero.
848
00:28:08,834 --> 00:28:10,801
- So forget that. Let that go.
- Give me another one.
849
00:28:10,804 --> 00:28:12,768
- Give me another reason
- why this is great.
850
00:28:12,771 --> 00:28:14,243
This is solving a problem
851
00:28:14,244 --> 00:28:15,717
that everybody has
852
00:28:15,718 --> 00:28:17,685
- who uses sticky notes--
- I don't have that problem.
853
00:28:17,688 --> 00:28:19,652
Who uses sticky notes
854
00:28:19,653 --> 00:28:21,617
while working at their laptop.
855
00:28:21,618 --> 00:28:23,585
- Have you shown this to anybody
- that said,
856
00:28:23,588 --> 00:28:26,535
"I like this and we'll
sell it for you"?
857
00:28:23,586 --> 00:28:28,502
I have not because I have not
858
00:28:28,503 --> 00:28:30,469
secured a patent yet.
859
00:28:26,535 --> 00:28:28,502
Don't waste your time
860
00:28:28,503 --> 00:28:30,468
or the money on the patent.
861
00:28:30,469 --> 00:28:32,927
I think no sales,
862
00:28:32,928 --> 00:28:35,385
a useless idea. I'm totally out.
863
00:28:35,386 --> 00:28:37,352
If you walked in here today
864
00:28:37,353 --> 00:28:40,302
with some kind of
interest in this product,
865
00:28:40,303 --> 00:28:42,269
- uh, I think you may be getting
- a little bit different reaction
866
00:28:42,272 --> 00:28:43,745
from us right now.
867
00:28:43,746 --> 00:28:45,219
So I'm out.
868
00:28:45,220 --> 00:28:47,186
- I don't think your product
- is worth what you're asking,
869
00:28:47,189 --> 00:28:49,153
- but I do think you have
- a product there.
870
00:28:49,156 --> 00:28:51,120
And I think $10 a pop
871
00:28:51,121 --> 00:28:51,120
on a qvc-type
station-- what planet
872
00:28:51,121 --> 00:28:53,087
did you come from?
873
00:28:53,088 --> 00:28:54,563
Yeah. no, let me tell you.
874
00:28:54,564 --> 00:28:56,036
I think you could sell it.
875
00:28:56,037 --> 00:28:58,004
I love this lady. You're solid
876
00:28:58,005 --> 00:28:59,970
on your feet, all right?
877
00:28:59,971 --> 00:29:01,937
- I just don't think you're gonna
- make a business of this.
878
00:29:01,940 --> 00:29:04,888
You know, Barbara--
so from me, I'm out,
879
00:29:01,937 --> 00:29:04,888
but not because of you.
880
00:29:04,889 --> 00:29:06,854
- I think you need a new product,
- but I'm out.
881
00:29:04,889 --> 00:29:06,854
Barbara, you gotta,
you gotta stop that.
882
00:29:06,855 --> 00:29:08,821
- You know what?
- That's why she's here.
883
00:29:08,824 --> 00:29:10,296
She's here with a horrible idea
884
00:29:10,297 --> 00:29:11,770
because somebody in her family
885
00:29:11,771 --> 00:29:13,738
- or her friends said that, too.
- I'm not her friend.
886
00:29:13,741 --> 00:29:15,705
- "You're really nice,"
- and encouraged you.
887
00:29:15,708 --> 00:29:17,180
Have you spent any of your own
888
00:29:17,181 --> 00:29:18,655
money doing this?
889
00:29:15,705 --> 00:29:18,654
I've spent about $1,000.
890
00:29:18,655 --> 00:29:20,622
That's the good news. You should
891
00:29:20,623 --> 00:29:22,588
stop. find something else.
892
00:29:22,589 --> 00:29:24,064
Move on. I'm out.
893
00:29:24,065 --> 00:29:25,538
Thank you for your time.
894
00:29:25,539 --> 00:29:26,522
Thank you.
895
00:29:26,523 --> 00:29:27,506
Good luck, Mary Ellen.
896
00:29:27,507 --> 00:29:29,472
♪♪♪
897
00:29:45,207 --> 00:29:49,139
Y, who believes his business
898
00:29:49,140 --> 00:29:51,107
is an investment in
America's future.
899
00:29:51,108 --> 00:29:54,057
♪♪♪
900
00:29:57,991 --> 00:29:58,974
My name's Marc furigay.
901
00:29:58,975 --> 00:30:00,940
I live in Chicago, Illinois,
902
00:30:00,941 --> 00:30:01,924
and my product is gonna
903
00:30:01,925 --> 00:30:02,908
revolutionize the way
904
00:30:02,909 --> 00:30:04,874
things are taught in school.
905
00:30:04,875 --> 00:30:06,841
I'm a high school
english teacher.
906
00:30:06,842 --> 00:30:08,810
I've been teaching for
about eight years.
907
00:30:09,792 --> 00:30:11,758
- I've always loved reading,
- and I love kids as well,
908
00:30:11,761 --> 00:30:13,846
- so as a teacher, I wanted
- to share this enthusiasm
909
00:30:14,709 --> 00:30:15,692
with the kids.
910
00:30:15,693 --> 00:30:17,659
- Today we're gonna do an even
- deeper character analysis
911
00:30:17,662 --> 00:30:19,625
of lady MacBeth.
912
00:30:19,626 --> 00:30:20,609
It got pretty frustrating
913
00:30:20,610 --> 00:30:21,592
when a lot of kids
914
00:30:21,593 --> 00:30:23,559
- had a hard time getting into
- what they were reading,
915
00:30:23,562 --> 00:30:25,525
uh, particularly Shakespeare.
916
00:30:25,526 --> 00:30:27,493
They just tuned out.
917
00:30:27,494 --> 00:30:29,459
So I figured there had to be
918
00:30:29,460 --> 00:30:30,443
a better way to get them
919
00:30:30,444 --> 00:30:31,426
into the literature.
920
00:30:31,427 --> 00:30:34,376
So I created something
new, innovative,
921
00:30:34,377 --> 00:30:35,852
and it completely changed
922
00:30:35,853 --> 00:30:37,326
the class dynamic.
923
00:30:37,327 --> 00:30:40,276
Who is the stronger,
harder character,
924
00:30:40,277 --> 00:30:42,243
MacBeth or lady MacBeth?
925
00:30:42,244 --> 00:30:44,210
- In all my years of teaching,
- I've never come across
926
00:30:44,213 --> 00:30:47,160
anything that works
nearly as well
927
00:30:47,161 --> 00:30:48,636
as the product I've created.
928
00:30:48,637 --> 00:30:50,110
It was the circumstances
929
00:30:50,111 --> 00:30:52,078
- that turned him into
- the ruthless king that he was.
930
00:30:52,081 --> 00:30:54,044
- Their marriage was good. - You think
lady MacBeth - started off good?
931
00:30:54,045 --> 00:30:56,011
- She started off good.
- It was all about her greed.
932
00:30:56,014 --> 00:30:57,978
The title of the play is
933
00:30:57,979 --> 00:30:59,944
"MacBeth" because he's better.
934
00:30:59,945 --> 00:31:01,420
What I want to show the sharks
935
00:31:01,421 --> 00:31:02,894
is that this is not just
936
00:31:02,895 --> 00:31:04,862
an amazingly effective
teaching tool,
937
00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:07,811
but it is an amazing
business opportunity.
938
00:31:07,812 --> 00:31:10,762
♪♪♪
939
00:31:22,563 --> 00:31:23,546
Hello, sharks.
940
00:31:23,547 --> 00:31:25,512
My name is Marc furigay.
941
00:31:25,513 --> 00:31:26,496
- I'm the creator and founder
- of classroom jams--
942
00:31:26,499 --> 00:31:27,973
an educational record label
943
00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:29,448
and publishing house
944
00:31:30,430 --> 00:31:31,413
set to launch.
945
00:31:31,414 --> 00:31:34,363
I'm here seeking $250,000
946
00:31:34,364 --> 00:31:38,296
for a 10% stake in the company.
947
00:31:38,297 --> 00:31:40,264
As a teacher in Chicago
public schools,
948
00:31:40,265 --> 00:31:43,214
I saw a very huge need
for teaching tools
949
00:31:43,215 --> 00:31:44,198
that actually worked.
950
00:31:44,199 --> 00:31:46,164
No matter what resources
951
00:31:46,165 --> 00:31:48,130
we had, kids kept failing,
952
00:31:48,131 --> 00:31:50,097
and teachers kept burning out.
953
00:31:50,098 --> 00:31:53,047
One day, uh, when I
was really struggling
954
00:31:53,048 --> 00:31:55,015
to get kids interested
in Shakespeare,
955
00:31:55,016 --> 00:31:56,490
a student of mine
956
00:31:56,491 --> 00:31:57,964
summed up the problem perfectly.
957
00:31:57,965 --> 00:32:00,914
She said, "Mr. furigay,
958
00:32:00,915 --> 00:32:02,882
- why can't you give us something
- we can relate to?"
959
00:32:02,885 --> 00:32:05,831
I took those words to heart.
960
00:32:05,832 --> 00:32:07,799
The next day, I came
in with a song.
961
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,780
- I--I'll play you
- just the first verse.
962
00:32:09,783 --> 00:32:11,761
It's called
963
00:32:11,762 --> 00:32:13,742
"the jubilee of Juliet, part 1."
964
00:32:17,702 --> 00:32:21,662
♪ The jubilee of Juliet ♪
965
00:32:21,663 --> 00:32:24,633
♪ hasn't even started yet ♪
966
00:32:24,634 --> 00:32:28,594
♪ but get the party on tonight ♪
967
00:32:28,595 --> 00:32:33,546
♪ and yo there's
gonna be a fight ♪
968
00:32:33,547 --> 00:32:36,516
♪ can you feel the feeling yet ♪
969
00:32:36,517 --> 00:32:40,478
♪ of fiery tybalt capulet? ♪
970
00:32:40,479 --> 00:32:43,449
♪ See, tybalt hated montagues ♪
971
00:32:43,450 --> 00:32:46,420
♪ the family and
the feeling, too ♪
972
00:32:48,401 --> 00:32:51,371
Well, the kids loved it.
973
00:32:51,372 --> 00:32:52,362
- That was really good. - Very good,
- very good.
974
00:32:52,365 --> 00:32:54,343
- Thank you.
- That was really good.
975
00:32:54,346 --> 00:32:56,322
Okay. how do we make money?
976
00:32:56,323 --> 00:32:57,809
We make money by selling
977
00:32:57,810 --> 00:33:01,274
our, uh, class sets to
schools nationwide.
978
00:33:01,275 --> 00:33:03,255
Marc, do you own a-a copyright
979
00:33:03,256 --> 00:33:05,235
to that song? Like-- yes.
980
00:33:05,236 --> 00:33:08,207
Have you written all
the shakespearean
981
00:33:05,236 --> 00:33:08,206
classics musically?
982
00:33:08,207 --> 00:33:10,187
I wrote and performed
983
00:33:10,188 --> 00:33:12,167
all the songs on the album.
984
00:33:12,168 --> 00:33:13,653
Wow. so you're selling us
985
00:33:13,654 --> 00:33:15,138
the entire record label?
986
00:33:15,139 --> 00:33:16,624
That's part of the business?
987
00:33:16,625 --> 00:33:18,109
Yes, exactly.
988
00:33:18,110 --> 00:33:19,100
And the rights to the songs?
989
00:33:19,101 --> 00:33:21,081
Um, I am not selling
990
00:33:21,082 --> 00:33:23,060
the rights to the songs.
991
00:33:23,061 --> 00:33:25,041
Ooh.
992
00:33:25,042 --> 00:33:27,022
I am selling a stake
in the record label
993
00:33:27,022 --> 00:33:28,013
and the publishing house.
994
00:33:28,014 --> 00:33:29,992
But why not the song?
995
00:33:29,993 --> 00:33:31,479
The song is something that
996
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,963
I would like to keep control of.
997
00:33:32,964 --> 00:33:33,954
You are a nasty man.
998
00:33:33,955 --> 00:33:35,936
School is your
customer, correct?
999
00:33:33,954 --> 00:33:35,936
Correct.
1000
00:33:36,925 --> 00:33:38,905
What's the cost to the school?
1001
00:33:38,906 --> 00:33:42,866
A class set costs, uh, $499,
1002
00:33:42,867 --> 00:33:44,848
and it includes 30 cds
1003
00:33:44,849 --> 00:33:46,827
and the teacher's guide.
1004
00:33:46,828 --> 00:33:48,809
- Why--why Shakespeare?
- Any other programs, like why--
1005
00:33:48,810 --> 00:33:49,799
- you're seeing ahead.
- Precisely.
1006
00:33:49,802 --> 00:33:51,285
The reason I chose Shakespeare
1007
00:33:51,286 --> 00:33:52,771
was because, uh,
1008
00:33:52,772 --> 00:33:54,258
he is the most widely taught
1009
00:33:54,259 --> 00:33:55,743
writer in the english language.
1010
00:33:55,744 --> 00:33:57,726
Probably one of the hardest
1011
00:33:57,727 --> 00:33:59,708
to understand, too.
1012
00:33:55,744 --> 00:33:59,707
Precisely, um, and
one of the things
1013
00:33:59,708 --> 00:34:01,689
that kids really
struggle with the most.
1014
00:34:01,689 --> 00:34:02,680
- So any other ones? Are you
- doing any other--
1015
00:34:02,683 --> 00:34:05,652
uh, the next three,
uh, we're planning on
1016
00:34:05,653 --> 00:34:07,139
will target different,
1017
00:34:07,140 --> 00:34:10,112
uh, different subjects--
history, science--
1018
00:34:10,113 --> 00:34:11,597
Marc, I'd like you
to do me a favor.
1019
00:34:11,598 --> 00:34:13,084
I'd like you to walk outdoors
1020
00:34:13,085 --> 00:34:14,570
for a minute. Leave us alone.
1021
00:34:20,515 --> 00:34:23,487
I-I like this deal.
1022
00:34:23,488 --> 00:34:24,479
- This is why I wanted
- to call a session together.
1023
00:34:24,482 --> 00:34:26,461
- Let's not
- bid against each other.
1024
00:34:26,464 --> 00:34:28,442
- First of all, there's no way on
- earth he's walking out of here
1025
00:34:28,445 --> 00:34:30,424
- without the publishing rights
- in the deal.
1026
00:34:30,427 --> 00:34:31,910
$250,000 for 100%
1027
00:34:31,911 --> 00:34:34,883
of the business, and
he gets a 5% royalty
1028
00:34:34,884 --> 00:34:36,368
after we recoup our dough.
1029
00:34:36,369 --> 00:34:38,351
- I love it, but I mean,
- I'd love to be taller, too.
1030
00:34:38,354 --> 00:34:42,314
I just don't think
he's gonna do it.
1031
00:34:38,351 --> 00:34:40,333
I'm not giving him any dough
1032
00:34:40,334 --> 00:34:42,313
unless I have total control
1033
00:34:42,314 --> 00:34:43,801
and I own all the rights.
1034
00:34:43,802 --> 00:34:45,287
That's it.
1035
00:34:42,314 --> 00:34:45,286
Mean guy.
1036
00:34:45,287 --> 00:34:47,268
But a royalty stream for him
1037
00:34:47,269 --> 00:34:48,755
can be worth millions of dollars
1038
00:34:48,756 --> 00:34:50,240
over the--over time,
1039
00:34:50,241 --> 00:34:51,727
so this is still a very--
1040
00:34:51,728 --> 00:34:53,214
a very good offer.
1041
00:34:50,241 --> 00:34:53,213
Call him back in.
1042
00:34:53,214 --> 00:34:55,195
Marc, come on down.
1043
00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:03,122
You know, I gotta
tell you something:
1044
00:35:03,123 --> 00:35:05,104
- You're a very lucky guy today,
- that we met.
1045
00:35:05,107 --> 00:35:07,086
- I'm gonna make you rich,
- I think.
1046
00:35:07,089 --> 00:35:08,572
But you're gonna have to
1047
00:35:08,573 --> 00:35:10,057
really think this through.
1048
00:35:10,058 --> 00:35:11,544
We form a new company.
1049
00:35:11,545 --> 00:35:13,030
We own it.
1050
00:35:13,031 --> 00:35:16,002
We fund it with $250,000.
1051
00:35:16,003 --> 00:35:17,985
It's a publishing
company for you.
1052
00:35:17,986 --> 00:35:19,967
- Just like a great artist,
- you're gonna make a royalty--
1053
00:35:19,970 --> 00:35:21,948
in perpetuity,
1054
00:35:21,949 --> 00:35:23,929
for the rest of your life, 5%.
1055
00:35:23,930 --> 00:35:26,904
The five sharks
have offered Marc
1056
00:35:27,894 --> 00:35:30,866
$250,000 and a 5% royalty
1057
00:35:30,867 --> 00:35:33,838
for 100% of the company.
1058
00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:37,801
Um... Fascinating.
1059
00:35:37,802 --> 00:35:39,783
I--it's a--it's a great--
1060
00:35:39,784 --> 00:35:41,766
it's great to imagine that the--
1061
00:35:41,767 --> 00:35:43,748
you would be willing to do that.
1062
00:35:44,738 --> 00:35:48,701
Um, but... I'd like to
build this company--
1063
00:35:48,702 --> 00:35:50,188
stop right there.
1064
00:35:50,189 --> 00:35:51,674
Do you want to be rich or not?
1065
00:35:52,665 --> 00:35:54,646
I do want to be rich.
1066
00:35:54,647 --> 00:35:57,618
Well, let's get focused
on that, buddy.
1067
00:35:57,619 --> 00:35:59,601
- But do you want to have to deal
- with the everyday aspects
1068
00:35:59,602 --> 00:36:00,592
- of sales, distribution,
- manufacturing?
1069
00:36:00,595 --> 00:36:02,078
Or do you want to be able
1070
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:03,563
to do exactly what you do,
1071
00:36:03,564 --> 00:36:05,051
an artist and a teacher?
1072
00:36:05,052 --> 00:36:06,536
This--the latter sounds ideal,
1073
00:36:06,537 --> 00:36:08,023
although, I must say,
1074
00:36:08,024 --> 00:36:09,508
since I started to think about,
1075
00:36:09,509 --> 00:36:11,491
uh, starting a business,
1076
00:36:11,492 --> 00:36:13,472
the marketing, the sales,
1077
00:36:13,473 --> 00:36:16,444
uh, the networking is
also very exciting.
1078
00:36:16,445 --> 00:36:17,436
It won't be after a while.
1079
00:36:17,437 --> 00:36:18,922
How many times in your life
1080
00:36:18,923 --> 00:36:20,409
have five people said,
1081
00:36:20,410 --> 00:36:22,391
"let me give you $250,000
1082
00:36:22,392 --> 00:36:24,371
to start a company,
1083
00:36:24,372 --> 00:36:26,354
"of which you, for the rest
1084
00:36:26,355 --> 00:36:29,326
of the days you're
alive, make a royalty,
1085
00:36:29,327 --> 00:36:30,813
regardless of how hard
1086
00:36:30,814 --> 00:36:32,298
it is for us to sell it"?
1087
00:36:32,299 --> 00:36:33,773
I guess what I'm concerned
1088
00:36:33,774 --> 00:36:35,246
with is, 5% feels quite small.
1089
00:36:35,247 --> 00:36:39,176
In perpetuity? Forever?
1090
00:36:39,177 --> 00:36:40,159
The model of royalties
1091
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,142
is a great deal for you.
1092
00:36:39,177 --> 00:36:41,141
Yes.
1093
00:36:41,142 --> 00:36:43,107
Why aren't you jumping
all over this?
1094
00:36:43,108 --> 00:36:46,054
I sense that you're concerned.
1095
00:36:46,055 --> 00:36:48,020
- Well, there is the--the question
- of the equity stake.
1096
00:36:48,023 --> 00:36:50,476
I like the idea of maintaining
1097
00:36:50,477 --> 00:36:52,932
equity in something--
1098
00:36:52,933 --> 00:36:53,915
- but that's not the offer
- on the table, my friend.
1099
00:36:53,918 --> 00:36:55,880
The offer on the table right now
1100
00:36:55,881 --> 00:36:58,828
is to set up a new company...
Mm-hmm.
1101
00:36:58,829 --> 00:37:01,284
That the sharks
own, and you get,
1102
00:37:01,285 --> 00:37:02,757
which is a great deal,
1103
00:37:02,758 --> 00:37:03,741
a percentage of those sales
1104
00:37:03,742 --> 00:37:06,688
for simply creating material.
1105
00:37:06,689 --> 00:37:09,635
Um, I would like to
make a counteroffer.
1106
00:37:09,636 --> 00:37:11,600
We're all ears.
1107
00:37:11,601 --> 00:37:15,531
I would like to be,
uh, six players
1108
00:37:15,532 --> 00:37:17,005
as co-owners of the company.
1109
00:37:17,006 --> 00:37:18,478
It's un-American,
what you're asking.
1110
00:37:18,479 --> 00:37:20,444
You don't want to take any risk.
1111
00:37:20,445 --> 00:37:22,409
- You want us to spend
- all of our dollars,
1112
00:37:22,412 --> 00:37:24,375
- give you free equity
- and get a royalty.
1113
00:37:24,378 --> 00:37:27,322
Do you see the
problem with that?
1114
00:37:24,375 --> 00:37:27,321
I-I don't see it as free--
1115
00:37:27,322 --> 00:37:28,796
and look at how we're struggling
1116
00:37:28,797 --> 00:37:30,270
to make it work for you.
1117
00:37:27,322 --> 00:37:30,269
I-I appreciate that very much.
1118
00:37:30,270 --> 00:37:34,200
Um, I don't see it
as free equity.
1119
00:37:30,270 --> 00:37:34,199
Don't try to be a shark.
1120
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,362
- You--you either get equity
- or you do a royalty deal.
1121
00:37:37,148 --> 00:37:38,130
- I hear you saying
- "I love my business."
1122
00:37:38,133 --> 00:37:40,095
You have a passion for it.
1123
00:37:40,096 --> 00:37:42,493
- I'll give you the $250,000.
- I'll give it to you on my own.
1124
00:37:47,956 --> 00:37:49,920
But I want 100% of the business,
1125
00:37:49,921 --> 00:37:51,886
and I'll give you an option
1126
00:37:51,887 --> 00:37:53,850
to work back to 49%.
1127
00:37:53,851 --> 00:37:55,816
Robert has made Marc
his own offer--
1128
00:37:55,817 --> 00:37:57,782
$250,000 for 100%
1129
00:37:57,783 --> 00:38:01,221
of the company with an option
1130
00:38:01,221 --> 00:38:04,168
to buy back 49% of
it with profits
1131
00:38:04,169 --> 00:38:05,641
made from the business.
1132
00:38:05,642 --> 00:38:08,590
Uh, uh-- excuse me. Your deal
1133
00:38:05,642 --> 00:38:08,589
has no royalty in it.
1134
00:38:08,590 --> 00:38:09,572
No royalty.
1135
00:38:09,573 --> 00:38:10,555
So you get nothing.
1136
00:38:10,556 --> 00:38:12,519
May--may I take notes?
1137
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,994
No, see, it's very simple.
1138
00:38:13,995 --> 00:38:15,467
You don't need to take notes.
1139
00:38:15,468 --> 00:38:16,941
Robert just offered you nothing
1140
00:38:16,942 --> 00:38:19,398
and told you to pound
sand for a long time.
1141
00:38:19,399 --> 00:38:20,380
No, I didn't.
1142
00:38:18,415 --> 00:38:20,379
I didn't do that.
1143
00:38:20,380 --> 00:38:21,363
I think you did.
1144
00:38:21,364 --> 00:38:22,345
I gave him a shot
at the brass ring.
1145
00:38:22,346 --> 00:38:23,367
You're giving him nothing.
1146
00:38:28,241 --> 00:38:30,206
What do you want to do?
1147
00:38:41,014 --> 00:38:42,488
All five sharks made Marc
1148
00:38:42,489 --> 00:38:44,944
an offer together, but Robert
1149
00:38:44,945 --> 00:38:45,927
had a change of heart
1150
00:38:45,928 --> 00:38:47,892
- and made him an offer
- on his own.
1151
00:38:47,895 --> 00:38:49,366
I would like to make
1152
00:38:49,367 --> 00:38:50,839
a-a per--a counteroffer.
1153
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,805
Just before you make that move,
1154
00:38:52,806 --> 00:38:54,770
- maybe your other deal
- is gonna evaporate.
1155
00:38:54,773 --> 00:38:56,735
- Just like a dog
- with a bone in his mouth
1156
00:38:56,736 --> 00:38:57,718
- looking at a reflection
- in the river,
1157
00:38:57,721 --> 00:38:59,191
you better make sure,
1158
00:38:59,192 --> 00:39:00,664
before you open your mouth,
1159
00:39:00,665 --> 00:39:02,630
the bone doesn't drop out here.
1160
00:39:02,631 --> 00:39:04,596
He's not gonna do the deal.
1161
00:39:00,665 --> 00:39:04,595
He's not stupid.
1162
00:39:04,596 --> 00:39:06,561
- I didn't hear that yet.
- I mean, I went along with it
1163
00:39:06,564 --> 00:39:08,526
- because I thought, sure,
- if he does the deal,
1164
00:39:08,529 --> 00:39:10,491
- I'm happy to go along with it,
- but he's not gonna do the deal.
1165
00:39:10,492 --> 00:39:11,473
- Are you gonna let that bone
- drop out of your mouth?
1166
00:39:11,476 --> 00:39:13,439
- Because maybe I'll evaporate
- on that.
1167
00:39:13,441 --> 00:39:15,404
- Obviously I'm getting cut out
- in Robert's scenario,
1168
00:39:15,407 --> 00:39:18,351
and that really makes me
1169
00:39:18,352 --> 00:39:21,299
quite unhappy, Marc.
1170
00:39:15,404 --> 00:39:21,298
I'm less interested
in, um, just one.
1171
00:39:21,299 --> 00:39:24,247
I like the idea of
having five resources.
1172
00:39:21,299 --> 00:39:24,322
Now I'm offended.
1173
00:39:24,323 --> 00:39:25,330
What's wrong with me?
1174
00:39:25,332 --> 00:39:26,338
Nothing is wrong
with you, Robert.
1175
00:39:26,339 --> 00:39:27,851
I-I really like the idea of
1176
00:39:27,852 --> 00:39:29,361
having five business partners.
1177
00:39:29,362 --> 00:39:30,370
You know what, Marc?
1178
00:39:30,371 --> 00:39:31,378
Forget that.
1179
00:39:31,378 --> 00:39:32,386
- That's just
- way too complicated for me.
1180
00:39:32,389 --> 00:39:34,400
I'll give you $250,000.
1181
00:39:34,401 --> 00:39:38,433
Um, I get 51%, you get 49%.
1182
00:39:39,441 --> 00:39:40,449
You gotta be kidding.
1183
00:39:40,450 --> 00:39:41,456
What happened there?
1184
00:39:41,457 --> 00:39:43,472
- Robert has just sweetened
- his offer
1185
00:39:43,475 --> 00:39:46,495
by giving Marc the 49%
stake of his company
1186
00:39:46,496 --> 00:39:48,511
without having to buy it back.
1187
00:39:48,512 --> 00:39:50,528
You've just seen greed.
1188
00:39:50,529 --> 00:39:52,544
That's what you've seen, Barb.
1189
00:39:53,551 --> 00:39:55,567
You've seen a guy
screw his partners.
1190
00:39:55,567 --> 00:39:56,575
That's what happened here.
1191
00:39:56,576 --> 00:39:58,590
- Yeah, but you-- - I won't forget this,
- Robert.
1192
00:39:58,591 --> 00:39:59,598
And you know what?
1193
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:00,606
Do you need a hug, Kevin?
1194
00:40:00,607 --> 00:40:03,268
- You're not gonna get - any help from me on this deal.
- Ay-yi-yi.
1195
00:40:03,630 --> 00:40:05,645
Marc, you have to start
1196
00:40:05,646 --> 00:40:07,661
making a decision. Which one?
1197
00:40:03,630 --> 00:40:07,660
That--that was why I
wanted to take notes.
1198
00:40:07,661 --> 00:40:09,677
- You know, the big risk is
- you're gonna walk out the door
1199
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,693
- singing the blues in "e." - You know what
- the big risk is?
1200
00:40:11,694 --> 00:40:12,701
I'm gonna say I'm out
1201
00:40:12,702 --> 00:40:13,708
in less than a minute.
1202
00:40:13,709 --> 00:40:15,724
- We've been here - for way too long.
- It's getting more comp--
1203
00:40:15,727 --> 00:40:17,237
it's way too many deals.
1204
00:40:17,238 --> 00:40:18,748
Yeah, if stuff is not simple,
1205
00:40:15,725 --> 00:40:18,747
I'm about to be out.
1206
00:40:18,748 --> 00:40:21,268
And I'm a simple guy.
1207
00:40:21,269 --> 00:40:23,787
I just want to make money.
1208
00:40:18,748 --> 00:40:23,786
Um, I really like the idea--
1209
00:40:23,787 --> 00:40:25,803
I-I really like the idea of
1210
00:40:25,804 --> 00:40:27,818
having five business partners.
1211
00:40:27,819 --> 00:40:29,330
Marc rejected Robert's offer
1212
00:40:29,332 --> 00:40:30,841
in hopes of securing a deal
1213
00:40:30,842 --> 00:40:32,857
with all five sharks together.
1214
00:40:32,858 --> 00:40:34,873
Can you, uh, redescribe
1215
00:40:34,874 --> 00:40:37,896
what your new company
would look like--
1216
00:40:37,897 --> 00:40:39,913
okay, one more
time with feeling.
1217
00:40:39,914 --> 00:40:41,929
- You don't even have to write
- this down. It's this simple.
1218
00:40:41,932 --> 00:40:43,945
We fund the new co.
1219
00:40:43,946 --> 00:40:45,959
With $250,000,
1220
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,480
you start making 5% for the rest
1221
00:40:48,481 --> 00:40:52,512
of your life on sales,
regardless of what
1222
00:40:52,513 --> 00:40:54,022
our costs are.
1223
00:40:54,023 --> 00:40:55,031
He has no equity.
1224
00:40:55,032 --> 00:40:56,039
Has no equity.
1225
00:40:54,023 --> 00:40:57,047
If you want-- okay--
1226
00:40:57,048 --> 00:40:59,063
- after we've recovered
- the $250,000 investment,
1227
00:40:59,066 --> 00:41:02,085
we let him use his
royalty stream
1228
00:41:02,086 --> 00:41:03,598
to acquire the equal equity
1229
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:05,109
amongst ourselves.
1230
00:41:05,110 --> 00:41:06,622
That makes sense to me. That's
1231
00:41:06,623 --> 00:41:08,133
real dollars for real equity,
1232
00:41:08,134 --> 00:41:09,142
- 'cause by then-- - is that something
- you'd consider, Marc?
1233
00:41:09,145 --> 00:41:11,157
Um... that would be something
1234
00:41:11,158 --> 00:41:13,172
I would consider,
1235
00:41:13,173 --> 00:41:14,685
but I would like the royalties
1236
00:41:14,686 --> 00:41:18,212
to be, um, much higher
to be able to, uh,
1237
00:41:18,213 --> 00:41:20,227
attain equity much more quickly.
1238
00:41:20,228 --> 00:41:21,236
Can we do 8 1/2%?
1239
00:41:21,237 --> 00:41:23,252
- No.
- No.
1240
00:41:23,255 --> 00:41:26,275
Okay, so it would--
Marc, are you sure
1241
00:41:23,252 --> 00:41:26,274
you're just an english teacher?
1242
00:41:26,275 --> 00:41:27,787
Or really, did you do an m.B.A.
1243
00:41:27,788 --> 00:41:29,298
And you just didn't tell us?
1244
00:41:29,299 --> 00:41:32,323
Uh, I am sure I
am-- he looks like
1245
00:41:32,324 --> 00:41:33,330
an english teacher.
1246
00:41:31,315 --> 00:41:34,842
I'm an english teach--
an english teacher.
1247
00:41:34,843 --> 00:41:36,354
You're trying to drive
1248
00:41:33,330 --> 00:41:36,353
a deal that's impossible to get,
1249
00:41:36,354 --> 00:41:39,377
in this room or
anywhere else on earth.
1250
00:41:39,378 --> 00:41:41,393
Do we have a deal, yes or no?
1251
00:41:41,394 --> 00:41:44,416
♪♪♪
1252
00:41:44,417 --> 00:41:45,929
Let's go into business.
1253
00:41:45,930 --> 00:41:47,440
Whoo! all right.
1254
00:41:47,441 --> 00:41:48,953
Marc, congratulations.
1255
00:41:48,954 --> 00:41:50,464
Great idea, man.
1256
00:41:47,441 --> 00:41:50,463
Thank you.
1257
00:41:50,464 --> 00:41:53,488
Like a really,
really great idea.
1258
00:41:50,464 --> 00:41:53,487
You're a very wise man.
1259
00:41:53,488 --> 00:41:55,000
That was very good, Marc.
1260
00:41:55,001 --> 00:41:56,511
Good job.
1261
00:41:56,512 --> 00:41:58,527
Thank you.
1262
00:41:59,535 --> 00:42:00,624
Okay, that was a good deal.
1263
00:42:01,551 --> 00:42:02,559
- I take it back.
- That was a good deal.
1264
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,567
- He should've never
- gone for that deal,
1265
00:42:03,568 --> 00:42:04,575
but I'm happy to do it.
1266
00:42:04,576 --> 00:42:06,087
That was good.
1267
00:42:06,088 --> 00:42:07,598
I feel invigorated.
1268
00:42:18,685 --> 00:42:19,693
I don't know. You know--
1269
00:42:19,694 --> 00:42:20,700
every time you'd
say "I don't know,
1270
00:42:20,701 --> 00:42:22,716
I'd hit you with an
electric cattle prod.
1271
00:42:22,717 --> 00:42:24,228
You gotta know this stuff.
1272
00:42:24,229 --> 00:42:25,739
I-I-i really can't believe
1273
00:42:25,740 --> 00:42:27,252
that you are not appreciating
1274
00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:28,763
what I've done.
1275
00:42:28,764 --> 00:42:31,787
You see any problem with that?
1276
00:42:28,764 --> 00:42:30,275
I-I see no problem with it.
1277
00:42:30,276 --> 00:42:33,299
I think-- I see greed.
I see greed.
1278
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:34,811
Wanting to make money
1279
00:42:31,787 --> 00:42:34,810
is what this is all about.
1280
00:42:34,811 --> 00:42:37,834
You have no business being here.
1281
00:42:34,811 --> 00:42:37,833
Some of this comes from belief.
1282
00:42:37,834 --> 00:42:39,346
You're your own worst enemy.
1283
00:42:39,347 --> 00:42:40,857
That's the problem.
1284
00:42:40,858 --> 00:42:42,874
Save your breath.
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