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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,173 --> 00:00:04,280 I am at the residence of Cora and Bearnhardt... 2 00:00:04,383 --> 00:00:07,145 This appears to be a .25-caliber bullet. 3 00:00:07,248 --> 00:00:09,216 Somebody was in there looking for something. 4 00:00:10,907 --> 00:00:12,391 Who would want them dead? 5 00:00:12,495 --> 00:00:14,014 That's the million-dollar question. 6 00:00:17,465 --> 00:00:19,329 There's all kinds of stories about who did it. 7 00:00:19,433 --> 00:00:22,436 There was an outcry. I mean, people are scared. 8 00:00:24,334 --> 00:00:27,268 [suspenseful music] 9 00:00:27,372 --> 00:00:31,652 10 00:00:33,378 --> 00:00:36,277 [mellow acoustic guitar music] 11 00:00:36,381 --> 00:00:40,212 12 00:00:40,316 --> 00:00:43,491 You know, you've got these beautiful rolling hills, 13 00:00:43,595 --> 00:00:47,185 with all the crop just newly planted here. 14 00:00:47,288 --> 00:00:51,189 We just pulled into Portage County, Ohio, 15 00:00:51,292 --> 00:00:55,641 which is a very rural part of the state, a lot of corn 16 00:00:55,745 --> 00:00:57,885 and peas and cows. 17 00:00:57,988 --> 00:01:01,682 It is the heartland of America. 18 00:01:01,785 --> 00:01:06,480 Atwater Township, founded as a township 1810. 19 00:01:08,689 --> 00:01:11,001 My family has been a part of Atwater 20 00:01:11,105 --> 00:01:14,143 for about 100 plus years. 21 00:01:14,246 --> 00:01:16,352 The church behind me, my great-grandfather 22 00:01:16,455 --> 00:01:19,907 built that chimney way back in 1933. 23 00:01:20,010 --> 00:01:22,910 It's basically small-town USA. 24 00:01:23,013 --> 00:01:24,636 People out here love each other, 25 00:01:24,739 --> 00:01:26,327 yeah, and you can see it. 26 00:01:26,431 --> 00:01:29,158 If people need help, there's always somebody there. 27 00:01:29,261 --> 00:01:30,711 My neighbor will call me up if my car is 28 00:01:30,814 --> 00:01:33,334 out in the driveway too long and not put away. 29 00:01:33,438 --> 00:01:35,336 She'll say, "Are you okay?" 30 00:01:37,787 --> 00:01:40,030 This is the rural farm road here in Atwater 31 00:01:40,134 --> 00:01:43,413 where, in April of 1990, 32 00:01:43,517 --> 00:01:47,245 an elderly couple was murdered brutally in their kitchen. 33 00:01:47,348 --> 00:01:49,212 And so this very small community 34 00:01:49,316 --> 00:01:51,387 was rightfully horrified. 35 00:01:54,631 --> 00:01:58,463 One day, I received notification 36 00:01:58,566 --> 00:02:04,158 that a man had not seen his neighbor for a couple days. 37 00:02:04,262 --> 00:02:07,817 He went over and kind of checked the house out, 38 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,784 everything was, uh, secure. 39 00:02:09,888 --> 00:02:15,238 But he looked in, and he saw two bodies laying in the house. 40 00:02:15,342 --> 00:02:17,344 [bird chirping] 41 00:02:17,447 --> 00:02:21,451 He called the Portage County Sheriff's Department. 42 00:02:21,555 --> 00:02:25,490 My detective bureau and deputies responded. 43 00:02:25,593 --> 00:02:27,250 [camera shutter snapping] 44 00:02:29,528 --> 00:02:34,292 It is approximately 8:33 p.m. 45 00:02:34,395 --> 00:02:37,985 I am at the residence of Cora and Bearnhardt 46 00:02:38,088 --> 00:02:39,159 H-A-R... - All right, well, I think 47 00:02:39,262 --> 00:02:40,229 that's all I need right now. - T-I-G. 48 00:02:40,332 --> 00:02:41,678 [camera shutter snapping] 49 00:02:41,782 --> 00:02:43,680 From the observation 50 00:02:43,784 --> 00:02:46,027 of the arrangement of the chairs, 51 00:02:46,131 --> 00:02:50,135 it appeared that Mr. and Mrs. Hartig were both shot 52 00:02:50,239 --> 00:02:51,826 sitting at the kitchen table. 53 00:02:51,930 --> 00:02:55,796 Mrs. Hartig had been shot five times. 54 00:02:55,899 --> 00:02:59,317 And Mr. Hartig had been shot three times. 55 00:02:59,420 --> 00:03:01,940 This appears to be a projectile, 56 00:03:02,043 --> 00:03:05,150 possibly the ...25-caliber bullet. 57 00:03:05,254 --> 00:03:08,291 There were ...25-caliber casings. 58 00:03:08,395 --> 00:03:09,775 [camera shutter snaps] 59 00:03:09,879 --> 00:03:12,744 That would be a total of seven shell casings 60 00:03:12,847 --> 00:03:15,436 at this point, plus one projectile. 61 00:03:15,540 --> 00:03:18,301 The detectives started searching 62 00:03:18,405 --> 00:03:20,407 the rest of the house. 63 00:03:20,510 --> 00:03:22,478 There was no sign of forced entry, 64 00:03:22,581 --> 00:03:26,585 and it didn't appear there was any struggle of any kind. 65 00:03:26,689 --> 00:03:29,036 It appeared to me that it had to be 66 00:03:29,139 --> 00:03:32,936 somebody who was welcomed into their home. 67 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,561 Come to the bathroom, the one cabinet door is ajar. 68 00:03:36,664 --> 00:03:39,426 The detectives went through 69 00:03:39,529 --> 00:03:42,014 and you could see the drawers pulled out, 70 00:03:42,118 --> 00:03:45,259 and just papers thrown around. 71 00:03:45,363 --> 00:03:47,468 Papers on the floor in disarray. 72 00:03:47,572 --> 00:03:50,368 The end table, two drawers open. 73 00:03:50,471 --> 00:03:53,163 The house had been ransacked. 74 00:03:53,267 --> 00:03:56,305 Somebody was in there looking for something. 75 00:03:56,408 --> 00:03:58,272 I asked the detectives, 76 00:03:58,376 --> 00:04:00,136 "Do you know if anything was taken?" 77 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,724 And they said no. 78 00:04:01,827 --> 00:04:05,555 Watches and things were still in the drawers. 79 00:04:05,659 --> 00:04:08,593 There wasn't anything of any value taken. 80 00:04:08,696 --> 00:04:10,767 [camera shutter snapping] 81 00:04:10,871 --> 00:04:14,184 [suspenseful music] 82 00:04:14,288 --> 00:04:17,395 When the murders happened, it was the talk of the town. 83 00:04:17,498 --> 00:04:19,466 Everybody was concerned about it. 84 00:04:19,569 --> 00:04:22,572 Nobody knew why it happened. 85 00:04:22,676 --> 00:04:25,195 This was big, big news in Portage County 86 00:04:25,299 --> 00:04:28,198 because it was so odd. 87 00:04:28,302 --> 00:04:30,062 I'm Andrea Simakis. 88 00:04:30,166 --> 00:04:35,551 In the 1990s, I was working at the Cleveland "Plain Dealer," 89 00:04:35,654 --> 00:04:37,691 doing investigative reporting. 90 00:04:37,794 --> 00:04:39,831 According to friends and neighbors, 91 00:04:39,934 --> 00:04:42,454 the Hartigs were quiet 92 00:04:42,558 --> 00:04:45,354 and well-thought of in the community. 93 00:04:45,457 --> 00:04:47,459 Mr. Hartig was a butcher. 94 00:04:47,563 --> 00:04:49,219 He was retired at the time of the murders. 95 00:04:49,323 --> 00:04:51,532 And Cora was a homemaker. 96 00:04:51,636 --> 00:04:53,465 It's not usual to have 97 00:04:53,569 --> 00:04:56,572 a--a well-known, well-liked elderly couple 98 00:04:56,675 --> 00:04:58,263 gunned down in their own homes. 99 00:04:58,367 --> 00:04:59,506 It--it frightened people. 100 00:05:01,508 --> 00:05:02,681 There's all kinds of stories 101 00:05:02,785 --> 00:05:05,235 about what happened and who did it. 102 00:05:05,339 --> 00:05:09,101 It causes fear, and people lock their doors. 103 00:05:09,205 --> 00:05:12,415 It's terrible to have to feel that way in a town like this. 104 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:15,107 [train signal clanging] 105 00:05:16,592 --> 00:05:19,388 In April of 1990, when they found 106 00:05:19,491 --> 00:05:23,357 this 81-year-old couple murdered in their kitchen, 107 00:05:23,461 --> 00:05:25,359 it was shocking. 108 00:05:25,463 --> 00:05:28,293 The pressure on elected officials 109 00:05:28,397 --> 00:05:31,331 to get to an answer quickly was immense. 110 00:05:31,434 --> 00:05:33,022 People want to be able to sleep at night. 111 00:05:34,817 --> 00:05:36,577 We're meeting with Vicki Buck Walter, 112 00:05:36,681 --> 00:05:38,579 who has worked as an investigator 113 00:05:38,683 --> 00:05:40,409 here in Portage County. 114 00:05:40,512 --> 00:05:44,482 She got involved in this case very early on. 115 00:05:44,585 --> 00:05:46,173 Vicki? - Yes. How are you? 116 00:05:46,276 --> 00:05:47,450 - I'm Hillary. - Hi. 117 00:05:47,554 --> 00:05:50,315 - It is so nice to meet you. - You too. 118 00:05:50,419 --> 00:05:52,144 Thank you so much for meeting today. 119 00:05:52,248 --> 00:05:53,663 Oh, you're welcome. 120 00:05:53,767 --> 00:05:56,908 This is a heinous murder of an elderly couple. 121 00:05:57,011 --> 00:06:00,601 What did you know when you first saw this case? 122 00:06:00,705 --> 00:06:04,709 There was no forced entry, and there were no fingerprints. 123 00:06:04,812 --> 00:06:06,814 Was there a murder weapon found on scene? 124 00:06:06,918 --> 00:06:10,300 There was no murder weapon, um, but they did determine 125 00:06:10,404 --> 00:06:15,823 that the Hartigs were both shot with a .25 automatic pistol. 126 00:06:15,927 --> 00:06:18,101 So where did the police start looking? 127 00:06:18,205 --> 00:06:22,623 They started doing, um, searches of crimes in the area. 128 00:06:22,727 --> 00:06:24,107 Okay. 129 00:06:24,211 --> 00:06:27,628 And there were some home invasion robberies 130 00:06:27,732 --> 00:06:32,495 in Alliance, Ohio, which was ten miles maybe from Atwater. 131 00:06:32,599 --> 00:06:34,532 And they were done by just kids. 132 00:06:34,635 --> 00:06:37,293 And they immediately got on the radar 133 00:06:37,397 --> 00:06:39,502 of the sheriff's department. 134 00:06:39,606 --> 00:06:42,747 They were doing what they referred to as car shopping, 135 00:06:42,850 --> 00:06:45,853 where they would go around and see if car doors would open, 136 00:06:45,957 --> 00:06:49,719 and then they'd take change out of there or take credit cards 137 00:06:49,823 --> 00:06:55,035 and buy pizza, and, you know, drugs and alcohol, 138 00:06:55,138 --> 00:06:56,519 things like that. 139 00:06:56,623 --> 00:06:58,418 Tell me a little bit about these kids. 140 00:06:58,521 --> 00:07:01,179 Just teenagers ranging from 14 to 21. 141 00:07:03,975 --> 00:07:06,356 They were a group of young guys. 142 00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:09,843 They were crashing in the home of one of their friends. 143 00:07:09,946 --> 00:07:12,397 They had no supervision. They could do what they wanted. 144 00:07:12,501 --> 00:07:15,055 And they were, like, lost boys. 145 00:07:15,158 --> 00:07:19,231 Tyrone Noling was the leader of this gang of lost boys. 146 00:07:19,335 --> 00:07:21,682 He was 18 at the time. 147 00:07:21,786 --> 00:07:23,753 He had a long juvenile record. 148 00:07:23,857 --> 00:07:27,032 Following him was Joey Dalesandro. 149 00:07:27,136 --> 00:07:30,484 Joey was also 18, and they were tight. 150 00:07:30,588 --> 00:07:34,350 Gary St. Clair was 21, a high school dropout. 151 00:07:34,454 --> 00:07:37,387 And then, uh, rounding out this group, 152 00:07:37,491 --> 00:07:40,977 a 14-year-old Butch Wolcott. 153 00:07:41,081 --> 00:07:45,016 On April 4th, 1990, their petty crimes escalated 154 00:07:45,119 --> 00:07:46,707 to a true home invasion. 155 00:07:46,811 --> 00:07:48,398 They knocked on a door 156 00:07:48,502 --> 00:07:50,435 nearby the place where they were crashing. 157 00:07:50,539 --> 00:07:52,644 There was an elderly couple. 158 00:07:52,748 --> 00:07:55,958 And the ruse was, they said their car broke down 159 00:07:56,061 --> 00:07:57,407 and they needed help. 160 00:07:57,511 --> 00:07:59,444 They were invited in. 161 00:07:59,548 --> 00:08:02,067 Tyrone went in with a shotgun. 162 00:08:02,171 --> 00:08:04,691 While inside, they stole cash, jewelry, 163 00:08:04,794 --> 00:08:07,210 and a .25-caliber pistol. 164 00:08:07,314 --> 00:08:11,145 The very next day, Tyrone did the same thing 165 00:08:11,249 --> 00:08:14,597 at another neighbor's home, another elderly couple. 166 00:08:14,701 --> 00:08:16,668 And this time, Tyrone was armed 167 00:08:16,772 --> 00:08:19,464 with the .25-caliber pistol he had taken 168 00:08:19,568 --> 00:08:21,846 in the previous robbery. 169 00:08:21,949 --> 00:08:24,193 Anything that wasn't nailed down was taken-- 170 00:08:24,296 --> 00:08:29,025 cash, jewelry taken off hands, watches taken off wrists. 171 00:08:30,406 --> 00:08:32,028 Tyrone is in the bedroom, 172 00:08:32,132 --> 00:08:34,514 and he's got the gun in his hand, 173 00:08:34,617 --> 00:08:38,518 and he's loading up things in this pillowcase, 174 00:08:38,621 --> 00:08:42,522 and it caused his trigger finger to shoot the gun. 175 00:08:42,625 --> 00:08:45,283 - Right. - And he was freaked out. 176 00:08:45,386 --> 00:08:49,563 He was described by the woman as a scared rabbit. 177 00:08:49,667 --> 00:08:51,461 He asked her, "Are you okay? Are you okay?" 178 00:08:51,565 --> 00:08:53,809 Then got out of there. 179 00:08:53,912 --> 00:08:57,019 Witnesses saw them running from the home 180 00:08:57,122 --> 00:08:58,883 in broad daylight 181 00:08:58,986 --> 00:09:01,817 carrying a VCR with a cord trailing behind them. 182 00:09:08,099 --> 00:09:09,894 It is a serious crime to walk 183 00:09:09,997 --> 00:09:12,586 into anybody's house and pull a gun on them. 184 00:09:12,690 --> 00:09:16,383 These boys were suspect right from the go 185 00:09:16,486 --> 00:09:18,937 of the Hartig murder. 186 00:09:19,041 --> 00:09:21,526 You have home invasions, older couples 187 00:09:21,630 --> 00:09:23,114 home at the time, 188 00:09:23,217 --> 00:09:28,119 and chiefly, a .25 caliber is used 189 00:09:28,222 --> 00:09:30,224 in the last robbery in Alliance 190 00:09:30,328 --> 00:09:33,503 and to murder the Hartigs. 191 00:09:33,607 --> 00:09:35,505 For the police, the similarities 192 00:09:35,609 --> 00:09:37,646 were too hard to ignore. 193 00:09:42,236 --> 00:09:44,273 Very close in time 194 00:09:44,376 --> 00:09:46,965 to when the Hartigs' bodies were discovered, 195 00:09:47,069 --> 00:09:49,727 in the nearby town of Alliance, 196 00:09:49,830 --> 00:09:53,696 there were similar home invasions of elderly couples 197 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,976 which made those robberies very interesting to police. 198 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,427 You're walking a very fine line there 199 00:10:00,530 --> 00:10:03,223 of--of a juvenile high jinks like breaking 200 00:10:03,326 --> 00:10:04,638 into cars and stuff. 201 00:10:04,742 --> 00:10:07,572 And now you're venturing into very adult, 202 00:10:07,676 --> 00:10:09,643 very criminal behavior. 203 00:10:09,747 --> 00:10:14,717 It was known that Tyrone had a .25-caliber weapon. 204 00:10:14,821 --> 00:10:17,513 And right away, everybody thought 205 00:10:17,617 --> 00:10:21,931 this could be the weapon that was used in the Hartig case. 206 00:10:22,035 --> 00:10:26,833 And the detective bureau went to interview these kids 207 00:10:26,936 --> 00:10:28,869 about the Hartig murder. 208 00:10:28,973 --> 00:10:30,940 Tyrone readily admitted 209 00:10:31,044 --> 00:10:34,806 his culpability in the Alliance robberies, 210 00:10:34,910 --> 00:10:37,464 but he says he has nothing to do with the murders, 211 00:10:37,567 --> 00:10:40,156 as do his friends. 212 00:10:40,260 --> 00:10:43,021 [suspenseful music] 213 00:10:43,125 --> 00:10:46,784 214 00:10:46,887 --> 00:10:49,959 And so, while they're locked up, 215 00:10:50,063 --> 00:10:53,445 does the investigation into the Hartig murders continue? 216 00:10:53,549 --> 00:10:56,034 Yeah, yeah. It does continue. 217 00:10:56,138 --> 00:10:58,036 The county sheriff is investigating 218 00:10:58,140 --> 00:11:00,487 the surface similarities of the crimes-- 219 00:11:00,590 --> 00:11:02,765 home invasions, elderly couple. 220 00:11:02,869 --> 00:11:05,630 But after those surface similarities, 221 00:11:05,734 --> 00:11:07,287 the cases diverge. 222 00:11:07,390 --> 00:11:09,945 Nothing is taken out of the Hartig home. 223 00:11:10,048 --> 00:11:12,775 Money is left in Bearnhardt's pocket. 224 00:11:12,879 --> 00:11:15,329 Cora's wedding ring is on her finger. 225 00:11:15,433 --> 00:11:17,090 Why leave everything behind 226 00:11:17,193 --> 00:11:20,196 when your previous MO had you taking 227 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:22,612 everything in sight? 228 00:11:22,716 --> 00:11:24,131 The murder weapon was a .25, 229 00:11:24,235 --> 00:11:26,927 which really got these guys on the radar. 230 00:11:27,031 --> 00:11:30,310 And so they did ballistics testing, 231 00:11:30,413 --> 00:11:34,521 and the gun that Tyrone shot at the second robbery 232 00:11:34,624 --> 00:11:36,972 came back to not be the murder weapon. 233 00:11:37,075 --> 00:11:39,802 - It's not the same gun. - Not the same gun. 234 00:11:39,906 --> 00:11:41,079 Police also recovered 235 00:11:41,183 --> 00:11:43,254 a cigarette butt on the Hartigs' driveway 236 00:11:43,357 --> 00:11:45,083 they thought could have been dropped by the killer 237 00:11:45,187 --> 00:11:48,017 because neither of the Hartigs smoked 238 00:11:48,121 --> 00:11:51,987 and Bearnhardt kept a very clean driveway. 239 00:11:52,090 --> 00:11:55,231 There was DNA tests performed on the cigarette. 240 00:11:55,335 --> 00:11:59,097 But the four boys, it was none of their DNA. 241 00:12:01,341 --> 00:12:02,514 I feel like the sheriff's department was probably like, 242 00:12:02,618 --> 00:12:04,862 "Yes, we figured it out." 243 00:12:04,965 --> 00:12:07,657 And then, for the gun not to match 244 00:12:07,761 --> 00:12:12,559 and for the cigarette butt not to match any of the four guys, 245 00:12:12,662 --> 00:12:14,699 how do you tie them in then? 246 00:12:14,803 --> 00:12:16,114 You don't. [chuckles] 247 00:12:16,218 --> 00:12:18,392 - Okay. - And they didn't. 248 00:12:18,496 --> 00:12:20,256 I don't believe there was anything 249 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,845 found in possession of these boys 250 00:12:22,949 --> 00:12:25,399 that would put them at the house. 251 00:12:25,503 --> 00:12:27,816 There was nothing that could hold them 252 00:12:27,919 --> 00:12:30,266 as suspects for this crime. 253 00:12:30,370 --> 00:12:32,406 What can you tell me about the Hartigs? 254 00:12:32,510 --> 00:12:34,201 Who would want them dead? 255 00:12:34,305 --> 00:12:37,342 Well, that's the million-dollar question. 256 00:12:37,446 --> 00:12:41,761 Mr. Hartig had clearly saved throughout his life. 257 00:12:41,864 --> 00:12:44,039 And he was known to be a person 258 00:12:44,142 --> 00:12:46,593 you could go to for personal loans. 259 00:12:46,696 --> 00:12:48,595 In their investigation, they found out 260 00:12:48,698 --> 00:12:50,597 that there was a doctor 261 00:12:50,700 --> 00:12:53,807 that was--was friends with Mr. Hartig. 262 00:12:53,911 --> 00:12:57,017 And the doctor said that he had talked to Mr. Hartig 263 00:12:57,121 --> 00:12:59,433 the day before they were killed. 264 00:12:59,537 --> 00:13:00,987 - Okay - And he said 265 00:13:01,090 --> 00:13:04,473 that Mr. Hartig had loaned his insurance man, 266 00:13:04,576 --> 00:13:07,717 Lewis Lehman, $10,000, 267 00:13:07,821 --> 00:13:10,375 and it had come due. 268 00:13:10,479 --> 00:13:12,032 He was gonna meet with the insurance man 269 00:13:12,136 --> 00:13:13,896 to get his money, and Mr. Hartig said, 270 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,657 "I haven't heard a hide nor hair from him. 271 00:13:16,761 --> 00:13:18,349 "Something doesn't smell right, 272 00:13:18,452 --> 00:13:19,937 "and I'll be calling him 273 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,560 as soon as we hang up the phone here." 274 00:13:22,663 --> 00:13:26,633 Mr. Hartig was gonna have words with his insurance guy. 275 00:13:26,736 --> 00:13:27,876 That was the last thing the doctor 276 00:13:27,979 --> 00:13:29,084 ever heard from them? 277 00:13:29,187 --> 00:13:31,914 Yes. 278 00:13:32,018 --> 00:13:34,123 Investigators naturally wanted to speak 279 00:13:34,227 --> 00:13:36,539 to this insurance agent, Lewis Lehman, 280 00:13:36,643 --> 00:13:40,164 if he was indeed the last call Bearnhardt Hartig 281 00:13:40,267 --> 00:13:42,200 might have made in anger. 282 00:13:42,304 --> 00:13:44,962 And significantly, they also found out 283 00:13:45,065 --> 00:13:48,275 that this insurance agent had a .25-caliber pistol 284 00:13:48,379 --> 00:13:49,759 registered to him. 285 00:13:49,863 --> 00:13:52,003 They brought him in. They questioned him. 286 00:13:52,107 --> 00:13:54,385 When they asked him to produce the weapon, 287 00:13:54,488 --> 00:13:56,594 he said he'd sold it, 288 00:13:56,697 --> 00:14:00,080 he couldn't remember to whom, and he couldn't remember when. 289 00:14:00,184 --> 00:14:02,462 Then investigators rightfully question 290 00:14:02,565 --> 00:14:05,154 Lewis Lehman about the loan. 291 00:14:05,258 --> 00:14:08,675 Lewis had said that yes, he did know the Hartigs 292 00:14:08,778 --> 00:14:11,574 but that he didn't owe them any money. 293 00:14:11,678 --> 00:14:12,990 He said he didn't owe them any money? 294 00:14:13,093 --> 00:14:15,406 Said he didn't owe them any money. 295 00:14:15,509 --> 00:14:16,717 The doctor said he had 296 00:14:16,821 --> 00:14:19,099 a very detailed repayment schedule. 297 00:14:19,203 --> 00:14:21,101 But When police searched the house, 298 00:14:21,205 --> 00:14:23,069 they could not find any such record 299 00:14:23,172 --> 00:14:25,692 for this insurance agent. 300 00:14:25,795 --> 00:14:29,696 And so they let him walk out of the door. 301 00:14:29,799 --> 00:14:30,939 We didn't have enough evidence 302 00:14:31,042 --> 00:14:34,425 to pursue anybody, really. 303 00:14:34,528 --> 00:14:38,291 I would say it became a cold case. 304 00:14:38,394 --> 00:14:41,881 The, uh, sheriff's department was kind of at a loss. 305 00:14:41,984 --> 00:14:44,400 There was an outcry. I mean, people are scared. 306 00:14:57,379 --> 00:14:59,726 Portage County prosecutor David Norris 307 00:14:59,829 --> 00:15:03,040 was under enormous pressure to solve 308 00:15:03,143 --> 00:15:04,834 this murder in this sleepy town 309 00:15:04,938 --> 00:15:05,905 that never should have happened. 310 00:15:23,750 --> 00:15:28,099 David Norris brought in his bulldog, his enforcer, 311 00:15:28,203 --> 00:15:30,930 an investigator named Ron Craig, 312 00:15:31,033 --> 00:15:33,484 to take a look at this cold case 313 00:15:33,587 --> 00:15:34,968 and see what he could do. 314 00:15:35,417 --> 00:15:39,248 Ron Craig is a guy who has a reputation 315 00:15:39,352 --> 00:15:42,596 of getting confessions from people. 316 00:15:42,700 --> 00:15:45,323 He is the prosecutor's investigator? 317 00:15:45,427 --> 00:15:47,118 Correct. 318 00:15:47,222 --> 00:15:49,017 Why was he considered successful? 319 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,191 He got convictions. 320 00:15:51,295 --> 00:15:52,606 What did they do? 321 00:15:52,710 --> 00:15:55,126 Two years after the murders, 322 00:15:55,230 --> 00:16:01,788 they decided to refocus on Tyrone Noling and friends. 323 00:16:01,891 --> 00:16:05,654 Tyrone is doing time for the Alliance robberies. 324 00:16:05,757 --> 00:16:08,174 So is Gary St. Clair. 325 00:16:08,277 --> 00:16:11,384 Joey was in and out of jail for unrelated drug crimes. 326 00:16:11,487 --> 00:16:13,593 And Butch is out. Butch is free. 327 00:16:13,696 --> 00:16:16,803 So Ron Craig goes right to Butch Wolcott, 328 00:16:16,906 --> 00:16:18,184 who's still a teenager. 329 00:16:18,287 --> 00:16:21,083 He's 16 at this time. 330 00:16:21,187 --> 00:16:24,984 Ron Craig was, uh, intense, to say the very least. 331 00:16:25,087 --> 00:16:28,366 Ron Craig and the prosecutor, 332 00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:30,990 they interrogated me for a long time. 333 00:16:31,093 --> 00:16:33,061 They started to grind on me, you know, 334 00:16:33,164 --> 00:16:34,717 because I wasn't admitting it. 335 00:16:34,821 --> 00:16:37,479 The thing that scared me the most was they said 336 00:16:37,582 --> 00:16:40,689 that they had some utility worker up on a pole 337 00:16:40,792 --> 00:16:42,587 that's seen us there. 338 00:16:42,691 --> 00:16:48,386 And that, to me, was scary because that's an eyewitness. 339 00:16:48,490 --> 00:16:51,286 They also tell him that there was a match 340 00:16:51,389 --> 00:16:52,873 on the cigarette butt to him. 341 00:16:52,977 --> 00:16:55,324 And I'm sure Butch is thinking, 342 00:16:55,428 --> 00:16:58,224 "If they say that there's evidence putting me there, 343 00:16:58,327 --> 00:17:00,019 "then I'm in trouble. 344 00:17:00,122 --> 00:17:02,573 I'm in big trouble." - Yeah. 345 00:17:02,676 --> 00:17:04,954 And they said, "We'll prosecute you. 346 00:17:05,058 --> 00:17:07,267 "Even though you're a juvenile, you might not get death row, 347 00:17:07,371 --> 00:17:09,614 but you'll get the rest of your life." 348 00:17:09,718 --> 00:17:14,274 And they start saying, "Hey, if you say 349 00:17:14,378 --> 00:17:17,001 "that Tyrone was involved in these murders, 350 00:17:17,105 --> 00:17:20,039 "then we'll wipe your record. 351 00:17:20,142 --> 00:17:23,559 We'll give you immunity on the murders." 352 00:17:23,663 --> 00:17:26,217 When they say, "Well, we'll give you immunity," 353 00:17:26,321 --> 00:17:28,357 that was my life's breath. 354 00:17:28,461 --> 00:17:30,670 That was the--the thing that was gonna save me. 355 00:17:30,773 --> 00:17:33,604 I said I--I was there. 356 00:17:33,707 --> 00:17:36,469 So Butch had said they drove 357 00:17:36,572 --> 00:17:41,715 from Alliance to Atwater in Joey Delasandro's car. 358 00:17:41,819 --> 00:17:45,305 They saw the Hartigs' house. 359 00:17:47,135 --> 00:17:50,069 Butch and Joey stay in the car. 360 00:17:50,172 --> 00:17:52,692 And Tyrone and Gary go inside. 361 00:17:52,795 --> 00:17:54,073 While inside, 362 00:17:54,176 --> 00:17:58,491 that is when Tyrone executes the Hartigs. 363 00:18:00,907 --> 00:18:03,806 - Who do they go to next? - They go to Joey next. 364 00:18:03,910 --> 00:18:06,326 And they have Butch saying he was the driver. 365 00:18:06,430 --> 00:18:09,088 And Joey does take a deal. 366 00:18:09,191 --> 00:18:12,056 So the dominoes are starting to fall. 367 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,644 And then there's Gary. 368 00:18:13,747 --> 00:18:17,337 Well, he's already in for 5 to 25 369 00:18:17,441 --> 00:18:19,995 on this first conviction. 370 00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:24,068 What is the investigator and the prosecutor, 371 00:18:24,172 --> 00:18:25,759 um, threatening him with? 372 00:18:25,863 --> 00:18:27,485 Oh, they're threatening him with death. 373 00:18:27,589 --> 00:18:28,659 Mm-hmm. 374 00:18:28,762 --> 00:18:30,454 "We know you were in the house. 375 00:18:30,557 --> 00:18:32,525 "Butch puts you in the house. Joey puts you in the house. 376 00:18:32,628 --> 00:18:34,043 We know you were in the house." 377 00:18:34,147 --> 00:18:36,908 [suspenseful music] 378 00:18:37,012 --> 00:18:44,123 379 00:18:48,644 --> 00:18:50,957 Ron Craig has done his job. 380 00:18:51,060 --> 00:18:54,857 Now three guys-- Butch, Joey, and Gary-- 381 00:18:54,961 --> 00:18:58,551 are pointing the finger at the triggerman, Tyrone Noling. 382 00:19:22,195 --> 00:19:28,926 383 00:19:50,672 --> 00:19:53,985 He refuses the deal to save his life. 384 00:19:54,089 --> 00:19:57,851 He refuses the deal that would keep him off death row. 385 00:19:57,955 --> 00:20:01,200 He knows three people are going to take that stand 386 00:20:01,303 --> 00:20:02,960 and say he killed the Hartigs, 387 00:20:03,063 --> 00:20:07,689 and yet, he does not cave under the pressure. 388 00:20:07,792 --> 00:20:08,897 That blows me away. 389 00:20:11,279 --> 00:20:13,867 So how do you get involved in this case? 390 00:20:13,971 --> 00:20:15,766 At that time, I was working 391 00:20:15,869 --> 00:20:17,975 for a private investigation firm. 392 00:20:18,078 --> 00:20:21,703 I was hired by Tyrone Noling's defense attorneys 393 00:20:21,806 --> 00:20:25,845 to investigate the murder to prepare them for court. 394 00:20:25,948 --> 00:20:26,777 Okay. 395 00:20:31,402 --> 00:20:34,474 What's the evidence that the state puts forward 396 00:20:34,578 --> 00:20:36,338 to try and convict Tyrone? 397 00:20:36,442 --> 00:20:38,582 They didn't have a murder weapon. 398 00:20:38,685 --> 00:20:41,136 They didn't have any DNA evidence. 399 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:46,348 Um, they had the boys who were testifying. 400 00:20:46,452 --> 00:20:49,558 Butch testified that he saw smoke 401 00:20:49,662 --> 00:20:51,526 coming out of Tyrone's gun 402 00:20:51,629 --> 00:20:53,424 as he was fleeing the Hartigs' home. 403 00:20:53,528 --> 00:20:56,634 Then Joey takes the stand and says 404 00:20:56,738 --> 00:20:59,879 that Tyrone calls him from jail. 405 00:20:59,982 --> 00:21:01,984 And he tells him, 406 00:21:02,088 --> 00:21:04,435 "Joey, you've got to get rid of a murder weapon. 407 00:21:04,539 --> 00:21:06,920 It's in the glove compartment of your car." 408 00:21:07,024 --> 00:21:10,199 Joey testifies that he sells it to a fence. 409 00:21:10,303 --> 00:21:13,686 And that's how the murder weapon disappears. 410 00:21:13,789 --> 00:21:16,171 At the trial, everything lines up 411 00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:19,208 just like Tyrone was told it would 412 00:21:19,312 --> 00:21:20,934 except for one thing. 413 00:21:21,038 --> 00:21:24,800 When it's Gary St. Claire's turn to take the stand, 414 00:21:24,904 --> 00:21:26,285 he drops this bombshell. 415 00:21:32,601 --> 00:21:35,259 Gary gets up there and says, 416 00:21:35,363 --> 00:21:37,675 "We weren't there. Tyrone wasn't there. 417 00:21:37,779 --> 00:21:39,194 "He didn't do it. I didn't do it. 418 00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:40,609 None of us did it." 419 00:21:40,713 --> 00:21:42,611 Did the state freak out? 420 00:21:42,715 --> 00:21:45,718 Yeah, they treated him as a hostile witness. 421 00:21:45,821 --> 00:21:47,616 What does that mean? What do they do? 422 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,378 They get up there with his prior statements, 423 00:21:50,481 --> 00:21:53,035 and they tried to impeach him. 424 00:21:53,139 --> 00:21:55,003 - Mm-hmm. - "Didn't you say that?" 425 00:21:55,106 --> 00:21:56,625 and "Didn't you say this?" 426 00:21:56,729 --> 00:21:59,628 And so Gary was forced to say yes, yes, yes. 427 00:21:59,732 --> 00:22:01,527 You would think that would create 428 00:22:01,630 --> 00:22:05,703 reasonable doubt in the jury's mind, but somehow, it did not. 429 00:22:19,648 --> 00:22:22,582 [suspenseful music] 430 00:22:22,686 --> 00:22:29,589 431 00:22:47,642 --> 00:22:49,264 So for a young man 432 00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:52,681 who declares his innocence this whole time, 433 00:22:52,785 --> 00:22:56,478 is sentenced to death, what do you do? 434 00:22:56,582 --> 00:23:00,758 He got a post-conviction attorney... 435 00:23:00,862 --> 00:23:03,278 - Mm-hmm. - And that's where I came in. 436 00:23:03,382 --> 00:23:05,556 - You came back in? - I came back in. 437 00:23:05,660 --> 00:23:07,109 So what did you do? 438 00:23:07,213 --> 00:23:09,905 I wanted to find Butch so bad. 439 00:23:10,009 --> 00:23:12,045 One day, this pretty little lady 440 00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:13,702 was knocking on my door, 441 00:23:13,806 --> 00:23:16,049 and, um, she asked me if--if she could talk to me, 442 00:23:16,153 --> 00:23:18,120 and I'm like, "Yeah, sure." 443 00:23:18,224 --> 00:23:21,883 I said, "I'm here about the Tyrone Noling case." 444 00:23:21,986 --> 00:23:24,264 He thought I was from the prosecutor's office. 445 00:23:24,368 --> 00:23:27,785 I was in a ton of fear at this point in my life. 446 00:23:27,889 --> 00:23:30,029 I thought, "They're gonna wrap it up somehow 447 00:23:30,132 --> 00:23:31,858 and get me in prison too." 448 00:23:31,962 --> 00:23:34,965 When I told Butch that I just wanted to hear his story, 449 00:23:35,068 --> 00:23:39,107 his legs went weak because he was so relieved. 450 00:23:39,210 --> 00:23:41,868 She said, you know, "You--you can change everything 451 00:23:41,972 --> 00:23:43,698 and say which-- what the truth is." 452 00:23:43,801 --> 00:23:45,700 I was like, "Yes, let's do that." 453 00:23:45,803 --> 00:23:48,634 Butch said, "I will do whatever it takes 454 00:23:48,737 --> 00:23:50,670 "to make this right. 455 00:23:50,774 --> 00:23:54,467 "The testimony that I gave put this man on death row. 456 00:23:54,571 --> 00:23:57,781 I can't live with myself for what I did." 457 00:24:02,993 --> 00:24:05,582 Ronald Craig, the devil incarnate. 458 00:24:05,685 --> 00:24:07,549 That's not a joke. 459 00:24:07,653 --> 00:24:10,034 When you don't say what he wants you to say, 460 00:24:10,138 --> 00:24:13,866 there's tons of pressure, tons of, uh, intimidation. 461 00:24:13,969 --> 00:24:18,629 They wouldn't let my dad into the interrogation room. 462 00:24:18,733 --> 00:24:22,737 I probably got a good 40, 50 hours of interrogation, 463 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,981 which is very terrifying to go through, 464 00:24:26,085 --> 00:24:30,192 especially when people have your freedom in their hands. 465 00:24:30,296 --> 00:24:33,713 Ron Craig realized he had a problem, and that was, 466 00:24:33,817 --> 00:24:37,027 Butch didn't know anything about the crime. 467 00:24:37,130 --> 00:24:39,547 He didn't know anything about the crime scene. 468 00:24:39,650 --> 00:24:41,756 He couldn't even describe the Hartigs' house. 469 00:24:41,859 --> 00:24:43,551 Nothing. 470 00:24:43,654 --> 00:24:46,381 So to solve this problem, 471 00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:48,901 the Portage County investigative team 472 00:24:49,004 --> 00:24:54,907 brings in a psychologist to unearth buried memories. 473 00:24:55,010 --> 00:24:56,874 They told me he was gonna 474 00:24:56,978 --> 00:24:58,911 get the memories to come out. 475 00:24:59,014 --> 00:25:01,154 Now, I had no reason to believe that they were lying. 476 00:25:01,258 --> 00:25:02,466 "Okay, I did forget it. 477 00:25:02,570 --> 00:25:04,399 "So yeah, let me go see this doctor, 478 00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:06,366 and let's get these memories out 479 00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:09,093 so I'm not holding on to this." 480 00:25:09,197 --> 00:25:13,235 Butch said that they fed him information. 481 00:25:13,339 --> 00:25:16,169 So after he tells them that he can't describe the house, 482 00:25:16,273 --> 00:25:19,656 they drive him to the house. 483 00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:23,591 So there's myself, the doctor, and Ron Craig, 484 00:25:23,694 --> 00:25:26,248 all driving down this road. 485 00:25:26,352 --> 00:25:28,596 Everything was normal, conversation was normal. 486 00:25:28,699 --> 00:25:32,496 And then as we were coming up on the house, 487 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,153 everything got quiet. 488 00:25:34,256 --> 00:25:36,224 The car slowed down-- 489 00:25:36,327 --> 00:25:39,676 slowed down enough for him to look at the house 490 00:25:39,779 --> 00:25:41,367 and then look through the rearview mirror 491 00:25:41,470 --> 00:25:45,233 directly into my eyes, and then back at the house. 492 00:25:45,336 --> 00:25:48,236 And that was my signal. 493 00:25:48,339 --> 00:25:52,136 "That's the house. That's the one. That's it." 494 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,794 Nobody sees what Ron Craig's doing. 495 00:25:54,898 --> 00:25:56,520 He's not making any noises. 496 00:25:56,624 --> 00:25:58,798 Everything is subliminal. 497 00:25:58,902 --> 00:26:01,007 This is what I should be describing to them 498 00:26:01,111 --> 00:26:04,183 because this is what they obviously want to hear. 499 00:26:04,286 --> 00:26:06,323 The doctor told the prosecution team, 500 00:26:06,426 --> 00:26:08,256 Ron Craig et al, 501 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,085 that he was concerned 502 00:26:10,189 --> 00:26:12,881 that the more they pressed Butch, 503 00:26:12,985 --> 00:26:15,539 the more frightened he was that what they were doing 504 00:26:15,643 --> 00:26:19,267 was pushing him to make a false statement. 505 00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:22,960 He warned them that it might be going too far. 506 00:26:23,064 --> 00:26:25,894 Prosecutors ignored that and continued 507 00:26:25,998 --> 00:26:31,831 to condition and rehearse Butch. 508 00:26:31,935 --> 00:26:37,078 I was telling lies, lies, lies, lies, to do what? 509 00:26:37,181 --> 00:26:38,700 Save myself. 510 00:26:38,804 --> 00:26:40,253 And they put me in a predicament 511 00:26:40,357 --> 00:26:42,290 where it was okay to lie. 512 00:26:42,393 --> 00:26:46,674 It was like being molested, but in your brain. 513 00:26:46,777 --> 00:26:48,434 He was manipulated. 514 00:26:48,537 --> 00:26:53,128 If you think about how old he was, it was child abuse. 515 00:26:53,232 --> 00:26:56,166 Here's what didn't happen. None of it. 516 00:26:57,926 --> 00:26:59,687 The whole thing is made up. 517 00:26:59,790 --> 00:27:02,517 We were never there. 518 00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:04,001 The car never went there. 519 00:27:04,105 --> 00:27:07,315 Those tires were never on that road. 520 00:27:07,418 --> 00:27:09,006 It didn't happen. 521 00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:15,979 522 00:27:20,190 --> 00:27:24,988 Joey says that Ron Craig et al were yelling at him, 523 00:27:25,091 --> 00:27:28,439 telling him he's got to come through for them. 524 00:27:28,543 --> 00:27:30,925 They all had the same story. 525 00:27:31,028 --> 00:27:36,689 They have a choice: lie, confess, or die. 526 00:27:36,793 --> 00:27:38,967 You have kids without advocates. 527 00:27:39,071 --> 00:27:41,383 You have a crime that everyone's desperate to solve. 528 00:27:41,487 --> 00:27:44,317 It's a perfect storm to create a false confession. 529 00:27:50,427 --> 00:27:52,843 We have three affidavits. 530 00:27:52,947 --> 00:27:55,328 The only people who could put Tyrone in that house, 531 00:27:55,432 --> 00:27:56,778 they've all recanted. 532 00:27:56,882 --> 00:27:58,918 I'm over the moon excited about it. 533 00:27:59,022 --> 00:28:00,230 And so what does that mean, if that's 534 00:28:00,333 --> 00:28:01,645 what the state's case was based on 535 00:28:01,749 --> 00:28:03,267 and they all take it back? 536 00:28:03,371 --> 00:28:08,134 Portage County actually gave us an evidentiary hearing. 537 00:28:08,238 --> 00:28:10,343 But the bad thing is, you have a county 538 00:28:10,447 --> 00:28:12,794 who prosecutes these guys... 539 00:28:12,898 --> 00:28:15,417 - Mm-hmm. - And then you have judges 540 00:28:15,521 --> 00:28:18,489 in the same county that you have to deal with. 541 00:28:18,593 --> 00:28:21,044 So when we got to the hearing, 542 00:28:21,147 --> 00:28:23,632 the judge wouldn't let the boys testify. 543 00:28:23,736 --> 00:28:27,188 And the attorney is like, "You have to hear these boys. 544 00:28:27,291 --> 00:28:28,534 They're credible." 545 00:28:28,637 --> 00:28:30,536 And judge goes, "Nope." 546 00:28:30,639 --> 00:28:32,365 So basically, it was dead in the water. 547 00:28:32,469 --> 00:28:35,196 Nothing? [sighs] 548 00:28:35,299 --> 00:28:38,855 Did the court not care about new information? 549 00:28:38,958 --> 00:28:41,996 It's almost impossible to get a conviction overturned. 550 00:28:42,099 --> 00:28:45,240 The anchor of the case against Tyrone 551 00:28:45,344 --> 00:28:49,106 are these three eyewitness testimonies. 552 00:28:49,210 --> 00:28:51,350 But all three of them have been recanted. 553 00:28:51,453 --> 00:28:53,973 Why do you feel like there's so much pushback? 554 00:28:54,077 --> 00:28:56,424 If you have a wrongful conviction, 555 00:28:56,527 --> 00:28:59,185 not only are they gonna owe Tyrone Noling a lot 556 00:28:59,289 --> 00:29:01,187 of monetary value, but they're also 557 00:29:01,291 --> 00:29:05,191 gonna have to maybe go back into all of their cases 558 00:29:05,295 --> 00:29:08,574 that investigator was involved in and take a second look. 559 00:29:08,677 --> 00:29:10,852 So they'd rather kill a potentially innocent person 560 00:29:10,956 --> 00:29:12,785 than go back and check their work? 561 00:29:12,889 --> 00:29:14,614 That's my view. 562 00:29:14,718 --> 00:29:18,757 I mean, reputation trumps life. 563 00:29:23,347 --> 00:29:26,005 [suspenseful music] 564 00:29:26,109 --> 00:29:27,627 This is the neighborhood 565 00:29:27,731 --> 00:29:31,321 where Tyrone and Gary and Joey and Butch 566 00:29:31,424 --> 00:29:33,219 were all living together. 567 00:29:33,323 --> 00:29:38,293 The boys' goal was to rob people so they had money, 568 00:29:38,397 --> 00:29:40,502 they could buy beer, they could buy weed. 569 00:29:40,606 --> 00:29:44,644 Their whole MO was to stay local and find places 570 00:29:44,748 --> 00:29:48,821 that they can access on foot, that these boys would make 571 00:29:48,925 --> 00:29:54,033 the commute from here, almost 10 miles out, to a place where 572 00:29:54,137 --> 00:29:56,967 you have no connection, 573 00:29:57,071 --> 00:30:00,453 and then murder an elderly couple 574 00:30:00,557 --> 00:30:03,146 and not take anything. 575 00:30:03,249 --> 00:30:07,944 I don't know how you make that motive make sense to a jury. 576 00:30:08,047 --> 00:30:10,601 Hey, hey. - Hey. How are you? 577 00:30:10,705 --> 00:30:11,982 How great to meet you. 578 00:30:12,086 --> 00:30:14,260 Yeah, I'm so happy to meet you. 579 00:30:14,364 --> 00:30:17,298 I have such respect for the work that you do. 580 00:30:17,401 --> 00:30:19,058 Thank you. 581 00:30:19,162 --> 00:30:22,027 Tell me about this case as an investigative journalist. 582 00:30:22,130 --> 00:30:24,615 I had done some work on wrongful convictions 583 00:30:24,719 --> 00:30:26,479 in the past. 584 00:30:26,583 --> 00:30:30,759 You have to be really careful about what cases you go after. 585 00:30:30,863 --> 00:30:34,487 Well, 'cause do you feel like your reputation is on the line 586 00:30:34,591 --> 00:30:36,213 when you dig in to something? 587 00:30:36,317 --> 00:30:41,425 100%, but this case started bothering me out the gate. 588 00:30:41,529 --> 00:30:46,154 I mean, if you're at 14, 16, 18, 20, right, 589 00:30:46,258 --> 00:30:51,021 and you're hearing, "You can either tell us Tyrone did it, 590 00:30:51,125 --> 00:30:54,335 or you are going to die," that's a death threat. 591 00:30:54,438 --> 00:30:56,509 It's a--they're being threatened with death, 592 00:30:56,613 --> 00:30:58,235 the ultimate penalty. 593 00:30:58,339 --> 00:31:00,444 I started looking into the case and I'm like, "Oh my God, 594 00:31:00,548 --> 00:31:02,412 "wait, so no hair, 595 00:31:02,515 --> 00:31:04,103 "no physical evidence whatsoever, 596 00:31:04,207 --> 00:31:06,278 "no blood, no saliva, no weapon, 597 00:31:06,381 --> 00:31:07,900 nothing, nothing, nothing, right?" 598 00:31:08,004 --> 00:31:10,869 You can send somebody on death row with nothing? 599 00:31:10,972 --> 00:31:13,457 And yeah, the answer is yes, you can. 600 00:31:13,561 --> 00:31:16,253 So I tried to find every living human being 601 00:31:16,357 --> 00:31:18,600 who would talk to me that touched the case, 602 00:31:18,704 --> 00:31:21,949 and one of those people was an Alliance cop 603 00:31:22,052 --> 00:31:24,503 who impounded Joey's car, 604 00:31:24,606 --> 00:31:28,024 because at trial, Joey got on the stand 605 00:31:28,127 --> 00:31:31,096 and explained the reason the murder weapon 606 00:31:31,199 --> 00:31:33,132 wasn't in Tyrone's possession. 607 00:31:33,236 --> 00:31:35,031 Joey said they left the murder weapon 608 00:31:35,134 --> 00:31:36,791 in the glove compartment of the car. 609 00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:39,000 And after they were all arrested, 610 00:31:39,104 --> 00:31:41,969 Tyrone told him to get rid of it. 611 00:31:42,072 --> 00:31:44,109 But Joey couldn't have gotten rid of the gun 612 00:31:44,212 --> 00:31:45,938 because no gun existed 613 00:31:46,042 --> 00:31:47,664 because police had already searched the car. 614 00:32:03,922 --> 00:32:06,200 He didn't find the murder weapon 'cause it wasn't there. 615 00:32:06,303 --> 00:32:08,271 And when I asked the prosecutor, 616 00:32:08,374 --> 00:32:09,962 Vigliucci, about this, yeah, 617 00:32:10,066 --> 00:32:12,620 he said, uh, the cop was clearly mistaken. 618 00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:20,283 In this situation, the prosecutor 619 00:32:20,386 --> 00:32:24,045 is undermining the Alliance Police Department. 620 00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:26,565 Yeah--that car was impounded, and it was searched, 621 00:32:26,668 --> 00:32:29,223 and there was no .25 in the glove compartment, 622 00:32:29,326 --> 00:32:30,810 and you're telling us we should disregard that? 623 00:32:30,914 --> 00:32:31,880 That's ridiculous. 624 00:32:31,984 --> 00:32:38,542 625 00:32:38,646 --> 00:32:41,545 In the prosecutor's files, I found evidence 626 00:32:41,649 --> 00:32:44,134 that wasn't presented to the jury 627 00:32:44,238 --> 00:32:47,068 that is about alternative suspects. 628 00:32:47,172 --> 00:32:49,726 The insurance agent interested me. 629 00:32:49,829 --> 00:32:51,935 Not only because he had confirmed 630 00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:53,902 to have had the same caliber weapon 631 00:32:54,006 --> 00:32:56,353 as was used in the murders, 632 00:32:56,457 --> 00:32:59,563 but that he had a relationship with the Hartigs. 633 00:32:59,667 --> 00:33:02,497 He had been in the Hartig home. 634 00:33:02,601 --> 00:33:05,673 And if we go back to the crime scene, 635 00:33:05,776 --> 00:33:06,950 there were papers everywhere, 636 00:33:07,054 --> 00:33:09,366 as if someone was looking for something. 637 00:33:09,470 --> 00:33:11,299 They certainly weren't looking for money. 638 00:33:11,403 --> 00:33:15,372 They left jewelry and they left $160 in cash. 639 00:33:15,476 --> 00:33:19,342 Could there have been a record of a loan that had gone bad, 640 00:33:19,445 --> 00:33:23,208 and could that be the reason that the Hartigs were killed? 641 00:33:23,311 --> 00:33:26,487 I don't know, but it's a legitimate thing to ask. 642 00:33:26,590 --> 00:33:28,282 The jurors never heard about it. 643 00:33:33,977 --> 00:33:36,876 Andrea laid it out like a roadmap, 644 00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:39,258 everything that was done in this case 645 00:33:39,362 --> 00:33:41,847 and about the coercion. 646 00:33:41,950 --> 00:33:43,745 She wrote a beautiful article 647 00:33:43,849 --> 00:33:47,853 about what can happen in a little small town like this. 648 00:33:47,956 --> 00:33:50,787 When your article comes out, 649 00:33:50,890 --> 00:33:52,340 is the newspaper confident 650 00:33:52,444 --> 00:33:55,585 or are they nervous about attacking elected officials? 651 00:33:55,688 --> 00:33:57,345 They would not have published it 652 00:33:57,449 --> 00:34:01,660 had they not felt it could stand up to scrutiny. 653 00:34:01,763 --> 00:34:04,387 And I was really hopeful that it would blow it wide open, 654 00:34:04,490 --> 00:34:05,560 it would make a difference. 655 00:34:05,664 --> 00:34:07,562 And certainly, Tyrone's attorneys 656 00:34:07,666 --> 00:34:09,771 were excited by it because they said 657 00:34:09,875 --> 00:34:12,843 there were other things I found in the court record 658 00:34:12,947 --> 00:34:14,086 that they didn't know about. 659 00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:17,745 So we decided to publish all of it. 660 00:34:17,848 --> 00:34:22,336 We put it online so anybody could have access to it. 661 00:34:22,439 --> 00:34:24,855 Is anything found post-conviction 662 00:34:24,959 --> 00:34:26,547 that should have been flagged? 663 00:34:26,650 --> 00:34:29,895 Tyrone's attorneys were able to pluck documents 664 00:34:29,998 --> 00:34:34,072 that they say were not heard at trial. 665 00:34:34,175 --> 00:34:35,901 Police during the initial investigation 666 00:34:36,004 --> 00:34:37,523 talked to a lot of people. 667 00:34:37,627 --> 00:34:39,353 And one of the people told them 668 00:34:39,456 --> 00:34:43,150 about a young man who told someone at his school 669 00:34:43,253 --> 00:34:46,118 that his foster brother had killed the Hartigs, 670 00:34:46,222 --> 00:34:48,603 but the police just dropped it, 671 00:34:48,707 --> 00:34:52,090 and Tyrone's attorneys found this document 672 00:34:52,193 --> 00:34:54,402 and then they found this young man, 673 00:34:54,506 --> 00:34:56,370 Nathan Chesley, who's now an adult, 674 00:34:56,473 --> 00:34:59,235 and what he had to say, it's shocking. 675 00:35:01,409 --> 00:35:03,170 My name is Nathan Chesley. 676 00:35:03,273 --> 00:35:08,416 And in 1990, I was 17. I was a ward of the state. 677 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,004 Then they sent me to a foster home 678 00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:12,075 in Atwater, Ohio. 679 00:35:12,179 --> 00:35:13,732 Dan Wilson also stayed there. 680 00:35:13,835 --> 00:35:17,149 Dan Wilson had various crimes as a child, 681 00:35:17,253 --> 00:35:19,117 but the biggest one was murder. 682 00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:22,396 Dan was robbing an elderly man. 683 00:35:22,499 --> 00:35:24,363 Threw him down the stairs. Killed him. 684 00:35:24,467 --> 00:35:26,538 Everybody knew Dan was a murderer. 685 00:35:29,575 --> 00:35:31,681 When I was in foster care, 686 00:35:31,784 --> 00:35:33,510 where we were staying in Atwater was 687 00:35:33,614 --> 00:35:37,687 within about a mile of the Hartigs' house. 688 00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:39,102 Dan knew the Hartigs. 689 00:35:39,206 --> 00:35:40,862 He mowed their grass. 690 00:35:40,966 --> 00:35:44,072 One night after the murders of the Hartigs, Dan came in. 691 00:35:44,176 --> 00:35:45,833 I could tell he was drunk. 692 00:35:45,936 --> 00:35:47,179 He had that look on his face, 693 00:35:47,283 --> 00:35:50,148 and he was talking in a different tone. 694 00:35:50,251 --> 00:35:53,565 And he explained that he had killed the Hartigs. 695 00:35:53,668 --> 00:35:57,776 And he was just kind of, like, confessing on himself. 696 00:35:57,879 --> 00:36:01,020 He never went into why they were killed. 697 00:36:01,124 --> 00:36:03,678 But I was 100% for sure he did it 698 00:36:03,782 --> 00:36:07,855 because he had a .25, uh, auto handgun. 699 00:36:07,958 --> 00:36:09,684 Dan was a very violent person. 700 00:36:09,788 --> 00:36:11,341 Anything was possible. 701 00:36:11,445 --> 00:36:14,413 [suspenseful music] 702 00:36:14,517 --> 00:36:18,348 703 00:36:18,452 --> 00:36:21,558 I was just waiting for a--a knock on the door 704 00:36:21,662 --> 00:36:26,080 from law enforcement, but they never did. 705 00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:29,325 After that, Dan left right away. 706 00:36:29,428 --> 00:36:31,154 The next time I heard about him-- 707 00:36:31,258 --> 00:36:32,535 on the news they were talking about 708 00:36:32,638 --> 00:36:34,709 "Dan Wilson, Ohio, is gonna be executed." 709 00:36:34,813 --> 00:36:40,612 710 00:36:40,715 --> 00:36:43,546 Dan Wilson kidnapped a young woman, 711 00:36:43,649 --> 00:36:46,238 put her body in the trunk, and set the car on fire. 712 00:36:46,342 --> 00:36:49,068 I thought he looked better as a suspect 713 00:36:49,172 --> 00:36:51,312 from a psychological standpoint 714 00:36:51,416 --> 00:36:54,246 than scared rabbit Noling and his gang. 715 00:36:54,350 --> 00:36:56,214 I wanted to talk to Norris and ask him 716 00:36:56,317 --> 00:36:59,907 why he discounted this suspect. 717 00:37:12,437 --> 00:37:15,025 He never gave me a satisfactory answer. 718 00:37:15,129 --> 00:37:20,341 719 00:37:20,445 --> 00:37:23,068 We're looking for cases where there is new evidence 720 00:37:23,171 --> 00:37:24,276 that can be raised to the court. 721 00:37:24,380 --> 00:37:26,313 There were documents in the files 722 00:37:26,416 --> 00:37:28,211 of Tyrone's co-defendants 723 00:37:28,315 --> 00:37:33,009 that do not appear to be in Tyrone's file. 724 00:37:33,112 --> 00:37:36,944 What these notes show is that even prior to Tyrone's trial, 725 00:37:37,047 --> 00:37:40,534 police had thought enough of Dan Wilson as a suspect 726 00:37:40,637 --> 00:37:44,503 to compare his blood type to the blood type from saliva 727 00:37:44,607 --> 00:37:47,265 from the cigarette butt found in the Hartigs' driveway, 728 00:37:47,368 --> 00:37:50,268 and found that it was consistent. 729 00:37:50,371 --> 00:37:52,787 So the DNA tests had definitively 730 00:37:52,891 --> 00:37:56,826 excluded Tyrone and his co-defendants. 731 00:37:56,929 --> 00:38:00,968 But Dan Wilson could not be excluded. 732 00:38:01,071 --> 00:38:03,522 You have a very credible lead 733 00:38:03,626 --> 00:38:06,422 against a p--a person who had 734 00:38:06,525 --> 00:38:08,458 committed other violent crimes, 735 00:38:08,562 --> 00:38:10,667 who lived right next door to the Hartigs, 736 00:38:10,771 --> 00:38:12,807 and the jury never got to hear any of that. 737 00:38:12,911 --> 00:38:19,227 738 00:38:19,331 --> 00:38:21,609 Justice is not just having a guy in jail. 739 00:38:21,713 --> 00:38:23,473 It's having the right person in jail. 740 00:38:23,577 --> 00:38:25,958 The Innocence Project wanted me to get my story 741 00:38:26,062 --> 00:38:28,306 to the court. 742 00:38:28,409 --> 00:38:31,585 So I went to Portage County and sat there 743 00:38:31,688 --> 00:38:33,587 and sat there. [chuckles] 744 00:38:33,690 --> 00:38:35,554 Literally, I sat there probably four or five hours 745 00:38:35,658 --> 00:38:38,661 on a bench waiting to get called in to tell the judge 746 00:38:38,764 --> 00:38:40,110 what I had to say about Dan. 747 00:38:40,214 --> 00:38:46,565 748 00:38:46,669 --> 00:38:48,360 They just let me go and wouldn't hear anything. 749 00:38:48,464 --> 00:38:51,018 They didn't care that it could be Dan. 750 00:38:58,957 --> 00:39:00,441 There are lots of things at the scene 751 00:39:00,545 --> 00:39:03,202 that were likely last touched 752 00:39:03,306 --> 00:39:05,377 by the person who committed the crime-- 753 00:39:05,481 --> 00:39:09,174 10 casings from the .25-caliber pistol, 754 00:39:09,277 --> 00:39:13,212 ring boxes that were opened and rummaged through. 755 00:39:13,316 --> 00:39:16,526 Touch DNA is something we could never have done in 1990. 756 00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:19,218 But now, we have state-of-the-art testing 757 00:39:19,322 --> 00:39:22,567 that can pick up just if you've touched something, right? 758 00:39:22,670 --> 00:39:26,294 This perhaps would be finally the exoneration 759 00:39:26,398 --> 00:39:27,848 Tyrone has sought. - Yeah. 760 00:39:27,951 --> 00:39:30,885 It could also lead us to the real killer. 761 00:39:30,989 --> 00:39:37,892 762 00:39:37,996 --> 00:39:40,516 This case stinks. We all know it. 763 00:39:40,619 --> 00:39:45,072 And yet one prosecutor, with Ohio judges' help, 764 00:39:45,175 --> 00:39:47,730 is looking the other way. 765 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,608 You have no idea how deep inside of me 766 00:40:03,711 --> 00:40:05,368 I want to say I'm sorry. 767 00:40:05,472 --> 00:40:07,405 And the saddest part is, 768 00:40:07,508 --> 00:40:09,268 if I wasn't a kid and so scared, 769 00:40:09,372 --> 00:40:11,685 then I would have told the truth from the beginning, 770 00:40:11,788 --> 00:40:14,412 and none of this would have happened. 771 00:40:43,475 --> 00:40:44,821 People love true crime. 772 00:40:44,925 --> 00:40:47,755 They love solving the puzzle. 773 00:40:47,859 --> 00:40:50,620 But then it's really easy to turn the channel 774 00:40:50,724 --> 00:40:53,209 or turn the television off and forget that 775 00:40:53,312 --> 00:40:57,696 there is a potentially innocent person who's going to die. 776 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,286 He's going to die if something isn't done. 777 00:41:01,389 --> 00:41:04,254 [somber music] 778 00:41:04,358 --> 00:41:09,225 779 00:41:09,328 --> 00:41:13,471 I'm sorry, it's overwhelming. It just hits you sometimes. 58424

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