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The people were asleep.
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Someone had entered
the bedroom,
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fired bullets
into the two victims,
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and set the house on fire.
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This really isn't
the kind of crime
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that you see in small towns.
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It's an execution.
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In the three years
leading up to their death,
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the Kolesnikows had been in,
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like, a lot of legal disputes.
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He said, "Greg talked about
hiring a hitman
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to take care
of the Kolesnikows."
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Our question isn't,
"Who had motive?"
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Because a lot of people
had motive.
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He had 26 eviction lawsuits
that he had filed.
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This is about,
which one of them did it?
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[dark country music]
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Cookeville is like
a college town.
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It's close enough to Nashville
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that there's, you know,
stuff going on.
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You've got access
to culture and art.
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It's a little bit urban
and a little bit--
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a little bit country.
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You got a bunch
of good old country folks.
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Um, I mean, I can say
that my family is.
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Shoot your gun when you want.
Play music where you want.
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Drive off the road
where you want.
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What's really beautiful
about this area
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is that it is
the heartland of America.
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You know, you could come here
with whatever dream you have,
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and with hard work, you know,
the dreams are realized.
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You see a lot of that
in Tennessee.
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The case that
we're looking into here,
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different people in this
community all had big dreams.
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And some of them went
horribly wrong.
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Victor Kolesnikow
and his wife, Alla,
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were a couple
from the Ukraine,
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and the community members here
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referred to them
as "the foreigners."
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Or "the Germans"
or "the Russians."
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You know, nobody could
quite put their finger
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on what their background was.
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They retired here, and it was
their American dream.
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And they started
working in real estate
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and really saw the potential
in a beautiful place like this.
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But in 1998,
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the Kolesnikows were murdered
here in Cookeville.
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And to this day,
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there are a number of people
in the community
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who still feel like
justice hasn't been served.
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The call come in
from a neighbor
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across the street.
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The fire department arrived.
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At that time,
there was no indication
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that anybody was in the house.
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By the time
the fire was suppressed,
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the house had suffered
massive damage.
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Local departmental investigators
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called for assistance
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from the State
Fire Marshal's Office.
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I was one of the first
team members to arrive.
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The skeletal remains
of the house
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are still smoldering
from a fire
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that started around 3:30 a.m.
Wednesday morning.
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State Fire Marshal investigators
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sift through the ashes
looking for clues.
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We entered into the house.
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There was massive damage.
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The roof over the bedroom
was completely burned away.
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And there were two bodies
on the bed.
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Both people were dead
from gunshot wounds.
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We recovered several
9-millimeter rounds
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from in and around the body.
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An accelerant had been poured
in the room
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and the house is set on fire.
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This was no random fire.
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This was intentional
to cover up the murders.
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My name is Linda Bowsman.
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At the time of the murders,
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I was judicial assistant
for an appellate court judge.
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When law enforcement
spoke with the neighbors,
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they didn't know much.
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No one saw a person there.
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There really wasn't much
for law enforcement to go on.
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Working in a small town
in law enforcement,
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everybody knows everybody.
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Everybody knows
everybody's business.
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You know,
our job was just to dig up
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the facts that we could find.
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Like a lot
of small town murders,
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this case didn't get
a lot of national attention.
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The only person who really
covered it extensively
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was Rabia Chaudry
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with her podcast,
"Undisclosed."
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I really hope Rabia can
give us a framework
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for understanding this
very complex small town case.
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Hello?
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Hi. Hi, Hilarie.
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Hi, Rabia. How are you?
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Good. How are you?
Nice to meet you.
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You did so much research.
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So what can you tell us
about this case?
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It was
a pretty horrifying crime
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the way they were killed.
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The house was set on fire.
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I mean, it caught, you know,
the attention of the TBI.
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They got involved,
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the Tennessee Bureau
of Investigation.
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They were the lead
on this case.
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What was
the immediate response
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from investigators
the morning of the fire?
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One of the first people
they talked to
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was Victor's sister.
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And the first thing
she told them was that he was
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in the process of suing
this guy named Greg Lance.
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Greg bought a trailer park
from Victor
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as a--as a direct buy.
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Greg Lance purchased
the property
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from Victor and Alla,
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and they loaned him,
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like, $375,000.
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At the time of the murders,
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Victor was in the process
of foreclosing
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on the trailer park
for unpaid taxes.
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And Greg was
challenging it in court.
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Two days prior to the hearing
is when the murders happened.
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At this point, law enforcement
believes that the trailer park
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was a motive for the murders
of the Kolesnikows.
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The morning of the murders,
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the investigators start
looking at the trailer park
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that Victor Kolesnikow
had sold to Greg Lance.
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And at this trailer park,
there's a house at the entrance
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where Greg lives
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with his girlfriend, Becky,
his friend,
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and the property manager, Keith,
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and Keith's girlfriend, Kay.
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I'm Kay Sanders, and I'm
a friend of Greg Lance's.
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That trailer park
was like living
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in a totally different land.
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They were like
their own little family.
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They all would get together
and talk about each other.
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Most of these people
were struggling
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and doing the best
that they could.
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A lot of people would call it
the slums of Cookeville.
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And I know Greg was always
working hard at trying
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to improve the look
of the trailer park.
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Greg was about 26, 27.
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I was shocked that
he owned the trailer park
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because he was so young.
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Keith Herbstreith
worked for Greg Lance.
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He ran the trailer park
for him.
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Keith and Greg were
really good friends.
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Cops showed up
wanting to talk to everybody.
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A man comes over
and talks to Greg and Keith
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and lets them know
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that Mr. and Mrs. Kolesnikow
had been murdered.
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Bob Krofssik was
running the investigation.
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He was the TBI agent.
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He went through Greg's room.
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He was going through the house
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and they were
just pulling drawers out
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and going through everything.
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Greg let 'em
search the house.
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There was nothing in the house,
no evidence.
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There was just nothing there.
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They asked Greg where he was
on the night of the murders,
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and Greg was out
at Happy Days bar.
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He came home about 1:00,
and he and Becky went to bed.
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And Becky was able
to verify Greg's alibi.
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An hour or two later,
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Bob Krofssik was telling us
not to leave town.
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We were all scared.
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So after this whole day
of questioning Greg
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and everyone else surrounding
him in the trailer park,
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investigators are not able
to piece together anything.
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There's nothing connecting
Greg to the crime at all.
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Not a witness,
not forensics, nothing.
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But Rabia,
was there anybody else
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who was also having
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financial difficulty
with Victor?
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Oh, definitely.
Victor was very litigious.
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I mean, I know at the time
of his death,
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he had 26 outstanding,
like, eviction lawsuits
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that he had filed
against tenants.
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That's a lot of people
in his orbit
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that all need to be looked at.
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Yeah.
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Victor and Alla would do
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these rent-to-buy options
with tenants.
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Mm-hmm.
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And then they would
find a reason
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to renege on the contract
to get the property back.
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So it could have been
any number of people
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who were angry
with the Kolesnikows.
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We're heading over to meet up
with Linda Bowsman,
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who is a really cool woman.
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She had been a judicial
assistant in the courts
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and dug up information
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that no one else had
been able to find.
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She, more than anybody,
has a really firm grasp
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on the details of this case
and a lot of knowledge
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about where things
might have gone wrong.
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I-I can't even imagine,
like, tackling this
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without all the work
that you have done.
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'Cause it's so much.
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There's a lot here
and there's so many layers.
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It was about 2002 when I became
involved in the case.
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And then it became
an obsession,
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and I was so determined
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that I was gonna
solve this puzzle.
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Talk to me a little bit
about what happened
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at the Kolesnikow house.
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- Mm-hmm. Early on...
- Yeah.
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They had no real clue
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of who had committed
the murders.
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If they had known,
they would have made an arrest.
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Yeah.
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Cookeville's a small town.
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A lot of people here
are related to each other.
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A lot of gossip here
about what went on
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during that time period.
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A lot of things being told
around the trailer park
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that may or may not be true.
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There's a rumor
every 2 feet.
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You know,
we followed the leads
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that were presented to us.
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You know, some of them
were just outlandish.
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There was discussion
of the Russian mafia
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and--and that--
somebody followed up on it,
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and it went nowhere.
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A couple weeks had passed,
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and there was no evidence
of any kind
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that indicated
who had done the murders.
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There was nothing.
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They don't find
a murder weapon
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or any evidence?
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Nothing.
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There doesn't seem to be
any forward momentum.
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And then the governor
of Tennessee offered a reward.
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And so when that award
gets announced,
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what's the next thing
that happens?
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The day that the reward
was announced,
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some people called
law enforcement
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and told them
that they had heard shooting
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at one of their
neighbor's farms
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the weekend
before the murders.
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The farm was empty,
and they were concerned.
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They told the TBI
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that they had walked
the property over there,
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had gone up into the barn,
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and that there were
two military-type gas cans.
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They said that the day
before the murders,
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the gas cans were still there
in the barn,
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but that the day
of the murders,
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they were gone.
261
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This farm was owned
by Mike Herron,
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a friend of Greg's.
263
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Greg Lance is the guy
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buying the trailer park
from Victor Kolesnikow.
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Our team was activated along
with several investigators
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from the Sheriff's office
and TBI.
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We responded out to the farm,
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and we conducted
a search of the farm.
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My primary responsibility
was in and around the shed.
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Some of the things
we noted was,
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there was a fresh area
of the wall
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that had just been
randomly cut out.
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It stood out
like a sore thumb.
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I was born
and raised on a farm,
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live on a farm now,
and I can think of no reason
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to just go cut a hole
in my--in my barn.
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And it appeared that the wall,
278
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somebody had tried
to set it on fire.
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That rung everybody's bell.
280
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We found a sort of fire pit
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which was right outside
of the building
282
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where that hole was cut,
and we sifted the debris.
283
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We found in and around the area
284
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multiple shell casings
and bullets.
285
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Most of the bullets
were--were 9-millimeter.
286
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They were sent to the lab
and linked to the murder scene.
287
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The murder weapon was fired
at both locations.
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My opinion is
that target practice was done
289
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with the murder weapon
at the farm
290
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in preparation
for committing the murder.
291
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And they used fire
292
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to obscure any evidence
of target practice.
293
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So at this point,
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law enforcement was
focusing on Greg,
295
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and they spoke to an individual
who said
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that he saw Greg
on the farm target practicing.
297
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On August 2nd,
298
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the day that there's gunfire
at the Herron farm.
299
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Right.
300
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And they matched
301
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bullets found
at the Herron farm...
302
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- Mm-hmm.
- To the crime scene?
303
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Yes.
304
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That looks really bad
for Greg.
305
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[dramatic music]
306
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Up until this point,
307
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there was no firearm
recovered in the case.
308
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There--they had
no real suspects,
309
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although they were
looking at Greg.
310
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September 17th, not too far
from the crime scene,
311
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a-a weapon was recovered
in a ditch.
312
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The weapon was
a TEC-9 9-millimeter,
313
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but now with a flashlight
taped to it.
314
00:15:12,014 --> 00:15:14,672
It is outfitted
for tactical environment,
315
00:15:14,672 --> 00:15:16,467
nighttime operations.
316
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It's not a farm gun.
317
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- No.
- You know what I mean?
318
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It's like a gun that's
only meant to kill people.
319
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It's more like--right.
320
00:15:24,785 --> 00:15:25,994
It's, like,
an automatic weapon.
321
00:15:26,097 --> 00:15:27,857
Right. An assault weapon.
322
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The weapon was sent
to the lab.
323
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Each weapon will leave
unique marks.
324
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Bullets that were fired
at the farm
325
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and fired at the house
when the murder occurred
326
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all were fired
through that weapon.
327
00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:45,323
Keith Herbstreith,
328
00:15:45,323 --> 00:15:47,084
the manager
of the trailer park
329
00:15:47,187 --> 00:15:48,188
and Greg's friend,
330
00:15:48,188 --> 00:15:49,879
was brought in
for questioning.
331
00:15:49,879 --> 00:15:51,640
They showed him
a picture of the gun
332
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and the rope
that was on the gun.
333
00:15:53,849 --> 00:15:56,852
But when investigators
show Keith this,
334
00:15:56,852 --> 00:16:01,063
what does Keith
tell investigators?
335
00:16:01,167 --> 00:16:03,065
Keith said
that he recognized
336
00:16:03,065 --> 00:16:04,998
the green cord on the gun,
337
00:16:04,998 --> 00:16:07,932
that this was the same cord
that he and Greg had used
338
00:16:07,932 --> 00:16:12,040
to tie firecrackers up with
on the 4th of July.
339
00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,524
From the photos,
340
00:16:13,524 --> 00:16:16,044
it looked like there were
black smudges on the cord.
341
00:16:16,044 --> 00:16:18,805
And so Keith thought
that the cord on the gun
342
00:16:18,908 --> 00:16:20,772
or the cord that they tied
the firecrackers,
343
00:16:20,772 --> 00:16:22,429
that they were
one and the same.
344
00:16:22,429 --> 00:16:26,226
So Keith says,
345
00:16:26,226 --> 00:16:29,471
"That cord belonged to Greg.
346
00:16:29,574 --> 00:16:32,232
Those black smudges are
'cause of our fireworks."
347
00:16:32,232 --> 00:16:33,544
Right.
348
00:16:33,647 --> 00:16:35,546
Seems like we've connected
him to the murder weapon.
349
00:16:35,649 --> 00:16:36,685
Right.
350
00:16:36,685 --> 00:16:37,962
From that point on,
351
00:16:37,962 --> 00:16:39,274
that's who they focused on,
352
00:16:39,377 --> 00:16:42,001
and they never looked around
to anyone else.
353
00:16:43,105 --> 00:16:46,315
Bob Krofssik was
running the investigation.
354
00:16:46,315 --> 00:16:47,627
I recall he pretty well told me
355
00:16:47,627 --> 00:16:50,285
that he knew that Greg had
killed these people.
356
00:16:52,563 --> 00:16:56,049
He took Keith and I
down at the Waffle House.
357
00:16:56,049 --> 00:16:58,189
Keith made the statement
that Greg said
358
00:16:58,293 --> 00:17:01,330
he was not gonna win the case
against the Kolesnikows
359
00:17:01,330 --> 00:17:03,815
and that he thought
he was going to
360
00:17:03,815 --> 00:17:07,060
have to do away with them.
361
00:17:07,060 --> 00:17:09,028
I couldn't believe
that Keith was
362
00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:10,650
making statements against Greg
363
00:17:10,650 --> 00:17:14,240
because I always thought they
were pretty much like brothers.
364
00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:21,316
♪ ♪
365
00:17:28,357 --> 00:17:31,498
When they arrested Greg,
366
00:17:31,498 --> 00:17:35,675
it was heartbreaking
and terrifying.
367
00:17:35,778 --> 00:17:40,473
My name is Joyce Argo.
I'm Greg Lance's mother.
368
00:17:40,473 --> 00:17:43,752
Greg was
an ambitious young man.
369
00:17:43,752 --> 00:17:47,307
He went to the National Guard,
and from there, he was able
370
00:17:47,307 --> 00:17:50,690
to get a VA loan
and buy property.
371
00:17:52,174 --> 00:17:56,351
He did very well with it.
He also became a contractor.
372
00:17:57,352 --> 00:18:01,528
Greg was in construction.
He married Becky.
373
00:18:01,528 --> 00:18:03,703
They had a daughter.
374
00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,878
He was anxious
to live his life.
375
00:18:13,506 --> 00:18:18,959
When they brought him
into the courthouse
376
00:18:18,959 --> 00:18:22,515
and his hands...
377
00:18:22,618 --> 00:18:25,138
chained,
378
00:18:25,242 --> 00:18:26,760
it become a real--
379
00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,315
it become real,
very real, fast.
380
00:18:31,282 --> 00:18:33,836
Unless you have
actually experienced it
381
00:18:33,940 --> 00:18:35,562
with your own child,
382
00:18:35,562 --> 00:18:37,875
I don't think
you can understand...
383
00:18:41,223 --> 00:18:45,124
The hurt of seeing it.
384
00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:48,782
[sobbing]
Seeing your son in chains.
385
00:18:48,782 --> 00:18:52,614
I'm sorry.
386
00:18:52,614 --> 00:18:59,655
♪ ♪
387
00:19:00,346 --> 00:19:02,037
The evidence they have
against him,
388
00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:04,177
can you walk me through that?
389
00:19:04,177 --> 00:19:05,834
When the trial began,
390
00:19:05,937 --> 00:19:07,525
the prosecution's theory
of the case
391
00:19:07,525 --> 00:19:11,046
is that Greg killed
the Kolesnikows
392
00:19:11,046 --> 00:19:13,635
in order to be able
to keep the trailer park.
393
00:19:14,774 --> 00:19:17,156
Keith testified against Greg
394
00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:20,297
that Greg is upset
over the foreclosure
395
00:19:20,297 --> 00:19:23,265
and that Greg talked to him
about hiring a hitman
396
00:19:23,265 --> 00:19:25,785
to take care
of the Kolesnikows.
397
00:19:28,201 --> 00:19:31,308
So Keith rolls on Greg.
398
00:19:31,308 --> 00:19:36,105
The next person
that talks about Greg is who?
399
00:19:36,105 --> 00:19:38,004
- Rocky Harmon.
- Okay, and--
400
00:19:38,004 --> 00:19:39,316
Greg's lifelong friend.
401
00:19:39,316 --> 00:19:40,731
That's a tough blow.
402
00:19:40,834 --> 00:19:43,458
That's a tough blow.
403
00:19:43,561 --> 00:19:47,600
He said, Greg--and he talked
about Rocky hiring a hitman.
404
00:19:49,671 --> 00:19:52,674
- They also talked to...
- Mike Snow.
405
00:19:52,674 --> 00:19:57,092
Mike Snow testified
that Greg tried to get him
406
00:19:57,092 --> 00:19:59,336
to hire someone
to kill the Kolesnikows.
407
00:20:01,407 --> 00:20:04,203
He said, that when Mike told him
that it would take $10,000,
408
00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:07,482
Greg said,
"I'm not paying $10,000."
409
00:20:09,518 --> 00:20:12,763
- And then who do we have?
- Erik Tanner.
410
00:20:12,866 --> 00:20:15,559
Erik's testimony was
that Greg talked to him about
411
00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:19,114
getting a gun,
an untraceable gun.
412
00:20:19,114 --> 00:20:20,909
Okay. That looks bad.
413
00:20:20,909 --> 00:20:22,221
It looks bad.
414
00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:24,188
The evidence they have
against him
415
00:20:24,292 --> 00:20:26,190
is the testimony of...
416
00:20:26,190 --> 00:20:28,537
- The four individuals.
- Yeah.
417
00:20:28,641 --> 00:20:31,299
A connection to a nylon cord.
418
00:20:32,472 --> 00:20:34,612
Shooting practice
at the Herron farm.
419
00:20:34,612 --> 00:20:37,650
Mm-hmm.
It's very circumstantial.
420
00:20:37,650 --> 00:20:43,000
The closing argument
of the prosecutor, he said,
421
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,797
"When you have
one coincidence, okay.
422
00:20:46,900 --> 00:20:48,419
"When you've got two,
423
00:20:48,523 --> 00:20:50,249
"mm, it starts to get
a little strange.
424
00:20:50,249 --> 00:20:52,389
"When you've got three
and four,
425
00:20:52,389 --> 00:20:55,012
that's when they're
no longer coincidences."
426
00:20:55,012 --> 00:20:56,600
Mm-hmm.
427
00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,811
♪ ♪
428
00:21:02,330 --> 00:21:05,022
[dramatic music]
429
00:21:05,022 --> 00:21:07,162
♪ ♪
430
00:21:07,162 --> 00:21:10,027
When the trial was over
431
00:21:10,130 --> 00:21:12,961
and the jury was
called back in...
432
00:21:15,032 --> 00:21:18,932
I couldn't believe my ears when
they said that he was guilty.
433
00:21:20,762 --> 00:21:25,387
It was like the breath
was just smashed out of me.
434
00:21:28,148 --> 00:21:32,498
Greg is sentenced
to two life sentences.
435
00:21:38,711 --> 00:21:42,887
♪ ♪
436
00:21:42,887 --> 00:21:45,925
Right now, we are meeting up
with Greg Lance's mom,
437
00:21:46,028 --> 00:21:48,824
Joyce, who has been
his, like, biggest advocate.
438
00:21:48,824 --> 00:21:51,689
So I'm really eager to hear
what she has to say.
439
00:21:51,793 --> 00:21:53,208
Hi.
440
00:21:53,208 --> 00:21:55,555
Hey.
I want you to see this first.
441
00:21:55,555 --> 00:21:57,246
Our beautiful courthouse,
town square.
442
00:21:57,246 --> 00:21:58,558
It is beautiful.
443
00:21:58,662 --> 00:22:01,181
I love the words up there.
In God we trust.
444
00:22:01,181 --> 00:22:02,976
You've got to.
445
00:22:02,976 --> 00:22:04,461
You are in a Bible Belt.
446
00:22:04,564 --> 00:22:07,705
I am in the--I grew up in it.
I grew up in the church.
447
00:22:10,121 --> 00:22:12,917
Right now,
you're taking me where?
448
00:22:12,917 --> 00:22:14,678
To the Herron farm.
449
00:22:14,678 --> 00:22:20,131
♪ ♪
450
00:22:20,131 --> 00:22:24,308
This is where they, uh, said
Greg was
451
00:22:24,308 --> 00:22:26,103
when there was
shooting going on.
452
00:22:29,313 --> 00:22:31,764
Give it some gas
and let's get on up that hill.
453
00:22:31,764 --> 00:22:34,767
Whoo!
- [laughs]
454
00:22:34,767 --> 00:22:38,391
They found shell casings
on the property here
455
00:22:38,391 --> 00:22:41,360
that seemingly matched
the murder weapon.
456
00:22:43,465 --> 00:22:46,330
How do we know
there was shooting here?
457
00:22:46,434 --> 00:22:50,783
The neighbor said
that they heard shooting here.
458
00:22:52,301 --> 00:22:53,510
So they made that phone call
459
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:55,374
at, like,
2:30 in the afternoon?
460
00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:57,099
Yes, yes, yes.
461
00:22:57,099 --> 00:23:00,413
A witness said that he saw
Greg between 3:00 and 4:00,
462
00:23:00,517 --> 00:23:01,794
but that was hours
463
00:23:01,794 --> 00:23:03,485
after the neighbor said
the shooting stopped,
464
00:23:03,485 --> 00:23:05,591
and police had
already cleared the scene.
465
00:23:05,591 --> 00:23:08,939
That weekend, if they are
saying that Greg was here,
466
00:23:08,939 --> 00:23:14,254
he was actually in a guard duty
in Gordonsville.
467
00:23:14,254 --> 00:23:15,980
Now, his records
can show that that.
468
00:23:15,980 --> 00:23:18,155
- Oh.
- That he was there.
469
00:23:18,155 --> 00:23:19,432
His Sergeant
and other officers
470
00:23:19,536 --> 00:23:21,054
confirmed he was there,
though, right?
471
00:23:21,158 --> 00:23:22,953
Yes, yes.
472
00:23:23,056 --> 00:23:25,369
Then when he got home,
473
00:23:25,369 --> 00:23:29,580
Keith and his girlfriend
at that time, Kay,
474
00:23:29,580 --> 00:23:31,651
they can both tell you
that Greg was
475
00:23:31,651 --> 00:23:34,861
at the trailer park
that afternoon.
476
00:23:34,861 --> 00:23:37,243
So he had
a proven alibi elsewhere.
477
00:23:37,346 --> 00:23:38,278
Right.
478
00:23:38,278 --> 00:23:39,521
I know for a fact
479
00:23:39,521 --> 00:23:41,627
that Greg Lance
could not have been
480
00:23:41,627 --> 00:23:45,527
at the Herron farm around 2:30
on that day shooting
481
00:23:45,631 --> 00:23:49,704
because I got home
from work about 2:30,
482
00:23:49,704 --> 00:23:50,946
and he was not there shooting.
483
00:23:50,946 --> 00:23:53,777
He was right there at the house
talking to Keith.
484
00:23:57,159 --> 00:23:59,783
When I first looked at this,
what intrigued me was
485
00:23:59,783 --> 00:24:01,578
that the puzzle pieces
didn't fit.
486
00:24:01,681 --> 00:24:05,547
There were just too many things
487
00:24:05,651 --> 00:24:07,135
that were unanswered.
488
00:24:07,238 --> 00:24:10,241
So when Joyce asked me if
I would help with Greg's case,
489
00:24:10,241 --> 00:24:15,005
I could not let her just try
to get through this on her own.
490
00:24:16,731 --> 00:24:20,182
We wanted her help
because we did not understand
491
00:24:20,182 --> 00:24:23,220
the legal jargon
492
00:24:23,323 --> 00:24:26,534
in order to get a new trial.
493
00:24:27,776 --> 00:24:29,537
We talked to witnesses.
494
00:24:29,537 --> 00:24:31,780
We really started
to take a deep dive
495
00:24:31,884 --> 00:24:34,887
into what went on here
in Putnam County.
496
00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:42,998
We have found out that
lots of witnesses against Greg
497
00:24:42,998 --> 00:24:48,003
were either offered a deal
to get out of criminal charges
498
00:24:48,003 --> 00:24:50,281
or in some way threatened.
499
00:24:52,421 --> 00:24:56,771
Greg had made the mistake
of hiring people
500
00:24:56,771 --> 00:24:59,739
that had a past, had records.
501
00:25:01,258 --> 00:25:05,089
Greg would hire people
that needed help with money
502
00:25:05,193 --> 00:25:06,401
because he was the type
503
00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:09,508
that would give the shirt
off of his back.
504
00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:11,751
He moved Keith into his home
505
00:25:11,751 --> 00:25:14,478
because Keith was
living in his car
506
00:25:14,582 --> 00:25:16,929
eating out of trash cans
when he met Greg.
507
00:25:18,724 --> 00:25:23,349
So when investigators
started questioning
508
00:25:23,452 --> 00:25:25,972
and putting pressure
on these people,
509
00:25:26,076 --> 00:25:27,767
then they started saying,
510
00:25:27,767 --> 00:25:29,562
"Well, Greg may have
done this,"
511
00:25:29,562 --> 00:25:31,530
or "Greg might have
done that."
512
00:25:33,566 --> 00:25:35,257
Can you talk to us
a little bit
513
00:25:35,257 --> 00:25:36,327
about the kind of people
514
00:25:36,431 --> 00:25:38,744
that Greg had
surrounded himself with?
515
00:25:38,744 --> 00:25:41,954
Yeah, a number of the folks
had certain vulnerabilities
516
00:25:41,954 --> 00:25:45,647
that made them easy to lean
on them and threaten them.
517
00:25:46,510 --> 00:25:48,754
Rocky Harmon,
soon as he testified,
518
00:25:48,857 --> 00:25:50,721
wrote Greg a number of letters saying,
519
00:25:50,825 --> 00:25:53,482
"I'm so sorry I did that.
520
00:25:53,586 --> 00:25:55,761
They were pressuring me.
I was scared."
521
00:25:55,761 --> 00:25:58,108
But then Rocky since,
sadly, is deceased,
522
00:25:58,108 --> 00:25:59,868
but I spoke to his brother,
and his brother was like,
523
00:25:59,868 --> 00:26:01,698
"He was terrified
'cause the police
524
00:26:01,698 --> 00:26:05,149
barged into his house
and threatened him."
525
00:26:05,253 --> 00:26:06,944
Then you had Mike Snow.
526
00:26:06,944 --> 00:26:08,877
He was incarcerated
at the time
527
00:26:08,877 --> 00:26:10,707
police took a statement
from him,
528
00:26:10,707 --> 00:26:12,156
and then they immediately
released him
529
00:26:12,156 --> 00:26:14,642
once he gave his statement.
530
00:26:14,642 --> 00:26:17,576
Keith was
kind of a weak person.
531
00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:19,578
Bob Krofssik, the TBI agent,
532
00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:22,891
and Keith were doing
a whole lot of talking.
533
00:26:22,891 --> 00:26:26,239
Keith would say things
that he wanted to hear
534
00:26:26,343 --> 00:26:29,208
because they were telling him
he was a suspect.
535
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,593
Interviewing witnesses
is a tricky affair.
536
00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:36,802
You don't put words
in the person's mouth.
537
00:26:36,905 --> 00:26:40,564
They have to tell you
their own recollection.
538
00:26:40,668 --> 00:26:43,705
And I know that every one
of the investigators
539
00:26:43,809 --> 00:26:46,225
who investigated this
were men of integrity.
540
00:26:48,020 --> 00:26:49,746
I don't think
that Keith believed
541
00:26:49,746 --> 00:26:51,886
Greg had killed anybody.
542
00:26:52,956 --> 00:26:54,820
They had this piece of rope,
543
00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:57,892
and they made Keith believe
it was the rope
544
00:26:57,995 --> 00:27:02,759
that he used to hang in a tree
to put firecrackers on.
545
00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:04,830
He believed the rope
wrapped around the gun
546
00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:07,418
was the rope
that he had hung in the tree.
547
00:27:09,075 --> 00:27:11,906
Six years after Greg
is convicted,
548
00:27:11,906 --> 00:27:13,839
Keith attempts to prove
to himself
549
00:27:13,942 --> 00:27:16,911
that the cord that was found
on the murder weapon
550
00:27:17,014 --> 00:27:18,291
is the same cord
551
00:27:18,395 --> 00:27:22,054
that he and Greg had used
to tie up fireworks.
552
00:27:23,227 --> 00:27:26,265
This reenactment
was entirely my idea.
553
00:27:26,368 --> 00:27:29,440
I went out and bought
these firecrackers myself.
554
00:27:29,544 --> 00:27:31,857
I found the exact string...
555
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,790
- Just a different color.
- Just a different color.
556
00:27:33,790 --> 00:27:37,552
[firecrackers popping]
557
00:27:37,552 --> 00:27:39,554
Keith talked
about how he did
558
00:27:39,554 --> 00:27:41,487
a bunch of different tests
on it.
559
00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:43,178
Ooh, buddy.
560
00:27:43,178 --> 00:27:46,734
Strung it up in the tree
and lit the firecrackers off.
561
00:27:46,734 --> 00:27:50,496
Doesn't look anything
like the burn mark
562
00:27:50,496 --> 00:27:54,776
that was on the rope
of the gun.
563
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,436
The rope that was at the trial
was just covered
564
00:27:59,539 --> 00:28:01,231
in those little tiny burns.
565
00:28:02,819 --> 00:28:06,374
My firecrackers did not
put those black marks on them.
566
00:28:06,374 --> 00:28:09,964
I don't want to be guilty of
perjury, but I was incorrect.
567
00:28:11,482 --> 00:28:13,899
That ain't it.
568
00:28:14,002 --> 00:28:15,694
Wasn't my--wasn't my string.
569
00:28:17,247 --> 00:28:20,181
Finding out that it
couldn't be his cord
570
00:28:20,284 --> 00:28:24,219
that was wrapped around the gun
devastated him.
571
00:28:24,219 --> 00:28:27,982
It didn't have burn marks,
so I did him wrong.
572
00:28:32,193 --> 00:28:35,714
[soft country music]
573
00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:38,786
Greg had surrounded himself
with people
574
00:28:38,786 --> 00:28:41,478
who had complicated pasts.
575
00:28:41,478 --> 00:28:42,928
He believed in people.
576
00:28:42,928 --> 00:28:46,034
♪ ♪
577
00:28:46,138 --> 00:28:48,934
And one by one,
they all rolled on him
578
00:28:48,934 --> 00:28:51,971
and then apologized
or change their stories.
579
00:28:53,835 --> 00:28:56,251
But, you know, in court,
you can't do that.
580
00:28:56,251 --> 00:28:58,702
It's not like in church
where you can apologize
581
00:28:58,806 --> 00:29:02,430
and then it's over.
582
00:29:02,430 --> 00:29:05,571
You mess up
in the court system,
583
00:29:05,674 --> 00:29:08,885
and someone goes to prison
for your mistake.
584
00:29:11,922 --> 00:29:13,855
You can't fix it.
585
00:29:15,546 --> 00:29:19,758
The impact of this reaches
so far beyond just Greg.
586
00:29:19,861 --> 00:29:21,760
And so we're gonna go
hang out with Joyce again
587
00:29:21,863 --> 00:29:25,246
at her house and meet
Greg's daughter, Rebecca.
588
00:29:26,834 --> 00:29:29,319
So how often do you guys
get to talk to Greg?
589
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:30,527
Whenever he calls.
590
00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:32,425
He's been calling
almost every day
591
00:29:32,425 --> 00:29:34,324
for the past two
or three weeks.
592
00:29:34,427 --> 00:29:36,913
[phone rings]
593
00:29:42,539 --> 00:29:44,334
Hi, Daddy.
594
00:29:46,163 --> 00:29:47,993
I'm doing good.
How are you?
595
00:29:51,065 --> 00:29:53,205
I love you, Daddy. Mwah.
596
00:29:54,723 --> 00:29:55,897
There's someone here
597
00:29:55,897 --> 00:29:57,761
who would really like
to speak with you.
598
00:29:57,761 --> 00:29:59,590
Hi, Greg. This is Hilarie.
599
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,182
I have been digging
into your situation.
600
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:08,392
The state's case
is that, yeah,
601
00:30:08,392 --> 00:30:10,912
you were getting foreclosed on
and you were furious,
602
00:30:10,912 --> 00:30:14,951
and--and so you murdered them
and set the house on fire.
603
00:30:20,094 --> 00:30:21,958
Have you interacted
with anybody else
604
00:30:22,061 --> 00:30:25,340
who had knowledge of the crime
while you've been there?
605
00:30:31,381 --> 00:30:32,451
Mm-hmm.
606
00:30:36,213 --> 00:30:38,112
Yeah.
607
00:30:50,296 --> 00:30:52,264
Who is Sam Horn?
608
00:30:59,616 --> 00:31:00,824
Just like Greg,
609
00:31:00,824 --> 00:31:04,069
Sam and Peggy Horn
owed money to Victor.
610
00:31:05,173 --> 00:31:10,282
They also had purchased
their property from Victor
611
00:31:10,282 --> 00:31:14,010
on owner financing.
612
00:31:14,010 --> 00:31:16,771
They were way behind
on their payments.
613
00:31:16,771 --> 00:31:21,155
So they were next in line
to be foreclosed on.
614
00:31:22,156 --> 00:31:24,020
So Billy seemed
fairly convinced
615
00:31:24,020 --> 00:31:26,263
that Sam Horn was the killer?
616
00:31:28,403 --> 00:31:29,404
Mm-hmm.
617
00:31:29,404 --> 00:31:31,890
And is that when you were
awaiting trial?
618
00:31:33,477 --> 00:31:37,240
Was he ever called in during
the trial to testify to that?
619
00:31:44,868 --> 00:31:46,214
[sighs]
620
00:31:46,214 --> 00:31:49,769
The judge ruled
that there was nothing
621
00:31:49,769 --> 00:31:52,324
to substantiate
Billy's testimony,
622
00:31:52,324 --> 00:31:55,879
and therefore, he did not
allow the jury to hear it.
623
00:31:55,983 --> 00:31:58,330
Here we have Billy Cleghorn
telling us
624
00:31:58,330 --> 00:32:01,712
that Sam Horn killed
Victor and Alla.
625
00:32:01,816 --> 00:32:04,025
How do you get that
before the court
626
00:32:04,025 --> 00:32:06,925
for them to hear?
627
00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:08,236
Through her investigation,
628
00:32:08,236 --> 00:32:11,999
Joyce found some people
who knew the Horns.
629
00:32:12,102 --> 00:32:14,691
Sam and Peggy Horn were
said to be
630
00:32:14,794 --> 00:32:19,040
the local meth dealers
in Putnam County.
631
00:32:19,144 --> 00:32:21,905
Victor had threatened Sam
and told him
632
00:32:22,009 --> 00:32:24,528
that "If you don't
catch the payments up
633
00:32:24,632 --> 00:32:25,805
"on the mortgage,
634
00:32:25,805 --> 00:32:27,359
"I'm going to call
law enforcement
635
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,224
and advise them that you're
cooking meth over here."
636
00:32:31,052 --> 00:32:33,917
[dramatic music]
637
00:32:34,021 --> 00:32:36,437
♪ ♪
638
00:32:36,437 --> 00:32:37,990
The late '90s,
639
00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:42,961
the influx of methamphetamines
in our area was huge.
640
00:32:44,583 --> 00:32:46,619
Because it was just cheap
and easy money.
641
00:32:48,173 --> 00:32:49,622
Uh, it was, like,
the new drug,
642
00:32:49,726 --> 00:32:53,592
and a lot of people
weren't educated about it.
643
00:32:55,007 --> 00:32:57,492
It's all taken its toll
on the community.
644
00:33:00,288 --> 00:33:03,740
The Horns ran a meth lab
in their kitchen,
645
00:33:03,843 --> 00:33:05,811
and they were known
in Cookeville
646
00:33:05,914 --> 00:33:07,433
as the murder clan,
647
00:33:07,433 --> 00:33:08,987
Which should
tell you something.
648
00:33:09,090 --> 00:33:10,816
- Wow.
- Yeah.
649
00:33:10,919 --> 00:33:15,683
♪ ♪
650
00:33:15,683 --> 00:33:18,341
We spoke to multiple
witnesses who all knew
651
00:33:18,444 --> 00:33:20,584
Sam and Peggy Horn
pretty well,
652
00:33:20,584 --> 00:33:24,105
and they told us that
Sam and Peggy were over there
653
00:33:24,105 --> 00:33:26,832
at the Kolesnikows' house
the night it happened.
654
00:33:26,935 --> 00:33:28,247
That's nuts.
655
00:33:30,111 --> 00:33:31,630
Joyce hires an investigator,
656
00:33:31,630 --> 00:33:34,598
and they've collected
statements from multiple people
657
00:33:34,702 --> 00:33:36,704
who knew the Horns.
658
00:33:36,807 --> 00:33:39,879
On November 26, 1999,
659
00:33:39,879 --> 00:33:42,020
Paula Lacommare
gave a statement
660
00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:45,782
that she heard Sam Horn
made the statement
661
00:33:45,782 --> 00:33:48,267
he was going to kill
the foreigners.
662
00:33:49,303 --> 00:33:53,100
Jackie Cleghorn gave
a statement that Sam said,
663
00:33:53,203 --> 00:33:55,136
that the best way
to kill someone
664
00:33:55,136 --> 00:33:57,173
is to tape a flashlight
to a gun,
665
00:33:57,173 --> 00:33:59,692
and they cannot see you
when you shoot them.
666
00:34:00,831 --> 00:34:03,179
Billy said that Samantha Horn,
667
00:34:03,179 --> 00:34:05,250
who is the daughter
of Sam and Peggy Horn,
668
00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:07,838
saw her parents
on the night of the murders,
669
00:34:07,942 --> 00:34:11,566
and they came back
from across the street
670
00:34:11,670 --> 00:34:14,535
and that they both
smelled of gasoline.
671
00:34:17,538 --> 00:34:20,368
On June 14, 2006,
672
00:34:20,368 --> 00:34:22,163
Paula Lacommare gave
a statement,
673
00:34:22,163 --> 00:34:26,029
"Samantha stated that her mom
went over to the residence
674
00:34:26,029 --> 00:34:28,825
and killed those people."
675
00:34:28,825 --> 00:34:33,554
Billy Cleghorn heard Peggy say
she left her blouse over there,
676
00:34:33,657 --> 00:34:35,073
and she was afraid
law enforcement
677
00:34:35,176 --> 00:34:37,454
was gonna be able
to tie it back to her.
678
00:34:40,147 --> 00:34:42,321
Chris Henry was
a friend of Sam's.
679
00:34:43,598 --> 00:34:46,394
Asked if he had ever shot
a TEC-9,
680
00:34:46,498 --> 00:34:49,087
Chris Henry's response
at that time was,
681
00:34:49,087 --> 00:34:53,884
"Not only have I shot a TEC-9,
I shot Sam's TEC-9."
682
00:34:55,265 --> 00:34:58,717
I have spoken
to quite a few people
683
00:34:58,717 --> 00:35:01,616
in Sam and Peggy Horn's circle,
684
00:35:01,616 --> 00:35:05,620
and they've all pretty much
told me the same story.
685
00:35:06,345 --> 00:35:08,244
The real killer
is still out there.
686
00:35:14,181 --> 00:35:16,873
[soft bluegrass music]
687
00:35:16,873 --> 00:35:23,086
♪ ♪
688
00:35:23,086 --> 00:35:24,605
This is gorgeous.
689
00:35:24,708 --> 00:35:26,227
It is beautiful.
690
00:35:26,331 --> 00:35:29,092
So do you want to show me
the Kolesnikow property first?
691
00:35:29,092 --> 00:35:30,680
Sure. I'd love to.
692
00:35:34,028 --> 00:35:36,996
That's where the house was.
693
00:35:36,996 --> 00:35:38,584
So directly in front of us,
694
00:35:38,584 --> 00:35:41,311
we have what was
the Kolesnikow property,
695
00:35:41,311 --> 00:35:44,901
which went up in flames
3:00 in the morning.
696
00:35:44,901 --> 00:35:47,214
Right here
where we're seeing it from
697
00:35:47,317 --> 00:35:50,182
is the driveway
to the Horn house,
698
00:35:50,286 --> 00:35:53,979
which sat
right past those bushes.
699
00:35:54,082 --> 00:35:57,016
This is so, so close.
700
00:35:57,016 --> 00:35:58,570
Yes.
701
00:35:58,570 --> 00:36:00,192
They're coming outside.
[chuckles]
702
00:36:00,192 --> 00:36:03,022
I'm Hilarie. How are you?
- Good.
703
00:36:03,126 --> 00:36:04,196
When I spoke with you before,
704
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:07,095
you were telling me
about the Horns...
705
00:36:07,095 --> 00:36:09,167
- Yeah.
- Making meth out there.
706
00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:11,445
Were they still here
when you guys moved in?
707
00:36:13,447 --> 00:36:15,932
Did you take over ownership
of that property?
708
00:36:18,762 --> 00:36:21,662
You were?
So were they on your radar?
709
00:36:22,801 --> 00:36:26,770
And was it commonly known
that they were
710
00:36:26,874 --> 00:36:29,187
involved in the business?
711
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:33,260
Uh-huh.
712
00:36:33,260 --> 00:36:36,194
So you think perhaps they were
making meth in your barn?
713
00:36:42,372 --> 00:36:45,479
Did you ever hear about
any involvement on their end
714
00:36:45,582 --> 00:36:48,206
with what happened here
at the Kolesnikows?
715
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,214
Yeah.
716
00:37:00,632 --> 00:37:01,874
Yeah.
717
00:37:03,082 --> 00:37:06,534
So the Horns were
on police radar.
718
00:37:06,534 --> 00:37:08,778
They were well-known
to law enforcement.
719
00:37:09,951 --> 00:37:12,333
I don't understand
720
00:37:12,333 --> 00:37:14,680
why the path
of least resistance
721
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,337
wasn't explored.
722
00:37:16,337 --> 00:37:19,444
They just tunnel-visioned in
on Greg.
723
00:37:19,547 --> 00:37:22,447
You know, it's just amazing
how difficult it is
724
00:37:22,447 --> 00:37:25,864
to get a wrong made right.
725
00:37:25,864 --> 00:37:27,141
[dramatic music]
726
00:37:27,141 --> 00:37:28,315
I'm Jessica Van Dyke.
727
00:37:28,418 --> 00:37:30,144
I'm executive director
and lead counsel
728
00:37:30,144 --> 00:37:33,147
at the Tennessee
Innocence Project.
729
00:37:33,147 --> 00:37:34,873
We became involved
in Greg's case.
730
00:37:34,976 --> 00:37:38,152
We felt like we could
move the case forward.
731
00:37:38,152 --> 00:37:40,396
In Tennessee, the only
remaining options to him
732
00:37:40,499 --> 00:37:42,915
would be a DNA testing petition
733
00:37:42,915 --> 00:37:45,884
or a fingerprint
testing petition.
734
00:37:45,987 --> 00:37:47,472
We were pretty much
at the end of the line
735
00:37:47,472 --> 00:37:50,371
unless we discovered
some new evidence.
736
00:37:50,475 --> 00:37:52,477
I got very aggressive
737
00:37:52,477 --> 00:37:55,687
in sending out Freedom
of Information Act letters.
738
00:37:58,655 --> 00:38:01,831
And so in 2015,
I got the records from
739
00:38:01,831 --> 00:38:06,214
the bomb and arson division
in Nashville.
740
00:38:06,318 --> 00:38:10,771
And lo and behold, inside
of that packet of records
741
00:38:10,771 --> 00:38:12,428
was a receipt for a shirt
742
00:38:12,428 --> 00:38:14,533
that was found
on a picnic table
743
00:38:14,533 --> 00:38:17,674
at the Kolesnikows' home
by their son.
744
00:38:19,366 --> 00:38:21,816
I'm pretty certain that
this shirt was the shirt
745
00:38:21,816 --> 00:38:24,957
that Peggy left over there
at the scene.
746
00:38:25,061 --> 00:38:28,616
And that blouse could be
a critical piece of evidence
747
00:38:28,616 --> 00:38:30,238
in this case
748
00:38:30,238 --> 00:38:33,034
that could potentially
corroborate the testimony
749
00:38:33,034 --> 00:38:36,072
by a witness who said
one of the alternate suspects
750
00:38:36,175 --> 00:38:38,385
said they left
their blouse behind.
751
00:38:38,385 --> 00:38:40,904
And so maybe someone else
really did this.
752
00:38:41,008 --> 00:38:47,842
♪ ♪
753
00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:51,812
So if we are able to test
this evidence,
754
00:38:51,915 --> 00:38:55,056
and if it does support
Greg's claim of innocence,
755
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,368
then we would be
asking the court
756
00:38:56,368 --> 00:38:57,921
to vacate his conviction,
757
00:38:57,921 --> 00:38:59,820
and the state would then have
the option
758
00:38:59,820 --> 00:39:02,443
to either go forward
with a new trial
759
00:39:02,443 --> 00:39:05,204
or, alternatively,
they could dismiss the charges
760
00:39:05,204 --> 00:39:06,999
and he would go free.
761
00:39:08,725 --> 00:39:11,003
Greg's new legal team
is working very hard
762
00:39:11,003 --> 00:39:12,211
to clear his name,
763
00:39:12,211 --> 00:39:14,179
but in cases like his
764
00:39:14,179 --> 00:39:17,216
where there is
already a conviction,
765
00:39:17,216 --> 00:39:19,460
it's an uphill battle.
766
00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:22,325
I found a circuit court judge
here in Cookeville
767
00:39:22,429 --> 00:39:24,431
who was willing
to talk to me about that.
768
00:39:24,431 --> 00:39:26,053
Hi. How are you?
769
00:39:26,053 --> 00:39:28,193
Good. Good. Come on in.
770
00:39:28,296 --> 00:39:31,783
It seems impossible
771
00:39:31,783 --> 00:39:34,993
to overturn
a wrongful conviction.
772
00:39:35,096 --> 00:39:36,512
It is--it is really hard
773
00:39:36,512 --> 00:39:39,480
because there's
such a presumption
774
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,552
that the, uh, jury
got it right.
775
00:39:42,552 --> 00:39:46,211
Many times, there were
wrongful convictions,
776
00:39:46,211 --> 00:39:47,592
you know,
especially where you have
777
00:39:47,695 --> 00:39:49,076
a high minority population.
778
00:39:49,179 --> 00:39:52,044
Um, we don't really have that
in the Upper Cumberland.
779
00:39:52,044 --> 00:39:55,358
I would stack our jurors up
against anybody in the country.
780
00:39:55,358 --> 00:39:57,187
There's been
some really tough decisions
781
00:39:57,187 --> 00:39:58,637
that the jurors have made,
782
00:39:58,741 --> 00:40:01,191
and I think they've
got it right every time.
783
00:40:04,712 --> 00:40:07,819
As we've dug deeper
into this case,
784
00:40:07,819 --> 00:40:10,649
you have all these
pods of people,
785
00:40:10,649 --> 00:40:15,205
and they all clash
in this story.
786
00:40:16,034 --> 00:40:19,520
You've got the Kolesnikows
and the Horns
787
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,212
and all the members
of the trailer park.
788
00:40:22,212 --> 00:40:27,770
And the collision of those
separate groups is tragic.
789
00:40:30,738 --> 00:40:33,051
These murders
changed my life
790
00:40:33,154 --> 00:40:36,295
and Becky's life and Keith
791
00:40:36,295 --> 00:40:38,090
and definitely Greg's.
792
00:40:40,299 --> 00:40:42,474
Cookeville was
a really small town.
793
00:40:42,474 --> 00:40:45,443
When I would go
anywhere near anyone,
794
00:40:45,546 --> 00:40:47,341
they were looking at me
like they thought
795
00:40:47,341 --> 00:40:49,585
I was involved in it.
796
00:40:49,585 --> 00:40:51,725
It was really hard.
797
00:40:51,725 --> 00:40:54,244
I mean,
I lost custody of my kids.
798
00:40:54,348 --> 00:40:56,833
Yeah, it was more
than I could handle.
799
00:40:59,491 --> 00:41:02,011
Keith testified
against somebody
800
00:41:02,011 --> 00:41:03,633
that he cared a lot about
801
00:41:03,633 --> 00:41:07,050
and believed
that something happened
802
00:41:07,154 --> 00:41:08,466
that did not happen.
803
00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:12,090
And he really had a hard time
living with that,
804
00:41:12,193 --> 00:41:16,301
and he worked hard
at drinking himself to death.
805
00:41:16,404 --> 00:41:21,340
♪ ♪
806
00:41:21,340 --> 00:41:23,688
My daddy's been locked up
for 22 years,
807
00:41:23,791 --> 00:41:25,724
and I'll be 22 this August.
808
00:41:25,724 --> 00:41:29,659
Oh, honey.
That's a long time.
809
00:41:29,659 --> 00:41:32,213
I've never seen him
outside of prison.
810
00:41:32,317 --> 00:41:33,732
I want to see my daddy.
811
00:41:33,732 --> 00:41:35,907
You deserve that. You do.
812
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,497
As much as Joyce
wants answers
813
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,327
and I want answers,
Greg wanting--wants answers,
814
00:41:42,327 --> 00:41:44,432
I'm sure
the-the victim's family
815
00:41:44,536 --> 00:41:47,608
would like to have
the answers.
816
00:41:47,608 --> 00:41:50,438
There are a lot of missing
pieces to this puzzle,
817
00:41:50,438 --> 00:41:52,786
and we all have a right
to know the truth.
818
00:41:54,615 --> 00:41:57,204
I cannot
definitively say yes,
819
00:41:57,204 --> 00:41:58,930
this other person did it.
820
00:41:58,930 --> 00:42:03,693
What I can say is that until
that evidence testing happens,
821
00:42:03,693 --> 00:42:05,212
has justice really been served?
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