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Narrator:
In the criminal justice system, the people are represented
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by two separate yet
equally important groups--
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the police
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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(laughing )
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What is it?
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Ooh, that's
a globe-thistle pod,
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from a globe-thistle tree.
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Oh, okay.
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Getreal, | can't
just leave for lunch.
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Who says
you gotta leave?
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I'm sure you've
got a peanut butter sandwich for me.
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What do you got
good to trade?
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Dinner in Soho,
tonight?
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Okay, but | get
to keep my Twinkies.
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( chuckles )
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Hey, Tisha!
Tisha, stay away from the dog!
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- (dog barks )
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It's not a stray,
it has a collar.
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(screams )
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Are you okay?
Did he bite you, huh?
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( whimpers )
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( siren blares )
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She's real cold--
they say she's been out here for hours.
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What is it,
a rape or a mugging?
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Don't know.
She's in bad shape.
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Skull's fractured,
looks like she's been choked.
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Do they think
she's gonna make it?
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| don't Know, they could
barely find blood pressure.
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Hey, guys, move!
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- Where to?
- St. Teresa's.
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Found this...
on the path.
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Medic:
Cominâ through, cominâ through.
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Cerreta:
Has she been conscious? Has she said anything?
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She's in a coma, Detective--
that tends to prevent speech.
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Go to the park,
get your head crushed--
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makes you want to move
someplace safe.
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- Didn't know there were any left.
- Is she gonna get out of this?
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Cerebral hemorrhage,
unaligned skull fracture,
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damage to the vocal chords,
add the exposure--
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it's a miracle she's alive.
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If she survives this,
she's in for a long recovery.
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- Are you the cops who sent us the Jane Doe?
- Logan: Yep.
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Lucy Neven,
568 Central Park West.
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- You're kidding!
- No, | made it up. Why?
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Major soap star-- Delia Mason
on "World Without End.â
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My mother watches it.
She follows the stories like it happened to the neighbors.
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Tell your mom
she's in for a plot twist.
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( theme music plays )
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You believe this?
They already got her buried.
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She's not
in great shape.
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If we don't crack this quick,
we won't be either.
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Whatever's on your plate,
clean it-- this comes first.
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Well, it ain't a mugging,
âcause she still had cash with her.
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Could have been interrupted,
caught in the act.
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She's recognizable-- this woman
is ON a SOap Opera every day.
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- That's his John Lennon theory.
- It's not possible just because we hever heard of her?
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The fact of the matter is,
these people get accosted in the supermarket.
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Phil, nobodyâ's sayinâ
"no," okay? It's a possibility.
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Now what about the girl--
is she in any shape to talk to us?
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Barely breathing.
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Get what you can
without her then, okay?
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I'm on double shifts these days.
You got to take all the work you can get.
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Do you have people hanging around for her--
fans, autograph hounds?
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Five, six a year.
Ms. Neven, she keeps her address a secret.
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Hi.
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Thank you.
Thanks.
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She was
almost killed on the show.
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Do you believe in destiny,
karma, that kind of thing?
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She was mugged
in the park, not on TV.
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Does she walk her dog
on a schedule?
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10:00 every night. | give
Roxie a biscuit as they go out.
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Does Ms. Neven have
a busy social life?
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A good-lookinâ lady like that?
My aunt gets more action-- she's 60.
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They had to write her
out of the show.
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My mother thinks Lucy
is so glamorous.
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I've got it easy
being her secretary.
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She has to work
12 hours a day.
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Did she have time
to make enemies?
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She's up at 5:30,
she's at the studio by 7:00,
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she gets home, sheâs too tired
to brush her teeth.
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That's hardly time for friends,
let alone enemies.
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Could you tell us if anything
she'd have with her is missing?
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A ring--
her grandmother's wedding band,
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and a medal--
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her father gave it to her,
Saint Genesius.
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Saint Genesius,
that's...
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The patron saint
of actors.
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But why take that?
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They didn't take the money--
that's crazy.
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Do you get requests
from people who ask for things like that?
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| sort them.
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Weird, weirder, weirdest.
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These are just
the past three months.
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"| cannot live with the idea
that you are angry with me.
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| Know you
would love my daughter.
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| didn't like it
when you wouldn't talk to us."
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A woman broke
Lucy's skull? No.
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Pardon me, Dr. Freud,
women don't get angry
and violent?
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Whoa, | hope her mail
is more interesting than mine.
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No contest-- these should be
postmarked Bellevue.
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We have three solid
cuckoos in town,
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one in Atlanta,
two in St. Louis,
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three in LA
and one in Denver.
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They had to be local--
stalked her, knew when she walked the dog.
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Still, I'll check
the out-of-town alibis,
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you guys knock
on some doors.
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First we get some fettuccini,
then we knock on doors. Eh!
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( knocks )
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Hello?
Mr. Wadsworth?
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Man:
Who's asking?
Police.
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We are looking for nominations
for Citizen of the Week, sir.
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1am Mr. Wadsworth,
and there is not a person
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on this damn block
worth nominating.
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Yes, and you're not
the first one to say so, sir.
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| wrote her letters.
She said in an interview--
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in lots of interviews--
that she likes to get them.
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Jesse, if you could
tell us where you were at 10:00 or 11:00.
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At my girlfriendâs
apartment.
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And then | got home...
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| don't knhow. Dad?
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| got home
from the office at 9:00.
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Jesse got home--
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what, Jesse, 10:00?
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Yeah, | think so.
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Ah, Olivia, our housekeeper--
she'd remember.
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Olivia?
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Olivia,
Thursday night--
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what time
did Jesse get home?
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Around 10:30.
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| was watching the news,
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Channel 9.
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Thank you.
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The biggest soap convention of the year--
| wouldn't miss that.
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| was there Thursday morning to be there
before the good stuff got sold.
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That's dedication for ya.
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That comb--
only $60.
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Delia was using it when she told Joel
she wouldn't marry him.
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She's too good for him.
Mmm.
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All the people there, maybe
some dealers or somebody might remember you?
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| don't know.
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There were 6,000 people.
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Oh! | took the shuttle back.
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| threw out the ticket--
| think it's right here.
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Thank you.
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PA system:
Dr. Brent, report to nurse's station 4E.
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Dr. Brent, report to nurse's station 4E.
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Was he taller than you?
Or the same height?
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Logan: Taller.
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So you got
a good look at him?
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Blair:
What, he was dark, he had a dark complexion?
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Logan: Al right.
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Is this the best
you can do?
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With a woman who
can't talk,
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she's good for about
15 minutes at a stretch.
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Thanks, anyway.
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- You got the staff list
of the soap?
- Yeah.
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Maybe someone was hanging
around that door, bothering her.
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It's worth a shot.
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To me,
they all look the same.
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Autograph pads, sparkly pens
with big, white balls on top--
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they line up outside.
They can be difficult.
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Maybe Ms. Neven made
one of her fans angry?
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She was very gracious,
more than me.
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The end of the day, | want to get home--
| got a two-year-old kid.
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Did Lucy get close
to anybody on the crew?
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| guess Sara
was the closest.
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Cerreta: Was?
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Lucy had her fired.
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- Something about stuff missing.
- Man: Five minutes.
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- You mean she was stealing?
- Sara said no.
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| like her.
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But she didn't file a union grievance
when she got canned.
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Did she have
the right to file a grievance?
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Lucy was probably right.
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| got her another job--
costume house.
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They supply us,
other shows.
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| heard of Lucy
turning on people,
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but | thought
we really got along.
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Must have done wonders
for your reputation.
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- I'm happy to have a job.
- Cerreta: Why didn't you tell your union?
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| did. | did!
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You think we didn't check?
I'll put you on the phone with your shop steward.
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You know what they do
with old costumes?
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Actors take 'em home.
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A guy corners me
outside the studio,
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hands me 200-- anything of Lucy's.
Who would it hurt?
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What the hell is that?
Thou shall not steal except when nobody gets hurt?
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| needed the money.
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But then he started
wanting slips, bras--
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that stuff doesnât
belong to wardrobe.
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- That's a fine distinction.
- Who was your source of income?
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Mitchell Burkitt, down
on the Lower East Side somewhere.
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What did he do
with Lucy's underwear?
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| really didn't
want to know.
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Burkitt, Michael W.
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Criminal trespass two,
burglary three.
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What does he like?
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Soap opera studios,
movie locations.
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Also, an assault on a guard
who tried to stop him.
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The supplier gets canned,
ho more underwear to sell.
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-Aringand a medal-- bigger bucks.
- Draw some arrest papers.
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Phil, we're not even
pregnant yet.
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Assault record?
| want to be prepared.
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( rock music playing )
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The stereoâs on--
he's at home.
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Man:
Who is it?
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Con Ed,
checkinâ for a gas leak.
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- Whoa!
- Drop it! Drop it, don't even think about it, Mitch!
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Now!
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Oow!
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You are under arrest
for the attempted murder of Lucy Neven!
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Why didn't you say
you were cops?
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You have the right to remain silent.
If you choose...
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- You didn't say you were cops!
- ...anything you do say can and will...
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In my neighborhood, you wouldn't
answer the door without a gun.
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Next time, get one
that's licensed.
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| didn't do the lady.
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What do you think,
I'm crazy?
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Actually, you're
about the sanest person we've met all week.
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Why would | do her, huh?
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She's a cash cow--
| survive on her stuff.
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Not since you lost
your source.
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So, Mr. Burkitt,
where were you Thursday night?
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| was alone.
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Prove | wasn't.
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Prove you were!
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Your Lucy stuff--
who buys it?
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Kleinman,
down on 15th Street.
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- | want a lawyer.
- Yeah, you'll get a lawyer. I'll even pay for the call.
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Don't ever say
cops aren't generous.
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You want stills from "South Pacific,â
Mitzi Gaynor's shoes? Fine.
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Logan:
Not Lucy Neven's underwear?
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Do | look like
a pervert?
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Who buys Lucy's clothes?
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Customersâ names--
I'm sorry, it's private,
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Did you give Mitchell Burkitt an order
to steal Lucy Neven's jewelry?
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00:13:27,515 --> 00:13:30,59
| sell memorabilia-- you think
this is a hot car business?
240
00:13:30,226 --> 00:13:33,521
- You give me an order, | get it stolen for you?
- Suppose we get a warrant,
241
00:13:33,688 --> 00:13:36,190
Mr. Kleinman,
and we do an inventory,
242
00:13:36,357 --> 00:13:38,776
you think we're gonna find
any stolen goods around here?
243
00:13:38,943 --> 00:13:41,487
- From a soap opera studio, maybe?
- | never accept--
244
00:13:41,654 --> 00:13:43,531
Do you want us
to start checking?
245
00:13:43,698 --> 00:13:46,534
You know, you're starting
to make me a little impatient.
246
00:13:48,119 --> 00:13:50,747
Voorman.
Tim Voorman.
247
00:13:50,913 --> 00:13:53,499
Works at the Club Vivant.
248
00:13:53,666 --> 00:13:55,960
Emcee:
Ladies and gentleman, Tim Voorman.
249
00:13:56,127 --> 00:13:59,47
Mr. Yoorman--
Sergeant Cerreta, Detective Logan.
250
00:13:59,213 --> 00:14:00,715
Very impressive.
251
00:14:00,882 --> 00:14:04,302
Louis Kleinman says you ordered
Lucy Neven's intimate apparel.
252
00:14:05,970 --> 00:14:09,98
You think
| was involved with...?
253
00:14:09,265 --> 00:14:12,643
Yeah, well, | also ordered
Joan Collins's costumes.
254
00:14:12,810 --> 00:14:14,604
They help me
get into character.
255
00:14:14,771 --> 00:14:17,482
- And they fit you?
- Well, I'm very petite.
256
00:14:17,648 --> 00:14:21,319
Mr. Voorman,
Thursday night-- did you take a walk in the park?
257
00:14:21,486 --> 00:14:23,279
| don't believe this.
258
00:14:23,446 --> 00:14:26,741
| was here--
two shows, 8:00 and 10:00.
259
00:14:30,78 --> 00:14:33,122
You happen to leave
between shows?
260
00:14:33,289 --> 00:14:36,584
Do you have any idea how long
it takes to put on this face?
261
00:14:36,751 --> 00:14:39,128
And contrary
to what you might think,
262
00:14:39,295 --> 00:14:41,297
| don't go out
in public in drag.
263
00:14:41,464 --> 00:14:42,965
| do this for a living.
264
00:14:43,132 --> 00:14:45,927
Cerreta:
This isn't your act, so you can pack in the attitude.
265
00:14:46,94 --> 00:14:48,12
Do you have any withesses
who saw you here?
266
00:14:49,722 --> 00:14:52,308
What's the mystery?
267
00:14:52,475 --> 00:14:57,438
| got a guy from Jersey
who sees my Lucy act six nights a week.
268
00:14:57,605 --> 00:15:00,566
One guy, he wants to talk
with Lucy about the plot on the show.
269
00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:04,445
Another one, a real weirdo,
buys my Lucy dress.
270
00:15:04,612 --> 00:15:06,531
Who attacked her?
One of them.
271
00:15:06,697 --> 00:15:09,909
- Who bought the dress?
- Out of his mind.
272
00:15:10,76 --> 00:15:12,412
He loved Lucy,
he wanted to be with her.
273
00:15:12,578 --> 00:15:14,580
Offers 250--
| thought he was kidding.
274
00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:16,457
500-- | said no.
275
00:15:16,624 --> 00:15:19,377
1,000-- | didn't want
to sell it, but...
276
00:15:20,962 --> 00:15:22,588
he scared me a little.
277
00:15:22,755 --> 00:15:26,217
- You got the name?
- He didn't ask for a receipt.
278
00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,305
Mr. Webster?
Hi, this is Joe Harris from the Club Vivant.
279
00:15:31,472 --> 00:15:33,516
Mr. Nichols?
280
00:15:33,683 --> 00:15:35,560
Sam Jones,
the Club Vivant.
281
00:15:35,726 --> 00:15:38,563
Mr. Voorman? He'd like to buy
back that dress he sold you.
282
00:15:38,729 --> 00:15:41,732
You know the dress
you bought from Tim Voorman?
283
00:15:41,899 --> 00:15:44,110
Okay. Sorry.
284
00:15:44,277 --> 00:15:46,237
- Thank you.
- Sorry to bother you.
285
00:15:46,404 --> 00:15:49,532
We thought the letters were bad-- these people
are worse in person.
286
00:15:49,699 --> 00:15:53,202
Hello?
Jesse Unger, please.
287
00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:56,205
Could you give me his
work number then? Thank you.
288
00:15:56,372 --> 00:15:57,957
Mr. Markson? Hi.
289
00:15:58,124 --> 00:16:00,84
This is Sam Jones
from the Club Vivant.
290
00:16:00,251 --> 00:16:03,45
Mr. Unger?
Yeah, I'll wait.
291
00:16:03,212 --> 00:16:06,132
That Lucy Neven dress--
the one you bought from Tim Voorman?
292
00:16:06,299 --> 00:16:08,509
Well, he would like--
293
00:16:08,676 --> 00:16:10,845
Sorry to bother you.
294
00:16:11,12 --> 00:16:13,473
Mr. Unger? Yeah, this is
Joe Harris, Club Vivant.
295
00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:17,351
Mr. Voorman would like to buy
back his Lucy Neven dress.
296
00:16:17,518 --> 00:16:20,730
Uh-huh. Oh.
297
00:16:20,897 --> 00:16:23,441
Yeah, well, certainly.
Well, thank you.
298
00:16:25,109 --> 00:16:28,404
Mr. Unger wants
to keep his dress.
299
00:16:28,571 --> 00:16:30,114
Really?
300
00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,784
| canât stop.
This has to be done by tonight.
301
00:16:33,951 --> 00:16:37,246
- Did you buy the dress?
- Yes, | did, for my collection.
302
00:16:37,413 --> 00:16:39,540
| needed something special.
303
00:16:41,375 --> 00:16:43,544
Terrible, Lucy dying, hmm?
304
00:16:43,711 --> 00:16:45,379
Lucy didn't die, Jesse.
305
00:16:45,546 --> 00:16:48,799
No, on the show.
They had to get rid of her.
306
00:16:48,966 --> 00:16:52,303
Thursday night, at your girlfriendâs--
what time did you leave?
307
00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:55,431
| already told you--
about 10:00.
308
00:16:56,766 --> 00:16:58,726
Is your girlfriend Sandy
at home, today?
309
00:16:58,893 --> 00:17:01,354
No, she's not.
She's working.
310
00:17:02,438 --> 00:17:04,565
- You've got the wrong idea.
311
00:17:04,732 --> 00:17:08,110
Jesse, his Lucy scrapbook--
it's a hobby.
312
00:17:08,277 --> 00:17:12,31
- Logan: That include
buying her dress?
- (chuckles )
313
00:17:12,198 --> 00:17:14,33
You don't understand.
314
00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,369
Boy, you'll think
I'm crazy.
315
00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:19,664
We went to a Tina Turner
concert, Jess and me.
316
00:17:19,830 --> 00:17:23,334
| wanted her autograph.
We waited in the cold two hours.
317
00:17:23,501 --> 00:17:25,503
But an autograph
is not a dress.
318
00:17:25,670 --> 00:17:28,965
Lucy--to me, sheâs boring.
So what?
319
00:17:29,131 --> 00:17:31,384
Jesse doesn't like
Tina Turner.
320
00:17:31,551 --> 00:17:34,53
| mean, didn't you ever
collect anybody?
321
00:17:34,220 --> 00:17:36,806
My wife has a lot
of Rosemary Clooney records.
322
00:17:36,973 --> 00:17:38,57
Who?
323
00:17:38,224 --> 00:17:41,352
Ms. Reynolds, you said Mr. Unger
left at 10:00 p.m., right?
324
00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:43,813
What you're thinking
about Jesse-- it couldn't be.
325
00:17:43,980 --> 00:17:46,232
Look, are you sure
about the time?
326
00:17:46,399 --> 00:17:50,27
It might have been earlier--
maybe a quarter of.
327
00:17:50,194 --> 00:17:53,114
We had an argument.
328
00:17:53,281 --> 00:17:55,825
He wanted me
to try the dress on.
329
00:17:55,992 --> 00:17:57,910
| didn't think
it was right.
330
00:17:58,828 --> 00:18:02,331
Quarter to 10:00, 10:00--
15 minutes-- it really makes that big a difference?
331
00:18:02,498 --> 00:18:05,585
Hey, 15 minutes gives him
a lot more time to get to Lucy's.
332
00:18:05,751 --> 00:18:08,87
Sandy's on 97th Street.
333
00:18:08,254 --> 00:18:10,339
Jesse's home,
57th Street,
334
00:18:10,506 --> 00:18:12,258
30 to 45 minutes later.
335
00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:15,11
And Lucy lives
in between at 65th Street.
336
00:18:15,177 --> 00:18:17,263
All right,
it's enough time, barely,
337
00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:19,307
if he knew when
Lucy walked the dog.
338
00:18:19,473 --> 00:18:22,560
So he stopped by at Lucy's
on his way home to what, to talk to her?
339
00:18:22,727 --> 00:18:26,22
- You're the one who talked to him. He look goofy to you?
- He seemed fine.
340
00:18:26,188 --> 00:18:27,648
But who
can tell anymore?
341
00:18:27,815 --> 00:18:29,692
31 years old,
he still lives at Daddy's.
342
00:18:29,859 --> 00:18:33,321
And also he sprang
for 1,000 bucks to buy Lucy's dress.
343
00:18:33,487 --> 00:18:35,114
What about
his arrival time at home--
344
00:18:35,281 --> 00:18:37,283
how solid is that alibi?
345
00:18:42,371 --> 00:18:44,498
| have friends
in the fashion world.
346
00:18:44,665 --> 00:18:46,292
Something wrong with that?
347
00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:48,44
So you got your son
his job?
348
00:18:48,210 --> 00:18:51,88
| arranged an interview,
they offered him the job.
349
00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:54,925
The woman's dress--
that's $1,000.
350
00:18:55,92 --> 00:18:57,637
Your son can afford that
on the job he has?
351
00:18:57,803 --> 00:19:01,974
Jesse's interests--
he doesnât have to be like everybody else.
352
00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:06,228
Following an actress's
career--it's harmless.
353
00:19:06,395 --> 00:19:07,980
Up to a point.
354
00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:10,399
Mr. Unger,
when Jesse arrived home,
355
00:19:10,566 --> 00:19:13,611
your housekeeper said
it was 10:30. You said 10:00.
356
00:19:13,778 --> 00:19:16,322
My son has problems,
357
00:19:16,489 --> 00:19:19,325
Violence is
not one of them.
358
00:19:19,492 --> 00:19:22,286
Sandy was upset--
the dress.
359
00:19:22,453 --> 00:19:24,872
| only wanted to see,
if she has such a good figure,
360
00:19:25,39 --> 00:19:26,707
how'd she look
in it, that's all.
361
00:19:26,874 --> 00:19:28,793
We can clear
this thing up easy.
362
00:19:28,959 --> 00:19:31,420
You left Sandy's
apartment at 10:00?
Mm-hmm.
363
00:19:31,587 --> 00:19:33,714
- Now, how'd you get home?
- | walked.
364
00:19:33,881 --> 00:19:36,342
40 blocks
in half an hour?
365
00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:38,260
You must be
a marathon walker.
366
00:19:38,427 --> 00:19:40,513
Maybe | took a cab.
367
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,139
Ahh.
368
00:19:42,306 --> 00:19:45,59
You know what we oughta do?
We oughta all go down to the precinct,
369
00:19:45,226 --> 00:19:47,728
we'll talk the whole thing over,
we'll call the cab company,
370
00:19:47,895 --> 00:19:50,189
get the whole thing settled,
you know what | mean?
371
00:19:50,356 --> 00:19:53,734
Um... okay, fine.
Sure.
372
00:19:53,901 --> 00:19:55,236
Good.
373
00:19:55,403 --> 00:19:57,738
I'm sorry about Lucy.
374
00:19:57,905 --> 00:19:59,532
But hurting her?
375
00:19:59,699 --> 00:20:01,659
No, | loved
watching her.
376
00:20:01,826 --> 00:20:03,577
| have
a little television at work.
377
00:20:03,744 --> 00:20:07,206
We want to remind you
that you're entitled to a lawyer.
378
00:20:07,373 --> 00:20:11,460
Sandy will tell you. Olivia,
she said that | came home at 10:30.
379
00:20:11,627 --> 00:20:13,504
| would never hurt Lucy.
380
00:20:13,671 --> 00:20:15,631
Will you excuse me?
381
00:20:22,888 --> 00:20:26,100
He's in tooth fairy land,
and he's scared.
382
00:20:26,267 --> 00:20:28,811
The hospital says
Lucy has some paralysis,
383
00:20:28,978 --> 00:20:32,523
she still has trouble
with blurred vision, but they will bring her over.
384
00:20:32,690 --> 00:20:36,26
Now do you think you can
get this guy to volunteer for a line-up?
385
00:20:36,193 --> 00:20:37,903
| don't know.
What if he won't?
386
00:20:38,70 --> 00:20:39,572
Heck if | know.
387
00:20:39,739 --> 00:20:41,449
Okay.
388
00:20:46,787 --> 00:20:49,582
Jesse, would you like
to be in a line-up?
389
00:20:49,749 --> 00:20:51,792
If nobody identifies you,
you go back to work.
390
00:20:51,959 --> 00:20:54,211
A line-up? For who?
391
00:20:54,378 --> 00:20:55,629
Lucy Neven.
392
00:21:18,319 --> 00:21:20,946
Take your time.
There's no hurry.
393
00:21:30,873 --> 00:21:32,500
( Lucy gasps )
394
00:21:33,834 --> 00:21:37,379
Oh my God. That's--
that's him.
395
00:21:37,546 --> 00:21:42,09
He stopped me on the street
a couple of times.
396
00:21:42,176 --> 00:21:44,178
Which one is he, hmm?
397
00:21:44,345 --> 00:21:47,890
It's num--
number four.
398
00:21:48,57 --> 00:21:51,227
He said
that he needed me.
399
00:21:53,437 --> 00:21:55,189
Let's get
the video camera.
400
00:21:55,356 --> 00:21:57,191
One more shot at him
and he's gonna talk.
401
00:21:57,358 --> 00:21:59,568
Yeah.
402
00:21:59,735 --> 00:22:02,696
Your dad will be here soon.
You don't have to talk now.
403
00:22:02,863 --> 00:22:04,990
Was Lucy here?
404
00:22:06,283 --> 00:22:08,327
She says
she saw you that night.
405
00:22:13,499 --> 00:22:15,334
( Knocking on door )
406
00:22:22,883 --> 00:22:25,886
Had these on him
when he was booked.
407
00:22:38,899 --> 00:22:41,318
Lucy's ring, Jesse,
408
00:22:47,741 --> 00:22:49,743
Her medal.
409
00:22:54,582 --> 00:22:56,709
Where'd you get these?
410
00:22:58,127 --> 00:23:00,212
She wouldn't listen.
411
00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:03,299
| just wanted to talk.
412
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,11
She told me
to leave her alone.
413
00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:09,597
| didn't want
to hurt her.
414
00:23:11,140 --> 00:23:13,58
God, her eyes...
415
00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:16,437
if you saw her eyes.
416
00:23:18,105 --> 00:23:20,65
She walked right by me.
417
00:23:21,442 --> 00:23:23,944
She didn't say anything.
418
00:23:24,111 --> 00:23:27,865
| tried to tell her
how | need her.
419
00:23:28,32 --> 00:23:30,659
| didn't want to hurt her.
420
00:23:34,788 --> 00:23:37,541
She just got tangled up
in her dog leash...
421
00:23:39,460 --> 00:23:43,297
and | went to help her,
and she started hitting at me...
422
00:23:43,464 --> 00:23:45,883
and the dog was barking.
423
00:23:47,217 --> 00:23:49,303
| just wanted
to talk to her.
424
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:55,225
That's all, | ju--
| just wanted to talk to her.
425
00:23:56,602 --> 00:23:58,979
Olivet:
How long have you been aware of Lucy Neven?
426
00:23:59,146 --> 00:24:01,23
Jesse:
Ever since | can remember.
427
00:24:01,190 --> 00:24:04,234
- Olivet: Did you first recognize her on her TV show?
- Come on, Ben...
428
00:24:04,401 --> 00:24:07,696
- Jesse: Yes.
- You saw that tape-- this guy's got toys in the attic.
429
00:24:07,863 --> 00:24:11,75
Is he competent enough
to help you with his case?
430
00:24:11,241 --> 00:24:13,535
| guarantee you he didn't know
what he was doing.
431
00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:15,621
That's not the issue here,
is it?
432
00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:17,456
Can he help you
defend him?
433
00:24:17,623 --> 00:24:20,250
Maybe he can,
but he's still bonkers.
434
00:24:20,417 --> 00:24:22,628
He didn't know
what he was doing when he attacked her.
435
00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:25,130
You donât know that
and neither do I.
436
00:24:25,297 --> 00:24:27,925
Let's first see
if he can stand trial.
437
00:24:28,92 --> 00:24:31,553
I've seen trials on TV.
Lucy was in one.
438
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,430
What happens
at a trial, Jesse?
439
00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:35,808
Why are you
asking me that, hmm?
440
00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:38,394
We both know they decide
if you're guilty.
441
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,479
What does
your lawyer do?
442
00:24:40,646 --> 00:24:43,357
He tries
to defend me from--
443
00:24:43,524 --> 00:24:47,69
he keeps me
from going to jail.
444
00:24:47,236 --> 00:24:49,655
Why would you
go to jail, Jesse?
445
00:24:49,822 --> 00:24:52,282
Sorry, Dr. Olivet,
off limits.
446
00:24:52,449 --> 00:24:54,660
I'm not asking
about the crime, Dr. Mandel,
447
00:24:54,827 --> 00:24:57,162
I'm asking if he understands
why people go to jail.
448
00:24:57,329 --> 00:24:59,331
People go to jail
because they break the law.
449
00:24:59,498 --> 00:25:01,542
Hurting somebody--
is that breaking the law?
450
00:25:03,02 --> 00:25:04,837
These are
stupid questions.
451
00:25:05,838 --> 00:25:09,383
Jesse, please--
is it wrong to hurt somebody?
452
00:25:09,550 --> 00:25:11,927
| just wanted
to talk to her.
453
00:25:12,94 --> 00:25:14,138
That's all.
454
00:25:17,808 --> 00:25:19,810
Your Honor,
what is the argument?
455
00:25:19,977 --> 00:25:21,812
Mr. Unger understands
the legal process.
456
00:25:21,979 --> 00:25:25,149
Ben, he babbled a confession.
That doesn't give you a problem?
457
00:25:25,315 --> 00:25:28,485
He was frightened.
That does not mean he's not competent to stand trial.
458
00:25:28,652 --> 00:25:31,30
He does not understand
the criminal justice system.
459
00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:33,949
- He knows what a trial is.
- Hey, hey, this isn't free-for-all.
460
00:25:34,116 --> 00:25:36,35
| ask the questions.
461
00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:39,496
You honestly contend he can't
give you pertinent facts?
462
00:25:40,748 --> 00:25:42,499
Judge, he is suffering
a neurotic denial.
463
00:25:42,666 --> 00:25:45,210
It is hard to get any
information out of him at all.
464
00:25:45,377 --> 00:25:48,422
Well, I'll read the doctorsâ
reports again.
465
00:25:48,589 --> 00:25:51,633
Meantime, Mr. Unger
stays at Rikers.
466
00:25:53,343 --> 00:25:55,929
Man:
Come on, Lucy, you can do it.
467
00:25:56,96 --> 00:25:58,223
Right to the end.
468
00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:00,142
Keep walking.
469
00:26:01,351 --> 00:26:03,520
It's a piece of cake.
470
00:26:08,525 --> 00:26:11,487
They say if we go to trial,
that you'll be able to testify.
471
00:26:11,653 --> 00:26:13,447
It's your choice.
472
00:26:13,614 --> 00:26:15,616
Don't force yourself,
honey.
473
00:26:15,783 --> 00:26:20,996
I'll testify if | have to crawl
into the courtroom.
474
00:26:23,82 --> 00:26:25,375
He came after me before.
475
00:26:25,542 --> 00:26:27,920
He called the house
saveral times.
476
00:26:28,87 --> 00:26:31,590
Somehow he got
the number.
477
00:26:31,757 --> 00:26:33,634
If he doesn't
go to jail--
478
00:26:33,801 --> 00:26:35,594
( coughing )
479
00:26:35,761 --> 00:26:37,596
( gasps )
480
00:26:50,150 --> 00:26:52,820
Lucy, I'll do
everything | can
481
00:26:52,986 --> 00:26:54,947
to make sure
that never happens.
482
00:26:58,450 --> 00:27:00,285
Schreiber says
we can indict him.
483
00:27:00,452 --> 00:27:02,579
He's competent
to stand trial.
484
00:27:06,41 --> 00:27:07,835
Does that serve justice--
485
00:27:08,01 --> 00:27:10,879
Jesse Unger on trial,
Jesse Unger in prison?
486
00:27:11,46 --> 00:27:14,174
If he's responsible for his actions, yes,
| think justice is served.
487
00:27:14,341 --> 00:27:17,302
Mr. Stone, my son,
488
00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:20,305
after he lost
his mother--
489
00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:23,475
you can't imagine--
| tried to help him.
490
00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:25,811
Why didn't you seek
professional help?
491
00:27:25,978 --> 00:27:28,522
He's not like
other people.
492
00:27:28,689 --> 00:27:30,649
He never
seemed dangerous.
493
00:27:32,317 --> 00:27:33,735
Jack,
it's your meeting.
494
00:27:33,902 --> 00:27:37,72
Reconsider going to trial, Ben-- work out
some kind of treatment for him.
495
00:27:37,239 --> 00:27:39,741
If they can protect
Lucy Neven from him--
496
00:27:39,908 --> 00:27:42,703
- You know that they can't.
- A jury can.
497
00:27:43,704 --> 00:27:46,165
All I've got to do
is prove that he was insane
498
00:27:46,331 --> 00:27:48,876
at the moment he attacked her,
not a second before.
499
00:27:49,42 --> 00:27:50,961
Not a second after.
500
00:27:51,128 --> 00:27:54,464
I've tried a lot of these cases, Ben, you
haven't.
501
00:27:54,631 --> 00:27:57,92
I'm a quick study.
502
00:27:57,259 --> 00:27:59,178
Why is Gaffney so confident?
503
00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:01,513
Insanity defenses are
not easy to win.
504
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,100
Olivet'll testify he's not delusional.
What more can we do?
505
00:28:05,267 --> 00:28:08,270
"Delusional"--
fancy word.
506
00:28:08,437 --> 00:28:10,689
Might as well say
"subordinated debenture."
507
00:28:10,856 --> 00:28:13,734
A jury knows
âcrazyâ and "not crazy," Paul.
508
00:28:13,901 --> 00:28:15,652
They don't know
"legally crazy."
509
00:28:15,819 --> 00:28:17,863
You know
what really worries me?
510
00:28:18,30 --> 00:28:21,408
| make my best case
to prove he's sane, we lose.
511
00:28:21,575 --> 00:28:23,285
He goes to a hospital,
512
00:28:23,452 --> 00:28:27,748
| have to turn 180°
and argue he is not sane
513
00:28:27,915 --> 00:28:30,667
so they keep him there.
It's no-win.
514
00:28:30,834 --> 00:28:33,212
Maybe we make a deal--
assault.
515
00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:36,256
Bad risk-- goes away
for a couple years,
516
00:28:36,423 --> 00:28:39,09
as soon as he gets out,
he could kill that woman.
517
00:28:39,176 --> 00:28:40,969
( phone buzzes )
518
00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:47,726
Mm-hmm?
519
00:28:50,229 --> 00:28:53,273
Lucy Neven--
better talk to her.
520
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,277
How could they let him mail it?
Why didn't somebody stop him?
521
00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:02,157
"| never wanted to hurt you.
| had to bring you close.
522
00:29:02,324 --> 00:29:04,660
We're the same person.
We'll always be close."
523
00:29:04,826 --> 00:29:06,745
I'm sorry,
this shouldn't have happened.
524
00:29:08,497 --> 00:29:11,41
They put a watch
on his mail today.
525
00:29:11,208 --> 00:29:13,585
He said
we're the same person.
526
00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:16,255
He sounds
crazier than ever.
527
00:29:16,421 --> 00:29:19,549
He's shrewder than ever.
He wants to sound crazy.
528
00:29:20,968 --> 00:29:22,636
Do we have to turn
this over to Gaffney?
529
00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:27,99
If we don't turn it over, he's
gonna get a subpoena anyway.
530
00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:29,226
Jesse's gonna tell him
he sent the letter,
531
00:29:29,393 --> 00:29:31,478
and they're gonna use it
to show how crazy he is.
532
00:29:31,645 --> 00:29:33,730
That's what he wants.
533
00:29:36,733 --> 00:29:39,611
Stone:
And after reading the report of his personal history?
534
00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:41,238
| examined Mr. Unger.
535
00:29:41,405 --> 00:29:43,991
Did you reach any conclusions
about his mental condition?
536
00:29:44,157 --> 00:29:45,367
Yes, | have.
537
00:29:45,534 --> 00:29:48,745
Mr. Unger has personality
and character disorders.
538
00:29:48,912 --> 00:29:51,164
He's obsessive-compulsive,
539
00:29:51,331 --> 00:29:54,126
and exhibits signs
of extreme depression.
540
00:29:54,293 --> 00:29:57,879
Does this mean he is incapable of understanding
the consequences of his actions?
541
00:29:58,46 --> 00:30:02,384
No, it means he's unhappy,
and in some ways dysfunctional.
542
00:30:02,551 --> 00:30:06,179
In your expert opinion,
does Mr. Unger suffer from any condition
543
00:30:06,346 --> 00:30:08,974
that would impair his ability
to know right from wrong?
544
00:30:09,141 --> 00:30:11,935
Despite his emotional problems,
in my opinion,
545
00:30:12,102 --> 00:30:16,231
Mr. Unger has a complete understanding of
the consequences of his actions.
546
00:30:16,398 --> 00:30:18,191
Thank you.
No further questions.
547
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:20,569
Dr. Olivet,
548
00:30:20,736 --> 00:30:25,407
you spent three hours
talking to Mr. Unger.
549
00:30:27,75 --> 00:30:28,827
Do you think
that's sufficient time
550
00:30:28,994 --> 00:30:31,413
to make a judgment
on his mental health?
551
00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:34,207
-Yes, | do.
- Admirable.
552
00:30:34,374 --> 00:30:38,837
So you are telling this court,
with absolute assurance,
553
00:30:39,04 --> 00:30:42,90
that Mr. Unger
did not have an episode
554
00:30:42,257 --> 00:30:44,92
in which
he did not know
555
00:30:44,259 --> 00:30:46,178
the consequences
of his behavior?
556
00:30:46,345 --> 00:30:49,473
In my opinion, Mr. Unger
knows right from wrong.
557
00:30:50,515 --> 00:30:53,560
He told me
he'd been watching me
558
00:30:53,727 --> 00:30:56,271
because he knew
| would--
559
00:30:56,438 --> 00:31:00,108
| would love him
if only | met him.
560
00:31:00,275 --> 00:31:03,111
He was very excited,
561
00:31:03,278 --> 00:31:06,573
so | tried
to keep him calm,
562
00:31:06,740 --> 00:31:10,786
and then | tried
to get away.
563
00:31:10,952 --> 00:31:13,413
He told me to stop.
564
00:31:13,580 --> 00:31:16,958
And when | didn't,
he attacked me.
565
00:31:20,629 --> 00:31:23,673
Ms. Neven,
prior to this attack,
566
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,134
had you ever seen
the defendant before?
567
00:31:26,301 --> 00:31:30,597
He accosted me
on the street several times--
568
00:31:30,764 --> 00:31:33,642
| don't
remember how many.
569
00:31:33,809 --> 00:31:37,604
He told me that he had
called me on the phone.
570
00:31:38,647 --> 00:31:40,23
What is your profession?
571
00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:43,902
I'm-- | was
an actress.
572
00:31:44,69 --> 00:31:46,71
You were an actress?
573
00:31:46,238 --> 00:31:47,906
Does that mean
you don't expect
574
00:31:48,73 --> 00:31:49,574
to be able to continue
your career?
575
00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:51,451
Objection-- relevance.
576
00:31:51,618 --> 00:31:53,578
The extent of Ms. Neven's
injuries is relevant
577
00:31:53,745 --> 00:31:55,497
to the attempted
murder charge, Your Honor.
578
00:31:55,664 --> 00:31:58,792
Overruled.
The witness will answer.
579
00:32:00,836 --> 00:32:03,964
I'll be happy
if I'm able to walk.
580
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:09,219
Thank you.
No further questions.
581
00:32:10,595 --> 00:32:12,389
Mr. Gaffney?
582
00:32:20,856 --> 00:32:23,525
| have no questions
of this withess.
583
00:32:26,945 --> 00:32:29,948
- Olivet was convincing.
- Convincing isn't the point.
584
00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:33,910
Did they understand
"crazy" versus "legally crazy"?
585
00:32:37,456 --> 00:32:40,459
( bell jingles )
586
00:32:43,295 --> 00:32:46,631
Voices, delusions--
convenient.
587
00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:50,594
The one illness
that wins an insanity defense.
588
00:32:51,178 --> 00:32:53,388
You read
Mandel's transcript.
589
00:32:53,555 --> 00:32:55,182
Jesse talk
about voices then?
590
00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:57,476
Mandel
interviewed him again.
591
00:32:57,642 --> 00:32:58,935
Yeah, | wonder why?
592
00:32:59,102 --> 00:33:01,771
Gaffney--
would he coach his client?
593
00:33:01,938 --> 00:33:04,941
Well, it's hard to believe.
It's not his style.
594
00:33:05,108 --> 00:33:07,569
I'll tell you one voice
Jesse Unger is hearing--
595
00:33:07,736 --> 00:33:10,280
the voice telling him
how not to get convicted.
596
00:33:13,74 --> 00:33:17,245
Listen to this.
"Mandel: "Why didnât you tell me you heard voices?"
597
00:33:17,412 --> 00:33:21,166
Jesse: "The voice
said not to tell you. My father said | should."
598
00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:23,418
"My father said | should."
599
00:33:24,586 --> 00:33:26,546
Your interviews--
ho voices?
600
00:33:28,89 --> 00:33:29,758
Is he delusional?
601
00:33:29,925 --> 00:33:32,677
Am | 100% sure? 99.
602
00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:35,722
- I'd prefer 100.
- Never happens.
603
00:33:35,889 --> 00:33:38,600
Somebody told Dad
what would get Jesse off.
604
00:33:38,767 --> 00:33:40,560
Dad told Jesse.
605
00:33:40,727 --> 00:33:43,313
Voices are
a very specific symptom.
606
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,441
- Mandel.
- Intentionally, | doubt it.
607
00:33:46,608 --> 00:33:48,652
What about Gaffney?
608
00:33:48,818 --> 00:33:51,571
Paul read the transcripts
of his other cases.
609
00:33:51,738 --> 00:33:53,490
Not all of 'em.
610
00:33:54,783 --> 00:33:56,785
Well, then, dig up
the ones you haven't read
611
00:33:56,952 --> 00:33:59,829
and let's find out how crazy
his other clients really were.
612
00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:06,419
After Jesse's mother died,
he couldn't concentrate.
613
00:34:07,546 --> 00:34:09,381
He used to say
he was going crazy.
614
00:34:11,341 --> 00:34:13,552
What was he most
concerned about?
615
00:34:14,803 --> 00:34:17,180
He thought the world
was going to blow up.
616
00:34:17,347 --> 00:34:19,516
What were some
of his other problems?
617
00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:24,479
He said he heard
voices in his head.
618
00:34:25,897 --> 00:34:27,649
Like a radio.
619
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:30,902
Thank you.
620
00:34:35,991 --> 00:34:38,159
Mr. Unger...
621
00:34:38,326 --> 00:34:42,80
when exactly did Jesse
tell you he heard voices?
622
00:34:43,707 --> 00:34:46,751
| think maybe in his sophomore
year in high school--
623
00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:49,713
could have been earlier,
maybe later.
624
00:34:49,879 --> 00:34:51,381
Il can't remember.
625
00:34:51,548 --> 00:34:55,51
What did he say
these voices told him?
626
00:34:57,971 --> 00:34:59,514
Il can't remember.
627
00:34:59,681 --> 00:35:02,475
You remember
he heard voices.
628
00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:05,812
| do. Yes, | do.
629
00:35:05,979 --> 00:35:08,481
Did you seek psychiatric care
for your son at this time?
630
00:35:12,819 --> 00:35:15,280
No.
Why not?
631
00:35:15,447 --> 00:35:17,240
Well...
632
00:35:19,34 --> 00:35:20,827
I'm not sure
why | didn't.
633
00:35:22,454 --> 00:35:24,497
That's odd.
634
00:35:25,540 --> 00:35:26,833
Thank you.
635
00:35:27,00 --> 00:35:31,212
Mr. Unger suffers
from processive disintegration.
636
00:35:31,379 --> 00:35:34,758
One of the symptoms
is command hallucinations--
637
00:35:34,924 --> 00:35:36,968
voices telling him
to do things.
638
00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:39,304
Now, Dr. Mandel...
639
00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:41,890
Jesse Unger told you
640
00:35:42,57 --> 00:35:46,61
that he heard voices
telling him
641
00:35:46,227 --> 00:35:48,605
to kill Lucy Neven.
642
00:35:48,772 --> 00:35:53,568
Would that mean that he was
out of control of his actions?
643
00:35:53,735 --> 00:35:55,403
In my opinion, yes.
644
00:35:55,570 --> 00:35:59,199
Mr. Unger is often guided
by an overpowering voice
645
00:35:59,366 --> 00:36:00,909
he believes to be real.
646
00:36:01,76 --> 00:36:02,994
Thank you, Doctor.
647
00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:09,84
"Processive disintegration."
648
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,840
Is that a recognized
medical diagnosis?
649
00:36:16,07 --> 00:36:20,53
It's my language
for a combination of disorders.
650
00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:23,181
So it does not exist
in standard reference works?
651
00:36:23,348 --> 00:36:25,433
Yes, that's right.
652
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,436
Now you testified that
you interviewed Jesse twice.
653
00:36:28,603 --> 00:36:31,314
Did he mention hearing voices
in the first interview?
654
00:36:31,481 --> 00:36:33,149
No, he was afraid to.
655
00:36:33,316 --> 00:36:36,611
So he never mentioned voices
until you brought it up?
656
00:36:36,778 --> 00:36:38,405
- Yes.
- Thank you.
657
00:36:38,571 --> 00:36:40,990
- But--
- Thank you, Doctor.
658
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,160
Stone:
| think they're playing with the system.
659
00:36:44,327 --> 00:36:45,745
Lying? All of âem?
660
00:36:47,288 --> 00:36:49,207
You think
the shrink coached âem?
661
00:36:49,374 --> 00:36:51,459
Maybe.
662
00:36:51,626 --> 00:36:53,628
Gaffney?
663
00:36:53,795 --> 00:36:55,463
You don't think a lawyer
would do it.
664
00:36:55,630 --> 00:36:58,425
Olivet doesn't think a shrink would do it.
We're back where we started.
665
00:36:58,591 --> 00:37:01,803
He goes to a hospital, he says
suddenly that he's cured,
666
00:37:01,970 --> 00:37:04,723
he doesn't hear voices anymore,
and he's out on the street again
667
00:37:04,889 --> 00:37:07,600
faster than Lucy Neven
can change her phone number.
668
00:37:07,767 --> 00:37:10,186
( knocks )
669
00:37:10,353 --> 00:37:12,313
| finished
Gaffney's cases--
670
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,899
all the way back to '79.
671
00:37:15,66 --> 00:37:18,862
13 insanity defenses,
seven acquittals.
672
00:37:19,28 --> 00:37:22,407
Three of them, defendants were delusional
after they started trial.
673
00:37:22,574 --> 00:37:25,410
- Right.
- It's not a clear pattern.
674
00:37:25,577 --> 00:37:27,620
| grant you
it's questionable.
675
00:37:27,787 --> 00:37:30,290
Call Mr. Unger.
Say, if he agrees,
676
00:37:30,457 --> 00:37:32,333
we'd like to meet
with him alone.
677
00:37:35,44 --> 00:37:36,963
That's absurd.
678
00:37:37,130 --> 00:37:39,966
You think
| would lie under oath?
679
00:37:40,133 --> 00:37:42,761
As a parent,
yes, | think you would.
680
00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:45,180
You want
my son in jail.
681
00:37:45,346 --> 00:37:47,390
Do you want me
in jail, too?
682
00:37:48,808 --> 00:37:50,518
Do you have
children, Mr. Stone?
683
00:37:50,685 --> 00:37:53,688
Are they healthy, happy?
684
00:37:53,855 --> 00:37:56,733
We all want
our children to be happy.
685
00:37:58,26 --> 00:38:00,779
If not so,
at least protected.
686
00:38:00,945 --> 00:38:03,698
My son is sick.
687
00:38:03,865 --> 00:38:06,451
There is no dispute.
688
00:38:08,578 --> 00:38:10,163
Good night.
689
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:19,923
He had no right
to drag Bill Unger down here.
690
00:38:20,89 --> 00:38:22,91
Mr. Unger was invited.
691
00:38:22,258 --> 00:38:25,345
You wanted him
to implicate me in perjury.
692
00:38:25,512 --> 00:38:28,723
Three cases, your clients
never heard voices until trial.
693
00:38:28,890 --> 00:38:30,809
Mandel was your shrink
on two of 'em.
694
00:38:30,975 --> 00:38:34,521
If | want to discuss Jesse's
symptoms with his father, that's my job.
695
00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:36,397
Jack, you're overplaying
your hand.
696
00:38:36,564 --> 00:38:38,66
There's an appearance
of impropriety.
697
00:38:38,233 --> 00:38:40,860
File a complaint
with the disciplinary committee,
698
00:38:42,904 --> 00:38:44,489
The ghost
of John Hinkley--
699
00:38:44,656 --> 00:38:46,574
that the problem?
700
00:38:46,741 --> 00:38:50,78
Shoots the President
of the Untied States and gets off?
701
00:38:51,371 --> 00:38:53,206
You're desperate,
aren't you?
702
00:38:53,373 --> 00:38:55,416
You want out of this?
703
00:38:55,583 --> 00:38:57,502
I'll plead it.
704
00:38:57,669 --> 00:38:59,128
Assault one.
705
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,217
Gentleman,
think about it.
706
00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:09,305
( door opens, closes )
707
00:39:09,472 --> 00:39:12,58
| don't know, Adam.
Jesse Unger could walk.
708
00:39:12,225 --> 00:39:14,602
Gaffney's bluffing
with assault.
709
00:39:14,769 --> 00:39:17,981
He'll take manslaughter one,
attempt.
710
00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:24,112
| should talk
with Lucy Neven.
711
00:39:25,905 --> 00:39:29,284
What does it mean?
How long?
712
00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:32,954
A minimum of five years,
a maximum of 15.
713
00:39:35,498 --> 00:39:37,584
What do you think?
714
00:39:38,918 --> 00:39:41,212
It's your life,
but honestly,
715
00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:44,132
| don't know
what that jury'll do.
716
00:39:46,843 --> 00:39:51,431
Is there any way
we can make sure it's 15?
717
00:39:52,974 --> 00:39:56,936
The parole board?
We can recommend.
718
00:39:58,229 --> 00:39:59,981
We have no control
over them.
719
00:40:00,148 --> 00:40:02,525
And they're
just as unpredictable as juries.
720
00:40:04,110 --> 00:40:06,195
Why me?
721
00:40:06,362 --> 00:40:08,615
| can't
give him anything.
722
00:40:12,535 --> 00:40:16,372
I'll take my chances
with the jury,
723
00:40:16,539 --> 00:40:18,791
if it's all right
with you.
724
00:40:21,169 --> 00:40:23,338
Lucy, the jury...
725
00:40:25,465 --> 00:40:28,217
it may not give you
what you want.
726
00:40:28,384 --> 00:40:33,139
What | want
is what | had.
727
00:40:37,810 --> 00:40:41,564
How often do you hear
this voice, Jesse?
728
00:40:41,731 --> 00:40:45,360
Jesse:
She talks to me when | get confused.
729
00:40:45,526 --> 00:40:48,321
It's a woman's
voice? Mm-hmm.
730
00:40:48,488 --> 00:40:51,199
Does the voice
have a hame?
731
00:40:51,366 --> 00:40:54,577
No, she's--
she's just there.
732
00:40:54,744 --> 00:40:56,162
What does she tell you?
733
00:40:56,329 --> 00:40:59,916
Can't talk about that.
734
00:41:00,83 --> 00:41:02,85
Gaffney: Jesse...
735
00:41:02,251 --> 00:41:07,215
did this voice tell you
to hurt Lucy Neven?
736
00:41:09,884 --> 00:41:14,138
She told me that if Lucy
wouldn't love me,
737
00:41:14,305 --> 00:41:16,849
that | had to kill her.
738
00:41:20,103 --> 00:41:22,480
Is this your handwriting?
739
00:41:22,647 --> 00:41:24,774
Mm-hmm.
740
00:41:24,941 --> 00:41:27,443
Did you write this to Lucy
and send it to her?
741
00:41:27,610 --> 00:41:29,445
Yes, | did.
742
00:41:29,612 --> 00:41:32,573
I'd like you to read
from the top,
743
00:41:32,740 --> 00:41:34,659
out loud to the court.
744
00:41:37,161 --> 00:41:40,81
"Dear Lucy,
| Know you understand,
745
00:41:40,248 --> 00:41:43,376
| never meant to hurt you.
| wanted to protect you."
746
00:41:43,543 --> 00:41:47,505
Louder, son,
so everyone can hear.
747
00:41:50,258 --> 00:41:53,511
"| know you understand
| never meant to hurt you.
748
00:41:53,678 --> 00:41:55,930
| wanted
to protect you.
749
00:41:56,97 --> 00:41:58,558
| Know that
you care about me.
750
00:41:58,725 --> 00:42:00,852
| know
we could be together.
751
00:42:01,19 --> 00:42:03,104
| would do
anything for you.
752
00:42:03,271 --> 00:42:06,149
| didn't
want to hit you.
753
00:42:06,315 --> 00:42:08,443
| love you.
754
00:42:08,609 --> 00:42:11,362
See, inside
we're the same.
755
00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:13,740
We're the same people."
756
00:42:16,75 --> 00:42:17,952
Gaffney:
Thank you, Jesse.
757
00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:23,458
Mr. Unger,
how old were you
758
00:42:23,624 --> 00:42:26,627
when you first heard
this woman's voice?
759
00:42:26,794 --> 00:42:29,922
| don't remember.
She's always with me.
760
00:42:31,132 --> 00:42:33,134
And aside
from Lucy Neven,
761
00:42:33,301 --> 00:42:36,12
did the voice ask you
to hurt other people?
762
00:42:36,179 --> 00:42:38,306
| don't remember.
763
00:42:39,682 --> 00:42:41,350
If you had
the opportunity,
764
00:42:41,517 --> 00:42:44,312
would you still want
to talk with Lucy Neven?
765
00:42:44,479 --> 00:42:45,646
Uh-huh.
766
00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:47,440
Would you continue
to write to her?
767
00:42:47,607 --> 00:42:49,567
Yes, I'd have to.
768
00:42:49,734 --> 00:42:54,155
And if you had the opportunity,
would you want to pursue a relationship with her?
769
00:42:55,323 --> 00:42:58,117
| don't Know. Maybe.
770
00:42:59,994 --> 00:43:01,537
Nothing's changed.
771
00:43:01,704 --> 00:43:04,165
Stone:
Nothing's changed?
772
00:43:04,332 --> 00:43:07,543
No. Nothing.
773
00:43:11,506 --> 00:43:13,925
So what are you
to decide?
774
00:43:14,92 --> 00:43:18,12
In our society, we make
exceptions for mental illness.
775
00:43:18,179 --> 00:43:20,807
But should
that exception be made
776
00:43:20,973 --> 00:43:24,143
when it endangers
the life of another human being?
777
00:43:24,310 --> 00:43:27,271
And Jesse Unger
has made it perfectly clear
778
00:43:27,438 --> 00:43:30,566
that he will come after
Lucy Neven again and again,
779
00:43:30,733 --> 00:43:32,735
until he gets
what he wants from her.
780
00:43:32,902 --> 00:43:35,29
And if he can't have her,
781
00:43:35,196 --> 00:43:37,740
heâll make sure
ho one else does.
782
00:43:37,907 --> 00:43:40,618
Now, is this
obsession insane?
783
00:43:43,287 --> 00:43:46,666
No one can completely know
the mind of another human being.
784
00:43:46,833 --> 00:43:50,253
We can't crawl inside his skin
and see the world as he sees it.
785
00:43:50,419 --> 00:43:52,171
However, we do know
786
00:43:52,338 --> 00:43:55,842
that Jesse Unger had
no documented history
787
00:43:56,08 --> 00:43:58,553
of delusional episodes
prior to this case.
788
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,98
In fact, he made
no mention of delusions
789
00:44:02,265 --> 00:44:05,184
or hearing voices
until after his father
790
00:44:05,351 --> 00:44:09,397
had asked for a second
psychiatric evaluation.
791
00:44:09,564 --> 00:44:12,441
Now, under the law,
we human beings
792
00:44:12,608 --> 00:44:14,360
are responsible
for our actions,
793
00:44:14,527 --> 00:44:18,698
except for one thing--
delusional mental illness.
794
00:44:20,324 --> 00:44:24,203
Jesse Unger's convenient
and last-minute reporting
795
00:44:24,370 --> 00:44:27,832
of this condition
is a responsible act.
796
00:44:27,999 --> 00:44:31,752
He knows,
as Clearly as you or |,
797
00:44:31,919 --> 00:44:34,422
that he brutally
attacked Lucy Neven.
798
00:44:34,589 --> 00:44:36,757
And he knows
just as clearly
799
00:44:36,924 --> 00:44:40,469
what he has to do
to escape punishment.
800
00:44:40,636 --> 00:44:45,641
Now, he destroyed
Lucy Neven's life.
801
00:44:47,268 --> 00:44:49,770
Hold him
responsible for it.
802
00:44:54,317 --> 00:44:56,277
Judge:
On the sole count of the indictment,
803
00:44:56,444 --> 00:44:59,71
attempted murder in the second
degree, how do you find?
804
00:44:59,238 --> 00:45:01,574
We find
the defendant guilty.
805
00:45:01,741 --> 00:45:04,785
- (audience murmuring )
-Judge: | thank the jury for their service.
806
00:45:04,952 --> 00:45:06,621
- (gavel strikes )
- Court is adjourned.
807
00:45:06,787 --> 00:45:08,372
Sentencing hearing
to be scheduled.
808
00:45:08,539 --> 00:45:11,584
-Man #1: Excuse me.
- Man #2: Let's get out of here.
809
00:45:11,751 --> 00:45:13,544
Thank you.
810
00:45:31,938 --> 00:45:35,149
Well, you may not be happy.
Lucy Neven is.
811
00:45:35,316 --> 00:45:38,110
You know as well as | do
that the law ought to be changed.
812
00:45:38,277 --> 00:45:39,987
Juries are not
psychiatrists.
813
00:45:40,154 --> 00:45:42,490
He never got the help
he needed, Ben.
814
00:45:42,657 --> 00:45:45,159
And the jury followed
the only law we've got.
815
00:45:45,326 --> 00:45:48,579
We're not gods.
We're not even angels.
816
00:45:49,872 --> 00:45:52,792
He should be in a hospital.
We put him in jail.
817
00:46:06,97 --> 00:46:09,642
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