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[music]
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Yes.
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We have a plethora
of photo albums
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and I have 10 scrapbooks
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that are full of finished pages
with no pictures
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because pictures are hard.
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There's my Christina.
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There she is,
playing with her sisters.
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I've lost track
of where I was going.
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It's distracting
even seeing them.
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Over time, I've gone over
the stages of grief.
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But I don't believe, even now,
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that I necessarily
accept her death.
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I needed to hold someone
accountable for her death.
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We all knew something bad
just happened to her,
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this isn't natural.
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So we investigated,
bought books,
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and learned as much as we could.
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This is like
a travesty of justice.
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September 29th, 2014, it just...
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Is that even a real day?
I don't know.
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I think the whole day
stands out.
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It just seems surreal.
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[Katrina] I just
think of this on
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the day the lights went out
in Georgia,
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it's like the day
the lights weren't out,
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like the world stopped,
September 29th, 2014.
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It halted and stayed there,
and it's still there.
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I feel like the Earth
jolted on its axis
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and it's just stuck.
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My name is Katrina Sharon
and I am the middle sister
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to Christina Harris.
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My name's Patricia Hutchinson
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and I am the youngest sister
of Christina Harris.
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[Katrina] Christina
is the oldest.
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I am five years younger,
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and Patricia is eight years
younger than Christy.
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We were a rowdy group of girls.
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I was roughly three years old,
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and I remember finding
this really long lip gloss,
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and it was strawberry flavored.
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And so I asked Christy
what it was.
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And she said to me,
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"Oh, you know what that's for?
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That's to make your feet
smell like strawberries."
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So at three years old,
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I'm rubbing this on the bottom
of my bare feet,
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and come to find out
that was Mom's lip gloss.
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[laughing]
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[Patricia] Hopefully
she didn't use it after.
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She did is what I'm telling you.
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[Patricia] Oh. Oh. Egh, gross.
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[James] Christy was
just very independent,
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very tenacious.
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When she learned
to ride her bike,
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she spent the whole day,
wrecking the in backyard.
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And by the end of the day,
she could ride her bike.
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And, of course, her knees
were all scraped and dirty,
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but she didn't seem to care.
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She had accomplished her goal.
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[Kathy] We are at one of
her favorite places on Earth.
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It's Pratt Lake,
Gladwin, Michigan,
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at her grandparents' lake house
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that she spent summers
when she was a child
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and occasionally
when she was a grownup.
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When Christy met Jason,
she was 21.
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[Patricia] When they
started dating,
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he seemed to be good
with Christy.
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They like similar things.
They like rock music.
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[Katrina] I was Christy's
maid of honor
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for her wedding.
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It was one of Christy's
most favorite days ever.
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And that's because she
was the center of attention.
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Christy's always wanted
to be married, have kids,
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and basically have
the white picket fence,
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that whole story.
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[Kathy] When Christy
got pregnant,
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she was over the moon
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because this was an experience,
yeah, of her dreams.
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It was finally happening
for her.
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[Katrina] Hailey was born
November 1st, 2009.
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Kaliann Jay was born
on May 20th, 2014.
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[Kathy] She loved it,
she was happy,
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and that was worth
a million bucks right there.
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Is Christy happy?
Then I'm happy.
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On September 29th,
I was at my desk at work,
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and I got a phone call
from Jason,
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Christy's husband.
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He said,
"Come to the house now."
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And I was in the next town over.
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I was concerned about
finding out what was going on
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because I had seen her
the day before
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and she was fine.
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I trusted that Christy
and the kids were safe
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with him.
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[James] I got in the car,
drove to Christy's house,
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pulled in,
parked in front of the house.
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There was an ambulance
in the driveway.
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Jason was there, looking sad.
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So I went into the house,
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and Christy was laying in
the bed with a blanket over her.
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And it was pretty much
an out of body experience.
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It's just disbelief.
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It's literally like you're
watching a movie of yourself
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and it's like,
how do you react to this?
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[Kathy] I pulled up at the curb
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right across
from the front door.
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And that's where Jim came out
through the passenger side door
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and told me
that Christy was gone.
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I got hysterical.
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I said, "This isn't true."
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And I'm like, "What is going on?
What happened?"
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Jason was telling me
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that she was in bed
and she didn't wake up,
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and the neighbor had found her.
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Jason was explaining to me
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that there had been
some problems
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that, when breastfeeding,
he didn't know
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how many times he had gotten her
a glass of water
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and she would say
it tasted chemically.
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At this day in time,
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what is breaking
in our news, locally,
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is the Flint city water crisis.
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And I said, "Jason,
you have well water,
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but you have
Davison city well water.
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You do not have
Flint well water.
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Your water should not be
tasting chemically."
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I said, "That doesn't
make sense."
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I was not buying this scenario.
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And then it hit me,
what did he do?
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She's healthy, she's 36.
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She's a breastfeeding mother.
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She's been going
to the doctor for nine months.
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And this isn't natural.
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This isn't natural for her
not to just wake up.
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[Patricia] How did she
not wake up?
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It was as though I didn't know
how to process that information.
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[Katrina] My dad said,
"You need to come home.
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It's Christy."
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I was in shock, driving,
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and started shaking,
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and didn't even know
what to think.
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And so I called my best friend.
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[Stephany] I got a call
from Katrina.
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And I just couldn't make out
what she was saying at first.
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It was just,
"Christy didn't wake up."
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I'm like, "What do you mean?"
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Nothing made sense.
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[Katrina] And she's like,
"How the eff does that happen?"
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And that sentence
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is what got me out
of my crying, emotional,
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and I was able to focus.
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And I was like, "Yeah,
how does that happen?"
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[music]
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I couldn't process anything
in the moment that day.
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[Katrina] I feel like,
when I look back on the day,
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we weren't just
a mourning family.
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We were screaming
that this is not right.
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[Patricia] My mom immediately
just flipped a switch
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and was like,
"Okay, we gotta pursue this
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'cause this didn't happen
naturally."
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I could not get
the medical examiner
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to sync up with me.
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And I'm standing there,
telling him,
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"She's a breastfeeding mother.
She's healthy.
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I seen her yesterday.
She wasn't feeling bad.
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This makes no sense.
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Why would a healthy 36-year-old
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just not wake up
in the morning?"
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And Jason is standing there,
listening to these conversations
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and participating
with this conversation
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with the medical examiner.
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There was absolutely
no doubt in my mind
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that this was not
a natural cause.
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[Stephany] It was just wrong.
Everything sounded wrong.
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So that's when we all headed
over to Jim and Kathy's.
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[Kathy] We were all sitting
here in the living room,
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asking the questions,
how could this happen?
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[Katrina] I had been
trying to figure out,
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what's the cause?
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So I just said,
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"What's everybody's
conspiracy theory?"
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[Kathy] I said,
"Before Christy passed away,
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she called me one day
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and she said Jason was texting
other women."
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She sent me a copy
of the phone record.
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He transcribed
all the text messages.
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I transcribed
all the text messages.
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I saw the length
that Jason went.
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I mean,
Christy pulled phone records
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and there was thousands of texts
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between him
and these other women.
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That she was worth
more dead than alive.
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[Kathy] And I said,
"What happens
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if he had done something?"
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There was quiet.
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[Katrina] Even knowing that
the relationship was rocky,
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I did not go mentally
to foul play
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like my mom had done.
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I was 16 years old
when I met Jason.
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He was introduced to us as Jay.
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I would go hang out
at Christy's house,
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so I was around him more often.
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I would go over and play games
for game nights,
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and they would kiss
three times,
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and she would always say,
"Past, present, future."
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Jason was very much
a part of the family.
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On outward,
you've seen the happy family,
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but Christy let me know
that there were issues.
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And I think
that was the catalyst,
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subconsciously,
the day she passed away,
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for how I responded.
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I remember feeling something
that I never comprehended
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who goes to the police.
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How do you go to the police?
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[James] Finally, we actually
went in on October...
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[Kathy] Well, speak to
the police for the first time.
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Yeah.
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We went to see the Davison City
Police Department
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and we said we think
that there's foul play.
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We were told that they couldn't
do anything
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without the autopsy results.
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[Katrina]
A police officer told her
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that it could be
as soon as two weeks
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or as long as 90 days
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before any answers would come,
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and that it just took time.
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But if we really felt
that there was foul play,
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he said that we should start
a notebook
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and we needed to keep track
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of any details
that we thought of.
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Now, I don't necessarily
believe that he
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realized who he was talking to.
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So this was our version of what
you would call a murder book.
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This is all of the info
that we pulled together.
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So we've got in here
the autopsy report,
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which came
from the medical examiner's.
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About three weeks in,
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the actual autopsy results
came out.
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Davison City Police Department
called us up
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and said, "Come in
for a meeting tomorrow
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and we'll discuss
the autopsy results."
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So at 11:03, we found out
the death was heroin toxicity.
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We sat there, blindsided,
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with the chief
and the detective.
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[Katrina] She said,
"The only thing it says
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is heroin toxicity."
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From that moment on,
it was like, "Nope,
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I know for a fact
she didn't do it."
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That's all I needed.
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[James] They wrote it down
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and gave us the impression
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that they were gonna be
moving forward
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with the investigation.
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That was the furthest thing
from the truth.
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It's like a different planet.
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So we told him
without a shadow of a doubt
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this was not something
Christy would do.
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It was an instant
"Oh, hell, no.
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This is murder."
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[Katrina] The death certificate
had been released
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that it was death
by heroin toxicity.
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And absolutely not.
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I still stay absolutely not.
That's my response to that.
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"She's breastfeeding.
There is no way
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our sister did that."
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So it only leaves one person.
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[Patricia] I didn't wanna believe
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that he would do something
like that.
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I mean, we're talking about
a 16-year relationship.
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This isn't just
some new random person.
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So how does somebody
just do that?
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[Katrina] You don't wanna think
that your brother-in-law
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is gonna murder your sister.
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You just don't wanna
mentally go there.
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The medical examiner said
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that Christy's cause of death
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was a self-induced overdose.
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And the death certificate
stated "accident",
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and it was put in a folder
in a desk unworked.
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No one
was taking responsibility,
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assuming it was at
her own hands.
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[Kathy] The next day,
I contacted Jason,
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because we also had
two little girls
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that we needed to deal with,
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and one's an infant.
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I'd do anything
to keep the girls close.
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Pretending with Jason
is just what I had to do
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'cause I just needed to know
they were okay.
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I said, if he wanted,
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we would take the baby at nights
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because Christy
had been breastfeeding.
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So the agreement was
Jim and I would keep the baby
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during the night
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and bring her
to daycare in the morning.
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[James] Kali spent
her first year here.
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I'd get up in the middle
of the night
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and feed her the bottle--
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the bottle with her mother's
breast milk in it, by the way.
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Jason brought over all
of the breast milk
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she had in the freezer,
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literally months' worth
of saved breast milk.
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Because I had been
to nursing school,
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I always looked
at the breast milk
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as a sample to be tested.
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Because it came from her body,
it is evidence.
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That literally was
the only physical evidence
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that we had
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because we didn't have blood
from her.
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It wasn't like hair or anything.
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But it was a substance
from her person.
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[Patricia] This wasn't
a situation of pump-and-dump
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and use drugs.
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I mean, just because
of the volume we had.
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And we were all confident
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that there was no heroin
in Christy's breast milk.
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So we just wanted
to use that as proof.
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We wanted
to test the breast milk,
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but we did not
have the financial means
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to find an exterior lab,
and we wanted
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to make sure that,
if the breast milk was tested,
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that it was done so that it
would be admissible in court.
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So we had told the police
that we had that.
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They said,
"I'll make note of it."
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But they never asked for it.
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I ended up with insomnia.
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And so I would lay
in bed, thinking,
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how can this be reality?
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If she died of heroin,
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we need proof
that he gave it to her.
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So where'd he get it?
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I was awake at odd hours.
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And so I would spend
a lot of time
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on the computer.
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Technically, I do not have
any investigative training,
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but I am very good at research.
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And I have no problem
utilizing Google searches
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to the best of my ability.
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I knew that Jason was working
at United Plastics.
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The president of the company
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worked with Narcotics Anonymous
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to hire his workforce to help
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get guys who are trying
to stay clean
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a good job.
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There's a lot of addicts
working at United Plastics.
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So I knew his work environment
could have been
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where the drugs had come from.
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The president of United Plastics
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was aware of all the rumors
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and knew a list of guys
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who would share information.
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So I started researching people
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and who they're friends with,
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and who their friends
are friends with.
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The information
that came out of that
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series of interviews
we did with co-workers
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was that Jason did talk
to co-workers about killing her.
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He asked about drugs.
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Jason was asking what drugs
could be not tasted
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if put in water.
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The employees
did not advocate that.
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[Patricia] One of my
roller derby teammates,
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her brother worked with Jason.
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And my friend tells me
the rumor at work
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is that he killed her
for life insurance money.
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[James] Now, to us,
that was the green light
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to say this thing
should really start moving.
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I took that to the Davison City
Police Department,
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and the sad part
is it went nowhere.
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[Katrina] Christy's
life insurance
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was part of a medical insurance.
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And she had changed her amount
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to be a life insurance policy
of $100,000.
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The change was because
the baby was born.
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Unsure who,
between Jason and Christy,
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is the actual decision-maker
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on the policy
being what it was.
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But even after doing it,
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Christy believed
that it was in excess.
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Christy had made
the comment to my mom,
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"I am worth more dead
than alive to him."
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We realized
that the life insurance
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could have been
the major driving force
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as to why Christy was deceased.
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I look back on the day
and I remember
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the viewing was on Friday.
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I had lines of people
wanting to say,
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"I'm so sorry
for the loss of your sister."
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It was very overwhelming.
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And I felt
very a part of the community.
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But when heroin toxicity
gets told,
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people didn't know.
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And we weren't talking about it
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because there's
an investigation.
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And we're not gonna
jeopardize an investigation
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by saying my sister died
of heroin toxicity
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because he's obviously involved.
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And I don't know
who all talks to who.
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It's a small community.
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We didn't want Jason to know.
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00:22:45,571 --> 00:22:48,574
We knew he was involved.
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00:22:51,956 --> 00:22:55,960
Jason did not seem like
a grieving widow at all.
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00:22:56,409 --> 00:22:58,860
He was bragging about the fact
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00:22:58,963 --> 00:23:02,450
that his refrigerator was
stocked full of so much food.
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00:23:02,967 --> 00:23:06,695
The only way I can describe it
is a manic high of,
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00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:09,215
"Look at all this stuff
I'm getting."
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[Patricia] I recall
Jason went up
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to one of the funeral directors
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00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:14,462
and was asking
about when the mail came.
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What, specifically,
was delivered
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to the funeral home?
I guess I'm not sure.
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It was the life insurance payout
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that I believe was $20,000.
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They do an instant payout,
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so he was waiting for the check
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because the funeral home
would take their portion
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and he would have the remainder.
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00:23:35,517 --> 00:23:37,001
And I remember he was
very agitated
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asking about
when the mail was coming.
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00:23:38,934 --> 00:23:40,349
Yes.
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He wanted access to those funds.
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[Patricia] Jason made me feel
very uncomfortable
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at the funeral.
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He cornered me
in the vestibule area
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00:23:50,912 --> 00:23:53,190
of the funeral home
when we were leaving
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00:23:53,293 --> 00:23:54,605
and basically said,
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00:23:54,709 --> 00:23:55,744
"You're gonna have to
talk to me sometime,"
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00:23:55,848 --> 00:23:57,505
and he made me hug him.
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00:23:57,608 --> 00:24:00,197
And I just, I couldn't get
out of there fast enough.
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00:24:05,098 --> 00:24:07,446
[James] While we were doing
all this investigating,
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00:24:07,549 --> 00:24:10,276
there was one key thing
that had to happen.
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00:24:10,587 --> 00:24:12,727
Jason Harris could not
know about this
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00:24:13,244 --> 00:24:16,316
because Jason Harris
had our two granddaughters.
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00:24:17,076 --> 00:24:21,805
And we knew
he was a vindictive person.
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00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:26,223
We wanted to make sure
any key parts
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00:24:26,326 --> 00:24:27,431
were still gathered.
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00:24:27,742 --> 00:24:32,056
So we stayed very close
to Jason.
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00:24:32,401 --> 00:24:34,162
Jason had no idea
what was going on
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as far as us thinking,
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perhaps, that maybe
he was involved.
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He couldn't have had any idea.
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00:24:42,584 --> 00:24:44,759
[Katrina] I know he has
a very short fuse.
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00:24:44,862 --> 00:24:48,797
And I was more fearful
of his interactions
445
00:24:48,901 --> 00:24:53,215
and was afraid of what he might
do to the kids
446
00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:55,942
or myself or any of us
447
00:24:56,046 --> 00:24:57,012
if he were found
448
00:24:57,116 --> 00:24:59,498
in an environment with us
alone with him.
449
00:25:02,535 --> 00:25:04,744
"Kathy commented the detective
450
00:25:04,848 --> 00:25:06,919
and the chief blew you off
when you said
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00:25:07,022 --> 00:25:09,128
that the insurance
money was a motive."
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00:25:09,231 --> 00:25:10,370
Mm-hmm.
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00:25:10,474 --> 00:25:11,648
[James]
"Jason says that he wants
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to purchase a house
a couple streets over.
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00:25:14,754 --> 00:25:18,793
And he's been on
an obvious spending spree."
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[Katrina] Jason had put
a down payment on a house
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00:25:28,285 --> 00:25:30,805
about a block or so away
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from the house
Christy passed away in.
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00:25:33,462 --> 00:25:36,327
And so New Year's Eve,
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00:25:36,431 --> 00:25:38,571
he had called and said
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00:25:38,675 --> 00:25:43,196
that if we wanted
the Coca-Cola collection
462
00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:45,095
that my mom had given Christy,
463
00:25:45,198 --> 00:25:47,615
it was at the house
and we could pick it up.
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00:25:48,616 --> 00:25:50,376
So my dad and I
went to the house
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to pick up the collection.
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00:25:53,103 --> 00:25:56,555
And we realized
that he wasn't there.
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So I took advantage
of the opportunity.
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00:26:01,525 --> 00:26:04,045
- [James] There's no electricity?
- [Katrina] Uh, no.
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00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:09,947
I videotaped a tour of the house
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00:26:10,051 --> 00:26:11,328
as it stood
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00:26:11,431 --> 00:26:14,193
with everything in it.
472
00:26:14,538 --> 00:26:17,196
So far, I'm not finding anything
473
00:26:17,541 --> 00:26:21,718
that isn't what Christy bought.
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00:26:22,926 --> 00:26:25,307
So pictures are still up.
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00:26:25,653 --> 00:26:28,932
I ended up finding
the check stub
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00:26:29,035 --> 00:26:32,591
for the life insurance policy,
showing where it was cashed.
477
00:26:33,764 --> 00:26:38,527
I ended up finding an itinerary
for a flight.
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00:26:38,907 --> 00:26:42,393
That was
to the Massachusetts area
479
00:26:42,497 --> 00:26:45,604
for January 2015.
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00:26:46,328 --> 00:26:48,917
And I realized
the girl from Massachusetts
481
00:26:49,021 --> 00:26:50,885
was on the phone record.
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00:26:52,127 --> 00:26:54,164
[Patricia] When we put
all these pieces together,
483
00:26:54,267 --> 00:26:56,373
it just seemed like
there was a lot of pre-planning.
484
00:26:58,133 --> 00:27:02,241
That's when I found
a box in the basement.
485
00:27:05,313 --> 00:27:07,108
The box had "Do not open."
486
00:27:08,661 --> 00:27:10,698
I'm a bad person...
487
00:27:29,717 --> 00:27:33,513
No, I haven't seen this
since the night we went there.
488
00:27:33,617 --> 00:27:34,722
[Katrina] I'm alone
in the basement
489
00:27:34,825 --> 00:27:36,068
and I'm whispering to myself.
490
00:27:36,171 --> 00:27:39,934
I don't know. I'm scared of it.
491
00:27:43,385 --> 00:27:45,042
I saw white powder
and that freaked me out too
492
00:27:45,146 --> 00:27:46,803
'cause it was
all over the floor.
493
00:27:47,182 --> 00:27:50,772
The bags had drug
paraphernalia in it.
494
00:27:50,876 --> 00:27:54,673
There was stuff on it.
There's tinfoil.
495
00:27:54,776 --> 00:27:57,468
To us, that was like
the lightbulb went off.
496
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:03,026
Jason was using drugs
in the basement
497
00:28:03,129 --> 00:28:05,373
of the house that my sister
was found in.
498
00:28:07,133 --> 00:28:11,068
[Kathy] But it's information,
fill in the blanks,
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00:28:11,172 --> 00:28:14,382
that we were trying
to get the authorities
500
00:28:14,485 --> 00:28:17,834
to use, to substantiate,
501
00:28:17,937 --> 00:28:21,803
to move forward,
or somehow get the case
502
00:28:22,010 --> 00:28:24,185
more active than it had been.
503
00:28:24,495 --> 00:28:26,463
And the fact that the police
were doing nothing
504
00:28:26,566 --> 00:28:28,016
stymied everything.
505
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:31,192
At that point, everything with
Davison Police Department
506
00:28:31,295 --> 00:28:32,883
basically just died.
507
00:28:33,539 --> 00:28:36,611
[Katrina] We were frustrated
with the authorities.
508
00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:40,995
We believed that they
didn't want to admit
509
00:28:41,098 --> 00:28:44,999
there not being an investigation
done efficiently.
510
00:28:46,448 --> 00:28:49,693
[James] For us, this is not
something that would go away.
511
00:28:50,211 --> 00:28:51,902
It's not like a year into it,
512
00:28:52,006 --> 00:28:55,216
we just go, "Ah, well,
forget about it."
513
00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:56,286
We couldn't do that
514
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:58,253
because, at the end of this,
if you don't do
515
00:28:58,357 --> 00:29:02,430
everything that you can do,
how are you gonna feel?
516
00:29:03,051 --> 00:29:05,778
[Katrina] And so I was
continuing to research
517
00:29:05,882 --> 00:29:07,711
everyone and everything.
518
00:29:07,815 --> 00:29:10,438
And my mom was emailing,
519
00:29:10,541 --> 00:29:12,578
trying to get anyone to listen
520
00:29:12,681 --> 00:29:15,029
to see about getting movement.
521
00:29:15,684 --> 00:29:18,722
We couldn't think,
for one minute,
522
00:29:18,826 --> 00:29:20,793
that he was drawing
a free breath
523
00:29:21,069 --> 00:29:23,037
and Christy was dead.
524
00:29:24,210 --> 00:29:26,143
It just wasn't gonna happen.
525
00:29:26,903 --> 00:29:28,076
[Christy] Tada!
526
00:29:28,180 --> 00:29:29,457
[James] So you have to
keep the faith.
527
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,425
You always have to have
a hope of justice.
528
00:29:34,324 --> 00:29:38,017
During that time, Jason would
use every opportunity
529
00:29:38,121 --> 00:29:39,743
he could to withhold the girls.
530
00:29:39,847 --> 00:29:41,193
That was his way
of controlling us,
531
00:29:41,296 --> 00:29:44,437
so the goal here was we did not
let him know anything.
532
00:29:45,335 --> 00:29:55,897
[music]
533
00:30:01,385 --> 00:30:04,906
Yes, I'm the one that gets
to hook up the printers,
534
00:30:05,010 --> 00:30:06,252
and fix the printers,
535
00:30:06,356 --> 00:30:08,496
and "My computer's
not working right,"
536
00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:10,084
and all that good stuff.
537
00:30:10,187 --> 00:30:11,533
Whatever the new technology is,
538
00:30:11,637 --> 00:30:14,502
I like to get ahold of it
and see what I can do with it.
539
00:30:16,607 --> 00:30:20,025
So approximately six months
after Christy died,
540
00:30:20,128 --> 00:30:22,027
I get a message from Jason,
541
00:30:22,337 --> 00:30:24,961
telling me
his laptop won't boot.
542
00:30:25,064 --> 00:30:28,067
The real thing he wanted
was all the pictures off.
543
00:30:28,171 --> 00:30:30,242
Well, I took that
as an opportunity
544
00:30:30,345 --> 00:30:31,933
and I said, "Well,
I can take a look at it."
545
00:30:32,037 --> 00:30:34,108
I have some devices here at home
546
00:30:34,211 --> 00:30:35,834
that you basically take
the hard drive out,
547
00:30:35,937 --> 00:30:38,353
and you plug in,
and you can see the data,
548
00:30:38,457 --> 00:30:41,253
as long as
the hard drive's not shot.
549
00:30:41,356 --> 00:30:45,222
So I was able
to get access to his hard drive.
550
00:30:46,258 --> 00:30:48,639
I don't think
Jason's a smart person.
551
00:30:48,743 --> 00:30:50,227
You've heard that saying,
552
00:30:50,331 --> 00:30:52,367
"Not the smartest tool
in the shed"?
553
00:30:52,471 --> 00:30:53,955
He's not in the shed.
554
00:30:54,473 --> 00:30:56,406
He never even made it
to the shed.
555
00:30:58,373 --> 00:31:01,445
I found a weblink
where he had looked up
556
00:31:01,549 --> 00:31:04,414
how a couple of drugs
reacted with each other
557
00:31:04,517 --> 00:31:07,417
with regard to
if you give them to someone,
558
00:31:07,693 --> 00:31:10,661
and just some searches
that were questionable.
559
00:31:10,972 --> 00:31:13,664
I knew Christy would not have
any reason
560
00:31:13,768 --> 00:31:15,252
to wanna look up.
561
00:31:15,356 --> 00:31:17,599
Those just struck me
as criminal.
562
00:31:18,186 --> 00:31:21,155
Started moving the pictures,
and that's when I found
563
00:31:21,258 --> 00:31:23,536
a key picture that showed him
in the basement
564
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,193
of his house on Bay Street
565
00:31:25,711 --> 00:31:28,817
with all kinds of drug
paraphernalia in front of him.
566
00:31:29,473 --> 00:31:32,166
They're having a little
drug party in the basement.
567
00:31:32,649 --> 00:31:36,101
You've got the butane lighters
568
00:31:36,204 --> 00:31:39,449
and you can see the drugs
on a mirror.
569
00:31:41,692 --> 00:31:43,971
So all that did for us
570
00:31:44,074 --> 00:31:45,558
was anything he wanted to say
571
00:31:45,662 --> 00:31:47,560
about, "No, I don't do that,"
572
00:31:47,664 --> 00:31:49,424
well, explain this picture then.
573
00:31:52,048 --> 00:31:54,050
[Katrina] My dad took
that opportunity
574
00:31:54,153 --> 00:31:57,916
to copy the hard drive
and tell the police,
575
00:31:58,019 --> 00:32:00,366
"I have this computer.
It's his.
576
00:32:00,470 --> 00:32:01,781
Do you want it?"
577
00:32:01,885 --> 00:32:05,233
Police said, "Yes, we want it.
Can you drop it off?"
578
00:32:05,337 --> 00:32:09,548
My parents said, "No, we want
you to obtain it legally.
579
00:32:09,651 --> 00:32:11,067
You need a warrant.
580
00:32:11,170 --> 00:32:13,276
So get a warrant.
We'll give you the laptop."
581
00:32:13,586 --> 00:32:15,761
At the same time,
we informed the police
582
00:32:15,864 --> 00:32:17,349
that we had the breast milk.
583
00:32:17,694 --> 00:32:19,247
So they're like, "Well,
we'll get the breast milk
584
00:32:19,351 --> 00:32:21,215
when we get the laptop."
585
00:32:27,255 --> 00:32:29,809
So in the spring of 2015,
586
00:32:29,913 --> 00:32:34,711
they obtained a warrant to get
the laptop and the breast milk.
587
00:32:34,883 --> 00:32:37,265
They gathered
both of those items,
588
00:32:37,369 --> 00:32:40,441
sent them
to the Michigan State Police.
589
00:32:40,717 --> 00:32:44,065
And we, then,
for the next three months,
590
00:32:44,169 --> 00:32:45,964
the Davison City Police
was telling us,
591
00:32:46,067 --> 00:32:48,518
"We haven't heard anything.
We haven't heard anything."
592
00:32:55,525 --> 00:32:57,941
[James] The reality is
that hard drive
593
00:32:58,045 --> 00:33:00,530
was a six-month wait
in purgatory
594
00:33:00,633 --> 00:33:02,773
because every time I'd go
to the police department,
595
00:33:02,877 --> 00:33:03,947
"Well, we're waiting
on hard drive,
596
00:33:04,051 --> 00:33:05,397
waiting on the hard drive."
597
00:33:06,467 --> 00:33:07,709
[Katrina] I ended up
reaching out
598
00:33:07,813 --> 00:33:10,609
to the Michigan State Police
and saying,
599
00:33:11,058 --> 00:33:12,438
"What happens to the evidence?
600
00:33:12,542 --> 00:33:15,096
How long does it take
to work through?"
601
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,236
I got a call
from one of the head guys
602
00:33:17,340 --> 00:33:18,686
at Michigan State Police,
603
00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:20,688
saying, "We don't know what
you're talking about."
604
00:33:20,791 --> 00:33:23,656
The Michigan State Police
ended up communicating
605
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,762
with the Davison City Police,
606
00:33:25,865 --> 00:33:28,247
and the laptop was found,
607
00:33:28,351 --> 00:33:31,457
and the Davison City Police detective
608
00:33:31,561 --> 00:33:35,289
didn't know how to access
the files in it.
609
00:33:37,981 --> 00:33:39,189
[James] There are
a lot of things
610
00:33:39,293 --> 00:33:41,329
that you can do yourself.
611
00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:44,229
You can't press charges
against someone.
612
00:33:44,332 --> 00:33:46,265
You can't arrest someone.
613
00:33:46,369 --> 00:33:48,302
So if you're wanting the state
614
00:33:48,405 --> 00:33:50,821
to bring charges
against someone,
615
00:33:50,925 --> 00:33:52,271
you can't just go out and say,
616
00:33:52,375 --> 00:33:53,721
"I'm gonna hire a prosecutor
617
00:33:53,824 --> 00:33:55,999
and I'm gonna go
after somebody."
618
00:33:56,379 --> 00:33:58,484
It's totally up to their time.
619
00:33:58,933 --> 00:34:01,280
[Katrina] The city of Davison
police department
620
00:34:01,384 --> 00:34:03,248
stopped investigating
621
00:34:03,351 --> 00:34:07,148
because the death certificate
stated "accident."
622
00:34:10,772 --> 00:34:14,293
[James] You cannot expect
somebody else to do it.
623
00:34:14,397 --> 00:34:17,158
Even if you have
a top-notch police force
624
00:34:17,262 --> 00:34:19,057
that's just all over it,
625
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,438
I don't think any of that
means that you
626
00:34:21,542 --> 00:34:24,027
can just back off
and let them do it.
627
00:34:24,407 --> 00:34:27,099
It's still something
that you have to do
628
00:34:27,203 --> 00:34:30,068
to get the result
that you're wanting at the end.
629
00:34:31,138 --> 00:34:32,242
That's one of the reasons
630
00:34:32,346 --> 00:34:34,417
why we decided
to do the civil case
631
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,867
because, as we looked into it,
632
00:34:36,971 --> 00:34:39,215
we realized we do control this.
633
00:34:40,043 --> 00:34:41,838
[Katrina] We had the information
634
00:34:41,941 --> 00:34:46,014
of his communication
with the other phone numbers
635
00:34:46,118 --> 00:34:49,121
up until Christy had passed.
636
00:34:49,501 --> 00:34:54,230
We had the search results
from the laptop.
637
00:34:54,333 --> 00:34:57,681
We had the photograph of Jason
638
00:34:57,785 --> 00:35:00,270
having drug paraphernalia
in front of him.
639
00:35:00,374 --> 00:35:04,516
And we had the video
of the home,
640
00:35:04,619 --> 00:35:08,313
showing drug paraphernalia
in a box in the home
641
00:35:08,416 --> 00:35:10,418
that Christy was found in.
642
00:35:10,522 --> 00:35:14,042
We had a plethora
of information.
643
00:35:14,146 --> 00:35:16,114
And we had the breast milk.
644
00:35:19,393 --> 00:35:21,947
So we filed
a wrongful death suit
645
00:35:22,050 --> 00:35:23,638
against Jason.
646
00:35:28,919 --> 00:35:32,406
Our main reason was not for
the financial end of it,
647
00:35:32,509 --> 00:35:35,961
but to get Jason on a stand
and testifying.
648
00:35:36,203 --> 00:35:37,445
We wanted him in front
of somebody,
649
00:35:37,549 --> 00:35:39,067
talking about the case.
650
00:35:39,171 --> 00:35:41,829
We also... We also had tried
651
00:35:41,932 --> 00:35:45,004
the Freedom of Information Act
multiple times
652
00:35:45,246 --> 00:35:46,765
to no avail.
653
00:35:46,868 --> 00:35:48,629
And it was an avenue
654
00:35:48,732 --> 00:35:50,700
to get us information.
655
00:35:50,803 --> 00:35:51,977
We wanted to make sure
656
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,152
there wasn't
any additional evidence
657
00:35:54,255 --> 00:35:57,189
that was just going to
end up disappearing.
658
00:35:57,638 --> 00:35:59,985
[Patricia] I think there were
people along the way
659
00:36:00,088 --> 00:36:03,402
that had doubt just because
of the time that passed.
660
00:36:03,747 --> 00:36:06,129
It wasn't a matter
of what evidence we collected
661
00:36:06,233 --> 00:36:07,924
or what information we had.
662
00:36:08,476 --> 00:36:11,030
It was just, "Okay,
well, it's been four years.
663
00:36:11,134 --> 00:36:13,792
It's not gonna happen
if it hasn't happened already."
664
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,415
And we just kept pushing.
665
00:36:22,387 --> 00:36:23,629
[music]
666
00:36:23,733 --> 00:36:26,287
[James] With this case,
civil case,
667
00:36:26,391 --> 00:36:28,427
we were able to push it.
668
00:36:28,531 --> 00:36:30,326
We were able
to use subpoena power.
669
00:36:30,429 --> 00:36:32,086
We were able to get people in
670
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:34,157
and get them to answer
a line of questions
671
00:36:34,261 --> 00:36:36,884
that we were involved
with creating.
672
00:36:36,987 --> 00:36:39,197
So from that point forward,
673
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:42,890
we actually felt
like we were making progress.
674
00:36:46,721 --> 00:36:50,380
One of the depositions
from a former co-worker
675
00:36:50,484 --> 00:36:52,313
at United Plastics
676
00:36:52,417 --> 00:36:55,247
was that Jason hired somebody
677
00:36:55,351 --> 00:36:57,284
to shoot Christy
678
00:36:57,629 --> 00:37:01,115
and make it look
like a random drive-by.
679
00:37:02,047 --> 00:37:04,981
[James] He had asked co-workers
to murder Christy.
680
00:37:05,257 --> 00:37:07,363
That is solicitation of murder.
681
00:37:07,777 --> 00:37:11,229
We listened to the deposition
of Leah Miller,
682
00:37:11,332 --> 00:37:13,231
who's Jason's
live-in girlfriend.
683
00:37:13,334 --> 00:37:15,405
She was saying she'd never seen
Jason do drugs
684
00:37:15,509 --> 00:37:17,545
and she was not aware
of Jason doing drugs.
685
00:37:17,649 --> 00:37:20,168
And in this picture,
both of them are sitting there,
686
00:37:20,272 --> 00:37:21,756
and it's like drug heaven.
687
00:37:27,486 --> 00:37:29,316
[Katrina] At the end
of the deposition,
688
00:37:29,419 --> 00:37:33,492
the medical examiner
ultimately changed the status
689
00:37:33,596 --> 00:37:39,533
from a self-induced overdose
to homicide.
690
00:37:42,260 --> 00:37:44,814
That felt like validation.
691
00:37:47,437 --> 00:37:49,784
The civil case
then goes to Jason.
692
00:37:49,888 --> 00:37:50,958
He has two choices.
693
00:37:51,061 --> 00:37:54,651
He can agree and sign it
that he caused the issue
694
00:37:54,755 --> 00:37:59,035
or he can say,
"I don't wanna sign it.
695
00:37:59,138 --> 00:38:00,243
Let's go to court,"
696
00:38:00,347 --> 00:38:02,072
and he can get up
in front of a jury.
697
00:38:02,176 --> 00:38:03,246
He did not do that.
698
00:38:03,350 --> 00:38:05,766
He signed
that he was responsible
699
00:38:05,869 --> 00:38:06,974
for Christy's death.
700
00:38:12,462 --> 00:38:16,432
So in August, 2019,
we got called
701
00:38:16,535 --> 00:38:19,124
to the state police
for an update.
702
00:38:19,642 --> 00:38:22,610
It was in that meeting
that we heard
703
00:38:22,714 --> 00:38:28,306
"Jason Harris has been arrested
and is in custody."
704
00:38:30,515 --> 00:38:32,413
[James] The three charges
that he had
705
00:38:32,517 --> 00:38:34,622
were capital murder
in the first degree,
706
00:38:34,726 --> 00:38:36,624
means that he planned it.
707
00:38:36,728 --> 00:38:39,317
Second one was
solicitation of murder--
708
00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:41,664
he'd asked co-workers
to murder Christy.
709
00:38:41,767 --> 00:38:45,875
And the third was murder
with a controlled substance
710
00:38:45,978 --> 00:38:48,326
because it was heroin
that he had given her.
711
00:38:49,603 --> 00:38:51,363
While there was
some initial relief
712
00:38:51,467 --> 00:38:53,641
that he had been arrested,
713
00:38:53,952 --> 00:38:55,505
it was brief
714
00:38:55,609 --> 00:38:58,888
because the other thing
that pops into your head is,
715
00:38:58,991 --> 00:39:01,062
what about our granddaughters?
Where are they?
716
00:39:01,166 --> 00:39:04,065
[Patricia] Yeah, because if
a jury said not guilty,
717
00:39:04,169 --> 00:39:06,136
we'd probably never see
those girls again.
718
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:07,517
[James] Yeah, yeah.
719
00:39:07,621 --> 00:39:10,106
We really weren't safe
when he was arrested.
720
00:39:10,209 --> 00:39:12,039
We needed to hear guilty.
721
00:39:15,870 --> 00:39:17,493
[James] We were at the trial.
722
00:39:17,596 --> 00:39:20,012
The Genessee County
prosecutor said
723
00:39:20,116 --> 00:39:21,738
that they believed that Jason
724
00:39:21,842 --> 00:39:24,258
put heroin in her cereal
and fed her cereal,
725
00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:25,501
which caused her death.
726
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,296
[Katrina] The expert testified
and said
727
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,437
that if it was in cereal,
728
00:39:30,678 --> 00:39:32,577
it would've been tasteless
729
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,752
because the sugar
would overcompensate
730
00:39:35,856 --> 00:39:38,962
the bitter taste
that heroin has.
731
00:39:39,791 --> 00:39:41,206
[Patricia] And the breast milk
was evidence
732
00:39:41,309 --> 00:39:43,415
used by the prosecutor.
733
00:39:44,036 --> 00:39:46,176
Results of the breast milk
came up clean.
734
00:39:46,384 --> 00:39:47,902
There was nothing in it.
735
00:39:48,627 --> 00:39:51,043
[James] And what that meant was
we had proven
736
00:39:51,147 --> 00:39:53,045
Christy could not have been
doing drugs.
737
00:39:59,258 --> 00:40:02,054
[Katrina] The verdict happened
seven years after her death.
738
00:40:02,434 --> 00:40:04,022
When the verdict was read,
739
00:40:04,125 --> 00:40:08,889
I had Patricia to my left,
my dad to my right,
740
00:40:08,992 --> 00:40:11,512
my best friend
directly behind me.
741
00:40:12,064 --> 00:40:16,517
And when they said
the first "guilty,"
742
00:40:16,793 --> 00:40:20,107
I felt Tricia begin to cry.
743
00:40:20,694 --> 00:40:24,249
I felt my dad start shaking
from tears,
744
00:40:24,352 --> 00:40:27,286
and my best friend
hit me on the back.
745
00:40:27,390 --> 00:40:31,981
And with every single "guilty,"
she was hitting me.
746
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,399
[James] The verdict was guilty
on all counts
747
00:40:36,572 --> 00:40:38,574
which was very emotional.
748
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,716
Jason Harris was sentenced to
life in prison without parole.
749
00:40:43,233 --> 00:40:45,719
So that means
he will die in a penitentiary.
750
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,276
[Patricia] It was validating.
751
00:40:51,379 --> 00:40:54,624
It was a rush of emotions.
752
00:40:55,211 --> 00:40:57,247
The judge said everything
we thought and felt
753
00:40:57,351 --> 00:40:58,801
over the past seven years.
754
00:40:58,904 --> 00:41:00,319
He got it.
755
00:41:00,837 --> 00:41:03,599
Finally, after seven years,
somebody got it.
756
00:41:04,669 --> 00:41:06,878
I feel like justice was served.
757
00:41:08,293 --> 00:41:12,055
[Katrina] There was
always hope for justice.
758
00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:17,923
We never stopped investigating
because the four of us,
759
00:41:18,303 --> 00:41:20,754
we have girls
that need to be taken care of.
760
00:41:21,824 --> 00:41:24,033
And that is at the forefront.
761
00:41:28,727 --> 00:41:31,937
If I could say anything
to Christy,
762
00:41:32,455 --> 00:41:34,664
I don't know
if I would say anything.
763
00:41:35,285 --> 00:41:37,909
I'd probably just wanna sit
and watch a movie.
764
00:41:40,843 --> 00:41:42,672
Just be in the presence
765
00:41:42,948 --> 00:41:45,433
'cause it's not like I have to
tell her I love her
766
00:41:45,537 --> 00:41:47,056
'cause I know she knew it.
767
00:41:49,610 --> 00:41:52,786
[Kathy] Christy was
a mother to me at times
768
00:41:52,889 --> 00:41:55,340
as much as she was her sisters,
769
00:41:55,547 --> 00:41:57,273
as much as she was her children.
770
00:41:57,376 --> 00:42:00,621
And she lived to be
the mother of her children,
771
00:42:00,863 --> 00:42:04,867
her own children, her babies.
772
00:42:05,764 --> 00:42:08,146
[James] The biggest thing
that I wanna say to her
773
00:42:08,456 --> 00:42:10,907
is how proud I was of her
as a mother,
774
00:42:11,701 --> 00:42:14,083
how proud I was to be her dad.
775
00:42:15,325 --> 00:42:18,328
I miss her. I think
about her all the time.
776
00:42:19,364 --> 00:42:24,231
[music]
777
00:42:25,439 --> 00:42:37,555
[music]
778
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:58,437
Burton:
There were four victims
779
00:42:58,541 --> 00:43:00,370
put in barrels out here
in the woods.
780
00:43:00,474 --> 00:43:01,958
Announcer:
On the next episode of
781
00:43:02,062 --> 00:43:04,651
"True Crime Story:
Citizen Detective"...
782
00:43:04,754 --> 00:43:08,827
These little girls and
their mother were just nameless.
783
00:43:08,931 --> 00:43:11,002
Why is nobody looking for them?
784
00:43:11,105 --> 00:43:13,832
I started searching anything
that might lead
785
00:43:13,936 --> 00:43:16,421
to the identity
of the victims.
786
00:43:16,524 --> 00:43:18,423
I'm like, "Oh, my God.
787
00:43:18,526 --> 00:43:22,945
Announcer: "True Crime Story:
Citizen Detective."
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