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UFOs with extraordinary capabilities are present in our skies,

according to a team of former US Government insiders.

This program features military eyewitnesses

describing these unidentified craft for the first time.

Coming up on Unidentified.

Before I knew it, I had these objects

raining out of the sky.

It was raining UFOs.

It wasn't an event.

It was events.

A helicopter arrived.

They requested all the data recording.

There's things right off Catalina

that the US military continue to encounter.

We don't know what they are.

We have an obligation to try to figure it out.

We are getting our asses kicked.

If these things are hostile, then we're screwed.

The Pentagon has confirmed the existence

of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program

that studied UFOs and they released video.

It's a whole fleet of them.

My gosh!

For eight years, Lue Elizondo

ran a secret UFO program for the US military.

But in 2017, he quit in protest.

I put my entire future on the line

because I believe in what I believe in.

Now he's joined an elite group

of former government insiders.

Their mission, reveal what they say

is the truth about UFOs.

US airspace is being violated

by vehicles of unknown origin with advanced capabilities.

It's frightening.

This is real and we're gonna

get to the bottom of it.

Get your government to do what it's supposed to do,

find out what this is.

Wake up!

This is real.

Wake up!

The gentleman we're gonna talk to today,

his name is Kevin Day.

He was onboard the USS Princeton

the day of the Nimitz incident,

and he's now coming forward to say I saw something.

I experienced something.

I witnessed something that was remarkable.

It'd be really interesting if he corroborates

some of the pilot's testimony.

Kevin Day is the very first person

who noticed these anomalous things in the sky.

The further away we got from the city

and the more remote it became,

the more I realized that this is a person

who decided to get away,

and get away for a long time.

Lou Elizondo and Tom DeLonge

are on their way to interview

a third military eye witness

to an alleged mass UFO sighting,

a Navy veteran who says he has critical

new information about the event.

Hello. Good day, sir.

You must be Lou. Yeah, I'm Lou. How are you, sir?

Come on in, guys.

Thanks. This is Tom.

How are you, bud?

Hi Tom, nice to meet you as well.

I didn't know you were at the Topgun Course.

Yeah.

The air controllers go through school with the pilots,

getting into the fight and back without getting shot down.

Kevin Day was the Chief Radar

Specialist on the USS Princeton.

Kevin Day was a senior enlisted guy in the Navy,

and you do not get the rank he got to

unless you're very, very good.

The intent of this interview is to get your perspectives.

Of course, we don't wanna do it

at the sacrifice of national security,

so I won't ask you anything classified.

I won't ask you to provide any information

that's classified or sensitive.

So from beginning to end, tell me your story.

I guess this is the best way to jump in.

We were off the coast of San Diego,

Nimitz Strike Group getting ready to go on deployment.

The Princeton was part

of the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group

on a training mission Southwest of San Diego

when Kevin Day dispatched two pilots

to intercept an unidentified craft he picked up on radar.

It didn't fly like an aircraft.

It was about 40 feet long.

It's white.

It has no wings.

It has no rotors.

It has no control surfaces.

It's literally, think of a white Tic Tac.

This image of the Tic Tac shaped object

was captured by an F-18's weapons systems camera.

It was so unnerving because it was so unpredictable.

But the story began four days earlier

when Kevin Day says he started

seeing strange tracks on his radar.

Right around the evening of the 10th of November,

all these contacts were popping up in my radar coverage

right off Catalina Island up by Los Angeles.

At first there was like 10 or 12 objects.

Watching them on display was like

watching the snow fall in the sky.

Day says the ship's system

tracked the unidentified objects,

dropping down from the upper atmosphere

and then flying south in what

appeared to be an organized formation

at an altitude of 28,000 feet.

Their relative position didn't change from each other.

It went real slow, 28,000 feet at 100 knots,

which is extremely weird.

Usually things that high don't travel that slowly,

'cause they'll fall out of the sky.

Do me a favor.

On this piece of paper, pretend this is the screen, okay?

Sure. Tell me what you're seeing.

So you got the carrier, you got the Princeton,

the Chaffee and the Higgins.

And up here by Catalina Island,

I see these objects like this,

look kinda just like that,

and they're all going 100 knots, tracking to the south.

If you added 'em all up,

there was well over 100 contacts.

According to Kevin Day,

an entire fleet of UFOs was flying unimpeded

through the Navy's exercise warning area off the west coast.

The Princeton was equipped with the military's

most sophisticated radar system.

Known as the Aegis SPY-1, it provides a 3D,

360-degree view of the entire battle space.

The USS Princeton, if you will,

is the eyes and the ears for the battle group.

The SPY-1 can simultaneously

track hundreds of air contacts

and can identify virtually anything that flies.

It eliminated the fact they could have been

friendly aircraft of some kind,

or enemy aircraft of some kind.

Nothing really fit.

There's no recognized signature

that you're picking up? Nope.

It's becoming evident that these things are really...

UFOs. They are unidentified flying objects.

I didn't have a better word for it.

Right.

I was just chompin' at the bit.

I just wanted to intercept these things.

So Captain JL Smith comes down into combat

and I said sir, I think we should intercept these things.

I reached out and I hooked one of them

on the large-screen display, but all of a sudden

this object drops 28,000 feet,

down to the surface of the ocean,

and I figured it out later.

It was at .78 seconds.

If Kevin Day's calculations are correct,

the object he saw would have been moving

at the astounding speed of 24,000 miles per hour,

over 30 times the speed of sound.

Aye-aye can't go overhead Mother Eagle seven.

So the captain said yeah, let's intercept one,

and I was like hell yeah.

After tracking the strange objects for days,

on November 14th, 2004

the Princeton's radar group finally took control.

We grab one of the flights

that was doin' a check flight on the carrier.

It just happened to be Commander Fravor's flight.

The Princeton control comes up and says,

"Hey, Fast Eagle 110, this is Poisoned."

"We're gonna suspend training."

"We have real-world tasking."

Commander David Fravor and his wingman pilot

had been on a training run

when they're receive the order to intercept.

They got into an area, what we call merged plot,

where the pilot is in the visual arena

with whatever they're intercepting.

It was so unpredictable.

High G, rapid velocity, rapid acceleration,

so you're wondering how can I possible fight this?

And all of a sudden over the radio we hear,

"Oh my god, oh my god!

"I'm engaged, I'm engaged!"

I'm thinking I'm gonna be watching

a disaster here.

Day says he watched

as the Tic Tac escaped the fighter jets,

climbing with an extraordinary burst of acceleration.

Right back up to 28,000 feet.

Day says the dramatic encounter

was just the beginning.

At that point, forget about your other aircraft.

They're launching off a carrier, and all these other intercepts are happening.

One of the jets was able

to capture this video that would

go on to make headlines around the world.

Before I knew it, I had these objects

raining out of the sky.

It was raining UFOs.

Coming up on Unidentified.

These things were going somewhere.

They fell off my radar envelope

down off the coast of Baja, California.

Okay.

I can tell the lat and long.

Now all those interceptors are happening

Before I knew it, I had these objects

raining out of the sky

It was raining UFOs.

For eight years,

Lue Elizondo, run Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program

Or AATIP.

A secret Pentagon unit,

that investigated UFOs

Now, he's working with a team of former

government insiders assembled by Tom Delonge.

Their mission? Reveal what

they say is the truth about UFOs.

They're starting with the Nimitz Incident

A full story of which has never been told...

Until now.

I'm telling you, it was the most humbling experience of my life.

I'm telling you, it was the most humbling experience of my life.

This former Navy radar specialist

Claims he watched an entire fleet of Tic Tac UFOs

evade Navy F-18's

Not only do you have,

the pilots seen this Tic Tac

but you have another eye witness

that is 20 miles away in another ship

You have to ask yourself,

Are the radars being spooked or cameras faulty?

Every time this things get in the visual arena,

They fall out of the sky.

Wait tall, the interceptor had left, and they'd pop right back up to

28000 feet, right back where they were, and continue going 100 nots.

It was as if,

they want to be left alone.

Later on shore,

Kevin Day says he spoke with Commander David Fravor,

a pilot who went head-to-head with the Tic Tac.

I was asking him what the hell, man?

What happened?

He said "Mako I gotta tell ya,

that thing kicked my ass."

And that kinda spurred me.

I said okay, that's enough.

I'm gonna write an after action report.

I gotta document this.

But when Day says

he tried to document what happened,

he searched the ship's computers for the radar data

and communication recordings.

Well, strangely enough all the comms were gone.

All of our external communications

for that whole intercept were gone,

which is supposed to be impossible.

So either someone took the old disk and replaced it

or somehow it was actually erased.

But the time code is there. Yeah.

But the recordings are not. Right.

So I'm trying to understand. Burned out.

Yeah, that's really... Wow.

I don't have a good answer.

I don't know.

Day claims the files were gone,

but he was able to write

down a critical piece of information.

These things were going somewhere.

They fell off my radar envelope

down off the coast of Baja, California.

Okay.

There's a little group of islands

down off the coast and right there they disappeared.

Several hundred miles.

They are all going to that same lat and long?

They all went to the same spot.

I can tell you the lat and long.

The geographic coordinates

where Day says the Tic Tacs disappeared

off his radar lead here,

180 miles south of San Diego, off the Mexican coast.

Kevin Day adds a layer of expertise

that we didn't have before.

With those electronic eyes, Kevin Day can see things

that the naked eye cannot,

and he adds an entirely new dimension to this investigation.

Did the captain seem concerned or agitated or...

What was his reaction?

He, I can only guess that he was thinking,

but he was, didn't seem concerned at all.

I think he was trying to resist

the idea that they were UFOs.

Mmm-hmm.

Why?Let me ask you, why does anybody in the Navy, ah

want to resist the idea of UFOs?

'Cause they don't wanna get scoffed at.

They don't wanna get made fun of,

especially for a guy trying to make admiral, you know?

Sure.

There's a lot of emotion

and there's a lot of feelings behind this issue.

There's a lot of stigma.

But it was this guy, Kevin Day,

who had the courage to come forward

and say "boss, I don't know what these are."

"Let's figure this out."

You know, I was looking around, I was like:

All the years, all the money,

and all the expertise, and all the talent,

everyone around me in this strike group,

and there's nothing we can do.

If these things are hostile, then we're screwed.

I'm telling you, it was the most humbling experience of my life.

This is a guy who's been long retired,

and you just look at him.

And he still, I mean, he still has the Navy haircut.

He still presses his shirts.

I mean man, the guy's still in the Navy, man.

He's still serving his country.

Thank you, my friend. Thank you.

You're welcome. Outstanding.

And I mean it sincerely.

It's been an honor and a pleasure.

Out of all the things I've heard about the Nimitz

I have not heard there are up to a hundred craft.

That absolutely blew my mind.

A Top Gun graduate using the most advanced technology

...It doesn't get better... on Earth.

It doesn't get better.

And he's the one that called for the intercept.

Yeah, and you know what else too?

He's got the lat longs he provided us

on where these things may have went.

We don't know if they've kind just fell off the radar

or if there's something there,

but either way we gotta check it out.

Back in Southern California,

Elizondo is updating the team

on his extraordinary interview with Kevin Day.

Tom and I went to go visit an individual

who was in the radar room at the time

of the Tic Tac event.

He was the senior most individual

responsible for that radar.

So here's the bottom line.

It wasn't an event.

It was events,

and it occurred

over a longer period of time than we thought.

The other thing that was really interesting

is he says there's data somewhere,

at some other server, and

he goes, "Find that data."

Former Deputy Assistant Secretary

of Defense for Intelligence, Chris Mellon,

has tried to track down the records

from the Nimitz fleet for that week.

One of the frustrating,

but very intriguing things about this

is that when I suggested to someone

on the Hill that they try to obtain the deck logs

for the Princeton for that date,

the National Archive said Princeton logs

for that date are missing.

Those deck logs should be there,

and we know officially now that they're not.

And it's not due to classification.

But...

Unfortunate, because if they had been there

that might be another way

to corroborate some of these reporters.

What I would like to do in this case is

be able to corroborate this

with another witness from Right, absolutely.

the radar room. Yeah.

I think it would be much to our advantage

to find a second source.

With the deck logs allegedly missing,

Kevin Day's testimony may hold a key

to unlocking a larger mystery,

one Elizondo was unable to answer

when he was at

the Pentagon.

Why were these strange craft appearing

just off the west coast,

and where exactly were they heading?

It takes week, but Elizondo was able

to find another witness from USS Princeton,

a radar technician who served with Kevin Day.

There was nothing usual about this, man.

I mean, there was nothing normal about the whole situation.

Wow.

Let me ask you something.

Would you be available to talk to you in person?

Yeah.

Coming up on Unidentified.

We tracked it going from 30,000 feet down to sea level,

like within no time at all.

Sonar said they got a hit.

My hope is that we'll make a serious,

credible effort to acquire and analyze data

which could tell us whether this UFO issue

actually does involve some other civilization,

or reveals a breakthrough on the part of adversaries,

or even potentially an ally.

It's just sort of inexcusable to me

that we don't make the small amount

of effort required to answer such a profound question.

Hey, Gary. Hey.

Former Deputy Assistant Secretary

of Defense for Intelligence, Chris Mellon,

is meeting the fourth Navy eyewitness

from the USS Nimitz UFO encounter.

The more eyewitnesses you can have, the better.

We were successful in setting

up a meeting with this individual.

And so Chris Mellon, being a former

very senior person in the Department of Defense,

I knew he would have some really good perspectives.

Hope you like coffee strong.

Oh, thanks so much.

Gary Voorhis was a technician

onboard the Nimitz's radar ship, the USS Princeton.

He's never spoken publicly about the strange

events of November 2004,

and what he has to say might provide

a missing piece of critical information.

Well, Gary, thanks again

so much for taking the time.

Yeah, without a doubt, it's definitely...

There is something going on.

What was the first indication

something unusual was occurring?

The first indication that I heard.

Voorhis' story begins four days

before the pilots intercepted the UFO.

The SPY guys came out and was like oh, we got clutter.

The SPY guys in terms of the radar systems?

Yeah, the guys that specifically work

on just the SPY-1 Bravo Radar,

they came down and asked me

to reset all the computer systems.

The Princeton had already

picked up three strange objects

their Aegis SPY-1 Radar couldn't identify.

Thinking that the system was malfunctioning,

the technicians rebooted the computers.

Brought it all back up

and lo and behold,

they're there still.

And then we started getting confirmation

from the other ships that they were seeing it.

What were you seeing at that point?

We were just seeing three tracks.

Three tracks.

Were they hovering?

Sometimes they were only going a couple hundred knots.

Sometimes they seemed stationary.

Sometimes they moved relatively fast.

The way that they kind went around us,

it was almost like they were just monitoring us.

Senior Radar Specialist Kevin Day

says he watched as many as 100 of the mysterious craft

fly through the Navy's airspace

with impunity over the coming days.

It was raining UFOs.

Finally, on the fourth day,

he scrambled two F-18s to intercept one of them.

And when one of the pilots arrived on the scene,

she says she spotted a single UFO hovering over the water.

There was something in the water.

There was a churning.

We were all clamoring to get on the radio.

What the fuck, is that?

We tracked it going from 30,000 feet down to sea level,

like within no time at all.

And the sonar said they got a hit.

Voorhis claims the ship's sonar operators

had seen something else extraordinary.

The object plunged into the ocean

and it accelerated to a speed

twice as fast as the Navy's fastest attack submarine.

According to one of the sonar guys,

they were going 70-plus knots under the water.

The USS Louisville,

a 6,000-ton nuclear-powered submarine,

was patrolling just below the surface.

Voorhis says he spoke with the sub sonar team

to try to understand what was happening.

You heard firsthand from the sonar technicians

that they got a hit? Yeah.

Do you have names of those individuals.

None of them want to talk about it. You've reached out to them? They don't want--

Pretty much, you got who will say anything.

Okay.

And it was only one sonar guy I could get ahold of,

and he doesn't wanna go on record.

He doesn't want anything to do with it.

As a matter of fact, he had asked

me not to contact him ever again.

Let's talk about how

the tapes are normally handled.

Well, strangely enough, all the comms were gone.

Day claims the Princeton's communications

for that week were erased, but he doesn't know how or why.

Voorhis says something even stranger happened.

A helicopter arrived.

People got off the helicopter.

They came in and then they

requested all the data recording.

And right after that, I was requested

to hand over all the data recording tapes,

and anything that wasn't recorded on during the event

I was to erase,

just in case there was anything on it.

And um, and why was that?

Were you provided an explanation?

No, no. I wouldn't have been privy to any explanation.

It was just expected of me to do it.

How unusual was this request to destroy, erase this data?

It was completely unprecedented.

I'd never been asked to destroy data, ever.

And there was no scuttlebutt

about where these tapes were going

No.

and for what purpose, or anything like that?

Basically it was just understood that they were going.

Gary Voorhis corroborates

important details of the other

eyewitness's dramatic accounts.

But his story raises an even more troubling possibility,

that the Navy was involved in a coverup

of a potential threat to national security.

It's very curious, rather conspiratorial almost,

the idea that a helicopter landed

and he was asked to download the data and hand it off.

That raises a whole host of questions

about what's really going on behind the scenes.

The department of defense did not respond to repeated requests

for comment on the claims made by Kevin Day and Gary Voorhis.

I am aware that there are other incidents

that occurred involving military assets

in and around this area.

Before the USS Nimitz, and frankly after the USS Nimitz.

So the question is how significant were they

and is there an explanation for what is being

encountered in and around this area?

Lue Elizondo is on Santa Catalina Island,

47 miles off the coast of Los Angeles.

He's come here searching for answers

to why a fleet of UFOs

allegedly first appeared off the islands shores.

I'm looking on the radar

and up here by Catalina Island

I see these objects like this.

They're all tracking to the south.

Navy Radar Specialist Kevin Day

told Elizondo a mysterious fleet of UFOs

was first tracked over in the Catalina Channel,

and then flew south through the Navy's training area.

I had these objects raining

out of the sky.

Why is there an interest here

in and around these waters?

Catalina Island, apparently it is attracting these UAPs

for whatever reason we don't know yet.

Hi. Pleasure to meet you.

Very good to meet you.

Parts of Catalina are off limits to the public,

so Elizondo has met up with Hillary Holt

who works for the island's Conservancy.

See how Catalina's here?

So this area, called the Continental Borderland,

is kind of this hodgepodge

of continental crust and oceanic crust.

Everything to the west is on the Pacific tectonic plate.

Don't think I could ever get tired of that view.

Catalina was formed millions of years ago

when two giant plates of the Earth's crust

collided violently.

That geology helped shape the

three thousand foot deep channel

that isolates Catalina from the main land.

This is an actual geology map.

That pink backbone right there, is the tallest

backbone on the island.

Interesting, okay and so wildlife.

I know it sounds like a crazy question to ask but,

are there any large indigenous birds?

Condors anything like that you in South America,

around here?

I mean, my point being Yeah.

Is it normal to see a flock of 50 birds

heading down South.

I don't know if I see flocks of 50 birds,

but absolutely tons of migrants come through here.

And, there is a lot of history to be told.

Both around Blackjack here, as well as the airport.

We're already, gonna be at 2000 feet.

You pick up something on radar, well you're not

taking off from the ground you're picking up something from here.

We know that there's these weird refraction phenomena

that occur with radar over the, over the water.

Sometimes radar signals bounce,

and you can be picking something up really really

far away that looks close, or picking up something

really really close that looks far away.

Could some of these tracks that they were picking up

on radar with an image, actually be local aircraft

taking off from the mountain top here on Catalina island?

Is it possible?

Yeah it is.

But is it likely? That's what I'm gonna find out.

And then we are, I believe, if you all wanted

to head down to Little Harbor.

Which it's Little Harbor was where we have the

oldest archeological evidence on the island.

And then we want to head out here

to the Ben Weston overlook.

Which we, there are some old

army signal corps installations.

I would love to see that. Yeah.

Orient me here for a second.

I'm looking here and I feel like

I'm almost surrounded by mountains.

So LAX is over here.

Exactly.

LAX is pretty close.

You got a populated metropolitan area right there.

Back in 2004, US Nimitz Carrier Battle Group

was right out there.

Lights are being picked up in the sky

on radar and visually over there,

most of the time at 30,000 feet coming in over the water.

Sometimes you're literally going from that

side of the sky to that side of the sky

in seconds.

Historically, there have been several events right here.

From a national security perspective,

our job is to own the battle space.

If we don't know what's in the sky

and we don't know what's going on in the water,

then that's a problem.

And there's things that are right around here

and we don't know what they are.

We have an obligation to try to figure it out.

Catalina has a secretive history

that dates back to World War II

when the military built a network of fortifications

to protect against an invasion of the mainland.

There's absolutely different places

across the island where you can find evidence

of past military operations.

And during World War II, Toyon Bay

was a training center for the OSS,

the precursor to the CIA.

You can go down the road and there are old

radio towers and radio bunkers.

Being down here um, is, it just reinforces to me

the idea that Catalina Island is a strategic location

and is a point of interest.

When I was talking with people about doing this show,

even just in the last week,

I had a lot of people say "oh, I've seen something weird.

I've seen something before."

There was something, or is something,

in this area that may be of significant strategic interest.

Now is that what's bringing UAPs?

I don't know.

And unless I look at it for myself, I'll never know.

For decades, Catalina has been a hotspot

for reports of unidentified aerial phenomena.

The most credible sighting was reported by Kelly Johnson,

the founder of Lockheed Martin's legendary Skunk Works division

and the mastermind of the SR-71 Blackbird.

and the mastermind of the SR-71 Blackbird.

Johnson filed this official report with the Air Force,

in which he and two test pilots describe seeing

a large craft flying north of Catalina.

Kelly was at his ranch and the other

gentlemen were up doing flight tests.

So they saw it from two different

vantage points, which is interesting.

It wasn't just from a single vantage point.

Steve Justice spent 31 years at Skunk Works

as one of its top aviation designers

and is now a key member of Lue Elizondo's team.

In light of Elizondo's Nimitz investigation,

he's taken a fresh look at his predecessor's account.

The most significant part of Kelly's memo

is the fact that it was profound enough

that he felt compelled to write it down

and send it to the Air Force.

That tells me he considered it

to be really, really important.

The Air Force concluding Johnson

saw a rare cloud formation.

Justice says that explanation doesn't make sense.

I've read a number of analyses online

where they conclude it was lenticular clouds or something.

There are some clouds that look that way,

but they don't move that way,

and that's why it sticks in my head.

So what explains the reports

of UFOs in this same area 50 years later?

The answer may lie in Catalina's strategic location.

180 miles north is Vendenberg Air Force Base,

home to some of the military's

most advance aerospace programs,

and recently Elon Musk's private SpaceX rockets.

Due south is the Navy's Whiskey-291 Warning Area,

where the 2004 Nimitz encounter took place.

Could the unidentified craft that appeared near Catalina

be part of a top secret military test

and were the pilots unwitting test subjects?

Bryan Bender was one of the first reporters

to reveal Elizondo's secret UFO program.

There's this reasonable hypothesis

that these are advanced military aircraft

that only a very few number

of government officials know about,

and they're being tested, and they're being seen,

and they're being reported,

and that could explain why the government

sort of doesn't wanna talk about it,

because they wanna shield these secret

military aircraft programs.

One of the pilots who encountered

the Tic Tac-shaped UFO during the Nimitz event

questioned whether what she was seeing

was part of an experimental aircraft test.

When I got back to the ship,

when I was frustrated that nobody was taking it seriously,

one of my theories was were we vectored into a live range?

Was that a submarine that launched

something and was resubmerging?

I have to be careful, 'cause I was part of AATIP

and, you know, I don't wanna give the false conclusion

that I'm trying to find an answer that I already have.

But truth be told, I had access to a lot of information.

I can tell you, there are several

antenna arrays here that are absolutely connected

to some sort of government activity.

So, the question is did they play a role in the 2004 events?

Lou Elizondo has returned

from his mission to Catalina Island.

Brother Steve, how are you?

Good.

Got a few minutes?

Yes.

He's meeting with his team member, Steve Justice,

one of the most respected aviation experts in the US.

Got a couple questions for ya.

As the Director of Advanced Technologies

at Lockheed Martin Skunk Works,

Justice led the highly-classified development

of America's F-117 Nighthawk Stealth Fighter.

Elizondo wants to explore the theory

that what the pilots from the USS Nimitz

and others witness was in fact a top-secret government

test that they hadn't been briefed on.

Steve Justice worked at Lockheed Martin,

which is entrusted with billions of taxpayer dollars

to build some of the most advanced weapon systems in the world.

It's possible in this case that there is some

very secret military aircraft program

that is so secret and is shared with so few people

that Lue Elizondo doesn't know about it.

So Steve, I can't completely eliminate

the fact that those type of velocities

potentially, potentially are achievable

with certain technologies we have.

In the 2004 Nimitz incident,

a Tic Tac-shaped UFO had allegedly reached velocities

as high as 30 times the speed of sound.

Does this technology look like anything

you worked on while you're at Skunk Works,

and could this have been one of those technologies?

No, I'm not gonna talk about anything

I did with Skunk Works.

While his work

at Lockheed Martin is classified,

Justice is aware of a test flight

that happened the same week as the Nimitz incident,

when NASA launched a hypersonic, unmanned craft,

the X-43 Scramjet, in the same airspace.

Well, the X-43's interesting.

You know, the fact that it flew in this timeframe

can make it a suspect.

Let's sit back and analyze it from several perspectives.

Here's a photo from NASA of the X-43,

hanging on the wing of a B-52.

You can see the work crews.

Well, they said they saw a 40-foot vehicle.

Whatever this Tic Tac was was 40 feet,

and that is backed up by radar and the video.

So the speed itself.

The X-43 was hypersonic,

which means it was Mach 5 or above.

So here's what it takes to accelerate.

That's a huge signature, man.

I mean, that's just...

Everybody's gonna see that thing for a hundred miles.

So that, to me, disqualifies.

That's a disqualifying element in and of itself.

What altitude?

Well, here's the strange part.

It was seen at a lot of altitudes,

anywhere between 80,000 feet down to sea level.

Okay.

Hypersonic vehicles that we work on today

wanna be above 50,000 feet.

As we step back and look at all the different

pieces of evidence that we have in this image

that we have from that incident,

you don't see any exhaust plumes,

and they would show up in this type of image.

Um, the shape is wrong, the flight regime,

the point of the sky that it flies is wrong.

How it flies is wrong.

Now the parts that we have right

are some hypersonic velocities.

Without going into specific technologies,

you did a lot of work for the Skunk Works

and I'm just kinda curious.

Does this scenario fit a common pattern

the way you guys test your classified programs?

I'm not even gonna talk about

how we test classified stuff.

It's possible but it means that somebody would know.

Doesn't mean everybody would know,

but some people would know

that you're gonna be operating near that area.

So it's, it's possible.

Um, you know if,

if the admiral in charge didn't make a report,

it could be because

you know it was an operational test.

Not everybody gets to know everything.

I would love it if it turned out

that these were secret US aircraft

that were developed in some remote,

underground facility and that we've achieved

that kind of technological breakthrough.

That would be fabulous.

Here are the reasons that we don't

think that is in fact the case.

We do not operate test aircraft

in the vicinity of carrier battle groups

without some prior coordination.

It would be completely uncharacteristic

of the military to operate

in such a strange, haphazard manner.

If that did happen, it would probably

happen only once.

Those people would be replaced in a hurry.

It's hard to conceive

of a secret military test program

that explains all of these instances,

not just here in The United States but around the world.

I would love it if it turned out to be the case

that these were secret US aircraft

that were developed in some remote underground facility,

and that we've achieved that kind

of technological breakthrough.

That would be fabulous.

Here are the reasons that we don't think

that is in fact the case.

First of all, the videos

that were released were declassified,

and went through a formal declassification process.

If those were secret US aircraft vehicles,

they wouldn't have survived that scrub of that review.

Secondly, we do not operate test aircraft

in the vicinity of carrier battle groups, as a rule.

Certainly not without some prior coordination.

The military is extraordinarily careful

to avoid incidents and mishaps.

So, it would be completely uncharacteristic

of the military to operate in

such a strange, haphazard manner.

Thirdly, myself and my colleagues

have pulled every thread and run every trap.

I was on the committee that reviewed all those programs.

There was nothing like that on the drawing boards when I was in the Pentagon.

Steve worked at the Skunk Works at Lockheed Martin.

He's not aware of anything remotely like this.

Lue ran all the traps in the Pentagon,

checked with the Army, Navy.

Everybody said those are not ours, definitively.

So while we can't prove the negative,

the evidence we have suggests these are not US vehicles.

You've been out on the road a lot, okay?

And it seems like more people are coming forward.

Anything change your mind?

No, it's only reinforced our original position

to be honest with you.

We've come a long way in just eight months.

A real long way.

We have all the pilots that flew that day

that were involved in the alleged

Tic Tac incident have come forward.

I think that's huge.

Lou Elizondo, Tom DeLonge,

Chris Mellon, and the team have made major breakthroughs

in their investigation of the 2004 Tic Tac event.

We've actually learned some more information,

believe it or not, what happened that day,

some very compelling information.

I am delighted that we are able to give voice

to these military personnel and their experiences.

But um, these guys, and what we're up against,

is overcoming this incredible stigma

that surrounds this topic.

The mysterious UFO encounters

over the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group

are finally coming into focus.

The team as corroborated the accounts

of four military eyewitnesses.

Two fighter pilots who say they were sent

to hunt down one of the Tic Tac-shaped UFOs.

We couldn't help but admit that we saw it,

because we all saw it together.

Do we wanna not do anything and just hope they're nice?

And two radar personnel

who say they tracked an entire fleet

of Tic Tacs over the course of four days.

We are getting our assess kicked right here.

According to one of the sonar guys,

they were going 70-plus knots under the water.

They pretty much just went wherever they wanted.

When you look at this problem holistically,

you start seeing patterns emerging.

For over 70 years,

the US military investigated UFO sightings.

In thousands of documents, the UFOs

are often described as saucers or discs,

but there are also reports of shapes

eerily similar to the 40-foot long Tic Tac

the Nimitz pilots encountered.

This 1964 report describes a flying object

shaped like a butane tank

and as long as a telephone pole.

The more similarities we can find,

the more congruences we can identity.

The more congruences we can identity

I think the more we'll be able

to make an honest determination

of what these things are doing.

It wasn't until 2009

that Elizondo says the Pentagon

was able to establish a larger pattern.

In the early stages of AATIP,

we're collecting anything

and everything related to, frankly, this phenomenon.

We had reports coming from the Navy.

We had pilot's reports.

We had gun camera footage.

We had radar returns.

We had investigations that were done by highly-trained people.

Some of the observations began

to really get into focus in 2009.

Former Deputy Assistant

Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, Chris Mellon,

has obtained a briefing document

created by the Pentagon's secret UFO unit.

The presentation contains a global map of hotspots

where US and other military assets encountered UFOs.

This is an example of the kind of data

that is available and hasn't been pulled

because nobody's in charge.

Nobody's analyzing the issues.

The red dots are reported UFO activity,

blue are military facilities.

This official Department of Defense map

has never been released to the public.

Within this large circle is Baja, San Diego,

and then the Navy's exercise operating area

where they conduct fleet exercises.

So here we have a document that says

The United States is defenseless

against a threat that we have identified,

an extraordinary and alarming report.

And here we are 10 years later,

essentially in the same position.

The Pentagon unit suggested the US military

would be unable to defend itself

against the UFO's hyper advanced technology.

Those hotspots were seen

all the way back in 1950.

The fact that we continue to see these things

in our airspace, over our military equities

time and time again, and we still don't know

what it is and where it's coming from,

at this point just throw the white flag up and give up.

The briefing was created

for a presentation to senior defense officials

and warns if the government continues to ignore the threat,

America's adversaries could crack the technology

and develop deadly new weapons

that would disrupt the balance of power.

This is a live activity.

We don't know what it is, even after all this research.

If they are a potential adversary, like Russia or China,

that's made some huge leap in technology,

we better know about it.

Given some of these capabilities that are demonstrated,

they could very easily shut out the lights.

We know this is happening now.

We know it's real.

And until we get some answers, we shouldn't rest easy.

This is not a Navy problem.

This is not an Air Force problem.

This is not an intelligence community problem.

This may be a much bigger, holistic, global problem.

These guys are obsessed.

They spent their life defending the country,

and now they're confronted with a phenomenon.

That potentially could be threatening.

Chris and Lou repeatedly say listen.

I know everybody thinks of little green men,

but we're not there yet.

What we gotta do first is not treat it

as this backwater issue that nobody wants

to touch, nobody wants to look at.

On the next Unidentified.

Kevin Day provided us the latitudes

and the longitudes that these things

seem to be going towards.

We can actually now go to the location

and try to figure out if there's

any type of correlation at all.

This is the part of the Nimitz story

that not only has never been told,

has never really been explored.