1 00:00:00,007 --> 00:00:02,820 UFOs with extraordinary capabilities are present in our skies, 2 00:00:02,845 --> 00:00:05,601 according to a team of former US Government insiders. 3 00:00:05,626 --> 00:00:08,754 This program features military eyewitnesses 4 00:00:08,779 --> 00:00:11,571 describing these unidentified craft for the first time. 5 00:00:12,342 --> 00:00:13,677 Coming up on Unidentified. 6 00:00:14,068 --> 00:00:15,512 Before I knew it, I had these objects 7 00:00:15,512 --> 00:00:17,027 raining out of the sky. 8 00:00:17,691 --> 00:00:18,832 It was raining UFOs. 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:20,957 It wasn't an event. 10 00:00:21,273 --> 00:00:22,607 It was events. 11 00:00:22,632 --> 00:00:24,217 A helicopter arrived. 12 00:00:24,481 --> 00:00:26,122 They requested all the data recording. 13 00:00:26,147 --> 00:00:27,732 There's things right off Catalina 14 00:00:27,757 --> 00:00:30,418 that the US military continue to encounter. 15 00:00:30,443 --> 00:00:31,694 We don't know what they are. 16 00:00:31,719 --> 00:00:34,452 We have an obligation to try to figure it out. 17 00:00:34,477 --> 00:00:36,270 We are getting our asses kicked. 18 00:00:36,295 --> 00:00:38,714 If these things are hostile, then we're screwed. 19 00:00:40,178 --> 00:00:41,789 The Pentagon has confirmed the existence 20 00:00:41,789 --> 00:00:44,542 of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program 21 00:00:44,542 --> 00:00:46,729 that studied UFOs and they released video. 22 00:00:47,343 --> 00:00:49,088 It's a whole fleet of them. 23 00:00:49,113 --> 00:00:50,190 My gosh! 24 00:00:50,999 --> 00:00:52,918 For eight years, Lue Elizondo 25 00:00:52,918 --> 00:00:56,171 ran a secret UFO program for the US military. 26 00:00:56,548 --> 00:00:59,758 But in 2017, he quit in protest. 27 00:00:59,758 --> 00:01:01,304 I put my entire future on the line 28 00:01:01,329 --> 00:01:03,762 because I believe in what I believe in. 29 00:01:03,762 --> 00:01:05,180 Now he's joined an elite group 30 00:01:05,180 --> 00:01:06,849 of former government insiders. 31 00:01:06,849 --> 00:01:09,101 Their mission, reveal what they say 32 00:01:09,101 --> 00:01:10,978 is the truth about UFOs. 33 00:01:10,978 --> 00:01:12,509 US airspace is being violated 34 00:01:12,534 --> 00:01:15,767 by vehicles of unknown origin with advanced capabilities. 35 00:01:17,029 --> 00:01:18,197 It's frightening. 36 00:01:18,311 --> 00:01:19,979 This is real and we're gonna 37 00:01:19,979 --> 00:01:21,068 get to the bottom of it. 38 00:01:21,093 --> 00:01:23,094 Get your government to do what it's supposed to do, 39 00:01:23,119 --> 00:01:24,616 find out what this is. 40 00:01:24,641 --> 00:01:25,437 Wake up! 41 00:01:25,462 --> 00:01:26,468 This is real. 42 00:01:26,493 --> 00:01:27,493 Wake up! 43 00:01:41,276 --> 00:01:42,987 The gentleman we're gonna talk to today, 44 00:01:42,987 --> 00:01:44,279 his name is Kevin Day. 45 00:01:44,279 --> 00:01:46,732 He was onboard the USS Princeton 46 00:01:46,779 --> 00:01:49,240 the day of the Nimitz incident, 47 00:01:49,265 --> 00:01:53,185 and he's now coming forward to say I saw something. 48 00:01:53,210 --> 00:01:54,629 I experienced something. 49 00:01:54,649 --> 00:01:57,318 I witnessed something that was remarkable. 50 00:01:57,318 --> 00:02:00,237 It'd be really interesting if he corroborates 51 00:02:00,237 --> 00:02:02,114 some of the pilot's testimony. 52 00:02:03,591 --> 00:02:05,843 Kevin Day is the very first person 53 00:02:05,843 --> 00:02:08,887 who noticed these anomalous things in the sky. 54 00:02:11,149 --> 00:02:12,817 The further away we got from the city 55 00:02:12,817 --> 00:02:15,153 and the more remote it became, 56 00:02:15,178 --> 00:02:18,014 the more I realized that this is a person 57 00:02:18,039 --> 00:02:19,916 who decided to get away, 58 00:02:21,459 --> 00:02:24,838 and get away for a long time. 59 00:02:24,863 --> 00:02:26,305 Lou Elizondo and Tom DeLonge 60 00:02:26,330 --> 00:02:27,616 are on their way to interview 61 00:02:27,616 --> 00:02:29,451 a third military eye witness 62 00:02:29,451 --> 00:02:31,620 to an alleged mass UFO sighting, 63 00:02:31,620 --> 00:02:34,581 a Navy veteran who says he has critical 64 00:02:34,581 --> 00:02:36,709 new information about the event. 65 00:02:51,190 --> 00:02:52,244 Hello. Good day, sir. 66 00:02:52,269 --> 00:02:54,407 You must be Lou. Yeah, I'm Lou. How are you, sir? 67 00:02:54,432 --> 00:02:55,112 Come on in, guys. 68 00:02:55,447 --> 00:02:56,252 Thanks. This is Tom. 69 00:02:56,277 --> 00:02:57,277 How are you, bud? 70 00:02:57,302 --> 00:02:58,683 Hi Tom, nice to meet you as well. 71 00:02:59,172 --> 00:03:00,898 I didn't know you were at the Topgun Course. 72 00:03:00,923 --> 00:03:01,423 Yeah. 73 00:03:01,448 --> 00:03:03,640 The air controllers go through school with the pilots, 74 00:03:03,665 --> 00:03:05,901 getting into the fight and back without getting shot down. 75 00:03:06,625 --> 00:03:07,952 Kevin Day was the Chief Radar 76 00:03:07,977 --> 00:03:10,258 Specialist on the USS Princeton. 77 00:03:10,732 --> 00:03:13,464 Kevin Day was a senior enlisted guy in the Navy, 78 00:03:13,464 --> 00:03:16,259 and you do not get the rank he got to 79 00:03:16,259 --> 00:03:18,157 unless you're very, very good. 80 00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:23,577 The intent of this interview is to get your perspectives. 81 00:03:23,602 --> 00:03:25,141 Of course, we don't wanna do it 82 00:03:25,166 --> 00:03:26,695 at the sacrifice of national security, 83 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,237 so I won't ask you anything classified. 84 00:03:28,262 --> 00:03:30,088 I won't ask you to provide any information 85 00:03:30,112 --> 00:03:31,812 that's classified or sensitive. 86 00:03:31,836 --> 00:03:35,020 So from beginning to end, tell me your story. 87 00:03:35,398 --> 00:03:37,088 I guess this is the best way to jump in. 88 00:03:37,113 --> 00:03:38,714 We were off the coast of San Diego, 89 00:03:38,755 --> 00:03:41,044 Nimitz Strike Group getting ready to go on deployment. 90 00:03:43,529 --> 00:03:44,822 The Princeton was part 91 00:03:44,822 --> 00:03:46,855 of the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group 92 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,099 on a training mission Southwest of San Diego 93 00:03:50,536 --> 00:03:52,454 when Kevin Day dispatched two pilots 94 00:03:52,454 --> 00:03:56,250 to intercept an unidentified craft he picked up on radar. 95 00:03:57,243 --> 00:04:01,185 It didn't fly like an aircraft. 96 00:04:01,210 --> 00:04:02,685 It was about 40 feet long. 97 00:04:02,710 --> 00:04:03,258 It's white. 98 00:04:03,258 --> 00:04:04,259 It has no wings. 99 00:04:04,592 --> 00:04:05,552 It has no rotors. 100 00:04:05,552 --> 00:04:06,848 It has no control surfaces. 101 00:04:06,873 --> 00:04:09,089 It's literally, think of a white Tic Tac. 102 00:04:12,033 --> 00:04:14,077 This image of the Tic Tac shaped object 103 00:04:14,077 --> 00:04:17,372 was captured by an F-18's weapons systems camera. 104 00:04:17,372 --> 00:04:19,676 It was so unnerving because it was so unpredictable. 105 00:04:24,471 --> 00:04:26,322 But the story began four days earlier 106 00:04:26,767 --> 00:04:28,049 when Kevin Day says he started 107 00:04:28,074 --> 00:04:30,660 seeing strange tracks on his radar. 108 00:04:30,711 --> 00:04:34,048 Right around the evening of the 10th of November, 109 00:04:34,048 --> 00:04:36,384 all these contacts were popping up in my radar coverage 110 00:04:36,384 --> 00:04:39,762 right off Catalina Island up by Los Angeles. 111 00:04:39,762 --> 00:04:42,269 At first there was like 10 or 12 objects. 112 00:04:42,294 --> 00:04:43,712 Watching them on display was like 113 00:04:43,737 --> 00:04:45,697 watching the snow fall in the sky. 114 00:04:47,061 --> 00:04:48,313 Day says the ship's system 115 00:04:48,313 --> 00:04:50,100 tracked the unidentified objects, 116 00:04:50,125 --> 00:04:52,293 dropping down from the upper atmosphere 117 00:04:52,318 --> 00:04:53,945 and then flying south in what 118 00:04:53,970 --> 00:04:56,097 appeared to be an organized formation 119 00:04:56,122 --> 00:04:58,333 at an altitude of 28,000 feet. 120 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:01,493 Their relative position didn't change from each other. 121 00:05:01,493 --> 00:05:03,998 It went real slow, 28,000 feet at 100 knots, 122 00:05:05,565 --> 00:05:06,995 which is extremely weird. 123 00:05:07,020 --> 00:05:09,402 Usually things that high don't travel that slowly, 124 00:05:09,427 --> 00:05:11,190 'cause they'll fall out of the sky. 125 00:05:11,215 --> 00:05:12,133 Do me a favor. 126 00:05:13,623 --> 00:05:16,709 On this piece of paper, pretend this is the screen, okay? 127 00:05:16,709 --> 00:05:19,005 Sure. Tell me what you're seeing. 128 00:05:19,177 --> 00:05:21,172 So you got the carrier, you got the Princeton, 129 00:05:21,172 --> 00:05:22,798 the Chaffee and the Higgins. 130 00:05:22,798 --> 00:05:24,133 And up here by Catalina Island, 131 00:05:24,133 --> 00:05:25,343 I see these objects like this, 132 00:05:25,343 --> 00:05:27,822 look kinda just like that, 133 00:05:27,847 --> 00:05:30,564 and they're all going 100 knots, tracking to the south. 134 00:05:31,817 --> 00:05:32,861 If you added 'em all up, 135 00:05:33,101 --> 00:05:35,020 there was well over 100 contacts. 136 00:05:37,522 --> 00:05:39,066 According to Kevin Day, 137 00:05:39,066 --> 00:05:42,194 an entire fleet of UFOs was flying unimpeded 138 00:05:42,194 --> 00:05:45,364 through the Navy's exercise warning area off the west coast. 139 00:05:47,424 --> 00:05:49,260 The Princeton was equipped with the military's 140 00:05:49,260 --> 00:05:51,564 most sophisticated radar system. 141 00:05:51,662 --> 00:05:54,394 Known as the Aegis SPY-1, it provides a 3D, 142 00:05:54,419 --> 00:05:57,910 360-degree view of the entire battle space. 143 00:05:58,019 --> 00:06:00,104 The USS Princeton, if you will, 144 00:06:00,104 --> 00:06:02,982 is the eyes and the ears for the battle group. 145 00:06:02,982 --> 00:06:04,817 The SPY-1 can simultaneously 146 00:06:04,817 --> 00:06:06,778 track hundreds of air contacts 147 00:06:06,778 --> 00:06:09,781 and can identify virtually anything that flies. 148 00:06:09,781 --> 00:06:13,117 It eliminated the fact they could have been 149 00:06:13,117 --> 00:06:15,069 friendly aircraft of some kind, 150 00:06:15,094 --> 00:06:16,797 or enemy aircraft of some kind. 151 00:06:16,989 --> 00:06:18,490 Nothing really fit. 152 00:06:18,490 --> 00:06:20,031 There's no recognized signature 153 00:06:20,056 --> 00:06:21,398 that you're picking up? Nope. 154 00:06:22,270 --> 00:06:24,582 It's becoming evident that these things are really... 155 00:06:25,855 --> 00:06:27,959 UFOs. They are unidentified flying objects. 156 00:06:27,984 --> 00:06:29,485 I didn't have a better word for it. 157 00:06:29,485 --> 00:06:30,000 Right. 158 00:06:30,611 --> 00:06:32,405 I was just chompin' at the bit. 159 00:06:32,405 --> 00:06:34,344 I just wanted to intercept these things. 160 00:06:34,756 --> 00:06:37,218 So Captain JL Smith comes down into combat 161 00:06:37,243 --> 00:06:40,496 and I said sir, I think we should intercept these things. 162 00:06:40,496 --> 00:06:42,081 I reached out and I hooked one of them 163 00:06:42,081 --> 00:06:44,333 on the large-screen display, but all of a sudden 164 00:06:44,333 --> 00:06:46,752 this object drops 28,000 feet, 165 00:06:46,752 --> 00:06:47,880 down to the surface of the ocean, 166 00:06:47,905 --> 00:06:49,631 and I figured it out later. 167 00:06:49,656 --> 00:06:50,563 It was at .78 seconds. 168 00:06:52,109 --> 00:06:54,027 If Kevin Day's calculations are correct, 169 00:06:54,431 --> 00:06:56,113 the object he saw would have been moving 170 00:06:56,113 --> 00:06:59,366 at the astounding speed of 24,000 miles per hour, 171 00:06:59,366 --> 00:07:01,428 over 30 times the speed of sound. 172 00:07:04,012 --> 00:07:06,144 Aye-aye can't go overhead Mother Eagle seven. 173 00:07:06,169 --> 00:07:08,692 So the captain said yeah, let's intercept one, 174 00:07:08,692 --> 00:07:10,098 and I was like hell yeah. 175 00:07:10,987 --> 00:07:13,453 After tracking the strange objects for days, 176 00:07:14,047 --> 00:07:16,200 on November 14th, 2004 177 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,793 the Princeton's radar group finally took control. 178 00:07:19,589 --> 00:07:20,979 We grab one of the flights 179 00:07:21,004 --> 00:07:22,667 that was doin' a check flight on the carrier. 180 00:07:22,692 --> 00:07:24,898 It just happened to be Commander Fravor's flight. 181 00:07:26,545 --> 00:07:28,713 The Princeton control comes up and says, 182 00:07:28,853 --> 00:07:31,229 "Hey, Fast Eagle 110, this is Poisoned." 183 00:07:31,442 --> 00:07:33,215 "We're gonna suspend training." 184 00:07:33,271 --> 00:07:35,068 "We have real-world tasking." 185 00:07:35,176 --> 00:07:37,303 Commander David Fravor and his wingman pilot 186 00:07:37,328 --> 00:07:39,045 had been on a training run 187 00:07:39,070 --> 00:07:41,074 when they're receive the order to intercept. 188 00:07:41,598 --> 00:07:44,142 They got into an area, what we call merged plot, 189 00:07:44,469 --> 00:07:46,336 where the pilot is in the visual arena 190 00:07:46,361 --> 00:07:48,351 with whatever they're intercepting. 191 00:07:48,724 --> 00:07:49,952 It was so unpredictable. 192 00:07:49,952 --> 00:07:53,122 High G, rapid velocity, rapid acceleration, 193 00:07:53,122 --> 00:07:59,295 so you're wondering how can I possible fight this? 194 00:07:59,295 --> 00:08:00,863 And all of a sudden over the radio we hear, 195 00:08:00,888 --> 00:08:02,340 "Oh my god, oh my god! 196 00:08:02,340 --> 00:08:03,840 "I'm engaged, I'm engaged!" 197 00:08:04,517 --> 00:08:07,145 I'm thinking I'm gonna be watching 198 00:08:07,145 --> 00:08:08,771 a disaster here. 199 00:08:08,822 --> 00:08:10,073 Day says he watched 200 00:08:10,073 --> 00:08:12,409 as the Tic Tac escaped the fighter jets, 201 00:08:12,409 --> 00:08:15,195 climbing with an extraordinary burst of acceleration. 202 00:08:15,912 --> 00:08:18,070 Right back up to 28,000 feet. 203 00:08:19,639 --> 00:08:21,209 Day says the dramatic encounter 204 00:08:21,514 --> 00:08:22,721 was just the beginning. 205 00:08:22,746 --> 00:08:24,496 At that point, forget about your other aircraft. 206 00:08:24,521 --> 00:08:27,700 They're launching off a carrier, and all these other intercepts are happening. 207 00:08:27,979 --> 00:08:29,347 One of the jets was able 208 00:08:29,372 --> 00:08:30,707 to capture this video that would 209 00:08:30,732 --> 00:08:32,431 go on to make headlines around the world. 210 00:08:32,690 --> 00:08:34,463 Before I knew it, I had these objects 211 00:08:34,488 --> 00:08:35,823 raining out of the sky. 212 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,209 It was raining UFOs. 213 00:08:39,651 --> 00:08:41,355 Coming up on Unidentified. 214 00:08:41,573 --> 00:08:43,066 These things were going somewhere. 215 00:08:43,091 --> 00:08:44,717 They fell off my radar envelope 216 00:08:44,717 --> 00:08:46,387 down off the coast of Baja, California. 217 00:08:46,412 --> 00:08:46,942 Okay. 218 00:08:46,967 --> 00:08:48,474 I can tell the lat and long. 219 00:08:51,983 --> 00:08:53,734 Now all those interceptors are happening 220 00:08:54,117 --> 00:08:55,656 Before I knew it, I had these objects 221 00:08:55,883 --> 00:08:56,985 raining out of the sky 222 00:08:58,172 --> 00:08:59,188 It was raining UFOs. 223 00:09:00,047 --> 00:09:01,032 For eight years, 224 00:09:01,321 --> 00:09:05,070 Lue Elizondo, run Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program 225 00:09:05,383 --> 00:09:06,508 Or AATIP. 226 00:09:06,671 --> 00:09:08,156 A secret Pentagon unit, 227 00:09:08,266 --> 00:09:09,938 that investigated UFOs 228 00:09:10,734 --> 00:09:12,517 Now, he's working with a team of former 229 00:09:12,541 --> 00:09:14,805 government insiders assembled by Tom Delonge. 230 00:09:15,383 --> 00:09:16,664 Their mission? Reveal what 231 00:09:16,689 --> 00:09:18,649 they say is the truth about UFOs. 232 00:09:20,219 --> 00:09:21,969 They're starting with the Nimitz Incident 233 00:09:22,188 --> 00:09:24,305 A full story of which has never been told... 234 00:09:25,133 --> 00:09:25,977 Until now. 235 00:09:26,797 --> 00:09:29,515 I'm telling you, it was the most humbling experience of my life. 236 00:09:30,062 --> 00:09:31,781 I'm telling you, it was the most humbling experience of my life. 237 00:09:32,039 --> 00:09:33,805 This former Navy radar specialist 238 00:09:34,235 --> 00:09:36,953 Claims he watched an entire fleet of Tic Tac UFOs 239 00:09:37,273 --> 00:09:38,648 evade Navy F-18's 240 00:09:39,524 --> 00:09:41,055 Not only do you have, 241 00:09:41,977 --> 00:09:44,039 the pilots seen this Tic Tac 242 00:09:44,063 --> 00:09:45,506 but you have another eye witness 243 00:09:45,531 --> 00:09:47,279 that is 20 miles away in another ship 244 00:09:47,304 --> 00:09:48,585 You have to ask yourself, 245 00:09:48,610 --> 00:09:51,164 Are the radars being spooked or cameras faulty? 246 00:09:51,242 --> 00:09:53,125 Every time this things get in the visual arena, 247 00:09:53,211 --> 00:09:54,336 They fall out of the sky. 248 00:09:54,767 --> 00:09:57,538 Wait tall, the interceptor had left, and they'd pop right back up to 249 00:09:57,563 --> 00:10:01,078 28000 feet, right back where they were, and continue going 100 nots. 250 00:10:01,782 --> 00:10:02,806 It was as if, 251 00:10:03,454 --> 00:10:04,759 they want to be left alone. 252 00:10:07,626 --> 00:10:08,930 Later on shore, 253 00:10:09,002 --> 00:10:11,921 Kevin Day says he spoke with Commander David Fravor, 254 00:10:11,921 --> 00:10:14,176 a pilot who went head-to-head with the Tic Tac. 255 00:10:14,447 --> 00:10:16,481 I was asking him what the hell, man? 256 00:10:16,506 --> 00:10:17,754 What happened? 257 00:10:17,779 --> 00:10:20,240 He said "Mako I gotta tell ya, 258 00:10:20,372 --> 00:10:22,040 that thing kicked my ass." 259 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,333 And that kinda spurred me. 260 00:10:23,333 --> 00:10:24,751 I said okay, that's enough. 261 00:10:24,751 --> 00:10:26,289 I'm gonna write an after action report. 262 00:10:26,314 --> 00:10:27,477 I gotta document this. 263 00:10:28,211 --> 00:10:29,272 But when Day says 264 00:10:29,297 --> 00:10:30,670 he tried to document what happened, 265 00:10:30,695 --> 00:10:33,072 he searched the ship's computers for the radar data 266 00:10:33,097 --> 00:10:34,912 and communication recordings. 267 00:10:34,937 --> 00:10:37,940 Well, strangely enough all the comms were gone. 268 00:10:41,085 --> 00:10:42,920 All of our external communications 269 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,286 for that whole intercept were gone, 270 00:10:44,288 --> 00:10:46,077 which is supposed to be impossible. 271 00:10:46,630 --> 00:10:49,126 So either someone took the old disk and replaced it 272 00:10:49,126 --> 00:10:52,171 or somehow it was actually erased. 273 00:10:52,171 --> 00:10:55,007 But the time code is there. Yeah. 274 00:10:55,007 --> 00:10:56,842 But the recordings are not. Right. 275 00:10:56,842 --> 00:10:59,053 So I'm trying to understand. Burned out. 276 00:10:59,053 --> 00:11:00,221 Yeah, that's really... Wow. 277 00:11:00,221 --> 00:11:01,312 I don't have a good answer. 278 00:11:01,337 --> 00:11:02,213 I don't know. 279 00:11:03,350 --> 00:11:04,977 Day claims the files were gone, 280 00:11:04,977 --> 00:11:06,311 but he was able to write 281 00:11:06,311 --> 00:11:08,397 down a critical piece of information. 282 00:11:08,397 --> 00:11:10,691 These things were going somewhere. 283 00:11:10,691 --> 00:11:12,317 They fell off my radar envelope 284 00:11:12,317 --> 00:11:13,983 down off the coast of Baja, California. 285 00:11:14,008 --> 00:11:14,671 Okay. 286 00:11:14,921 --> 00:11:16,405 There's a little group of islands 287 00:11:16,430 --> 00:11:18,231 down off the coast and right there they disappeared. 288 00:11:18,256 --> 00:11:19,317 Several hundred miles. 289 00:11:19,342 --> 00:11:21,212 They are all going to that same lat and long? 290 00:11:21,237 --> 00:11:22,762 They all went to the same spot. 291 00:11:23,401 --> 00:11:25,014 I can tell you the lat and long. 292 00:11:27,100 --> 00:11:28,351 The geographic coordinates 293 00:11:28,351 --> 00:11:30,603 where Day says the Tic Tacs disappeared 294 00:11:30,603 --> 00:11:32,677 off his radar lead here, 295 00:11:32,702 --> 00:11:35,392 180 miles south of San Diego, off the Mexican coast. 296 00:11:36,984 --> 00:11:40,697 Kevin Day adds a layer of expertise 297 00:11:40,697 --> 00:11:42,892 that we didn't have before. 298 00:11:42,949 --> 00:11:46,453 With those electronic eyes, Kevin Day can see things 299 00:11:46,453 --> 00:11:49,292 that the naked eye cannot, 300 00:11:49,317 --> 00:11:53,325 and he adds an entirely new dimension to this investigation. 301 00:11:53,485 --> 00:11:58,866 Did the captain seem concerned or agitated or... 302 00:11:58,866 --> 00:12:00,381 What was his reaction? 303 00:12:00,535 --> 00:12:02,954 He, I can only guess that he was thinking, 304 00:12:02,954 --> 00:12:05,373 but he was, didn't seem concerned at all. 305 00:12:05,373 --> 00:12:07,080 I think he was trying to resist 306 00:12:07,105 --> 00:12:08,668 the idea that they were UFOs. 307 00:12:08,668 --> 00:12:09,651 Mmm-hmm. 308 00:12:09,676 --> 00:12:12,665 Why?Let me ask you, why does anybody in the Navy, ah 309 00:12:14,486 --> 00:12:17,718 want to resist the idea of UFOs? 310 00:12:17,718 --> 00:12:19,637 'Cause they don't wanna get scoffed at. 311 00:12:19,637 --> 00:12:21,103 They don't wanna get made fun of, 312 00:12:21,128 --> 00:12:23,306 especially for a guy trying to make admiral, you know? 313 00:12:23,331 --> 00:12:23,978 Sure. 314 00:12:24,476 --> 00:12:25,936 There's a lot of emotion 315 00:12:25,936 --> 00:12:30,566 and there's a lot of feelings behind this issue. 316 00:12:30,566 --> 00:12:31,875 There's a lot of stigma. 317 00:12:31,967 --> 00:12:33,969 But it was this guy, Kevin Day, 318 00:12:33,969 --> 00:12:36,513 who had the courage to come forward 319 00:12:36,513 --> 00:12:39,683 and say "boss, I don't know what these are." 320 00:12:39,683 --> 00:12:40,981 "Let's figure this out." 321 00:12:41,208 --> 00:12:42,953 You know, I was looking around, I was like: 322 00:12:42,978 --> 00:12:44,980 All the years, all the money, 323 00:12:44,980 --> 00:12:47,316 and all the expertise, and all the talent, 324 00:12:47,316 --> 00:12:48,519 everyone around me in this strike group, 325 00:12:48,964 --> 00:12:50,453 and there's nothing we can do. 326 00:12:51,187 --> 00:12:53,557 If these things are hostile, then we're screwed. 327 00:12:53,698 --> 00:12:56,385 I'm telling you, it was the most humbling experience of my life. 328 00:12:57,112 --> 00:12:59,135 This is a guy who's been long retired, 329 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,253 and you just look at him. 330 00:13:00,551 --> 00:13:03,275 And he still, I mean, he still has the Navy haircut. 331 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:04,500 He still presses his shirts. 332 00:13:04,799 --> 00:13:06,634 I mean man, the guy's still in the Navy, man. 333 00:13:06,634 --> 00:13:08,597 He's still serving his country. 334 00:13:09,087 --> 00:13:11,008 Thank you, my friend. Thank you. 335 00:13:11,033 --> 00:13:12,096 You're welcome. Outstanding. 336 00:13:12,121 --> 00:13:13,462 And I mean it sincerely. 337 00:13:13,487 --> 00:13:14,549 It's been an honor and a pleasure. 338 00:13:17,597 --> 00:13:19,809 Out of all the things I've heard about the Nimitz 339 00:13:19,834 --> 00:13:22,214 I have not heard there are up to a hundred craft. 340 00:13:22,239 --> 00:13:24,490 That absolutely blew my mind. 341 00:13:24,515 --> 00:13:27,310 A Top Gun graduate using the most advanced technology 342 00:13:27,335 --> 00:13:28,876 ...It doesn't get better... on Earth. 343 00:13:28,901 --> 00:13:29,790 It doesn't get better. 344 00:13:29,849 --> 00:13:31,780 And he's the one that called for the intercept. 345 00:13:31,874 --> 00:13:33,577 Yeah, and you know what else too? 346 00:13:33,602 --> 00:13:35,286 He's got the lat longs he provided us 347 00:13:35,756 --> 00:13:38,358 on where these things may have went. 348 00:13:38,874 --> 00:13:41,283 We don't know if they've kind just fell off the radar 349 00:13:41,308 --> 00:13:42,966 or if there's something there, 350 00:13:42,991 --> 00:13:44,669 but either way we gotta check it out. 351 00:13:49,827 --> 00:13:51,256 Back in Southern California, 352 00:13:51,281 --> 00:13:53,052 Elizondo is updating the team 353 00:13:53,077 --> 00:13:55,000 on his extraordinary interview with Kevin Day. 354 00:13:56,209 --> 00:13:58,482 Tom and I went to go visit an individual 355 00:13:58,662 --> 00:14:00,755 who was in the radar room at the time 356 00:14:00,959 --> 00:14:02,857 of the Tic Tac event. 357 00:14:02,974 --> 00:14:05,334 He was the senior most individual 358 00:14:05,359 --> 00:14:07,551 responsible for that radar. 359 00:14:07,576 --> 00:14:09,694 So here's the bottom line. 360 00:14:09,719 --> 00:14:10,898 It wasn't an event. 361 00:14:11,278 --> 00:14:12,442 It was events, 362 00:14:13,097 --> 00:14:14,190 and it occurred 363 00:14:14,215 --> 00:14:16,885 over a longer period of time than we thought. 364 00:14:17,667 --> 00:14:19,439 The other thing that was really interesting 365 00:14:19,464 --> 00:14:20,948 is he says there's data somewhere, 366 00:14:20,973 --> 00:14:22,607 at some other server, and 367 00:14:22,632 --> 00:14:24,932 he goes, "Find that data." 368 00:14:25,608 --> 00:14:27,184 Former Deputy Assistant Secretary 369 00:14:27,209 --> 00:14:29,821 of Defense for Intelligence, Chris Mellon, 370 00:14:29,821 --> 00:14:31,254 has tried to track down the records 371 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:32,804 from the Nimitz fleet for that week. 372 00:14:32,829 --> 00:14:34,663 One of the frustrating, 373 00:14:34,688 --> 00:14:37,288 but very intriguing things about this 374 00:14:37,313 --> 00:14:39,000 is that when I suggested to someone 375 00:14:39,624 --> 00:14:41,842 on the Hill that they try to obtain the deck logs 376 00:14:42,381 --> 00:14:43,928 for the Princeton for that date, 377 00:14:44,381 --> 00:14:47,053 the National Archive said Princeton logs 378 00:14:47,078 --> 00:14:48,472 for that date are missing. 379 00:14:48,472 --> 00:14:50,725 Those deck logs should be there, 380 00:14:50,750 --> 00:14:53,060 and we know officially now that they're not. 381 00:14:53,060 --> 00:14:55,153 And it's not due to classification. 382 00:14:55,525 --> 00:14:56,040 But... 383 00:14:56,065 --> 00:14:58,838 Unfortunate, because if they had been there 384 00:14:58,863 --> 00:14:59,869 that might be another way 385 00:14:59,894 --> 00:15:01,924 to corroborate some of these reporters. 386 00:15:02,645 --> 00:15:05,231 What I would like to do in this case is 387 00:15:05,637 --> 00:15:06,989 be able to corroborate this 388 00:15:07,014 --> 00:15:08,934 with another witness from Right, absolutely. 389 00:15:08,959 --> 00:15:09,886 the radar room. Yeah. 390 00:15:09,911 --> 00:15:12,568 I think it would be much to our advantage 391 00:15:12,593 --> 00:15:15,919 to find a second source. 392 00:15:16,261 --> 00:15:18,268 With the deck logs allegedly missing, 393 00:15:18,293 --> 00:15:19,651 Kevin Day's testimony may hold a key 394 00:15:19,676 --> 00:15:20,729 to unlocking a larger mystery, 395 00:15:20,754 --> 00:15:22,073 one Elizondo was unable to answer 396 00:15:22,302 --> 00:15:23,633 when he was at 397 00:15:23,657 --> 00:15:25,248 the Pentagon. 398 00:15:26,339 --> 00:15:27,951 Why were these strange craft appearing 399 00:15:27,976 --> 00:15:29,530 just off the west coast, 400 00:15:29,918 --> 00:15:31,515 and where exactly were they heading? 401 00:15:37,133 --> 00:15:39,445 It takes week, but Elizondo was able 402 00:15:39,470 --> 00:15:41,484 to find another witness from USS Princeton, 403 00:15:41,910 --> 00:15:44,336 a radar technician who served with Kevin Day. 404 00:15:46,363 --> 00:15:48,730 There was nothing usual about this, man. 405 00:15:48,755 --> 00:15:51,441 I mean, there was nothing normal about the whole situation. 406 00:15:51,853 --> 00:15:52,376 Wow. 407 00:15:52,571 --> 00:15:54,118 Let me ask you something. 408 00:15:55,052 --> 00:15:57,825 Would you be available to talk to you in person? 409 00:15:59,293 --> 00:16:00,340 Yeah. 410 00:16:01,418 --> 00:16:02,831 Coming up on Unidentified. 411 00:16:04,371 --> 00:16:07,715 We tracked it going from 30,000 feet down to sea level, 412 00:16:07,740 --> 00:16:10,090 like within no time at all. 413 00:16:10,275 --> 00:16:11,901 Sonar said they got a hit. 414 00:16:22,870 --> 00:16:25,713 My hope is that we'll make a serious, 415 00:16:26,228 --> 00:16:31,369 credible effort to acquire and analyze data 416 00:16:31,394 --> 00:16:34,197 which could tell us whether this UFO issue 417 00:16:34,222 --> 00:16:37,964 actually does involve some other civilization, 418 00:16:38,589 --> 00:16:42,823 or reveals a breakthrough on the part of adversaries, 419 00:16:43,635 --> 00:16:45,620 or even potentially an ally. 420 00:16:46,096 --> 00:16:48,729 It's just sort of inexcusable to me 421 00:16:48,754 --> 00:16:50,098 that we don't make the small amount 422 00:16:50,123 --> 00:16:52,387 of effort required to answer such a profound question. 423 00:16:56,363 --> 00:16:57,402 Hey, Gary. Hey. 424 00:16:58,058 --> 00:16:59,357 Former Deputy Assistant Secretary 425 00:16:59,382 --> 00:17:01,792 of Defense for Intelligence, Chris Mellon, 426 00:17:02,233 --> 00:17:04,061 is meeting the fourth Navy eyewitness 427 00:17:04,201 --> 00:17:06,365 from the USS Nimitz UFO encounter. 428 00:17:07,021 --> 00:17:10,067 The more eyewitnesses you can have, the better. 429 00:17:10,356 --> 00:17:11,581 We were successful in setting 430 00:17:11,606 --> 00:17:13,011 up a meeting with this individual. 431 00:17:13,598 --> 00:17:15,332 And so Chris Mellon, being a former 432 00:17:15,852 --> 00:17:17,728 very senior person in the Department of Defense, 433 00:17:18,103 --> 00:17:20,947 I knew he would have some really good perspectives. 434 00:17:22,843 --> 00:17:24,085 Hope you like coffee strong. 435 00:17:24,110 --> 00:17:24,929 Oh, thanks so much. 436 00:17:25,487 --> 00:17:27,023 Gary Voorhis was a technician 437 00:17:27,048 --> 00:17:29,834 onboard the Nimitz's radar ship, the USS Princeton. 438 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,773 He's never spoken publicly about the strange 439 00:17:32,798 --> 00:17:34,466 events of November 2004, 440 00:17:35,155 --> 00:17:37,241 and what he has to say might provide 441 00:17:37,266 --> 00:17:39,069 a missing piece of critical information. 442 00:17:40,092 --> 00:17:41,224 Well, Gary, thanks again 443 00:17:41,249 --> 00:17:42,967 so much for taking the time. 444 00:17:42,992 --> 00:17:44,896 Yeah, without a doubt, it's definitely... 445 00:17:45,222 --> 00:17:46,901 There is something going on. 446 00:17:46,926 --> 00:17:48,292 What was the first indication 447 00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:49,666 something unusual was occurring? 448 00:17:50,881 --> 00:17:52,381 The first indication that I heard. 449 00:17:52,406 --> 00:17:54,389 Voorhis' story begins four days 450 00:17:54,414 --> 00:17:56,436 before the pilots intercepted the UFO. 451 00:17:56,875 --> 00:18:00,790 The SPY guys came out and was like oh, we got clutter. 452 00:18:00,815 --> 00:18:02,707 The SPY guys in terms of the radar systems? 453 00:18:02,732 --> 00:18:04,283 Yeah, the guys that specifically work 454 00:18:04,308 --> 00:18:06,112 on just the SPY-1 Bravo Radar, 455 00:18:06,137 --> 00:18:07,315 they came down and asked me 456 00:18:07,340 --> 00:18:08,995 to reset all the computer systems. 457 00:18:10,039 --> 00:18:11,227 The Princeton had already 458 00:18:11,252 --> 00:18:13,040 picked up three strange objects 459 00:18:13,065 --> 00:18:15,442 their Aegis SPY-1 Radar couldn't identify. 460 00:18:16,708 --> 00:18:18,541 Thinking that the system was malfunctioning, 461 00:18:18,655 --> 00:18:20,613 the technicians rebooted the computers. 462 00:18:20,937 --> 00:18:21,965 Brought it all back up 463 00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:23,405 and lo and behold, 464 00:18:24,216 --> 00:18:25,060 they're there still. 465 00:18:25,220 --> 00:18:26,831 And then we started getting confirmation 466 00:18:26,856 --> 00:18:28,660 from the other ships that they were seeing it. 467 00:18:28,685 --> 00:18:30,103 What were you seeing at that point? 468 00:18:30,128 --> 00:18:31,699 We were just seeing three tracks. 469 00:18:32,041 --> 00:18:32,682 Three tracks. 470 00:18:33,088 --> 00:18:34,315 Were they hovering? 471 00:18:34,444 --> 00:18:37,080 Sometimes they were only going a couple hundred knots. 472 00:18:37,478 --> 00:18:39,010 Sometimes they seemed stationary. 473 00:18:39,035 --> 00:18:41,134 Sometimes they moved relatively fast. 474 00:18:41,273 --> 00:18:43,234 The way that they kind went around us, 475 00:18:43,259 --> 00:18:45,241 it was almost like they were just monitoring us. 476 00:18:46,522 --> 00:18:48,764 Senior Radar Specialist Kevin Day 477 00:18:48,789 --> 00:18:51,639 says he watched as many as 100 of the mysterious craft 478 00:18:51,874 --> 00:18:53,288 fly through the Navy's airspace 479 00:18:53,328 --> 00:18:55,178 with impunity over the coming days. 480 00:18:55,226 --> 00:18:56,719 It was raining UFOs. 481 00:18:57,314 --> 00:18:58,937 Finally, on the fourth day, 482 00:18:58,962 --> 00:19:01,546 he scrambled two F-18s to intercept one of them. 483 00:19:02,736 --> 00:19:04,805 And when one of the pilots arrived on the scene, 484 00:19:04,830 --> 00:19:07,900 she says she spotted a single UFO hovering over the water. 485 00:19:08,083 --> 00:19:10,478 There was something in the water. 486 00:19:10,503 --> 00:19:11,362 There was a churning. 487 00:19:11,387 --> 00:19:14,159 We were all clamoring to get on the radio. 488 00:19:14,432 --> 00:19:15,691 What the fuck, is that? 489 00:19:15,964 --> 00:19:19,504 We tracked it going from 30,000 feet down to sea level, 490 00:19:19,529 --> 00:19:21,394 like within no time at all. 491 00:19:21,419 --> 00:19:23,212 And the sonar said they got a hit. 492 00:19:25,146 --> 00:19:27,382 Voorhis claims the ship's sonar operators 493 00:19:27,407 --> 00:19:29,219 had seen something else extraordinary. 494 00:19:29,917 --> 00:19:31,571 The object plunged into the ocean 495 00:19:31,917 --> 00:19:33,641 and it accelerated to a speed 496 00:19:33,666 --> 00:19:36,428 twice as fast as the Navy's fastest attack submarine. 497 00:19:37,628 --> 00:19:39,729 According to one of the sonar guys, 498 00:19:39,754 --> 00:19:41,756 they were going 70-plus knots under the water. 499 00:19:42,667 --> 00:19:43,866 The USS Louisville, 500 00:19:43,866 --> 00:19:46,594 a 6,000-ton nuclear-powered submarine, 501 00:19:46,619 --> 00:19:49,705 was patrolling just below the surface. 502 00:19:49,705 --> 00:19:51,718 Voorhis says he spoke with the sub sonar team 503 00:19:51,743 --> 00:19:53,548 to try to understand what was happening. 504 00:19:53,947 --> 00:19:55,795 You heard firsthand from the sonar technicians 505 00:19:55,795 --> 00:19:57,279 that they got a hit? Yeah. 506 00:19:57,304 --> 00:19:59,835 Do you have names of those individuals. 507 00:19:59,860 --> 00:20:03,162 None of them want to talk about it. You've reached out to them? They don't want-- 508 00:20:03,187 --> 00:20:05,530 Pretty much, you got who will say anything. 509 00:20:05,555 --> 00:20:06,101 Okay. 510 00:20:07,447 --> 00:20:10,575 And it was only one sonar guy I could get ahold of, 511 00:20:10,722 --> 00:20:12,078 and he doesn't wanna go on record. 512 00:20:12,103 --> 00:20:13,642 He doesn't want anything to do with it. 513 00:20:13,692 --> 00:20:15,016 As a matter of fact, he had asked 514 00:20:15,041 --> 00:20:16,454 me not to contact him ever again. 515 00:20:17,832 --> 00:20:19,845 Let's talk about how 516 00:20:19,870 --> 00:20:21,290 the tapes are normally handled. 517 00:20:22,612 --> 00:20:25,346 Well, strangely enough, all the comms were gone. 518 00:20:25,931 --> 00:20:28,080 Day claims the Princeton's communications 519 00:20:28,105 --> 00:20:30,899 for that week were erased, but he doesn't know how or why. 520 00:20:31,463 --> 00:20:33,595 Voorhis says something even stranger happened. 521 00:20:35,206 --> 00:20:36,408 A helicopter arrived. 522 00:20:37,093 --> 00:20:38,686 People got off the helicopter. 523 00:20:38,711 --> 00:20:40,585 They came in and then they 524 00:20:40,610 --> 00:20:42,366 requested all the data recording. 525 00:20:43,556 --> 00:20:45,212 And right after that, I was requested 526 00:20:45,237 --> 00:20:48,853 to hand over all the data recording tapes, 527 00:20:49,544 --> 00:20:52,510 and anything that wasn't recorded on during the event 528 00:20:52,535 --> 00:20:53,925 I was to erase, 529 00:20:53,950 --> 00:20:56,050 just in case there was anything on it. 530 00:20:56,075 --> 00:20:58,239 And um, and why was that? 531 00:20:58,264 --> 00:20:59,683 Were you provided an explanation? 532 00:20:59,826 --> 00:21:02,615 No, no. I wouldn't have been privy to any explanation. 533 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,152 It was just expected of me to do it. 534 00:21:04,765 --> 00:21:08,334 How unusual was this request to destroy, erase this data? 535 00:21:08,475 --> 00:21:09,796 It was completely unprecedented. 536 00:21:09,796 --> 00:21:12,217 I'd never been asked to destroy data, ever. 537 00:21:12,662 --> 00:21:14,151 And there was no scuttlebutt 538 00:21:14,176 --> 00:21:15,701 about where these tapes were going 539 00:21:15,726 --> 00:21:16,248 No. 540 00:21:16,273 --> 00:21:18,178 and for what purpose, or anything like that? 541 00:21:18,203 --> 00:21:20,411 Basically it was just understood that they were going. 542 00:21:21,018 --> 00:21:22,530 Gary Voorhis corroborates 543 00:21:22,555 --> 00:21:24,124 important details of the other 544 00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:25,750 eyewitness's dramatic accounts. 545 00:21:26,778 --> 00:21:29,481 But his story raises an even more troubling possibility, 546 00:21:30,281 --> 00:21:32,659 that the Navy was involved in a coverup 547 00:21:32,659 --> 00:21:34,828 of a potential threat to national security. 548 00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:38,796 It's very curious, rather conspiratorial almost, 549 00:21:38,821 --> 00:21:42,076 the idea that a helicopter landed 550 00:21:42,101 --> 00:21:45,739 and he was asked to download the data and hand it off. 551 00:21:46,747 --> 00:21:49,139 That raises a whole host of questions 552 00:21:49,164 --> 00:21:51,825 about what's really going on behind the scenes. 553 00:21:52,074 --> 00:21:54,525 The department of defense did not respond to repeated requests 554 00:21:54,550 --> 00:21:57,268 for comment on the claims made by Kevin Day and Gary Voorhis. 555 00:21:59,615 --> 00:22:01,617 I am aware that there are other incidents 556 00:22:01,617 --> 00:22:04,263 that occurred involving military assets 557 00:22:04,288 --> 00:22:05,615 in and around this area. 558 00:22:06,129 --> 00:22:08,981 Before the USS Nimitz, and frankly after the USS Nimitz. 559 00:22:10,225 --> 00:22:12,885 So the question is how significant were they 560 00:22:13,267 --> 00:22:16,446 and is there an explanation for what is being 561 00:22:16,471 --> 00:22:18,216 encountered in and around this area? 562 00:22:21,241 --> 00:22:23,952 Lue Elizondo is on Santa Catalina Island, 563 00:22:23,977 --> 00:22:26,479 47 miles off the coast of Los Angeles. 564 00:22:27,186 --> 00:22:28,928 He's come here searching for answers 565 00:22:28,953 --> 00:22:30,686 to why a fleet of UFOs 566 00:22:30,711 --> 00:22:33,098 allegedly first appeared off the islands shores. 567 00:22:38,740 --> 00:22:39,958 I'm looking on the radar 568 00:22:39,983 --> 00:22:41,185 and up here by Catalina Island 569 00:22:41,210 --> 00:22:42,935 I see these objects like this. 570 00:22:43,538 --> 00:22:44,944 They're all tracking to the south. 571 00:22:45,272 --> 00:22:47,108 Navy Radar Specialist Kevin Day 572 00:22:47,235 --> 00:22:49,609 told Elizondo a mysterious fleet of UFOs 573 00:22:49,898 --> 00:22:52,093 was first tracked over in the Catalina Channel, 574 00:22:52,352 --> 00:22:54,610 and then flew south through the Navy's training area. 575 00:22:54,779 --> 00:22:56,140 I had these objects raining 576 00:22:56,165 --> 00:22:57,077 out of the sky. 577 00:22:59,335 --> 00:23:00,733 Why is there an interest here 578 00:23:00,758 --> 00:23:02,163 in and around these waters? 579 00:23:02,651 --> 00:23:05,999 Catalina Island, apparently it is attracting these UAPs 580 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,784 for whatever reason we don't know yet. 581 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,427 Hi. Pleasure to meet you. 582 00:23:10,452 --> 00:23:11,933 Very good to meet you. 583 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,920 Parts of Catalina are off limits to the public, 584 00:23:15,202 --> 00:23:17,288 so Elizondo has met up with Hillary Holt 585 00:23:17,568 --> 00:23:19,279 who works for the island's Conservancy. 586 00:23:20,417 --> 00:23:22,623 See how Catalina's here? 587 00:23:22,648 --> 00:23:24,928 So this area, called the Continental Borderland, 588 00:23:24,953 --> 00:23:27,012 is kind of this hodgepodge 589 00:23:27,037 --> 00:23:30,077 of continental crust and oceanic crust. 590 00:23:30,277 --> 00:23:33,677 Everything to the west is on the Pacific tectonic plate. 591 00:23:34,050 --> 00:23:35,988 Don't think I could ever get tired of that view. 592 00:23:37,668 --> 00:23:39,582 Catalina was formed millions of years ago 593 00:23:40,285 --> 00:23:42,445 when two giant plates of the Earth's crust 594 00:23:42,445 --> 00:23:43,551 collided violently. 595 00:23:44,030 --> 00:23:45,272 That geology helped shape the 596 00:23:45,297 --> 00:23:46,959 three thousand foot deep channel 597 00:23:46,984 --> 00:23:48,889 that isolates Catalina from the main land. 598 00:23:50,551 --> 00:23:52,325 This is an actual geology map. 599 00:23:52,350 --> 00:23:55,098 That pink backbone right there, is the tallest 600 00:23:55,123 --> 00:23:56,638 backbone on the island. 601 00:23:57,232 --> 00:23:59,364 Interesting, okay and so wildlife. 602 00:23:59,634 --> 00:24:02,668 I know it sounds like a crazy question to ask but, 603 00:24:02,693 --> 00:24:04,982 are there any large indigenous birds? 604 00:24:05,007 --> 00:24:07,374 Condors anything like that you in South America, 605 00:24:07,399 --> 00:24:08,094 around here? 606 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,359 I mean, my point being Yeah. 607 00:24:10,384 --> 00:24:12,447 Is it normal to see a flock of 50 birds 608 00:24:12,472 --> 00:24:13,626 heading down South. 609 00:24:13,651 --> 00:24:15,376 I don't know if I see flocks of 50 birds, 610 00:24:15,401 --> 00:24:17,807 but absolutely tons of migrants come through here. 611 00:24:18,783 --> 00:24:21,821 And, there is a lot of history to be told. 612 00:24:21,846 --> 00:24:25,564 Both around Blackjack here, as well as the airport. 613 00:24:27,871 --> 00:24:29,824 We're already, gonna be at 2000 feet. 614 00:24:29,849 --> 00:24:31,705 You pick up something on radar, well you're not 615 00:24:31,730 --> 00:24:34,315 taking off from the ground you're picking up something from here. 616 00:24:34,571 --> 00:24:37,324 We know that there's these weird refraction phenomena 617 00:24:37,349 --> 00:24:39,435 that occur with radar over the, over the water. 618 00:24:39,460 --> 00:24:41,186 Sometimes radar signals bounce, 619 00:24:41,555 --> 00:24:43,495 and you can be picking something up really really 620 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,582 far away that looks close, or picking up something 621 00:24:45,607 --> 00:24:47,246 really really close that looks far away. 622 00:24:47,675 --> 00:24:49,879 Could some of these tracks that they were picking up 623 00:24:49,904 --> 00:24:53,157 on radar with an image, actually be local aircraft 624 00:24:53,317 --> 00:24:56,099 taking off from the mountain top here on Catalina island? 625 00:24:56,794 --> 00:24:57,591 Is it possible? 626 00:24:58,909 --> 00:24:59,618 Yeah it is. 627 00:25:00,875 --> 00:25:03,190 But is it likely? That's what I'm gonna find out. 628 00:25:04,701 --> 00:25:08,163 And then we are, I believe, if you all wanted 629 00:25:08,188 --> 00:25:10,083 to head down to Little Harbor. 630 00:25:10,108 --> 00:25:12,277 Which it's Little Harbor was where we have the 631 00:25:12,302 --> 00:25:15,305 oldest archeological evidence on the island. 632 00:25:15,704 --> 00:25:18,055 And then we want to head out here 633 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,415 to the Ben Weston overlook. 634 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,718 Which we, there are some old 635 00:25:23,828 --> 00:25:25,386 army signal corps installations. 636 00:25:25,411 --> 00:25:27,145 I would love to see that. Yeah. 637 00:25:27,543 --> 00:25:29,003 Orient me here for a second. 638 00:25:29,003 --> 00:25:31,005 I'm looking here and I feel like 639 00:25:31,005 --> 00:25:33,333 I'm almost surrounded by mountains. 640 00:25:33,444 --> 00:25:35,809 So LAX is over here. 641 00:25:35,921 --> 00:25:36,458 Exactly. 642 00:25:36,483 --> 00:25:37,926 LAX is pretty close. 643 00:25:38,051 --> 00:25:40,475 You got a populated metropolitan area right there. 644 00:25:41,389 --> 00:25:45,278 Back in 2004, US Nimitz Carrier Battle Group 645 00:25:45,303 --> 00:25:46,184 was right out there. 646 00:25:47,810 --> 00:25:49,294 Lights are being picked up in the sky 647 00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:51,404 on radar and visually over there, 648 00:25:51,755 --> 00:25:54,451 most of the time at 30,000 feet coming in over the water. 649 00:25:54,756 --> 00:25:56,636 Sometimes you're literally going from that 650 00:25:56,660 --> 00:25:58,490 side of the sky to that side of the sky 651 00:25:58,826 --> 00:25:59,631 in seconds. 652 00:26:00,107 --> 00:26:03,036 Historically, there have been several events right here. 653 00:26:04,013 --> 00:26:05,493 From a national security perspective, 654 00:26:05,493 --> 00:26:07,995 our job is to own the battle space. 655 00:26:07,995 --> 00:26:09,360 If we don't know what's in the sky 656 00:26:09,385 --> 00:26:11,227 and we don't know what's going on in the water, 657 00:26:11,252 --> 00:26:12,283 then that's a problem. 658 00:26:12,567 --> 00:26:15,189 And there's things that are right around here 659 00:26:15,353 --> 00:26:16,696 and we don't know what they are. 660 00:26:16,721 --> 00:26:19,432 We have an obligation to try to figure it out. 661 00:26:19,755 --> 00:26:21,590 Catalina has a secretive history 662 00:26:21,668 --> 00:26:23,356 that dates back to World War II 663 00:26:24,082 --> 00:26:26,884 when the military built a network of fortifications 664 00:26:26,909 --> 00:26:29,058 to protect against an invasion of the mainland. 665 00:26:29,566 --> 00:26:32,417 There's absolutely different places 666 00:26:32,442 --> 00:26:35,175 across the island where you can find evidence 667 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,957 of past military operations. 668 00:26:38,145 --> 00:26:40,606 And during World War II, Toyon Bay 669 00:26:40,631 --> 00:26:43,754 was a training center for the OSS, 670 00:26:43,779 --> 00:26:45,380 the precursor to the CIA. 671 00:26:46,207 --> 00:26:48,285 You can go down the road and there are old 672 00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:50,269 radio towers and radio bunkers. 673 00:26:50,348 --> 00:26:54,934 Being down here um, is, it just reinforces to me 674 00:26:55,296 --> 00:26:58,804 the idea that Catalina Island is a strategic location 675 00:26:58,999 --> 00:27:00,341 and is a point of interest. 676 00:27:00,451 --> 00:27:05,152 When I was talking with people about doing this show, 677 00:27:05,177 --> 00:27:06,863 even just in the last week, 678 00:27:06,888 --> 00:27:10,980 I had a lot of people say "oh, I've seen something weird. 679 00:27:11,005 --> 00:27:13,958 I've seen something before." 680 00:27:18,729 --> 00:27:21,005 There was something, or is something, 681 00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:25,102 in this area that may be of significant strategic interest. 682 00:27:25,127 --> 00:27:26,408 Now is that what's bringing UAPs? 683 00:27:26,433 --> 00:27:26,978 I don't know. 684 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,337 And unless I look at it for myself, I'll never know. 685 00:27:32,953 --> 00:27:35,342 For decades, Catalina has been a hotspot 686 00:27:35,367 --> 00:27:37,746 for reports of unidentified aerial phenomena. 687 00:27:39,078 --> 00:27:41,967 The most credible sighting was reported by Kelly Johnson, 688 00:27:42,413 --> 00:27:45,320 the founder of Lockheed Martin's legendary Skunk Works division 689 00:27:45,778 --> 00:27:48,517 and the mastermind of the SR-71 Blackbird. 690 00:27:50,142 --> 00:27:52,267 and the mastermind of the SR-71 Blackbird. 691 00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:55,476 Johnson filed this official report with the Air Force, 692 00:27:55,843 --> 00:27:57,875 in which he and two test pilots describe seeing 693 00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:00,100 a large craft flying north of Catalina. 694 00:28:00,810 --> 00:28:03,450 Kelly was at his ranch and the other 695 00:28:03,475 --> 00:28:05,194 gentlemen were up doing flight tests. 696 00:28:05,219 --> 00:28:06,755 So they saw it from two different 697 00:28:06,780 --> 00:28:08,317 vantage points, which is interesting. 698 00:28:08,342 --> 00:28:10,099 It wasn't just from a single vantage point. 699 00:28:10,576 --> 00:28:13,398 Steve Justice spent 31 years at Skunk Works 700 00:28:13,686 --> 00:28:15,757 as one of its top aviation designers 701 00:28:16,036 --> 00:28:18,101 and is now a key member of Lue Elizondo's team. 702 00:28:18,882 --> 00:28:21,147 In light of Elizondo's Nimitz investigation, 703 00:28:21,742 --> 00:28:24,053 he's taken a fresh look at his predecessor's account. 704 00:28:24,171 --> 00:28:27,235 The most significant part of Kelly's memo 705 00:28:27,235 --> 00:28:29,845 is the fact that it was profound enough 706 00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:31,997 that he felt compelled to write it down 707 00:28:32,318 --> 00:28:33,877 and send it to the Air Force. 708 00:28:36,638 --> 00:28:38,443 That tells me he considered it 709 00:28:38,468 --> 00:28:40,216 to be really, really important. 710 00:28:41,163 --> 00:28:42,554 The Air Force concluding Johnson 711 00:28:42,579 --> 00:28:44,171 saw a rare cloud formation. 712 00:28:45,344 --> 00:28:47,891 Justice says that explanation doesn't make sense. 713 00:28:48,899 --> 00:28:51,680 I've read a number of analyses online 714 00:28:51,705 --> 00:28:54,170 where they conclude it was lenticular clouds or something. 715 00:28:54,195 --> 00:28:56,377 There are some clouds that look that way, 716 00:28:56,402 --> 00:28:58,089 but they don't move that way, 717 00:28:58,114 --> 00:29:00,097 and that's why it sticks in my head. 718 00:29:00,202 --> 00:29:01,519 So what explains the reports 719 00:29:01,544 --> 00:29:04,739 of UFOs in this same area 50 years later? 720 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:09,817 The answer may lie in Catalina's strategic location. 721 00:29:11,992 --> 00:29:14,608 180 miles north is Vendenberg Air Force Base, 722 00:29:15,179 --> 00:29:16,507 home to some of the military's 723 00:29:16,532 --> 00:29:18,258 most advance aerospace programs, 724 00:29:19,170 --> 00:29:22,211 and recently Elon Musk's private SpaceX rockets. 725 00:29:23,812 --> 00:29:26,945 Due south is the Navy's Whiskey-291 Warning Area, 726 00:29:27,490 --> 00:29:29,828 where the 2004 Nimitz encounter took place. 727 00:29:31,242 --> 00:29:33,702 Could the unidentified craft that appeared near Catalina 728 00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:36,100 be part of a top secret military test 729 00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:39,148 and were the pilots unwitting test subjects? 730 00:29:42,231 --> 00:29:44,450 Bryan Bender was one of the first reporters 731 00:29:44,475 --> 00:29:46,856 to reveal Elizondo's secret UFO program. 732 00:29:47,264 --> 00:29:48,943 There's this reasonable hypothesis 733 00:29:48,968 --> 00:29:51,591 that these are advanced military aircraft 734 00:29:52,096 --> 00:29:54,049 that only a very few number 735 00:29:54,074 --> 00:29:55,627 of government officials know about, 736 00:29:55,652 --> 00:29:57,683 and they're being tested, and they're being seen, 737 00:29:57,708 --> 00:29:58,948 and they're being reported, 738 00:29:59,178 --> 00:30:01,370 and that could explain why the government 739 00:30:01,635 --> 00:30:03,456 sort of doesn't wanna talk about it, 740 00:30:03,769 --> 00:30:05,384 because they wanna shield these secret 741 00:30:05,409 --> 00:30:06,729 military aircraft programs. 742 00:30:07,917 --> 00:30:09,393 One of the pilots who encountered 743 00:30:09,418 --> 00:30:11,670 the Tic Tac-shaped UFO during the Nimitz event 744 00:30:12,004 --> 00:30:13,559 questioned whether what she was seeing 745 00:30:13,793 --> 00:30:15,949 was part of an experimental aircraft test. 746 00:30:16,957 --> 00:30:18,598 When I got back to the ship, 747 00:30:18,623 --> 00:30:20,997 when I was frustrated that nobody was taking it seriously, 748 00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:25,544 one of my theories was were we vectored into a live range? 749 00:30:25,569 --> 00:30:28,584 Was that a submarine that launched 750 00:30:28,609 --> 00:30:32,319 something and was resubmerging? 751 00:30:36,346 --> 00:30:38,599 I have to be careful, 'cause I was part of AATIP 752 00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:41,489 and, you know, I don't wanna give the false conclusion 753 00:30:41,514 --> 00:30:44,037 that I'm trying to find an answer that I already have. 754 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,467 But truth be told, I had access to a lot of information. 755 00:30:48,644 --> 00:30:50,290 I can tell you, there are several 756 00:30:50,315 --> 00:30:52,929 antenna arrays here that are absolutely connected 757 00:30:52,954 --> 00:30:54,852 to some sort of government activity. 758 00:30:55,778 --> 00:30:58,997 So, the question is did they play a role in the 2004 events? 759 00:31:15,635 --> 00:31:17,166 Lou Elizondo has returned 760 00:31:17,191 --> 00:31:18,807 from his mission to Catalina Island. 761 00:31:19,237 --> 00:31:20,423 Brother Steve, how are you? 762 00:31:20,448 --> 00:31:21,063 Good. 763 00:31:21,354 --> 00:31:22,128 Got a few minutes? 764 00:31:22,153 --> 00:31:22,666 Yes. 765 00:31:22,814 --> 00:31:25,189 He's meeting with his team member, Steve Justice, 766 00:31:25,214 --> 00:31:28,689 one of the most respected aviation experts in the US. 767 00:31:28,752 --> 00:31:30,291 Got a couple questions for ya. 768 00:31:30,316 --> 00:31:32,408 As the Director of Advanced Technologies 769 00:31:32,433 --> 00:31:33,878 at Lockheed Martin Skunk Works, 770 00:31:34,408 --> 00:31:36,798 Justice led the highly-classified development 771 00:31:36,823 --> 00:31:39,228 of America's F-117 Nighthawk Stealth Fighter. 772 00:31:40,503 --> 00:31:42,202 Elizondo wants to explore the theory 773 00:31:42,485 --> 00:31:44,203 that what the pilots from the USS Nimitz 774 00:31:44,228 --> 00:31:47,230 and others witness was in fact a top-secret government 775 00:31:47,255 --> 00:31:48,923 test that they hadn't been briefed on. 776 00:31:50,478 --> 00:31:52,336 Steve Justice worked at Lockheed Martin, 777 00:31:52,361 --> 00:31:55,370 which is entrusted with billions of taxpayer dollars 778 00:31:55,395 --> 00:31:58,204 to build some of the most advanced weapon systems in the world. 779 00:31:58,229 --> 00:32:00,088 It's possible in this case that there is some 780 00:32:00,764 --> 00:32:03,900 very secret military aircraft program 781 00:32:04,602 --> 00:32:09,139 that is so secret and is shared with so few people 782 00:32:09,164 --> 00:32:11,492 that Lue Elizondo doesn't know about it. 783 00:32:11,853 --> 00:32:15,375 So Steve, I can't completely eliminate 784 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,555 the fact that those type of velocities 785 00:32:19,197 --> 00:32:21,891 potentially, potentially are achievable 786 00:32:22,355 --> 00:32:24,641 with certain technologies we have. 787 00:32:26,366 --> 00:32:28,514 In the 2004 Nimitz incident, 788 00:32:28,539 --> 00:32:31,395 a Tic Tac-shaped UFO had allegedly reached velocities 789 00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:33,916 as high as 30 times the speed of sound. 790 00:32:34,689 --> 00:32:37,867 Does this technology look like anything 791 00:32:37,892 --> 00:32:40,953 you worked on while you're at Skunk Works, 792 00:32:41,603 --> 00:32:44,813 and could this have been one of those technologies? 793 00:32:45,336 --> 00:32:46,912 No, I'm not gonna talk about anything 794 00:32:46,937 --> 00:32:48,203 I did with Skunk Works. 795 00:32:48,238 --> 00:32:49,166 While his work 796 00:32:49,191 --> 00:32:50,570 at Lockheed Martin is classified, 797 00:32:51,023 --> 00:32:52,734 Justice is aware of a test flight 798 00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:54,946 that happened the same week as the Nimitz incident, 799 00:32:56,490 --> 00:32:59,076 when NASA launched a hypersonic, unmanned craft, 800 00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:02,427 the X-43 Scramjet, in the same airspace. 801 00:33:03,448 --> 00:33:05,129 Well, the X-43's interesting. 802 00:33:05,424 --> 00:33:08,455 You know, the fact that it flew in this timeframe 803 00:33:09,176 --> 00:33:10,236 can make it a suspect. 804 00:33:10,261 --> 00:33:12,754 Let's sit back and analyze it from several perspectives. 805 00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:16,269 Here's a photo from NASA of the X-43, 806 00:33:16,488 --> 00:33:18,271 hanging on the wing of a B-52. 807 00:33:18,296 --> 00:33:19,823 You can see the work crews. 808 00:33:20,277 --> 00:33:22,647 Well, they said they saw a 40-foot vehicle. 809 00:33:22,672 --> 00:33:24,586 Whatever this Tic Tac was was 40 feet, 810 00:33:24,776 --> 00:33:26,956 and that is backed up by radar and the video. 811 00:33:27,784 --> 00:33:28,956 So the speed itself. 812 00:33:30,776 --> 00:33:32,253 The X-43 was hypersonic, 813 00:33:32,278 --> 00:33:34,331 which means it was Mach 5 or above. 814 00:33:35,086 --> 00:33:36,660 So here's what it takes to accelerate. 815 00:33:39,010 --> 00:33:40,871 That's a huge signature, man. 816 00:33:40,871 --> 00:33:42,377 I mean, that's just... 817 00:33:42,402 --> 00:33:44,958 Everybody's gonna see that thing for a hundred miles. 818 00:33:45,668 --> 00:33:47,620 So that, to me, disqualifies. 819 00:33:48,058 --> 00:33:51,527 That's a disqualifying element in and of itself. 820 00:33:52,340 --> 00:33:53,066 What altitude? 821 00:33:53,274 --> 00:33:55,204 Well, here's the strange part. 822 00:33:55,229 --> 00:33:56,766 It was seen at a lot of altitudes, 823 00:33:56,791 --> 00:33:59,719 anywhere between 80,000 feet down to sea level. 824 00:34:00,032 --> 00:34:00,546 Okay. 825 00:34:01,290 --> 00:34:03,977 Hypersonic vehicles that we work on today 826 00:34:04,336 --> 00:34:06,454 wanna be above 50,000 feet. 827 00:34:06,798 --> 00:34:09,035 As we step back and look at all the different 828 00:34:09,060 --> 00:34:12,450 pieces of evidence that we have in this image 829 00:34:13,975 --> 00:34:16,013 that we have from that incident, 830 00:34:16,038 --> 00:34:18,857 you don't see any exhaust plumes, 831 00:34:20,243 --> 00:34:23,779 and they would show up in this type of image. 832 00:34:24,533 --> 00:34:28,978 Um, the shape is wrong, the flight regime, 833 00:34:29,003 --> 00:34:32,042 the point of the sky that it flies is wrong. 834 00:34:32,067 --> 00:34:33,667 How it flies is wrong. 835 00:34:34,309 --> 00:34:35,700 Now the parts that we have right 836 00:34:35,725 --> 00:34:38,067 are some hypersonic velocities. 837 00:34:38,324 --> 00:34:40,327 Without going into specific technologies, 838 00:34:40,538 --> 00:34:42,800 you did a lot of work for the Skunk Works 839 00:34:42,825 --> 00:34:44,303 and I'm just kinda curious. 840 00:34:44,467 --> 00:34:48,449 Does this scenario fit a common pattern 841 00:34:48,474 --> 00:34:53,007 the way you guys test your classified programs? 842 00:34:53,032 --> 00:34:55,034 I'm not even gonna talk about 843 00:34:55,462 --> 00:34:57,367 how we test classified stuff. 844 00:34:57,660 --> 00:35:01,087 It's possible but it means that somebody would know. 845 00:35:01,112 --> 00:35:03,188 Doesn't mean everybody would know, 846 00:35:03,188 --> 00:35:05,011 but some people would know 847 00:35:05,036 --> 00:35:08,019 that you're gonna be operating near that area. 848 00:35:08,697 --> 00:35:11,075 So it's, it's possible. 849 00:35:11,547 --> 00:35:13,549 Um, you know if, 850 00:35:13,574 --> 00:35:18,327 if the admiral in charge didn't make a report, 851 00:35:19,330 --> 00:35:20,986 it could be because 852 00:35:22,253 --> 00:35:24,423 you know it was an operational test. 853 00:35:25,461 --> 00:35:27,530 Not everybody gets to know everything. 854 00:35:29,844 --> 00:35:31,624 I would love it if it turned out 855 00:35:31,649 --> 00:35:34,828 that these were secret US aircraft 856 00:35:34,853 --> 00:35:36,431 that were developed in some remote, 857 00:35:36,456 --> 00:35:39,079 underground facility and that we've achieved 858 00:35:39,104 --> 00:35:40,713 that kind of technological breakthrough. 859 00:35:40,738 --> 00:35:41,814 That would be fabulous. 860 00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:43,518 Here are the reasons that we don't 861 00:35:43,543 --> 00:35:44,979 think that is in fact the case. 862 00:35:45,821 --> 00:35:48,766 We do not operate test aircraft 863 00:35:48,791 --> 00:35:50,931 in the vicinity of carrier battle groups 864 00:35:50,956 --> 00:35:52,908 without some prior coordination. 865 00:35:53,177 --> 00:35:55,463 It would be completely uncharacteristic 866 00:35:55,488 --> 00:35:56,833 of the military to operate 867 00:35:56,858 --> 00:35:59,136 in such a strange, haphazard manner. 868 00:35:59,453 --> 00:36:01,553 If that did happen, it would probably 869 00:36:01,578 --> 00:36:02,749 happen only once. 870 00:36:02,850 --> 00:36:04,943 Those people would be replaced in a hurry. 871 00:36:05,467 --> 00:36:06,576 It's hard to conceive 872 00:36:06,601 --> 00:36:09,020 of a secret military test program 873 00:36:09,373 --> 00:36:11,406 that explains all of these instances, 874 00:36:11,613 --> 00:36:13,843 not just here in The United States but around the world. 875 00:36:13,952 --> 00:36:16,584 I would love it if it turned out to be the case 876 00:36:16,609 --> 00:36:18,804 that these were secret US aircraft 877 00:36:18,829 --> 00:36:22,696 that were developed in some remote underground facility, 878 00:36:22,909 --> 00:36:24,744 and that we've achieved that kind 879 00:36:24,769 --> 00:36:25,978 of technological breakthrough. 880 00:36:26,003 --> 00:36:27,017 That would be fabulous. 881 00:36:27,071 --> 00:36:28,651 Here are the reasons that we don't think 882 00:36:28,676 --> 00:36:30,063 that is in fact the case. 883 00:36:30,652 --> 00:36:32,070 First of all, the videos 884 00:36:32,095 --> 00:36:34,047 that were released were declassified, 885 00:36:34,072 --> 00:36:36,109 and went through a formal declassification process. 886 00:36:36,134 --> 00:36:38,210 If those were secret US aircraft vehicles, 887 00:36:38,235 --> 00:36:40,413 they wouldn't have survived that scrub of that review. 888 00:36:40,949 --> 00:36:44,976 Secondly, we do not operate test aircraft 889 00:36:45,001 --> 00:36:48,063 in the vicinity of carrier battle groups, as a rule. 890 00:36:48,323 --> 00:36:50,797 Certainly not without some prior coordination. 891 00:36:51,197 --> 00:36:54,366 The military is extraordinarily careful 892 00:36:54,391 --> 00:36:56,142 to avoid incidents and mishaps. 893 00:36:56,167 --> 00:36:58,876 So, it would be completely uncharacteristic 894 00:37:00,581 --> 00:37:01,748 of the military to operate in 895 00:37:01,748 --> 00:37:03,656 such a strange, haphazard manner. 896 00:37:03,681 --> 00:37:06,633 Thirdly, myself and my colleagues 897 00:37:06,658 --> 00:37:10,008 have pulled every thread and run every trap. 898 00:37:10,478 --> 00:37:13,016 I was on the committee that reviewed all those programs. 899 00:37:13,041 --> 00:37:16,110 There was nothing like that on the drawing boards when I was in the Pentagon. 900 00:37:16,427 --> 00:37:18,802 Steve worked at the Skunk Works at Lockheed Martin. 901 00:37:18,827 --> 00:37:21,110 He's not aware of anything remotely like this. 902 00:37:21,492 --> 00:37:23,428 Lue ran all the traps in the Pentagon, 903 00:37:23,453 --> 00:37:24,954 checked with the Army, Navy. 904 00:37:24,979 --> 00:37:27,416 Everybody said those are not ours, definitively. 905 00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:30,017 So while we can't prove the negative, 906 00:37:30,666 --> 00:37:33,418 the evidence we have suggests these are not US vehicles. 907 00:37:38,263 --> 00:37:39,863 You've been out on the road a lot, okay? 908 00:37:40,223 --> 00:37:44,552 And it seems like more people are coming forward. 909 00:37:45,237 --> 00:37:46,542 Anything change your mind? 910 00:37:48,222 --> 00:37:50,533 No, it's only reinforced our original position 911 00:37:50,558 --> 00:37:52,222 to be honest with you. 912 00:37:57,569 --> 00:37:59,698 We've come a long way in just eight months. 913 00:37:59,723 --> 00:38:01,098 A real long way. 914 00:38:01,123 --> 00:38:04,208 We have all the pilots that flew that day 915 00:38:04,233 --> 00:38:06,098 that were involved in the alleged 916 00:38:06,123 --> 00:38:08,122 Tic Tac incident have come forward. 917 00:38:08,147 --> 00:38:09,624 I think that's huge. 918 00:38:09,624 --> 00:38:11,483 Lou Elizondo, Tom DeLonge, 919 00:38:11,524 --> 00:38:14,288 Chris Mellon, and the team have made major breakthroughs 920 00:38:14,313 --> 00:38:17,336 in their investigation of the 2004 Tic Tac event. 921 00:38:18,242 --> 00:38:20,328 We've actually learned some more information, 922 00:38:20,353 --> 00:38:22,321 believe it or not, what happened that day, 923 00:38:22,346 --> 00:38:23,970 some very compelling information. 924 00:38:23,995 --> 00:38:27,493 I am delighted that we are able to give voice 925 00:38:28,099 --> 00:38:31,028 to these military personnel and their experiences. 926 00:38:31,249 --> 00:38:34,177 But um, these guys, and what we're up against, 927 00:38:34,202 --> 00:38:36,202 is overcoming this incredible stigma 928 00:38:36,227 --> 00:38:37,662 that surrounds this topic. 929 00:38:39,780 --> 00:38:41,756 The mysterious UFO encounters 930 00:38:41,781 --> 00:38:44,127 over the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group 931 00:38:44,152 --> 00:38:45,944 are finally coming into focus. 932 00:38:47,066 --> 00:38:49,115 The team as corroborated the accounts 933 00:38:49,115 --> 00:38:50,995 of four military eyewitnesses. 934 00:38:51,317 --> 00:38:53,323 Two fighter pilots who say they were sent 935 00:38:53,348 --> 00:38:55,489 to hunt down one of the Tic Tac-shaped UFOs. 936 00:38:57,519 --> 00:38:59,809 We couldn't help but admit that we saw it, 937 00:38:59,834 --> 00:39:02,144 because we all saw it together. 938 00:39:02,833 --> 00:39:06,201 Do we wanna not do anything and just hope they're nice? 939 00:39:06,865 --> 00:39:08,419 And two radar personnel 940 00:39:08,444 --> 00:39:10,161 who say they tracked an entire fleet 941 00:39:10,186 --> 00:39:12,544 of Tic Tacs over the course of four days. 942 00:39:12,978 --> 00:39:14,855 We are getting our assess kicked right here. 943 00:39:16,122 --> 00:39:17,615 According to one of the sonar guys, 944 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,522 they were going 70-plus knots under the water. 945 00:39:20,257 --> 00:39:22,257 They pretty much just went wherever they wanted. 946 00:39:24,536 --> 00:39:26,607 When you look at this problem holistically, 947 00:39:26,632 --> 00:39:28,713 you start seeing patterns emerging. 948 00:39:29,841 --> 00:39:31,113 For over 70 years, 949 00:39:31,426 --> 00:39:34,395 the US military investigated UFO sightings. 950 00:39:36,153 --> 00:39:38,551 In thousands of documents, the UFOs 951 00:39:38,576 --> 00:39:40,817 are often described as saucers or discs, 952 00:39:41,061 --> 00:39:42,591 but there are also reports of shapes 953 00:39:42,616 --> 00:39:45,193 eerily similar to the 40-foot long Tic Tac 954 00:39:45,327 --> 00:39:46,724 the Nimitz pilots encountered. 955 00:39:47,708 --> 00:39:50,825 This 1964 report describes a flying object 956 00:39:51,125 --> 00:39:52,606 shaped like a butane tank 957 00:39:52,860 --> 00:39:54,481 and as long as a telephone pole. 958 00:39:55,837 --> 00:39:58,290 The more similarities we can find, 959 00:39:58,315 --> 00:39:59,860 the more congruences we can identity. 960 00:39:59,885 --> 00:40:01,929 The more congruences we can identity 961 00:40:02,180 --> 00:40:04,057 I think the more we'll be able 962 00:40:04,082 --> 00:40:05,832 to make an honest determination 963 00:40:06,570 --> 00:40:08,022 of what these things are doing. 964 00:40:08,578 --> 00:40:09,913 It wasn't until 2009 965 00:40:10,282 --> 00:40:11,760 that Elizondo says the Pentagon 966 00:40:11,785 --> 00:40:13,679 was able to establish a larger pattern. 967 00:40:13,704 --> 00:40:14,851 In the early stages of AATIP, 968 00:40:14,876 --> 00:40:15,883 we're collecting anything 969 00:40:15,908 --> 00:40:17,914 and everything related to, frankly, this phenomenon. 970 00:40:17,939 --> 00:40:19,404 We had reports coming from the Navy. 971 00:40:19,429 --> 00:40:20,710 We had pilot's reports. 972 00:40:20,735 --> 00:40:22,182 We had gun camera footage. 973 00:40:22,207 --> 00:40:23,322 We had radar returns. 974 00:40:23,347 --> 00:40:26,050 We had investigations that were done by highly-trained people. 975 00:40:26,075 --> 00:40:27,983 Some of the observations began 976 00:40:28,008 --> 00:40:29,308 to really get into focus in 2009. 977 00:40:37,835 --> 00:40:38,981 Former Deputy Assistant 978 00:40:39,006 --> 00:40:41,194 Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, Chris Mellon, 979 00:40:41,669 --> 00:40:43,154 has obtained a briefing document 980 00:40:43,482 --> 00:40:45,928 created by the Pentagon's secret UFO unit. 981 00:40:47,201 --> 00:40:49,662 The presentation contains a global map of hotspots 982 00:40:49,662 --> 00:40:53,374 where US and other military assets encountered UFOs. 983 00:40:54,014 --> 00:40:55,756 This is an example of the kind of data 984 00:40:55,781 --> 00:40:58,599 that is available and hasn't been pulled 985 00:40:58,624 --> 00:41:00,357 because nobody's in charge. 986 00:41:00,766 --> 00:41:02,717 Nobody's analyzing the issues. 987 00:41:03,521 --> 00:41:06,350 The red dots are reported UFO activity, 988 00:41:07,394 --> 00:41:09,466 blue are military facilities. 989 00:41:10,093 --> 00:41:11,890 This official Department of Defense map 990 00:41:12,265 --> 00:41:13,913 has never been released to the public. 991 00:41:14,171 --> 00:41:19,006 Within this large circle is Baja, San Diego, 992 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,964 and then the Navy's exercise operating area 993 00:41:22,989 --> 00:41:24,620 where they conduct fleet exercises. 994 00:41:25,381 --> 00:41:27,855 So here we have a document that says 995 00:41:28,552 --> 00:41:31,263 The United States is defenseless 996 00:41:31,288 --> 00:41:35,067 against a threat that we have identified, 997 00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:40,044 an extraordinary and alarming report. 998 00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:42,568 And here we are 10 years later, 999 00:41:42,846 --> 00:41:44,252 essentially in the same position. 1000 00:41:45,814 --> 00:41:48,345 The Pentagon unit suggested the US military 1001 00:41:48,370 --> 00:41:50,249 would be unable to defend itself 1002 00:41:50,274 --> 00:41:52,406 against the UFO's hyper advanced technology. 1003 00:41:54,632 --> 00:41:56,757 Those hotspots were seen 1004 00:41:57,507 --> 00:41:59,585 all the way back in 1950. 1005 00:41:59,975 --> 00:42:02,233 The fact that we continue to see these things 1006 00:42:02,258 --> 00:42:05,084 in our airspace, over our military equities 1007 00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:07,038 time and time again, and we still don't know 1008 00:42:07,063 --> 00:42:08,577 what it is and where it's coming from, 1009 00:42:08,602 --> 00:42:11,781 at this point just throw the white flag up and give up. 1010 00:42:12,357 --> 00:42:13,942 The briefing was created 1011 00:42:13,942 --> 00:42:15,762 for a presentation to senior defense officials 1012 00:42:15,996 --> 00:42:18,418 and warns if the government continues to ignore the threat, 1013 00:42:18,946 --> 00:42:21,152 America's adversaries could crack the technology 1014 00:42:21,531 --> 00:42:23,255 and develop deadly new weapons 1015 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,872 that would disrupt the balance of power. 1016 00:42:26,118 --> 00:42:27,828 This is a live activity. 1017 00:42:28,727 --> 00:42:31,230 We don't know what it is, even after all this research. 1018 00:42:31,355 --> 00:42:34,792 If they are a potential adversary, like Russia or China, 1019 00:42:34,817 --> 00:42:37,425 that's made some huge leap in technology, 1020 00:42:37,450 --> 00:42:38,645 we better know about it. 1021 00:42:39,369 --> 00:42:41,598 Given some of these capabilities that are demonstrated, 1022 00:42:42,388 --> 00:42:45,247 they could very easily shut out the lights. 1023 00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:52,700 We know this is happening now. 1024 00:42:52,725 --> 00:42:53,841 We know it's real. 1025 00:42:54,094 --> 00:42:56,974 And until we get some answers, we shouldn't rest easy. 1026 00:42:58,575 --> 00:43:00,763 This is not a Navy problem. 1027 00:43:00,850 --> 00:43:02,997 This is not an Air Force problem. 1028 00:43:03,022 --> 00:43:05,059 This is not an intelligence community problem. 1029 00:43:05,084 --> 00:43:08,042 This may be a much bigger, holistic, global problem. 1030 00:43:09,915 --> 00:43:11,227 These guys are obsessed. 1031 00:43:12,718 --> 00:43:14,656 They spent their life defending the country, 1032 00:43:14,690 --> 00:43:17,884 and now they're confronted with a phenomenon. 1033 00:43:19,854 --> 00:43:21,721 That potentially could be threatening. 1034 00:43:23,439 --> 00:43:25,143 Chris and Lou repeatedly say listen. 1035 00:43:25,535 --> 00:43:27,535 I know everybody thinks of little green men, 1036 00:43:27,669 --> 00:43:29,324 but we're not there yet. 1037 00:43:31,186 --> 00:43:33,709 What we gotta do first is not treat it 1038 00:43:33,893 --> 00:43:35,795 as this backwater issue that nobody wants 1039 00:43:35,820 --> 00:43:37,196 to touch, nobody wants to look at. 1040 00:43:42,217 --> 00:43:44,850 On the next Unidentified. 1041 00:43:44,875 --> 00:43:46,678 Kevin Day provided us the latitudes 1042 00:43:46,703 --> 00:43:48,835 and the longitudes that these things 1043 00:43:48,860 --> 00:43:50,257 seem to be going towards. 1044 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,039 We can actually now go to the location 1045 00:43:53,064 --> 00:43:54,474 and try to figure out if there's 1046 00:43:54,499 --> 00:43:56,024 any type of correlation at all. 1047 00:43:56,539 --> 00:43:57,960 This is the part of the Nimitz story 1048 00:43:57,987 --> 00:43:59,403 that not only has never been told, 1049 00:43:59,888 --> 00:44:01,179 has never really been explored.