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Yeah, so I'll be watching here...

He couldn't know that at this very moment,

people meeting in secret all over the country

were holding up their glasses and saying, in hushed voices,

"To Harry Potter, The Boy Who Lived."

- Dan. - Hey, man.

- It's great to see you. - How are you doing, dude?

- How are you, man? - Nice. So nice to see you.

This is awesome.

- This is incredible. - Yeah, it is.

Last time we were here, you were shorter.

Just, just very, very slightly, that's kind of you to say.

- Here we are. - Twenty years down the road.

- Yeah. - It's kind of odd.

How did it come to you? Like, I never... I would never get to ask this question.

Like, how did you end up doing Harry Potter?

I ended up doing it because my daughter, Eleanor,

convinced me to read the books after I refused three times.

- So once Prisoner of Azkaban came out... - Thank you, Eleanor.

I said, "Okay, I'll read these finally."

And then immediately I saw the movies, I just saw them.

And that hasn't happened since.

Then I had to fly to Attenborough to meet Jo Rowling

and essentially said, "This is my vision."

She said "That's exactly the way I see the movie."

When the books came out, the queues of kids around the block

I mean, thousands of them, all waiting for the latest run.

So many people were beginning to fall in love

with JK Rowling's writing.

I think I probably would've been about eight years old.

I think that's when the first one came out.

It became like our family thing. My dad used to do all the voices.

And my brother and I just became obsessed.

We would just beg him to keep going.

And every time we finished a chapter, we'd be like,

"One more, one more. Please? Just one more."

Please, please, please, one more..

A friend of mine at school, he had the first two.

I went for a sleepover at his house.

And he said, "Well, Philosopher's Stone's there on the bookshelf."

That's what we did. It's the whole sleepover.

We just sat there in silence, him reading Chamber of Secrets,

me reading Philosopher's Stone.

And that was it, really. I never looked back.

At the time of reading, we instantly

related to Fred and George because there aren't many twins in literature.

The Chamber of Secrets was the first book

that I'd sort of genuinely stayed up at night reading.

The writing was so vivid

the characters so relatable.

It was such a intricately perfectly-designed universe.

I think it's very easy to forget that at the time

people were talking about the death of reading.

I just think it's a beautiful creative outlook on life,

this belief in limitless possibilities.

One of the many reasons I admire JK so much is that millions

who don't read books,

who had never have lifted a book up in their lives,

and you suddenly realize the power of writing.

Hip, hip, Harry!

And in the terms of casting, it was... the search for Harry Potter was insane.

The new Harry Potter film are looking for children

to play the three main roles in the multimillion pound film.

I remember going to the, the very first audition

and there was hundreds, if not thousands of people.

And then we realized that we were the only set of twins there

who weren't wearing identical clothing,

so we ended up going over the road and bought two identical matching, uh, tops.

Just off the rack. They're like, "Right, they will do."

And then off we went.

They'd let us all mill, you know, sort of congregate.

So they seemingly walked away.

And, of course, while there's still one gentleman holding a boom mic

straight over our heads

and this little girl asked me, "What's that?"

I think I even said, "It's a mic, duh."

And I was like "They're filming us. This is just like a trick."

Like as if I've done it before, really. And I remember it because it was Emma.

I became completely gripped by the excitement around this audition.

And I always knew that I was going for Hermione

in a way that I think terrified my parents because they were like,

"What are we gonna do with her if she doesn't get the part?"

I was just excited. I wasn't sort of daunted, I wasn't thinking,

"I wonder how many films they're gonna make." Anything like that.

I thought, "Oh, this will be fun."

I think the biggest pressure at the beginning

was who was gonna be Harry Potter.

We couldn't find Harry.

We could... we just couldn't find Harry.

And it was getting kind of weird. Um, I'm panicky.

I was in my hotel room in London

one night watching the BBC version of David Copperfield.

Immediately, a light bulb went off in my head and I said,

"This is Harry Potter.

This is the kid we've been looking for for months."

So I asked the casting director and said,

"We've got to get him in here for an audition."

She said, "It's never gonna happen.

His parent's do not want him involved in this world.

They don't want him to take this role."

I think the deal was to sign on for,

like all seven films and they would be filmed in LA.

So mum and dad were like, "No, that's like a huge disruption to his life."

Fortunately, David Hey man, uh, went to the theater a few weeks later.

These two guys in the row in front of me started, sort of, turning around.

David, being the great producer that he is,

convinced Dan's father to bring Dan in for an audition.

And that's basically when we got our Harry Potter.

And action.

That's a dragon egg.

- What is it? That's... - That's what that is.

- What is that? - A dragon egg.

Yeah.

I was a very happy kid who had a really haunted quality apparently.

"You're really sweet, but you look like you have real, like, stuff going on."

It was very emotional, actually, seeing this kid sitting there, talking,

and I just thought, "Yup, that's him. Thank God we found him."

Rupert and Emma were very easy to cast

because they felt like they jumped off the page.

We screen tested the three of them together to make sure

that they all had this chemistry,

which immediately was obvious in the first screen test.

Remember, guys, get closer to her as she finds out the information.

And action.

I never thought to look in here.

I checked this out last time for a bit of light reading.

This is "light?"

Shut up.

If Filch comes around the corner any second now,

at least 50 points off Gryffindor.

I knew it! Here it is.

Nicolas Flamel is the only known maker of the Sorcerer's Stone.

- The what? - The what?

Oh, honestly, don't you two read?

Cut. Good job.

- It's lovely seeing you. - Dear. This is surreal, isn't it?

How do we all feel being back and talking about this?

We're, A, really emotional... obviously.

And B, um, it feels like no time has passed,

and loads of time has passed simultaneously.

Yeah, kind of much the same, it's quite surreal.

It doesn't feel like much time has passed.

It doesn't feel like we kind of earned a reunion yet.

- Yeah. - I know.

I have had kidney stones and a baby at the same time.

- It's honestly passed. - You did mention that.

- I feel my age. - But there is like such a

collection of, like, shared memories

and stuff that we just all did together that is, is immediately very easy to be,

like, to sort of slip back into where you were.

Our first audition, the day we all met...

- Oh, my God. Yeah. - I think for the first time,

there was like me walking out of my dressing room and seeing like another,

like, young, brown-head boy going the other way, never saw his face,

but I was like you were clearly another Harry

that is being tested out today and they were like

testing us with various different configurations

of Ron, Harry, and Hermione.

I remember there was one where they put all the three of us together.

I do remember that when it was the three of us,

something felt different and, and... like, right and easy.

I do remember the click.

We've been out the studios. They told us we got the parts,

and they were like, "Cool. So we're announcing you've got the parts.

There is now going to be a lot of media outside your house

so you can't go home."

So far, it's sort of turned things upside down.

And it's.

I don't know, I've never had anything happen to me like this before.

Hermione made complete sense to me.

That's me. Like, I am that girl.

Well, Emma was arguably the smartest person on the set.

And I'm talking about everybody. She just was... she was a brilliant kid.

I think I'm scarily like my character.

So I live in a family of, um, seven,

and, um, I've got a red-headed sister and I live in a borough.

Rupert is just the most camera-ready

12-year-old boy in the world at that point.

Like, he was so, like, just

fearless.

Rupert was Ron, you know, and Dan kinda was Harry.

How do you feel about becoming famous?

It'd be cool.

We were all talking about this.

How comfortable you made us all in our auditions

and how, like, this like extended massively into the set.

My memory of it is that it seemed effortless to you.

Well, on the first film, I was dying the entire time.

But I just... I, I always believe you cannot bring that kind of anxiety.

I want everyone to feel comfortable.

I want everyone to feel like it's a family.

I want everyone to feel like they're home.

Okay, class, listen to me, welcome to your first flying lesson.

I want you to raise your hand over the broom.

The first several weeks on the film, the kids are basically in shock.

Looking back, I am sort of amazed at the fact that I wasn't ever,

like, completely overwhelmed by it.

Dan, when you turn away from her this time, you turn away.

Grab hold of this, you look up, like you're going to get it, okay?

But I also think that was, again, part of Chris and the whole crew just,

like, they'd kept us having fun the whole time.

Obviously, we were just kids.

And we were all looking forward to mucking about together.

Chris Columbus made the atmosphere very much like a fun fair.

We were very much just like kids being kids on a set acting.

My residing memory from the first

from Philosopher's Stone is I just learned how to play Slam.

You know what we did a lot of as well was Dan game, slaps.

- So much hand slaps. - Yeah.

It was like... but all of us, like, red, like, red raw hands from like hitting

I think we were taught to nothings as well; I've been like...

- Oh, and shins. - Yeah.

- I like the shin version. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I am the champion!

They probably made their jobs harder for themselves

by letting us have as much fun as we had because it distracted us from,

you know, the work we were supposed to be doing.

And for the other viewers, I got a mousetrap. Click the video.

Don't put it on your nose or you're gonna move all your makeup.

Like a big problem was like throughout a take,

our attention would, like, would wane and come and go.

They say a line and then they'd smile at the camera

where they were just so happy to be in a Harry Potter film

that they couldn't contain their excitement long enough

to focus on an entire scene.

Guys, guys, guys, guys.

Columbus had worked with kids a lot

and he was terrific with them, he really was.

He used to go down on his knees to talk to them

and huddle around so nobody could hear.

He was such a dad as well, like, uh, you could really feel that, like,

kind of part of his family.

Be a little looser with this.

And then just be talking you know what I'm saying?

Talk and you're like frozen like this but you can be

of course you can use it okay?

Good job though.

But it's not easy because it takes a tremendous amount of patience with kids,

particularly with,

with kids as hyperactive and as excitable as we all were.

Yes. We were shaping.

Fancy seeing you boys here.

- Hi, there. - Hi away.

- Couple of Gryffindors kicking it. - What's come here.

Good to see you, brother.

And how did Chris Columbus stay in such good, good spirits?

We sort of ran around... because we were all like 11.

You might get like three people to do the right thing.

But it doesn't mean you're gonna get the other five

in the background doing the right thing.

No, no, Rupert was, was relentless.

Once he started, once the floodgate opened.

But this thing that was

that's why it worked, wasn't it, because, you know

Columbus basically just let us be kids.

I never recall feeling like we're working.

But that's so important, isn't it? That we had that...

Yeah. That's why it feels that way, when you watch it, it feels like kids...

- That's true. - Yeah.

See, what's funny about that though is, is being surrounded by

all the, the cream of the, um, the British acting industry

and not have any clue who anyone is.

I thought... I thought Richard Harris worked here as a tour guide for a while.

I don't think any of the kids had the capability of understanding

the gravity of who they were dealing with at the time.

That was no stranger Hagrid met in the village.

It was Snape, which means he knows how to get past Fluffy.

- And with Dumbledore gone... - Good afternoon.

The British royalty of the acting world.

- What are you gonna say for yourself? - I swear I don't know how it happened!

When I think of the people that I got to just grow up around and hear

yeah, hear them interact and hear the, the quickness of people.

The adult actors came in and were like the mischief in a funny way.

That's actually great.

Like Robbie Coltrane.

He was such a kid, like, so immature, and, like,

just so much fun.

He loved making us laugh and he was incredibly good at it.

I tried absolutely everything. I've tried creams. I've tried jellies.

I tried shaving.

Every moment I woke up, it's like my husband is threatening to leave me

and if he really loves me, he wouldn't mind a little facial hair,

I'm sure, but he's being very, very, difficult.

That, like, kindness and that warmth from you

it made all the difference.

- Well, we spent so much time together. - I know. I know.

I spent more time with you than I did with my own children at one point.

I know. Wild. Ooh. I know.

I think most of my favorite scenes

if I'm honest, looking back, uh, with you and the gang in Hagrid's hut.

I keep thinking about that scene when I get called the Mudblood.

And you were so sweet with me that day.

Because it was like my first like, you know, big piece of acting.

He called me a Mudblood.

He did not.

What's a Mudblood?

It means dirty blood.

Mudblood's a really foul name for someone who was muggle-born,

someone with non-magic parents, someone like me.

The three of you have become such great actors.

Being on that set, you felt like you actually entered the world.

- Yeah. - With all of Stuart Craig sets.

The attention to detail was phenomenal.

I was always adamant that Hogwarts shouldn't feel as if

it's a world that couldn't exist in reality.

I had a tremendous amount of creative freedom,

so we could build this world from the ground up.

Some of the sets on Potter were overwhelming to me.

And I'd been doing it for 35 years, you know, don't blame me.

The very first time I visited the set,

they walked me through the Great Hall, which was mind blowing.

All the floors are real York stone.

A lot of those things were children and 50 extras and they're all about

eating and trampling round and you're not gonna put a plastic floor down this.

It's got to be the real stuff.

And all these lit candles going up and down them wires.

One of my favorite moments on set ever was the moment

when all the floating candles started burning through the ropes

that tied them to the ceiling,

and just started falling around the Great Hall.

- Hundreds of real candles... - Oh, my God.

That were really lit on a fishing line from the ceiling.

So much of that would be visual effects now,

the fact that we got to I think beyond that set.

It was so cool.

- Thank you, Stuart Craig. - Yeah.

- Ah! We love you, Stuart Craig. - Yeah.

The hardest scene to shoot was Quidditch

and the audience had to understand the rules immediately.

Quidditch is easy enough to understand.

Each team has seven players, three chasers, two beaters,

one keeper and a seeker.

That's you.

So, Jo Rowling basically did a rulebook for us,

a Quidditch rulebook explaining every detail of the game.

Then with Stuart Craig, our production designer,

designed the look of the Quidditch pitch,

and really create a pitch that felt authentic and real

for a game that is completely unreal.

Lots of energy, enthusiasm. Set and action.

She scores!

Angelina Johnson scores! Ten points for Gryffindor.

I always wanted to tell you this, but there was a moment,

on day two maybe or three,

the camera pushes into you and you say, "We're not going home, not really."

It feels strange to be going home, doesn't it?

I'm not going home. Not really.

I got tear... I still get tears in my eyes thinking about it.

I thought this guy... this kid is an amazing actor.

And it was that moment that kind of opened up the whole world for us

and the first film was very storybook. It's very inviting.

- Lovely and welcome to Hogwarts. - Until you got to the end of the movie.

- And why not I melt a man's face. - Yes. Exactly.

- The, uh, first film was a hit. - Yup.

So once it became a hit and people accepted not only the film,

- but accepted the cast... - Right. Yeah.

I had a ball on the second film...

The Chamber of Secrets because I was, like, free.

Okay. Come on. Shh. Shh.

Okay. Come on.

Morning, Weasleys.

Good morning, dad!

I always loved any scene where

the kind of Weasleys were together like the Burrow scenes.

It just had this frenetic energy. Everyone kind of played off each other.

The thing about the Burrows I remember is that it changed all the time.

It sort of expanded and contracted was a huge fireplace of floo powder

and then it was just... and then it got smaller.

Yeah, it was like a living, breathing set that changed.

I feel like being a Weasley is the best part of being in Harry Potter.

We had like a Hogwarts family

that I felt like so special having an actual extra family.

And all the scenes that we got on top of everything else.

Julie's brilliant to work with.

They used to run up and say, "Hello, Mommy. Hello, daddy."

Julie Walters who played my mother, Mrs. Weasley, was,

was just so wonderful and brilliant to me.

She really kind of took me under her wing

and she just was like the perfect mother figure.

The twins were two people I was really close with.

They really were like older brothers. Julie Walters and Mark Williams,

they were like my second family.

They were always kind of staying in character

and they would have this kind of... they would bounce off each other.

- Dumbledore myth... - Who? Who did?

Dumbledore must know you're here, Harry.

Cut.

Stop. Stop. This isn't working.

I can't believe it.

- You guys look great. - Hello.

How are you? This is amazing. How you guys doing?

- How are you? - Good. This is so exciting.

It's first time I've been back since Azkaban.

We didn't know you were gonna come back.

The Weasley family values, consideration,

thoughtfulness and fun.

Now Harry, you must know all about Muggles.

Tell me, what exactly is the function of a rubber duck?

It's just very natural when we were all together.

It, it was a family, you know what I mean? In all but name.

That's the cool thing about it as well is that you see that,

that motion where they are very inclusive.

And then you see the complete opposite with the Malfoys.

Yeah, it's always such a good comparison,

the two families, side by side, yeah.

You got a like real chalk and cheese side of it.

Now, now, Draco, play nicely.

Mr. Potter.

Lucius Malfoy, we meet at last.

I was first aware of Harry Potter

because everybody was reading the books on the tube everywhere I went.

I'm convinced I ended up playing Lucius because I didn't want to.

I went to audition for Gilderoy Lockhart and Chris said that was great.

Would you mind reading a different part?

I was about to play Captain Hook in Peter Pan and I thought,

well, I don't play two children's villains.

And I read through gritted teeth, I was deeply bitter.

And of course that's exactly what was necessary

and they asked me to play Lucius and thank God they did.

How dare you.

The point of him being in the story to me was to explain

why Draco was such a horrible, heartless, sadistic bully at school.

Red hair and a hand-me-down robe?

You must be a Weasley.

He's a product of his parents,

Draco, and he's got really bad parents.

If Hagrid was your first influence, chances are you're gonna be,

"All right there, mate, you're gonna be lovely and, and very huggy."

Isn't he beautiful? Oh, bless him, look, he knows his mommy.

If your dad is a psychopath wielding a cobra cane out and about

you're probably not gonna be the friendliest geezer.

Camera speed, 27, take one camera mark.

Tom? Remember

slow telling a tale, make it sinister. Soft.

Set and action.

I adored Tom from the second I met him.

He was always just the biggest sweetheart.

Working with Jason was a real treat.

In fact, working with Jason was not always a treat.

He just immediately turned into the most unfriendly,

horrible person I've ever met.

I just remember grabbing him and,

and just being as unpleasant as I possibly could

and watching his little face... constantly seeking my approval.

The very first scene that I shot

was actually cut and it's on the deleted scenes.

Draco touched something and I used this cane and I went...

Don't touch anything, Draco.

But I didn't know how sharp the teeth were.

They went right into little Tom's hands.

And he looked up at me and his eyes welled with tears.

Yes, father.

And I went Tom, I'm so sorry, I, I didn't realize how sharp they were

and how heavy it was.

And he went, "Oh, no. It's all right. It was good for the scene."

He'd be this evil father.

And when they say cut and he'll come and give you a cuddle and say,

"Oh, did I... did I hit you too hard? Did I hit you too hard?"

These really were, you know, Jekyll and Hyde, that one.

Harry Potter such an honor it is.

I remember saying to a friend, you know, I've got this part,

it's an elf in Harry Potter and the squeals of joy

and the complete despair of my not understanding

you know, how important this character was.

He'll take and he goes thank you, this will be all, and I'll swing my leg out,

and I stepped down, as I swung my stick, and Chris goes cut.

Can we clean the floor where Jason slipped, please?

And I said no, I didn't slip. He said, "Well, what happened?"

And I said I, I kicked Dobby down the stairs,

and I just thought this is gonna be ridiculously good fun.

Mr. Malfoy! Mr. Malfoy!

I have something of yours.

The sock is pathetic, isn't it, on one level, but on another level,

it's everything and that's I think the beauty of the character.

Master has given Dobby a sock.

What? I didn't...

Master has presented Dobby with clothes.

Dobby is free.

One of the major themes is this alliance of friends who endure.

So you and I had one of our greatest laughs together with Richard Harris.

And we had a animatronic version of Fawkes the Phoenix

and it was this big red bird that doesn't exist in real life.

It's not... it wasn't unrealistic, like it could I guess.

Richard came in and looked at the Phoenix and said

wow, they train these animals marvelously these days.

Because they had a camera inside the eye so they could see Richard looking at it.

And then, they were like, well, we don't wanna break the spell.

So, we'll just keep the bird reacting and moving.

And then, that, of course, you know, got into a cycle,

where Richard was like the bird is responding to me.

Oh, fascinating creatures, Phoenixes.

They can carry immensely heavy loads through their tears of healing powers.

- We never told him. - No, we never told him.

- We just thought it was a real bird. - Yeah.

It was insane that we were part of that.

I do not know of another human being

that could have started the series in the way you did.

Well, and that, that makes me feel great.

I've always felt guilty about leaving. I really did.

Don't. No.

When I said goodbye to you guys, I was, like,

I can't believe I'm leaving these guys.

And I think you... honestly, I don't think you ever get enough credit

for like what you achieved on those first two and with all of us

and so thank you so much for that.

It's been the greatest experience of my life.

You failed to recognize

that it matters not what someone is born,

but what they grow to be.

Hello.

Oh, how are you?

Oh, good. Now thank you for coming. Thanks for chatting.

Who is that? That man?

Who is that?

That is Sirius Black. That is

Sirius Black is an essential character for Harry.

It's part of Jo's themes of "don't judge a book by its cover,"

you know, the image of Sirius Black as a criminal

is one that's presented to Harry.

We have a killer on the loose.

Sirius Black, you mean? But what's he got to do with me?

And yet when Harry meets him and through the course of the third film,

he comes to learn that he's not who he has been told he was.

He is somebody very different. And Gary is such a remarkable actor.

One of the reasons we chose him

is he obviously has the potential for darkness,

but he has such soul and has such a warmth within.

Can I ask you when were, were you first approached to be Sirius?

I was aware of Harry Potter, but it, it was very much sort of kids thing.

People were telling me to read the books, and, and I have kids so

it was gonna be in my universe somewhere.

And then they were taking a slightly darker approach.

And the book was interesting, and I met Alfonso

and I think at the time, he was the main attraction.

Now remember, guys that you have to take care of your frogs.

For Azkaban, it's a coming of age.

They're passing the threshold between, childhood and their teenage years.

In the first two, Harry is still a child.

There is a greater optimism around the tone itself.

Nevertheless, when he turns 13,

there's a big cloud that overshadows everything around Harry,

and we needed to convey that also stylistically.

What's going on?

I don't know. Maybe we've broken down.

Prisoner of Azkaban felt like a whole new era really.

It was a much darker kind of story.

There was a lot of kind of quite adult themes in it.

The descriptions that JK Rowling's has of the Dementors are very scary.

And I really wanted to convey that. This sense that the Dementors,

what they do is they suck all the joy like, uh, away,

that they were sucking an essence of Harry,

but I think that the most important piece to achieve that

was Dan's performance.

When was Azkaban... how old were you?

Fourteen.

- Really? - Yeah.

- When we first met? - Yeah.

I think I had a natural sort of paternal thing.

Are you going to kill me, Harry?

The first person I remember being like in awe of when they came in was Gary.

- Was Gary Old man. - I remember that.

- I remember you giving me the... - You have me freaking out.

The Gary chant. Yeah. You were like, listen Emma, you need to be cool.

It is Gary Old man, it's a really big deal, and you need to be cool.

And I was like, okay.

I mean, which was really a projection of my own fears becausel was like,

Dan, you need to be cool. This guy's a big deal.

Dan was first a bit daunted and Gary was amazingly generous as a person,

but also as an actor and immediately embraced him

and included him in the acting process.

It was really sweet to, to see the two of them.

And it was... it was almost as if it was mirroring that relationship,

because in many ways, Harry has made a totem out of Sirius Black,

the totem that is kind of unapproachable,

and, in many ways, scary.

And then that was not unlike in the film that

when they discovered who they truly are,

is when suddenly there's an amazing bond.

You saw them between take sitting with each other talking and laughing

and you could see in the way that Dan looked at Gary

the adulation and the respect that he had for him.

All the stuff in the Shrieking Shack at the end, I feel like me,

Rupert, and Emma were just like watching tennis in that scene, just being like,

"This is acting, guys. This is what we all need to be working towards."

It was Tim Spall, the one and only Alan Rick man.

- Yup. - David Thewlis.

GARY You, Emma, Rupert.

It's really nice of you to include me, Emma, and Rupert in that group.

To watch you guys act, but also just watching you guys as people

and just watching these, like, incredible actors who are just like,

oh, yeah, no, you're just people and you'd have fun in between

and the whole process doesn't have to be painful. It can be intense.

And you showed me the wonders of that sometimes as well

and that was really important.

- Let's kill him. - Wait.

I did my waiting. Twelve years of it.

In Azkaban.

I have never done a scene with such an amazing cast in my life.

It was a very long scene.

It's a scene in which there are a lot of twists inside the scene.

And it was so much fun.

It's an intense scene in which a lot of things are at stake.

No. I trusted you.

And you can see Rupert, and Emma, and Dan

that they are completely committed to the scene.

I love it. I, I have such a great memory of it.

I told Dumbledore you were helping an old friend into the castle,

and now here's the proof.

Brilliant, Snape.

Once again, you've put your keen and penetrating mind to the task

and as usual come to the wrong conclusion.

I always loved the character Sirius.

I love the relationship Harry and Sirius have.

He's like this cool uncle but also older brother figure.

He's painted as this villainous guy, and then has the switch where you go,

oh, he was set up and he's a good guy.

And he's so kind and so warm and cool.

- And I think he's kind of cool. - Yeah.

I wish I'd had the whole picture, you know.

We only ever found out book.

I don't know whether you were because you were Harry Potter.

I did not.

- Rick man? - He had the inside line.

He worked that one?

He did. He very, very early said to Jo, he was like,

"I think I need to know what happens."

I did not.

Give me a reason. I beg you.

Rick man would have been in, wouldn't he?

He did. Yeah.

I never told Chris, I never told anyone.

He would... Chris would literally say to him,

"Why are you doing that?" And then he said, "I'll tell you later."

- Yeah, you'll find out. - Yeah, yeah.

On a need-to-know basis.

Dan was not a child actor, it was another fellow actor.

Alfonso was like, "Now you're teenagers."

"I'm gonna treat you like a teenager."

And he was the first one who, like, assigned us homework.

Loosen up. Loosen up.

He wanted to get to know us.

So he set us this exercise where he asked us to write an essay in character.

He was like, "You know these characters at this point

better than I'm ever going to be able to understand who they are so you tell me."

And after about sort of a half a side of A4,

I was like I feel like I pretty much covered everything,

like, Jo has written a good 500 pages about this,

but I feel like this one pretty much sums it up.

Great. Okay, yeah, cool that. Bring that in.

Of course, Emma writes like 12 pages, like beautifully written.

Rupert didn't deliver anything.

I didn't do it.

And I said, "Rupert, where is your assignment?"

He says, "Well, uh, I thought that Ron wouldn't do it."

"So I didn't do it."

I mean, luckily, Alfonso kind of saw

that it was very in character for, for, for me not to have done it.

Rupert is Ron.

It's just Ron hundred percent.

Emma is just such an effortless actor.

She prepares a lot.

When you're doing the scenes, it's as if everything is just flowing out of her.

The truth of the matter is that there are great actors.

Sirius Black finds a redemption by having Harry understanding

who he truly is, is a moment of, of great liberation, of great freedom.

And all of this is combined symbolically

in the two of them flying in the night under the silver moon.

- It was like a family, wasn't it? - Yeah.

It... more than any other experience.

You never have that in the movies

because you'd work with a bunch of people and you get friendly with them

and then most of them you would never see again.

But with Potter, you would come

you would come back and, well, that's what made it

amongst many things what made it very special.

It just feels like... being in these, you get to be a part of film history.

Hogwarts has been chosen to host the Triwizard Tournament.

Goblet of Fire... during all of the Triwizard Tournament stuff,

it was so lovely to be surprised and blown away,

and like taken away by the magic of the scenes and to be surprised.

Like I remember seeing the Beauxbatons come and do their entrance

and the Durmstrangs.

It was really cool.

With the fourth film, we wanted a British Director.

We wanted sound quite theatrical.

Cut! Thank you very much.

Mike is just this excited, loud, passionate man.

He was a perfect director for that film.

It was a really like, bombastic,

action-packed, wonderful, eccentric film.

I love Mike. He was great. I mean, he was almost like he was from the books.

He was like a Hogwarts... character.

The fourth book is the biggest of them. It's about 900 pages, it's a doorstop.

It's a house brick.

Action!

And I thought if it's really going to nail the little darlings

to their seats then,

it has to have this great, big, energetic core to it.

He was just this kind of like firecracker of energy.

So excited by things.

And there was this kind of really endearing like

childlike quality to, to him.

He loves the humor as well. I would always try and find it in every scene.

It was probably only a couple of films

in that I sort of started to feel nervous.

And I remember... Mike's changed when, when Columbus left,

it was definitely a bit of a different man.

There was a different vibe. I think Mike Newell... Mike treated us like adults.

That was it. He did, I suppose.

We did have fun on set.

The Weasley twins, whom I, I was very fond of, they had to fight.

We were doing the scene when Fred and George are rejected

from entering the Triwizard Tournament.

And then we had these wigs on and beards on,

what looked like old men.

And Mike said, "Okay, so I think you guys

should be really annoyed with each other.

I think you should have a fight about this."

These two was sort of, um, pressing about at it.

Cut.

And I said, "No, come on, boys. Really? It's a fight."

Mike just came over said, "No, no, no, no, no."

Okay. Who wants to fight?

And like an idiot, I was like, "Yeah, okay."

Well, of course, I was a tubby, 60-year-old gent at that, that stage.

Um, and, uh,

I, I really shouldn't have done it.

And so he dived on me, and like, just went like this.

To which, I was "Okay." So I did the same to him.

I remember gripping him around the waist and trying to fling him about,

and so forth and, uh, cracked a couple of ribs.

And so I was in absolute agony from, uh, from then on.

But, of course, the wonderful thing was

that I had made a complete twit of myself

and everybody felt much better for that.

You know when you shouldn't break a director's rib.

In the Goblet of Fire, that film is just all about teenagers,

having crushes for the first time, asking someone to the date,

to the Yule Ball.

They just mirrored all those kind of awkward phases

you go through as a teenager, and they really felt like that too,

because we were literally having the same experiences.

The amount of, like, prep and coaching Emma and I would give each other on,

like, texting to the opposite sex.

Like if we... if she was texting a boy or I was texting a girl,

it'd be like... she sent me this many cases back,

"And what do I do? This is a nightmare."

We had that kind of older brother-younger sister thing.

It was a very interesting film in terms of a lot of hormones flying around.

There was crushes and, people went out with each other,

and broke up and just like you do in just like I used to do at school.

It was exactly the same environment

but it was just in a Defense Against the Dark Arts Class.

That film was probably peak hormone, at least for me.

It was exactly what you expect,

and especially like the fourth film was the one with, like,

the Beauxbatons and the Durmstrangs.

So, like, you had a bunch of like hormonal teenagers.

Anyway, and then, like, bring in two massive groups of new people

all of them like purposefully hot for the film.

Um, so it's... yeah, it was

that, that film was, yeah, it was all kicking off.

Why do they have to travel in packs?

He is just like a slightly awkward teenage boy

in a very unremarkable way,

which I suppose feels sort of remarkable for a hero character and something.

You've slayed dragons, if you can't get a date, who can?

I think I'd take the dragon right now.

Joe wrote him very endearingly in those years

and I feel like it did not take a, a huge acting stretch for me

to tap into my, uh, awkward, nerdy teenage side.

Cho?

Yes?

I was just wondering if maybe you wanted to go to the ball with me?

Sorry, I didn't catch that.

It obviously was a coming of age story.

One of the, the big, big sequences was the Christmas ball.

The Yule Ball

is first and foremost a dance.

The scene when the students are learning to dance.

It was pretty much like a typical school dance of that age.

You've got girls on one side, boys on the other.

We were in a big room in Oxford.

Maggie's right in the middle and she says,

"Right, I'm gonna teach you to dance."

Of course she picks Rupert, and she says...

- Place your right hand on my waist. - What?

The kid's 14 and he knows how to get a laugh. It's great.

And weirdly, I felt quite self-conscious. I didn't really know

I had never danced with a lady before so it was kind of a very new thing.

Never gonna let him forget this, are you?

Never.

And yeah, of course, James, Oliver, the twins, they were

constantly kind of ruined me.

We were winding him.

- We were wind up anyway beforehand. - Before we started filming.

They kind of me convinced me before we filmed it

that there was this whole like dance routine planned.

We were like, "Do you know your steps, right?

You know, the routine, we've all been doing a routine

for like the past six weeks or something like that."

Just trying to... build the pressure.

And this week, no, you will have to lead eventually. Understood?

One of the most enchanting days was the Great Ball

because there was all these incredibly beautiful young people,

perfectly dressed.

What are those? What are those?

My dress robes.

The suits we had on were like really,

wide lapels and long sort of tails and, yeah, you didn't

you didn't feel cool at, at really any point in that.

I look like my great Aunt Tessie.

Smell like my great Aunt Tessie.

All I can remember is that like really aggressive,

like, six layer collar thing you had on?

Oh, the little frill thing, yeah.

I, actually, I kind of loved it. It was kind of... it was very Weasley.

Yeah, it was perfect.

I felt... I pulled it off. Not a lot of people can pull it off.

Emma, obviously looked beautiful and was in an incredible dress.

And, uh, me and Rupert look, like, I don't know,

Austin Powers mates, sort of, something hanging out to the side.

She looks beautiful.

For the first time, Harry and Ron, particularly Ron,

see Hermione as a young woman,

not just this kind of sidekick that they each have.

Is that Hermione Granger with Viktor Krum?

No, absolutely not.

I mean, everyone can kind of relate to those.

That's what I kind of love about these stories,

is they sit so parallel to everyone's life,

like the first school dance, and those kind of emotions,

those anxieties, insecurities.

I knew it was a big deal. And I was miserable.

I, I just knew it was the, like, duckling becomes a swan moment.

I knew there was just, like, all of this pressure suddenly.

Now, don't swing your arms, okay?

Mike Newell coached me to walk down the stairs in the dress.

"Your arms are swinging too much. You're walking too quickly.

"You need to walk slower." Like he's giving me a million different directions

about how to walk down the stairs and, of course, I fell down the stairs.

We were a bunch of very self-conscious teenagers who were like,

you're gonna learn some dance steps for this.

You trust me, don't you?

I'm not a dancer and I will never be able to dance.

Yeah, I feel like I'm pretty rigid in, in that dance scene.

Oh, look at that. Look at that. Star. Lucky man. Lucky man.

Emma and I have always loved each other, really.

I walked into the room where we were having tutoring.

The assignment that I had been given was to draw

what you thought God looked like,

and Tom had drawn a girl with a backward cap with a skateboard.

And I just don't know how to say it, like, I just fell in love with him.

I think I was in the hair and makeup chair,

and someone said something along the lines of,

"Yeah, she had a crush on you."

I used to come in everyday and look for his number

on the call sheet, it was number seven.

And if it... if, if his number was on the call sheet,

it was an extra exciting day.

He was three years above me and so for him he was like,

"You're like my little sister."

I was... I became very protective over her.

Yeah, I've always had a soft spot for, for her,

um, and that continues until today.

I think really the truth of it was Tom

was the one I could often be more vulnerable with.

There's always been something that's like, I don't know, a kinship.

Nothing has ever, ever, ever, ever, ever happened romantically with us.

We just love each other.

That's all I can say about that.

Together, one, two, three.

In the Goblet of Fire, the universe shifts and suddenly there is Voldemort.

I cast Rafe Fiennes

because he's one of the most potent actors of his generation.

And I knew that he had a great force,

just, kind of, delicate, subtle force of personality.

My sister had children who were then around 10, 11, 12. I said,

"Martha you know about this Harry Potter thing, Voldemort and that."

"What? You're being asked to play Voldemort?

You've got to do it."

And then I was shown some drawing, the design ideas for the look.

I wasn't expecting that. And I thought, "Wow, that's a strong look."

I didn't feel Voldemort was that human, I felt he was the essence of evil,

I know he's been human but he's become a snake-like thing.

So that was the voice, the sort of snake-like whispered husky,

something that I supposed I sort of whispering voice,

breath onto breath,

uh, Harry Potter.

Come to die.

Rafe wanted to be ultimately evil and other worldly,

and the best way to do that was to take his nose off.

He does have a nose, spoiler alert.

And it was covered in stickers, so he was slightly less intimidating,

uh, than on screen, except when they called action,

and for some reason I was terrified of him.

I couldn't touch you.

It took about three hours in makeup,

the painting of the hands, the nails, the teeth,

and even with my nose.

I've... I felt

strong, it felt powerful, it felt evil.

What was big was that one of the people that you assume

is gonna be very important in the story is Cedric Diggory.

In that confrontation, Cedric is killed.

Kill the spare.

- Avada... - No! Cedric!

And Harry, he manages to take the body

and crash land back at the end of the competition.

And Cedric Diggory's father believes that his son has won

and then he realized his... the kid is dead and he howls like a dog.

That's my boy!

That's my boy!

Suddenly, something completely unexpected and serious happens.

And suddenly you realize that this movie is not about life, it's about death.

It's such a massive scene because it is also he first time Harry sort feels that

kind of death of somebody young close to him.

That's a scene I remember really distinctly going,

"Oh, this is... yes, these are kids films."

My said some challenging stuff, you know?

He's back. He's back. Voldemort's back.

The moment of Cedric Diggory's death is the moment when the series comes of age.

And now the children have left childhood

and are going to have to confront the perils of adulthood

and it all comes from that moment of death.

Cedric Diggory was murdered by Lord Voldemort.

The three of them, they were in adversity

and that forges friendships as we know.

"You are protected, in short, by your ability to love!"

Said Dumbledore loudly.

"The only protection that can possibly work

against the lure of power like Voldemort's!

In spite of all the temptation you have endured,

all the suffering, you remain pure of heart."

How nice of you to let us do this in your house.

I know, it's so nice. You know what I've always wanted to do?

Let me see if we can, is get up here.

Oh. Oh, look, they really don't look very well.

They're all still here.

They're really still here. I mean, has anyone fed them?

It is so sad.

Okay. Now you can be Harry Potter.

I'll go down the right, you go down the left.

Yeah. And let's race, okay? On your mark, get set, go.

Oh, God.

Well, it's not getting down here.

Get over it.

You know what, I, I took a photograph of something.

Last night, I thought, I'm gonna just dig up these things

and I asked for your autograph.

God, right.

No, read it out. It's so nice to see you. What does it say?

Uh, "Dear HBC."

"It was a pleasure being your co-star and coaster."

- What a... what a clever pun. - That was clever.

I mean, I'm honestly still kind of pleased with that.

You were poetic. Yeah. Yeah.

"In the sense that I always up... ended up holding your coffee, I do love you."

And what does it say?

- You can share. - Oh, I can, we can share this.

No, I said, I do love you and I just wish I've been born 10 years earlier.

- I might get in with a chance. - It's all right now.

"Lots of love and thanks for being cold."

Isn't it nice? No, I should always treasure that.

- Thank you. - That is in my toilet, Dan.

There's a storm coming, Harry. We all best be ready when she does.

I was in form number five, Order of the Phoenix.

Look, I got my teeth. I brought my teeth.

She's assured me that she's done literally nothing to these

in terms of cleaning.

No, these are actual relic, it's 11 years and, uh...

- Yeah. - Yes. It smells a bit whiffy.

But, um, no but the teeth were helpful.

Okay. In they go.

- What'd you think? - Yeah. I forgotten...

- Do, do you remember me? - I remember this, yeah.

- The teeth helped. - With the character?

I think I wanted to be in camouflage.

When I was first offered it, Joe sent me a secret message saying like,

"She might not mean much from the page

but she's gonna do something significant."

With Bellatrix, it was fun because it was fostering

the childish and, uh, naughty.

I was just like... and totally anarchist.

Yeah. There's like a playfulness too with her.

- There was the playfulness. - Which is like even more disturbing.

Of course Bellatrix doesn't think she's evil.

- She thinks she's the opposite. - Right.

So I had to, sort of, construct a reason for why she should hurt people,

and why for her she is desensitized,

it makes her feel powerful.

Pity. Pity. Potter. Yeah!

Bellatrix was just this wild thing that was uncontrollable.

You can never really know what's gonna come out with her mouth next.

Very exciting for an actor because whatever she did on that tape

does not mean she's gonna do the same on the next.

I remember trying to be in charge of the scene and her just having the best time.

She's just allowed to do anything she wanted,

she could cackle, she would jump and down.

Calm down.

And say whatever she wanted and just knowing

not... trying to keep her in tow.

You filthy half-blood!

It's all right. He's just a curious lad, aren't you?

I keep wanting to go, "Shut up!"

Draco.

I killed you, didn't I?

- You killed me. But... - Yeah. I'm sorry.

Had to be done. I remember we worked on lots of spells and things

because you were a really good wizard, I was a really good witch.

And we had a real jewel and they cut the whole lot.

And I was really messed up.

Because I just thought I've been to one school for weeks.

And we were on that set for days.

Days that was in the run. I think it was really one of my first things.

And you fell into the veil, what was it the veil, what was it?

Yeah. I go through the veil.

Then there was speculation of does he come back?

- Yeah. - Can he come back from the veil?

- No, you can't. - No, you can't.

Ava Kedavra!

I always say that that was an interesting point for, for all of us as,

like, younger actors because there were certain group,

like, Maggie, David Bradley, and Alan, they known us when we were 10 or 11.

And when you came in by that point, I was like, 15, 16.

So, like, you, you and Gary, and David.

Like would treat us more like adults, I loved it.

You saw in us that, like, a few of us were, like, kind of, ready to be like.

"Uh, can you push me? Like, we, we wanna try and be actors too."

By the time we get to Order of the Phoenix,

the world is becoming more political.

And I felt we needed a director

who could handle that in an entertaining way.

David Yates works so well with actors, really pushes them in all the right way.

Progress for the sake of progress, must be discouraged.

David was just such a sweet kind of gentle guy

that just really cared so much about all of these characters.

And also we had a lot of, kind of, one-on-one with David Yates.

I went into Order of the Phoenix with the young actors in mind

and sort of thinking about how we, sort of, grow the whole thing up

and make it a little bit more adult,

and sort of thematic and a little darker.

It needed to expand and get bigger and more and more frightening.

There was big increase in scale and complexity from being childish

to influencing events and being part of the big world.

He's just a boy.

You say much more and you might as well induct him into the Order straight away.

Good. I want to join. If Voldermort's raising an army then I want to fight.

When I started, one thing that David and the studio spoke to me about was

Emma is... uh, not sure she wants to come back

to do another Potter.

Harry.

People definitely forget what she took on, and how gracefully she did it.

Dan and Rupert, they had each other. I had my cronies,

whereas Emma was not only younger, she was

she was by herself.

I did find a diary entry that was kind of like, hmm.

I can see that at times I was lonely.

We never talked about it on the film because we were all just kids.

As a 14-year-old boy, I was never gonna turn around to another 14-year-old

and be like, "Hey, how you doing? Like, is everything okay?"

Order of the Phoenix.

It was when things started getting spicy for all of us.

But you were considering pulling out? I never really spoken to you about this.

Yeah. I think, um, I think I was scared.

I don't know if you ever felt like it got to a tipping point

when you were like

- this is kind of forever now. - Yeah.

No, I had moments like that, kind of, all the way through.

I want to say I had kind of similar feelings to Emma,

kind of contemplating what life would be like if I called it a day.

But, um, we, we'd never really spoke about it,

I guess we were just going through it our own pace.

We were kind of in the moment at the time,

it just didn't really occur to us

that we were all kind of having similar, similar feelings.

Yeah. Um,

the fame thing had finally hit home, in a big way.

No one had to convince me to see it through.

The fans genuinely wanted us to succeed

and we all genuinely have each other's backs. How great is that?

It's always amazing, you know, these films mean so much to them.

They, I mean, they, they kind of grew up alongside us and helped them

with some really difficult things in their lives

and I'm just very proud to, to be a part of something

that means so much to so many.

I've been thinking about something Dumbledore said to me.

What's that?

That even though we've got a fight ahead of us,

we've got one thing that Voldemort doesn't have.

Yeah?

Something worth fighting for.

My son, Billy, we used to watch them every night.

You know, if he got the Sunday night blues, he was watching a Potter movie.

That was his safe place.

I'm really looking forward to watching the films

with my hypothetical children one day.

It's massive impact.

- It is extraordinary. - It is unbelievable.

I was writing to J.K. Rowling since I was about 11 years old

say thank you to her, to say,

I would find life a bit hopeless without Harry Potter.

Luckily for me, she read the letter and responded to it.

So I'm one of the very lucky few people

who can say J.K. Rowling was my pen friend.

The first part of the audition,

is this crazy open call, literally anyone can come.

That's my ticket, off we go. Let's go to London.

We fly, of course.

And there would be thousands of people lining up.

I remember Dan very vividly. It was on my screen test.

A mistletoe.

I remember him talking to me and I kept forgetting

that I have to talk back to him

because I'm so used to watching him on a screen.

So I would just, kind of, be like,

and I kind of think that contributed to the whole Luna Lovegood vibe

because she is a bit spacey.

Hello, everyone.

You look dreadful, Ron.

And then he found this secret world of odd bods,

of misfits, of people who have the strange power,

but who still had enormous humanity, and depth, and vulnerability.

The movie has, kind of, gave people permission

to accept parts of themselves,

so it was quite liberating to see your oddness as a super power

represented onscreen.

I remember when I first met you all.

Biggest bunch of misfits I ever set eyes on.

And here we all are.

We're still a bunch of misfits.

Well, maybe, but we've all got each other.

I was not good at school.

You be better off with Goshawk's Guide To Herbology.

I didn't have a huge amount of friends.

Watch where you're going, Longbottom.

I think it's great to be a misfit.

And I think that's possibly why it's so popular,

everyone wants to know that they do belong.

It's a great relief of loneliness I think.

I was quite a shy kid.

I could relate to that kind of feeling of

not quite knowing what your place is.

Working hard is important.

But there's something that matters even more.

Believing in yourself.

Everyone felt more like they belonged

by witnessing these characters that didn't belong.

Bonnie was kind of when she arrived she was only nine, maybe.

- Mommy, have you seen my jumper? - Yes, dear, it was on the cat.

Hello.

I always found Ginny Harry that relationship,

how that kind of slow developed

and entangling with it the whole Weasley Family,

and Harry essentially becoming a Weasley.

It was something I never really kind of expected,

especially kind of reading books.

Bonnie was the youngest one, so it was a bit like, "Oh, what, this is weird?"

Close your eyes.

And, you know, there is this kind of pressure, you know,

this is the loved sort of hero of the story.

So everyone on this set has known you for about six or seven years

and they watch you grow up.

And then they're gonna just watch you kiss. Cool. Yeah.

I mean, there's so many amazing females roles that Joe wrote

and I, I think that's really important.

I am so proud of who Bonnie and Evanna, and Katie

are and who they've become.

They've all become this incredible activists.

Every single one of those girls was like a lovely, great human being.

I tell you, I've, I've missed your company.

- Did you? Oh, thank you. - That's for sure.

Did you get anything? Because I stole quite a lot.

- Did you really? - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I should've told you.

I'm quite reassured by that because I was definitely trying to steal my wand.

And I worry that if I had I probably would've lost it by now somewhere.

But you know that it worked, Tom.

Well, I've been assured that in time with enough practice.

- This, it would work. - Yes.

But it's quite funny looking back at it now

us doing these incredibly elaborate moves and nothing happening.

And nothing happening. Except one time it did happen with me

and they said, "Okay, this time we are gonna blow up Hagrid's house."

Oh, yeah, you got to do it didn't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they said, "So we will take your cue."

"When you do your spell, it will blow up."

Yeah.

And I was actually really surprised and scared by my own reaction

because I thought, "Wow."

It was this horrible set thrill of power.

- Right. - You're like I've had that moment.

Yeah. Sure.

Just pointing my wand there and then it blew up.

It's a lot more satisfying than, you know, making a feather levitate.

Yeah.

So what was Draco doing with that weird looking cabinet?

And who were those people?

Don't you see? It was a ceremony, an initiation.

Stop it, Harry. I know where you're going with this.

- It happened, he's one of them. - One of what?

Harry is under the impression Draco Malfoy is now a Death Eater.

The child who hasn't received affection

the enabling love of the parent or the adult

can develop this anger and hatred to the world

and goes to the dark side.

You dare to talk to me like that in my own house?

So much of what Draco's journey is has to do with

whether he is or isn't trying to please his father.

In the sixth film, they make them do the worst thing ever.

It was to attempt the worst thing ever of killing Dumbledore.

And obviously we see him crumble.

Draco, years ago,

I knew a boy who made all the wrong choices.

- Please let me help you. - I don't want your help.

Don't you understand? I have to do this.

I have to kill you

or he's gonna kill me.

With Tom, what was great with Half-blood Prince

was you suddenly took this bad guy

who in the previous films had always been somewhat two dimensional.

And then we were able to give him the opportunity to explore

a far more complex and interesting journey.

And I sat down with him and I said,

"Tom, look, this is your opportunity to really shine."

I remember David Yates, uh, saying,

"If we can get just one percent of empathy or sympathy for him,

then we'll have done our job."

Do it.

To my mind, Draco is the hero. Harry's always gonna do the right thing.

Harry's always gonna make the right choice.

There's never really any dilemma for him.

Draco breaks the chains of this terrible family

who has responsibility and what he's expected to do

and to watch Tom create that struggle on screen

and really manifest all that nuance, all that complication,

all that great ethical minefield that he tiptoes through was a

it was just so impressive.

No.

Severus,

please.

Avada Kedavra.

It's obviously amazing to be back, but I... it's like it's so.

I guess like shocking that so many people

that we both thought would be around for much longer than they have been like

Helen, and Alan, and Richard, and...

Yeah.

They're like, uh, like family. You grieve in the same way.

Yeah.

- Just too soon. - Yeah.

Do not pity the dead, Harry.

Pity the living

and above all, all those who live without love.

It does not do to dwell on dreams, Harry, and forget to live.

Richard Harris was such a special,

warm person.

He was so twinkly.

Oh, Richard was classic, probably one of the funniest men I've ever met.

He was this devilish 11-year-old

trapped in a 70 plus year-old man's body.

Will you give us another 12 please?

He just had that glint in his eye,

which made him the perfect Dumbledore by the way.

He was alas Earwax.

Earwax.

Richard Griffiths was just delicious as, uh,

Mr. Dursley.

There's no such thing as magic.

He embraced his wickedness with such verve and passion.

His possum was the one that has affected him over this.

He was generous with knowledge he just like wanted to share them with you.

I wondered when I'd be seeing you, Mr. Potter.

I feel really lucky to have some, you know,

some little bit of touch with the amount of just amazing people that have passed.

I'll be very, very old one day saying like, "I knew that absolute legend."

I know I'm not to be here.

The Dark Lord himself forbade me to speak of this.

Helen McCrory played my wife.

I said, I think we just met the best actress I've ever seen in my life.

Come.

I feel lucky to have worked with her and shared just so much,

frankly, adolescent laughter on the set.

She had taught me a lot.

See, I can't even say it.

She had this ability, yeah, just to sort of

to show such, uh, empathy in her eyes.

It was a... it was a real treat to work with her.

I can teach you how to bewitch the mind and ensnare the senses.

Alan Rick man, he never talked to me like I was a child.

He always took my thoughts and opinions very seriously

which I was always very touched by.

Alan was a very dear friend.

And we had that final scene, his final scene.

It answers to you

and you only.

Does it?

I was a little intimidated by him.

His precision, his expert delivery of lines

and we sort of went toe-to-toe in a funny way, you know,

with Snape and Voldemort.

Two actors can relish metaphorically fencing with each other.

Alan was a magician in that way as an actor.

The ones that love us never really leave us.

And you can always find them

in here.

Now, remember this,

you're not alone.

The Elder Wand,

the most powerful wand ever made.

The Resurrection Stone,

the Cloak of Invisibility.

Together they make the Deathly Hallows.

Together they make one master of death.

The boy who lived.

Harry!

Come to die.

Avada Kedavra!

The measures they had taken to protect their families

made him realize more than anything else could have done.

That they really were going to come with him.

And that they knew exactly how dangerous that would be.

He wanted to tell them what that meant to him.

But he simply could not find words important enough.

It's both really cool and it... it is weird like

walking around here and seeing the sets that we were like kids

on who treated everything with the amount

of respect kids treat things when you're just there and having fun.

It's weird. I'm having, like, weird, nostalgic moments.

Do you remember my hamster? Do they all remember my hamster?

- Yes. - Millie.

I didn't remember the hamster's name, I'm sorry.

That's okay. That's okay. Rest in peace, Millie.

I remember you having a hamster and animal that was ill on set with you.

And they made a coffin for it. The carpentry department, you know.

They did. Yeah. When Millie died, the set designers built Millie

her own custom-made wooden coffin that had velvet on the inside of it.

It was beautiful.

And it had her name engraved because I was, I mean, I was beside myself.

Did we do like a service? I feel like we said a few words.

I kept wanting to pick up dead Millie, and like stroke and touch dead Millie.

And, and he was like, "Emma, Millie's got to, like, stay in the coffin now."

I have forgotten so much of this.

It doesn't feel like much time has passed.

I know.

We all still look better than we do in the epilogue.

Which is great, like we've made it in before that.

- Bag. - Yeah.

Jumper.

I was all forehead on the fat suit.

- Yeah, I was very... I was... I was... - I think I've kind of...

Yeah, you went for it. You were like, "Give me the full, give me the scene."

- I gave it everything. - You went all in.

- Yeah. - I was so proud of you.

No one else can really quite understand

what we experienced. It's a very unique thing.

I think David Yates used to describe us as astronauts

because no one else really has really experienced this

in this scale and we'll be kind of forever bonded by that.

Some of the sweetest memories I have from the three of us is just each of us

knowing we sort of needed to take care of each other

in just like in small ways.

Just in terms of like if it's really cold,

like, we're all gonna just... we're all gonna stand together, or I knackered,

"Are you okay, Dan, if I, like, fall asleep on you."

- Yeah. - Like, in between this take?

Because I'm so tired or I

I think we have all fallen asleep in various, like,

or on each other in, like,

some of the most grand cathedral sad things in the UK.

The level of trust that I had,

and that we did build over those 10 years was like,

if we were doing a stunt, I trusted that one of you would catch me.

I feel like that kind of trust and reliance and that...

Me too.

Takes, you know, there's very few work environments

where you get that much time to build that up.

And it was like non-verbal, like it was all... it was like the three of us

could communicate without... even having to say anything.

We just knew what needed to be done. We were each very strong for each other.

We need to change.

How the ruddy.

Undetectable Extension Charm.

You're amazing, you are.

Always the tone of surprise.

These films had a very different feel,

we were away from Hogwarts a lot of the time

camping out different places.

The tone was a lot darker. It felt like a different film.

Dumbledore sends you off to find all these Horcruxes,

but doesn't tell you how to destroy them.

It was very refreshing.

I think because we all got to do some a lot more serious stuff.

And it was a real opportunity to, go deeper with these characters.

Are you coming or are you staying?

I saw you two the other night.

Ron, that's, that's nothing.

Ron.

The scene that I thought was gonna be really awkward

and I wasn't sure about at all, which was us doing our dance,

- like I... - Yeah.

Now that's one of my favorite scenes from the whole of the series.

Because the level of familiarity

that you and I had with each other at that point,

I didn't think I could have done a scene like that with another actor.

Right, it's also... it's also an interesting scene, because like,

first of all, we were doing Harry Potter films and then on the last movie,

the director came in, he was like,

"Hey, about you do slow dancing to Nick Cave for minutes?"

We're like, wait, what movie are we working on? Like, great, but okay.

There was so much set in the scene, it was unspoken...

And I love that. And also, in the same way

that for the characters they got to have a moment of fun,

I feel like you and I got to have a moment of fun.

Which we also... like, needed at that point, you know.

Yes, absolutely.

Treacherous little bleeder. Is there no one we can trust?

There was that, like, that sequence in the last movie where it was, like,

us running through the forest.

We were racing through the woods trying not to be caught by the snatchers.

And action.

Well, don't hang about. Snatch him.

Honestly, I remember you and I... Emma becoming incredibly competitive...

Ridiculously competitive, yeah.

About who was gonna run faster.

Hey, look, I got rock.

I feel like Rupert was always like a little bit to,

like, you guys do what you like.

He was just, like, "You do your thing, I'll be here."

Yeah. For me, running is a stunt.

Walking is a stunt.

I absolutely do not like watching very many scenes myself in there.

But I watch you two and I think you're brilliant.

But that was a really sweet thing, though.

I do actually remember the three of us telling each other

that we were doing a good job or that we've done a scene well.

Especially because we had started off young

and really not know what we were doing.

So that when we see each other do like a bit of real acting, you go...

"Oh, yeah, well done." Like, yeah.

Like, I guess we're getting better, like, they are great, well done.

I mean, obviously us kissing was...

The most horrifying thing either of us...

Have ever... Had to go through.

I'm Hermione Granger, and you are?

- I'm Ron Weasley. - Pleasure.

It's Leviosa, not Leviosa.

She's a nightmare. Honestly. No wonder she hasn't got any friends.

I think she heard you.

It was just built up so much for the whole series of...

Yeah, eight films.

I love Ron and Hermione's romance

and the way that sort of just bubbles away under the story constantly.

This relationship has been so restrained for so long.

Bit of toothpaste.

Slughorn is having Christmas too, you know.

And we're meant to bring someone.

I expect you'll be bringing McLaggen?

The audience are desperate to see these two kiss.

- Actually, I was going to ask you. - Really?

There's a scene that we should finalize this week

that we should talk about once you've read it.

Because we're doing the kiss this week between Ron and Hermione.

What?

Doing the kiss between Ron and Hermione in the Chamber of Secrets.

In this moment of extraordinary jeopardy,

they turn to each other and then they just kiss.

We've waited seven movies for this.

I spoke to both of them in their trailers,

made sure they were both comfortable.

It was almost like prepping them for a major sports event.

You know, saying, "Okay, guys, you can do this. It's gonna be great."

It was meant to be like this, like, dramatic make out,

because you and I just kept corpsing.

Like we just kept laughing and I was just really scared...

We were never gonna get it... Because we just couldn't take it seriously.

I did not make this better because I've been told significantly

that I was just being an absolute dick about this and was like,

"I'm gonna come on set and watch you guys kiss."

Well, everyone wanted to be on set.

Because everyone was like, "This is gonna be good, guys." Like we need

I'm sorry about that, guys.

I knew I was going to kind of have to be the one to kind of

make this thing happen because Rupert was not gonna,

so I just had to go for it.

Taking no prisoners.

I needed, like, momentum into the kiss in order to do it.

And Rupert's... I can't... almost on that first take, I saw Rupert's face

explode with surprise because he thought it's only the first take.

I kinda, you know, blacked out.

I just remember your face getting closer and closer to mine.

Every time you talk about this,

you make it sound like an actual horror show in your head which is...

Of course it's not bad, I know.

Kissing Rupert is one of the hardest things I've ever had to do.

It just felt wrong,

so wrong on every level because Dan, Rupert, and I are so much siblings.

Harry.

All three of us I think felt so matched and how much it meant to us.

I remember the scene when you were like,

"No, guys, I'm the one who has to go on my own kind of thing on this, this one."

And I gave you the hug to say goodbye.

- I'll go with you. - No, kill the snake.

I knew I was saying goodbye to the series.

I knew I was saying goodbye to you.

And I just had to just bring to the surface

how I really felt about it all coming to an end.

Yeah.

It's a very biblical image carrying Harry across the bridge.

If you ask Joe or anyone who's deeply involved in it,

they'll just say it's the battle between good and evil.

It's as simple as that.

I owe so much to Neville as a character.

I was very, very shy I wouldn't... I would never speak up in class,

I wouldn't put my hand up for anything because I, I very much was him.

Great story of Neville is that he's the champion.

That wonderful bit at the end, that great speech of Matt is, you know

good must prevail of course.

- It doesn't matter that Harry's gone. - Stand down, Neville.

People die every day.

We lost Harry tonight.

He's still with us

in here.

He didn't die in vain.

But the thing that Harry Potter did for me both as a... as a story

and as an actor in it.

But you will.

Was that it helped me to find at, first, what I'm not.

Harry's heart did beat forward us, for all of us!

Which therefore by extension found who I am.

Confringo!

We're looking at the book,

the final confrontation between Voldemort and Harry

takes place in the great hall with a huge audience watching.

And I really wanted something earthier

and more intense and more visceral than that.

Because these two adversaries were almost joined spiritually,

if you like, in this strange Horcruxy way, I thought,

"Wouldn't it be wonderful if Dan just grabbed wraith

and pulled him off this tower?"

Come on, Tom. Let's finish this the way we started.

Together.

As they operate, they merge together.

That deep connection that we'd sort of threaded through the stories

and the film, it visualized in that moment

before they tumbled down into the courtyard.

That moment we're quite physically tired.

We put everything into it. We were exhausted, I think, yeah.

We were shooting in cold months and the skies were gray,

my arm and my forearm got so tight

because this thing is running current in you that you had to

push it back at him.

As well as the physical challenge of making the films,

there was that small pressure of thinking,

"You're the one who's going to finish this, it has to go out on a high,

it has to be meaningful, it has to resonate, it has to deliver."

Who are you?

Hello. My name is Emma Watson, playing the part of Hermione Granger.

- My formal tie. I rather you'd... - No, never.

- Never see me like this? - What?

Never mind.

- Rather not be seen like this? - Yeah.

Why?

Because he doesn't like clipping his hair.

- Yeah. - Mr. Radcliffe.

Yeah. Wah.

- Well... - Camera.

- What did the cam... - You're from the press.

I'm from the press, exactly, how did he know?

- This your first day, how does it feel? - It feels absolutely fantastic.

- Are you excited? - Very, I gotta say. I can't wait.

After all this preparation, finally happening.

Okay, get back to work. People need to pamper you.

Yeah.

What do you think about when you think about it now, Rup, as you look back?

Like for me it's very good memories but what is it for you?

Absolutely, yeah. I'm very proud to have been part of it. I think

towards the end, it was kind of a weird time.

Especially kind of finishing.

I feel like I've lost track of who I was and who the character was.

I didn't really know where they end and all began.

Yeah. There were some things that I'm just like, "Who, who am I?"

Like, "What do I like to do or what, what is important to me?"

Like it's weird things, even my name didn't feel like my name.

I felt I only really knew how to do one thing.

I knew how to play Ron.

Ron was my favorite character, so it was so cool being in the film.

It's almost like we did the most extreme form of method acting.

It always had to end at some point.

We were never gonna be doing this forever.

The way it feels for me now, like, seeing you here having had time apart,

I try not to get emotional.

It feels like you're like a pillar of my life.

It was a very heartwarming thing because I've watched you grow up.

We watched each other grow up, we grew up together, we're family.

We will always be even though we don't see each other. Oh, my God.

Even though we don't see each other all the time.

Yeah, it's a

it's a strong... a strong bond that we'll always have

and we will always be part of each other's life.

- Oh, it's so nice to see you. - Oh, it was so good to see you.

I love you.

As a friend.

Just to be clear... for everyone watching.

Well, it's true. There's so much love.

Thanks, Rups.

Let's do rehearsal and then some playbacks.

Some of these of these playbacks on the...

When you're ready. And action.

When we roll, wrapping up these final scenes,

one of the last shots we did in the entire shoot...

We were diving past the camera and landing on this huge crash mat.

That was what it all came down to this one take of us jumping in the chimney.

It was such a metaphor for what was actually happening.

We had to, like, jump onto a mat basically to travel into another world.

The collective emotion was incredibly palpable

and, and for the people who had supported them

and had been there for them throughout, everybody who'd seen them grow up.

On that last day, I just lost it.

I mean, I remember all of us just holding each other.

All three of us were, like, utterly devastated.

I think it was the first time

we've allowed ourselves to even process or realize we've done it.

We've made it through.

It's so ingrained in me as well, like, I measure my life with these movies.

So it was just like, "Oh, when did you pass your driving test?"

I'm like, "Order of the Phoenix."

Every part of my life is connected to Potter.

When I meet people who is a really important part of their life

or the books or the films were in some way like a part of their identity, it

yeah, it just makes you really proud.

If there's something about Harry Potter that makes life richer,

that when things get really dark and times are really hard,

stories give us places we can go where we can rest and feel held.

I don't think I fully appreciated the reach that these films had

when we were in them.

The amount of people that said things like

"these are the only films my dad and I watch together.

Like, we can't talk about anything else and, like,

we watch Harry Potter together, and that's been our thing."

It's amazing to, to be a small, kind of, part of that and,

and just seeing it kind of relive on, finding new kind of mediums

such as the stage show, the Fantastic Beasts, it's just kind of

just living forever and it's, it's, it's amazing to, to see it.

Harry Potter. Harry Potter. Harry Potter.

There's nothing like the stories of Harry Potter

the stories told within them, the individual characters, journeys,

I just think that has such a transformative effect on people.

That's magic.

It's beautiful here.

Every child wonders how they're going to fit in.

And it's an epic journey that every child goes on.

Dobby will always be there for Harry Potter.

It's very inspiring for young people to go,

"Oh, that could be me there, having that moment of doubt, or that wobble,

or that argument with my parents."

Stay close to me.

Until the end.

I have found it

an extraordinary world to be involved with,

and it's a... it's a beautiful world.

Harry.

- Harry. - Harry.

And that's what's so profoundly therapeutic and good about it,

is it's made people who otherwise feel lonely,

they feel they belong.

Don't give it to him, Harry.

Most of the fans that

that come up and say hello to me now weren't even born when we made the film,

so... it quickly makes you feel slightly older,

um, and very grateful that it's been passed down to other generations.

Training for the ballet, Potter?

One of the things that was unique about Harry Potter besides

the incredible imagination of worlds

and characters that Jo Rowling created

was the fact that you get to see young children grow into adults.

And to see that journey on film,

I don't think we've ever seen that before.

I don't know if we'll ever see it again.

I just feel so lucky that I get to be part of a world

that people love so much and makes people happy.

There's something about those... the escapism you find,

the healthy form of escapism, that I think is kind of what Harry Potter does.

And that's what these stories are for, they are a guide to how to live.

I just think the end of it it's a 10 years of my life and my,

my children had grown up during this, of course.

That is Robbie Coltrane, finest gamekeeper in Hogwarts,

last day on Harry Potter.

The legacy of the movies and I suspect that my children's generation

will show them to their children.

So you couldn't be watching it in 50 years' time. Easy.

I'll not be here sadly but...

Don't you think on it for one minute.

But Hagrid will. Yes.

Kind of looking back at it now,

just really fond memories. I think about it a lot.

It was a great time, everybody was, it was

it was amazing.

It was just the best, most amazing experience and that.

I can't really explain to you, like, they're just good people,

they were so kind and they both took the responsibility of it really seriously,

and I

appreciated that so much.

It really is like family. We're just so intrinsically linked.

They're very important people to me.

The crew on these films were unbelievable.

There are people on these films that are

are a... foundation of... to who I am.

As a person, an actor.

I feel so lucky to be where I am and to have the life that I have

and be able to work with the people I work with now.

But none of it is possible without this.

Um, so, yeah, it was

it was very

it was a very good 10 years.

After all this time?

Always.