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NARRATOR: Tonight on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch.

This is where strange things happen just because of how

intense the energy is.

Some of our guests say that they can see these portals.

JEREMIAH LARUE: And we actually get quite a few calls

up here for people that are just seeing things that they don't

normally see, whether it's orbs in the sky

or seeing mysterious figures.

There's some kind of power that's in that mountain.

This spectrum is going crazy.

PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.

Oh, here's something right here.

Look at this.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: What is that?

PAUL BEBAN: What is that?

NARRATOR: For years, scientists have

been working to reveal the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch.

But is it possible that the clues

to unlock the mystery are located

beyond the borders of this hub of high strangeness?

Wow.

NARRATOR: Now, an ex-CIA agent and a veteran journalist

have been recruited by the Skinwalker team

to go on a high stakes mission across America.

PAUL BEBAN: Look at all this activity that's happening.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: That's unbelievable.

PAUL BEBAN: That is right over our heads.

That's it. That's it right there.

NARRATOR: The goal-- uncover evidence that

may finally expose the truth.

PAUL BEBAN: How is this happening?

Now it's gonna get interesting. [explosion]

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Look, it's moving.

PAUL BEBAN: Look at that. ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Look at that!

[men yelling]

PAUL BEBAN: This is just the beginning.

BRANDON FUGAL: All right, gentlemen.

Welcome back.

We're thrilled to come back together with you.

I've been researching a number of other sites

over the course of the last few years.

And one in particular that keeps coming up

is Mount Shasta in Northern California.

Mount Shasta seems to be a center of gravity for phenomena

that is very similar to what we've been seeing

here at Skinwalker Ranch.

Everything from UFO or UAP phenomena

to electromagnetic anomalies, strange creatures,

and other activity that has been reported

for decades, if not millennia.

And people seem drawn to that area.

It has a very profound impact.

So it sounds like there's an entire community

of experiencers, then, who may be resources for the research.

Indeed.

Has there been a detailed scientific investigation yet?

Or has it been more the enthusiast and the researcher

type investigation?

The enthusiasts, for the most part.

And that's what I think we have the opportunity

to bring to the table, to actually document the reality

or be able to identify a natural explanation for a lot

of the strange phenomena.

Now, Brandon gave us a really brief

heads up about Mount Shasta.

So we were able to pull some initial information that I

want to share with you guys.

Because I think a lot of what we're talking about right

now is really relevant.

So what I have up on screen now is

an actual USGS survey of the area around Mount Shasta.

And it clearly shows that there's some kind

of intense magnetic activity.

Wow.

TRAVIS TAYLOR: Notice that the magnetic anomaly

is following the fault line.

And it looks like Mount Shasta is

right at the top of that fault. And that's a pretty strong

magnetic field right there.

Well, I mean, one thing to keep in mind is,

you know, Shasta is an active volcano.

Yeah, that lines up well with what you just said.

It sure does, yeah.

One thing that continues to be a persistent part of the record

of Mount Shasta is there is an underground element, everything

from lava tubes to even underground structures that have

been reported in that area that may actually hold

the key to some of the answers.

Yeah, no question.

We have some boots on the ground

there that I've been collaborating

with, in particular, Helena Reznor, who is a researcher.

Helena has actually spent years focusing on that area

and meeting with people who are experiencers

and also researchers that can help aid our investigation.

And it's always nice to walk in when we know

we have an ally on the ground.

PAUL BEBAN: And I'm thinking to that end,

we're going to reach out to law enforcement, the local Sheriff

Jeremiah LaRue.

I mean, this is an area where there's

gonna be a lot of reports.

Whether they're official, whether they're on file or not,

we'll just see what we find.

Well, this feels like the moment where we say,

"Go forth and conquer."

But I think it's more like, "Conquer and go forth."

There you go. Good luck, guys.

Thanks, guys.

TRAVIS TAYLOR: Can't wait to see what you find.

See you soon. PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.

BRANDON FUGAL: Thank you. Thanks, gentlemen.

[suspenseful music]

PAUL BEBAN: One of the things that

strikes me about this place, I mean,

just as we're driving in here is, like, look at how vast

it is.

I mean, of all the places we've been so far,

this may be the most majestic.

- It is-- - Do you know what I mean?

--absolutely stunning.

I mean, here in the distance, you

see Mount Shasta, like, towering over everything in the area.

PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.

But I don't want to be deceived into looking

past the fact that it's also a very strange

place, a very mysterious place.

PAUL BEBAN: I mean, it almost has that kind of Close

Encounters vibe, right?

This is a place that people are drawn to.

They can't necessarily even explain why,

but they just need to be there.

There really does seem to be a relationship

between the people who come here and the mountain itself.

PAUL BEBAN: And that may be ultimately

the origin of the lore that goes back thousands of years

here that this mountain is alive.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah.

The question is, can we get some data to back up

what people say they've seen.

There's so much ground to cover here.

I wonder if we should think about just

splitting up right off the bat.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I've already been

in touch with Helena Reznor.

And she's got a location she wants me to meet her at.

All right, and I think what I'll do

is I'll connect with the local sheriff, with Sheriff LaRue.

You know, he's been here his whole life.

He's told us that he's been getting tons of reports,

actually an uptick in the past few years,

that speak to the experiences that people are having.

There's some kind of mystery around the mountain here.

And no one's been able to quite unravel what that is.

Right.

And now we're gonna try our hand at it.

NARRATOR: Paul's first stop is at Bunny Flat,

a flash point of strange occurrences

at the base of Mount Shasta.

Hey, Sheriff, thank you for meeting me here.

Pleasure.

So this is it.

I mean, this is the heart of the Mount Shasta wilderness.

You've been here a long time. You know all about this place.

Yeah, this is the place where people

come to start their journey to ascend Mount Shasta.

These are where a lot of our reports come from.

- Oh, really? - Yeah.

- OK. - Would you like to take a look?

Yeah, please.

All right, let's go.

Talking to the local sheriff, that's unusual.

I mean, we don't always get cooperation

from law enforcement.

But someone like Sheriff LaRue who

is from here who can verify some of these stories,

this is a great asset for us.

NARRATOR: While Paul gathers information

from the sheriff at Bunny Flat, Andy

heads to Ascension Rock, a notorious hot spot

near the base of Mount Shasta.

- You ready? - Yeah, let's do it.

Let's go.

NARRATOR: He joins investigator Helena Reznor

to try to prove claims of Ascension Rock's

unusual electromagnetic energies similar to those

found on Skinwalker Ranch.

There is an extraneous magnetic field right here

messing my compass up.

Magnetic north has been shifted by about 5 degrees.

It's showing north is that way.

Holy crap.

HELENA REZNOR: You will notice this whole area

is filled with trees that have been struck by lightning.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Huh.

This has been struck by lightning.

That's been struck by lightning.

There's trees over that direction struck by lightning.

And that's because lightning is actually attracted

to energy vortex locations.

Yeah.

HELENA REZNOR: They also tend to twist.

Yeah, you can see the twist in this tree here.

HELENA REZNOR: The more you find twisted and lightning struck

trees, the more electromagnetic the area

is going to be in nature.

Yeah.

And you can see all the lightning

strikes, the trees down here and the tree down here.

Yeah.

So would you like me to show you the perimeter

edge of this energy vortex?

If you've got a way to do it, let's check it out.

Pretty simple with some dowsing rods.

And actually, I have an extra pair for you

if you'd like to try it out.

Yeah, let's do it.

NARRATOR: Dowsing is a centuries-old practice

used to detect potential electromagnetic fields.

An investigator holds two L-shaped copper rods.

And when an increase in electric energy current is detected,

the rods will cross, seemingly by themselves.

Just try to keep them as steady as possible

facing forward.

And I'm getting a reaction right-- whoa.

Yep, yep, yep, yep.

I'm with you.

Take another step forward.

Yeah, so this is going to be the perimeter edge of the vortex.

You see how expansive that is?

I mean, yeah, that's the focal point.

But it's creating a localized geomagnetic field

that's expanding all around.

That's fascinating.

Yeah.

Let's run that one more time.

I would love to see if we can replicate those results.

Yeah.

All right, so let's approach the perimeter

that we've discovered here.

I'm still looking straight.

Oh, mine are starting to react right here, right here.

You got a reaction?

Right here, woo, full reaction.

There go mine. There go mine.

Absolutely.

Dowsing rods are one of the oldest

tools in the book for being able to find a magnetic field.

And what it's showing us is that the magnetic field

here is acting consistently and predictably over and over again.

Well, there's really something measurable

here about the phenomena that had been reported.

And we're just scratching the surface of it.

HELENA REZNOR: Absolutely.

But the real focal point is up ahead.

If you get up close to Ascension Rock,

this is going to be the hot spot.

Do you have a compass on you?

I have two.

You want one?

I'm actually curious now what our magnetic readings look like,

compass-wise.

I'll take mine, too.

So red is north.

So the mountain is north.

Yeah, that's what the compass is reading right now.

So it's pointing towards the mountain.

Mine's starting to point northwest

right now for some reason.

I've still got normal readings down here.

OK, totally disorients here.

JEREMIAH LARUE: Really?

It disorients by 45 degrees, I'd say.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Look at that.

It's telling me north is that way.

North is this way.

[suspenseful music]

HELENA REZNOR: Mine's starting to point northwest right now.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I've still got normal readings down here.

HELENA REZNOR: OK, totally disorients here.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Really?

HELENA REZNOR: It disorients by 45 degrees, I'd say.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Look at that.

It's telling me north is that way.

North is this way.

I am a solid 90 degrees off.

They're the exact same compass.

Exact same compass, yeah.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: And if we move them six inches,

they completely change.

What we just saw with our magnetic compasses

and with old school dowsing rods, like,

this formation has a strong charge to it.

My suspicion is that this is happening all over the area.

It's just that this is an area that's well known

but that if we were to expand our search,

I bet we would find more areas like this that share

some sort of energetic connection

through the volcano in some way.

HELENA REZNOR: Absolutely.

PAUL BEBAN: This place has been really a pilgrimage

maybe for millennia.

What's your take on it?

What is the story of this place?

JEREMIAH LARUE: This mountain puts out a lot of energy.

I've talked to a lot of people that have come here.

And it's all different.

People describe speaking telepathically.

They seek healing.

They seek maybe a revelation of some kind.

I mean, obviously, it's beautiful.

It's wide open.

You have a great shot of Mount Shasta.

It draws a lot of people to this area.

Yeah.

And then we, of course, have the aerial phenomena

that is unique to the area.

We actually get quite a few calls up

here for people that are just seeing things that they don't

normally see, whether it's orbs in the sky,

whether it's actual craft, or people that

have been out hiking, skiing and they

report seeing figures seven feet tall and they were glowing.

They don't have backpacks.

They don't have skis with them.

There's no reason that they would see them

in some of these remote areas.

Have you ever had any personal experiences?

I have, you know, one not that long ago.

I saw a black triangle, no lights.

And I just saw it cruising through the sky.

And at first I thought, well, it's probably satellites.

But as it started to pass, it slowed down a little bit

and then made a 90-degree turn.

When it passed, it blocked out the stars behind it.

And I don't know what it was.

Those are moments that, you know, I'm just being honest,

I couldn't tell you what it is.

And so I put that in the category of the unexplained.

Even if just a tiny fraction are actually something--

Right, I don't think you can rule them all out.

And I think this would be a potentially great location

for a night investigation.

Because we have equipment to observe the night sky.

Is this someplace we could set up tonight?

- This is an excellent place. - Fantastic.

Let me touch base with Andy.

We'll get the gear up here and we'll get started.

- All right. - OK.

Thanks so much.

Thanks.

NARRATOR: With a perfect vantage point at the base of Mount

Shasta, Andy, Paul, and Sheriff LaRue

will conduct an experiment at night

to see if they can capture evidence of a UAP.

So I want to walk you through a little bit of the equipment

that we have here real quick.

So what we're looking at here is a thermal imaging camera.

This is the most sophisticated version of FLIR.

It's high definition.

And it wasn't available to us last year

at any of our experimentations and it's never

set foot on Skinwalker Ranch.

NARRATOR: The FLIR T1030 is a high definition thermal camera

that has a long-range capability to capture

the environment's heat signatures

and convert them into digital video images.

This has never been available outside of the military before.

And that's trained on Mount Shasta.

That's gonna be our best friend for seeing anything outside

of the visible spectrum.

Here and here we got flight tracker

data, satellite tracker data.

So we're always trying to rule out aircraft in any sightings

that we see overhead.

JEREMIAH LARUE: Right.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Here, we have two tools called UFODAPs.

These are our eyes in the sky, AI-powered machines that

are designed to be watching the sky at all times

because we're going to be watching everything else.

And if they find something that doesn't fit their AI

index of pre-recorded data, then they'll

zoom in, record, and alert us.

So if we do see something in the sky,

then we'll be able to actually record it and enhance the light

that it's giving us so that we'll be

able to really see it clearly. - Awesome.

Shouldn't miss anything, then.

It's a lot of comfort blankets.

Because we really only get one chance to set it up tonight,

right? - Right.

So if you hear something strange, if you smell something

strange, start tasting something strange,

don't be embarrassed to say anything

that seems or feels strange.

I'm going to search through the radio spectrum, Paul.

PAUL BEBAN: It's super quiet, huh?

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: It's a really stable spectrum.

PAUL BEBAN: Not a lot of air traffic either.

You know, we do have one kind of creative thing on standby.

We have a tone generator.

The Skinwalker team has had investigations where we've

seen some kind of response that comes from actual auditory tones

at specific frequencies.

So it might be worth us running a couple of frequencies

up against the environment and seeing if it

causes any kind of response.

NARRATOR: In 2022, the team at Skinwalker

Ranch discovered the effects of playing

back a 192-hertz audio tone.

All right, Travis, we are about ready to start.

Have at it!

Ready for frequency one.

Let's try 192.

NARRATOR: Playing the tone seemed to trigger

the appearance of a UAP.

Ho, did y'all see that?

Right above us right now.

Something just jumped, I mean, came right across the sky.

I think at Skinwalker the frequency is 192, right?

192 hertz, I have it set.

NARRATOR: Now, Andy and Paul will play back

the same 192 hertz tone here at Mount Shasta

to see if they can trigger a similar result.

All right, here we go.

[tone sounding]

Oh, Paul, this is totally different.

Look at this.

Where are we now?

1.4.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: 1.485.

NARRATOR: When radio frequencies from 1.4 to 1.8 gigahertz

are seen on a spectrum analyzer, that

indicates Earth-to-space or space-to-Earth communication.

It might also signal the presence of a UAP.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: We've got multiple peaks

here, 1.52 gigahertz.

And now they're totally gone.

Let me stop the tone generator.

It did seem to correspond with the tone.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: It really did.

Oh, there it goes again. Did you see it?

It's like a--

Look at that.

Look at that. Look at that.

Whoa.

What is that?

Whoa.

Look at this.

1.71 gigahertz.

There's tons of energy.

And you can see how sporadic it is.

It's not clean.

This is just all over the place.

All over the place. Look at that.

And it just started up out of nowhere.

[tone sounding]

PAUL BEBAN: What was that? ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Oh, UFODAP.

PAUL BEBAN: Whoa.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: --just found something.

Did you see that?

PAUL BEBAN: I didn't.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Let me go to the raw file

PAUL BEBAN: You're playing back the DAP right now?

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yep So these are the DAP hits

that were happening at the same time

that we started seeing the transient energy here.

It just got it for a frame or two it seems like.

Yep.

This is us right here.

I'll take it frame by frame and advance it.

So it starts up here.

PAUL BEBAN: Yeah, and you can see it's

starting to get that almost a tail right there.

And there it is progressing.

We've never seen anything like that.

How much actual screen time did we get there?

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Two seconds maybe.

That moved quick.

All of a sudden this night got very interesting, man.

So the zone where that would have been visible

on this recording, right?

Yep.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: So it was over here, yeah?

PAUL BEBAN: Mm-hmm.

There's no satellites.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah, I was gonna say.

I mean, that's not what a plane looks like.

No, that was not air craft.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Air traffic in that area is clear, too.

But it was fast.

It was brief.

It was correlative with the radio frequency transmissions

that we were seeing here, which were also fast,

brief, and scattered, right?

Yeah, it's highly coincidental.

I mean, the question is, how were they connected?

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: If they're connected, yeah.

Oh, look at that.

Our energy's back again here, too.

PAUL BEBAN: Another one?

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I'm having a hard time

keeping up with everything that's happening right now.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Oh, UFODAP.

PAUL BEBAN: Another one?

Oh, look at that.

Our energy's back again here, too.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I'm having a hard time

keeping up with everything that's happening right now.

NARRATOR: Andy and Paul are at the base of Mount Shasta with

the local sheriff recording a multitude of strange activity

that all started when they played

the same 192-hertz audio signal used on Skinwalker Ranch.

PAUL BEBAN: Do you want to try to play back the FLIR?

The FLIR, exactly, right.

Our FLIR footage is loaded up to this computer.

Let's take a look.

Look at that.

Look at that.

What is that?

I'm not seeing any satellite activity.

It's not an aircraft.

Aircrafts don't put up heat like that.

PAUL BEBAN: No.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: That's not a bat or a bird.

It doesn't have flapping wings.

It's not changing shape.

It's slow. It's steady.

It's strong.

This spectrum is going crazy.

PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.

Oh, here's something right here.

See it?

You're right, you're right.

PAUL BEBAN: We've got it recorded again.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah I'll play it right back again.

Boom.

OK.

Shape, color is consistent with the other anomalies

that we've seen. PAUL BEBAN: Yep.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: It's against the coldest part of the sky.

You see that?

PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.

Let me take it slide by slide, frame by frame.

PAUL BEBAN: Oh, yeah.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: What is that?

PAUL BEBAN: It kind of wobbles.

It does wobble.

Look at that.

It's like-- it's like moving like a fish, right?

You see that?

Oh, look.

We've got another object.

It darted straight across from right to left, 45-degree angle.

FLIR is popping.

[tone sounding]

For all we the visual orbs that are being reported

are just a fraction of all the orb activity.

Because they're not using thermal imaging technology.

This may be something completely new, a thermal orb.

Let's take a look at that footage.

Here's the orb you saw off to the right.

PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Right here, look at this guy.

PAUL BEBAN: Oh, that's the one.

JEREMIAH LARUE: This is the one that disappears.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Look right here.

Oh, whoa, whoa.

JEREMIAH LARUE: There's a second one.

PAUL BEBAN: Yeah, there you go.

We were so busy with that, I didn't even see that one.

Hold on, that was...

That was two objects.

Did you notice how they had the same shape?

PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Similar trajectories.

They appeared at the same time.

PAUL BEBAN: But completely different speeds.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Totally different speeds.

One of the things that just I can't ignore

is the fact that these objects that we see on the FLIR

seem to be going towards Mount Shasta.

Whether we see slow moving orbs or fast moving orbs or groups

of orbs, they all seem to be centering on Mount

Shasta as their destination.

I don't know what this is.

I have no explanation for this.

It's kind of freaking me out.

What are these hot, high-speed objects?

And they're outside of the visible spectrum.

Right.

I mean, is this normal?

I've never seen anything like it before.

Those are clearly objects moving at speed,

not just some sort of weird temperature anomaly.

I'm feeling a little bit overwhelmed, man.

There's this, there's this.

That's still going.

Once we triggered the 192-hertz tone that we borrowed

from Skinwalker Ranch-- PAUL BEBAN: Yep.

--that's when we really started

tracking to multiple changes.

But what has me fascinated right now with what's going on

in the FLIR is the continuity, the continuity

in terms of the temperature signature

that each of those anomalies is putting off.

They're within the same range of each other.

PAUL BEBAN: Right.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: The shape, the size, they're consistent.

Yeah, it brings up just a lot more questions

like we're asking.

What are these things?

We'll dig into it as much as we can.

And anything we learn, we'll be sure to pass your way.

Great. I'd love to hear.

PAUL BEBAN: What a day.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah, and we're just getting started here.

We've seen UAPs.

We've seen just incredible magnetic

and electromagnetic energy.

We've seen some absolutely bizarre stuff in a place

that we knew was going to be bizarre.

Right.

It has compounding anomalies.

It has strange phenomenon.

It really is a sister location to Skinwalker Ranch.

Yeah, I'm still fascinated by what you saw,

just with the compasses.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I mean, what I saw at Ascension Rock

absolutely just blew my mind with the amount

of energy that's coming out of that rock formation.

Like, the magnetic fields, the electrical energies there

were all over the map.

Which makes me wonder, like, if we're

seeing those kind of conditions on the surface

of the mountain, what's going on inside

that's generating that energy?

There is so much going on here that maybe

the story is actually underground

rather than above ground.

When I think about the Skinwalker team,

they also suspect that the real secrets of Skinwalker Ranch--

Right, is under the mesa.

But Skinwalker, they don't have the opportunity

to get underground.

I mean, if they do, they're going to have to drill.

There's an extensive network all

over the Mount Shasta region.

We can literally walk in to the underground layer

of this mountain.

Yeah, I think we've gotta find that access point

and run experiments there.

PAUL BEBAN: It's a hell of a way to start the day.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah.

NARRATOR: Andy and Paul are headed to Mount Shasta's

extensive cave system in search of evidence connecting to Mount

Shasta's strange energies.

At Skinwalker Ranch, the team has found

key evidence underground--

We're hoping that we can go drill through it

and see if we hit any voids.

NARRATOR: --but only through painstaking drilling.

This drilling process takes a lot of time.

That looks like a big chunk of something.

What is that?

It definitely looks metallic.

NARRATOR: This is an opportunity to get

underground faster and easier.

They've teamed up with a local cave exploration company

to conduct experiments at a popular tourist attraction

called Shasta Caverns, an ancient cave network rumored

to lead to Mount Shasta that draws

visitors from all over the world to experience

its unique energies.

PAUL BEBAN: So, Dave, you know, Andy and I have

heard a lot about these caves.

This is our chance to actually get in.

There's not just the cave we're going to.

There's caves all over these mountains.

A couple of years ago we found a cave in the next canyon

over from our cave called Samwel Cave.

And that comes from a Native American term "sa-wal."

And a "sa-wal" is a place of power for Native Americans

where they would go to receive blessings

and strength and courage.

So there's many sa-wals in this area.

I mean, often in that mythology, right,

descending into a cave is a portal into another world.

I mean, as long as human beings have been here--

Yeah.

--these places have been places of spiritual power.

One of the stories that we've heard many times

about Mount Shasta is, first of all,

that this is a massive energy system.

We know that the underlying geology here is unusual.

This is one of the most dynamic parts of the entire North

American tectonic system.

And the heart of it is the mountain itself.

If that's the case, then what's inside the mountain,

the structure of it is really going to be like the veins

and arteries, right?

If there's a key to this mystery,

it's inside the mountain.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: So into the hall of the mountain king.

PAUL BEBAN: Into the underworld.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Whatever hornet's nest is up

there is about to get kicked.

PAUL BEBAN: Exactly.

And welcome to the cave.

Wow.

This is Matt.

Here we are. Paul Beban.

- Paul, pleasure to meet you. - Good to meet you.

- Andy. - Pleasure to meet you.

Thanks for having us.

Oh, of course.

We're excited to find out some information.

We are excited to see what's behind that door.

Excellent.

Let's get in and hop inside the cave right now.

PAUL BEBAN: Let's do it.

All right. Thank you.

After you, sir.

Oh, wow.

You can feel that temperature drop right away.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah, right?

MATT DOYLE: Pretty amazing, isn't it?

PAUL BEBAN: Wow.

Amazing.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: What a rapid transition.

PAUL BEBAN: The energy just changes, right?

I don't know how else to describe it.

Like, you just go from the outside world

to the underworld--

Yeah.

[laughs]

--immediately.

Well, that's correct.

I mean, you have to imagine, we're sitting in 250

million years of formation.

PAUL BEBAN: You can feel it. MATT DOYLE: Oh, certainly.

PAUL BEBAN: I mean, it's not just visual, but

this whole sensory experience.

DAVE MUNDT: I love being in here.

And I love to be in the cave alone with the lights off.

And it's so quiet and so dark.

And we leave our anxiety behind.

Feel the peace.

You feel it differently, even your voice.

MATT DOYLE: You really do.

You really do.

A big part of what brought us here

were the stories about the phenomenon

and the mysteries of the mountain.

Have you experienced any of those yourselves?

Oh, pretty much everybody on staff

has had some sort of experience one way or the other,

from orbs or floating figures inside the cave,

to a lot of audio things that are really unexplained.

You've experienced that personally?

MATT DOYLE: Oh, correct, yes, I have.

What kind of stuff?

Anything from children laughter

when we know that we're the only people inside the cavern.

Children laughing--

MATT DOYLE: Correct, yes.

--in an empty cave?

Yes.

Amazing.

Now you mentioned light orbs inside the caves, which

is a truly unnatural phenomenon to have

a source of light in an area that

is absent of all natural light.

Some of our guests say that they can see these portals

in the cave and that they believe that you

can step through one of these portals

and come out at Mount Shasta.

That's very consistent with what we've

seen in other investigations.

And it certainly sounds like possibly some of the stories

about skinwalkers, right, using portals, using

energy anomalies to-- to--

to move from one place to another.

NARRATOR: The legend of skinwalkers as shapeshifters

that can move from one place to another using portals has been

well documented at Skinwalker Ranch,

as well as Andy and Paul's previous investigation at Navajo

Nation.

The skinwalkers are said to be able to travel vast distances

by sliding into these dimensional gates

and jumping, almost like a wormhole effect,

and come out again.

Well, based on the phenomenon that we've heard,

there's light phenomenon.

There's sound phenomenon.

And there's energy phenomenon.

I'm making a mental list of the experiments

that we're going to need to run.

Because all three of those are things we can measure.

Absolutely.

Is there any place in the cave that you

would recommend we use to stage multiple pieces of equipment?

I would most certainly say it's

going to be our cathedral room.

It's our largest room. - Show us the way.

All right, sounds good. Let's go.

We'll follow you.

[suspenseful music]

Wow.

Oh my gosh.

You just feel like you're entering

a massive, sacred space.

Wow.

It's disorienting, man.

It's so big.

I mean, how high is the ceiling above us?

We're roughly about 180 feet from the very bottom

of this pit, all the way to the top of the fall.

So, I mean, we're talking like a 16-story building

could fit from here to there.

MATT DOYLE: Correct, yes.

I mean, this is definitely where we need to stage.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I am really excited to launch

some experiments in here, man.

PAUL BEBAN: Yeah, what a spot for us to work in.

All right, well, should we get ready?

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah.

Time to see what this cave's got.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: All right.

So this guy's warming up.

And we'll be able to check this as we go.

MATT DOYLE: Hey, it looks like you're all set up.

PAUL BEBAN: Have you seen this kind of set

up before in the cavern?

This would be a first for me, that's for sure.

NARRATOR: Andy and Paul are bringing technology

to Shasta Caverns for the first time

to poke the hornet's nest with a host of instruments designed

to capture anomalous light, sound,

and energy deep in the heart of the Mount Shasta cave system.

One of the things that's different about this, we've

never done experiments really indoors.

I mean, we're not indoors.

We're inside of a mountain.

But we're still going to be running the FLIRs.

We're going to be looking for thermal anomalies.

We're using a parabolic mic for the first time.

This will pick up small trace noises from anywhere

where it's directionally pointed.

PAUL BEBAN: So if we hear anything unusual,

we can really try to hone in on it and see maybe what that is.

This is exciting.

Mm-hmm.

PAUL BEBAN: Let's roll.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah, we're set up.

We're recording.

Let me turn on our spectrum analyzer.

This will be reviewing and listening

in on whatever radio frequencies are happening in our area.

So I'm gonna surf the bands, Paul, and see--

Yeah.

--what things look like.

One thing that we hear a lot from the team back

at Skinwalker Ranch is to watch out for a misbehaving spectrum.

You'll know strange when you see it.

- Exactly. - All right.

PAUL BEBAN: It's very apparent.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: You can see that the energy

is low, fairly steady. PAUL BEBAN: Little flickers.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah. PAUL BEBAN: Do you see that?

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Mm-hmm.

Andy, I'm kind of surprised just right off the bat

to see that we're getting so much RF

activity in the cave itself.

Yeah.

PAUL BEBAN: Pretty busy through here.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yep.

So here, this is our strongest zone, Paul.

Our strongest area of activity is most definitely starting

at about 1.6 gigahertz.

Wow.

Look at that.

So that's interesting.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: It seems like as we climb higher

into these more privileged zones,

you see more of these energy bursts.

Tell me again what's a privilege zone?

So a privilege zone is a zone that you

and I can't transmit on.

Oh, OK.

A normal civilian or commercial entity

can't transmit above 1.6 gigahertz.

It's reserved for government use and for Earth-to-space and

space-to-Earth communication.

PAUL BEBAN: Here's my question, though.

I mean, we're underground, deep underground.

Shouldn't we be shielded? - Yep.

Yeah.

Is this some kind of effect of being in a cave?

I mean, or is it the energy signature of the cave itself?

What is going on?

I don't understand that.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: The whole reason we came to Mount Shasta

was because we got reports of energy--

PAUL BEBAN: Right.

--originating here.

Well, my question is, is it possible

that whatever energy anomaly this may be that it's distorting

either our equipment or--

I don't know. ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah.

I mean, I'm wondering, given what

we're seeing, if maybe our equipment has some kind

of effect on the energy.

Do you want to try and go lights out?

Go dark.

Let's go for it

NARRATOR: Having already detected strange energy spikes

that shouldn't be present in a cave,

the team decides to turn off all their electrical devices,

including light sources, to isolate for an experiment

to see if they can capture evidence of the audio phenomenon

the cave guides have reported.

So we'll close down the FLIRs, we'll

close down everything else.

And we'll listen to see if the mountain is talking to us.

Let's give it a try.

Let's do it.

I don't know what's going on with the energy in this cave.

But as far as our audio experiments are concerned,

you couldn't ask for a more interesting space.

Being in total darkness and silence in there,

we can really try to home in on it and get a good recording

and see maybe what that is.

I'm going to kill the monitors. ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Go ahead.

PAUL BEBAN: All right, I'm going to kill my headlamp.

Killing mine.

Done.

PAUL BEBAN: You ready on the parabolic?

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Ready.

NARRATOR: A parabolic microphone is

so sensitive it can pick up even the slightest

whisper at a great distance.

If any strange sounds occur in the cave,

they will be recorded as a high quality audio

signal for further analysis.

All right, and we're recording.

And I'll give you a 3, 2, 1.

All right, we're ready when you are, sir.

- Clear. - All righty.

And 3, 2, 1.

[whirring]

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I feel like I can hear the blood

pumping through my heart.

PAUL BEBAN: I feel like I hear the blood pumping

through your heart, dude.

It's the sound of silence, man.

It's amazing.

I mean, we've got a good sample there of the silence.

We'll just go back and see if there's anything there.

Or do you want to get a longer stretch?

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I do not want a longer stretch.

PAUL BEBAN: OK.

Can we get the power back on?

MATT DOYLE: [laughs] All right.

Wow.

I felt very small in the dark.

I was just gonna say, the whole place just

contracted in on me.

Oh my gosh.

I'm just gonna do a real quick listen through, Paul--

PAUL BEBAN: OK.

--to see if anything popped on that parabolic.

MATT DOYLE: And I'll give you a 3 2, 1.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Hold on. Hold on.

PAUL BEBAN: There's nothing.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: There's no data.

But I did say 3, 2, 1.

PAUL BEBAN: You absolutely did. - You did.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Hold on, hold on.

Because it comes back here.

What happened in between?

PAUL BEBAN: What happened in between there?

I mean, it's not like it's sound activated.

I mean, it's recording the whole time.

Something weird is going on in here,

the relationship between sound and other forms of energy.

What if the cave is absorbing the energy we put out there.

Wait, what?

I am very suspicious right now that there could

be some kind of event where the phenomenon

here is consuming energy.

So you're saying, even though we can hear it,

the cave is somehow drawing energy away

so the mic can't pick it up?

The story of Mount Shasta is that this place

exudes positive energy and that's what draws people here.

What I think Andy and I might be sort of knocking on the door

with is the mountain itself sucking

energy out of the environment.

I think that's something we're going to have to dig

a little bit more deeply into.

There's something here that speaks

to the truth of the stories, your personal experiences,

the history of Mount Shasta.

This is a phenomenal place.

This is the point where we hand

it off to the Skinwalker team.

[laughs]

Hey, guys, here's what we got.

The benefit of being investigators.

Here's the data.

You figure it out.

Take a crack at it now.

BRANDON FUGAL: All right, gentlemen.

We've been anxious to hear your findings.

What do you have for us?

PAUL BEBAN: Well, I think Mount Shasta delivered--

- Yeah. - --is the top line here.

This is going to blow you away.

We had a really rich mix of local expertise,

in terms of the anecdotal evidence,

but also just the history and geology of the area,

which is really complex.

I was working with the local sheriff, Sheriff Jeremiah LaRue.

We invited Sheriff LaRue to join

us on an evening experiment.

It's an area called Bunny Flat.

And he said, look, this is just a place

where people have, I think in his words,

just seen a lot of weird stuff.

We had multiple UAP sightings on both the UFODAP

and on our thermal camera.

All of that happened after we played the tone.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: After we triggered the 192-hertz tone.

Yeah, wow. PAUL BEBAN: The skinwalker tone.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: The FLIR hits that I'm about to show you now

were all captured in real time.

From the upper right hand side of the screen,

you see these two orbs that are heat signatures.

It looks like it either goes behind the mountain or possibly

into the mountain.

They're only UAPs right now because we

don't know what they are. - Correct.

Right?

They could turn out to be something

completely explainable.

I mean, we've got the flight tracker

and the satellite tracker running.

You're not seeing satellites or airplanes.

But whatever that was flying in the air,

it was as warm or at least as reflective

to appear to be the same color temperature.

So that's really interesting.

It makes me think it may have been putting out its own light.

I'm glad we have this instrument.

We didn't have this instrument in our inventory

during the first phase of our work together.

PAUL BEBAN: Right.

So this is really a nice new piece of tech.

Now, what we found in this area was

there's a cave network that connects all the way up

to Mount Shasta itself.

Our goal was to try to look for signs of energy, energy flows,

energy shifts, energy changes, as well as any anomalies that

might be outside of the visual range or outside

of our normal auditory range.

Good.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Here you see a bird's eye view of just

our actual command center.

And what we wanted to do was we wanted to set up a parabolic mic

so that we could try to identify any unnatural sounds,

any sounds that were potentially tied to some change

that we were putting into the environment.

So we asked them to kill all lights, everything.

We fell into darkness.

I like that you did that.

And during our parabolic microphone experiment,

our parabolic mic was working without picking up

ambient noise.

It would pick up sporadic noise.

But it didn't function appropriately.

PAUL BEBAN: We cut the external power.

Mic is still powered.

But the mic just cuts off.

And here's our full audio file from the parabolic mic.

So as you can see, if it was just a matter of a gate,

then we would have picked up nothing.

But that's not, in fact, what happened.

ANDY BUSTAMANTE (ON TAPE): I feel like I can hear the blood

pumping through my heart.

So do we know if anyone was speaking

during this silent period that we're not hearing?

There was speech going on and it just went dead?

I feel like I can hear the blood pumping through my heart.

PAUL BEBAN: I feel like I hear the blood pumping

through your heart, dude.

Wow, unreal.

It begs the question, what is happening in this environment.

PAUL BEBAN: Exactly. ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah.

That's not natural.

Yeah, something is causing it to stop

or the data is being removed.

Or something buried--

Or something else.

Something buried within that area, much like what we believe

is buried here within the mesa.

Certainly.

But the most significant of all the anomalies

that we saw electronically was what I'm

pulling up for you right now.

We started specifically looking at these suspect spectrum ranges

that we've seen before in our investigations,

as well as what you've seen here on Skinwalker Ranch,

that we know are reserved for Earth-to-space transmissions and

space-to-Earth transmissions.

And that's where we lock in here at 1.6 gigahertz.

That right there, look at that.

That is a lot of energy across the spectrum around 1.6

inside a cave.

I gotta tell you, I can't, for the life of me,

figure out how you get a microwave

signal down inside a cave.

Why are we getting 1.6 gigahertz signals inside this cave

at Mount Shasta?

It makes no sense to me.

So you're saying that it should be shielded from the--

I mean, just because of the fact that we're underground.

Because you got layers of earth.

Microwave signals don't pass through dirt very well.

You know, about that much dirt is all you need to block it.

Well, it speaks to some type of advanced technology

that is being utilized that we just don't have.

Yes.

This could very well be evidence of some intelligence

that is monitoring your activities

and leaving this type of trace evidence.

I mean, I know this is just speculation,

but you have hard data.

It's not a bad speculation.

It's difficult to refute.

When you're in that cave and when we turned off the lights,

I mean, you are in a fully sensory deprived environment.

Yes.

There's nothing.

And yet to find that, of all things, was haunting.

It makes no sense, does it?

And other readings, other strange things occurring.

Those are weird things you found in a place

where there shouldn't have been anything but darkness.

Yeah.

What we see here is a definite correlation

to what we have experienced here at Skinwalker Ranch.

It really begs the question.

What is it going on beneath Mount Shasta?

Is there an underground base or some unnatural source

that is creating the phenomena?

Well, it certainly begs for a return analysis

and return measurements.

Well, Mount Shasta was mysterious to me before.

Now, it's opened up a whole new series of questions

that I think need to be answered.

There is legitimacy to the lore.

Yeah, I feel like you haven't just put a pin in the map,

you've really put a golden spike in the map on this one.

Let's use this as a springboard.

And I can't wait to see what we dig up next.