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NARRATOR: Tonight on
Beyond Skinwalker Ranch.
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This is where strange things
happen just because of how
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intense the energy is.
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Some of our guests say that
they can see these portals.
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JEREMIAH LARUE: And we
actually get quite a few calls
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up here for people that are just
seeing things that they don't
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normally see, whether
it's orbs in the sky
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or seeing mysterious figures.
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There's some kind of power
that's in that mountain.
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This spectrum is going crazy.
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PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.
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Oh, here's something right here.
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Look at this.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: What is that?
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PAUL BEBAN: What is that?
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NARRATOR: For years,
scientists have
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been working to reveal the
secrets of Skinwalker Ranch.
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But is it possible
that the clues
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to unlock the
mystery are located
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beyond the borders of this
hub of high strangeness?
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Wow.
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NARRATOR: Now, an ex-CIA
agent and a veteran journalist
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have been recruited
by the Skinwalker team
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to go on a high stakes
mission across America.
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PAUL BEBAN: Look at all this
activity that's happening.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE:
That's unbelievable.
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PAUL BEBAN: That is
right over our heads.
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That's it.
That's it right there.
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NARRATOR: The goal--
uncover evidence that
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may finally expose the truth.
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PAUL BEBAN: How
is this happening?
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Now it's gonna get interesting.
[explosion]
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE:
Look, it's moving.
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PAUL BEBAN: Look at that.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Look at that!
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[men yelling]
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PAUL BEBAN: This is
just the beginning.
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BRANDON FUGAL: All
right, gentlemen.
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Welcome back.
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We're thrilled to come
back together with you.
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I've been researching
a number of other sites
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over the course of
the last few years.
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And one in particular
that keeps coming up
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is Mount Shasta in
Northern California.
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Mount Shasta seems to be a
center of gravity for phenomena
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that is very similar to
what we've been seeing
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here at Skinwalker Ranch.
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Everything from UFO
or UAP phenomena
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to electromagnetic
anomalies, strange creatures,
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and other activity
that has been reported
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for decades, if not millennia.
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And people seem
drawn to that area.
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It has a very profound impact.
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So it sounds like
there's an entire community
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of experiencers, then, who may
be resources for the research.
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Indeed.
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Has there been a detailed
scientific investigation yet?
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Or has it been more the
enthusiast and the researcher
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type investigation?
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The enthusiasts,
for the most part.
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And that's what I think
we have the opportunity
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to bring to the table, to
actually document the reality
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or be able to identify a
natural explanation for a lot
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of the strange phenomena.
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Now, Brandon gave
us a really brief
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heads up about Mount Shasta.
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So we were able to pull some
initial information that I
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want to share with you guys.
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Because I think a lot of what
we're talking about right
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now is really relevant.
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So what I have up
on screen now is
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an actual USGS survey of the
area around Mount Shasta.
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And it clearly shows
that there's some kind
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of intense magnetic activity.
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Wow.
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TRAVIS TAYLOR: Notice
that the magnetic anomaly
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is following the fault line.
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And it looks like
Mount Shasta is
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right at the top of that fault.
And that's a pretty strong
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magnetic field right there.
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Well, I mean, one
thing to keep in mind is,
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you know, Shasta is
an active volcano.
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Yeah, that lines up well
with what you just said.
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It sure does, yeah.
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One thing that continues to be
a persistent part of the record
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of Mount Shasta is there is an
underground element, everything
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from lava tubes to even
underground structures that have
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been reported in that area
that may actually hold
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the key to some of the answers.
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Yeah, no question.
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We have some
boots on the ground
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there that I've
been collaborating
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with, in particular, Helena
Reznor, who is a researcher.
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Helena has actually spent
years focusing on that area
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and meeting with people
who are experiencers
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and also researchers that can
help aid our investigation.
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And it's always nice
to walk in when we know
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we have an ally on the ground.
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PAUL BEBAN: And I'm
thinking to that end,
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we're going to reach out to law
enforcement, the local Sheriff
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Jeremiah LaRue.
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I mean, this is an
area where there's
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gonna be a lot of reports.
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Whether they're official,
whether they're on file or not,
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we'll just see what we find.
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Well, this feels like
the moment where we say,
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"Go forth and conquer."
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But I think it's more
like, "Conquer and go forth."
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There you go.
Good luck, guys.
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Thanks, guys.
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TRAVIS TAYLOR: Can't wait
to see what you find.
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See you soon.
PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.
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BRANDON FUGAL: Thank you.
Thanks, gentlemen.
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[suspenseful music]
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PAUL BEBAN: One
of the things that
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strikes me about
this place, I mean,
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just as we're driving in here
is, like, look at how vast
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it is.
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I mean, of all the
places we've been so far,
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this may be the most majestic.
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- It is--
- Do you know what I mean?
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--absolutely stunning.
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I mean, here in
the distance, you
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see Mount Shasta, like, towering
over everything in the area.
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PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.
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But I don't want to
be deceived into looking
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past the fact that it's
also a very strange
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place, a very mysterious place.
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PAUL BEBAN: I mean, it
almost has that kind of Close
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Encounters vibe, right?
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This is a place that
people are drawn to.
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They can't necessarily
even explain why,
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but they just need to be there.
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There really does seem
to be a relationship
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between the people who come
here and the mountain itself.
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PAUL BEBAN: And that
may be ultimately
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the origin of the lore that
goes back thousands of years
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here that this
mountain is alive.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah.
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The question is, can we
get some data to back up
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what people say they've seen.
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There's so much
ground to cover here.
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I wonder if we should
think about just
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splitting up right off the bat.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE:
I've already been
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in touch with Helena Reznor.
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And she's got a location
she wants me to meet her at.
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All right, and I
think what I'll do
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is I'll connect with the local
sheriff, with Sheriff LaRue.
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You know, he's been
here his whole life.
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He's told us that he's been
getting tons of reports,
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actually an uptick in
the past few years,
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that speak to the experiences
that people are having.
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There's some kind of mystery
around the mountain here.
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And no one's been able to
quite unravel what that is.
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Right.
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And now we're gonna
try our hand at it.
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NARRATOR: Paul's first
stop is at Bunny Flat,
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a flash point of
strange occurrences
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at the base of Mount Shasta.
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Hey, Sheriff, thank
you for meeting me here.
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Pleasure.
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So this is it.
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I mean, this is the heart of
the Mount Shasta wilderness.
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You've been here a long time.
You know all about this place.
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Yeah, this is the
place where people
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come to start their journey
to ascend Mount Shasta.
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These are where a lot of
our reports come from.
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- Oh, really?
- Yeah.
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- OK.
- Would you like to take a look?
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Yeah, please.
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All right, let's go.
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Talking to the local
sheriff, that's unusual.
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I mean, we don't
always get cooperation
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from law enforcement.
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But someone like
Sheriff LaRue who
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is from here who can verify
some of these stories,
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this is a great asset for us.
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NARRATOR: While Paul
gathers information
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from the sheriff
at Bunny Flat, Andy
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heads to Ascension Rock,
a notorious hot spot
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near the base of Mount Shasta.
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- You ready?
- Yeah, let's do it.
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Let's go.
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NARRATOR: He joins
investigator Helena Reznor
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to try to prove claims
of Ascension Rock's
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unusual electromagnetic
energies similar to those
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found on Skinwalker Ranch.
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There is an extraneous
magnetic field right here
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messing my compass up.
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Magnetic north has been
shifted by about 5 degrees.
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It's showing north is that way.
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Holy crap.
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HELENA REZNOR: You will
notice this whole area
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is filled with trees that
have been struck by lightning.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Huh.
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This has been
struck by lightning.
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That's been struck by lightning.
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There's trees over that
direction struck by lightning.
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And that's because lightning
is actually attracted
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to energy vortex locations.
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HELENA REZNOR: They
also tend to twist.
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Yeah, you can see the
twist in this tree here.
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HELENA REZNOR: The more you find
twisted and lightning struck
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trees, the more
electromagnetic the area
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is going to be in nature.
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And you can see
all the lightning
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strikes, the trees down
here and the tree down here.
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So would you like me to
show you the perimeter
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edge of this energy vortex?
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If you've got a way to
do it, let's check it out.
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Pretty simple with
some dowsing rods.
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And actually, I have
an extra pair for you
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if you'd like to try it out.
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Yeah, let's do it.
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NARRATOR: Dowsing is a
centuries-old practice
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used to detect potential
electromagnetic fields.
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An investigator holds
two L-shaped copper rods.
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And when an increase in electric
energy current is detected,
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the rods will cross,
seemingly by themselves.
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Just try to keep them
as steady as possible
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facing forward.
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And I'm getting a
reaction right-- whoa.
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Yep, yep, yep, yep.
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I'm with you.
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Take another step forward.
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Yeah, so this is going to be the
perimeter edge of the vortex.
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You see how expansive that is?
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I mean, yeah, that's
the focal point.
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But it's creating a
localized geomagnetic field
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that's expanding all around.
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That's fascinating.
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Yeah.
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Let's run that one more time.
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I would love to see if we
can replicate those results.
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Yeah.
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All right, so let's
approach the perimeter
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that we've discovered here.
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I'm still looking straight.
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Oh, mine are starting to
react right here, right here.
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You got a reaction?
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Right here, woo,
full reaction.
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There go mine.
There go mine.
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Absolutely.
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Dowsing rods are
one of the oldest
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tools in the book for being
able to find a magnetic field.
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And what it's showing us
is that the magnetic field
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here is acting consistently and
predictably over and over again.
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Well, there's really
something measurable
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here about the phenomena
that had been reported.
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And we're just scratching
the surface of it.
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HELENA REZNOR: Absolutely.
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But the real focal
point is up ahead.
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If you get up close
to Ascension Rock,
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this is going to
be the hot spot.
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Do you have a compass on you?
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I have two.
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You want one?
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I'm actually curious now what
our magnetic readings look like,
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compass-wise.
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I'll take mine, too.
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So red is north.
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So the mountain is north.
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Yeah, that's what the
compass is reading right now.
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So it's pointing
towards the mountain.
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Mine's starting
to point northwest
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right now for some reason.
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I've still got normal
readings down here.
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OK, totally disorients here.
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JEREMIAH LARUE: Really?
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It disorients by
45 degrees, I'd say.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Look at that.
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It's telling me
north is that way.
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North is this way.
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[suspenseful music]
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HELENA REZNOR: Mine's starting
to point northwest right now.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I've still
got normal readings down here.
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HELENA REZNOR: OK,
totally disorients here.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Really?
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HELENA REZNOR: It disorients
by 45 degrees, I'd say.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Look at that.
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It's telling me
north is that way.
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North is this way.
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I am a solid 90 degrees off.
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They're the exact same compass.
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Exact same compass, yeah.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: And if
we move them six inches,
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they completely change.
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What we just saw with
our magnetic compasses
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and with old school
dowsing rods, like,
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this formation has a
strong charge to it.
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My suspicion is that this is
happening all over the area.
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It's just that this is
an area that's well known
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but that if we were
to expand our search,
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I bet we would find more
areas like this that share
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some sort of
energetic connection
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through the volcano in some way.
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HELENA REZNOR: Absolutely.
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PAUL BEBAN: This place has
been really a pilgrimage
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maybe for millennia.
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What's your take on it?
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What is the story of this place?
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JEREMIAH LARUE: This mountain
puts out a lot of energy.
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I've talked to a lot of
people that have come here.
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And it's all different.
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People describe
speaking telepathically.
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They seek healing.
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They seek maybe a
revelation of some kind.
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I mean, obviously,
it's beautiful.
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It's wide open.
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You have a great
shot of Mount Shasta.
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It draws a lot of
people to this area.
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Yeah.
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And then we, of course,
have the aerial phenomena
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that is unique to the area.
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We actually get
quite a few calls up
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here for people that are just
seeing things that they don't
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normally see, whether
it's orbs in the sky,
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whether it's actual
craft, or people that
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have been out hiking,
skiing and they
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report seeing figures seven
feet tall and they were glowing.
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They don't have backpacks.
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They don't have skis with them.
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There's no reason that
they would see them
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in some of these remote areas.
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Have you ever had any
personal experiences?
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I have, you know,
one not that long ago.
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I saw a black
triangle, no lights.
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And I just saw it
cruising through the sky.
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And at first I thought, well,
it's probably satellites.
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But as it started to pass,
it slowed down a little bit
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and then made a 90-degree turn.
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When it passed, it blocked
out the stars behind it.
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And I don't know what it was.
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Those are moments that, you
know, I'm just being honest,
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I couldn't tell you what it is.
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And so I put that in the
category of the unexplained.
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Even if just a tiny fraction
are actually something--
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Right, I don't think
you can rule them all out.
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And I think this would be
a potentially great location
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for a night investigation.
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Because we have equipment
to observe the night sky.
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Is this someplace we
could set up tonight?
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- This is an excellent place.
- Fantastic.
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Let me touch base with Andy.
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We'll get the gear up here
and we'll get started.
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- All right.
- OK.
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Thanks so much.
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Thanks.
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NARRATOR: With a perfect vantage
point at the base of Mount
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Shasta, Andy, Paul,
and Sheriff LaRue
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will conduct an
experiment at night
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to see if they can
capture evidence of a UAP.
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So I want to walk you through
a little bit of the equipment
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that we have here real quick.
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So what we're looking at here
is a thermal imaging camera.
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This is the most
sophisticated version of FLIR.
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It's high definition.
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And it wasn't available
to us last year
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at any of our experimentations
and it's never
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set foot on Skinwalker Ranch.
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NARRATOR: The FLIR T1030 is a
high definition thermal camera
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that has a long-range
capability to capture
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the environment's
heat signatures
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and convert them into
digital video images.
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This has never been available
outside of the military before.
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And that's trained
on Mount Shasta.
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That's gonna be our best friend
for seeing anything outside
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of the visible spectrum.
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Here and here we
got flight tracker
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data, satellite tracker data.
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So we're always trying to rule
out aircraft in any sightings
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that we see overhead.
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JEREMIAH LARUE: Right.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Here, we
have two tools called UFODAPs.
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These are our eyes in the
sky, AI-powered machines that
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are designed to be watching
the sky at all times
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because we're going to be
watching everything else.
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And if they find something
that doesn't fit their AI
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index of pre-recorded
data, then they'll
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zoom in, record, and alert us.
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So if we do see
something in the sky,
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then we'll be able to actually
record it and enhance the light
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that it's giving
us so that we'll be
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able to really see it clearly.
- Awesome.
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Shouldn't miss anything, then.
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It's a lot of
comfort blankets.
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Because we really only get one
chance to set it up tonight,
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right?
- Right.
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So if you hear something
strange, if you smell something
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strange, start tasting
something strange,
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don't be embarrassed
to say anything
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that seems or feels strange.
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I'm going to search through
the radio spectrum, Paul.
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PAUL BEBAN: It's
super quiet, huh?
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: It's a
really stable spectrum.
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PAUL BEBAN: Not a lot
of air traffic either.
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You know, we do have one kind
of creative thing on standby.
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We have a tone generator.
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The Skinwalker team has had
investigations where we've
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seen some kind of response that
comes from actual auditory tones
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at specific frequencies.
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So it might be worth us
running a couple of frequencies
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up against the environment
and seeing if it
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causes any kind of response.
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NARRATOR: In 2022,
the team at Skinwalker
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Ranch discovered the
effects of playing
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back a 192-hertz audio tone.
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All right, Travis, we
are about ready to start.
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Have at it!
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Ready for frequency one.
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Let's try 192.
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NARRATOR: Playing the
tone seemed to trigger
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the appearance of a UAP.
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Ho, did y'all see that?
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Right above us right now.
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Something just jumped, I
mean, came right across the sky.
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I think at Skinwalker the
frequency is 192, right?
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192 hertz, I have it set.
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NARRATOR: Now, Andy
and Paul will play back
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the same 192 hertz tone
here at Mount Shasta
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to see if they can
trigger a similar result.
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All right, here we go.
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[tone sounding]
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Oh, Paul, this is
totally different.
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Look at this.
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Where are we now?
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1.4.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: 1.485.
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NARRATOR: When radio frequencies
from 1.4 to 1.8 gigahertz
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are seen on a spectrum
analyzer, that
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indicates Earth-to-space or
space-to-Earth communication.
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It might also signal
the presence of a UAP.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: We've
got multiple peaks
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here, 1.52 gigahertz.
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And now they're totally gone.
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Let me stop the tone generator.
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It did seem to
correspond with the tone.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: It really did.
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Oh, there it goes again.
Did you see it?
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It's like a--
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Look at that.
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Look at that.
Look at that.
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Whoa.
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What is that?
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Whoa.
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Look at this.
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1.71 gigahertz.
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There's tons of energy.
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And you can see
how sporadic it is.
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It's not clean.
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This is just all
over the place.
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All over the place.
Look at that.
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And it just started
up out of nowhere.
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[tone sounding]
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PAUL BEBAN: What was that?
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Oh, UFODAP.
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PAUL BEBAN: Whoa.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE:
--just found something.
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Did you see that?
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PAUL BEBAN: I didn't.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Let
me go to the raw file
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PAUL BEBAN: You're playing
back the DAP right now?
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yep So
these are the DAP hits
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that were happening
at the same time
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that we started seeing
the transient energy here.
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It just got it for a
frame or two it seems like.
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Yep.
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This is us right here.
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I'll take it frame by
frame and advance it.
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So it starts up here.
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PAUL BEBAN: Yeah,
and you can see it's
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starting to get that
almost a tail right there.
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And there it is progressing.
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We've never seen
anything like that.
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How much actual screen
time did we get there?
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE:
Two seconds maybe.
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That moved quick.
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All of a sudden this night
got very interesting, man.
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So the zone where that
would have been visible
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on this recording, right?
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Yep.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: So it
was over here, yeah?
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PAUL BEBAN: Mm-hmm.
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There's no satellites.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE:
Yeah, I was gonna say.
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I mean, that's not what
a plane looks like.
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No, that was not air craft.
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Air traffic
in that area is clear, too.
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But it was fast.
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It was brief.
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It was correlative with the
radio frequency transmissions
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that we were seeing here,
which were also fast,
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brief, and scattered, right?
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Yeah, it's highly
coincidental.
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I mean, the question is,
how were they connected?
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ANDY BUSTAMANTE: If
they're connected, yeah.
499
00:18:21,208 --> 00:18:23,333
Oh, look at that.
500
00:18:23,417 --> 00:18:26,917
Our energy's back
again here, too.
501
00:18:27,042 --> 00:18:28,250
PAUL BEBAN: Another one?
502
00:18:28,333 --> 00:18:29,833
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I'm
having a hard time
503
00:18:29,917 --> 00:18:30,583
keeping up with everything
that's happening right now.
504
00:18:35,250 --> 00:18:36,708
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Oh, UFODAP.
505
00:18:36,792 --> 00:18:38,167
PAUL BEBAN: Another one?
506
00:18:38,250 --> 00:18:40,542
Oh, look at that.
507
00:18:40,542 --> 00:18:42,417
Our energy's back
again here, too.
508
00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:44,167
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I'm
having a hard time
509
00:18:44,250 --> 00:18:45,792
keeping up with everything
that's happening right now.
510
00:18:45,875 --> 00:18:48,500
NARRATOR: Andy and Paul are at
the base of Mount Shasta with
511
00:18:48,583 --> 00:18:52,250
the local sheriff recording a
multitude of strange activity
512
00:18:52,333 --> 00:18:53,833
that all started
when they played
513
00:18:53,958 --> 00:18:58,542
the same 192-hertz audio signal
used on Skinwalker Ranch.
514
00:18:58,625 --> 00:19:00,833
PAUL BEBAN: Do you want to
try to play back the FLIR?
515
00:19:00,958 --> 00:19:02,250
The FLIR, exactly, right.
516
00:19:02,333 --> 00:19:03,917
Our FLIR footage is loaded
up to this computer.
517
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,667
Let's take a look.
518
00:19:05,708 --> 00:19:06,458
Look at that.
519
00:19:06,542 --> 00:19:07,083
Look at that.
520
00:19:07,208 --> 00:19:08,458
What is that?
521
00:19:08,542 --> 00:19:11,375
I'm not seeing any
satellite activity.
522
00:19:11,458 --> 00:19:12,667
It's not an aircraft.
523
00:19:12,708 --> 00:19:13,958
Aircrafts don't put
up heat like that.
524
00:19:14,042 --> 00:19:15,375
PAUL BEBAN: No.
525
00:19:15,458 --> 00:19:16,375
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: That's
not a bat or a bird.
526
00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:17,292
It doesn't have flapping wings.
527
00:19:17,375 --> 00:19:18,833
It's not changing shape.
528
00:19:18,875 --> 00:19:20,042
It's slow.
It's steady.
529
00:19:20,125 --> 00:19:20,792
It's strong.
530
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,333
This spectrum is going crazy.
531
00:19:27,375 --> 00:19:28,500
PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.
532
00:19:28,583 --> 00:19:30,542
Oh, here's something right here.
533
00:19:30,542 --> 00:19:31,375
See it?
534
00:19:31,375 --> 00:19:32,667
You're right, you're right.
535
00:19:32,708 --> 00:19:34,375
PAUL BEBAN: We've got
it recorded again.
536
00:19:34,375 --> 00:19:37,125
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah I'll
play it right back again.
537
00:19:40,042 --> 00:19:40,833
Boom.
538
00:19:40,917 --> 00:19:42,333
OK.
539
00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:44,042
Shape, color is consistent
with the other anomalies
540
00:19:44,125 --> 00:19:45,708
that we've seen.
PAUL BEBAN: Yep.
541
00:19:45,792 --> 00:19:47,000
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: It's against
the coldest part of the sky.
542
00:19:47,042 --> 00:19:47,833
You see that?
543
00:19:47,917 --> 00:19:49,333
PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.
544
00:19:49,417 --> 00:19:51,833
Let me take it slide
by slide, frame by frame.
545
00:19:51,833 --> 00:19:52,750
PAUL BEBAN: Oh, yeah.
546
00:19:52,875 --> 00:19:53,875
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: What is that?
547
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,167
PAUL BEBAN: It kind of wobbles.
548
00:19:55,250 --> 00:19:57,750
It does wobble.
549
00:19:57,875 --> 00:19:59,292
Look at that.
550
00:19:59,375 --> 00:20:01,833
It's like-- it's like
moving like a fish, right?
551
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,667
You see that?
552
00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:04,708
Oh, look.
553
00:20:04,792 --> 00:20:06,417
We've got another object.
554
00:20:06,542 --> 00:20:10,042
It darted straight across from
right to left, 45-degree angle.
555
00:20:10,167 --> 00:20:12,625
FLIR is popping.
556
00:20:12,708 --> 00:20:14,708
[tone sounding]
557
00:20:14,833 --> 00:20:17,208
For all we the visual
orbs that are being reported
558
00:20:17,292 --> 00:20:19,333
are just a fraction of
all the orb activity.
559
00:20:19,417 --> 00:20:22,000
Because they're not using
thermal imaging technology.
560
00:20:22,083 --> 00:20:25,583
This may be something
completely new, a thermal orb.
561
00:20:25,667 --> 00:20:27,333
Let's take a look
at that footage.
562
00:20:27,417 --> 00:20:28,917
Here's the orb you
saw off to the right.
563
00:20:28,917 --> 00:20:30,208
PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.
564
00:20:30,292 --> 00:20:31,083
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Right
here, look at this guy.
565
00:20:31,167 --> 00:20:32,375
PAUL BEBAN: Oh, that's the one.
566
00:20:32,458 --> 00:20:33,208
JEREMIAH LARUE: This is
the one that disappears.
567
00:20:33,333 --> 00:20:33,833
ANDY BUSTAMANTE:
Look right here.
568
00:20:33,875 --> 00:20:34,958
Oh, whoa, whoa.
569
00:20:35,083 --> 00:20:35,875
JEREMIAH LARUE:
There's a second one.
570
00:20:35,958 --> 00:20:37,333
PAUL BEBAN: Yeah, there you go.
571
00:20:37,458 --> 00:20:38,667
We were so busy with that,
I didn't even see that one.
572
00:20:38,750 --> 00:20:40,500
Hold on, that was...
573
00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:41,792
That was two objects.
574
00:20:41,875 --> 00:20:43,417
Did you notice how they
had the same shape?
575
00:20:43,417 --> 00:20:44,583
PAUL BEBAN: Yeah.
576
00:20:44,667 --> 00:20:45,917
ANDY BUSTAMANTE:
Similar trajectories.
577
00:20:46,042 --> 00:20:47,375
They appeared at the same time.
578
00:20:47,375 --> 00:20:48,583
PAUL BEBAN: But completely
different speeds.
579
00:20:48,667 --> 00:20:50,167
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Totally
different speeds.
580
00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:51,625
One of the things that
just I can't ignore
581
00:20:51,708 --> 00:20:54,417
is the fact that these objects
that we see on the FLIR
582
00:20:54,500 --> 00:20:56,958
seem to be going
towards Mount Shasta.
583
00:20:57,042 --> 00:21:00,542
Whether we see slow moving orbs
or fast moving orbs or groups
584
00:21:00,667 --> 00:21:03,833
of orbs, they all seem
to be centering on Mount
585
00:21:03,958 --> 00:21:05,458
Shasta as their destination.
586
00:21:05,542 --> 00:21:06,625
I don't know what this is.
587
00:21:06,708 --> 00:21:08,125
I have no explanation for this.
588
00:21:08,208 --> 00:21:09,458
It's kind of freaking me out.
589
00:21:09,542 --> 00:21:11,125
What are these hot,
high-speed objects?
590
00:21:11,208 --> 00:21:13,000
And they're outside
of the visible spectrum.
591
00:21:13,042 --> 00:21:14,000
Right.
592
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,708
I mean, is this normal?
593
00:21:15,833 --> 00:21:17,542
I've never seen
anything like it before.
594
00:21:17,667 --> 00:21:20,250
Those are clearly
objects moving at speed,
595
00:21:20,333 --> 00:21:23,083
not just some sort of
weird temperature anomaly.
596
00:21:23,208 --> 00:21:24,833
I'm feeling a little
bit overwhelmed, man.
597
00:21:24,958 --> 00:21:26,458
There's this, there's this.
598
00:21:26,542 --> 00:21:28,333
That's still going.
599
00:21:28,375 --> 00:21:31,167
Once we triggered the
192-hertz tone that we borrowed
600
00:21:31,292 --> 00:21:32,375
from Skinwalker Ranch--
PAUL BEBAN: Yep.
601
00:21:32,458 --> 00:21:33,583
--that's when
we really started
602
00:21:33,708 --> 00:21:35,500
tracking to multiple changes.
603
00:21:35,583 --> 00:21:38,500
But what has me fascinated
right now with what's going on
604
00:21:38,583 --> 00:21:41,208
in the FLIR is the
continuity, the continuity
605
00:21:41,208 --> 00:21:43,375
in terms of the
temperature signature
606
00:21:43,375 --> 00:21:45,292
that each of those
anomalies is putting off.
607
00:21:45,375 --> 00:21:47,000
They're within the same
range of each other.
608
00:21:47,042 --> 00:21:48,708
PAUL BEBAN: Right.
609
00:21:48,792 --> 00:21:50,208
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: The shape,
the size, they're consistent.
610
00:21:50,333 --> 00:21:52,917
Yeah, it brings up
just a lot more questions
611
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:53,875
like we're asking.
612
00:21:53,958 --> 00:21:55,042
What are these things?
613
00:21:55,167 --> 00:21:56,708
We'll dig into it
as much as we can.
614
00:21:56,792 --> 00:21:58,500
And anything we learn, we'll
be sure to pass your way.
615
00:21:58,583 --> 00:21:59,958
Great.
I'd love to hear.
616
00:22:05,875 --> 00:22:07,583
PAUL BEBAN: What a day.
617
00:22:07,583 --> 00:22:09,667
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah, and
we're just getting started here.
618
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:10,792
We've seen UAPs.
619
00:22:10,875 --> 00:22:12,958
We've seen just
incredible magnetic
620
00:22:13,042 --> 00:22:14,375
and electromagnetic energy.
621
00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:18,042
We've seen some absolutely
bizarre stuff in a place
622
00:22:18,125 --> 00:22:19,500
that we knew was
going to be bizarre.
623
00:22:19,583 --> 00:22:20,458
Right.
624
00:22:20,542 --> 00:22:21,500
It has compounding anomalies.
625
00:22:21,583 --> 00:22:23,125
It has strange phenomenon.
626
00:22:23,208 --> 00:22:26,333
It really is a sister
location to Skinwalker Ranch.
627
00:22:26,375 --> 00:22:29,500
Yeah, I'm still
fascinated by what you saw,
628
00:22:29,625 --> 00:22:31,000
just with the compasses.
629
00:22:31,042 --> 00:22:32,958
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I mean,
what I saw at Ascension Rock
630
00:22:33,042 --> 00:22:34,958
absolutely just blew
my mind with the amount
631
00:22:35,042 --> 00:22:37,625
of energy that's coming
out of that rock formation.
632
00:22:37,708 --> 00:22:40,000
Like, the magnetic fields,
the electrical energies there
633
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,333
were all over the map.
634
00:22:41,458 --> 00:22:43,625
Which makes me
wonder, like, if we're
635
00:22:43,708 --> 00:22:46,500
seeing those kind of
conditions on the surface
636
00:22:46,583 --> 00:22:49,500
of the mountain,
what's going on inside
637
00:22:49,583 --> 00:22:51,583
that's generating that energy?
638
00:22:51,667 --> 00:22:55,167
There is so much going
on here that maybe
639
00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:57,875
the story is
actually underground
640
00:22:57,958 --> 00:22:59,375
rather than above ground.
641
00:22:59,458 --> 00:23:01,083
When I think about
the Skinwalker team,
642
00:23:01,167 --> 00:23:04,833
they also suspect that the real
secrets of Skinwalker Ranch--
643
00:23:04,958 --> 00:23:06,750
Right, is under the mesa.
644
00:23:06,833 --> 00:23:09,250
But Skinwalker, they
don't have the opportunity
645
00:23:09,333 --> 00:23:10,875
to get underground.
646
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,333
I mean, if they do, they're
going to have to drill.
647
00:23:12,417 --> 00:23:14,375
There's an
extensive network all
648
00:23:14,458 --> 00:23:15,833
over the Mount Shasta region.
649
00:23:15,875 --> 00:23:19,833
We can literally walk in
to the underground layer
650
00:23:19,917 --> 00:23:21,333
of this mountain.
651
00:23:21,417 --> 00:23:22,667
Yeah, I think we've gotta
find that access point
652
00:23:22,667 --> 00:23:23,875
and run experiments there.
653
00:23:29,125 --> 00:23:31,250
PAUL BEBAN: It's a hell
of a way to start the day.
654
00:23:31,333 --> 00:23:32,667
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah.
655
00:23:32,750 --> 00:23:35,000
NARRATOR: Andy and Paul are
headed to Mount Shasta's
656
00:23:35,083 --> 00:23:38,625
extensive cave system in search
of evidence connecting to Mount
657
00:23:38,708 --> 00:23:40,958
Shasta's strange energies.
658
00:23:41,042 --> 00:23:43,625
At Skinwalker Ranch,
the team has found
659
00:23:43,708 --> 00:23:45,292
key evidence underground--
660
00:23:45,375 --> 00:23:48,000
We're hoping that we
can go drill through it
661
00:23:48,042 --> 00:23:49,833
and see if we hit any voids.
662
00:23:49,875 --> 00:23:52,458
NARRATOR: --but only through
painstaking drilling.
663
00:23:52,542 --> 00:23:55,542
This drilling process
takes a lot of time.
664
00:23:55,667 --> 00:23:57,750
That looks like a
big chunk of something.
665
00:23:57,833 --> 00:23:58,667
What is that?
666
00:23:58,750 --> 00:24:00,667
It definitely looks metallic.
667
00:24:00,667 --> 00:24:02,375
NARRATOR: This is an
opportunity to get
668
00:24:02,458 --> 00:24:04,958
underground faster and easier.
669
00:24:05,042 --> 00:24:08,250
They've teamed up with a
local cave exploration company
670
00:24:08,333 --> 00:24:11,500
to conduct experiments at a
popular tourist attraction
671
00:24:11,542 --> 00:24:15,542
called Shasta Caverns, an
ancient cave network rumored
672
00:24:15,625 --> 00:24:18,458
to lead to Mount
Shasta that draws
673
00:24:18,542 --> 00:24:21,375
visitors from all over
the world to experience
674
00:24:21,458 --> 00:24:22,875
its unique energies.
675
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,500
PAUL BEBAN: So, Dave,
you know, Andy and I have
676
00:24:24,625 --> 00:24:26,208
heard a lot about these caves.
677
00:24:26,333 --> 00:24:28,250
This is our chance
to actually get in.
678
00:24:28,375 --> 00:24:30,542
There's not just the
cave we're going to.
679
00:24:30,667 --> 00:24:33,542
There's caves all
over these mountains.
680
00:24:33,667 --> 00:24:36,333
A couple of years ago we found
a cave in the next canyon
681
00:24:36,458 --> 00:24:39,083
over from our cave
called Samwel Cave.
682
00:24:39,208 --> 00:24:43,042
And that comes from a Native
American term "sa-wal."
683
00:24:43,125 --> 00:24:47,375
And a "sa-wal" is a place of
power for Native Americans
684
00:24:47,542 --> 00:24:49,667
where they would go
to receive blessings
685
00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:51,750
and strength and courage.
686
00:24:51,875 --> 00:24:54,875
So there's many
sa-wals in this area.
687
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,333
I mean, often in
that mythology, right,
688
00:24:57,375 --> 00:25:01,042
descending into a cave is a
portal into another world.
689
00:25:01,125 --> 00:25:03,208
I mean, as long as human
beings have been here--
690
00:25:03,292 --> 00:25:04,917
Yeah.
691
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,333
--these places have been
places of spiritual power.
692
00:25:07,417 --> 00:25:09,875
One of the stories that
we've heard many times
693
00:25:09,958 --> 00:25:12,250
about Mount Shasta
is, first of all,
694
00:25:12,333 --> 00:25:14,167
that this is a
massive energy system.
695
00:25:14,250 --> 00:25:19,000
We know that the underlying
geology here is unusual.
696
00:25:19,083 --> 00:25:22,167
This is one of the most dynamic
parts of the entire North
697
00:25:22,250 --> 00:25:23,875
American tectonic system.
698
00:25:23,958 --> 00:25:26,833
And the heart of it is
the mountain itself.
699
00:25:26,875 --> 00:25:29,708
If that's the case, then
what's inside the mountain,
700
00:25:29,833 --> 00:25:32,542
the structure of it is really
going to be like the veins
701
00:25:32,625 --> 00:25:33,667
and arteries, right?
702
00:25:33,708 --> 00:25:35,417
If there's a key
to this mystery,
703
00:25:35,542 --> 00:25:37,292
it's inside the mountain.
704
00:25:37,375 --> 00:25:39,625
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: So into the
hall of the mountain king.
705
00:25:39,708 --> 00:25:41,125
PAUL BEBAN: Into the underworld.
706
00:25:41,208 --> 00:25:42,375
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Whatever
hornet's nest is up
707
00:25:42,458 --> 00:25:43,458
there is about to get kicked.
708
00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:44,500
PAUL BEBAN: Exactly.
709
00:25:47,458 --> 00:25:48,667
And welcome to the cave.
710
00:25:48,750 --> 00:25:49,417
Wow.
711
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:50,500
This is Matt.
712
00:25:50,583 --> 00:25:52,000
Here we are.
Paul Beban.
713
00:25:52,042 --> 00:25:53,667
- Paul, pleasure to meet you.
- Good to meet you.
714
00:25:53,792 --> 00:25:55,292
- Andy.
- Pleasure to meet you.
715
00:25:55,292 --> 00:25:56,167
Thanks for having us.
716
00:25:56,208 --> 00:25:57,625
Oh, of course.
717
00:25:57,708 --> 00:25:59,000
We're excited to find
out some information.
718
00:25:59,042 --> 00:26:00,875
We are excited to see
what's behind that door.
719
00:26:00,958 --> 00:26:02,083
Excellent.
720
00:26:02,208 --> 00:26:03,375
Let's get in and hop
inside the cave right now.
721
00:26:03,458 --> 00:26:05,750
PAUL BEBAN: Let's do it.
722
00:26:05,833 --> 00:26:07,083
All right.
Thank you.
723
00:26:07,208 --> 00:26:08,167
After you, sir.
724
00:26:08,250 --> 00:26:09,667
Oh, wow.
725
00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:11,333
You can feel that
temperature drop right away.
726
00:26:11,458 --> 00:26:12,583
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah, right?
727
00:26:12,667 --> 00:26:14,500
MATT DOYLE: Pretty
amazing, isn't it?
728
00:26:14,542 --> 00:26:16,208
PAUL BEBAN: Wow.
729
00:26:16,333 --> 00:26:17,625
Amazing.
730
00:26:17,708 --> 00:26:19,500
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: What
a rapid transition.
731
00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:21,333
PAUL BEBAN: The energy
just changes, right?
732
00:26:21,375 --> 00:26:22,625
I don't know how
else to describe it.
733
00:26:22,708 --> 00:26:25,292
Like, you just go
from the outside world
734
00:26:25,292 --> 00:26:26,167
to the underworld--
735
00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:26,958
Yeah.
736
00:26:27,083 --> 00:26:27,583
[laughs]
737
00:26:27,667 --> 00:26:28,500
--immediately.
738
00:26:28,542 --> 00:26:30,125
Well, that's correct.
739
00:26:30,125 --> 00:26:31,542
I mean, you have to imagine,
we're sitting in 250
740
00:26:31,667 --> 00:26:33,208
million years of formation.
741
00:26:33,333 --> 00:26:34,833
PAUL BEBAN: You can feel it.
MATT DOYLE: Oh, certainly.
742
00:26:34,917 --> 00:26:36,667
PAUL BEBAN: I mean, it's
not just visual, but
743
00:26:36,750 --> 00:26:37,958
this whole sensory experience.
744
00:26:38,042 --> 00:26:39,833
DAVE MUNDT: I love
being in here.
745
00:26:39,875 --> 00:26:42,417
And I love to be in the cave
alone with the lights off.
746
00:26:42,542 --> 00:26:44,708
And it's so quiet and so dark.
747
00:26:44,792 --> 00:26:48,000
And we leave our anxiety behind.
748
00:26:48,042 --> 00:26:49,083
Feel the peace.
749
00:26:49,167 --> 00:26:50,833
You feel it differently,
even your voice.
750
00:26:50,875 --> 00:26:52,042
MATT DOYLE: You really do.
751
00:26:52,167 --> 00:26:53,333
You really do.
752
00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:55,000
A big part of
what brought us here
753
00:26:55,042 --> 00:26:57,000
were the stories
about the phenomenon
754
00:26:57,042 --> 00:26:58,625
and the mysteries
of the mountain.
755
00:26:58,708 --> 00:27:00,500
Have you experienced
any of those yourselves?
756
00:27:00,542 --> 00:27:02,000
Oh, pretty much
everybody on staff
757
00:27:02,083 --> 00:27:04,500
has had some sort of experience
one way or the other,
758
00:27:04,583 --> 00:27:08,125
from orbs or floating
figures inside the cave,
759
00:27:08,208 --> 00:27:11,667
to a lot of audio things
that are really unexplained.
760
00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:13,125
You've experienced
that personally?
761
00:27:13,208 --> 00:27:14,667
MATT DOYLE: Oh,
correct, yes, I have.
762
00:27:14,750 --> 00:27:15,833
What kind of stuff?
763
00:27:15,917 --> 00:27:17,792
Anything from
children laughter
764
00:27:17,875 --> 00:27:20,458
when we know that we're the
only people inside the cavern.
765
00:27:20,542 --> 00:27:21,458
Children laughing--
766
00:27:21,542 --> 00:27:22,375
MATT DOYLE: Correct, yes.
767
00:27:22,458 --> 00:27:23,333
--in an empty cave?
768
00:27:23,375 --> 00:27:24,167
Yes.
769
00:27:24,250 --> 00:27:25,833
Amazing.
770
00:27:25,875 --> 00:27:28,542
Now you mentioned light
orbs inside the caves, which
771
00:27:28,667 --> 00:27:30,500
is a truly unnatural
phenomenon to have
772
00:27:30,625 --> 00:27:32,917
a source of light
in an area that
773
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,833
is absent of all natural light.
774
00:27:34,917 --> 00:27:38,542
Some of our guests say that
they can see these portals
775
00:27:38,542 --> 00:27:40,500
in the cave and that
they believe that you
776
00:27:40,583 --> 00:27:42,708
can step through
one of these portals
777
00:27:42,792 --> 00:27:44,917
and come out at Mount Shasta.
778
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,750
That's very consistent
with what we've
779
00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:48,375
seen in other investigations.
780
00:27:48,458 --> 00:27:52,000
And it certainly sounds like
possibly some of the stories
781
00:27:52,083 --> 00:27:55,292
about skinwalkers, right,
using portals, using
782
00:27:55,375 --> 00:27:57,042
energy anomalies to-- to--
783
00:27:57,125 --> 00:27:59,125
to move from one
place to another.
784
00:27:59,208 --> 00:28:01,917
NARRATOR: The legend of
skinwalkers as shapeshifters
785
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,542
that can move from one place to
another using portals has been
786
00:28:05,625 --> 00:28:07,875
well documented at
Skinwalker Ranch,
787
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,000
as well as Andy and Paul's
previous investigation at Navajo
788
00:28:12,083 --> 00:28:13,833
Nation.
789
00:28:13,875 --> 00:28:17,125
The skinwalkers are said to
be able to travel vast distances
790
00:28:17,208 --> 00:28:21,125
by sliding into these
dimensional gates
791
00:28:21,208 --> 00:28:24,250
and jumping, almost
like a wormhole effect,
792
00:28:24,333 --> 00:28:26,125
and come out again.
793
00:28:26,208 --> 00:28:28,208
Well, based on the
phenomenon that we've heard,
794
00:28:28,292 --> 00:28:29,792
there's light phenomenon.
795
00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:31,375
There's sound phenomenon.
796
00:28:31,458 --> 00:28:32,667
And there's energy phenomenon.
797
00:28:32,750 --> 00:28:34,458
I'm making a mental
list of the experiments
798
00:28:34,458 --> 00:28:36,000
that we're going to need to run.
799
00:28:36,083 --> 00:28:37,208
Because all three of those
are things we can measure.
800
00:28:37,292 --> 00:28:38,458
Absolutely.
801
00:28:38,542 --> 00:28:40,167
Is there any place
in the cave that you
802
00:28:40,250 --> 00:28:42,583
would recommend we use to stage
multiple pieces of equipment?
803
00:28:42,667 --> 00:28:43,833
I would most
certainly say it's
804
00:28:43,917 --> 00:28:45,167
going to be our cathedral room.
805
00:28:45,208 --> 00:28:46,833
It's our largest room.
- Show us the way.
806
00:28:46,875 --> 00:28:48,167
All right, sounds good.
Let's go.
807
00:28:48,250 --> 00:28:49,333
We'll follow you.
808
00:28:49,417 --> 00:28:54,250
[suspenseful music]
809
00:28:54,333 --> 00:28:55,750
Wow.
810
00:28:55,833 --> 00:28:57,583
Oh my gosh.
811
00:28:57,667 --> 00:28:59,375
You just feel like
you're entering
812
00:28:59,458 --> 00:29:01,375
a massive, sacred space.
813
00:29:04,167 --> 00:29:05,333
Wow.
814
00:29:05,375 --> 00:29:07,000
It's disorienting, man.
815
00:29:07,125 --> 00:29:08,292
It's so big.
816
00:29:08,375 --> 00:29:10,167
I mean, how high is
the ceiling above us?
817
00:29:10,208 --> 00:29:12,875
We're roughly about 180
feet from the very bottom
818
00:29:12,958 --> 00:29:15,292
of this pit, all the way
to the top of the fall.
819
00:29:15,375 --> 00:29:18,000
So, I mean, we're talking
like a 16-story building
820
00:29:18,083 --> 00:29:19,833
could fit from here to there.
821
00:29:19,958 --> 00:29:21,292
MATT DOYLE: Correct, yes.
822
00:29:21,375 --> 00:29:23,958
I mean, this is definitely
where we need to stage.
823
00:29:23,958 --> 00:29:25,833
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I am
really excited to launch
824
00:29:25,917 --> 00:29:27,208
some experiments in here, man.
825
00:29:27,292 --> 00:29:29,500
PAUL BEBAN: Yeah, what a
spot for us to work in.
826
00:29:29,625 --> 00:29:30,583
All right, well,
should we get ready?
827
00:29:30,708 --> 00:29:31,708
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah.
828
00:29:31,792 --> 00:29:32,875
Time to see what
this cave's got.
829
00:29:36,875 --> 00:29:38,000
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: All right.
830
00:29:38,042 --> 00:29:39,167
So this guy's warming up.
831
00:29:39,250 --> 00:29:40,667
And we'll be able to
check this as we go.
832
00:29:40,833 --> 00:29:41,833
MATT DOYLE: Hey, it looks
like you're all set up.
833
00:29:41,958 --> 00:29:42,542
PAUL BEBAN: Have you
seen this kind of set
834
00:29:42,667 --> 00:29:43,833
up before in the cavern?
835
00:29:43,958 --> 00:29:45,667
This would be a first
for me, that's for sure.
836
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:47,875
NARRATOR: Andy and Paul
are bringing technology
837
00:29:47,958 --> 00:29:50,167
to Shasta Caverns
for the first time
838
00:29:50,250 --> 00:29:53,667
to poke the hornet's nest with
a host of instruments designed
839
00:29:53,708 --> 00:29:56,333
to capture anomalous
light, sound,
840
00:29:56,417 --> 00:30:00,333
and energy deep in the heart of
the Mount Shasta cave system.
841
00:30:00,417 --> 00:30:02,667
One of the things that's
different about this, we've
842
00:30:02,708 --> 00:30:05,542
never done experiments
really indoors.
843
00:30:05,542 --> 00:30:06,500
I mean, we're not indoors.
844
00:30:06,625 --> 00:30:07,958
We're inside of a mountain.
845
00:30:08,083 --> 00:30:09,833
But we're still going
to be running the FLIRs.
846
00:30:09,958 --> 00:30:12,083
We're going to be looking
for thermal anomalies.
847
00:30:12,083 --> 00:30:14,792
We're using a parabolic
mic for the first time.
848
00:30:14,875 --> 00:30:18,792
This will pick up small
trace noises from anywhere
849
00:30:18,875 --> 00:30:20,042
where it's
directionally pointed.
850
00:30:20,125 --> 00:30:22,042
PAUL BEBAN: So if we
hear anything unusual,
851
00:30:22,167 --> 00:30:25,208
we can really try to hone in on
it and see maybe what that is.
852
00:30:25,292 --> 00:30:26,292
This is exciting.
853
00:30:26,375 --> 00:30:27,500
Mm-hmm.
854
00:30:27,625 --> 00:30:28,708
PAUL BEBAN: Let's roll.
855
00:30:28,833 --> 00:30:29,417
ANDY BUSTAMANTE:
Yeah, we're set up.
856
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:30,708
We're recording.
857
00:30:30,792 --> 00:30:31,833
Let me turn on our
spectrum analyzer.
858
00:30:31,917 --> 00:30:33,500
This will be reviewing
and listening
859
00:30:33,583 --> 00:30:35,875
in on whatever radio frequencies
are happening in our area.
860
00:30:38,417 --> 00:30:40,500
So I'm gonna surf the
bands, Paul, and see--
861
00:30:40,583 --> 00:30:41,542
Yeah.
862
00:30:41,625 --> 00:30:44,208
--what things look like.
863
00:30:44,292 --> 00:30:46,750
One thing that we hear
a lot from the team back
864
00:30:46,833 --> 00:30:50,833
at Skinwalker Ranch is to watch
out for a misbehaving spectrum.
865
00:30:50,917 --> 00:30:52,500
You'll know strange
when you see it.
866
00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:53,625
- Exactly.
- All right.
867
00:30:53,708 --> 00:30:55,042
PAUL BEBAN: It's very apparent.
868
00:30:55,042 --> 00:30:56,500
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: You
can see that the energy
869
00:30:56,542 --> 00:30:58,500
is low, fairly steady.
PAUL BEBAN: Little flickers.
870
00:30:58,583 --> 00:30:59,792
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah.
PAUL BEBAN: Do you see that?
871
00:30:59,875 --> 00:31:01,333
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Mm-hmm.
872
00:31:01,375 --> 00:31:03,833
Andy, I'm kind of surprised
just right off the bat
873
00:31:03,875 --> 00:31:05,833
to see that we're
getting so much RF
874
00:31:05,875 --> 00:31:07,708
activity in the cave itself.
875
00:31:07,708 --> 00:31:08,500
Yeah.
876
00:31:11,208 --> 00:31:12,708
PAUL BEBAN: Pretty
busy through here.
877
00:31:12,792 --> 00:31:14,833
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yep.
878
00:31:14,917 --> 00:31:17,208
So here, this is our
strongest zone, Paul.
879
00:31:17,292 --> 00:31:20,333
Our strongest area of activity
is most definitely starting
880
00:31:20,375 --> 00:31:23,000
at about 1.6 gigahertz.
881
00:31:23,083 --> 00:31:24,292
Wow.
882
00:31:24,375 --> 00:31:25,333
Look at that.
883
00:31:25,375 --> 00:31:26,917
So that's interesting.
884
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,833
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: It seems
like as we climb higher
885
00:31:28,917 --> 00:31:30,375
into these more
privileged zones,
886
00:31:30,458 --> 00:31:33,125
you see more of
these energy bursts.
887
00:31:33,208 --> 00:31:35,167
Tell me again what's
a privilege zone?
888
00:31:35,208 --> 00:31:36,833
So a privilege zone
is a zone that you
889
00:31:36,958 --> 00:31:38,208
and I can't transmit on.
890
00:31:38,292 --> 00:31:39,333
Oh, OK.
891
00:31:39,458 --> 00:31:41,333
A normal civilian
or commercial entity
892
00:31:41,417 --> 00:31:44,208
can't transmit
above 1.6 gigahertz.
893
00:31:44,292 --> 00:31:47,750
It's reserved for government
use and for Earth-to-space and
894
00:31:47,833 --> 00:31:48,958
space-to-Earth communication.
895
00:31:49,042 --> 00:31:50,458
PAUL BEBAN: Here's
my question, though.
896
00:31:50,542 --> 00:31:52,792
I mean, we're underground,
deep underground.
897
00:31:52,875 --> 00:31:54,208
Shouldn't we be shielded?
- Yep.
898
00:31:54,292 --> 00:31:55,583
Yeah.
899
00:31:55,667 --> 00:31:58,125
Is this some kind of
effect of being in a cave?
900
00:31:58,208 --> 00:32:02,542
I mean, or is it the energy
signature of the cave itself?
901
00:32:02,625 --> 00:32:03,625
What is going on?
902
00:32:03,708 --> 00:32:05,250
I don't understand that.
903
00:32:05,375 --> 00:32:07,250
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: The whole
reason we came to Mount Shasta
904
00:32:07,333 --> 00:32:08,833
was because we got
reports of energy--
905
00:32:08,917 --> 00:32:09,667
PAUL BEBAN: Right.
906
00:32:09,792 --> 00:32:10,958
--originating here.
907
00:32:11,042 --> 00:32:12,667
Well, my question
is, is it possible
908
00:32:12,708 --> 00:32:16,583
that whatever energy anomaly
this may be that it's distorting
909
00:32:16,708 --> 00:32:19,250
either our equipment or--
910
00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:20,958
I don't know.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah.
911
00:32:20,958 --> 00:32:22,375
I mean, I'm
wondering, given what
912
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:24,875
we're seeing, if maybe our
equipment has some kind
913
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,458
of effect on the energy.
914
00:32:26,542 --> 00:32:29,167
Do you want to try
and go lights out?
915
00:32:29,292 --> 00:32:31,500
Go dark.
916
00:32:31,583 --> 00:32:33,125
Let's go for it
917
00:32:33,208 --> 00:32:35,208
NARRATOR: Having already
detected strange energy spikes
918
00:32:35,333 --> 00:32:37,375
that shouldn't be
present in a cave,
919
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:41,083
the team decides to turn off
all their electrical devices,
920
00:32:41,167 --> 00:32:44,292
including light sources, to
isolate for an experiment
921
00:32:44,375 --> 00:32:47,708
to see if they can capture
evidence of the audio phenomenon
922
00:32:47,708 --> 00:32:49,333
the cave guides have reported.
923
00:32:49,417 --> 00:32:50,958
So we'll close
down the FLIRs, we'll
924
00:32:51,042 --> 00:32:52,583
close down everything else.
925
00:32:52,667 --> 00:32:54,833
And we'll listen to see if
the mountain is talking to us.
926
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:55,792
Let's give it a try.
927
00:32:55,875 --> 00:32:57,542
Let's do it.
928
00:32:57,667 --> 00:32:59,583
I don't know what's going on
with the energy in this cave.
929
00:32:59,708 --> 00:33:02,250
But as far as our audio
experiments are concerned,
930
00:33:02,250 --> 00:33:05,167
you couldn't ask for a
more interesting space.
931
00:33:05,208 --> 00:33:08,250
Being in total darkness
and silence in there,
932
00:33:08,250 --> 00:33:11,708
we can really try to home in
on it and get a good recording
933
00:33:11,833 --> 00:33:13,333
and see maybe what that is.
934
00:33:13,417 --> 00:33:15,292
I'm going to kill the monitors.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Go ahead.
935
00:33:15,375 --> 00:33:17,583
PAUL BEBAN: All right, I'm
going to kill my headlamp.
936
00:33:17,667 --> 00:33:19,125
Killing mine.
937
00:33:19,250 --> 00:33:20,333
Done.
938
00:33:20,417 --> 00:33:21,375
PAUL BEBAN: You ready
on the parabolic?
939
00:33:21,542 --> 00:33:22,500
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Ready.
940
00:33:22,583 --> 00:33:24,000
NARRATOR: A parabolic
microphone is
941
00:33:24,083 --> 00:33:26,708
so sensitive it can pick
up even the slightest
942
00:33:26,833 --> 00:33:28,500
whisper at a great distance.
943
00:33:28,542 --> 00:33:31,250
If any strange sounds
occur in the cave,
944
00:33:31,333 --> 00:33:33,833
they will be recorded
as a high quality audio
945
00:33:33,917 --> 00:33:35,958
signal for further analysis.
946
00:33:36,042 --> 00:33:39,083
All right, and
we're recording.
947
00:33:39,083 --> 00:33:40,542
And I'll give you a 3, 2, 1.
948
00:33:40,625 --> 00:33:42,292
All right, we're
ready when you are, sir.
949
00:33:42,375 --> 00:33:43,958
- Clear.
- All righty.
950
00:33:43,958 --> 00:33:46,583
And 3, 2, 1.
951
00:33:51,583 --> 00:33:55,542
[whirring]
952
00:34:10,125 --> 00:34:12,000
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I feel
like I can hear the blood
953
00:34:12,042 --> 00:34:13,333
pumping through my heart.
954
00:34:13,458 --> 00:34:15,125
PAUL BEBAN: I feel like
I hear the blood pumping
955
00:34:15,208 --> 00:34:18,250
through your heart, dude.
956
00:34:18,375 --> 00:34:20,333
It's the sound of silence, man.
957
00:34:20,417 --> 00:34:23,292
It's amazing.
958
00:34:23,375 --> 00:34:26,208
I mean, we've got a good
sample there of the silence.
959
00:34:26,292 --> 00:34:28,292
We'll just go back and see
if there's anything there.
960
00:34:28,375 --> 00:34:30,208
Or do you want to
get a longer stretch?
961
00:34:30,292 --> 00:34:32,083
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: I do not
want a longer stretch.
962
00:34:32,167 --> 00:34:33,875
PAUL BEBAN: OK.
963
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,167
Can we get the power back on?
964
00:34:35,292 --> 00:34:36,750
MATT DOYLE: [laughs] All right.
965
00:34:39,958 --> 00:34:41,292
Wow.
966
00:34:41,417 --> 00:34:43,167
I felt very small in the dark.
967
00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:45,083
I was just gonna say,
the whole place just
968
00:34:45,167 --> 00:34:46,792
contracted in on me.
969
00:34:46,792 --> 00:34:48,500
Oh my gosh.
970
00:34:48,542 --> 00:34:50,667
I'm just gonna do a real
quick listen through, Paul--
971
00:34:50,750 --> 00:34:52,292
PAUL BEBAN: OK.
972
00:34:52,375 --> 00:34:53,958
--to see if anything
popped on that parabolic.
973
00:34:54,042 --> 00:34:55,667
MATT DOYLE: And I'll
give you a 3 2, 1.
974
00:35:01,250 --> 00:35:02,333
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Hold on.
Hold on.
975
00:35:02,458 --> 00:35:03,500
PAUL BEBAN: There's nothing.
976
00:35:03,542 --> 00:35:04,667
ANDY BUSTAMANTE:
There's no data.
977
00:35:04,708 --> 00:35:06,042
But I did say 3, 2, 1.
978
00:35:06,167 --> 00:35:07,500
PAUL BEBAN: You absolutely did.
- You did.
979
00:35:07,583 --> 00:35:08,667
ANDY BUSTAMANTE:
Hold on, hold on.
980
00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:09,792
Because it comes back here.
981
00:35:18,375 --> 00:35:19,667
What happened in between?
982
00:35:19,792 --> 00:35:21,250
PAUL BEBAN: What happened
in between there?
983
00:35:21,333 --> 00:35:23,625
I mean, it's not like
it's sound activated.
984
00:35:23,708 --> 00:35:25,500
I mean, it's recording
the whole time.
985
00:35:25,583 --> 00:35:27,750
Something weird is
going on in here,
986
00:35:27,833 --> 00:35:32,875
the relationship between sound
and other forms of energy.
987
00:35:32,958 --> 00:35:38,000
What if the cave is absorbing
the energy we put out there.
988
00:35:38,125 --> 00:35:39,417
Wait, what?
989
00:35:39,542 --> 00:35:41,958
I am very suspicious
right now that there could
990
00:35:42,042 --> 00:35:44,292
be some kind of event
where the phenomenon
991
00:35:44,375 --> 00:35:47,333
here is consuming energy.
992
00:35:47,375 --> 00:35:50,333
So you're saying, even
though we can hear it,
993
00:35:50,375 --> 00:35:53,125
the cave is somehow
drawing energy away
994
00:35:53,125 --> 00:35:54,833
so the mic can't pick it up?
995
00:35:54,875 --> 00:35:57,583
The story of Mount
Shasta is that this place
996
00:35:57,708 --> 00:36:01,250
exudes positive energy and
that's what draws people here.
997
00:36:01,375 --> 00:36:04,875
What I think Andy and I might
be sort of knocking on the door
998
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,750
with is the mountain
itself sucking
999
00:36:07,833 --> 00:36:09,208
energy out of the environment.
1000
00:36:09,292 --> 00:36:11,000
I think that's something
we're going to have to dig
1001
00:36:11,083 --> 00:36:12,542
a little bit more deeply into.
1002
00:36:12,625 --> 00:36:14,667
There's something
here that speaks
1003
00:36:14,708 --> 00:36:18,000
to the truth of the stories,
your personal experiences,
1004
00:36:18,083 --> 00:36:19,458
the history of Mount Shasta.
1005
00:36:19,542 --> 00:36:22,292
This is a phenomenal place.
1006
00:36:22,375 --> 00:36:24,167
This is the
point where we hand
1007
00:36:24,250 --> 00:36:25,458
it off to the Skinwalker team.
1008
00:36:25,542 --> 00:36:26,375
[laughs]
1009
00:36:26,458 --> 00:36:28,042
Hey, guys, here's what we got.
1010
00:36:28,125 --> 00:36:30,583
The benefit of
being investigators.
1011
00:36:30,667 --> 00:36:32,000
Here's the data.
1012
00:36:32,042 --> 00:36:32,917
You figure it out.
1013
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,167
Take a crack at it now.
1014
00:36:38,625 --> 00:36:39,792
BRANDON FUGAL: All
right, gentlemen.
1015
00:36:39,875 --> 00:36:41,833
We've been anxious to
hear your findings.
1016
00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:43,250
What do you have for us?
1017
00:36:43,375 --> 00:36:44,500
PAUL BEBAN: Well, I think
Mount Shasta delivered--
1018
00:36:44,625 --> 00:36:46,292
- Yeah.
- --is the top line here.
1019
00:36:46,375 --> 00:36:48,167
This is going
to blow you away.
1020
00:36:48,250 --> 00:36:51,583
We had a really rich
mix of local expertise,
1021
00:36:51,708 --> 00:36:53,375
in terms of the
anecdotal evidence,
1022
00:36:53,542 --> 00:36:56,083
but also just the history
and geology of the area,
1023
00:36:56,167 --> 00:36:58,792
which is really complex.
1024
00:36:58,792 --> 00:37:01,833
I was working with the local
sheriff, Sheriff Jeremiah LaRue.
1025
00:37:01,958 --> 00:37:04,042
We invited Sheriff
LaRue to join
1026
00:37:04,125 --> 00:37:05,500
us on an evening experiment.
1027
00:37:05,542 --> 00:37:07,000
It's an area
called Bunny Flat.
1028
00:37:07,042 --> 00:37:08,417
And he said, look,
this is just a place
1029
00:37:08,542 --> 00:37:10,125
where people have, I
think in his words,
1030
00:37:10,208 --> 00:37:11,958
just seen a lot of weird stuff.
1031
00:37:12,042 --> 00:37:17,167
We had multiple UAP
sightings on both the UFODAP
1032
00:37:17,208 --> 00:37:18,667
and on our thermal camera.
1033
00:37:18,750 --> 00:37:23,000
All of that happened
after we played the tone.
1034
00:37:23,083 --> 00:37:25,417
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: After we
triggered the 192-hertz tone.
1035
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:27,500
Yeah, wow.
PAUL BEBAN: The skinwalker tone.
1036
00:37:27,583 --> 00:37:30,042
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: The FLIR hits
that I'm about to show you now
1037
00:37:30,125 --> 00:37:31,500
were all captured in real time.
1038
00:37:31,583 --> 00:37:33,500
From the upper right
hand side of the screen,
1039
00:37:33,583 --> 00:37:36,750
you see these two orbs
that are heat signatures.
1040
00:37:36,833 --> 00:37:39,417
It looks like it either goes
behind the mountain or possibly
1041
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:40,667
into the mountain.
1042
00:37:40,750 --> 00:37:42,125
They're only UAPs
right now because we
1043
00:37:42,208 --> 00:37:42,917
don't know what they are.
- Correct.
1044
00:37:43,042 --> 00:37:44,208
Right?
1045
00:37:44,333 --> 00:37:45,167
They could turn
out to be something
1046
00:37:45,208 --> 00:37:46,375
completely explainable.
1047
00:37:46,458 --> 00:37:47,667
I mean, we've got
the flight tracker
1048
00:37:47,708 --> 00:37:49,250
and the satellite
tracker running.
1049
00:37:49,333 --> 00:37:51,333
You're not seeing
satellites or airplanes.
1050
00:37:51,417 --> 00:37:54,292
But whatever that was
flying in the air,
1051
00:37:54,375 --> 00:37:57,167
it was as warm or at
least as reflective
1052
00:37:57,292 --> 00:37:59,208
to appear to be the
same color temperature.
1053
00:37:59,333 --> 00:38:01,000
So that's really interesting.
1054
00:38:01,083 --> 00:38:02,875
It makes me think it may have
been putting out its own light.
1055
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,333
I'm glad we have
this instrument.
1056
00:38:04,458 --> 00:38:06,750
We didn't have this
instrument in our inventory
1057
00:38:06,750 --> 00:38:08,792
during the first phase
of our work together.
1058
00:38:08,792 --> 00:38:10,208
PAUL BEBAN: Right.
1059
00:38:10,208 --> 00:38:13,083
So this is really a
nice new piece of tech.
1060
00:38:13,083 --> 00:38:15,500
Now, what we found
in this area was
1061
00:38:15,583 --> 00:38:19,125
there's a cave network that
connects all the way up
1062
00:38:19,208 --> 00:38:20,792
to Mount Shasta itself.
1063
00:38:20,875 --> 00:38:24,083
Our goal was to try to look for
signs of energy, energy flows,
1064
00:38:24,208 --> 00:38:27,583
energy shifts, energy changes,
as well as any anomalies that
1065
00:38:27,667 --> 00:38:29,542
might be outside of the
visual range or outside
1066
00:38:29,625 --> 00:38:30,833
of our normal auditory range.
1067
00:38:30,917 --> 00:38:32,583
Good.
1068
00:38:32,583 --> 00:38:34,125
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Here you
see a bird's eye view of just
1069
00:38:34,208 --> 00:38:35,833
our actual command center.
1070
00:38:35,917 --> 00:38:38,750
And what we wanted to do was we
wanted to set up a parabolic mic
1071
00:38:38,833 --> 00:38:42,458
so that we could try to
identify any unnatural sounds,
1072
00:38:42,542 --> 00:38:45,250
any sounds that were
potentially tied to some change
1073
00:38:45,250 --> 00:38:46,875
that we were putting
into the environment.
1074
00:38:46,958 --> 00:38:49,458
So we asked them to kill
all lights, everything.
1075
00:38:49,542 --> 00:38:50,500
We fell into darkness.
1076
00:38:50,583 --> 00:38:52,333
I like that you did that.
1077
00:38:52,417 --> 00:38:54,875
And during our parabolic
microphone experiment,
1078
00:38:54,958 --> 00:38:59,375
our parabolic mic was
working without picking up
1079
00:38:59,375 --> 00:39:00,917
ambient noise.
1080
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,375
It would pick up sporadic noise.
1081
00:39:03,458 --> 00:39:07,500
But it didn't function
appropriately.
1082
00:39:07,542 --> 00:39:09,292
PAUL BEBAN: We cut
the external power.
1083
00:39:09,375 --> 00:39:11,833
Mic is still powered.
1084
00:39:11,917 --> 00:39:14,542
But the mic just cuts off.
1085
00:39:14,542 --> 00:39:17,708
And here's our full audio
file from the parabolic mic.
1086
00:39:17,833 --> 00:39:20,375
So as you can see, if it
was just a matter of a gate,
1087
00:39:20,458 --> 00:39:21,833
then we would have
picked up nothing.
1088
00:39:21,875 --> 00:39:23,708
But that's not, in
fact, what happened.
1089
00:39:23,792 --> 00:39:26,167
ANDY BUSTAMANTE (ON TAPE): I
feel like I can hear the blood
1090
00:39:26,208 --> 00:39:27,333
pumping through my heart.
1091
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:31,792
So do we know if
anyone was speaking
1092
00:39:31,875 --> 00:39:34,000
during this silent period
that we're not hearing?
1093
00:39:34,125 --> 00:39:37,917
There was speech going
on and it just went dead?
1094
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,792
I feel like I can hear the
blood pumping through my heart.
1095
00:39:40,875 --> 00:39:42,917
PAUL BEBAN: I feel like
I hear the blood pumping
1096
00:39:42,917 --> 00:39:46,042
through your heart, dude.
1097
00:39:46,125 --> 00:39:47,750
Wow, unreal.
1098
00:39:47,875 --> 00:39:49,875
It begs the question, what is
happening in this environment.
1099
00:39:49,958 --> 00:39:51,167
PAUL BEBAN: Exactly.
ANDY BUSTAMANTE: Yeah.
1100
00:39:51,250 --> 00:39:52,417
That's not natural.
1101
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:54,250
Yeah, something is
causing it to stop
1102
00:39:54,333 --> 00:39:56,083
or the data is being removed.
1103
00:39:56,208 --> 00:39:57,167
Or something buried--
1104
00:39:57,208 --> 00:39:58,833
Or something else.
1105
00:39:58,875 --> 00:40:03,375
Something buried within that
area, much like what we believe
1106
00:40:03,375 --> 00:40:04,833
is buried here within the mesa.
1107
00:40:04,958 --> 00:40:06,292
Certainly.
1108
00:40:06,375 --> 00:40:07,542
But the most significant
of all the anomalies
1109
00:40:07,667 --> 00:40:09,500
that we saw electronically
was what I'm
1110
00:40:09,583 --> 00:40:11,292
pulling up for you right now.
1111
00:40:11,375 --> 00:40:14,708
We started specifically looking
at these suspect spectrum ranges
1112
00:40:14,833 --> 00:40:16,792
that we've seen before
in our investigations,
1113
00:40:16,875 --> 00:40:18,958
as well as what you've seen
here on Skinwalker Ranch,
1114
00:40:19,042 --> 00:40:22,000
that we know are reserved for
Earth-to-space transmissions and
1115
00:40:22,083 --> 00:40:23,542
space-to-Earth transmissions.
1116
00:40:23,542 --> 00:40:26,667
And that's where we lock
in here at 1.6 gigahertz.
1117
00:40:26,708 --> 00:40:28,500
That right there,
look at that.
1118
00:40:28,542 --> 00:40:32,167
That is a lot of energy
across the spectrum around 1.6
1119
00:40:32,208 --> 00:40:33,708
inside a cave.
1120
00:40:33,833 --> 00:40:37,167
I gotta tell you, I
can't, for the life of me,
1121
00:40:37,292 --> 00:40:39,167
figure out how you
get a microwave
1122
00:40:39,250 --> 00:40:41,542
signal down inside a cave.
1123
00:40:41,542 --> 00:40:46,125
Why are we getting 1.6 gigahertz
signals inside this cave
1124
00:40:46,208 --> 00:40:47,000
at Mount Shasta?
1125
00:40:47,125 --> 00:40:48,667
It makes no sense to me.
1126
00:40:48,708 --> 00:40:50,500
So you're saying that it
should be shielded from the--
1127
00:40:50,625 --> 00:40:52,125
I mean, just because of the
fact that we're underground.
1128
00:40:52,208 --> 00:40:53,625
Because you got
layers of earth.
1129
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:55,917
Microwave signals don't
pass through dirt very well.
1130
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,458
You know, about that much dirt
is all you need to block it.
1131
00:40:58,542 --> 00:41:01,333
Well, it speaks to some
type of advanced technology
1132
00:41:01,417 --> 00:41:04,250
that is being utilized
that we just don't have.
1133
00:41:04,375 --> 00:41:05,833
Yes.
1134
00:41:05,958 --> 00:41:08,583
This could very well be
evidence of some intelligence
1135
00:41:08,667 --> 00:41:10,625
that is monitoring
your activities
1136
00:41:10,708 --> 00:41:12,583
and leaving this type
of trace evidence.
1137
00:41:12,667 --> 00:41:14,292
I mean, I know this
is just speculation,
1138
00:41:14,375 --> 00:41:16,250
but you have hard data.
1139
00:41:16,333 --> 00:41:17,458
It's not a bad speculation.
1140
00:41:17,542 --> 00:41:19,125
It's difficult to refute.
1141
00:41:19,208 --> 00:41:21,167
When you're in that cave and
when we turned off the lights,
1142
00:41:21,292 --> 00:41:24,125
I mean, you are in a fully
sensory deprived environment.
1143
00:41:24,208 --> 00:41:25,042
Yes.
1144
00:41:25,042 --> 00:41:26,458
There's nothing.
1145
00:41:26,542 --> 00:41:29,417
And yet to find that, of
all things, was haunting.
1146
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:31,000
It makes no sense, does it?
1147
00:41:31,083 --> 00:41:33,875
And other readings, other
strange things occurring.
1148
00:41:33,958 --> 00:41:35,833
Those are weird things
you found in a place
1149
00:41:35,875 --> 00:41:37,958
where there shouldn't have
been anything but darkness.
1150
00:41:38,042 --> 00:41:39,333
Yeah.
1151
00:41:39,417 --> 00:41:41,000
What we see here is
a definite correlation
1152
00:41:41,042 --> 00:41:43,083
to what we have experienced
here at Skinwalker Ranch.
1153
00:41:43,208 --> 00:41:44,833
It really begs the question.
1154
00:41:44,958 --> 00:41:47,125
What is it going on
beneath Mount Shasta?
1155
00:41:47,208 --> 00:41:50,750
Is there an underground base
or some unnatural source
1156
00:41:50,750 --> 00:41:53,833
that is creating the phenomena?
1157
00:41:53,875 --> 00:41:57,500
Well, it certainly begs
for a return analysis
1158
00:41:57,542 --> 00:41:59,000
and return measurements.
1159
00:41:59,125 --> 00:42:02,500
Well, Mount Shasta was
mysterious to me before.
1160
00:42:02,542 --> 00:42:06,208
Now, it's opened up a whole
new series of questions
1161
00:42:06,292 --> 00:42:07,583
that I think need
to be answered.
1162
00:42:07,708 --> 00:42:09,958
There is legitimacy to the lore.
1163
00:42:10,042 --> 00:42:12,250
Yeah, I feel like you haven't
just put a pin in the map,
1164
00:42:12,375 --> 00:42:15,250
you've really put a golden
spike in the map on this one.
1165
00:42:15,375 --> 00:42:16,833
Let's use this
as a springboard.
1166
00:42:16,958 --> 00:42:19,583
And I can't wait to see
what we dig up next.
84717
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