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[intriguing music plays]
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[woman] I never thought that
I would become a victim of romance fraud.
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When I decided to tell my story
to the world, it just blew up.
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[dramatic music plays]
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[male newsreader] The widely popular
Netflix documentary Tinder Swindler
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plays out like a heist movie
or a sinister version of a rom-com.
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[Cecilie] I fell for a man
who scammed me out of $250,000.
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He thought he'd broken me.
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[chimes]
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[Cecilie] But then so many other victims
reached out wanting my help.
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[woman] Hi, Cecilie.
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[woman 2] My boyfriend said
he was a tech millionaire.
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[woman 3] His parents were sick,
so he needed money to help them.
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[woman 4] But it was all a lie.
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[woman 5] I gave him $150,000.
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[woman 6] He left me
in almost $2 million of debt.
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[woman 7] I really need your help.
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These scammers have been getting away
with this for way too long.
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[upbeat music plays]
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[Cecilie] I just had to do something.
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Brianne Joseph is a private investigator.
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You recognize this guy?
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And one of the best in the world.
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I'm like a pit bull. When I grab
hold of something, I don't let it go.
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That is what makes me a badass.
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[Cecilie] She knows
how to track these fraudsters down.
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-[Brianne] That's him. Clear as day.
-[Cecilie gasps]
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[Cecilie] And get the evidence
that we need.
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He had a restraining order
put out against him.
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-[woman] He's hauling ass now.
-Haul ass with him.
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We're gonna find them.
If he has someone with him, expose them.
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[woman 2] Were the tears real?
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-$750,000.
-And bring them to justice.
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You belong in jail.
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For me, this is personal.
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Breaks my heart.
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I know exactly how she was feeling,
how she was scared.
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[sobs]
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[dramatic music plays]
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[woman] Like, you stole everything.
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-[Brianne] He's moving really fast.
-[Cecilie gasps]
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-I have to say, it's evil.
-[Brianne] That's him there.
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[woman] Oh my God.
Oh, now my heart's beating.
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It's them that should be hiding in shame,
not us.
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He can't run forever.
We gotta go now. Go, go, go!
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[music intensifies]
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[Brianne] Justice!
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-[man] Show me your hands. Do it now!
-Fuck, man.
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[music fades]
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[tense music plays]
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[ethereal music plays]
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[on phone] Hi, Cecilie.
My name is Jill Schardein.
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[Jill] I met a man online, Todd Dean.
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We dated for almost a year.
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I gave him most of my savings,
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but now he's gone.
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I really don't know what to do.
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[Cecilie] I'm feeling nervous
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because you never know
what kind of headspace victims are in.
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Being able to sit there
and hopefully be a safe space.
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That is what I want.
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[Jill] The police are saying
there's not enough evidence,
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that it's a civil matter,
so I really need your help.
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[Cecilie] If we're gonna be able
to help Jill,
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we need to understand what is going on.
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Was it fraud or was it just
a relationship gone wrong?
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[music fades]
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This is a selfie video,
and those are… those are videos of him.
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[Todd] Sweet messages.
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I just wish I was with you
or you were with me. That's what I wish.
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[romantic music plays]
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[Jill] I met Todd Dean on Facebook Dating.
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This was the first time
that I'd gone onto a dating site.
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I'd been divorced for ten years.
My daughter was 17 years old.
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I was very successful in my career
at that point in time,
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so I was excited
about trying to get into the dating scene.
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I guess I was looking for a family man,
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attractive,
someone with a career that was successful,
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and when I saw Todd Dean's profile,
he checked off every single box.
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His pictures, he's skiing,
he's hiking, he's doing yoga.
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I mean, it was kind of like, "Wow.
He's got it all. He's got everything."
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I googled him,
and there were a couple YouTube videos
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where he was holding a speaking engagement
about his mental health facility.
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My name is Todd Dean. I'm the CEO
and founder of Sanjara Wellness.
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[Jill] He looked to be very successful
and happy what he was doing.
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Helping others with their mental health.
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And I was like,
"Wow, that's pretty impressive." You know?
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[melancholy music plays]
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[Jill] After we met, he immediately
gave me his cell phone number.
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[cell phone chimes]
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He wanted to meet pretty quickly.
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[cell phone chimes]
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[Jill] So our first date,
we decided on a lunch.
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[quirky music plays]
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[Jill] I was excited,
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deciding what I was gonna wear.
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I had on a red sweater
and camouflage pants and boots.
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We met at the restaurant. I walked in.
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He had on a camouflage vest,
cowboy boots as well.
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We… We looked great together.
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We had a wonderful lunch.
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I felt, like, just an instant connection.
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[soft music plays]
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[Jill] While we were talking,
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he mentioned if I would ride out with him
to see his wellness facility.
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Once we toured the facility,
he planted a kiss on me.
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[chuckles]
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Oh my gosh, I was on cloud nine.
I mean, grinning from ear to ear.
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[interviewer] Did you feel
like a teenager?
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Yeah! I felt like a teenager.
Of course I did. [chuckles]
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I mean, everything was fresh and new.
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He was everything and more
that I could have expected.
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I mean, really,
it was almost too good to be true.
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[music fades]
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[car beeps]
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[doorbell chimes]
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[dog barks]
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Oh, they have a guard dog.
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-Hello!
-[Cecilie] Hi! Oh my God, he is so cute!
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-So nice to meet you.
-[Cecilie] Can I give you a hug?
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Oh, so nice to meet you too.
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[Jill] That is Ollie.
Would you like something to drink?
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-Water, yeah. It's hot outside.
-Yes, it is so hot. [laughs]
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Thank you for reaching out.
How are you feeling?
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-I'm a little nervous, a little.
-Yeah.
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-I get it.
-Yeah.
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Yeah. It's not an easy thing.
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So, yeah.
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What first attracted you to Todd?
How was he as a person?
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-He was so charismatic.
-Yeah.
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I mean, he stole the show
when he walked into or out of the room.
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He's 6'4",
and then his personality is just…
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-Is… is taller than he is.
-Yeah.
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So attractive.
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Do you have any pictures of you guys?
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-[Jill] Yeah, this was our first date.
-[Cecilie] Very pretty couple.
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-And these are some videos.
-Oh.
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-He sent to you?
-Yeah.
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[Todd] I miss hearing from you.
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I want one of my sweet messages.
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I just wish I was with you
or you were with me.
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That's what I wish.
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How was it in between the days?
Was it a lot of texting and messaging?
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-Like…
-Constant.
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As soon as we started communicating,
it was constant selfies,
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constant video messages.
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He was sending at least ten selfies a day,
maybe sometimes more than that.
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You are hilarious.
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[Jill] "Good morning."
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Well, good morning.
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[Jill] You know, "I'm drinking coffee."
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Thank you, my friend.
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[Jill] Goodnight text.
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Hey, are you okay?
Maybe you went to bed early.
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[Jill] I was excited.
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That I was getting those messages
all throughout the day.
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What do you mean, no more selfies?
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That'd be like
the sun's not coming up tomorrow.
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[Jill] They made me feel good.
I was thinking about him all the time.
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It'd been a long time
since I'd felt that way.
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[music fades]
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-This is called love bombing.
-Right.
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They shower you with love and affection
to draw you in and make you feel special.
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I didn't know about it either.
I just loved love, you know?
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-Yeah, right.
-I didn't see it like that.
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Yeah. That's exactly what he did.
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-So you went on a second date?
-Yeah.
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[curious music plays]
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[Jill] For the second date,
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he decided that he was gonna take me
to get my nails done.
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What girls don't wanna be pampered?
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-[Todd] Have you had that color before?
-No.
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[Jill] He suggested the green color.
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Not anything I would have ever
gotten put on my nails, ever.
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-[Todd] You like that color?
-I love it. I absolutely love it.
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But he wanted to spend time with me.
He wanted to do things with me and for me.
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That made me happy.
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Early on, he gave me a key
to his condo in downtown Nashville.
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The condo matched
Todd's personality to a T.
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It was flashy.
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During the week, I stayed at his condo,
even if he wasn't there.
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Essentially, kind of like
we were "playing house," almost.
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I was walking on clouds, literally.
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It was definitely moving into
what I thought was a relationship.
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I was having a blast because he was fun.
He was so much fun to be around.
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That's the way it was in the beginning.
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Romance fraud comes in many forms,
but there is a playbook.
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Fraudsters, they will mirror you.
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They pretend
to be the perfect human for you.
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They prey on what all of us want in life,
and that is love.
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[melancholy music plays]
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[Jill] I do remember
we were playing music,
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and he was talking more about himself
and about his childhood,
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kind of giving me
a little bit more insight to who he was.
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It really did feel good
because I felt like he was, you know,
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bringing me
into a part of his world, right?
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Even though I was a little nervous,
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I opened myself up
a little bit to him about my mother.
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She had committed suicide in 2016.
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And I've struggled with depression
and mental health for years.
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I'd been to a trauma facility,
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so I still had some traumas
that I hadn't finished working through.
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I felt like he could relate.
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It felt amazing
because now I'm starting to have feelings.
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I'd only known him
for a short amount of time,
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but I was all in.
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[music fades]
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So when did he ask you
for money for the first time?
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-And how did that request come about?
-You know…
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I mean, a month and a half
into the relationship,
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he needed $1,000.
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[soft music plays]
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[Jill] Todd was telling me that
he needed money for operating expenses
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for his wellness facility, Sanjara.
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This was gonna be
a high-end wellness retreat.
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He's got top-notch doctors.
He's got a top-notch team.
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Sanjara would be able
to heal any type of issues,
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whether that ranged
from addiction to trauma.
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I did wonder why someone
with this $1.8 million property
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would even need to ask me for money.
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He told me that it's a startup,
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and he just needs this help
for finishing Sanjara.
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And being that mental health
has always been an area close to my heart,
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it was just something
that I really wanted to help with.
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In the very beginning,
he gave me that money back
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pretty quickly, plus another 500.
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Like, "Thank you.
Here's a little extra for you."
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You know, like, he's just being
this upstanding, great guy.
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But as I got more into the relationship,
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he really didn't talk about anything else
except for getting money in the door.
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[tense music plays]
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[Cecilie] Sometimes a fraudster will ask
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for smaller amounts at the start
and then pay them back.
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It's just such a smart and simple way
to win the trust of their victims.
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But after a while,
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they will just ask for bigger sums,
and it will kind of never stop.
237
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All I can think about is money right now.
238
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[cell phone chimes]
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[Jill] He would just keep asking,
and I would keep giving.
240
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I was not concerned about him
not paying me back. I really wasn't.
241
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He would always say he had money
coming in within a week or two weeks.
242
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It absolutely felt like
we were building something together.
243
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You know, I thought
there was a bigger picture here.
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Ultimately, this will open
and help other people,
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and maybe I can be a part of it.
246
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And then once I was in so deep,
I really didn't know how to get out of it.
247
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[foreboding music plays]
248
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[music fades]
249
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-I gave him all of the money that I had.
-Wow.
250
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He said, you know,
"Make sure you don't tell anyone."
251
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[sighs] So I was dealing with
this internally,
252
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and I didn't have anyone
to talk to about it.
253
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-It was just complete anxiety.
-Yeah.
254
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That is the same methods
255
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in abusive relationships
you find in romance fraud…
256
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-…'cause they are taking advantage of you.
-Yeah.
257
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Did you go to the police?
258
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-I contacted the police.
-Yeah?
259
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But at that time,
they just said, this is a civil matter.
260
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This needs to be in civil court.
They wouldn't give me a case number.
261
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What do you want to do about this?
262
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It would really mean a lot if you could
help me get the police involved.
263
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We need to gather
as much evidence as we can.
264
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-Yeah.
-To build the strongest case possible.
265
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I mean, I've tried so many other things.
This is the… This is the last thing.
266
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-So let's make it big.
-Yeah.
267
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[tense music plays]
268
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-[Jill] I'll see you soon. Yes.
-[Cecilie] For real. We'll start to work.
269
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It's tough for her, you know?
And she's been so strong. So, yeah.
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Oh, emotional. [laughs nervously]
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It's heavy. It's kind of heavy for me.
272
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It's just so eerily similar
to my own story.
273
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I just know exactly the pain
that she's sitting with.
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Back in 2018,
I met Simon Leviev on Tinder.
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He was funny, charming, and handsome.
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He told me that he was the CEO
of a big diamond company.
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And his life was just extraordinary.
278
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He was flying private jets.
He was wearing designer clothes.
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And he was incredibly successful.
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He just seemed like my perfect match.
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But everything was a lie.
Just to take my money.
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The man that I loved was never real.
283
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When it happened to me,
I was incredibly alone.
284
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And I don't want anyone else
to feel that way.
285
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[tense music continues]
286
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And I hope that we can help Jill
and give her some answers.
287
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[intriguing music plays]
288
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[keyboard clicks]
289
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[cell phone vibrates]
290
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[chimes]
291
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[keypad clicking]
292
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[cell phone chimes]
293
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[music intensifies]
294
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[Brianne] People think
I'm Magnum P.I. or somebody.
295
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Riding around in a Ferrari,
solving crimes left and right.
296
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But a private investigator
is someone who uncovers the truth.
297
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Who reveals the deceit.
298
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Prosecuting love fraudsters
is very difficult to do.
299
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Police see it as relationship issues
that need to be resolved in civil court.
300
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In order to build a case, I need to know
what was the story they told you
301
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that made you give them the money.
302
00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,873
And was that story
based on fact or fiction?
303
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It's not easy.
304
00:17:24,084 --> 00:17:29,548
But the first phase relies on
getting eyes on the perpetrator.
305
00:17:29,631 --> 00:17:33,260
To find out
if they are who they say they are.
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[on phone] Hi, it's Michael.
307
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Hey, Mike, it's Bri.
308
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-Hey, how are you doing?
-I'm good.
309
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Look, I need your help with a surveillance
case. Are you available?
310
00:17:49,193 --> 00:17:50,611
-Yeah.
-Awesome.
311
00:17:50,694 --> 00:17:53,363
So, problem is
we have to find this guy first. [laughs]
312
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We don't know where he is.
So you got something to write with?
313
00:17:56,325 --> 00:17:57,785
-I'm ready.
-All right. Perfect.
314
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So his name is Todd Dean.
315
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[curious music plays]
316
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[Cecilie] Let's get going.
We have work to do.
317
00:18:07,586 --> 00:18:10,339
[Brianne] Let's see
what we can find on this guy.
318
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[Cecilie] He has a LinkedIn.
319
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I'll find his Facebook page.
320
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When I get a new case in,
my primary goal is discovery.
321
00:18:20,516 --> 00:18:23,769
On LinkedIn he has
over, like, 500-plus connections.
322
00:18:24,478 --> 00:18:28,732
[Brianne] I wanna know
everything I possibly can about a suspect.
323
00:18:28,816 --> 00:18:30,526
What's their online presence?
324
00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:34,113
Who are their contacts?
Who are their associates?
325
00:18:34,863 --> 00:18:38,158
He has his position
like CEO and founder of Sanjara Wellness.
326
00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:39,409
The charismatic leader
327
00:18:39,493 --> 00:18:42,079
with a tremendous network of friends
and business associates.
328
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"A proven visionary and leader."
329
00:18:44,164 --> 00:18:46,542
-He sounds like a big shot.
-Yeah.
330
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[Cecilie] He looks legit, but is he?
331
00:18:49,878 --> 00:18:51,880
[Brianne] Oh look, we have videos of him.
332
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[Todd] People today are struggling,
with their issues, with their families,
333
00:18:55,634 --> 00:18:59,471
with their jobs, with addictions,
with mental health, with stress.
334
00:18:59,555 --> 00:19:05,727
And they're looking for a place
of peace and solutions and results.
335
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,897
Sanjara Experience represents that.
336
00:19:13,277 --> 00:19:14,778
I'm Dr. Jeffrey Fan.
337
00:19:14,862 --> 00:19:17,781
This has been
one of the most amazing experiences.
338
00:19:17,865 --> 00:19:21,034
Eastern philosophies,
some new ways of handling folks,
339
00:19:21,118 --> 00:19:22,703
helping them live their best lives.
340
00:19:22,786 --> 00:19:26,915
The world needs a place like Sanjara.
It will be unlike anything else.
341
00:19:27,499 --> 00:19:30,961
Creating an environment and the curricula.
342
00:19:31,545 --> 00:19:34,381
People's lives are gonna be changed
being a part of it,
343
00:19:34,464 --> 00:19:36,091
so can't wait to be a part.
344
00:19:36,175 --> 00:19:37,259
[Cecilie] Wow.
345
00:19:37,342 --> 00:19:41,471
So many professionals
and doctors and psychologists.
346
00:19:41,555 --> 00:19:45,976
All of these really big people that
are giving these amazing testimonials.
347
00:19:46,059 --> 00:19:46,977
Yeah.
348
00:19:47,060 --> 00:19:51,148
I think for sure we need to talk to some
of these people, figure out who they are.
349
00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:53,400
[line ringing]
350
00:19:53,483 --> 00:19:55,235
Hi, my name is Brianne.
351
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I'm a private investigator,
and I'm investigating Todd Dean.
352
00:19:58,697 --> 00:20:02,659
I am doing an investigation
into Todd Dean and Sanjara Wellness.
353
00:20:02,743 --> 00:20:06,079
I got your name
from a promotional video that I watched,
354
00:20:06,163 --> 00:20:09,374
and I wanted to ask you
a few questions about Sanjara.
355
00:20:09,458 --> 00:20:11,418
[male] Sorry, I think you have
the wrong number.
356
00:20:12,002 --> 00:20:13,921
[Brianne] Give me a call back, please.
357
00:20:14,004 --> 00:20:14,963
Another no hit.
358
00:20:15,797 --> 00:20:17,507
[Cecilie] No one is answering.
359
00:20:17,591 --> 00:20:19,426
-[Brianne] No?
-[Cecilie] It just drops.
360
00:20:20,677 --> 00:20:22,304
[line ringing]
361
00:20:30,187 --> 00:20:32,481
Hi, Josh. My name is Brianne.
362
00:20:32,564 --> 00:20:37,152
I'm a private investigator,
and I'm investigating Todd Dean.
363
00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:41,281
I think your company
created the video for Sanjara?
364
00:20:41,365 --> 00:20:43,492
[Josh] Yeah, I shot that back in 2021.
365
00:20:44,159 --> 00:20:45,577
[Brianne] Okay, perfect.
366
00:20:46,078 --> 00:20:49,998
[Josh] The video was really supposed to be
for investors, for funding.
367
00:20:50,999 --> 00:20:53,835
He was, like, more of the CEO type of guy.
368
00:20:53,919 --> 00:20:56,546
He brought the people
to try to make it work.
369
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:59,633
The professionals,
did they appear really genuine?
370
00:20:59,716 --> 00:21:01,301
[Josh] For the most part, yeah.
371
00:21:01,385 --> 00:21:04,596
Um, they really talked
about their fields of study
372
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,432
and how they would want
to utilize it in Sanjara.
373
00:21:07,516 --> 00:21:10,936
A lot of them, I guess, were just trying
to see how this would work out.
374
00:21:11,019 --> 00:21:14,189
[Brianne] What was your opinion
of Todd Dean when you first met him?
375
00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:15,691
[Josh] He was different.
376
00:21:17,567 --> 00:21:21,738
He was charming, and he was pretty flirty
with quite a few women there.
377
00:21:22,614 --> 00:21:27,494
To be honest, the whole thing was weird.
Like, it really did feel kind of cultish.
378
00:21:28,495 --> 00:21:32,332
Okay, one last question.
How did you get involved in this project?
379
00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:35,085
[Josh] Through Sheena.
She is Todd's assistant.
380
00:21:36,003 --> 00:21:38,630
She reached out to me.
She, like, ran the show.
381
00:21:38,714 --> 00:21:40,632
[Brianne] Okay.
What was Sheena's last name?
382
00:21:40,716 --> 00:21:44,386
-[Josh] I can't think of it right now.
-You can't remember her last name? Okay.
383
00:21:44,469 --> 00:21:46,305
[Josh] I haven't talked to her since.
384
00:21:47,347 --> 00:21:49,558
Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
385
00:21:49,641 --> 00:21:50,809
Bye.
386
00:21:50,892 --> 00:21:51,893
Finally.
387
00:21:51,977 --> 00:21:54,813
Yes. Finally, somebody's willing to talk.
388
00:21:54,896 --> 00:21:56,273
We need to find Sheena.
389
00:21:56,356 --> 00:21:59,192
She's definitely someone
that we wanna talk to.
390
00:21:59,276 --> 00:22:00,694
[intriguing music plays]
391
00:22:00,777 --> 00:22:01,737
[chimes]
392
00:22:04,573 --> 00:22:05,407
[chimes]
393
00:22:09,703 --> 00:22:14,082
[Cecilie] Straight ahead.
Then to the left here.
394
00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:17,919
So, our local P.I., Michael,
has a lead on Todd.
395
00:22:19,713 --> 00:22:23,050
The thing about these leads is that
we have to act on them really quickly
396
00:22:23,133 --> 00:22:25,886
because one minute they're here
and the next minute they're gone.
397
00:22:30,098 --> 00:22:32,309
-[Brianne] Hey, Michael.
-How you doing?
398
00:22:32,392 --> 00:22:35,312
-So, have you found our guy yet?
-We're working on it.
399
00:22:35,395 --> 00:22:38,023
Yeah, there's a couple different things.
Here's his residence.
400
00:22:38,106 --> 00:22:40,192
-[Brianne] It's an apartment complex?
-[Michael] Yeah.
401
00:22:40,275 --> 00:22:42,027
Everyone's saying he lives there.
402
00:22:42,110 --> 00:22:44,488
So, I've watched this residence a lot,
403
00:22:44,571 --> 00:22:47,741
and I have never once seen him
come out of it, driving or walking.
404
00:22:47,824 --> 00:22:49,618
I think, he's underground right now.
405
00:22:49,701 --> 00:22:52,120
-He's avoiding as many people as possible.
-[Brianne] Okay.
406
00:22:52,204 --> 00:22:55,791
[Michael] This picture where
he takes his hat off looks a lot like him,
407
00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:58,085
but just not 100% yet.
408
00:22:58,168 --> 00:23:00,212
So, we're still ironing it out.
409
00:23:00,295 --> 00:23:03,632
It's that we've seen him both,
you know, bald, hair…
410
00:23:03,715 --> 00:23:04,966
-[Brianne] Yeah.
-With a goatee.
411
00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:07,177
I feel like sometimes
he can be a chameleon almost.
412
00:23:07,260 --> 00:23:09,429
-[Michael] And he mixes it up.
-[Cecilie] Yeah.
413
00:23:09,513 --> 00:23:11,807
So, where's our best opportunity
to catch this guy?
414
00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:14,393
[Michael] So, I would say
we need to focus on his poker playing.
415
00:23:14,476 --> 00:23:16,353
We know that he likes to play poker,
416
00:23:16,436 --> 00:23:18,814
but we haven't seen him
at many of the poker locations yet,
417
00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:20,273
so we keep making the rounds.
418
00:23:20,941 --> 00:23:23,819
But we have a tip
that he may be there tonight.
419
00:23:24,361 --> 00:23:28,323
[Brianne] I think it'll be worthwhile
for us to set up some surveillance on him.
420
00:23:28,407 --> 00:23:30,617
All right. Thank you so much.
See you soon, okay?
421
00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:32,702
[tense music plays]
422
00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:36,998
So, we're on this for 4.6 miles.
423
00:23:37,082 --> 00:23:38,458
-[Brianne] Okay.
-[Cecilie] Yeah.
424
00:23:41,044 --> 00:23:45,090
-Like kind of to the right. Sorry.
-Continue where? To the right? Okay.
425
00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:48,343
[Brianne] It's important
to get eyes on a perpetrator
426
00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:51,179
because you want to establish
a pattern of behavior.
427
00:23:51,263 --> 00:23:52,931
[Cecilie] Okay, here.
428
00:23:53,014 --> 00:23:56,184
The intention is to get into their world.
429
00:23:59,187 --> 00:24:01,773
Is that him? There? Brianne?
430
00:24:02,691 --> 00:24:03,567
Do you see?
431
00:24:03,650 --> 00:24:06,278
-[Brianne] That's not it. Not it.
-[Cecilie] Not him.
432
00:24:07,028 --> 00:24:10,699
You have to be careful
because you wanna be discreet,
433
00:24:10,782 --> 00:24:13,076
and you don't want your cover blown.
434
00:24:13,660 --> 00:24:14,744
Maybe. [gasps]
435
00:24:15,745 --> 00:24:17,122
Doesn't look the build.
436
00:24:18,707 --> 00:24:21,668
-No.
-No, they're passing up the Acura.
437
00:24:26,965 --> 00:24:28,925
[Brianne] Oh, look at that man.
He's looking at us.
438
00:24:29,676 --> 00:24:31,636
-Who? Who?
-[Brianne] That guy. Well, maybe not.
439
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,638
He's curious. He's definitely curious.
440
00:24:36,933 --> 00:24:38,018
Okay. [clears throat]
441
00:24:39,978 --> 00:24:40,979
Is that Todd?
442
00:24:42,814 --> 00:24:43,899
[Brianne] That's him.
443
00:24:45,066 --> 00:24:47,486
-[Cecilie] It's him.
-[Brianne] Oh my God. Let's follow him.
444
00:24:47,569 --> 00:24:49,571
[dramatic music plays]
445
00:24:53,825 --> 00:24:56,286
-[Brianne] Keep your eyes on him.
-[Cecilie] Yeah, he's going.
446
00:24:56,369 --> 00:24:58,538
Right, right, right
447
00:24:58,622 --> 00:24:59,581
and right again.
448
00:25:00,081 --> 00:25:00,957
-Yeah?
-Yep.
449
00:25:06,546 --> 00:25:09,007
[Cecilie] There's the car
directly in front of us now.
450
00:25:10,133 --> 00:25:11,718
He's driving fast.
451
00:25:11,801 --> 00:25:14,596
-[Brianne] He's two cars in front of you.
-[Cecilie] Yeah.
452
00:25:14,679 --> 00:25:18,350
-[Brianne] He is way too far ahead up now.
-[Cecilie] Yeah.
453
00:25:18,433 --> 00:25:20,393
[Brianne] You can see his right mirror.
454
00:25:20,477 --> 00:25:21,811
-See his mirror?
-[Cecilie] Yeah.
455
00:25:21,895 --> 00:25:24,606
-Keep your eye on a piece of his car.
-[Cecilie] Okay.
456
00:25:24,689 --> 00:25:28,109
[Brianne] Keep your eye on that.
We got a visual again, so it's good.
457
00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:30,320
[Cecilie gasps] He's taking off.
458
00:25:30,403 --> 00:25:32,906
-[Brianne] Scottsville, Franklin exit.
-[Cecilie] Yeah.
459
00:25:35,242 --> 00:25:37,869
It just looks a lot more countryside.
460
00:25:38,912 --> 00:25:41,665
[Brianne] Keep your eyes on him
'cause I'm losing a blind spot.
461
00:25:47,462 --> 00:25:49,464
[music fades]
462
00:25:50,048 --> 00:25:52,509
[Brianne] I don't have a visual
of him at all. Do you?
463
00:25:52,592 --> 00:25:54,594
[Cecilie] Yeah, we lost sight of him now.
464
00:25:59,975 --> 00:26:01,268
Oh. [gasps]
465
00:26:06,064 --> 00:26:07,649
[Brianne] What's the numbers on there?
466
00:26:10,735 --> 00:26:11,861
[Cecilie] Yeah, that's him.
467
00:26:12,362 --> 00:26:14,489
-[Brianne] Okay, look at that.
-[Cecilie] It's Sanjara.
468
00:26:15,115 --> 00:26:16,074
It's Sanjara.
469
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:18,952
[soft music plays]
470
00:26:23,957 --> 00:26:26,251
[Jill] We would go to Sanjara
several times a week
471
00:26:26,876 --> 00:26:31,089
because I would help him mow
and do yard work.
472
00:26:32,382 --> 00:26:34,384
We were getting along wonderfully,
473
00:26:35,635 --> 00:26:40,765
but then…
he completely ended the relationship.
474
00:26:40,849 --> 00:26:42,809
[somber music plays]
475
00:26:43,310 --> 00:26:44,978
[Jill] I mean, I was heartbroken.
476
00:26:46,021 --> 00:26:47,772
I just wasn't expecting it.
477
00:26:51,026 --> 00:26:53,570
I felt like it was the end
478
00:26:53,653 --> 00:26:57,907
until he started texting me again
saying, "Come back."
479
00:26:59,492 --> 00:27:01,828
I'm thinking, well,
maybe he's changed his mind.
480
00:27:03,330 --> 00:27:05,790
He just started
the relationship right back up.
481
00:27:06,416 --> 00:27:07,667
Everything was the same.
482
00:27:08,418 --> 00:27:12,088
Except now I felt like
I was walking on eggshells,
483
00:27:12,172 --> 00:27:14,966
feeling very insecure
and not good about myself.
484
00:27:16,926 --> 00:27:18,803
[Cecilie] They reel you in
with love and attention.
485
00:27:18,887 --> 00:27:21,640
Once you're hooked,
they will unexpectedly pull away.
486
00:27:21,723 --> 00:27:24,059
Suddenly you're the one
chasing their love and affection,
487
00:27:24,142 --> 00:27:26,186
and that's the power shift that they want.
488
00:27:26,269 --> 00:27:28,104
You're not thinking straight.
489
00:27:28,188 --> 00:27:30,190
That's when they can get
even more money from you.
490
00:27:30,273 --> 00:27:31,900
[foreboding music plays]
491
00:27:31,983 --> 00:27:34,069
He wasn't physically abusing me,
492
00:27:34,152 --> 00:27:37,572
but, I mean, there was
some sort of mental abuse going on.
493
00:27:39,282 --> 00:27:42,243
You know you're not acting yourself
with me this morning.
494
00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:43,953
Just saying, something's going on.
495
00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:50,293
I think that I was trying to hang on
to any thread of relationship
496
00:27:50,377 --> 00:27:51,711
that there could be there,
497
00:27:51,795 --> 00:27:54,297
which also essentially put me into,
498
00:27:54,381 --> 00:27:58,009
I think, anything that he would ask for,
I would do.
499
00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:01,930
Then, at one point,
500
00:28:02,013 --> 00:28:06,059
he was telling me that he needed money
for the mortgage of Sanjara Wellness.
501
00:28:06,142 --> 00:28:10,105
They increased the mortgage this month,
which I didn't realize, so it's, uh…
502
00:28:10,605 --> 00:28:13,650
The only thing that I could think of
at that time
503
00:28:13,733 --> 00:28:16,611
was taking money out of my retirement,
504
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:20,490
and I was able to get him $12,500.
505
00:28:22,409 --> 00:28:23,868
[music fades]
506
00:28:23,952 --> 00:28:25,412
His reaction was…
507
00:28:27,622 --> 00:28:32,127
You know, he was more so disappointed
that he would have liked to have had more.
508
00:28:32,752 --> 00:28:34,754
[gentle music plays]
509
00:28:36,423 --> 00:28:39,592
I had been dating Todd for almost a year,
510
00:28:39,676 --> 00:28:42,679
and he was getting pretty desperate
for money.
511
00:28:42,762 --> 00:28:44,723
You feel like sending me $25?
512
00:28:45,306 --> 00:28:49,644
But, at that point,
I gave him everything that I had.
513
00:28:50,937 --> 00:28:54,774
I needed to borrow money to pay
my mortgage because I'd given it to Todd.
514
00:28:54,858 --> 00:28:59,154
So he asked if there was any way
I could ask my daughter to give him money,
515
00:28:59,237 --> 00:29:00,905
and at that time she was 17.
516
00:29:04,534 --> 00:29:05,577
[sniffles]
517
00:29:07,162 --> 00:29:09,247
I told him no. [sobs]
518
00:29:09,831 --> 00:29:10,707
But…
519
00:29:11,958 --> 00:29:14,586
I didn't have control over it,
and I'm just thankful for that
520
00:29:15,253 --> 00:29:17,505
because I don't know
what I would have done
521
00:29:18,715 --> 00:29:20,550
if I would've been in control of it.
522
00:29:21,426 --> 00:29:22,844
And that scares me.
523
00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:29,434
It just shows to you
that he will take money from anyone.
524
00:29:31,561 --> 00:29:35,482
I realized, "Oh my gosh, I cannot believe
that I've fallen for this man."
525
00:29:36,649 --> 00:29:39,027
Finally, I got to a point
that enough was enough.
526
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:40,153
And I was done.
527
00:29:42,030 --> 00:29:46,284
That was the end of any type
of communication or relationship
528
00:29:46,367 --> 00:29:47,619
that I had with Todd.
529
00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:49,579
I was finished.
530
00:29:53,458 --> 00:29:55,460
[intriguing music plays]
531
00:29:58,338 --> 00:30:00,215
[Brianne] Now that we've got eyes on Todd,
532
00:30:00,298 --> 00:30:04,677
we need to see if there's anyone else
that could substantiate Jill's claims.
533
00:30:05,929 --> 00:30:07,305
According to Josh,
534
00:30:07,388 --> 00:30:10,266
the cameraman
for Sanjara's promotional video,
535
00:30:10,350 --> 00:30:12,143
there's a woman named Sheena.
536
00:30:12,227 --> 00:30:14,687
She's supposedly his "personal assistant."
537
00:30:14,771 --> 00:30:18,858
We need to find her.
She might have some inside information.
538
00:30:19,442 --> 00:30:20,902
-[Cecilie] Yeah.
-[Brianne] Yeah.
539
00:30:24,197 --> 00:30:25,949
[Brianne] Which one is our Sheena?
540
00:30:26,533 --> 00:30:29,369
Oh, you know, there's a million Sheenas.
Like, really?
541
00:30:29,452 --> 00:30:31,162
[Cecilie] Finding a needle in a haystack.
542
00:30:31,246 --> 00:30:32,872
-[Brianne] Absolutely.
-[Cecilie] Oh yeah.
543
00:30:39,295 --> 00:30:40,129
[phone dialling]
544
00:30:40,213 --> 00:30:42,090
[Brianne] The number is disconnected.
545
00:30:42,173 --> 00:30:43,591
The call failed.
546
00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:44,801
[phone dialling]
547
00:30:44,884 --> 00:30:46,511
[Brianne] Another no-answer.
548
00:30:48,888 --> 00:30:50,014
Oh, look, look, look.
549
00:30:51,391 --> 00:30:52,225
I found her.
550
00:30:53,393 --> 00:30:54,227
I got her.
551
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:57,480
Yes! Oh, it's absolutely her. Look.
552
00:30:58,398 --> 00:31:01,401
Look. "Executive assistant
at Sanjara Wellness."
553
00:31:01,484 --> 00:31:03,111
[Cecilie] Sanjara Wellness. Yes.
554
00:31:03,194 --> 00:31:05,405
[Brianne] And she's got pictures
at Sanjara.
555
00:31:05,488 --> 00:31:06,406
[Cecilie] Oh, yeah.
556
00:31:07,323 --> 00:31:09,492
[line ringing]
557
00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:11,953
[Brianne clears throat, hums]
558
00:31:13,580 --> 00:31:14,414
[woman] Hi.
559
00:31:14,998 --> 00:31:16,291
Hi, is this Sheena?
560
00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:18,710
[Sheena] It is.
561
00:31:18,793 --> 00:31:21,921
My name is Brianne.
Do you know a Todd Dean?
562
00:31:22,422 --> 00:31:23,548
[Sheena] I do, yeah.
563
00:31:25,884 --> 00:31:27,886
[soft music plays]
564
00:31:33,808 --> 00:31:36,936
Sheena is out of the country.
Good Lord, Sheena.
565
00:31:40,815 --> 00:31:43,568
Oh, looks like
we're approaching something.
566
00:31:43,651 --> 00:31:44,819
[knocks on door]
567
00:31:46,696 --> 00:31:47,989
-Hi. Yes.
-[Brianne] Sheena?
568
00:31:48,072 --> 00:31:50,533
-Hi, I'm Brianne. May I come in?
-It's Brianne?
569
00:31:50,617 --> 00:31:52,035
-Come on in.
-[Brianne] Thank you.
570
00:31:52,118 --> 00:31:54,787
-Oh, you've got a little baby.
-[Sheena] Yes. How are you?
571
00:31:54,871 --> 00:31:56,122
[Brianne] I'm doing well.
572
00:31:57,415 --> 00:31:59,167
Are these your kids as well?
573
00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:03,713
Yeah, so that's…
I have actually three girls and four boys.
574
00:32:03,796 --> 00:32:06,841
Look, I can only imagine
what breakfast looks like around here.
575
00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:09,427
I have two, so I know
my hands are always full with two.
576
00:32:09,510 --> 00:32:10,845
I can't imagine.
577
00:32:10,929 --> 00:32:14,766
Well, thank you again for, um, agreeing
to meet with me on such short notice.
578
00:32:14,849 --> 00:32:16,976
-I really appreciate that.
-My pleasure.
579
00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:18,853
I'm investigating Todd Dean.
580
00:32:18,937 --> 00:32:22,440
And just trying to find out
a little bit more information about him.
581
00:32:22,523 --> 00:32:24,859
-Yeah.
-And Sanjara in general.
582
00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:27,695
-Okay.
-Um… How do you know Todd?
583
00:32:27,779 --> 00:32:30,698
I just happened
to be scrolling on Facebook,
584
00:32:30,782 --> 00:32:34,285
and in one of the Nashville groups,
there was a post.
585
00:32:34,369 --> 00:32:36,913
It said,
"I need part-time office assistant."
586
00:32:36,996 --> 00:32:39,999
-[Brianne] Okay.
-And it happened to be Todd Dean.
587
00:32:40,083 --> 00:32:42,001
So I did a phone interview,
588
00:32:42,085 --> 00:32:45,922
and within a couple of hours,
he was like, "I wanna hire you."
589
00:32:46,005 --> 00:32:48,883
-[Brianne] Okay.
-And I was like, "Okay, perfect."
590
00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:51,719
Tell me, what exactly is Sanjara?
591
00:32:51,803 --> 00:32:55,139
What it is and what it's supposed to be
are two different things.
592
00:32:55,223 --> 00:32:59,519
-Okay.
-It was a wellness experience.
593
00:32:59,602 --> 00:33:04,190
It's where people would go
to kind of get their bearings back.
594
00:33:04,273 --> 00:33:09,112
But when we started talking about
the finances of Sanjara as a business,
595
00:33:09,195 --> 00:33:12,281
that's when I realized
it wasn't exactly what I thought it was.
596
00:33:12,365 --> 00:33:16,619
[inhales] I started questioning, like,
how were we gonna pay things
597
00:33:16,703 --> 00:33:18,830
and do things if there's no money?
598
00:33:18,913 --> 00:33:21,207
-Right.
-And so he started showing me…
599
00:33:21,290 --> 00:33:25,920
"Well, I just get money from investors."
It was like, "What are they investing in?"
600
00:33:26,004 --> 00:33:27,922
And he's like, "Sanjara."
601
00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:31,551
And I was like,
"So they're investing in an idea." And…
602
00:33:31,634 --> 00:33:33,761
Don't ever say that to him. He hates that.
603
00:33:33,845 --> 00:33:36,180
-Because to him, Sanjara is real.
-Yeah.
604
00:33:36,264 --> 00:33:39,183
-But it's never opened.
-Oh wow. Okay.
605
00:33:40,101 --> 00:33:42,478
-It seems like scamming is what it is.
-That is scamming.
606
00:33:42,562 --> 00:33:44,439
Especially with a business
that's not even open.
607
00:33:44,522 --> 00:33:46,941
-Where are you spending the money?
-Right.
608
00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:50,194
I did eventually gain access
to bank accounts and stuff like that,
609
00:33:50,278 --> 00:33:53,114
and I would question,
"Well, where is the money going?"
610
00:33:53,197 --> 00:33:57,368
-"We had $50,000 four days ago."
-Yeah.
611
00:33:57,452 --> 00:34:00,413
And now we're scrambling
because we have $500.
612
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:04,125
Yeah. And did you ever get any answers?
613
00:34:04,208 --> 00:34:05,668
We actually had disagreements
614
00:34:05,752 --> 00:34:10,757
about personal transactions
going through the business account.
615
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,217
Every penny of that investor money
616
00:34:13,301 --> 00:34:16,012
should be going
into rehabbing the building.
617
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:20,892
So, obviously,
he was getting money from investors.
618
00:34:20,975 --> 00:34:22,477
Quote, unquote, "Investors."
619
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,857
But what about personal loans
or donations from other people?
620
00:34:27,940 --> 00:34:30,526
Were there just girlfriends, maybe?
621
00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:33,571
Was he getting money
from people like that as well?
622
00:34:33,654 --> 00:34:34,530
Absolutely.
623
00:34:35,198 --> 00:34:37,116
Prior to me coming on board with him,
624
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,745
he had apparently borrowed
some money from mostly women.
625
00:34:40,828 --> 00:34:42,538
And they were private loans.
626
00:34:43,664 --> 00:34:46,125
-So there was, uh, Karen.
-Okay.
627
00:34:47,710 --> 00:34:51,881
And after I came on board with him,
we got Jill.
628
00:34:53,257 --> 00:34:55,593
There was several of them I know of.
629
00:34:56,177 --> 00:34:58,888
-Have you talked to any of these women?
-No.
630
00:34:59,847 --> 00:35:04,435
Do you recall, um, like, how much money
he was getting just out of these women?
631
00:35:05,186 --> 00:35:10,233
So, we were bringing in
anywhere from $50,000 to $100,000 a month.
632
00:35:10,316 --> 00:35:12,443
-Wow. And from investors?
-From investors.
633
00:35:12,527 --> 00:35:13,653
Okay.
634
00:35:14,237 --> 00:35:15,905
Do you have any, like, documents,
635
00:35:15,988 --> 00:35:19,992
or any kind of documentation of any
of these things regarding him financially?
636
00:35:20,076 --> 00:35:21,077
Yeah.
637
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:26,040
-And so these are the checking accounts.
-Okay.
638
00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:27,959
-Oh, okay.
-For the business.
639
00:35:28,042 --> 00:35:30,294
So this is one of our bridge loans.
640
00:35:30,378 --> 00:35:32,255
-It's a 50,000.
-Okay.
641
00:35:32,338 --> 00:35:39,220
And then we would just have all these,
like, $22, $10, $21, $50, $31.
642
00:35:39,303 --> 00:35:41,597
When he transfers them
to his personal account…
643
00:35:42,181 --> 00:35:45,309
Wow. So there are
several transactions like this?
644
00:35:45,393 --> 00:35:47,478
-Mm-hmm.
-[Brianne] Girl, this man…
645
00:35:47,562 --> 00:35:49,397
[Sheena] "ATM withdrawal, $1,000."
646
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,774
-Yeah, straight to his personal account.
-Yeah.
647
00:35:51,858 --> 00:35:54,569
They were investing
in the promise of helping other people
648
00:35:54,652 --> 00:35:56,028
with mental health wellness.
649
00:35:56,779 --> 00:35:59,282
He always preyed on the people that…
650
00:35:59,365 --> 00:36:00,783
-Were vulnerable.
-Yeah.
651
00:36:04,829 --> 00:36:08,166
[Sheena] It felt like he was
turning Sanjara into a hunting ground.
652
00:36:08,875 --> 00:36:11,878
So he could find
all of the vulnerable women
653
00:36:12,628 --> 00:36:14,630
because that's what he was looking for.
654
00:36:19,844 --> 00:36:23,306
[line ringing]
655
00:36:24,473 --> 00:36:25,641
[Cecilie] Hello?
656
00:36:25,725 --> 00:36:29,020
Cecilie, we have the smoking gun.
657
00:36:29,979 --> 00:36:33,482
Sheena thinks Sanjara is a scam.
658
00:36:36,110 --> 00:36:41,490
She thinks that he used Sanjara
to take advantage of vulnerable women.
659
00:36:41,574 --> 00:36:45,453
-To manipulate them and take their money.
-That's disgusting.
660
00:36:46,287 --> 00:36:50,374
We have bank statements
that could potentially show
661
00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:55,254
that the money that he received
from Sanjara went straight to his pockets.
662
00:36:55,338 --> 00:36:57,423
I'm very fucking angry.
663
00:36:57,924 --> 00:37:01,093
[Brianne] Sheena mentioned
someone named Karen from Idaho.
664
00:37:01,177 --> 00:37:02,929
She may be another victim.
665
00:37:03,012 --> 00:37:05,640
I have her details.
I need you to go talk to her.
666
00:37:06,349 --> 00:37:08,726
[Cecilie] I think this is what is needed.
667
00:37:09,518 --> 00:37:11,520
[dramatic music plays]
668
00:37:16,108 --> 00:37:16,943
[Cecilie] Hi!
669
00:37:17,026 --> 00:37:20,404
-Hi. Cecilie, hi! I'm Karen.
-Karen. So nice to meet you.
670
00:37:20,488 --> 00:37:23,658
-Can I give you a hug?
-Yes, come on in. I'm holding the door.
671
00:37:23,741 --> 00:37:27,078
-What a place. Yeah.
-Make yourself comfortable. Thank you.
672
00:37:27,161 --> 00:37:28,621
-Here you go.
-Thank you.
673
00:37:28,704 --> 00:37:33,751
So, if you can just take me back then.
I just know that you knew Todd.
674
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:38,005
When I met him,
it was years before Sanjara.
675
00:37:38,881 --> 00:37:43,219
I was in Sun Valley skiing,
and he jumped on the lift with me.
676
00:37:44,220 --> 00:37:45,513
We chatted.
677
00:37:45,596 --> 00:37:49,809
He asked where I was from
and what did I do and was I married.
678
00:37:49,892 --> 00:37:51,727
And he seemed nice enough.
679
00:37:51,811 --> 00:37:57,191
So we finished skiing,
and we walked into the lodge and, um.
680
00:37:57,275 --> 00:38:01,320
Right away it seemed like he knew people.
People were drawn to him.
681
00:38:01,404 --> 00:38:04,824
Yeah. What is it about him?
Kind of like you were just…
682
00:38:04,907 --> 00:38:11,122
He was really charming,
and there's a… a charisma there.
683
00:38:12,373 --> 00:38:16,043
He told me that he was from Seattle
and he was an entrepreneur.
684
00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:19,630
He said that he had a house
in Sun Valley right on the river
685
00:38:19,714 --> 00:38:21,590
but he also had his condo in Seattle.
686
00:38:22,842 --> 00:38:26,429
I lived in Sun Valley for a long time
as a second home.
687
00:38:26,512 --> 00:38:29,265
So I knew that was not the kind of place
you would hang out
688
00:38:29,348 --> 00:38:30,641
if you didn't have any money.
689
00:38:30,725 --> 00:38:34,687
-Yeah.
-He seemed to be a successful businessman.
690
00:38:34,770 --> 00:38:39,233
He said he was working on
all these different investment projects.
691
00:38:39,859 --> 00:38:44,697
And that seemed pretty exciting to me.
And so, the first time it was like…
692
00:38:45,364 --> 00:38:46,824
Hey, do you wanna…
693
00:38:46,907 --> 00:38:49,118
-Maybe you wanna get in on this.
-Hmm.
694
00:38:49,201 --> 00:38:51,746
Like, maybe--
Like he was doing me a favor.
695
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:55,875
-Like, this is not open to everybody but…
-Wow, that's interesting. That is.
696
00:38:55,958 --> 00:38:59,962
"If you want, I could probably get you in
for maybe, like, $5,000."
697
00:39:00,046 --> 00:39:02,423
-I was like, "Okay, I could do that."
-Mm.
698
00:39:02,506 --> 00:39:05,468
-There were a couple of those projects.
-Okay.
699
00:39:05,551 --> 00:39:07,511
That were really small startups that--
700
00:39:07,595 --> 00:39:10,014
I mean, he wasn't asking me for $100,000.
701
00:39:10,097 --> 00:39:11,640
But they were all little ones.
702
00:39:12,391 --> 00:39:13,809
And they started adding up.
703
00:39:13,893 --> 00:39:16,562
There was a point
that I started feeling like,
704
00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:22,693
"This is… doesn't smell right to me."
And I started keeping track of everything.
705
00:39:23,277 --> 00:39:24,570
All of a sudden,
706
00:39:24,653 --> 00:39:27,782
you know, all the red flags
that I had pushed down into the sand,
707
00:39:27,865 --> 00:39:30,368
I looked back and all I saw was red.
708
00:39:30,451 --> 00:39:35,122
That was when I knew
I had in fact been scammed.
709
00:39:35,206 --> 00:39:37,208
[curious music plays]
710
00:39:38,209 --> 00:39:41,796
[Karen] For some reason,
he agreed to sign this document
711
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:46,175
that admits and acknowledges
that he owes me the money.
712
00:39:46,926 --> 00:39:51,639
Here, there it is. $24,920.
713
00:39:52,348 --> 00:39:56,352
What I think is that he agreed to sign it
714
00:39:56,435 --> 00:39:59,772
because he felt
it would make him look legit.
715
00:40:00,523 --> 00:40:03,901
He did pay a few times. Then he defaulted.
716
00:40:03,984 --> 00:40:07,154
I said to my lawyer, "What do I do?"
He said, "You can either let it go,
717
00:40:07,238 --> 00:40:09,573
or you can now
file the default judgment."
718
00:40:09,657 --> 00:40:11,784
"Then that's a permanent court record."
719
00:40:12,868 --> 00:40:16,997
As soon as that judgment was filed,
that was when I started getting contacted
720
00:40:17,081 --> 00:40:18,791
by people who were searching him
721
00:40:18,874 --> 00:40:22,420
to see if he was legit,
and that's how it really started.
722
00:40:22,503 --> 00:40:24,922
How many victims are there in this?
723
00:40:25,005 --> 00:40:25,840
There's so many.
724
00:40:27,425 --> 00:40:30,511
What I would love from you,
if you would be willing,
725
00:40:30,594 --> 00:40:33,264
is to give a statement
about your experience.
726
00:40:33,347 --> 00:40:35,516
And put me in touch with the other women.
727
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:36,559
Of course.
728
00:40:37,059 --> 00:40:38,936
[tense music plays]
729
00:40:42,898 --> 00:40:43,816
[chimes]
730
00:40:45,693 --> 00:40:46,694
[chimes]
731
00:40:49,155 --> 00:40:53,659
[Brianne] The police historically
don't take these cases seriously.
732
00:40:53,742 --> 00:40:56,036
So it's on us to make it airtight.
733
00:40:58,914 --> 00:41:02,168
Our challenge is to prove
that they're not alone
734
00:41:02,918 --> 00:41:05,963
in what they're accusing this person of.
735
00:41:09,258 --> 00:41:13,137
If we can corroborate their stories
and show a clear pattern of behavior,
736
00:41:13,220 --> 00:41:15,639
that'll help us prove
that Todd is a fraudster.
737
00:41:15,723 --> 00:41:16,557
Hi.
738
00:41:17,141 --> 00:41:18,976
Hi, there you are.
739
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,436
-Hi.
-My God.
740
00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:23,522
-Hi, wonderful to meet you.
-You too.
741
00:41:23,606 --> 00:41:27,026
We're doing now
an investigation into Todd Dean.
742
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:29,653
He makes himself look real good, right?
743
00:41:30,237 --> 00:41:35,910
Oh, CEO of Sanjara.
Charming, handsome, very professional.
744
00:41:35,993 --> 00:41:41,207
He started sending me texts
every single day, multiple times a day.
745
00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:45,920
He flatters you to death,
makes you feel like a million dollars.
746
00:41:46,003 --> 00:41:48,964
"You are so, so beautiful.
You are so, so pretty."
747
00:41:49,048 --> 00:41:55,513
He preys on women who are newly
out of a really tough breakup or divorce.
748
00:41:55,596 --> 00:41:58,432
I had just gotten out of a divorce.
749
00:41:58,516 --> 00:42:03,062
I was in the process
of ending a very toxic relationship.
750
00:42:03,646 --> 00:42:07,358
He'll ask you those questions
about mental health and trauma
751
00:42:07,441 --> 00:42:09,777
to really bring down your guard,
752
00:42:09,860 --> 00:42:12,738
um, and make you
even more vulnerable to him, right?
753
00:42:12,821 --> 00:42:15,616
He didn't want me to think for myself.
754
00:42:15,699 --> 00:42:18,827
It was more like, I want to control you.
755
00:42:18,911 --> 00:42:22,706
Then he built his trust by grooming them,
and then he asked for the money.
756
00:42:23,874 --> 00:42:28,963
He called me up, like, in desperation,
saying that he needed money.
757
00:42:29,046 --> 00:42:31,632
It was only going to be for like 48 hours.
758
00:42:31,715 --> 00:42:35,386
He texted me in the morning.
I thought, "Oh great, a text from Todd."
759
00:42:35,469 --> 00:42:39,181
Instead it was a request for $10,000.
760
00:42:39,265 --> 00:42:43,310
I wired him $10,000 with the understanding
that he would pay it back.
761
00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:45,062
within 48 hours.
762
00:42:45,646 --> 00:42:48,816
Never once did he even try to pay me back.
763
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,737
Would you be willing to give a statement
on your experience with him?
764
00:42:53,821 --> 00:42:57,074
Yeah, there's no accountability
that's been placed on him yet.
765
00:42:57,157 --> 00:42:58,951
[Theresa] 100%, yes.
766
00:42:59,034 --> 00:43:02,329
If he is not stopped
767
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,207
by the police, by the judicial system,
768
00:43:05,874 --> 00:43:07,418
he will continue this.
769
00:43:07,501 --> 00:43:11,046
[Brianne] This is serious stuff.
He's done this with so many women.
770
00:43:11,130 --> 00:43:13,549
It's clearly his MO.
This is how he operates.
771
00:43:15,301 --> 00:43:19,430
He needs to be stopped. Like, he can't
keep getting away with this.
772
00:43:21,056 --> 00:43:24,435
[Brianne] Criminals think, "I got away
with it once. I'll do it again."
773
00:43:25,102 --> 00:43:26,854
And they feel untouchable.
774
00:43:27,646 --> 00:43:31,692
So what's helpful in cases like this
is establishing whether or not
775
00:43:31,775 --> 00:43:34,653
the perpetrator is currently engaging
776
00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:38,032
in criminal activity
and defrauding someone.
777
00:43:38,115 --> 00:43:42,870
Because if they are,
the police are more likely to act quickly.
778
00:43:42,953 --> 00:43:45,956
This could really help
make or break a case.
779
00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:49,710
[tense music plays]
780
00:43:49,793 --> 00:43:50,669
[chimes]
781
00:43:54,089 --> 00:43:54,923
[chimes]
782
00:44:08,812 --> 00:44:10,773
[Brianne] That's his vehicle
right there. Right?
783
00:44:10,856 --> 00:44:12,066
[Cecilie] Can you park there?
784
00:44:12,733 --> 00:44:14,443
Can you put the camera down?
785
00:44:16,236 --> 00:44:17,071
[chimes]
786
00:44:19,448 --> 00:44:20,282
[chimes]
787
00:44:22,201 --> 00:44:23,035
[chimes]
788
00:44:23,619 --> 00:44:24,453
[chimes]
789
00:44:28,874 --> 00:44:30,542
[Jill] Now the mask is off,
790
00:44:30,626 --> 00:44:32,836
and now I can see him
for what he really is.
791
00:44:33,671 --> 00:44:36,173
He's good at identifying his victims.
792
00:44:36,256 --> 00:44:40,511
He knows how to work a room.
He's very good at the lies that he tells.
793
00:44:41,178 --> 00:44:43,889
-[Cecilie] If he has someone with him.
-[Brianne] Oh.
794
00:44:43,972 --> 00:44:45,224
-Wow.
-[chimes]
795
00:44:45,974 --> 00:44:49,228
He understood
that a lot of women were fragile.
796
00:44:49,311 --> 00:44:52,606
A lot of women did struggle
with self-esteem and self-confidence.
797
00:44:53,399 --> 00:44:56,485
I started realizing
that this was what he did for a living.
798
00:44:56,568 --> 00:44:57,903
And he was a predator.
799
00:44:57,986 --> 00:44:59,405
[music fades]
800
00:44:59,488 --> 00:45:01,740
[dramatic music plays]
801
00:45:01,824 --> 00:45:02,658
[chimes]
802
00:45:06,036 --> 00:45:08,539
[Jill] It's sickening
that he continues to do this
803
00:45:08,622 --> 00:45:10,457
and is allowed to get away with it.
804
00:45:11,041 --> 00:45:14,211
He's a monster. You know, who's next?
805
00:45:15,087 --> 00:45:16,171
[chimes]
806
00:45:16,255 --> 00:45:17,172
[Cecilie] Game is over.
807
00:45:18,048 --> 00:45:18,882
[chimes]
808
00:45:19,717 --> 00:45:20,551
[chimes]
809
00:45:21,051 --> 00:45:22,636
He's heading towards the door.
810
00:45:23,137 --> 00:45:25,389
He's walking out with someone.
811
00:45:28,892 --> 00:45:30,894
[music intensifies]
812
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,482
[intriguing music plays]
813
00:45:52,916 --> 00:45:54,918
[music intensifies]
814
00:46:05,262 --> 00:46:06,513
[music fades]
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