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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,525 --> 00:00:10,245 I have no sympathy for Ken Rex. 2 00:00:10,355 --> 00:00:12,665 He scared this poor community half to death. 3 00:00:12,771 --> 00:00:16,531 During that time, to protect myself and my family, 4 00:00:16,637 --> 00:00:18,257 I carried a gun. 5 00:00:19,709 --> 00:00:22,059 So he brought out the worst in me. 6 00:00:27,061 --> 00:00:29,751 No one talked, everyone stuck together. 7 00:00:29,857 --> 00:00:35,237 That's what small towns do. They just band together. 8 00:00:35,345 --> 00:00:36,895 They planned that murder. 9 00:00:37,002 --> 00:00:38,802 They had a town meeting, they all sat down together, 10 00:00:38,900 --> 00:00:41,490 they decided that they were gonna do it, and they done it. 11 00:00:42,525 --> 00:00:45,485 It was my estimation that we did not have 12 00:00:45,597 --> 00:00:47,627 sufficient evidence to go to trial. 13 00:00:47,737 --> 00:00:50,427 After he decided not to press charges, 14 00:00:50,533 --> 00:00:52,163 pretty much everybody 15 00:00:52,259 --> 00:00:54,739 in Skidmore thought it's finally over. 16 00:00:54,847 --> 00:00:56,847 This is a town full of vigilantes. 17 00:00:56,953 --> 00:01:00,233 Everybody else suffers, but they all carry on. 18 00:01:00,336 --> 00:01:02,406 Aren't you now concerned that 19 00:01:02,510 --> 00:01:04,060 now that he's gone, 20 00:01:04,167 --> 00:01:07,267 this town has a dirty little secret, 21 00:01:07,377 --> 00:01:09,307 and that, in it's own way, 22 00:01:09,414 --> 00:01:12,424 will have as bad an effect on the town as McElroy did? 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,280 The people who were involved in this 24 00:01:14,384 --> 00:01:16,014 and the people who covered it up 25 00:01:16,110 --> 00:01:19,080 think they may have been doing a good thing for the community. 26 00:01:19,182 --> 00:01:21,742 They didn't realize that their children 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,770 are going to be negatively effected by this. 28 00:01:23,876 --> 00:01:27,326 I think I counted nine mysterious deaths 29 00:01:27,432 --> 00:01:29,502 since Ken Rex died. 30 00:01:29,606 --> 00:01:31,466 It perpetuates itself. 31 00:01:31,574 --> 00:01:35,204 When's the next type of situation gonna occur 32 00:01:35,302 --> 00:01:37,822 when the community turns on an individual? 33 00:02:54,864 --> 00:02:56,594 - Rolling. - All right, here we go. 34 00:02:56,693 --> 00:02:58,523 I'll wait for the car to go by. 35 00:03:01,457 --> 00:03:03,457 - Hair looks OK? - Ah, yeah. 36 00:03:03,562 --> 00:03:07,432 OK, here we go. Three, two and one... 37 00:03:14,987 --> 00:03:17,337 It's one of America's most puzzling murders 38 00:03:17,438 --> 00:03:19,438 and it happened 20 years ago today. 39 00:03:19,544 --> 00:03:22,624 Hi, I'm NBC 8's Jim Reich. I'm in Skidmore, Missouri. 40 00:03:22,719 --> 00:03:25,139 It's where they killed the town bully 41 00:03:25,239 --> 00:03:27,549 right in front of this bar. 42 00:03:27,655 --> 00:03:29,545 All right, so we're rolling. 43 00:03:29,657 --> 00:03:33,347 - Ah, first of all, thanks for taking your time. -Sure. 44 00:03:33,454 --> 00:03:35,594 And, uh, this is weird, isn't it? 45 00:03:35,698 --> 00:03:38,698 I mean, the way I see it, and especially goin' over there, 46 00:03:38,804 --> 00:03:40,324 I mean, you can see all the books 47 00:03:40,427 --> 00:03:42,807 and all the movies, but this is pretty weird. 48 00:03:42,912 --> 00:03:44,472 It's an unusual case 49 00:03:44,569 --> 00:03:47,919 and it's gotten lots of attention in 20 years. 50 00:03:48,020 --> 00:03:50,780 I thought, for all intents and purposes, 51 00:03:50,885 --> 00:03:52,295 it was over. 52 00:03:52,404 --> 00:03:55,174 They shot Ken Rex, he's dead. 53 00:03:55,269 --> 00:03:59,139 It's pretty clear nobody's gonna be apprehended for that crime. 54 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:00,689 People get away with crimes all the time. 55 00:04:00,792 --> 00:04:02,732 I mean, we would like to say that's not true, 56 00:04:02,828 --> 00:04:05,488 some of them get more attention and some of them get less, 57 00:04:05,590 --> 00:04:08,630 but we have murders and other crimes 58 00:04:08,731 --> 00:04:11,871 that occur all the time, for which there is no prosecution. 59 00:04:11,975 --> 00:04:13,765 Unfortunately, in the United States, 60 00:04:13,874 --> 00:04:15,574 we have cases like that all the time, 61 00:04:15,669 --> 00:04:18,529 we have cases in this office like that all the time. 62 00:04:25,817 --> 00:04:29,607 Skidmore was trying to move past it... 63 00:04:32,755 --> 00:04:35,855 but it seems like every anniversary, 64 00:04:35,965 --> 00:04:39,235 there'll be journalists who'll come into town 65 00:04:39,348 --> 00:04:41,588 dredging all this stuff up again. 66 00:04:41,695 --> 00:04:43,515 This town is so small. 67 00:04:43,628 --> 00:04:46,488 You know, there's that phrase, "small town gossip". 68 00:04:46,596 --> 00:04:49,876 During the past 20 years, uh, any validity to that? 69 00:04:49,979 --> 00:04:52,569 Well, I'm sure there's been a few discussions, 70 00:04:52,671 --> 00:04:55,051 but for the most part, people never talk about it. 71 00:04:55,156 --> 00:04:58,506 The newspaper people and TV people, you can say, 72 00:04:58,608 --> 00:05:00,778 "I don't want to talk to you, go away and leave me alone." 73 00:05:00,886 --> 00:05:02,816 Him, you couldn't do that to. 74 00:05:02,923 --> 00:05:04,993 So yeah, we had put up with all those, 75 00:05:05,097 --> 00:05:07,787 but we didn't have to put up with him. 76 00:05:07,893 --> 00:05:09,793 I think they'd been victimized by McElroy 77 00:05:09,895 --> 00:05:12,895 for such a long time, then you had a lot of outsiders 78 00:05:13,002 --> 00:05:15,692 trying to find out what happened. 79 00:05:15,798 --> 00:05:17,588 You know, it was a bonding thing. 80 00:05:17,696 --> 00:05:19,346 It's us against them now. 81 00:05:19,457 --> 00:05:21,357 It used to be us against him. 82 00:05:21,459 --> 00:05:24,429 And now it's us against everybody else. 83 00:05:26,084 --> 00:05:28,604 McElroy's wife, Trena, has remarried, 84 00:05:28,707 --> 00:05:30,737 and is living somewhere in the Ozarks, 85 00:05:30,847 --> 00:05:34,197 still fearful of setting foot in Skidmore. 86 00:05:34,299 --> 00:05:36,579 See, the only thing I ever get out of this, 87 00:05:36,681 --> 00:05:38,441 is a do get some free publicity. 88 00:05:38,545 --> 00:05:42,615 I've gotten a lot of business through McElroy. 89 00:05:42,721 --> 00:05:45,831 I've had a lot of people that have hired me to represent 'em. 90 00:05:45,931 --> 00:05:47,621 I thought it would die down-- 91 00:05:47,726 --> 00:05:49,486 about a year, year and a half, 92 00:05:49,590 --> 00:05:51,520 I wouldn't hear anymore about it. 93 00:05:51,627 --> 00:05:54,387 Every year, it gets bigger and bigger. 94 00:05:56,563 --> 00:05:59,673 I know, all the people here, they want to forgotten, 95 00:05:59,773 --> 00:06:03,573 put it behind them, because it wasn't a good time 96 00:06:03,673 --> 00:06:06,093 for Skidmore and their citizens. 97 00:06:09,196 --> 00:06:11,576 The shooting-- the McElroy shooting-- 98 00:06:11,681 --> 00:06:15,061 definitely shriveled the town up. 99 00:06:15,167 --> 00:06:18,687 It just sucked it right up. 100 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,070 People stayed in their houses. 101 00:06:22,174 --> 00:06:24,734 People who socialized prior to that, 102 00:06:24,832 --> 00:06:26,632 stopped socializing. 103 00:06:26,731 --> 00:06:30,361 And that really was the bad thing 104 00:06:30,459 --> 00:06:32,219 in the long run. 105 00:06:32,322 --> 00:06:36,022 It just was so terrible, 106 00:06:36,119 --> 00:06:38,089 it ruined the town. 107 00:06:39,606 --> 00:06:42,256 And it was a shame. You know, it's a shame. 108 00:06:42,367 --> 00:06:46,437 There are people who couldn't wait to get out, 109 00:06:46,544 --> 00:06:48,134 people left town. 110 00:06:53,516 --> 00:06:55,756 The next thing you know, the bank closes, 111 00:06:55,863 --> 00:06:58,073 the grocery store goes out of business, 112 00:06:58,176 --> 00:07:00,826 and the town just starts to dry up 113 00:07:00,937 --> 00:07:04,037 and evaporate from the face of the earth. 114 00:07:04,147 --> 00:07:07,357 This is where the old schoolhouse used to sit. 115 00:07:07,461 --> 00:07:10,571 But it's gone now. Everything's gone. 116 00:07:13,156 --> 00:07:15,916 I don't think Skidmore would've come down like that 117 00:07:16,021 --> 00:07:18,471 if it hadn't been for that killing. 118 00:07:20,025 --> 00:07:23,055 Since Ken's death, we've had a lot of tragedies 119 00:07:23,166 --> 00:07:27,996 in the town that is unusual for a rural American town. 120 00:07:30,070 --> 00:07:35,250 We're talking murders, suicides, deaths. 121 00:07:35,351 --> 00:07:38,221 Here's a crime that hasn't been solved for decades. 122 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:41,739 No resolution, no closure. 123 00:07:43,083 --> 00:07:46,643 So how do you cope with that? 124 00:07:46,742 --> 00:07:49,752 It's there, it's constant, 125 00:07:49,848 --> 00:07:53,708 it's part of your fabric of life. 126 00:07:53,818 --> 00:07:57,368 Does that compel more violent acts to occur? 127 00:07:57,477 --> 00:07:59,577 Maybe it does. 128 00:08:03,103 --> 00:08:05,693 On my first visit to Skidmore, 129 00:08:05,795 --> 00:08:08,515 I was confronted with the trauma 130 00:08:08,626 --> 00:08:12,006 of the murder of Ken Rex McElroy immediately. 131 00:08:12,112 --> 00:08:14,772 I went in there to buy lunch 132 00:08:14,873 --> 00:08:16,843 and I was greeted by a waitress who told me 133 00:08:16,944 --> 00:08:20,194 that I wasn't welcome there and I would not get any service there. 134 00:08:21,328 --> 00:08:23,678 From there, I went up to a convenience store, 135 00:08:23,779 --> 00:08:25,849 and as I got to the door, 136 00:08:25,953 --> 00:08:28,653 there was a man with his arms folded and said, 137 00:08:28,749 --> 00:08:30,269 "No, you can't come in here." 138 00:08:31,821 --> 00:08:35,621 Skidmore tends to view any outsiders 139 00:08:35,722 --> 00:08:37,032 as someone coming in 140 00:08:37,137 --> 00:08:40,307 to make an attack on their town. 141 00:08:40,416 --> 00:08:43,866 But I did talk to one woman who said to me, 142 00:08:43,971 --> 00:08:49,181 "Go ahead and write about McElroy and his murder, 143 00:08:49,287 --> 00:08:51,497 but while you do that, 144 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,290 look at the whole picture." 145 00:08:54,395 --> 00:08:57,255 The thing that really got to me 146 00:08:57,364 --> 00:09:01,234 was the current crimes. 147 00:09:01,333 --> 00:09:03,893 There was something wrong here. 148 00:09:03,991 --> 00:09:07,691 That's the inexplicable thing about it. 149 00:09:07,788 --> 00:09:10,198 If Ken Rex was such a problem, 150 00:09:10,308 --> 00:09:14,758 then why didn't the town live happily ever after? 151 00:09:14,864 --> 00:09:18,324 Why didn't the violence end with his death? 152 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,010 Because it hasn't ended. 153 00:09:22,113 --> 00:09:26,883 Horror and mayhem have visited that town 154 00:09:26,980 --> 00:09:29,220 over and over and over again. 155 00:09:43,755 --> 00:09:46,275 Skidmore wasn't on the map for anything 156 00:09:46,378 --> 00:09:48,828 until Ken Rex McElroy. 157 00:09:50,313 --> 00:09:52,453 And now, any little bitty thing that happens, 158 00:09:52,557 --> 00:09:54,897 okay, it's Ken Rex McElroy and then this happens; 159 00:09:55,008 --> 00:09:58,528 it's Ken Rex McElroy then this and this and this has happened. 160 00:09:58,632 --> 00:10:02,192 But I think the outside community that looks in on Skidmore, 161 00:10:02,291 --> 00:10:05,741 they would want you to think that, "Oh, Skidmore's this really bad place." 162 00:10:05,846 --> 00:10:07,086 Well, it's not. 163 00:10:07,192 --> 00:10:09,332 There's a few people that's made it look bad. 164 00:10:11,024 --> 00:10:12,754 My name is Ben Espey. 165 00:10:12,853 --> 00:10:16,313 I was the Nodaway County Sheriff for 16 years. 166 00:10:17,582 --> 00:10:20,972 Back in the time Ken Rex McElroy was operating, 167 00:10:21,068 --> 00:10:23,308 I had a different occupation. 168 00:10:24,658 --> 00:10:26,758 I grew up on a farm. 169 00:10:26,867 --> 00:10:28,587 Then when farming got really tough 170 00:10:28,697 --> 00:10:30,317 in the early '80's around here, 171 00:10:30,422 --> 00:10:33,912 I went to the Nodaway County Sheriff's Department. 172 00:10:34,012 --> 00:10:36,012 People will tell you this and it's true. 173 00:10:36,118 --> 00:10:38,878 If you get law enforcement in your blood, 174 00:10:38,983 --> 00:10:40,403 you can't get it out. 175 00:10:42,987 --> 00:10:46,127 In the time that I was the sheriff, 176 00:10:46,231 --> 00:10:50,721 methamphetamine was beginning to become pretty popular. 177 00:10:52,168 --> 00:10:53,378 Back then, 178 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,380 prosecuting attorney was David Baird. 179 00:10:55,482 --> 00:10:58,552 He was prosecuting attorney for years and years 180 00:10:58,658 --> 00:11:00,068 in Nodaway County. 181 00:11:00,176 --> 00:11:02,796 Took a lot of cases in front of him. 182 00:11:04,008 --> 00:11:07,288 In the early 2000's, methamphetamine was 183 00:11:07,390 --> 00:11:09,950 by far the big issue. 184 00:11:11,015 --> 00:11:12,635 The recipe's not that hard. 185 00:11:12,741 --> 00:11:15,991 We arrested a guy who was walking around Walmart 186 00:11:16,089 --> 00:11:18,849 with his shopping list he'd downloaded off the Internet 187 00:11:18,954 --> 00:11:20,784 of what he needed to make meth. 188 00:11:24,545 --> 00:11:27,475 On October 16th, the year 2000, 189 00:11:27,583 --> 00:11:29,313 we got a call at the sheriff's department 190 00:11:29,412 --> 00:11:32,592 that there was a female layin' in the backyard 191 00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:34,112 that was non-responsive. 192 00:11:39,112 --> 00:11:41,772 I, myself, went and when we got there, 193 00:11:41,873 --> 00:11:44,153 there was a young female layin' in the grass 194 00:11:44,255 --> 00:11:46,355 on the backside of the house. 195 00:11:48,397 --> 00:11:52,157 It looked like she was just beaten to death. 196 00:11:52,263 --> 00:11:54,093 There was no... 197 00:11:54,196 --> 00:11:56,576 life left in this girl. 198 00:11:56,681 --> 00:12:00,581 Wendy Gillenwater left this house on 406 Elm 199 00:12:00,685 --> 00:12:02,375 for the last time Monday. 200 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,380 The house remains quiet now, as the sheriff continues 201 00:12:05,483 --> 00:12:07,003 its investigation. 202 00:12:07,105 --> 00:12:10,105 Because no one knows exactly what happened inside this house, 203 00:12:10,212 --> 00:12:12,182 friends and family are just going to have to wait 204 00:12:12,283 --> 00:12:14,423 to see what the autopsy will bring them. 205 00:12:18,151 --> 00:12:21,951 Wendy Gillenwater was a small town girl in Skidmore 206 00:12:22,051 --> 00:12:23,951 who grew up in the shadow 207 00:12:24,053 --> 00:12:26,473 of the murder of Ken McElroy. 208 00:12:26,573 --> 00:12:29,303 She was the next generation, 209 00:12:29,403 --> 00:12:34,103 and so was her husband, Greg Dragoo. 210 00:12:35,927 --> 00:12:38,267 I really didn't know much about the girl, 211 00:12:38,378 --> 00:12:41,998 just knew that she was involved with wild parties, 212 00:12:42,106 --> 00:12:44,796 and involved with drugs, heavy. 213 00:12:45,868 --> 00:12:49,908 And that's about all I knew about her. 214 00:12:50,010 --> 00:12:54,050 She was living about six blocks from me. 215 00:12:54,152 --> 00:12:57,362 And, of course, everybody lives six blocks from me 216 00:12:57,466 --> 00:12:59,016 in this town. 217 00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:01,399 She was killed four houses down. 218 00:13:01,504 --> 00:13:03,064 Domestic. 219 00:13:03,161 --> 00:13:05,541 We had police and ambulance come in, 220 00:13:05,646 --> 00:13:09,266 and I heard that this young lady Wendy 221 00:13:09,374 --> 00:13:10,724 had been killed. 222 00:13:10,824 --> 00:13:12,624 And I'm going, "What is going on here?" 223 00:13:12,722 --> 00:13:15,422 And it turns out it was the man 224 00:13:15,518 --> 00:13:18,038 that was living with her. 225 00:13:21,939 --> 00:13:25,939 He'd been abusing her for a long time. 226 00:13:26,046 --> 00:13:28,456 You live with an abusive man long enough, 227 00:13:28,566 --> 00:13:30,146 he will kill ya. 228 00:13:31,258 --> 00:13:34,878 Greg brutalized her for years. 229 00:13:34,986 --> 00:13:36,676 From early in their marriage, 230 00:13:36,781 --> 00:13:39,581 she was beaten up by him regularly. 231 00:13:41,165 --> 00:13:43,475 On the final day of her life, 232 00:13:43,581 --> 00:13:45,581 he started beating her 233 00:13:45,686 --> 00:13:48,336 and he just wouldn't stop. 234 00:13:50,001 --> 00:13:54,901 A story I heard was it was methamphetamine rage. 235 00:13:55,869 --> 00:13:57,249 He was high to the point, 236 00:13:57,353 --> 00:13:59,563 he didn't just beat her up, 237 00:13:59,666 --> 00:14:01,246 he pulverized her. 238 00:14:02,462 --> 00:14:04,712 He broke eight ribs in one side 239 00:14:04,809 --> 00:14:06,469 and six ribs in the other. 240 00:14:06,569 --> 00:14:09,609 There were lacerations all over her face, 241 00:14:09,710 --> 00:14:11,400 all over her arms. 242 00:14:11,505 --> 00:14:13,955 He was merciless. 243 00:14:15,682 --> 00:14:17,752 There was some mad blood there, over something-- 244 00:14:17,857 --> 00:14:20,167 And I don't remember what it was, but... 245 00:14:21,446 --> 00:14:24,446 He beat her to death with a flashlight. 246 00:14:25,312 --> 00:14:26,662 He dragged her body 247 00:14:26,762 --> 00:14:28,702 out of the house, down the stairs, 248 00:14:28,798 --> 00:14:30,938 threw her in the yard, 249 00:14:31,042 --> 00:14:35,632 and he saw a neighbor next door, looking on. 250 00:14:36,945 --> 00:14:39,115 That didn't stop him. 251 00:14:41,742 --> 00:14:43,992 Nobody would stop 252 00:14:44,090 --> 00:14:45,780 and help Wendy Gillenwater 253 00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:49,715 when she was laying, bleeding in her front yard. 254 00:14:51,028 --> 00:14:54,688 That shows that there's a lot of people in that town 255 00:14:54,790 --> 00:14:57,070 that don't care. 256 00:14:58,863 --> 00:15:03,073 When she was gasping for her last breath of air, 257 00:15:03,178 --> 00:15:05,108 he took a bottle of Dawn dishwater soap 258 00:15:05,214 --> 00:15:07,114 and poured it down her mouth. 259 00:15:08,942 --> 00:15:10,702 It was a horrific scene. 260 00:15:12,359 --> 00:15:13,909 A preliminary coroner's report said 261 00:15:14,016 --> 00:15:15,636 Gillenwater died of severe trauma 262 00:15:15,742 --> 00:15:16,952 to her chest and stomach. 263 00:15:17,054 --> 00:15:18,404 Been the coroner for four years, 264 00:15:18,503 --> 00:15:21,643 and we haven't dealt with one of these before. 265 00:15:21,748 --> 00:15:23,298 As a policeman, 266 00:15:23,405 --> 00:15:26,615 we've had some experience in this. 267 00:15:28,617 --> 00:15:31,307 No. 268 00:15:31,413 --> 00:15:35,733 Wendy's mother was only able to identify her daughter 269 00:15:35,831 --> 00:15:37,321 by the rings on her hand. 270 00:15:37,419 --> 00:15:38,729 Dragoo's grandmother says 271 00:15:38,834 --> 00:15:40,704 that seeing Gillenwater in the hospital 272 00:15:40,801 --> 00:15:42,461 gave her nightmares. 273 00:15:42,562 --> 00:15:45,222 The Skidmore residents don't want to talk about it, 274 00:15:45,323 --> 00:15:46,983 and neither does the sheriff, 275 00:15:47,084 --> 00:15:50,194 who points all inquires to the prosecutor. 276 00:15:50,294 --> 00:15:52,544 We've got to figure out what the cause of death is, 277 00:15:52,641 --> 00:15:55,471 and then you must be able to link that cause of death 278 00:15:55,575 --> 00:15:59,225 to the actions of a particular individual. 279 00:16:00,304 --> 00:16:02,344 All I know is, 280 00:16:02,444 --> 00:16:05,244 he got life in prison over that. 281 00:16:09,623 --> 00:16:13,873 For years, Greg was beating her. 282 00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:17,323 People had to know about it that lived nearby. 283 00:16:18,494 --> 00:16:20,364 In a small town like this, 284 00:16:20,462 --> 00:16:24,092 everybody knows everybody's business. 285 00:16:24,190 --> 00:16:27,090 Why didn't someone raise a red flag 286 00:16:27,193 --> 00:16:28,753 and say, "This isn't right, 287 00:16:28,849 --> 00:16:32,719 something's wrong here," but nobody did. 288 00:16:33,647 --> 00:16:37,577 The silence was literally deadly. 289 00:16:56,636 --> 00:16:59,286 There's no reason to move to Skidmore. 290 00:17:02,642 --> 00:17:05,852 If my family didn't have a farm in Skidmore, 291 00:17:05,955 --> 00:17:08,125 I would never go there again. 292 00:17:14,412 --> 00:17:16,042 My name is Martin Edward Small. 293 00:17:16,138 --> 00:17:18,618 I am the oldest kid 294 00:17:18,727 --> 00:17:20,137 in the Festival family. 295 00:17:20,246 --> 00:17:23,006 I'm an Eagle Scout, and I'm in my 19th year 296 00:17:23,111 --> 00:17:24,531 in the United States Army. 297 00:17:26,183 --> 00:17:27,673 My son Marty, 298 00:17:27,770 --> 00:17:30,670 he's a captain and a paratrooper, 299 00:17:30,773 --> 00:17:35,263 served in Iraq with Special Forces, twice. 300 00:17:36,331 --> 00:17:40,541 My son was raised on three points. 301 00:17:40,645 --> 00:17:42,475 Know your enemy, 302 00:17:42,578 --> 00:17:44,678 never leave an enemy alive, 303 00:17:44,787 --> 00:17:47,477 the guy with the most bullets wins. 304 00:17:48,515 --> 00:17:50,165 My son happens to be a specialist 305 00:17:50,276 --> 00:17:51,726 with a knife though, 306 00:17:51,829 --> 00:17:53,239 because I am. 307 00:17:53,348 --> 00:17:56,418 So he was taught how to kill with a knife 308 00:17:56,523 --> 00:17:59,113 long before he was taught how to shoot. 309 00:18:03,289 --> 00:18:05,219 You can't-- No you can't wander around, Dad. 310 00:18:05,325 --> 00:18:06,945 - That's in the shot. - Oh, I see. 311 00:18:07,051 --> 00:18:09,671 And if you're in the bedroom, you can't have the TV up. 312 00:18:09,778 --> 00:18:12,398 OK. Phew. 313 00:18:14,541 --> 00:18:16,411 There's only certain things 314 00:18:16,509 --> 00:18:18,789 that can be solved only within the legal system. 315 00:18:18,890 --> 00:18:21,410 And if that works, that's great. 316 00:18:21,514 --> 00:18:24,724 But sometimes violence is the only option. 317 00:18:24,827 --> 00:18:28,207 Ken Rex McElroy was a problem in the '80's. 318 00:18:28,314 --> 00:18:31,974 And I was a kid growin' up there. 319 00:18:32,076 --> 00:18:34,456 The next major violent time 320 00:18:34,561 --> 00:18:38,261 was when the Wendy situation happened. 321 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,979 Wendy Gillenwater was two years ahead of me in high school, 322 00:18:43,087 --> 00:18:46,567 and she was another one of those great examples of, 323 00:18:46,677 --> 00:18:48,127 you know, you get out of school, 324 00:18:48,230 --> 00:18:49,710 you find a guy local, 325 00:18:49,818 --> 00:18:51,198 and you never leave. 326 00:18:51,302 --> 00:18:53,552 That happens a lot-- 327 00:18:53,649 --> 00:18:56,649 in which, in turn, resulted in her death. 328 00:18:58,516 --> 00:19:00,446 And that's really sad. 329 00:19:05,420 --> 00:19:08,220 And then soon after that, 330 00:19:08,319 --> 00:19:09,869 Branson disappeared. 331 00:19:13,048 --> 00:19:14,808 Folks here in Skidmore have lived 332 00:19:14,912 --> 00:19:16,982 with a big question on their minds. 333 00:19:17,086 --> 00:19:19,566 What happened to one of their own? 334 00:19:19,675 --> 00:19:22,845 Branson Perry said he was going to put away jumper cables, 335 00:19:22,954 --> 00:19:24,754 he hasn't been seen since. 336 00:19:24,853 --> 00:19:26,583 Perry, who was 20, 337 00:19:26,682 --> 00:19:29,102 vanished from outside his home. 338 00:19:29,202 --> 00:19:31,692 Signs across the area are getting the message out 339 00:19:31,791 --> 00:19:34,351 about this missing man, but still, there have been 340 00:19:34,449 --> 00:19:37,249 no signs of Branson himself. 341 00:19:39,557 --> 00:19:41,937 Branson is my stepson. 342 00:19:44,079 --> 00:19:45,809 My name is James Klino. 343 00:19:45,908 --> 00:19:50,468 I was married to Becky Perry, which is Branson's mother. 344 00:19:50,568 --> 00:19:52,918 I believe it happened on a Thursday. 345 00:19:58,507 --> 00:20:00,607 Branson's father was in the hospital, 346 00:20:00,716 --> 00:20:02,096 and he was getting the house clean 347 00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:03,961 for his dad to come home. 348 00:20:08,103 --> 00:20:10,933 He was also working on getting his father's car running 349 00:20:11,037 --> 00:20:12,657 so he could pick him up. 350 00:20:19,114 --> 00:20:22,124 Gina was the girl that happened to be in the house 351 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:23,641 trying to help him out 352 00:20:23,739 --> 00:20:25,709 to get ready for his dad to come home. 353 00:20:27,674 --> 00:20:29,924 While they're cleaning up the house, 354 00:20:30,021 --> 00:20:32,651 Branson went into one of the kitchen cabinets 355 00:20:32,748 --> 00:20:36,408 and starts rooting around and he came out with something, 356 00:20:36,511 --> 00:20:39,961 and went outside and then came right back in again. 357 00:20:40,066 --> 00:20:41,646 And Gina said, "What were you doing?" 358 00:20:41,757 --> 00:20:43,757 He said, "Oh, nothing. Don't worry about it." 359 00:20:46,452 --> 00:20:50,252 He went to go to the shed to return some jumper cables... 360 00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:55,772 and at that point, was not seen from thereafter. 361 00:21:08,128 --> 00:21:10,718 Everything just seemed like 362 00:21:10,821 --> 00:21:14,311 it was a normal day in Skidmore, Missouri. 363 00:21:16,067 --> 00:21:18,687 It took awhile for everyone to realize 364 00:21:18,794 --> 00:21:21,424 that something was going on here. 365 00:21:25,905 --> 00:21:28,175 Jo Ann Stinnett went to check on her grandson 366 00:21:28,287 --> 00:21:30,737 at this house, where he lived with his dad. 367 00:21:30,841 --> 00:21:33,361 Stinnett says the stereo was blaring 368 00:21:33,464 --> 00:21:34,954 and the furnace blasting. 369 00:21:35,052 --> 00:21:37,402 The 20-year-old Branson Perry was gone. 370 00:21:37,503 --> 00:21:40,133 They found no blood, no weapons, 371 00:21:40,229 --> 00:21:41,439 nothing missing. 372 00:21:41,541 --> 00:21:43,541 He didn't take a thing with him. 373 00:21:44,682 --> 00:21:45,992 By Saturday, 374 00:21:46,097 --> 00:21:48,027 they still hadn't heard from Branson. 375 00:21:48,134 --> 00:21:50,244 One of Becky's biggest frustrations 376 00:21:50,343 --> 00:21:51,693 was the fact that the police 377 00:21:51,793 --> 00:21:53,483 did not jump onto the investigation 378 00:21:53,588 --> 00:21:55,658 as soon as they should have. 379 00:21:55,762 --> 00:21:58,832 They should've jumped on it when it was first reported. 380 00:21:59,525 --> 00:22:01,005 Early on, 381 00:22:01,112 --> 00:22:02,632 I don't think anybody 382 00:22:02,735 --> 00:22:04,115 suspected foul play. 383 00:22:05,358 --> 00:22:07,328 The police said, "He's probably just out 384 00:22:07,429 --> 00:22:09,539 sowing his oats. He'll be back." 385 00:22:09,638 --> 00:22:10,978 And that upset her pretty much. 386 00:22:11,088 --> 00:22:14,258 She goes, "He's not that kind of a boy 387 00:22:14,367 --> 00:22:16,057 that would just do that." 388 00:22:22,858 --> 00:22:25,998 The first question everyone wants to know is, 389 00:22:26,103 --> 00:22:27,973 did he run away? 390 00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:32,010 Well, when Sheriff Espey explored that possibility, 391 00:22:32,109 --> 00:22:36,459 he found Branson's van, his wallet, 392 00:22:36,562 --> 00:22:38,632 all his personal possessions 393 00:22:38,736 --> 00:22:41,046 seemed to be there at the home. 394 00:22:43,189 --> 00:22:47,369 The thing that kind of strikes me about this case is 395 00:22:47,469 --> 00:22:51,339 that he just disappeared in thin air, 396 00:22:51,439 --> 00:22:54,609 just taking some jumper cables out to a shed 397 00:22:54,718 --> 00:22:58,478 behind his house and was never seen again. 398 00:22:58,584 --> 00:23:00,934 The jumper cables were never returned 399 00:23:01,034 --> 00:23:03,174 to the shed until 400 00:23:03,278 --> 00:23:05,518 weeks after the fact. 401 00:23:06,695 --> 00:23:09,555 All of a sudden, the jumper cables showed up. 402 00:23:13,357 --> 00:23:15,117 Two weeks later, 403 00:23:15,221 --> 00:23:19,641 those jumper cables that Branson was taking out to the shed 404 00:23:19,743 --> 00:23:24,133 suddenly showed up in the shed right by the front door. 405 00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:27,300 It's like somebody's trying to cover something up, 406 00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:28,646 cover their own tracks. 407 00:23:28,752 --> 00:23:31,442 It was beginning to look like someone 408 00:23:31,548 --> 00:23:35,138 in Skidmore was responsible for whatever happened 409 00:23:35,241 --> 00:23:37,451 to Branson Perry. 410 00:23:38,624 --> 00:23:40,424 That is really strange. 411 00:23:40,522 --> 00:23:43,392 Bob, his dad, and his mother 412 00:23:43,491 --> 00:23:46,321 were good friends of ours. 413 00:23:46,425 --> 00:23:48,145 In this particular case, 414 00:23:48,254 --> 00:23:52,124 I think we had some strange people in town that day 415 00:23:52,223 --> 00:23:54,813 and nobody really knows much about it. 416 00:23:54,916 --> 00:23:58,636 But those signs have been up a long damn time. 417 00:24:00,473 --> 00:24:02,133 They tried everything they could 418 00:24:02,233 --> 00:24:04,753 to find what happened to the Perry boy. 419 00:24:04,857 --> 00:24:08,787 I don't know if this is true or not, 420 00:24:09,655 --> 00:24:11,135 but I was told 421 00:24:11,242 --> 00:24:15,072 some man did it and he fed him to the hogs. 422 00:24:15,177 --> 00:24:18,627 He was out in his yard and he just up and disappeared. 423 00:24:18,733 --> 00:24:20,743 They even dug up places 424 00:24:20,838 --> 00:24:23,118 and done all kind of stuff all around there, 425 00:24:23,220 --> 00:24:25,600 but I don't know. 426 00:24:25,705 --> 00:24:28,225 Was this drug related? Sex related? 427 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,230 We don't know. 428 00:24:32,436 --> 00:24:34,436 Nobody saw anything, 429 00:24:34,542 --> 00:24:37,272 nobody overheard anything, 430 00:24:37,372 --> 00:24:40,002 but make no mistake about this, 431 00:24:40,099 --> 00:24:43,589 just like the murder of Ken Rex McElroy... 432 00:24:45,725 --> 00:24:47,795 somebody knows. 433 00:24:52,801 --> 00:24:55,011 It wasn't long before Nodaway County authorities 434 00:24:55,114 --> 00:24:57,914 began to suspect foul play in Perry's disappearance. 435 00:24:58,013 --> 00:25:01,023 Officials say there's a lot of rumors circulating 436 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:02,920 about Branson's disappearance. 437 00:25:03,018 --> 00:25:05,188 But still, no answers. 438 00:25:05,296 --> 00:25:07,156 He's considered and listed 439 00:25:07,264 --> 00:25:09,204 as an endangered missing person. 440 00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:11,920 We've always believed in, and I think the investigation 441 00:25:12,027 --> 00:25:15,307 has yielded that some kind of foul play has taken place. 442 00:25:16,584 --> 00:25:18,174 You know, growing up I learned that 443 00:25:18,275 --> 00:25:20,095 there are predators out there everywhere. 444 00:25:20,208 --> 00:25:22,518 And not all of them are in prison. 445 00:25:26,007 --> 00:25:28,977 There's really two kinds of people in the world, 446 00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:31,119 there's sheeps and wolves, okay. 447 00:25:31,219 --> 00:25:34,189 The sheep is just happy to sit and eat all day. 448 00:25:35,672 --> 00:25:38,472 And life is great, okay, 449 00:25:38,571 --> 00:25:40,121 but then there's wolves. 450 00:25:41,229 --> 00:25:42,889 The wolf is a predator. 451 00:25:42,989 --> 00:25:45,099 It takes from others. 452 00:25:46,959 --> 00:25:49,549 Branson was a pretty cool kid. 453 00:25:49,651 --> 00:25:51,621 I used to go over to his house. 454 00:25:54,725 --> 00:25:57,935 Branson was a friend of my children. 455 00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:00,139 He had a really cool play set 456 00:26:00,248 --> 00:26:02,558 that his father built. 457 00:26:02,664 --> 00:26:05,704 His dad decided they wanted to be the fun place. 458 00:26:05,805 --> 00:26:07,695 If all the kids come to his house and play, 459 00:26:07,807 --> 00:26:09,667 his kids were going to be safe, right? 460 00:26:11,052 --> 00:26:14,612 He was a young energetic high school boy 461 00:26:14,711 --> 00:26:15,991 when I knew him. 462 00:26:16,091 --> 00:26:17,401 He just got out of high school. 463 00:26:17,506 --> 00:26:19,576 I knew his folks pretty well. 464 00:26:19,681 --> 00:26:22,171 They were a very good family. 465 00:26:22,270 --> 00:26:25,380 They were respected 466 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,730 by all the other people and the neighbors. 467 00:26:29,691 --> 00:26:31,071 I knew who he was. 468 00:26:31,175 --> 00:26:32,725 I think he was younger than my kids. 469 00:26:32,832 --> 00:26:35,252 I knew his dad. I knew his grandma. 470 00:26:35,352 --> 00:26:37,562 So I knew who he was. 471 00:26:37,665 --> 00:26:40,495 The question, I think, that you have to ask 472 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:44,189 with Branson Perry, certainly the one, you know, 473 00:26:44,292 --> 00:26:48,052 that I ask as a journalist is, "Why him?" 474 00:26:49,297 --> 00:26:51,227 Branson had a lot of potential in life, 475 00:26:51,333 --> 00:26:55,033 but wolves look for weakness, right? 476 00:26:55,130 --> 00:26:57,410 And you don't always have to be physically weak. 477 00:26:57,512 --> 00:26:59,622 Sometimes you can be emotionally weak. 478 00:26:59,721 --> 00:27:01,591 And sometimes, that's even better, 479 00:27:01,689 --> 00:27:04,109 because all they have to do is attack those emotion pieces 480 00:27:04,208 --> 00:27:06,308 and latch on and give you some hope. 481 00:27:09,213 --> 00:27:11,283 He became an easy target. 482 00:27:12,423 --> 00:27:14,053 Branson was a sheep. 483 00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:16,359 The world can't function with only sheep. 484 00:27:16,462 --> 00:27:19,742 And the world can't function with only wolves. 485 00:27:19,845 --> 00:27:21,635 You gotta have both. 486 00:27:26,299 --> 00:27:29,679 Branson Perry was the son of my neighbor. 487 00:27:29,786 --> 00:27:32,436 He was always a sweet child. 488 00:27:33,755 --> 00:27:35,405 It's just one of those things, 489 00:27:35,515 --> 00:27:36,895 we sit there and go, 490 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,900 "Why is this happening?" 491 00:27:40,072 --> 00:27:42,252 There were no tell-tale signs 492 00:27:42,350 --> 00:27:44,320 of something being wrong. 493 00:27:44,421 --> 00:27:48,011 There was no, "Mom, Dad, I'm going, and, 494 00:27:48,114 --> 00:27:50,364 well, I think I'll see you." 495 00:27:50,461 --> 00:27:51,501 There was none of that. 496 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,840 It was one day he was here 497 00:27:52,947 --> 00:27:55,187 and the next day he was gone. 498 00:27:59,816 --> 00:28:02,366 They put out rewards, 499 00:28:02,473 --> 00:28:04,483 they hired investigators. 500 00:28:04,579 --> 00:28:06,649 They even brought a medium in, 501 00:28:06,754 --> 00:28:10,214 to a séance or do whatever 502 00:28:10,309 --> 00:28:13,549 to feel the vibes of the property. 503 00:28:13,657 --> 00:28:16,347 That was our last resort. 504 00:28:17,178 --> 00:28:21,418 And when you run completely out, 505 00:28:21,527 --> 00:28:23,047 what's it gonna hurt? 506 00:28:24,254 --> 00:28:26,714 No matter how trivial 507 00:28:26,808 --> 00:28:29,258 you may think the information may be, 508 00:28:29,362 --> 00:28:34,892 it could be a very vital clue that will help. 509 00:28:37,646 --> 00:28:39,956 This is the case that's went a year, 510 00:28:40,063 --> 00:28:42,443 and we don't have anything really concrete. 511 00:28:42,548 --> 00:28:45,068 We don't have anybody arrested for it, 512 00:28:45,171 --> 00:28:47,931 um, we don't know he just completely disappeared 513 00:28:48,036 --> 00:28:49,416 off the face of the earth. 514 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,210 Sheriff Estes reminds 515 00:28:51,315 --> 00:28:53,865 all information is strictly confidential. 516 00:28:53,973 --> 00:28:56,153 I just ask that the community get involved, 517 00:28:56,251 --> 00:28:58,981 you know, for our closing, for the family. 518 00:28:59,082 --> 00:29:00,842 They wouldn't want one of their own children missing 519 00:29:00,946 --> 00:29:02,566 for a year. 520 00:29:02,671 --> 00:29:07,751 So the community is gonna have to assist our department 521 00:29:07,849 --> 00:29:10,269 in trying to solve this. 522 00:29:11,404 --> 00:29:13,374 Story's kind of got out, you know, 523 00:29:13,475 --> 00:29:16,685 that maybe some of the other kids in town 524 00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:20,519 knew what happened and, of course, didn't say anything. 525 00:29:22,001 --> 00:29:23,621 There were a lot of different theories 526 00:29:23,727 --> 00:29:27,037 about who was in the town and who wasn't. 527 00:29:27,144 --> 00:29:29,354 There are other details, 528 00:29:29,457 --> 00:29:32,317 very gruesome details, 529 00:29:32,425 --> 00:29:34,455 that were told to my son. 530 00:29:38,949 --> 00:29:42,259 Two years after Branson Perry went missing, 531 00:29:42,366 --> 00:29:44,016 they got a break in the case. 532 00:29:44,127 --> 00:29:46,267 A young man's disappearance unexplained, 533 00:29:46,370 --> 00:29:49,240 and now there's a push for new leads in a cold case. 534 00:29:49,339 --> 00:29:51,409 Two years after Branson vanished, 535 00:29:51,513 --> 00:29:54,003 the FBI arrested Jack Wayne Rogers of Fulton. 536 00:29:54,102 --> 00:29:56,002 They found disturbing messages on his computer 537 00:29:56,104 --> 00:29:58,074 claiming he had driven to Skidmore and abducted 538 00:29:58,175 --> 00:29:59,895 a blonde-haired boy. 539 00:30:08,910 --> 00:30:10,360 Jack Wayne Rogers 540 00:30:10,463 --> 00:30:13,743 was a lay minister in Fulton, Missouri. 541 00:30:13,846 --> 00:30:15,566 He went into chat rooms 542 00:30:15,675 --> 00:30:17,125 and he talked about... 543 00:30:18,575 --> 00:30:21,885 how he had abducted and murdered 544 00:30:21,992 --> 00:30:23,752 a blonde-haired young man 545 00:30:23,856 --> 00:30:25,956 from Skidmore, Missouri. 546 00:30:28,205 --> 00:30:32,205 That is what brought Jack Wayne Rogers 547 00:30:32,313 --> 00:30:34,973 to the attention of the authorities. 548 00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:37,589 It was pretty gruesome. 549 00:30:41,218 --> 00:30:43,258 He was investigated, 550 00:30:43,358 --> 00:30:46,148 and as part of the investigation, 551 00:30:46,258 --> 00:30:47,498 they searched his home. 552 00:30:49,295 --> 00:30:52,085 We ended up in Fulton, Missouri 553 00:30:52,195 --> 00:30:54,125 for three days doing a search warrant on a guy's house 554 00:30:54,231 --> 00:30:55,991 and diggin' up his backyard. 555 00:30:57,096 --> 00:30:58,716 And among the things 556 00:30:58,822 --> 00:31:00,582 that they found 557 00:31:00,686 --> 00:31:02,236 was a leather necklace 558 00:31:02,343 --> 00:31:05,933 that had a turtle's claw on it 559 00:31:06,036 --> 00:31:08,966 that Branson Perry's father 560 00:31:09,074 --> 00:31:12,664 positively said, "That's his necklace." 561 00:31:12,767 --> 00:31:14,697 When they looked at that guy's computer, 562 00:31:14,803 --> 00:31:18,393 they found child pornography, for one... 563 00:31:21,224 --> 00:31:24,334 ...but they also found images 564 00:31:24,434 --> 00:31:27,304 of botched gender reassignment surgeries 565 00:31:27,402 --> 00:31:30,582 he performed in motel rooms for another. 566 00:31:34,064 --> 00:31:37,214 Jack was a mutilator. 567 00:31:37,309 --> 00:31:41,309 He allegedly performed procedures 568 00:31:41,416 --> 00:31:45,206 on people who didn't like what gender they were, 569 00:31:45,317 --> 00:31:49,667 and he would perform gender nullifications. 570 00:31:49,769 --> 00:31:52,529 Sick-o people, right? 571 00:31:52,634 --> 00:31:54,504 It's unfortunate-- there's people like that 572 00:31:54,602 --> 00:31:56,052 out there in this world. 573 00:31:56,155 --> 00:31:58,565 I got hold of the transcripts 574 00:31:58,675 --> 00:32:00,875 of his chat room 575 00:32:00,988 --> 00:32:03,918 and I couldn't believe 576 00:32:04,025 --> 00:32:06,365 the horrible things he talked about. 577 00:32:09,444 --> 00:32:12,864 Rogers claimed that he knew the perfect way 578 00:32:12,965 --> 00:32:15,485 to impale an individual, 579 00:32:15,588 --> 00:32:18,248 make them suffer. 580 00:32:18,350 --> 00:32:22,940 I heard Branson was tied to a tree naked... 581 00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:27,602 was impaled by a stake 582 00:32:27,704 --> 00:32:30,474 through his nether regions, 583 00:32:30,569 --> 00:32:32,609 had his genitals cut off 584 00:32:32,709 --> 00:32:35,399 and eaten in front of him while he was still alive. 585 00:32:40,337 --> 00:32:44,267 Like, they got a picture of 'em on a paper plate, 586 00:32:44,376 --> 00:32:46,516 and then ate 'em right there in front of him 587 00:32:46,619 --> 00:32:48,039 while he was dying. 588 00:32:56,905 --> 00:32:59,695 Everyone thought Jack Wayne Rogers 589 00:32:59,805 --> 00:33:04,805 had something to do with Branson Perry's disappearance. 590 00:33:04,913 --> 00:33:08,573 But he always insisted that he was totally innocent 591 00:33:08,676 --> 00:33:12,606 of any crime against Branson Perry. 592 00:33:14,337 --> 00:33:15,987 He claimed that 593 00:33:16,097 --> 00:33:17,957 what he wrote in a chat room 594 00:33:18,065 --> 00:33:20,475 was not fact, 595 00:33:20,584 --> 00:33:22,214 but fiction that was based 596 00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:24,900 on a story he read about Branson Perry 597 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:27,043 in the local media. 598 00:33:30,042 --> 00:33:31,662 When you're in law enforcement, 599 00:33:31,768 --> 00:33:34,288 you can't determine if a lead is good or bad 600 00:33:34,391 --> 00:33:37,081 until you follow through with it and check it out. 601 00:33:37,187 --> 00:33:41,427 it was just tough because you gotta follow every lead. 602 00:33:41,536 --> 00:33:43,776 Every lead, you have to follow. 603 00:33:43,883 --> 00:33:46,993 And the Branson Perry's case 604 00:33:47,094 --> 00:33:49,484 led us in a lot of different directions. 605 00:33:50,614 --> 00:33:51,894 There was rumor 606 00:33:51,995 --> 00:33:53,955 that Branson was mutilated 607 00:33:54,066 --> 00:33:58,446 and a lot of really bad things happened to him. 608 00:33:59,589 --> 00:34:01,279 And of course, I imagine, 609 00:34:01,384 --> 00:34:02,874 over the years, that got out to the public 610 00:34:02,971 --> 00:34:04,661 that oh, that's what happened to Branson. 611 00:34:04,766 --> 00:34:06,106 No, we figured that out. 612 00:34:06,216 --> 00:34:08,386 And we went in with search warrants, 613 00:34:08,494 --> 00:34:12,194 and that was not the case, we was led astray. 614 00:34:12,291 --> 00:34:14,361 That didn't happen. 615 00:34:15,950 --> 00:34:18,500 The necklace, they believed was Branson's, 616 00:34:18,608 --> 00:34:22,028 in his possession, later found out it was not Branson's, 617 00:34:22,129 --> 00:34:23,819 but Branson had one like it. 618 00:34:25,822 --> 00:34:29,452 But Becky was at every one of his trials, 619 00:34:29,550 --> 00:34:31,280 because, at that point in time, 620 00:34:31,379 --> 00:34:33,859 she believed Jack Rogers had something to do with it. 621 00:34:35,383 --> 00:34:38,183 Authorities charged Jack Rogers 622 00:34:38,283 --> 00:34:41,733 with the pornography, they charged him 623 00:34:41,838 --> 00:34:44,148 with the body mutilation 624 00:34:44,254 --> 00:34:47,464 and the gender reassignment surgeries. 625 00:34:47,568 --> 00:34:51,298 He was sentenced to 30 years in prison. 626 00:34:52,262 --> 00:34:54,822 Branson Perry's mother was there. 627 00:34:56,128 --> 00:34:58,648 She begged him to tell her 628 00:34:58,751 --> 00:35:00,061 where her son was, 629 00:35:00,167 --> 00:35:03,447 even if dead, where his remains were. 630 00:35:03,549 --> 00:35:05,519 And Rogers insisted 631 00:35:05,620 --> 00:35:08,490 he had nothing to do with Branson's death. 632 00:35:08,589 --> 00:35:12,899 He would not give an inch on that. 633 00:35:14,698 --> 00:35:16,388 When the police did more investigation 634 00:35:16,493 --> 00:35:18,913 against Rogers and they said that they are 635 00:35:19,013 --> 00:35:22,433 99% sure that he is not involved in this case, 636 00:35:23,259 --> 00:35:25,849 Becky was devastated. 637 00:35:25,951 --> 00:35:28,711 But she believed the police. 638 00:35:35,995 --> 00:35:37,265 Needless to say, 639 00:35:37,376 --> 00:35:39,616 Bob and Becky had a hard time 640 00:35:39,723 --> 00:35:42,933 Bob was never the same after that. 641 00:35:43,037 --> 00:35:45,317 There were times I'd just see him walking down the street, 642 00:35:45,419 --> 00:35:47,249 just walking. 643 00:35:49,077 --> 00:35:51,597 I have to keep believing he's alive. 644 00:35:51,701 --> 00:35:53,771 I can't go the other side yet. 645 00:35:53,875 --> 00:35:57,425 I can't go that way. I can't give up hope. 646 00:35:57,534 --> 00:35:59,994 I know the family holds out hope 647 00:36:00,088 --> 00:36:04,538 that Branson Perry is alive somewhere. 648 00:36:04,645 --> 00:36:09,405 That's what we all want to believe, 649 00:36:09,512 --> 00:36:11,382 but he's probably not. 650 00:36:12,687 --> 00:36:14,547 It'd be easier to know 651 00:36:14,655 --> 00:36:16,855 that he went off with that man 652 00:36:16,967 --> 00:36:18,447 and was murdered. 653 00:36:20,488 --> 00:36:22,868 And, to me, that's what happened. 654 00:36:24,423 --> 00:36:26,533 But it's a terrible thing for the family 655 00:36:26,632 --> 00:36:28,912 to not know for sure. 656 00:36:34,882 --> 00:36:37,952 We don't know what happened. 657 00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:43,410 Really, just nobody knows. 658 00:36:44,374 --> 00:36:47,524 I don't know. I don't know. 659 00:36:47,619 --> 00:36:51,619 The last I knew about that boy was, 660 00:36:51,726 --> 00:36:53,446 he was seen in the afternoon 661 00:36:53,556 --> 00:36:57,416 by some friends, out here in a white van, 662 00:36:57,525 --> 00:36:59,315 north of Skidmore, 663 00:36:59,424 --> 00:37:01,324 on the side of the road. 664 00:37:01,426 --> 00:37:04,736 That was the last that this one person'd seen him. 665 00:37:06,016 --> 00:37:08,536 There's stories out there, around town. 666 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,020 I have no idea, but... 667 00:37:11,125 --> 00:37:14,265 something talk about, nothing else goes on here. 668 00:37:15,578 --> 00:37:18,408 I grew up in a small town. 669 00:37:18,512 --> 00:37:20,622 I knew who the bad kids were. 670 00:37:20,721 --> 00:37:22,901 So did my mom and dad. 671 00:37:22,999 --> 00:37:24,589 I heard talk 672 00:37:24,690 --> 00:37:28,730 about things that went on in my small home town. 673 00:37:28,832 --> 00:37:31,632 You can't tell me that somebody in that town 674 00:37:31,732 --> 00:37:35,872 doesn't know who Branson Perry was associating with. 675 00:37:37,185 --> 00:37:40,425 Skidmore is a mysterious town. 676 00:37:40,534 --> 00:37:42,614 Things go on there, but nobody has answers, 677 00:37:42,708 --> 00:37:46,058 and nobody wants to come forward with the answers. 678 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,230 Mr. Rogers had nothing to do with it. 679 00:37:49,336 --> 00:37:52,646 I think people are using Mr. Rogers 680 00:37:52,753 --> 00:37:55,863 as a scapegoat for the truth. 681 00:37:56,722 --> 00:37:58,002 They're trying to push it off 682 00:37:58,103 --> 00:37:59,213 to somebody else 683 00:37:59,311 --> 00:38:01,591 to relieve the pressure 684 00:38:01,693 --> 00:38:04,353 from the investigation on them. 685 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,600 And that explains 686 00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:10,630 the deathly silence 687 00:38:10,736 --> 00:38:13,596 surrounding the disappearance 688 00:38:13,705 --> 00:38:16,325 of that young man. 689 00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:19,159 And that brings us back 690 00:38:19,262 --> 00:38:21,262 to someone in Skidmore. 691 00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:44,599 Skidmore has the unlucky history about it 692 00:38:44,701 --> 00:38:46,391 of having some very violent crimes 693 00:38:46,496 --> 00:38:48,326 that's taken place there. 694 00:38:48,429 --> 00:38:50,219 Why it happens in Skidmore 695 00:38:50,328 --> 00:38:51,848 and why it's so infamous 696 00:38:51,950 --> 00:38:54,470 and why the murders are so spectacular... 697 00:38:55,505 --> 00:38:57,915 I have no idea why that happens. 698 00:39:00,717 --> 00:39:02,057 We are now working the disappearance 699 00:39:02,167 --> 00:39:04,377 of Branson Perry-- 700 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,380 that case, I have open now, 701 00:39:06,482 --> 00:39:09,422 since I come into office January 1. 702 00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:11,659 We believe it is a homicide. 703 00:39:12,833 --> 00:39:15,323 We believe we know who is responsible 704 00:39:15,422 --> 00:39:17,562 for the murder. 705 00:39:17,665 --> 00:39:20,005 Branson was no innocent young kid 706 00:39:20,116 --> 00:39:22,116 that somebody just walked up and shot 707 00:39:22,221 --> 00:39:24,121 that he didn't even know. 708 00:39:29,781 --> 00:39:31,301 He got involved in the wrong crowd, 709 00:39:31,403 --> 00:39:35,653 and they got to where there was drugs being made. 710 00:39:35,752 --> 00:39:38,452 Fixing and making methamphetamine. 711 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:42,520 And Branson Perry got shot 712 00:39:42,621 --> 00:39:44,931 because they thought he might talk. 713 00:39:46,314 --> 00:39:49,254 Stories kind of got out, you know, that maybe it was 714 00:39:49,352 --> 00:39:51,492 a drug deal that went bad. 715 00:39:51,596 --> 00:39:54,316 They killed him and got rid of his body 716 00:39:54,426 --> 00:39:56,766 and end of the story. 717 00:39:58,119 --> 00:39:59,569 We knew it was drug-related. 718 00:39:59,673 --> 00:40:01,233 Back then, they would have labs 719 00:40:01,329 --> 00:40:02,949 all over the entire county, 720 00:40:03,055 --> 00:40:05,775 and we made a lot of arrests for methamphetamine. 721 00:40:05,886 --> 00:40:08,506 And we hit 'em pretty hard, as hard as we could. 722 00:40:12,271 --> 00:40:15,001 I'll be a son of a gun if they didn't have a drug house 723 00:40:15,102 --> 00:40:16,832 two doors down from me. 724 00:40:18,243 --> 00:40:20,043 Had one three doors down 725 00:40:20,141 --> 00:40:21,661 the other way from me. 726 00:40:21,764 --> 00:40:25,424 There was about 11 drug houses here in town. 727 00:40:26,562 --> 00:40:28,252 We had one just down the road here, 728 00:40:28,356 --> 00:40:31,186 this old gray house on the corner 729 00:40:31,290 --> 00:40:33,740 where they was makin' meth. 730 00:40:33,845 --> 00:40:34,845 Legalize the stuff! 731 00:40:34,949 --> 00:40:36,539 Let 'em have to go buy it. 732 00:40:36,641 --> 00:40:38,881 Instead of goin' out to the street 733 00:40:38,988 --> 00:40:40,918 and doin' all this and that. 734 00:40:41,922 --> 00:40:43,542 When you're from a small town, 735 00:40:43,648 --> 00:40:46,238 there's nothing to do except for go out and drink, 736 00:40:46,340 --> 00:40:49,720 smoke, and nowadays, even more, do drugs. 737 00:40:49,826 --> 00:40:52,856 Branson wanted to do things a certain way in his life, 738 00:40:52,967 --> 00:40:55,517 and it came back to haunt him. 739 00:40:58,870 --> 00:41:00,490 When you look at Branson 740 00:41:00,596 --> 00:41:02,216 and the silence there, 741 00:41:02,321 --> 00:41:05,291 it just makes you think 742 00:41:05,393 --> 00:41:08,643 Skidmore is so haunted 743 00:41:08,742 --> 00:41:13,192 by the vigilante killing of Ken McElroy 744 00:41:13,298 --> 00:41:16,368 that it permeates their culture 745 00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:19,684 and makes violence more likely. 746 00:41:20,961 --> 00:41:23,381 I'm sure a lot of the people that were 747 00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:26,411 the sons and daughters of the witnesses 748 00:41:26,518 --> 00:41:30,278 and perpetrators had to have had an effect, 749 00:41:30,384 --> 00:41:32,564 whether they knew what it was or not, 750 00:41:32,662 --> 00:41:34,732 because the father or the mother 751 00:41:34,837 --> 00:41:37,217 would not be the same person again. 752 00:41:37,943 --> 00:41:40,293 You cannot experience 753 00:41:40,394 --> 00:41:44,364 something like this and not have part of you die as well. 754 00:41:44,467 --> 00:41:45,807 So I'm sure it had an effect 755 00:41:45,917 --> 00:41:48,057 on the next generation. 756 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,680 If a parent gets by with something, 757 00:41:50,784 --> 00:41:52,654 then your next generation down, or two, 758 00:41:52,751 --> 00:41:55,891 and they can think they're gonna get by with it. 759 00:41:57,998 --> 00:41:59,408 And in the case of Skidmore, 760 00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:01,237 there's a possibility that it did drop 761 00:42:01,346 --> 00:42:04,106 from one generation to another to another. 762 00:42:09,665 --> 00:42:12,875 Because we know exactly what's happened 763 00:42:12,978 --> 00:42:14,908 to Branson Perry. 764 00:42:15,878 --> 00:42:18,228 We know who was involved. 765 00:42:18,328 --> 00:42:21,568 And I can tell you right now that they were from Skidmore. 57149

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