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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:49,249 --> 00:00:51,084 I love it when the camera's a little higher, 2 00:00:51,451 --> 00:00:52,654 just a little. 3 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:53,721 Sorry. 4 00:00:55,255 --> 00:00:57,625 I may be my mother's daughter, 5 00:00:57,692 --> 00:01:00,127 but there's a lot of my father in it. 6 00:01:03,865 --> 00:01:05,033 Oh, Lenny, it's great. 7 00:01:11,138 --> 00:01:12,339 Can you get this? 8 00:01:13,407 --> 00:01:15,142 Okay. 9 00:01:15,208 --> 00:01:17,712 I wish you had a light that went right in my face. 10 00:01:30,858 --> 00:01:32,292 Okay, a little bit higher. 11 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:34,028 I'm talking to you. 12 00:01:34,094 --> 00:01:35,763 -Is that perfect? -That was perfect. 13 00:01:38,066 --> 00:01:40,969 That's what I always say. 14 00:01:57,051 --> 00:02:00,688 On the schnoz too. 15 00:02:09,931 --> 00:02:12,066 Let's all settle down, please. 16 00:02:12,132 --> 00:02:14,102 -Shut the fuck up. -Shut the fuck up. 17 00:02:21,174 --> 00:02:24,679 Ladies and gentlemen, Liza Minnelli. 18 00:02:39,627 --> 00:02:40,628 Yes. 19 00:02:44,464 --> 00:02:46,534 ♪ Say yes ♪ 20 00:02:46,601 --> 00:02:47,702 Iconic. 21 00:02:47,769 --> 00:02:48,903 One of the biggest stars in the world. 22 00:02:48,970 --> 00:02:50,104 Talent beyond belief. 23 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:52,073 -Liza Minnelli. -Liza Minnelli. 24 00:02:52,140 --> 00:02:54,408 -Liza Minnelli. -The one and only Liza. 25 00:02:54,474 --> 00:02:57,545 ♪ When opportunity comes your way ♪ 26 00:02:57,612 --> 00:02:59,580 -Films. -Concerts. 27 00:02:59,647 --> 00:03:01,749 ♪ Wondering what to say ♪ -Broadway. 28 00:03:01,816 --> 00:03:04,786 Tonys, a Grammy, an Emmy, even an Oscar, 29 00:03:04,852 --> 00:03:06,420 she has done it all. 30 00:03:06,486 --> 00:03:09,590 ♪ There's mink and marigold right outside ♪ 31 00:03:09,657 --> 00:03:11,224 People think that Liza was born 32 00:03:11,291 --> 00:03:13,460 in a red sequin dress, belting out a tune. 33 00:03:15,029 --> 00:03:16,463 She's weathered some hard times, 34 00:03:16,531 --> 00:03:18,498 both personally and professionally. 35 00:03:19,734 --> 00:03:22,737 ♪ Yes, I'm alive ♪ 36 00:03:22,804 --> 00:03:24,471 ♪ Yes, I say ♪ 37 00:03:24,539 --> 00:03:26,273 She has achieved that rare status 38 00:03:26,339 --> 00:03:29,342 where only a first name is necessary. 39 00:03:29,409 --> 00:03:30,578 I'm a star. 40 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,084 -♪ And yes, I'm going ♪ -She's simply the best. 41 00:03:36,150 --> 00:03:38,318 -Liza! -♪ On ♪ 42 00:03:40,253 --> 00:03:42,190 ♪ Yes ♪ 43 00:03:49,197 --> 00:03:50,297 Yes. 44 00:04:09,717 --> 00:04:10,818 Ladies and gentlemen, 45 00:04:10,885 --> 00:04:13,121 here is young Liza Minnelli. 46 00:04:14,756 --> 00:04:18,726 -How am I doing, Mama? -Oh, fine, Liza, keep going. 47 00:04:18,793 --> 00:04:20,828 Judy and her daughter Liza 48 00:04:20,895 --> 00:04:22,395 at the London Palladium. 49 00:04:22,462 --> 00:04:24,565 ♪ Hello, Liza ♪ 50 00:04:27,434 --> 00:04:32,540 - Hello? 51 00:04:53,961 --> 00:04:55,930 - Thousands of people lined the streets 52 00:04:55,997 --> 00:04:59,834 outside the funeral chapel on Manhattan's Upper East Side 53 00:04:59,901 --> 00:05:01,536 to pay this last tribute 54 00:05:01,602 --> 00:05:03,504 to a woman they had known since her childhood. 55 00:05:27,862 --> 00:05:28,863 -Is that Mama? 56 00:05:29,630 --> 00:05:30,463 No! 57 00:05:30,531 --> 00:05:31,632 My mother? Nah. 58 00:05:33,601 --> 00:05:35,169 She's never gonna pass. 59 00:05:36,170 --> 00:05:37,271 And I believed it. 60 00:05:39,941 --> 00:05:43,778 I started crying and I didn't stop for about eight days. 61 00:05:45,213 --> 00:05:48,683 It just was devastating to me 62 00:05:50,151 --> 00:05:52,220 and I was in charge of so much. 63 00:05:53,654 --> 00:05:55,556 - Her family, her three children, 64 00:05:55,623 --> 00:05:59,026 Liza Minnelli, Lorna and Joey Luft attended the services. 65 00:06:04,565 --> 00:06:06,567 It's hard to imagine what would've happened with Liza 66 00:06:06,634 --> 00:06:10,271 if her mother hadn't passed away at that moment in her life 67 00:06:10,338 --> 00:06:13,140 because it's kind of a before and after. 68 00:06:13,207 --> 00:06:15,810 Her mother's passing was a catalyst. 69 00:06:20,147 --> 00:06:24,986 -She took that period of time to hone the craft 70 00:06:26,020 --> 00:06:27,454 that her mother had given her, 71 00:06:27,521 --> 00:06:29,824 the legacy she had passed on to her. 72 00:06:29,891 --> 00:06:34,461 She took the grief as a period of incubation. 73 00:06:34,528 --> 00:06:38,199 -I think when her mom died, there was of course sorrow. 74 00:06:38,266 --> 00:06:42,603 Her mother was a massive person in her life, 75 00:06:42,670 --> 00:06:46,073 but I think there had to be an element of, 76 00:06:47,108 --> 00:06:49,043 I don't have to worry anymore, 77 00:06:49,110 --> 00:06:51,012 because I mean, her mom was a worry. 78 00:06:55,216 --> 00:06:56,884 -So what's next? 79 00:06:56,951 --> 00:06:58,986 Her mom has died, she's grieving, and at the same time, 80 00:06:59,053 --> 00:07:00,554 she's thinking about her own life. 81 00:07:00,621 --> 00:07:02,523 She's 23, what's she gonna do in her career 82 00:07:02,590 --> 00:07:05,393 because there was so much expected of her. 83 00:07:06,761 --> 00:07:09,030 ♪ Oh, sweet kindness ♪ 84 00:07:09,096 --> 00:07:11,165 ♪ A little magic, a little kindness ♪ 85 00:07:11,232 --> 00:07:12,533 -She is a talented dancer, 86 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,168 a talented singer, a great actress, 87 00:07:14,235 --> 00:07:16,671 but these things all need to be developed. 88 00:07:16,737 --> 00:07:21,809 So she found friends and mentors who helped her. 89 00:07:24,245 --> 00:07:25,880 -What I was really good at 90 00:07:25,947 --> 00:07:28,416 was picking the people to be around. 91 00:07:28,481 --> 00:07:30,251 I had a good eye. 92 00:07:30,318 --> 00:07:31,852 I think I still do. 93 00:07:31,919 --> 00:07:34,388 ♪ Don't let Annie hear it ♪ 94 00:07:34,454 --> 00:07:36,991 ♪ We don't believe in the Jezebel spirit ♪ 95 00:07:37,058 --> 00:07:41,696 -It was now or never, so she set out to create the person 96 00:07:41,762 --> 00:07:43,531 that she wanted to become. 97 00:08:04,251 --> 00:08:05,853 -Kay. 98 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,358 ♪ Come along and join a Jubilee ♪ 99 00:08:13,493 --> 00:08:16,364 -How smart of you to show me this right now. 100 00:08:16,430 --> 00:08:18,099 It's giving me courage too. 101 00:08:19,033 --> 00:08:20,067 - In what way? 102 00:08:20,134 --> 00:08:21,135 -Because it's fun 103 00:08:22,336 --> 00:08:24,305 and I'm nervous so it helps that. 104 00:08:27,508 --> 00:08:29,243 -The minute her mother died, 105 00:08:29,310 --> 00:08:31,245 Kay Thompson comes back into Liza's life 106 00:08:31,312 --> 00:08:34,315 as her quirky godmother who took her under her wing 107 00:08:34,382 --> 00:08:37,752 and gave her this sort of life wisdom. 108 00:08:37,818 --> 00:08:40,788 -Liza called Kay, who was in Rome. 109 00:08:40,855 --> 00:08:44,892 Kay immediately flew to New York and took over. 110 00:08:44,959 --> 00:08:46,327 What are you gonna wear? 111 00:08:46,394 --> 00:08:47,828 What's the casket? 112 00:08:47,895 --> 00:08:49,964 Kay said We need a white casket. 113 00:08:50,031 --> 00:08:52,433 The funeral home said we don't have white caskets. 114 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:55,669 And Kay said, "We're from MGM. Spray it." 115 00:08:58,372 --> 00:09:01,308 Kay really started to mentor Liza 116 00:09:01,375 --> 00:09:04,678 at a time when Liza didn't know who she was. 117 00:09:04,745 --> 00:09:06,981 Was she Judy Garland's daughter? 118 00:09:07,048 --> 00:09:08,983 Who was she supposed to be? 119 00:09:09,050 --> 00:09:11,619 -Her fight was to find who she was, not her mother. 120 00:09:11,685 --> 00:09:13,788 She knew who her mother was. 121 00:09:13,854 --> 00:09:15,524 She didn't wanna be her mother. 122 00:09:15,589 --> 00:09:17,992 -Kay Thompson is always referred to as larger than life, 123 00:09:18,059 --> 00:09:19,960 but Liza was also larger than life 124 00:09:20,027 --> 00:09:22,496 and Liza became larger than life because she watched Kay. 125 00:09:22,563 --> 00:09:25,299 ♪ Kay Thompson, Kay, Kay Thompson ♪ 126 00:09:25,366 --> 00:09:26,867 ♪ Hello hello ♪ 127 00:09:26,934 --> 00:09:28,769 ♪ We're having a birthday party ♪ 128 00:09:28,836 --> 00:09:32,507 ♪ A lot like Jubilee time, a lot like Jubilee time ♪ 129 00:09:32,573 --> 00:09:36,811 -Kay Thompson was a singer, a vocal arranger, 130 00:09:36,877 --> 00:09:40,714 a composer, a lyricist, a cultural icon, 131 00:09:40,781 --> 00:09:45,186 a fashion icon, an author of the Eloise books. 132 00:09:45,252 --> 00:09:48,189 Kay supposedly created the character of Eloise 133 00:09:48,255 --> 00:09:51,325 patterned in part after Liza. 134 00:09:51,392 --> 00:09:55,530 She became a mentor musically first to Judy Garland, 135 00:09:55,596 --> 00:09:57,798 and then to Liza Minnelli. 136 00:09:58,567 --> 00:10:00,000 -Hi. 137 00:10:00,067 --> 00:10:01,168 Bonjour Paris. 138 00:10:01,235 --> 00:10:03,637 I'm heavenly. Hi, there. 139 00:10:03,704 --> 00:10:05,406 -There was this deep bond 140 00:10:05,473 --> 00:10:07,174 where they were like two girlfriends 141 00:10:07,241 --> 00:10:09,578 and shared this spiritual life together 142 00:10:09,643 --> 00:10:13,747 and Kay opened up the world to Liza 143 00:10:13,814 --> 00:10:15,649 to have a different perspective, 144 00:10:15,716 --> 00:10:19,320 an off kilter perspective, a kooky perspective of life. 145 00:10:20,888 --> 00:10:22,557 - With pleasure, my darling. 146 00:10:22,623 --> 00:10:24,225 We're both from the Virgin Islands, so let's go. 147 00:10:24,291 --> 00:10:26,427 -Okay, thank you. -I love you sweat tears. 148 00:10:26,494 --> 00:10:28,530 Is that from the Virgins? 149 00:10:47,616 --> 00:10:49,850 - Kay wrote that, I love that song. 150 00:10:49,917 --> 00:10:54,054 -I was really happy to be invited to be in a show 151 00:10:54,121 --> 00:10:56,290 that ended up being called "Liza's at the Palace." 152 00:10:56,357 --> 00:10:59,360 We toured for three years, ended up on Broadway. 153 00:10:59,426 --> 00:11:02,196 It was interesting that after much touring 154 00:11:02,263 --> 00:11:06,901 and some illnesses, Liza took this return to Broadway 155 00:11:06,967 --> 00:11:09,303 as a celebration of Kay Thompson. 156 00:11:11,038 --> 00:11:14,241 -She was so original, the way she would teach you stuff. 157 00:11:14,308 --> 00:11:17,579 I mean, when my parents were gone, she never left my side. 158 00:11:17,646 --> 00:11:20,615 We were so close, I was such a fan. 159 00:11:20,681 --> 00:11:21,682 She was it. 160 00:11:22,750 --> 00:11:23,884 She was it for me. 161 00:11:25,319 --> 00:11:29,723 She understood my fears and what worried me 162 00:11:29,790 --> 00:11:32,159 and she always knew what to say. 163 00:11:32,226 --> 00:11:33,794 I got the jitters. 164 00:11:33,861 --> 00:11:36,063 -Don't have. -Just a little. 165 00:11:36,130 --> 00:11:37,498 -Oh, well, a little is great. 166 00:11:37,566 --> 00:11:39,133 -When you get up there, 167 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,434 you suddenly realize what's expected of you 168 00:11:40,502 --> 00:11:42,169 and you get scared. 169 00:11:42,236 --> 00:11:43,904 - But I think we get that way 170 00:11:43,971 --> 00:11:46,508 because we think we have to do more than we can do, 171 00:11:46,575 --> 00:11:49,511 which is the dumbest form of insanity in the world. 172 00:11:49,578 --> 00:11:51,646 You can only do what you can do, no more. 173 00:11:51,712 --> 00:11:53,414 -That's true. 174 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,483 The most important thing, and Kay told me this, 175 00:11:56,551 --> 00:11:59,053 don't go around with people you don't like. 176 00:11:59,119 --> 00:12:02,456 Or even if you're curious about people you don't, 177 00:12:02,524 --> 00:12:04,191 don't do it. 178 00:12:04,258 --> 00:12:06,493 - And if I get killed in an elevator tonight, 179 00:12:06,561 --> 00:12:08,762 don't waste your time with dull people. 180 00:12:08,829 --> 00:12:09,930 -Okay. 181 00:12:09,997 --> 00:12:11,098 - It's like an emery board 182 00:12:11,165 --> 00:12:12,199 going over you all the time. 183 00:12:14,768 --> 00:12:18,205 It's terrible and you become dull yourself. 184 00:12:18,272 --> 00:12:19,974 All right, now what you can do is turn around 185 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,309 so that's because what you've got in back of you. 186 00:12:24,178 --> 00:12:25,846 -She taught me everything. 187 00:12:25,913 --> 00:12:29,416 She taught me how to live life, 188 00:12:31,185 --> 00:12:35,389 how to appreciate everything that we were going through. 189 00:12:36,090 --> 00:12:37,157 ♪ People to be ♪ 190 00:12:39,460 --> 00:12:42,396 ♪ What some people and me ♪ 191 00:12:42,463 --> 00:12:44,198 Give me more level. 192 00:12:45,399 --> 00:12:47,201 Does it sound good back there? 193 00:12:47,268 --> 00:12:48,902 - Beautiful sound. 194 00:12:48,969 --> 00:12:51,238 -Wish I could give myself just a little more. 195 00:12:51,772 --> 00:12:54,542 She'd seen me start to shake, so I was putting my makeup on 196 00:12:54,609 --> 00:12:56,410 and she'd say... 197 00:12:57,444 --> 00:13:00,414 ♪ Happy days are here again ♪ 198 00:13:00,481 --> 00:13:02,717 ♪ The skies are bright ♪ 199 00:13:02,783 --> 00:13:04,184 You know. 200 00:13:04,251 --> 00:13:06,086 She'd kept me singing, I'd relax. 201 00:13:06,153 --> 00:13:10,157 -The theater is beautifully perfect acoustically. 202 00:13:10,224 --> 00:13:12,459 And this sound is heavenly. 203 00:13:13,662 --> 00:13:15,329 What more can I say? 204 00:13:15,396 --> 00:13:17,666 -She would stand backstage with me sometimes 205 00:13:17,732 --> 00:13:20,401 and she'd slap me on the behind and say, "Go!" 206 00:13:21,802 --> 00:13:24,405 I went "Wow!" I was on stage. 207 00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:26,641 -So I mean, honey, you're in, you know? 208 00:13:28,710 --> 00:13:29,778 Hi, there. 209 00:13:29,843 --> 00:13:31,145 -How do I wanna say that? 210 00:13:32,681 --> 00:13:35,215 Kay never felt particularly attractive. 211 00:13:35,282 --> 00:13:38,452 She said she had a new face made of old material. 212 00:13:40,821 --> 00:13:42,389 Great line. 213 00:13:42,456 --> 00:13:46,528 She had a real feeling of being less than, 214 00:13:46,594 --> 00:13:48,262 and then moving to Hollywood 215 00:13:48,329 --> 00:13:52,266 where everyone is beautiful must have been crushing. 216 00:13:54,001 --> 00:13:58,105 So I think that's perhaps where some jealousy came from. 217 00:13:59,106 --> 00:14:00,642 She was the one with the talent 218 00:14:00,709 --> 00:14:03,778 and she was coaching all of these other people 219 00:14:03,844 --> 00:14:05,513 to do what she did. 220 00:14:07,114 --> 00:14:11,753 So there were a couple withering comments here and there 221 00:14:11,820 --> 00:14:16,890 from Kay that I know would hurt Liza. 222 00:14:18,392 --> 00:14:20,562 There was a lot of jealousy in Kay Thompson. 223 00:14:22,396 --> 00:14:25,132 ♪ All kinds of weather ♪ 224 00:14:25,199 --> 00:14:27,067 ♪ What if the sky should fall ♪ 225 00:14:27,134 --> 00:14:28,168 ♪ I don't know ♪ 226 00:14:28,235 --> 00:14:30,605 ♪ 227 00:14:30,672 --> 00:14:31,673 ♪ Where we going ♪ 228 00:14:31,740 --> 00:14:33,240 ♪ It doesn't matter ♪ 229 00:14:33,307 --> 00:14:34,776 -During the last years of Kay's life, 230 00:14:34,843 --> 00:14:38,178 Liza took care of her in her own home, 231 00:14:38,245 --> 00:14:41,115 round the clock staff, the best food. 232 00:14:41,181 --> 00:14:43,250 Liza gets her star in heaven 233 00:14:43,317 --> 00:14:46,186 for treating her so beautifully. 234 00:14:46,253 --> 00:14:51,158 -And the last words she ever said to me were these. 235 00:14:53,093 --> 00:14:54,696 "Goodbye, darling. 236 00:14:55,597 --> 00:14:57,197 Happy everything!" 237 00:15:04,539 --> 00:15:09,042 -I think Kay, the mentor, made Liza the superstar possible. 238 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:26,861 -Hi, I'm Liza. 239 00:15:28,095 --> 00:15:29,096 When I was 18, 240 00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:33,601 I went in New York one night to the Ambassador Theater 241 00:15:35,135 --> 00:15:37,137 and there I saw something that I'll never forget. 242 00:15:39,239 --> 00:15:40,608 Ladies and gentlemen, 243 00:15:42,042 --> 00:15:43,944 I have brought you a present from France. 244 00:15:45,613 --> 00:15:47,214 Charles Aznavour. 245 00:15:51,653 --> 00:15:54,589 Charles Aznavour changed my life. 246 00:15:54,656 --> 00:15:57,559 He changed my entire life. 247 00:15:57,625 --> 00:15:59,226 I don't think I'm a real good singer, 248 00:15:59,293 --> 00:16:00,961 but I can act some. 249 00:16:02,162 --> 00:16:06,400 ♪ So we are alone again tonight ♪ 250 00:16:06,467 --> 00:16:10,003 ♪ I read a book, you watch the fight ♪ 251 00:16:10,070 --> 00:16:13,240 ♪ Stifled you on a can of beer ♪ 252 00:16:13,307 --> 00:16:17,846 ♪ What an enthralling atmosphere ♪ 253 00:16:17,912 --> 00:16:22,550 ♪ And yet the sight of you this way ♪ 254 00:16:22,617 --> 00:16:26,921 ♪ Helps me say what I must say ♪ 255 00:16:29,456 --> 00:16:32,961 Which was written by Charles Aznavour. 256 00:16:33,026 --> 00:16:35,797 -She'd learned a lot from Aznavour. 257 00:16:35,864 --> 00:16:37,498 I mean, it all paid off. 258 00:16:39,099 --> 00:16:44,104 -I see her taking the advice of Charles Aznavour 259 00:16:46,808 --> 00:16:51,846 very seriously with lyrics and interpretation. 260 00:16:53,213 --> 00:16:55,917 -Aznavour is one of the most beloved 261 00:16:55,984 --> 00:17:00,220 iconic French singers/songwriters/performers 262 00:17:00,287 --> 00:17:03,625 who was mentored by Edith Piaf, 263 00:17:03,691 --> 00:17:06,628 with whom he had a relationship very early in his career. 264 00:17:08,362 --> 00:17:10,632 - He personified French culture to the world. 265 00:17:10,698 --> 00:17:13,233 - Aznavour sold 180 million records. 266 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:15,402 - The French Frank Sinatra. 267 00:17:20,808 --> 00:17:22,409 - Tell us all you have to know. 268 00:17:22,476 --> 00:17:24,679 -First of all, to be honest with the public 269 00:17:24,746 --> 00:17:29,249 and to be kind of an actor on stage, 270 00:17:29,316 --> 00:17:32,352 much more than to open the mouth and throw a voice out. 271 00:17:43,497 --> 00:17:46,199 -When you see Aznavour perform, even if it's in French 272 00:17:46,266 --> 00:17:48,002 and you don't understand what he's saying, 273 00:17:48,068 --> 00:17:53,173 he has that same ability to communicate 274 00:17:54,742 --> 00:17:58,145 and make you feel the gamut of every emotion. 275 00:18:09,791 --> 00:18:14,629 When Liza saw Aznavour, she said, "That's it. That's it." 276 00:18:16,430 --> 00:18:18,198 It was different from what her mother did 277 00:18:18,265 --> 00:18:22,637 and Aznavour was this embodiment 278 00:18:22,704 --> 00:18:27,474 of not only the show business part and the vocal part, 279 00:18:27,542 --> 00:18:29,711 but the grittiness of life. 280 00:18:51,065 --> 00:18:53,233 -Charles Aznavour is the person Liza has credited 281 00:18:53,300 --> 00:18:56,203 with being one of the architects of helping her find 282 00:18:56,269 --> 00:18:57,538 her own voice. 283 00:19:06,179 --> 00:19:08,850 -The creative part of their relationship 284 00:19:08,916 --> 00:19:13,988 was really good for Liza because I remember Frank saying 285 00:19:15,455 --> 00:19:18,526 about Liza when she started out, he said, 286 00:19:18,593 --> 00:19:22,396 "Not everything has to be the national anthem." 287 00:19:22,462 --> 00:19:24,766 And I knew what he meant, but I didn't say anything. 288 00:19:24,832 --> 00:19:29,137 Aznavour, I think from Aznavour, 289 00:19:29,202 --> 00:19:33,641 she saw a way of delivering the song in a way 290 00:19:33,708 --> 00:19:38,345 that was closer, closer to the heart. 291 00:19:39,279 --> 00:19:41,749 She can do the big stuff 292 00:19:41,816 --> 00:19:45,119 and her mom always did the the big stuff too, 293 00:19:45,185 --> 00:19:47,955 but I think being able to do both 294 00:19:48,022 --> 00:19:53,127 is something that she showed more of after Aznavour. 295 00:20:35,203 --> 00:20:37,772 -I always wanted to dance. 296 00:20:37,839 --> 00:20:40,141 It was the first thing I could do. 297 00:20:40,208 --> 00:20:41,943 I loved it. 298 00:20:42,009 --> 00:20:46,180 I danced before I sang, before I did anything. 299 00:20:46,246 --> 00:20:49,517 I wanted to be in a dance company, you know? 300 00:20:50,785 --> 00:20:52,720 'Cause what I loved so much was... 301 00:20:52,787 --> 00:20:54,789 ♪ I want a natural ♪ 302 00:20:54,856 --> 00:20:56,289 Cut and go to the clip. 303 00:20:57,225 --> 00:20:58,659 ♪ I want a natural man ♪ 304 00:20:58,726 --> 00:21:00,061 ♪ I want a natural man ♪ 305 00:21:00,128 --> 00:21:01,896 ♪ I want a natural man ♪ 306 00:21:01,963 --> 00:21:05,733 ♪ I want a natural man, yes ♪ 307 00:21:07,602 --> 00:21:09,302 -Liza grew up surrounded by dance. 308 00:21:09,369 --> 00:21:11,973 ♪ Shout hallelujah, come on get happy ♪ 309 00:21:12,039 --> 00:21:13,841 ♪ You better chase all your cares away ♪ 310 00:21:13,908 --> 00:21:15,308 -Not only because of her mother, 311 00:21:15,375 --> 00:21:17,812 but also because of her father 312 00:21:17,879 --> 00:21:20,248 -Out in the audience, Vincente Minnelli. 313 00:21:22,717 --> 00:21:23,918 -Quiet! Roll sound. 314 00:21:25,586 --> 00:21:28,488 -Vincente Minnelli was a true Hollywood visionary. 315 00:21:28,556 --> 00:21:31,692 He was an extraordinary director of iconic musicals, 316 00:21:31,759 --> 00:21:35,096 American in Paris and The Band Wagon, and GiGi. 317 00:21:35,163 --> 00:21:37,999 And he had this eye for perfectionism 318 00:21:38,065 --> 00:21:40,034 and that is the thing that Liza inherited 319 00:21:40,101 --> 00:21:43,905 and that's one of the most important traits in who she is. 320 00:21:43,971 --> 00:21:47,108 -Well, my father inspired me with everything, 321 00:21:47,175 --> 00:21:51,378 especially art, and from watching him direct everybody else, 322 00:21:51,444 --> 00:21:52,445 he was a tyrant, you know. 323 00:21:54,248 --> 00:21:56,017 Come here, camera. 324 00:21:56,083 --> 00:22:00,453 I don't want it straight away or down, I want it there. 325 00:22:01,923 --> 00:22:06,093 Now tilts It, too far, there, that's the angle. 326 00:22:07,128 --> 00:22:08,461 Vincente Minnelli's daughter, 327 00:22:08,529 --> 00:22:09,797 what are you gonna do? -I know. 328 00:22:11,364 --> 00:22:13,534 - I just loved hanging out at the studio 329 00:22:13,601 --> 00:22:15,435 where my father and mother worked, 330 00:22:15,503 --> 00:22:20,541 especially when my father was directing dance sequences. 331 00:22:21,843 --> 00:22:22,944 -Sometimes she would come on the set 332 00:22:23,010 --> 00:22:24,745 and I said, "Who is that girl?" 333 00:22:24,812 --> 00:22:26,814 He said, "That's Vincente's daughter." 334 00:22:28,649 --> 00:22:31,484 She'd sing a little number and she'd do a little dance step. 335 00:22:31,552 --> 00:22:32,920 Great enthusiasm. 336 00:22:35,122 --> 00:22:36,824 -I learned by watching. 337 00:22:37,825 --> 00:22:38,826 You know. 338 00:22:41,829 --> 00:22:44,565 There was something about movement, 339 00:22:44,632 --> 00:22:48,102 the choreography that thrilled me, 340 00:22:48,169 --> 00:22:50,403 to move through the air. 341 00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:52,372 I just knew I had to do it. 342 00:22:54,008 --> 00:22:56,611 I didn't have the classic dancer's body. 343 00:22:56,677 --> 00:22:59,513 I discovered that I had scoliosis 344 00:22:59,580 --> 00:23:02,583 and one leg went higher than the other. 345 00:23:02,650 --> 00:23:05,620 I was really insecure about this, 346 00:23:05,686 --> 00:23:08,222 but I had to learn to deal with it. 347 00:23:09,489 --> 00:23:12,492 Emphasize what you think is good, 348 00:23:13,694 --> 00:23:15,363 and what you don't like, change it. 349 00:23:18,699 --> 00:23:21,636 -There was a sense that Liza needed to take 350 00:23:21,702 --> 00:23:23,204 all of this raw dance talent 351 00:23:23,271 --> 00:23:25,106 and channel it into something bigger, 352 00:23:25,172 --> 00:23:27,041 something greater that she was feeling. 353 00:23:27,108 --> 00:23:29,210 So on the scene comes a dance legend 354 00:23:29,277 --> 00:23:33,180 who would channel her talents and change her life. 355 00:23:33,247 --> 00:23:34,849 -You know me. 356 00:23:34,916 --> 00:23:36,449 I directed the show's "Pippen" and "Chicago" 357 00:23:36,517 --> 00:23:38,485 and the films "Cabaret" and "Lenny," 358 00:23:38,552 --> 00:23:41,022 but still people don't know my face. 359 00:23:49,363 --> 00:23:51,198 -Bob Fosse started out dancing 360 00:23:51,265 --> 00:23:53,868 as a young boy in his native Chicago. 361 00:23:53,935 --> 00:23:56,537 He moved to choreography on Broadway, 362 00:23:56,604 --> 00:23:58,873 becoming one of the biggest in the business. 363 00:23:59,740 --> 00:24:01,676 Later directing shows 364 00:24:01,742 --> 00:24:05,579 and then eventually inevitably to directing motion pictures. 365 00:24:07,281 --> 00:24:11,552 -Bob Fosse to work with was very precise and humorous. 366 00:24:13,254 --> 00:24:16,357 -He was a perfectionist in terms of the choreography. 367 00:24:16,424 --> 00:24:18,259 Do it one more time. 368 00:24:18,326 --> 00:24:23,431 You didn't do, you didn't, do, jip, boo. 369 00:24:24,832 --> 00:24:28,502 -A signature Bob Fosse move would be his hands, 370 00:24:28,569 --> 00:24:29,737 the hips, 371 00:24:31,672 --> 00:24:33,074 the tilt of the head. 372 00:24:35,743 --> 00:24:40,681 And it's the simplicity of the move that is so powerful. 373 00:24:40,748 --> 00:24:43,050 It's not the cartwheel, the split, 374 00:24:43,117 --> 00:24:44,885 and the jump and the bang, bang, bang. 375 00:24:44,952 --> 00:24:48,255 No, it's a quiet moments. 376 00:24:48,322 --> 00:24:50,358 Little things like a flick of a head, 377 00:24:51,959 --> 00:24:52,960 a look. 378 00:24:54,428 --> 00:24:56,097 These are Fosseisms. 379 00:24:59,867 --> 00:25:01,635 -I think we should mention somewhere in here 380 00:25:01,702 --> 00:25:04,405 about my audition for the Broadway show of "Cabaret" 381 00:25:04,472 --> 00:25:05,473 and not getting it. 382 00:25:05,539 --> 00:25:07,308 -Ah, baby. 383 00:25:08,709 --> 00:25:10,778 -Originally when it was conceived for Broadway, 384 00:25:10,845 --> 00:25:12,313 I lost the role. 385 00:25:12,380 --> 00:25:13,814 It was something I always wanted to do. 386 00:25:13,881 --> 00:25:15,449 I always wanted to do Sally Bowles. 387 00:25:15,516 --> 00:25:17,785 And then when they made the film, 388 00:25:17,852 --> 00:25:20,454 I just petitioned for it, I fought for it. 389 00:25:20,554 --> 00:25:23,391 I wanted to sing it, that's all. 390 00:25:23,457 --> 00:25:26,427 Is that too simple an answer? 391 00:25:26,494 --> 00:25:27,962 So I finally got the role 392 00:25:28,029 --> 00:25:30,731 and Bob Fosse was gonna direct. 393 00:25:30,798 --> 00:25:32,433 Oh my God. 394 00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:35,803 We met at the Waldorf coffee shop. 395 00:25:35,870 --> 00:25:38,739 I must have made him nervous or something 396 00:25:38,806 --> 00:25:41,409 because he suddenly got vaguely defensive. 397 00:25:41,475 --> 00:25:45,846 He suddenly said, "How do you feel about going topless?" 398 00:25:45,913 --> 00:25:48,582 I said, "I won't do it." 399 00:25:48,649 --> 00:25:50,184 There's always a way around it. 400 00:25:50,251 --> 00:25:53,087 And he said, "All right, I was just wondering." 401 00:25:53,154 --> 00:25:54,622 Right away we clicked. 402 00:25:54,688 --> 00:25:56,857 He was some kind of sexy and wacko 403 00:25:56,924 --> 00:25:59,693 and had this great sense of humor. 404 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,163 -When Liza talks about Fosse, she always says, 405 00:26:02,229 --> 00:26:03,532 "I'm a director's daughter. 406 00:26:03,597 --> 00:26:04,999 I understood how to deal with him." 407 00:26:05,066 --> 00:26:07,034 -The Liza-Fosse combination. 408 00:26:07,101 --> 00:26:12,173 I always felt that Liza knew how to get the most out of him. 409 00:26:13,508 --> 00:26:14,475 ♪ Money makes the world go around ♪ 410 00:26:14,543 --> 00:26:15,510 ♪ The world go around ♪ 411 00:26:15,576 --> 00:26:17,011 ♪ The world go around ♪ 412 00:26:17,078 --> 00:26:18,612 ♪ Money makes the world go around ♪ 413 00:26:18,679 --> 00:26:22,316 ♪ It makes the world go round ♪ 414 00:26:22,383 --> 00:26:25,186 -I was not a trained dancer. 415 00:26:25,252 --> 00:26:27,788 Liza was much more so, 416 00:26:27,855 --> 00:26:30,958 and she would always say, "It's gonna be fine. 417 00:26:31,025 --> 00:26:33,327 Ssh, don't say anything. 418 00:26:33,394 --> 00:26:38,165 Shut the fuck up." And I did. 419 00:26:38,232 --> 00:26:39,867 ♪ And you haven't any cold stove ♪ 420 00:26:39,934 --> 00:26:41,335 ♪ And you freeze in the winter ♪ 421 00:26:41,402 --> 00:26:42,504 ♪ And curse through the ceiling ♪ 422 00:26:42,571 --> 00:26:44,205 -Liza's feet were bleeding, 423 00:26:44,271 --> 00:26:47,341 so I went to Bob and said, "Her feet are bleeding. 424 00:26:47,408 --> 00:26:48,543 I don't think she can dance." 425 00:26:48,609 --> 00:26:50,478 And he said, "Yeah, she can. 426 00:26:50,545 --> 00:26:52,746 She's getting paid a lot of money and that's what she does." 427 00:26:52,813 --> 00:26:54,982 -Okay, can we do that once more? 428 00:26:55,049 --> 00:26:56,984 A few more lines than before. 429 00:26:57,051 --> 00:27:00,321 -She was totally in awe of him. 430 00:27:00,387 --> 00:27:01,922 She did whatever he wanted. 431 00:27:05,092 --> 00:27:07,862 -Something happened during the shooting of a scene 432 00:27:07,928 --> 00:27:09,864 and Fosse was blaming her 433 00:27:09,930 --> 00:27:12,867 and after the shoot was over, he said, 434 00:27:12,933 --> 00:27:15,836 "Liza, I wanna see you in my office right now." 435 00:27:15,903 --> 00:27:18,739 She said, "No, Bobby, we'll talk about it tomorrow." 436 00:27:18,806 --> 00:27:20,509 He said, "Right now." 437 00:27:20,575 --> 00:27:24,278 And she said, "No, Bobby, if I go in there now, 438 00:27:24,345 --> 00:27:27,181 you're gonna say things to me that are gonna be so horrible 439 00:27:27,248 --> 00:27:30,117 that tomorrow morning you're gonna send me flowers. 440 00:27:31,418 --> 00:27:35,789 So we'll talk about it tomorrow." 441 00:27:35,856 --> 00:27:38,926 I think it's so revealing and so smart. 442 00:27:42,129 --> 00:27:44,198 -I remember going to rent the movie 443 00:27:44,265 --> 00:27:46,734 and being so in love with this chick 444 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,469 that was playing Sally Bowles. 445 00:27:48,537 --> 00:27:50,437 I was just like, she's hot, she's sexy, she's weird. 446 00:27:50,505 --> 00:27:55,376 -She had that fierceness and also so much vulnerability. 447 00:27:56,810 --> 00:27:59,446 -Sally Bowles to me was a woman of life 448 00:27:59,514 --> 00:28:03,717 and yet a tragic expression of life 449 00:28:03,784 --> 00:28:07,788 and I think that Liza identified with the silent part 450 00:28:07,855 --> 00:28:10,257 of herself that the public didn't know 451 00:28:10,324 --> 00:28:14,028 and she had a chance to express it through Sally Bowles. 452 00:28:14,094 --> 00:28:17,264 -So I went to my dad and I said, 453 00:28:17,331 --> 00:28:19,133 "Well, do I have to dye my hair blonde 454 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,501 and pull out all my eyebrows?" 455 00:28:20,569 --> 00:28:22,671 And he said, "No, no, no darling." 456 00:28:22,736 --> 00:28:25,105 And he showed me Lya de Putti 457 00:28:25,172 --> 00:28:27,808 and he showed me Louise Brooks. 458 00:28:27,875 --> 00:28:29,678 And he said, "There's a way to do this 459 00:28:29,743 --> 00:28:31,546 and you'll figure it out." 460 00:28:31,613 --> 00:28:35,282 You have to be absolutely concentrate on what you're doing 461 00:28:35,349 --> 00:28:37,751 and who this person is 462 00:28:37,818 --> 00:28:40,888 and what happened to her to become this person. 463 00:28:40,955 --> 00:28:43,857 One day I went into this store 464 00:28:43,924 --> 00:28:46,427 and this wonderful lady called Christina Smith 465 00:28:46,493 --> 00:28:49,029 was selling these enormous eyelashes, 466 00:28:49,096 --> 00:28:51,533 and I thought that would be good for her 467 00:28:52,733 --> 00:28:54,935 because she wants to look special. 468 00:28:55,002 --> 00:28:56,470 She's not trying to be beautiful. 469 00:28:56,538 --> 00:28:58,472 -I made those lashes by hand. 470 00:28:58,540 --> 00:29:02,309 They're long in the center and that lowers. 471 00:29:02,376 --> 00:29:04,111 Of course, she had naturally big eyes. 472 00:29:04,178 --> 00:29:05,846 I just enhanced them. 473 00:29:05,913 --> 00:29:08,048 -The Liza lashes are iconic on their own terms, 474 00:29:08,115 --> 00:29:10,284 but never more than as Sally Bowles 475 00:29:10,351 --> 00:29:11,885 where it seems like each lash 476 00:29:11,952 --> 00:29:15,389 has like a black pearl at the end or something. 477 00:29:15,456 --> 00:29:18,593 It adds to the hyperrealism of the movie. 478 00:29:19,594 --> 00:29:21,195 -She needed to be special. 479 00:29:21,262 --> 00:29:22,963 She needed to be special. 480 00:29:24,532 --> 00:29:25,966 - Sally Bowles! 481 00:29:29,738 --> 00:29:31,539 -When you think about Liza as a dancer 482 00:29:31,606 --> 00:29:35,710 before she worked with Fosse, she was girlish. 483 00:29:35,776 --> 00:29:38,479 If you look at footage of her on the Ed Sullivan Show- 484 00:29:38,546 --> 00:29:40,548 -Liza Minnelli. -She was clearly 485 00:29:40,615 --> 00:29:43,551 very talented, but she was kind of gangly 486 00:29:43,618 --> 00:29:45,052 and all over the place. 487 00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,523 Fosse brought a kind of discipline 488 00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:50,592 and focus to her dancing 489 00:29:50,659 --> 00:29:53,994 that made her just shine like a jewel. 490 00:29:54,061 --> 00:29:55,597 -I have a a back problem. 491 00:29:55,664 --> 00:29:57,231 Every time I pick anything up 492 00:29:57,298 --> 00:29:59,500 and have to be very kind of calm, 493 00:29:59,567 --> 00:30:01,835 it would go like this. 494 00:30:01,902 --> 00:30:03,170 They had to glue everything down 495 00:30:03,237 --> 00:30:05,105 for me so it wouldn't rattle. 496 00:30:05,172 --> 00:30:09,209 -Sometimes the muscles would tremble even from the rear. 497 00:30:09,276 --> 00:30:10,944 You know, she'd be acting very calm 498 00:30:11,011 --> 00:30:12,547 and you look at her rear... 499 00:30:16,618 --> 00:30:18,753 -Fosse was such fun to work with 500 00:30:18,819 --> 00:30:22,423 and a marvelous director, just knew what he wanted. 501 00:30:22,489 --> 00:30:24,458 Plus he knew what I could do. 502 00:30:28,763 --> 00:30:31,865 -He was smart enough to recognize 503 00:30:31,932 --> 00:30:33,568 what a hard worker she was, 504 00:30:33,635 --> 00:30:36,470 how the talent just oozed from her. 505 00:30:36,538 --> 00:30:40,274 ♪ Have to understand the way I am, mein herr ♪ 506 00:30:40,341 --> 00:30:43,477 -He used the quirkiness of her body movements, 507 00:30:43,545 --> 00:30:46,447 the quirkiness of her torso to her advantage 508 00:30:46,514 --> 00:30:49,883 and presented her really in a new and fascinating way. 509 00:30:49,950 --> 00:30:55,022 ♪ Bye-bye my leiberherr ♪ 510 00:30:57,224 --> 00:31:02,129 ♪ Farewell my lieberherr ♪ 511 00:31:02,196 --> 00:31:06,233 ♪ It was a fine affair ♪ 512 00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:08,837 ♪ But now it's over ♪ 513 00:31:08,902 --> 00:31:11,506 -She has this enormous amount of talent 514 00:31:11,573 --> 00:31:12,940 that all you have to do is push a button 515 00:31:13,006 --> 00:31:14,341 or make a slight suggestion and she said, 516 00:31:14,408 --> 00:31:15,909 "Oh, I know, I know." 517 00:31:15,976 --> 00:31:17,779 Or she's overdoing something 518 00:31:17,846 --> 00:31:20,849 and I think sometimes Liza tends to be over emotional. 519 00:31:20,914 --> 00:31:22,684 You just have to say, "Liza, pull back a little." 520 00:31:22,751 --> 00:31:25,520 And it's just like some beautiful machine. 521 00:31:25,587 --> 00:31:27,689 She just knows how much to pull back. 522 00:31:29,223 --> 00:31:32,960 ♪ The continent of Europe is so wide, mein herr ♪ 523 00:31:33,026 --> 00:31:36,964 ♪ Not only up and down, but side to side, mein herr ♪ 524 00:31:37,030 --> 00:31:39,634 -There's definitely the times when she lets the tidal wave 525 00:31:39,701 --> 00:31:43,538 flow and it's thrilling, but in this very controlled way. 526 00:31:43,605 --> 00:31:46,641 ♪ But I do what I can ♪ 527 00:31:46,708 --> 00:31:50,010 ♪ Inch by inch, step by step ♪ 528 00:31:50,077 --> 00:31:52,547 ♪ Mile by mile ♪ 529 00:31:52,614 --> 00:31:54,915 -When she gets to the like "man by man" 530 00:31:56,250 --> 00:31:59,654 and it's just so like lascivious. 531 00:31:59,721 --> 00:32:02,222 ♪ Man by man ♪ 532 00:32:05,593 --> 00:32:07,327 -I mean it's Liza doing 533 00:32:07,394 --> 00:32:09,296 what Liza does that no one else does 534 00:32:09,363 --> 00:32:12,734 and it's Liza doing it better than Liza has ever done. 535 00:32:23,778 --> 00:32:26,548 -Divine decadence. I'm Sally Bowles. 536 00:32:26,614 --> 00:32:29,216 -You worry for her because she's making mistakes 537 00:32:29,283 --> 00:32:31,418 and making demands of herself 538 00:32:31,485 --> 00:32:34,556 and others that are going to just lead to a bad place. 539 00:32:34,622 --> 00:32:35,623 -Brian. 540 00:32:37,291 --> 00:32:38,660 I really do love you. 541 00:32:40,595 --> 00:32:41,930 -I think you do love me. 542 00:32:43,464 --> 00:32:45,399 -But you're never fed up with her. 543 00:32:45,466 --> 00:32:48,770 You never stop worrying about her and you never stop caring. 544 00:32:48,837 --> 00:32:53,040 ♪ What good is sitting alone in your room ♪ 545 00:32:53,106 --> 00:32:56,210 ♪ Come hear the music play ♪ 546 00:32:58,011 --> 00:33:01,081 -The film comes out, it's universally acclaimed 547 00:33:01,148 --> 00:33:04,384 as great art immediately, immediately, 548 00:33:04,451 --> 00:33:07,555 and the film becomes a tremendous box office success. 549 00:33:07,622 --> 00:33:09,356 ♪ The book and the gloom ♪ 550 00:33:09,423 --> 00:33:13,895 ♪ It's time for a holiday ♪ 551 00:33:13,962 --> 00:33:15,362 ♪ Life is a cabaret ♪ 552 00:33:15,429 --> 00:33:18,232 Liza Minnelli. 553 00:33:18,298 --> 00:33:21,235 ♪ Come to the cabaret ♪ 554 00:33:21,301 --> 00:33:24,004 -I would like to thank Mr. Fosse 555 00:33:25,038 --> 00:33:27,942 and Fred Ebb and John Kander. 556 00:33:28,008 --> 00:33:29,878 Thank you for giving me this award. 557 00:33:29,944 --> 00:33:31,946 You've made me very happy. 558 00:33:35,282 --> 00:33:39,721 -She was immediately then a huge star after "Cabaret." 559 00:33:39,787 --> 00:33:42,991 That was like everybody wanted to be with Liza. 560 00:33:45,025 --> 00:33:47,027 Everybody wanted her at their parties. 561 00:33:48,563 --> 00:33:51,533 She was getting offered better and better movies, 562 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,371 better boyfriends. ♪ Cabaret ♪ 563 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,677 - It was a big deal. 564 00:34:11,886 --> 00:34:15,289 - Let's talk about relationships, marriages. 565 00:34:15,355 --> 00:34:19,627 - Give me a gay break, will ya? 566 00:34:19,694 --> 00:34:21,161 I'm sorry, cut that. 567 00:34:23,497 --> 00:34:25,365 Well, I feel wonderful about love 568 00:34:25,432 --> 00:34:30,404 because I wanted to be like it was in the songs, you know? 569 00:34:32,205 --> 00:34:35,643 -Okay, I think we should talk about men in our past lives. 570 00:34:35,710 --> 00:34:37,210 She's had a lot of men. 571 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,815 -How about you? -Excuse me. 572 00:34:40,882 --> 00:34:42,684 -No, I had men that nobody knew about. 573 00:34:42,750 --> 00:34:44,886 I knew about all her men. 574 00:34:44,953 --> 00:34:47,021 -And some of them weren't men at all. 575 00:34:51,059 --> 00:34:52,560 -I have to be careful here 'cause Liza 576 00:34:52,627 --> 00:34:55,395 doesn't wanna talk a lot about her relationships. 577 00:34:55,462 --> 00:34:57,065 It's a very private thing for her, 578 00:34:57,130 --> 00:34:59,634 yet many of these liaisons were very public. 579 00:34:59,701 --> 00:35:02,336 -She was taught by her MGM parents 580 00:35:02,402 --> 00:35:06,808 how to make things sound fantastic. 581 00:35:06,874 --> 00:35:11,946 Liza will never go on camera and talk about the dirt. 582 00:35:13,615 --> 00:35:17,852 -I can only say that she wanted to consume 583 00:35:17,919 --> 00:35:19,587 the fullness of life. 584 00:35:19,654 --> 00:35:21,923 I don't think she has any regrets in that area. 585 00:35:33,233 --> 00:35:35,168 -She loses all of her bearings 586 00:35:35,235 --> 00:35:37,839 and all of her judgment. 587 00:35:37,905 --> 00:35:41,042 This person, this is great, this is gonna be great. 588 00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:42,409 This is it. 589 00:35:45,412 --> 00:35:49,249 -She gets very into people very quickly 590 00:35:49,316 --> 00:35:52,954 so she's had some really unique relationships 591 00:35:53,021 --> 00:35:54,856 lasting a short period of time. 592 00:35:54,922 --> 00:35:57,725 She throws herself into the relationship 593 00:35:57,792 --> 00:36:01,529 with the same passion that she throws herself into a song, 594 00:36:01,596 --> 00:36:02,930 but then just like in a song, 595 00:36:02,997 --> 00:36:04,766 you then go on to the next song. 596 00:36:04,832 --> 00:36:08,301 -My engagement to Desi Arnaz has, 597 00:36:10,038 --> 00:36:12,239 well, the relationship has been deteriorating for some time. 598 00:36:12,305 --> 00:36:15,208 There is no more engagement, that's all called off. 599 00:36:16,476 --> 00:36:20,682 I also met a man called Peter Sellers 600 00:36:22,282 --> 00:36:24,085 and fell in love with him 601 00:36:24,152 --> 00:36:26,054 and a very pleased to say that he fell in love 602 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,955 with me too. 603 00:36:28,022 --> 00:36:29,557 -When you do get married, 604 00:36:29,624 --> 00:36:31,059 you'll be the fourth Mrs. Peter Sellers. 605 00:36:31,125 --> 00:36:33,561 Does this thought bother you at all? 606 00:36:33,628 --> 00:36:36,229 -Oh no, four is my lucky number, my dear. 607 00:36:37,330 --> 00:36:39,067 -Liza has acknowledged 608 00:36:39,133 --> 00:36:41,803 that she didn't always make the greatest decisions 609 00:36:41,869 --> 00:36:45,139 in relationships and laughs about it 610 00:36:45,205 --> 00:36:49,409 because there was genuine love, deep love in every one 611 00:36:49,476 --> 00:36:52,180 of those relationships in different ways. 612 00:36:54,048 --> 00:36:56,349 -And she said, "I wanna take a picture just for us." 613 00:36:56,416 --> 00:36:57,985 I said, "Okay, sure." 614 00:36:58,052 --> 00:37:00,188 So we got off my shirt she took off her blouse 615 00:37:00,253 --> 00:37:02,156 and we took the shot. 616 00:37:02,222 --> 00:37:06,359 What the photo is saying is exactly what was in my mind. 617 00:37:07,427 --> 00:37:08,428 I got you. 618 00:37:09,831 --> 00:37:11,966 Then next thing I know, it was in "Newsweek." 619 00:37:12,033 --> 00:37:16,504 Next thing I know it's all over the world. 620 00:37:18,740 --> 00:37:20,440 I'm sure a lot of society was shocked, 621 00:37:20,508 --> 00:37:23,644 but it never entered our bubble. 622 00:37:23,711 --> 00:37:28,783 It was two people were sharing a moment in time. 623 00:37:29,684 --> 00:37:31,318 It didn't stop to say, 624 00:37:31,384 --> 00:37:32,987 well, what does that white guy think about it? 625 00:37:33,054 --> 00:37:34,989 Or what's that black guy going to think about it? 626 00:37:35,056 --> 00:37:36,791 We didn't care. 627 00:37:36,858 --> 00:37:38,492 It was in our world. 628 00:37:43,131 --> 00:37:44,632 -No, you didn't. 629 00:37:57,578 --> 00:37:58,579 -Wow. 630 00:37:59,881 --> 00:38:00,848 Wow. 631 00:38:05,820 --> 00:38:06,821 Excuse me. 632 00:38:12,292 --> 00:38:13,895 I guess you'd call it love. 633 00:38:15,096 --> 00:38:16,329 I love Liza. 634 00:38:19,167 --> 00:38:20,168 That's my baby. 635 00:38:21,969 --> 00:38:25,072 -Some of these relationships didn't last as relationships, 636 00:38:25,139 --> 00:38:28,509 but many of them are long-lasting friendships 637 00:38:28,576 --> 00:38:29,544 over the years. 638 00:38:30,343 --> 00:38:33,346 ♪ Maybe this time ♪ 639 00:38:33,413 --> 00:38:37,051 ♪ For the first time ♪ 640 00:38:37,118 --> 00:38:40,521 ♪ Love won't hurry away ♪ 641 00:38:43,423 --> 00:38:44,859 -I tell you my favorite song 642 00:38:44,926 --> 00:38:46,594 that she sings is "Maybe this Time," 643 00:38:46,661 --> 00:38:50,264 and you felt when she was singing it, you know, 644 00:38:50,330 --> 00:38:54,702 you hoped that maybe this time would be the time 645 00:38:54,769 --> 00:38:57,238 because she sure deserved it. 646 00:38:57,305 --> 00:39:00,875 ♪ It's gotta happen ♪ 647 00:39:00,942 --> 00:39:04,111 ♪ Maybe sometime ♪ 648 00:39:04,178 --> 00:39:09,283 ♪ Maybe this time ♪ 649 00:39:10,151 --> 00:39:12,854 ♪ Maybe this time ♪ 650 00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:23,865 ♪ Real ♪ 651 00:39:29,837 --> 00:39:32,173 -Now been married twice with one divorce behind you, 652 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:35,509 and yet I wonder how you really have survived 653 00:39:35,576 --> 00:39:37,044 and how you really cope. 654 00:39:38,813 --> 00:39:41,315 -I was expecting all the pretty things that I'd heard about 655 00:39:42,884 --> 00:39:44,285 and I got a lot of them. 656 00:39:44,352 --> 00:39:46,954 -One time Judy Garland was on stage 657 00:39:47,021 --> 00:39:48,823 and somebody yelled out, "Marry me," 658 00:39:48,890 --> 00:39:52,293 and Garland said, "Marry you? With my track record?" 659 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,096 And that's kind of like Liza, the way she jokes. 660 00:39:55,162 --> 00:39:57,632 It's like, you know, my track record. 661 00:40:07,074 --> 00:40:10,443 -Peter Allen was so hilarious 662 00:40:10,511 --> 00:40:14,615 and so much fun to be with and he was so great on stage. 663 00:40:14,682 --> 00:40:16,851 -When Liza talks about Peter Allen to this day, 664 00:40:16,918 --> 00:40:19,954 she always talks about his talent, his incredible ability 665 00:40:20,021 --> 00:40:21,789 as a musician, as a composer. 666 00:40:22,823 --> 00:40:24,625 She was deeply in love with him 667 00:40:24,692 --> 00:40:27,460 and they in a certain way remained in love with each other 668 00:40:27,528 --> 00:40:28,963 for the rest of his life. 669 00:40:30,898 --> 00:40:34,702 -The happiest I saw her with somebody in her private life 670 00:40:34,769 --> 00:40:36,304 was with Peter Allen. 671 00:40:36,370 --> 00:40:38,706 But, you know, there were other elements. 672 00:40:40,574 --> 00:40:43,844 -She was truly devastated when she discovered Peter 673 00:40:43,911 --> 00:40:47,248 in a compromising situation with another man. 674 00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:50,017 And people always say, "How could she have not known?" 675 00:40:50,084 --> 00:40:51,152 She didn't know. 676 00:40:51,218 --> 00:40:52,954 I absolutely believe that. 677 00:40:54,155 --> 00:40:56,757 -I think that he felt restricted. 678 00:40:56,824 --> 00:40:58,926 He needed literally to come out. 679 00:41:03,931 --> 00:41:04,932 Oh, Jack. 680 00:41:10,671 --> 00:41:12,406 -When Liza married Jack Haley Jr, 681 00:41:12,472 --> 00:41:14,709 there was all this talk about the daughter of Dorothy 682 00:41:14,775 --> 00:41:16,911 marries the son of the Tin Man 683 00:41:16,978 --> 00:41:19,714 and they were a perfect match for each other in the sense 684 00:41:19,780 --> 00:41:21,916 that they both grew up in Hollywood 685 00:41:21,983 --> 00:41:25,553 and they had beautiful shorthand when they were together 686 00:41:25,619 --> 00:41:28,289 and had a great deal of fun. 687 00:41:28,356 --> 00:41:32,693 ♪ When love comes in and takes you for a spin ♪ 688 00:41:35,229 --> 00:41:38,265 -Larger than life, loved to have a good time, 689 00:41:38,332 --> 00:41:42,370 loved to hear wonderful stories, loved to gossip. 690 00:41:42,436 --> 00:41:45,973 He really, really loved my sister. 691 00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:51,412 -I mean, I love Jack and all, 692 00:41:51,479 --> 00:41:55,683 but I didn't think Jack was a good match for her, frankly. 693 00:42:00,187 --> 00:42:03,357 -In many ways, Mark Gero was Liza's most solid husband 694 00:42:03,424 --> 00:42:05,893 because Mark wasn't in show business. 695 00:42:07,294 --> 00:42:11,098 Mark was a sculptor and he was solid. 696 00:42:11,165 --> 00:42:13,000 He was a solid rock. 697 00:42:13,067 --> 00:42:16,804 -Mark was soulful in a way and Mark was quiet. 698 00:42:16,871 --> 00:42:21,976 I think that Mark was a form of stability that she needed. 699 00:42:27,381 --> 00:42:28,649 -That last husband of hers, 700 00:42:28,716 --> 00:42:31,352 I was at the wedding, oh my God. 701 00:42:36,190 --> 00:42:38,659 -When Liza met David Gest, we were with her. 702 00:42:38,726 --> 00:42:41,328 It was during a period of time in Liza's life 703 00:42:41,395 --> 00:42:44,632 when she wasn't doing so well physically. 704 00:42:44,698 --> 00:42:46,300 She'd gained a lot of weight 705 00:42:46,367 --> 00:42:50,505 and David Gest charmed her and romanced her. 706 00:42:50,571 --> 00:42:54,442 David Gest had a gift of gab, nothing was real, 707 00:42:54,509 --> 00:42:58,345 and basically for a while, took over her life. 708 00:42:58,412 --> 00:43:01,982 He took everybody in her life out of her life. 709 00:43:02,049 --> 00:43:04,652 -I never, I did not know him. 710 00:43:04,718 --> 00:43:09,790 I didn't know him and so I don't have a lot to say about him 711 00:43:10,758 --> 00:43:12,527 'cause I didn't know him. 712 00:43:12,593 --> 00:43:15,663 -It ended when Liza went on tour and she came back 713 00:43:15,729 --> 00:43:19,066 and David Gest took everything out of the apartment, 714 00:43:19,133 --> 00:43:20,801 left her with a bed and a lamp. 715 00:43:20,868 --> 00:43:22,670 There's a bed and one lamp. 716 00:43:22,736 --> 00:43:24,371 -Every picture was off the wall, everything was gone. 717 00:43:24,438 --> 00:43:25,840 -He took every picture, every piece of furniture, 718 00:43:25,906 --> 00:43:27,141 put it in storage. 719 00:43:27,208 --> 00:43:28,709 -Even her record albums. 720 00:43:28,776 --> 00:43:31,045 -Well, you know, he's not around anymore 721 00:43:31,112 --> 00:43:33,180 and I don't wanna speak ill of the dead. 722 00:43:33,247 --> 00:43:34,583 -Betty Davis said you should only speak 723 00:43:34,648 --> 00:43:36,150 good about the dead. 724 00:43:36,217 --> 00:43:37,818 Well David Gest is dead, good. 725 00:43:45,626 --> 00:43:49,564 -Ladies and gentlemen, not only the most talented 726 00:43:49,630 --> 00:43:53,200 and marvelous person I know, 727 00:43:53,267 --> 00:43:55,870 but my best and dearest friend, 728 00:43:55,936 --> 00:44:01,008 and if it weren't for him, I wouldn't be here, Mr. Fred Ebb. 729 00:44:01,675 --> 00:44:02,476 -Fred Ebb. 730 00:44:08,916 --> 00:44:11,218 -I think Fred really invented me. 731 00:44:11,285 --> 00:44:12,621 He really did. 732 00:44:12,686 --> 00:44:16,223 He knew me so well and so deeply. 733 00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:27,968 ♪ For every man there's a woman ♪ 734 00:44:28,035 --> 00:44:30,037 ♪ For every life there's a fan ♪ 735 00:44:30,104 --> 00:44:32,973 -Was she like everybody who starts, I think was, 736 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,510 was imitating everybody and not, 737 00:44:36,810 --> 00:44:38,779 she needed a style of her own. 738 00:44:38,846 --> 00:44:41,048 So out of that came my opinion that she 739 00:44:41,115 --> 00:44:43,984 should just be who she is, which is terrific. 740 00:44:44,051 --> 00:44:45,419 -He was a complicated guy. 741 00:44:45,486 --> 00:44:47,121 He was wonderful. 742 00:44:47,188 --> 00:44:49,456 He was incredibly funny, he was acerbic. 743 00:44:49,524 --> 00:44:51,292 He could have very dark sense of humor 744 00:44:51,358 --> 00:44:53,360 and his alter ego was Liza. 745 00:44:55,029 --> 00:44:57,164 He helped to expand things in her 746 00:44:57,231 --> 00:44:59,500 that she didn't even see in herself. 747 00:44:59,568 --> 00:45:02,736 -And it really started with a song, the first piece 748 00:45:02,803 --> 00:45:06,073 of a special material that Freddy ever wrote for me 749 00:45:06,140 --> 00:45:07,975 with Johnny, John Kander. 750 00:45:08,042 --> 00:45:10,010 Of course it was "Liza with a Z." 751 00:45:10,077 --> 00:45:13,214 -I mean, he wanted to be Liza in a certain way. 752 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,082 I mean, he wanted to be that persona. 753 00:45:15,149 --> 00:45:16,618 He wanted to be that performer 754 00:45:16,685 --> 00:45:18,852 and he was able to channel certain aspects 755 00:45:18,919 --> 00:45:20,921 of himself through her. 756 00:45:20,988 --> 00:45:22,356 -Would you sing it? -Me? 757 00:45:22,423 --> 00:45:23,592 -Oh yeah. Freddy, everybody. 758 00:45:23,658 --> 00:45:25,092 -You sing it. -Yeah. 759 00:45:27,328 --> 00:45:29,029 ♪ It's Liza with a Z, not Lisa with an S ♪ 760 00:45:29,096 --> 00:45:31,131 ♪ 'Cause Lisa with an S goes /s/, not /z/ ♪ 761 00:45:31,198 --> 00:45:33,133 ♪ It's Z instead of S, Li instead of Le ♪ 762 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,169 ♪ Simple as can be, see Liza ♪ 763 00:45:35,236 --> 00:45:37,606 ♪ Now if my name were Ada ♪ 764 00:45:37,672 --> 00:45:40,808 ♪ I'd be Ada even backwards I'd be Ada ♪ 765 00:45:40,874 --> 00:45:42,476 ♪ Or if my name were Ruth ♪ 766 00:45:42,544 --> 00:45:44,178 ♪ Then I'd be Ruth because it's Ruth ♪ 767 00:45:44,245 --> 00:45:45,813 ♪ What can you do ♪ 768 00:45:45,879 --> 00:45:49,618 ♪ Or Sally or Margaret or Ginger Mofet ♪ 769 00:45:49,684 --> 00:45:51,385 ♪ But when you're a Liza ♪ 770 00:45:51,452 --> 00:45:53,487 ♪ You always have to say ♪ 771 00:45:53,555 --> 00:45:55,624 ♪ It's Liza with a Z, not Lisa with an S ♪ 772 00:45:55,690 --> 00:45:58,459 ♪ 'Cause Lisa with an S goes /s/, not /z/ ♪ 773 00:46:04,098 --> 00:46:05,966 -It's a whole song about how people say your name wrong. 774 00:46:06,033 --> 00:46:08,168 - That's right, guys. 775 00:46:08,235 --> 00:46:11,305 ♪ Or Minoli or Miniola or Mineli or Minelai ♪ 776 00:46:11,372 --> 00:46:14,908 ♪ So is it a wonder I very often cry, sing it ♪ 777 00:46:19,046 --> 00:46:20,682 - The way Freddy wrote his lyrics, 778 00:46:20,749 --> 00:46:23,050 it was like somebody talking to you. 779 00:46:23,117 --> 00:46:24,818 ♪ Liza Minnelli ♪ 780 00:46:24,885 --> 00:46:28,055 ♪ It's Italian, blame it on Papa ♪ 781 00:46:28,122 --> 00:46:30,991 -And I know how to do a lyric. 782 00:46:31,058 --> 00:46:33,193 The words are so important. 783 00:46:35,162 --> 00:46:39,166 -Fred and I were brought together, I guess it was 1962, 784 00:46:39,233 --> 00:46:42,671 by our publisher and our backgrounds were very different. 785 00:46:42,737 --> 00:46:45,873 I come from Kansas City and a family background 786 00:46:45,939 --> 00:46:48,008 which was considerably more placid. 787 00:46:48,075 --> 00:46:53,113 That being said, when Fred and I went in the room to write, 788 00:46:55,182 --> 00:46:58,852 we immediately became one person 789 00:47:00,321 --> 00:47:02,590 and that was true really till the day he died. 790 00:47:02,657 --> 00:47:04,358 - Here are the composer and lyricist, 791 00:47:04,425 --> 00:47:07,961 John Kander and Fred Ebb. 792 00:47:08,028 --> 00:47:09,631 -They were professional, 793 00:47:09,698 --> 00:47:11,599 but they were also godfathers kind of to her. 794 00:47:11,666 --> 00:47:16,036 I mean, they were really close and key in her creative life 795 00:47:16,103 --> 00:47:19,273 and therefore, you know, in in her heart and soul. 796 00:47:22,343 --> 00:47:26,815 -Liza first came into our lives on a cloudy afternoon 797 00:47:28,048 --> 00:47:30,484 when we were working on the score 798 00:47:30,552 --> 00:47:31,786 for "Flora the Red Menace." 799 00:47:31,852 --> 00:47:34,488 We were very close to casting 800 00:47:34,556 --> 00:47:37,424 and that afternoon the doorbell rang 801 00:47:37,491 --> 00:47:40,060 and there was this person. 802 00:47:40,127 --> 00:47:43,130 -And I came in and said, 803 00:47:44,699 --> 00:47:46,233 "Do you have any songs that I could sing, please? 804 00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:48,135 So may I please sing some of your songs?" 805 00:47:48,202 --> 00:47:50,137 -That's right, I remember what you wore. 806 00:47:50,204 --> 00:47:52,973 -What did I wear? -Jeans, 807 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,010 and an old ratty sort of turtleneck, a black turtleneck 808 00:47:57,077 --> 00:48:00,682 and it had a hole in it, which I stared at. 809 00:48:01,982 --> 00:48:03,250 And you were biting your nails 810 00:48:03,317 --> 00:48:04,918 and I said, "God, she's cute." 811 00:48:07,488 --> 00:48:10,592 -Just for fun, we went through all the songs in "Flora" 812 00:48:10,658 --> 00:48:13,961 and she nailed it instantly 813 00:48:14,027 --> 00:48:18,499 and she became right then and there the person 814 00:48:18,566 --> 00:48:20,602 that we wanted to play that part. 815 00:48:22,369 --> 00:48:26,741 She never stopped being a major player in both of our lives. 816 00:48:28,275 --> 00:48:33,380 ♪ Some peppy melody about rainbows blending ♪ 817 00:48:34,783 --> 00:48:36,584 -Liza had a lot to learn, 818 00:48:38,085 --> 00:48:40,588 but she had the thing that you can't teach. 819 00:48:42,857 --> 00:48:46,960 -She just gave her all to Freddy, 820 00:48:47,027 --> 00:48:51,833 and in doing so, she blossomed. 821 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:54,968 -Well, he was also very parenting to Liza. 822 00:48:55,035 --> 00:48:56,738 And he would tell her if she did something wrong, 823 00:48:56,805 --> 00:48:58,706 he didn't hold back. 824 00:48:58,773 --> 00:49:01,041 He would say, "You can't do that." 825 00:49:01,108 --> 00:49:02,811 -My friend, my big brother. 826 00:49:04,311 --> 00:49:06,380 He bawled me out when I needed it, you know? 827 00:49:06,447 --> 00:49:07,816 And he told me how to sing a lyric 828 00:49:07,882 --> 00:49:09,416 so that it was believable. 829 00:49:09,483 --> 00:49:11,318 You could just be yourself. 830 00:49:12,419 --> 00:49:14,254 That's all you had to be. 831 00:49:14,321 --> 00:49:15,890 And Freddy taught me that. 832 00:49:15,989 --> 00:49:20,595 He said, "The minute you think you're acting, 833 00:49:20,662 --> 00:49:22,496 then people think you're acting." 834 00:49:22,564 --> 00:49:24,998 I said, "Yeah, you're right." 835 00:49:25,065 --> 00:49:27,201 -There's nothing about you that's unattainable 836 00:49:27,267 --> 00:49:30,672 which is why I think you're as great a star as you are. 837 00:49:30,738 --> 00:49:34,174 All those people care about you and your vulnerability 838 00:49:34,241 --> 00:49:37,846 and there's a humanity about you when you walk out. 839 00:49:37,912 --> 00:49:41,381 ♪ When you see me ♪ 840 00:49:41,448 --> 00:49:44,117 ♪ Hobbin nobbing on the top of the town ♪ 841 00:49:44,184 --> 00:49:46,186 ♪ My emeralds weighing me down ♪ 842 00:49:46,253 --> 00:49:51,091 -And I would do something and Freddy would put up his hand 843 00:49:51,158 --> 00:49:52,493 and they'd cut. 844 00:49:53,862 --> 00:49:56,196 And Freddy come over and whisper to me, 845 00:49:56,263 --> 00:49:57,932 "Hold your head up a little higher 846 00:49:57,998 --> 00:50:00,367 like you were saying something really important." 847 00:50:00,434 --> 00:50:04,238 I'd go, "Mm-hmm." 848 00:50:04,304 --> 00:50:07,207 And then I'd hold my head up higher. 849 00:50:07,274 --> 00:50:10,612 -With Fred, it was a very close offstage relationship 850 00:50:10,678 --> 00:50:13,413 and a very close professional relationship 851 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,016 and the two very much melded together. 852 00:50:17,217 --> 00:50:19,988 -So he would steer me away 853 00:50:20,053 --> 00:50:24,424 from talking about my mom too much. 854 00:50:24,491 --> 00:50:26,059 He said because when that happens, 855 00:50:26,126 --> 00:50:28,295 they think about her and not you. 856 00:50:30,330 --> 00:50:31,833 - Liza, I realized you must have learned 857 00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:33,801 a lot of things by watching your mother. 858 00:50:35,068 --> 00:50:36,671 -She was very proud of her mother, 859 00:50:36,738 --> 00:50:41,676 but it was such a complicated relationship. 860 00:50:43,410 --> 00:50:45,580 -Liza used to talk about being at the London Palladium 861 00:50:45,647 --> 00:50:47,481 with her mom in '64. 862 00:50:47,549 --> 00:50:49,449 That was a defining moment for her. 863 00:50:54,321 --> 00:50:56,858 She came on stage and she started 864 00:50:56,925 --> 00:51:00,028 to get this extraordinary reaction from the audience. 865 00:51:17,045 --> 00:51:19,479 Her mom got pissed. 866 00:51:22,717 --> 00:51:26,654 Judy's pushing the microphone up to Liza's face to show 867 00:51:26,721 --> 00:51:29,557 that she's the professional and Liza's the amateur. 868 00:51:30,658 --> 00:51:32,125 And suddenly Liza said, 869 00:51:32,192 --> 00:51:33,795 "My mother went from being my mother 870 00:51:33,861 --> 00:51:35,830 and turned into Judy Garland." 871 00:51:35,897 --> 00:51:38,866 That was a defining moment for Liza. 872 00:51:38,933 --> 00:51:43,170 -Fred understood being always compared to Judy 873 00:51:43,236 --> 00:51:44,639 made her feel terrible. 874 00:51:44,706 --> 00:51:46,574 -Give me your sketch of your mom. 875 00:51:46,641 --> 00:51:48,042 -Your mother. -Your mother. 876 00:51:48,108 --> 00:51:49,644 -Your mother. -Your wonderful mother. 877 00:51:49,711 --> 00:51:51,244 -If I could walk you down your mother's 878 00:51:51,311 --> 00:51:53,213 old yellow brick road, take you to the wizard, 879 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,383 what would be the one wish for yourself that you'd make? 880 00:51:58,218 --> 00:51:59,053 -That you wouldn't ask me another question about my mother. 881 00:52:03,925 --> 00:52:05,526 -I think it was the night of her club act 882 00:52:05,593 --> 00:52:07,028 that we did for her. 883 00:52:11,633 --> 00:52:16,070 Because I can remember Liza sitting in front of the mirror 884 00:52:16,136 --> 00:52:19,774 and she was terrified because Judy 885 00:52:19,841 --> 00:52:21,743 was coming out to the show 886 00:52:23,310 --> 00:52:28,116 and it was Liza at her most unhappy and insecure. 887 00:52:29,784 --> 00:52:34,789 And Judy is there telling Liza how wonderful she is, 888 00:52:36,189 --> 00:52:37,859 but also patting her on the legs saying, 889 00:52:37,925 --> 00:52:40,928 "This is what we've always wanted, isn't it baby?" 890 00:52:45,767 --> 00:52:49,704 And I cannot explain to you why that was the wrong thing 891 00:52:49,771 --> 00:52:54,842 to say, but it took the evening away from Liza. 892 00:53:01,516 --> 00:53:04,184 -Fred helped her evolve from the daughter 893 00:53:04,251 --> 00:53:05,887 of Judy Garland legacy 894 00:53:05,953 --> 00:53:09,356 to the sequin amazing performer on her own. 895 00:53:10,758 --> 00:53:12,894 You can see the beginnings of all of that 896 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,294 in "Liza with a Z." 897 00:53:24,138 --> 00:53:27,809 -I was asked to do a television special and Fred Ebb said, 898 00:53:27,875 --> 00:53:31,311 "I wanna do the first concert for television. 899 00:53:33,047 --> 00:53:35,348 It's never been done before and I want Bobby to do it." 900 00:53:36,918 --> 00:53:38,786 -This is a concert in the medium of television, 901 00:53:38,853 --> 00:53:43,725 the small screen, which it could be dangerous, you know, 902 00:53:43,791 --> 00:53:46,828 in that some entertainers are not good on television 903 00:53:46,894 --> 00:53:48,663 because they're larger than life on stage. 904 00:53:51,099 --> 00:53:53,868 -It was for one night, it's one shot only. 905 00:53:53,935 --> 00:53:56,269 It was amazing, it was nerve wracking. 906 00:53:58,005 --> 00:54:00,307 I walked out there like I didn't have a care in the world 907 00:54:00,373 --> 00:54:02,110 and I don't know where I got the bravado. 908 00:54:02,176 --> 00:54:04,846 I don't know anything except that I was felt safe. 909 00:54:04,912 --> 00:54:07,682 ♪ I gotcha, uh-huh ♪ 910 00:54:07,749 --> 00:54:10,985 ♪ You thought I didn't see you now, didn't ya, uh-huh ♪ 911 00:54:11,052 --> 00:54:14,555 ♪ You tried to sneak by me now, didn't ya, uh-huh ♪ 912 00:54:14,622 --> 00:54:16,023 ♪ Now gimme what you promised to me ♪ 913 00:54:16,090 --> 00:54:19,794 ♪ Give it to me, come on ♪ 914 00:54:19,861 --> 00:54:21,863 -I thought it was absolutely phenomenal. 915 00:54:21,929 --> 00:54:25,800 Definitely a new way of doing things. 916 00:54:28,536 --> 00:54:30,538 ♪ Blackbird ♪ 917 00:54:30,605 --> 00:54:33,741 -So the Liza in "Liza with a Z" certainly has elements 918 00:54:33,808 --> 00:54:37,344 of the real Liza, but the Liza with the hat 919 00:54:37,410 --> 00:54:41,549 and with the sequin and this certain kind of persona 920 00:54:41,616 --> 00:54:45,553 is a character who is Liza, 921 00:54:45,620 --> 00:54:48,523 but also is a different person. 922 00:54:48,589 --> 00:54:53,194 ♪ Where somebody waits for me, Sugar's sweet ♪ 923 00:54:53,261 --> 00:54:54,929 ♪ So is he ♪ 924 00:54:54,996 --> 00:54:57,698 -What Fred Ebb did in collaboration with her 925 00:54:57,765 --> 00:55:01,202 is to take anything that was unpolished 926 00:55:01,269 --> 00:55:05,438 and awkward about Liza, Judy's daughter 927 00:55:05,506 --> 00:55:07,575 trying to make it in show business, 928 00:55:07,642 --> 00:55:12,747 and either polish it or embrace the vulnerabilities. 929 00:55:23,624 --> 00:55:27,595 And she knew exactly how to mine that 930 00:55:27,662 --> 00:55:29,197 for everything it's worth. 931 00:55:29,263 --> 00:55:31,632 ♪ Fly little blackbird, bye ♪ 932 00:55:31,699 --> 00:55:33,366 -When she worked with Fred Ebb, 933 00:55:34,836 --> 00:55:37,104 he rehearsed her where every single speech 934 00:55:37,171 --> 00:55:40,373 and every single thing she said on stage was rehearsed, 935 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,744 even though it sounded incredibly spontaneous. 936 00:55:43,811 --> 00:55:46,747 -The one time that I got a little snippy, 937 00:55:46,814 --> 00:55:49,917 I was sitting around, I said, "I don't wanna do that, 938 00:55:49,984 --> 00:55:51,819 I don't wanna do this tonight," or something like that. 939 00:55:51,886 --> 00:55:55,089 And Fred Ebb said, "Liza, just remember, 940 00:55:55,156 --> 00:55:57,457 you're a figment of my imagination." 941 00:55:57,525 --> 00:55:59,260 And it just so happens that I told a couple of friends 942 00:55:59,327 --> 00:56:01,329 of mine this truly terrific, absolutely true story. 943 00:56:01,394 --> 00:56:02,797 And it just so happened 944 00:56:02,864 --> 00:56:04,665 these friends of mine are songwriters. 945 00:56:04,732 --> 00:56:09,804 -Any singer knows you got to tell the story 946 00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:11,973 in your singing. 947 00:56:12,039 --> 00:56:14,441 ♪ Gather around I got a story to tell ♪ 948 00:56:14,508 --> 00:56:18,913 ♪ About a Manhattan lady that I know very well ♪ 949 00:56:18,980 --> 00:56:21,015 ♪ She lives at 5 Riverside ♪ 950 00:56:21,082 --> 00:56:23,017 ♪ Her name is Shirley Divor ♪ 951 00:56:23,084 --> 00:56:24,986 ♪ And she traveled round the world ♪ 952 00:56:25,052 --> 00:56:27,188 ♪ To meet the guy next door ♪ 953 00:56:27,255 --> 00:56:28,923 -She's done up in Halston, 954 00:56:28,990 --> 00:56:31,525 who's not just making her look fabulous, 955 00:56:31,592 --> 00:56:33,460 but making her look iconic. 956 00:56:33,527 --> 00:56:36,597 I mean really capturing what will be Liza's look 957 00:56:36,664 --> 00:56:38,099 for the rest of her life. 958 00:56:38,165 --> 00:56:41,936 ♪ Ring that bell ♪ 959 00:56:50,378 --> 00:56:53,614 -Liza proved with "Liza with a Z" 960 00:56:53,681 --> 00:56:56,884 that she was equally iconic on the small screen. 961 00:56:59,053 --> 00:57:01,722 And she did that with Fred Ebb. 962 00:57:14,802 --> 00:57:17,538 - It was like living in the inside of a diamond. 963 00:57:17,605 --> 00:57:19,974 We won the Emmy for "Liza with a Z," 964 00:57:20,041 --> 00:57:22,243 the Oscar for "Cabaret." 965 00:57:22,310 --> 00:57:24,345 It was a very good year. 966 00:57:33,421 --> 00:57:36,757 ♪ Start spreading the news ♪ 967 00:57:36,824 --> 00:57:40,828 ♪ I'm leaving today ♪ 968 00:57:40,895 --> 00:57:44,865 ♪ I wanna be a part of it ♪ 969 00:57:44,932 --> 00:57:49,437 ♪ New York, New York ♪ 970 00:57:49,502 --> 00:57:53,607 ♪ These vagabond shoes ♪ 971 00:57:53,674 --> 00:57:56,844 ♪ Are longing to stray ♪ 972 00:57:56,911 --> 00:57:59,747 -Liza chose to make a film called "New York, New York," 973 00:57:59,814 --> 00:58:01,682 which is a more traditional musical 974 00:58:01,749 --> 00:58:05,619 that is an homage to the 1940s, directed by Martin Scorsese, 975 00:58:05,686 --> 00:58:07,688 co-starring Robert De Niro. 976 00:58:07,755 --> 00:58:12,827 ♪ Cream of the crop at the top of the heap ♪ 977 00:58:13,861 --> 00:58:16,697 ♪ Those little town blues ♪ 978 00:58:22,803 --> 00:58:24,905 -And it was De Niro who heard the first version 979 00:58:24,972 --> 00:58:26,741 of "New York, New York" that Kander and Ebb wrote 980 00:58:26,807 --> 00:58:28,442 and said, "Nah, I don't like that. 981 00:58:28,509 --> 00:58:30,711 Go back and write something else." 982 00:58:30,778 --> 00:58:33,414 And can I tell you how pissed John Kander 983 00:58:33,481 --> 00:58:35,616 and Fred Ebb were that Robert De Niro 984 00:58:35,683 --> 00:58:38,119 is telling them they have to write another song? 985 00:58:38,185 --> 00:58:41,555 And out of anger, they wrote this second song 986 00:58:41,622 --> 00:58:45,026 that became the iconic "New York, New York" that we know. 987 00:58:46,394 --> 00:58:49,230 -In case you don't know this, folks, 988 00:58:49,296 --> 00:58:52,967 this little girl did this song before anybody did this song. 989 00:58:53,034 --> 00:58:54,835 It's true, she really did. 990 00:58:54,902 --> 00:58:56,670 And I had to stick my nose in it. 991 00:59:40,515 --> 00:59:42,483 Jack and I got stuck in here once. 992 00:59:42,551 --> 00:59:44,585 - Looks like one of those outer space things. 993 00:59:44,652 --> 00:59:47,522 -What? Stand on that? 994 00:59:47,588 --> 00:59:50,324 Like I always get off an airplane like that, huh? 995 00:59:50,391 --> 00:59:53,294 Oh my God, we're somewhere, let's put it that way. 996 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,662 - Hey, Lisa, Lisa. 997 00:59:54,728 --> 00:59:57,798 -It's Liza, you guys, it's Liza. 998 01:00:02,269 --> 01:00:05,372 -When she went to Europe in the 1970s after "Cabaret," 999 01:00:05,439 --> 01:00:06,907 after "Liza with a Z," 1000 01:00:08,409 --> 01:00:12,913 she was so busy working so hard and did so much, 1001 01:00:12,980 --> 01:00:14,915 people couldn't get enough of her. 1002 01:00:18,052 --> 01:00:20,087 - Liza Minnelli, queen of the glitter 1003 01:00:20,154 --> 01:00:23,390 and the glamour of the Hollywood, New York, European world. 1004 01:00:23,457 --> 01:00:25,126 Wherever she goes, 1005 01:00:25,192 --> 01:00:27,261 there are people smiling, flash bulbs popping. 1006 01:00:30,431 --> 01:00:32,333 A certifiable superstar. 1007 01:00:39,273 --> 01:00:41,775 And still the gossip people persist. 1008 01:00:46,581 --> 01:00:48,682 -Oh no, we can't. -Over there, over there. 1009 01:00:48,749 --> 01:00:51,685 - Let me go, Freddy. 1010 01:00:51,752 --> 01:00:55,022 -Liza has always said, "I was born, they took a picture," 1011 01:00:55,089 --> 01:00:58,425 so she understood how to deal with the press 1012 01:00:58,492 --> 01:01:00,060 from a very early age. 1013 01:01:02,531 --> 01:01:05,232 It's one of the loveliest thoughts 1014 01:01:05,299 --> 01:01:07,569 any woman could ever hold. 1015 01:01:07,636 --> 01:01:12,206 I'm not, but I hope with all my heart that I will be soon. 1016 01:01:12,273 --> 01:01:13,608 -Let me go in front here. 1017 01:01:14,842 --> 01:01:16,677 -Why don't you just wait a minute. 1018 01:01:21,182 --> 01:01:24,351 -Well, there's different degrees of ugliness, isn't there? 1019 01:01:26,220 --> 01:01:27,221 And 1020 01:01:30,457 --> 01:01:32,026 I don't really care. 1021 01:01:32,092 --> 01:01:34,061 You know, when I'm on stage, I just do my job. 1022 01:01:34,128 --> 01:01:37,898 -Liz Minnelli has lived her life so much in public. 1023 01:01:37,965 --> 01:01:40,535 The burden of that must be profound. 1024 01:01:40,602 --> 01:01:43,304 There's the demand she must show up as Liza Minnelli. 1025 01:01:43,370 --> 01:01:45,706 -I am really thrilled that they're all here. 1026 01:01:47,007 --> 01:01:48,643 It's a little bit scary though. 1027 01:01:50,545 --> 01:01:53,480 -I remember talking to her after a party 1028 01:01:53,548 --> 01:01:55,950 that she had been to and I said, "How was the party?" 1029 01:01:56,016 --> 01:01:59,019 And she said, "Oh, it was okay. They wanted her." 1030 01:01:59,086 --> 01:02:00,454 And I said, "What do you mean?" 1031 01:02:00,522 --> 01:02:02,122 She said, "You know, the sequin girl. 1032 01:02:02,189 --> 01:02:04,024 I just wanted to be, you know, 1033 01:02:04,091 --> 01:02:07,861 the nice lady at the dinner table and they wanted her." 1034 01:02:14,703 --> 01:02:18,472 -After the press, the photographs, the concerts, 1035 01:02:18,540 --> 01:02:22,544 the rehearsals, being on stage is her safety zone. 1036 01:02:22,611 --> 01:02:24,613 She is most comfortable there. 1037 01:02:29,517 --> 01:02:32,587 ♪ And as for me, ha ♪ 1038 01:02:44,865 --> 01:02:48,202 -Jesus, man, I wonder if they like it. 1039 01:02:48,269 --> 01:02:50,572 -Are they still yelling? -They're still screaming. 1040 01:02:50,639 --> 01:02:52,806 -Isn't that swell? 1041 01:02:52,873 --> 01:02:54,643 -There's nobody leaving the theater at all. 1042 01:02:54,709 --> 01:02:56,377 - They are just standing there, stomping. 1043 01:02:56,443 --> 01:02:59,313 You gotta go out and listen. 1044 01:03:01,882 --> 01:03:04,719 -Liza needs the audience to love her. 1045 01:03:13,595 --> 01:03:17,532 Maybe in someone else's hands that would be offputting, 1046 01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:21,035 but with Liza, it's that need 1047 01:03:21,101 --> 01:03:24,572 and that herculean effort to make the connection with us. 1048 01:03:24,639 --> 01:03:28,842 ♪ I need your love ♪ 1049 01:03:28,909 --> 01:03:32,846 ♪ That's true, yes, I do ♪ 1050 01:03:32,913 --> 01:03:34,716 ♪ Indeed, I do ♪ 1051 01:03:34,783 --> 01:03:36,850 ♪ You know I do ♪ 1052 01:03:36,917 --> 01:03:38,085 - How long have you been out there? 1053 01:03:38,152 --> 01:03:40,020 -Six hours. -Six hours? 1054 01:03:41,422 --> 01:03:44,191 ♪ What I cry for ♪ 1055 01:03:44,258 --> 01:03:48,697 ♪ You know you got that kind of lovin' ♪ 1056 01:03:48,763 --> 01:03:52,366 ♪ That I starve for ♪ 1057 01:03:52,433 --> 01:03:57,505 ♪ You know you made me ♪ 1058 01:04:01,475 --> 01:04:06,548 ♪ Love ♪ 1059 01:04:07,981 --> 01:04:09,883 ♪ You ♪ 1060 01:04:34,007 --> 01:04:38,245 -Liza deeply, deeply cares about friends. 1061 01:04:39,980 --> 01:04:42,449 If you need something, she is there for you on a level 1062 01:04:42,517 --> 01:04:44,184 that is rare. 1063 01:04:47,722 --> 01:04:52,192 She flew from Rome for two days to Los Angeles 1064 01:04:52,259 --> 01:04:54,763 to record a duet with me on one of my early albums 1065 01:04:54,829 --> 01:04:56,698 because she wanted to be there for me. 1066 01:04:56,765 --> 01:04:59,333 - We're backstage at the Muni. 1067 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:00,869 I'm going to see Michael. 1068 01:05:00,934 --> 01:05:03,370 Hans Christian Anderson. It's so exciting. 1069 01:05:03,437 --> 01:05:05,339 And this is a closeup, I promise you. 1070 01:05:05,406 --> 01:05:07,809 -It was something that was difficult 1071 01:05:07,876 --> 01:05:11,445 and it was at great financial expense, 1072 01:05:13,113 --> 01:05:15,048 but she was there because that's what a friend does. 1073 01:05:15,115 --> 01:05:18,452 It's that sort of thing that she will do anything 1074 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,320 for you if you need it. 1075 01:05:28,897 --> 01:05:33,967 I met Liza Minnelli through her godfather, Ira Gershwin. 1076 01:05:34,636 --> 01:05:36,336 When I met Liza, 1077 01:05:36,403 --> 01:05:38,338 it was very much like meeting a long lost cousin 1078 01:05:38,405 --> 01:05:40,742 or a sibling or a family member. 1079 01:05:49,584 --> 01:05:52,687 I remember when we met at her father's house, she said, 1080 01:05:52,754 --> 01:05:55,322 "You know, from now on we're joined at the hip." 1081 01:05:55,389 --> 01:05:58,392 - This is fabulous, oh, honey. 1082 01:05:58,459 --> 01:06:02,897 -I think if the public sees Liza as a barrel 1083 01:06:02,963 --> 01:06:06,768 of sequins and glamour, they've got her wrong. 1084 01:06:06,835 --> 01:06:10,404 Her friends, or the thing that those friends get right, 1085 01:06:10,471 --> 01:06:15,242 is Liza's vulnerability, her kindness, 1086 01:06:15,309 --> 01:06:20,147 and her desire for you to be friends with her. 1087 01:06:20,214 --> 01:06:22,617 -Liza, can make you feel like 1088 01:06:22,684 --> 01:06:24,853 the most important person in the world. 1089 01:06:24,919 --> 01:06:27,722 Her gaze is so fixed on you. 1090 01:06:27,789 --> 01:06:30,925 I don't know if it's her need to be loved, 1091 01:06:30,991 --> 01:06:35,395 but it's shocking 'cause that's an unusual quality 1092 01:06:35,462 --> 01:06:37,765 in somebody in show business. 1093 01:06:42,436 --> 01:06:44,572 - "Chicago," starring Gwen Verdon, Chita Rivera, 1094 01:06:44,639 --> 01:06:47,441 and Jerry Orbach, directed by Bob Fosse. 1095 01:06:48,643 --> 01:06:51,713 -In "Chicago," Gwen Verdon had to 1096 01:06:51,779 --> 01:06:56,083 take a six week leave of absence to have some surgery 1097 01:06:56,149 --> 01:07:01,221 and it looked as if maybe the show might have to close. 1098 01:07:02,624 --> 01:07:04,224 -And everything's going well, how are you? 1099 01:07:04,291 --> 01:07:06,728 And Fred said, "We're in terrible trouble." 1100 01:07:07,729 --> 01:07:09,463 I said, "I'll fill in for her." 1101 01:07:09,531 --> 01:07:12,800 -And it was the first time in Broadway history 1102 01:07:12,867 --> 01:07:17,471 that a major superstar acted as a substitute 1103 01:07:17,539 --> 01:07:20,173 for a another star that left. 1104 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,109 -They actually discovered her and said, "You're a star. 1105 01:07:22,175 --> 01:07:24,177 You can't be a substitute. You can't be an understudy." 1106 01:07:24,244 --> 01:07:25,647 And she says, "I wanna do it. I wanna save the show." 1107 01:07:25,713 --> 01:07:27,247 And she did, she saved the show. 1108 01:07:27,314 --> 01:07:29,483 -The people who wrote that show 1109 01:07:29,551 --> 01:07:30,919 are Fred Ebb and John Kander. 1110 01:07:30,985 --> 01:07:32,787 And as you know, they're my best friends 1111 01:07:32,854 --> 01:07:36,290 and Fred Ebb has guided my career since I've been 17. 1112 01:07:36,356 --> 01:07:40,695 It's really saying, "If you need somebody, I'm there." 1113 01:07:40,762 --> 01:07:44,766 -Liza learned that entire part in one week, 1114 01:07:44,832 --> 01:07:47,267 and I'm telling you one week. 1115 01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:51,839 -But she said, "You don't say my name. 1116 01:07:51,906 --> 01:07:53,508 I don't want publicity about that. 1117 01:07:53,575 --> 01:07:55,009 I want word of mouth. 1118 01:07:55,075 --> 01:07:56,243 And when people go into the theater, 1119 01:07:56,310 --> 01:07:57,879 I just want an announcement." 1120 01:07:57,946 --> 01:08:00,515 -I'm sorry, tonight the role of Roxy Hart, 1121 01:08:00,582 --> 01:08:05,687 usually played by Gwen Verdon, audience, "Oh.." 1122 01:08:06,688 --> 01:08:08,288 Will be played by Liza Minnelli. 1123 01:08:08,690 --> 01:08:11,059 Roars of excitement. 1124 01:08:11,124 --> 01:08:15,128 And Liza was fucking brilliant in the part. 1125 01:08:21,368 --> 01:08:22,971 What motivated her to do it, 1126 01:08:23,037 --> 01:08:27,508 I can only say is like the best part of Liza. 1127 01:08:27,575 --> 01:08:31,879 I think she did it as a favor and she saved the show. 1128 01:08:39,453 --> 01:08:41,154 -And the only reason she would do that 1129 01:08:41,221 --> 01:08:44,092 is because it was for her friends. 1130 01:08:48,428 --> 01:08:51,699 -When we met Liza, I was a dentist in New York. 1131 01:08:51,766 --> 01:08:54,002 Arlene was a housewife. 1132 01:08:54,068 --> 01:08:56,704 It was a dinner party at Elaine's restaurant 1133 01:08:56,771 --> 01:08:58,171 and we just hit it off. 1134 01:08:58,238 --> 01:09:01,075 It was a great chemistry, I would say. 1135 01:09:02,409 --> 01:09:03,511 -We just had a connection that we felt 1136 01:09:03,578 --> 01:09:05,046 great being with each other 1137 01:09:05,113 --> 01:09:06,781 and the conversation just kept flowing. 1138 01:09:06,848 --> 01:09:10,118 -49 years later, we're still best friends with her. 1139 01:09:12,252 --> 01:09:16,356 When she meets somebody, she is so warm to them 1140 01:09:16,423 --> 01:09:20,728 and friendly that people will meet her once or twice 1141 01:09:20,795 --> 01:09:24,098 and come away feeling she's their best friend. 1142 01:09:26,768 --> 01:09:28,136 -It's so real. I mean, she doesn't think 1143 01:09:28,201 --> 01:09:30,071 of herself as being a star. 1144 01:09:30,138 --> 01:09:32,472 She thinks of herself as the people around me made me a star 1145 01:09:32,540 --> 01:09:33,741 because I picked talented people. 1146 01:09:33,808 --> 01:09:35,475 She's really modest that way. 1147 01:09:40,982 --> 01:09:45,252 -Hi, Liza, it's me. -Baby! 1148 01:09:45,318 --> 01:09:47,254 -I hear you had a party last night. 1149 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:48,890 I wish I could have been there, 1150 01:09:48,956 --> 01:09:50,792 but I'm in Connecticut still, as you know. 1151 01:09:50,858 --> 01:09:53,561 -Oh no, but when you come out here, you're living here. 1152 01:09:53,628 --> 01:09:55,830 -I will be there. I will stay with you, of course. 1153 01:09:55,897 --> 01:09:57,431 It'll be like old times. 1154 01:09:57,497 --> 01:09:59,634 -We've been joined at the hips forever. 1155 01:09:59,701 --> 01:10:01,903 -We were in the same preschool, 1156 01:10:01,969 --> 01:10:05,205 but we really came together again as friends 1157 01:10:05,272 --> 01:10:06,941 when we were about 15. 1158 01:10:11,145 --> 01:10:14,414 We were in this photo shoot for "17 Magazine." 1159 01:10:14,481 --> 01:10:17,685 After the photo shoot, I was exhausted 1160 01:10:17,752 --> 01:10:21,321 and wanted to go get an ice cream cone or something. 1161 01:10:21,388 --> 01:10:23,457 Liza was going to her dance class. 1162 01:10:23,524 --> 01:10:27,795 She knew at 15 that this is what she wanted to do. 1163 01:10:27,862 --> 01:10:29,764 She wanted to sing, she wanted to dance. 1164 01:10:29,831 --> 01:10:32,066 She was gonna be a great actor. 1165 01:10:33,668 --> 01:10:36,838 Movie stars at the time, they didn't look like Liza, 1166 01:10:36,904 --> 01:10:40,174 but she never doubted that this is what she was gonna do. 1167 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,275 She was goal-oriented. 1168 01:10:45,113 --> 01:10:48,015 I know a lot of people who've been through a lot of stuff 1169 01:10:48,082 --> 01:10:51,351 and people get cynical, people get angry, 1170 01:10:51,418 --> 01:10:56,524 but Liza's the same pure person inside. 1171 01:10:57,959 --> 01:11:00,161 I've not heard her say bad things about anyone, 1172 01:11:00,228 --> 01:11:01,729 not in any gratuitous way. 1173 01:11:01,796 --> 01:11:05,666 She trusts way beyond what is rational. 1174 01:11:05,733 --> 01:11:10,403 There is a purity of heart that's unmistakable. 1175 01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:11,606 -Bye, darling. 1176 01:11:24,118 --> 01:11:27,021 -So I'm out with my wife, Michael Feinstein, 1177 01:11:27,088 --> 01:11:29,924 Mitzi Gaynor, and Liza fucking Minnelli. 1178 01:11:29,991 --> 01:11:31,893 Michael goes, "Let's play a song." 1179 01:11:31,959 --> 01:11:35,663 And so he plays one and I sing a tune. 1180 01:11:42,402 --> 01:11:46,007 And then it was Liza's turn. 1181 01:11:47,942 --> 01:11:50,545 This is like incredible, I'm sitting with this icon 1182 01:11:50,611 --> 01:11:53,380 and it was beautiful what she sang. 1183 01:11:58,418 --> 01:12:01,222 At the end of the night, she's grabbing everybody 1184 01:12:01,289 --> 01:12:03,224 and just saying, you know, this was, I can't do, 1185 01:12:03,291 --> 01:12:04,859 I'm not gonna do a Liza impersonation, 1186 01:12:04,926 --> 01:12:06,561 don't make me do that. But she, you know, 1187 01:12:06,627 --> 01:12:08,428 she's grabbing everybody and goes, "This was great. 1188 01:12:08,495 --> 01:12:13,134 This is great. This is the gang now, this is the gang." 1189 01:12:14,702 --> 01:12:17,104 And when she left I was like, "I'm in the gang now? 1190 01:12:17,171 --> 01:12:18,739 It's amazing." And then I went, 1191 01:12:18,806 --> 01:12:21,209 "How many people has she said that to?" 1192 01:12:21,275 --> 01:12:24,612 I just like the idea that she just made us feel so special. 1193 01:12:24,679 --> 01:12:29,517 I so enjoyed that sentiment of this was a good hang. 1194 01:12:37,457 --> 01:12:38,893 -It's gonna take a miracle. 1195 01:12:40,561 --> 01:12:42,063 Tina. -Yeah? 1196 01:12:42,129 --> 01:12:43,898 -Gotta perform a miracle on my fache. 1197 01:12:45,299 --> 01:12:46,834 -Liza and I became very close friends 1198 01:12:46,901 --> 01:12:50,605 because my husband and I went on tour with her 1199 01:12:50,671 --> 01:12:53,941 and of course they did many movies with her 1200 01:12:54,008 --> 01:12:55,943 and you couldn't help with Liza. 1201 01:12:56,010 --> 01:12:58,079 You became very close with her. 1202 01:12:59,847 --> 01:13:03,618 Liza always liked to surround herself with her friends. 1203 01:13:03,684 --> 01:13:06,120 Liza wouldn't do the show unless they hired me. 1204 01:13:06,187 --> 01:13:09,056 I wasn't in the union, they didn't let me in. 1205 01:13:10,725 --> 01:13:13,194 They didn't have women makeup artists 1206 01:13:13,261 --> 01:13:15,428 so Liza stood up for me 1207 01:13:15,495 --> 01:13:18,299 and I was one of the first women makeup artists ever. 1208 01:13:18,366 --> 01:13:20,868 She was very loyal to her friends 1209 01:13:20,935 --> 01:13:22,502 and they were loyal to her. 1210 01:13:22,570 --> 01:13:25,039 -Are you committed now to settling down? 1211 01:13:25,106 --> 01:13:27,541 -Yes. -Well, tell me about it. 1212 01:13:27,608 --> 01:13:29,442 -I desperately want a family. 1213 01:13:31,779 --> 01:13:32,780 I... 1214 01:13:35,950 --> 01:13:37,952 I really want a family. 1215 01:13:48,062 --> 01:13:52,166 -We have been with Liza at all of her emotional setbacks, 1216 01:13:52,233 --> 01:13:53,601 like miscarriages. 1217 01:13:56,404 --> 01:13:57,805 - She was all in, 1218 01:13:57,872 --> 01:13:59,774 she was all prepared, it was very sad. 1219 01:14:00,975 --> 01:14:02,475 -Can't hear you, what'd you say? 1220 01:14:02,543 --> 01:14:04,477 - If she had to pick one thing 1221 01:14:04,545 --> 01:14:06,479 that she's disappointed in her life 1222 01:14:06,547 --> 01:14:08,115 and that's not being a mother. 1223 01:14:09,317 --> 01:14:10,718 She would've been a great mother. 1224 01:14:10,785 --> 01:14:11,819 - She would've been terrific. 1225 01:14:13,453 --> 01:14:14,989 -She has so much to give. 1226 01:14:15,056 --> 01:14:17,925 -She's always had a lot of love to give. 1227 01:14:17,992 --> 01:14:20,695 - She's been so wonderful with our children. 1228 01:14:20,761 --> 01:14:24,365 We have a picture when our daughter was three years old 1229 01:14:24,432 --> 01:14:27,234 around a Christmas tree, Liza hugging her, 1230 01:14:27,301 --> 01:14:32,340 and then 35 years later when our daughter had a 3-year-old, 1231 01:14:33,908 --> 01:14:35,409 we have a picture around that same Christmas tree. 1232 01:14:35,475 --> 01:14:37,411 -Three generation's, the same picture. 1233 01:14:37,945 --> 01:14:39,847 She taught our daughter when she was about six years old 1234 01:14:39,914 --> 01:14:42,917 how to sing "Liza with a Z" quickly and sing every lyric. 1235 01:14:42,984 --> 01:14:44,518 Our daughter was so proud to sing it 1236 01:14:44,585 --> 01:14:46,921 and sang it all over the place and for everybody. 1237 01:14:46,988 --> 01:14:48,856 -She would've been an incredible mother 1238 01:14:48,923 --> 01:14:51,959 and life wasn't perfect. -Right. 1239 01:14:53,694 --> 01:14:57,331 -But she moved on and she's become part of our family. 1240 01:14:59,100 --> 01:15:02,570 I think that's part of our attraction for her, 1241 01:15:02,636 --> 01:15:05,206 that we've kept this bond. 1242 01:15:05,272 --> 01:15:08,909 We're sort of the family she didn't have. 1243 01:15:08,976 --> 01:15:11,445 -Even though she wasn't able to have children of her own, 1244 01:15:11,512 --> 01:15:14,382 she seems to have created her own family 1245 01:15:14,448 --> 01:15:16,717 through all the children who came into her life 1246 01:15:16,784 --> 01:15:18,719 and all the godchildren. 1247 01:15:20,454 --> 01:15:23,457 -I mean, she's godmother to my twins who are 50 now. 1248 01:15:23,524 --> 01:15:26,127 I mean, and she's never missed a birthday, anything. 1249 01:15:26,193 --> 01:15:28,729 -She's a godmother to one of my sons. 1250 01:15:28,796 --> 01:15:30,664 I was pregnant on tour with her. 1251 01:15:31,732 --> 01:15:33,367 Liza was so protective of me 1252 01:15:34,835 --> 01:15:37,405 and I ended up in the hospital after I had him 1253 01:15:37,471 --> 01:15:39,173 and she was there all the time 1254 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,009 and she brought Sammy Davis the tap dance for me. 1255 01:15:46,547 --> 01:15:48,849 I think she feels safe with people that take care of her. 1256 01:15:48,916 --> 01:15:52,286 And she still calls me like two or three times a week 1257 01:15:52,353 --> 01:15:53,788 just to talk. 1258 01:15:53,854 --> 01:15:56,190 I have children, she doesn't. 1259 01:15:56,257 --> 01:15:57,725 I think she gets lonely. 1260 01:15:59,493 --> 01:16:03,764 She doesn't say that, but I feel that, but I would too. 1261 01:16:03,831 --> 01:16:07,601 I don't know what else to say that I just love her so much. 1262 01:16:08,436 --> 01:16:10,337 It makes me cry 1263 01:16:10,404 --> 01:16:14,975 'cause I just think that she did a lot for all of us 1264 01:16:15,042 --> 01:16:17,711 and at a time when things aren't good, 1265 01:16:17,778 --> 01:16:19,180 she always came through. 1266 01:16:42,736 --> 01:16:45,673 -My father started as a costume designer, 1267 01:16:45,739 --> 01:16:50,811 so when I was little I was surrounded by fashion. 1268 01:16:51,812 --> 01:16:54,048 But the truth is, as a teenager, 1269 01:16:54,115 --> 01:16:56,217 I didn't care much about clothes. 1270 01:16:56,283 --> 01:16:58,986 No, 'cause I dressed like everybody else, mini skirts 1271 01:16:59,053 --> 01:17:01,556 and this, that and the other, and all the wrong things 1272 01:17:01,622 --> 01:17:02,623 at that point. 1273 01:17:04,291 --> 01:17:07,761 Once I started doing more one-woman shows and concerts, 1274 01:17:07,828 --> 01:17:12,366 I saw how fashion could be part of the stories 1275 01:17:12,433 --> 01:17:14,969 that I would tell in the songs. 1276 01:17:16,637 --> 01:17:20,107 I knew I needed a new look that I could call my own, 1277 01:17:20,174 --> 01:17:24,879 one that would reflects me and connect with the audience. 1278 01:17:24,945 --> 01:17:28,482 Halston I met through Kay Thompson. 1279 01:17:31,185 --> 01:17:33,220 -They were at Bergdorf Goodman. 1280 01:17:33,287 --> 01:17:35,122 Liza sees a dress on a mannequin 1281 01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:36,790 and says, 'Oh my God, look at the cut. 1282 01:17:36,857 --> 01:17:38,459 Look at the style of that dress." 1283 01:17:38,527 --> 01:17:40,427 She said, "That is brilliant. Who did that?" 1284 01:17:40,494 --> 01:17:44,198 And Kay Thompson said, "It's Halston, let me introduce you." 1285 01:17:44,265 --> 01:17:46,967 And she takes Liza upstairs and introduces her to Halston. 1286 01:17:47,034 --> 01:17:51,606 -For me, being around Halston was as if I were around 1287 01:17:51,672 --> 01:17:56,777 a religious entity, a pope, a king, a god. 1288 01:17:58,379 --> 01:18:00,314 - The most successful single individual 1289 01:18:00,381 --> 01:18:02,551 in the history of American fashion. 1290 01:18:12,993 --> 01:18:15,597 -I think what influences design most 1291 01:18:15,664 --> 01:18:17,498 is the people that you dress 1292 01:18:17,566 --> 01:18:19,634 and they tell you pretty much what they want 1293 01:18:19,700 --> 01:18:21,435 and what they need. 1294 01:18:21,502 --> 01:18:24,673 Know yourself, know what suits your purposes 1295 01:18:24,738 --> 01:18:27,441 to make you more attractive and more comfortable. 1296 01:18:27,509 --> 01:18:30,077 -When we speak about the '70s style, 1297 01:18:30,144 --> 01:18:33,682 American fashion coming into its own, 1298 01:18:35,883 --> 01:18:38,919 Halston is at the forefront of that. 1299 01:18:38,986 --> 01:18:40,487 He grew up in the Midwest 1300 01:18:40,555 --> 01:18:42,489 and he started his career by making hats. 1301 01:18:42,557 --> 01:18:44,124 He became famous when he designed 1302 01:18:44,191 --> 01:18:46,260 Jackie Kennedy's pillbox hat. 1303 01:18:47,795 --> 01:18:51,332 Soon though, he moved on to design clothing. 1304 01:18:51,398 --> 01:18:53,267 -The beauty of Halston was 1305 01:18:53,334 --> 01:18:56,837 that it was architecturally amazing and it functioned. 1306 01:18:56,904 --> 01:18:58,305 - In other words, 1307 01:18:58,372 --> 01:19:00,007 I think people have to work harder 1308 01:19:00,074 --> 01:19:02,209 so they need clothes for those different occasions. 1309 01:19:02,276 --> 01:19:03,978 -Clean, simple. 1310 01:19:04,044 --> 01:19:06,413 It's even more complicated when you have simple. 1311 01:19:08,215 --> 01:19:11,885 When I first came to work for Halston, it was taught to me 1312 01:19:11,952 --> 01:19:14,788 that fabric needs to talk to you. 1313 01:19:14,855 --> 01:19:16,790 How does a fabric talk to you? 1314 01:19:18,959 --> 01:19:22,530 We would literally take fabric and put it on a mannequin 1315 01:19:22,597 --> 01:19:27,234 and sometimes look at it for three days and things appear 1316 01:19:27,301 --> 01:19:30,572 when you keep looking at them, it starts talking to you. 1317 01:19:32,106 --> 01:19:35,543 And in a sense, it'll tell you what it wants to do. 1318 01:19:35,610 --> 01:19:37,378 The cuts are simple 1319 01:19:37,444 --> 01:19:41,048 because the fabric is left to do what it wants to do 1320 01:19:41,115 --> 01:19:43,050 and that was the genius of Halston. 1321 01:19:44,753 --> 01:19:49,023 -Halston was a very down to earth, practical, 1322 01:19:49,089 --> 01:19:53,728 funny man, which I have not seen depicted recently. 1323 01:19:53,827 --> 01:19:57,666 Underneath all of the darling this and darling that, 1324 01:19:57,732 --> 01:20:01,268 there was a real wonderful guy who found his way 1325 01:20:01,335 --> 01:20:03,203 to create his own paradise 1326 01:20:03,270 --> 01:20:05,873 and he was able to do that with Liza. 1327 01:20:05,939 --> 01:20:08,842 -I met Halston when I was 19 1328 01:20:08,909 --> 01:20:11,011 and I had no idea how to look, 1329 01:20:11,078 --> 01:20:14,749 you know, it affects not just how you dress, 1330 01:20:14,815 --> 01:20:18,385 but how you feel, how you perform. 1331 01:20:18,452 --> 01:20:21,790 He was the first one that gave me confidence. 1332 01:20:21,855 --> 01:20:26,193 I had the eye to know what was good 1333 01:20:27,828 --> 01:20:30,364 and what wasn't that great, but he knew what to do. 1334 01:20:30,431 --> 01:20:32,433 -When she met Halston, 1335 01:20:32,499 --> 01:20:37,037 he gave her an entire sense of self. 1336 01:20:37,104 --> 01:20:40,040 -Halston was able to take what she considered 1337 01:20:40,107 --> 01:20:42,876 to be negatives about her body and her self-image 1338 01:20:42,943 --> 01:20:44,612 and turn them into positives. 1339 01:20:44,679 --> 01:20:46,447 She had scoliosis. 1340 01:20:46,514 --> 01:20:49,249 She felt that her body was not symmetrically perfect, 1341 01:20:49,316 --> 01:20:53,053 all these things that she was insecure about, he used. 1342 01:20:54,823 --> 01:20:58,660 -Technically, Halston paid very acute attention 1343 01:20:58,727 --> 01:21:01,128 to Liza's clothes. 1344 01:21:01,195 --> 01:21:03,297 Halston was the one who said to Liza, 1345 01:21:03,364 --> 01:21:06,133 "Since you're perspiring so much on stage, 1346 01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:10,104 let's make all of your wardrobe in sequins." 1347 01:21:10,170 --> 01:21:12,406 So with the sparkle, you can't see 1348 01:21:12,473 --> 01:21:15,577 where the perspiration starts and stops. 1349 01:21:15,643 --> 01:21:19,848 And also because Liza's weight would often fluctuate, 1350 01:21:19,913 --> 01:21:22,316 Halston would often make two and three 1351 01:21:22,383 --> 01:21:27,488 or sometimes four of the same garment in different sizes 1352 01:21:28,889 --> 01:21:31,425 so he would be prepared with her current figure. 1353 01:21:32,926 --> 01:21:36,497 Liza went from a pretty little girl 1354 01:21:37,498 --> 01:21:39,366 representing mainstream fashion 1355 01:21:41,870 --> 01:21:45,540 overnight to the chicest girl in the world. 1356 01:21:48,108 --> 01:21:50,712 -The adoration that Liza and Halston had for each other 1357 01:21:50,779 --> 01:21:53,681 was always palpable when I was in the room with them. 1358 01:21:53,748 --> 01:21:58,520 They had this deep, deep love and shared the humor 1359 01:21:58,586 --> 01:22:00,387 and the irony of life together. 1360 01:22:04,692 --> 01:22:08,128 -I never performed, gave a party 1361 01:22:09,930 --> 01:22:14,736 or made any real major important decisions in my life 1362 01:22:15,737 --> 01:22:18,138 without my friend, Halston. 1363 01:22:20,608 --> 01:22:22,544 When we were together, it was heaven. 1364 01:22:23,210 --> 01:22:24,278 You know. 1365 01:22:24,445 --> 01:22:26,980 I'm so lucky and I know that. 1366 01:22:29,950 --> 01:22:32,352 -When Liza and Halston were together, 1367 01:22:32,419 --> 01:22:34,321 it's like nobody else was in the room. 1368 01:22:34,388 --> 01:22:35,924 They were so comfortable with each other. 1369 01:22:35,989 --> 01:22:38,893 They would hug and kiss and cuddle 1370 01:22:38,959 --> 01:22:41,094 and just cling to each other in a way 1371 01:22:41,161 --> 01:22:42,564 that was so beautiful. 1372 01:22:43,964 --> 01:22:46,734 -When Liza would arrive at Halston's office, 1373 01:22:46,801 --> 01:22:50,170 she brought that zest, the two of them, 1374 01:22:50,237 --> 01:22:52,272 they had nicknames for one another, 1375 01:22:52,339 --> 01:22:54,141 usually perverse nicknames. 1376 01:22:55,577 --> 01:22:58,212 It was a brother and sister relationship. 1377 01:22:58,278 --> 01:23:01,348 It was also very paternal on his side. 1378 01:23:01,415 --> 01:23:03,283 They brought each other to life. 1379 01:23:03,350 --> 01:23:05,219 -And having lunch with Halston and her, 1380 01:23:05,285 --> 01:23:08,088 we would have conversations of the next show she's doing 1381 01:23:08,155 --> 01:23:09,724 and what are we gonna design, 1382 01:23:09,791 --> 01:23:11,291 and there were nights that we would all go 1383 01:23:11,358 --> 01:23:12,760 to Studio 54 together. 1384 01:23:12,827 --> 01:23:15,195 ♪ Freak out ♪ 1385 01:23:17,164 --> 01:23:19,968 -Studio 54 is probably the Mount Olympus 1386 01:23:20,033 --> 01:23:21,101 of the disco world. 1387 01:23:21,168 --> 01:23:24,137 ♪ Freak out ♪ 1388 01:23:24,204 --> 01:23:26,941 -It was like the circus pulled into town. 1389 01:23:28,275 --> 01:23:29,944 -They're the inspirational people. 1390 01:23:33,380 --> 01:23:35,148 -Did that involve a lot of things? 1391 01:23:35,215 --> 01:23:37,351 Yeah, that's been documented. 1392 01:23:39,052 --> 01:23:43,892 -I mean, you had quaaludes, you had poppers, cocaine. 1393 01:23:44,893 --> 01:23:47,160 -Hold it, it wasn't that wacko. 1394 01:23:47,227 --> 01:23:52,232 And as far as drugs was concerned, nobody did drugs. 1395 01:23:54,002 --> 01:23:55,502 They just didn't. 1396 01:23:57,705 --> 01:24:00,942 -Liza is reluctant to talk about Studio 54 1397 01:24:01,009 --> 01:24:05,914 because everybody focuses on the excess and the basement 1398 01:24:05,980 --> 01:24:07,515 and the debauchery and all that. 1399 01:24:07,582 --> 01:24:12,687 For her, studio 54 was a cultural thing. 1400 01:24:14,087 --> 01:24:15,523 -What happened with Studio 54 is Halston 1401 01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:17,659 used to give these wonderful parties 1402 01:24:19,027 --> 01:24:21,128 and around 11 or 12 o'clock at night, 1403 01:24:21,194 --> 01:24:22,964 he didn't know how to get rid of people. 1404 01:24:23,031 --> 01:24:26,199 He would say to his guests, let's all go to Studio 54 1405 01:24:26,266 --> 01:24:28,101 to get 'em out of the apartment. 1406 01:24:29,436 --> 01:24:31,639 -I would just let the doormen know. 1407 01:24:31,706 --> 01:24:33,942 So they would just be alerted to them 1408 01:24:34,008 --> 01:24:36,978 because it was a sea of people. 1409 01:24:37,045 --> 01:24:38,980 You can't even believe the whole block 1410 01:24:39,047 --> 01:24:40,715 sometimes were filled. 1411 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:47,387 And then they would go 1412 01:24:47,454 --> 01:24:50,024 and escort them in if they needed to, 1413 01:24:52,092 --> 01:24:53,561 and the seas would part. 1414 01:25:01,769 --> 01:25:03,972 -They would have some banquettes in the center 1415 01:25:04,038 --> 01:25:09,109 of the dance floor and Halston would hold court with Liza 1416 01:25:10,110 --> 01:25:12,580 and Andy Warhol, Bianca Jagger. 1417 01:25:14,082 --> 01:25:16,216 -Liza used to love rum and coke. 1418 01:25:16,283 --> 01:25:17,417 Halston used to smoke. 1419 01:25:17,484 --> 01:25:19,353 She used to smoke cigarettes. 1420 01:25:19,419 --> 01:25:21,689 But all I remember is being with Halston and being with Liza 1421 01:25:21,756 --> 01:25:25,693 and all of us having the best happy times. 1422 01:25:29,664 --> 01:25:30,832 -He wasn't just a friend 1423 01:25:30,898 --> 01:25:33,534 and a party buddy at Studio 54. 1424 01:25:33,601 --> 01:25:36,671 They were each other's muse. 1425 01:25:36,738 --> 01:25:38,773 -You think of what Halston got from Liza 1426 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,742 and what Liza got from Halston 1427 01:25:40,808 --> 01:25:44,946 and obviously Studio 54, talk about genius branding. 1428 01:25:46,413 --> 01:25:51,284 -Liza became so much of the female figure 1429 01:25:52,252 --> 01:25:53,955 that allowed women to see 1430 01:25:54,022 --> 01:25:57,058 how extraordinarily wondrous Halston was. 1431 01:25:57,125 --> 01:25:58,893 Liza was a blueprint for Halston, 1432 01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,928 Halston was a blueprint for Liza. 1433 01:26:00,995 --> 01:26:04,899 -The mythology of Studio 54 depends upon its associations 1434 01:26:04,966 --> 01:26:07,969 to cultural icons who themselves were seen 1435 01:26:08,036 --> 01:26:09,604 as figures of excess, 1436 01:26:09,671 --> 01:26:11,606 and Liza Minnelli, the company of Halston, 1437 01:26:11,673 --> 01:26:13,240 is in some sense one 1438 01:26:13,306 --> 01:26:15,043 of the most sequined figures for that era. 1439 01:26:15,109 --> 01:26:17,145 -Can I say one more thing? 1440 01:26:17,210 --> 01:26:19,013 The very first collection 1441 01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:22,817 that Halston showed at the Olympic Tower was mind boggling. 1442 01:26:32,126 --> 01:26:33,561 Liza closed the show. 1443 01:26:33,628 --> 01:26:35,997 She came out on the runway 1444 01:26:36,064 --> 01:26:39,399 with the most extraordinary black crepe back satin dress 1445 01:26:39,466 --> 01:26:40,735 with nude shoulders. 1446 01:26:42,235 --> 01:26:45,238 And she walked the runway carrying one rose. 1447 01:26:45,305 --> 01:26:46,774 At the end of the runway, 1448 01:26:46,841 --> 01:26:48,543 she presented it to Elizabeth Taylor. 1449 01:26:49,977 --> 01:26:52,080 Halston came out and they came down together. 1450 01:26:53,881 --> 01:26:56,818 To watch them, was so touching. 1451 01:26:56,884 --> 01:27:00,755 They worked together, they were in love together, 1452 01:27:00,822 --> 01:27:04,859 and they represented a moment that is unmatched 1453 01:27:04,926 --> 01:27:06,894 in American fashion history. 1454 01:27:26,446 --> 01:27:27,949 - Legendary actress and singer 1455 01:27:28,015 --> 01:27:30,484 Liza Minnelli has checked into rehab. 1456 01:27:30,551 --> 01:27:32,352 - The veteran entertainer is getting treatment 1457 01:27:32,419 --> 01:27:35,489 for a substance abuse issue at a Malibu facility. 1458 01:27:35,556 --> 01:27:37,390 - A much publicized personal battle 1459 01:27:37,457 --> 01:27:39,660 against tranquilizer addiction. 1460 01:27:39,727 --> 01:27:42,563 - A disease that she says nearly killed her. 1461 01:27:45,933 --> 01:27:50,337 -Honestly, how lucky I was to have gone through 1462 01:27:50,403 --> 01:27:54,474 all of the bad stuff that I've gone through 1463 01:27:56,210 --> 01:28:00,681 because it prepared me for the rest of my life. 1464 01:28:00,748 --> 01:28:05,586 It made me understand a little bit more about myself. 1465 01:28:06,988 --> 01:28:08,956 -Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. 1466 01:28:10,290 --> 01:28:11,092 -We're gonna sell out this evening. 1467 01:28:11,159 --> 01:28:12,392 -Oh, fabulous. 1468 01:28:12,459 --> 01:28:15,263 -The enormity of Liza's success 1469 01:28:15,328 --> 01:28:18,398 certainly was a factor with the incredible pressures 1470 01:28:18,465 --> 01:28:20,333 of life and of show business 1471 01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:24,672 and becoming a commodity for so many people 1472 01:28:24,739 --> 01:28:28,242 that she's supporting financially took its toll. 1473 01:28:29,777 --> 01:28:32,379 -How you doing? -Terrific. 1474 01:28:32,445 --> 01:28:33,614 -Hmm? -Fine. 1475 01:28:36,684 --> 01:28:39,754 I was the kind of person that never fell down. 1476 01:28:39,821 --> 01:28:41,589 I never missed work. 1477 01:28:41,656 --> 01:28:44,058 I never did any of the things that you think of 1478 01:28:44,125 --> 01:28:45,927 when you think of somebody being a real mess, 1479 01:28:45,993 --> 01:28:48,963 but inside, I felt so weird. 1480 01:28:49,030 --> 01:28:51,899 I was taking Valium, prescription drugs, 1481 01:28:51,966 --> 01:28:55,435 but I really didn't feel like I had a drug problem. 1482 01:28:55,502 --> 01:28:59,140 And I'd drink silly drinks like rum and coke. 1483 01:28:59,207 --> 01:29:01,108 I started to notice 1484 01:29:02,677 --> 01:29:04,979 that drinking made me feel better for a minute. 1485 01:29:07,114 --> 01:29:09,116 It's really that simple. 1486 01:29:09,183 --> 01:29:13,321 And then of course, it turned on me like it always does. 1487 01:29:14,655 --> 01:29:16,356 And people who have been through 1488 01:29:17,725 --> 01:29:19,627 all the things I'm thinking about, 1489 01:29:19,694 --> 01:29:22,997 know what I'm talking about. 1490 01:29:25,967 --> 01:29:29,369 - I never got drunk anywhere. 1491 01:29:31,839 --> 01:29:33,140 I would like to have, but I can't. 1492 01:29:33,207 --> 01:29:34,542 It makes my stomach sick. 1493 01:29:36,143 --> 01:29:39,247 I know in the '70s, I used to tell interviewers 1494 01:29:39,313 --> 01:29:43,718 that I was terrified of drugs and didn't even take aspirin. 1495 01:29:44,986 --> 01:29:47,989 Well, kids, that's called denial. 1496 01:29:48,055 --> 01:29:51,959 I didn't want anyone to know that I was less than perfect, 1497 01:29:52,026 --> 01:29:54,195 that I was under stress. 1498 01:29:54,262 --> 01:29:56,797 I always wanted to be the hero. 1499 01:30:06,908 --> 01:30:11,178 -She has this incredible strength that I'm gonna do this. 1500 01:30:11,245 --> 01:30:13,281 I can do this, and at the same time, 1501 01:30:13,347 --> 01:30:16,017 she has this vulnerability, 1502 01:30:16,083 --> 01:30:19,687 she has nervousness, she has fear. 1503 01:30:19,754 --> 01:30:24,558 -The dark stuff, the drug stuff, whatever it was, 1504 01:30:24,625 --> 01:30:28,896 she thought that being alive 1505 01:30:30,531 --> 01:30:34,802 and open and playful and sexy and all of those things, 1506 01:30:37,138 --> 01:30:41,842 she inherited some of that from her mom. 1507 01:30:41,909 --> 01:30:44,312 -When Liza became more vulnerable 1508 01:30:44,378 --> 01:30:47,581 and at times in her life, I was surprised 1509 01:30:47,648 --> 01:30:50,117 because she better than anyone knew 1510 01:30:50,184 --> 01:30:55,022 and had vowed, you know, never to be anything less 1511 01:30:55,089 --> 01:30:57,892 than the totally sharp, responsible person. 1512 01:31:00,728 --> 01:31:03,431 -But I was very worried 1513 01:31:05,166 --> 01:31:09,737 'cause I thought she was making some wrong moves personally 1514 01:31:11,138 --> 01:31:14,308 and I loved her and she was like my baby sister. 1515 01:31:15,609 --> 01:31:17,111 -Watching my mom, 1516 01:31:17,178 --> 01:31:20,982 I swore on my life that I would never take drugs 1517 01:31:21,983 --> 01:31:24,452 until I realized I was doing it. 1518 01:31:25,820 --> 01:31:27,455 You know, being Judy Garland's daughter 1519 01:31:27,521 --> 01:31:29,690 is not a lot of laughs. 1520 01:31:29,757 --> 01:31:34,628 ♪ Life is just a bowl of cherries ♪ 1521 01:31:34,695 --> 01:31:37,064 ♪ Some take it serious ♪ 1522 01:31:37,131 --> 01:31:40,234 ♪ Life's too mysterious ♪ 1523 01:31:40,301 --> 01:31:42,103 ♪ You work, you say ♪ 1524 01:31:42,169 --> 01:31:44,405 -So we hear stories of what it was like to grow up 1525 01:31:44,472 --> 01:31:48,209 with a mother who was both so unbelievably talented, 1526 01:31:48,275 --> 01:31:50,711 but also who's had, you know, her demons, 1527 01:31:50,778 --> 01:31:52,913 struggled with alcohol and drug addiction. 1528 01:31:52,980 --> 01:31:54,782 And Liza Minnelli tells stories 1529 01:31:54,849 --> 01:31:56,784 of her mother locking herself in the bathroom 1530 01:31:56,851 --> 01:31:59,320 and threatening to commit suicide. 1531 01:31:59,387 --> 01:32:01,389 -Her mother was a person 1532 01:32:01,455 --> 01:32:03,991 who deeply, deeply loved her daughter. 1533 01:32:04,058 --> 01:32:07,928 She famously said, "I'm giving up drugs and pills 1534 01:32:07,995 --> 01:32:10,331 and I'm going to be a good mother for my daughter." 1535 01:32:10,398 --> 01:32:13,901 But she couldn't sustain that because she was addicted. 1536 01:32:13,968 --> 01:32:16,971 ♪ It's just a bowl of cherries ♪ 1537 01:32:17,038 --> 01:32:20,975 ♪ So live and laugh at it all ♪ 1538 01:32:23,110 --> 01:32:25,246 -She became incredibly protective 1539 01:32:25,312 --> 01:32:27,748 of her mother at a very early age 1540 01:32:27,815 --> 01:32:29,784 because she understood her mother. 1541 01:32:29,850 --> 01:32:31,852 -She's taught me a great deal. 1542 01:32:31,919 --> 01:32:33,454 - Have you learned anything from her mistakes 1543 01:32:33,522 --> 01:32:35,256 as well as from her achievements? 1544 01:32:36,323 --> 01:32:37,958 -Yes, I have. 1545 01:32:38,025 --> 01:32:39,760 Most of the mistakes that have been made 1546 01:32:39,827 --> 01:32:42,496 that I've been around have not been her fault. 1547 01:32:43,831 --> 01:32:47,601 ♪ So live and you laugh at it all ♪ 1548 01:32:53,574 --> 01:32:56,343 -The relationship was complicated, 1549 01:32:56,410 --> 01:33:01,516 and yet when she sees her mom on TV, she melts. 1550 01:33:03,284 --> 01:33:07,588 She just admires that talent and that person and that soul. 1551 01:33:10,525 --> 01:33:15,062 -Fred Ebb really taught me about sobriety 1552 01:33:16,263 --> 01:33:20,634 because he started to notice 1553 01:33:20,701 --> 01:33:23,871 that I was getting a little fuzzy on stage. 1554 01:33:23,938 --> 01:33:25,574 I was doing too much. 1555 01:33:26,941 --> 01:33:29,009 And somebody would say, "Have a drink. 1556 01:33:29,076 --> 01:33:31,580 It'll make you feel better." 1557 01:33:31,645 --> 01:33:35,749 So I took advantage of that. 1558 01:33:50,464 --> 01:33:54,201 -Liza knew that she came from certain genes 1559 01:33:54,268 --> 01:33:57,671 which are addictive and she needed help. 1560 01:34:12,653 --> 01:34:14,421 -When Liza Minnelli went to the Betty Ford Clinic, 1561 01:34:14,488 --> 01:34:16,257 this was in the newspapers, 1562 01:34:16,323 --> 01:34:18,092 but one of the things that's distinctive 1563 01:34:18,159 --> 01:34:20,595 about her relationship to having been in some sense 1564 01:34:20,661 --> 01:34:23,164 outed as a celebrity with a substance abuse problem 1565 01:34:23,230 --> 01:34:25,766 is that she didn't run away from that. 1566 01:34:25,833 --> 01:34:27,768 She wasn't closeted about her struggles 1567 01:34:27,835 --> 01:34:30,572 in a way that so many other celebrities had been. 1568 01:34:30,639 --> 01:34:32,106 -I think that there are a lot of people 1569 01:34:32,173 --> 01:34:33,807 who don't know that they had a problem 1570 01:34:33,874 --> 01:34:36,043 like I didn't know until I got so physically weak. 1571 01:34:36,110 --> 01:34:38,379 All prescription drugs are the same. 1572 01:34:38,445 --> 01:34:40,281 They're insidious. 1573 01:34:40,347 --> 01:34:42,483 And at first they do do what you take them to do with it. 1574 01:34:42,551 --> 01:34:44,553 They hold a very busy life together. 1575 01:34:44,619 --> 01:34:46,120 But then if you don't stop taking them, 1576 01:34:46,187 --> 01:34:47,556 you just keep merrily going on thinking 1577 01:34:47,622 --> 01:34:49,591 that they can't hurt you. 1578 01:34:49,658 --> 01:34:51,458 Eventually become toxic. 1579 01:34:51,526 --> 01:34:53,160 -And I think that was very brave of Liza to do 1580 01:34:53,227 --> 01:34:56,665 and I think it was welcomed despite the shock 1581 01:34:56,730 --> 01:35:01,802 because I think people were happy to see her not following 1582 01:35:02,836 --> 01:35:04,004 that footstep of her mother's, 1583 01:35:04,071 --> 01:35:05,973 as in just being a hopeless case. 1584 01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:08,375 -But it took a lot of guts for you to decide to go public 1585 01:35:08,442 --> 01:35:11,145 because you put yourself in the inevitable position 1586 01:35:11,212 --> 01:35:12,947 of them saying, "Well, she's gonna follow 1587 01:35:13,013 --> 01:35:15,082 truly in her mother's footsteps." 1588 01:35:15,149 --> 01:35:16,150 -I really believe 1589 01:35:19,688 --> 01:35:22,890 in saying when something's wrong and fixing it. 1590 01:35:24,559 --> 01:35:26,260 Again, it didn't have anything to do with my mother. 1591 01:35:26,327 --> 01:35:31,398 -She spoke so frankly about alcoholism 1592 01:35:32,701 --> 01:35:34,201 and about addiction that I thought 1593 01:35:34,268 --> 01:35:38,005 was the most courageous thing she had ever done. 1594 01:35:38,072 --> 01:35:39,708 -There's thousands of people out there 1595 01:35:39,773 --> 01:35:41,610 who are having the same problem. 1596 01:35:41,676 --> 01:35:43,578 The knowledge that you're not alone 1597 01:35:45,012 --> 01:35:47,014 is the first step to getting better. 1598 01:35:47,081 --> 01:35:49,416 -She became a champion of AA 1599 01:35:50,451 --> 01:35:52,654 and other treatment programs, 1600 01:35:52,721 --> 01:35:56,890 and even though she had continued struggles 1601 01:35:56,957 --> 01:36:00,861 for different reasons through a number of years, 1602 01:36:00,928 --> 01:36:02,263 she never gave up. 1603 01:36:02,329 --> 01:36:04,231 -She's a survivor. 1604 01:36:04,298 --> 01:36:08,369 She's come through all that with her heart and soul intact. 1605 01:36:19,581 --> 01:36:20,582 -Liza. -Hello. 1606 01:36:23,250 --> 01:36:27,488 Hello. 1607 01:36:27,555 --> 01:36:30,725 -It's my agent, you don't have to applaud. 1608 01:36:32,493 --> 01:36:34,428 -So, in aftermath of her mother's death, 1609 01:36:34,495 --> 01:36:38,932 a long decade of the '70s, Oscar, Emmy, Tony, 1610 01:36:38,999 --> 01:36:41,569 a fixture in the cultural scene in newspapers 1611 01:36:41,636 --> 01:36:44,004 and tabloids, this would be an extraordinary record 1612 01:36:44,071 --> 01:36:45,439 of achievement over an entire career, 1613 01:36:45,507 --> 01:36:48,610 let alone stuffed into a decade. 1614 01:36:48,677 --> 01:36:50,044 -Imagine that. -You were one 1615 01:36:50,110 --> 01:36:51,245 of the. - Thank you. 1616 01:36:51,312 --> 01:36:52,580 I'm glad you liked it. 1617 01:36:52,647 --> 01:36:54,448 -She did it. 1618 01:36:54,516 --> 01:36:56,751 This young girl who was born into show business royalty 1619 01:36:56,817 --> 01:36:59,953 had to invent herself who had these challenges. 1620 01:37:00,020 --> 01:37:01,922 She knew what she needed. 1621 01:37:01,989 --> 01:37:06,293 She built this loyal, loving family of friends and mentors 1622 01:37:07,629 --> 01:37:08,763 and followed this sort of intuition 1623 01:37:08,862 --> 01:37:11,566 to become this iconic person. 1624 01:37:11,633 --> 01:37:12,767 -Listen! 1625 01:37:18,038 --> 01:37:19,940 To the band that made me feel like the best 1626 01:37:20,007 --> 01:37:22,076 band singer in the world, 1627 01:37:22,142 --> 01:37:24,512 I can't tell you what it's like singing in front of you. 1628 01:37:24,579 --> 01:37:29,149 -She could have died like her mother. She hasn't. 1629 01:37:29,216 --> 01:37:30,884 - We'd like to thank the orchestra 1630 01:37:30,951 --> 01:37:32,654 that worked with us. -People respond to that. 1631 01:37:32,721 --> 01:37:34,288 I think they see the vulnerability. 1632 01:37:34,355 --> 01:37:35,824 - Really do think you were terrific, 1633 01:37:35,889 --> 01:37:37,458 probably the best orchestra they have. 1634 01:37:37,525 --> 01:37:39,226 -They see somebody not unlike themselves, 1635 01:37:39,293 --> 01:37:43,430 who knows rejection, sorrow, and loss, 1636 01:37:43,497 --> 01:37:47,602 and they see her courage to get up on a stage 1637 01:37:47,669 --> 01:37:49,704 and put those sequins on. 1638 01:37:50,971 --> 01:37:55,242 She's brave, she pushes on, you know? 1639 01:37:55,309 --> 01:37:58,278 - Yay! 1640 01:37:58,345 --> 01:37:59,614 - Thank you, you're so terrific. 1641 01:38:05,219 --> 01:38:09,156 - Well said. 1642 01:38:49,597 --> 01:38:51,331 -Let's try one, what the hell. 1643 01:39:03,545 --> 01:39:08,616 ♪ Sometimes you're happy and sometimes you're sad ♪ 1644 01:39:09,651 --> 01:39:14,556 ♪ But the world goes round ♪ 1645 01:39:15,790 --> 01:39:18,726 ♪ And sometimes you lose ♪ 1646 01:39:18,793 --> 01:39:21,863 ♪ Every nickel you had ♪ 1647 01:39:21,930 --> 01:39:26,967 ♪ But the world goes round ♪ 1648 01:39:29,303 --> 01:39:34,408 ♪ Sometimes your dreams get broken in pieces ♪ 1649 01:39:35,643 --> 01:39:40,247 ♪ But that doesn't matter at all ♪ 1650 01:39:42,416 --> 01:39:45,419 ♪ Take it from me ♪ 1651 01:39:45,486 --> 01:39:48,222 ♪ There's still gonna be ♪ 1652 01:39:48,288 --> 01:39:53,193 ♪ A summer, a winter, a spring and a fall ♪ 1653 01:40:01,301 --> 01:40:06,373 ♪ Oh once a friend starts treating you bad ♪ 1654 01:40:07,441 --> 01:40:11,378 ♪ For the world goes round ♪ 1655 01:40:12,647 --> 01:40:16,885 ♪ And sometimes your heart breaks ♪ 1656 01:40:16,951 --> 01:40:22,022 ♪ With a deafening sound ♪ 1657 01:40:25,125 --> 01:40:30,197 ♪ Somebody loses and somebody wins ♪ 1658 01:40:31,198 --> 01:40:34,101 ♪ And one day it's kicks ♪ 1659 01:40:34,167 --> 01:40:37,037 ♪ And it's kicks in the shins ♪ 1660 01:40:37,104 --> 01:40:40,240 ♪ But the planet spins ♪ 1661 01:40:40,307 --> 01:40:42,644 ♪ And the world goes round and round ♪ 1662 01:40:42,710 --> 01:40:43,778 Can you think of a star who's managed 1663 01:40:43,845 --> 01:40:46,014 to equal a famous parent? 1664 01:40:46,079 --> 01:40:48,750 Well, one who did is Liza Minnelli, 1665 01:40:48,816 --> 01:40:51,251 the daughter of a superstar, Judy Garland. 1666 01:40:51,318 --> 01:40:52,419 -It's Lonely at the top. 1667 01:40:52,486 --> 01:40:53,588 -And Academy Award-winning 1668 01:40:53,655 --> 01:40:55,389 film director Vincente Minnelli. 1669 01:40:56,824 --> 01:40:58,425 Liza has become a superstar on her own. 1670 01:40:59,359 --> 01:41:01,428 ♪ Round ♪ 1671 01:43:35,415 --> 01:43:38,920 -No? All right. -Put a mark on her face. 1672 01:43:41,723 --> 01:43:44,592 -Aw. -CB that was marvelous. 1673 01:43:44,659 --> 01:43:46,694 -Did you like that? 1674 01:43:46,761 --> 01:43:49,296 Now, let's take it again from the top. 130169

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