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I love it when the
camera's a little higher,
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just a little.
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Sorry.
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I may be my mother's daughter,
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but there's a lot
of my father in it.
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Oh, Lenny, it's great.
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Can you get this?
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Okay.
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I wish you had a light
that went right in my face.
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Okay, a little bit higher.
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I'm talking to you.
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-Is that perfect?
-That was perfect.
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That's what I always say.
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On the schnoz too.
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Let's all
settle down, please.
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-Shut the fuck up.
-Shut the fuck up.
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Ladies and
gentlemen, Liza Minnelli.
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Yes.
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♪ Say yes ♪
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Iconic.
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One of the biggest
stars in the world.
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Talent beyond belief.
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-Liza Minnelli.
-Liza Minnelli.
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-Liza Minnelli.
-The one and only Liza.
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♪ When opportunity
comes your way ♪
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-Films.
-Concerts.
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♪ Wondering what to say ♪
-Broadway.
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Tonys, a Grammy,
an Emmy, even an Oscar,
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she has done it all.
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♪ There's mink and
marigold right outside ♪
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People
think that Liza was born
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in a red sequin dress,
belting out a tune.
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She's
weathered some hard times,
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both personally
and professionally.
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♪ Yes, I'm alive ♪
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♪ Yes, I say ♪
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She has
achieved that rare status
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where only a first
name is necessary.
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I'm a star.
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-♪ And yes, I'm going ♪
-She's simply the best.
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-Liza!
-♪ On ♪
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♪ Yes ♪
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Yes.
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Ladies
and gentlemen,
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here is young Liza Minnelli.
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-How am I doing, Mama?
-Oh, fine, Liza, keep going.
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Judy
and her daughter Liza
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at the London Palladium.
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♪ Hello, Liza ♪
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- Hello?
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- Thousands of
people lined the streets
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outside the funeral chapel on
Manhattan's Upper East Side
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to pay this last tribute
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to a woman they had known
since her childhood.
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-Is that Mama?
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No!
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My mother? Nah.
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She's never gonna pass.
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And I believed it.
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I started crying and I didn't
stop for about eight days.
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It just was devastating to me
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and I was in charge of so much.
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- Her family,
her three children,
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Liza Minnelli, Lorna and Joey
Luft attended the services.
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It's hard to imagine what
would've happened with Liza
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if her mother hadn't passed
away at that moment in her life
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because it's kind of
a before and after.
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Her mother's passing
was a catalyst.
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-She took that period
of time to hone the craft
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that her mother had given her,
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the legacy she had
passed on to her.
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She took the grief as
a period of incubation.
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-I think when her mom died,
there was of course sorrow.
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Her mother was a massive
person in her life,
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but I think there had
to be an element of,
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I don't have to worry anymore,
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because I mean, her
mom was a worry.
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-So what's next?
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Her mom has died, she's
grieving, and at the same time,
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she's thinking
about her own life.
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She's 23, what's she
gonna do in her career
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because there was so
much expected of her.
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♪ Oh, sweet kindness ♪
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♪ A little magic,
a little kindness ♪
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-She is a talented dancer,
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a talented singer,
a great actress,
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but these things all
need to be developed.
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So she found friends and
mentors who helped her.
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-What I was really good at
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was picking the
people to be around.
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I had a good eye.
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I think I still do.
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♪ Don't let Annie hear it ♪
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♪ We don't believe in
the Jezebel spirit ♪
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-It was now or never, so she
set out to create the person
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that she wanted to become.
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-Kay.
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♪ Come along and join
a Jubilee ♪
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-How smart of you to
show me this right now.
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It's giving me courage too.
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- In what way?
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-Because it's fun
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and I'm nervous
so it helps that.
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-The minute her mother died,
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Kay Thompson comes
back into Liza's life
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as her quirky godmother
who took her under her wing
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and gave her this
sort of life wisdom.
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-Liza called Kay,
who was in Rome.
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Kay immediately flew to
New York and took over.
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What are you gonna wear?
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What's the casket?
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Kay said We need a white casket.
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The funeral home said we
don't have white caskets.
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And Kay said, "We're
from MGM. Spray it."
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Kay really started
to mentor Liza
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at a time when Liza
didn't know who she was.
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Was she Judy Garland's daughter?
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Who was she supposed to be?
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-Her fight was to find who
she was, not her mother.
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She knew who her mother was.
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She didn't wanna be her mother.
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-Kay Thompson is always
referred to as larger than life,
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but Liza was also
larger than life
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and Liza became larger than
life because she watched Kay.
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♪ Kay Thompson,
Kay, Kay Thompson ♪
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♪ Hello hello ♪
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♪ We're having a
birthday party ♪
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♪ A lot like Jubilee time,
a lot like Jubilee time ♪
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-Kay Thompson was a
singer, a vocal arranger,
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a composer, a lyricist,
a cultural icon,
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a fashion icon, an author
of the Eloise books.
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Kay supposedly created
the character of Eloise
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patterned in part after Liza.
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She became a mentor musically
first to Judy Garland,
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and then to Liza Minnelli.
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-Hi.
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Bonjour Paris.
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I'm heavenly. Hi, there.
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-There was this deep bond
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where they were
like two girlfriends
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and shared this
spiritual life together
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and Kay opened up
the world to Liza
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to have a different perspective,
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an off kilter perspective,
a kooky perspective of life.
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- With
pleasure, my darling.
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We're both from the Virgin
Islands, so let's go.
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-Okay, thank you.
-I love you sweat tears.
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Is that from the Virgins?
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- Kay wrote
that, I love that song.
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-I was really happy to
be invited to be in a show
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that ended up being called
"Liza's at the Palace."
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We toured for three years,
ended up on Broadway.
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It was interesting
that after much touring
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and some illnesses, Liza
took this return to Broadway
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as a celebration
of Kay Thompson.
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-She was so original, the
way she would teach you stuff.
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I mean, when my parents were
gone, she never left my side.
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We were so close,
I was such a fan.
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She was it.
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She was it for me.
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She understood my fears
and what worried me
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and she always knew what to say.
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I got the jitters.
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-Don't have.
-Just a little.
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-Oh, well, a little is great.
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-When you get up there,
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you suddenly realize
what's expected of you
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and you get scared.
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- But I think
we get that way
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because we think we have
to do more than we can do,
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which is the dumbest form
of insanity in the world.
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You can only do what
you can do, no more.
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-That's true.
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The most important thing,
and Kay told me this,
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don't go around with
people you don't like.
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Or even if you're curious
about people you don't,
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don't do it.
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- And if I get killed
in an elevator tonight,
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don't waste your time
with dull people.
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-Okay.
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- It's like an emery board
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going over you all the time.
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It's terrible and you
become dull yourself.
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All right, now what you
can do is turn around
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so that's because what
you've got in back of you.
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-She taught me everything.
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She taught me how to live life,
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how to appreciate everything
that we were going through.
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♪ People to be ♪
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♪ What some people and me ♪
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Give me more level.
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Does it sound good back there?
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- Beautiful sound.
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-Wish I could give
myself just a little more.
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She'd seen me start to shake,
so I was putting my makeup on
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and she'd say...
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♪ Happy days are here again ♪
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♪ The skies are bright ♪
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You know.
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She'd kept me
singing, I'd relax.
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-The theater is beautifully
perfect acoustically.
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And this sound is heavenly.
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What more can I say?
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-She would stand
backstage with me sometimes
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and she'd slap me on the
behind and say, "Go!"
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I went "Wow!" I was
on stage.
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-So I mean, honey,
you're in, you know?
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Hi, there.
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-How do I wanna say that?
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Kay never felt
particularly attractive.
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She said she had a new
face made of old material.
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Great line.
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She had a real feeling
of being less than,
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and then moving to Hollywood
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where everyone is beautiful
must have been crushing.
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So I think that's perhaps
where some jealousy came from.
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She was the one with the talent
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and she was coaching all
of these other people
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to do what she did.
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So there were a couple withering
comments here and there
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from Kay that I know
would hurt Liza.
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There was a lot of
jealousy in Kay Thompson.
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♪ All kinds of weather ♪
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♪ What if the sky should fall ♪
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♪ I don't know ♪
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♪
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♪ Where we going ♪
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♪ It doesn't matter ♪
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-During the last
years of Kay's life,
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Liza took care of
her in her own home,
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round the clock
staff, the best food.
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Liza gets her star in heaven
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for treating her so beautifully.
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-And the last words she
ever said to me were these.
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"Goodbye, darling.
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Happy everything!"
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-I think Kay, the mentor, made
Liza the superstar possible.
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-Hi, I'm Liza.
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When I was 18,
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I went in New York one night
to the Ambassador Theater
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and there I saw something
that I'll never forget.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
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I have brought you a
present from France.
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Charles Aznavour.
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Charles Aznavour
changed my life.
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He changed my entire life.
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I don't think I'm
a real good singer,
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but I can act some.
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♪ So we are alone
again tonight ♪
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♪ I read a book, you
watch the fight ♪
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♪ Stifled you on a can of beer ♪
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♪ What an enthralling
atmosphere ♪
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♪ And yet the sight
of you this way ♪
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♪ Helps me say what I must say ♪
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Which was written
by Charles Aznavour.
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-She'd learned a
lot from Aznavour.
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I mean, it all paid off.
258
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-I see her taking the
advice of Charles Aznavour
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very seriously with
lyrics and interpretation.
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-Aznavour is one
of the most beloved
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iconic French
singers/songwriters/performers
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who was mentored by Edith Piaf,
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with whom he had a relationship
very early in his career.
264
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- He personified
French culture to the world.
265
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- Aznavour
sold 180 million records.
266
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- The
French Frank Sinatra.
267
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- Tell us
all you have to know.
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-First of all, to be
honest with the public
269
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and to be kind of
an actor on stage,
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much more than to open the
mouth and throw a voice out.
271
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-When you see Aznavour
perform, even if it's in French
272
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and you don't understand
what he's saying,
273
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he has that same
ability to communicate
274
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and make you feel the
gamut of every emotion.
275
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When Liza saw Aznavour, she
said, "That's it. That's it."
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It was different from
what her mother did
277
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and Aznavour was this embodiment
278
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of not only the show business
part and the vocal part,
279
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but the grittiness of life.
280
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-Charles Aznavour is the
person Liza has credited
281
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with being one of the
architects of helping her find
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her own voice.
283
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-The creative part
of their relationship
284
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was really good for Liza
because I remember Frank saying
285
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about Liza when she
started out, he said,
286
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"Not everything has to
be the national anthem."
287
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And I knew what he meant,
but I didn't say anything.
288
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Aznavour, I think from Aznavour,
289
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she saw a way of delivering
the song in a way
290
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that was closer,
closer to the heart.
291
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She can do the big stuff
292
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and her mom always did
the the big stuff too,
293
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but I think being
able to do both
294
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is something that she showed
more of after Aznavour.
295
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-I always wanted to dance.
296
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It was the first
thing I could do.
297
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I loved it.
298
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I danced before I sang,
before I did anything.
299
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I wanted to be in a
dance company, you know?
300
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'Cause what I loved
so much was...
301
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♪ I want a natural ♪
302
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Cut and go to the clip.
303
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♪ I want a natural man ♪
304
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♪ I want a natural man ♪
305
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♪ I want a natural man ♪
306
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♪ I want a natural man, yes ♪
307
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-Liza grew up
surrounded by dance.
308
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♪ Shout hallelujah,
come on get happy ♪
309
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♪ You better chase
all your cares away ♪
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-Not only because
of her mother,
311
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but also because of her father
312
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-Out in the audience,
Vincente Minnelli.
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-Quiet! Roll sound.
314
00:21:25,586 --> 00:21:28,488
-Vincente Minnelli was a
true Hollywood visionary.
315
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He was an extraordinary
director of iconic musicals,
316
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American in Paris and The
Band Wagon, and GiGi.
317
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And he had this eye
for perfectionism
318
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and that is the thing
that Liza inherited
319
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and that's one of the most
important traits in who she is.
320
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-Well, my father inspired
me with everything,
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especially art, and
from watching him
direct everybody else,
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he was a tyrant, you know.
323
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Come here, camera.
324
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I don't want it straight away
or down, I want it there.
325
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Now tilts It, too far,
there, that's the angle.
326
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Vincente Minnelli's daughter,
327
00:22:08,529 --> 00:22:09,797
what are you gonna do?
-I know.
328
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- I just loved
hanging out at the studio
329
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where my father
and mother worked,
330
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especially when my father was
directing dance sequences.
331
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-Sometimes she
would come on the set
332
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and I said, "Who is that girl?"
333
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He said, "That's
Vincente's daughter."
334
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She'd sing a little number and
she'd do a little dance step.
335
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Great enthusiasm.
336
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-I learned by watching.
337
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You know.
338
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There was something
about movement,
339
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the choreography
that thrilled me,
340
00:22:48,169 --> 00:22:50,403
to move through the air.
341
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:52,372
I just knew I had to do it.
342
00:22:54,008 --> 00:22:56,611
I didn't have the
classic dancer's body.
343
00:22:56,677 --> 00:22:59,513
I discovered that
I had scoliosis
344
00:22:59,580 --> 00:23:02,583
and one leg went
higher than the other.
345
00:23:02,650 --> 00:23:05,620
I was really
insecure about this,
346
00:23:05,686 --> 00:23:08,222
but I had to learn
to deal with it.
347
00:23:09,489 --> 00:23:12,492
Emphasize what
you think is good,
348
00:23:13,694 --> 00:23:15,363
and what you don't
like, change it.
349
00:23:18,699 --> 00:23:21,636
-There was a sense
that Liza needed to take
350
00:23:21,702 --> 00:23:23,204
all of this raw dance talent
351
00:23:23,271 --> 00:23:25,106
and channel it into
something bigger,
352
00:23:25,172 --> 00:23:27,041
something greater
that she was feeling.
353
00:23:27,108 --> 00:23:29,210
So on the scene
comes a dance legend
354
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who would channel her
talents and change her life.
355
00:23:33,247 --> 00:23:34,849
-You know me.
356
00:23:34,916 --> 00:23:36,449
I directed the show's
"Pippen" and "Chicago"
357
00:23:36,517 --> 00:23:38,485
and the films
"Cabaret" and "Lenny,"
358
00:23:38,552 --> 00:23:41,022
but still people
don't know my face.
359
00:23:49,363 --> 00:23:51,198
-Bob Fosse started out dancing
360
00:23:51,265 --> 00:23:53,868
as a young boy in
his native Chicago.
361
00:23:53,935 --> 00:23:56,537
He moved to choreography
on Broadway,
362
00:23:56,604 --> 00:23:58,873
becoming one of the
biggest in the business.
363
00:23:59,740 --> 00:24:01,676
Later directing shows
364
00:24:01,742 --> 00:24:05,579
and then eventually inevitably
to directing motion pictures.
365
00:24:07,281 --> 00:24:11,552
-Bob Fosse to work with was
very precise and humorous.
366
00:24:13,254 --> 00:24:16,357
-He was a perfectionist in
terms of the choreography.
367
00:24:16,424 --> 00:24:18,259
Do it one more time.
368
00:24:18,326 --> 00:24:23,431
You didn't do, you didn't,
do, jip, boo.
369
00:24:24,832 --> 00:24:28,502
-A signature Bob Fosse
move would be his hands,
370
00:24:28,569 --> 00:24:29,737
the hips,
371
00:24:31,672 --> 00:24:33,074
the tilt of the head.
372
00:24:35,743 --> 00:24:40,681
And it's the simplicity of
the move that is so powerful.
373
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It's not the
cartwheel, the split,
374
00:24:43,117 --> 00:24:44,885
and the jump and the
bang, bang, bang.
375
00:24:44,952 --> 00:24:48,255
No, it's a quiet moments.
376
00:24:48,322 --> 00:24:50,358
Little things like
a flick of a head,
377
00:24:51,959 --> 00:24:52,960
a look.
378
00:24:54,428 --> 00:24:56,097
These are Fosseisms.
379
00:24:59,867 --> 00:25:01,635
-I think we should
mention somewhere in here
380
00:25:01,702 --> 00:25:04,405
about my audition for the
Broadway show of "Cabaret"
381
00:25:04,472 --> 00:25:05,473
and not getting it.
382
00:25:05,539 --> 00:25:07,308
-Ah, baby.
383
00:25:08,709 --> 00:25:10,778
-Originally when it was
conceived for Broadway,
384
00:25:10,845 --> 00:25:12,313
I lost the role.
385
00:25:12,380 --> 00:25:13,814
It was something I
always wanted to do.
386
00:25:13,881 --> 00:25:15,449
I always wanted to
do Sally Bowles.
387
00:25:15,516 --> 00:25:17,785
And then when they
made the film,
388
00:25:17,852 --> 00:25:20,454
I just petitioned for
it, I fought for it.
389
00:25:20,554 --> 00:25:23,391
I wanted to sing it, that's all.
390
00:25:23,457 --> 00:25:26,427
Is that too simple an answer?
391
00:25:26,494 --> 00:25:27,962
So I finally got the role
392
00:25:28,029 --> 00:25:30,731
and Bob Fosse was gonna direct.
393
00:25:30,798 --> 00:25:32,433
Oh my God.
394
00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:35,803
We met at the
Waldorf coffee shop.
395
00:25:35,870 --> 00:25:38,739
I must have made him
nervous or something
396
00:25:38,806 --> 00:25:41,409
because he suddenly
got vaguely defensive.
397
00:25:41,475 --> 00:25:45,846
He suddenly said, "How do you
feel about going topless?"
398
00:25:45,913 --> 00:25:48,582
I said, "I won't do it."
399
00:25:48,649 --> 00:25:50,184
There's always a way around it.
400
00:25:50,251 --> 00:25:53,087
And he said, "All right,
I was just wondering."
401
00:25:53,154 --> 00:25:54,622
Right away we clicked.
402
00:25:54,688 --> 00:25:56,857
He was some kind
of sexy and wacko
403
00:25:56,924 --> 00:25:59,693
and had this great
sense of humor.
404
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,163
-When Liza talks about
Fosse, she always says,
405
00:26:02,229 --> 00:26:03,532
"I'm a director's daughter.
406
00:26:03,597 --> 00:26:04,999
I understood how
to deal with him."
407
00:26:05,066 --> 00:26:07,034
-The Liza-Fosse combination.
408
00:26:07,101 --> 00:26:12,173
I always felt that Liza knew
how to get the most out of him.
409
00:26:13,508 --> 00:26:14,475
♪ Money makes the
world go around ♪
410
00:26:14,543 --> 00:26:15,510
♪ The world go around ♪
411
00:26:15,576 --> 00:26:17,011
♪ The world go around ♪
412
00:26:17,078 --> 00:26:18,612
♪ Money makes the
world go around ♪
413
00:26:18,679 --> 00:26:22,316
♪ It makes the world go round ♪
414
00:26:22,383 --> 00:26:25,186
-I was not a trained dancer.
415
00:26:25,252 --> 00:26:27,788
Liza was much more so,
416
00:26:27,855 --> 00:26:30,958
and she would always
say, "It's gonna be fine.
417
00:26:31,025 --> 00:26:33,327
Ssh, don't say anything.
418
00:26:33,394 --> 00:26:38,165
Shut the fuck up." And I did.
419
00:26:38,232 --> 00:26:39,867
♪ And you haven't
any cold stove ♪
420
00:26:39,934 --> 00:26:41,335
♪ And you freeze in the winter ♪
421
00:26:41,402 --> 00:26:42,504
♪ And curse through
the ceiling ♪
422
00:26:42,571 --> 00:26:44,205
-Liza's feet were bleeding,
423
00:26:44,271 --> 00:26:47,341
so I went to Bob and said,
"Her feet are bleeding.
424
00:26:47,408 --> 00:26:48,543
I don't think she can dance."
425
00:26:48,609 --> 00:26:50,478
And he said, "Yeah, she can.
426
00:26:50,545 --> 00:26:52,746
She's getting paid a lot of
money and that's what she does."
427
00:26:52,813 --> 00:26:54,982
-Okay, can we do
that once more?
428
00:26:55,049 --> 00:26:56,984
A few more lines than before.
429
00:26:57,051 --> 00:27:00,321
-She was totally in awe of him.
430
00:27:00,387 --> 00:27:01,922
She did whatever he wanted.
431
00:27:05,092 --> 00:27:07,862
-Something happened during
the shooting of a scene
432
00:27:07,928 --> 00:27:09,864
and Fosse was blaming her
433
00:27:09,930 --> 00:27:12,867
and after the shoot
was over, he said,
434
00:27:12,933 --> 00:27:15,836
"Liza, I wanna see you
in my office right now."
435
00:27:15,903 --> 00:27:18,739
She said, "No, Bobby, we'll
talk about it tomorrow."
436
00:27:18,806 --> 00:27:20,509
He said, "Right now."
437
00:27:20,575 --> 00:27:24,278
And she said, "No, Bobby,
if I go in there now,
438
00:27:24,345 --> 00:27:27,181
you're gonna say things to me
that are gonna be so horrible
439
00:27:27,248 --> 00:27:30,117
that tomorrow morning you're
gonna send me flowers.
440
00:27:31,418 --> 00:27:35,789
So we'll talk
about it tomorrow."
441
00:27:35,856 --> 00:27:38,926
I think it's so
revealing and so smart.
442
00:27:42,129 --> 00:27:44,198
-I remember going
to rent the movie
443
00:27:44,265 --> 00:27:46,734
and being so in
love with this chick
444
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,469
that was playing Sally Bowles.
445
00:27:48,537 --> 00:27:50,437
I was just like, she's hot,
she's sexy, she's weird.
446
00:27:50,505 --> 00:27:55,376
-She had that fierceness and
also so much vulnerability.
447
00:27:56,810 --> 00:27:59,446
-Sally Bowles to me
was a woman of life
448
00:27:59,514 --> 00:28:03,717
and yet a tragic
expression of life
449
00:28:03,784 --> 00:28:07,788
and I think that Liza
identified with the silent part
450
00:28:07,855 --> 00:28:10,257
of herself that the
public didn't know
451
00:28:10,324 --> 00:28:14,028
and she had a chance to express
it through Sally Bowles.
452
00:28:14,094 --> 00:28:17,264
-So I went to my
dad and I said,
453
00:28:17,331 --> 00:28:19,133
"Well, do I have to
dye my hair blonde
454
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,501
and pull out all my eyebrows?"
455
00:28:20,569 --> 00:28:22,671
And he said, "No,
no, no darling."
456
00:28:22,736 --> 00:28:25,105
And he showed me Lya de Putti
457
00:28:25,172 --> 00:28:27,808
and he showed me Louise Brooks.
458
00:28:27,875 --> 00:28:29,678
And he said, "There's
a way to do this
459
00:28:29,743 --> 00:28:31,546
and you'll figure it out."
460
00:28:31,613 --> 00:28:35,282
You have to be absolutely
concentrate on what you're doing
461
00:28:35,349 --> 00:28:37,751
and who this person is
462
00:28:37,818 --> 00:28:40,888
and what happened to her
to become this person.
463
00:28:40,955 --> 00:28:43,857
One day I went into this store
464
00:28:43,924 --> 00:28:46,427
and this wonderful lady
called Christina Smith
465
00:28:46,493 --> 00:28:49,029
was selling these
enormous eyelashes,
466
00:28:49,096 --> 00:28:51,533
and I thought that
would be good for her
467
00:28:52,733 --> 00:28:54,935
because she wants
to look special.
468
00:28:55,002 --> 00:28:56,470
She's not trying
to be beautiful.
469
00:28:56,538 --> 00:28:58,472
-I made those lashes by hand.
470
00:28:58,540 --> 00:29:02,309
They're long in the
center and that lowers.
471
00:29:02,376 --> 00:29:04,111
Of course, she had
naturally big eyes.
472
00:29:04,178 --> 00:29:05,846
I just enhanced them.
473
00:29:05,913 --> 00:29:08,048
-The Liza lashes are
iconic on their own terms,
474
00:29:08,115 --> 00:29:10,284
but never more
than as Sally Bowles
475
00:29:10,351 --> 00:29:11,885
where it seems like each lash
476
00:29:11,952 --> 00:29:15,389
has like a black pearl
at the end or something.
477
00:29:15,456 --> 00:29:18,593
It adds to the
hyperrealism of the movie.
478
00:29:19,594 --> 00:29:21,195
-She needed to be special.
479
00:29:21,262 --> 00:29:22,963
She needed to be special.
480
00:29:24,532 --> 00:29:25,966
- Sally Bowles!
481
00:29:29,738 --> 00:29:31,539
-When you think
about Liza as a dancer
482
00:29:31,606 --> 00:29:35,710
before she worked with
Fosse, she was girlish.
483
00:29:35,776 --> 00:29:38,479
If you look at footage of
her on the Ed Sullivan Show-
484
00:29:38,546 --> 00:29:40,548
-Liza Minnelli.
-She was clearly
485
00:29:40,615 --> 00:29:43,551
very talented, but
she was kind of gangly
486
00:29:43,618 --> 00:29:45,052
and all over the place.
487
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,523
Fosse brought a
kind of discipline
488
00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:50,592
and focus to her dancing
489
00:29:50,659 --> 00:29:53,994
that made her just
shine like a jewel.
490
00:29:54,061 --> 00:29:55,597
-I have a a back problem.
491
00:29:55,664 --> 00:29:57,231
Every time I pick anything up
492
00:29:57,298 --> 00:29:59,500
and have to be
very kind of calm,
493
00:29:59,567 --> 00:30:01,835
it would go like this.
494
00:30:01,902 --> 00:30:03,170
They had to glue everything down
495
00:30:03,237 --> 00:30:05,105
for me so it wouldn't rattle.
496
00:30:05,172 --> 00:30:09,209
-Sometimes the muscles would
tremble even from the rear.
497
00:30:09,276 --> 00:30:10,944
You know, she'd be
acting very calm
498
00:30:11,011 --> 00:30:12,547
and you look at her rear...
499
00:30:16,618 --> 00:30:18,753
-Fosse was such
fun to work with
500
00:30:18,819 --> 00:30:22,423
and a marvelous director,
just knew what he wanted.
501
00:30:22,489 --> 00:30:24,458
Plus he knew what I could do.
502
00:30:28,763 --> 00:30:31,865
-He was smart
enough to recognize
503
00:30:31,932 --> 00:30:33,568
what a hard worker she was,
504
00:30:33,635 --> 00:30:36,470
how the talent just
oozed from her.
505
00:30:36,538 --> 00:30:40,274
♪ Have to understand
the way I am, mein herr ♪
506
00:30:40,341 --> 00:30:43,477
-He used the quirkiness
of her body movements,
507
00:30:43,545 --> 00:30:46,447
the quirkiness of her
torso to her advantage
508
00:30:46,514 --> 00:30:49,883
and presented her really in
a new and fascinating way.
509
00:30:49,950 --> 00:30:55,022
♪ Bye-bye my leiberherr ♪
510
00:30:57,224 --> 00:31:02,129
♪ Farewell my lieberherr ♪
511
00:31:02,196 --> 00:31:06,233
♪ It was a fine affair ♪
512
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:08,837
♪ But now it's over ♪
513
00:31:08,902 --> 00:31:11,506
-She has this enormous
amount of talent
514
00:31:11,573 --> 00:31:12,940
that all you have to
do is push a button
515
00:31:13,006 --> 00:31:14,341
or make a slight
suggestion and she said,
516
00:31:14,408 --> 00:31:15,909
"Oh, I know, I know."
517
00:31:15,976 --> 00:31:17,779
Or she's overdoing something
518
00:31:17,846 --> 00:31:20,849
and I think sometimes Liza
tends to be over emotional.
519
00:31:20,914 --> 00:31:22,684
You just have to say,
"Liza, pull back a little."
520
00:31:22,751 --> 00:31:25,520
And it's just like
some beautiful machine.
521
00:31:25,587 --> 00:31:27,689
She just knows how
much to pull back.
522
00:31:29,223 --> 00:31:32,960
♪ The continent of Europe
is so wide, mein herr ♪
523
00:31:33,026 --> 00:31:36,964
♪ Not only up and down, but
side to side, mein herr ♪
524
00:31:37,030 --> 00:31:39,634
-There's definitely the times
when she lets the tidal wave
525
00:31:39,701 --> 00:31:43,538
flow and it's thrilling, but
in this very controlled way.
526
00:31:43,605 --> 00:31:46,641
♪ But I do what I can ♪
527
00:31:46,708 --> 00:31:50,010
♪ Inch by inch, step by step ♪
528
00:31:50,077 --> 00:31:52,547
♪ Mile by mile ♪
529
00:31:52,614 --> 00:31:54,915
-When she gets to
the like "man by man"
530
00:31:56,250 --> 00:31:59,654
and it's just so
like lascivious.
531
00:31:59,721 --> 00:32:02,222
♪ Man by man ♪
532
00:32:05,593 --> 00:32:07,327
-I mean it's Liza doing
533
00:32:07,394 --> 00:32:09,296
what Liza does that
no one else does
534
00:32:09,363 --> 00:32:12,734
and it's Liza doing it better
than Liza has ever done.
535
00:32:23,778 --> 00:32:26,548
-Divine decadence.
I'm Sally Bowles.
536
00:32:26,614 --> 00:32:29,216
-You worry for her because
she's making mistakes
537
00:32:29,283 --> 00:32:31,418
and making demands of herself
538
00:32:31,485 --> 00:32:34,556
and others that are going
to just lead to a bad place.
539
00:32:34,622 --> 00:32:35,623
-Brian.
540
00:32:37,291 --> 00:32:38,660
I really do love you.
541
00:32:40,595 --> 00:32:41,930
-I think you do love me.
542
00:32:43,464 --> 00:32:45,399
-But you're never
fed up with her.
543
00:32:45,466 --> 00:32:48,770
You never stop worrying about
her and you never stop caring.
544
00:32:48,837 --> 00:32:53,040
♪ What good is sitting
alone in your room ♪
545
00:32:53,106 --> 00:32:56,210
♪ Come hear the music play ♪
546
00:32:58,011 --> 00:33:01,081
-The film comes out,
it's universally acclaimed
547
00:33:01,148 --> 00:33:04,384
as great art
immediately, immediately,
548
00:33:04,451 --> 00:33:07,555
and the film becomes a
tremendous box office success.
549
00:33:07,622 --> 00:33:09,356
♪ The book and the gloom ♪
550
00:33:09,423 --> 00:33:13,895
♪ It's time for a holiday ♪
551
00:33:13,962 --> 00:33:15,362
♪ Life is a cabaret ♪
552
00:33:15,429 --> 00:33:18,232
Liza Minnelli.
553
00:33:18,298 --> 00:33:21,235
♪ Come to the cabaret ♪
554
00:33:21,301 --> 00:33:24,004
-I would like to
thank Mr. Fosse
555
00:33:25,038 --> 00:33:27,942
and Fred Ebb and John Kander.
556
00:33:28,008 --> 00:33:29,878
Thank you for giving
me this award.
557
00:33:29,944 --> 00:33:31,946
You've made me very happy.
558
00:33:35,282 --> 00:33:39,721
-She was immediately then
a huge star after "Cabaret."
559
00:33:39,787 --> 00:33:42,991
That was like everybody
wanted to be with Liza.
560
00:33:45,025 --> 00:33:47,027
Everybody wanted her
at their parties.
561
00:33:48,563 --> 00:33:51,533
She was getting offered
better and better movies,
562
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,371
better boyfriends.
♪ Cabaret ♪
563
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,677
- It was a big deal.
564
00:34:11,886 --> 00:34:15,289
- Let's talk about
relationships, marriages.
565
00:34:15,355 --> 00:34:19,627
- Give me a gay break,
will ya?
566
00:34:19,694 --> 00:34:21,161
I'm sorry, cut that.
567
00:34:23,497 --> 00:34:25,365
Well, I feel
wonderful about love
568
00:34:25,432 --> 00:34:30,404
because I wanted to be like
it was in the songs, you know?
569
00:34:32,205 --> 00:34:35,643
-Okay, I think we should talk
about men in our past lives.
570
00:34:35,710 --> 00:34:37,210
She's had a lot of men.
571
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,815
-How about you?
-Excuse me.
572
00:34:40,882 --> 00:34:42,684
-No, I had men that
nobody knew about.
573
00:34:42,750 --> 00:34:44,886
I knew about all her men.
574
00:34:44,953 --> 00:34:47,021
-And some of them
weren't men at all.
575
00:34:51,059 --> 00:34:52,560
-I have to be careful
here 'cause Liza
576
00:34:52,627 --> 00:34:55,395
doesn't wanna talk a lot
about her relationships.
577
00:34:55,462 --> 00:34:57,065
It's a very private
thing for her,
578
00:34:57,130 --> 00:34:59,634
yet many of these
liaisons were very public.
579
00:34:59,701 --> 00:35:02,336
-She was taught
by her MGM parents
580
00:35:02,402 --> 00:35:06,808
how to make things
sound fantastic.
581
00:35:06,874 --> 00:35:11,946
Liza will never go on camera
and talk about the dirt.
582
00:35:13,615 --> 00:35:17,852
-I can only say that
she wanted to consume
583
00:35:17,919 --> 00:35:19,587
the fullness of life.
584
00:35:19,654 --> 00:35:21,923
I don't think she has
any regrets in that area.
585
00:35:33,233 --> 00:35:35,168
-She loses all of her bearings
586
00:35:35,235 --> 00:35:37,839
and all of her judgment.
587
00:35:37,905 --> 00:35:41,042
This person, this is great,
this is gonna be great.
588
00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:42,409
This is it.
589
00:35:45,412 --> 00:35:49,249
-She gets very into
people very quickly
590
00:35:49,316 --> 00:35:52,954
so she's had some really
unique relationships
591
00:35:53,021 --> 00:35:54,856
lasting a short period of time.
592
00:35:54,922 --> 00:35:57,725
She throws herself
into the relationship
593
00:35:57,792 --> 00:36:01,529
with the same passion that she
throws herself into a song,
594
00:36:01,596 --> 00:36:02,930
but then just like in a song,
595
00:36:02,997 --> 00:36:04,766
you then go on to the next song.
596
00:36:04,832 --> 00:36:08,301
-My engagement
to Desi Arnaz has,
597
00:36:10,038 --> 00:36:12,239
well, the relationship has been
deteriorating for some time.
598
00:36:12,305 --> 00:36:15,208
There is no more engagement,
that's all called off.
599
00:36:16,476 --> 00:36:20,682
I also met a man
called Peter Sellers
600
00:36:22,282 --> 00:36:24,085
and fell in love with him
601
00:36:24,152 --> 00:36:26,054
and a very pleased to
say that he fell in love
602
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,955
with me too.
603
00:36:28,022 --> 00:36:29,557
-When you do get married,
604
00:36:29,624 --> 00:36:31,059
you'll be the fourth
Mrs. Peter Sellers.
605
00:36:31,125 --> 00:36:33,561
Does this thought
bother you at all?
606
00:36:33,628 --> 00:36:36,229
-Oh no, four is my
lucky number, my dear.
607
00:36:37,330 --> 00:36:39,067
-Liza has acknowledged
608
00:36:39,133 --> 00:36:41,803
that she didn't always
make the greatest decisions
609
00:36:41,869 --> 00:36:45,139
in relationships
and laughs about it
610
00:36:45,205 --> 00:36:49,409
because there was genuine
love, deep love in every one
611
00:36:49,476 --> 00:36:52,180
of those relationships
in different ways.
612
00:36:54,048 --> 00:36:56,349
-And she said, "I wanna
take a picture just for us."
613
00:36:56,416 --> 00:36:57,985
I said, "Okay, sure."
614
00:36:58,052 --> 00:37:00,188
So we got off my shirt
she took off her blouse
615
00:37:00,253 --> 00:37:02,156
and we took the shot.
616
00:37:02,222 --> 00:37:06,359
What the photo is saying is
exactly what was in my mind.
617
00:37:07,427 --> 00:37:08,428
I got you.
618
00:37:09,831 --> 00:37:11,966
Then next thing I know,
it was in "Newsweek."
619
00:37:12,033 --> 00:37:16,504
Next thing I know it's
all over the world.
620
00:37:18,740 --> 00:37:20,440
I'm sure a lot of
society was shocked,
621
00:37:20,508 --> 00:37:23,644
but it never entered our bubble.
622
00:37:23,711 --> 00:37:28,783
It was two people were
sharing a moment in time.
623
00:37:29,684 --> 00:37:31,318
It didn't stop to say,
624
00:37:31,384 --> 00:37:32,987
well, what does that
white guy think about it?
625
00:37:33,054 --> 00:37:34,989
Or what's that black guy
going to think about it?
626
00:37:35,056 --> 00:37:36,791
We didn't care.
627
00:37:36,858 --> 00:37:38,492
It was in our world.
628
00:37:43,131 --> 00:37:44,632
-No, you didn't.
629
00:37:57,578 --> 00:37:58,579
-Wow.
630
00:37:59,881 --> 00:38:00,848
Wow.
631
00:38:05,820 --> 00:38:06,821
Excuse me.
632
00:38:12,292 --> 00:38:13,895
I guess you'd call it love.
633
00:38:15,096 --> 00:38:16,329
I love Liza.
634
00:38:19,167 --> 00:38:20,168
That's my baby.
635
00:38:21,969 --> 00:38:25,072
-Some of these relationships
didn't last as relationships,
636
00:38:25,139 --> 00:38:28,509
but many of them are
long-lasting friendships
637
00:38:28,576 --> 00:38:29,544
over the years.
638
00:38:30,343 --> 00:38:33,346
♪ Maybe this time ♪
639
00:38:33,413 --> 00:38:37,051
♪ For the first time ♪
640
00:38:37,118 --> 00:38:40,521
♪ Love won't hurry away ♪
641
00:38:43,423 --> 00:38:44,859
-I tell you my favorite song
642
00:38:44,926 --> 00:38:46,594
that she sings is
"Maybe this Time,"
643
00:38:46,661 --> 00:38:50,264
and you felt when she
was singing it, you know,
644
00:38:50,330 --> 00:38:54,702
you hoped that maybe this
time would be the time
645
00:38:54,769 --> 00:38:57,238
because she sure deserved it.
646
00:38:57,305 --> 00:39:00,875
♪ It's gotta happen ♪
647
00:39:00,942 --> 00:39:04,111
♪ Maybe sometime ♪
648
00:39:04,178 --> 00:39:09,283
♪ Maybe this time ♪
649
00:39:10,151 --> 00:39:12,854
♪ Maybe this time ♪
650
00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:23,865
♪ Real ♪
651
00:39:29,837 --> 00:39:32,173
-Now been married twice
with one divorce behind you,
652
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:35,509
and yet I wonder how
you really have survived
653
00:39:35,576 --> 00:39:37,044
and how you really cope.
654
00:39:38,813 --> 00:39:41,315
-I was expecting all the pretty
things that I'd heard about
655
00:39:42,884 --> 00:39:44,285
and I got a lot of them.
656
00:39:44,352 --> 00:39:46,954
-One time Judy
Garland was on stage
657
00:39:47,021 --> 00:39:48,823
and somebody yelled
out, "Marry me,"
658
00:39:48,890 --> 00:39:52,293
and Garland said, "Marry
you? With my track record?"
659
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,096
And that's kind of like
Liza, the way she jokes.
660
00:39:55,162 --> 00:39:57,632
It's like, you know,
my track record.
661
00:40:07,074 --> 00:40:10,443
-Peter Allen was so hilarious
662
00:40:10,511 --> 00:40:14,615
and so much fun to be with
and he was so great on stage.
663
00:40:14,682 --> 00:40:16,851
-When Liza talks about
Peter Allen to this day,
664
00:40:16,918 --> 00:40:19,954
she always talks about his
talent, his incredible ability
665
00:40:20,021 --> 00:40:21,789
as a musician, as a composer.
666
00:40:22,823 --> 00:40:24,625
She was deeply in love with him
667
00:40:24,692 --> 00:40:27,460
and they in a certain way
remained in love with each other
668
00:40:27,528 --> 00:40:28,963
for the rest of his life.
669
00:40:30,898 --> 00:40:34,702
-The happiest I saw her with
somebody in her private life
670
00:40:34,769 --> 00:40:36,304
was with Peter Allen.
671
00:40:36,370 --> 00:40:38,706
But, you know, there
were other elements.
672
00:40:40,574 --> 00:40:43,844
-She was truly devastated
when she discovered Peter
673
00:40:43,911 --> 00:40:47,248
in a compromising
situation with another man.
674
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:50,017
And people always say, "How
could she have not known?"
675
00:40:50,084 --> 00:40:51,152
She didn't know.
676
00:40:51,218 --> 00:40:52,954
I absolutely believe that.
677
00:40:54,155 --> 00:40:56,757
-I think that he
felt restricted.
678
00:40:56,824 --> 00:40:58,926
He needed literally to come out.
679
00:41:03,931 --> 00:41:04,932
Oh, Jack.
680
00:41:10,671 --> 00:41:12,406
-When Liza married
Jack Haley Jr,
681
00:41:12,472 --> 00:41:14,709
there was all this talk
about the daughter of Dorothy
682
00:41:14,775 --> 00:41:16,911
marries the son of the Tin Man
683
00:41:16,978 --> 00:41:19,714
and they were a perfect match
for each other in the sense
684
00:41:19,780 --> 00:41:21,916
that they both grew
up in Hollywood
685
00:41:21,983 --> 00:41:25,553
and they had beautiful shorthand
when they were together
686
00:41:25,619 --> 00:41:28,289
and had a great deal of fun.
687
00:41:28,356 --> 00:41:32,693
♪ When love comes in and
takes you for a spin ♪
688
00:41:35,229 --> 00:41:38,265
-Larger than life, loved
to have a good time,
689
00:41:38,332 --> 00:41:42,370
loved to hear wonderful
stories, loved to gossip.
690
00:41:42,436 --> 00:41:45,973
He really, really
loved my sister.
691
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:51,412
-I mean, I love Jack and all,
692
00:41:51,479 --> 00:41:55,683
but I didn't think Jack was a
good match for her, frankly.
693
00:42:00,187 --> 00:42:03,357
-In many ways, Mark Gero
was Liza's most solid husband
694
00:42:03,424 --> 00:42:05,893
because Mark wasn't
in show business.
695
00:42:07,294 --> 00:42:11,098
Mark was a sculptor
and he was solid.
696
00:42:11,165 --> 00:42:13,000
He was a solid rock.
697
00:42:13,067 --> 00:42:16,804
-Mark was soulful in a
way and Mark was quiet.
698
00:42:16,871 --> 00:42:21,976
I think that Mark was a form
of stability that she needed.
699
00:42:27,381 --> 00:42:28,649
-That last husband of hers,
700
00:42:28,716 --> 00:42:31,352
I was at the wedding, oh my God.
701
00:42:36,190 --> 00:42:38,659
-When Liza met David
Gest, we were with her.
702
00:42:38,726 --> 00:42:41,328
It was during a period
of time in Liza's life
703
00:42:41,395 --> 00:42:44,632
when she wasn't doing
so well physically.
704
00:42:44,698 --> 00:42:46,300
She'd gained a lot of weight
705
00:42:46,367 --> 00:42:50,505
and David Gest charmed
her and romanced her.
706
00:42:50,571 --> 00:42:54,442
David Gest had a gift of
gab, nothing was real,
707
00:42:54,509 --> 00:42:58,345
and basically for a
while, took over her life.
708
00:42:58,412 --> 00:43:01,982
He took everybody in her
life out of her life.
709
00:43:02,049 --> 00:43:04,652
-I never, I did not know him.
710
00:43:04,718 --> 00:43:09,790
I didn't know him and so I don't
have a lot to say about him
711
00:43:10,758 --> 00:43:12,527
'cause I didn't know him.
712
00:43:12,593 --> 00:43:15,663
-It ended when Liza went
on tour and she came back
713
00:43:15,729 --> 00:43:19,066
and David Gest took everything
out of the apartment,
714
00:43:19,133 --> 00:43:20,801
left her with a bed and a lamp.
715
00:43:20,868 --> 00:43:22,670
There's a bed and one lamp.
716
00:43:22,736 --> 00:43:24,371
-Every picture was off the
wall, everything was gone.
717
00:43:24,438 --> 00:43:25,840
-He took every picture,
every piece of furniture,
718
00:43:25,906 --> 00:43:27,141
put it in storage.
719
00:43:27,208 --> 00:43:28,709
-Even her record albums.
720
00:43:28,776 --> 00:43:31,045
-Well, you know, he's
not around anymore
721
00:43:31,112 --> 00:43:33,180
and I don't wanna
speak ill of the dead.
722
00:43:33,247 --> 00:43:34,583
-Betty Davis said
you should only speak
723
00:43:34,648 --> 00:43:36,150
good about the dead.
724
00:43:36,217 --> 00:43:37,818
Well David Gest is dead, good.
725
00:43:45,626 --> 00:43:49,564
-Ladies and gentlemen,
not only the most talented
726
00:43:49,630 --> 00:43:53,200
and marvelous person I know,
727
00:43:53,267 --> 00:43:55,870
but my best and dearest friend,
728
00:43:55,936 --> 00:44:01,008
and if it weren't for him, I
wouldn't be here, Mr. Fred Ebb.
729
00:44:01,675 --> 00:44:02,476
-Fred Ebb.
730
00:44:08,916 --> 00:44:11,218
-I think Fred
really invented me.
731
00:44:11,285 --> 00:44:12,621
He really did.
732
00:44:12,686 --> 00:44:16,223
He knew me so well
and so deeply.
733
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:27,968
♪ For every man
there's a woman ♪
734
00:44:28,035 --> 00:44:30,037
♪ For every life there's a fan ♪
735
00:44:30,104 --> 00:44:32,973
-Was she like everybody
who starts, I think was,
736
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,510
was imitating everybody and not,
737
00:44:36,810 --> 00:44:38,779
she needed a style of her own.
738
00:44:38,846 --> 00:44:41,048
So out of that came
my opinion that she
739
00:44:41,115 --> 00:44:43,984
should just be who she
is, which is terrific.
740
00:44:44,051 --> 00:44:45,419
-He was a complicated guy.
741
00:44:45,486 --> 00:44:47,121
He was wonderful.
742
00:44:47,188 --> 00:44:49,456
He was incredibly
funny, he was acerbic.
743
00:44:49,524 --> 00:44:51,292
He could have very
dark sense of humor
744
00:44:51,358 --> 00:44:53,360
and his alter ego was Liza.
745
00:44:55,029 --> 00:44:57,164
He helped to expand
things in her
746
00:44:57,231 --> 00:44:59,500
that she didn't
even see in herself.
747
00:44:59,568 --> 00:45:02,736
-And it really started
with a song, the first piece
748
00:45:02,803 --> 00:45:06,073
of a special material that
Freddy ever wrote for me
749
00:45:06,140 --> 00:45:07,975
with Johnny, John Kander.
750
00:45:08,042 --> 00:45:10,010
Of course it was
"Liza with a Z."
751
00:45:10,077 --> 00:45:13,214
-I mean, he wanted to
be Liza in a certain way.
752
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,082
I mean, he wanted
to be that persona.
753
00:45:15,149 --> 00:45:16,618
He wanted to be that performer
754
00:45:16,685 --> 00:45:18,852
and he was able to
channel certain aspects
755
00:45:18,919 --> 00:45:20,921
of himself through her.
756
00:45:20,988 --> 00:45:22,356
-Would you sing it?
-Me?
757
00:45:22,423 --> 00:45:23,592
-Oh yeah.
Freddy, everybody.
758
00:45:23,658 --> 00:45:25,092
-You sing it.
-Yeah.
759
00:45:27,328 --> 00:45:29,029
♪ It's Liza with a Z,
not Lisa with an S ♪
760
00:45:29,096 --> 00:45:31,131
♪ 'Cause Lisa with an
S goes /s/, not /z/ ♪
761
00:45:31,198 --> 00:45:33,133
♪ It's Z instead of
S, Li instead of Le ♪
762
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,169
♪ Simple as can be, see Liza ♪
763
00:45:35,236 --> 00:45:37,606
♪ Now if my name were Ada ♪
764
00:45:37,672 --> 00:45:40,808
♪ I'd be Ada even
backwards I'd be Ada ♪
765
00:45:40,874 --> 00:45:42,476
♪ Or if my name were Ruth ♪
766
00:45:42,544 --> 00:45:44,178
♪ Then I'd be Ruth
because it's Ruth ♪
767
00:45:44,245 --> 00:45:45,813
♪ What can you do ♪
768
00:45:45,879 --> 00:45:49,618
♪ Or Sally or Margaret
or Ginger Mofet ♪
769
00:45:49,684 --> 00:45:51,385
♪ But when you're a Liza ♪
770
00:45:51,452 --> 00:45:53,487
♪ You always have to say ♪
771
00:45:53,555 --> 00:45:55,624
♪ It's Liza with a Z,
not Lisa with an S ♪
772
00:45:55,690 --> 00:45:58,459
♪ 'Cause Lisa with an
S goes /s/, not /z/ ♪
773
00:46:04,098 --> 00:46:05,966
-It's a whole song about how
people say your name wrong.
774
00:46:06,033 --> 00:46:08,168
- That's right, guys.
775
00:46:08,235 --> 00:46:11,305
♪ Or Minoli or Miniola
or Mineli or Minelai ♪
776
00:46:11,372 --> 00:46:14,908
♪ So is it a wonder I
very often cry, sing it ♪
777
00:46:19,046 --> 00:46:20,682
- The way Freddy
wrote his lyrics,
778
00:46:20,749 --> 00:46:23,050
it was like somebody
talking to you.
779
00:46:23,117 --> 00:46:24,818
♪ Liza Minnelli ♪
780
00:46:24,885 --> 00:46:28,055
♪ It's Italian,
blame it on Papa ♪
781
00:46:28,122 --> 00:46:30,991
-And I know how to do a lyric.
782
00:46:31,058 --> 00:46:33,193
The words are so important.
783
00:46:35,162 --> 00:46:39,166
-Fred and I were brought
together, I guess it was 1962,
784
00:46:39,233 --> 00:46:42,671
by our publisher and our
backgrounds were very different.
785
00:46:42,737 --> 00:46:45,873
I come from Kansas City
and a family background
786
00:46:45,939 --> 00:46:48,008
which was considerably
more placid.
787
00:46:48,075 --> 00:46:53,113
That being said, when Fred and
I went in the room to write,
788
00:46:55,182 --> 00:46:58,852
we immediately became one person
789
00:47:00,321 --> 00:47:02,590
and that was true really
till the day he died.
790
00:47:02,657 --> 00:47:04,358
- Here are the
composer and lyricist,
791
00:47:04,425 --> 00:47:07,961
John Kander and Fred Ebb.
792
00:47:08,028 --> 00:47:09,631
-They were professional,
793
00:47:09,698 --> 00:47:11,599
but they were also
godfathers kind of to her.
794
00:47:11,666 --> 00:47:16,036
I mean, they were really close
and key in her creative life
795
00:47:16,103 --> 00:47:19,273
and therefore, you know,
in in her heart and soul.
796
00:47:22,343 --> 00:47:26,815
-Liza first came into our
lives on a cloudy afternoon
797
00:47:28,048 --> 00:47:30,484
when we were
working on the score
798
00:47:30,552 --> 00:47:31,786
for "Flora the Red Menace."
799
00:47:31,852 --> 00:47:34,488
We were very close to casting
800
00:47:34,556 --> 00:47:37,424
and that afternoon
the doorbell rang
801
00:47:37,491 --> 00:47:40,060
and there was this person.
802
00:47:40,127 --> 00:47:43,130
-And I came in and said,
803
00:47:44,699 --> 00:47:46,233
"Do you have any songs
that I could sing, please?
804
00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:48,135
So may I please sing
some of your songs?"
805
00:47:48,202 --> 00:47:50,137
-That's right, I
remember what you wore.
806
00:47:50,204 --> 00:47:52,973
-What did I wear?
-Jeans,
807
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,010
and an old ratty sort of
turtleneck, a black turtleneck
808
00:47:57,077 --> 00:48:00,682
and it had a hole in
it, which I stared at.
809
00:48:01,982 --> 00:48:03,250
And you were biting your nails
810
00:48:03,317 --> 00:48:04,918
and I said, "God, she's cute."
811
00:48:07,488 --> 00:48:10,592
-Just for fun, we went
through all the songs in "Flora"
812
00:48:10,658 --> 00:48:13,961
and she nailed it instantly
813
00:48:14,027 --> 00:48:18,499
and she became right
then and there the person
814
00:48:18,566 --> 00:48:20,602
that we wanted to
play that part.
815
00:48:22,369 --> 00:48:26,741
She never stopped being a major
player in both of our lives.
816
00:48:28,275 --> 00:48:33,380
♪ Some peppy melody
about rainbows blending ♪
817
00:48:34,783 --> 00:48:36,584
-Liza had a lot to learn,
818
00:48:38,085 --> 00:48:40,588
but she had the thing
that you can't teach.
819
00:48:42,857 --> 00:48:46,960
-She just gave
her all to Freddy,
820
00:48:47,027 --> 00:48:51,833
and in doing so, she blossomed.
821
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:54,968
-Well, he was also
very parenting to Liza.
822
00:48:55,035 --> 00:48:56,738
And he would tell her if
she did something wrong,
823
00:48:56,805 --> 00:48:58,706
he didn't hold back.
824
00:48:58,773 --> 00:49:01,041
He would say, "You
can't do that."
825
00:49:01,108 --> 00:49:02,811
-My friend, my big brother.
826
00:49:04,311 --> 00:49:06,380
He bawled me out when
I needed it, you know?
827
00:49:06,447 --> 00:49:07,816
And he told me how
to sing a lyric
828
00:49:07,882 --> 00:49:09,416
so that it was believable.
829
00:49:09,483 --> 00:49:11,318
You could just be yourself.
830
00:49:12,419 --> 00:49:14,254
That's all you had to be.
831
00:49:14,321 --> 00:49:15,890
And Freddy taught me that.
832
00:49:15,989 --> 00:49:20,595
He said, "The minute
you think you're acting,
833
00:49:20,662 --> 00:49:22,496
then people think
you're acting."
834
00:49:22,564 --> 00:49:24,998
I said, "Yeah, you're right."
835
00:49:25,065 --> 00:49:27,201
-There's nothing about
you that's unattainable
836
00:49:27,267 --> 00:49:30,672
which is why I think you're
as great a star as you are.
837
00:49:30,738 --> 00:49:34,174
All those people care about
you and your vulnerability
838
00:49:34,241 --> 00:49:37,846
and there's a humanity
about you when you walk out.
839
00:49:37,912 --> 00:49:41,381
♪ When you see me ♪
840
00:49:41,448 --> 00:49:44,117
♪ Hobbin nobbing on
the top of the town ♪
841
00:49:44,184 --> 00:49:46,186
♪ My emeralds weighing me down ♪
842
00:49:46,253 --> 00:49:51,091
-And I would do something and
Freddy would put up his hand
843
00:49:51,158 --> 00:49:52,493
and they'd cut.
844
00:49:53,862 --> 00:49:56,196
And Freddy come over
and whisper to me,
845
00:49:56,263 --> 00:49:57,932
"Hold your head
up a little higher
846
00:49:57,998 --> 00:50:00,367
like you were saying
something really important."
847
00:50:00,434 --> 00:50:04,238
I'd go, "Mm-hmm."
848
00:50:04,304 --> 00:50:07,207
And then I'd hold
my head up higher.
849
00:50:07,274 --> 00:50:10,612
-With Fred, it was a very
close offstage relationship
850
00:50:10,678 --> 00:50:13,413
and a very close
professional relationship
851
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,016
and the two very
much melded together.
852
00:50:17,217 --> 00:50:19,988
-So he would steer me away
853
00:50:20,053 --> 00:50:24,424
from talking about
my mom too much.
854
00:50:24,491 --> 00:50:26,059
He said because
when that happens,
855
00:50:26,126 --> 00:50:28,295
they think about
her and not you.
856
00:50:30,330 --> 00:50:31,833
- Liza, I realized
you must have learned
857
00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:33,801
a lot of things by
watching your mother.
858
00:50:35,068 --> 00:50:36,671
-She was very
proud of her mother,
859
00:50:36,738 --> 00:50:41,676
but it was such a
complicated relationship.
860
00:50:43,410 --> 00:50:45,580
-Liza used to talk about
being at the London Palladium
861
00:50:45,647 --> 00:50:47,481
with her mom in '64.
862
00:50:47,549 --> 00:50:49,449
That was a defining
moment for her.
863
00:50:54,321 --> 00:50:56,858
She came on stage
and she started
864
00:50:56,925 --> 00:51:00,028
to get this extraordinary
reaction from the audience.
865
00:51:17,045 --> 00:51:19,479
Her mom got pissed.
866
00:51:22,717 --> 00:51:26,654
Judy's pushing the microphone
up to Liza's face to show
867
00:51:26,721 --> 00:51:29,557
that she's the professional
and Liza's the amateur.
868
00:51:30,658 --> 00:51:32,125
And suddenly Liza said,
869
00:51:32,192 --> 00:51:33,795
"My mother went
from being my mother
870
00:51:33,861 --> 00:51:35,830
and turned into Judy Garland."
871
00:51:35,897 --> 00:51:38,866
That was a defining
moment for Liza.
872
00:51:38,933 --> 00:51:43,170
-Fred understood being
always compared to Judy
873
00:51:43,236 --> 00:51:44,639
made her feel terrible.
874
00:51:44,706 --> 00:51:46,574
-Give me your
sketch of your mom.
875
00:51:46,641 --> 00:51:48,042
-Your mother.
-Your mother.
876
00:51:48,108 --> 00:51:49,644
-Your mother.
-Your wonderful mother.
877
00:51:49,711 --> 00:51:51,244
-If I could walk you
down your mother's
878
00:51:51,311 --> 00:51:53,213
old yellow brick road,
take you to the wizard,
879
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,383
what would be the one wish
for yourself that you'd make?
880
00:51:58,218 --> 00:51:59,053
-That you wouldn't
ask me another question
about my mother.
881
00:52:03,925 --> 00:52:05,526
-I think it was the
night of her club act
882
00:52:05,593 --> 00:52:07,028
that we did for her.
883
00:52:11,633 --> 00:52:16,070
Because I can remember Liza
sitting in front of the mirror
884
00:52:16,136 --> 00:52:19,774
and she was terrified
because Judy
885
00:52:19,841 --> 00:52:21,743
was coming out to the show
886
00:52:23,310 --> 00:52:28,116
and it was Liza at her
most unhappy and insecure.
887
00:52:29,784 --> 00:52:34,789
And Judy is there telling
Liza how wonderful she is,
888
00:52:36,189 --> 00:52:37,859
but also patting her
on the legs saying,
889
00:52:37,925 --> 00:52:40,928
"This is what we've always
wanted, isn't it baby?"
890
00:52:45,767 --> 00:52:49,704
And I cannot explain to you
why that was the wrong thing
891
00:52:49,771 --> 00:52:54,842
to say, but it took the
evening away from Liza.
892
00:53:01,516 --> 00:53:04,184
-Fred helped her
evolve from the daughter
893
00:53:04,251 --> 00:53:05,887
of Judy Garland legacy
894
00:53:05,953 --> 00:53:09,356
to the sequin amazing
performer on her own.
895
00:53:10,758 --> 00:53:12,894
You can see the
beginnings of all of that
896
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,294
in "Liza with a Z."
897
00:53:24,138 --> 00:53:27,809
-I was asked to do a television
special and Fred Ebb said,
898
00:53:27,875 --> 00:53:31,311
"I wanna do the first
concert for television.
899
00:53:33,047 --> 00:53:35,348
It's never been done before
and I want Bobby to do it."
900
00:53:36,918 --> 00:53:38,786
-This is a concert in
the medium of television,
901
00:53:38,853 --> 00:53:43,725
the small screen, which it
could be dangerous, you know,
902
00:53:43,791 --> 00:53:46,828
in that some entertainers
are not good on television
903
00:53:46,894 --> 00:53:48,663
because they're larger
than life on stage.
904
00:53:51,099 --> 00:53:53,868
-It was for one night,
it's one shot only.
905
00:53:53,935 --> 00:53:56,269
It was amazing, it
was nerve wracking.
906
00:53:58,005 --> 00:54:00,307
I walked out there like I
didn't have a care in the world
907
00:54:00,373 --> 00:54:02,110
and I don't know where
I got the bravado.
908
00:54:02,176 --> 00:54:04,846
I don't know anything
except that I was felt safe.
909
00:54:04,912 --> 00:54:07,682
♪ I gotcha, uh-huh ♪
910
00:54:07,749 --> 00:54:10,985
♪ You thought I didn't see
you now, didn't ya, uh-huh ♪
911
00:54:11,052 --> 00:54:14,555
♪ You tried to sneak by me
now, didn't ya, uh-huh ♪
912
00:54:14,622 --> 00:54:16,023
♪ Now gimme what
you promised to me ♪
913
00:54:16,090 --> 00:54:19,794
♪ Give it to me, come on ♪
914
00:54:19,861 --> 00:54:21,863
-I thought it was
absolutely phenomenal.
915
00:54:21,929 --> 00:54:25,800
Definitely a new
way of doing things.
916
00:54:28,536 --> 00:54:30,538
♪ Blackbird ♪
917
00:54:30,605 --> 00:54:33,741
-So the Liza in "Liza with
a Z" certainly has elements
918
00:54:33,808 --> 00:54:37,344
of the real Liza, but
the Liza with the hat
919
00:54:37,410 --> 00:54:41,549
and with the sequin and
this certain kind of persona
920
00:54:41,616 --> 00:54:45,553
is a character who is Liza,
921
00:54:45,620 --> 00:54:48,523
but also is a different person.
922
00:54:48,589 --> 00:54:53,194
♪ Where somebody waits
for me, Sugar's sweet ♪
923
00:54:53,261 --> 00:54:54,929
♪ So is he ♪
924
00:54:54,996 --> 00:54:57,698
-What Fred Ebb did in
collaboration with her
925
00:54:57,765 --> 00:55:01,202
is to take anything
that was unpolished
926
00:55:01,269 --> 00:55:05,438
and awkward about
Liza, Judy's daughter
927
00:55:05,506 --> 00:55:07,575
trying to make it
in show business,
928
00:55:07,642 --> 00:55:12,747
and either polish it or
embrace the vulnerabilities.
929
00:55:23,624 --> 00:55:27,595
And she knew exactly
how to mine that
930
00:55:27,662 --> 00:55:29,197
for everything it's worth.
931
00:55:29,263 --> 00:55:31,632
♪ Fly little blackbird, bye ♪
932
00:55:31,699 --> 00:55:33,366
-When she worked with Fred Ebb,
933
00:55:34,836 --> 00:55:37,104
he rehearsed her where
every single speech
934
00:55:37,171 --> 00:55:40,373
and every single thing she
said on stage was rehearsed,
935
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,744
even though it sounded
incredibly spontaneous.
936
00:55:43,811 --> 00:55:46,747
-The one time that I
got a little snippy,
937
00:55:46,814 --> 00:55:49,917
I was sitting around, I
said, "I don't wanna do that,
938
00:55:49,984 --> 00:55:51,819
I don't wanna do this tonight,"
or something like that.
939
00:55:51,886 --> 00:55:55,089
And Fred Ebb said,
"Liza, just remember,
940
00:55:55,156 --> 00:55:57,457
you're a figment
of my imagination."
941
00:55:57,525 --> 00:55:59,260
And it just so happens that
I told a couple of friends
942
00:55:59,327 --> 00:56:01,329
of mine this truly terrific,
absolutely true story.
943
00:56:01,394 --> 00:56:02,797
And it just so happened
944
00:56:02,864 --> 00:56:04,665
these friends of
mine are songwriters.
945
00:56:04,732 --> 00:56:09,804
-Any singer knows you
got to tell the story
946
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:11,973
in your singing.
947
00:56:12,039 --> 00:56:14,441
♪ Gather around I
got a story to tell ♪
948
00:56:14,508 --> 00:56:18,913
♪ About a Manhattan lady
that I know very well ♪
949
00:56:18,980 --> 00:56:21,015
♪ She lives at 5 Riverside ♪
950
00:56:21,082 --> 00:56:23,017
♪ Her name is Shirley Divor ♪
951
00:56:23,084 --> 00:56:24,986
♪ And she traveled
round the world ♪
952
00:56:25,052 --> 00:56:27,188
♪ To meet the guy next door ♪
953
00:56:27,255 --> 00:56:28,923
-She's done up in Halston,
954
00:56:28,990 --> 00:56:31,525
who's not just making
her look fabulous,
955
00:56:31,592 --> 00:56:33,460
but making her look iconic.
956
00:56:33,527 --> 00:56:36,597
I mean really capturing
what will be Liza's look
957
00:56:36,664 --> 00:56:38,099
for the rest of her life.
958
00:56:38,165 --> 00:56:41,936
♪ Ring that bell ♪
959
00:56:50,378 --> 00:56:53,614
-Liza proved with
"Liza with a Z"
960
00:56:53,681 --> 00:56:56,884
that she was equally
iconic on the small screen.
961
00:56:59,053 --> 00:57:01,722
And she did that with Fred Ebb.
962
00:57:14,802 --> 00:57:17,538
- It was like living
in the inside of a diamond.
963
00:57:17,605 --> 00:57:19,974
We won the Emmy for
"Liza with a Z,"
964
00:57:20,041 --> 00:57:22,243
the Oscar for "Cabaret."
965
00:57:22,310 --> 00:57:24,345
It was a very good year.
966
00:57:33,421 --> 00:57:36,757
♪ Start spreading the news ♪
967
00:57:36,824 --> 00:57:40,828
♪ I'm leaving today ♪
968
00:57:40,895 --> 00:57:44,865
♪ I wanna be a part of it ♪
969
00:57:44,932 --> 00:57:49,437
♪ New York, New York ♪
970
00:57:49,502 --> 00:57:53,607
♪ These vagabond shoes ♪
971
00:57:53,674 --> 00:57:56,844
♪ Are longing to stray ♪
972
00:57:56,911 --> 00:57:59,747
-Liza chose to make a film
called "New York, New York,"
973
00:57:59,814 --> 00:58:01,682
which is a more
traditional musical
974
00:58:01,749 --> 00:58:05,619
that is an homage to the 1940s,
directed by Martin Scorsese,
975
00:58:05,686 --> 00:58:07,688
co-starring Robert De Niro.
976
00:58:07,755 --> 00:58:12,827
♪ Cream of the crop at
the top of the heap ♪
977
00:58:13,861 --> 00:58:16,697
♪ Those little town blues ♪
978
00:58:22,803 --> 00:58:24,905
-And it was De Niro who
heard the first version
979
00:58:24,972 --> 00:58:26,741
of "New York, New York"
that Kander and Ebb wrote
980
00:58:26,807 --> 00:58:28,442
and said, "Nah, I
don't like that.
981
00:58:28,509 --> 00:58:30,711
Go back and write
something else."
982
00:58:30,778 --> 00:58:33,414
And can I tell you
how pissed John Kander
983
00:58:33,481 --> 00:58:35,616
and Fred Ebb were
that Robert De Niro
984
00:58:35,683 --> 00:58:38,119
is telling them they have
to write another song?
985
00:58:38,185 --> 00:58:41,555
And out of anger, they
wrote this second song
986
00:58:41,622 --> 00:58:45,026
that became the iconic "New
York, New York" that we know.
987
00:58:46,394 --> 00:58:49,230
-In case you don't
know this, folks,
988
00:58:49,296 --> 00:58:52,967
this little girl did this song
before anybody did this song.
989
00:58:53,034 --> 00:58:54,835
It's true, she really did.
990
00:58:54,902 --> 00:58:56,670
And I had to stick
my nose in it.
991
00:59:40,515 --> 00:59:42,483
Jack and I got
stuck in here once.
992
00:59:42,551 --> 00:59:44,585
- Looks like one
of those outer space things.
993
00:59:44,652 --> 00:59:47,522
-What? Stand on that?
994
00:59:47,588 --> 00:59:50,324
Like I always get off an
airplane like that, huh?
995
00:59:50,391 --> 00:59:53,294
Oh my God, we're somewhere,
let's put it that way.
996
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,662
- Hey, Lisa, Lisa.
997
00:59:54,728 --> 00:59:57,798
-It's Liza, you
guys, it's Liza.
998
01:00:02,269 --> 01:00:05,372
-When she went to Europe in
the 1970s after "Cabaret,"
999
01:00:05,439 --> 01:00:06,907
after "Liza with a Z,"
1000
01:00:08,409 --> 01:00:12,913
she was so busy working
so hard and did so much,
1001
01:00:12,980 --> 01:00:14,915
people couldn't
get enough of her.
1002
01:00:18,052 --> 01:00:20,087
- Liza Minnelli,
queen of the glitter
1003
01:00:20,154 --> 01:00:23,390
and the glamour of
the Hollywood, New
York, European world.
1004
01:00:23,457 --> 01:00:25,126
Wherever she goes,
1005
01:00:25,192 --> 01:00:27,261
there are people smiling,
flash bulbs popping.
1006
01:00:30,431 --> 01:00:32,333
A certifiable superstar.
1007
01:00:39,273 --> 01:00:41,775
And still the gossip
people persist.
1008
01:00:46,581 --> 01:00:48,682
-Oh no, we can't.
-Over there, over there.
1009
01:00:48,749 --> 01:00:51,685
- Let me go, Freddy.
1010
01:00:51,752 --> 01:00:55,022
-Liza has always said, "I was
born, they took a picture,"
1011
01:00:55,089 --> 01:00:58,425
so she understood how
to deal with the press
1012
01:00:58,492 --> 01:01:00,060
from a very early age.
1013
01:01:02,531 --> 01:01:05,232
It's one of the
loveliest thoughts
1014
01:01:05,299 --> 01:01:07,569
any woman could ever hold.
1015
01:01:07,636 --> 01:01:12,206
I'm not, but I hope with all
my heart that I will be soon.
1016
01:01:12,273 --> 01:01:13,608
-Let me go in front here.
1017
01:01:14,842 --> 01:01:16,677
-Why don't you
just wait a minute.
1018
01:01:21,182 --> 01:01:24,351
-Well, there's
different degrees of
ugliness, isn't there?
1019
01:01:26,220 --> 01:01:27,221
And
1020
01:01:30,457 --> 01:01:32,026
I don't really care.
1021
01:01:32,092 --> 01:01:34,061
You know, when I'm on
stage, I just do my job.
1022
01:01:34,128 --> 01:01:37,898
-Liz Minnelli has lived
her life so much in public.
1023
01:01:37,965 --> 01:01:40,535
The burden of that
must be profound.
1024
01:01:40,602 --> 01:01:43,304
There's the demand she must
show up as Liza Minnelli.
1025
01:01:43,370 --> 01:01:45,706
-I am really thrilled
that they're all here.
1026
01:01:47,007 --> 01:01:48,643
It's a little bit scary though.
1027
01:01:50,545 --> 01:01:53,480
-I remember talking
to her after a party
1028
01:01:53,548 --> 01:01:55,950
that she had been to and I
said, "How was the party?"
1029
01:01:56,016 --> 01:01:59,019
And she said, "Oh, it was
okay. They wanted her."
1030
01:01:59,086 --> 01:02:00,454
And I said, "What do you mean?"
1031
01:02:00,522 --> 01:02:02,122
She said, "You know,
the sequin girl.
1032
01:02:02,189 --> 01:02:04,024
I just wanted to be, you know,
1033
01:02:04,091 --> 01:02:07,861
the nice lady at the dinner
table and they wanted her."
1034
01:02:14,703 --> 01:02:18,472
-After the press, the
photographs, the concerts,
1035
01:02:18,540 --> 01:02:22,544
the rehearsals, being on
stage is her safety zone.
1036
01:02:22,611 --> 01:02:24,613
She is most comfortable there.
1037
01:02:29,517 --> 01:02:32,587
♪ And as for me, ha ♪
1038
01:02:44,865 --> 01:02:48,202
-Jesus, man, I wonder
if they like it.
1039
01:02:48,269 --> 01:02:50,572
-Are they still yelling?
-They're still screaming.
1040
01:02:50,639 --> 01:02:52,806
-Isn't that swell?
1041
01:02:52,873 --> 01:02:54,643
-There's nobody leaving
the theater at all.
1042
01:02:54,709 --> 01:02:56,377
- They are just
standing there, stomping.
1043
01:02:56,443 --> 01:02:59,313
You gotta go out and listen.
1044
01:03:01,882 --> 01:03:04,719
-Liza needs the
audience to love her.
1045
01:03:13,595 --> 01:03:17,532
Maybe in someone else's hands
that would be offputting,
1046
01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:21,035
but with Liza, it's that need
1047
01:03:21,101 --> 01:03:24,572
and that herculean effort to
make the connection with us.
1048
01:03:24,639 --> 01:03:28,842
♪ I need your love ♪
1049
01:03:28,909 --> 01:03:32,846
♪ That's true, yes, I do ♪
1050
01:03:32,913 --> 01:03:34,716
♪ Indeed, I do ♪
1051
01:03:34,783 --> 01:03:36,850
♪ You know I do ♪
1052
01:03:36,917 --> 01:03:38,085
- How long have
you been out there?
1053
01:03:38,152 --> 01:03:40,020
-Six hours.
-Six hours?
1054
01:03:41,422 --> 01:03:44,191
♪ What I cry for ♪
1055
01:03:44,258 --> 01:03:48,697
♪ You know you got
that kind of lovin' ♪
1056
01:03:48,763 --> 01:03:52,366
♪ That I starve for ♪
1057
01:03:52,433 --> 01:03:57,505
♪ You know you made me ♪
1058
01:04:01,475 --> 01:04:06,548
♪ Love ♪
1059
01:04:07,981 --> 01:04:09,883
♪ You ♪
1060
01:04:34,007 --> 01:04:38,245
-Liza deeply, deeply
cares about friends.
1061
01:04:39,980 --> 01:04:42,449
If you need something, she
is there for you on a level
1062
01:04:42,517 --> 01:04:44,184
that is rare.
1063
01:04:47,722 --> 01:04:52,192
She flew from Rome for
two days to Los Angeles
1064
01:04:52,259 --> 01:04:54,763
to record a duet with me
on one of my early albums
1065
01:04:54,829 --> 01:04:56,698
because she wanted
to be there for me.
1066
01:04:56,765 --> 01:04:59,333
- We're
backstage at the Muni.
1067
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:00,869
I'm going to see Michael.
1068
01:05:00,934 --> 01:05:03,370
Hans Christian Anderson.
It's so exciting.
1069
01:05:03,437 --> 01:05:05,339
And this is a closeup,
I promise you.
1070
01:05:05,406 --> 01:05:07,809
-It was something
that was difficult
1071
01:05:07,876 --> 01:05:11,445
and it was at great
financial expense,
1072
01:05:13,113 --> 01:05:15,048
but she was there because
that's what a friend does.
1073
01:05:15,115 --> 01:05:18,452
It's that sort of thing
that she will do anything
1074
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,320
for you if you need it.
1075
01:05:28,897 --> 01:05:33,967
I met Liza Minnelli through
her godfather, Ira Gershwin.
1076
01:05:34,636 --> 01:05:36,336
When I met Liza,
1077
01:05:36,403 --> 01:05:38,338
it was very much like
meeting a long lost cousin
1078
01:05:38,405 --> 01:05:40,742
or a sibling or a family member.
1079
01:05:49,584 --> 01:05:52,687
I remember when we met at
her father's house, she said,
1080
01:05:52,754 --> 01:05:55,322
"You know, from now on
we're joined at the hip."
1081
01:05:55,389 --> 01:05:58,392
- This is
fabulous, oh, honey.
1082
01:05:58,459 --> 01:06:02,897
-I think if the public
sees Liza as a barrel
1083
01:06:02,963 --> 01:06:06,768
of sequins and glamour,
they've got her wrong.
1084
01:06:06,835 --> 01:06:10,404
Her friends, or the thing
that those friends get right,
1085
01:06:10,471 --> 01:06:15,242
is Liza's vulnerability,
her kindness,
1086
01:06:15,309 --> 01:06:20,147
and her desire for you
to be friends with her.
1087
01:06:20,214 --> 01:06:22,617
-Liza, can make you feel like
1088
01:06:22,684 --> 01:06:24,853
the most important
person in the world.
1089
01:06:24,919 --> 01:06:27,722
Her gaze is so fixed on you.
1090
01:06:27,789 --> 01:06:30,925
I don't know if it's
her need to be loved,
1091
01:06:30,991 --> 01:06:35,395
but it's shocking 'cause
that's an unusual quality
1092
01:06:35,462 --> 01:06:37,765
in somebody in show business.
1093
01:06:42,436 --> 01:06:44,572
- "Chicago,"
starring Gwen Verdon,
Chita Rivera,
1094
01:06:44,639 --> 01:06:47,441
and Jerry Orbach,
directed by Bob Fosse.
1095
01:06:48,643 --> 01:06:51,713
-In "Chicago,"
Gwen Verdon had to
1096
01:06:51,779 --> 01:06:56,083
take a six week leave of
absence to have some surgery
1097
01:06:56,149 --> 01:07:01,221
and it looked as if maybe
the show might have to close.
1098
01:07:02,624 --> 01:07:04,224
-And everything's
going well, how are you?
1099
01:07:04,291 --> 01:07:06,728
And Fred said, "We're
in terrible trouble."
1100
01:07:07,729 --> 01:07:09,463
I said, "I'll fill in for her."
1101
01:07:09,531 --> 01:07:12,800
-And it was the first
time in Broadway history
1102
01:07:12,867 --> 01:07:17,471
that a major superstar
acted as a substitute
1103
01:07:17,539 --> 01:07:20,173
for a another star that left.
1104
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,109
-They actually discovered
her and said, "You're a star.
1105
01:07:22,175 --> 01:07:24,177
You can't be a substitute.
You can't be an understudy."
1106
01:07:24,244 --> 01:07:25,647
And she says, "I wanna do
it. I wanna save the show."
1107
01:07:25,713 --> 01:07:27,247
And she did, she saved the show.
1108
01:07:27,314 --> 01:07:29,483
-The people who wrote that show
1109
01:07:29,551 --> 01:07:30,919
are Fred Ebb and John Kander.
1110
01:07:30,985 --> 01:07:32,787
And as you know,
they're my best friends
1111
01:07:32,854 --> 01:07:36,290
and Fred Ebb has guided my
career since I've been 17.
1112
01:07:36,356 --> 01:07:40,695
It's really saying, "If you
need somebody, I'm there."
1113
01:07:40,762 --> 01:07:44,766
-Liza learned that
entire part in one week,
1114
01:07:44,832 --> 01:07:47,267
and I'm telling you one week.
1115
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:51,839
-But she said, "You
don't say my name.
1116
01:07:51,906 --> 01:07:53,508
I don't want
publicity about that.
1117
01:07:53,575 --> 01:07:55,009
I want word of mouth.
1118
01:07:55,075 --> 01:07:56,243
And when people go
into the theater,
1119
01:07:56,310 --> 01:07:57,879
I just want an announcement."
1120
01:07:57,946 --> 01:08:00,515
-I'm sorry, tonight
the role of Roxy Hart,
1121
01:08:00,582 --> 01:08:05,687
usually played by Gwen
Verdon, audience, "Oh.."
1122
01:08:06,688 --> 01:08:08,288
Will be played by Liza Minnelli.
1123
01:08:08,690 --> 01:08:11,059
Roars of excitement.
1124
01:08:11,124 --> 01:08:15,128
And Liza was fucking
brilliant in the part.
1125
01:08:21,368 --> 01:08:22,971
What motivated her to do it,
1126
01:08:23,037 --> 01:08:27,508
I can only say is like
the best part of Liza.
1127
01:08:27,575 --> 01:08:31,879
I think she did it as a
favor and she saved the show.
1128
01:08:39,453 --> 01:08:41,154
-And the only reason
she would do that
1129
01:08:41,221 --> 01:08:44,092
is because it was
for her friends.
1130
01:08:48,428 --> 01:08:51,699
-When we met Liza, I was
a dentist in New York.
1131
01:08:51,766 --> 01:08:54,002
Arlene was a housewife.
1132
01:08:54,068 --> 01:08:56,704
It was a dinner party
at Elaine's restaurant
1133
01:08:56,771 --> 01:08:58,171
and we just hit it off.
1134
01:08:58,238 --> 01:09:01,075
It was a great
chemistry, I would say.
1135
01:09:02,409 --> 01:09:03,511
-We just had a
connection that we felt
1136
01:09:03,578 --> 01:09:05,046
great being with each other
1137
01:09:05,113 --> 01:09:06,781
and the conversation
just kept flowing.
1138
01:09:06,848 --> 01:09:10,118
-49 years later, we're
still best friends with her.
1139
01:09:12,252 --> 01:09:16,356
When she meets somebody,
she is so warm to them
1140
01:09:16,423 --> 01:09:20,728
and friendly that people
will meet her once or twice
1141
01:09:20,795 --> 01:09:24,098
and come away feeling
she's their best friend.
1142
01:09:26,768 --> 01:09:28,136
-It's so real. I
mean, she doesn't think
1143
01:09:28,201 --> 01:09:30,071
of herself as being a star.
1144
01:09:30,138 --> 01:09:32,472
She thinks of herself as the
people around me made me a star
1145
01:09:32,540 --> 01:09:33,741
because I picked
talented people.
1146
01:09:33,808 --> 01:09:35,475
She's really modest that way.
1147
01:09:40,982 --> 01:09:45,252
-Hi, Liza, it's me.
-Baby!
1148
01:09:45,318 --> 01:09:47,254
-I hear you had a
party last night.
1149
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:48,890
I wish I could have been there,
1150
01:09:48,956 --> 01:09:50,792
but I'm in Connecticut
still, as you know.
1151
01:09:50,858 --> 01:09:53,561
-Oh no, but when you come
out here, you're living here.
1152
01:09:53,628 --> 01:09:55,830
-I will be there. I will
stay with you, of course.
1153
01:09:55,897 --> 01:09:57,431
It'll be like old times.
1154
01:09:57,497 --> 01:09:59,634
-We've been joined
at the hips forever.
1155
01:09:59,701 --> 01:10:01,903
-We were in the same preschool,
1156
01:10:01,969 --> 01:10:05,205
but we really came
together again as friends
1157
01:10:05,272 --> 01:10:06,941
when we were about 15.
1158
01:10:11,145 --> 01:10:14,414
We were in this photo
shoot for "17 Magazine."
1159
01:10:14,481 --> 01:10:17,685
After the photo
shoot, I was exhausted
1160
01:10:17,752 --> 01:10:21,321
and wanted to go get an ice
cream cone or something.
1161
01:10:21,388 --> 01:10:23,457
Liza was going to
her dance class.
1162
01:10:23,524 --> 01:10:27,795
She knew at 15 that this
is what she wanted to do.
1163
01:10:27,862 --> 01:10:29,764
She wanted to sing,
she wanted to dance.
1164
01:10:29,831 --> 01:10:32,066
She was gonna be a great actor.
1165
01:10:33,668 --> 01:10:36,838
Movie stars at the time,
they didn't look like Liza,
1166
01:10:36,904 --> 01:10:40,174
but she never doubted that
this is what she was gonna do.
1167
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,275
She was goal-oriented.
1168
01:10:45,113 --> 01:10:48,015
I know a lot of people who've
been through a lot of stuff
1169
01:10:48,082 --> 01:10:51,351
and people get cynical,
people get angry,
1170
01:10:51,418 --> 01:10:56,524
but Liza's the same
pure person inside.
1171
01:10:57,959 --> 01:11:00,161
I've not heard her say
bad things about anyone,
1172
01:11:00,228 --> 01:11:01,729
not in any gratuitous way.
1173
01:11:01,796 --> 01:11:05,666
She trusts way beyond
what is rational.
1174
01:11:05,733 --> 01:11:10,403
There is a purity of
heart that's unmistakable.
1175
01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:11,606
-Bye, darling.
1176
01:11:24,118 --> 01:11:27,021
-So I'm out with my
wife, Michael Feinstein,
1177
01:11:27,088 --> 01:11:29,924
Mitzi Gaynor, and
Liza fucking Minnelli.
1178
01:11:29,991 --> 01:11:31,893
Michael goes,
"Let's play a song."
1179
01:11:31,959 --> 01:11:35,663
And so he plays one
and I sing a tune.
1180
01:11:42,402 --> 01:11:46,007
And then it was Liza's turn.
1181
01:11:47,942 --> 01:11:50,545
This is like incredible,
I'm sitting with this icon
1182
01:11:50,611 --> 01:11:53,380
and it was beautiful
what she sang.
1183
01:11:58,418 --> 01:12:01,222
At the end of the night,
she's grabbing everybody
1184
01:12:01,289 --> 01:12:03,224
and just saying, you know,
this was, I can't do,
1185
01:12:03,291 --> 01:12:04,859
I'm not gonna do a
Liza impersonation,
1186
01:12:04,926 --> 01:12:06,561
don't make me do that.
But she, you know,
1187
01:12:06,627 --> 01:12:08,428
she's grabbing everybody
and goes, "This was great.
1188
01:12:08,495 --> 01:12:13,134
This is great. This is the
gang now, this is the gang."
1189
01:12:14,702 --> 01:12:17,104
And when she left I was
like, "I'm in the gang now?
1190
01:12:17,171 --> 01:12:18,739
It's amazing." And then I went,
1191
01:12:18,806 --> 01:12:21,209
"How many people has
she said that to?"
1192
01:12:21,275 --> 01:12:24,612
I just like the idea that she
just made us feel so special.
1193
01:12:24,679 --> 01:12:29,517
I so enjoyed that sentiment
of this was a good hang.
1194
01:12:37,457 --> 01:12:38,893
-It's gonna take a miracle.
1195
01:12:40,561 --> 01:12:42,063
Tina.
-Yeah?
1196
01:12:42,129 --> 01:12:43,898
-Gotta perform a
miracle on my fache.
1197
01:12:45,299 --> 01:12:46,834
-Liza and I became
very close friends
1198
01:12:46,901 --> 01:12:50,605
because my husband and
I went on tour with her
1199
01:12:50,671 --> 01:12:53,941
and of course they did
many movies with her
1200
01:12:54,008 --> 01:12:55,943
and you couldn't help with Liza.
1201
01:12:56,010 --> 01:12:58,079
You became very close with her.
1202
01:12:59,847 --> 01:13:03,618
Liza always liked to surround
herself with her friends.
1203
01:13:03,684 --> 01:13:06,120
Liza wouldn't do the show
unless they hired me.
1204
01:13:06,187 --> 01:13:09,056
I wasn't in the union,
they didn't let me in.
1205
01:13:10,725 --> 01:13:13,194
They didn't have
women makeup artists
1206
01:13:13,261 --> 01:13:15,428
so Liza stood up for me
1207
01:13:15,495 --> 01:13:18,299
and I was one of the first
women makeup artists ever.
1208
01:13:18,366 --> 01:13:20,868
She was very loyal
to her friends
1209
01:13:20,935 --> 01:13:22,502
and they were loyal to her.
1210
01:13:22,570 --> 01:13:25,039
-Are you committed
now to settling down?
1211
01:13:25,106 --> 01:13:27,541
-Yes.
-Well, tell me about it.
1212
01:13:27,608 --> 01:13:29,442
-I desperately want a family.
1213
01:13:31,779 --> 01:13:32,780
I...
1214
01:13:35,950 --> 01:13:37,952
I really want a family.
1215
01:13:48,062 --> 01:13:52,166
-We have been with Liza at
all of her emotional setbacks,
1216
01:13:52,233 --> 01:13:53,601
like miscarriages.
1217
01:13:56,404 --> 01:13:57,805
- She was all in,
1218
01:13:57,872 --> 01:13:59,774
she was all prepared,
it was very sad.
1219
01:14:00,975 --> 01:14:02,475
-Can't hear you,
what'd you say?
1220
01:14:02,543 --> 01:14:04,477
- If she had
to pick one thing
1221
01:14:04,545 --> 01:14:06,479
that she's disappointed
in her life
1222
01:14:06,547 --> 01:14:08,115
and that's not being a mother.
1223
01:14:09,317 --> 01:14:10,718
She would've been
a great mother.
1224
01:14:10,785 --> 01:14:11,819
- She
would've been terrific.
1225
01:14:13,453 --> 01:14:14,989
-She has so much to give.
1226
01:14:15,056 --> 01:14:17,925
-She's always had a
lot of love to give.
1227
01:14:17,992 --> 01:14:20,695
- She's been so
wonderful with our children.
1228
01:14:20,761 --> 01:14:24,365
We have a picture when our
daughter was three years old
1229
01:14:24,432 --> 01:14:27,234
around a Christmas
tree, Liza hugging her,
1230
01:14:27,301 --> 01:14:32,340
and then 35 years later when
our daughter had a 3-year-old,
1231
01:14:33,908 --> 01:14:35,409
we have a picture around
that same Christmas tree.
1232
01:14:35,475 --> 01:14:37,411
-Three generation's,
the same picture.
1233
01:14:37,945 --> 01:14:39,847
She taught our daughter when
she was about six years old
1234
01:14:39,914 --> 01:14:42,917
how to sing "Liza with a Z"
quickly and sing every lyric.
1235
01:14:42,984 --> 01:14:44,518
Our daughter was
so proud to sing it
1236
01:14:44,585 --> 01:14:46,921
and sang it all over the
place and for everybody.
1237
01:14:46,988 --> 01:14:48,856
-She would've been
an incredible mother
1238
01:14:48,923 --> 01:14:51,959
and life wasn't perfect.
-Right.
1239
01:14:53,694 --> 01:14:57,331
-But she moved on and she's
become part of our family.
1240
01:14:59,100 --> 01:15:02,570
I think that's part of
our attraction for her,
1241
01:15:02,636 --> 01:15:05,206
that we've kept this bond.
1242
01:15:05,272 --> 01:15:08,909
We're sort of the
family she didn't have.
1243
01:15:08,976 --> 01:15:11,445
-Even though she wasn't able
to have children of her own,
1244
01:15:11,512 --> 01:15:14,382
she seems to have
created her own family
1245
01:15:14,448 --> 01:15:16,717
through all the children
who came into her life
1246
01:15:16,784 --> 01:15:18,719
and all the godchildren.
1247
01:15:20,454 --> 01:15:23,457
-I mean, she's godmother
to my twins who are 50 now.
1248
01:15:23,524 --> 01:15:26,127
I mean, and she's never
missed a birthday, anything.
1249
01:15:26,193 --> 01:15:28,729
-She's a godmother
to one of my sons.
1250
01:15:28,796 --> 01:15:30,664
I was pregnant on tour with her.
1251
01:15:31,732 --> 01:15:33,367
Liza was so protective of me
1252
01:15:34,835 --> 01:15:37,405
and I ended up in the
hospital after I had him
1253
01:15:37,471 --> 01:15:39,173
and she was there all the time
1254
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,009
and she brought Sammy
Davis the tap dance for me.
1255
01:15:46,547 --> 01:15:48,849
I think she feels safe with
people that take care of her.
1256
01:15:48,916 --> 01:15:52,286
And she still calls me like
two or three times a week
1257
01:15:52,353 --> 01:15:53,788
just to talk.
1258
01:15:53,854 --> 01:15:56,190
I have children, she doesn't.
1259
01:15:56,257 --> 01:15:57,725
I think she gets lonely.
1260
01:15:59,493 --> 01:16:03,764
She doesn't say that, but I
feel that, but I would too.
1261
01:16:03,831 --> 01:16:07,601
I don't know what else to say
that I just love her so much.
1262
01:16:08,436 --> 01:16:10,337
It makes me cry
1263
01:16:10,404 --> 01:16:14,975
'cause I just think that
she did a lot for all of us
1264
01:16:15,042 --> 01:16:17,711
and at a time when
things aren't good,
1265
01:16:17,778 --> 01:16:19,180
she always came through.
1266
01:16:42,736 --> 01:16:45,673
-My father started
as a costume designer,
1267
01:16:45,739 --> 01:16:50,811
so when I was little I
was surrounded by fashion.
1268
01:16:51,812 --> 01:16:54,048
But the truth is, as a teenager,
1269
01:16:54,115 --> 01:16:56,217
I didn't care much
about clothes.
1270
01:16:56,283 --> 01:16:58,986
No, 'cause I dressed like
everybody else, mini skirts
1271
01:16:59,053 --> 01:17:01,556
and this, that and the other,
and all the wrong things
1272
01:17:01,622 --> 01:17:02,623
at that point.
1273
01:17:04,291 --> 01:17:07,761
Once I started doing more
one-woman shows and concerts,
1274
01:17:07,828 --> 01:17:12,366
I saw how fashion could
be part of the stories
1275
01:17:12,433 --> 01:17:14,969
that I would tell in the songs.
1276
01:17:16,637 --> 01:17:20,107
I knew I needed a new look
that I could call my own,
1277
01:17:20,174 --> 01:17:24,879
one that would reflects me
and connect with the audience.
1278
01:17:24,945 --> 01:17:28,482
Halston I met
through Kay Thompson.
1279
01:17:31,185 --> 01:17:33,220
-They were at Bergdorf Goodman.
1280
01:17:33,287 --> 01:17:35,122
Liza sees a dress on a mannequin
1281
01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:36,790
and says, 'Oh my
God, look at the cut.
1282
01:17:36,857 --> 01:17:38,459
Look at the style
of that dress."
1283
01:17:38,527 --> 01:17:40,427
She said, "That is
brilliant. Who did that?"
1284
01:17:40,494 --> 01:17:44,198
And Kay Thompson said, "It's
Halston, let me introduce you."
1285
01:17:44,265 --> 01:17:46,967
And she takes Liza upstairs
and introduces her to Halston.
1286
01:17:47,034 --> 01:17:51,606
-For me, being around Halston
was as if I were around
1287
01:17:51,672 --> 01:17:56,777
a religious entity, a
pope, a king, a god.
1288
01:17:58,379 --> 01:18:00,314
- The most
successful single individual
1289
01:18:00,381 --> 01:18:02,551
in the history of
American fashion.
1290
01:18:12,993 --> 01:18:15,597
-I think what
influences design most
1291
01:18:15,664 --> 01:18:17,498
is the people that you dress
1292
01:18:17,566 --> 01:18:19,634
and they tell you pretty
much what they want
1293
01:18:19,700 --> 01:18:21,435
and what they need.
1294
01:18:21,502 --> 01:18:24,673
Know yourself, know
what suits your purposes
1295
01:18:24,738 --> 01:18:27,441
to make you more attractive
and more comfortable.
1296
01:18:27,509 --> 01:18:30,077
-When we speak
about the '70s style,
1297
01:18:30,144 --> 01:18:33,682
American fashion
coming into its own,
1298
01:18:35,883 --> 01:18:38,919
Halston is at the
forefront of that.
1299
01:18:38,986 --> 01:18:40,487
He grew up in the Midwest
1300
01:18:40,555 --> 01:18:42,489
and he started his
career by making hats.
1301
01:18:42,557 --> 01:18:44,124
He became famous
when he designed
1302
01:18:44,191 --> 01:18:46,260
Jackie Kennedy's pillbox hat.
1303
01:18:47,795 --> 01:18:51,332
Soon though, he moved
on to design clothing.
1304
01:18:51,398 --> 01:18:53,267
-The beauty of Halston was
1305
01:18:53,334 --> 01:18:56,837
that it was architecturally
amazing and it functioned.
1306
01:18:56,904 --> 01:18:58,305
- In other words,
1307
01:18:58,372 --> 01:19:00,007
I think people
have to work harder
1308
01:19:00,074 --> 01:19:02,209
so they need clothes for
those different occasions.
1309
01:19:02,276 --> 01:19:03,978
-Clean, simple.
1310
01:19:04,044 --> 01:19:06,413
It's even more complicated
when you have simple.
1311
01:19:08,215 --> 01:19:11,885
When I first came to work for
Halston, it was taught to me
1312
01:19:11,952 --> 01:19:14,788
that fabric needs
to talk to you.
1313
01:19:14,855 --> 01:19:16,790
How does a fabric talk to you?
1314
01:19:18,959 --> 01:19:22,530
We would literally take fabric
and put it on a mannequin
1315
01:19:22,597 --> 01:19:27,234
and sometimes look at it for
three days and things appear
1316
01:19:27,301 --> 01:19:30,572
when you keep looking at them,
it starts talking to you.
1317
01:19:32,106 --> 01:19:35,543
And in a sense, it'll tell
you what it wants to do.
1318
01:19:35,610 --> 01:19:37,378
The cuts are simple
1319
01:19:37,444 --> 01:19:41,048
because the fabric is left
to do what it wants to do
1320
01:19:41,115 --> 01:19:43,050
and that was the
genius of Halston.
1321
01:19:44,753 --> 01:19:49,023
-Halston was a very
down to earth, practical,
1322
01:19:49,089 --> 01:19:53,728
funny man, which I have
not seen depicted recently.
1323
01:19:53,827 --> 01:19:57,666
Underneath all of the darling
this and darling that,
1324
01:19:57,732 --> 01:20:01,268
there was a real wonderful
guy who found his way
1325
01:20:01,335 --> 01:20:03,203
to create his own paradise
1326
01:20:03,270 --> 01:20:05,873
and he was able to
do that with Liza.
1327
01:20:05,939 --> 01:20:08,842
-I met Halston when I was 19
1328
01:20:08,909 --> 01:20:11,011
and I had no idea how to look,
1329
01:20:11,078 --> 01:20:14,749
you know, it affects
not just how you dress,
1330
01:20:14,815 --> 01:20:18,385
but how you feel,
how you perform.
1331
01:20:18,452 --> 01:20:21,790
He was the first one
that gave me confidence.
1332
01:20:21,855 --> 01:20:26,193
I had the eye to
know what was good
1333
01:20:27,828 --> 01:20:30,364
and what wasn't that great,
but he knew what to do.
1334
01:20:30,431 --> 01:20:32,433
-When she met Halston,
1335
01:20:32,499 --> 01:20:37,037
he gave her an
entire sense of self.
1336
01:20:37,104 --> 01:20:40,040
-Halston was able to
take what she considered
1337
01:20:40,107 --> 01:20:42,876
to be negatives about her
body and her self-image
1338
01:20:42,943 --> 01:20:44,612
and turn them into positives.
1339
01:20:44,679 --> 01:20:46,447
She had scoliosis.
1340
01:20:46,514 --> 01:20:49,249
She felt that her body was
not symmetrically perfect,
1341
01:20:49,316 --> 01:20:53,053
all these things that she
was insecure about, he used.
1342
01:20:54,823 --> 01:20:58,660
-Technically, Halston
paid very acute attention
1343
01:20:58,727 --> 01:21:01,128
to Liza's clothes.
1344
01:21:01,195 --> 01:21:03,297
Halston was the one
who said to Liza,
1345
01:21:03,364 --> 01:21:06,133
"Since you're perspiring
so much on stage,
1346
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:10,104
let's make all of your
wardrobe in sequins."
1347
01:21:10,170 --> 01:21:12,406
So with the sparkle,
you can't see
1348
01:21:12,473 --> 01:21:15,577
where the perspiration
starts and stops.
1349
01:21:15,643 --> 01:21:19,848
And also because Liza's
weight would often fluctuate,
1350
01:21:19,913 --> 01:21:22,316
Halston would often
make two and three
1351
01:21:22,383 --> 01:21:27,488
or sometimes four of the same
garment in different sizes
1352
01:21:28,889 --> 01:21:31,425
so he would be prepared
with her current figure.
1353
01:21:32,926 --> 01:21:36,497
Liza went from a
pretty little girl
1354
01:21:37,498 --> 01:21:39,366
representing mainstream fashion
1355
01:21:41,870 --> 01:21:45,540
overnight to the chicest
girl in the world.
1356
01:21:48,108 --> 01:21:50,712
-The adoration that Liza and
Halston had for each other
1357
01:21:50,779 --> 01:21:53,681
was always palpable when I
was in the room with them.
1358
01:21:53,748 --> 01:21:58,520
They had this deep, deep
love and shared the humor
1359
01:21:58,586 --> 01:22:00,387
and the irony of life together.
1360
01:22:04,692 --> 01:22:08,128
-I never performed,
gave a party
1361
01:22:09,930 --> 01:22:14,736
or made any real major
important decisions in my life
1362
01:22:15,737 --> 01:22:18,138
without my friend, Halston.
1363
01:22:20,608 --> 01:22:22,544
When we were together,
it was heaven.
1364
01:22:23,210 --> 01:22:24,278
You know.
1365
01:22:24,445 --> 01:22:26,980
I'm so lucky and I know that.
1366
01:22:29,950 --> 01:22:32,352
-When Liza and
Halston were together,
1367
01:22:32,419 --> 01:22:34,321
it's like nobody
else was in the room.
1368
01:22:34,388 --> 01:22:35,924
They were so comfortable
with each other.
1369
01:22:35,989 --> 01:22:38,893
They would hug and
kiss and cuddle
1370
01:22:38,959 --> 01:22:41,094
and just cling to
each other in a way
1371
01:22:41,161 --> 01:22:42,564
that was so beautiful.
1372
01:22:43,964 --> 01:22:46,734
-When Liza would arrive
at Halston's office,
1373
01:22:46,801 --> 01:22:50,170
she brought that
zest, the two of them,
1374
01:22:50,237 --> 01:22:52,272
they had nicknames
for one another,
1375
01:22:52,339 --> 01:22:54,141
usually perverse nicknames.
1376
01:22:55,577 --> 01:22:58,212
It was a brother and
sister relationship.
1377
01:22:58,278 --> 01:23:01,348
It was also very
paternal on his side.
1378
01:23:01,415 --> 01:23:03,283
They brought each other to life.
1379
01:23:03,350 --> 01:23:05,219
-And having lunch
with Halston and her,
1380
01:23:05,285 --> 01:23:08,088
we would have conversations
of the next show she's doing
1381
01:23:08,155 --> 01:23:09,724
and what are we gonna design,
1382
01:23:09,791 --> 01:23:11,291
and there were nights
that we would all go
1383
01:23:11,358 --> 01:23:12,760
to Studio 54 together.
1384
01:23:12,827 --> 01:23:15,195
♪ Freak out ♪
1385
01:23:17,164 --> 01:23:19,968
-Studio 54 is probably
the Mount Olympus
1386
01:23:20,033 --> 01:23:21,101
of the disco world.
1387
01:23:21,168 --> 01:23:24,137
♪ Freak out ♪
1388
01:23:24,204 --> 01:23:26,941
-It was like the
circus pulled into town.
1389
01:23:28,275 --> 01:23:29,944
-They're the inspirational
people.
1390
01:23:33,380 --> 01:23:35,148
-Did that involve
a lot of things?
1391
01:23:35,215 --> 01:23:37,351
Yeah, that's been documented.
1392
01:23:39,052 --> 01:23:43,892
-I mean, you had quaaludes,
you had poppers, cocaine.
1393
01:23:44,893 --> 01:23:47,160
-Hold it, it wasn't that wacko.
1394
01:23:47,227 --> 01:23:52,232
And as far as drugs was
concerned, nobody did drugs.
1395
01:23:54,002 --> 01:23:55,502
They just didn't.
1396
01:23:57,705 --> 01:24:00,942
-Liza is reluctant to
talk about Studio 54
1397
01:24:01,009 --> 01:24:05,914
because everybody focuses on
the excess and the basement
1398
01:24:05,980 --> 01:24:07,515
and the debauchery and all that.
1399
01:24:07,582 --> 01:24:12,687
For her, studio 54
was a cultural thing.
1400
01:24:14,087 --> 01:24:15,523
-What happened with
Studio 54 is Halston
1401
01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:17,659
used to give these
wonderful parties
1402
01:24:19,027 --> 01:24:21,128
and around 11 or 12
o'clock at night,
1403
01:24:21,194 --> 01:24:22,964
he didn't know how
to get rid of people.
1404
01:24:23,031 --> 01:24:26,199
He would say to his guests,
let's all go to Studio 54
1405
01:24:26,266 --> 01:24:28,101
to get 'em out of the apartment.
1406
01:24:29,436 --> 01:24:31,639
-I would just let
the doormen know.
1407
01:24:31,706 --> 01:24:33,942
So they would just
be alerted to them
1408
01:24:34,008 --> 01:24:36,978
because it was a sea of people.
1409
01:24:37,045 --> 01:24:38,980
You can't even believe
the whole block
1410
01:24:39,047 --> 01:24:40,715
sometimes were filled.
1411
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:47,387
And then they would go
1412
01:24:47,454 --> 01:24:50,024
and escort them in
if they needed to,
1413
01:24:52,092 --> 01:24:53,561
and the seas would part.
1414
01:25:01,769 --> 01:25:03,972
-They would have some
banquettes in the center
1415
01:25:04,038 --> 01:25:09,109
of the dance floor and Halston
would hold court with Liza
1416
01:25:10,110 --> 01:25:12,580
and Andy Warhol, Bianca Jagger.
1417
01:25:14,082 --> 01:25:16,216
-Liza used to
love rum and coke.
1418
01:25:16,283 --> 01:25:17,417
Halston used to smoke.
1419
01:25:17,484 --> 01:25:19,353
She used to smoke cigarettes.
1420
01:25:19,419 --> 01:25:21,689
But all I remember is being
with Halston and being with Liza
1421
01:25:21,756 --> 01:25:25,693
and all of us having
the best happy times.
1422
01:25:29,664 --> 01:25:30,832
-He wasn't just a friend
1423
01:25:30,898 --> 01:25:33,534
and a party buddy at Studio 54.
1424
01:25:33,601 --> 01:25:36,671
They were each other's muse.
1425
01:25:36,738 --> 01:25:38,773
-You think of what
Halston got from Liza
1426
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,742
and what Liza got from Halston
1427
01:25:40,808 --> 01:25:44,946
and obviously Studio 54,
talk about genius branding.
1428
01:25:46,413 --> 01:25:51,284
-Liza became so much
of the female figure
1429
01:25:52,252 --> 01:25:53,955
that allowed women to see
1430
01:25:54,022 --> 01:25:57,058
how extraordinarily
wondrous Halston was.
1431
01:25:57,125 --> 01:25:58,893
Liza was a blueprint
for Halston,
1432
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,928
Halston was a
blueprint for Liza.
1433
01:26:00,995 --> 01:26:04,899
-The mythology of Studio 54
depends upon its associations
1434
01:26:04,966 --> 01:26:07,969
to cultural icons who
themselves were seen
1435
01:26:08,036 --> 01:26:09,604
as figures of excess,
1436
01:26:09,671 --> 01:26:11,606
and Liza Minnelli, the
company of Halston,
1437
01:26:11,673 --> 01:26:13,240
is in some sense one
1438
01:26:13,306 --> 01:26:15,043
of the most sequined
figures for that era.
1439
01:26:15,109 --> 01:26:17,145
-Can I say one more thing?
1440
01:26:17,210 --> 01:26:19,013
The very first collection
1441
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:22,817
that Halston showed at the
Olympic Tower was mind boggling.
1442
01:26:32,126 --> 01:26:33,561
Liza closed the show.
1443
01:26:33,628 --> 01:26:35,997
She came out on the runway
1444
01:26:36,064 --> 01:26:39,399
with the most extraordinary
black crepe back satin dress
1445
01:26:39,466 --> 01:26:40,735
with nude shoulders.
1446
01:26:42,235 --> 01:26:45,238
And she walked the
runway carrying one rose.
1447
01:26:45,305 --> 01:26:46,774
At the end of the runway,
1448
01:26:46,841 --> 01:26:48,543
she presented it to
Elizabeth Taylor.
1449
01:26:49,977 --> 01:26:52,080
Halston came out and
they came down together.
1450
01:26:53,881 --> 01:26:56,818
To watch them, was so touching.
1451
01:26:56,884 --> 01:27:00,755
They worked together, they
were in love together,
1452
01:27:00,822 --> 01:27:04,859
and they represented a
moment that is unmatched
1453
01:27:04,926 --> 01:27:06,894
in American fashion history.
1454
01:27:26,446 --> 01:27:27,949
- Legendary
actress and singer
1455
01:27:28,015 --> 01:27:30,484
Liza Minnelli has
checked into rehab.
1456
01:27:30,551 --> 01:27:32,352
- The veteran
entertainer is getting treatment
1457
01:27:32,419 --> 01:27:35,489
for a substance abuse
issue at a Malibu facility.
1458
01:27:35,556 --> 01:27:37,390
- A much
publicized personal battle
1459
01:27:37,457 --> 01:27:39,660
against tranquilizer addiction.
1460
01:27:39,727 --> 01:27:42,563
- A disease that
she says nearly killed her.
1461
01:27:45,933 --> 01:27:50,337
-Honestly, how lucky I
was to have gone through
1462
01:27:50,403 --> 01:27:54,474
all of the bad stuff
that I've gone through
1463
01:27:56,210 --> 01:28:00,681
because it prepared me
for the rest of my life.
1464
01:28:00,748 --> 01:28:05,586
It made me understand a
little bit more about myself.
1465
01:28:06,988 --> 01:28:08,956
-Nice to meet you.
-Nice to meet you.
1466
01:28:10,290 --> 01:28:11,092
-We're gonna sell
out this evening.
1467
01:28:11,159 --> 01:28:12,392
-Oh, fabulous.
1468
01:28:12,459 --> 01:28:15,263
-The enormity of Liza's success
1469
01:28:15,328 --> 01:28:18,398
certainly was a factor with
the incredible pressures
1470
01:28:18,465 --> 01:28:20,333
of life and of show business
1471
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:24,672
and becoming a commodity
for so many people
1472
01:28:24,739 --> 01:28:28,242
that she's supporting
financially took its toll.
1473
01:28:29,777 --> 01:28:32,379
-How you doing?
-Terrific.
1474
01:28:32,445 --> 01:28:33,614
-Hmm?
-Fine.
1475
01:28:36,684 --> 01:28:39,754
I was the kind of person
that never fell down.
1476
01:28:39,821 --> 01:28:41,589
I never missed work.
1477
01:28:41,656 --> 01:28:44,058
I never did any of the
things that you think of
1478
01:28:44,125 --> 01:28:45,927
when you think of somebody
being a real mess,
1479
01:28:45,993 --> 01:28:48,963
but inside, I felt so weird.
1480
01:28:49,030 --> 01:28:51,899
I was taking Valium,
prescription drugs,
1481
01:28:51,966 --> 01:28:55,435
but I really didn't feel
like I had a drug problem.
1482
01:28:55,502 --> 01:28:59,140
And I'd drink silly
drinks like rum and coke.
1483
01:28:59,207 --> 01:29:01,108
I started to notice
1484
01:29:02,677 --> 01:29:04,979
that drinking made me
feel better for a minute.
1485
01:29:07,114 --> 01:29:09,116
It's really that simple.
1486
01:29:09,183 --> 01:29:13,321
And then of course, it turned
on me like it always does.
1487
01:29:14,655 --> 01:29:16,356
And people who have been through
1488
01:29:17,725 --> 01:29:19,627
all the things I'm
thinking about,
1489
01:29:19,694 --> 01:29:22,997
know what I'm talking about.
1490
01:29:25,967 --> 01:29:29,369
- I never got drunk
anywhere.
1491
01:29:31,839 --> 01:29:33,140
I would like to
have, but I can't.
1492
01:29:33,207 --> 01:29:34,542
It makes my stomach sick.
1493
01:29:36,143 --> 01:29:39,247
I know in the '70s, I
used to tell interviewers
1494
01:29:39,313 --> 01:29:43,718
that I was terrified of drugs
and didn't even take aspirin.
1495
01:29:44,986 --> 01:29:47,989
Well, kids, that's
called denial.
1496
01:29:48,055 --> 01:29:51,959
I didn't want anyone to know
that I was less than perfect,
1497
01:29:52,026 --> 01:29:54,195
that I was under stress.
1498
01:29:54,262 --> 01:29:56,797
I always wanted to be the hero.
1499
01:30:06,908 --> 01:30:11,178
-She has this incredible
strength that I'm gonna do this.
1500
01:30:11,245 --> 01:30:13,281
I can do this, and
at the same time,
1501
01:30:13,347 --> 01:30:16,017
she has this vulnerability,
1502
01:30:16,083 --> 01:30:19,687
she has nervousness,
she has fear.
1503
01:30:19,754 --> 01:30:24,558
-The dark stuff, the drug
stuff, whatever it was,
1504
01:30:24,625 --> 01:30:28,896
she thought that being alive
1505
01:30:30,531 --> 01:30:34,802
and open and playful and
sexy and all of those things,
1506
01:30:37,138 --> 01:30:41,842
she inherited some
of that from her mom.
1507
01:30:41,909 --> 01:30:44,312
-When Liza became
more vulnerable
1508
01:30:44,378 --> 01:30:47,581
and at times in her
life, I was surprised
1509
01:30:47,648 --> 01:30:50,117
because she better
than anyone knew
1510
01:30:50,184 --> 01:30:55,022
and had vowed, you know,
never to be anything less
1511
01:30:55,089 --> 01:30:57,892
than the totally sharp,
responsible person.
1512
01:31:00,728 --> 01:31:03,431
-But I was very worried
1513
01:31:05,166 --> 01:31:09,737
'cause I thought she was making
some wrong moves personally
1514
01:31:11,138 --> 01:31:14,308
and I loved her and she
was like my baby sister.
1515
01:31:15,609 --> 01:31:17,111
-Watching my mom,
1516
01:31:17,178 --> 01:31:20,982
I swore on my life that
I would never take drugs
1517
01:31:21,983 --> 01:31:24,452
until I realized I was doing it.
1518
01:31:25,820 --> 01:31:27,455
You know, being Judy
Garland's daughter
1519
01:31:27,521 --> 01:31:29,690
is not a lot of laughs.
1520
01:31:29,757 --> 01:31:34,628
♪ Life is just a
bowl of cherries ♪
1521
01:31:34,695 --> 01:31:37,064
♪ Some take it serious ♪
1522
01:31:37,131 --> 01:31:40,234
♪ Life's too mysterious ♪
1523
01:31:40,301 --> 01:31:42,103
♪ You work, you say ♪
1524
01:31:42,169 --> 01:31:44,405
-So we hear stories of
what it was like to grow up
1525
01:31:44,472 --> 01:31:48,209
with a mother who was both
so unbelievably talented,
1526
01:31:48,275 --> 01:31:50,711
but also who's had,
you know, her demons,
1527
01:31:50,778 --> 01:31:52,913
struggled with alcohol
and drug addiction.
1528
01:31:52,980 --> 01:31:54,782
And Liza Minnelli tells stories
1529
01:31:54,849 --> 01:31:56,784
of her mother locking
herself in the bathroom
1530
01:31:56,851 --> 01:31:59,320
and threatening
to commit suicide.
1531
01:31:59,387 --> 01:32:01,389
-Her mother was a person
1532
01:32:01,455 --> 01:32:03,991
who deeply, deeply
loved her daughter.
1533
01:32:04,058 --> 01:32:07,928
She famously said, "I'm
giving up drugs and pills
1534
01:32:07,995 --> 01:32:10,331
and I'm going to be a good
mother for my daughter."
1535
01:32:10,398 --> 01:32:13,901
But she couldn't sustain that
because she was addicted.
1536
01:32:13,968 --> 01:32:16,971
♪ It's just a bowl of cherries ♪
1537
01:32:17,038 --> 01:32:20,975
♪ So live and laugh at it all ♪
1538
01:32:23,110 --> 01:32:25,246
-She became
incredibly protective
1539
01:32:25,312 --> 01:32:27,748
of her mother at
a very early age
1540
01:32:27,815 --> 01:32:29,784
because she
understood her mother.
1541
01:32:29,850 --> 01:32:31,852
-She's taught me a great deal.
1542
01:32:31,919 --> 01:32:33,454
- Have you learned
anything from her mistakes
1543
01:32:33,522 --> 01:32:35,256
as well as from
her achievements?
1544
01:32:36,323 --> 01:32:37,958
-Yes, I have.
1545
01:32:38,025 --> 01:32:39,760
Most of the mistakes
that have been made
1546
01:32:39,827 --> 01:32:42,496
that I've been around
have not been her fault.
1547
01:32:43,831 --> 01:32:47,601
♪ So live and you
laugh at it all ♪
1548
01:32:53,574 --> 01:32:56,343
-The relationship
was complicated,
1549
01:32:56,410 --> 01:33:01,516
and yet when she sees
her mom on TV, she melts.
1550
01:33:03,284 --> 01:33:07,588
She just admires that talent
and that person and that soul.
1551
01:33:10,525 --> 01:33:15,062
-Fred Ebb really
taught me about sobriety
1552
01:33:16,263 --> 01:33:20,634
because he started to notice
1553
01:33:20,701 --> 01:33:23,871
that I was getting a
little fuzzy on stage.
1554
01:33:23,938 --> 01:33:25,574
I was doing too much.
1555
01:33:26,941 --> 01:33:29,009
And somebody would
say, "Have a drink.
1556
01:33:29,076 --> 01:33:31,580
It'll make you feel better."
1557
01:33:31,645 --> 01:33:35,749
So I took advantage
of that.
1558
01:33:50,464 --> 01:33:54,201
-Liza knew that she
came from certain genes
1559
01:33:54,268 --> 01:33:57,671
which are addictive
and she needed help.
1560
01:34:12,653 --> 01:34:14,421
-When Liza Minnelli went
to the Betty Ford Clinic,
1561
01:34:14,488 --> 01:34:16,257
this was in the newspapers,
1562
01:34:16,323 --> 01:34:18,092
but one of the things
that's distinctive
1563
01:34:18,159 --> 01:34:20,595
about her relationship to
having been in some sense
1564
01:34:20,661 --> 01:34:23,164
outed as a celebrity with
a substance abuse problem
1565
01:34:23,230 --> 01:34:25,766
is that she didn't
run away from that.
1566
01:34:25,833 --> 01:34:27,768
She wasn't closeted
about her struggles
1567
01:34:27,835 --> 01:34:30,572
in a way that so many
other celebrities had been.
1568
01:34:30,639 --> 01:34:32,106
-I think that there
are a lot of people
1569
01:34:32,173 --> 01:34:33,807
who don't know that
they had a problem
1570
01:34:33,874 --> 01:34:36,043
like I didn't know until
I got so physically weak.
1571
01:34:36,110 --> 01:34:38,379
All prescription
drugs are the same.
1572
01:34:38,445 --> 01:34:40,281
They're insidious.
1573
01:34:40,347 --> 01:34:42,483
And at first they do do what
you take them to do with it.
1574
01:34:42,551 --> 01:34:44,553
They hold a very
busy life together.
1575
01:34:44,619 --> 01:34:46,120
But then if you don't
stop taking them,
1576
01:34:46,187 --> 01:34:47,556
you just keep merrily
going on thinking
1577
01:34:47,622 --> 01:34:49,591
that they can't hurt you.
1578
01:34:49,658 --> 01:34:51,458
Eventually become toxic.
1579
01:34:51,526 --> 01:34:53,160
-And I think that was
very brave of Liza to do
1580
01:34:53,227 --> 01:34:56,665
and I think it was
welcomed despite the shock
1581
01:34:56,730 --> 01:35:01,802
because I think people were
happy to see her not following
1582
01:35:02,836 --> 01:35:04,004
that footstep of her mother's,
1583
01:35:04,071 --> 01:35:05,973
as in just being
a hopeless case.
1584
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:08,375
-But it took a lot of guts
for you to decide to go public
1585
01:35:08,442 --> 01:35:11,145
because you put yourself
in the inevitable position
1586
01:35:11,212 --> 01:35:12,947
of them saying, "Well,
she's gonna follow
1587
01:35:13,013 --> 01:35:15,082
truly in her
mother's footsteps."
1588
01:35:15,149 --> 01:35:16,150
-I really believe
1589
01:35:19,688 --> 01:35:22,890
in saying when something's
wrong and fixing it.
1590
01:35:24,559 --> 01:35:26,260
Again, it didn't have
anything to do with my mother.
1591
01:35:26,327 --> 01:35:31,398
-She spoke so frankly
about alcoholism
1592
01:35:32,701 --> 01:35:34,201
and about addiction
that I thought
1593
01:35:34,268 --> 01:35:38,005
was the most courageous
thing she had ever done.
1594
01:35:38,072 --> 01:35:39,708
-There's thousands
of people out there
1595
01:35:39,773 --> 01:35:41,610
who are having the same problem.
1596
01:35:41,676 --> 01:35:43,578
The knowledge that
you're not alone
1597
01:35:45,012 --> 01:35:47,014
is the first step
to getting better.
1598
01:35:47,081 --> 01:35:49,416
-She became a champion of AA
1599
01:35:50,451 --> 01:35:52,654
and other treatment programs,
1600
01:35:52,721 --> 01:35:56,890
and even though she
had continued struggles
1601
01:35:56,957 --> 01:36:00,861
for different reasons
through a number of years,
1602
01:36:00,928 --> 01:36:02,263
she never gave up.
1603
01:36:02,329 --> 01:36:04,231
-She's a survivor.
1604
01:36:04,298 --> 01:36:08,369
She's come through all that
with her heart and soul intact.
1605
01:36:19,581 --> 01:36:20,582
-Liza.
-Hello.
1606
01:36:23,250 --> 01:36:27,488
Hello.
1607
01:36:27,555 --> 01:36:30,725
-It's my agent, you
don't have to applaud.
1608
01:36:32,493 --> 01:36:34,428
-So, in aftermath of
her mother's death,
1609
01:36:34,495 --> 01:36:38,932
a long decade of the
'70s, Oscar, Emmy, Tony,
1610
01:36:38,999 --> 01:36:41,569
a fixture in the cultural
scene in newspapers
1611
01:36:41,636 --> 01:36:44,004
and tabloids, this would
be an extraordinary record
1612
01:36:44,071 --> 01:36:45,439
of achievement over
an entire career,
1613
01:36:45,507 --> 01:36:48,610
let alone stuffed into a decade.
1614
01:36:48,677 --> 01:36:50,044
-Imagine that.
-You were one
1615
01:36:50,110 --> 01:36:51,245
of the.
- Thank you.
1616
01:36:51,312 --> 01:36:52,580
I'm glad you liked it.
1617
01:36:52,647 --> 01:36:54,448
-She did it.
1618
01:36:54,516 --> 01:36:56,751
This young girl who was born
into show business royalty
1619
01:36:56,817 --> 01:36:59,953
had to invent herself
who had these challenges.
1620
01:37:00,020 --> 01:37:01,922
She knew what she needed.
1621
01:37:01,989 --> 01:37:06,293
She built this loyal, loving
family of friends and mentors
1622
01:37:07,629 --> 01:37:08,763
and followed this
sort of intuition
1623
01:37:08,862 --> 01:37:11,566
to become this iconic person.
1624
01:37:11,633 --> 01:37:12,767
-Listen!
1625
01:37:18,038 --> 01:37:19,940
To the band that made
me feel like the best
1626
01:37:20,007 --> 01:37:22,076
band singer in the world,
1627
01:37:22,142 --> 01:37:24,512
I can't tell you what it's
like singing in front of you.
1628
01:37:24,579 --> 01:37:29,149
-She could have died like
her mother. She hasn't.
1629
01:37:29,216 --> 01:37:30,884
- We'd like
to thank the orchestra
1630
01:37:30,951 --> 01:37:32,654
that worked with us.
-People respond to that.
1631
01:37:32,721 --> 01:37:34,288
I think they see
the vulnerability.
1632
01:37:34,355 --> 01:37:35,824
- Really do
think you were terrific,
1633
01:37:35,889 --> 01:37:37,458
probably the best
orchestra they have.
1634
01:37:37,525 --> 01:37:39,226
-They see somebody
not unlike themselves,
1635
01:37:39,293 --> 01:37:43,430
who knows rejection,
sorrow, and loss,
1636
01:37:43,497 --> 01:37:47,602
and they see her courage
to get up on a stage
1637
01:37:47,669 --> 01:37:49,704
and put those sequins on.
1638
01:37:50,971 --> 01:37:55,242
She's brave, she
pushes on, you know?
1639
01:37:55,309 --> 01:37:58,278
- Yay!
1640
01:37:58,345 --> 01:37:59,614
- Thank you,
you're so terrific.
1641
01:38:05,219 --> 01:38:09,156
- Well said.
1642
01:38:49,597 --> 01:38:51,331
-Let's try one, what the hell.
1643
01:39:03,545 --> 01:39:08,616
♪ Sometimes you're happy
and sometimes you're sad ♪
1644
01:39:09,651 --> 01:39:14,556
♪ But the world goes round ♪
1645
01:39:15,790 --> 01:39:18,726
♪ And sometimes you lose ♪
1646
01:39:18,793 --> 01:39:21,863
♪ Every nickel you had ♪
1647
01:39:21,930 --> 01:39:26,967
♪ But the world goes round ♪
1648
01:39:29,303 --> 01:39:34,408
♪ Sometimes your dreams
get broken in pieces ♪
1649
01:39:35,643 --> 01:39:40,247
♪ But that doesn't
matter at all ♪
1650
01:39:42,416 --> 01:39:45,419
♪ Take it from me ♪
1651
01:39:45,486 --> 01:39:48,222
♪ There's still gonna be ♪
1652
01:39:48,288 --> 01:39:53,193
♪ A summer, a winter,
a spring and a fall ♪
1653
01:40:01,301 --> 01:40:06,373
♪ Oh once a friend
starts treating you bad ♪
1654
01:40:07,441 --> 01:40:11,378
♪ For the world goes round ♪
1655
01:40:12,647 --> 01:40:16,885
♪ And sometimes
your heart breaks ♪
1656
01:40:16,951 --> 01:40:22,022
♪ With a deafening sound ♪
1657
01:40:25,125 --> 01:40:30,197
♪ Somebody loses
and somebody wins ♪
1658
01:40:31,198 --> 01:40:34,101
♪ And one day it's kicks ♪
1659
01:40:34,167 --> 01:40:37,037
♪ And it's kicks in the shins ♪
1660
01:40:37,104 --> 01:40:40,240
♪ But the planet spins ♪
1661
01:40:40,307 --> 01:40:42,644
♪ And the world goes
round and round ♪
1662
01:40:42,710 --> 01:40:43,778
Can you
think of a star who's managed
1663
01:40:43,845 --> 01:40:46,014
to equal a famous parent?
1664
01:40:46,079 --> 01:40:48,750
Well, one who did
is Liza Minnelli,
1665
01:40:48,816 --> 01:40:51,251
the daughter of a
superstar, Judy Garland.
1666
01:40:51,318 --> 01:40:52,419
-It's Lonely at the top.
1667
01:40:52,486 --> 01:40:53,588
-And Academy Award-winning
1668
01:40:53,655 --> 01:40:55,389
film director Vincente Minnelli.
1669
01:40:56,824 --> 01:40:58,425
Liza has become a
superstar on her own.
1670
01:40:59,359 --> 01:41:01,428
♪ Round ♪
1671
01:43:35,415 --> 01:43:38,920
-No? All right.
-Put a mark on her face.
1672
01:43:41,723 --> 01:43:44,592
-Aw.
-CB that was marvelous.
1673
01:43:44,659 --> 01:43:46,694
-Did you like that?
1674
01:43:46,761 --> 01:43:49,296
Now, let's take it
again from the top.
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