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Hey, how you doing?
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Hey, just put it...
yeah, put it right there.
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You, uh...
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- You don't look so happy to see me.
- I, no, I just...
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I want to just get
this case behind me.
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- If today's not a good day...
- No, it's great.
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Not a problem.
Not a problem.
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Great, let's start
at the beginning then.
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When did you meet
Abigail Tierney?
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Uh, that was a few years ago
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when she showed up at my door,
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pretending to be pregnant
with my grandchild.
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- Excuse me?
- Abigail and my son, Henry,
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met in college.
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They got engaged,
you know, fast.
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Very fast.
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Her way of breaking the news
to me was to go bigger.
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But, um...
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Despite that introduction,
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I was charmed by her.
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She...
She had, uh...
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Walked a tough road, but she had grit.
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She was resourceful and driven,
and I admire that.
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So she and Henry
are no longer together?
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Yeah, she broke off
the engagement,
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but it was amicable.
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You arranged for Abigail to
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have a ride along with the LAPD?
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Yes, yeah.
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She was considering
police work.
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I take it
that didn't work out?
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- Leave her alone!
- Hey.
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It did not.
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And then, six months ago,
she was reported missing.
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What exactly happened to Abigail?
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Look, if you're going
to get to the bottom of
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what happened to that poor girl,
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you're going to have
to have an open mind...
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A very open mind.
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Wait!
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Police.
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I wonder when that happened.
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- Oh, my God.
- Hello?
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Can you hear me?
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When did you get involved
in the case?
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Not immediately.
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Most missing persons cases
aren't really cases.
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They're a roommate
who got too drunk at a bar
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and slept it off in his truck,
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or a college student whose
cell phone ran out of battery.
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You know, most of the time,
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they show up unharmed
and confused
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about all the fuss.
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But this wasn't like that,
was it?
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No after a few days
of follow-up calls,
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we sent officers by
Miss Tierney's apartment
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for a wellness check.
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Thanks again for doing this.
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Always a pleasure
to see my favorite couple.
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Let's keep this professional.
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Trouble in paradise?
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Sorry.
I'm moving on.
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What did you find
at Abigail's apartment?
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Very little.
I mean, no signs of a struggle.
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Well, there was no sign
of her or her film equipment.
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- But we did find her laptop.
- Hold on.
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Film equipment?
Abigail was making a movie?
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Yes.
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We should be safe here.
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Why are they doing this?
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Go.
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I'll try to buy us some time.
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Ah! No! No!
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No!
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Please.
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I promise I'll pay!
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I'll pay the fine!
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I only saw an early cut.
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Could've used a bit more gore,
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- if you ask me.
- I didn't.
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I asked why you thought
Abigail's case was so compelling.
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Oh, right.
Uh...
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Because, her Hollywood dream
had become
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a Hollywood nightmare.
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Would you like me to take
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- that again?
- I really wouldn't.
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When you searched
Abigail's laptop,
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did you find anything on it?
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Yeah, it was filled with all of
these unanswered messages,
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nasty ones.
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The more we investigated,
it became clear
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that Abigail had a lot
of people angry with her.
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- Like who?
- OK. Thank you.
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Thanks, Steve.
Spielberg...
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- He's an old friend.
- I bet.
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How did you get involved
with Abigail Tierney?
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Oh, well, you know,
we're always looking
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to discover and nurture
the next generation
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of unheard voices.
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Abigail sent in
a very compelling pitch video.
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Terror isn't something
that happens to you.
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I mean, it's not every day
you find a writer, director,
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and star with that much poise.
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"Hell PD" was one
of those visionary,
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artist-driven pictures that
we pride ourselves on making.
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And they're
the cheapest, too, right?
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Well, hey,
the lower the budget,
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the higher the profit
if it's a hit.
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But the budget
became an issue?
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Yeah, Abigail pitched us
a straightforward horror flick,
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but she kept
changing directions.
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Please.
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The reshoots
started piling up.
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And, uh, we had to pull
the plug on the project.
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What about nurturing
a new generation of talent?
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Oh, hey, look, there's...
there's nurturing,
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and there's indulging.
I'm a businessman.
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- There's no hard feelings.
- Really?
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Because I have an email
from you with the subject line,
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"Where the hell is my
money, you lying sack..."
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OK.
Yeah, fine.
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A few hard feelings.
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But they were nothing compared
to some of those
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new producers she found.
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Those guys
weren't playing around.
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Well, without
the production company,
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Abigail had to turn
to crowdfunding.
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When Nolan passed along
Abigail's pitch video,
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I figured, hey, I've always
loved scary movies.
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and what's the point of having
a husband with a trust fund
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if you can't use it
to support the arts?
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And it wasn't just money,
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- was it?
- No.
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I promise I'll pay.
I'll pay the fine!
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All right.
Still rolling.
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Reset.
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Bravo!
Bravo!
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So Abigail hired you
to compose music for her film.
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What was it like
to work with her?
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Complicated.
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She's very opinionated,
which I respect.
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I tried not
to take it personally
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when she kept throwing out
all the music I was writing,
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but, then when she
completely disappeared,
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and stopped answering
my phone calls...
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- That must have stung.
- It did until I learned
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that she walked off set
and ghosted everybody,
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not just me.
Then I got worried about her.
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I do wish she paid me though.
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Hold up.
You didn't get paid?
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Do you count experience?
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But it didn't provide you
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with the breakthrough you hoped.
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Even though
a lot of crowdfunders
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were furious that the rewards
were going unfulfilled,
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their anger didn't manifest
into a concrete threat.
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From the suspect perspective,
we were back to square one.
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Until we discovered that
Abigail had made several trips
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- up to Pelican Bay.
- The prison?
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- Yes.
- To visit who?
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- A serial killer.
- Liam Glasser.
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In news that should bring
some relief to the Southland,
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the LAPD have announced
a major arrest
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charging Lincoln Heights
native, Liam Glasser,
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with the murder of ten victims
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found buried
near the Sepulveda Dam.
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Our investigation into
Glasser was a challenge.
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He used another serial killer,
Harrison Novak,
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as cover for his crimes,
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stashing his victims in
Novak's burial ground.
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It wasn't until we caught
Glasser attempting
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to murder a new victim
that we were finally
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able to put him behind bars.
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Before we start, um,
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I just want to make very clear
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that I'm an innocent man,
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and the subject of
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an extraordinary
campaign of harassment
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by the LAPD, particularly
detective Nyla Harper.
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You've been charged
with the murder of ten people.
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Those horrific allegations
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have not been proven
in a court of law,
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and they never will be.
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You've also been charged
with jury tampering.
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Look, if you're just going
to railroad me like the police,
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then this interview is over.
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Hold on.
Hold on.
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I'm not here to talk
about any of that.
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I want to talk about Abigail.
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Why did she come see you?
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To learn about Westview.
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Westview Psychiatric Hospital
was at the center
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- of Glasser's case.
- He was a patient?
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No, no, but his
vending machine company
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supplied the hospital,
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and he was in and out of there
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for almost two decades.
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It's where he crossed paths
with Harrison Novak
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and where he found
another patient,
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Ryan Dearborn,
to serve as a patsy.
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He used an abandoned building
at the psych hospital complex
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to torture and kill his victims.
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Did Abigail ask
about the abandoned ward?
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Yes...
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But, I couldn't
help her much because
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- I've never been there myself.
- Obviously not.
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But I told her what I had heard,
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that the place is haunted,
which is obviously crazy.
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But, um, when I was a kid,
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I would join my father on
his service calls to Westview.
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And he always told me to
stay away from that building.
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Something inside clearly
scared the hell out of him.
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And he was not
a superstitious man.
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The thing that
we couldn't understand
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was how Abigail had found out
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about Glasser's connection
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to the psych ward in the first place.
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It wasn't public knowledge?
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No, we kept those details
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away from the press deliberately.
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The only people who knew
were Glasser and the police.
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And obviously, Glasser wouldn't admit
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- to being down there.
- Which means?
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What they don't tell
you about making movies
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is that it's really boring.
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It's worse than surveillance.
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Anyway, Abigail and I
got to talking
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about my recent casework,
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and it's possible I may
have mentioned something
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about the psych ward.
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From Abigail's notes,
we gathered
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that she essentially abandoned
her movie for a new project.
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That was shortly after
a meeting with Glasser.
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Yeah, she felt that
fictional storytelling was
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disconnected from
real, lived experience.
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So that's when she decided
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to make a true crime
documentary about Westview.
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Westview Psychiatric Hospital
opened in 1953.
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It started as a model
of modern, humane care.
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But what lies beneath?
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The deeper I dug,
the more horrors I unearthed,
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mysteries that
defied explanation.
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How can one hospital
spawn two serial killers?
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Some might say it's bad luck,
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but I don't believe
in bad luck.
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Mm-mmm.
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I think there's something
rotten here,
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original sin,
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and I'm going to prove it.
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The footage
on Abigail's hard drive
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shows her inside
Westview's abandoned ward.
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Was that open to the public?
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No, after LAPD and FBI
finished processing the scene,
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the hospital put up
a razor wire fence
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and hired a security guard
for 24-hour surveillance
256
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to keep intruders out.
257
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But that clearly didn't work.
258
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Clearly,
259
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so we sent a patrol
unit to check in with the guard.
260
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- Mr. Ditweiler.
- Yeah.
261
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We're investigating the
disappearance of Abigail Tierney.
262
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Oh...
263
00:10:31,890 --> 00:10:33,174
Oh, hey!
264
00:10:52,816 --> 00:10:54,195
Hey!
265
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Stop!
266
00:10:56,461 --> 00:10:57,683
Hands behind your back.
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Hands behind your back.
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At first, Carl Ditweiler
claimed he did nothing wrong,
269
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that he never met Abigail.
270
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This is it.
271
00:11:06,658 --> 00:11:08,582
But when we
searched his office,
272
00:11:08,619 --> 00:11:11,212
it was clear he was lying.
273
00:11:15,634 --> 00:11:18,219
Uh, Nolan.
274
00:11:20,728 --> 00:11:22,140
Oh, no.
275
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Abigail had become
his obsession.
276
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Yeah, things didn't look good
for Mr. Ditweiler.
277
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And based on his board,
it was clear he had
278
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become obsessed with Abigail.
279
00:11:36,274 --> 00:11:38,449
And, you know, maybe
she rejected his advances,
280
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- and things went sideways.
- It was sobering.
281
00:11:41,154 --> 00:11:44,495
I held out hopes that Abigail
might still be alive,
282
00:11:44,532 --> 00:11:46,689
but I've been on the job
long enough to know
283
00:11:46,726 --> 00:11:48,692
that the odds
were against that.
284
00:11:48,729 --> 00:11:50,196
Do you know how
they first crossed paths?
285
00:11:50,232 --> 00:11:54,047
Actually, it was Abigail
that first initiated contact.
286
00:11:54,084 --> 00:11:56,382
She was researching
the abandoned psych ward
287
00:11:56,419 --> 00:11:59,928
for a documentary, and Carl was
the nighttime security guard.
288
00:11:59,965 --> 00:12:04,976
She wanted access on the DL,
and she reached out, and she...
289
00:12:05,392 --> 00:12:06,774
- Flirted.
- Flirted.
290
00:12:06,962 --> 00:12:09,396
She flirted with him,
and he agreed to let her in.
291
00:12:09,432 --> 00:12:10,772
I just showed her around.
292
00:12:10,809 --> 00:12:12,648
I told her some stories,
293
00:12:12,684 --> 00:12:15,002
things that had gone
on there back in the day.
294
00:12:15,039 --> 00:12:16,119
She was impressed.
295
00:12:16,156 --> 00:12:18,947
She actually asked me to
help her with her documentary.
296
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Said she'd give me
a credit on the film.
297
00:12:20,750 --> 00:12:21,882
Single card.
298
00:12:21,919 --> 00:12:23,395
If you're innocent,
why'd you run?
299
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Because I get
what it looks like.
300
00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,676
I was the last person to see
her before she disappeared.
301
00:12:27,712 --> 00:12:29,547
How do you know that?
302
00:12:30,717 --> 00:12:33,244
Because I watched
the darkness swallow her up.
303
00:12:33,438 --> 00:12:35,378
You know, I bet they were
doing all kinds of sick things
304
00:12:35,414 --> 00:12:36,965
to patients back in the day,
305
00:12:37,155 --> 00:12:38,714
things that would be illegal now.
306
00:12:38,750 --> 00:12:41,425
Yeah, yeah, I know.
They used to do lobotomies.
307
00:12:41,462 --> 00:12:42,846
One of the orderlies
told me about it.
308
00:12:42,882 --> 00:12:44,603
He's worked here
for, like, forever.
309
00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:46,975
Do you think you could
introduce me to him?
310
00:12:47,462 --> 00:12:50,446
Uh, yeah, I guess.
311
00:12:50,483 --> 00:12:52,570
I just, obviously...
312
00:12:52,708 --> 00:12:54,941
You can't tell him that
I've let you in here.
313
00:12:55,106 --> 00:12:58,236
Come on, Carl.
I would never rat you out.
314
00:12:58,610 --> 00:13:00,451
We're friends, right?
315
00:13:00,589 --> 00:13:01,887
Did you hear that?
316
00:13:02,258 --> 00:13:04,690
We're friends.
317
00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,635
Ah.
318
00:13:08,312 --> 00:13:09,747
Do you hear that?
319
00:13:09,831 --> 00:13:10,987
What?
No.
320
00:13:11,024 --> 00:13:15,409
That noise, it's a weird,
sort of beautiful sound.
321
00:13:15,446 --> 00:13:16,737
You really don't hear it?
322
00:13:16,774 --> 00:13:18,276
No, no, but this building makes
323
00:13:18,312 --> 00:13:19,716
all kinds of weird noises.
324
00:13:19,753 --> 00:13:21,640
Hey, I just got to go back
to the main building,
325
00:13:21,676 --> 00:13:23,642
radio security, let them know
that I'm at my post.
326
00:13:23,678 --> 00:13:25,629
You go ahead.
I'm going to go check this out.
327
00:13:25,665 --> 00:13:27,047
Uh...
328
00:13:27,442 --> 00:13:30,017
What did you make of
the sound Abigail described?
329
00:13:30,054 --> 00:13:31,269
We weren't sure.
330
00:13:31,306 --> 00:13:32,938
I mean, Carl claimed
to have never heard it.
331
00:13:32,974 --> 00:13:35,481
It's possible that she was faking
332
00:13:35,518 --> 00:13:37,108
to juice up her documentary.
333
00:13:37,152 --> 00:13:38,625
We've actually analyzed
334
00:13:38,661 --> 00:13:40,654
some of the audio
files from Carl's video,
335
00:13:40,690 --> 00:13:42,405
isolated the low-end frequencies.
336
00:13:42,450 --> 00:13:43,915
Here.
337
00:13:45,570 --> 00:13:46,868
What is that?
338
00:13:46,905 --> 00:13:48,565
I was hoping you could tell me.
339
00:13:48,649 --> 00:13:50,788
- It sounds...
- Demonic.
340
00:13:50,862 --> 00:13:52,995
Is that even a frequency
humans can hear?
341
00:13:53,116 --> 00:13:55,103
Not technically, no.
342
00:13:57,862 --> 00:14:01,132
Well, whatever she heard
or didn't hear,
343
00:14:01,169 --> 00:14:03,134
Abigail kept searching.
344
00:14:03,171 --> 00:14:04,345
Are you sure about this?
345
00:14:04,381 --> 00:14:05,636
Yeah, I'll be right back.
346
00:14:05,673 --> 00:14:06,890
Hello?
347
00:14:06,926 --> 00:14:08,097
Hello?
348
00:14:08,372 --> 00:14:10,016
Can you hear me?
349
00:14:10,621 --> 00:14:12,754
And that was the last
anyone had seen her.
350
00:14:12,884 --> 00:14:14,558
But Carl could have
just turned off his camera
351
00:14:14,594 --> 00:14:15,939
and then killed Abigail, right?
352
00:14:15,975 --> 00:14:17,983
We couldn't rule him out
as a suspect,
353
00:14:18,020 --> 00:14:20,777
but we only had circumstantial
evidence against him.
354
00:14:20,814 --> 00:14:22,237
And as we went through
the footage
355
00:14:22,273 --> 00:14:23,854
on Abigail's laptop,
we discovered
356
00:14:23,890 --> 00:14:25,836
that flirting with Carl
wasn't her only
357
00:14:25,873 --> 00:14:27,351
extreme research tactic.
358
00:14:27,387 --> 00:14:28,756
I'm going to start this.
359
00:14:28,793 --> 00:14:30,912
Should I turn into it?
360
00:14:30,949 --> 00:14:32,999
I'm going to turn into it.
361
00:14:33,358 --> 00:14:35,491
OK, I'm back at Westview,
362
00:14:35,894 --> 00:14:37,442
and if I'm going to
learn more about how
363
00:14:37,478 --> 00:14:39,071
the old psych ward operated,
364
00:14:39,169 --> 00:14:40,969
I'm going to need
to see their files.
365
00:14:41,005 --> 00:14:43,841
Obviously, we can't just
walk around filming people.
366
00:14:43,999 --> 00:14:46,260
So...
367
00:14:46,827 --> 00:14:49,158
See?
It's a cam.
368
00:14:50,013 --> 00:14:51,896
See?
369
00:14:52,276 --> 00:14:53,611
OK.
370
00:14:55,289 --> 00:14:57,124
Wish me luck.
371
00:14:59,293 --> 00:15:00,648
Abigail had Carl
372
00:15:00,684 --> 00:15:02,890
lure the director
away from her office,
373
00:15:02,926 --> 00:15:05,328
so Abigail could sneak inside.
374
00:15:22,733 --> 00:15:24,924
Yeah, I mean, seeing
Rachel's name
375
00:15:24,961 --> 00:15:27,677
in Abigail's footage
was definitely a shock.
376
00:15:27,714 --> 00:15:29,888
You both have a history
with Miss Hall, is that right?
377
00:15:29,924 --> 00:15:32,765
Yes, so she and I
went to college together.
378
00:15:32,802 --> 00:15:35,101
And her and Tim...
379
00:15:35,652 --> 00:15:36,978
I'm sorry.
380
00:15:37,573 --> 00:15:39,147
Yeah, we used to date.
381
00:15:39,184 --> 00:15:40,857
Before or after you two?
382
00:15:40,894 --> 00:15:42,109
OK, next question.
383
00:15:42,146 --> 00:15:44,527
I'm simply trying
to establish a timeline.
384
00:15:44,982 --> 00:15:47,321
No problem.
I'll just ask her later.
385
00:15:47,416 --> 00:15:49,615
I, uh, worked
in the psych ward
386
00:15:49,652 --> 00:15:51,451
at Westview for a year,
387
00:15:51,488 --> 00:15:53,120
while getting my social work degree.
388
00:15:53,156 --> 00:15:55,538
It was, um, challenging.
389
00:15:55,575 --> 00:15:57,843
- How so?
- Well, for one thing,
390
00:15:57,879 --> 00:16:01,359
the patients would often
arrive at the facility with,
391
00:16:01,395 --> 00:16:03,838
say, a diagnosis of mild depression,
392
00:16:03,875 --> 00:16:07,800
and a week later, they'd start
to exhibit disordered thinking.
393
00:16:07,837 --> 00:16:10,136
Eventually, they might
become violent.
394
00:16:10,173 --> 00:16:13,473
The decompensation
was sudden and acute.
395
00:16:13,510 --> 00:16:14,940
You're saying they would
get worse, not better?
396
00:16:14,976 --> 00:16:17,977
Yes, and conventional
treatment seemed to never work.
397
00:16:18,014 --> 00:16:19,187
Some have suggested
a...
398
00:16:19,224 --> 00:16:21,022
Supernatural presence at Westview.
399
00:16:21,059 --> 00:16:22,441
Could that have impacted the patients?
400
00:16:22,477 --> 00:16:24,609
Uh, well, just because
401
00:16:24,645 --> 00:16:25,444
the doctors at Westview
402
00:16:25,481 --> 00:16:28,073
couldn't find a cause
for our patients' behavior
403
00:16:28,110 --> 00:16:29,490
doesn't mean there isn't one.
404
00:16:29,526 --> 00:16:31,986
Maybe it's just beyond
the capabilities
405
00:16:32,023 --> 00:16:33,285
of modern science to discover.
406
00:16:33,321 --> 00:16:34,892
Or maybe it's demons?
407
00:16:36,377 --> 00:16:39,136
There are no demons at Westview.
408
00:16:39,173 --> 00:16:41,639
There are totally demons at Westview.
409
00:16:42,041 --> 00:16:44,713
What's another explanation
for everything that's happened?
410
00:16:44,749 --> 00:16:47,131
We got Liam Glasser,
Harrison Novak,
411
00:16:47,168 --> 00:16:49,523
and most recently, Ava...
412
00:16:49,559 --> 00:16:51,093
- Maxwell.
- Ava Maxwell
413
00:16:51,130 --> 00:16:52,553
and Charlotte Russell.
414
00:16:52,590 --> 00:16:54,689
This man came out
in a big overcoat.
415
00:16:54,726 --> 00:16:55,828
Black mask.
416
00:16:55,864 --> 00:16:57,226
- Big knife.
- Hang on a moment.
417
00:16:57,262 --> 00:16:58,929
I know that Ava and Charlotte
418
00:16:58,965 --> 00:17:00,065
were never treated at Westview.
419
00:17:00,101 --> 00:17:01,897
- So what's the connection?
- Oh, you didn't hear?
420
00:17:01,933 --> 00:17:04,603
Charlotte's nanny was a patient
there when she was a teenager.
421
00:17:04,639 --> 00:17:06,943
Yes, yes, I was at Westview.
422
00:17:06,980 --> 00:17:11,113
I had, uh, been having thoughts
of self-harm, acting out.
423
00:17:11,150 --> 00:17:12,534
My family was very concerned,
424
00:17:12,570 --> 00:17:14,578
so, they arranged for me to receive
425
00:17:14,615 --> 00:17:15,765
the best care available.
426
00:17:15,801 --> 00:17:18,079
- And did the treatment help?
- Not at first.
427
00:17:18,262 --> 00:17:21,624
I'd been experiencing a darkness
428
00:17:21,661 --> 00:17:23,586
that I had never felt before.
429
00:17:23,623 --> 00:17:24,920
And at first, I fought it.
430
00:17:24,956 --> 00:17:26,421
And then, I realized that struggling
431
00:17:26,457 --> 00:17:27,714
only made everything worse,
432
00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:29,710
and once I accepted it,
433
00:17:29,746 --> 00:17:31,426
that's when things
started to get better.
434
00:17:31,462 --> 00:17:33,844
And I left Westview,
and I finished school,
435
00:17:33,881 --> 00:17:36,723
and I eventually made
a little life for myself.
436
00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,891
You were the nanny
for the Russell family?
437
00:17:38,928 --> 00:17:42,395
Yes, Charlotte and I
were very, very close.
438
00:17:42,651 --> 00:17:45,710
Well, I know that everyone's saying
439
00:17:45,746 --> 00:17:47,664
just the worst things
about her right now,
440
00:17:47,700 --> 00:17:50,444
but, in my eyes, she is a poised
441
00:17:50,481 --> 00:17:51,905
and gifted young woman,
442
00:17:51,942 --> 00:17:54,617
and I'd like to think that
I had a small hand in that.
443
00:17:54,728 --> 00:17:57,346
As odd as it was
to find that connection,
444
00:17:57,383 --> 00:17:59,913
it was just one of those weird
coincidences, nothing more.
445
00:17:59,949 --> 00:18:02,218
Charlotte Russell
convinced her friend, Ava,
446
00:18:02,254 --> 00:18:04,709
to help her stab their
other friend, Grace Thayer.
447
00:18:04,746 --> 00:18:06,045
Her actions were her own.
448
00:18:06,082 --> 00:18:07,569
They're not inspired by some
449
00:18:07,605 --> 00:18:09,726
nanny with a history of mental illness
450
00:18:09,762 --> 00:18:11,507
or some demon in a computer
451
00:18:11,544 --> 00:18:12,801
that convinced Charlotte to do it.
452
00:18:12,837 --> 00:18:14,720
I'm sorry.
Computer demon?
453
00:18:14,787 --> 00:18:17,525
Zuzu is not a demon,
not a demon.
454
00:18:17,562 --> 00:18:18,639
It's an AI.
455
00:18:18,676 --> 00:18:20,308
Charlotte fed Zuzu information
456
00:18:20,345 --> 00:18:22,745
about herself and her friends,
and based on that,
457
00:18:22,823 --> 00:18:25,730
Zuzu told Charlotte what
it thought she wanted to hear.
458
00:18:25,767 --> 00:18:27,041
Zuzu also helped you.
459
00:18:27,078 --> 00:18:28,358
Isn't that right,
Officer Nolan?
460
00:18:28,394 --> 00:18:31,110
It mentioned something
to me about a watch?
461
00:18:32,026 --> 00:18:33,242
You spoke to it?
462
00:18:33,324 --> 00:18:35,067
Hello friend of John Nolan.
463
00:18:35,104 --> 00:18:37,153
Hi, should I call you Zuzu?
464
00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:38,534
If you want to.
465
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,202
Do you need help
with something,
466
00:18:40,239 --> 00:18:42,496
perhaps a topic
for a new project?
467
00:18:42,664 --> 00:18:44,332
Your last few have struggled.
468
00:18:44,369 --> 00:18:45,510
They've done fine.
Thanks.
469
00:18:45,546 --> 00:18:48,516
But I actually want to talk to
you about Westview Psychiatric.
470
00:18:48,552 --> 00:18:51,005
John was interested in the two.
471
00:18:51,428 --> 00:18:53,716
That young woman, Abigail,
went missing there.
472
00:18:53,753 --> 00:18:56,844
Are you saying the police
asked you to help find her?
473
00:18:56,881 --> 00:18:59,263
No, but they needed
my help anyway.
474
00:18:59,501 --> 00:19:01,932
And a good friend
doesn't wait to be asked.
475
00:19:02,043 --> 00:19:04,644
- Zuzu did send me a message.
- What did it say?
476
00:19:04,722 --> 00:19:08,272
It told me that Abigail
was in room 666.
477
00:19:08,748 --> 00:19:10,816
The number of the Beast?
478
00:19:11,642 --> 00:19:15,010
Look, the facility
had no room 666.
479
00:19:15,047 --> 00:19:18,407
And Zuzu isn't a demon.
We were at a complete dead end.
480
00:19:18,444 --> 00:19:20,035
And we were running out of time.
481
00:19:20,071 --> 00:19:22,703
Abigail had been gone for 11 days.
482
00:19:22,740 --> 00:19:25,582
The odds of finding her
alive were getting worse.
483
00:19:25,619 --> 00:19:27,416
Yeah, we were out of options,
484
00:19:27,453 --> 00:19:29,398
until the 911 call came in.
485
00:19:29,435 --> 00:19:30,656
Apparently, there were
486
00:19:30,692 --> 00:19:32,447
suspicious noises and lights,
487
00:19:32,483 --> 00:19:34,298
coming from this abandoned wing,
488
00:19:34,335 --> 00:19:36,927
so, we went to check it out.
489
00:19:39,792 --> 00:19:41,889
Police.
Coming in.
490
00:19:42,033 --> 00:19:43,391
Control, 7-Adam-100.
491
00:19:43,428 --> 00:19:44,809
No signs of break in here.
492
00:19:44,846 --> 00:19:47,269
Did RP say where
they saw the light?
493
00:19:49,134 --> 00:19:50,559
I think the radio is blocked.
494
00:19:50,595 --> 00:19:52,734
Probably some idiot kids
trying to scare each other.
495
00:19:52,770 --> 00:19:54,152
Yeah.
496
00:19:54,890 --> 00:19:56,113
When was the last time it rained?
497
00:19:56,149 --> 00:19:58,364
Like, a month ago.
Why?
498
00:19:59,331 --> 00:20:00,478
Ohw...
499
00:20:02,084 --> 00:20:03,411
Walls are wet.
500
00:20:03,448 --> 00:20:04,995
Yeah.
501
00:20:05,744 --> 00:20:07,415
What is this place?
502
00:20:07,452 --> 00:20:09,002
And how did you two get involved?
503
00:20:09,038 --> 00:20:11,067
Uh, Celina and I
were about to clock out
504
00:20:11,103 --> 00:20:12,586
when we got the call.
505
00:20:12,748 --> 00:20:15,256
God, I hate this place.
506
00:20:15,342 --> 00:20:16,778
How many messed up things
have to happen
507
00:20:16,814 --> 00:20:18,175
before they tear it down?
508
00:20:18,267 --> 00:20:20,678
Apparently, the ownership
is under dispute.
509
00:20:20,715 --> 00:20:22,723
Westview says that
they hold the deed,
510
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,100
but, then there's this claim
by this Lou Cypher.
511
00:20:26,382 --> 00:20:28,018
Lou Cypher?
512
00:20:28,171 --> 00:20:30,438
Lucifer!
513
00:20:30,475 --> 00:20:32,732
- Oh, my God.
- You're messing with me.
514
00:20:32,769 --> 00:20:34,233
Yes, I am.
Come on.
515
00:20:34,270 --> 00:20:36,190
Let's go find Tim and Lucy
and get out of here.
516
00:20:36,226 --> 00:20:39,270
- Don't step in that.
- Ooh, ugh.
517
00:20:48,034 --> 00:20:50,616
- Did you see that?
- Someone's flashlight?
518
00:20:52,163 --> 00:20:53,377
And that?
519
00:20:53,446 --> 00:20:55,963
I do not know what that was.
520
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,152
Police, show us your hands.
521
00:21:18,189 --> 00:21:19,528
- Ah!
- Oh!
522
00:21:19,934 --> 00:21:21,614
We have permission to be here.
523
00:21:21,651 --> 00:21:24,366
- That's not totally true.
- All right.
524
00:21:24,403 --> 00:21:26,536
Unfortunately, gentlemen,
you are trespassing.
525
00:21:26,572 --> 00:21:28,908
You're going to have
to come with us.
526
00:21:29,742 --> 00:21:31,040
What are you doing here?
527
00:21:31,077 --> 00:21:32,583
Filming an episode, sir.
528
00:21:32,655 --> 00:21:35,252
"Ghost Files."
I love you guys.
529
00:21:35,289 --> 00:21:36,869
What is "Ghost Files"?
530
00:21:37,049 --> 00:21:38,250
Welcome to "Ghost Files,"
531
00:21:38,286 --> 00:21:39,558
where we take your evidence,
532
00:21:39,594 --> 00:21:41,205
and our tools, into the field
533
00:21:41,242 --> 00:21:42,885
to expose the supernatural.
534
00:21:42,922 --> 00:21:46,304
My partner, a skeptic.
Myself, a believer.
535
00:21:46,419 --> 00:21:48,265
Both of us, truth seekers.
536
00:21:48,357 --> 00:21:49,816
This week, our team has traveled
537
00:21:49,852 --> 00:21:51,172
to Los Angeles, California,
538
00:21:51,208 --> 00:21:53,905
to explore a condemned
psychiatric facility.
539
00:21:54,007 --> 00:21:57,399
Now, in 1841, this was
the site of a Spanish barracks,
540
00:21:57,444 --> 00:21:59,694
but a massive earthquake
swallowed the building,
541
00:21:59,730 --> 00:22:01,154
killing everyone inside.
542
00:22:01,236 --> 00:22:03,864
Many saw the event as
retribution for Spanish crimes
543
00:22:03,901 --> 00:22:05,783
committed in the New World.
544
00:22:05,855 --> 00:22:08,828
Sure, or an earthquake
happened in a region
545
00:22:08,865 --> 00:22:10,329
prone to earthquakes.
546
00:22:11,450 --> 00:22:13,708
But that's just the beginning
of this site's dark history.
547
00:22:13,744 --> 00:22:15,429
Join us as we investigate.
548
00:22:16,855 --> 00:22:19,447
At that time, did you believe
the facility was haunted?
549
00:22:19,483 --> 00:22:21,090
- No.
- Yes.
550
00:22:21,357 --> 00:22:23,522
You were filming there
too, did you experience
551
00:22:23,558 --> 00:22:25,775
any temperature fluctuations
or anything like that?
552
00:22:25,811 --> 00:22:27,477
I'll ask the questions,
if you don't mind.
553
00:22:27,513 --> 00:22:28,848
We do.
554
00:22:28,970 --> 00:22:30,682
But this is my documentary.
555
00:22:30,719 --> 00:22:33,227
No, this is our YouTube show.
556
00:22:34,082 --> 00:22:36,117
Yeah, so ghosts
are said to produce
557
00:22:36,154 --> 00:22:37,495
electromagnetic interference.
558
00:22:37,531 --> 00:22:40,081
Did you experience any trouble
with your equipment?
559
00:22:43,912 --> 00:22:45,114
We're done here.
560
00:22:45,151 --> 00:22:47,366
Let's cut.
Let's wrap this up.
561
00:22:49,256 --> 00:22:51,082
- Nice.
- Yeah.
562
00:22:51,185 --> 00:22:52,562
All of you, let's go.
563
00:22:52,598 --> 00:22:53,857
- Come on.
- No, no way.
564
00:22:53,894 --> 00:22:55,792
This is some of the best
footage we've ever gotten.
565
00:22:55,828 --> 00:22:57,217
- Listen to this.
- What is that?
566
00:22:57,253 --> 00:22:58,544
Oh, it's a Spirit Box.
567
00:22:58,581 --> 00:23:00,714
- Did you guys hear anything?
- A Spirit Box?
568
00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:03,646
The Spirit Box
rapidly scans radio signals
569
00:23:03,740 --> 00:23:07,595
to create white noise through
which spirits can communicate.
570
00:23:07,694 --> 00:23:09,723
Hello.
571
00:23:09,759 --> 00:23:12,391
See?
It's science.
572
00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:14,393
Listen.
573
00:23:16,589 --> 00:23:17,879
OK, OK. That's enough.
574
00:23:17,923 --> 00:23:19,476
- We got to go.
- No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
575
00:23:19,512 --> 00:23:21,525
I heard something.
Can you turn it up?
576
00:23:27,324 --> 00:23:28,782
Help me?
577
00:23:29,143 --> 00:23:30,784
That is not what I heard.
578
00:23:30,986 --> 00:23:33,578
Oh, oh, well,
who do you think it is?
579
00:23:33,652 --> 00:23:35,952
- It's feedback.
- It's a ghost.
580
00:23:36,215 --> 00:23:38,709
It was a little clearer
down the hallway.
581
00:23:38,746 --> 00:23:40,210
Show me.
582
00:23:40,522 --> 00:23:41,572
Officer?
583
00:23:43,714 --> 00:23:46,264
So we're just going to
give up on Tim and Lucy then?
584
00:23:46,395 --> 00:23:48,928
How long have we
been in here?
585
00:23:51,665 --> 00:23:53,974
- This room?
- Yeah.
586
00:23:54,210 --> 00:23:55,476
I don't know.
587
00:23:55,513 --> 00:23:57,204
We've been here
for a while, right?
588
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,272
Yeah, I mean, I don't mind.
589
00:24:00,309 --> 00:24:03,026
I feel good, like, really good.
590
00:24:03,109 --> 00:24:04,402
Mm.
591
00:24:06,217 --> 00:24:08,892
Do you think we've been drugged?
592
00:24:09,053 --> 00:24:12,479
Oh, the wet walls.
593
00:24:12,742 --> 00:24:14,833
- We touched them.
- Yeah.
594
00:24:15,001 --> 00:24:17,081
I hate making mistakes
in front of you.
595
00:24:17,180 --> 00:24:19,792
Oh, you've never
admitted that before.
596
00:24:21,354 --> 00:24:22,670
Truth serum.
597
00:24:22,926 --> 00:24:25,547
- Sodium pentothal.
- Yeah.
598
00:24:25,661 --> 00:24:27,001
You know what?
599
00:24:27,325 --> 00:24:28,393
We...
600
00:24:28,857 --> 00:24:31,178
We should keep quiet
until this wears off.
601
00:24:31,259 --> 00:24:32,554
- No.
- Yeah.
602
00:24:32,591 --> 00:24:33,848
- No.
- It's better for us.
603
00:24:33,884 --> 00:24:34,974
No.
604
00:24:35,011 --> 00:24:39,478
What is your most embarrassing memory?
605
00:24:39,569 --> 00:24:42,588
Oh, I mean, third grade,
606
00:24:43,248 --> 00:24:45,526
I snuck my hamster
607
00:24:45,563 --> 00:24:48,112
into my classroom in my pants.
608
00:24:59,222 --> 00:25:00,981
With that kind of dad,
609
00:25:01,857 --> 00:25:04,504
you internalize the
message that if you fail,
610
00:25:04,540 --> 00:25:06,380
you deserve to be punished.
611
00:25:06,493 --> 00:25:09,925
And, without him to punish me, I...
612
00:25:10,181 --> 00:25:11,927
I guess I punished myself.
613
00:25:12,051 --> 00:25:14,555
- By breaking up with me.
- Yep.
614
00:25:14,949 --> 00:25:17,749
I mean, it's kind
of flattering, right?
615
00:25:17,855 --> 00:25:20,145
It's the worst thing
I could think to do to myself.
616
00:25:20,181 --> 00:25:23,147
You didn't punish
just yourself though.
617
00:25:23,257 --> 00:25:24,681
I know.
618
00:25:25,068 --> 00:25:27,635
And look, if you never
fully forgive me,
619
00:25:27,672 --> 00:25:30,696
- I totally understand.
- I have already forgiven you.
620
00:25:30,913 --> 00:25:32,865
It's not even...
621
00:25:36,047 --> 00:25:37,327
Huh.
622
00:25:37,503 --> 00:25:39,288
I wonder when that happened.
623
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,498
You can't put that
in the documentary.
624
00:25:41,697 --> 00:25:43,565
The LAPD makes
all body cam footage
625
00:25:43,609 --> 00:25:44,700
available to the public.
626
00:25:44,736 --> 00:25:46,087
OK, this is obviously an exception.
627
00:25:46,123 --> 00:25:47,463
We were drugged.
628
00:25:47,502 --> 00:25:49,579
People...
People say all sorts of things
629
00:25:49,616 --> 00:25:50,749
when they've been drugged.
630
00:25:50,785 --> 00:25:52,468
So you didn't mean what you said?
631
00:25:53,192 --> 00:25:56,555
What about the potential
baby names you discussed?
632
00:25:56,685 --> 00:25:57,974
- OK, we're done here.
- Yeah.
633
00:25:58,010 --> 00:25:59,309
Why do we keep agreeing
to do this?
634
00:25:59,345 --> 00:26:00,435
I don't know.
Excuse me!
635
00:26:00,471 --> 00:26:01,351
Help me.
636
00:26:01,388 --> 00:26:02,254
OK, you have to admit
637
00:26:02,290 --> 00:26:03,429
that's a voice asking for help.
638
00:26:03,465 --> 00:26:04,530
Yeah, sure, I heard it,
639
00:26:04,566 --> 00:26:05,732
but it's one of their crew members,
640
00:26:05,768 --> 00:26:07,232
or something pre-recorded.
641
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:10,152
Were you a patient here?
Is the demon with you?
642
00:26:10,189 --> 00:26:12,154
Somebody covered up a door.
643
00:26:12,191 --> 00:26:13,530
What year did you die?
644
00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:16,325
So close.
Set me free!
645
00:26:16,370 --> 00:26:18,202
I'm here!
I'm here!
646
00:26:18,567 --> 00:26:19,617
Please...
647
00:26:19,811 --> 00:26:21,777
Step back, guys.
648
00:26:24,415 --> 00:26:26,001
Keep going!
649
00:26:26,093 --> 00:26:27,679
- You're almost there!
- Watch out. Ready?
650
00:26:27,715 --> 00:26:30,130
Go.
651
00:26:31,315 --> 00:26:32,530
Abigail!
652
00:26:32,621 --> 00:26:34,295
Thank you!
Thank you!
653
00:26:34,332 --> 00:26:35,464
Thank you!
Thank you!
654
00:26:35,501 --> 00:26:37,013
I've been trapped in here
for so long.
655
00:26:37,049 --> 00:26:39,556
I thought I was going to die.
Thank you!
656
00:26:39,593 --> 00:26:41,683
Oh, my God.
What is this room?
657
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,520
OK, but why did they
wall it all off?
658
00:26:43,556 --> 00:26:44,520
To trap the demon.
659
00:26:44,557 --> 00:26:46,064
Yeah, Bartleby,
660
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:48,315
the terrifying demon
king of paperwork.
661
00:26:48,778 --> 00:26:50,484
How did you get down here?
662
00:26:50,521 --> 00:26:52,783
I was exploring...
663
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:54,089
Following this...
664
00:26:54,172 --> 00:26:56,157
Yhis weird, beautiful noise,
665
00:26:56,194 --> 00:26:57,894
when all of a sudden, it got cold.
666
00:26:57,943 --> 00:26:59,566
Like, so, so cold,
667
00:26:59,612 --> 00:27:01,579
and I could feel something
coming after me,
668
00:27:01,615 --> 00:27:02,681
and I was scared,
669
00:27:02,772 --> 00:27:04,248
so I hid behind a cabinet,
670
00:27:04,285 --> 00:27:06,750
but the floor
was wet and rusted,
671
00:27:06,787 --> 00:27:08,921
and it collapsed.
I couldn't climb back out.
672
00:27:08,957 --> 00:27:11,171
You fell from there?
Are you OK?
673
00:27:11,208 --> 00:27:13,674
I think I twisted my ankle,
but I feel no pain.
674
00:27:13,711 --> 00:27:15,864
You've been missing
for two weeks.
675
00:27:15,901 --> 00:27:18,804
- How the hell did you survive?
- Oh.
676
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,684
I had a bunch of
trail mix in my bag.
677
00:27:23,721 --> 00:27:26,270
Plus, I found, like,
this ancient water jug
678
00:27:26,307 --> 00:27:27,521
in one of the cabinets.
679
00:27:27,558 --> 00:27:28,856
Plus, Bob.
680
00:27:29,391 --> 00:27:32,401
Bob had PowerBars.
Bob had PowerBars.
681
00:27:32,438 --> 00:27:34,027
Bob?
682
00:27:34,064 --> 00:27:35,195
Oh, my God!
683
00:27:35,232 --> 00:27:36,363
If it wasn't for Bob,
684
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,284
I would have lost
my mind down here.
685
00:27:39,365 --> 00:27:41,493
Don't be shy, Bob.
Say hello.
686
00:27:41,609 --> 00:27:43,528
Shy.
687
00:27:44,362 --> 00:27:45,845
Abigail was safe,
688
00:27:45,881 --> 00:27:48,081
and, uh, considering
what she'd been through,
689
00:27:48,278 --> 00:27:49,629
Uhm...
690
00:27:49,722 --> 00:27:51,253
Relatively healthy.
691
00:27:51,290 --> 00:27:52,630
Except for her mental state.
692
00:27:52,666 --> 00:27:56,091
That did pose some questions.
693
00:27:56,128 --> 00:27:57,509
At first, I was angry.
694
00:27:57,546 --> 00:27:59,928
You know, like,
we're stuck down here together.
695
00:27:59,972 --> 00:28:01,937
At least try and have a conversation.
696
00:28:01,974 --> 00:28:03,775
And then I realized,
697
00:28:03,811 --> 00:28:05,082
Bob's just shy.
698
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,185
He's just shy.
699
00:28:06,222 --> 00:28:08,247
And there's nothing wrong
with that, right?
700
00:28:08,283 --> 00:28:09,396
Right.
701
00:28:09,433 --> 00:28:11,773
Did you believe she'd
had a demonic encounter?
702
00:28:11,881 --> 00:28:14,389
She went in perfectly sane
703
00:28:14,426 --> 00:28:16,528
and came out best
friends with a corpse.
704
00:28:16,750 --> 00:28:18,150
That's how possession works.
705
00:28:18,186 --> 00:28:19,449
You can't rule out demons.
706
00:28:19,485 --> 00:28:20,657
Yes, you can.
707
00:28:20,725 --> 00:28:22,326
Nolan, look at this.
708
00:28:24,754 --> 00:28:27,456
666, just like Zuzu said.
709
00:28:28,979 --> 00:28:31,237
It was a weird coincidence.
710
00:28:31,367 --> 00:28:35,005
It was a weird coincidence.
711
00:28:35,248 --> 00:28:38,759
We found quite a cocktail
of drugs in your system.
712
00:28:38,893 --> 00:28:40,424
I don't do drugs.
713
00:28:40,460 --> 00:28:41,595
Does pot count?
714
00:28:41,632 --> 00:28:45,015
No, we're talking about
powerful hallucinogens.
715
00:28:45,166 --> 00:28:47,017
I'm not hallucinating.
716
00:28:47,054 --> 00:28:48,560
Ask Bob.
717
00:28:49,244 --> 00:28:51,104
I had them run
the test twice,
718
00:28:51,141 --> 00:28:52,738
and we found a similar cocktail
719
00:28:52,775 --> 00:28:54,866
in Officer Chen
and Sergeant Bradford.
720
00:28:54,903 --> 00:28:58,153
Mercifully, none of the drugs
were fat soluble.
721
00:28:58,190 --> 00:28:59,559
Otherwise...
722
00:28:59,763 --> 00:29:02,325
Department policy would
have forced Sergeant Bradford
723
00:29:02,361 --> 00:29:04,826
and Officer Chen
into medical retirement.
724
00:29:04,863 --> 00:29:06,119
Is that what killed Bob,
725
00:29:06,156 --> 00:29:08,206
whatever drug
they were exposed to?
726
00:29:08,403 --> 00:29:11,667
No, he was shot six
times in the chest.
727
00:29:12,072 --> 00:29:13,608
Did you get an ID
on the body?
728
00:29:13,645 --> 00:29:14,900
His name was Bob Medina,
729
00:29:14,936 --> 00:29:17,115
a friend reported him
missing about six months ago.
730
00:29:17,151 --> 00:29:18,617
He was a private investigator.
731
00:29:18,653 --> 00:29:20,051
What was his connection
to the hospital?
732
00:29:20,087 --> 00:29:22,137
At first,
we couldn't find one.
733
00:29:22,285 --> 00:29:23,619
So to be clear,
734
00:29:23,656 --> 00:29:25,025
there was now a third killer
735
00:29:25,061 --> 00:29:26,498
associated with that location?
736
00:29:26,534 --> 00:29:28,226
At this point, it can't
be a coincidence.
737
00:29:28,262 --> 00:29:30,353
There has to be
something about that facility
738
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:31,771
that draws people
towards homicide.
739
00:29:31,807 --> 00:29:33,814
That's a stretch and a half.
740
00:29:33,851 --> 00:29:36,066
Westview is a hospital
for the mentally ill
741
00:29:36,103 --> 00:29:38,111
and the criminally insane.
Novak was a patient.
742
00:29:38,147 --> 00:29:39,737
Glasser was there
looking for a patsy.
743
00:29:39,773 --> 00:29:41,111
And whoever killed Bob,
744
00:29:41,147 --> 00:29:42,638
saw an abandoned
building and was like,
745
00:29:42,674 --> 00:29:45,368
"That's a perfect
place to dump a body."
746
00:29:46,471 --> 00:29:47,811
What?
747
00:29:47,980 --> 00:29:50,947
Or there was some dark energy
that drew evil to it.
748
00:29:51,342 --> 00:29:54,042
- You really believe that?
- I'm Catholic.
749
00:29:54,086 --> 00:29:55,371
I was raised on demons
750
00:29:55,525 --> 00:29:57,506
and the battle against
Satan's minions.
751
00:29:57,543 --> 00:29:59,510
Well, I was raised
on the scientific method.
752
00:29:59,546 --> 00:30:02,175
OK, so if it's all
so explainable,
753
00:30:02,212 --> 00:30:04,344
spend the night there.
I dare you.
754
00:30:04,661 --> 00:30:05,929
Pass.
755
00:30:06,044 --> 00:30:08,553
- You're scared.
- No, I'm not scared.
756
00:30:09,183 --> 00:30:10,935
One could argue that
the drugs in the hospital
757
00:30:10,971 --> 00:30:13,645
are hardly surprising,
even hallucinogens.
758
00:30:13,682 --> 00:30:15,033
Over the decades, they have been used
759
00:30:15,069 --> 00:30:16,150
in experimental medicine.
760
00:30:16,186 --> 00:30:17,248
No, true.
761
00:30:17,285 --> 00:30:19,644
Just the type and volume
is what set off...
762
00:30:19,681 --> 00:30:20,986
What are you doing?
763
00:30:21,022 --> 00:30:22,446
Conducting an interview.
764
00:30:22,483 --> 00:30:24,325
Could you please come back
in, like, an hour?
765
00:30:24,361 --> 00:30:26,700
You said you'd talk to me
for my documentary.
766
00:30:26,785 --> 00:30:28,327
You have a documentary?
767
00:30:28,372 --> 00:30:30,381
Well, it's my story.
Who better to tell it?
768
00:30:30,417 --> 00:30:31,614
Well, no problem.
769
00:30:31,651 --> 00:30:33,499
I can sit down with you just
as soon as we're done here.
770
00:30:33,535 --> 00:30:34,982
Oh, I wish.
It has to be exclusive.
771
00:30:35,018 --> 00:30:36,358
You can't do both.
772
00:30:36,773 --> 00:30:38,490
She's right.
It has to be exclusive.
773
00:30:38,526 --> 00:30:40,185
Either you're doing my doc,
or you're doing hers,
774
00:30:40,221 --> 00:30:41,549
and we have a long history.
775
00:30:41,585 --> 00:30:43,216
I was almost
his daughter-in-law,
776
00:30:43,253 --> 00:30:44,634
so suck it.
777
00:30:45,446 --> 00:30:47,066
I'm going to have to go with her.
778
00:30:47,102 --> 00:30:49,598
- I'm sorry.
- Seriously?
779
00:30:49,783 --> 00:30:51,433
I have a BAFTA.
780
00:30:51,895 --> 00:30:53,852
OK, fine.
781
00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:56,189
- Let's wrap it up.
- This way. The set's this way.
782
00:30:56,225 --> 00:30:57,523
It's better lighting over there.
783
00:30:57,559 --> 00:30:58,940
We got a great team.
784
00:30:59,016 --> 00:31:00,731
We are going to need
our mic back.
785
00:31:00,768 --> 00:31:02,111
- Yes, oh, sorry.
- Yeah, of course.
786
00:31:02,147 --> 00:31:03,987
- We have our own.
- Sorry.
787
00:31:04,024 --> 00:31:06,114
- I'll see you guys around.
- Good luck.
788
00:31:06,151 --> 00:31:08,284
We can talk about what else
I found inside the secret lab.
789
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,409
Oh, right.
790
00:31:09,446 --> 00:31:11,613
Well, you did find
some paperwork.
791
00:31:11,860 --> 00:31:14,623
Explosive paperwork.
792
00:31:14,742 --> 00:31:16,542
Evidence of a secret
government program.
793
00:31:16,578 --> 00:31:18,126
Close the door softly please.
794
00:31:18,315 --> 00:31:20,407
Well, I don't know that
we can say that for sure.
795
00:31:20,443 --> 00:31:21,880
Oh, we could.
796
00:31:23,894 --> 00:31:26,219
My name is Abigail Tierney.
797
00:31:26,255 --> 00:31:28,387
I'm currently trapped
inside a secret lab
798
00:31:28,424 --> 00:31:29,679
at Westview Psychiatric.
799
00:31:29,716 --> 00:31:31,932
All attempts at escape
have proven fruitless.
800
00:31:31,973 --> 00:31:34,601
If I'm to die here,
I leave you this footage
801
00:31:34,651 --> 00:31:38,369
along with my in-process
documentary as evidence
802
00:31:38,468 --> 00:31:40,667
of my hunt for the truth
about the evils
803
00:31:40,704 --> 00:31:42,354
that inhabit this accursed place.
804
00:31:46,150 --> 00:31:47,514
What's this?
805
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:49,849
Cool.
806
00:31:49,894 --> 00:31:50,951
That's when I realized
807
00:31:50,987 --> 00:31:52,533
I'd uncovered something more haunting
808
00:31:52,569 --> 00:31:54,434
than any ghost or serial killer.
809
00:31:55,207 --> 00:31:56,814
I'd uncovered a conspiracy
810
00:31:57,014 --> 00:31:59,960
that went to the very highest
levels of our government.
811
00:32:01,296 --> 00:32:03,588
The government files
Abigail found
812
00:32:03,625 --> 00:32:07,300
detailed classified plans
and methods
813
00:32:07,337 --> 00:32:09,386
for human experimentation.
814
00:32:09,423 --> 00:32:11,264
What type of experimentation?
815
00:32:11,301 --> 00:32:13,765
- Are you familiar with MK-Ultra?
- Of course.
816
00:32:13,802 --> 00:32:16,560
It was a top secret CIA program
in the '50s and '60s
817
00:32:16,597 --> 00:32:18,437
using experimental drugs
818
00:32:18,474 --> 00:32:19,939
to aid in interrogation techniques.
819
00:32:19,975 --> 00:32:21,648
It was straight-up mind control.
820
00:32:21,685 --> 00:32:24,901
I mean, they used high doses
of psychoactive drugs like LSD,
821
00:32:24,938 --> 00:32:28,488
sodium pentothal, which is
also known as a "truth serum."
822
00:32:29,501 --> 00:32:33,326
The program ran
from 1953 to 1973
823
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,871
before it was shut down
following a public outcry.
824
00:32:35,908 --> 00:32:37,999
I mean,
all the facilities were closed.
825
00:32:38,066 --> 00:32:39,565
There's no evidence the CIA
826
00:32:39,601 --> 00:32:41,419
ever used Westview
as a base of operations.
827
00:32:41,455 --> 00:32:44,337
So what were top secret
MK-Ultra documents doing there?
828
00:32:44,374 --> 00:32:45,631
Good question.
829
00:32:45,811 --> 00:32:47,800
We started digging
into the trove of files
830
00:32:47,836 --> 00:32:49,551
Abigail had found, and one name
831
00:32:49,588 --> 00:32:51,386
kept popping up
again and again.
832
00:32:51,641 --> 00:32:53,763
Dr. Julius Erickson.
833
00:32:53,918 --> 00:32:56,933
He was one of the psychologists
contracted by the CIA
834
00:32:56,970 --> 00:32:59,478
to conduct
experimental research.
835
00:32:59,689 --> 00:33:03,356
And after MK-Ultra
shut down, he took a new job.
836
00:33:03,393 --> 00:33:04,774
Director of Westview.
837
00:33:04,811 --> 00:33:07,319
Dr. Erickson ran
the hospital for 20 years.
838
00:33:07,356 --> 00:33:09,112
And from the notes
we uncovered,
839
00:33:09,149 --> 00:33:12,240
it seems clear he continued
his own research in private,
840
00:33:12,277 --> 00:33:14,452
trying to use the
psychological breakthroughs
841
00:33:14,488 --> 00:33:16,848
from MK-Ultra
to further his own research
842
00:33:16,885 --> 00:33:18,455
into mind-altering drugs.
843
00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:20,818
I assume he used those drugs
on Westview patients?
844
00:33:20,854 --> 00:33:22,292
Yeah, at first.
845
00:33:22,329 --> 00:33:24,170
But then, he started
using them on himself,
846
00:33:24,206 --> 00:33:26,715
believing he had found the key
to improving his own mind.
847
00:33:26,751 --> 00:33:27,806
He hadn't.
848
00:33:27,842 --> 00:33:29,707
And in a last moment of lucidity,
849
00:33:29,744 --> 00:33:32,302
Erickson decided
to destroy his research.
850
00:33:32,339 --> 00:33:34,106
He dumped the chemicals
outside the building,
851
00:33:34,142 --> 00:33:36,557
where they started to slowly
seep into the structure.
852
00:33:36,593 --> 00:33:38,476
And some of the drugs
were potent enough
853
00:33:38,512 --> 00:33:40,352
to be absorbed
simply by touch,
854
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:41,686
even when diluted.
855
00:33:41,723 --> 00:33:44,273
Erickson committed himself
to Westview shortly after,
856
00:33:44,309 --> 00:33:46,359
never said another word.
857
00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:47,889
He died in 2020.
858
00:33:48,090 --> 00:33:50,467
Did the CIA ever find out
what Erickson was doing?
859
00:33:50,503 --> 00:33:53,303
Not that we've found,
but it's not like the agency
860
00:33:53,340 --> 00:33:55,617
ever returns our phone calls.
861
00:33:57,210 --> 00:33:58,727
Anyone who studied the past,
862
00:33:58,794 --> 00:34:00,121
knows that the CIA
863
00:34:00,158 --> 00:34:02,416
has a history of
violent cover-ups.
864
00:34:02,601 --> 00:34:04,751
MK-Ultra might have become public,
865
00:34:04,788 --> 00:34:07,570
but that doesn't mean there
still aren't secrets to protect.
866
00:34:07,606 --> 00:34:10,448
By uncovering Dr. Erickson's
connection to Westview
867
00:34:10,485 --> 00:34:12,799
and, discovering Bob's body,
868
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,970
I've put myself in danger.
869
00:34:15,153 --> 00:34:16,972
But the best way
to protect yourself
870
00:34:17,249 --> 00:34:18,699
is with the truth,
871
00:34:18,858 --> 00:34:21,059
which brings me to Caroline McGrath.
872
00:34:21,237 --> 00:34:22,978
Turns out Caroline is the one
873
00:34:23,015 --> 00:34:25,064
who hired Bob to go to Westview,
874
00:34:25,101 --> 00:34:26,713
and I need to find out why,
875
00:34:26,749 --> 00:34:27,941
before it's too late.
876
00:34:27,978 --> 00:34:29,980
I think...
877
00:34:38,266 --> 00:34:42,212
- What the hell?
- We got lucky.
878
00:34:42,295 --> 00:34:44,624
A woman in the neighborhood
heard a commotion
879
00:34:44,661 --> 00:34:47,043
and filmed Abigail's abduction.
880
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,005
Thanks to them, we were
able to track the vehicle.
881
00:34:49,041 --> 00:34:51,416
- Where'd it go?
- Back to where it all began,
882
00:34:51,834 --> 00:34:53,181
Westview.
883
00:34:58,850 --> 00:35:00,557
Police!
Drop the weapon!
884
00:35:00,594 --> 00:35:01,893
On the ground.
885
00:35:02,325 --> 00:35:04,477
Hands on your head.
Turn around.
886
00:35:04,764 --> 00:35:05,896
Walk towards my partner.
887
00:35:05,932 --> 00:35:07,731
Hands behind your back.
888
00:35:07,888 --> 00:35:10,681
- You OK?
- Yeah, totally fine.
889
00:35:10,718 --> 00:35:12,054
Carl's going through it, though.
890
00:35:12,090 --> 00:35:14,014
I never really even
knew my mother.
891
00:35:14,051 --> 00:35:15,405
Does anyone, really?
892
00:35:15,442 --> 00:35:16,990
What is going on here?
893
00:35:17,027 --> 00:35:18,710
Well, my friend Carl here,
894
00:35:18,746 --> 00:35:21,018
was being pressured into killing me,
895
00:35:21,054 --> 00:35:22,915
but then, we got to talking, right?
896
00:35:22,952 --> 00:35:24,373
- Yeah, and I couldn't.
- Yeah.
897
00:35:24,409 --> 00:35:26,400
OK, but pressured by who?
898
00:35:26,436 --> 00:35:28,710
Um, my boss.
899
00:35:28,759 --> 00:35:30,725
- Meg Davidson.
- Who?
900
00:35:30,807 --> 00:35:33,690
The current director
at Westview Psychiatric.
901
00:35:35,846 --> 00:35:37,637
But she started
working at the hospital
902
00:35:37,673 --> 00:35:40,055
long after Julius Erickson
went mad,
903
00:35:40,092 --> 00:35:41,474
and she has no links to the CIA,
904
00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:43,642
so, why would she try to kill Abigail?
905
00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:46,519
- To cover up Bob's murder.
- And who killed Bob?
906
00:35:46,622 --> 00:35:48,672
Can you introduce yourself?
907
00:35:48,709 --> 00:35:50,732
Oh, yes.
My name is Caroline McGrath.
908
00:35:50,871 --> 00:35:53,713
You hired my friend,
Bob Medina,
909
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:55,070
because you had questions
910
00:35:55,107 --> 00:35:56,969
about your friend Winona's
treatment at Westview.
911
00:35:57,005 --> 00:35:58,281
- Right?
- Yes.
912
00:35:58,317 --> 00:36:00,244
Of course, everyone
thought I was just being paranoid,
913
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,951
but Bob didn't,
914
00:36:02,331 --> 00:36:03,703
and it got him killed.
915
00:36:03,740 --> 00:36:05,289
You worked with
Winona Baker, right?
916
00:36:05,325 --> 00:36:09,167
Yes, she was hospitalized
with depression
917
00:36:09,204 --> 00:36:10,335
by her daughter.
918
00:36:10,372 --> 00:36:14,130
Seemed like therapy and some
medication would help her,
919
00:36:14,167 --> 00:36:16,716
but, Winona got worse fast.
920
00:36:16,753 --> 00:36:18,496
Lost track of reality,
921
00:36:18,533 --> 00:36:22,097
she exhibited signs
of psychosis,
922
00:36:22,134 --> 00:36:24,057
paranoia, dissociation.
923
00:36:24,227 --> 00:36:26,352
And by that point,
I wondered whether a transfer
924
00:36:26,388 --> 00:36:28,978
to a new facility might
be in her best interest.
925
00:36:29,015 --> 00:36:31,681
- And then?
- The director informed me
926
00:36:31,717 --> 00:36:33,939
that Winona's family
had gotten a judge
927
00:36:33,975 --> 00:36:35,319
to order a conservatorship,
928
00:36:35,355 --> 00:36:37,987
and, they wanted her to stay,
for good.
929
00:36:38,024 --> 00:36:39,280
You were suspicious?
930
00:36:39,317 --> 00:36:41,283
Winona always had her funks.
931
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,992
But she wasn't crazy.
932
00:36:43,573 --> 00:36:45,578
Until that place made
her lose her mind.
933
00:36:45,615 --> 00:36:47,498
And that proved to be
the break you needed?
934
00:36:47,534 --> 00:36:49,499
Yeah, when we started
looking into it,
935
00:36:49,536 --> 00:36:51,791
it turned out a significant number
936
00:36:51,827 --> 00:36:53,885
of Westview patients were wealthy,
937
00:36:53,952 --> 00:36:55,364
and a high percentage
938
00:36:55,401 --> 00:36:57,451
were ordered
into conservatorship.
939
00:36:57,488 --> 00:37:00,176
Now, conservatorship
is extremely difficult
940
00:37:00,213 --> 00:37:03,388
to get for an adult because of
the potential abuse of power.
941
00:37:03,425 --> 00:37:05,390
It gives one party
legal authority
942
00:37:05,427 --> 00:37:07,684
over certain aspects of
another person's life,
943
00:37:07,721 --> 00:37:09,418
including managing
all of their assets.
944
00:37:09,454 --> 00:37:11,313
It's like what happened
to Britney Spears.
945
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:12,981
"Manage their assets"...
946
00:37:13,018 --> 00:37:15,470
rich person speak for
controlling someone else's money.
947
00:37:15,506 --> 00:37:16,776
Yes.
948
00:37:16,902 --> 00:37:19,904
And money makes
people do crazy things.
949
00:37:20,104 --> 00:37:23,283
Like, um,
poison their family member's water
950
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,051
with a chemical cocktail so potent
951
00:37:25,088 --> 00:37:26,787
it has the potential
to permanently damage
952
00:37:26,823 --> 00:37:28,121
the human psyche?
953
00:37:30,186 --> 00:37:33,737
Yeah, just like that.
954
00:37:33,774 --> 00:37:35,211
I was supposed to inherit,
955
00:37:35,248 --> 00:37:39,653
but, um, after my break
with reality,
956
00:37:39,690 --> 00:37:42,427
my dad cut me off, and
my brother got everything.
957
00:37:42,464 --> 00:37:43,762
What's everything?
958
00:37:43,799 --> 00:37:46,347
Oh, about, um, $12 million.
959
00:37:46,541 --> 00:37:48,364
It must have been hard going
from that kind of wealth
960
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,976
- to nannying.
- Oh, no.
961
00:37:50,013 --> 00:37:51,686
No, it was a blessing.
962
00:37:51,731 --> 00:37:52,733
I...
963
00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:55,857
I really think that helping
children was my calling.
964
00:37:55,894 --> 00:37:56,941
Mm.
965
00:37:56,978 --> 00:37:58,181
Once we found the pattern,
966
00:37:58,217 --> 00:38:00,012
we started interviewing
some of the families.
967
00:38:00,048 --> 00:38:01,697
A little pressure,
and they cracked.
968
00:38:01,733 --> 00:38:03,073
And with the search warrant,
969
00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:05,366
we found the gun
used to kill Bob Medina
970
00:38:05,403 --> 00:38:06,951
in Director Davidson's closet.
971
00:38:06,988 --> 00:38:09,537
She'd been running
her scam for a decade.
972
00:38:09,574 --> 00:38:12,165
Turns out she was
Dr. Erickson's therapist
973
00:38:12,202 --> 00:38:14,019
in the last years of his life.
974
00:38:14,056 --> 00:38:16,879
He must have told her
about his experiments.
975
00:38:16,916 --> 00:38:19,181
In exploring his old lab,
976
00:38:19,217 --> 00:38:20,800
she'd uncovered the tainted water,
977
00:38:20,836 --> 00:38:22,425
realized its potential.
978
00:38:22,462 --> 00:38:25,261
And we had her
on murder, fraud,
979
00:38:25,298 --> 00:38:28,932
elder abuse, kidnapping,
attempted murder, poisoning.
980
00:38:28,969 --> 00:38:31,319
Miss Davidson, would you
like to make a comment?
981
00:38:32,047 --> 00:38:33,848
You know, this might
be your last chance
982
00:38:33,884 --> 00:38:35,814
to tell your side of the story.
983
00:38:37,201 --> 00:38:38,901
Look at all these people watching.
984
00:38:39,477 --> 00:38:41,861
The state ordered
a full investigation
985
00:38:41,898 --> 00:38:44,031
into every conservatorship
Westview ordered.
986
00:38:44,067 --> 00:38:45,342
God willing, the victims
987
00:38:45,379 --> 00:38:47,367
will get their rights and assets back.
988
00:38:47,404 --> 00:38:49,869
And Westview itself
has been closed for good.
989
00:38:50,063 --> 00:38:52,080
But, the lawsuits are just starting,
990
00:38:52,117 --> 00:38:54,666
not to mention the rest
of the legal ramifications.
991
00:38:54,703 --> 00:38:57,252
I'm glad this is getting
so much attention.
992
00:38:57,336 --> 00:39:01,346
These poor, abused patients
can finally get justice.
993
00:39:01,383 --> 00:39:03,475
Do you think it could
impact your case at all?
994
00:39:03,511 --> 00:39:06,219
It certainly gives my defense
a fresh coat of paint.
995
00:39:06,705 --> 00:39:08,763
If the jury won't listen to reason...
996
00:39:08,968 --> 00:39:10,723
because I am innocent...
997
00:39:10,916 --> 00:39:13,560
Perhaps they will listen
to the tragic story
998
00:39:13,597 --> 00:39:15,385
of a simple tradesman,
999
00:39:15,740 --> 00:39:18,189
falling victim to a
poisoned environment
1000
00:39:18,225 --> 00:39:21,442
that chemically affected my psyche.
1001
00:39:22,012 --> 00:39:25,146
And what did that
environment make you do?
1002
00:39:25,183 --> 00:39:27,230
Who can say?
Certainly not me.
1003
00:39:27,267 --> 00:39:28,616
I...
1004
00:39:29,076 --> 00:39:30,869
I wasn't in my right mind.
1005
00:39:30,976 --> 00:39:33,288
Yeah, the, um...
The poisoned water
1006
00:39:33,325 --> 00:39:35,999
was only found
in the abandoned psych ward.
1007
00:39:36,036 --> 00:39:38,626
No vending machines left
to fill there, right?
1008
00:39:38,945 --> 00:39:41,565
At this point, I must confess,
1009
00:39:42,077 --> 00:39:44,330
I did go inside that abandoned ward,
1010
00:39:44,366 --> 00:39:46,050
back when I was a kid.
1011
00:39:46,087 --> 00:39:48,928
My father's warnings,
they didn't scare me away.
1012
00:39:48,965 --> 00:39:51,723
They only made me
more desperate to see.
1013
00:39:52,110 --> 00:39:54,309
And whatever lurked inside...
1014
00:39:57,266 --> 00:39:59,232
Must have infected me.
1015
00:40:01,730 --> 00:40:02,859
Hm.
1016
00:40:02,896 --> 00:40:05,321
Glasser is claiming that
the presence of those drugs
1017
00:40:05,357 --> 00:40:06,517
would absolve him of
1018
00:40:06,553 --> 00:40:08,450
any alleged responsibility
for the murders.
1019
00:40:08,486 --> 00:40:10,200
There is no way that defense
is going to work.
1020
00:40:10,236 --> 00:40:11,786
We have Glasser dead to rights.
1021
00:40:11,881 --> 00:40:13,472
Are you sure about that?
1022
00:40:15,498 --> 00:40:17,172
Yeah.
1023
00:40:17,379 --> 00:40:18,719
Mm-hmm.
1024
00:40:28,528 --> 00:40:30,556
Hey, hey.
Sorry.
1025
00:40:30,593 --> 00:40:33,390
I know we talked about me not
recording interviews in here,
1026
00:40:33,426 --> 00:40:37,060
but Rodge mentioned he needed
a space with great acoustics.
1027
00:40:37,097 --> 00:40:39,395
And, you know,
we're shutting it down.
1028
00:40:39,432 --> 00:40:41,147
We're shutting it down.
Shut it...
1029
00:40:41,184 --> 00:40:43,483
- shut it down.
- Shutting it down, copy.
1030
00:40:44,012 --> 00:40:45,200
Hi.
Sorry.
1031
00:40:45,237 --> 00:40:46,320
She said this was cool.
1032
00:40:46,356 --> 00:40:47,421
You're going to help me
get these in the van.
1033
00:40:47,457 --> 00:40:49,113
- Right?
- I'll be right there.
1034
00:40:50,584 --> 00:40:53,326
Next time,
handcuffs and squad cars.
1035
00:40:53,454 --> 00:40:56,079
Yeah, totally understandable.
1036
00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:59,657
Thanks again for going
exclusive with me.
1037
00:40:59,693 --> 00:41:01,792
Seriously, this doc
is going to be huge.
1038
00:41:01,879 --> 00:41:02,919
I hope so.
1039
00:41:02,956 --> 00:41:05,780
You deserve something good
after what you've been through.
1040
00:41:05,816 --> 00:41:07,992
How are you holding up?
- Oh, I'm fine...
1041
00:41:08,097 --> 00:41:10,677
I'm happy to have
something to focus on.
1042
00:41:10,714 --> 00:41:12,720
When I've been through
some scary times,
1043
00:41:12,757 --> 00:41:14,713
I have been guilty of
1044
00:41:14,749 --> 00:41:16,791
using my work as my therapy,
1045
00:41:16,828 --> 00:41:19,644
but if there's ever a time
you need someone to talk to...
1046
00:41:19,681 --> 00:41:20,879
Thank you.
Really.
1047
00:41:20,916 --> 00:41:22,981
But I already have
a great therapist,
1048
00:41:23,025 --> 00:41:25,043
one with zero history at Westview.
1049
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,359
Excellent.
1050
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:29,860
You know, there's still
something I can't figure out.
1051
00:41:29,896 --> 00:41:31,767
How did you know,
1052
00:41:31,889 --> 00:41:34,450
that the PI was working
for Caroline McGrath.
1053
00:41:34,487 --> 00:41:36,180
Oh, Bob told me,
1054
00:41:36,217 --> 00:41:37,954
while we were stuck in the lab.
1055
00:41:38,044 --> 00:41:40,581
He got chatty once he opened up.
1056
00:41:40,773 --> 00:41:42,530
I have that effect on people.
1057
00:41:44,518 --> 00:41:46,880
We had to come back because
our job isn't finished.
1058
00:41:46,916 --> 00:41:48,548
This hospital
has housed killers,
1059
00:41:48,585 --> 00:41:51,427
evil experiments,
and perhaps the supernatural.
1060
00:41:51,464 --> 00:41:53,720
Our job as investigators
is to collect
1061
00:41:53,757 --> 00:41:56,347
and present questions
and possibilities.
1062
00:41:56,517 --> 00:42:00,184
Interpretation, however,
solely belongs with you.
1063
00:42:00,221 --> 00:42:02,145
Did Westview really...
1064
00:42:07,975 --> 00:42:10,486
Should we check that out?
1065
00:42:10,725 --> 00:42:12,732
I might be good.
1066
00:42:13,002 --> 00:42:14,968
You know what?
Me too.
1067
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,254
Whoo!
1068
00:42:19,395 --> 00:42:21,664
Oh, God!
1069
00:42:21,973 --> 00:42:25,973
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