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All right, so let's see.
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Y'all can still hear me, right?
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Y'all can still hear me?
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All right.
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If you are seeing this,
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then obviously the state
of Texas has murdered me.
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I'm sorry that y'all
had to go through that.
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I just wanna say thank you
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for being there for
me all these years.
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Thank you for everything, uh...
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It's been... it's been rough,
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but it's been good
having y'all with me.
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All y'all that stuck with me.
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And once again, I'm sorry I
had to go through this, but
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my pain is over.
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My suffering is over.
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All of y'all that know me,
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y'all know I made the
most changes I could.
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I bettered myself
as much as I could,
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and hopefully that's enough.
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I love you.
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FBI and law enforcement
across the country
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on the lookout for this man.
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A massive manhunt
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with a coast guard
chopper is underway.
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Ramirez went on the run
for nearly four years
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before he was captured,
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tried, convicted, and
sentenced to death.
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You have taken a life.
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Yours is now on the line.
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- How are you today?
- Good. How are you going?
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Sure, please.
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Thank you. Have a good night.
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I was a happy kid.
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I was a very happy
kid. I was very goofy.
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A goofball, you'd say.
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I feel like the older I get,
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the more I start
to look like him.
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You know? It's a
striking resemblance.
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I was 14.
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I remember waking up
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to police sirens and lights.
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So it was confusing.
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I was like, "What's going
on? This is not normal."
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I remember hearing
my mother say.
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Everything was just going
really slow in slow motion.
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I remember sneaking
out of the house
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and seeing his
body on the ground.
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I didn't really know
that that was him.
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What gave it away was the hat.
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This hat is just...
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When I was in the
courtroom and the trial
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and the crime scene
photos came up.
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I remember having to
get out of the courtroom
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and run to the
restroom to vomit.
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'Cause I thought
I could handle it.
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I stare at this picture a lot,
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Hoping that it's someone else.
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But it never will
be anybody else.
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John Henry Ramirez viciously
murdered my father.
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He should pay for what he did.
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I believe John has
been in God's hands
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from the very beginning.
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He's had three
saves of execution,
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and God has just
worked things out.
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We're going to sit in here.
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When John was in jail,
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he asked for the chaplain.
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Chaplain was a
member of my church,
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and I had been teaching Bible
study in the women's jail.
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So the chaplain asked me,
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"Would you be willing
to go see John Henry?"
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And I thought to myself,
"What am I going to say?"
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You know, this man
stabbed somebody 29 times.
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What am I gonna say to him?
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I don't know what to say.
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And so I said, "Lord,
you just take over.
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You tell me, you take
over the conversation."
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And he was so easy to talk to.
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I've gone every single
month since 2011,
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except two times when
I had knee surgery.
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One month John asked me,
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"Since all of my family
has abandoned me,
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"and you've always
been there for me,
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would you be my godmother?"
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And I said, "Yes."
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I was always in support
of the death penalty,
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but it took me getting to
know him as a human being.
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He is just not that
person he was then.
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He is not that person he was.
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I have a whole
stack of his poetry.
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This one is, "Where
did I go wrong?"
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Where did I go wrong? I said
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Where did I go wrong
in this life I lived
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where I take that wrong
turn to end up like this?
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I used to get in trouble
time and time again,
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but not to the extent
that my life would end.
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Now these sinful ways I'm
trying to leave in the past
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even though I feel the
present hitting me too fast.
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And now I realize you
gonna reap what you sow.
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So at the end of my days
as the chemicals flow,
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as my life slips away
and my body turns cold
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there's only one thing
that I feel you should know
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I made the best of what was left
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and I let my love show.
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But no matter what
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there's still one thing
that I'll never know
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and that's where did I go wrong,
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go wrong, go wrong?
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I said, "Where did
I go so wrong?"
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I've been here for 14 years,
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and so I've had
four official dates.
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You know what I mean?
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And this is the only date that
I'm not actually fighting.
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Execution it's now for me.
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It's a way for me to
finally leave this place,
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you know what I mean?
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It's not a good way.
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It's horrendous and heinous,
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you know, but...
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It's an out. I can be done.
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I can stop hurting all the time.
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I'll never be able to make
amends for taking a life.
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And I don't expect
to ever go free.
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Because I'm a murderer.
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Cause, like, no
matter what I do,
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What does it mean?
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I'll never overcome it.
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I didn't know a lot
about the death penalty.
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Texas leads the kill count
with, like, 522 executions.
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We should all know
that if we are imposing
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these things on our community.
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As the DA, we're in charge
of things like life or death.
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And that's heavy.
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Looking at these photos of all
the evidence that they took,
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and it's really
hard to make out,
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but it seems to appear
to be a lot of blood.
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A lot of blood from
a violent death.
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And that's something that nobody
should ever have to experience.
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This the inventory of
everything that was in
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Mr. Castro's vehicle
you see here.
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He spent a lot of time
in his... his van,
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Fishing poles...
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You know, gonna go
fishing or had been.
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Part of me would rather have
not wanted to see any of this.
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Because there's no way
you could look at photos
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where it says "In
memory of a kind man,"
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and not hit an emotional
place where you realize
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that that shouldn't
have happened to him.
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Then you start to
learn more about
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John Henry and all the things
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that may have happened to him
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to put him to that spot.
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It seems like even
before he went to trial
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that he had this thought
that he wanted just to die.
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Because he spoke
with an individual
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who does evaluations for
mental health issues.
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And he said that Mr. Ramirez,
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you know, wanted
the death penalty.
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My feeling would be
that he was young
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and he thought
that that would be
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the most honorable thing
that he could do at that time
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to show maybe he was sorry
for what he did, right?
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"Yo, I killed someone,
you can kill me."
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I hate playing that boo-hoo
story type of aspect.
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People be like, "You know, you
had such a terrible childhood."
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There's a whole bunch
of people that grew up
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in that type of lifestyle
that aren't murderers.
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So why didn't they end
up like I ended up?
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Because we each have
our own free will.
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The main source
of what shaped me
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is really my relationship
with my mother.
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My mother is very abusive,
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physically,
emotionally, verbally.
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Child Protective Services
took me away from her
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when I was young.
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'Cause she beat me
with a vacuum cleaner
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and split my head open.
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In the type of environment
I grew up with,
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violence is glorified.
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My uncle, he was
in the gang life.
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He was the one that introduced
me to that type of lifestyle.
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But you see, everyone
goes to prison
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or it gets hooked on dope.
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I joined the military
straight out of high school.
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I actually loved it,
man, it was awesome.
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The pay, the base is great,
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you know, everybody
loves a serviceman.
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And I was first
class in everything.
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But I got discharged for
fighting one of my superiors.
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Immediately jumped right back
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into my old lifestyle.
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Doing drugs...
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committing crimes
left and right.
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Basically being an
ignorant, violent person.
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To me it was just a fight.
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And you know, when
it got to a point
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where I pulled out a
knife, stabbing him.
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He had 29 wounds.
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19 of them were fatal in itself.
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The other ten were
defensive wounds where
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he kept trying to
grab the knife.
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When I stabbed him in the
throat and I saw that,
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I just stood there,
snapped me out of it,
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and I realized he was gone.
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I realized I went too far,
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and it freaked me out
so bad that I fled.
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What animals and people are
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to just kill him like
that for a $1.25.
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I just... I just wish they'd
really do something with him.
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I always wanted
to make sure that
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if no one else cared, I cared.
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I wrote a letter to
"America's Most Wanted."
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They posted a picture.
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That was the moment where
I really paid attention
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to who the killer was.
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Cops in Corpus Christi, Texas,
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say John Henry Ramirez,
stabbed a man to death
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during a botched robbery.
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Ramirez is a former Marine
and has this tattoo...
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And that went on
for several years
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when I was younger, that
he's never gonna be found.
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Until one day, I got a call,
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and the police chief was like,
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"We've captured
John Henry Ramirez."
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And then I was like, "Oh."
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And then I saw him
in the courtroom.
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I couldn't believe they
actually did find him.
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And I just had all the
anger and hate in the world.
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I wanted to just beat the
living hell out of him.
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You have taken a life.
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Yours is now on the line.
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Somebody kills your father,
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you're gonna just
forgive, and that's it?
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Justice needs to be served.
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I tried the first
couple of dates
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to set up a meeting with them,
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and I've just never
been able to do it.
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I know I'm never
asking for forgiveness.
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'cause, you know, I don't
think I could forgive somebody
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if they murdered one
of my loved ones.
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But I would try to
get my point across
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that I understand what I did.
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Understand what I did.
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And when I did it,
I did it carelessly.
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Just generally as a person,
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I was just a bad
person, you know?
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And when I went to
Mexico on the run,
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I had a lot of time to think.
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I gained a whole new family.
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Had a son.
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It just changed my whole
perspective on life.
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His name's Israel,
but we call him Izzy.
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I never had my dad in my life.
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So when I had Izzy,
I always said,
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"I'm gonna be a better
father than my dad."
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And then I ended up
being so much worse.
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He's 16 years old now.
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He's a real square kid,
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and I'm so grateful for that.
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One of the courses in
the faith-based section,
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you have to write a
letter to your victim.
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And when I got to
the end, I was like,
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"I want you to know you
made me a better person."
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"I never meant to kill you,
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"but because that happened,
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"it's made me a better person
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because it's made some
vast changes in who I am."
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You know? And it's a...
270
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it's a crappy way to say it,
271
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Abut it's the truth.
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All right, guys, um,
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good afternoon from
the DA's Office.
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I'm gonna wait just
a few seconds to see
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if anybody actually
gets on Facebook Live.
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Maybe we'll have a lot of
people, maybe we won't.
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But I wanted to discuss
today or inform the community
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of what's kind of been
going on here at the office.
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For quite some time I've...
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I have not agreed with
the death penalty.
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And not only will I not be
seeking the death penalty,
282
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I will not also be asking or
setting dates of execution.
283
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So my heart goes out
to the Castro family.
284
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There are no real
winners in this case,
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but I feel that in the interest
of justice, that our office.
286
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Shouldn't be involved in
murdering Texas citizens.
287
00:18:47,194 --> 00:18:51,697
I got with Mr. Ramirez's
attorney, Seth Kretzer,
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and I joined him in a motion
letting the court know
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why we felt the date of
execution should be withdrawn.
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What I'm hoping is
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we'll get some direction
from a higher court,
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and they'll say that I
have all the authority
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to withdraw that
date of execution.
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The proof is in the motion
Gonzalez filed today.
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He's trying to get Ramirez's
execution date withdrawn.
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I have, for a while now,
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said that I don't believe
in the death penalty.
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My office is not going to seek
the death penalty anymore.
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Withdrawing or keeping
the execution date
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is in the hands of the
judge from Ramirez's trial.
301
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You can't get a real moment
of time to heal properly.
302
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Due process was done.
303
00:19:34,974 --> 00:19:37,977
Now we're changing
our moral judgment.
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00:19:41,381 --> 00:19:43,815
For us, the victims.
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00:19:43,816 --> 00:19:48,020
We thought it was gonna
end with justice, right?
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And now, ultimately,
we're looking at
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possibly no execution at all.
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You have taken a life.
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Yours is now on the line.
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Psalms 30:9 says,
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"What will you gain if I die?
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"If I sink into the grave?
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"Can any dust praise you?
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Can it tell of
your faithfulness?"
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I became the godmother of death
row inmate John Henry Ramirez,
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number 999-9544,
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after he was abandoned
by his family.
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Last Friday, I spoke with the
director of chaplaincy for
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all of the Texas Department
of Criminal justice.
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The chaplain told me
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that if John can get
life without parole,
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this would give
him the opportunity
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to spend the rest of his
life as a field minister,
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sharing the word of
Jesus Christ to inmates
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in the prison system,
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wherever he is asked to serve.
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I am asking you,
Governor Abbott,
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to give John Henry Ramirez
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a commutation of his sentence
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from death to life
without parole.
331
00:21:04,531 --> 00:21:07,098
So would you be
willing to sign it?
332
00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:08,834
- Sure.
- I know you would.
333
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Come on and sign it right here.
334
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Just on the bottom,
sign your name.
335
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This Wednesday is the date
that he is set to be executed.
336
00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:21,246
So I'm driving to
Brownsville today
337
00:21:21,247 --> 00:21:22,714
to pick up Izzy, John's son.
338
00:21:22,715 --> 00:21:26,084
We'll be driving to...
um, to Livingston,
339
00:21:26,085 --> 00:21:29,020
and we won't hear until Tuesday
340
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or whenever the Lord
tells the governor
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what He wants him to do
342
00:21:32,692 --> 00:21:34,861
and pray that the
governor listens.
343
00:21:44,637 --> 00:21:47,038
When I first got into office,
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I didn't know a lot
of what was right.
345
00:21:51,578 --> 00:21:53,346
You have to make decisions.
346
00:21:55,448 --> 00:21:57,216
Texas is just a different place.
347
00:21:59,852 --> 00:22:02,153
I've gotten a lot of hate,
348
00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:04,756
And, you know, I get it,
it's understandable, right?
349
00:22:04,757 --> 00:22:08,326
Like, this man was
sentenced to death.
350
00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:09,929
He killed somebody.
351
00:22:12,532 --> 00:22:17,403
I don't know that execution
is the right thing to do.
352
00:22:17,404 --> 00:22:20,973
And I don't know if execution
makes anything better.
353
00:22:27,213 --> 00:22:29,615
Lord, I'm talking
to you right now.
354
00:22:29,616 --> 00:22:31,517
This is me, your daughter, Jen,
355
00:22:31,518 --> 00:22:34,953
and I am asking you to put
your arms around this car.
356
00:22:34,954 --> 00:22:38,123
We know that you want
us to go pick up Izzy.
357
00:22:38,124 --> 00:22:41,326
And, Lord, you know that
I would never say no
358
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to Israel being
there for his father.
359
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Just like you.
360
00:22:45,965 --> 00:22:50,736
Instead, just go worship
a perfect God today
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00:22:50,737 --> 00:22:52,838
in a place filled
with flawed people
362
00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:56,442
who need grace as
much as you do.
363
00:22:56,443 --> 00:22:58,978
And me, I need it, too.
364
00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:56,201
You're looking live right now.
365
00:23:56,202 --> 00:23:57,769
We'll take you live there, yeah.
366
00:23:57,770 --> 00:24:00,071
This is at the Walls
Unit in Huntsville.
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00:24:00,072 --> 00:24:02,774
That actually inside is
where the death chamber is,
368
00:24:02,775 --> 00:24:04,643
where John Henry
Ramirez's execution
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00:24:04,644 --> 00:24:08,548
is expected to be carried
out anytime after 6:00 p.m.
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On Monday, the Texas Board
of Pardons and Paroles
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unanimously denied his
request for clemency.
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00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:22,729
His attorneys say they've run
out of legal options to appeal.
373
00:24:40,346 --> 00:24:41,580
Hello?
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00:24:41,581 --> 00:24:43,081
- Israel?
- Yes.
375
00:24:43,082 --> 00:24:44,349
This is Denise at
the Huntsville unit.
376
00:24:44,350 --> 00:24:46,417
Would you like to
speak to John Ramirez?
377
00:24:46,418 --> 00:24:48,154
Yes, ma'am.
378
00:24:51,390 --> 00:24:52,491
What's up?
379
00:24:54,260 --> 00:24:55,394
How are you?
380
00:24:56,829 --> 00:24:57,829
I'm holding up fine.
381
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:59,331
How are you holding up?
382
00:25:26,859 --> 00:25:28,127
- Yeah.
- You know?
383
00:25:30,797 --> 00:25:32,430
At the end of the line.
384
00:25:32,431 --> 00:25:34,901
Yeah, so...
385
00:26:07,266 --> 00:26:08,567
Four...
386
00:26:11,704 --> 00:26:12,704
4:01.
387
00:26:13,773 --> 00:26:15,241
Yeah.
388
00:26:24,550 --> 00:26:26,619
I love you, thank
you for everything.
389
00:26:29,188 --> 00:26:30,722
Bye.
390
00:26:30,723 --> 00:26:32,424
I love you, too.
391
00:27:26,478 --> 00:27:27,679
Good evening and welcome
392
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,882
to "Execution Watch"
on this October 5th.
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00:27:30,883 --> 00:27:32,317
This is the show that airs
394
00:27:32,318 --> 00:27:34,219
every time the state of Texas
395
00:27:34,220 --> 00:27:37,089
puts a condemned
prisoner to death.
396
00:27:46,866 --> 00:27:48,633
You tell us about growing up.
397
00:27:48,634 --> 00:27:50,936
I mean, tell us about
your family and all.
398
00:27:50,937 --> 00:27:53,371
I don't want to do the
same old song and dance.
399
00:27:53,372 --> 00:27:54,773
Yeah, I had a bad childhood,
400
00:27:54,774 --> 00:27:56,541
but a lot of people
have bad childhoods
401
00:27:56,542 --> 00:27:58,243
and they don't end up
on death row, you know?
402
00:27:58,244 --> 00:28:00,378
You're a part of my
dad... my bad childhood.
403
00:28:00,379 --> 00:28:01,847
Opening it up for you...
404
00:28:01,848 --> 00:28:03,381
So that... would make
myself be put on death row?
405
00:28:03,382 --> 00:28:04,783
Typical childhood, you know?
406
00:28:04,784 --> 00:28:06,084
I'm one of the few
people that actually
407
00:28:06,085 --> 00:28:08,186
has taken responsibility
for the crime.
408
00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:09,855
You didn't take responsibility.
409
00:28:09,856 --> 00:28:11,522
You left for five years.
410
00:28:11,523 --> 00:28:12,891
And considering, like,
411
00:28:12,892 --> 00:28:14,459
a life sentence would
be the other option.
412
00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:15,693
Now, that's a real punishment.
413
00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:16,995
They really wanted
to punish this...
414
00:28:16,996 --> 00:28:18,864
Yeah, that's what
you were going for.
415
00:28:18,865 --> 00:28:20,431
That's what you...
he wanted this.
416
00:28:20,432 --> 00:28:21,499
This is such a...
417
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:22,934
This is stupid.
418
00:28:22,935 --> 00:28:24,335
Regardless a year ago,
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00:28:24,336 --> 00:28:26,404
he still felt what he
would probably feel today
420
00:28:26,405 --> 00:28:29,274
unless he had this huge
change of swift, of mindset.
421
00:28:29,275 --> 00:28:30,641
I don't know. Maybe
I'm wrong here.
422
00:28:30,642 --> 00:28:32,143
I don't know, but...
423
00:28:32,144 --> 00:28:33,879
At this point, let's
go ahead and go back
424
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,680
to Huntsville with Linda...
425
00:28:35,681 --> 00:28:37,148
Okay, what are we doing here?
426
00:28:37,149 --> 00:28:38,984
Tell us what's happened.
427
00:28:38,985 --> 00:28:41,319
The family just came across
428
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,721
and I guess they're
getting in their car
429
00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:45,524
to go to the chapel now.
430
00:28:47,393 --> 00:28:49,094
If you're just joining us now,
431
00:28:49,095 --> 00:28:53,064
John Ramirez is
dead in Huntsville.
432
00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:56,367
Let's bring it back
here into the studio
433
00:28:56,368 --> 00:28:59,704
with Larry Douglas, Pat
McCann and Mike Gillespie.
434
00:28:59,705 --> 00:29:01,606
That is...
435
00:29:01,607 --> 00:29:03,942
So many things
happened in this...
436
00:29:03,943 --> 00:29:06,377
I was told by...
437
00:29:06,378 --> 00:29:10,882
by John's godmother,
Jan Trujillo, that...
438
00:29:10,883 --> 00:29:14,954
that religion really had
become his cornerstone.
439
00:30:07,974 --> 00:30:10,676
John Henry Ramirez is dead.
440
00:30:14,513 --> 00:30:17,183
Do you know how
weird that sounds?
441
00:30:26,292 --> 00:30:28,627
But a life was lost today.
442
00:30:31,931 --> 00:30:34,465
A life was taken.
443
00:30:34,466 --> 00:30:36,301
Too soon.
444
00:30:36,302 --> 00:30:39,305
Just as it was when
I was 14-years old.
445
00:30:40,973 --> 00:30:42,508
And I'm not celebrating.
446
00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:45,711
This isn't a moment
to celebrate.
447
00:31:28,287 --> 00:31:30,288
Folks, we leave this place,
448
00:31:30,289 --> 00:31:33,225
and those of us with
faith leave with hope,
449
00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:41,667
Oh...
450
00:31:49,341 --> 00:31:51,309
Celebrate life, but
to skip the grieving
451
00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:53,545
means that, well,
you never loved him.
452
00:31:57,249 --> 00:31:58,883
If you don't wanna
grieve, then don't love,
453
00:31:58,884 --> 00:32:01,420
and then you'll never
feel the pain to grieve.
454
00:32:02,654 --> 00:32:04,723
It is not a life I
would recommend, though.
455
00:32:06,825 --> 00:32:08,159
All of y'all that know me,
456
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,461
I know I made the
most changes I could.
457
00:32:10,462 --> 00:32:12,897
I bettered myself as
much as I could and...
458
00:32:12,898 --> 00:32:13,966
hopefully that's enough.
459
00:32:16,168 --> 00:32:17,636
I love y'all.
460
00:34:12,017 --> 00:34:13,519
Okay?
461
00:34:15,254 --> 00:34:16,654
It's not my job to judge him.
462
00:34:16,655 --> 00:34:19,790
That was God's... Is God's.
463
00:34:19,791 --> 00:34:24,462
I... I have to accept
that and live that way.
464
00:34:24,463 --> 00:34:29,300
So I will accept what,
you know, his apology.
465
00:34:29,301 --> 00:34:31,469
Take it with a grain of salt,
466
00:34:31,470 --> 00:34:33,805
but I will accept it and...
467
00:34:51,757 --> 00:34:53,424
I'm confused, you think
I can have a minute?
468
00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:54,492
Do you mind?
469
00:34:54,493 --> 00:34:55,761
Yeah, of course.
470
00:35:09,841 --> 00:35:11,377
Oh, God.
471
00:35:27,593 --> 00:35:29,761
Okay, I'm sorry.
472
00:35:37,436 --> 00:35:39,638
I accept this apology.
473
00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:42,974
I accept it.
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