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Hey crime fans.

It's time for everyone's favorite podcast.

"How I met your murderer" with Mack Meyer.

- Well, hello, dear listener.

Our story begins on that most fateful of nights

in a young person's life.

Prom night.

For some, prom is the best night of their lives.

But the idyllic fantasy is not so for everyone.

- How could you?!

- One night can seem perfect, frozen in time.

But is it real,

or is that just the story that we tell?

We think we may know someone,

but looks can be deceiving.

- Just leave me alone!

- The brutal truth is,

that everything,

- please, let me go!

- Love, youth, infatuation?

Everything ends.

You know, getting in the water helps.

- But I keep bumping into people.

I can't swim in a straight line.

- You know, keep your head straight

then put your pinkies 11 and one.

I promise, that'll help.

- Thanks!

- I am such a big fan of the podcast.

I love this week's episode on the night stalker.

I listen to it before bed

which is not the best idea, but

you have such a soothing voice.

- Thank you.

Mmm.

- Gross?

- So it must be good for me.

You know, I think you're the only real friend I've made

since I've moved here.

- Trust takes time, my mom says.

I know school's not easy

when you're the weird murder mystery girl.

- I am that girl!

Must be why we're friends.

I still have no idea how I ended up

with the captain of the football team.

How does that compute?

- Oh, right.

Didn't he go here?

I think my parents know him.

- He did.

He was even prom king.

- Can I come by your studio sometime?

- You better.

It's a date.

- I gotta run.

Don't stay up all night listening to crime podcasts.

- I definitely wanna be there for your episode

on the blue ribbon killer.

- The what?

According to Andie, the blue ribbon killer

drowned three women in one summer.

It all started the summer after Henry finished high school.

- Foul play?

- And unsolved.

- How did we not know about this?

Okay, this is the best thing about you moving here.

Besides the super cush digs.

- Pretty great, right?

- For a house you inherited from your mother-in-law,

it's pretty incredible.

- I wish I got to know her better.

Yeah.

- And of course the best reason for the move

is more time with Henry.

- How could I forget?

No, but seriously, I’m thinking multi part series.

Or your first book.

- Are you?

- Mhmm.

- Tape first, then talk.

And even though his crimes took place

over the span of 13 years,

it would be more than 32 years later

before he was finally charged.

And that, dear listener, is our episode

on the golden state killer.

Remember, stay safe and keep your eyes and ears peeled.

Lest we forget, Liz Kloepfer,

Ted Bundy's ex-girlfriend.

Despite all the signs, she ignored her intuition

and didn't see what was right in front of her.

Look how that ended up.

Women, we are smarter than this.

So, for any of you murderers listening,

this is your warning.

We are onto you.

Please share your thoughts with me on social media

and more importantly, you can share them with me

in person at our upcoming live taping.

As always, I'm Mack Meyer.

June Kim is our fearless producer,

and we're signing off.

Au revoir. - Oh, wait, wait.

- What, too uppy?

Before we go, I wanna let you all know

how much I've been enjoying Pauletto protein powder

after my workouts.

Serves up the protein and electrolytes you need,

taste like my husband's gym shorts in a blender.

It tastes great.

Make sure to use the code "murderer protein"

for a 15% discount at checkout.

As always, thanks for listening

to "how I met you murderer".

Au revoir, and watch your back.

And how exactly would you know

what Henry's shorts taste like?

- Vivid imagination.

So, first recording in the new Clarksville digs.

- Yeah, how did it feel?

- You know, lacks the energy of the city.

- Mhmm.

- But, beats sharing a studio

with that Lego rubbing ASMR guy.

- Oh wait, I forgot to mention.

Did you see the comment board yesterday?

- No, what's up?

- Someone claiming to be related

to a victim of the lover's Lane psycho

is miffed about what you said.

- What did I say?

- After seeing a picture of Neil Kincaid,

I can see why he was chosen by the killer.

Exquisite bone structure.

- It was a compliment!

And he does have exquisite bone structure.

- That's fine, I'll delete it.

We had over 400,000 downloads last month

so your words are bound to ruffle some feathers.

- No, leave it.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion.

- Someday your tombstone's gonna read

"was always nice to psychos."

- One can only hope.

- Okay, lets dig deep on this blue ribbon thing.

Victim profiles, mos.

Research and pad Thai.

- Oooh. - Yum.

- I don't know.

You know we're halfway through the Bundy segment

for the live taping.

And I came here to focus on my marriage,

not get wrapped up in another story.

Blue ribbon's not going anywhere.

Besides,

this afternoon, we find out.

About the in vitro?

- Yes, I'm so sorry I forgot.

Look, don't worry about it.

You got this one, babe.

- We're both ready for some good news.

- This doesn't mean all hope is lost.

We do have other options to consider.

- How is it possible nothing is taking?

We're doing everything you told us to.

We're not eating processed foods, we're exercising,

we're not drinking.

- Not everyone takes on the first,

or even the second time.

We have to continue trying.

- I'm sorry, I have to take this.

Evelyn, has the deposition been approved?

- I'm sorry about him.

It's a very important case.

Please continue.

- I was just saying, not everyone takes on the first

or even the second time.

But that should not discourage you

from continuing this process.

I know how passionate the two of you are

and you're very much involved.

- Just a talking show.

Hey, I gotta go, okay?

I'll call you back.

Mack!

MacKenzie!

MacKenzie!

- Do you know how humiliating that was?

- Mack, this is my first chance to sit lead chair

with the partners.

You know what this means to me.

- Are you even disappointed that the in vitro didn't work?

- Of course I'm upset.

How can you say that?

I want us to have the life that we've always wanted.

- How could we have the life that we've always wanted

when you're never here?

- If I drive back from the city every night,

it's barely three hours of sleep.

We're in the middle of a trial, Mack.

Ugh.

- Your work wife's calling again.

- Yeah, you're really going after Evelyn now?

- Well you only talk about her

every five minutes. - Yeah we only work together.

- Yeah, that hasn't stopped you before.

- I was a different person back then.

I screwed up, okay?

I promise-

- it's not gonna happen again?

Yeah, you keep mentioning that.

- How many times do I have to tell you

I'm not sleeping with Evelyn?!

- Jesus, Henry.

I'll walk.

- And delete.

Well, hello again.

"You have no idea what it's like

to be the family member of a victim?

How can you be so cruel and insensitive?

You read straight from the Internet

and your catch phrase is dumb."

My catch phrase is not dumb.

Au revoir and watch your back.

Ah!

Oh!

I didn't mean to scare you.

- No, not at all.

Thank you for your help.

- I'm sorry, but do I know you?

- I don't think so.

I just moved into town.

- No, I definitely have seen you before.

- Do you happen to have an affinity

for true crime podcasts?

I do one called "how I met your murderer".

- I love that podcast!

But wait, I...

I've seen you taking out the trash.

I live across the street, I’m Oliver.

- Mack.

- I had no idea I was living

next to a real famous person, Mack.

- Podcast famous, barely counts.

What do you do?

- I'm actually a police officer

and amateur photographer.

- What do you photograph?

- I specialize in portraits, here.

If you do it right,

you can capture a glimpse of someone,

their true selves, and save it.

Forever.

- Well these are terrific.

- Thank you.

If you ever needed anything for your site

or promo stuff, it'd be my treat.

- Thank you.

- I'd love to get my work out there.

- Mack.

- Henry.

- Oliver.

- Wait, do you two know each other?

- Henry and I went to high school together.

- Yeah, it's been a long time.

- I was so sorry to hear about your mother's passing.

She was a lovely woman.

- Thank you.

She always spoke highly of you.

- We should have you over for dinner

so you two can properly catch up.

- Yeah.

I'll leave you to it.

Nice seeing you, by the way.

And I'll see you on trash day.

- Mack.

Mack.

Listen, Mack.

I'm sorry.

Look, what I did back there,

I should not have left you in there.

- I needed you.

- This case has been a big distraction.

I know that's not fair to you.

You're my world, Mack.

I wanna build a future and a family

here with you.

- I want all those things too.

I love you, you know that?

- I love you too.

Oliver?

I barely know the guy.

- Didn't you grow up across the street from each other?

- We took swim lessons when we were kids

but he was better friends with my mom

than he was with me.

- Hmm, he seems nice.

Kind of funny even.

- Maybe we were friends for a bit.

After his parents split he got weird.

I barely ever saw him.

He was always by himself.

- I'm thinking of asking Oliver to help with the podcast.

- What could Oliver possibly have to offer?

- A lot, actually.

I mean, I need a police officer's perspective.

- On what?

- The blue ribbon killer.

How come you never mentioned the murders?

- Ah, dammit!

Are you okay?

- Yeah.

I'm fine.

What do you remember about that time?

- Nothing.

I was away at college.

- See, all the more reason to ask Oliver.

He might have access to case files.

- Mack, I don't want you digging into this.

- Why not?

- Because, I mean, it was a social trauma.

I'm sure those people want to forget.

- But what if I can help?

Oh, I know.

You're jealous.

- What? - Mhmm.

- Okay.

I am not jealous of Oliver Turner.

You know, maybe instead of turning over all the rocks,

maybe you just wanna let it be.

- Ooh, Henry, you do realize

you've made it sound even more appealing.

I love you.

You better always be here.

- Ooh.

I like this bossy MacKenzie.

- Do you?

- I'll be back tomorrow.

- Have a good day at work.

- All right, love you.

- Love you.

Bye.

- Bye.

♪ Should I hang it up ♪

♪ can't decide, I'm going back and forth ♪

♪ I've been swinging like a pendulum ♪

♪ for you ♪

♪ I've been swinging like a pendulum ♪

♪ for you ♪

♪ I'll go to bed and wake up broken hearted ♪

♪ just one more turn and I'm back where I started ♪

♪ I've been swinging like a pendulum ♪

- What the?

Who is this guy?

Dejavu49, take a look at the person

you're married to?

I mean, are they implying that I am married

to a serial killer?

- I mean, I wish Henry was that interesting.

No offense.

- It's probably nothing.

Ooh, oh.

Fertility drugs still make you dizzy?

- Third time's the charm.

Oh, and I have news.

I am officially doing a deep dive

into the blue ribbon killer.

That's my girl!

- It's too good to pass up.

Okay, here are the details.

The victims were all female, brunette,

18 to 23, all found missing jewelry, and wearing,

Blue ribbons?

- Exactly.

Oh, you know Henry's mom was a hoarder.

You know maybe I can dig through her newspapers

before tossing them.

There might be some information.

- Oh shoot, I gotta go.

Big date tonight.

- Have fun.

And be careful.

Feel free to check my location later

just in case, you know,

it's in a ditch or something.

- That's comforting.

Bye.

Henry?

Hello?

Henry?

What?

- I was outside, I heard a scream.

Is everything okay?

- Someone threw something through the upstairs window.

- Stay here.

Whoever it was must have ran off.

I'll call it in.

- Prom queen killer?

What is that supposed to mean?

- Come on.

We can wait at my house.

- Thanks for talking to the officers.

- Of course.

It's kind of what I do.

- Also, swim champion.

Very impressive, officer Turner.

- Yeah, I mean it's not running down the field

with a thundering crowd, but I like it.

It's where I feel at peace.

- Me too.

So, you went to high school with Henry.

Did you know Lily Brooks?

- The town's greatest tragedy.

What happened?

- Henry didn't tell you?

She had an accident on prom night.

Drowned in the high school pool.

- Oh my god.

I do laps there.

Yeah, me too.

- The prom queen killer.

Do people think Henry killed her?

- No.

Sorry, I feel weird talking about it with you.

Maybe Henry should explain.

- Henry's not really the sharing type.

- I mean, people had their theories,

and yes, there was a time when Henry

was the prime suspect, but in the end,

it was ruled an accident.

- But obviously some people think it was him

and now we're back and,

- maybe it's hard for people to accept.

Listen, me and Henry ran in completely different crowds

but I never thought he was capable of,

Henry!

- Hey.

Are you okay?

Are you hurt?

- I'm fine.

The police, Oliver,

I think it was a one off prank.

- Thank, man.

I'm glad you were there.

- Of course.

If you guys need anything, just let me know.

- Come on, let's get you home.

What are you doing?

- How come you never told me about Lily Brooks

in the five years we've been together?

- When is a good time to bring up

your dead high school girlfriend?

Where did you find this?

- Henry.

This is a major detail of your life

that you neglected to share!

Come on, you can talk to me.

- She disappeared during prom.

Hit her head and drowned in the pool.

End of story.

- And yet the town thinks that-

- people are cruel, Mack.

God.

You know, I thought I had stayed away long enough

for people to move past it, but...

Look, I'm sorry I didn't tell you.

It's not something I particularly like rehashing.

- You wanna talk about it?

- There's nothing to talk about.

It was a tragic accident.

Come to bed.

- I'll be up in a sec.

Good morning, Andie.

Andie?

- My mom doesn't want me talking to you anymore.

I can talk when she's gone.

Sorry about earlier.

- What's going on?

- My parents can be really strict

and they said something about your husband.

- I see.

- I still wanna be friends, but

I don't wanna lie to my mom.

- It's all right, Andie.

You have nothing to be sorry for.

Now go work on that backstroke.

- See ya.

- See ya.

I found a ton of stuff on the blue ribbon killer

from back then.

Check this out.

Victim one, Cecilia Harkins, 19.

Two, Angelica masters, 17.

- She was even on the swim team.

- And third, Brianna park.

Weird.

Have you seen that photo of us?

I swear I put it up.

- So Henry might have killed his high school sweetheart?

- No.

No, that was an accident.

Henry obviously had nothing to do with it.

Wait.

- Please and thank you?

- Wait, wait, look at this.

Brunette,

young,

drowning.

What if Lily Brooks was the first victim

of the blue ribbon killer?

Mack, are you feeling okay?

- Exactly.

I feel it.

Lily fits the profile and the method.

This was an outside killer.

Henry had nothing to do with it.

- Okay, Mack, all these murders happened months later

and all in close succession.

- The first doesn't always fit the pattern

because it creates the pattern.

June, my spidey sense is tingling off the charts.

If we can prove that Lily's death

was connected to this serial killer,

we can clear Henry's name.

- Not to mention bring some much needed closure

to these poor people?

- Yes, of course that.

Come on.

We need to go see my neighbor.

Is he cute?

Who is this?

- He went to high school with Henry

and he's a cop.

- Well, hello.

- Well hello to you too.

- Oliver, this is my podcast producer June.

- Oh, the pleasure's all mine.

We might have a lead on the blue ribbon killer.

- Oh?

- Is it possible that Lily Brooks was connected

to the blue ribbon killer?

- Interesting theory.

Let me ask around the precinct,

see what I can find out.

Thank you.

We're also looking into Lily,

if you remember anything.

- I only knew her from a distance, but

her cousin Chelsea Brooks still lives in town.

They were pretty close.

- Perfect, thanks.

- Yup, we can't thank you enough, officer.

And you should come to our live taping.

- I would love to.

- Great.

If you give me your info I can email you a ticket.

- Great.

- Great.

- See you then.

- Bye.

Why would you do that?

- Did you move my hormones?

Nope.

- Oliver and June are coming

to my birthday dinner together.

You do realize that my birthday dinner's

on Friday, right?

I had a breakthrough today.

On the piece I'm doing on the blue ribbon killer?

- What?

- The blue ribbon killer.

Might even make it a feature for the live taping.

- No, you're not.

- Henry, if Lily is related to this

then I can clear your name.

- Please?

- But don't you think it's strange that all of these women

were drowned and- - maybe you should

take a break from the podcast.

- Excuse me?

- Your wild ideas aren't gonna bring anyone

back from the dead.

It's just for cheap entertainment.

Look.

I have a big day tomorrow.

Please, can we just get some sleep?

- Cheap entertainment.

Tell that to Michelle McNamara.

Thanks so much for catching that serial killer

no one else could find.

Mmm, gotcha.

Thanks for meeting us, Chelsea.

Can we record this?

- Fine.

Can't believe I'm sitting across

from the woman that married Henry Meyer.

- Thanks for your help.

We really wanted to make sure

that all of Lily's story gets told.

- Well be sure to include the part

where your husband broke her heart.

Prom night, she told me she was gonna end it.

Now I know what she meant.

- What do you mean?

- The truth needs to come out.

That is the only reason I'm talking to you.

Henry killed her.

Lily committed suicide because of him.

- Suicide?

But the newspapers-

- were wrong.

Her parents didn't want anyone knowing

that she was on antidepressants for months.

Maybe because her hotshot boyfriend

couldn't stay faithful to her.

Prom night, she took a handful of pills

and went for a swim.

- So much for my intuition.

- Do you think Henry knows it was a suicide?

- It's probably why he doesn't want to talk about it.

He's changed, okay?

I didn't say anything.

Sorry.

Don't worry about it.

- Well maybe Henry's right.

I should take a break from all this.

- Um, no.

Downloads are up 15k this week

and the live taping is sold out.

Look, we need to give the people what they want.

And what they want is you and murder.

Beautiful.

Ow.

Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow.

Man.

Ah, ow.

♪ I waited for you in the passenger seat ♪

♪ there's only so far I can ride in your dreams ♪

♪ while you were chasing everything else but me ♪

♪ I'm starting to break ♪

♪ out from your brain ♪

♪ see I finally opened up my eyes ♪

♪ and saw me coming back to life ♪

Hey, this is Henry Meyer.

Leave me a message.

- Hey, just checking in.

Hope the case is going well.

I love you.

Hey guys, I'm here in gorgeous Clarksville.

I just wanted to do a little teaser

for the upcoming live taping.

Now I am in the midst of a deep dive

into the blue ribbon killer.

The victims were all young women and all drowned.

Do you guys ever just have a day

where you feel a little crazy?

Like the truth should be one thing

but instead it's something completely different?

Really needed this love right now, guys.

Thank you, super excited to see all of you

at the live taping.

Well, a happy birthday to me.

Boo!

- Oh my god!

- Happy birthday.

Oh, what, you thought I forgot?

- Maybe.

- Happy birthday.

Make a wish.

Oh.

♪ Do you think about me ♪

♪ when it's dark outside ♪

♪ me when there's no upside ♪

♪ no prince or shining knight ♪

Cheese!

- So Oliver, how long have you been a cop?

- I joined the force about eight years ago.

My father was a police officer

and his father and his father and his father.

- Quite the Alpha.

I never knew.

- If I can intervene in a crisis or right a wrong,

there's no higher calling.

But I don't serve in Clarksville.

My father's jurisdiction isn't far.

I mostly lived there after my parents split.

- Hmm, it must have been hard.

My parents broke up when I was eight.

- So June, how long have you been working

as a producer?

- I was actually in publishing full time

until last year.

And then the show started taking off.

- June's creative direction

really made the show what it was.

- Oh, stop.

I couldn't get this one to write her bestselling trilogy

so this was the next best thing.

- Well, why make anything up when

the real thing is better than the story?

- Oh, let me help you with that.

Oh, no, no, no, we got it, sit.

- Do you like to travel?

- Oh my god, I love it.

Last year I went to Johannesburg, Austria,

Costa Rica and Vietnam.

Wow.

The furthest I've been is across the border.

- It's not for everyone.

I just get kind of antsy when I stay in one place

for too long.

You know what I mean?

- I like it here.

Nice people, great place to raise a family.

- Oh, kids are definitely not in the cards for me.

Zero maternal vibe.

- I was thinking of getting a dog.

- I'm allergic.

Mack, I was definitely thinking of a couple

different ideas for our new,

- hey.

Never really thanked you for looking out for my mom and

I know it meant a lot to her.

- It was my pleasure.

She was a wonderful woman.

She was really proud of you.

I love what you've done with the place.

- Yeah.

Yeah, I love this house.

Pulled me back.

I can't take the credit.

It's all Mack.

- Yes, thank you very much.

And, found a couple of gems.

- Oh my god, Mack, those are gorgeous.

Are those from Henry?

- Well, Henry gave me a great surprise this morning

but these are from Henry's mother.

Aw, those are so cute.

I mean it, you-

- take 'em off.

- What, I...

- Mack, take 'em off, now!

- You really embarrassed me tonight.

- I'm sorry.

I just think don't think

you should have put those earrings on.

- They're not your mother's.

Whose are they?

Oh my god, are these Evelyn's?

- How many times do I have to tell you

I am not sleeping with Evelyn?

- Get out!

I don't even wanna be near you right now.

- Ah, you, I can explain.

Just, I need time!

- What does that even mean?

- Grr!

Please, can we please stop?

I have to be at court first thing.

- You're unbelievable.

- You know, I'll sleep on the couch.

- Ugh.

What?

Hey.

Thanks again for coming the other night.

- Sure.

It was fun.

- Yeah.

So.

Where do you go so late at night?

- How long have you been waiting to ask me that?

Get in, I'll show you.

- Really? - Yeah.

♪ Come with me ♪

♪ let us go to a place they couldn't find yet ♪

♪ no one really mind it ♪

You have the keys to the school?

Perks of being an officer of the law.

- Wow.

- I get permission to come up here

whenever I want.

Usually after a late swim,

this is my place to get away.

- From what?

All the noise.

It's peaceful.

Hang on.

Oh.

Oh, I can't.

- Come on.

- Well, Henry and I, we're trying to,

you know what, maybe just a splash.

- Yeah?

- Oh, oh that's enough.

Oh, it smells so good.

So, how are things going with June?

- She's a great person

but she's not the one.

- The one?

I didn't know you were such a romantic.

You really believe in that?

- Of course.

None of us are perfect, let's be honest,

but there's someone out there that's perfect for us.

I bet you spent a lot of time alone as a kid

wondering if any of it was real.

It can be, Mack.

- What is real anyway?

- Trouble on the Meyer household?

- This move.

It hasn't been easy.

But it's nice to have an outside ear.

Thank you for listening.

- Anytime.

- So, any leads on the broken window?

- We think it could possibly be linked

to those messages that you're getting online.

Or just some kid.

- Henry's not very popular around here.

- Mack.

I'm not gonna let anything bad happen to you.

If you need anything, you just let me know.

- The first victim for a serial killer sets the pattern.

Often triggered by a very specific event,

a crime of passion.

When Dennis Rader, the BTK strangler

resurfaced after more than a decade,

he followed the same pattern

which eventually led to his arrest.

Later crimes may be precise and calculating

but always linked to the same passion

that started it all.

Like a first love?

Huh.

Hi, miss brook- - great, now the wife.

I'm sorry?

- Henry?

He just left.

- What did he want?

- For me to stay away from you.

Like I owe Henry Meyer a damn thing.

But men just want what they want

when they want it, right?

- I better.

Oh, right.

I wanted to ask,

did Lily have any other boyfriends or suitors?

- Just Henry.

But after you came by

I did pull everything I had from back then.

You're welcome to take a look for yourself.

Maybe you coming here actually did help.

And she can finally find some peace.

You really remind me so much of her.

That's from Henry.

"Lily, every time I read this I think of you.

Hither, hither, love."

Huh, that's not Henry's handwriting.

What are these?

- Lily's favorite earrings.

A gift from Henry, I think.

She never took 'em off.

That was one thing that always struck me as odd.

She wasn't wearing them when they found her.

- What, oh.

- Careful, please.

- Do you mind if I take a picture of this?

- Be my guest.

- Thank you so much.

I have to go.

Argh!

Ugh.

- What are you doing?

- Henry.

What are you doing back?

- Came home early.

Surprise.

Listen.

Now we can finally talk.

- Where were you?

Just now?

- Nowhere.

Mack, what's going on?

What's in your hand?

Mack, what is in your hand?

- Why do you have Lily's earrings?

You were there when she died,

weren't you? - How did you get-

- did you kill Lily?

- Mack, do you hear yourself?!

God, I mean your head,

you go to these crazy dark places!

I mean, like, how could you think that-

- why do you have these?

- You wanna talk about Lily?

Fine!

You know, I gave her those

when we were together.

And she gave them back the night of prom

when she broke up with me.

- And you kept them with you this whole

time? - Yes!

Because I feel responsible.

You know, I don't like to talk about Lily, because,

I was awful.

Look what happened.

You know, when she died,

I hated myself!

I went off to college.

I even abandoned my mom because of it.

But I don't wanna live like this.

I want to start fresh with you.

- How am I just learning all these major things

about your life?

I feel like I hardly know you.

- And then I do the exact same thing to you

that I did to her. - Henry.

- I'm not the perfect husband, Mack.

But I love you with all my heart.

I just don't wanna lose you.

Good luck with the case.

Thanks.

See you in a couple days.

- Ted Bundy's girlfriend.

What was she supposed to do?

I mean, he works late, and maybe

she discovered some weird things about him.

You know, but aren't we all a little weird?

I mean there's the car, the name,

and then the police sketch.

I mean now, there is real proof.

I mean she tells herself it's nothing

but you know, we see what we wanna see.

Before then it's just like, sure

maybe there's just some weird dead high school girlfriend

that you've never heard of- - Mack.

- What?

- That last part didn't happen.

- What do you mean?

- The dead ex-girlfriend part?

That's Henry.

- Sorry.

Let's just pick it up right before then.

- You know what, let's take a break.

- Sorry.

I haven't been sleeping lately.

- Well you better rest up for the live taping.

- Oh, right.

Did you forget?

- Remember those earrings I was wearing on my birthday?

- Henry's mother's?

- Not exactly.

- Dude, what the- - I know.

- Wasn't this the night Lily died?

- He had an explanation, but

I know I caught him in a lie.

You know, for a moment, I thought

Henry could actually be...

What?

- The blue ribbon killer.

- Mack, that is insane.

- June.

What have we learned from the stories?

I mean, serial killers are charming.

They seem like good guys.

Think about it.

Lily threatens to break up with him.

Then he kills her in a crime of passion.

Then he goes on a rampage.

I mean the details of the murders

are the same as Lily's death.

I mean what if coming back here triggers him

and then it starts again?

Then I'm just the dumb wife

who didn't see it coming!

- Calm down.

You are just overwhelmed

with the move, the in vitro.

And you have an Internet stalker, for Christ sakes.

But Henry did not kill Lily,

and he most certainly is not

the blue ribbon killer, you just,

- I just what?

- You just don't trust your husband.

And you're twisting it into this,

this impossible fantasy so you don't have to deal

with what's really going on.

- I'm just trying to be honest.

- Be honest with yourself!

Did you really forgive Henry for sleeping with that girl?

- What does that have to do with it?

- You guys moved back here

to play happy family in the perfect house

when you have rotten beams

all up in your foundation.

And while your work happens to be

both of our meal tickets,

you hide behind it just as much as you accuse Henry

of hiding behind his.

Try facing your problems instead of just

covering them up with a baby!

Sorry.

That was,

a little more brutal than

brutal honesty required.

- No, you're right.

I'm sorry.

I've been really self-absorbed lately.

- Don't worry.

Tonight's gonna be great.

- You sure about that?

- Buck up, cowgirl.

Your public awaits.

Au revoir, and watch your back.

- Hi.

- Oh my god, I love your shirt.

- Thank you.

I love "how I met your murderer".

My question is, how did you come up

with your tagline?

- Oh.

You know I just thought that au revoir

was just the coolest,

most crushing way to say goodbye.

You know, it has that certain je ne sais quoi.

And watch your back, well, it's just good advice.

- Is it true you're working on a story

about the blue ribbon killer?

- Maybe.

- Oh, thank you!

- My name's Kevin.

- Hi, Kevin.

- Hi, I love your work.

You spend so much time thinking

and discussing murders.

Are you able to sleep at night

or are you just up 24/7?

- Oh, you know I try to focus on what's real.

You can't just let your mind

spiral out of control now, can you?

- So when is your book coming out?

I would buy copies for my whole family.

- Oh.

Yeah, well we've talked about a book.

I think maybe I'll get something in the work.

Too many happening. - Thank you, Kevin.

Thanks so much. - Goodbye.

- Thank you.

- Bye. - Thanks, Kevin.

- Hi.

My name is Rebecca.

- Hi, Rebecca.

- I'm from Burlington.

I just wanted to say as a member of

this community my whole life

that I speak for myself and others

when I say that we don't appreciate you

prancing into our town

and making a mockery out of our tragic history.

Many of us are friends of,

or related to the victims

that you're using as entertainment.

Rebecca,

it was never my intention - you should be

ashamed of yourself.

- Okay, thank you so much for coming.

That's all the time we have.

Thank you so much.

- That was

great - a total disaster?

- No!

The fans love you.

Well, most of them.

Henry couldn't make it?

- He's busy, you know.

- Mack Meyer?

- Yeah, that's me.

- See?

Here, here, I'll put this in the car.

- Thank you.

- I'm Troy Kincaid.

- Hey Troy, thanks for coming tonight.

- You don't even recognize my name, do you?

- Oh, I'm sorry, I don't.

Should I?

- Neil Kincaid was my little brother.

He was a victim of a madman!

You just keep drudging it up.

Why can't you let him rest in peace?

- Wait, you sent me those messages?

And the way you talked about him on your show?

- Troy.

- It's just cruel!

I read about you too, Mack Meyer.

Married to the prom queen killer!

- Troy, I am so sorry about your brother

but I can't change- - drop the knife.

Drop the knife, buddy.

Drop the knife and stay calm.

No one has to get hurt.

Oh my god!

No!

Oliver!

Stop!

- Mack?

Stop! - Oliver!

Are you okay?

Are you sure you don't need to go to the hospital?

- No.

It's just a graze.

- Oliver, if you hadn't been there.

- But I was.

I told you, I won't let anything bad happen to you.

Hey.

You're gonna be okay.

- I should be saying that to you.

We need to get you to a first aid kit.

- Got one in my house.

Sure you're okay?

- What?

Yeah, not a scratch.

- You know what I mean.

♪ Oh what's your soul sayin ♪

♪ oh ♪

♪ is your world changing ♪

♪ oh ♪

♪ what's your soul sayin ♪

♪ oh ♪

Leaving?

- Yeah.

Just a lot to do today.

- Don't do that, don't pull away.

I'm right here.

- Oliver.

I just need some time to think.

- He's cheating on you.

- Excuse me?

- I followed Henry the other day.

He was with a blonde.

Think he called her Evelyn.

They were at a hotel.

- I need to go.

- Don't you believe me?

- I don't know what to believe, Oliver.

I just need to go.

- Sorry, sorry about that.

What were you saying?

- Oh.

I was talking about how I’m fermenting my own pickles.

In a salt water and lactic acid brine.

But the part you really have to look out for though

is the co2.

The whole thing could go boom!

- I'm sorry, can you excuse me for a moment?

- Yeah, sure, yeah.

When you get back I'll talk to you about pickled succotash.

Great!

- You're gonna wanna hear it.

Oh no.

Cecilia Harkins.

Angelica masters.

Brianna park.

Dammit.

Come on, come on.

Hey, it's June, you missed me.

Hey, you.

- Where are you?

At the school, just went for a swim.

What's wrong?

Are you okay?

- No.

I found something.

It's Henry, and I,

Come to the school, Mack.

Everything's gonna be okay.

- Oh my god, Henry!

What are you doing here?

- I lied to you.

And I came back because this has to come out.

- Hey!

I called the cops.

I know where you work now, buddy, they're on the way.

- Whoah, take it easy!

Oh, I recognize you from the other day.

- Yeah.

- Look, you don't understand.

- I've been going back to the beginning.

- I have to go, June's-

- no!

We can't run from this anymore.

What is that?

- I know what you did, Henry.

- Mack, listen to me.

- Oh, phone, shoot!

Mack!

Mack!

Mack, Mack!

What are you doing?!

, oh my god, Oliver!

- It's okay.

It's okay, I'm here.

- That guy you cut up, he's a police officer

and that's a felony.

That guy?

He's not a cop.

- Save it for the judge.

- No, hey.

Seriously.

That guy paid me to attack that lady

so he can jump in and save the day.

- You're not Troy Kincaid?

- Mike.

Listen, your friend was never in any danger.

I swear.

It was all rehearsed.

But if I were you,

I would tell her to stay away from that guy.

He's a weirdo,

like there's seriously something wrong with him.

- Oh no.

- It's Henry.

He killed Lily and all of those other women.

God, and how could I have been so stupid?

- It's okay.

Hey this is officer Turner.

We have a 1091 in progress.

Henry Meyer.

I'm at the high school.

Copy.

Okay, okay, squad cars are headed here and to your house.

It'll be okay, okay?

- Mhmm. - I hate to say it,

you're right.

Henry's a plague to the women in his life.

Hey, breathe, you're safe now.

Does he know you're here?

- No.

Wait, yes.

My cellphone.

I told June that I was coming here.

- Stay here, okay?

Don't move.

- What?

- Is everything okay,

June? - No.

Clarksville police department.

- Hi, I need to talk to officer Oliver Turner,

it's an emergency.

Turner.

Do you know what department he works in?

- No, sorry.

Wait, actually he's based in a different jurisdiction

not far away.

We have records of the entire state

but there's no one by that name.

Would you like us to check the,

- Oh my god, Mack.

Pick up, pick up.

Hey, it's Mack.

Leave me a message.

Sorry, I have to go.

Hither, hither, love?

- That's from Henry.

- It doesn't look like his handwriting.

- It's fine, I took care of him.

You're shaking.

- What do you mean you took care of him, Oliver?

- Henry's not a good person, Mack.

You're better off now.

You remind me so much of her.

- Who?

- Lily.

- Oliver.

What did you do to Lily?

The curse of Henry Meyer!

Even the most perfect girl,

a bad man can make ugly and cruel.

I just couldn't let that happen.

- What about the others?

Cecilia, Angelica?

- Brianna park?

Why do so many men think

they can get away with whatever they want, Mack?

With no consequences?

And you're better off now, Mack.

Trust me.

He won't hurt-

Mack!

You know we belong together, Mack!

I know you felt it last night!

Don't pretend it's not true.

- No, no!

No, no, no, help, help!

- How could you?!

It's over.

Just go, Henry.

Please, just go.

Lily.

- Oliver?

- You're too good for him.

This is our chance!

I know you felt it, Lily.

Don't pretend it's not true.

You loved that lying cheater

and you won't even give me a chance?!

- Oliver, please, just stop!

Please!

Let me go!

- Hello there.

You feeling okay?

They say it can cause some dehydration.

Lucky you, there's plenty of water.

- Oliver, where am I?

Oliver!

- Shh!

I'm sorry about this.

I have a surprise for you.

- Oliver, wait!

Tell me your story.

About the girls.

- Why drudge up the past?

- This is what I do.

Please.

- Remember the rooftop?

- You talked about the one.

- He's got good taste, I'll give him that.

These stupid girls cling on bad men.

By the time I got there, they were,

they were ruined.

- So what, you killed them and framed Henry?

- Oh, come on, Mack!

Don't pretend he's not guilty.

You saw it.

All you needed was a little nudge.

We see what we wanna see.

Isn't that right, Mack?

And now, For that surprise.

Here comes justice!

- Henry!

- Not such a big man now, are we?

How does it feel

knowing I can take anything from you?

- Oliver, what are you doing?

- Henry here's not worth you.

Or Lily, or any of them!

How does it feel, huh?

How does it feel

knowing everything you have I can have?

I could kill her right in front of you

if I wanted.

- No.

Oliver, get away from me.

- You didn't tell me to get away last night.

You hear that, big guy, huh?

She chose me.

Come here, baby, mmmm.

We're only moments away from our happy ending, Lily.

- That's not my name.

- Shut up!

Shut up!

You don't even know what's good for you.

And you, this is long overdue!

Soon you're gonna thank me.

- Oliver!

Get away from him.

- Shut up!

Get back here, come here, come here!

Come here!

Got you!

- Au revoir.

- Mack!

Are you okay?

I was so worried.

Mack!

- Henry.

I'm so glad you're okay.

I know.

I'm sorry.

I'm so sorry.

I think they need to get him in the ambulance.

I love you.

- I'm gonna need a lot of therapy

after this, aren't I?

- I'd say highly likely.

Did you really meet a murderer?

You know, that's just the name of the podcast, right?

It's a joke, like

you're not supposed to meet. - June, please.

In the end, the blue ribbon killer

was revealed to be Oliver Turner.

A dark, twisted man who let his hate

and delusions consume him.

"He seemed so normal" is the common refrain.

But is that real

or is it just a blue ribbon?

The people who come into your life can change you.

But I think I speak for all of us when I say

I think this is one murderer

we wish we'd never met.

I really can't thank all of you enough

for your support.

This podcast saved me, literally.

And I guess, while the story is sensational,

what matters most are the people around you.

Do me a favor, hold them close

and don't let a little thing like murder

get between you.

As always, thanks for listening

to "how I met your murderer".

I'm Mack Meyer, June Kim's our fearless producer.

And a big thanks to our guest Henry Meyer

and resident blue ribbon killer expert Andie McDougall.

And with that,

Au revoir, and watch your back.

- That was so cool!

- Maybe the best one yet?

- You might be a little biased, superstar.

This is my good side, get me from here.

- Well, I have got a long drive back to the city and,

ooh, chocolate chip oatmeal raisin

is gonna keep me company.

- Thanks Mack.

Oh, and my mom wanted me to give you this.

I think her and the rest of the town

feel bad for being so mean to you guys.

- Oh, water under the bridge.

- I'm just glad we get to be friends.

- Come on, kid, I'll drop you off.

- June, were you just being maternal?

- What has this town done to me?

- I mean it was a great episode.

- Quadrupled our listener base,

booked a national tour.

All it took was a run-in with a real live serial killer.

- Well, I mean they say relationships can get rough.

- Really, that's what other couples have to deal with?

- In that case, consider us superheroes.

But that means, I promise not to hide things

and try to fix everything myself.

Mack, look.

If we have problems, Mack,

we solve them together.

- Deal.

And from now on, I'm gonna try making up the murders

instead of living 'em.

- What, you're gonna,

- try writing a book.

- And it's gonna be great.

And maybe a good time to try ivf again?

- Well, you know, I was thinking the same thing.

Oh!

- In the meantime,

maybe we could try doing it the old fashioned way?

Yes, please.

- I love you.

A lot.

- I love you too.