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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,030 --> 00:00:03,270 Get up, hurry up. I don't wanna get up. 2 00:00:03,900 --> 00:00:05,170 I'm gonna get ya! 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,900 No, you're not! You're it! 4 00:00:08,700 --> 00:00:10,170 Where could they be? 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,000 I mean, they could be anywhere. 6 00:00:12,770 --> 00:00:14,530 What happened? Who took them? 7 00:00:14,930 --> 00:00:17,930 It's just scary to think that a monster 8 00:00:17,970 --> 00:00:21,400 came into our town and plucked two little girls. 9 00:00:23,170 --> 00:00:23,870 December 5th, 10 00:00:24,030 --> 00:00:26,330 about five months after the abduction, 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,970 we were notified that some hunters 12 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,730 had found the remains of two bodies. 13 00:00:32,070 --> 00:00:34,500 I received a phone call telling me 14 00:00:34,530 --> 00:00:37,100 that we needed to get there. 15 00:00:37,570 --> 00:00:41,700 It was pretty certain they were our girls. 16 00:00:48,770 --> 00:00:50,700 Seven Bridges Wildlife Refuge 17 00:00:50,730 --> 00:00:51,900 is a unique park, 18 00:00:51,930 --> 00:00:54,530 as in it's one way in, one way out. 19 00:00:55,770 --> 00:00:58,200 Seven Bridges was a random location 20 00:00:58,230 --> 00:00:59,670 to dump a body. 21 00:00:59,700 --> 00:01:01,800 It's so far out in the middle of nowhere. 22 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:04,099 Why here? 23 00:01:04,500 --> 00:01:06,630 What did those little girls go through. 24 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,600 If you scream back there, nobody's going to hear you. 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,870 Now, okay, well, 26 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,670 clearly once their bodies are found, 27 00:01:15,030 --> 00:01:16,770 we're working a double murder case. 28 00:01:17,230 --> 00:01:18,800 We had something more to go on, 29 00:01:18,830 --> 00:01:20,930 we had more physical evidence now 30 00:01:21,170 --> 00:01:24,270 that we could use to try and narrow 31 00:01:24,300 --> 00:01:27,230 the search down on who was responsible. 32 00:01:54,830 --> 00:01:57,229 A plan had been developed 33 00:01:57,270 --> 00:02:00,330 that when the girls’ bodies were found, 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,770 I was supposed to go to Evansdale... 35 00:02:14,070 --> 00:02:15,830 I was supposed to go to City Hall, 36 00:02:17,730 --> 00:02:21,530 yeah, and meet Drew and Heather. 37 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,570 So I did, 38 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:31,970 'cause I had developed a relationship with them. 39 00:02:36,970 --> 00:02:38,630 So, I met Drew and Heather there 40 00:02:38,670 --> 00:02:41,770 and Chief Smock wasn't there yet. 41 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:44,630 They had all kinds of questions for me 42 00:02:45,630 --> 00:02:46,830 and I didn't have the answers. 43 00:02:46,870 --> 00:02:48,246 You know one of the first questions was, 44 00:02:48,270 --> 00:02:49,900 "Well, did they find the girls?" 45 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:55,230 And I lied, I say, "I don't know, uh, 46 00:02:55,270 --> 00:02:58,730 uh, we're just supposed to wait here for Chief Smock," 47 00:02:58,770 --> 00:03:01,970 and I think it was Kent that told them. 48 00:03:04,870 --> 00:03:08,530 I got a call and they said, 49 00:03:08,570 --> 00:03:10,230 "You gotta get down to the City Hall." 50 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:14,170 We had talked about like 51 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,900 if they had found the girls alive 52 00:03:15,930 --> 00:03:19,730 that they would be rushed to Iowa City, 53 00:03:19,770 --> 00:03:22,670 to be tested and different things 54 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:24,270 that they would have to do. 55 00:03:25,070 --> 00:03:30,100 And so, I was like, they must not be alive. 56 00:03:32,829 --> 00:03:34,706 They were saying they were calling a meeting 57 00:03:34,730 --> 00:03:36,329 in Evansdale or something 58 00:03:37,170 --> 00:03:41,230 and I didn't want to hear what they had to say, 59 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:42,870 I knew it wasn't good, I don't know. 60 00:03:43,630 --> 00:03:47,470 I didn't want to lose my hope and so I just, 61 00:03:47,500 --> 00:03:49,530 I didn't, I didn't go down there. 62 00:03:57,170 --> 00:03:59,600 We didn't want it getting out in the media 63 00:03:59,630 --> 00:04:00,930 to notify the families, 64 00:04:00,970 --> 00:04:05,400 it needed to come from a friendly face. 65 00:04:08,670 --> 00:04:10,800 I've delivered a lot of death notifications 66 00:04:10,830 --> 00:04:11,900 in my career... 67 00:04:15,170 --> 00:04:16,170 none harder. 68 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,500 Those two girls had become my two girls. 69 00:04:24,930 --> 00:04:27,830 Kent Smock came in and I just, 70 00:04:27,870 --> 00:04:29,700 I'd seen his face and... 71 00:04:32,170 --> 00:04:33,370 I knew. 72 00:04:36,830 --> 00:04:39,770 So I called Heather and she said, 73 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,800 "They found them, they found them." 74 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,030 I just crashed to the floor and started crying, 75 00:04:47,570 --> 00:04:49,230 because I knew they were dead. 76 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:53,970 I remember laying on the ground 77 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,330 and just kicking it and crying and just screaming at God, 78 00:04:58,370 --> 00:05:02,400 "Like if you, if you are real, like why would I continue 79 00:05:02,770 --> 00:05:05,600 to call out to you or, or believe in you, 80 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,200 when you let little kids be hurt, you know?" 81 00:05:10,070 --> 00:05:11,800 My mom was the one that told me. 82 00:05:15,070 --> 00:05:17,150 It's been a while since I thought about that. 83 00:05:17,970 --> 00:05:19,800 She said, "Daniel, they've found them." 84 00:05:22,830 --> 00:05:24,170 That's all she had to say. 85 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:26,970 It wasn't, "They've found them, 86 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:29,600 let's go get them, here they are, you know." 87 00:05:30,430 --> 00:05:31,806 I remember just being numb, 88 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:35,100 just sitting there like what do we do now? 89 00:05:35,130 --> 00:05:37,730 We've been for five months looking for them, 90 00:05:37,770 --> 00:05:39,700 praying and hoping they were gonna come home. 91 00:05:41,630 --> 00:05:44,870 It's home but it's not home with us, you know. 92 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:48,170 Dad just got me this in church. 93 00:05:54,130 --> 00:05:55,930 The next day it snowed. 94 00:05:56,670 --> 00:05:58,300 Their bodies would have been covered 95 00:05:58,330 --> 00:05:59,800 for so long till spring, 96 00:05:59,830 --> 00:06:01,970 so I'm really grateful to the hunter 97 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,230 that he found them. 98 00:06:03,870 --> 00:06:06,500 I don't know how much longer Drew and I 99 00:06:06,530 --> 00:06:08,830 could have like kept going like we were. 100 00:06:10,230 --> 00:06:11,930 You know that part is done 101 00:06:12,170 --> 00:06:16,400 and being relieved and like feeling so guilty 102 00:06:16,900 --> 00:06:19,130 about being relieved, it's like that is, 103 00:06:19,900 --> 00:06:22,400 that will just... that will haunt me 104 00:06:22,430 --> 00:06:24,870 I think anybody that knows what I'm talking about, 105 00:06:24,900 --> 00:06:26,130 will agree. 106 00:06:27,870 --> 00:06:29,076 There's so many out there 107 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:30,340 that have lost their loved ones 108 00:06:30,370 --> 00:06:31,930 and they've never found them. 109 00:06:32,570 --> 00:06:35,570 I was grateful that we at least, 110 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,930 you know, found them and had some closure. 111 00:06:47,770 --> 00:06:48,976 We know what happened now, 112 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,330 it's the worst possible scenario 113 00:06:50,370 --> 00:06:51,800 we could have imagined, 114 00:06:51,830 --> 00:06:54,630 they're dead, and we want the person 115 00:06:54,670 --> 00:06:56,830 or persons that did it, and, you know, so it's, 116 00:06:56,870 --> 00:06:58,400 everything's ramped up again. 117 00:06:59,500 --> 00:07:01,830 Seven Bridges County Park, 118 00:07:02,170 --> 00:07:04,500 we're looking at that as a crime scene. 119 00:07:04,530 --> 00:07:06,630 We have to process that crime scene. 120 00:07:07,730 --> 00:07:09,500 Where the girls were found 121 00:07:09,530 --> 00:07:14,200 was some distance away from any parking area or road. 122 00:07:14,500 --> 00:07:15,900 I don't want to go into the graphics 123 00:07:15,930 --> 00:07:17,570 of what I saw, 124 00:07:18,730 --> 00:07:21,630 but since there was footwear on them, 125 00:07:21,670 --> 00:07:24,170 we could surmise the girls went there 126 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,430 on their own power, 127 00:07:25,830 --> 00:07:28,000 but it doesn't necessarily mean that, 128 00:07:28,030 --> 00:07:29,700 it could have been that they were carried, 129 00:07:29,730 --> 00:07:32,370 that there was more than one person responsible, 130 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,170 at that point anyway. 131 00:07:34,570 --> 00:07:37,170 We knew that their clothing was there, 132 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,900 their full clothing was there. 133 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,280 I had one question for them and that was just, 134 00:07:41,330 --> 00:07:43,800 "Were they found together, were they together?" 135 00:07:44,370 --> 00:07:45,930 And he said, "Yeah, they were together." 136 00:07:46,330 --> 00:07:47,870 At least they had each other, you know. 137 00:07:48,970 --> 00:07:51,030 And he said, "And Lyric had her flip-flops on." 138 00:07:51,630 --> 00:07:53,970 I didn't ask them for that, you know, 139 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,800 that tells me more than I need to know, 140 00:07:56,430 --> 00:07:58,230 you know, that she trusted and believed 141 00:07:58,270 --> 00:08:00,430 that if she just went along with whatever's going on, 142 00:08:00,470 --> 00:08:02,870 that she would come out okay, everything will be alright. 143 00:08:03,230 --> 00:08:05,470 You know, she's so trusting, she didn't realize 144 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:07,070 how dark this world was 145 00:08:07,100 --> 00:08:08,930 and how evil these people could be. 146 00:08:10,670 --> 00:08:13,000 I do believe that had somebody 147 00:08:13,030 --> 00:08:14,770 taken them that they didn't know, 148 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,400 I do believe she would have fought, 149 00:08:16,830 --> 00:08:18,400 and I do believe she would have tried 150 00:08:18,430 --> 00:08:19,600 to protect Elizabeth. 151 00:08:20,770 --> 00:08:22,430 I rely on my faith a lot. 152 00:08:23,270 --> 00:08:26,070 I'm hoping that somehow 153 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,669 God gave them comfort as they were dying. 154 00:08:38,100 --> 00:08:41,130 One of the big questions in this case 155 00:08:41,169 --> 00:08:44,169 was how long were Lyric and Elizabeth alive. 156 00:08:44,500 --> 00:08:45,876 There's a number of different scenarios 157 00:08:45,900 --> 00:08:48,000 that could have happened to the girls, 158 00:08:48,430 --> 00:08:51,230 one being they're abducted and killed the same day, 159 00:08:51,270 --> 00:08:53,500 another being they were abducted 160 00:08:53,530 --> 00:08:55,630 and held for a period of time, 161 00:08:55,670 --> 00:08:58,300 and then murdered and left in Seven Bridges. 162 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:00,900 Investigators have never revealed 163 00:09:00,930 --> 00:09:03,100 whether the girls were sexually assaulted, 164 00:09:03,130 --> 00:09:05,200 because the investigation is ongoing. 165 00:09:08,300 --> 00:09:11,000 Statistics show that so many of these kids 166 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:13,070 are killed within the first hour. 167 00:09:13,930 --> 00:09:16,170 I'm convinced within 24 hours those girls were dead, 168 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,900 that day, probably Friday. 169 00:09:20,530 --> 00:09:23,830 Seven Bridges area, it's all recreation area 170 00:09:23,870 --> 00:09:27,100 that people use for hunting and also 171 00:09:27,130 --> 00:09:28,146 from everything I've learned, 172 00:09:28,170 --> 00:09:29,870 it's a magnet for bad activity. 173 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,430 The Waterloo Police Department has discovered 174 00:09:33,970 --> 00:09:35,930 evidence of crimes there, some..., 175 00:09:35,970 --> 00:09:38,030 we'll have a burglary and so we'll find 176 00:09:38,070 --> 00:09:39,900 a safe dumped there, 177 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:42,930 or a firearm will be discarded. 178 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:45,070 So, it's an area that's well known 179 00:09:45,100 --> 00:09:46,870 with a criminal element. 180 00:09:48,500 --> 00:09:51,100 Seven Bridges Park is what I would call 181 00:09:51,130 --> 00:09:52,430 extremely remote, 182 00:09:52,470 --> 00:09:53,606 if you didn't know it was there, 183 00:09:53,630 --> 00:09:54,876 you wouldn't just stumble across it, 184 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:57,070 you wouldn't just be driving down a road and say, 185 00:09:57,100 --> 00:09:58,500 "Oh there's a park," you know, 186 00:09:58,530 --> 00:10:01,100 if you're looking for a place to dump the bodies. 187 00:10:01,130 --> 00:10:03,030 We can make a pretty strong argument 188 00:10:03,070 --> 00:10:05,370 that the person knew that park existed, 189 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,200 had been to that park before, 190 00:10:07,230 --> 00:10:08,770 had some connection to that park 191 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,040 and clearly had some connection 192 00:10:10,070 --> 00:10:10,930 back to Evansdale, 193 00:10:10,970 --> 00:10:12,106 and you've got cellphone towers 194 00:10:12,130 --> 00:10:12,730 up in that area, 195 00:10:12,970 --> 00:10:14,730 you've got cellphone towers down here. 196 00:10:14,770 --> 00:10:15,430 Can we find people 197 00:10:15,630 --> 00:10:18,170 that their phones are pinging down here, 198 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,970 and then they were pinging up there, 199 00:10:20,430 --> 00:10:23,070 and what's your time frame, what's your window? 200 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:24,370 Well, it's five months. 201 00:10:27,500 --> 00:10:29,900 A short period of time after the bodies were found 202 00:10:29,930 --> 00:10:31,210 there were over a thousand people 203 00:10:31,330 --> 00:10:33,046 that had been interviewed. People started calling in tips, 204 00:10:33,070 --> 00:10:34,276 "Hey you need to look at this guy, 205 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:35,506 he used to go up there and hunt, 206 00:10:35,530 --> 00:10:36,706 he used to go up there and fish, 207 00:10:36,730 --> 00:10:38,430 or he used to go up there and whatever." 208 00:10:38,870 --> 00:10:42,270 So it generated a new energy, a new focus 209 00:10:42,300 --> 00:10:45,130 and a new level of activity in the case. 210 00:10:45,370 --> 00:10:48,300 Now the resources that had dwindled, back, 211 00:10:48,330 --> 00:10:50,000 you know, pretty much full strength. 212 00:10:50,030 --> 00:10:52,530 Well, now we need them where the bodies were found, 213 00:10:52,570 --> 00:10:55,170 there's a neighborhood around Seven Bridges 214 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,800 that needs to canvassed. 215 00:10:56,830 --> 00:10:59,070 It was a common area for hunters, 216 00:10:59,300 --> 00:11:02,500 so we started looking at hunting licenses, 217 00:11:02,530 --> 00:11:05,630 people that were known to hunt that area. 218 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,300 We wanted to know who was familiar enough 219 00:11:08,330 --> 00:11:09,800 with Seven Bridges 220 00:11:09,830 --> 00:11:13,800 that could get in and out basically unseen. 221 00:11:14,130 --> 00:11:17,600 Motive for this case still troubles me. 222 00:11:17,770 --> 00:11:20,770 I don't know if it's retribution 223 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,800 through the drug trade 224 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:26,470 or if the motive is sexual in nature. 225 00:11:26,730 --> 00:11:29,070 Statistically they're sexual in nature. 226 00:11:29,100 --> 00:11:32,930 In this general area has the most sex offenders. 227 00:11:33,300 --> 00:11:36,100 We've talked to well over 300 sex offenders 228 00:11:36,130 --> 00:11:39,370 but once we started working the Seven Bridges area too, 229 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,100 we started reaching out 230 00:11:41,130 --> 00:11:43,330 and doing a radius in that area. 231 00:11:45,170 --> 00:11:47,106 It's a difficult chore to go somebody in December 232 00:11:47,130 --> 00:11:51,200 and say, "Did you see anything suspicious back in July?" 233 00:12:02,900 --> 00:12:06,070 Did the investigators reveal any details to you 234 00:12:06,100 --> 00:12:09,900 about how the girls died or anything like that? 235 00:12:09,930 --> 00:12:12,630 Absolutely not. Absolutely not. 236 00:12:13,270 --> 00:12:15,400 It was very hard for me to believe 237 00:12:15,430 --> 00:12:16,700 that that was her, 238 00:12:16,730 --> 00:12:19,070 because I've never seen any coroner's report 239 00:12:19,100 --> 00:12:20,970 or not getting information 240 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,770 about how she died, how they know it's her, 241 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,720 you know, and I've never seen anything like that. 242 00:12:26,330 --> 00:12:27,230 I understand 243 00:12:27,270 --> 00:12:28,600 why we can't know that information 244 00:12:28,630 --> 00:12:30,570 but, you know, nobody said, 245 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,430 "oh, well, we did a dental record 246 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:34,700 or we did this and matched it to this 247 00:12:34,730 --> 00:12:35,806 and that's how we know for sure 248 00:12:35,830 --> 00:12:37,330 that that's your kid. 249 00:12:37,370 --> 00:12:38,876 I don't know what they went through 250 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:40,170 but I can only imagine. 251 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,070 That's something you sit and wonder about, 252 00:12:43,100 --> 00:12:45,270 is like what did this bastard do to them girls? 253 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:57,300 Iowa DCI does a phenomenal job. 254 00:12:57,470 --> 00:13:00,300 They play their cards really close to their chest. 255 00:13:00,900 --> 00:13:03,670 They don't let out to the public 256 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:05,330 what only the killer would know. 257 00:13:05,830 --> 00:13:09,330 Only the investigators who are closest to this investigation 258 00:13:09,370 --> 00:13:10,900 should have that knowledge. 259 00:13:10,930 --> 00:13:12,646 We had a number of false confessions, 260 00:13:12,670 --> 00:13:15,630 people that would come in and claim responsibilities. 261 00:13:16,570 --> 00:13:19,830 Some of them were people that had mental illness, 262 00:13:19,870 --> 00:13:22,370 and there were a couple that were looking 263 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,430 for their five minutes of fame. 264 00:13:25,470 --> 00:13:27,870 But we would have to ask them particulars 265 00:13:27,900 --> 00:13:29,530 and some of the easiest ones were, 266 00:13:29,570 --> 00:13:31,000 "What were the girls wearing? 267 00:13:32,770 --> 00:13:34,170 What color were their bikes?" 268 00:13:34,870 --> 00:13:38,430 There were a series of checks and balances in place. 269 00:13:39,670 --> 00:13:41,076 The other part of the equation 270 00:13:41,100 --> 00:13:44,330 is you hope whoever did this, you know, hasn't done it again 271 00:13:44,830 --> 00:13:46,070 and won't do it again, 272 00:13:46,100 --> 00:13:48,130 and so all those thoughts go through your mind. 273 00:14:04,970 --> 00:14:07,500 Double abductions or dual abductions, 274 00:14:07,730 --> 00:14:11,170 you know, there's only been 15 of them since the 70s. 275 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,600 Evansdale was number 16 and shockingly number 17 276 00:14:15,630 --> 00:14:17,500 would happen less than a year later, 277 00:14:17,770 --> 00:14:18,870 also in Iowa. 278 00:14:30,770 --> 00:14:32,406 Dayton was just like any other town 279 00:14:32,430 --> 00:14:36,000 in America's heartland; a nice quiet small town. 280 00:14:36,030 --> 00:14:39,130 We do have our national circuit rodeo every year. 281 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:45,400 In May 2013, there was myself as the only full-time officer. 282 00:14:45,430 --> 00:14:47,670 Crime-wise, not a lot. 283 00:14:48,430 --> 00:14:52,230 I would see Kathlynn every day, 284 00:14:52,270 --> 00:14:53,930 if not every other day. 285 00:14:54,530 --> 00:14:58,130 Always would see her walking, had a ball cap on. 286 00:14:58,170 --> 00:15:00,330 She was typically holding a football 287 00:15:00,370 --> 00:15:01,970 or some type of ball. 288 00:15:03,830 --> 00:15:06,730 Dezi I... she was one that I'd never really had 289 00:15:06,770 --> 00:15:09,370 much contact with prior to the incident. 290 00:15:09,970 --> 00:15:12,130 We didn't really see her out too much. 291 00:15:12,730 --> 00:15:14,630 But yeah, I do remember Kathlynn, 292 00:15:14,670 --> 00:15:16,200 I'd see her quite a bit. 293 00:15:17,070 --> 00:15:19,970 So tell me about Kathlynn Shepard. 294 00:15:21,430 --> 00:15:25,170 She was the coolest person in the world. 295 00:15:27,270 --> 00:15:29,670 Me and Kathlynn used to go to the bus together, 296 00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:31,570 we used to come home together, 297 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,370 we'd hang out in my front lawn with my dog George. 298 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,246 Every time we were together, we were having fun. 299 00:15:36,270 --> 00:15:38,300 She was always smiling, we were always laughing. 300 00:15:38,330 --> 00:15:41,270 She had these little rubber bands on her braces 301 00:15:41,300 --> 00:15:42,870 and I would say the stupidest things 302 00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:45,270 to make her laugh, and she'd laugh so hard 303 00:15:45,300 --> 00:15:47,430 her mouth would open too far and they'd snap. 304 00:15:47,470 --> 00:15:48,900 So, she carried this little bag 305 00:15:48,930 --> 00:15:50,100 of rubber bands with her, 306 00:15:50,130 --> 00:15:51,600 she'd be like, "Ouch." 307 00:15:51,630 --> 00:15:53,246 And I'm like, "What?" She'd pull out the bag, 308 00:15:53,270 --> 00:15:54,806 I'm like "Another one?" And then she'd just 309 00:15:54,830 --> 00:15:57,670 keep doing it and it was the funniest stuff ever. 310 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,600 She was so outgoing, she was funny. 311 00:16:02,030 --> 00:16:04,130 She was my best friend 312 00:16:05,530 --> 00:16:08,530 when I was 12 and she was 15. 313 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,830 My best memory was Kathlynn would have to be 314 00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:14,100 laughing on the school bus 315 00:16:14,130 --> 00:16:15,530 and then every time we came home 316 00:16:15,570 --> 00:16:17,230 she always grabbed me a Mountain Dew 317 00:16:17,270 --> 00:16:18,330 and her a Pepsi. 318 00:16:18,370 --> 00:16:20,300 And then we'd drop her stuff off, 319 00:16:20,330 --> 00:16:21,170 I'd go to her house 320 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,770 and then she'd come to my house. 321 00:16:24,230 --> 00:16:26,170 I can't drink Pepsi anymore. 322 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,630 We were walking our normal route, 323 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,470 after the bus, 324 00:16:46,300 --> 00:16:49,830 and then this man pulled up next to us. 325 00:16:50,370 --> 00:16:53,700 We were not even a block away from our house 326 00:16:53,970 --> 00:16:57,470 and he pulled up in a red truck 327 00:16:57,500 --> 00:17:01,400 and asked if we were willing to make money to go mow lawn, 328 00:17:01,430 --> 00:17:03,400 since it was a hot day, he needed help 329 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:06,569 and it was a lot of land, and we told him 330 00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:08,700 we had to ask our parents first, 331 00:17:08,730 --> 00:17:10,569 we're not even a block away, I was like, 332 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:12,276 "We're just gonna run home, drop our stuff off 333 00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:14,630 and ask if that's okay." 334 00:17:14,670 --> 00:17:15,900 He offered to give us a ride. 335 00:17:15,930 --> 00:17:18,230 So, we got in the truck... 336 00:17:26,099 --> 00:17:28,500 He told us, you know, like his name was Michael 337 00:17:28,530 --> 00:17:30,570 and he offered to shake our hands. 338 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,800 He's a pretty big guy, 339 00:17:32,830 --> 00:17:37,300 he's kind of like 250 to 280 lbs. 340 00:17:38,870 --> 00:17:40,600 He started going the opposite direction 341 00:17:40,630 --> 00:17:44,730 of our house and, you know, that kind of felt weird 342 00:17:44,770 --> 00:17:45,670 and it was wrong really 343 00:17:45,700 --> 00:17:46,846 but we've got to ask our parents, 344 00:17:46,870 --> 00:17:48,200 we can't just go first. 345 00:17:48,770 --> 00:17:51,070 He was like, "Well, you can just use my phone, 346 00:17:51,100 --> 00:17:52,746 there's one at the house that you could use" 347 00:17:52,770 --> 00:17:54,230 told us we were going to a house. 348 00:17:58,700 --> 00:18:01,030 He took us like this weird way out of Dayton 349 00:18:01,070 --> 00:18:03,100 and then he took the back roads. 350 00:18:04,770 --> 00:18:07,300 He just kept driving and wouldn't turn around. 351 00:18:07,330 --> 00:18:10,770 It just seemed more and more like... 352 00:18:11,370 --> 00:18:13,930 unsettling the farther we got. 353 00:18:21,270 --> 00:18:24,170 He took gravel as much of the way as he could, 354 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,100 which was weird to us 'cause, you know, 355 00:18:26,130 --> 00:18:27,770 he could use the main road. 356 00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:40,070 When we got there, there's two hog confinements 357 00:18:40,100 --> 00:18:41,900 and there was a shed in front of the lawn. 358 00:18:42,970 --> 00:18:44,100 He pointed and he's like, 359 00:18:44,130 --> 00:18:45,246 "Oh, in there is the lawn mowers," 360 00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:47,006 and we walked in and then we're kind of looking around 361 00:18:47,030 --> 00:18:49,970 and we're just like, we went to turn around 362 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,730 and he had a gun pointed at us. 363 00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:59,600 Kathlynn felt really scared. 364 00:19:01,030 --> 00:19:03,400 He told us to get on the ground 365 00:19:04,530 --> 00:19:08,670 and to lay on our stomachs and he told us 366 00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:11,400 just if we did what he said that he would let us go 367 00:19:11,630 --> 00:19:13,630 and we just, you know, had to listen. 368 00:19:13,670 --> 00:19:16,030 And so, we got quiet for a minute. 369 00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:17,600 He zip tied us. 370 00:19:17,630 --> 00:19:19,670 Our hands are on our backs. 371 00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:25,730 He stepped on my leg and I said, "ouch" 372 00:19:25,770 --> 00:19:26,730 and he apologized, 373 00:19:26,770 --> 00:19:29,270 he like rubbed my thigh sympathetically. 374 00:19:29,570 --> 00:19:30,876 People that act like that, you know, 375 00:19:30,900 --> 00:19:32,770 why would you care if you stepped on my leg? 376 00:19:33,030 --> 00:19:34,470 I didn't understand. 377 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,370 He put the gun down and he pulled out a knife. 378 00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:42,670 We started to cry and she was looking at me 379 00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:44,530 and we were talking and just like, 380 00:19:44,570 --> 00:19:45,600 "We don't deserve this, 381 00:19:45,630 --> 00:19:47,070 you know, just let us go home." 382 00:20:03,670 --> 00:20:05,870 He got mad at her for talking 383 00:20:05,900 --> 00:20:07,270 and he grabbed her by her arm 384 00:20:07,300 --> 00:20:09,230 and he ripped her up from the ground, 385 00:20:09,630 --> 00:20:14,070 and as soon as she got around the corner, 386 00:20:16,430 --> 00:20:18,700 the last thing she yelled was my name 387 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,370 and then she went quiet. 388 00:20:28,370 --> 00:20:31,630 I moved my arms underneath me and unfolded them 389 00:20:31,670 --> 00:20:34,370 so they were in front and I grabbed the gun 390 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,130 and I ran as fast as I could. 391 00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:57,200 When I got into the woods I hid behind a tree 392 00:20:57,230 --> 00:20:58,100 and I checked the gun 393 00:20:58,130 --> 00:20:59,870 to see if there was anything in it. 394 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,630 It was one of the hog like tranquilizing guns 395 00:21:02,670 --> 00:21:05,700 or something like that and it was empty. 396 00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:09,830 Next thing I heard was he had his truck 397 00:21:09,870 --> 00:21:13,430 and he yelled and then he got in the truck 398 00:21:13,470 --> 00:21:15,470 and I heard the truck started moving 399 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:18,330 and I started to try to like hide farther down 400 00:21:18,370 --> 00:21:19,630 into like the woods, 401 00:21:19,670 --> 00:21:21,330 'cause I don't want to be seen. 402 00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:51,000 So, we're in the... 403 00:21:55,570 --> 00:21:57,830 the woods I had to run to. 404 00:22:01,870 --> 00:22:04,770 To the right... 405 00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:07,930 would bethe hog confinement 406 00:22:07,970 --> 00:22:10,470 I was taken to with my best friend. 407 00:22:14,570 --> 00:22:17,800 I was wearing shorts and a t-shirt 408 00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:19,470 and I did have shoes on 409 00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:22,300 but when I was running, they got stuck in the mud, 410 00:22:22,330 --> 00:22:25,370 so my shoes and my socks came off running through mud. 411 00:22:27,730 --> 00:22:31,700 There was a lot of, like, the raspberries bushes, 412 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,000 they had thorns all over them so I could feel 413 00:22:35,030 --> 00:22:37,300 the blood going down my legs. 414 00:22:39,570 --> 00:22:42,170 I could feel the blood but everything just felt numb. 415 00:22:43,570 --> 00:22:44,770 My feet were cut open, 416 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,000 I still had thorns stuck in them. 417 00:22:47,370 --> 00:22:49,670 I was tripping over everything, 418 00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:53,030 I mean, there's no stopping and, I mean, 419 00:22:53,070 --> 00:22:55,770 he was driving his truck around 420 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,100 and I could hear it and at times I could see him 421 00:22:58,130 --> 00:22:59,270 driving next to the woods, 422 00:22:59,300 --> 00:23:00,830 so I'd go further into the woods 423 00:23:00,870 --> 00:23:02,270 so he couldn't see me. 424 00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:06,630 It seemed like I was running for days. 425 00:23:06,670 --> 00:23:08,300 It just, it didn't seem to end, 426 00:23:08,330 --> 00:23:10,530 there was nothing but the same trees, 427 00:23:10,570 --> 00:23:12,730 everything looked the same. 428 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,130 And then this is the farm I ran between, 429 00:23:27,570 --> 00:23:31,270 the three red buildings, 'cause I could hear talking 430 00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:32,670 and I ran to them. 431 00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:40,600 I was talking so fast and like halfway screaming, 432 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:41,706 they couldn't understand me, 433 00:23:41,730 --> 00:23:43,930 they tried to get me to calm down first. 434 00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:46,146 I just kept telling them, you know, 435 00:23:46,170 --> 00:23:48,090 "Like I need a phone, I need to call the police." 436 00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:49,870 911 Boone County. 437 00:23:49,900 --> 00:23:51,530 What's the location of your emergency? 438 00:23:52,470 --> 00:23:53,546 Can you please help me? 439 00:23:53,570 --> 00:23:54,776 There's a... I need a... 440 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,800 What can I do? 441 00:23:57,330 --> 00:23:58,530 What's going on? 442 00:23:59,130 --> 00:24:03,430 This dude picked me and my friend up and he... 443 00:24:03,470 --> 00:24:05,670 I'm worried and I need help. 444 00:24:06,330 --> 00:24:07,770 Can you call my mom? 445 00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:11,876 Can I talk to the other person that you're with? 446 00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:13,670 - If you will? - Yeah, here. 447 00:24:13,970 --> 00:24:16,200 It's two miles north of Pilot Mound, 448 00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:17,930 as a crow flies. 449 00:24:26,130 --> 00:24:28,430 Dezi comes running around the corner, she says, 450 00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:31,600 "Help, help, I've been kidnapped." 451 00:24:32,370 --> 00:24:36,900 And she had these plastic things on her wrists. 452 00:24:37,330 --> 00:24:41,870 Her legs were scratched all up and she was crying. 453 00:24:42,300 --> 00:24:44,000 She was so scared, I think she was 454 00:24:44,030 --> 00:24:47,200 even scared of me, all humans. 455 00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:50,730 She said, "I'm so worried about my friend, 456 00:24:51,130 --> 00:24:52,330 he's gonna hurt her." 457 00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:56,030 I told my friend to go get a gun 458 00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:58,730 and go up to that hog farm and if that guy's there, 459 00:24:59,130 --> 00:25:04,130 just keep him there, don't shoot him yet. 460 00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:10,030 When Patrick's friend got back, he told us that, 461 00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:11,306 you know, there was a pile of blood 462 00:25:11,330 --> 00:25:12,870 but nobody was there 463 00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:14,170 and he couldn't find the truck, 464 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,406 he drove around for a little while 465 00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:16,700 trying to find the truck. 466 00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:21,976 We waited for the police and everything to come 467 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,400 and I couldn't stand still, I couldn't sit, 468 00:25:24,430 --> 00:25:26,900 I just, I wanted to find my friend, 469 00:25:27,230 --> 00:25:28,830 I wanted to find Kathlynn. 470 00:25:38,730 --> 00:25:39,700 Got a phone call 471 00:25:39,730 --> 00:25:42,230 from one of our sheriff's deputies. 472 00:25:42,770 --> 00:25:44,330 I went to the hog confinement 473 00:25:44,570 --> 00:25:47,030 and by talking to the property owner 474 00:25:47,070 --> 00:25:48,230 there at the farm, 475 00:25:48,270 --> 00:25:51,430 I found out that his son-in-law 476 00:25:51,470 --> 00:25:54,570 was identified as driving a red Toyota Tundra truck. 477 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,370 So, at that time 478 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,970 we identified the suspect as Michael Klunder. 479 00:26:05,630 --> 00:26:08,470 I was in the hospital and a detective 480 00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:10,800 and another police officer came in together. 481 00:26:10,830 --> 00:26:13,530 They showed me a photo and they asked 482 00:26:13,570 --> 00:26:15,700 if I recognized him and if that was the man, 483 00:26:15,730 --> 00:26:19,070 and I said, "Yeah, you know, the one that just took us." 484 00:26:19,530 --> 00:26:21,800 And they just said, "Are you sure?" 485 00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:23,746 And I said, "Yeah, there's no second guessing it, 486 00:26:23,770 --> 00:26:25,000 that's, that was him." 487 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,730 Some of the deputies 488 00:26:27,030 --> 00:26:28,770 found Michael Klunder's home address, 489 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,500 which was over in Stratford, 490 00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:33,100 about ten miles away from where we were. 491 00:26:34,530 --> 00:26:37,130 We arrived at Michael Klunder's house, 492 00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:39,530 no-one was there at the time, 493 00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:43,930 but then his wife came home and we were asking her 494 00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:45,630 "Have you heard from him?" 495 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,070 She'd received a text message, 496 00:26:48,670 --> 00:26:50,670 it went something along the lines of, 497 00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:55,470 "I'm so sorry, I love you, I'm so sorry." 498 00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:58,770 And I remember reading that and just knowing 499 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,570 that this wasn't gonna be good. 500 00:27:12,830 --> 00:27:16,000 So I came back to City Hall in Dayton 501 00:27:16,030 --> 00:27:18,730 and starting setting up a command post. 502 00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:21,230 We had Iowa State Patrol, 503 00:27:21,730 --> 00:27:24,030 Iowa Division of Criminal Investigations, 504 00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:26,200 a number of FBI Agents arrived. 505 00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:28,470 We began just working 506 00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:30,200 on trying to gather information, 507 00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:33,130 started doing pings on Mr Klunder's phone. 508 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,070 Well, the same time, 509 00:27:36,730 --> 00:27:37,976 Michael Klunder's father-in-law, 510 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,200 the owner of the farm, 511 00:27:39,670 --> 00:27:42,200 he went to, started checking his other properties, 512 00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:44,370 'cause he's got a number of different hog confinements 513 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,700 around this area, 514 00:27:46,130 --> 00:27:49,600 and we received word 515 00:27:49,630 --> 00:27:51,300 that they found Michael Klunder, 516 00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:54,470 he had hung himself inside a machine 517 00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:55,870 shed on that farm. 518 00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:05,430 Authorities found the suspected kidnapper's body 519 00:28:05,470 --> 00:28:07,500 and they say he committed suicide. 520 00:28:07,530 --> 00:28:08,976 Michael Klunder hung himself, 521 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,800 we couldn't ask him any questions. 522 00:28:11,330 --> 00:28:13,270 The pickup truck was there, 523 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:16,330 they did locate some blood on the tailgate of the truck 524 00:28:16,970 --> 00:28:19,470 but there was no sign of Kathlynn. 525 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,230 And now Kathlynn is still out there. 526 00:28:22,970 --> 00:28:25,530 Locals volunteered to scour the area 527 00:28:25,570 --> 00:28:29,430 in the search for missing teenager Kathlynn Shepard. 528 00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:33,030 Authorities released this photo of Kathlynn Shepard 529 00:28:33,070 --> 00:28:34,800 getting off a school bus 530 00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:37,730 likely minutes before she was kidnapped. 531 00:28:37,770 --> 00:28:38,806 Until we know differently 532 00:28:38,830 --> 00:28:40,546 we're gonna assume that she's alive somewhere. 533 00:28:40,570 --> 00:28:42,706 If somebody sees something don't touch it. 534 00:28:42,730 --> 00:28:44,430 Today, searchers fanned out 535 00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:47,500 to comb the dense woods along the Des Moines River 536 00:28:47,530 --> 00:28:48,900 in Boone County. 537 00:28:50,330 --> 00:28:52,870 There was an amazing search, 538 00:28:53,370 --> 00:28:55,830 just the sheer number of people and resources 539 00:28:55,870 --> 00:28:57,230 that were put forward. 540 00:28:58,170 --> 00:28:59,570 I mean, we had probably 541 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,270 a hundred law enforcement officers here every day. 542 00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:04,500 We had volunteers show up with horses, 543 00:29:04,530 --> 00:29:06,600 a large number of ATVs. 544 00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:09,770 It was the neatest thing I don't want to see again. 545 00:29:11,170 --> 00:29:12,530 They started search parties 546 00:29:12,570 --> 00:29:14,570 and I wanted to go find her and I kept asking 547 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,170 if I could go, I wanted to leave, 548 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,670 I wanted to go help, you know, 549 00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:19,830 and everybody refused to let me leave the house. 550 00:29:19,870 --> 00:29:21,076 I wasn't allowed to do anything. 551 00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:23,130 I wasn't allowed to go help search, nothing. 552 00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:34,200 Looking at cellphone pings, 553 00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:36,970 we tracked Michael Klunder's cellphone 554 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,900 over a 40-mile area of just driving around. 555 00:29:43,170 --> 00:29:45,330 I think he took Kathlynn in the truck 556 00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:47,630 and started driving around, 557 00:29:47,670 --> 00:29:49,100 trying to figure out what to do. 558 00:29:49,130 --> 00:29:51,230 Probably went into a state of panic. 559 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,330 You know anywhere 560 00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:55,200 in between Point A, Point B and Point C 561 00:29:55,730 --> 00:29:57,370 could be Kathlynn. 562 00:29:57,730 --> 00:29:59,530 It's a huge area to check, 563 00:29:59,570 --> 00:30:02,600 we're talking hundreds of square miles, 564 00:30:03,530 --> 00:30:04,776 and you just want to hold out hope 565 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,170 that there is by some miracle 566 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,170 you'd find her alive somewhere, 567 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,300 sustaining herself somehow. 568 00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:17,000 Late today, investigators recovered 569 00:30:17,030 --> 00:30:18,970 the young girls' backpacks. 570 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,270 They were found in the town of Fraser, 571 00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:23,100 in a ditch along the road. 572 00:30:23,130 --> 00:30:24,406 It appeared that they were 573 00:30:24,430 --> 00:30:25,676 just thrown out of the pickup truck, 574 00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:27,200 on a gravel road. 575 00:30:27,230 --> 00:30:28,770 It kind of confirmed to us that okay, 576 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,500 we know for sure he was down on Juniper Road, 577 00:30:31,530 --> 00:30:34,500 which turns into River Road here in Webster County. 578 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,470 Said okay, so, he's following the river 579 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,970 and he's following the river for maybe a reason. 580 00:30:40,370 --> 00:30:43,470 So, you know, our boat teams went back out and, 581 00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:46,030 you know, almost every day we had a boat team out. 582 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,000 I was assigned with others to search an area 583 00:30:52,270 --> 00:30:55,030 along the Des Moines River. 584 00:30:55,630 --> 00:30:57,900 I couldn't believe how heavily wooded it was 585 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,100 and it was brutal searching it. 586 00:31:01,930 --> 00:31:04,030 48 hours had passed, 587 00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:07,330 you want to stay optimistic. 588 00:31:09,770 --> 00:31:14,530 Once we got into two weeks, two and a half weeks, 589 00:31:15,330 --> 00:31:17,630 you know we've already checked 250 square miles 590 00:31:17,670 --> 00:31:19,030 at that point in time. 591 00:31:24,030 --> 00:31:25,470 We had every hope in the world 592 00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:27,300 of finding her alive somewhere. 593 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,500 After 18 days of searching, 594 00:31:42,530 --> 00:31:45,770 we finally know the fate of Kathlynn Shepard. 595 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,900 Her body was found by a search team 596 00:31:47,930 --> 00:31:49,970 in the Des Moines River last night. 597 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,070 The State Medical Examiner's report 598 00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:54,430 says she died of multiple sharp 599 00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:56,130 blunt force injuries. 600 00:32:06,530 --> 00:32:08,370 So Kathlynn was found 601 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,900 in the Des Moines River, 602 00:32:11,670 --> 00:32:14,070 20 miles south of the hog farm. 603 00:32:16,670 --> 00:32:19,900 I was told she was found by a fisherman 604 00:32:19,930 --> 00:32:21,500 and she was wrapped in plastic, 605 00:32:21,530 --> 00:32:23,270 and he threw her in the river. 606 00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:29,970 Kind of just broke my heart, I didn't leave my room, 607 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,270 I didn't... I didn't want to do anything anymore. 608 00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:41,270 She was stabbed 27 times, her throat was slit, 609 00:32:41,670 --> 00:32:43,400 she was punched in the head. 610 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,500 You kind of know after so long that they're not coming back, 611 00:32:51,030 --> 00:32:53,170 but when you hear it's something like that... 612 00:32:55,030 --> 00:32:57,300 I don't know how people can do that. 613 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,130 Yeah, I don't want to know. 614 00:33:12,570 --> 00:33:13,646 Kathlynn's father 615 00:33:13,670 --> 00:33:15,370 issued a statement to the media. 616 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,230 An exert from it said, 617 00:33:17,270 --> 00:33:20,000 "Today our family has lost part of its soul. 618 00:33:20,030 --> 00:33:22,000 Not just the Shepard family, 619 00:33:22,030 --> 00:33:25,300 but the families of Dayton and all of Iowa. 620 00:33:25,330 --> 00:33:28,070 An innocent, caring, fun-loving child 621 00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:31,100 was taken from this world long before her time. 622 00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:35,170 Our daughter was torn from our family and murdered." 623 00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:43,170 I talked with Kathlynn's family 624 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,800 a little bit, it was really hard. 625 00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:50,670 I felt like they'd hate me 'cause I hated myself. 626 00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:54,470 Why would you hate yourself over this? 627 00:33:54,930 --> 00:33:56,730 'Cause I couldn't do anything. 628 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,930 And even if I could have done anything, 629 00:34:00,970 --> 00:34:02,100 I didn't try. 630 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,646 It's the one thing I regret most, 631 00:34:09,670 --> 00:34:11,800 is I feel like I still should have tried. 632 00:34:16,530 --> 00:34:19,270 If Dezi would not have escaped 633 00:34:19,830 --> 00:34:22,469 I wholeheartedly believe that she would have suffered 634 00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:24,199 the same fate as Kathlynn. 635 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,199 If that girl didn't get away, 636 00:34:27,630 --> 00:34:29,590 Michael Klunder would probably still be out there, 637 00:34:30,469 --> 00:34:31,600 getting away with it. 638 00:34:32,270 --> 00:34:34,030 Dezi's my hero. 639 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,870 And I feel I've got 640 00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:38,699 a connection with her because... 641 00:34:52,969 --> 00:34:54,699 I know I just feel a connection with her 642 00:34:54,730 --> 00:34:57,530 just because she did get away 643 00:34:57,570 --> 00:34:59,800 and she was tough enough to get away. 644 00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:08,700 Immediately after the Dayton case, 645 00:35:08,730 --> 00:35:10,870 people started putting together the Dayton case 646 00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:13,870 and the Evansdale case, I mean right away, 647 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,570 'cause the crimes were so strikingly similar. 648 00:35:20,030 --> 00:35:22,930 Two Iowa towns, two pairs of girls, 649 00:35:22,970 --> 00:35:26,830 similar ages, both crimes occurred on sunny afternoons 650 00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:28,600 less than a year apart. 651 00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:29,930 Both kidnappings happened 652 00:35:29,970 --> 00:35:32,300 around a hundred miles from each other, 653 00:35:32,330 --> 00:35:35,730 less than a two-hour drive down Highway 20. 654 00:35:35,770 --> 00:35:38,900 I think everybody, all of us were like, 655 00:35:38,930 --> 00:35:40,270 "That's the guy." 656 00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:42,776 I didn't know who Michael Klunder was 657 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,400 prior to this incident. 658 00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:48,300 I had pulled up his driver's license photo 659 00:35:48,330 --> 00:35:49,900 once we'd identified him, 660 00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:52,100 and I had seen his face before. 661 00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:55,170 And it took me a little while to remember where I'd seen it; 662 00:35:56,170 --> 00:35:58,900 prior to me becoming Chief of Police, 663 00:35:58,930 --> 00:36:01,270 I worked for the Iowa Department of Corrections, 664 00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:05,630 and Michael Klunder was one of the inmates 665 00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:07,670 at one of the prisons I had worked at. 666 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,270 It was at the Newton Correctional Facility. 667 00:36:20,430 --> 00:36:24,270 Michael Klunder has a heart of darkness. 668 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,170 From the time he was a teenager 669 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,330 he's been evil. 670 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,530 At the age of 15 he was convicted of intent 671 00:36:32,570 --> 00:36:34,570 to commit sexual abuse. 672 00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:38,000 He beat up a girl in a bathroom 673 00:36:38,330 --> 00:36:40,600 to the point of he thought he'd killed her. 674 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,300 And in 1989, a judge ordered Klunder 675 00:36:44,330 --> 00:36:46,330 to receive sex offender treatment, 676 00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:48,430 while he served nearly two years in prison. 677 00:36:48,930 --> 00:36:51,600 Michael Klunder's got a violent past. 678 00:36:53,570 --> 00:36:55,170 I'm aware of two incidents. 679 00:36:55,830 --> 00:36:57,970 December 15, 1991, 680 00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:01,330 Michael Klunder was following a young woman, 681 00:37:02,430 --> 00:37:04,470 flagged her over under the pretense 682 00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:07,500 of her taillight was out. 683 00:37:07,870 --> 00:37:10,970 While she was out of the car looking at her taillight, 684 00:37:11,570 --> 00:37:13,870 he gets control of her, grabs her 685 00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:15,100 and puts her in his car, 686 00:37:15,130 --> 00:37:17,530 drives her to another location. 687 00:37:18,130 --> 00:37:20,200 Fortunately, she's able to escape. 688 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,400 Around that same time in Charles City, Iowa, 689 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,000 he abducted two toddlers from the yard of a daycare, 690 00:37:30,030 --> 00:37:31,430 put them in the trunk of his car 691 00:37:31,470 --> 00:37:33,770 and drove them to a state park. 692 00:37:35,930 --> 00:37:38,200 That ended with him putting the two toddlers 693 00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:41,030 in a dumpster and leaving them, 694 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:42,800 I'm assuming to die. 695 00:37:42,830 --> 00:37:45,200 Michael Klunder, you know, abducted 696 00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:46,770 two three-year-old girls. 697 00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:49,900 It happened back in 1991 698 00:37:49,930 --> 00:37:52,300 and it was his first double abduction. 699 00:37:59,530 --> 00:38:02,430 My name is Steve Castaneda. 700 00:38:04,930 --> 00:38:08,400 I was Michael Klunder's prison counselor. 701 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,870 Michael Klunder I would say had a small group of friends. 702 00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:18,400 He was reserved. He lifted weights a lot. 703 00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:22,230 Michael could easily be intimidating 704 00:38:22,670 --> 00:38:26,700 but also the dark side, he had an underlying 705 00:38:26,730 --> 00:38:30,300 current of anger all throughout his time 706 00:38:30,330 --> 00:38:31,830 that I dealt with him. 707 00:38:31,870 --> 00:38:34,570 And I recall saying, 708 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,130 "Mike, you put two kids in a dumpster bin?" 709 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,430 And he said, "Yeah." 710 00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:44,600 And it stuck with me for a while 711 00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:49,970 that he really was short of any empathy. 712 00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:00,946 Mike Klunder. 713 00:39:26,970 --> 00:39:28,276 When someone walks in our door, 714 00:39:28,300 --> 00:39:30,370 if they don't have a mandatory sentence, 715 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,270 which in this case did not, 716 00:39:32,770 --> 00:39:34,770 for every day they serve, 1.2 days 717 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,430 comes off the back end and eventually they meet 718 00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:39,500 and that becomes the discharge date. 719 00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:45,770 He only did 20 years in jail 720 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,000 and they released. 721 00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:48,476 He was supposed to do 40 something, 722 00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:51,900 he should have never gotten out, period. 723 00:39:54,570 --> 00:39:56,430 He got out on good behavior. 724 00:39:57,930 --> 00:39:59,700 People like that don't change. 725 00:40:06,370 --> 00:40:07,830 There's no reason 726 00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:11,700 Michael Klunder should have ever seen the light of day. 727 00:40:11,730 --> 00:40:13,430 Klunder was a sick puppy. 728 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,870 This guy is the worst of the worst in our society. 729 00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:19,130 I only feel bad about him killing himself, 730 00:40:19,170 --> 00:40:20,770 because investigators weren't able 731 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,300 to get information out of him, 732 00:40:23,330 --> 00:40:25,430 that possibly could have shed some light 733 00:40:25,470 --> 00:40:27,200 on the Evansdale case. 734 00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:31,000 Klunder, I would not be surprised 735 00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:34,200 if he participated in that abduction, 736 00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:36,930 of the two Evansdale girls. 737 00:40:40,770 --> 00:40:43,770 Since the 1970s through 2011, 738 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,730 there had only been 739 00:40:44,770 --> 00:40:47,470 15 double abductions in the US. 740 00:40:48,070 --> 00:40:51,730 The Evansdale case in 2012, made it number 16. 741 00:40:51,770 --> 00:40:55,430 Number 17 was less than a year later in Dayton. 742 00:40:55,830 --> 00:40:57,870 Now there's been three in Iowa. 743 00:40:58,230 --> 00:41:01,200 Iowa comprises less than 1% of the population, 744 00:41:01,230 --> 00:41:03,470 but accounts for three out of the 17 745 00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:05,270 double abductions in the US. 746 00:41:05,930 --> 00:41:07,000 Two of those three 747 00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:09,370 we know were perpetrated by Michael Klunder. 748 00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:10,370 Michael Klunder 749 00:41:10,530 --> 00:41:13,830 had taken two youngsters years before 750 00:41:14,930 --> 00:41:18,070 and now he'd just done it again in Dayton. 751 00:41:18,830 --> 00:41:21,000 What's the likelihood that he was involved 752 00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:23,970 with our case in Evansdale. 753 00:41:25,230 --> 00:41:27,670 I was just hoping and praying like 754 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,470 we have our guy. 755 00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:31,270 This has to be Michael Klunder. 756 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,900 I strongly believe 757 00:41:35,930 --> 00:41:38,170 that that was one of his favorite things, 758 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,700 was taking two girls at once, 759 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,200 it just seemed like a repeated pattern. 760 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,430 The parallels between the case in Dayton 761 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:55,070 and the Evansdale case are uncanny. 762 00:41:56,770 --> 00:41:58,830 Two little white girls, pretty close 763 00:41:58,870 --> 00:42:01,030 to the same age as Lyric and Elizabeth. 764 00:42:01,530 --> 00:42:03,930 Eight and ten and then 12 and 15. 765 00:42:04,370 --> 00:42:06,070 One is a larger girl 766 00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:07,900 and the other one is a smaller girl. 767 00:42:07,930 --> 00:42:10,270 We know Michael Klunder threw Kathlynn's backpack 768 00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:12,870 and Dezi's purse out of his truck. 769 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,770 In Evansdale, whoever abducted Lyric and Elizabeth, 770 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,130 threw Elizabeth's purse over a fence. 771 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,930 In both cases, the abductors got rid of the victims' bags 772 00:42:22,970 --> 00:42:24,600 while fleeing the crime scene. 773 00:42:25,330 --> 00:42:26,300 Michael Klunder 774 00:42:26,330 --> 00:42:28,670 threw one of his victims in a river. 775 00:42:28,930 --> 00:42:30,700 Lyric and Elizabeth, their bodies 776 00:42:30,730 --> 00:42:32,630 were found near a river. 777 00:42:33,370 --> 00:42:35,100 Investigators are examining 778 00:42:35,130 --> 00:42:37,900 Klunder's work schedule and credit card purchases. 779 00:42:37,930 --> 00:42:40,430 They're also looking at DNA evidence 780 00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:43,870 and comparing the killer's MO in both cases 781 00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:46,270 to determine if Klunder also murdered 782 00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:48,070 the Evansdale cousins. 783 00:42:48,730 --> 00:42:51,570 I know what happened to the cousins 784 00:42:52,070 --> 00:42:53,630 and I can't say whether 785 00:42:53,930 --> 00:42:56,830 what Michael Klunder did is or is not 786 00:42:57,300 --> 00:42:59,130 what we know happened to the cousins. 787 00:42:59,630 --> 00:43:02,570 There are things that we know 788 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,800 but I can't say what they are 789 00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:09,530 without tipping a hand that I can't tip. 790 00:43:10,330 --> 00:43:13,300 There are things that happened in Evansdale 791 00:43:13,330 --> 00:43:16,100 that only that person knows. 792 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,300 So, we worked hard doing interviews, 793 00:43:19,330 --> 00:43:21,530 did he know anybody in Black Hawk County 794 00:43:21,570 --> 00:43:22,970 or in Evansdale? 795 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,470 Did he know the victims? 796 00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:26,470 Did he know the victims' families? 797 00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:42,170 There are still no arrests 798 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,830 in the cousins' death a year later. 799 00:43:43,870 --> 00:43:45,900 DCI continues investigating 800 00:43:45,930 --> 00:43:48,500 a possible Michael Klunder connection. 801 00:43:48,530 --> 00:43:51,000 We were trying to do everything we could 802 00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:55,100 to attach Michael Klunder to our case. 803 00:43:55,470 --> 00:43:58,030 Were there ties to our community? 804 00:43:59,070 --> 00:44:01,000 Were there ties to Seven Bridges? 805 00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:04,130 When Klunder was in his teens 806 00:44:04,170 --> 00:44:06,730 he went to a youth detention center 807 00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:08,370 in Waverly, Iowa, 808 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,200 which is located in Bremer County. 809 00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:12,870 It's just miles away from where Seven Bridges is. 810 00:44:13,170 --> 00:44:16,270 Recently we had found out that at one point 811 00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:19,530 while Klunder was at Bremwood he escaped 812 00:44:20,070 --> 00:44:22,870 and when he ran he went to Seven Bridges. 813 00:44:24,770 --> 00:44:26,070 That's relevant to this case 814 00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:29,400 because that's where the girls' bodies were found. 815 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,346 Klunder's whereabouts on the day 816 00:44:31,370 --> 00:44:32,830 Lyric Cook and Elizabeth Collins 817 00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:35,630 disappeared last summer are still being investigated 818 00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:38,030 by the Black Hawk County Sheriff's Office. 819 00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:41,700 We wanted Michael Klunder to be able 820 00:44:41,730 --> 00:44:43,770 to be tied into our case. 821 00:44:44,030 --> 00:44:46,200 We wanted the answers that we'd been seeking 822 00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:50,870 for almost a year, and to know that we didn't have 823 00:44:50,900 --> 00:44:55,630 a serial killer running on the loose anymore. 824 00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:58,500 I wanted, in the worse way I wanted it to be him. 825 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,730 After the police investigated Klunder 826 00:45:08,770 --> 00:45:11,170 for about a year, 827 00:45:11,770 --> 00:45:14,400 they announced that he wasn't a suspect anymore. 828 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,830 Can you say why he's ruled out? 829 00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:32,070 Um... 830 00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:35,700 it goes to the information that we received 831 00:45:35,730 --> 00:45:37,870 and whether or not it puts him in this area 832 00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:39,370 at a particular time. 833 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,600 I guess without getting too specific on that, 834 00:45:43,630 --> 00:45:45,600 there's a lot of data that you're able to collect 835 00:45:45,630 --> 00:45:48,000 to really put a person in a certain spot, 836 00:45:48,030 --> 00:45:50,430 and with Michael Klunder it would be, 837 00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:52,830 it would be next to impossible for him, 838 00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:55,030 based on the information we collected. 839 00:45:55,370 --> 00:45:56,546 It wasn't Klunder. 840 00:45:56,570 --> 00:45:58,530 Evansdale Police say they have ruled him 841 00:45:58,570 --> 00:46:00,330 out as a suspect. 842 00:46:00,370 --> 00:46:02,730 They say for months they tracked his whereabouts 843 00:46:02,770 --> 00:46:04,030 and that he was likely at work 844 00:46:04,070 --> 00:46:06,470 during the time Cook and Collins were kidnapped. 845 00:46:08,770 --> 00:46:10,170 At the end of the day, 846 00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:14,370 not only could we not find any ties, 847 00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:20,400 but the physical timelines that we could definitively say 848 00:46:20,930 --> 00:46:24,300 he could not have gone from where we knew he was 849 00:46:24,970 --> 00:46:28,370 to Evansdale, abduct the girls, 850 00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:31,400 take them to Seven Bridges, 851 00:46:32,170 --> 00:46:37,970 commit the crime and get back in that time. 852 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,200 It's physically impossible. 853 00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:42,900 There wasn't time. 854 00:46:44,530 --> 00:46:46,470 Knowing that we still had someone out there 855 00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:48,330 who's responsible for the cousins, 856 00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:52,400 I've gotta be true to myself, I've gotta be true to Lyric, 857 00:46:52,430 --> 00:46:54,000 I've gotta be true to Elizabeth 858 00:46:54,030 --> 00:46:55,330 and their families, 859 00:46:55,770 --> 00:46:59,330 and he's not our guy. 860 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,500 I fear now going forward 861 00:47:03,530 --> 00:47:06,130 is if Klunder didn't take the girls, 862 00:47:06,170 --> 00:47:08,570 then who did and are they gonna do it again? 863 00:47:09,930 --> 00:47:10,976 They're gonna catch you. 864 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,330 You are as good as caught right now. 865 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,270 It might not be today, it might be tomorrow, 866 00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:18,700 be ready for that knock on your door. 867 00:47:22,070 --> 00:47:23,330 It's coming. 868 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,230 Two Carroll County girls 869 00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:36,270 have gone missing 870 00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:39,200 near the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi. 871 00:47:39,230 --> 00:47:40,800 There's some cellphone evidence 872 00:47:40,830 --> 00:47:43,870 where they were able to take a picture of a guy 873 00:47:43,900 --> 00:47:46,930 walking along the trail that they had encountered 874 00:47:46,970 --> 00:47:48,930 and there's audio. 875 00:47:48,970 --> 00:47:51,270 We kind of hear part of the guy's voice. 876 00:47:51,300 --> 00:47:52,770 Guys, down the hill. 877 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,500 Guys, down the hill. 878 00:47:54,530 --> 00:47:58,430 That's the killer on her cellphone footage. 879 00:47:58,970 --> 00:48:00,370 If you're watching, 880 00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:03,270 we'll find you. 66307

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