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This programme contains scenes
with violence from the start which
some viewers may find distressing

Liverpool is a city in shock.

In the past week,
it's seen violent killings,

two of those killings
in people's homes.

I've got nearly 30 years' service
in the police.

I've never seen this before.

Two murders in two days.

What's going on here?

The shooting took the life
of 28-year-old Ashley Dale.

There's no obvious reason
why she should be shot.

And they'd been together
for around six years.

He won't give us anything in
relation to who was responsible.

His behaviour suggests that
it's something he's involved in.

The hunt is on to find the killer
of Olivia Pratt-Korbel,

nine years old and killed in
the most shocking circumstances.

GUNSHOTS

There's a real determination
to kill here.

This is the man we are hunting for.

The man that murdered Olivia.

OK, Cheryl, can you tell us
a little bit about Olivia

so that people can understand
what Olivia was like?

Erm...

She was amazing.

She loved life.

She was my little shadow.

She went everywhere with me.

And she may well have only
been nine,

but she packed a lot in them
nine years.

OLIVIA: No! It's the wrong way.

OLIVIA LAUGHS

We were talking about going to get
her a new uniform for school.

But I didn't get that chance
to go and get her school uniform.

Erm...

I can't.

SOBS

NEWS REPORT: Merseyside Police say
they won't rest

until those responsible for killing
Olivia Pratt-Korbel are behind bars.

Olivia's killer is still out there,

and that's why Cheryl Korbel has
made this emotional appeal

and she's addressed her daughter's
killer directly.

You know you've done wrong,

so you need to own up,

like I've taught my kids.

You do something wrong,
you own up to it.

Good morning, everybody.

Thank you very much for your time
and turning in for us.

This is the murder investigation
in relation

to Olivia Pratt-Korbel,

whose photograph, I'm sure,
needs no introduction.

This is the person we are
working for

and why we are here this morning.

NARRATOR: Detectives have made
a breakthrough

in their hunt for the killer
of Olivia Pratt-Korbel.

CCTV examination has shown
that on the night in question,

the gunman has made his way
to the area of Princess Drive.

And we'll just show a very brief
clip of it.

What we know then is
he's contacted two men

who were by the shops.

These men make over to him.

The gunman can be seen crouching
down between two vehicles

before crossing over Princess Drive.

The males on the bikes come along
here, cross over Princess Drive,

clearly engaged with some sort
of conversation with the gunman,

and one of them returns in between
the two vehicles,

where he spends about 20 seconds
out of sight, off the bike,

and presumably on his hands
and knees.

He then re-emerges, crosses
over the road,

and cycles down Princess Drive.

We believe he's taken the guns that
were used in the murder of Olivia,

and moved them from the gunman on
the area of Princess Drive

and took them to a safe house.

These two weapons are probably
the hottest property

in terms of criminal property
in the UK at this moment in time.

This could be the single largest
influencing factor

in getting a conviction on this job.

Firearms officers are deployed
to raid the cyclist's address

and a neighbouring property
belonging to a criminal associate.

Right, so, Black Team mount up.

Mount up.

I want a D13 in kit, please.

ASAP!

SIRENS BLARE

INDISTINCT INSTRUCTIONS
OVER RADIO

30 seconds. Yes, yes.

Confirmed.

I still want the plan as normal.

Two of you to approach.

Let's go. Come on.

INDISTINCT CHATTER ON RADIO

Yes, yes, yes.

13. Wait.

ON RADIO: Door breach. Door breach.

Armed police! Open the door!

INDISTINCT SHOUTING

Nice and slow. Nice and slow.

Nice and slow. Keep walking.

Kneel. On your knees. On your knees!

On your knees! Put your hands on
your head!

ON RADIO: Flat was clear.

Yeah, roger. Thank you.

Forensics teams search
the property...

..and the cyclist is brought
in for questioning.

We know from the CCTV that he's had
a conversation with the gunman,

and we really need to understand
what that's about.

And more importantly, we need to
know who the gunman is

that he's had a conversation with.

I do need to inform you that as well
as being recorded,

the interview is being
video recorded,

and is also a live uplink
that may be being monitored.

Do you understand that?

Yeah. OK.

We are pursuing people to do
something that they've never

probably done before and assist
and talk to the police.

The individual involved has
grown up in the community.

He will understand the impact
this murder has had.

He must be tussling.

And a real difficult
dilemma for him,

whether he tells us who it was,
who he's spoken to.

Why did you do that? Because you've
taken something from the gunman.

You've taken a weapon from him.

No comment. Is that true?
Is that what you've done?

No comment.

Was that pre-arranged
that you would do that?

No comment.

Is that your bike?

No comment.

Have you borrowed it off someone?

No comment.

Are you denying that's you?

No comment.

Would you say that's you?

No comment.

Had you arranged to be there
to assist the person

who killed Olivia?

No comment.

Have you hidden the gun
that was used to kill Olivia?

No comment.

Where's that gun now?

No comment.

Are you aware Olivia,
nine-year-old, is dead?

Are you aware of that?

No comment.

So, we've been asked to show
you this short video,

which was an appeal from
Merseyside Police.

CHERYL KORBET: She was amazing.

She loved life.

She never, never stopped talking.

And that's what I miss the most.

Because I can't hear her talk.

If anyone is hiding these guns...

..they need to speak up

cos they need to be off
these streets.

No-one, no-one at all should have to
go through this.

I mean, I think it's fair to say,
you know, it's upsetting you.

OK. I'm going to ask you, how do you
feel about the death of Olivia?

No comment.

Would you want that person caught?

No comment. OK.

So, the time is now 16.34,
and the interview has concluded.

RECORDER BEEPS

Bloody hell.

I'm going to be honest,
I'm frustrated.

He sat there in silence.

I know he's entitled to his silence,
of course.

However, he sat there and
didn't answer any questions.

Really frustrating
for the investigation.

Will you be charging him?

No, he's going to be bailed.

We don't know he knew that
a murder had taken place.

We've searched his house.

Sadly, we've not recovered
any firearms.

We're hopeful that the pressure
that we're applying in the community

will encourage other people
to come forward

that do know what's gone on.

If you hear anything on your travels
or any customers

you're dealing with, just get them
to ring 101.

We know that the gunman will trust
a very small group of people,

particularly in the aftermath.

They're the people
we're appealing to.

We recognise that they will be
really scared.

They will perceive,
he's killed once,

he'll be prepared to kill again,

particularly if they're
to speak out.

We're saying to members
of the community,

this is the death of the
nine-year-old girl.

This is one case in your life
where you need to be able

to look at yourself in the mirror
and say, I've done the right thing.

Police say a young woman
who was shot dead in Liverpool

was the victim of a callous crime.

Ashley Dale was murdered
in her own home.

Police say the attack here
was a targeted shooting.

The door was forced here
and several shots were fired.

They're now appealing
for information,

and they're also asking people
to search their conscience.

They say they know sometimes
there's a wall of silence,

sometimes there's a culture of not
grassing to the police,

of not giving police information,
not being a snitch.

But police say people have got
to get beyond that

and search their consciences,

and if they have information,
they must come forward.

Detectives investigating Ashley's
murder search for a motive.

They discover messages on her phone
about a dispute

between her boyfriend, Lee, and a
local drug dealer.

Ashley, seemingly, has used
her phone

to text,

voice note,

record images that give us a
sequence of events

that potentially have led to her
death

on the 21st of August.
Right, OK.

So, this is a photo that's
come off Ashley's phone.

That's Lee, isn't it? That's Lee.

Clearly a few years ago.

This is Niall Barry.

Right, OK.

He features heavily
through the phone,

but under the nickname Branch.

And it would seem, at one point,

Branch and Lee have been
best friends.

They've worked together.

Lee and Niall were involved
in drug supply,

but there's some suggestion that
Branch has been ripping Lee off.

OK. Then Niall Barry has ended up
getting robbed.

He's automatically assumed, I think,
that Lee, being his friend,

would side with Niall Barry,
and he hasn't.

So there's this major beef
between Barry and Lee.

It's been reignited because they've
both been at the same festival,

at Glastonbury, June 2022.

We know that Ashley and Lee went.

Ashley talks to a number of friends

about the sort of reignition
of this historic feud.

"Branch is back on his high horse.

"Dunno where he's popped
back up from.

"He was in Glastonbury.

"Pulled a big knife out and said,
'Where's Lee?

"'He's getting stabbed up.'"

Rather than sending messages,
she'll exchange voice notes.

Can I listen to a couple of them?

Just to give me a flavour of what's
on. Yeah, of course.

Wow.

It's weird, that, isn't it,
listening to her?

Yeah.

But her anxieties, from this point,
just escalate and escalate

as we get closer to August.

Branch has been making threats
towards Lee,

saying that he's put money
on his head.

"I can't be arsed with it.

"I don't want to have to go
to Lee's funeral next,

"and I just have a bad,
bad feeling about everything.

"It's horrible. My heart's in
my mouth constantly."

And he consistently features
through this with Lee.

Niall Barry? Niall Barry. Yeah.

He is the primary focus...
Yeah, looks that way.

..of all of Ashley's concern. Yeah.

There we are. Niall Barry.

There's extensive amounts of
intelligence around Niall Barry.

Clearly been involved in significant
drug dealing for some time.

There's warning signals
for firearms.

Thought to be carrying a handgun,
regularly keeps it on his person.

There's a number of people
working for him.

2015, there he was associating
with Lee Harrison.

It's running with that narrative
that they used to be associates,

but there's certainly been some
fallout over drug dealing.

Lee continues with, "I don't
know who's responsible.

"I'm not in dispute with anybody."

And I just... I find...

It's so frustrating to think, you
have been her partner for years...

..this has now happened to her,

and yet you are still not
assisting or cooperating.

Why would you do that?

Is it fear? Is there someone still
coming for him?

Does he want to be seen as a grass?

Does he want to be seen
as supporting the police?

Well, that's something morally,
if he doesn't,

he's going to have to live with.

So Niall Barry is a significant
suspect in this inquiry now.

We've got to do everything that we
can to find out where he is.

NEWS REPORT: A funeral took place
today for Ashley Dale

amid calls for those responsible
to give themselves up.

I think in Liverpool we need to
unite now under one voice

and say enough is enough.

The people that we are, the city,
the community,

we don't want it overshadowed by
these shocking stories.

Enough is enough.

I've got so many people around me,

but without her, it's lonely.

It really is, it's lonely.

We spoke every single day
on the phone.

She wasn't only my daughter,
Ashley was my best friend.

It's tough, it really is.

It was about 3.45 in the morning.

We were woke by somebody
knocking on the front door.

I said to Bobby, "It's the police.
I'm scared."

But not for one minute did I think,
like, you know,

what it was going to be.

I think it was the male police
officer said, "She's been shot."

We'll never come to terms with it.

I'll never accept it.

I couldn't believe that.

It's such a shock, I couldn't think.

That doesn't make sense.

Why? Why would you have been shot?

And the first thing I said to them
is, "Where's her boyfriend?"

I think they said they couldn't
locate him at that moment in time.

He made contact with me
after it happened and asked,

could he come and see me?

And my first question was,
"Have you been to the police?"

And he said, "No."

He can't think of anything -
that was his words that he used -

why this had happened, and I had to
go and see him.

So I visited him.

You know, Lee was there,
didn't even get dressed,

sat in his boxer shorts.
Around midday, wasn't it? Yeah.

Didn't even have the decency
to put any clothes on.

Yeah, he maintained his innocence.

He doesn't know anything about it.

He can't think of anything,
why it's happened.

He just shut down with us.

He was just... What the police had
said to us he'd been like with them,

he was being much the same
with you and me,

cos we went together.

And the disrespect that that brings,

because he knows full well
who it is.

Why do you think he's not helping?

I honestly don't know.

I mean, this is not our world.

You know, I've never been involved
in anything

where I've needed to be involved
with police

and, you know, to grass or whatever.

But you do hear it so much,
this no grass culture.

But this is serious. It doesn't get
any more serious than this now.

Your girlfriend has been shot dead

in the home that you
shared together,

but you can't speak.

It... It's not grassing.

It's telling the truth and doing
the right thing.

There's no comeback for Ashley.

There's no, "Well, it'll be OK with
time and time's a healer."

No, it's definitive. Ashley's gone.

Now, if you loved that person,
you tell the truth.

These people are out there.

You know, we could be walking
around with these people.

You know, it sounds bizarre,
but you could be standing next

to them in the supermarket
and passing them in the street.

My once rational brain is completely
and utterly irrational now.

If a car drives past the house,
I'm on edge.

I'm constantly thinking,
"Are they going to knock?

"Is something going to happen
to us?"

"Or is someone going to burst
through our door?"

I'm scared. I'm scared.

Ashley was an innocent person,
she was at home alone,

and someone has burst
into her house.

Why would they not come
and do something to us?

Police locate and arrest
Niall Barry,

the suspect in the
Ashley Dale investigation.

Firearms officers find him
in a hotel outside Liverpool

with his passport and £10,000
in cash.

Niall Barry. N-I-A-L-L.

Right, Niall, I'm going to remove
this handcuff first, OK?

Yeah, I understand them.

He's going in there.

Oh, is he? Yeah.

It's the prepared statement
of Niall Barry.

"This statement has been prepared
on my behalf, at my request.

"I, Niall Barry, wish to say
as follows.

"I've been arrested for the offence
of murder

"and possession of a firearm.

"I deny both offences.

"I did not kill Ashley Dale.

"At the time of the murder,

"I was at an address
of flats in Pilch Lane.

"I don't know the number.

"I was with three friends,
Sean, Michael and Ian.

"I was at the address in Pilch Lane
all weekend

"and didn't leave until Sunday.

"You will be able to confirm my
movements by my mobile phone,

"an iPhone by myself."

All right. OK.

When you say "myself", do you think
you might have been using

your phone around that time?

What time was that fight?
What was the fight?

Was it not just after 11 o'clock
when it started?

What was the UFC fight?

Was that, like, a world...like a...?

Heavyweight title fight.

Did you watch that live?

OK, so you're putting yourself
in that flat... Yeah. ..at...

It would have been around
the material time

when Ashley was shot,
is that what you mean?

OK. And you were using your phone,
you were watching the fight,

and then after you watched the UFC.

What do you know about the murder
of Ashley Dale?

No comment.

Were you in any way involved
with that murder?

No comment.

Ashley Dale, we know that she is
Lee Harrison's girlfriend.

We believe you and him
were mates up until recently.

No comment.

They lived at Leinster Road.

Did you know they lived there?

No comment.

Can you tell me what kind
of association you had with Lee?

No comment.

Was it at one stage
you were friends?

No comment.

Are you a member of any organised
crime group?

No comment.

The Barry organised crime group?

No comment.

Are you involved in that? Are you
the head of that? No comment.

OK.

At the time of the murder,
you said you were in that flat.

Do you know whereabouts on
Pilch Lane that flat is?

No comment.

Whose flat is it?

Right.

Cool, isn't he? Quite confident.

But he's given...he's given an
implausible alibi there,

to stay in a flat for three days.

He's covering the times, isn't he?

He's trying to cover the times,
isn't he?

You know, was he in the flat?

If he was, who was he with?

We just need to look at identifying
those individuals, as well.

We also need to establish if he has
controlled or organised it.

Even though he might not
have pulled the trigger,

if you've planned, arranged it,
facilitated it,

you can be just as culpable.

The killing of Olivia Pratt-Korbel
has horrified people

in Liverpool and beyond.

A little girl adored by her family.

This "you can't grass"
culture, thing.

There's a line. There's a line
that's been crossed.

You know, if you've been living
in these areas

that are run by these gangs,
you're terrified.

And I think a lot of the time

it's not so much trust in the
police that is the issue,

it is often you're scared
for yourself.

Police can't be outside your house
protecting you

every minute of every day,
and we know that.

The days pass so, so quick.

Once half two comes, we go and
see Liv,

up in Debbie Bennett's,
where she's resting.

And we call it the baby run
because of the time.

We were so used to... Well, I was so
used to doing the school run.

So now it's the baby run.

Yeah.

We go every day, don't we? Yeah.

Spend some time there.

It's just having that connection
that she's still with us.

Yeah, because it was that much
of a shock in losing her.

Erm...

And I've been doing the
baby run. It's...

..like I've still got...

Control of something,
isn't it? Yeah.

OK?

This is a video a friend
put together.

Whose Side Are You On?

And it's, you know, it's about doing
the right thing, not keeping quiet.

There's a stigma around being a
grass or a snitch,

but people need to speak up.

Somebody out there, whether it's one
person or more people,

they know who's responsible
for this.

This individual needs to be caught

so he can never, ever harm
another family.

They need to be taken off
the streets.

That's where...

Silence, it can't...

You've got to open your mouth.

Yeah. It's the only way
it's going to stop.

NEWS REPORT: Olivia Pratt-Korbel's
coffin was brought past

her primary school to the church
next door,

yards from where the
little girl used to play.

Her community came together
to say goodbye.

CHERYL KORBEL: Liv touched so many
people's hearts

and was loved and adored
by everyone.

She will never be forgotten.

So us and I will never
say goodbye.

But what I will say is goodnight,

love you, see you in the morning.

Where are we going?

So, we're on our way now
to meet somebody

who's contacted the police
via a third party,

saying that they've got
important information

that they want to share
about Olivia's murder.

So we're just on the way
now to meet them.

A witness, or do you not
even know that?

They haven't disclosed what it is,

so we actually don't know
what they've got to say.

They didn't want us to go
to the house,

and they've wanted to
meet us somewhere

away from any police station.

At the minute, they're that scared.

Well, they're petrified, really.

Do you believe him?

Yeah.

We should phone. We should phone
the boss.

Mm-hm.

Did you get the reg of his car?

Yeah.

Hi, Sarge, it's Steph.

Are you OK to speak
a little minute?

Yeah, yeah.

He was absolutely petrified.

He was crying right the way
through the whole thing.

In short, on the night
of the incident,

he was out, and he said he got a
call from his girlfriend,

who he didn't want to give us the
name of,

saying that the offender had gone
into his girlfriend's house

while he wasn't there and had made
some disclosures...

..in short, that he was the shooter.

He said his life's in danger

if he's even seen talking
to the police.

He said that he was in the house
for a short time, the shooter,

and asked to drop him off
in Aspes Road. Right.

I think he wanted us to go and find
all the evidence and get the CCTV.

And I asked him, like, you know,
what if we don't get the evidence?

And, you know, would you be willing
to come to court?

And to be fair, he said he'd...

He said he's petrified and his
life would be in danger

if he did that.

A significant
development overnight.

Well, we've had a man come forward,

clearly with some information
that would assist us.

That's a really, really important
line of inquiry for us

and a breakthrough that we were
hoping for.

But it's very easy to believe
everything that we hear.

For that reason, we need
to check facts,

and that's what we're
currently doing.

We've been given an account,
and we're checking CCTV

to see if we can corroborate exactly
what we've been told.

I think I've got his car.

I've got some CCTV which
corroborates what he's saying.

What's he saying's happened
here, then?

Here, now? So, what he says is that
the gunman goes back to his address,

makes disclosures about this,
this shooting,

and then he's asked to
drop him off.

He says he drops him off
at Aspes Road.

So, 22.46 here.

This is our city watch camera.

Although it's hard to see
at the minute,

that is what I think is his car.

He turns right onto Princess. Yeah.

So this is the church now.
This is St Luke's church.

So you can see, that's a better
image of the vehicle.

This one.

This one's a little bit harder
to see,

but obviously you can see the
vehicle there has just come in.

See the headlights?

And you're saying that at that point
when he's on Aspes,

he's dropping our gunman off? Yeah.

You know, he's disclosed to him
that he's committed an offence,

and then he's given him
a lift afterwards.

He's assisted an offender.

Detectives receive intelligence

that the man they believe assisted
the gunman has left Liverpool.

An arrest team is sent to intercept
him and his girlfriend.

Yes, yes, we're on.

Sit in there, love.

WOMAN HYPERVENTILATES

OK?

HYPERVENTILATING

Watch your step.

The couple are taken to two
separate custody suites

to be interviewed.

Before you start, this is
a controlled environment.

So I really need you to stand still
in here.

WOMAN: I just want to hide
so no-one can see I'm here,

that's the main thing. I just don't
want no-one to know I'm here.

Assisting our offender.

Listen, I need to talk
to someone ASAP.

I need to talk to somebody ASAP.

OK, good morning,
everybody. Welcome.

There's been a lot
happening overnight.

Now, as soon as she got
into custody,

she asked to see the police
straight away,

said she wanted to speak to us.

She chose not to have legal advice,
despite being repeatedly warned,

given the significant nature.

Just give the conference an overview
in relation to what was said.

Yeah, we look her into the
interview room,

first thing she said was, "I'll tell
you what's happened,

"but, basically, I want protection.

"I'm scared. I'm terrified.

"I'm scared for my life,
my partner's life.

"I'm not going to answer
any questions,

"I'm going to be answering
'No comment'

"unless you can offer me
that protection."

She genuinely... She appeared
genuinely, didn't she?

Very emotional. Yeah. And fearful
for her life.

She's basically intimated, "I'm not
speaking to anybody

"or telling anyone what's happened

"unless a boss comes here and tells
me I'm going to be protected."

So I've said, "We're going to have
to go back to our bosses

"and tell, you know, tell
them what you can offer us."

And she said, "Well, I can tell
you who's committed this murder."

And her words were,
"What more do you want me to say?

"I know who fucking done it."

We know she's really, really fearful
and really frightened.

We do empathise.

We understand that they're
in a difficult position.

They're starting to question
the moral obligations,

which is exactly what we want,

and that's what we've appealed
for from day one.

We're not in a position to offer
anybody any deals or anything

like that until we know
the full facts,

and we'll interview her again later.

We really need to nail down exactly
what's happened

in the full sequence of events.

We still don't know who
the gunman is.

So this could be a really key
day for the investigation.

This interview is being digitally
audio recorded,

and I'll also remind you,
you're still under caution.

Detectives interview the couple
arrested on suspicion

of assisting the gunman on the night
of Olivia's murder.

I'm now going to caution
you again, OK?

So, you do not have to say anything,

but it may harm your defence if you
do not mention, when questioned,

something which you later rely on
in court,

and anything you do say
may be given in evidence.

Do you understand what the
caution means?

You do?
WOMAN: Yeah.

OK, then.

I've got a nine-year-old girl,
Olivia Pratt-Korbel,

was murdered in her own house.

Just go through, in time order,
what you did exactly on Monday.

MAN: I was in... I was in my
girlfriend's house.

My mate rang me and said,
"We're out of electricity."

So, I've gone round,
got the lecky key,

took the dog to the off-licence,
which is on Finch Lane...

..got lecky, and seen one of my
mates there.

Then I got a phone call.

Said, "Someone's at ours."

You've been arrested for assisting
an offender.

What can you tell me about that?

So I'm in bed, fast asleep,

and I can just feel myself
getting nudged.

And I thought it was my fella
waking me up.

And the next minute, this person,
he's just gone,

"Don't be telling anyone.
No-one needs to know I'm here."

And I'm half asleep cos
I'm like, "What are you on about?"

Like, "What the fuck's going on?"

And he's just gone,
"They've been chasing me,"

or, "They're trying to get me."
It was something like that.

And I'm thinking,
is this a fucking dream?

Like, you're in my room.

So I've got my dressing gown on,
I followed him downstairs,

and that's obviously when I've made
the phone call to my fella

and been like, "Come home."

So I've gone round there
to my girlfriend's.

Go on, then. What's happened
when you've gone round?

I've gone round and
I've been speaking

to that person who was there.

He was telling me he was getting
chased by someone.

Did he say anything else?

Something about someone getting
got shot, or they got shot,

something like that.

He was only in there five
or ten minutes,

then I dropped him off.

And day after, when we found
out, it's gone in the Echo,

with the little girl.

Now, as soon as I seen Kingsheath,
I knew that's where he'd been.

That's where it all came together.

That's where I... It all came
together for me,

and I sobbed my heart out.

And we went, "We can't do this.
We've got to go.

"He's going to come and get us."

Not going to lie, we was too scared
to stay in the house.

Not regarding yous, regarding him.

We've wanted this to happen,
not going to lie.

We've wanted yous to do this

because we need to fucking, you
know, say what we've got to say.

But it's just...

I don't know what's going on.

Are you willing to tell us
who that person was?

I'd rather not say in an interview.

Think what... You know, ultimately,
the question of the identity

of this person, if you ever talk,

is that, ultimately, we're
dealing with probably

one of the most tragic murders.

I know. I know.

I'm...I'm scared.

Really scared. Really scared.

I mean, yous know what can
happen to me.

I'm terrified of just what he can
do to me.

Has he got a reputation
for killing people?

I don't know.

He's got a reputation for something.

That's what I'm trying to ask
you, mate.

Yeah. Doing serious things, yeah.

So, basically, you're terrified
he's going to shoot you.

Yeah.

Listen, I'm petrified because he's
forced entry into my house.

He's put this on me.

He's come in to my fucking house
and ruined my fucking life.

Like, I'm pissed off bad.

Why the fuck would he come
to my house?

It's really done me head in.

Like, I'm losing the plot
because I'm going over it.

Why has he done this to me?

Do I have to say his name?

If you're happy to, we will ask
for a name.

Tommy.

So you've said "Tommy" there.

Are you willing to give us
any other name?

Tommy Cashman.

We need people to stand up.

People have got to tell us
who this person is.

It's Tommy Cashman.

Tommy Cashman?

Yeah.

OK, good evening, everyone.

This is a armed operation,

authority granted by Gold from
Merseyside Police.

Cashman has been declared wanted
by the SAO

for the murder of
Olivia Pratt-Korbel,

as well as the attempted murder
of Cheryl Korbel and Joseph Nee.

Cashman is also linked heavily
through intelligence

and previous offending to
organised crime.

I have reason to suppose
Thomas Cashman is in possession of,

or has immediate access to a firearm
or other potentially lethal weapon,

and officers are allowed to use
force to protect life and property,

protect themselves or others
based on the threat assessment.

WHISPERING

Armed police!

Armed police! Come to the
front door!

Bring nothing with you!

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