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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:49,150 --> 00:00:52,151 36-year-old army veteran and grad student, 2 00:00:52,153 --> 00:00:55,821 Maribel Ramos, is treating her niece, Giselle. 3 00:00:55,823 --> 00:00:58,323 - Ta-da! - It's so pretty. 4 00:00:58,325 --> 00:01:01,427 My aunt Maribel was like a big sister to me. 5 00:01:01,429 --> 00:01:03,929 She taught me how to play softball. 6 00:01:03,931 --> 00:01:08,801 We would read books together, we would have sleepovers 7 00:01:08,803 --> 00:01:11,470 and I would do face masks to her. 8 00:01:11,472 --> 00:01:13,572 She was really funny. 9 00:01:13,574 --> 00:01:15,340 You look like a model. 10 00:01:16,342 --> 00:01:20,045 With her, I would kind of clown around a bit more. 11 00:01:21,414 --> 00:01:22,414 Let's go get it. 12 00:01:22,416 --> 00:01:25,451 Whenever we needed her, she was a call away 13 00:01:25,453 --> 00:01:28,420 or maybe like ten minutes away from our house. 14 00:01:31,958 --> 00:01:34,493 Maribel and I were extremely close. 15 00:01:34,495 --> 00:01:36,995 You know, I was her little sister, 16 00:01:37,163 --> 00:01:38,430 Mom was at work, 17 00:01:38,432 --> 00:01:41,033 so Maribel had to take me with her everywhere. 18 00:01:41,035 --> 00:01:43,469 She definitely was goal-driven 19 00:01:43,471 --> 00:01:47,306 and she had her map of what she wanted to do with her life. 20 00:01:48,141 --> 00:01:49,241 As a young girl, 21 00:01:49,243 --> 00:01:52,744 Maribel wanted to be actually a police officer. 22 00:01:52,746 --> 00:01:57,483 At some point she decided that the Military would be a good route for her. 23 00:01:58,318 --> 00:02:00,619 She was in the Military for eight years. 24 00:02:00,621 --> 00:02:04,256 With two deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan... 25 00:02:05,058 --> 00:02:07,960 she decided to come back home, 26 00:02:07,962 --> 00:02:10,395 finish up her school, graduate college 27 00:02:10,397 --> 00:02:13,799 and then focus on this other part of life 28 00:02:13,801 --> 00:02:17,136 which hopefully included a husband and then children. 29 00:02:18,938 --> 00:02:20,205 In a few weeks, 30 00:02:20,207 --> 00:02:23,108 Maribel is due to receive a degree in Criminal Justice 31 00:02:23,110 --> 00:02:25,110 from Cal State University. 32 00:02:26,212 --> 00:02:30,182 Graduating for Maribel was not only the end of, 33 00:02:30,184 --> 00:02:34,820 I would say, this chapter of school and work. 34 00:02:34,822 --> 00:02:39,024 This was the moment where she was gonna start just really enjoying life. 35 00:02:41,494 --> 00:02:45,063 I mean, everything looked amazing, a beautiful future. 36 00:03:15,929 --> 00:03:19,431 KC and Maribel were roommates for about two years 37 00:03:19,433 --> 00:03:23,335 and he was also Giselle's math tutor. 38 00:03:24,872 --> 00:03:27,272 KC texted me saying, you know, 39 00:03:27,274 --> 00:03:29,942 "Your sister, Maribel, didn't come home." 40 00:03:30,143 --> 00:03:32,144 I just told KC that 41 00:03:32,146 --> 00:03:35,113 Maribel had a lot of things going on 42 00:03:35,115 --> 00:03:37,883 and she's a grown woman. 43 00:03:37,885 --> 00:03:42,521 So I didn't worry, you know, about her not coming home. 44 00:03:45,158 --> 00:03:49,361 But Maribel did not show up to her baseball game 45 00:03:49,363 --> 00:03:53,932 and my cousin said, "Can you please drive to Maribel's house?" 46 00:03:54,801 --> 00:03:56,902 We are at her house now. 47 00:03:56,904 --> 00:04:00,272 Her car is outside. Parked. 48 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,442 The light in her room is on. 49 00:04:03,810 --> 00:04:05,744 But no one's home. 50 00:04:05,746 --> 00:04:10,515 That's when I... I just got this horrible feeling. 51 00:04:12,151 --> 00:04:14,886 Lucy's cousin calls Orange PD 52 00:04:14,888 --> 00:04:18,023 to report that Maribel is still missing. 53 00:04:19,593 --> 00:04:23,195 Patrol officers were dispatched to Maribel's apartment. 54 00:04:26,232 --> 00:04:30,302 They knocked on the door. They talked to some neighbors. 55 00:04:30,304 --> 00:04:32,337 They didn't see anything suspicious. 56 00:04:32,339 --> 00:04:36,074 No broken windows, no forced entry into the door. 57 00:04:36,076 --> 00:04:38,443 The roommate's nowhere to be found. 58 00:04:42,982 --> 00:04:46,585 The officers made a choice to force entry into the apartment. 59 00:04:47,287 --> 00:04:49,988 Police. Anyone here? 60 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:52,624 It's a typical two-bedroom, small apartment. 61 00:04:52,626 --> 00:04:57,329 Nothing looked disheveled or really out of place at all. 62 00:04:59,899 --> 00:05:03,802 Maribel's sister, Lucy, arrives at the apartment. 63 00:05:03,804 --> 00:05:06,938 I walked straight into her room 64 00:05:06,940 --> 00:05:11,043 and Maribel's bed was undone, there were sheets on top of it 65 00:05:11,045 --> 00:05:14,179 and her pillow was like didn't have the pillow case. 66 00:05:14,181 --> 00:05:18,984 It was like, her bed not being done was such a big deal to me. 67 00:05:18,986 --> 00:05:20,619 That's not Maribel. 68 00:05:22,789 --> 00:05:27,459 I didn't see anything that indicated that Maribel took a trip. 69 00:05:27,461 --> 00:05:31,430 I was like what? You know, something was wrong. 70 00:05:31,432 --> 00:05:33,065 Lucy indicates to the officers 71 00:05:33,067 --> 00:05:35,534 that her wallet, her cell phone, 72 00:05:35,536 --> 00:05:37,736 all these items were typically with Maribel 73 00:05:37,738 --> 00:05:39,404 and they weren't in the apartment. 74 00:05:39,406 --> 00:05:41,406 So that kind of raised our suspicions. 75 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,315 A Patrol Supervisor makes a decision 76 00:05:50,317 --> 00:05:53,585 to call homicide. 77 00:05:54,287 --> 00:05:56,321 It was after hours, I was home. 78 00:05:56,323 --> 00:05:59,891 I got a call from the office to come in. 79 00:05:59,893 --> 00:06:02,961 We had a suspicious missing person's case. 80 00:06:04,030 --> 00:06:07,265 The fact that Maribel was 36 years old, 81 00:06:07,267 --> 00:06:10,902 and the fact that she had some military training, 82 00:06:10,904 --> 00:06:13,972 she was the type of person that was very punctual, 83 00:06:13,974 --> 00:06:17,309 she just disappeared with no trace. 84 00:06:19,312 --> 00:06:22,948 That made everybody feel like she was in trouble. 85 00:06:23,916 --> 00:06:26,184 Lucy has indicated her car was still there 86 00:06:26,186 --> 00:06:29,087 and parked in her normal parking spot. 87 00:06:29,089 --> 00:06:32,023 For her wallet or her cell phone 88 00:06:32,025 --> 00:06:34,626 all to be missing and her vehicle still there, 89 00:06:34,628 --> 00:06:37,396 that was definitely strange and out-of-character. 90 00:06:39,732 --> 00:06:41,299 What's going on? 91 00:06:41,301 --> 00:06:44,970 Her roommate, KC Joy, shows up unannounced. 92 00:06:44,972 --> 00:06:47,072 When was the last time you saw Maribel? 93 00:06:47,074 --> 00:06:48,940 Thursday, about 9:00. 94 00:06:48,942 --> 00:06:53,011 He indicated that he'd left around 9 PM and gone on a drive. 95 00:06:53,013 --> 00:06:54,279 Later on, around 10:00, 96 00:06:54,281 --> 00:06:59,251 he responds back to the apartment and Maribel's not there. 97 00:06:59,253 --> 00:07:02,220 If there's anything you know, please let us know. 98 00:07:04,090 --> 00:07:05,624 Thank you. 99 00:07:06,192 --> 00:07:08,059 So, it's very important, 100 00:07:08,061 --> 00:07:12,030 who was the last person that saw the victim or the missing person? 101 00:07:12,032 --> 00:07:14,766 Because that sets the timeline. 102 00:07:14,768 --> 00:07:19,204 This is the last day Maribel was last seen alive. 103 00:07:19,206 --> 00:07:22,274 And then they can work from that point forward. 104 00:07:26,814 --> 00:07:31,716 Because Maribel lived in a large apartment community... 105 00:07:31,718 --> 00:07:35,153 they typically have surveillance footage of the grounds. 106 00:07:35,155 --> 00:07:38,824 That was one of the first things we looked at when we were on-scene. 107 00:07:38,826 --> 00:07:40,559 We try to find cameras 108 00:07:40,561 --> 00:07:45,063 to help us either see her leaving or coming to the apartment. 109 00:07:45,065 --> 00:07:48,066 The apartment manager gives detectives a copy 110 00:07:48,068 --> 00:07:49,568 of the surveillance footage. 111 00:07:55,908 --> 00:08:00,612 There was one camera that covered the gate to the complex. 112 00:08:00,614 --> 00:08:04,716 You would hope that we'd be able to see either Maribel's car 113 00:08:04,718 --> 00:08:07,219 or KC's car going in and out of there. 114 00:08:07,221 --> 00:08:08,920 But they didn't need to go into the complex 115 00:08:08,922 --> 00:08:12,457 because they could park right outside their front door on the street. 116 00:08:14,694 --> 00:08:19,331 So, the camera videos that we were examining were not helpful. 117 00:08:20,833 --> 00:08:25,036 We were able to locate one that was above the manager's office 118 00:08:25,038 --> 00:08:29,207 and that camera focuses on anybody that's walking up to the door. 119 00:08:29,742 --> 00:08:31,576 Try Thursday around 8 PM. 120 00:08:32,845 --> 00:08:35,447 We were hoping that, you know, we'd find her 121 00:08:35,449 --> 00:08:39,084 exactly where she was or it leads us in a certain direction. 122 00:08:39,086 --> 00:08:41,419 At this point, this was all we had. 123 00:08:57,904 --> 00:08:59,304 Punch in. 124 00:09:02,975 --> 00:09:04,209 Play it again. 125 00:09:08,247 --> 00:09:09,948 I think that's her. 126 00:09:09,950 --> 00:09:14,653 Residents would leave their checks or their rent, 127 00:09:14,655 --> 00:09:18,156 they'd put it through a slot in the manager's office. 128 00:09:18,158 --> 00:09:19,691 When we first see Maribel, 129 00:09:19,693 --> 00:09:23,228 she appears to be in kind of casual pajamas, almost. 130 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:27,666 She dropped off an envelope in the slot and then walked off. 131 00:09:27,668 --> 00:09:30,368 She is not scared. 132 00:09:30,370 --> 00:09:33,305 She doesn't look like she's looking over her shoulder. 133 00:09:33,307 --> 00:09:35,607 She's not hurrying. 134 00:09:35,609 --> 00:09:38,710 She looks like she just put on some sandals to walk outside 135 00:09:38,712 --> 00:09:42,380 and put the mail in and just go to bed. 136 00:09:42,382 --> 00:09:46,618 It shows her alive the day before she went missing 137 00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:50,589 on May 2nd about 8:30 PM. 138 00:09:53,593 --> 00:09:55,327 After a sleepless night, 139 00:09:55,329 --> 00:09:59,230 Lucy turns to social media to help find Maribel. 140 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:02,500 I posted a picture of my sister, 141 00:10:02,502 --> 00:10:06,438 and I asked friends to contact me 142 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,175 if they've talked to her, seen her. 143 00:10:10,177 --> 00:10:13,044 You know, share... share the information. 144 00:10:14,180 --> 00:10:17,949 I was extremely upset. I was so mad. 145 00:10:17,951 --> 00:10:20,085 On many levels, you know, 146 00:10:20,087 --> 00:10:23,488 because I don't know where my sister is. 147 00:10:24,023 --> 00:10:25,991 I did cry a lot. 148 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,194 But nothing mattered. 149 00:10:29,196 --> 00:10:33,331 You know, so it was just I had to just keep going 150 00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:35,967 and get things done. 151 00:10:39,973 --> 00:10:42,407 Any time you're working a missing person's case, 152 00:10:42,409 --> 00:10:45,644 one of the main things to kind of consider is victimology. 153 00:10:45,646 --> 00:10:47,078 We want to know about the victim, 154 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,649 we want to know what her life was like, 155 00:10:50,651 --> 00:10:52,384 who she spoke with. 156 00:10:52,386 --> 00:10:55,954 What kind of boyfriends, dating habits. 157 00:10:55,956 --> 00:10:58,923 We pulled initial cell phone data. 158 00:10:58,925 --> 00:11:04,295 It showed that Maribel's cell phone was either off or inoperable. 159 00:11:04,297 --> 00:11:07,899 Most people take their cell phones with them everywhere. 160 00:11:07,901 --> 00:11:09,834 Now, if she was abducted, 161 00:11:09,836 --> 00:11:11,936 or someone had taken her, 162 00:11:11,938 --> 00:11:14,239 she may not have had time to take her cell phone, 163 00:11:14,241 --> 00:11:18,109 but we knew that her cell phone wasn't at the apartment. 164 00:11:18,111 --> 00:11:23,014 So, the fact that it wasn't pinging was very suspicious. 165 00:11:24,950 --> 00:11:26,818 - Shaun. - Hm? 166 00:11:26,820 --> 00:11:28,086 Come have a look at this. 167 00:11:38,998 --> 00:11:42,000 Paul Lopez was a boyfriend 168 00:11:42,002 --> 00:11:45,270 or was dating Maribel Ramos. 169 00:11:45,272 --> 00:11:46,337 It is very important 170 00:11:46,339 --> 00:11:49,841 to talk to the last person that talked with Maribel. 171 00:11:49,843 --> 00:11:54,012 And Paul was the last person to talk to her on the phone. 172 00:11:55,848 --> 00:11:58,983 Paul is asked to come to the PD for questioning. 173 00:12:30,483 --> 00:12:31,983 He was very cavalier 174 00:12:32,051 --> 00:12:36,588 and just, "Hey, we were very early on in the stage of our relationship... 175 00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:40,158 we were free to kind of date on our own." 176 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,294 Paul confirms that he last spoke to Maribel by phone 177 00:12:43,296 --> 00:12:45,630 on the Thursday she went missing. 178 00:13:03,249 --> 00:13:04,949 Just because he's very cooperative 179 00:13:04,951 --> 00:13:07,519 doesn't mean he couldn't have hurt Maribel. 180 00:13:36,849 --> 00:13:38,716 The truck he drove was GPS. 181 00:13:38,718 --> 00:13:40,585 We could find out exactly where he went, 182 00:13:40,587 --> 00:13:43,221 almost like on a minute-by-minute basis. 183 00:13:45,524 --> 00:13:49,961 The conversation turns to Maribel's roommate, KC Joy. 184 00:14:16,922 --> 00:14:20,491 Paul tells detectives that when he spoke to Maribel on Thursday, 185 00:14:20,493 --> 00:14:22,527 she was arguing with KC. 186 00:14:46,852 --> 00:14:49,954 He asked Maribel if he needs to come over, 187 00:14:49,956 --> 00:14:52,891 she says, "No, I'm fine, I'm just gonna go to sleep." 188 00:14:52,893 --> 00:14:56,094 And that's the last conversation we know of 189 00:14:56,096 --> 00:14:58,229 between Maribel and Paul. 190 00:14:58,931 --> 00:15:01,032 This led us in the direction of KC 191 00:15:01,034 --> 00:15:05,136 because there was some contention between KC Joy and Maribel Ramos 192 00:15:05,138 --> 00:15:07,138 because of him not paying rent. 193 00:15:07,940 --> 00:15:11,242 KC Joy had come here from Korea 194 00:15:11,244 --> 00:15:13,311 and when he was like a teenager, 195 00:15:13,313 --> 00:15:15,013 he went to school in Tennessee 196 00:15:15,015 --> 00:15:18,249 and was a chemist of some sort. 197 00:15:18,251 --> 00:15:21,853 There was nothing to indicate that he had any criminal record. 198 00:15:21,855 --> 00:15:24,722 A scan of KC's social media accounts 199 00:15:24,724 --> 00:15:28,159 reveals a close relationship with Maribel. 200 00:15:28,161 --> 00:15:32,830 KC Joy took Maribel on an Alaskan cruise. 201 00:15:32,832 --> 00:15:36,968 There were photographs of that in his phone and on his computer. 202 00:15:36,970 --> 00:15:39,504 One day when KC called me, 203 00:15:39,506 --> 00:15:42,874 he started telling me that, "Oh, I'm in love with your sister," 204 00:15:42,876 --> 00:15:47,345 and you know, "I would really like to be that man she has a family with." 205 00:15:47,347 --> 00:15:50,348 So, I'm like, "Oh dear," 206 00:15:50,350 --> 00:15:52,717 because, you know, he's a great guy 207 00:15:52,719 --> 00:15:54,886 but I know that KC 208 00:15:54,888 --> 00:15:57,422 is not the type of man that my sister's looking for. 209 00:15:57,424 --> 00:16:00,892 At some point, he started acting different. 210 00:16:00,894 --> 00:16:02,393 He did lose his job. 211 00:16:02,395 --> 00:16:05,396 He didn't give her money for the rent. 212 00:16:05,398 --> 00:16:08,499 So, that's where the problem started. 213 00:16:11,904 --> 00:16:14,973 Hey, Joey, come take a look at this. 214 00:16:14,975 --> 00:16:18,609 Officers had done a background check on Maribel's apartment 215 00:16:18,611 --> 00:16:19,610 Listen to this. 216 00:16:19,612 --> 00:16:22,246 It shows that approximately a week prior, 217 00:16:22,248 --> 00:16:24,315 there was a 911 call from there. 218 00:17:21,774 --> 00:17:23,274 She was combat-trained, 219 00:17:23,276 --> 00:17:26,010 so for her to be fearful of this guy... 220 00:17:27,279 --> 00:17:28,713 was a real red flag. 221 00:18:02,181 --> 00:18:04,982 The fact that Maribel was in the Military, 222 00:18:04,984 --> 00:18:08,886 and possibly suffered some mental health issues because of it, 223 00:18:08,888 --> 00:18:10,922 is an important fact. 224 00:18:10,924 --> 00:18:13,858 Our veterans nowadays go through a lot overseas 225 00:18:13,860 --> 00:18:16,661 and bring some of that back 226 00:18:16,663 --> 00:18:19,197 and have trouble dealing with everyday life. 227 00:18:19,199 --> 00:18:20,965 It certainly paints a picture 228 00:18:20,967 --> 00:18:25,169 that things could have gotten pretty ugly. 229 00:18:26,872 --> 00:18:30,475 Investigators immediately call in KC for questioning. 230 00:18:44,890 --> 00:18:46,924 He's a very friendly man. 231 00:18:46,926 --> 00:18:48,426 He loves to talk. 232 00:18:49,294 --> 00:18:52,463 But then, when you hear the phone call, 233 00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:55,933 you gotta wonder, how does this guy 234 00:18:55,935 --> 00:18:57,602 make her feel so scared? 235 00:19:19,291 --> 00:19:20,958 He cares about her. 236 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,960 So, when things started going bad, 237 00:19:22,962 --> 00:19:24,629 it really upset him. 238 00:20:26,024 --> 00:20:29,126 He says, yeah, they were having issues with the rent, 239 00:20:29,128 --> 00:20:32,663 because he lost his job and couldn't pay the rent. 240 00:20:50,983 --> 00:20:52,283 He makes a statement that, 241 00:20:52,285 --> 00:20:55,820 maybe we should be looking at Paul a little closer. 242 00:20:55,822 --> 00:20:58,556 Because, you know, Paul had threatened him. 243 00:21:15,941 --> 00:21:18,276 KC Joy had indicated that he had gone on a drive 244 00:21:18,278 --> 00:21:20,344 to get out of the situation to kind of cool off. 245 00:21:20,346 --> 00:21:23,814 That is very difficult to corroborate 246 00:21:23,816 --> 00:21:26,917 because it wasn't like he stopped at a McDonald's 247 00:21:26,919 --> 00:21:31,155 or got gas to corroborate that he left or where he went. 248 00:21:32,224 --> 00:21:36,160 He's wearing a very tight, black, short-sleeved shirt 249 00:21:36,162 --> 00:21:38,462 and I could see these scratches 250 00:21:38,464 --> 00:21:40,331 and they're obviously fresh. 251 00:21:53,779 --> 00:21:55,946 He says that the ducks, 252 00:21:55,948 --> 00:21:59,016 they get this fishing line wrapped around them 253 00:21:59,018 --> 00:22:02,053 and so he feels like he needs to get rid of all that 254 00:22:02,055 --> 00:22:04,955 and when he does that, he says there's thorns in those bushes 255 00:22:04,957 --> 00:22:07,958 and so, that's how he got these marks. 256 00:22:09,861 --> 00:22:12,763 We're looking for signs of a struggle. 257 00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:16,567 I wasn't sure what kind of foliage they have there at the park, 258 00:22:16,569 --> 00:22:19,503 and I needed him to show it to me. 259 00:22:19,505 --> 00:22:23,908 KC meets investigators at Eisenhower Park. 260 00:22:23,910 --> 00:22:27,178 One of the officers is wearing a covert wire. 261 00:22:34,052 --> 00:22:36,220 So, when we got to the park, 262 00:22:36,222 --> 00:22:40,024 one of the first things he said, he points to this duck, 263 00:22:40,026 --> 00:22:43,160 and sure enough, its back foot is tied up in a fishing line 264 00:22:43,162 --> 00:22:45,663 and I'm like, "Oh my God, it's true!" 265 00:22:53,939 --> 00:22:59,210 So it was like, "Wow," those thorns could make those marks. 266 00:22:59,212 --> 00:23:01,812 You absolutely could lose your balance and fall into them 267 00:23:01,814 --> 00:23:06,083 and you would come up with some pretty vicious scratches. 268 00:23:06,085 --> 00:23:09,854 Detectives return their attention to Maribel's boyfriend, 269 00:23:09,856 --> 00:23:11,288 Paul Lopez. 270 00:23:12,758 --> 00:23:14,158 As a homicide detective, 271 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,660 it's very important to be open-minded. 272 00:23:17,963 --> 00:23:20,164 You have to follow every lead. 273 00:23:20,166 --> 00:23:23,234 Paul was the last person to talk to her on the phone 274 00:23:23,236 --> 00:23:27,204 and then Maribel just disappeared. 275 00:23:27,206 --> 00:23:29,907 This is Detective Ramirez from Orange PD. 276 00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:32,176 I need some information on one of your employees. 277 00:23:32,178 --> 00:23:35,880 When we followed up on Paul's alibi, 278 00:23:35,882 --> 00:23:37,648 we were able to prove 279 00:23:37,650 --> 00:23:39,750 that he was an employee of the gas company, 280 00:23:39,752 --> 00:23:42,820 he was working at that time. 281 00:23:42,822 --> 00:23:46,190 We were able to identify the truck that he'd used that day 282 00:23:46,192 --> 00:23:48,659 and those trucks have GPS on them, 283 00:23:48,661 --> 00:23:50,861 and find out exactly where he went 284 00:23:50,863 --> 00:23:53,063 almost like on a minute-by-minute basis. 285 00:23:53,065 --> 00:23:55,232 And he was nowhere near the city of Orange 286 00:23:55,234 --> 00:23:57,802 or near Maribel at the time. 287 00:23:57,804 --> 00:24:00,304 At this point, he was not a suspect. 288 00:24:00,306 --> 00:24:05,109 As days went by, it was getting more frustrating 289 00:24:05,111 --> 00:24:08,446 because we just weren't coming up with something solid. 290 00:24:08,448 --> 00:24:11,215 You know, there was no smoking gun. 291 00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:13,651 The more time that went by, 292 00:24:13,653 --> 00:24:17,221 the less likely we were looking for a missing person, 293 00:24:17,223 --> 00:24:21,225 and the more likely we were looking into a death investigation. 294 00:24:23,728 --> 00:24:28,399 Detectives conduct a forensic search of Maribel's apartment. 295 00:24:28,401 --> 00:24:31,235 KC allowed our crime scene people to come in 296 00:24:31,237 --> 00:24:35,139 and they used all this high-tech stuff 297 00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:38,943 to try and see stuff that we can't see with the naked eye. 298 00:24:38,945 --> 00:24:41,946 They take DNA, get fingerprints, 299 00:24:41,948 --> 00:24:44,048 photographs, everything, 300 00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:47,384 he was 100% volunteering 301 00:24:47,386 --> 00:24:49,019 to help the investigation 302 00:24:49,021 --> 00:24:52,423 and we weren't finding anything. 303 00:24:52,425 --> 00:24:55,826 He had a car at the time that was rented 304 00:24:55,828 --> 00:24:58,662 through a local rental company. 305 00:24:58,664 --> 00:25:00,331 And we had searched it, 306 00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:02,266 we had got a cadaver dog in there 307 00:25:02,268 --> 00:25:05,302 and unfortunately, there was no information 308 00:25:05,304 --> 00:25:07,438 that we were able to gather from there, 309 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,507 so that was another dead end. 310 00:25:12,043 --> 00:25:15,346 In the closet, they notice a pajama top 311 00:25:15,348 --> 00:25:17,314 with a blood smear on it. 312 00:25:19,752 --> 00:25:21,151 And they also notice 313 00:25:21,153 --> 00:25:23,988 the pajama bottoms are consistent 314 00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:29,360 with the pajama bottoms that she was wearing when she dropped of her check. 315 00:25:29,362 --> 00:25:33,063 That could be her blood combined with somebody else's blood. 316 00:25:38,770 --> 00:25:40,070 Forensics results come back 317 00:25:40,072 --> 00:25:42,907 on the bloodstains on Maribel's pajamas. 318 00:25:42,909 --> 00:25:46,944 That blood came back to Maribel and Maribel only. 319 00:25:46,946 --> 00:25:49,346 The fact that there was no one else's blood on her pajamas 320 00:25:49,348 --> 00:25:52,783 was also an important fact as well. 321 00:25:52,785 --> 00:25:54,285 She could have cut herself. 322 00:25:54,287 --> 00:25:56,186 They're not sure where that blood came from. 323 00:25:56,188 --> 00:25:58,289 Everybody had high hopes. 324 00:25:58,291 --> 00:26:01,025 They were hoping it would kind of break open this case 325 00:26:01,027 --> 00:26:03,961 and unfortunately, when it came back to Maribel Ramos 326 00:26:03,963 --> 00:26:06,564 and Maribel Ramos alone, 327 00:26:06,566 --> 00:26:11,835 another kind of disappointing moment in the case, if you will. 328 00:26:11,837 --> 00:26:14,605 No matter who you ask, the response is the same... 329 00:26:14,607 --> 00:26:17,942 The local news pick up the story. 330 00:26:17,944 --> 00:26:20,244 Roommate of a missing Cal State Fullerton student 331 00:26:20,246 --> 00:26:22,947 is now speaking out about her disappearance. 332 00:26:22,949 --> 00:26:26,050 Maribel Ramos has been missing since last Thursday. 333 00:26:26,052 --> 00:26:27,418 She's the only family I have. 334 00:26:27,420 --> 00:26:29,954 She's my best friend and I want her to come back, that's all. 335 00:26:29,956 --> 00:26:32,790 KC would always tell them that 336 00:26:32,792 --> 00:26:35,826 he loves her, you know, he's trying to find her himself. 337 00:26:35,828 --> 00:26:38,862 He's talking to any reporter that'll talk to him. 338 00:26:38,864 --> 00:26:40,264 I'm volunteering, they want a DNA sample, 339 00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:42,032 they took pictures of my body, 340 00:26:42,034 --> 00:26:45,069 they already searched the house without a search warrant 341 00:26:45,136 --> 00:26:47,338 and I gave them permission to do it, 342 00:26:47,340 --> 00:26:48,906 go ahead, go for it. 343 00:26:48,908 --> 00:26:52,076 He has this contentious relationship with Maribel at the time. 344 00:26:52,078 --> 00:26:56,280 Nothing to prove that he did something bad to her, 345 00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:58,916 so right now we were kind of... kind of at a stalemate. 346 00:27:05,023 --> 00:27:09,126 Even though there's no evidence on KC... 347 00:27:09,128 --> 00:27:12,096 you just couldn't help but keep... continue to look at him. 348 00:27:12,098 --> 00:27:13,797 And for that reason, 349 00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:16,800 he was under 24-hour surveillance. 350 00:27:16,802 --> 00:27:18,802 We were hoping that he would slip up, 351 00:27:18,804 --> 00:27:21,438 that he would take us somewhere that would be noteworthy. 352 00:27:23,875 --> 00:27:27,311 The fact that he had given us his phone and laptop 353 00:27:27,313 --> 00:27:29,813 made him have to go to the library 354 00:27:29,815 --> 00:27:31,615 to be able to go on to the Internet. 355 00:27:33,018 --> 00:27:35,085 To see what KC is doing, 356 00:27:35,087 --> 00:27:38,956 detectives pull footage from the library surveillance cameras. 357 00:27:43,228 --> 00:27:45,062 We see him walk in casually. 358 00:27:45,064 --> 00:27:46,997 He's wearing a backpack. 359 00:27:46,999 --> 00:27:50,668 Doesn't seem to be suspicious of anything. 360 00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:55,172 He then goes to the desk to check out a computer. 361 00:27:57,175 --> 00:27:59,209 It's important to note what he's doing, where he's looking. 362 00:27:59,211 --> 00:28:01,879 Is he trying to hide evidence? 363 00:28:01,881 --> 00:28:04,181 Is he, you know, switching bank accounts? 364 00:28:04,183 --> 00:28:06,850 He actually walks to the back of the library 365 00:28:06,852 --> 00:28:10,387 at a desk where he positions himself 366 00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:14,625 in a way that he would know if somebody were behind him 367 00:28:14,627 --> 00:28:16,627 observing what he's looking at. 368 00:28:16,629 --> 00:28:18,195 We got any cameras at the back? 369 00:28:18,197 --> 00:28:21,932 The library doesn't have a camera that we're able to zoom in 370 00:28:21,934 --> 00:28:25,669 and see what he's doing or which computer he's on specifically. 371 00:28:33,078 --> 00:28:36,180 Two hours later, KC leaves. 372 00:28:37,415 --> 00:28:40,451 Detectives attempt to check his search history. 373 00:28:41,386 --> 00:28:44,588 After each person uses the computer, 374 00:28:44,590 --> 00:28:47,925 it's turned back in to the librarian 375 00:28:47,927 --> 00:28:52,262 and the software is applied and it wipes out everything that was on that computer 376 00:28:52,264 --> 00:28:54,832 and every search that that person has done. 377 00:28:54,834 --> 00:28:57,234 Okay, thank you. 378 00:28:57,236 --> 00:29:00,337 We were coming up empty-handed over and over and over again. 379 00:29:02,540 --> 00:29:04,808 Maribel's family hold a vigil 380 00:29:04,810 --> 00:29:08,145 to keep the search for her alive. 381 00:29:08,147 --> 00:29:10,447 We really need everyone's help, please. 382 00:29:10,449 --> 00:29:12,249 We need to find Maribel. 383 00:29:12,251 --> 00:29:16,019 There were a lot of people that didn't know her personally 384 00:29:16,021 --> 00:29:19,957 but they were just trying to be there for us and my family 385 00:29:19,959 --> 00:29:24,862 and do anything they could to help us find her. 386 00:29:24,864 --> 00:29:27,498 She fought for us, our family, our country. 387 00:29:29,368 --> 00:29:30,934 Everybody was... 388 00:29:31,803 --> 00:29:34,371 like, just together, very united. 389 00:29:34,373 --> 00:29:36,673 Even a lot of strangers. 390 00:29:36,675 --> 00:29:39,276 My cousin at some point said, 391 00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:42,446 you know, "What's her favorite hike?" I told him Peter's Canyon. 392 00:29:43,381 --> 00:29:44,982 And the word got out 393 00:29:44,984 --> 00:29:49,219 that we were going to do an awareness walk at Peter's Canyon. 394 00:29:50,989 --> 00:29:54,358 At Orange PD, a call from KC's car rental company 395 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,426 provides a fresh lead. 396 00:29:58,129 --> 00:30:00,731 We learned through the rental car company 397 00:30:00,733 --> 00:30:03,634 that he had just swapped a car from a previous car. 398 00:30:03,636 --> 00:30:06,270 So, any time you turn in a rental car 399 00:30:06,272 --> 00:30:09,306 and then get another one assigned to you right away, 400 00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:10,841 it's a little suspicious. 401 00:30:10,843 --> 00:30:13,310 Was there something he was trying to hide? 402 00:30:13,312 --> 00:30:16,446 We were able to go back to the rental car company, 403 00:30:16,448 --> 00:30:19,249 we were able to find the car that he had. 404 00:30:19,251 --> 00:30:23,153 We also had a cadaver dog search the car 405 00:30:23,155 --> 00:30:26,824 and he did alert to the back area of the car. 406 00:30:26,826 --> 00:30:29,993 It's still not great physical evidence, 407 00:30:29,995 --> 00:30:31,862 but it's a big moment for us 408 00:30:31,864 --> 00:30:35,399 because it tells us that we are going down the right road. 409 00:30:36,467 --> 00:30:38,068 So, it was very important 410 00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:41,638 to keep 24-hour surveillance on KC 411 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,043 being the person of interest number one. 412 00:30:46,045 --> 00:30:47,978 But KC ends up calling me 413 00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:51,215 and he says, "Hey, Joey, can you tell the guys to quit following me?" 414 00:30:51,217 --> 00:30:53,884 I immediately called the guys and said, 415 00:30:53,886 --> 00:30:58,055 "Hey, we gotta back off a little. He burned us." 416 00:30:59,757 --> 00:31:02,960 With KC continuing to visit the public library, 417 00:31:02,962 --> 00:31:05,128 detectives come up with a plan. 418 00:31:07,432 --> 00:31:10,100 So, one of the guys says, "Hey, 419 00:31:10,102 --> 00:31:13,770 we can monitor his computer 420 00:31:13,772 --> 00:31:15,973 from a whole other building remotely." 421 00:31:15,975 --> 00:31:18,942 He just needed to receive the right computer 422 00:31:18,944 --> 00:31:20,277 that we're monitoring. 423 00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:23,380 So, library staff was brought on board 424 00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:26,049 that, "Hey, if this man comes in, 425 00:31:26,051 --> 00:31:27,051 here's his computer." 426 00:31:33,324 --> 00:31:35,893 Sure enough, he came in, 427 00:31:35,895 --> 00:31:37,494 checked out the computer. 428 00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:43,166 We could watch exactly what he was accessing, 429 00:31:43,168 --> 00:31:44,835 each key stroke, 430 00:31:44,837 --> 00:31:48,338 and we actually recorded it and watched it live. 431 00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:50,240 He's filling out job applications, 432 00:31:50,242 --> 00:31:52,209 he's on some social media sites, 433 00:31:52,211 --> 00:31:54,645 I think he's on Facebook posting some stuff. 434 00:31:54,647 --> 00:31:58,181 There was a Maribel Ramos Facebook page at the time. 435 00:31:58,183 --> 00:32:00,017 Nothing really stood out. 436 00:32:00,985 --> 00:32:03,954 KC writes in a search bar, 437 00:32:03,956 --> 00:32:07,024 "How long does a body take to decay?" 438 00:32:07,959 --> 00:32:09,526 That's important, 439 00:32:09,861 --> 00:32:13,030 but could it be that he's, you know, looking to see if she was left somewhere? 440 00:32:13,032 --> 00:32:16,300 You know, what state her body would be in? 441 00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:18,402 He ends up seeing on Facebook 442 00:32:18,404 --> 00:32:21,638 that the family was having an awareness walk 443 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,807 at Peter's Canyon Park. 444 00:32:23,809 --> 00:32:27,945 And he's kind of like pausing and thinking 445 00:32:27,947 --> 00:32:31,949 and I have to assume he was thinking, you know, "Should I or shouldn't I do this?" 446 00:32:32,350 --> 00:32:34,618 Well, he chose to do it. 447 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:37,321 He gets that address to Peter's Canyon, 448 00:32:37,323 --> 00:32:41,692 places the address into a Google Maps search bar, 449 00:32:41,694 --> 00:32:43,327 zooms in on it. 450 00:32:44,495 --> 00:32:47,998 He looks at where they were gonna meet to do this awareness walk. 451 00:32:49,133 --> 00:32:50,834 Then he backed out, 452 00:32:50,836 --> 00:32:54,071 and he navigated eight miles into Modjeska Canyon 453 00:32:54,073 --> 00:32:56,974 and he zooms in to this big tree. 454 00:33:00,045 --> 00:33:03,080 And he gets as close as he can with the software. 455 00:33:04,315 --> 00:33:06,016 And then he goes to his history 456 00:33:06,018 --> 00:33:08,385 and deletes the search history. 457 00:33:08,387 --> 00:33:11,388 And so, the guys monitoring it 458 00:33:11,390 --> 00:33:13,824 are like, "Did he just do that, oh my God!" 459 00:33:18,864 --> 00:33:21,898 This is way off in the middle of nowhere. 460 00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:25,202 No houses or trails anywhere around here. 461 00:33:25,204 --> 00:33:28,939 So it was kind of an odd place, we didn't know what to expect. 462 00:33:28,941 --> 00:33:33,043 When you get there and there's barbed wire fence on this like large berm 463 00:33:33,045 --> 00:33:37,180 next to this tree which is kind of the center of where he zoomed in at, 464 00:33:37,182 --> 00:33:41,885 in order to get through the fence we had to kind of tuck through the barbed wire. 465 00:33:41,887 --> 00:33:45,989 While we were out here kind of walking in the brush, 466 00:33:45,991 --> 00:33:49,860 there absolutely was a smell of... of death. 467 00:33:49,862 --> 00:33:52,429 I don't know how else to describe it. 468 00:33:54,098 --> 00:33:56,233 We kind of looked over and saw... 469 00:33:57,435 --> 00:33:58,935 kind of a shallow gravesite 470 00:33:58,937 --> 00:34:03,607 and what appeared to be a body underneath some rocks. 471 00:34:11,149 --> 00:34:14,317 Whether that was Maribel's body, we didn't know at this point. 472 00:34:14,319 --> 00:34:18,155 She had a tattoo that you can vaguely make out 473 00:34:18,157 --> 00:34:20,891 so that coupled with everything else, 474 00:34:20,893 --> 00:34:23,960 I had a very strong suspicion that it was her at the time. 475 00:34:28,634 --> 00:34:31,635 We brought KC Joy in to really hit him hard 476 00:34:31,637 --> 00:34:33,036 with some strong questioning 477 00:34:33,038 --> 00:34:36,039 to hopefully listen to his side of the story, 478 00:34:36,041 --> 00:34:40,043 get some information as to how this came about. 479 00:34:47,652 --> 00:34:49,352 KC was very confident 480 00:34:49,354 --> 00:34:53,190 that, you know, he was smarter than us. 481 00:35:20,751 --> 00:35:23,854 When somebody continues to lie 482 00:35:23,856 --> 00:35:25,255 and kind of point us in the direction 483 00:35:25,257 --> 00:35:27,324 of, "I didn't have anything to do with this," 484 00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:28,625 it's frustrating. 485 00:35:42,140 --> 00:35:46,042 It didn't feel like I had to tell him that we'd found the body. 486 00:35:46,044 --> 00:35:50,847 And pretty much gave him just a last chance 487 00:35:50,849 --> 00:35:53,450 to put the truth down. 488 00:36:18,042 --> 00:36:21,011 He got up, he walked out the door, 489 00:36:21,013 --> 00:36:25,415 we let him and there were some patrolmen waiting outside for him 490 00:36:25,417 --> 00:36:27,384 and they took him into custody. 491 00:36:36,061 --> 00:36:39,896 Dental records confirm that the body found in the canyon 492 00:36:39,898 --> 00:36:42,065 is Maribel Ramos. 493 00:36:43,568 --> 00:36:47,003 KC Joy is charged with her murder. 494 00:36:48,339 --> 00:36:51,208 Based on the decomp and the weather and the animal activity, 495 00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:53,910 we couldn't find a cause of death. 496 00:36:53,912 --> 00:36:56,713 It seemed most probable 497 00:36:56,715 --> 00:36:59,583 that she was suffocated. 498 00:37:00,651 --> 00:37:03,553 That a pillow was probably put over her head. 499 00:37:05,156 --> 00:37:06,856 It's bitter-sweet 500 00:37:06,858 --> 00:37:08,625 you know, because you always hope, 501 00:37:08,627 --> 00:37:12,229 someway somehow she shows up. 502 00:37:13,164 --> 00:37:16,132 Channel 5 was delivering the news 503 00:37:16,134 --> 00:37:19,169 that they found the corpse. 504 00:37:19,171 --> 00:37:22,205 I didn't cry, I just sat there. 505 00:37:23,608 --> 00:37:24,941 And... 506 00:37:26,877 --> 00:37:29,179 I just like, knew it was her. 507 00:37:29,181 --> 00:37:31,414 I just think I was just... 508 00:37:32,116 --> 00:37:34,184 just kind of numb. 509 00:37:34,186 --> 00:37:36,786 It just didn't make sense to me 510 00:37:36,788 --> 00:37:38,955 that this is what happened to her 511 00:37:38,957 --> 00:37:42,926 or whoever had done it would do that 512 00:37:42,928 --> 00:37:46,196 when she was about to do so much for herself. 513 00:37:46,198 --> 00:37:48,265 So it was just very heartbreaking. 514 00:37:48,267 --> 00:37:50,467 I was very close to her 515 00:37:50,469 --> 00:37:54,104 so, me going through that, it was very hard. 516 00:37:54,106 --> 00:37:56,640 And especially at the age that I was at. 517 00:37:58,976 --> 00:38:02,345 Over a year later in July 2014, 518 00:38:02,347 --> 00:38:05,181 Maribel's case goes to trial. 519 00:38:05,183 --> 00:38:08,885 The prosecution put forward their version of events. 520 00:38:08,887 --> 00:38:11,454 Maribel had harmless intentions 521 00:38:11,456 --> 00:38:13,023 spending time with KC 522 00:38:13,025 --> 00:38:16,326 and just do some things that friends do together. 523 00:38:16,328 --> 00:38:19,362 He took these gestures as a little more 524 00:38:19,364 --> 00:38:22,799 and kept building on a relationship 525 00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:24,634 that he wanted to happen. 526 00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:27,304 He was maybe rejected by Maribel. 527 00:38:27,306 --> 00:38:29,139 He recently lost his job, 528 00:38:29,141 --> 00:38:31,608 he was refusing to leave the apartment. 529 00:38:32,643 --> 00:38:36,079 Paul Lopez on the phone told KC Joy, 530 00:38:36,081 --> 00:38:39,349 "Look, if you don't get out, I'll get you out." 531 00:38:40,851 --> 00:38:44,220 I believe he... as soon as he hung up with Paul, 532 00:38:44,222 --> 00:38:47,223 they probably had some sort of argument again. 533 00:38:47,225 --> 00:38:51,394 When you see that video, she might be a little bit, you know, perturbed 534 00:38:51,396 --> 00:38:55,799 but she'd already told Paul that she was going to bed 535 00:38:55,801 --> 00:38:57,467 that she was going to be fine. 536 00:39:03,474 --> 00:39:05,208 I believe she went to bed. 537 00:39:07,712 --> 00:39:09,446 He came in and... 538 00:39:09,448 --> 00:39:12,248 a pillow was probably put over her head. 539 00:39:14,251 --> 00:39:16,252 And she suffocated. 540 00:39:18,055 --> 00:39:19,322 I think if she was awake, 541 00:39:19,324 --> 00:39:21,124 she would've been able to defend herself 542 00:39:21,126 --> 00:39:24,227 and there would've been a lot more in the room 543 00:39:24,229 --> 00:39:28,164 as far as evidence goes of a struggle. 544 00:39:31,802 --> 00:39:35,705 KC has to carry the body to the car 545 00:39:35,707 --> 00:39:38,007 and then to that remote location. 546 00:39:38,976 --> 00:39:42,011 And then he has to get through the barbed wire fence. 547 00:39:42,013 --> 00:39:44,314 That's when he makes all these cuts on his arms 548 00:39:44,316 --> 00:39:47,250 they were consistent with barbed wire. 549 00:39:51,689 --> 00:39:55,425 On the day that KC walked into the library, 550 00:39:55,427 --> 00:39:58,194 learns about the awareness walk out at Peter's Canyon, 551 00:39:58,196 --> 00:40:00,130 puts in into Google Maps, 552 00:40:00,132 --> 00:40:04,100 sees that there's no way they're gonna walk and find the body, 553 00:40:04,102 --> 00:40:07,871 but he just showed us where he put her. 554 00:40:07,873 --> 00:40:11,040 He did a virtual drive-by of his crime scene. 555 00:40:13,944 --> 00:40:16,379 Surveillance from computers 556 00:40:16,381 --> 00:40:19,082 is always helpful for law enforcement. 557 00:40:19,784 --> 00:40:21,451 The fact that he thinks 558 00:40:21,453 --> 00:40:24,687 he's doing something completely in private, 559 00:40:24,689 --> 00:40:26,289 led to his demise. 560 00:40:27,358 --> 00:40:30,593 A jury finds Kwang Choi Joy guilty 561 00:40:30,595 --> 00:40:32,195 of second-degree murder. 562 00:40:32,197 --> 00:40:35,932 Ramos' family trying to hold back tears in the courtroom 563 00:40:35,934 --> 00:40:40,236 before the judge sentenced Joy to 15 years to life in prison. 564 00:40:40,238 --> 00:40:44,340 When they found KC guilty, 565 00:40:44,342 --> 00:40:47,410 I was really happy, of course 566 00:40:47,412 --> 00:40:51,181 because I knew in my heart 567 00:40:51,183 --> 00:40:52,282 that it was him. 568 00:40:52,284 --> 00:40:55,118 There was no other way 569 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,788 that someone else could've done this. 570 00:40:58,790 --> 00:41:00,857 He maintained he was innocent to the bitter end, 571 00:41:00,859 --> 00:41:02,225 he said he was not guilty 572 00:41:02,227 --> 00:41:06,329 and to this day, maintains that he's not good for this crime. 573 00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:16,072 The fact that he led us to her body 574 00:41:16,074 --> 00:41:18,575 and still didn't... 575 00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:21,311 take any responsibility 576 00:41:21,313 --> 00:41:24,314 for Maribel's disappearance just made me believe 577 00:41:24,316 --> 00:41:28,051 what a sociopath he really is. 578 00:41:28,053 --> 00:41:30,186 It kind of made no sense 579 00:41:30,188 --> 00:41:33,790 because he was just so passionate 580 00:41:33,792 --> 00:41:35,058 about my aunt 581 00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:37,894 and being her best friend. 582 00:41:37,896 --> 00:41:40,864 I mean, he was an honest person then, 583 00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:45,368 so I was just thinking, like "Why can't you be honest now?" 584 00:41:47,304 --> 00:41:51,207 Maribel did complete her Bachelor's in Criminal Justice 585 00:41:51,209 --> 00:41:54,310 but she wasn't there to graduate. 586 00:41:55,145 --> 00:42:00,083 I was the one that received her degree. 587 00:42:00,085 --> 00:42:02,385 I felt honored, but at the same time, 588 00:42:02,387 --> 00:42:04,387 I was kind of upset 589 00:42:04,389 --> 00:42:07,290 that it was robbed from my aunt Maribel. 590 00:42:08,259 --> 00:42:10,793 I've lost, you know, 591 00:42:10,795 --> 00:42:14,063 a big sister, a best friend... 592 00:42:14,065 --> 00:42:16,165 you know, another role model, 593 00:42:16,167 --> 00:42:18,501 another mother figure in my life. 594 00:42:20,104 --> 00:42:24,274 I just want people to know 595 00:42:24,276 --> 00:42:26,576 that she was a beautiful 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