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36-year-old
army veteran and grad student,
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Maribel Ramos, is treating
her niece, Giselle.
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- Ta-da!
- It's so pretty.
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My aunt Maribel
was like a big sister to me.
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She taught me
how to play softball.
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We would read books together,
we would have sleepovers
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and I would do
face masks to her.
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She was really funny.
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You look like a model.
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With her, I would kind of
clown around a bit more.
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Let's go get it.
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Whenever we needed her,
she was a call away
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or maybe like ten minutes
away from our house.
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Maribel and I were
extremely close.
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You know,
I was her little sister,
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Mom was at work,
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so Maribel had to take me
with her everywhere.
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She definitely was goal-driven
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and she had her map of what
she wanted to do with her life.
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As a young girl,
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Maribel wanted to be
actually a police officer.
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At some point she decided that the
Military would be a good route for her.
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She was in the Military
for eight years.
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With two deployments
to Iraq and Afghanistan...
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she decided to come back home,
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finish up her school,
graduate college
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and then focus
on this other part of life
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which hopefully included
a husband and then children.
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In a few weeks,
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Maribel is due to receive
a degree in Criminal Justice
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from Cal State University.
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Graduating for Maribel
was not only the end of,
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I would say, this chapter
of school and work.
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This was the moment where she
was gonna start just really enjoying life.
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I mean, everything looked
amazing, a beautiful future.
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KC and Maribel were roommates
for about two years
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and he was also Giselle's
math tutor.
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KC texted me saying, you know,
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"Your sister, Maribel,
didn't come home."
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I just told KC that
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Maribel had a lot of things
going on
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and she's a grown woman.
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So I didn't worry, you know,
about her not coming home.
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But Maribel did not show up
to her baseball game
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and my cousin said, "Can you
please drive to Maribel's house?"
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We are at her house now.
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Her car is outside. Parked.
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The light in her room is on.
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But no one's home.
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That's when I... I just got
this horrible feeling.
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Lucy's cousin calls Orange PD
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to report that Maribel
is still missing.
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Patrol officers were
dispatched to Maribel's apartment.
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They knocked on the door.
They talked to some neighbors.
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They didn't see
anything suspicious.
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No broken windows,
no forced entry into the door.
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The roommate's nowhere
to be found.
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The officers made a choice to
force entry into the apartment.
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Police. Anyone here?
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It's a typical two-bedroom,
small apartment.
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Nothing looked disheveled
or really out of place at all.
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Maribel's sister,
Lucy, arrives at the apartment.
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I walked straight into her room
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and Maribel's bed was undone,
there were sheets on top of it
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and her pillow was like
didn't have the pillow case.
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It was like, her bed not being
done was such a big deal to me.
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That's not Maribel.
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I didn't see anything that
indicated that Maribel took a trip.
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I was like what?
You know, something was wrong.
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Lucy indicates to the officers
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that her wallet, her cell phone,
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all these items
were typically with Maribel
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and they weren't
in the apartment.
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So that kind of raised
our suspicions.
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A Patrol Supervisor
makes a decision
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to call homicide.
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It was after hours, I was home.
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I got a call from the office
to come in.
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We had a suspicious
missing person's case.
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The fact that
Maribel was 36 years old,
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and the fact that she had
some military training,
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she was the type of person
that was very punctual,
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she just disappeared
with no trace.
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That made everybody feel like
she was in trouble.
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Lucy has indicated
her car was still there
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and parked in her normal
parking spot.
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For her wallet or her cell phone
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all to be missing
and her vehicle still there,
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that was definitely strange
and out-of-character.
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What's going on?
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Her roommate, KC Joy,
shows up unannounced.
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When was the last time
you saw Maribel?
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Thursday, about 9:00.
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He indicated that he'd
left around 9 PM and gone on a drive.
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Later on, around 10:00,
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he responds back to the
apartment and Maribel's not there.
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If there's anything you know,
please let us know.
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Thank you.
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So, it's very important,
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who was the last person that saw
the victim or the missing person?
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Because that sets the timeline.
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This is the last day
Maribel was last seen alive.
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And then they can work
from that point forward.
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Because Maribel lived in a
large apartment community...
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they typically have surveillance
footage of the grounds.
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That was one of the first things we
looked at when we were on-scene.
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We try to find cameras
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to help us either see her leaving
or coming to the apartment.
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The apartment
manager gives detectives a copy
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of the surveillance footage.
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There was one camera
that covered the gate to the complex.
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You would hope that we'd be
able to see either Maribel's car
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or KC's car going
in and out of there.
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But they didn't need to go
into the complex
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because they could park right
outside their front door on the street.
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So, the camera videos that we
were examining were not helpful.
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We were able to locate one that
was above the manager's office
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and that camera focuses on
anybody that's walking up to the door.
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Try Thursday around 8 PM.
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We were hoping that,
you know, we'd find her
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exactly where she was or it
leads us in a certain direction.
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At this point,
this was all we had.
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Punch in.
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Play it again.
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I think that's her.
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Residents would leave
their checks or their rent,
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they'd put it through a slot
in the manager's office.
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When we first see Maribel,
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she appears to be in kind of
casual pajamas, almost.
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She dropped off an envelope
in the slot and then walked off.
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She is not scared.
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She doesn't look like she's
looking over her shoulder.
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She's not hurrying.
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She looks like she just put on
some sandals to walk outside
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and put the mail in
and just go to bed.
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It shows her alive the day
before she went missing
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on May 2nd about 8:30 PM.
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After a sleepless night,
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Lucy turns to social media
to help find Maribel.
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I posted a picture of my sister,
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and I asked friends
to contact me
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if they've talked to her,
seen her.
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You know, share...
share the information.
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I was extremely upset.
I was so mad.
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On many levels, you know,
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because I don't know
where my sister is.
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I did cry a lot.
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But nothing mattered.
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You know, so it was just
I had to just keep going
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and get things done.
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Any time you're
working a missing person's case,
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one of the main things to
kind of consider is victimology.
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We want to know
about the victim,
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we want to know
what her life was like,
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who she spoke with.
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What kind of boyfriends,
dating habits.
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We pulled initial
cell phone data.
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It showed that Maribel's cell
phone was either off or inoperable.
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Most people take their cell
phones with them everywhere.
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Now, if she was abducted,
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or someone had taken her,
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she may not have had time
to take her cell phone,
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but we knew that her cell
phone wasn't at the apartment.
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So, the fact that it wasn't
pinging was very suspicious.
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- Shaun.
- Hm?
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Come have a look at this.
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Paul Lopez was a boyfriend
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or was dating Maribel Ramos.
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It is very important
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to talk to the last person
that talked with Maribel.
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And Paul was the last person
to talk to her on the phone.
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Paul is asked to
come to the PD for questioning.
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He was very cavalier
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and just, "Hey, we were very early
on in the stage of our relationship...
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we were free to kind of
date on our own."
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Paul confirms that he
last spoke to Maribel by phone
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on the Thursday
she went missing.
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Just because
he's very cooperative
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doesn't mean he couldn't have
hurt Maribel.
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The truck he drove was GPS.
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We could find out
exactly where he went,
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almost like on
a minute-by-minute basis.
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The conversation turns
to Maribel's roommate, KC Joy.
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Paul tells detectives that when
he spoke to Maribel on Thursday,
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she was arguing with KC.
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He asked Maribel
if he needs to come over,
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she says, "No, I'm fine,
I'm just gonna go to sleep."
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And that's the last
conversation we know of
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between Maribel and Paul.
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This led us in the direction
of KC
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because there was some contention
between KC Joy and Maribel Ramos
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because of him not paying rent.
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KC Joy had come here from Korea
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and when he was like a teenager,
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he went to school in Tennessee
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and was a chemist of some sort.
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There was nothing to indicate
that he had any criminal record.
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A scan of KC's
social media accounts
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reveals a close relationship
with Maribel.
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KC Joy took Maribel
on an Alaskan cruise.
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There were photographs of that
in his phone and on his computer.
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One day when KC called me,
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he started telling me that,
"Oh, I'm in love with your sister,"
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and you know, "I would really like
to be that man she has a family with."
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So, I'm like, "Oh dear,"
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because, you know,
he's a great guy
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but I know that KC
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is not the type of man
that my sister's looking for.
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At some point, he started
acting different.
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He did lose his job.
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He didn't give her money
for the rent.
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So, that's where
the problem started.
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Hey, Joey,
come take a look at this.
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Officers had done a
background check on Maribel's apartment
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Listen to this.
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It shows that approximately
a week prior,
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there was a 911 call from there.
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She was combat-trained,
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so for her to be
fearful of this guy...
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was a real red flag.
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The fact that Maribel
was in the Military,
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and possibly suffered some
mental health issues because of it,
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is an important fact.
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Our veterans nowadays
go through a lot overseas
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and bring some of that back
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and have trouble dealing
with everyday life.
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It certainly paints a picture
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that things could have
gotten pretty ugly.
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Investigators
immediately call in KC for questioning.
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He's a very friendly man.
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He loves to talk.
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But then, when you hear
the phone call,
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you gotta wonder,
how does this guy
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make her feel so scared?
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He cares about her.
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So, when things
started going bad,
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it really upset him.
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He says, yeah, they were
having issues with the rent,
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because he lost his job
and couldn't pay the rent.
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He makes a statement that,
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maybe we should be looking
at Paul a little closer.
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Because, you know,
Paul had threatened him.
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KC Joy had indicated
that he had gone on a drive
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to get out of the situation
to kind of cool off.
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That is very
difficult to corroborate
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because it wasn't like he
stopped at a McDonald's
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or got gas to corroborate
that he left or where he went.
248
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He's wearing a very tight,
black, short-sleeved shirt
249
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and I could see these scratches
250
00:21:38,464 --> 00:21:40,331
and they're obviously fresh.
251
00:21:53,779 --> 00:21:55,946
He says that the ducks,
252
00:21:55,948 --> 00:21:59,016
they get this fishing line
wrapped around them
253
00:21:59,018 --> 00:22:02,053
and so he feels like he
needs to get rid of all that
254
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and when he does that, he says
there's thorns in those bushes
255
00:22:04,957 --> 00:22:07,958
and so, that's how
he got these marks.
256
00:22:09,861 --> 00:22:12,763
We're looking for signs
of a struggle.
257
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I wasn't sure what kind of
foliage they have there at the park,
258
00:22:16,569 --> 00:22:19,503
and I needed him
to show it to me.
259
00:22:19,505 --> 00:22:23,908
KC meets
investigators at Eisenhower Park.
260
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One of the officers
is wearing a covert wire.
261
00:22:34,052 --> 00:22:36,220
So, when we got to the park,
262
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one of the first things he
said, he points to this duck,
263
00:22:40,026 --> 00:22:43,160
and sure enough, its back foot
is tied up in a fishing line
264
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and I'm like,
"Oh my God, it's true!"
265
00:22:53,939 --> 00:22:59,210
So it was like, "Wow," those
thorns could make those marks.
266
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You absolutely could lose
your balance and fall into them
267
00:23:01,814 --> 00:23:06,083
and you would come up with
some pretty vicious scratches.
268
00:23:06,085 --> 00:23:09,854
Detectives return their
attention to Maribel's boyfriend,
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Paul Lopez.
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As a homicide detective,
271
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it's very important
to be open-minded.
272
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You have to follow every lead.
273
00:23:20,166 --> 00:23:23,234
Paul was the last person
to talk to her on the phone
274
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and then Maribel
just disappeared.
275
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This is Detective Ramirez
from Orange PD.
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I need some information
on one of your employees.
277
00:23:32,178 --> 00:23:35,880
When we followed up
on Paul's alibi,
278
00:23:35,882 --> 00:23:37,648
we were able to prove
279
00:23:37,650 --> 00:23:39,750
that he was an employee
of the gas company,
280
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he was working at that time.
281
00:23:42,822 --> 00:23:46,190
We were able to identify
the truck that he'd used that day
282
00:23:46,192 --> 00:23:48,659
and those trucks
have GPS on them,
283
00:23:48,661 --> 00:23:50,861
and find out exactly
where he went
284
00:23:50,863 --> 00:23:53,063
almost like on
a minute-by-minute basis.
285
00:23:53,065 --> 00:23:55,232
And he was nowhere near
the city of Orange
286
00:23:55,234 --> 00:23:57,802
or near Maribel at the time.
287
00:23:57,804 --> 00:24:00,304
At this point,
he was not a suspect.
288
00:24:00,306 --> 00:24:05,109
As days went by, it was
getting more frustrating
289
00:24:05,111 --> 00:24:08,446
because we just weren't
coming up with something solid.
290
00:24:08,448 --> 00:24:11,215
You know,
there was no smoking gun.
291
00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:13,651
The more time that went by,
292
00:24:13,653 --> 00:24:17,221
the less likely we were
looking for a missing person,
293
00:24:17,223 --> 00:24:21,225
and the more likely we were
looking into a death investigation.
294
00:24:23,728 --> 00:24:28,399
Detectives conduct a
forensic search of Maribel's apartment.
295
00:24:28,401 --> 00:24:31,235
KC allowed our crime
scene people to come in
296
00:24:31,237 --> 00:24:35,139
and they used
all this high-tech stuff
297
00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:38,943
to try and see stuff that we
can't see with the naked eye.
298
00:24:38,945 --> 00:24:41,946
They take DNA, get fingerprints,
299
00:24:41,948 --> 00:24:44,048
photographs, everything,
300
00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:47,384
he was 100% volunteering
301
00:24:47,386 --> 00:24:49,019
to help the investigation
302
00:24:49,021 --> 00:24:52,423
and we weren't finding anything.
303
00:24:52,425 --> 00:24:55,826
He had a car
at the time that was rented
304
00:24:55,828 --> 00:24:58,662
through a local rental company.
305
00:24:58,664 --> 00:25:00,331
And we had searched it,
306
00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:02,266
we had got
a cadaver dog in there
307
00:25:02,268 --> 00:25:05,302
and unfortunately,
there was no information
308
00:25:05,304 --> 00:25:07,438
that we were able to gather
from there,
309
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,507
so that was another dead end.
310
00:25:12,043 --> 00:25:15,346
In the closet,
they notice a pajama top
311
00:25:15,348 --> 00:25:17,314
with a blood smear on it.
312
00:25:19,752 --> 00:25:21,151
And they also notice
313
00:25:21,153 --> 00:25:23,988
the pajama bottoms
are consistent
314
00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:29,360
with the pajama bottoms that she was
wearing when she dropped of her check.
315
00:25:29,362 --> 00:25:33,063
That could be her blood combined
with somebody else's blood.
316
00:25:38,770 --> 00:25:40,070
Forensics results come back
317
00:25:40,072 --> 00:25:42,907
on the bloodstains
on Maribel's pajamas.
318
00:25:42,909 --> 00:25:46,944
That blood came
back to Maribel and Maribel only.
319
00:25:46,946 --> 00:25:49,346
The fact that there was no
one else's blood on her pajamas
320
00:25:49,348 --> 00:25:52,783
was also an important fact
as well.
321
00:25:52,785 --> 00:25:54,285
She could have cut herself.
322
00:25:54,287 --> 00:25:56,186
They're not sure
where that blood came from.
323
00:25:56,188 --> 00:25:58,289
Everybody had high hopes.
324
00:25:58,291 --> 00:26:01,025
They were hoping it would
kind of break open this case
325
00:26:01,027 --> 00:26:03,961
and unfortunately, when it
came back to Maribel Ramos
326
00:26:03,963 --> 00:26:06,564
and Maribel Ramos alone,
327
00:26:06,566 --> 00:26:11,835
another kind of disappointing
moment in the case, if you will.
328
00:26:11,837 --> 00:26:14,605
No matter who
you ask, the response is the same...
329
00:26:14,607 --> 00:26:17,942
The local news
pick up the story.
330
00:26:17,944 --> 00:26:20,244
Roommate of a missing
Cal State Fullerton student
331
00:26:20,246 --> 00:26:22,947
is now speaking out
about her disappearance.
332
00:26:22,949 --> 00:26:26,050
Maribel Ramos has been
missing since last Thursday.
333
00:26:26,052 --> 00:26:27,418
She's the only family I have.
334
00:26:27,420 --> 00:26:29,954
She's my best friend and I
want her to come back, that's all.
335
00:26:29,956 --> 00:26:32,790
KC would always tell them that
336
00:26:32,792 --> 00:26:35,826
he loves her, you know,
he's trying to find her himself.
337
00:26:35,828 --> 00:26:38,862
He's talking to any
reporter that'll talk to him.
338
00:26:38,864 --> 00:26:40,264
I'm volunteering,
they want a DNA sample,
339
00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:42,032
they took pictures of my body,
340
00:26:42,034 --> 00:26:45,069
they already searched the
house without a search warrant
341
00:26:45,136 --> 00:26:47,338
and I gave them
permission to do it,
342
00:26:47,340 --> 00:26:48,906
go ahead, go for it.
343
00:26:48,908 --> 00:26:52,076
He has this contentious
relationship with Maribel at the time.
344
00:26:52,078 --> 00:26:56,280
Nothing to prove that
he did something bad to her,
345
00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:58,916
so right now we were kind
of... kind of at a stalemate.
346
00:27:05,023 --> 00:27:09,126
Even though there's
no evidence on KC...
347
00:27:09,128 --> 00:27:12,096
you just couldn't help but
keep... continue to look at him.
348
00:27:12,098 --> 00:27:13,797
And for that reason,
349
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:16,800
he was under 24-hour
surveillance.
350
00:27:16,802 --> 00:27:18,802
We were hoping
that he would slip up,
351
00:27:18,804 --> 00:27:21,438
that he would take us somewhere
that would be noteworthy.
352
00:27:23,875 --> 00:27:27,311
The fact that he had given us
his phone and laptop
353
00:27:27,313 --> 00:27:29,813
made him have
to go to the library
354
00:27:29,815 --> 00:27:31,615
to be able to go on
to the Internet.
355
00:27:33,018 --> 00:27:35,085
To see what KC is doing,
356
00:27:35,087 --> 00:27:38,956
detectives pull footage from
the library surveillance cameras.
357
00:27:43,228 --> 00:27:45,062
We see him walk in casually.
358
00:27:45,064 --> 00:27:46,997
He's wearing a backpack.
359
00:27:46,999 --> 00:27:50,668
Doesn't seem to be suspicious
of anything.
360
00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:55,172
He then goes to the desk
to check out a computer.
361
00:27:57,175 --> 00:27:59,209
It's important to note
what he's doing, where he's looking.
362
00:27:59,211 --> 00:28:01,879
Is he trying to hide evidence?
363
00:28:01,881 --> 00:28:04,181
Is he, you know,
switching bank accounts?
364
00:28:04,183 --> 00:28:06,850
He actually walks
to the back of the library
365
00:28:06,852 --> 00:28:10,387
at a desk where
he positions himself
366
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:14,625
in a way that he would know
if somebody were behind him
367
00:28:14,627 --> 00:28:16,627
observing what he's looking at.
368
00:28:16,629 --> 00:28:18,195
We got any cameras at the back?
369
00:28:18,197 --> 00:28:21,932
The library doesn't have
a camera that we're able to zoom in
370
00:28:21,934 --> 00:28:25,669
and see what he's doing or
which computer he's on specifically.
371
00:28:33,078 --> 00:28:36,180
Two hours later, KC leaves.
372
00:28:37,415 --> 00:28:40,451
Detectives attempt to check
his search history.
373
00:28:41,386 --> 00:28:44,588
After each person
uses the computer,
374
00:28:44,590 --> 00:28:47,925
it's turned back in
to the librarian
375
00:28:47,927 --> 00:28:52,262
and the software is applied and it wipes
out everything that was on that computer
376
00:28:52,264 --> 00:28:54,832
and every search that
that person has done.
377
00:28:54,834 --> 00:28:57,234
Okay, thank you.
378
00:28:57,236 --> 00:29:00,337
We were coming up empty-handed
over and over and over again.
379
00:29:02,540 --> 00:29:04,808
Maribel's family hold a vigil
380
00:29:04,810 --> 00:29:08,145
to keep the search
for her alive.
381
00:29:08,147 --> 00:29:10,447
We really need
everyone's help, please.
382
00:29:10,449 --> 00:29:12,249
We need to find Maribel.
383
00:29:12,251 --> 00:29:16,019
There were a lot of people
that didn't know her personally
384
00:29:16,021 --> 00:29:19,957
but they were just trying to
be there for us and my family
385
00:29:19,959 --> 00:29:24,862
and do anything they could
to help us find her.
386
00:29:24,864 --> 00:29:27,498
She fought for us,
our family, our country.
387
00:29:29,368 --> 00:29:30,934
Everybody was...
388
00:29:31,803 --> 00:29:34,371
like, just together,
very united.
389
00:29:34,373 --> 00:29:36,673
Even a lot of strangers.
390
00:29:36,675 --> 00:29:39,276
My cousin at some point said,
391
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:42,446
you know, "What's her favorite
hike?" I told him Peter's Canyon.
392
00:29:43,381 --> 00:29:44,982
And the word got out
393
00:29:44,984 --> 00:29:49,219
that we were going to do an
awareness walk at Peter's Canyon.
394
00:29:50,989 --> 00:29:54,358
At Orange PD, a call
from KC's car rental company
395
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,426
provides a fresh lead.
396
00:29:58,129 --> 00:30:00,731
We learned through
the rental car company
397
00:30:00,733 --> 00:30:03,634
that he had just swapped
a car from a previous car.
398
00:30:03,636 --> 00:30:06,270
So, any time you turn in
a rental car
399
00:30:06,272 --> 00:30:09,306
and then get another one
assigned to you right away,
400
00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:10,841
it's a little suspicious.
401
00:30:10,843 --> 00:30:13,310
Was there something
he was trying to hide?
402
00:30:13,312 --> 00:30:16,446
We were able to go back
to the rental car company,
403
00:30:16,448 --> 00:30:19,249
we were able to find the car
that he had.
404
00:30:19,251 --> 00:30:23,153
We also had a cadaver dog
search the car
405
00:30:23,155 --> 00:30:26,824
and he did alert
to the back area of the car.
406
00:30:26,826 --> 00:30:29,993
It's still not great
physical evidence,
407
00:30:29,995 --> 00:30:31,862
but it's a big moment for us
408
00:30:31,864 --> 00:30:35,399
because it tells us that we
are going down the right road.
409
00:30:36,467 --> 00:30:38,068
So, it was very important
410
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:41,638
to keep 24-hour surveillance
on KC
411
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,043
being the person of interest
number one.
412
00:30:46,045 --> 00:30:47,978
But KC ends up calling me
413
00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:51,215
and he says, "Hey, Joey, can you
tell the guys to quit following me?"
414
00:30:51,217 --> 00:30:53,884
I immediately called
the guys and said,
415
00:30:53,886 --> 00:30:58,055
"Hey, we gotta back off
a little. He burned us."
416
00:30:59,757 --> 00:31:02,960
With KC continuing
to visit the public library,
417
00:31:02,962 --> 00:31:05,128
detectives come up with a plan.
418
00:31:07,432 --> 00:31:10,100
So, one of the guys says, "Hey,
419
00:31:10,102 --> 00:31:13,770
we can monitor his computer
420
00:31:13,772 --> 00:31:15,973
from a whole other building
remotely."
421
00:31:15,975 --> 00:31:18,942
He just needed to receive
the right computer
422
00:31:18,944 --> 00:31:20,277
that we're monitoring.
423
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:23,380
So, library staff
was brought on board
424
00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:26,049
that, "Hey, if this man
comes in,
425
00:31:26,051 --> 00:31:27,051
here's his computer."
426
00:31:33,324 --> 00:31:35,893
Sure enough, he came in,
427
00:31:35,895 --> 00:31:37,494
checked out the computer.
428
00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:43,166
We could watch exactly
what he was accessing,
429
00:31:43,168 --> 00:31:44,835
each key stroke,
430
00:31:44,837 --> 00:31:48,338
and we actually recorded it
and watched it live.
431
00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:50,240
He's filling out job
applications,
432
00:31:50,242 --> 00:31:52,209
he's on some social media sites,
433
00:31:52,211 --> 00:31:54,645
I think he's on Facebook
posting some stuff.
434
00:31:54,647 --> 00:31:58,181
There was a Maribel Ramos
Facebook page at the time.
435
00:31:58,183 --> 00:32:00,017
Nothing really stood out.
436
00:32:00,985 --> 00:32:03,954
KC writes in a search bar,
437
00:32:03,956 --> 00:32:07,024
"How long does a body
take to decay?"
438
00:32:07,959 --> 00:32:09,526
That's important,
439
00:32:09,861 --> 00:32:13,030
but could it be that he's, you know,
looking to see if she was left somewhere?
440
00:32:13,032 --> 00:32:16,300
You know, what state her body
would be in?
441
00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:18,402
He ends up seeing on Facebook
442
00:32:18,404 --> 00:32:21,638
that the family was having
an awareness walk
443
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,807
at Peter's Canyon Park.
444
00:32:23,809 --> 00:32:27,945
And he's kind of like pausing
and thinking
445
00:32:27,947 --> 00:32:31,949
and I have to assume he was thinking, you
know, "Should I or shouldn't I do this?"
446
00:32:32,350 --> 00:32:34,618
Well, he chose to do it.
447
00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:37,321
He gets that address
to Peter's Canyon,
448
00:32:37,323 --> 00:32:41,692
places the address into
a Google Maps search bar,
449
00:32:41,694 --> 00:32:43,327
zooms in on it.
450
00:32:44,495 --> 00:32:47,998
He looks at where they were gonna
meet to do this awareness walk.
451
00:32:49,133 --> 00:32:50,834
Then he backed out,
452
00:32:50,836 --> 00:32:54,071
and he navigated eight miles
into Modjeska Canyon
453
00:32:54,073 --> 00:32:56,974
and he zooms in
to this big tree.
454
00:33:00,045 --> 00:33:03,080
And he gets as close
as he can with the software.
455
00:33:04,315 --> 00:33:06,016
And then he goes to his history
456
00:33:06,018 --> 00:33:08,385
and deletes the search history.
457
00:33:08,387 --> 00:33:11,388
And so, the guys monitoring it
458
00:33:11,390 --> 00:33:13,824
are like, "Did he just do
that, oh my God!"
459
00:33:18,864 --> 00:33:21,898
This is way off
in the middle of nowhere.
460
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:25,202
No houses or trails
anywhere around here.
461
00:33:25,204 --> 00:33:28,939
So it was kind of an odd place,
we didn't know what to expect.
462
00:33:28,941 --> 00:33:33,043
When you get there and there's
barbed wire fence on this like large berm
463
00:33:33,045 --> 00:33:37,180
next to this tree which is kind of
the center of where he zoomed in at,
464
00:33:37,182 --> 00:33:41,885
in order to get through the fence we had
to kind of tuck through the barbed wire.
465
00:33:41,887 --> 00:33:45,989
While we were out here
kind of walking in the brush,
466
00:33:45,991 --> 00:33:49,860
there absolutely was a smell
of... of death.
467
00:33:49,862 --> 00:33:52,429
I don't know how else
to describe it.
468
00:33:54,098 --> 00:33:56,233
We kind of looked over
and saw...
469
00:33:57,435 --> 00:33:58,935
kind of a shallow gravesite
470
00:33:58,937 --> 00:34:03,607
and what appeared to be
a body underneath some rocks.
471
00:34:11,149 --> 00:34:14,317
Whether that was Maribel's
body, we didn't know at this point.
472
00:34:14,319 --> 00:34:18,155
She had a tattoo that
you can vaguely make out
473
00:34:18,157 --> 00:34:20,891
so that coupled
with everything else,
474
00:34:20,893 --> 00:34:23,960
I had a very strong suspicion
that it was her at the time.
475
00:34:28,634 --> 00:34:31,635
We brought KC Joy in
to really hit him hard
476
00:34:31,637 --> 00:34:33,036
with some strong questioning
477
00:34:33,038 --> 00:34:36,039
to hopefully listen
to his side of the story,
478
00:34:36,041 --> 00:34:40,043
get some information
as to how this came about.
479
00:34:47,652 --> 00:34:49,352
KC was very confident
480
00:34:49,354 --> 00:34:53,190
that, you know,
he was smarter than us.
481
00:35:20,751 --> 00:35:23,854
When somebody continues to lie
482
00:35:23,856 --> 00:35:25,255
and kind of point us
in the direction
483
00:35:25,257 --> 00:35:27,324
of, "I didn't have anything
to do with this,"
484
00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:28,625
it's frustrating.
485
00:35:42,140 --> 00:35:46,042
It didn't feel like I had to tell
him that we'd found the body.
486
00:35:46,044 --> 00:35:50,847
And pretty much gave him
just a last chance
487
00:35:50,849 --> 00:35:53,450
to put the truth down.
488
00:36:18,042 --> 00:36:21,011
He got up,
he walked out the door,
489
00:36:21,013 --> 00:36:25,415
we let him and there were some
patrolmen waiting outside for him
490
00:36:25,417 --> 00:36:27,384
and they took him into custody.
491
00:36:36,061 --> 00:36:39,896
Dental records confirm
that the body found in the canyon
492
00:36:39,898 --> 00:36:42,065
is Maribel Ramos.
493
00:36:43,568 --> 00:36:47,003
KC Joy is charged
with her murder.
494
00:36:48,339 --> 00:36:51,208
Based on the decomp
and the weather and the animal activity,
495
00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:53,910
we couldn't find
a cause of death.
496
00:36:53,912 --> 00:36:56,713
It seemed most probable
497
00:36:56,715 --> 00:36:59,583
that she was suffocated.
498
00:37:00,651 --> 00:37:03,553
That a pillow was probably
put over her head.
499
00:37:05,156 --> 00:37:06,856
It's bitter-sweet
500
00:37:06,858 --> 00:37:08,625
you know, because you always
hope,
501
00:37:08,627 --> 00:37:12,229
someway somehow she shows up.
502
00:37:13,164 --> 00:37:16,132
Channel 5 was delivering
the news
503
00:37:16,134 --> 00:37:19,169
that they found the corpse.
504
00:37:19,171 --> 00:37:22,205
I didn't cry, I just sat there.
505
00:37:23,608 --> 00:37:24,941
And...
506
00:37:26,877 --> 00:37:29,179
I just like, knew it was her.
507
00:37:29,181 --> 00:37:31,414
I just think I was just...
508
00:37:32,116 --> 00:37:34,184
just kind of numb.
509
00:37:34,186 --> 00:37:36,786
It just didn't make sense to me
510
00:37:36,788 --> 00:37:38,955
that this is what happened
to her
511
00:37:38,957 --> 00:37:42,926
or whoever had done it
would do that
512
00:37:42,928 --> 00:37:46,196
when she was about to do
so much for herself.
513
00:37:46,198 --> 00:37:48,265
So it was just very
heartbreaking.
514
00:37:48,267 --> 00:37:50,467
I was very close to her
515
00:37:50,469 --> 00:37:54,104
so, me going through that,
it was very hard.
516
00:37:54,106 --> 00:37:56,640
And especially
at the age that I was at.
517
00:37:58,976 --> 00:38:02,345
Over a year later in July 2014,
518
00:38:02,347 --> 00:38:05,181
Maribel's case goes to trial.
519
00:38:05,183 --> 00:38:08,885
The prosecution put forward
their version of events.
520
00:38:08,887 --> 00:38:11,454
Maribel had harmless intentions
521
00:38:11,456 --> 00:38:13,023
spending time with KC
522
00:38:13,025 --> 00:38:16,326
and just do some things
that friends do together.
523
00:38:16,328 --> 00:38:19,362
He took these gestures
as a little more
524
00:38:19,364 --> 00:38:22,799
and kept building
on a relationship
525
00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:24,634
that he wanted to happen.
526
00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:27,304
He was maybe
rejected by Maribel.
527
00:38:27,306 --> 00:38:29,139
He recently lost his job,
528
00:38:29,141 --> 00:38:31,608
he was refusing
to leave the apartment.
529
00:38:32,643 --> 00:38:36,079
Paul Lopez
on the phone told KC Joy,
530
00:38:36,081 --> 00:38:39,349
"Look, if you don't get out,
I'll get you out."
531
00:38:40,851 --> 00:38:44,220
I believe he... as
soon as he hung up with Paul,
532
00:38:44,222 --> 00:38:47,223
they probably had
some sort of argument again.
533
00:38:47,225 --> 00:38:51,394
When you see that video, she might
be a little bit, you know, perturbed
534
00:38:51,396 --> 00:38:55,799
but she'd already told Paul
that she was going to bed
535
00:38:55,801 --> 00:38:57,467
that she was going to be fine.
536
00:39:03,474 --> 00:39:05,208
I believe she went to bed.
537
00:39:07,712 --> 00:39:09,446
He came in and...
538
00:39:09,448 --> 00:39:12,248
a pillow was probably
put over her head.
539
00:39:14,251 --> 00:39:16,252
And she suffocated.
540
00:39:18,055 --> 00:39:19,322
I think if she was awake,
541
00:39:19,324 --> 00:39:21,124
she would've been able
to defend herself
542
00:39:21,126 --> 00:39:24,227
and there would've been
a lot more in the room
543
00:39:24,229 --> 00:39:28,164
as far as evidence goes
of a struggle.
544
00:39:31,802 --> 00:39:35,705
KC has to carry
the body to the car
545
00:39:35,707 --> 00:39:38,007
and then to that
remote location.
546
00:39:38,976 --> 00:39:42,011
And then he has to get through
the barbed wire fence.
547
00:39:42,013 --> 00:39:44,314
That's when he makes all these
cuts on his arms
548
00:39:44,316 --> 00:39:47,250
they were consistent
with barbed wire.
549
00:39:51,689 --> 00:39:55,425
On the day that KC
walked into the library,
550
00:39:55,427 --> 00:39:58,194
learns about the awareness
walk out at Peter's Canyon,
551
00:39:58,196 --> 00:40:00,130
puts in into Google Maps,
552
00:40:00,132 --> 00:40:04,100
sees that there's no way they're
gonna walk and find the body,
553
00:40:04,102 --> 00:40:07,871
but he just showed us
where he put her.
554
00:40:07,873 --> 00:40:11,040
He did a virtual drive-by
of his crime scene.
555
00:40:13,944 --> 00:40:16,379
Surveillance from computers
556
00:40:16,381 --> 00:40:19,082
is always helpful
for law enforcement.
557
00:40:19,784 --> 00:40:21,451
The fact that he thinks
558
00:40:21,453 --> 00:40:24,687
he's doing something
completely in private,
559
00:40:24,689 --> 00:40:26,289
led to his demise.
560
00:40:27,358 --> 00:40:30,593
A jury finds Kwang
Choi Joy guilty
561
00:40:30,595 --> 00:40:32,195
of second-degree murder.
562
00:40:32,197 --> 00:40:35,932
Ramos' family trying
to hold back tears in the courtroom
563
00:40:35,934 --> 00:40:40,236
before the judge sentenced
Joy to 15 years to life in prison.
564
00:40:40,238 --> 00:40:44,340
When they found KC guilty,
565
00:40:44,342 --> 00:40:47,410
I was really happy, of course
566
00:40:47,412 --> 00:40:51,181
because I knew in my heart
567
00:40:51,183 --> 00:40:52,282
that it was him.
568
00:40:52,284 --> 00:40:55,118
There was no other way
569
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,788
that someone else
could've done this.
570
00:40:58,790 --> 00:41:00,857
He maintained he was
innocent to the bitter end,
571
00:41:00,859 --> 00:41:02,225
he said he was not guilty
572
00:41:02,227 --> 00:41:06,329
and to this day, maintains
that he's not good for this crime.
573
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:16,072
The fact that he led us
to her body
574
00:41:16,074 --> 00:41:18,575
and still didn't...
575
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:21,311
take any responsibility
576
00:41:21,313 --> 00:41:24,314
for Maribel's disappearance
just made me believe
577
00:41:24,316 --> 00:41:28,051
what a sociopath he really is.
578
00:41:28,053 --> 00:41:30,186
It kind of made no sense
579
00:41:30,188 --> 00:41:33,790
because he was just so
passionate
580
00:41:33,792 --> 00:41:35,058
about my aunt
581
00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:37,894
and being her best friend.
582
00:41:37,896 --> 00:41:40,864
I mean, he was
an honest person then,
583
00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:45,368
so I was just thinking, like
"Why can't you be honest now?"
584
00:41:47,304 --> 00:41:51,207
Maribel did complete
her Bachelor's in Criminal Justice
585
00:41:51,209 --> 00:41:54,310
but she wasn't there
to graduate.
586
00:41:55,145 --> 00:42:00,083
I was the one
that received her degree.
587
00:42:00,085 --> 00:42:02,385
I felt honored,
but at the same time,
588
00:42:02,387 --> 00:42:04,387
I was kind of upset
589
00:42:04,389 --> 00:42:07,290
that it was robbed
from my aunt Maribel.
590
00:42:08,259 --> 00:42:10,793
I've lost, you know,
591
00:42:10,795 --> 00:42:14,063
a big sister, a best friend...
592
00:42:14,065 --> 00:42:16,165
you know, another role model,
593
00:42:16,167 --> 00:42:18,501
another mother figure
in my life.
594
00:42:20,104 --> 00:42:24,274
I just want people to know
595
00:42:24,276 --> 00:42:26,576
that she was a beautiful soul.
596
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,600
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