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They are the most notorious parents
in America today.
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Accused of torturing, abusing, and
imprisoning 12 of their 13 children.
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They began to be tied up.
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First with ropes, and then using
chains and padlocks.
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It's pretty weird, but I guess, I
guess evil can be very clever.
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These kids were so malnourished,
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it makes you wonder how long they
had to live.
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Early on Sunday, January 14,
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police in California are called to
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the home of the reclusive Turpin
family.
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And make a horrific
discovery.
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13 children, most are starving, some
are shackled to beds.
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All the victims
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were and are severely malnourished.
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To give you an example, one of the
children at age 12,
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is the weight of an average of
seven-year-old.
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The 29-year-old female victim weighs
82 pounds.
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Their parents, David and Louise
Turpin, are arrested.
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Police escort them from the house.
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Their story goes global.
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Looks like a typical suburban home.
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What was allegedly happening?
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Who knew that this was going on?
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Who would do this?
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Within days, they are charged.
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Abuse of a dependant adult.
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False imprisonment.
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Torture.
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Child abuse or neglect.
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And lewd act on a child by force or
fear.
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If convicted of these charges,
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these defendants are facing up to 94
years to life imprisonment.
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It looks ordinary enough, an estate
in Perris,
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a town in Southern California.
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It's like they were hidden in plain
sight.
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This home is in the middle of a
beautiful neighbourhood.
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But there is nothing ordinary about
Perris now.
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It has become infamous for what
allegedly happened in this house.
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It's where the Turpins lived,
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and where the alleged abuse of their
children was conducted.
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At the heart of their story,
lie dark and terrible secrets.
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Louise's sister, Theresa,
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has revealed that, as children, they
were subjected to sexual abuse.
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I can still feel his...
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..breath on my neck when he was
whispering,
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"Be quiet, don't tell nobody",
you know?
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Later, Louise and David make changes
to their private life.
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And decide to act out secret sexual
fantasies.
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Just different partners, I guess,
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wanted to experience what it was
like with somebody else.
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And secret lives, as the Turpins
withdraw ever deeper
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into an isolated night-time world of
their own.
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With a nocturnal lifestyle, where
you can't...
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..see out the windows, you can't
connect with the daylight,
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you're further isolated from
reality.
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The Turpins' world would come
crashing down
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when one teenage daughter,
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who posts videos of her own songs on
YouTube...
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SHE SINGS
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..finds the courage to escape and
calls police
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on a secret mobile phone.
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You can imagine a scenario where
perhaps the 17-year-old
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is the one who's going through
puberty,
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and just pissed off and angry,
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and wanted to make a run for it.
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But why and how did this happen?
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Why didn't the children try to
escape?
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After all, the eight eldest are
adults.
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18 to 29.
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It seems their survival strategy
was to create their own highly
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individual universe.
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They may hold and hug each other,
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the older children are taking care
of the younger children.
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So I think in situations where kids
have each other,
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that that bond becomes very strong,
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and that there is a caretaking
ability
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that's inherent in those
relationships.
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The Turpin's story begins on the
other side of the United States.
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In West Virginia, 34 years ago.
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Her sister Theresa remembers the
young Louise Turpin
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as strong-willed, even with their
strict parents.
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Obedient in front of them, but
behind their back, no.
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I think that Louise was going to get
her way, no matter what.
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Before she married David Turpin,
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Louise's surname was Robinette.
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The family were devout Pentecostal
Christians.
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They attended the Church of God,
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where followers speak in tongues and
refuse alcohol.
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This is where Louise first met
David.
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He was in his early 20s,
she was barely a teenager.
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My dad, I know,
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was infuriated about the age
difference,
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and her dating at that age.
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He didn't think it was appropriate
for them to be alone without adult
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supervision. And my mom loved David
and his family because they were
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the best Christians, and they were
so close to our family.
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But, my mom hid that from my dad.
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She let Louise see him behind my
dad's back.
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In 1985, Louise and David married at
this church.
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Three years later, they had their
first child, a girl.
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In 1992,
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they left West Virginia and moved
halfway across America
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to Fort Worth in Texas.
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The move was significant.
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David and Louise began to slip under
the radar.
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And Theresa believes Louise wanted
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to put distance between herself and
her family.
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And a very dark secret involving a
man in the family's inner circle.
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He would slip money into my hand,
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while he was doing whatever he was
doing,
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and he thought that that made it OK.
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Louise moved away to escape years of
continual sexual abuse,
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starting in childhood.
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But even before, many years earlier,
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the perpetrator had targeted their
mother.
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As far back as I can remember,
this person...
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..he molested my mom all of her
life.
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Then he turned to the daughters,
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Louise and Theresa, and their
mother,
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desperate for money, would go along
with it.
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We begged my mom not to take us up
there some days,
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and she would take us anyway.
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He owned all kinds of things and he
was very, very wealthy.
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And she would tell us she had to
feed us.
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She would tell us she had to
clothe us.
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That she didn't know which was going
to do.
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Even when Louise moved away,
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Theresa says she and her sister
Elizabeth continued to be abused.
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We would be so scared, we would hold
each other all night.
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Me and Elizabeth would hold hands
and pray together.
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I mean, there were so many things, I
mean...
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And we knew, we just knew...
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..that it was just the way was, it
was the way it was, it was,
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it was going to happen because
you're not supposed to talk.
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You know? You're not supposed to
talk.
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He destroyed my self-worth...
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..as a child, and so I know he
destroyed Louise's.
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I definitely think Louise going up
there scarred her.
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That was an open wound that I don't
think ever got healed.
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Louise may have moved over 1,000
miles,
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but was she really able to shake off
years of such treatment?
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As we know, people who are abusers
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tend to be people who have
experienced abuse themselves.
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It's extremely sad.
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If you're raised by an abusive
family,
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maybe they think that's the only way
or right way that they need to be
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treated or to treat someone.
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Is Louise a victim in this?
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I don't know, I mean, I'm really
angry with Louise right now.
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So it's hard for me to say that.
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All I can say is...
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..Louise knew right from wrong.
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Regardless, Louise knew right from
wrong.
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Louise knew what she was doing was
wrong, or she wouldn't have hid it.
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In the early 1990s, it appears the
Turpins were doing well.
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Their second child, a son, was born.
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It seemed Louise had left her
childhood abuse behind.
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Her sister Theresa believes they
were starting to live the good life.
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I thought their life was perfect,
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just like it was when we went out
there.
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She always had the nice homes and
the nice cars.
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They were the most perfect family I
ever had seen.
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She was funny, like you know, like I
could joke with her.
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I could joke with David.
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And I even said, I said, "Oh Louise
is the one who got that fairy tale.
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"She's been married to her husband
since she was 16,
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"they've got all this money."
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David Turpin was on a 6-figure
salary,
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working as an engineer at the
aerospace company Lockheed Martin.
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Whatever is going on behind closed
doors,
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to the outside world they appeared a
normal, rapidly growing family.
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In some ways, these individuals
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probably had the strategy to appear
one way,
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and to have a hidden secret life
that they were leading in a very
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different way, and in contrast to
what were seeing.
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Between 1992 and 1996,
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David and Louise had four more
children, bringing the total to six.
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But that fairy tale was about to
turn into a nightmare.
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Coming up: The Turpin's apparently
perfect life was unravelling, and
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the authorities say this is when the
years of alleged abuse
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within the growing family really
began.
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What started out as neglect became
severe,
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pervasive, prolonged child abuse.
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In 1992, life for David and Louise
Turpin,
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the American parents charged with
torturing their own children,
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takes a turn for the worse.
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They face money problems and file
for bankruptcy.
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Honestly, I think it was a pride
thing.
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I think she was ashamed.
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I think that she knew that we knew
that she was the only one of us that
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had made it in this world.
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She was the only one of us who had
gotten with
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her high school sweetheart
and stayed with him this long.
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I believe that she was ashamed to
tell us anything like that,
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anything bad that happened.
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And it's in Texas,
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according to the District Attorney
dealing with their case,
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the alleged abuse of their children
began.
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The neglect and abuse started when
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the family lived in the Fort Worth
area of Texas.
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What started out as neglect
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became severe, pervasive,
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prolonged child abuse.
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The Turpins become more and more
reclusive.
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More isolated, retreating further
into their own dark world.
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In hindsight, Louise's sister
Theresa
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believes what they saw they may all
have been a front.
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So that makes me wonder,
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was the week that we visited you all
every year,
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was that just a show?
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Was that, you know, a show for the
family?
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Is that a one week out of the year
show for the family?
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You know, I don't know. I've always
thought that they were in love.
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Because I've always thought it was a
fairy tale romance.
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They've known each other all their
lives,
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but now that I look back,
I wonder. I wonder.
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By 1999, they have seven children.
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And they're about to disappear
almost entirely from view.
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First, they leave Fort Worth.
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The new owners found the place left
in a terrible state.
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Soiled carpets, filthy walls, and
unexplained scratches on the doors.
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The people that we knew then,
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I mean, is a world away from what
we're hearing now.
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So either some really bad things
happened
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that changed who they were as
people, or
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they're just very, very good actors.
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And I think they're just very, very
good actors.
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With their seven children,
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the Turpins then cut themselves off
from the family, almost entirely.
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The very last time I physically saw
them and they came to us in 1998.
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She came in with the oldest four,
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and she came to West Virginia,
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and she told a very close family
member of mine that
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that was the last time she would be
in.
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That that was the last the family
would see of her.
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I think that she was so hurt.
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They appeared to be shutting out the
rest of the world.
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Isolating the kids is another
strategy
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on the parents' part to manipulate
them, control them,
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and make sure they have as little
access to reality as possible.
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Their new home was a remote 36-acre
plot, deep in rural Texas.
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Neighbours know neighbours here, but
respect privacy.
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It wasn't long before the family
living next door to the Turpins
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sensed it was all getting strange.
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Whenever we would come up close to
the house,
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they would turn and start going back
towards their property.
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They didn't want to come past our
house.
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They stayed where they, I guess,
where no-one could really see them.
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One time, I caught them out on the
road,
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and I started asking them, like,
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"Hey, I'm your neighbour across the
street.
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"I'm Ashley's mom Shelli and my
husband's name is Ricki.
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"What's ya'll's names?"
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And it got weird, you know,
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the older girl was like,
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"Well, if you pay attention to what
we say,
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"maybe you could figure out what our
names are."
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And one of the younger girls turns
around and goes, "No, don't, don't."
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And she looks scared, like they're
going to get in trouble.
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The Vinyards noticed other things.
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Though their full significance would
not become apparent
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for another 15 years.
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I started looking at them and I
noticed how white their hands were.
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And I hadn't noticed that before,
and it wasn't gloves,
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it was the fact that the rest of
them was dirty.
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That, to the wrist down, was the
only clean part of them.
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And they started telling me how it
was that if you went past the wrist,
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it was wasting water.
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And that's when it got kind of scary
and I kind of pulled back.
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It all became horribly clear after
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David and Louise Turpin were
arrested,
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and the District Attorney spelled
out what was happening.
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None of the victims were allowed to
shower more than once a year.
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If the children were found to wash
their hands above the wrist area
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they were accused of playing in the
water.
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And they would be chained up.
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Things were weird and suspicious and
I wish I had done more.
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I really do wish I had done more,
you know?
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This was when the behaviour of the
Turpin family became truly bizarre.
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They got to where they wouldn't be
out during the day, only after dark.
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And it seemed like they were keeping
night hours,
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and completely a ghost
town over there during the day.
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At night it was like every light in
the house was on,
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but all the curtains were drawn
shut.
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But the house would be lit up all
night long.
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If the kids were outside, you could
hear them, but otherwise silence.
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That house was silent all day long.
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With a nocturnal lifestyle, where
you can't
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see out the windows, you
can't connect with the daylight,
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you're further isolated from
reality,
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and it feels like this was to
completely deprive them
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of a normal sensory experience in
the world.
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They had bicycles for like ten kids
over there, brand-new,
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and they just sat and rotted.
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No-one ever played with them even
when they came out at night to play,
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a no-one ever played, even when
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you'd see them out every rare
occasion,
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they'd never touch the bicycles.
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It tends to be related to wanting to
have
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this secretive, kind of isolated
life.
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It's part of, "our rules are
different,
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"we do things differently in this
house."
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And the parents, again,
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are setting yet another rule or
another condition
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to their existence.
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It's pretty weird, but I guess evil
can be very clever.
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They probably were looking for
someplace like this,
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where they could fly under the
radar.
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The authorities said this is when
the starving began.
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The children were, when they were
not chained up,
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locked in different rooms.
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And fed very little, on a schedule.
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There's people that live near them
that said
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they saw the two oldest boys
digging in trash cans,
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so how did you not question that?
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I'm sorry, if I saw a teenage boy
going into a trash can,
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I'm going to go ask him,
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"Is everything is OK? Like, what are
you doing?"
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And see what response I got.
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In Texas, in 2010, one of the girls
makes a break for it.
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She flags down a passing pick-up
truck
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and tries to call the emergency
services.
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A lady picked her up in a pick-up
truck and from what I was told,
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the lady had talked to her,
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and she didn't seem to know who the
president was, her age,
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or a lot of things that
she should've known.
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And that she was asking how to get
a job, an apartment, and a car.
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But the woman takes the girl back to
her parents.
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The chance to save the children
from
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another eight years of alleged
abuse was lost.
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That could have been it, that
could've the moment,
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that could've been their escape.
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I really wish that maybe someone had
listened to her a little bit more.
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Because she did seem to have worked
so hard
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to have gotten out of there,
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and she had gotten so far out,
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and then somebody seemed to have
talked her into going right back.
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And she wasn't able to put up much
of a fight.
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Between 1999 and 2005, David and
Louise Turpin
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have another six children, bringing
the total to 12.
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A large family by any standards.
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In fact, Louise has five children in
just five years.
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She appears deeply attracted to the
early stages of motherhood.
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Could this be the key to explain
what is happening?
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I did wonder whether this was a
woman who liked the infancy stage,
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which is a stage where you're needed
the most,
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because the child can't do anything
for him or herself.
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And then as soon as that stage was
passed,
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she would start thinking about being
pregnant again.
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It seemed she and David didn't want
their children to grow up.
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Louise had a need for babies.
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Could it be that she wanted her
children
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to always remain as infants?
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It appears that they never wanted
their kids to grow up.
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They wanted to live in Neverland.
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Forever. It just seems like their
fascination with Disneyland,
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their children almost purposefully
being, you know,
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malnourished to stunt their
growth...
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..to keep them small.
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00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,840
In 2010, the Turpins' family
fortunes dwindled further.
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David lost his job at Lockheed
Martin,
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and once again, they're in debt.
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Unable to pay their mortgage, the
Turpins left Texas in a hurry.
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One night they seemed to kind of
just disappear
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in the middle of the night.
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When the house goes up for sale,
their neighbours, the Vinyards,
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take a sneak look inside.
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What they see appals them.
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We opened the door and the dogs came
flying out.
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They had been living off the trash
and dirty diapers
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that they had left in the house, to
eat.
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The living room was set up like a
makeshift school with a broken
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chalkboard set up against it and
there wasn't, like, crayons.
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There was no colouring books.
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00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,000
There wasn't toys.
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00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,600
It was just filth and trash.
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The carpet had been ripped up, and
plywood had been laid down,
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00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,000
and you could still see that even
the plywood was stained and gross.
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The bedrooms where the kids were
clearly living was set up like,
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I guess like bunks. Just like a
barracks.
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Just one bunk bed right after the
other,
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right after the other, and in the
other room it was the same way.
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One thing Shelley saw confused her.
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00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,360
But later, haunted her.
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Ropes tied to the children's beds.
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Just tied to the headboard or
footboard at the end by the doors.
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00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,960
I just thought the kids had done it,
I didn't know.
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I was just like, "Wow, why in the
world are there ropes on there?"
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00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,400
I wouldn't let my kids play with
ropes.
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00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,080
The victims report that as a
punishment,
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starting many years ago, they began
to be tied up.
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00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,400
First with ropes,
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one victim at one point was tied up
and hogtied.
394
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,200
And then when that victim was able
to escape the ropes,
395
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,400
these defendants eventually began
using chains
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00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,800
and padlocks to chain up
the victims to their beds.
397
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,720
And then you think back, "Oh, my
gosh,
398
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,520
"the ropes on the bed, the secrecy."
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00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,880
You know, it was a lot more serious
than we realised.
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This is not a common type of trauma,
401
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in the sense of the magnitude of the
trauma.
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00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,720
We know trauma is everywhere,
unfortunately,
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00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,280
but the depth and breadth of this
trauma was enormous.
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Coming up... Louise and David
Turpin's lifestyle
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00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,560
enters new and dark territory,
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when their sexual fantasies are
unleashed.
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00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,840
And she said, "Well, it's time for
us to sew those wild oats."
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00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,080
This January, David and Louise
Turpin
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became the most notorious parents in
America,
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when they were charged with starving
and torturing
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12 of their 13 children.
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But ten years ago, according to her
sister Theresa,
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00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,320
Louise and David Turpin's
lifestyle took
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00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:22,120
a darker and dangerously voyeuristic
turn.
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She'd never taken a drink of
alcohol.
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00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:27,760
She had never smoked a cigarette.
417
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,080
She had never done a drug.
418
00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:31,840
She'd never partied. She'd never
done any of that.
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And she said, "Well, it's time for
us to sew those wild oats."
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I knew that she was experimenting,
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which to me was a little abnormal
for her age.
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00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,360
She was getting to that hill that
she just was like, "Oh,
423
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,080
"wait, I never did this."
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So, like, she wanted to climb back
down to experience it.
425
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,840
Just different partners, I guess.
426
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,760
Wanted to experience what it was
like with somebody else.
427
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,600
David took her to meet this man
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00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,760
that they had never met before in
their life.
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00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,200
She slept with him in the room,
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00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,880
and David sat out in the car and
waited on her.
431
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,560
They recorded it for David, so he
could watch it.
432
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,600
A year later, on the anniversary of
the date she did it,
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00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,800
at exactly a year to the date,
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00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,600
David took her to the same hotel,
435
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,680
and slept with her in the same bed
that that man slept with her in.
436
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,920
My mom got so mad at Louise over
some pictures
437
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,280
that Louise had posted on MySpace.
438
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,040
It blew our minds.
439
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,320
Because she had on a one piece
lingerie.
440
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:38,360
And this guy was taking picture of
her in this lingerie,
441
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,680
and she had pictures of herself in
the bathtub,
442
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,560
and I know my mom got very, very
upset over those pictures.
443
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,400
Then in 2010, another big move.
444
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,720
The Turpins leave their Texas home
in total squalor.
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00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,480
These photographs were taken by the
incoming owners.
446
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:02,800
The Turpins move halfway across the
country to California.
447
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,920
Here, according to the prosecuting
authorities,
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00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,360
the alleged abuse got more extreme.
449
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,280
The abuse and severe neglect
intensified over time,
450
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,520
and intensified as they
moved to California.
451
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,600
It's also when they became even more
reclusive.
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More secretive and isolated.
453
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,200
The Turpins launched their own
home-school,
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00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,760
the benignly named Sandcastle Day
School.
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00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,760
But their only pupils were the
Turpin children.
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00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,640
And it seems there was not much
teaching.
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00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,800
The children lacked even, they lack
a basic knowledge of life.
458
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,280
Many of the children didn't know
what a police officer was.
459
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:56,600
The 17-year-old, when asked if there
was medication or pills in the home,
460
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,640
didn't know what medication
or pills were.
461
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:08,520
These individuals managed to isolate
and confine themselves in such a way
462
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,840
that there's no external
accountability in the world.
463
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,800
This is reinforced by Billy Lambert,
Louise Turpin's half-brother.
464
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,720
He remembers the children being
painfully shy, not easy to talk to.
465
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,400
The oldest, she just seemed like she
didn't want to hold a conversation
466
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,640
with you. She didn't really want to
make eye contact.
467
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,440
They just didn't seem like they
wanted to go out there and play.
468
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,680
In 2014, the Turpins make one final
move.
469
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,120
Muir Woods Road in the town of
Perris,
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is the very model of suburban
California.
471
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,920
The house at the centre of the
current torture allegations.
472
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,920
It appears quite normal.
473
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,160
But what allegedly happened behind
this front door
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00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,400
was far from normal.
475
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,520
As the Turpins' contact with the
outside world is all but curtailed.
476
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,520
The children were, when they were
not chained up,
477
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,920
locked in different rooms.
478
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,040
And fed very little on a schedule.
479
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,560
These kids were not being given, but
maybe one meal a day.
480
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,800
What hurt me as a parent, covering
the story,
481
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,040
was hearing that they would put pies
out on the counter,
482
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,800
the kids could see those pies, but
they weren't allowed to eat them.
483
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,080
Parents could eat them, but not the
kids.
484
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,200
And that's just torturous.
485
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,640
Physically, starvation is
devastating on every organ system.
486
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,520
And starvation is uniquely cruel,
487
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,520
because it weakens the person's
ability to think properly.
488
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,040
Our ability to cope, and to process,
and to fight,
489
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,520
and to think clearly is dependent on
adequate nourishment.
490
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,360
Stories emerge of just how hungry
the children were.
491
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,360
Especially the few times they were
allowed out.
492
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,720
Like when the eldest son took a
class at a community college.
493
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,840
We talked to a classmate at the
college,
494
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,160
and she said that the boy,
495
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,280
whenever they brought food in, free
food or anything like that,
496
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:27,600
he would stand at the table and eat
pizza slice after pizza slice.
497
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,600
He was constantly eating, because it
was there.
498
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,200
He was eating like he was starving.
499
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,240
Like he hadn't eaten in a long time.
500
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,800
Food was not the only thing they
were deprived of.
501
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,360
They were not allowed to have toys.
502
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,000
Although there were many toys found
in the house,
503
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,720
that were in their original
packaging and had never been opened.
504
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,960
This is on a different level.
505
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,560
You almost get the feeling that
these kids
506
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,320
were living in a prison camp
507
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,160
inside their own home.
508
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,760
Neighbours definitely got the sense
the Turpins wanted to be left alone.
509
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,680
I thought they were isolated,
no friends came over,
510
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,480
no family came over.
511
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,840
Standoffish.
512
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,600
Not in a mean way, just,
513
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,080
"Don't bother me, I'm in my lane,
just don't...
514
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,840
"I'm not going to pay attention to
you,
515
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,320
"you're not going to pay attention
to me."
516
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,000
Despite what's allegedly going on,
517
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,960
there are rare times when all the
Turpins ventured out,
518
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,160
and appeared to be one big happy
family.
519
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,520
Like here, at Disneyland.
520
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,360
Then, in 2015, the Turpin's 13th and
final child arrives.
521
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,080
It's also when they go to Las Vegas
522
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,240
with all their children as
witnesses,
523
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,880
to renew their wedding vows.
524
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,640
I promise. I promise.
525
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,400
To love you tender. To love you
tender.
526
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,840
I will never. I will never.
527
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,880
Leave you. Leave you.
528
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,480
As heartbreak hotel. At heartbreak
hotel.
529
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,640
It was to be one of the last times
530
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,120
the entire Turpin family was seen in
public.
531
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,040
I think this desire to present the
family as happy and healthy
532
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,800
might be a motivation for them,
533
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,760
in order to feel like they really
aren't doing anything wrong.
534
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,440
The photograph is a
snapshot
535
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,760
and a smile can hide extreme pain.
536
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,040
And so when someone says,
"Say cheese",
537
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,560
they might say cheese because
they've been trained to.
538
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,280
While they presented a wholesome
face in public,
539
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,000
Theresa remains haunted
540
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,560
by what, in private, might have been
happening at home.
541
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,720
To go from just amazing and wealthy,
542
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,800
and all these Christian values, and
543
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,640
to go completely to the other side,
that's like...
544
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,320
You're off your map, like, you're on
somebody else's map.
545
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,800
In 2016, personal grief for Louise
Turpin and sister Theresa.
546
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,400
Their mother dies, aged 66.
547
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,640
But reclusive Louise in California
refused to attend the funeral.
548
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,920
She found it hard to forgive her
mother
549
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,160
for the years of abuse,
550
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,200
and she seemed to have been the one
who suffered the most.
551
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,800
I think she held a lot of resentment
toward Mommy.
552
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,800
I think Louise has kind of worked
the same.
553
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,000
When she first left, I think that
554
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,440
she was mad and resented Mommy a
lot.
555
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,000
I think she resented the whole
family because they kept the secret.
556
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,680
Refusing to attend the funeral
557
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,480
caused deep resentment in the
family.
558
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,560
She told me that she felt bad, you
know,
559
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,320
she didn't make it to the funeral.
560
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,800
She did feel bad about that,
561
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,360
she felt like she kind of let Mom
down on that end.
562
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,280
We did call her, try to get her come
to the hospital because we told her
563
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,400
"It's down south, this isn't coming
back. You've got to get here."
564
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,880
And she just didn't do it.
565
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,920
And the sense of isolation from her
family grew even deeper.
566
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,200
By 2016, six of the Turpin children
were adults.
567
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,560
Despite what they have allegedly
been through,
568
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,920
the question is simply why didn't
they escape, make a break for it?
569
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,800
Why weren't they able to get out?
570
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,840
Why weren't they able to move on?
571
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,040
And see that this was a bad
situation?
572
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,000
Yet they stayed, and that makes you
think, "Wow, why?"
573
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,720
The children's mind-set, say
experts, was complex.
574
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,680
Could they have felt safe
575
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,320
in their own small universe with its
own rules?
576
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,320
So the kids form, like, a band,
577
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,280
and they bond together very
strongly,
578
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,600
and I think that that's part of
their survival strategy.
579
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,440
If you have a band of siblings who
are going through the same thing,
580
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,320
and you're starved, and you can't
think straight,
581
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,520
and you're not developing properly,
582
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,480
socially, emotionally, and you're
disconnected from the world,
583
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,320
you may not know that that is
unusual.
584
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,000
While the children felt a deep bond
with each other,
585
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,960
they may also have felt a similar
bond with their alleged torturers.
586
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,000
Their parents.
587
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,600
I think one of the most difficult
things to understand
588
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,200
is the control that the parents have
over the children.
589
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,240
They're so dependent on the people
who are abusing them,
590
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,320
but at the same time, "taking care
of them".
591
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,280
This is a phenomenon known as
Stockholm Syndrome.
592
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,000
When hostages side with their
captors.
593
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,960
And could go some way to explain
what
594
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,200
the Turpin children were
experiencing.
595
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,000
Stockholm Syndrome is a phenomenon
where, under extreme traumatic
596
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,720
circumstances, a person will start
to adhere to,
597
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,640
and even believe in the
mind-set of their captor.
598
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,080
"I will go along with what my
parents are doing,
599
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,040
"because I don't know anything
else."
600
00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:15,640
Coming up... The moment the world
discovered the Turpin 13.
601
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,720
Fearing for her life, one of the
girls, just 17, makes a dawn escape,
602
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,840
clutching a mobile phone.
603
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,480
And 20 years of alleged abuse, were
exposed.
604
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,840
To me, she's a hero.
605
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,920
Because if it weren't for her,
606
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,800
these kids were so malnourished,
607
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,120
it makes you wonder how long they
had to live.
608
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,480
The Turpin children have allegedly
been kept prisoners by their own
609
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,240
parents for over 20 years.
610
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,280
But one child, a 17-year-old
daughter,
611
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,040
seems more independently minded than
the rest.
612
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,800
It's a song called You Told Me.
Yeah.
613
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,400
Certainly, by the end of 2017,
614
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,120
she had found a way to post her own
original songs on YouTube.
615
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,280
Using the name, Lacey Swan.
616
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:24,280
SHE SINGS
617
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,960
In hindsight, the titles of the
songs seem shockingly revealing.
618
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,080
Where Is The Key?
619
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,520
# Oh, where is the key?
620
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,440
# Where is the key? #
621
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,760
You Blame Me.
622
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,200
# You blame me for everything. #
623
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:43,240
And So Weak.
624
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:49,720
# So weak, so weak. #
625
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,400
She made at least eight videos,
626
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,720
the last posted just days before
she made her escape.
627
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,040
Eventually, she reaches tipping
point.
628
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,320
You can imagine a scenario where
perhaps
629
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:10,360
the 17-year-old is the one who's
going through puberty,
630
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,840
and just pissed off and angry, and
wanted to make a run for it.
631
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,880
On Sunday January 14, at six in the
morning,
632
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,320
she finally summoned up the courage
to escape.
633
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,440
For 12 of the 13 Turpin children,
634
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,920
years and years of alleged abuse,
635
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,840
starvation, and torture are finally
over.
636
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,640
For this child,
637
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,800
it's hard to know the ingredients
638
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,680
that come into play where she
develops a sense of mastery,
639
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:43,720
like, "I can do this and I'm going
to forge out".
640
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,920
The girl, who planned her get away
for two years,
641
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,960
told police she was terrified
642
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,040
her parents would kill her if she
was caught.
643
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,480
The motivation may have been
not so much to take care of herself,
644
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,720
but to take care of her siblings,
645
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,640
or to just get this situation to
stop once and for all.
646
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,560
Whatever the reason,
647
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,680
the teenager's courage breaks a
cycle of abuse
648
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,840
that allegedly went on for years.
649
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,400
To me she's a hero because if it
weren't for her,
650
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,640
these kids were so malnourished,
651
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,640
it makes you wonder how long they
had to live.
652
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,160
Even the girl who escaped was in
such a poor state physically,
653
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,320
police thought she looked more like
a ten-year-old.
654
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,880
Family and neighbours were stunned
by the news.
655
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,040
When the story first broke,
656
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,760
the first thing I saw was their
mugshots,
657
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,680
and I looked at her and I was like
"Oh, my God."
658
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,840
These two pictures, that in itself
shocked me.
659
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,720
Yeah, and she was perplexed as to
why they were there.
660
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,440
Yeah, that pissed me off.
661
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,360
Why would you be surprised that an
officer is at your door,
662
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,240
but you don't know why they're
there?
663
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,400
Billy Lambert was angry when he saw
the relatives he thought he knew.
664
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,360
I feel betrayed as far as a brother,
you know, by my sister.
665
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,600
That Louise, I feel like she
betrayed me.
666
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,640
My mom sent me the link.
667
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,720
As soon as I opened and I saw their
faces,
668
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,000
it was just like...
669
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,800
Questions that I had been asking
myself for years were answered.
670
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,000
I just want them to know that if
they ever felt
671
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,640
like we forgot about them,
672
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,720
if they ever felt like we didn't
care, we did care.
673
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,200
We knew you were there, we knew you
were there.
674
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,920
We didn't know what to do.
675
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,360
When police searched the Turpins'
home,
676
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,480
they make a valuable discovery.
677
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,200
Hundreds of journals, handwritten by
the children.
678
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,240
They are immediately seized by
police,
679
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,760
to provide key evidence for
their parents' trial.
680
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,440
Once they go through those journals,
681
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,200
they're going to see the first-hand
accounts of what each one of these
682
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:11,560
kids that wrote a journal, what they
went through.
683
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,920
Apparently that was their only
entertainment...
684
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,000
was talking to each other and
writing in these journals.
685
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,520
I think that's a positive thing for
kids, because it's expressive,
686
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,760
it's an expressive activity that
they can do.
687
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,960
But I also do wonder about the
parents
688
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,440
and their interest in the kids
documenting things.
689
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,440
And their encouragement of the
children to write things down.
690
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,600
These individuals sleep all day and
are up all night.
691
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,960
The...all 13 of the victims,
692
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,880
including the defendants,
693
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,640
typically go to sleep around four or
five in the morning.
694
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,320
Sleep all day and then be up all
through the night.
695
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,080
It'll take many years for the
children to adjust
696
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,360
to living in the real world.
697
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,600
You can heal from a nutritional
standpoint,
698
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,320
you can heal from a sensory
reintroduction standpoint,
699
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,280
much of what they were deprived of
is sensory,
700
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,560
in terms of living in the world in
daylight,
701
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,760
and with other human beings.
702
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,200
But I don't think you can really
ever recover emotionally
703
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,200
from the trauma that you experience
like that.
704
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,040
On March 19, nine weeks after
they're taken into care,
705
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,760
the seven oldest Turpin children,
aged 18 to 29,
706
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,240
are moved from a medical centre to
a secret rural location
707
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,840
where they are under constant
supervision.
708
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,160
According to the lawyer, they have
enjoyed ice cream Sundays,
709
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,960
topped with hot fudge.
710
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,240
They have been shopping, to
restaurants,
711
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,440
they have their own bedrooms,
wardrobes, and bathrooms.
712
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,520
And for the first time in their
lives,
713
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,200
they also have the freedom to go
outside.
714
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,720
You talk to the health professionals
715
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,320
that worked directly with these
kids,
716
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,320
and they will tell you that they all
had great attitudes.
717
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:34,280
You hear now the success stories,
these kids are so receptive,
718
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:39,120
they're wonderful, good people and
you can see the potential in them,
719
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,240
and now hopefully, the world will.
720
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,080
The younger children are being cared
for by two foster families.
721
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,680
But in the long term, their
relatives hope
722
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:49,360
somehow to bring them home.
723
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,040
I want to adopt two of them.
724
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,760
The adults will, more than likely,
725
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,240
not be able to be adopted out,
726
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,760
because the adults are in
a nice home,
727
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,600
that has been converted into kind of
like apartments for them
728
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,800
which is probably very cool for
them.
729
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,000
And that they are
learning how to be adults,
730
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:15,040
learning how to be taking care of
themselves, and be independent.
731
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,800
I want to adopt,
732
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,200
I'm interested in adopting at least
three of the kids if I could.
733
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,160
I would love to take in three.
734
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,720
I feel like I could do that
financially fine.
735
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,040
So, I feel like if I could get three
of the kids,
736
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,640
I would love to and try to help in
any way I can.
737
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,920
Their parents, Louise and David,
738
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,960
face a lifetime behind bars if
convicted of the charges.
739
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,560
The only way they can contact the
children now
740
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,400
is through their lawyers.
741
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:48,560
We are not planning to and will not
try our case in the media out here.
742
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,600
Our case, whatever it may be,
743
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,600
is going to be tried and heard
in the courtroom.
744
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,440
Both David and Louise Turpin have
pleaded not guilty
745
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,840
to all the charges against them,
746
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,200
including 12 kinds of torture,
747
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:07,320
12 counts of false imprisonment,
748
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,680
nine counts of child abuse and
endangerment,
749
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:13,360
seven counts of cruelty to an adult
dependent.
750
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,040
David Turpin is separately charged
with
751
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,240
one count of a lewd act on a child
under the age of 14.
752
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,320
Louise Turpin is separately charged
with
753
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,240
one count of assault with force,
754
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,560
likely to produce great bodily
injury.
755
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,440
What we would like to have the
public know is that our clients are
756
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,760
presumed to be innocent.
757
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,600
They are presumed to be not guilty.
758
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,800
We are going to provide a vigorous
defence.
759
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,360
No trial date has yet been set.
760
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,760
Louise Turpin's sister Theresa is
torn between
761
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,920
what her sibling was and
what she may have turned into.
762
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,520
I hate who she's become.
763
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,320
And I absolutely hate her ways in
every way.
764
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,120
I hate her beliefs, I hate who she's
become.
765
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,680
I love the sister that left home
when I was three.
766
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:08,800
As for the children, Theresa
believes
767
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,720
life will be an emotional
roller-coaster,
768
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,120
but in the end, they will survive.
769
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,080
I think they'll be happy.
770
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,120
They'll have fun times and they'll
have
771
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,800
times that they're emotional and
upset over, you know,
772
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,120
things that come back to that
memory.
773
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,680
I think they'll be OK.
774
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:35,320
I think they'll be OK. I think with
the right people, the right love,
775
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:40,640
I think they'll be OK. I don't think
that they'll ever get back
776
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,560
time that they should've had,
but they'll OK. They're loved.
777
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,800
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