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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,600 They are the most notorious parents in America today. 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,960 Accused of torturing, abusing, and imprisoning 12 of their 13 children. 3 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:16,440 They began to be tied up. 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,920 First with ropes, and then using chains and padlocks. 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,480 It's pretty weird, but I guess, I guess evil can be very clever. 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,680 These kids were so malnourished, 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,520 it makes you wonder how long they had to live. 8 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,120 Early on Sunday, January 14, 9 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:39,320 police in California are called to 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,920 the home of the reclusive Turpin family. 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,320 And make a horrific discovery. 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,920 13 children, most are starving, some are shackled to beds. 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,200 All the victims 14 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,600 were and are severely malnourished. 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,520 To give you an example, one of the children at age 12, 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,720 is the weight of an average of seven-year-old. 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:06,600 The 29-year-old female victim weighs 82 pounds. 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,160 Their parents, David and Louise Turpin, are arrested. 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,640 Police escort them from the house. 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,920 Their story goes global. 21 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:16,600 Looks like a typical suburban home. 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,080 What was allegedly happening? 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,440 Who knew that this was going on? 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,400 Who would do this? 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,960 Within days, they are charged. 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,160 Abuse of a dependant adult. 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,360 False imprisonment. 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,120 Torture. 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,640 Child abuse or neglect. 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,440 And lewd act on a child by force or fear. 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,280 If convicted of these charges, 32 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:44,960 these defendants are facing up to 94 years to life imprisonment. 33 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,560 It looks ordinary enough, an estate in Perris, 34 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,000 a town in Southern California. 35 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,520 It's like they were hidden in plain sight. 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,840 This home is in the middle of a beautiful neighbourhood. 37 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,120 But there is nothing ordinary about Perris now. 38 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,160 It has become infamous for what allegedly happened in this house. 39 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,000 It's where the Turpins lived, 40 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,720 and where the alleged abuse of their children was conducted. 41 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,080 At the heart of their story, lie dark and terrible secrets. 42 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,840 Louise's sister, Theresa, 43 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,640 has revealed that, as children, they were subjected to sexual abuse. 44 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,280 I can still feel his... 45 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,520 ..breath on my neck when he was whispering, 46 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,240 "Be quiet, don't tell nobody", you know? 47 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,480 Later, Louise and David make changes to their private life. 48 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,240 And decide to act out secret sexual fantasies. 49 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,960 Just different partners, I guess, 50 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,480 wanted to experience what it was like with somebody else. 51 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,920 And secret lives, as the Turpins withdraw ever deeper 52 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,040 into an isolated night-time world of their own. 53 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,600 With a nocturnal lifestyle, where you can't... 54 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,240 ..see out the windows, you can't connect with the daylight, 55 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,240 you're further isolated from reality. 56 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,720 The Turpins' world would come crashing down 57 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,480 when one teenage daughter, 58 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,120 who posts videos of her own songs on YouTube... 59 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,880 SHE SINGS 60 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,200 ..finds the courage to escape and calls police 61 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,040 on a secret mobile phone. 62 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,880 You can imagine a scenario where perhaps the 17-year-old 63 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,000 is the one who's going through puberty, 64 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,200 and just pissed off and angry, 65 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,440 and wanted to make a run for it. 66 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,440 But why and how did this happen? 67 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,680 Why didn't the children try to escape? 68 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,040 After all, the eight eldest are adults. 69 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,920 18 to 29. 70 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,720 It seems their survival strategy was to create their own highly 71 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,840 individual universe. 72 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,560 They may hold and hug each other, 73 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,840 the older children are taking care of the younger children. 74 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,680 So I think in situations where kids have each other, 75 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,800 that that bond becomes very strong, 76 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:26,200 and that there is a caretaking ability 77 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,760 that's inherent in those relationships. 78 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:34,680 The Turpin's story begins on the other side of the United States. 79 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,400 In West Virginia, 34 years ago. 80 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,960 Her sister Theresa remembers the young Louise Turpin 81 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,000 as strong-willed, even with their strict parents. 82 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,840 Obedient in front of them, but behind their back, no. 83 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,280 I think that Louise was going to get her way, no matter what. 84 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,480 Before she married David Turpin, 85 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,680 Louise's surname was Robinette. 86 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,720 The family were devout Pentecostal Christians. 87 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,640 They attended the Church of God, 88 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,040 where followers speak in tongues and refuse alcohol. 89 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,920 This is where Louise first met David. 90 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,360 He was in his early 20s, she was barely a teenager. 91 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,760 My dad, I know, 92 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,080 was infuriated about the age difference, 93 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,240 and her dating at that age. 94 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:24,320 He didn't think it was appropriate for them to be alone without adult 95 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:30,120 supervision. And my mom loved David and his family because they were 96 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,160 the best Christians, and they were so close to our family. 97 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,240 But, my mom hid that from my dad. 98 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:39,160 She let Louise see him behind my dad's back. 99 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,280 In 1985, Louise and David married at this church. 100 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,720 Three years later, they had their first child, a girl. 101 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,240 In 1992, 102 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:57,040 they left West Virginia and moved halfway across America 103 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,840 to Fort Worth in Texas. 104 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,520 The move was significant. 105 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,160 David and Louise began to slip under the radar. 106 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,120 And Theresa believes Louise wanted 107 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,200 to put distance between herself and her family. 108 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:16,800 And a very dark secret involving a man in the family's inner circle. 109 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:20,680 He would slip money into my hand, 110 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,320 while he was doing whatever he was doing, 111 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,640 and he thought that that made it OK. 112 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,320 Louise moved away to escape years of continual sexual abuse, 113 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,400 starting in childhood. 114 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,200 But even before, many years earlier, 115 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,480 the perpetrator had targeted their mother. 116 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,400 As far back as I can remember, this person... 117 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,080 ..he molested my mom all of her life. 118 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,800 Then he turned to the daughters, 119 00:06:57,840 --> 00:06:59,840 Louise and Theresa, and their mother, 120 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,920 desperate for money, would go along with it. 121 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,960 We begged my mom not to take us up there some days, 122 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,800 and she would take us anyway. 123 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,160 He owned all kinds of things and he was very, very wealthy. 124 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,320 And she would tell us she had to feed us. 125 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,960 She would tell us she had to clothe us. 126 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,960 That she didn't know which was going to do. 127 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,480 Even when Louise moved away, 128 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,080 Theresa says she and her sister Elizabeth continued to be abused. 129 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,840 We would be so scared, we would hold each other all night. 130 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,320 Me and Elizabeth would hold hands and pray together. 131 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,120 I mean, there were so many things, I mean... 132 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,880 And we knew, we just knew... 133 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,600 ..that it was just the way was, it was the way it was, it was, 134 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,800 it was going to happen because you're not supposed to talk. 135 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,680 You know? You're not supposed to talk. 136 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,120 He destroyed my self-worth... 137 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,720 ..as a child, and so I know he destroyed Louise's. 138 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,840 I definitely think Louise going up there scarred her. 139 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,160 That was an open wound that I don't think ever got healed. 140 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,920 Louise may have moved over 1,000 miles, 141 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,960 but was she really able to shake off years of such treatment? 142 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,040 As we know, people who are abusers 143 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:24,320 tend to be people who have experienced abuse themselves. 144 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,120 It's extremely sad. 145 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,160 If you're raised by an abusive family, 146 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,560 maybe they think that's the only way or right way that they need to be 147 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,160 treated or to treat someone. 148 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,240 Is Louise a victim in this? 149 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,040 I don't know, I mean, I'm really angry with Louise right now. 150 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,880 So it's hard for me to say that. 151 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,520 All I can say is... 152 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,320 ..Louise knew right from wrong. 153 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,760 Regardless, Louise knew right from wrong. 154 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,680 Louise knew what she was doing was wrong, or she wouldn't have hid it. 155 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,600 In the early 1990s, it appears the Turpins were doing well. 156 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,520 Their second child, a son, was born. 157 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:04,560 It seemed Louise had left her childhood abuse behind. 158 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,480 Her sister Theresa believes they were starting to live the good life. 159 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,000 I thought their life was perfect, 160 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,760 just like it was when we went out there. 161 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,200 She always had the nice homes and the nice cars. 162 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,640 They were the most perfect family I ever had seen. 163 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:24,000 She was funny, like you know, like I could joke with her. 164 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,360 I could joke with David. 165 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,720 And I even said, I said, "Oh Louise is the one who got that fairy tale. 166 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,080 "She's been married to her husband since she was 16, 167 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,480 "they've got all this money." 168 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,840 David Turpin was on a 6-figure salary, 169 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,560 working as an engineer at the aerospace company Lockheed Martin. 170 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,160 Whatever is going on behind closed doors, 171 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,040 to the outside world they appeared a normal, rapidly growing family. 172 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,520 In some ways, these individuals 173 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:52,440 probably had the strategy to appear one way, 174 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,600 and to have a hidden secret life that they were leading in a very 175 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,880 different way, and in contrast to what were seeing. 176 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:03,040 Between 1992 and 1996, 177 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,720 David and Louise had four more children, bringing the total to six. 178 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,680 But that fairy tale was about to turn into a nightmare. 179 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,960 Coming up: The Turpin's apparently perfect life was unravelling, and 180 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,000 the authorities say this is when the years of alleged abuse 181 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,280 within the growing family really began. 182 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,720 What started out as neglect became severe, 183 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,720 pervasive, prolonged child abuse. 184 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,400 In 1992, life for David and Louise Turpin, 185 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,640 the American parents charged with torturing their own children, 186 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:49,680 takes a turn for the worse. 187 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,840 They face money problems and file for bankruptcy. 188 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,360 Honestly, I think it was a pride thing. 189 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,720 I think she was ashamed. 190 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:02,760 I think that she knew that we knew that she was the only one of us that 191 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,880 had made it in this world. 192 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,320 She was the only one of us who had gotten with 193 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,800 her high school sweetheart and stayed with him this long. 194 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,680 I believe that she was ashamed to tell us anything like that, 195 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,800 anything bad that happened. 196 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,160 And it's in Texas, 197 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,160 according to the District Attorney dealing with their case, 198 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,120 the alleged abuse of their children began. 199 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,000 The neglect and abuse started when 200 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,120 the family lived in the Fort Worth area of Texas. 201 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,440 What started out as neglect 202 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,360 became severe, pervasive, 203 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,560 prolonged child abuse. 204 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,280 The Turpins become more and more reclusive. 205 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:44,160 More isolated, retreating further into their own dark world. 206 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,280 In hindsight, Louise's sister Theresa 207 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,120 believes what they saw they may all have been a front. 208 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:52,760 So that makes me wonder, 209 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,240 was the week that we visited you all every year, 210 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,400 was that just a show? 211 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,640 Was that, you know, a show for the family? 212 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:01,560 Is that a one week out of the year show for the family? 213 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,480 You know, I don't know. I've always thought that they were in love. 214 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,280 Because I've always thought it was a fairy tale romance. 215 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,640 They've known each other all their lives, 216 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:12,880 but now that I look back, I wonder. I wonder. 217 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,360 By 1999, they have seven children. 218 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,720 And they're about to disappear almost entirely from view. 219 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,480 First, they leave Fort Worth. 220 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,840 The new owners found the place left in a terrible state. 221 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:33,160 Soiled carpets, filthy walls, and unexplained scratches on the doors. 222 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,880 The people that we knew then, 223 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,960 I mean, is a world away from what we're hearing now. 224 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:46,320 So either some really bad things happened 225 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:52,280 that changed who they were as people, or 226 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,120 they're just very, very good actors. 227 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,720 And I think they're just very, very good actors. 228 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,200 With their seven children, 229 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,800 the Turpins then cut themselves off from the family, almost entirely. 230 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,480 The very last time I physically saw them and they came to us in 1998. 231 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,520 She came in with the oldest four, 232 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:14,560 and she came to West Virginia, 233 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,640 and she told a very close family member of mine that 234 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:22,600 that was the last time she would be in. 235 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,760 That that was the last the family would see of her. 236 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,240 I think that she was so hurt. 237 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,240 They appeared to be shutting out the rest of the world. 238 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:35,200 Isolating the kids is another strategy 239 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,160 on the parents' part to manipulate them, control them, 240 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,720 and make sure they have as little access to reality as possible. 241 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:50,720 Their new home was a remote 36-acre plot, deep in rural Texas. 242 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,920 Neighbours know neighbours here, but respect privacy. 243 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,320 It wasn't long before the family living next door to the Turpins 244 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,600 sensed it was all getting strange. 245 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,480 Whenever we would come up close to the house, 246 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,000 they would turn and start going back towards their property. 247 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,520 They didn't want to come past our house. 248 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:15,040 They stayed where they, I guess, where no-one could really see them. 249 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,640 One time, I caught them out on the road, 250 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:18,000 and I started asking them, like, 251 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,000 "Hey, I'm your neighbour across the street. 252 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,840 "I'm Ashley's mom Shelli and my husband's name is Ricki. 253 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,520 "What's ya'll's names?" 254 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,400 And it got weird, you know, 255 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,160 the older girl was like, 256 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,320 "Well, if you pay attention to what we say, 257 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,800 "maybe you could figure out what our names are." 258 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,480 And one of the younger girls turns around and goes, "No, don't, don't." 259 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,920 And she looks scared, like they're going to get in trouble. 260 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,160 The Vinyards noticed other things. 261 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,880 Though their full significance would not become apparent 262 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,240 for another 15 years. 263 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,960 I started looking at them and I noticed how white their hands were. 264 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,920 And I hadn't noticed that before, and it wasn't gloves, 265 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,880 it was the fact that the rest of them was dirty. 266 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:05,320 That, to the wrist down, was the only clean part of them. 267 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,000 And they started telling me how it was that if you went past the wrist, 268 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,960 it was wasting water. 269 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,680 And that's when it got kind of scary and I kind of pulled back. 270 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,280 It all became horribly clear after 271 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,880 David and Louise Turpin were arrested, 272 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,520 and the District Attorney spelled out what was happening. 273 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,200 None of the victims were allowed to shower more than once a year. 274 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,840 If the children were found to wash their hands above the wrist area 275 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,440 they were accused of playing in the water. 276 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,000 And they would be chained up. 277 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,360 Things were weird and suspicious and I wish I had done more. 278 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,920 I really do wish I had done more, you know? 279 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,800 This was when the behaviour of the Turpin family became truly bizarre. 280 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,480 They got to where they wouldn't be out during the day, only after dark. 281 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,680 And it seemed like they were keeping night hours, 282 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,560 and completely a ghost town over there during the day. 283 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,320 At night it was like every light in the house was on, 284 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,240 but all the curtains were drawn shut. 285 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,840 But the house would be lit up all night long. 286 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:12,000 If the kids were outside, you could hear them, but otherwise silence. 287 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,800 That house was silent all day long. 288 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,880 With a nocturnal lifestyle, where you can't 289 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,920 see out the windows, you can't connect with the daylight, 290 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,000 you're further isolated from reality, 291 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,880 and it feels like this was to completely deprive them 292 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,480 of a normal sensory experience in the world. 293 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,680 They had bicycles for like ten kids over there, brand-new, 294 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,280 and they just sat and rotted. 295 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,320 No-one ever played with them even when they came out at night to play, 296 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,080 a no-one ever played, even when 297 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,400 you'd see them out every rare occasion, 298 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,400 they'd never touch the bicycles. 299 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,120 It tends to be related to wanting to have 300 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,760 this secretive, kind of isolated life. 301 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,320 It's part of, "our rules are different, 302 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,760 "we do things differently in this house." 303 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,360 And the parents, again, 304 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,200 are setting yet another rule or another condition 305 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,400 to their existence. 306 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,720 It's pretty weird, but I guess evil can be very clever. 307 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,920 They probably were looking for someplace like this, 308 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,480 where they could fly under the radar. 309 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,680 The authorities said this is when the starving began. 310 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,880 The children were, when they were not chained up, 311 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,400 locked in different rooms. 312 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,080 And fed very little, on a schedule. 313 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:28,080 There's people that live near them that said 314 00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:31,840 they saw the two oldest boys digging in trash cans, 315 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,320 so how did you not question that? 316 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:37,760 I'm sorry, if I saw a teenage boy going into a trash can, 317 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:38,920 I'm going to go ask him, 318 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,040 "Is everything is OK? Like, what are you doing?" 319 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,240 And see what response I got. 320 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,480 In Texas, in 2010, one of the girls makes a break for it. 321 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,680 She flags down a passing pick-up truck 322 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,280 and tries to call the emergency services. 323 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,640 A lady picked her up in a pick-up truck and from what I was told, 324 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,120 the lady had talked to her, 325 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,600 and she didn't seem to know who the president was, her age, 326 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,360 or a lot of things that she should've known. 327 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,280 And that she was asking how to get a job, an apartment, and a car. 328 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,560 But the woman takes the girl back to her parents. 329 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,240 The chance to save the children from 330 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,840 another eight years of alleged abuse was lost. 331 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,160 That could have been it, that could've the moment, 332 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,800 that could've been their escape. 333 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,240 I really wish that maybe someone had listened to her a little bit more. 334 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,760 Because she did seem to have worked so hard 335 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,400 to have gotten out of there, 336 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,000 and she had gotten so far out, 337 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,520 and then somebody seemed to have talked her into going right back. 338 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,360 And she wasn't able to put up much of a fight. 339 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,200 Between 1999 and 2005, David and Louise Turpin 340 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,400 have another six children, bringing the total to 12. 341 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,520 A large family by any standards. 342 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,640 In fact, Louise has five children in just five years. 343 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,560 She appears deeply attracted to the early stages of motherhood. 344 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,920 Could this be the key to explain what is happening? 345 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,720 I did wonder whether this was a woman who liked the infancy stage, 346 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,320 which is a stage where you're needed the most, 347 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:22,000 because the child can't do anything for him or herself. 348 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,000 And then as soon as that stage was passed, 349 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,720 she would start thinking about being pregnant again. 350 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:32,960 It seemed she and David didn't want their children to grow up. 351 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,240 Louise had a need for babies. 352 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,280 Could it be that she wanted her children 353 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,800 to always remain as infants? 354 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,640 It appears that they never wanted their kids to grow up. 355 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,080 They wanted to live in Neverland. 356 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:52,800 Forever. It just seems like their fascination with Disneyland, 357 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:59,800 their children almost purposefully being, you know, 358 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,960 malnourished to stunt their growth... 359 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,120 ..to keep them small. 360 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,840 In 2010, the Turpins' family fortunes dwindled further. 361 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,520 David lost his job at Lockheed Martin, 362 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,840 and once again, they're in debt. 363 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,920 Unable to pay their mortgage, the Turpins left Texas in a hurry. 364 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,480 One night they seemed to kind of just disappear 365 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,120 in the middle of the night. 366 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,560 When the house goes up for sale, their neighbours, the Vinyards, 367 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,400 take a sneak look inside. 368 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,280 What they see appals them. 369 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,160 We opened the door and the dogs came flying out. 370 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,680 They had been living off the trash and dirty diapers 371 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,600 that they had left in the house, to eat. 372 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,600 The living room was set up like a makeshift school with a broken 373 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,720 chalkboard set up against it and there wasn't, like, crayons. 374 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,160 There was no colouring books. 375 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,000 There wasn't toys. 376 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,600 It was just filth and trash. 377 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,120 The carpet had been ripped up, and plywood had been laid down, 378 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,000 and you could still see that even the plywood was stained and gross. 379 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,760 The bedrooms where the kids were clearly living was set up like, 380 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:11,880 I guess like bunks. Just like a barracks. 381 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,720 Just one bunk bed right after the other, 382 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,520 right after the other, and in the other room it was the same way. 383 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,880 One thing Shelley saw confused her. 384 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,360 But later, haunted her. 385 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,640 Ropes tied to the children's beds. 386 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,840 Just tied to the headboard or footboard at the end by the doors. 387 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,960 I just thought the kids had done it, I didn't know. 388 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,200 I was just like, "Wow, why in the world are there ropes on there?" 389 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,400 I wouldn't let my kids play with ropes. 390 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,080 The victims report that as a punishment, 391 00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:51,320 starting many years ago, they began to be tied up. 392 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,400 First with ropes, 393 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,600 one victim at one point was tied up and hogtied. 394 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,200 And then when that victim was able to escape the ropes, 395 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,400 these defendants eventually began using chains 396 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,800 and padlocks to chain up the victims to their beds. 397 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,720 And then you think back, "Oh, my gosh, 398 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,520 "the ropes on the bed, the secrecy." 399 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,880 You know, it was a lot more serious than we realised. 400 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,840 This is not a common type of trauma, 401 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,600 in the sense of the magnitude of the trauma. 402 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,720 We know trauma is everywhere, unfortunately, 403 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,280 but the depth and breadth of this trauma was enormous. 404 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Coming up... Louise and David Turpin's lifestyle 405 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,560 enters new and dark territory, 406 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,400 when their sexual fantasies are unleashed. 407 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,840 And she said, "Well, it's time for us to sew those wild oats." 408 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,080 This January, David and Louise Turpin 409 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,960 became the most notorious parents in America, 410 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,160 when they were charged with starving and torturing 411 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,040 12 of their 13 children. 412 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,680 But ten years ago, according to her sister Theresa, 413 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,320 Louise and David Turpin's lifestyle took 414 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:22,120 a darker and dangerously voyeuristic turn. 415 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,320 She'd never taken a drink of alcohol. 416 00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:27,760 She had never smoked a cigarette. 417 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,080 She had never done a drug. 418 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:31,840 She'd never partied. She'd never done any of that. 419 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,520 And she said, "Well, it's time for us to sew those wild oats." 420 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,120 I knew that she was experimenting, 421 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,440 which to me was a little abnormal for her age. 422 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,360 She was getting to that hill that she just was like, "Oh, 423 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,080 "wait, I never did this." 424 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:49,120 So, like, she wanted to climb back down to experience it. 425 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,840 Just different partners, I guess. 426 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,760 Wanted to experience what it was like with somebody else. 427 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,600 David took her to meet this man 428 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,760 that they had never met before in their life. 429 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,200 She slept with him in the room, 430 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,880 and David sat out in the car and waited on her. 431 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,560 They recorded it for David, so he could watch it. 432 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,600 A year later, on the anniversary of the date she did it, 433 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,800 at exactly a year to the date, 434 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,600 David took her to the same hotel, 435 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,680 and slept with her in the same bed that that man slept with her in. 436 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,920 My mom got so mad at Louise over some pictures 437 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,280 that Louise had posted on MySpace. 438 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,040 It blew our minds. 439 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,320 Because she had on a one piece lingerie. 440 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:38,360 And this guy was taking picture of her in this lingerie, 441 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,680 and she had pictures of herself in the bathtub, 442 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,560 and I know my mom got very, very upset over those pictures. 443 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,400 Then in 2010, another big move. 444 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,720 The Turpins leave their Texas home in total squalor. 445 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,480 These photographs were taken by the incoming owners. 446 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:02,800 The Turpins move halfway across the country to California. 447 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,920 Here, according to the prosecuting authorities, 448 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,360 the alleged abuse got more extreme. 449 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,280 The abuse and severe neglect intensified over time, 450 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,520 and intensified as they moved to California. 451 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,600 It's also when they became even more reclusive. 452 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,240 More secretive and isolated. 453 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,200 The Turpins launched their own home-school, 454 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,760 the benignly named Sandcastle Day School. 455 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,760 But their only pupils were the Turpin children. 456 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,640 And it seems there was not much teaching. 457 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,800 The children lacked even, they lack a basic knowledge of life. 458 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,280 Many of the children didn't know what a police officer was. 459 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:56,600 The 17-year-old, when asked if there was medication or pills in the home, 460 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,640 didn't know what medication or pills were. 461 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:08,520 These individuals managed to isolate and confine themselves in such a way 462 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,840 that there's no external accountability in the world. 463 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,800 This is reinforced by Billy Lambert, Louise Turpin's half-brother. 464 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,720 He remembers the children being painfully shy, not easy to talk to. 465 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,400 The oldest, she just seemed like she didn't want to hold a conversation 466 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,640 with you. She didn't really want to make eye contact. 467 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,440 They just didn't seem like they wanted to go out there and play. 468 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,680 In 2014, the Turpins make one final move. 469 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,120 Muir Woods Road in the town of Perris, 470 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,200 is the very model of suburban California. 471 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,920 The house at the centre of the current torture allegations. 472 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,920 It appears quite normal. 473 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,160 But what allegedly happened behind this front door 474 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,400 was far from normal. 475 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,520 As the Turpins' contact with the outside world is all but curtailed. 476 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,520 The children were, when they were not chained up, 477 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,920 locked in different rooms. 478 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,040 And fed very little on a schedule. 479 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,560 These kids were not being given, but maybe one meal a day. 480 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,800 What hurt me as a parent, covering the story, 481 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,040 was hearing that they would put pies out on the counter, 482 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,800 the kids could see those pies, but they weren't allowed to eat them. 483 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,080 Parents could eat them, but not the kids. 484 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,200 And that's just torturous. 485 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,640 Physically, starvation is devastating on every organ system. 486 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,520 And starvation is uniquely cruel, 487 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,520 because it weakens the person's ability to think properly. 488 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,040 Our ability to cope, and to process, and to fight, 489 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,520 and to think clearly is dependent on adequate nourishment. 490 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,360 Stories emerge of just how hungry the children were. 491 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,360 Especially the few times they were allowed out. 492 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,720 Like when the eldest son took a class at a community college. 493 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,840 We talked to a classmate at the college, 494 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,160 and she said that the boy, 495 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,280 whenever they brought food in, free food or anything like that, 496 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:27,600 he would stand at the table and eat pizza slice after pizza slice. 497 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,600 He was constantly eating, because it was there. 498 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,200 He was eating like he was starving. 499 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,240 Like he hadn't eaten in a long time. 500 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,800 Food was not the only thing they were deprived of. 501 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,360 They were not allowed to have toys. 502 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,000 Although there were many toys found in the house, 503 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,720 that were in their original packaging and had never been opened. 504 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,960 This is on a different level. 505 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,560 You almost get the feeling that these kids 506 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,320 were living in a prison camp 507 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,160 inside their own home. 508 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,760 Neighbours definitely got the sense the Turpins wanted to be left alone. 509 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,680 I thought they were isolated, no friends came over, 510 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,480 no family came over. 511 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,840 Standoffish. 512 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,600 Not in a mean way, just, 513 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,080 "Don't bother me, I'm in my lane, just don't... 514 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,840 "I'm not going to pay attention to you, 515 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,320 "you're not going to pay attention to me." 516 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,000 Despite what's allegedly going on, 517 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,960 there are rare times when all the Turpins ventured out, 518 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,160 and appeared to be one big happy family. 519 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,520 Like here, at Disneyland. 520 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,360 Then, in 2015, the Turpin's 13th and final child arrives. 521 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,080 It's also when they go to Las Vegas 522 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,240 with all their children as witnesses, 523 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,880 to renew their wedding vows. 524 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,640 I promise. I promise. 525 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,400 To love you tender. To love you tender. 526 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,840 I will never. I will never. 527 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,880 Leave you. Leave you. 528 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,480 As heartbreak hotel. At heartbreak hotel. 529 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,640 It was to be one of the last times 530 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,120 the entire Turpin family was seen in public. 531 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,040 I think this desire to present the family as happy and healthy 532 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,800 might be a motivation for them, 533 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,760 in order to feel like they really aren't doing anything wrong. 534 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,440 The photograph is a snapshot 535 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,760 and a smile can hide extreme pain. 536 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,040 And so when someone says, "Say cheese", 537 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,560 they might say cheese because they've been trained to. 538 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,280 While they presented a wholesome face in public, 539 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,000 Theresa remains haunted 540 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,560 by what, in private, might have been happening at home. 541 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,720 To go from just amazing and wealthy, 542 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,800 and all these Christian values, and 543 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,640 to go completely to the other side, that's like... 544 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,320 You're off your map, like, you're on somebody else's map. 545 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,800 In 2016, personal grief for Louise Turpin and sister Theresa. 546 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,400 Their mother dies, aged 66. 547 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,640 But reclusive Louise in California refused to attend the funeral. 548 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,920 She found it hard to forgive her mother 549 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,160 for the years of abuse, 550 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,200 and she seemed to have been the one who suffered the most. 551 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,800 I think she held a lot of resentment toward Mommy. 552 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,800 I think Louise has kind of worked the same. 553 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,000 When she first left, I think that 554 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,440 she was mad and resented Mommy a lot. 555 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,000 I think she resented the whole family because they kept the secret. 556 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,680 Refusing to attend the funeral 557 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,480 caused deep resentment in the family. 558 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,560 She told me that she felt bad, you know, 559 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,320 she didn't make it to the funeral. 560 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,800 She did feel bad about that, 561 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,360 she felt like she kind of let Mom down on that end. 562 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,280 We did call her, try to get her come to the hospital because we told her 563 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,400 "It's down south, this isn't coming back. You've got to get here." 564 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,880 And she just didn't do it. 565 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,920 And the sense of isolation from her family grew even deeper. 566 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,200 By 2016, six of the Turpin children were adults. 567 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,560 Despite what they have allegedly been through, 568 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,920 the question is simply why didn't they escape, make a break for it? 569 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,800 Why weren't they able to get out? 570 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,840 Why weren't they able to move on? 571 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,040 And see that this was a bad situation? 572 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,000 Yet they stayed, and that makes you think, "Wow, why?" 573 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,720 The children's mind-set, say experts, was complex. 574 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,680 Could they have felt safe 575 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,320 in their own small universe with its own rules? 576 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,320 So the kids form, like, a band, 577 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,280 and they bond together very strongly, 578 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,600 and I think that that's part of their survival strategy. 579 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,440 If you have a band of siblings who are going through the same thing, 580 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,320 and you're starved, and you can't think straight, 581 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,520 and you're not developing properly, 582 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,480 socially, emotionally, and you're disconnected from the world, 583 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,320 you may not know that that is unusual. 584 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,000 While the children felt a deep bond with each other, 585 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,960 they may also have felt a similar bond with their alleged torturers. 586 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,000 Their parents. 587 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,600 I think one of the most difficult things to understand 588 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,200 is the control that the parents have over the children. 589 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,240 They're so dependent on the people who are abusing them, 590 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,320 but at the same time, "taking care of them". 591 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,280 This is a phenomenon known as Stockholm Syndrome. 592 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,000 When hostages side with their captors. 593 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,960 And could go some way to explain what 594 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,200 the Turpin children were experiencing. 595 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,000 Stockholm Syndrome is a phenomenon where, under extreme traumatic 596 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,720 circumstances, a person will start to adhere to, 597 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,640 and even believe in the mind-set of their captor. 598 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,080 "I will go along with what my parents are doing, 599 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,040 "because I don't know anything else." 600 00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:15,640 Coming up... The moment the world discovered the Turpin 13. 601 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,720 Fearing for her life, one of the girls, just 17, makes a dawn escape, 602 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,840 clutching a mobile phone. 603 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,480 And 20 years of alleged abuse, were exposed. 604 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,840 To me, she's a hero. 605 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,920 Because if it weren't for her, 606 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,800 these kids were so malnourished, 607 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,120 it makes you wonder how long they had to live. 608 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,480 The Turpin children have allegedly been kept prisoners by their own 609 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,240 parents for over 20 years. 610 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,280 But one child, a 17-year-old daughter, 611 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,040 seems more independently minded than the rest. 612 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,800 It's a song called You Told Me. Yeah. 613 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,400 Certainly, by the end of 2017, 614 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,120 she had found a way to post her own original songs on YouTube. 615 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,280 Using the name, Lacey Swan. 616 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:24,280 SHE SINGS 617 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,960 In hindsight, the titles of the songs seem shockingly revealing. 618 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,080 Where Is The Key? 619 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,520 # Oh, where is the key? 620 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,440 # Where is the key? # 621 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,760 You Blame Me. 622 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,200 # You blame me for everything. # 623 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:43,240 And So Weak. 624 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:49,720 # So weak, so weak. # 625 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,400 She made at least eight videos, 626 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,720 the last posted just days before she made her escape. 627 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,040 Eventually, she reaches tipping point. 628 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,320 You can imagine a scenario where perhaps 629 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:10,360 the 17-year-old is the one who's going through puberty, 630 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,840 and just pissed off and angry, and wanted to make a run for it. 631 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,880 On Sunday January 14, at six in the morning, 632 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,320 she finally summoned up the courage to escape. 633 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,440 For 12 of the 13 Turpin children, 634 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,920 years and years of alleged abuse, 635 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,840 starvation, and torture are finally over. 636 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,640 For this child, 637 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,800 it's hard to know the ingredients 638 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,680 that come into play where she develops a sense of mastery, 639 00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:43,720 like, "I can do this and I'm going to forge out". 640 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,920 The girl, who planned her get away for two years, 641 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,960 told police she was terrified 642 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,040 her parents would kill her if she was caught. 643 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,480 The motivation may have been not so much to take care of herself, 644 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,720 but to take care of her siblings, 645 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,640 or to just get this situation to stop once and for all. 646 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,560 Whatever the reason, 647 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,680 the teenager's courage breaks a cycle of abuse 648 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,840 that allegedly went on for years. 649 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,400 To me she's a hero because if it weren't for her, 650 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,640 these kids were so malnourished, 651 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,640 it makes you wonder how long they had to live. 652 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,160 Even the girl who escaped was in such a poor state physically, 653 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,320 police thought she looked more like a ten-year-old. 654 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,880 Family and neighbours were stunned by the news. 655 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,040 When the story first broke, 656 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,760 the first thing I saw was their mugshots, 657 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,680 and I looked at her and I was like "Oh, my God." 658 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,840 These two pictures, that in itself shocked me. 659 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,720 Yeah, and she was perplexed as to why they were there. 660 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,440 Yeah, that pissed me off. 661 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,360 Why would you be surprised that an officer is at your door, 662 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,240 but you don't know why they're there? 663 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,400 Billy Lambert was angry when he saw the relatives he thought he knew. 664 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,360 I feel betrayed as far as a brother, you know, by my sister. 665 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,600 That Louise, I feel like she betrayed me. 666 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,640 My mom sent me the link. 667 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,720 As soon as I opened and I saw their faces, 668 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,000 it was just like... 669 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,800 Questions that I had been asking myself for years were answered. 670 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,000 I just want them to know that if they ever felt 671 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,640 like we forgot about them, 672 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,720 if they ever felt like we didn't care, we did care. 673 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,200 We knew you were there, we knew you were there. 674 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,920 We didn't know what to do. 675 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,360 When police searched the Turpins' home, 676 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,480 they make a valuable discovery. 677 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,200 Hundreds of journals, handwritten by the children. 678 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,240 They are immediately seized by police, 679 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,760 to provide key evidence for their parents' trial. 680 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,440 Once they go through those journals, 681 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,200 they're going to see the first-hand accounts of what each one of these 682 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:11,560 kids that wrote a journal, what they went through. 683 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,920 Apparently that was their only entertainment... 684 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,000 was talking to each other and writing in these journals. 685 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,520 I think that's a positive thing for kids, because it's expressive, 686 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,760 it's an expressive activity that they can do. 687 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,960 But I also do wonder about the parents 688 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,440 and their interest in the kids documenting things. 689 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,440 And their encouragement of the children to write things down. 690 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,600 These individuals sleep all day and are up all night. 691 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,960 The...all 13 of the victims, 692 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,880 including the defendants, 693 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,640 typically go to sleep around four or five in the morning. 694 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,320 Sleep all day and then be up all through the night. 695 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,080 It'll take many years for the children to adjust 696 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,360 to living in the real world. 697 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,600 You can heal from a nutritional standpoint, 698 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,320 you can heal from a sensory reintroduction standpoint, 699 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,280 much of what they were deprived of is sensory, 700 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,560 in terms of living in the world in daylight, 701 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,760 and with other human beings. 702 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,200 But I don't think you can really ever recover emotionally 703 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,200 from the trauma that you experience like that. 704 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,040 On March 19, nine weeks after they're taken into care, 705 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,760 the seven oldest Turpin children, aged 18 to 29, 706 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,240 are moved from a medical centre to a secret rural location 707 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,840 where they are under constant supervision. 708 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,160 According to the lawyer, they have enjoyed ice cream Sundays, 709 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,960 topped with hot fudge. 710 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,240 They have been shopping, to restaurants, 711 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,440 they have their own bedrooms, wardrobes, and bathrooms. 712 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,520 And for the first time in their lives, 713 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,200 they also have the freedom to go outside. 714 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,720 You talk to the health professionals 715 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,320 that worked directly with these kids, 716 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,320 and they will tell you that they all had great attitudes. 717 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:34,280 You hear now the success stories, these kids are so receptive, 718 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:39,120 they're wonderful, good people and you can see the potential in them, 719 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,240 and now hopefully, the world will. 720 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,080 The younger children are being cared for by two foster families. 721 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,680 But in the long term, their relatives hope 722 00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:49,360 somehow to bring them home. 723 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,040 I want to adopt two of them. 724 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,760 The adults will, more than likely, 725 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,240 not be able to be adopted out, 726 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,760 because the adults are in a nice home, 727 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,600 that has been converted into kind of like apartments for them 728 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,800 which is probably very cool for them. 729 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,000 And that they are learning how to be adults, 730 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:15,040 learning how to be taking care of themselves, and be independent. 731 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,800 I want to adopt, 732 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,200 I'm interested in adopting at least three of the kids if I could. 733 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,160 I would love to take in three. 734 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,720 I feel like I could do that financially fine. 735 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,040 So, I feel like if I could get three of the kids, 736 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,640 I would love to and try to help in any way I can. 737 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,920 Their parents, Louise and David, 738 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,960 face a lifetime behind bars if convicted of the charges. 739 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,560 The only way they can contact the children now 740 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,400 is through their lawyers. 741 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:48,560 We are not planning to and will not try our case in the media out here. 742 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,600 Our case, whatever it may be, 743 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,600 is going to be tried and heard in the courtroom. 744 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,440 Both David and Louise Turpin have pleaded not guilty 745 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,840 to all the charges against them, 746 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,200 including 12 kinds of torture, 747 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:07,320 12 counts of false imprisonment, 748 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,680 nine counts of child abuse and endangerment, 749 00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:13,360 seven counts of cruelty to an adult dependent. 750 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,040 David Turpin is separately charged with 751 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,240 one count of a lewd act on a child under the age of 14. 752 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,320 Louise Turpin is separately charged with 753 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,240 one count of assault with force, 754 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,560 likely to produce great bodily injury. 755 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,440 What we would like to have the public know is that our clients are 756 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,760 presumed to be innocent. 757 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,600 They are presumed to be not guilty. 758 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,800 We are going to provide a vigorous defence. 759 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,360 No trial date has yet been set. 760 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,760 Louise Turpin's sister Theresa is torn between 761 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,920 what her sibling was and what she may have turned into. 762 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,520 I hate who she's become. 763 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,320 And I absolutely hate her ways in every way. 764 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,120 I hate her beliefs, I hate who she's become. 765 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,680 I love the sister that left home when I was three. 766 00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:08,800 As for the children, Theresa believes 767 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,720 life will be an emotional roller-coaster, 768 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,120 but in the end, they will survive. 769 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,080 I think they'll be happy. 770 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,120 They'll have fun times and they'll have 771 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,800 times that they're emotional and upset over, you know, 772 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,120 things that come back to that memory. 773 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,680 I think they'll be OK. 774 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:35,320 I think they'll be OK. I think with the right people, the right love, 775 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:40,640 I think they'll be OK. I don't think that they'll ever get back 776 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,560 time that they should've had, but they'll OK. They're loved. 777 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,800 Subtitles by Red Bee Media 65609

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