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Bra and underpants.

Do we have enough to charge her?

Still establishing motive.

She's not denying it.

Well, she hasn't asked to see her lawyer either,

so I see that as a reason for doubt.

Well, I'll apply for holding extension, but you've got

to get me something soon.

Understood. Thanks.

Sorry, what?

If it was an accident,

she'd be talking by now, right?

Look at her history.

If violence was her M.O., she had more motive

during the kidnap case.

By the way, do not drink coffee in my interview rooms.

It's a chocolate chai.

Don't drink chocolate chai in my interview rooms.

Can I ask why?

Control. A detective should only open their mouth during an interview

to ask questions.

What did she say to you?

Just... Just... Just before you left.

Oh, she said, "We were happy."

Two job offers, a swanky lunch invite

from a corporate speaking company,

phone calls, texts.

Well, you had me at swanky lunch.

Don't know if corporate speaking is really my thing, but nice

to be schmoozed, right?

Let's celebrate.

All right. If you take that out first.

Even Atly nominees have got to do their chores, babe.

Lucy, don't take his food.

I didn't!

Hey, Ben, can you say "apple"?

Apple?

That good? Lucy, eat, please.

How's that champagne coming, babe?

I'm getting thirsty.

Sorry.

One of my sources got the wobblies, so...

I'll have to go out and meet with them for a couple of hours.

Oh, OK. I'll be back. Duty calls.

Did she hurt the baby?

Strong heartbeat.

Contractions have stopped.

Can I see the screen, please?

Can you tell me the sex?

No.

How far along is she?

21 weeks.

How long do you need to keep her for?

She can go back to her cell.

It's a girl.

PHONE VIBRATES

In episode one of this podcast, Who Is The Monster?,

I examine events in the notorious case of Agatha Fyfle.

But is Agatha a villain or a victim?

I shed new light on who the real monsters are in this story.

You'll hear from many people connected to the case,

but you won't hear from baby Ben's parents.

It felt important to include them,

and the door will remain open,

but so far my requests have been met with surprising aggression.

Get the fuck away from us, or I will not be responsible

for what happens next.

I am warning you!

That was the voice of Meghan Shaughnessy, threatening me

after I asked for an interview.

She banged violently on my car window and called the police,

who confirmed I'd broken no laws and let me go.

So instead, you will hear from Agatha's mother,

who lives a lonely life, shunned by her semi-rural community.

Do I have regrets?

Many.

I've made mistakes.

But you have to understand that, as a mother of a 16-year-old,

I believe we were doing the right thing

by adopting Agatha's baby out as a newborn.

Contact details for Sacred Pines Nursing Home.

Sacred Pine.

Oh, yes. Hello. My name's Lorelei.

I'm just calling in regards to one of your residents, Brother Bowler.

How can I help you?

Coffee.

This isn't a social visit.

What do you want?

I ploughed a lot of money into my business when I went out

on my own. And then bang!

Our affair hit the headlines.

That's not something I did.

Well, regardless, I lost my business.

I'm now working in rentals for someone else,

I'm 40 grand in arrears on this place. It's not fair.

You're not asking for 40 grand?

Well, why should I lose everything for some meaningless fling,

as you put it, while you become a star?

I'm not going to let you destroy my career.

I don't want to destroy your career.

All I want is compensation.

Yeah, $40,000?

Well, look at it as the commission I lost when you sold your house.

That sale should have been mine.

We have joint accounts.

I'm sure you'll figure it out, Jack.

Well, FYI, I've recorded this conversation.

So if I decide to give you the money, it'll be a one-off.

And if I ever hear from you again,

I'll take that to the police

and you'll be charged with blackmail.

And yes, I'll go down, but I'll take you with me.

The Atly Awards are soon.

I'll give you till then.

And if not, I'll sell it while your profile's at its highest.

I'll get the money either way.

Good morning, Minister.

Agatha Fyfle is fine.

What about the baby?

21 weeks means she has one week to terminate. Good.

So let's work out the best strategy for her and us both.

You find the father and have the prick charged. That's a priority.

Well, it seems to have been consensual.

If that's any consolation.

Women's prison, there's no such thing as consent.

It's an abuse of power, however you choose to slice it.

Assuming we'll treat this matter as highly sensitive

until it's resolved? The way the press are with Fyfle,

and with this new podcast, I'd say

treat it like a concealed land mine.

And for fuck's sake, don't step on it, Terry.

So now we're investigating who fathered the child.

We'll offer voluntary blood tests for matching, to eliminate

those who have nothing to hide.

Needless to say, this matter is not to be discussed with prisoners

or anyone outside this room.

Any breach will result in instant dismissal.

Who do you reckon it is?

Whoever it is better hope she doesn't agree to a blood test.

Guys, guys, please be careful. Come on.

Seriously, don't worry about it.

There's a backlash on socials already. People are hating on it.

Great, this podcast will go viral, you watch.

Jack's affair will come up again.

Yeah, that'll suck.

Why have you stopped telling me about your love life?

I haven't. It's just the chef messaging about tonight's menu.

No, no. You're a chronic oversharer.

And now nothing.

What's the big mystery?

PHONE VIBRATES

Simon?

You're not dating Simon?

I wanted to tell you.

I tried to tell you.

And then every time I went to, I just chickened out.

Simon's a player, Grace, you know that.

But he has been so beautiful to me.

So different.

Oh, my God.

I cannot believe that you have fallen for him.

You cheated on Jack one time.

Just forget about it and move on. OK? It's in the past.

Yeah, maybe for you, Grace.

You know that Simon's in love with me.

He told me that when Ben was missing.

He hasn't said that to me.

No. Why would he?

Look, I'm not...

..trying to...

It's just that if Simon can't be with me,

who is the next closest person?

Hello?

Babe?

Yeah, we're here.

You've got to stop seeing him.

Hey, I listened to the podcast on the way home.

OK?

Yeah. Yeah.

PHONE RINGS

Hello. Hi.

Is this Lorelei Kelly?

Yes, it is. Great.

Can I confirm that you're the creator of Who Is The Monster?

Yes, it's my podcast.

We'd love to talk to you about the idea of syndication

in our national newspaper.

Can I ask who's calling?

Yes, it's Di Brinks.

Actually, I'm the editor here at AMS.

How does it sound if we bring you in...?

He may be resting.

Brother Bowler?

Who's that?

I'll get them for you.

I'm Lorelei.

A voluntary reader. I've come to keep you company.

Lorelei.

That's a pretty name for a pretty girl.

The newspaper's gagging for the next ep.

They say everybody's obsessed with the Agatha story.

It's all happening so fast.

Yeah, because it started trending.

But they want to hear more from Meghan, so we've got

to get her to talk to me.

Or yell at me - works either way.

Honey, have you asked yourself if you should be hassling that family?

They've been through so much.

Yeah, I agree. This is going better than I ever dreamt.

Can't you just be happy for me?

Happy your obsessions are finally paying off?

OK, Marcus, talk to me when you have a podcast

on the home page of a national news site.

Yeah, I will.

Hello. Hi, mate. I'm just trying to find my racket.

Then I'll be good to go.

The kids are playing with it downstairs.

Yeah, I'm coming. I'm coming.

Morning.

Don't even start about Grace.

My feelings for her are genuine.

I don't care.

It's too complicated.

I can't believe that you would even go there. Come on.

You and Jack are happy.

I'm happy for you.

What happened between us won't come out.

Got it. Let's roll.

You ready?

What do you think?

See you. Bye. You warmed up?

Not yet. You? No, you better.

Why are you hiding your face?

All the kids are talking about you and Daddy.

What?

Zip up your back, please.

Luce, what do you mean?

CAR BEEPS

DIAL TONE

Hello?

Meghan, it's Lorelei Kelly here.

A daily newspaper is hosting my podcast on their home page.

And I'd like to give you another opportunity to talk

about what happened to Ben.

There's so much coverage now of Agatha's story.

It's ridiculous.

All it takes is some uni student with a microphone.

Who's that with Ben?

How do you do that every time? I don't understand it, it was so cute.

Simon said he spoke to you.

I was hoping you'd calm down.

You think I enjoyed you sending him around to persuade me?

I didn't send him. We haven't spoken about any

of that stuff for two years.

And now it's all back on the table because of you, Grace.

You're being unreasonable.

You're being really insensitive.

Just stop seeing him.

Stop seeing Simon.

And then we can pretend like none of this ever happened.

Simon's let go of all that.

Maybe you should, too.

You know, this is my chance to be happy.

OK.

Go, be happy with Simon.

As long as you're seeing him, though,

I don't want to see or hear from you.

Ben. Ben. Come on.

Come away from Auntie Grace.

Good morning, Agatha.

Governor. First of all, I'd just like to express my sincere

regret that an inappropriate liaison has occurred here.

Tell me who's responsible and I'll take care of it.

Plus, I'll ensure you get the best possible counselling.

I'm responsible.

No-one else.

The prison will arrange for a termination.

You'll be transferred to a women's hospital for the procedure.

I'm sure that you'll be very relieved to put all this behind you.

No.

I want this baby.

Agatha, you must realise that that is in no-one's best

interests, especially not the child's.

And think about how much you'll suffer once the baby

is removed, as it inevitably will be.

And when the other women find out about the pregnancy.

I can't guarantee your physical welfare, even in protection.

I'm going to be transferred.

I'm going to keep her with me at Jalala.

It's a fantasy.

If necessary, we can get a court order to force the matter.

I want to speak to my lawyer.

I have a right to speak to my lawyer.

You have to remember who you are.

It's my belief that Agatha Fyfle is not the monster.

Rather, she's been the victim of a monstrous system.

And as she sits in jail,

is still in its unforgiving grip.

This woman deserves only help and mercy from the justice system.

You said you couldn't get pregnant.

Don't let them do a blood test.

I'm not stupid. Then get rid of it. No.

Keep moving, Fyfle.

Prison authorities can't force you to terminate.

It's illegal.

He said they get a court order.

No, it'll fail.

But this is leverage to get you to minimum.

Raped by an officer.

We'll sue. No.

It wasn't rape.

OK.

So what do you want to do?

I want you to get me into the Mother and Child programme at Jalala.

Agatha, be realistic.

They're not going to let a convicted child killer into that programme.

Just get me to Jalala.

If you confided in me, I would have had more time to consider options.

I didn't want to tell anyone until it was too late for them to stop it.

Will you tell the judge now?

It's too risky.

She'll call an inquiry.

And if you claim it was consensual, there'll be media backlash on you.

Let's wait and hope for the best at sentencing.

Please get this to that podcaster.

If I send it from here, they'll confiscate it.

Let's go, Fyfle.

You know, they need you to say who the father is.

The governor wants to keep his job.

Well, if they guarantee me a transfer, I'll give them a name.

Understood.

I'll relay that. I have proof.

Jones, we need you to confess.

You're barking up the wrong tree, mate. She says she has proof.

If she does, you're better off confessing. The fuck I am.

Lights out, ladies.

Pass.

If anything happens to me, they'll know it was you.

No. See, I didn't find that proof

you said you had.

I found these.

And when I show them that you haven't

been having your medication, they will know why

you topped yourself.

Now, I think terminating is better than having that happen, don't you?

Fuck.

HE YELLS

Morning. Governor.

I need to speak to the minister, please.

It's urgent.

KNOCKING Yeah, yeah, I'll hold.

It's not a good time, Rocco.

It's about Jones.

I questioned Fyfle yesterday.

She implied he's the father.

Given what's happened, I thought you'd want to know. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah. Is she willing to make a formal statement?

Only if she's put into the mother and child programme in Jalala.

Yeah, yeah, I'm still... still waiting.

Is he OK? Jones.

He's got a fractured skull.

He's on life support. He's not expected to recover.

Jesus.

Were any prisoners involved?

The fall will be investigated. It was in a no-access area.

It looks like he may have been on some medication

that we don't know about. Just leave it with me, mate.

Rocco, why are you ignoring me? What have I done?

I don't know, you tell me.

Listen, I've put my neck out for you till now.

But I've got a career, kids to think about.

I'm under the microscope.

I can't afford to have any association with you.

You've got kids?

That's none of your business.

You know what the other inmates will do to me when they find out

I've slept with a screw, and I'm pregnant.

You're on your own.

Hey, Ben.

Ben.

What's Mummy holding?

OK. Just leave it.

Leave it alone for one second.

Stop.

OK.

What is Mummy holding?

Can you say "doggy"? Ben.

Ben, it's a doggy.

Dog. Please?

I requested a shower on my own.

You're not the only one who can request favours in this joint.

I don't know who ratted about the rice over my head,

but it wasn't me, and I didn't tell them you punched me either.

A smart decision.

I could be your friend, if you let me.

I'm not friends with child-murderers.

I haven't done anything to you. Why don't you just leave me alone?

I'm never going to leave you alone.

There's no rush.

You're going to be in here a really long time.

She punched me, she did it again.

I didn't fucking do it!

SHOUTING

I'm going to fucking kill you!

Agatha wrote to me, and I quickly arranged a visit,

only to be told on the day

that her visitation rights were revoked.

She said she was being bullied and punished.

Can a woman like Agatha ever be safe in a maximum security jail?

No! What is it?

The comments are mostly supporting Agatha, but now some Meghan fans

commented and it started a new thread.

I've got to delete them.

I don't understand why you're championing

this particular woman.

You don't have to understand.

What are you doing?

Just tidying.

Mummy, Mummy, look what I won.

Mummy, Mummy, look what I won.

Wow. Awesome, Luce!

Did you have a good party?

Balloon.

Did you just say "balloon"?

Did you just say "balloon"?

Oh, you're so clever.

Luce, give him the balloon.

Oh, you're such a good boy.

BEN CRIES

Luce!

Hey. What's going on?

Luce, I can't believe you did that.

Oh.

It does feel a little like you're asking me to profit

from my family's misfortune.

Not at all. Sure, people are fascinated.

It's about a man who overcomes a kidnapping,

holds on to his marriage and fires up his career.

It's actually inspiring.

So what kind of speaker fees are we talking?

We'd normally say ten.

But with the heat behind this podcast, we could offer you

20 grand a gig if you sign a three spot deal.

Let's do it. Fantastic.

Great, thank you. Thank you.

I'm loving the podcast.

Thank you.

How you doing?

If one more person mentions Agatha Fyfle,

I'm going to jump into the harbour.

Well, it's worth the lunch financially, at least.

I decided to take them up on three speaking gigs.

Easy money.

OK.

Right. Yeah.

How much?

Five grand a pop.

Cheers. Cheers.

I don't know about that one.

Look who I found on the doorstep.

Oh! Auntie Grace.

Lucy, sh. You'll wake the boys.

This is not as easy as it looks.

It doesn't look easy. I got that one. Did you?

She's doing very well.

Your sentencing hearing's on Monday.

This is your notice. She's kicking.

Terriers tackling coach Brent Scicluna awaits an internal

investigation regarding the matter of supplying cocaine to players.

Meanwhile, Jack Shaughnessy,

who broke the story a few months ago,

won the country's most prestigious journalism award last night.

Jack took home the top prize of excellence in journalism

at last night's Atly Awards ceremony in Darling Harbour.

Congratulations to Jack from all of us at TVAU.

Did you just get that text?

What text?

Sentencing hearing. Monday.

Yeah. Listen, you know,

once she's sentenced, it's all going to be over.

It'll be a fresh start.

We'll be free. Cashed up.

Since all three of my talks were sold out,

my speaking fee's just gone up to 20 grand a gig.

OK.

PHONE RINGS

Can I tell everyone at school that Daddy won a big award?

You can tell whoever you like.

Hey.

I have an idea.

What?

Let's stop and get a treat.

Should we get raspberry and cola, super-sized?

Yeah.

The public are behind Agatha.

There's still hope for her. Were you following us?

What I'm asking is that you don't

make a victim impact statement tomorrow.

Are you serious? Say nothing. Move! Move!

Shut up.

Give her a chance.

Please, Meghan! Go!

Hi, Karen, it's Meghan Shaughnessy.

Hey, can you talk?

Hi, Karen.

I've slept on it and I've decided that you're right.

You should do it.

The truth is, no-one wants to hear from me,

but they'll report every word you say.

It's stronger.

OK.

All stand.

Before sentencing, I will now hear victim impact statements.

Thank you, Your Honour.

I had decided not to speak today, but something made me understand

that we three need to speak for our children.

We need to be heard.

I am the lucky one.

My son Ben lived.

But Karen's Emily and Annette's Lizzie did not.

But with the strength that I have, because my son came back,

I stand here to say the lives of our children meant

something, mean something.

They weren't property to steal or newspaper fodder.

All three were fully formed,

thinking, feeling, children

that Agatha Fyfle felt entitled to kidnap and kill.

They were and still are...

..everything to us.

Perhaps her past traumas influenced her actions.

There are people with equal trauma who don't kidnap, who don't kill.

And so,

we can only believe that Agatha Fyfle deserves no leniency.

Quiet, please.

Would the accused please stand?

Although your psychiatric report concludes that you were no threat

to be housed in minimum security, there are many factors to consider.

After careful deliberation and having heard the victims' impact

statement, it is important that my decision reflects

the community's expectation of the punishment you deserve.

Agatha Fyfle,

I sentence you to 25 years with the recommendation

it be served in maximum security.

All stand.

INDISTINCT SHOUTS

BANGING

BUZZER

Commiserations on the sentence.

But seeing as we're stuck with each other,

I suggest that we try and cooperate.

I received the results of the investigation into Mr Jones's death

and the autopsy report.

While there was an open finding on the exact cause of his accident,

I took the precaution of asking for extra tests.

We discovered that you gave a blood sample

on the night that you were assaulted.

We used that sample as a match. You didn't get my consent.

The significant result is that Mr Jones

is not the father of your baby.

But perhaps you already knew that.

Wouldn't it be easier if he was?

I need a name, Agatha.

I'm sure that your lawyer

will appeal the sentence on the basis of your pregnancy.

You give me a name...

..and I'll support your appeal for a transfer to Jalala.

Rocco Osman.

You will find proof it was Mr Osman on one of these.

Two officers?

If you were in here, you'd do anything for protection too.

Did you want protection?

Or a baby?

I didn't know I could get pregnant.

That's the truth.

But I kept those in case they decided

to stop looking out for me one day.

So will you support my appeal?

Yes, I will.

But you're Agatha Fyfle.

It'll go all the way to the minister.

And she's not the kind to cut deals with the likes of you.

We can all breathe a sigh of relief. No more court.

At least justice was done. You acquitted yourself very well.

Hey. Oh, listen.

Give little Ben a kiss from Nanny when he wakes up.

Yes, will do. You going with Daddy?

Yeah, coming for a ride. OK.

I'm assuming things are finished with Simon.

I need to speak with you.

OK. Shoot.

I did a DNA test on Ben.

What?

When? You knew he was Simon's.

That's why you don't want him around.

Because you're terrified it's going to come out.

This is not your family, Grace.

You have no right to interfere.

I'm giving you the opportunity to tell Simon first.

Grace.

Grace.

You can't... You can't do this to me.

We're happy.

Jack is happy.

Ben is happy.

OK. Look, I will...

I will back off about you and Simon, OK?

You can have some kids of your own.

Grace, don't ruin our life.

If you won't tell him, I will. Give that to me.

No, I gave you the opportunity.

Grace!

We know there was a conflict.

We have growing evidence of a motive.

You should know by not talking to us, it will be viewed

as uncooperative.

And should it go to trial,

that may be perceived as a sign of guilt.

So if it was an accident, Meghan,

you have nothing to lose by making a voluntary statement.

I want to speak to a lawyer.