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Her family
hasn't heard from her.

Authorities don't
have any new leads.

[reporter 2] State police say

they're gonna
continue searching

as long as necessary
for her.

[interviewer on tape]

The girl's body was found
just a short distance
after this growth.

[Marlene] If the police
would have listened to me.

none of this
would have ever happened.

I hear I'm the only
frickin' survivor!

[narrator] In the wooded heart
of Central Oregon

there's a road that winds
through the pine-studded
mountains,

Highway 20.

Picturesque and striking.

Many find comfort here.

But across three decades

hiding in plain sight

a predator...

hunts this trail.

Some still
think of this monster,

dragging away the innocent
like prey,

from all that they knew.

But others
think of the victims,

who they could have become

if anyone
had stopped to listen,

to see them.

For only the woods,

their witnessed
all the lost women.

[Noelle]
I'm a long-time reporter
in Oregon,

covering crime.

The editor of The Oregonian
came over to my desk one day

and said, "I have a story
I wanna talk to you about.

"Uh, it's about
a serial killer."

There's a cluster
of missing girl cases,

you know, unsolved cases,
cold cases,

on and around Highway 20,

a coast-to-coast highway.

It starts in Boston
and ends in Newport, Oregon.

It was very intriguing.

Who is this guy?

How have we
never heard about him?

And who are these women?

I thought, "Well,
I'm gonna start

"with the unsolved
disappearance

"of this young girl,
Rachanda Pickle."

[phone ringing]

[man speaking]

[woman speaking]

[narrator]
On July 10th, 13-year-old
Rachanda Lea Pickle

disappeared from her home

near the State Highway
division maintenance complex

just west of Santiam Pass.

She was reported
missing on the 11th.

[Byron Pickle]
Santiam Junction,
I think the best way

to describe it would be
put five maybe six houses

with a few people living in

camp trailers out in
the middle of nowhere...

and make a community
out of it.

If someone wants to
look on the map,
look at where Highway 20

and where Highway 22 meet,

and that's where
the Santiam Junction is.

We're probably about
23, maybe 26, miles

from Sisters, Oregon,
which was the nearest town.

Forty-five, to 48 miles
from Sweet Home,

where we went to
elementary school at.

My sister and I,
we were definitely close
at a very young age.

We were up there
at the Junction,
there was no one else.

It was us against the world.

And then, have you seen
one of these?

-[Michelle Seiber]
It's been a long time.
-Yeah.

I was in, um, third grade,
when I met Rachanda

at school.

I remember that day.

She looked exactly
like Punky Brewster.

She did.

Literally the first day

on the playground
I've seen her,

we clicked.

[Byron] Before the word diva,
I would express her now

definitely as a diva,
as somebody who was
into the latest fashion

pop music and stuff.

[Michelle] Hair style
never changed.

It was always
in a little floof,

dangly earrings,

the '90s bangs, um...

the bigger they are,
the better they are.

[Byron] And goofy.
she was funny.

I mean she was like,
truly, truly funny.

She was just a goofball.

[Jennifer Persinger]
She would make me
laugh until I cried.

And she'll do
another little thing

and set me off again.

Start laughing my butt off.

She could be friends
with anybody at school.

Being so little
and just having such that

presence about her,
you know...

[sobs]

Excuse me.

[Byron] On July 10th,
I remember getting a call
from my mom, you know,

"Hey, has Rachanda
gotten ahold of you?

"Well, she's missing."

I'm like, "Well,
did you look for the note?"

'Cause we'd always leave notes
and stuff, ju-- if, you know--
around in the case that

Mom or my stepfather,
John, came home.

"No, there's no note."

I'm like, "Did you go look
for her BB gun?

"Maybe she's out
shooting her BB gun."

"No, her BB gun's here."

So, it-- it just
didn't make sense.

I was trying to
rationalize stuff, you know.

I knew that
she wouldn't go off
in the woods alone by herself

Rachanda found the woods
very scary and intimidating.

'Cause the Junction is out
in the middle of nowhere.

And then I was like,
"Well, did you call the cops?"

"They say we got to
wait 24 hours."

The morning of July 11th

is when my mom
called the law enforcement.

[woman speaking]

[Linda speaking]

[Jennifer] My aunt Linda
married Steve Pickle

and she had two kids with him,

Rachanda and Byron.

There's a picture there
of my mom

with my dad Steve, with me,

and I'm, you know,
I'm looking at them now,
and I'm like,

"Oh, my gosh,
you guys were babies,

"having babies." I mean...

Holey-moley,
they were just so young.

My mom had to be
either 18 or 19 in the picture

and my dad
had to be 20 or 21, maybe.

They definitely did not
get along well.

I mean,
my parents, both of them

were very vindictive
to each other.

As kids, we were definitely
used as their little pawns.

And of course, my mom
would always remind me

how much I did look
like my dad, Steve, so.

[Jennifer] They got divorced.

Linda was struggling
to make it on one income.

I think I was seven years old,

when my mom and John
first got together.

John was a mechanic

for the State
Highway Department.

We grew up there
in the Sweet Home area.

John was my favorite uncle.

John would actually
make you feel

special.

My 16th birthday,
John and I, we went to Arby's,

and I must have had
four roast beef and cheddars.

After that,
we went to the drive-in

And he gave me $50.

That was really nice.

A fun-- fun day.

My mom asked my sister and I

to come talk with her
and John.

And they asked what we think
about moving to the Junction.

And at that point, I was like,
"Oh, this is getting serious."

Rachanda was six,

I think, when
Linda married John.

Linda ended up quitting her
second job

'cause John was so well off.

[Byron] From where we were at
to where he was at,

I mean, it was believed
some balance financially.

I remember the first time
that he pulled $5

out of his wallet
and handed us,

I was like--
That was the most cash

I've ever had in my hands
at that point in time.

I felt like, I mean...

That might as well
have been a Benjamin.

Some of the people
in the family

couldn't even read
or write well.

And then you have this guy
who graduated high school

He had a great career,
a previous military guy.

This guy was my dad.

Taught me how to hunt.
Taught me how to fish.

Actually spent time with me

Definitely heavy-handed,
but he was a good dad.

You know, my dad, Steve,
wasn't around.

I knew who he was,

but really didn't get to know
who he was.

[horn honking]

It was 1990,
during the spring time.

I'm 14, Rachanda is 13.

I can't remember
if I came up with it
or it was Rachanda's idea,,

we wanted to get know
our biological father.

We called up,
my grandmother

on the phone,
with the pay phone,

put the quarter in
and called her and said,

"Hey, I wanted to go
spend the summer with my dad.

"Do you have his phone number,
so I can give him a call?"

My mom was like,
"Absolutely not.

"Why would you even
wanna go see that guy?"

I really wanted to know
who he was

so I could form
my own opinion.

My dad came
and picked us up
from the Junction.

We had the windows open,
you know,
standing by and stuff.

And my stepfather,
John, came up.

Looked at me,
put his finger right at me.

He's like,
"You remember
what I told you."

I was like,
"Yeah, I remember
what you told me."

Never to leave
my sister Rachanda alone

with our biological father,
Steve Pickle.

[Jennifer] Members
of my family
kept their distance

at an arm's length
from Steven.

You give Steve an inch,
he'll take a mile.

And that's saying it loosely.

[Byron] We drove to Medford.

Big change
from Santiam Junction.

Steve was living in
a manufactured home park.

But the awesome thing about it
was it had the tennis court,

it had the basketball court,
it had the swimming pool.

Had tons of kids
to play with and stuff
that were our own age.

We ended up
having a blast.

There was a big field
with that tall grass
and stuff.

So we were gonna go play
hide and seek with a bunch
of other boys and girls.

But my dad thought
it was a ruse, you know,
to go have sex.

[chuckles] That's taking
a big jump, man.

Looking back,
I think my dad had
some mental illness problems.

Everything was sexual
with my dad.
Everything was sexual.

That was not even
a thought to me.

Having sex
at that point, I just--

You know, they were just kids.

Then he started
screaming at Rachanda,

which made her cry.

I mean, you got
your biological father
basically calling you a whore.

And she was like,
"I wanna go home."

She never wanted
to see Steve Pickle again.

My sister went back.

And I stayed there.

in Medford,

with my dad, Steve.

'Cause I figured
it was just only about
a week or two

and then we were
gonna see each other again.

I wanted to give her a hug
but she was already
in the back of the truck

and I didn't wanna call her
back out of there.

Rachanda came back
because her dad was asking her
inappropriate innuendos.

And I said, "Like what?"

And she said,
"I don't wanna talk about it."

My aunt married
a pedophile.

She didn't know.

I never said anything
about the sexual assault

from...

Steve Pickle.

But it happened

numerous times.

I didn't say anything
because...

who would believe
a little girl?

Well, that next morning,
Linda came down

to pick up Rachanda.

And she took Rachanda
up to the Santiam junction.

I waved at her.

And I told her,
"I will see you
next weekend."

[Michelle] We were
in a foster home.

And we were
summoned into the house.

And detectives were asking
if we'd heard from Rachanda.

[Mandy] Your friend
Rachanda's gone missing.

I'm like, "What?"

Like, it just--
It was like a kick
in the stomach.

I'm like, "Missing?
What do you mean missing?"

"Do you know where she is?"

"Have you guys had
any contact with her?"

We're like, "No."

They thought we might have
something to do with it

because we ran away so much.

Maybe that she'd found
her way to us.

[Mandy] "Do you think
she could have run away?"

"No, she's not
gonna run away."

Where was she gonna go?

She lived in the middle
of a mountain.

There's nowhere to go.

[Michelle] We knew
something must have
happened to her.

[Mike] I get quiet

until, you know,
I cross over
the mountain limits.

It's just a dark place
along Highway 20.

[narrator] Rachanda
has been missing for 24 hours.

Her disappearance
spurs people to action.

They just hope
it isn't too late.

[Mike] The day
she goes missing,

Rachanda had been at home

with her mom
and stepdad, John Ackroyd.

Linda and John
had left to go work.

Byron was
not home at the time.

[Noelle] Rachanda
is told by her mother

"Please, you know,
empty the dishwasher,

"vacuum, and take out
the frozen hot dogs
for dinner."

[Mike] John
picked up Linda.

And they came back home.

And Rachanda
was not home.

They started getting
a little bit concerned
about 10:00, that night.

They believed that
they had to wait 24 hours
to report her missing,

so they waited
until the next day to call.

You're just going through

all those basic who, what,
where, when, why,
how questions.

"Did she have
any friends in the area?"

"Was she unhappy?"

You wanna kinda check out

what the general
family dynamic is.

She's a young girl.
I'm a dad of four daughters.

When I looked
at the pictures
of her bedroom,

nothing was missing.

Her brush,
all of her, you know,
hygiene products,

were still in the room.

If a 13-year-old's gonna
run away from home,

she's gonna take
her stuff with her.

[reporter] Her mom, Linda,
was also convinced

she didn't run away
from her home
in Santiam Junction.

Rachanda is a very
responsible little girl.

She wouldn't go
wandering out
by herself.

Usually, if she goes off
it's with her brother, Byron.

[Noelle] Byron
turns to his father,
Steven Pickle,

and says,
"I gotta go back there.

"You know, we gotta go
look for her."

And the father is like,
"No, we're gonna see
how this plays out."

And, you know, Byron,
all of 14,

is like, "No,
I'm not gonna do that."

You know,
"Something is wrong."

[reporter] The search area
covers 50 square miles

of rugged, wooded country
near the Hoodoo Ski Area.

This morning,
search and rescue teams

from seven different
counties were here,

to find the teenager.

Everybody was convening
at the shop office.

And some were all like,
"Well, I mean,
where should we go look?

"We should start searching."

[Jennifer] There is
umpteen million people
searching

John was the head
of the search team.

He was telling
all the searchers
where to go.

If anybody knows this area,
Ackroyd knows this area.

Stand forward!

John was the greatest
resource that we had.

This was in his backyard.

John knew those woods
very well.

Probably one
of the most extensive searches

in Linn County history.

[officer] We're gonna go up
to the end of the road,

Linn County is gonna
take one side,
we're gonna take the other.

About 10-15 feet apart.

Then we'll
come back down here.

[Mike] There was
multiple agencies.

Multiple man hours
searching for her.

Everywhere.

[Byron] My mom was convinced
that somebody
kidnapped Rachanda.

Somebody parked
on the highway and came down,

see Rachanda,
chance of opportunity,
snagged her.

And that was the only thing
that did make sense.

People were accusing others

over the disappearance
of Rachanda.

yeah, if you're out there,
Rachanda,
at least call your mother.

Let 'em know
you're alive.

We love you and miss you
very much.

The family situation
wasn't good.

It was a very
dysfunctional situation.

[John speaking]

[Byron] So, we
go talk to John

and he's emotionally
distraught.

I see tears up in his eyes.

and the first thing
that comes out
of his mouth is,

"I'mma kill the son of a bitch
who did this."

[narrator] As they
search for Rachanda,

Hope turns to resignation.

What they don't know is,

that the rot
is more than a decade old.

Just a few miles away,
in Camp Sherman,

the monster
has taken another.

[Gary] It was
a summer's day.

And I was down here,
working at the store.

The news was on.

[reporter] She's been missing
for a week now.

Her family
hasn't heard from her,

authorities don't have
any new leads.

So, searchers
are resigned to the fact

that they aren't going
to find any good news here.

[Gary] I wasn't really
paying attention.

And then,
on the news on TV,

I hear this voice saying that,

"I was the last one
to see her alive."

Same tone, same inflection,
same everything.

And I thought, "Holy smoke.

"I know that voice."

And it's just like
Christmas Eve
of '78.

And I hollered at Chrissy,
I said, "That son-of-a-bitch
did it again."

[reporter] She went for a jog.
Kaye Turner never returned.

[Gary] When I said,
you know, to Chrissy,

"The son-of-a-bitch
did it again,"

I was angry.

We knew the guy
that did it

because everybody
knew about the murder,

back in '78.

Because he got away with it.

So...

Camp Sherman is
a vacation-type
resort community,

along Highway 20.

We came in '78.

Such an idyllic spot.

I mean, it's almost
rainbows and unicorns.

I mean, it's that
perfect a place.

The type
that there's just one store.

Back then, we were the pulse
if you need to know
what's going on.

And when people were lonely,

or had cabin fever,

they'd head to the store.

So, we see everybody.

So, the penny candy's
always been here.

The folks that had
the store before us
had penny candy,

we have penny candy.

Now these are charge accounts.

Most all of these
are summer home people.

But there are locals, too.

And when they'll come
for a weekend, or a week,

rather than pay each time,
we run a tab.

Who else does
charge accounts anymore?

The store
was a gathering point.

It's just a perfect
place to grow up,

perfect place
to raise your family.

You know, and up until
the incident, super safe.

You know, so...

[reporter] Christmas Eve
morning, 1978.

35-year-old Kaye turner
of Eugene

was vacationing
in this cabin
at Camp Sherman, Oregon.

She went for a jog
on this road.

Kaye Turner
never returned.

Christmas Eve
started out
foggy and cold.

And then the sun came out
and it was super warm.

So, I got up,
we opened the store.

I just walked through
and Chrissy's
talking to this guy.

And I came in and she said,
"Did you find her yet?"

And he said, "No."

And I said--
The way he said "no",
I said--

I asked him,
"So, what kind of dog
did you lose?"

And he said,
"Oh, no, I lost my wife."

I said...

"Whoa!"

"When'd you last see her?"

He said, "Oh,
between 8:00 and 8:30."

I said, "Oh, my God."

He was from Eugene,
he was new to the area.

Didn't really know
anybody here.

We didn't have
a search and rescue team
in Camp Sherman, at all.

We just never had to have one.

So, I said, "Well,
let me just take a drive."

I just hopped in the Reagan,

made a quick loop,

expecting to find a gal
with an injured ankle.

I never once
suspected foul play.

It never even entered my mind.

This is Camp Sherman.
Nobody dies in Camp Sherman.

[Ardith] Her husband,
Noel, called.

And then-- And it was
a short conversation.

He wanted to know

if Kaye would be likely,
when we were running together,

to head off into the trees.

"She always
stayed on the road.

"She never went bounding off

"into the trees.

"If she went out to run
and she hasn't come back,

"somebody's grabbed her."

I'm sure those were
almost my exact words.

I think,
by the time we hung up,

I was already crying.

[Gary] I called
Jefferson County.

Just told 'em
we had a missing jogger.

And, you know,
"What should we do?"

'Cause we never had
that happen before.

And they said, "Well,
get some people together,
we'll be right over."

"Okay."

To kinda show
what community it is,

I made three calls
or four calls,

and yet 15 or 20
four-wheel drives

were in my parking lot
in 20 minutes.

Christmas Eve.

Some people left diner
to come right over.

[Mark] There was
no law enforcement
in Camp Sherman, at the time.

Because the statistics,
the crimes,

didn't add up

[Gary] We wasted
an hour or so of daylight.

But we were told to wait.

And so they got here
and they said, "Okay,
so what do you want us to do?

"We'll just fan out
and drive the roads."

We could have done that
in daylight.

[searcher] Kaye!

[Gary] We went until
about-- I think about
1:00 or 2:00 in the morning.

So, it was--
Yeah, it was a difficult--
Difficult time.

the next day, my husband and I
went up and participated
in the search.

I remember
calling out her name.

Now wanting to find
what we were looking for.

You didn't wanna
find a body.

But at the same time,
you wanted to.

So, it was just...

push-pull.

It was so surreal.

[Gary] The police set up
a command center

in the restaurant
across the river.

[Ardith] At that time,
I remember thinking

everything was
so disorganized.

People were just taking off
in the woods.

And every woods
looks the same.

It was just chaos.

I stayed away
from the command center,
completely.

because it was chaos.

And it wasn't even
organized chaos.
It was just a mess.

"Well, let's do this."

"Well, I know
she must be there."

It was like this, you know.

It was nuts.

Well, the initial thinking
of the initial deputies

who were on that scene,

is that Noel,
Kaye Turner's husband,

did her in
and just dumped her
in the woods.

[Noelle] As far
as they were concerned,

the husband
was the last person
to see her,

there were signs
that the marriage
was on the rocks.

[Mark] And they spent
a lot of time
not searching for her

but questioning him,

expecting he would crack.

They thought
that he's come out
to some small community

to do his dirty work.

Figuring that
nobody'd catch him that way.

[Noel] I met Kaye in college.

We both finished school
in 1966.

And decided we would--
we'd get married.

We moved to, uh, Eugene.

Kaye grew as a person

as she transitioned
from having taught high school

into becoming
an interim director

of the Planned Parenthood
facility in Eugene.

We met because she was
the director
of Planned Parenthood.

and I was in charge
of family planning
for the county.

So we worked closely together.

Everybody knew
who Kaye Turner was,
it seemed like.

You know, she was independent.

She was a feminist.

As though she cared--

But she didn't act like
she cared
what other people thought.

She had kind of
a Princess Diana
quality about her.

She was like a butterfly

when she kind of--

I'm coming up
with all these things.

I never thought
of her that way, but...

people really were
attracted to her.

Eugene was really the center
of this new movement
around running.

And she was infected by that.

It was almost
like a lifestyle to her.

She was running in--
in marathons, in races, and...

was really a serious runner.

Nike had just come out
with its first
running show for women.

And she had a pair.

[Ardith] Kaye and I ran,
the two of us, a lot.

I didn't think
I could ever run on my own,
without stopping.

And she did.

So, i decided,
"Well, if she can do it,
I can do it."

She was my mentor, I guess.

[Noel] We were real busy
in our respective
work environments.

There were--

There were areas
where we should have
communicated better

with one another
instead of maybe assuming

that we were on the same page.

Investigators find,
in her office, her calendar.

Which showed that Kaye
had relationships
outside of her marriage.

It was a surprise to Noel
when investigators told him.

He was aware
that she was unhappy.

But unaware
that she was, um...

You know, that she was
seeing men outside of their--
of their marriage.

[Noel] And they asked me
if I'd take a polygraph test.

I didn't have
any qualms about doing it.

But it was not a--
a comfortable experience.

[Ardith] I mean,
I guess they have to do that

'cause it's always
the husband and the wife

or the--

He's so unlike...

I don't know
what the typical killer
is, but...

You know, Noel is one
of the gentlest men
I've ever known.

[Noelle] He passed.

There was nothing
that linked him
to his wife's disappearance.

And the case
just kind of didn't really--
Didn't really go anywhere.

Not only had
no suspect emerged,

they still had no idea
what had happened to Kaye.

It was like
she just vanished.

[Noel] Sometime
in the week
after Christmas,

it was a feeling
of hopelessness

for everybody that was
participating in it to...

to come to that conclusion.

That they'd...

...gone over that area
as much as they...

...thought they could have.
Um...

When you've...
You know, you gotta...

You gotta stop

stop doing this at some point.

And...

And so...

And I-- I don't remember
who said-- talked to me.

And they said...

"Until you leave...

[sobbing]

"none of these people
are gonna leave."

So, then... [clears throat]

Then shortly after that,

I said, "Well,
I gotta go home."

[Noelle] Months pass.

There are no suspects.

You got the sense
from the friends

that there was
this kind of frustration

about the scope and scale
of the search.

[man 1] This area
was searched
once before, wasn't it?

[man 2] Parts of it was.

And other parts
weren't searched hard enough.

And we wanna see...
We wanna look at it
another time.

We were getting frustrated
'cause we know
something must have happened.

So, we thought
about a reward

to kinda jumpstart
the situation.

[Noelle] Kaye's friends
put up a $1,000 reward.

Thinking that the suspect
would come out
to claim this reward.

And that's exactly
what happened.

[Gary] A few months later,
I'm doing
something in the back.

Chrissy says, "Gary,
there's a guy at the counter

"that wants to use the phones.

"Says that he found
some clothes in the woods."

And I said, "Okay."

So I went out.

He says, "I was out
rabbit-hunting with my dog,

"and I found some clothes
in the woods."

Well, that's a red flag to me
'cause there's really
no rabbits here.

And he says, "Well, I found
a pair of short, a shirt
and a sweatshirt."

And I say, "You know what?
Probably not our jogger.

"She didn't have
a sweatshirt."

And he just looked at me.

He didn't say a word,
he just looked at me.

So I called
the State Police.

And I said, "Hey,
we got a guy here
that found some clothing."

"He says, "I wonder if I get
any reward for this."

And I say something like,
"Well, it's just clothes,

"you know. No."

So I'm filling up
this propane tank
behind the store,

and Chrissy comes back

and tells me, "Gary,
this guy just told me he was

"the last one
to see Kaye Turner alive."

So I didn't even talk to him.

I went back to the phone,
I called the cops
and I said,

"Would it make
any difference to you folks

"if I told you he just said
he was the last one
to see her alive."

They said, "We're sending
more people."

[siren blaring]

Boom.

Who says something like that?

The guy that killed her.

Right?

The last one
to see her alive.

[narrator] If a tree
falls in the woods,
an no one hears it,

does it make a sound?

The real question is

What does it mean
to exist?

To be seen?

If the tree is a woman,
like Kaye Turner,

and she screams,

does her voice matter?

Sometimes, a fallen tree
can tell the story
of what happened.

But it can also
be a warning
of what will happen again.

And in 1990, Santiam Junction,

that is exactly the case
with Rachanda Pickle.

[reporter] Even with
all the manpower,

authorities say
there is just too much
ground to cover here.

They think Rachanda
met with foul play

Her family
hasn't heard from her.

Authorities
don't have any new leads.

So, searchers
are resigned to the fact

that they aren't going
to find any good news here.

[Byron] It was horrible,

knowing how she'd
get homesick, you know.

And how dependent
she was upon my mom.

I knew...

I knew something bad happened.

As bad as it sounds,
I was hoping she got kidnapped
and we would find her.

[Mike] You are
hoping for the best,
like, "Oh, she's lost."

But mentally, a detective's
preparing himself
for worst-case scenario.

Especially if we don't find
the child within 48 hours.

Especially up in the woods...

[Mark] The statistics show
that 88% of the time

the victim knows
their assailant.

So, you look at people
closest around someone

when they disappear.

[Mike] Sometimes it may be
offensive to parents

when we ask
some of the questions we have

but, you know,
the parents were
the last one to see 'em.

We gotta ask
certain questions

to rule them out
and move on,

or to other people.

We interviewed many people,

including Rachanda's mother,
Linda Ackroyd.

[tape clicks]

[officer speaking]

[Linda speaking]

[Mark] I felt like
Linda was just...

laying out what she knew.

And she was very pen
and forthright.

I don't think
she was lying about it.

I think she just
really didn't know
what happened.

[John speaking]

[officer speaking]

[Noelle] Some people
in the family thought

maybe Steven Pickle
was to blame.

We know, from court records,

he had sexually abused
another child.

Children are not safe
in his care.

His own daughter
didn't feel safe
in his care.

Well, that's kind of
what I thought Rachanda
was running away from.

[Steve speaking]

He was not in the area
during the time in which
Rachanda went missing.

He was in Medford,
a long ways away,

with his son.

But John could not
account for his time.

[John speaking]

Well, she thought that I did
something to Channy

I loved Chandy.
I did not do nothin' to Channy.