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Come on, Jake.
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- Yeah. We're waiting for it.
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-Hey.
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"Please welcome
to the floor for the first time
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as defendant and plaintiff..."
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Would you even hire you?
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Leaky barrels
all around here filled with chemicals.
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Check this out.
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- What is it?
- I don't know.
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There's no labels.
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This was the most tense day ever.
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- Oh. Leading into...
- Yes.
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Like, the--getting into the deliberations,
because we had to vote a certain way,
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it had to be a magic number
at the right time, and--
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oh, my gosh.
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And then also just, like,
discussing in a heated way.
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So it's like all these other times,
we have these silly, funny beats.
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This was the more serious day,
you know what I mean?
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There wasn't, like,
goofy stuff going on really.
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It was just get to the meat of the case.
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And also,
to your guys' credit, you guys,
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at this point,
two and a half weeks in,
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had created and committed so much
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-to who you guys were as characters...
- Right.
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...and the real experiences
you had with Ronald,
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you had to be true to--
it was one of those things...
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- Yeah.
- ...where it's like,
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we had a plan for the end, but you forgot,
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you--we had to account for everything
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-that had happened up until then.
- Right.
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And you guys had to be true to that.
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Who did you become, yeah.
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Because I remember,
even like, you know, Susan,
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she was supposed to vote
for Jacqui, and she was like...
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- There's no way.
- ...I can't do it.
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- Yeah.
- Like, I won't do it.
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Like, that won't--
that'll feel false to Ronald...
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- Yeah.
- ...by this point.
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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And she kind of had to take that half...
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- Yeah.
- ...vote, right?
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But, like, I remember, at first,
it was like, "What do you mean?
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Like, this is what
we have to do," and then...
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- Yeah.
- ...it was like,
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"Oh, she's right.
She's been living this..."
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Right.
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"...for two
and a half weeks." Like...
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- Right.
- ...we have to stay true
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-to the reality we've created...
- That's right. That's right.
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...as well, yeah.
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I know this is off-topic,
it just reminded me of seeing that room,
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this is pretty funny.
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It was the second or third day,
I was pulled into one of those, uh,
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side interview rooms with--
uh, I was waiting for Chris Darnell
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to get his camera in there,
and so I was just kind of walking
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around the room,
I was looking at everything in there,
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and I pulled out a book,
which was obviously a fake book.
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- And when Darnell got in there,
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I was--I made the comment,
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I was like,
"Dude, you guys got fake books?"
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I was like, I don't trust anybody here."
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- Jokingly. Just jokingly.
- Oh, right, right.
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But Darnell told me
after the fact, after the reel,
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he's, like, "Yeah, dude,
when you said that,
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I was sweating bullets."
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- Oh, my God.
- Oh, my God.
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Canceled. Uh, canceled.
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- I forgot about that.
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Done. Done, dead.
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I guess he called some bitch
sweetheart or something like that.
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- Ooh.
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- Good Lord.
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-Can't do that.
- Can't do that.
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- Great recovery.
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-Let's do this. Let's focus.
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Ah, to be--to be
given permission to just be so bad.
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- So much fun.
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...on opposite sides of the fence.
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The judge did confirm yesterday
that it has to be unanimous, so...
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That was my--that was
my biggest fear going into this,
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I was like, "God, please don't be
a unanimous vote," you know?
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What did you expect
heading into the deliberation
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of where people would be,
before they voted and you knew?
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Did you have a sense
for where you thought people would be?
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No, this--I've--
I'd summarized it perfectly here.
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I had absolutely no idea.
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I didn't know
how I was gonna start with this,
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I didn't know
what people were thinking, no clue.
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-I don't know.
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That's--nailed it.
I had no idea.
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Were you stressing out?
Were you sweating here,
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thinking about your obligation
as foreperson?
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A little bit, yeah,
because--and I say it perfectly that--um,
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Noah as well, too, like,
I wasn't trying to persuade
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anybody of anything,
so that's why I was so nervous, you know?
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...you told me
that you did not want to be foreman.
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Ken was the worst for me, man.
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-I couldn't take...
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...anytime he spoke
is when I was closest to busting.
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But then when he smiles,
I mean, isn't he the cutest?
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We love you, Ken.
We love you.
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Let me check everybody out.
Y'all made--Y'all snapped out.
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You know what I'm saying?
'Cause y'all a reflection of...
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I'm glad
she recognized you, Vanessa, too,
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because I was like,
that does look good on you.
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- Hey.
- And I remember telling you
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that, too, I was like, "You look good."
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- Come on.
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- Put on my deliberation shirt.
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If it is not, you're gonna keep voting
until y'all can get to a unanimous vote.
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Knock yourselves out. Trust yourself...
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- Oh, boy.
- Yeah, yeah.
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This is another funny thing, too,
which was just about, like, the producers
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and how much work you guys did
in finding the right person for this
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because, like, you don't have
to have a unanimous vote on a civil case.
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But people who don't know law
don't know that.
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-You know?
-Interesting.
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That's why I'm nervous about this.
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I just wanna hear
what other people have to say
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honestly before I...make a decision.
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- Yeah.
- I don't know, man.
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I'm also new.
I don't know what I'm doing, man.
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-Classic Joe Dirt.
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-It's gonna be one of them days.
- Is that a Joe Dirt line?
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Yeah.
"I'm new, I don't know what I'm doing."
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I love Joe Dirt.
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I didn't pick that up.
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...because I'm not on the jury,
technically, so I can kind of zone out.
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- That eye mask.
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This was so much fun for me
because I'm not on the jury
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and I'm clearly annoyed that I can't
be part of the deliberation process.
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I'm trying to think
of all the obnoxious things
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that I can do in the room with the props.
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We do, uh,
something to show what we're thinking.
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This is essentially
just like us taking a vote right now.
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Just gauging how everybody feels.
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So how--which way--
which way are we leaning?
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What's everybody feeling?
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Ronald,
you did a really good job of,
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like, also, again, the reality
of everyone being in the jury room
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for the previous two and a half weeks
was a lot of boring downtime.
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A lot of people
sitting in the corner reading magazines,
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or working out, or whatever it was,
and then you kinda had to be like,
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"Okay, guys, let's get to it." This is...
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- Yeah.
- ...our only job.
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We all have to be here
and talk about this all day.
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And we did not know
if you'd come in with that.
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Like, when you started this conversation,
we actually had a plan.
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I forget who it was,
who was gonna start it
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and be like,
"Ronald, why don't you get up
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and lay out your thoughts
on the case and, like, get us going?"
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Yeah.
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And you did it without being asked,
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and we were all watching,
going," He's doing it."
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- It's perfect.
- "It's happening." Like...
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- Yeah, yeah.
- Perfect.
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...it's everything we hoped.
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-I don't think he's liable.
- Vanessa?
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Um, I do think he's liable.
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I agree with Ken.
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They said more likely than not.
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Well, at the moment,
it feels to me like they're both liable,
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which means...
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It's so tricky, because all
these debates needed to feel organic...
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- Real. Yeah.
- ...and, like, real--
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have real purpose
and cause behind each statement.
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- Yeah.
- Yes.
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Because the three hours
of debates that actually happened
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- had to feel like a real...
- Yeah.
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...like, you know what I mean?
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- Yeah.
- Like, yeah. Oh.
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This is from my favorite line.
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He's like 30 years
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-of face-reading and like--
- Yeah.
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-You know, it was just like...
- He's really...
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...you're thinking,
not thinking.
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...thinking, not thinking.
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-...thinking, not thinking.
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That it is--that is, yeah.
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By the way,
that is all promote in the moment.
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- Yes.
- Just going for it.
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-Damn near...
- So perfect.
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Pretty much half of us
are gonna have to change our mind.
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Yeah. What do you got, Todd?
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This might be helpful
for people that, um...
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- The visual demonstration.
- Yes.
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- Oh, my God.
-...differently. If this is...
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This was, like, one--
like, it was tough, too.
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Like, how do we plan jokes in here?
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This was one we could be like,
"Okay, let's put together a diorama
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over everything on the table.
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We could--we could plan this out."
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...the other place where the rings were.
This is just helpful.
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And give a shout out
to Bubly water.
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- Yeah, I was gonna say.
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- Bubly is fizzy.
- Coming in 12 great flavors.
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It goes great
with a pack of Cracker Jacks.
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This is brought to you by Bubly water.
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Oh, I hate how good you are.
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-Jake.
- This is heating up.
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You know,
if this directing thing doesn't work out,
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you got a real future in radio.
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- Yeah.
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- Radio. The future.
- Ronald, you are a comedian, bruh.
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- The future.
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Radio.
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He's being covered
with these shirts as they're coming out.
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Taking it so seriously.
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I loved everything
Todd was doing up until that point.
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I was like, "Okay, Todd, let's just..."
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- Let's wrap it up.
- Yeah.
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I mean, you started so strong.
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...this is--this is after Kirk
talks for, like, 45 minutes...
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...about running
a trucking company, which...
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Yes.
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...he never had mentioned before.
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I know.
He brought that out of nowhere.
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-I loved it.
- Yeah.
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-And he nailed it, too.
- Yeah, he did.
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Yeah. He didn't see that,
and he was like,
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"I'm going for it, right here."
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Oh, yeah, and I was like,
"This is a good point that he's making."
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Yeah. And truthfully, I mean,
yeah, that's a trucker right there.
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-Absolutely.
- Yeah.
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I would--I would believe that.
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Oh, yeah.
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Was there any
of these arguments, Ronald, that, like,
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you kind of--that was like,
"Yup, that gets me over the edge"?
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I mean, I know
you were kind of already there,
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but anything that helped you go,
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"This is how
we're gonna get through this"?
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God, I hate to admit it,
but it's what Kirk said...
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Yeah.
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...about owning a trucking company...
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Yeah.
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...literally though, because it's like,
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"Yeah, as an employer,
you are responsible, you know?"
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...and we're not supposed
to be talking about chemicals anyway.
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I will say
Kirk did Babe Ruth it a little bit then
240
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because before the scene, he goes,
241
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"I'll get him there
if he needs to get there.
242
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I'll get him. I got something.
I'll get him there."
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Nice.
244
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And then he--
and then he did it, yeah.
245
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...factory, we pointed out that there were
very clearly some barrels...
246
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Guys, I hate to admit it,
just because I hate to say
247
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I can't believe I didn't recognize Kirk,
you know?
248
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It drives me insane.
249
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Well, we were throwing enough
250
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other curveballs out in front of you
to try to distract you, I think.
251
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No, it is hard.
People can't even get on the same page...
252
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Plus, you haven't proven yourself
253
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to be someone who remembers actors anyway.
254
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Touché.
255
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And each position
was very consistently, uh...
256
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-...careless.
257
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So you're saying people can't change?
258
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He had many opportunities to change.
259
00:09:04,002 --> 00:09:05,545
And that was Ish kind of, like,
260
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Lonnie's job was always,
like, restate and support Ronald...
261
00:09:09,091 --> 00:09:10,133
- Right.
- ...in what he's saying,
262
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like, give him backup in the room
if he needs it.
263
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- Yup.
-I've been teaching for ten years
264
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and I know hundreds--
hundreds of Trevors.
265
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I thought that was gonna be
like, "Well, that's absurd."
266
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"I've known--I known hundreds of Trevors."
267
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"And every Trevor I've known
is like this."
268
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-...doing him a favor. That's all.
269
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Do you guys remember
how intense it was
270
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to get the vote at the right number?
271
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Do you remember that?
272
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Because the first time--it was like,
"What are you voting the first time?
273
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Lonnie,
what are you voting the first time?"
274
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And we had to, like,
do it the same, and then somebody,
275
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-like, voted different, I think?
- Yeah.
276
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And then it was like,
"Oh, God, we've ruined it.
277
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We've ruined the whole show."
278
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The sign spinning is another killer bit.
279
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- Right.
280
00:09:47,379 --> 00:09:49,214
...uh, emphysema.
281
00:09:49,298 --> 00:09:52,092
- Yeah, you really nailed that.
- Anything to stay busy.
282
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My favorite thing though is--uh,
283
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this is about self-love,
which is coming up.
284
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- Yeah.
- Right.
285
00:09:57,848 --> 00:10:00,559
I just love that the sign
spinning is a piece of court evidence.
286
00:10:00,642 --> 00:10:02,019
- Right.
287
00:10:02,102 --> 00:10:04,479
It's one of the Tweet--
it's one of the Tweet, uh, boards.
288
00:10:04,563 --> 00:10:05,397
I think people forget
289
00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,150
that that's, like, evidence number--
piece number 37 or whatever.
290
00:10:13,196 --> 00:10:16,366
Did the plaintiff
supply enough evidence...
291
00:10:16,450 --> 00:10:18,327
Here we go.
Bringing it home, bud.
292
00:10:18,410 --> 00:10:19,494
- Yeah.
- Yeah. Yeah.
293
00:10:19,578 --> 00:10:21,038
...that Trevor was negligent?
294
00:10:21,121 --> 00:10:23,707
Let's say we don't blame Trevor,
then who do we blame?
295
00:10:23,790 --> 00:10:25,000
-Somebody's responsible.
-Yeah.
296
00:10:25,083 --> 00:10:26,209
-The boss.
- Yes. Yes.
297
00:10:26,293 --> 00:10:27,461
-No. No. No.
- There is--yes, you're right.
298
00:10:27,544 --> 00:10:28,670
-No. No.
- Somebody is responsible.
299
00:10:28,754 --> 00:10:31,173
Was that hard for you
to fight that, Maria?
300
00:10:31,256 --> 00:10:32,883
- Oh, yeah.
- Isn't it?
301
00:10:32,966 --> 00:10:34,760
Oh, sorry.
I was just looking at my phone.
302
00:10:34,843 --> 00:10:37,471
- Oh.
303
00:10:37,554 --> 00:10:39,014
- Hubba hubba.
- No, no, no.
304
00:10:39,097 --> 00:10:41,058
Was it hard
for you to fight for Jacqui's side?
305
00:10:41,141 --> 00:10:43,894
Um, no.
306
00:10:45,395 --> 00:10:46,229
You didn't know
what you were doing, did you?
307
00:10:46,313 --> 00:10:48,065
No, I didn't. I didn't.
308
00:10:48,148 --> 00:10:49,733
Do you honestly--
do you want another question?
309
00:10:49,816 --> 00:10:51,443
- No.
310
00:10:51,526 --> 00:10:54,946
Honestly, to be quite honest,
when you were in my ear,
311
00:10:55,030 --> 00:10:57,783
I think we had to switch it,
and I couldn't--there was times
312
00:10:57,866 --> 00:11:00,952
where I couldn't hear about switching the
votes and doing this, and I was like...
313
00:11:01,036 --> 00:11:02,287
- Oh.
- It was stressful.
314
00:11:02,371 --> 00:11:03,455
- I was like, oh, my God.
- That's right.
315
00:11:03,538 --> 00:11:04,873
Because Maria was one of the, uh, cast...
316
00:11:04,956 --> 00:11:05,791
Earpiece.
317
00:11:05,874 --> 00:11:06,708
...that did have an earpiece...
318
00:11:06,792 --> 00:11:07,626
- That day.
- ...that day.
319
00:11:07,709 --> 00:11:08,752
- Yeah.
- Anyone who had enough hair
320
00:11:08,835 --> 00:11:10,796
to cover their ears
was eligible for an earpiece.
321
00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,173
Well,
but then I also had that earpiece
322
00:11:13,256 --> 00:11:14,591
that you couldn't see, even if you were...
323
00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:15,634
- Yeah, we got a tiny one.
- Yeah.
324
00:11:15,717 --> 00:11:17,969
You were--if you looked into my ear,
you still couldn't see...
325
00:11:18,053 --> 00:11:19,012
- Wow.
- ...this earpiece.
326
00:11:19,096 --> 00:11:20,889
I think the technology
progressed while we were shooting.
327
00:11:20,972 --> 00:11:21,973
Right.
328
00:11:22,057 --> 00:11:23,141
Because on the first issue,
329
00:11:23,225 --> 00:11:24,351
it's like, we don't have anything,
and I was like,
330
00:11:24,434 --> 00:11:25,685
"You gotta keep looking,
you gotta find something.
331
00:11:25,769 --> 00:11:26,895
-Like, we found something."
- Yeah.
332
00:11:26,978 --> 00:11:29,272
But you could see
Judge Alan's, clearly.
333
00:11:29,356 --> 00:11:31,400
Yeah, well, we thought that--
well, we put it in his ear...
334
00:11:31,483 --> 00:11:32,317
Because it looks like an...
335
00:11:32,401 --> 00:11:33,235
...that wasn't facing Ronald...
336
00:11:33,318 --> 00:11:34,277
- Yeah. Yeah.
- ...number one.
337
00:11:34,361 --> 00:11:35,529
And then we thought we could play it
as a hearing aid.
338
00:11:35,612 --> 00:11:36,488
Yeah.
339
00:11:36,571 --> 00:11:37,906
I was literally
just gonna say, yeah, I--yeah,
340
00:11:37,989 --> 00:11:38,907
I would've believed it was a hearing aid.
341
00:11:38,990 --> 00:11:40,075
- Yup.
- Yup.
342
00:11:40,158 --> 00:11:41,576
There were a few days though
where because that was so deep
343
00:11:41,660 --> 00:11:44,246
-in my ear, it plugged my left side.
- Yeah.
344
00:11:44,329 --> 00:11:46,081
So I couldn't see, I couldn't...
345
00:11:46,164 --> 00:11:48,083
- ...hear out of my left ear.
346
00:11:48,165 --> 00:11:49,543
It was really, like, I was just...
347
00:11:49,626 --> 00:11:51,128
The award really goes to...
348
00:11:51,211 --> 00:11:53,588
- Yeah, yeah. Real vomit.
349
00:11:53,672 --> 00:11:55,382
Yeah. I was--
I was freaking out
350
00:11:55,465 --> 00:11:57,551
-for the most of this, actually.
- Ear injury.
351
00:11:59,219 --> 00:12:00,262
You did such a solid job, too.
352
00:12:00,345 --> 00:12:01,513
...it's just going to be
the leftover from...
353
00:12:01,596 --> 00:12:03,306
Yeah. Did you actually
lose your girlfriend as well?
354
00:12:06,309 --> 00:12:07,436
To Boner Man?
355
00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:08,895
It's all right, he got a new one.
356
00:12:08,979 --> 00:12:10,355
Code Red, 28, 28.
357
00:12:12,315 --> 00:12:13,650
I loved
that Instagram name, Code Red.
358
00:12:13,733 --> 00:12:14,776
Yeah. Yeah.
359
00:12:14,860 --> 00:12:17,779
- That's clearly Cody.
- I know.
360
00:12:17,863 --> 00:12:20,365
...'cause this is gonna tell us
what his blood alcohol content is.
361
00:12:20,449 --> 00:12:22,284
And according to the toxicology report...
362
00:12:22,367 --> 00:12:24,202
I remember you saying
the blood alcohol level thing
363
00:12:24,286 --> 00:12:26,329
-was the big thing for you, Ronald.
- Yeah. Yeah.
364
00:12:26,413 --> 00:12:27,664
Oh, absolutely.
365
00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:29,082
Because, I mean,
everybody was claiming, like,
366
00:12:29,166 --> 00:12:31,042
"Oh, he showed up drunk,
he smelled like alcohol,"
367
00:12:31,126 --> 00:12:32,961
it's like, "Okay,
but did he really though, you know?"
368
00:12:33,044 --> 00:12:34,045
Right.
369
00:12:34,129 --> 00:12:36,381
And by the way,
we didn't know how hard to push that,
370
00:12:36,465 --> 00:12:38,133
or whether you were gonna grab it
on your own,
371
00:12:38,216 --> 00:12:39,509
or whether--you know what I mean?
372
00:12:39,593 --> 00:12:41,553
But you really--you were like,
"Yup, this is what we should look at."
373
00:12:41,636 --> 00:12:42,512
-You got it.
- Yeah.
374
00:12:42,596 --> 00:12:43,472
Yeah.
375
00:12:43,555 --> 00:12:45,682
Well, you know,
as somebody who has woken up
376
00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:48,435
the day after
and still felt pretty buzzed, I get it.
377
00:12:48,518 --> 00:12:49,394
-I know.
- Yeah.
378
00:12:49,478 --> 00:12:53,690
Was that--was that something that,
um, you guys intentionally omitted
379
00:12:53,773 --> 00:12:59,321
from testimony because it would have
kind of decided the case too early? Right?
380
00:12:59,404 --> 00:13:00,530
I'm trying to remember how we did it.
381
00:13:00,614 --> 00:13:02,657
It was very--it was very--yes.
382
00:13:02,741 --> 00:13:04,576
Basically,
we didn't--we wanted it to be able
383
00:13:04,659 --> 00:13:06,369
to be believable that
it was back and forth throughout...
384
00:13:06,453 --> 00:13:07,287
- Uh-huh.
- ...the whole thing.
385
00:13:07,370 --> 00:13:08,622
- Right.
- And I think we had someone
386
00:13:08,705 --> 00:13:11,583
mention it, we had the psychiatrist
maybe talk about it,
387
00:13:11,666 --> 00:13:14,252
-but not actually give the evidence...
- No evidence. No numbers.
388
00:13:14,336 --> 00:13:15,795
...so that Ronald
would hopefully look for it later.
389
00:13:15,879 --> 00:13:16,713
- Yes. Right.
- Yeah.
390
00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:18,131
...where the incident occurred.
391
00:13:18,215 --> 00:13:21,092
He said he started working
and he was then shaken awake.
392
00:13:21,176 --> 00:13:22,636
You guys saw the workstation.
393
00:13:22,719 --> 00:13:24,012
You have to type something into the...
394
00:13:24,095 --> 00:13:25,388
- He's just crushing it, man.
- I mean, really...
395
00:13:25,472 --> 00:13:26,640
- He's just crushing it.
- ...he's so good.
396
00:13:26,723 --> 00:13:27,807
Just the exact...
397
00:13:27,891 --> 00:13:30,101
"I don't wanna be foreperson
" and then you nailed it.
398
00:13:30,185 --> 00:13:31,019
I know.
399
00:13:31,102 --> 00:13:32,729
Were you thinking
about this at the hotel before you got in?
400
00:13:32,812 --> 00:13:33,939
Like, "Here's how I'm gonna go over it"?
401
00:13:34,022 --> 00:13:36,149
- A thousand percent, yeah.
- Yeah.
402
00:13:37,192 --> 00:13:38,860
I love this.
403
00:13:38,944 --> 00:13:39,945
Go ahead. Sorry.
404
00:13:40,028 --> 00:13:43,823
But Mr. Schiller
has testified he didn't see Trevor
405
00:13:43,907 --> 00:13:45,283
show up to work that day.
406
00:13:45,367 --> 00:13:46,660
So they got to do it again.
407
00:13:46,743 --> 00:13:50,121
- Oh, my God.
408
00:13:50,205 --> 00:13:52,457
Go ahead, James,
do your thing.
409
00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:53,708
Where did he get that thing?
410
00:13:57,295 --> 00:13:58,922
Acting like you know you shouldn't do it,
411
00:13:59,005 --> 00:14:00,340
but you just gotta--
you just gotta through it real quick.
412
00:14:00,423 --> 00:14:02,592
Like just gotta, "Ooh,
I'm gonna hit this button more time." Ooh.
413
00:14:02,676 --> 00:14:04,427
...Trevor was being disruptive, so he...
414
00:14:04,511 --> 00:14:05,804
My one meal for the day.
415
00:14:07,639 --> 00:14:09,266
...based off
of everything we've been told,
416
00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:12,519
more likely than not
was it Trevor who pushed these buttons in?
417
00:14:12,602 --> 00:14:14,521
- That's right.
-It's his workstation, he's...
418
00:14:14,604 --> 00:14:16,940
No jury duty experience with this guy.
419
00:14:17,023 --> 00:14:18,024
-Coming in...
- Right.
420
00:14:18,108 --> 00:14:19,067
- ...picking it all up.
- Yeah.
421
00:14:19,150 --> 00:14:20,360
-Forget about that.
- Ronald.
422
00:14:20,443 --> 00:14:22,821
No jury duty experience,
right, Ronald?
423
00:14:22,904 --> 00:14:24,239
- None at all.
- Still to this day.
424
00:14:24,322 --> 00:14:27,617
- Still to this day.
425
00:14:27,701 --> 00:14:29,452
- I mean, adjacent.
- Yeah. That's what I feel...
426
00:14:29,536 --> 00:14:31,121
- It's pretty close.
- ...worst about.
427
00:14:31,204 --> 00:14:33,498
-You didn't get this box ticked.
- This learning experience.
428
00:14:33,582 --> 00:14:34,708
Yeah, right?
429
00:14:34,790 --> 00:14:36,960
I wonder if this will get you excused
from any future jury duty.
430
00:14:37,043 --> 00:14:38,628
Yeah. Absolutely.
I think that's...
431
00:14:38,712 --> 00:14:39,754
- I served on a...
- ...a lifetime get...
432
00:14:39,838 --> 00:14:41,047
- ...fake jury.
- ...out of jail free card,
433
00:14:41,131 --> 00:14:42,090
-yeah.
- I hope so.
434
00:14:42,173 --> 00:14:43,717
Either that or it works the opposite,
435
00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,468
and they're like, "This guy
did such a phenomenal job, we...
436
00:14:45,552 --> 00:14:47,053
- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
437
00:14:47,137 --> 00:14:49,848
So this corroborates
what he was telling us yesterday
438
00:14:49,931 --> 00:14:52,183
when he said his workstation
was not the same.
439
00:14:52,267 --> 00:14:55,020
He specifically said that these tanks
had been moved
440
00:14:55,103 --> 00:14:57,230
and Lonnie and I did witness this.
441
00:14:57,314 --> 00:14:58,898
And talking...
442
00:14:58,982 --> 00:15:00,317
Everyone right now is literally Ronald,
443
00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,651
they're watching you do this,
going, like, he's nailing it.
444
00:15:01,735 --> 00:15:02,569
- Yes.
- Yeah.
445
00:15:02,652 --> 00:15:03,737
Yes.
446
00:15:03,820 --> 00:15:05,989
Very, very, very heavy
chemical smell coming out of there.
447
00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:08,199
Like if we would've stayed in there
for a few minutes, very...
448
00:15:08,283 --> 00:15:10,035
- Nervously excited.
- I know.
449
00:15:10,118 --> 00:15:12,579
I just wanted
to say that I use a device that, um...
450
00:15:12,662 --> 00:15:14,289
Unbelievable.
451
00:15:14,372 --> 00:15:16,207
Andrew Weinberg
needs to be put in jail for...
452
00:15:17,542 --> 00:15:20,045
For pushing so many of these things.
453
00:15:22,756 --> 00:15:26,217
Look at you tuning out.
You're like, "Okay."
454
00:15:26,301 --> 00:15:27,135
Yeah. Thank you for clarifying.
455
00:15:27,218 --> 00:15:28,553
But he said thank you.
456
00:15:28,637 --> 00:15:31,598
Probably was negligent
on their part for even keeping him around
457
00:15:31,681 --> 00:15:35,143
for this long if he was such a terrible
employee that he has been made out to be.
458
00:15:35,226 --> 00:15:37,020
Then you look at,
why were these moved?
459
00:15:37,103 --> 00:15:40,774
Why would you take these barrels up those
stairs to just stash them in this room?
460
00:15:40,857 --> 00:15:41,858
To me, that doesn't add up.
461
00:15:41,941 --> 00:15:44,069
So, that's why
I'm leaning the way I'm leaning.
462
00:15:44,152 --> 00:15:45,987
I remember you started off with liable
463
00:15:46,071 --> 00:15:48,531
and then you ended up being non-liable.
464
00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:50,533
And that--the big thing for you was...
465
00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:52,619
This exists.
466
00:15:52,702 --> 00:15:54,871
So, this is what changed my mind.
467
00:15:54,954 --> 00:15:57,665
But it was speculation
until Trevor testified.
468
00:15:57,749 --> 00:16:00,418
You were so patient with us
the whole day.
469
00:16:00,502 --> 00:16:05,006
And, like, re-explained--you never got
exasperated, never ran out of patience.
470
00:16:05,090 --> 00:16:08,468
Did you think, like,
I'm getting them, I'm turning them?
471
00:16:08,551 --> 00:16:10,512
Or were you, like, I still don't know
if we're gonna get out of here?
472
00:16:10,595 --> 00:16:12,389
Well, no,
I never had that mentality
473
00:16:12,472 --> 00:16:15,684
that I was turning or convincing anybody
because I was speaking my truth.
474
00:16:15,767 --> 00:16:17,310
I was saying
this is what I've seen, you know,
475
00:16:17,394 --> 00:16:19,354
I'm not here to persuade you guys
one way or the other.
476
00:16:19,437 --> 00:16:21,231
It's, like, I'm coming at this unbiased.
477
00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:22,482
This is what I saw.
478
00:16:22,565 --> 00:16:25,151
And so I believe it
because of this--these reasons, you know.
479
00:16:25,235 --> 00:16:26,695
And if you guys don't believe me,
that's up to you
480
00:16:26,778 --> 00:16:28,488
but I wasn't trying to convince anybody
of anything.
481
00:16:28,571 --> 00:16:30,073
- Mm-hmm.
- Mm-hmm.
482
00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:34,369
But do you believe
our three jurors that saw...
483
00:16:34,452 --> 00:16:36,496
I remember some of these
arguments started to feel real,
484
00:16:36,579 --> 00:16:37,747
-like, we were actually...
- Yes.
485
00:16:37,831 --> 00:16:38,832
- ...genuinely arguing...
- We had to.
486
00:16:38,915 --> 00:16:39,833
- ...with each other.
- Yeah.
487
00:16:39,915 --> 00:16:41,918
You and, uh, Ish got into it, didn't you?
488
00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:43,962
-And Bailiff Nikki had to come in?
- Yeah. Yeah.
489
00:16:44,045 --> 00:16:45,255
- Yeah. You guys, like...
- It became real, yeah.
490
00:16:45,338 --> 00:16:48,925
Yes. I had to--I had to defend
his point that was kind of indefensible,
491
00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:51,928
but I had to take a point
of view that I could argue.
492
00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:54,180
I had to make it hard for you.
493
00:16:54,264 --> 00:16:57,225
Because, again,
it's like, yeah, we need you saying
494
00:16:57,308 --> 00:17:00,478
-these words for 15 seconds of TV.
- Yeah.
495
00:17:00,562 --> 00:17:01,646
But to get you saying those words...
496
00:17:01,730 --> 00:17:02,605
But in real life...
497
00:17:02,689 --> 00:17:03,523
...you had to argue
for an hour about it...
498
00:17:03,606 --> 00:17:04,441
Yes. Yeah.
499
00:17:04,523 --> 00:17:05,692
...just to seem,
like, you would say those, yeah.
500
00:17:05,775 --> 00:17:06,901
That's really tricky.
501
00:17:06,984 --> 00:17:08,236
To re...
502
00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:10,155
And that's why you guys
are the best.
503
00:17:10,238 --> 00:17:12,531
-I mean, you guys are the best.
504
00:17:12,615 --> 00:17:13,907
I'm serious.
505
00:17:13,992 --> 00:17:15,617
Are you saying
that basically things don't...
506
00:17:15,702 --> 00:17:18,579
But yeah, Ronald we--
like, I would say that by this point,
507
00:17:18,663 --> 00:17:21,583
we knew we got there, right?
508
00:17:21,665 --> 00:17:25,462
Like, we're at the end of the show,
we can have a show, but we were so nervous
509
00:17:25,545 --> 00:17:29,549
about the way it was gonna--
this was gonna play out.
510
00:17:29,632 --> 00:17:31,634
Are we gonna have
to try to push it or what?
511
00:17:31,718 --> 00:17:34,846
Because our goal was get you here,
and then let's see,
512
00:17:34,929 --> 00:17:35,930
we think it's gonna work.
513
00:17:36,014 --> 00:17:37,140
His--is he gonna take charge?
514
00:17:37,223 --> 00:17:39,309
Is he gonna push in the right direction?
515
00:17:39,392 --> 00:17:43,188
I mean, we were just--I think
Cody and Nick were literally rolling
516
00:17:43,271 --> 00:17:44,898
on the floor in the control room
517
00:17:44,981 --> 00:17:46,983
-in like, relief and joy...
- Yeah.
518
00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:48,276
...like, oh my God, it's happening.
519
00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:49,611
Like, look at him, he's doing it. Like...
520
00:17:49,694 --> 00:17:50,653
He's doing it.
521
00:17:50,737 --> 00:17:53,156
...we--but you just--
as much as we even thought by this point,
522
00:17:53,239 --> 00:17:54,199
you just never know.
523
00:17:54,282 --> 00:17:55,533
You never know how it's gonna play out.
524
00:17:55,617 --> 00:17:56,743
You gonna sell it on eBay?
525
00:17:56,826 --> 00:17:58,411
Well, that's why
I made the comment about how,
526
00:17:58,495 --> 00:18:01,956
like, the fact that the show worked out
was just almost fate because not only am I
527
00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,126
the type of person I am but, like,
also my business experience as well, too.
528
00:18:05,210 --> 00:18:07,003
Like, I'm used
to leading groups of people.
529
00:18:07,086 --> 00:18:08,046
-Like this was not...
- Right.
530
00:18:08,129 --> 00:18:09,506
- ...something new to me.
- Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
531
00:18:09,589 --> 00:18:10,548
These responsibilities
just often fall to you.
532
00:18:10,632 --> 00:18:12,091
- But we didn't know that.
- Yeah.
533
00:18:12,175 --> 00:18:13,676
We didn't--we didn't know that
about you and it was...
534
00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:14,719
- Yeah.
- ...like, boy,
535
00:18:14,803 --> 00:18:16,930
-that just, we got lucky in so many ways.
- Yeah.
536
00:18:17,013 --> 00:18:19,933
Because, uh,
six people could have voted liable
537
00:18:20,016 --> 00:18:21,267
and you could have been, like,
you know what?
538
00:18:21,351 --> 00:18:22,727
Yeah, let's just go liable.
539
00:18:22,811 --> 00:18:24,729
-Let's get out of here.
540
00:18:24,813 --> 00:18:26,773
Yeah.
That's the easy route, let's take that.
541
00:18:28,107 --> 00:18:32,237
I think initially the plan
was to do 11 liable
542
00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,948
and you be the only person
not liable, hopefully.
543
00:18:35,031 --> 00:18:38,409
And then we were, like, I think
that'll be too unbelievable at this point.
544
00:18:38,493 --> 00:18:39,828
It would have been
too unbelievable, too,
545
00:18:39,911 --> 00:18:42,497
because I had discussed with Ken.
546
00:18:42,580 --> 00:18:44,290
I think it was Ken,
I was talking to somebody about it,
547
00:18:44,374 --> 00:18:45,875
but it was about a Hey Arnold! episode
548
00:18:45,959 --> 00:18:47,001
where they did something like this.
549
00:18:47,085 --> 00:18:49,754
And Arnold is the only one
who votes opposite the group.
550
00:18:49,838 --> 00:18:50,672
And he's, like, no, you guys.
551
00:18:50,755 --> 00:18:53,508
He's like your--you guys are wrong, like,
I'm not going on with this mob mentality.
552
00:18:53,591 --> 00:18:54,843
That's not accurate
based off what we've seen.
553
00:18:54,926 --> 00:18:55,927
Mm-hmm.
554
00:18:56,010 --> 00:18:57,220
And I told somebody about that
and I was like,
555
00:18:57,303 --> 00:18:59,347
oh, man, wouldn't it be crazy if, like,
something like that ends up happening...
556
00:18:59,430 --> 00:19:00,390
- Yeah.
- ...you know?
557
00:19:00,473 --> 00:19:03,059
Wow, uh,
but that was the idea for the show.
558
00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:05,645
Can we find someone
and have our Hey Arnold! moment
559
00:19:05,728 --> 00:19:08,231
-at the end of it?
560
00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:09,482
So it fits.
561
00:19:09,566 --> 00:19:11,568
-That's what he did.
-And, again, this is for everyone.
562
00:19:11,651 --> 00:19:14,612
And this is not a rhetorical question.
This is--I'm asking you, guys.
563
00:19:14,696 --> 00:19:16,698
Look at that hands behind
the back, looking like a teacher, come on.
564
00:19:16,781 --> 00:19:19,784
He's leading-leading.
Leading. Lead.
565
00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:21,244
I was trying to...
566
00:19:21,327 --> 00:19:23,788
If you're looking for it,
you can really see it in everyone's eyes.
567
00:19:23,872 --> 00:19:25,164
-You can just...
- Yeah.
568
00:19:25,248 --> 00:19:26,416
- Yeah.
- ...see like this is it.
569
00:19:26,499 --> 00:19:28,376
Okay. How do I not screw it up now
that this is it?
570
00:19:28,459 --> 00:19:29,294
-Yeah.
- Yeah.
571
00:19:29,377 --> 00:19:30,211
Still feeling this way.
572
00:19:30,295 --> 00:19:32,088
I mean, I'll speak towards...
573
00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:34,716
And I also do love,
James, that you, somehow,
574
00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:37,218
are able to believably at the beginning
be, like, "And I'm an alternate.
575
00:19:37,302 --> 00:19:38,761
I'm not part of this."
And then sit at the table.
576
00:19:39,762 --> 00:19:41,014
Actually its like,
"Hey, I voted.
577
00:19:41,097 --> 00:19:42,807
-I just put my initials. Don't count it."
- Yeah.
578
00:19:42,891 --> 00:19:46,311
We were, like, I was saying
hey, this is a documentary film crew.
579
00:19:46,394 --> 00:19:48,313
This is, like, you know the EGOT thing.
580
00:19:55,153 --> 00:19:57,947
So maybe this could be awards.
This documentary could get some awards.
581
00:19:58,031 --> 00:19:59,032
Yes.
582
00:19:59,115 --> 00:20:00,617
Once that Lone Pine thing went away.
583
00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:02,035
- Yes.
- Yeah.
584
00:20:02,118 --> 00:20:04,370
I remember you telling us
to watch cursing, too, because you're,
585
00:20:04,454 --> 00:20:06,205
like, if we curse, it excludes us
from certain awards.
586
00:20:06,289 --> 00:20:07,874
Yes. You did.
587
00:20:07,957 --> 00:20:10,209
But that was another reason
you probably need me here at the table,
588
00:20:10,293 --> 00:20:12,003
even though I'm not a juror.
589
00:20:12,086 --> 00:20:13,046
So 11 of us...
590
00:20:13,129 --> 00:20:14,297
This will be
good footage if I'm sitting here.
591
00:20:14,380 --> 00:20:15,590
-Yeah.
- Right, yeah, you're welcome.
592
00:20:15,673 --> 00:20:18,343
- They'll use it.
593
00:20:22,597 --> 00:20:23,598
-I mean...
- Forget how,
594
00:20:23,681 --> 00:20:28,895
like, we had three people over six-four
in our cast.
595
00:20:28,978 --> 00:20:30,647
And Ronald, Ronald's six-six.
596
00:20:30,730 --> 00:20:32,732
-Ross is what, six-five?
- Six-seven.
597
00:20:32,815 --> 00:20:34,734
- Six-seven, taller than you.
- He's bigger than I am, yeah.
598
00:20:34,817 --> 00:20:36,361
And then Kirk, six-four?
599
00:20:36,444 --> 00:20:37,612
-He's the one, he's the one.
- Yeah. We did.
600
00:20:37,695 --> 00:20:39,238
-We had some talk drinks of water.
- Yeah, we had some tall folks.
601
00:20:39,322 --> 00:20:40,865
That was--that was kind of
the running joke in the beginning.
602
00:20:40,949 --> 00:20:42,659
We could make a basketball team
out of our--out of our...
603
00:20:42,742 --> 00:20:44,285
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
604
00:20:44,369 --> 00:20:48,039
And he loves
this community of us and...
605
00:20:48,122 --> 00:20:49,082
That was the other thing.
606
00:20:49,165 --> 00:20:52,543
Not only force the votes
how we needed it for the character,
607
00:20:52,627 --> 00:20:57,131
but then give Ross the whole
don't wanna leave-- there we go.
608
00:20:57,215 --> 00:20:58,383
Like, let's just...
609
00:20:58,466 --> 00:21:01,344
Give some advice
on how to just self, what is it?
610
00:21:01,427 --> 00:21:02,428
-Self...
- Love.
611
00:21:02,512 --> 00:21:05,098
Self-love, let's call it.
612
00:21:05,181 --> 00:21:09,227
Okay. Um, can you talk to Ross?
613
00:21:09,310 --> 00:21:11,854
You know he's gonna listen to you.
614
00:21:11,938 --> 00:21:14,107
We're never gonna get out of here
if you don't get through to him.
615
00:21:14,190 --> 00:21:15,608
Please stop putting me
in the middle of things.
616
00:21:15,692 --> 00:21:17,276
You're being tasked
with everything.
617
00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:20,196
- I know.
- Go talk to the jorf table.
618
00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:21,948
Go talk to Ross.
619
00:21:22,031 --> 00:21:24,158
By the way,
asking Edy is genius, like, hey, can you,
620
00:21:24,242 --> 00:21:27,161
like, get serious for a second
with him and try to get him out there?
621
00:21:27,245 --> 00:21:30,665
Like, it's, like,
oh, hopefully that feels real, too.
622
00:21:30,748 --> 00:21:32,709
Had to get--had to get
special permission
623
00:21:32,792 --> 00:21:34,836
for them to let you outside
for a little chat.
624
00:21:34,919 --> 00:21:35,837
- I know.
- Right?
625
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,046
Because you're not supposed
to leave the room.
626
00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:38,131
- Right.
-That's not the case.
627
00:21:38,214 --> 00:21:40,383
We can't, you know,
bring our personal feelings into this.
628
00:21:40,466 --> 00:21:41,843
I don't know if that's what's happening.
629
00:21:43,386 --> 00:21:45,555
Oh, that's personal.
You can see it on his face.
630
00:21:46,931 --> 00:21:48,224
I'm sorry for what
you're going through, man.
631
00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:49,308
I can only imagine.
632
00:21:49,392 --> 00:21:52,270
Um, that being said, you know,
regardless of whatever outcome...
633
00:21:52,353 --> 00:21:55,106
There are also
more of these moments where you're, like,
634
00:21:55,189 --> 00:21:57,567
I can't wait to tell him
that he's not going through that.
635
00:21:57,650 --> 00:21:58,693
- I know.
- So that, you know, you can,
636
00:21:58,776 --> 00:22:00,486
-like, release any of that, you know...
- Right.
637
00:22:00,570 --> 00:22:02,739
...worry but also then
you're really nervous that, oh,
638
00:22:02,822 --> 00:22:05,575
he's about to find out
that he's not really going through that.
639
00:22:06,909 --> 00:22:10,580
I will say that is the other--
as happy as people were,
640
00:22:10,663 --> 00:22:12,832
and, guys, tell me if I'm wrong,
you guys were in the room.
641
00:22:12,915 --> 00:22:14,542
But as happy as people
were going, like, he's there,
642
00:22:14,625 --> 00:22:16,294
oh, my gosh, we're gonna get there,
643
00:22:16,377 --> 00:22:20,631
there was also this, like,
impending sense of, like, hey, we--
644
00:22:20,715 --> 00:22:23,676
now we did this crazy trick,
we have to do the dismount now.
645
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,677
- Right.
- No, a hundred percent, yes.
646
00:22:24,761 --> 00:22:26,554
How's that gonna go?
And I think that then became--
647
00:22:26,637 --> 00:22:28,264
-people almost didn't want it to end.
- A hundred percent.
648
00:22:28,347 --> 00:22:29,891
Because they didn't wanna go
to that next stage.
649
00:22:29,974 --> 00:22:33,895
It was the--
oh, my God, that's so intense.
650
00:22:33,978 --> 00:22:35,855
We just got to--
we got to focus, you know,
651
00:22:35,938 --> 00:22:37,148
and I think we got
to set our feelings aside.
652
00:22:37,231 --> 00:22:39,275
And again, I'm sorry, man.
I can only imagine.
653
00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:41,027
-But we've got to get this...
- Oh, Ronald.
654
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:43,988
Yeah. Yeah. You're right.
655
00:22:45,573 --> 00:22:47,492
Pretty quick turnaround
on Ross's part, actually.
656
00:22:47,575 --> 00:22:49,327
- Yeah.
- To be honest.
657
00:22:49,410 --> 00:22:51,496
- He just needed a hug.
- He just needed a hug.
658
00:22:51,579 --> 00:22:52,538
A hug and a friend.
659
00:22:52,622 --> 00:22:54,624
All right. Let's take another vote.
660
00:22:56,125 --> 00:22:57,835
- Boom, boom, boom.
- Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
661
00:22:57,919 --> 00:22:59,420
Oh, my God.
662
00:22:59,504 --> 00:23:02,590
It's like reliving it all over again.
Oh, my God.
663
00:23:02,673 --> 00:23:04,175
My heart rate is,
like, upright now.
664
00:23:04,258 --> 00:23:05,468
- Yeah. Mine, too.
- Yes.
665
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,389
It's amazing how you can know
the outcome of something
666
00:23:10,473 --> 00:23:12,058
and still feel so much tension
667
00:23:12,141 --> 00:23:13,851
about how it's gonna go down
and if it's gonna go down.
668
00:23:13,935 --> 00:23:15,603
Like, we know. It's planned.
669
00:23:15,686 --> 00:23:17,647
I'm transported back
to that day watching and just--
670
00:23:17,730 --> 00:23:18,856
- Absolutely.
- Same, same.
671
00:23:18,940 --> 00:23:20,066
- Yeah.
- Same.
672
00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:23,361
Because you know
what's looming is Alan's reveal...
673
00:23:23,444 --> 00:23:26,072
Yes. Yes. Yes.
And what is he gonna do?
674
00:23:26,155 --> 00:23:28,157
...to Ron.
And it's like so subjective.
675
00:23:28,241 --> 00:23:29,492
Like what's--how is he gonna react and...
676
00:23:29,575 --> 00:23:30,827
And also,
how are you gonna react?
677
00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:31,786
- Yes.
- Right.
678
00:23:31,869 --> 00:23:33,037
- How would you react?
- Yeah.
679
00:23:33,121 --> 00:23:34,205
- We didn't know.
- We were all carrying...
680
00:23:34,288 --> 00:23:35,373
Uh, there was a part of my mind like...
681
00:23:35,456 --> 00:23:36,374
- It's scary.
- Yeah.
682
00:23:36,457 --> 00:23:37,708
Like, you're gonna be,
like, all right, one by one.
683
00:23:37,792 --> 00:23:39,418
-I'm gonna fistfight all of you.
- Yeah. Yeah.
684
00:23:39,502 --> 00:23:41,838
- Line them up.
685
00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:44,173
Does it? Has--had people
told you that, Ronald?
686
00:23:44,257 --> 00:23:47,218
Like, do you realize, like,
in the scene, like, everyone's slowly
687
00:23:47,301 --> 00:23:49,846
freaking out inside because
they are so nervous about what's next?
688
00:23:49,929 --> 00:23:51,347
- What's next.
- Like, could you--could you--
689
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:53,641
but, like maybe could you sense
that in the room or that was just part
690
00:23:53,724 --> 00:23:56,853
of the vote maybe it felt
like there, or, like, not really?
691
00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:58,896
I couldn't sense it. No.
692
00:23:58,980 --> 00:24:00,106
Not liable?
693
00:24:00,189 --> 00:24:03,317
If anything, it was more of,
like, uh, people were relieved to be out.
694
00:24:03,401 --> 00:24:04,694
That's what I was picking up.
It's, like, hey...
695
00:24:04,777 --> 00:24:05,736
- Yeah.
- ...we're finishing up.
696
00:24:05,820 --> 00:24:07,321
We're going home.
We're wrapping this thing up.
697
00:24:07,405 --> 00:24:08,322
Let's get out of here.
698
00:24:08,406 --> 00:24:10,449
-So it's like a relief to be done.
- Ugh.
699
00:24:10,533 --> 00:24:11,659
-Oh, my God.
- Last one.
700
00:24:11,742 --> 00:24:15,329
Obviously I confused that
with your relief of ending the charade.
701
00:24:17,248 --> 00:24:19,876
Oh, my gosh, we did it.
702
00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:21,794
I was--
I was relieved to be done with that...
703
00:24:21,878 --> 00:24:22,879
Relief of those
who have stressed because...
704
00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:24,297
...deliberation oh, my God. Yes.
Immediately...
705
00:24:24,380 --> 00:24:25,798
- Also...
- ...immediate stress.
706
00:24:25,882 --> 00:24:28,259
Well, I don't think any of us
knew what Alan was even gonna say.
707
00:24:28,342 --> 00:24:29,260
- No.
- Right?
708
00:24:29,343 --> 00:24:30,803
- No.
- I mean, I think we talked
709
00:24:30,887 --> 00:24:33,723
a little bit about what, uh,
710
00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:36,100
what the review
was gonna feel like, right?
711
00:24:36,184 --> 00:24:37,226
- Yeah.
- So hard to know.
712
00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:38,978
And what was--
what was gonna come out of his mouth.
713
00:24:39,061 --> 00:24:41,022
Because ultimately, we're
kind of guessing at the best way to do it.
714
00:24:41,105 --> 00:24:41,939
Right. Right.
715
00:24:42,023 --> 00:24:43,232
Because you can't really know.
716
00:24:43,316 --> 00:24:44,442
Yeah.
717
00:24:44,525 --> 00:24:45,902
-What?
-Are you serious?
718
00:24:45,985 --> 00:24:47,862
Sequestered for nothing?
719
00:24:47,945 --> 00:24:49,780
Sequestered for nothing.
720
00:24:49,864 --> 00:24:53,034
-You're an asshole.
-You can't take that away from me.
721
00:24:54,660 --> 00:24:56,495
We're family.
722
00:24:56,579 --> 00:24:57,455
We're family.
723
00:24:57,538 --> 00:24:59,749
This, everyone's butt cheeks
were clenched.
724
00:24:59,832 --> 00:25:00,708
- Oh, my God.
- Oh, my God.
725
00:25:00,791 --> 00:25:01,876
- I mean...
- Oh, my gosh.
726
00:25:01,959 --> 00:25:03,961
...it was--
everyone was sweating. Sweating.
727
00:25:04,045 --> 00:25:05,504
Yeah. We cut a lot of it down.
728
00:25:05,588 --> 00:25:06,756
But, oh, so much footage of everyone.
729
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:07,798
I was gonna say there were tears.
730
00:25:07,882 --> 00:25:08,841
People were already crying.
People were already crying.
731
00:25:08,925 --> 00:25:09,842
Well, my heart rate's going up.
732
00:25:09,926 --> 00:25:11,719
- I know I cried.
- Yeah.
733
00:25:11,802 --> 00:25:13,471
Yeah. We were--yeah.
734
00:25:13,554 --> 00:25:14,847
- Oh, in the control room, too.
- We all did.
735
00:25:14,931 --> 00:25:15,932
I was just, like,
you get so silent.
736
00:25:16,015 --> 00:25:17,058
Very emotional.
737
00:25:17,141 --> 00:25:18,559
Okay. Would you please...
738
00:25:18,643 --> 00:25:20,186
- Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.
- Oh, my God.
739
00:25:20,269 --> 00:25:22,355
Oh, my God.
740
00:25:23,356 --> 00:25:24,857
I was gonna say,
right at this moment,
741
00:25:24,941 --> 00:25:27,193
I was feeling so relieved, too,
because I was, like, nice.
742
00:25:27,276 --> 00:25:28,527
I don't have to read the verdict.
743
00:25:28,611 --> 00:25:29,946
I'm just gonna hand him the paper.
744
00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:31,113
-My job is done, you know?
- Yeah. Yeah.
745
00:25:31,197 --> 00:25:32,865
Talk us through
what's going on in your head
746
00:25:32,949 --> 00:25:34,283
as this starts--as this is happening here.
747
00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:35,868
Well, as she's coming back here,
that's when I'm like, oh,
748
00:25:35,952 --> 00:25:37,954
crap, I'm actually gonna have
to read this out loud.
749
00:25:38,037 --> 00:25:40,539
We, the jury,
in the above-entitled action,
750
00:25:40,623 --> 00:25:42,166
render the following verdict.
751
00:25:42,250 --> 00:25:43,584
Were you looking--were you, like,
752
00:25:43,668 --> 00:25:44,835
I wonder how he's gonna feel about this?
753
00:25:44,919 --> 00:25:46,420
Like, did you wanna clock,
754
00:25:46,504 --> 00:25:47,421
-you know, Trevor's eyes?
- Reaction.
755
00:25:47,505 --> 00:25:48,965
So I was doing the opposite of that.
756
00:25:49,048 --> 00:25:51,717
I could--I was looking
everywhere but Jacqui.
757
00:25:51,801 --> 00:25:54,053
I could not look at her.
I felt so bad for her.
758
00:25:54,136 --> 00:25:55,346
I was looking anywhere else.
759
00:25:55,429 --> 00:25:56,931
I could not make eye contact with her.
760
00:25:57,014 --> 00:25:58,140
Right,
because even if you think
761
00:25:58,224 --> 00:26:00,393
she's not in the right,
you're still telling her she's losing.
762
00:26:00,476 --> 00:26:02,603
Yeah. And that was
my whole point to these guys, too,
763
00:26:02,687 --> 00:26:04,480
is it's like, hey, these--
this decision that we're coming to...
764
00:26:04,563 --> 00:26:05,481
Affect somebody's lives.
765
00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:06,399
...is gonna seriously affect
somebody, yeah, like...
766
00:26:06,482 --> 00:26:07,316
Right.
767
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,026
...somebody in this courtroom
is not gonna be happy with the verdict
768
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:10,403
I have to deliver to them.
769
00:26:10,486 --> 00:26:12,530
- Oh, my God.
- And then he pulls you up.
770
00:26:12,613 --> 00:26:13,781
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
771
00:26:13,864 --> 00:26:15,199
It's interesting
that you're thinking about that.
772
00:26:15,283 --> 00:26:16,826
You're not--you're not thinking about,
like, oh, nice.
773
00:26:16,909 --> 00:26:18,452
I get to go back home to San Diego.
774
00:26:18,536 --> 00:26:20,955
I get to chill. I get to...
775
00:26:21,038 --> 00:26:22,873
This music
that starts to creep in here is brilliant.
776
00:26:22,957 --> 00:26:23,874
Yeah.
777
00:26:23,958 --> 00:26:25,126
I hereby enter judgment in favor
778
00:26:25,209 --> 00:26:27,086
of the defendant
and against the plaintiff.
779
00:26:27,169 --> 00:26:29,839
And now right now, it's just
still par for the course here, Ronald?
780
00:26:29,922 --> 00:26:31,340
Hold on.
Just hold on just a sec.
781
00:26:31,424 --> 00:26:32,550
- What do you mean?
- For you?
782
00:26:32,633 --> 00:26:34,427
Like in your mind, like, okay,
I guess I just have to sit up here now?
783
00:26:34,510 --> 00:26:35,970
Yeah. Like, I mean,
because again, you know,
784
00:26:36,053 --> 00:26:37,179
-I have no frame of reference.
- Yeah.
785
00:26:37,263 --> 00:26:38,389
I don't know
what normally happens when...
786
00:26:38,472 --> 00:26:39,432
- Right.
- ...you deliver a verdict.
787
00:26:39,515 --> 00:26:41,976
...in this courtroom
that this is the last trial of my career.
788
00:26:42,059 --> 00:26:45,438
What I didn't tell you
is it's also the first,
789
00:26:45,521 --> 00:26:47,773
uh, because I'm not a real judge.
790
00:26:48,983 --> 00:26:51,944
And in this moment, too,
like, I was just--I didn't believe him.
791
00:26:52,028 --> 00:26:54,405
I was like, no, this has got to be a joke.
You know, it's just disbelief, like...
792
00:26:54,488 --> 00:26:55,406
- Yeah.
- Right.
793
00:26:55,489 --> 00:26:56,449
What?
794
00:26:56,532 --> 00:26:58,034
It must be hard
to even know what he means,
795
00:26:58,117 --> 00:27:00,119
-what he's even trying to say.
- Yeah, that's--yeah.
796
00:27:00,202 --> 00:27:04,040
I had no idea, like,
uh, disbelief is the only word I can use.
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