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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,020 --> 00:00:04,219 Marnie is very sick. 2 00:00:04,220 --> 00:00:06,579 She has shown no signs of neurological improvement and is 3 00:00:06,580 --> 00:00:08,219 still ventilator-dependent. 4 00:00:08,220 --> 00:00:11,699 Is it in Marnie's best interests to continue ventilation or not? 5 00:00:11,700 --> 00:00:13,859 Let's stay on holiday for a bit longer, eh? 6 00:00:13,860 --> 00:00:16,499 Please don't assume Marnie's story is going to be any less beautiful. 7 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:17,779 It'll just be different. 8 00:00:17,780 --> 00:00:19,819 Marnie, honey, can you do that again, please? 9 00:00:19,820 --> 00:00:21,139 Can you squeeze my hand? 10 00:00:21,140 --> 00:00:23,179 She's going to get better. 11 00:00:23,180 --> 00:00:26,619 You could come to the hospital, if you like? 12 00:00:26,620 --> 00:00:28,260 I'll be better here. 13 00:00:29,460 --> 00:00:31,939 I'm here on behalf of Every Christian Life. 14 00:00:31,940 --> 00:00:33,259 We're here to help. 15 00:00:33,260 --> 00:00:35,539 I think we should consider ending it, the treatment. 16 00:00:35,540 --> 00:00:39,259 I have been fighting for her all my life! 17 00:00:39,260 --> 00:00:41,019 Just me! Not you! 18 00:00:41,020 --> 00:00:43,179 That's just not true. Well, prove it, then! 19 00:00:43,180 --> 00:00:45,459 They say she's in a lot of pain! She is still your child! 20 00:00:45,460 --> 00:00:47,299 Yes! Yes, she is! 21 00:00:47,300 --> 00:00:50,699 Dad, don't go. Don't leave me here. 22 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:52,899 This is going to be a fight, Nicci. 23 00:00:52,900 --> 00:00:55,539 All we want is to save Marnie's life. 24 00:00:55,540 --> 00:00:57,499 Then, yeah... 25 00:00:57,500 --> 00:00:59,179 ..I'm ready. 26 00:00:59,180 --> 00:01:02,579 This programme contains strong language and some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting 27 00:01:02,580 --> 00:01:04,659 So, your line about the marriage is that 28 00:01:04,660 --> 00:01:07,459 "it's a private matter for my husband and I." 29 00:01:07,460 --> 00:01:08,659 Right. 30 00:01:08,660 --> 00:01:11,139 And when they say, "Why does he want her dead and you don't?" 31 00:01:11,140 --> 00:01:13,059 Well, Nihal, he won't say that. 32 00:01:13,060 --> 00:01:14,459 He's excellent. 33 00:01:14,460 --> 00:01:15,899 Right, well, if he hints at it? 34 00:01:15,900 --> 00:01:18,139 Well, then you just hint back that your husband is, in fact, 35 00:01:18,140 --> 00:01:19,900 an arsehole. 36 00:01:21,060 --> 00:01:24,259 Look, whenever it gets hard, just think about Marnie, all right? 37 00:01:24,260 --> 00:01:27,339 That'll get you through. They get a tight 20, then we've got to 38 00:01:27,340 --> 00:01:29,499 get straight off to the solicitor, OK? 39 00:01:29,500 --> 00:01:31,499 Right, tight 20. 40 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:32,540 Got it. 41 00:01:34,060 --> 00:01:36,179 PRESENTER: Now, over to Laura with the travel. 42 00:01:36,180 --> 00:01:38,739 What's happening with the roads, Laura? 43 00:01:38,740 --> 00:01:40,220 OK? 44 00:01:42,180 --> 00:01:44,539 Hi. Brenda. Nice to meet you. Nihal. Hi. 45 00:01:44,540 --> 00:01:45,899 Hi. Hi. 46 00:01:45,900 --> 00:01:48,419 We've got 45 seconds of travel peace. Oh, right. 47 00:01:48,420 --> 00:01:51,859 It's a pleasure to have you here. 48 00:01:51,860 --> 00:01:54,699 OK, headphones on, if you want them. 49 00:01:54,700 --> 00:01:56,499 Not necessary if not. 50 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:59,099 Just talk to me. The more casual, the better. 51 00:01:59,100 --> 00:02:01,379 Oh, we're just going to go straight into it? 52 00:02:01,380 --> 00:02:03,059 Yeah. Be yourself. You'll be great. 53 00:02:03,060 --> 00:02:04,100 You'll be great. 54 00:02:05,540 --> 00:02:07,579 It's 7:34. 55 00:02:07,580 --> 00:02:09,699 We're joined this morning by Nicola... 56 00:02:09,700 --> 00:02:12,259 It's Nicci. Uh, Nicci Lloyd, 57 00:02:12,260 --> 00:02:15,419 who is mother to Marnie, who is currently in hospital 58 00:02:15,420 --> 00:02:17,579 and extremely poorly. 59 00:02:17,580 --> 00:02:20,779 Yeah, my daughter has a rare neuromuscular disorder. 60 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:23,179 She was diagnosed when she was six months old. 61 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:24,859 And she's 13 now? 62 00:02:24,860 --> 00:02:27,859 Yeah. They-they... they kept telling us she was going to die at two, 63 00:02:27,860 --> 00:02:29,579 four, seven, erm... 64 00:02:29,580 --> 00:02:31,299 ..when she was 10, 12. 65 00:02:31,300 --> 00:02:33,539 Now 13. 66 00:02:33,540 --> 00:02:35,739 But she's... she's a strong girl. 67 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:39,219 You're currently in a dispute with the hospital about the best form 68 00:02:39,220 --> 00:02:41,499 of future care for her? 69 00:02:41,500 --> 00:02:45,139 Well, I think "care" is a kind word for it. 70 00:02:45,140 --> 00:02:49,500 They want to switch off her machines and we want to keep them on. 71 00:02:53,940 --> 00:02:55,980 PHONE BUZZES 72 00:03:02,780 --> 00:03:04,380 CALL DISMISSED CLICK 73 00:03:20,660 --> 00:03:22,179 Hello? 74 00:03:22,180 --> 00:03:23,899 Oh. I've got the wrong place. 75 00:03:23,900 --> 00:03:25,219 Possibly. 76 00:03:25,220 --> 00:03:26,819 My handwriting's awful. 77 00:03:26,820 --> 00:03:29,659 I wrote down 23, but it could equally likely be 33. 78 00:03:29,660 --> 00:03:31,379 Sorry, who are you looking for? 79 00:03:31,380 --> 00:03:33,099 Are you Caitlin Lloyd? 80 00:03:33,100 --> 00:03:35,179 Yeah. Um, Katie. 81 00:03:35,180 --> 00:03:37,819 I'm Greg from Children and Family Legal Services. 82 00:03:37,820 --> 00:03:39,579 Here to talk about Marnie. 83 00:03:39,580 --> 00:03:41,859 I had an appointment with Nicola at 10:00. 84 00:03:41,860 --> 00:03:43,419 Right. Uh... 85 00:03:43,420 --> 00:03:45,939 Yeah, Mum's not good at appointments right now. 86 00:03:45,940 --> 00:03:47,740 Come in. I'll phone her. 87 00:03:48,900 --> 00:03:50,500 Thank you. 88 00:03:53,860 --> 00:03:56,979 So, what are you assessing? 89 00:03:56,980 --> 00:03:59,700 How best to represent Marnie in court. 90 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:03,939 You're my sister's lawyer? No, not a legal. 91 00:04:03,940 --> 00:04:06,059 I'm a social worker. 92 00:04:06,060 --> 00:04:09,419 The court has appointed me to look after Marnie's welfare. 93 00:04:09,420 --> 00:04:12,579 I sit in court and look after her best interests. 94 00:04:12,580 --> 00:04:14,539 Isn't that our job? 95 00:04:14,540 --> 00:04:16,139 Well, of course, 96 00:04:16,140 --> 00:04:19,979 but the court feels that Marnie should have her own voice. 97 00:04:19,980 --> 00:04:22,019 Your mum talks about her feelings. 98 00:04:22,020 --> 00:04:23,899 Your dad talks about him. 99 00:04:23,900 --> 00:04:26,419 The hospital talks about them. 100 00:04:26,420 --> 00:04:30,739 And I speak to everyone and try to look out for what's best for Marnie. 101 00:04:30,740 --> 00:04:32,500 I'm not AGAINST anyone. 102 00:04:33,740 --> 00:04:35,660 I'm FOR Marnie. 103 00:04:37,420 --> 00:04:39,980 Right, I'll phone her again. 104 00:04:49,740 --> 00:04:52,660 PHONE RINGS 105 00:04:54,460 --> 00:04:55,939 Hey. Are you OK? 106 00:04:55,940 --> 00:04:59,939 Mum, there's a man here to see you from the child legal service thing. 107 00:04:59,940 --> 00:05:00,979 A social worker? 108 00:05:00,980 --> 00:05:02,580 Oh, sh... 109 00:05:03,820 --> 00:05:05,459 Shite. 110 00:05:05,460 --> 00:05:06,899 Um... 111 00:05:06,900 --> 00:05:08,459 I forgot. 112 00:05:08,460 --> 00:05:10,099 Where are you? Er... 113 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:13,139 I've got... I've got a lawyer thing, and then a TV thing. 114 00:05:13,140 --> 00:05:14,819 A TV thing? 115 00:05:14,820 --> 00:05:16,379 Yeah, it's ridiculous, I know. 116 00:05:16,380 --> 00:05:18,779 Do you want me to speak to him, make it less embarrassing? 117 00:05:18,780 --> 00:05:22,139 No, I'll handle it. Go be a TV star. 118 00:05:22,140 --> 00:05:24,700 CALL DISCONNECT TONE 119 00:05:26,740 --> 00:05:28,260 Everything OK? 120 00:05:29,540 --> 00:05:30,860 Yeah. Yeah. 121 00:05:33,340 --> 00:05:35,139 So, er, could we get you a drink? 122 00:05:35,140 --> 00:05:37,139 Coffee, tea, water, flavoured water? 123 00:05:37,140 --> 00:05:39,419 Er... No, I'm fine. 124 00:05:39,420 --> 00:05:41,059 This is Derek. 125 00:05:41,060 --> 00:05:43,619 Derek's your barrister, and Derek is great. 126 00:05:43,620 --> 00:05:46,059 It is an honour to be involved in this case. 127 00:05:46,060 --> 00:05:47,499 Thank you. 128 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:50,499 So, what we're doing is building our case from the excellent 129 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:53,219 medical history you've provided, Nicci. 130 00:05:53,220 --> 00:05:55,459 The hospital has power on its side. 131 00:05:55,460 --> 00:05:58,779 The white coat - even unworn - gives credibility. 132 00:05:58,780 --> 00:06:02,499 So, our role is to promote our alternative hypothesis 133 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:06,019 that the prognosis they have given was based on poor judgment, 134 00:06:06,020 --> 00:06:09,859 and to propose that alternative treatments are still a possibility. 135 00:06:09,860 --> 00:06:12,259 Right, you think you can show they did a bad job? 136 00:06:12,260 --> 00:06:15,819 We believe we can suggest a bias in the treatment Marnie has received, 137 00:06:15,820 --> 00:06:18,339 particularly from Samantha Woodham. 138 00:06:18,340 --> 00:06:20,619 We're looking for moments when her medical judgment 139 00:06:20,620 --> 00:06:22,059 may have been clouded. 140 00:06:22,060 --> 00:06:24,379 If we can show that, we can show that similar doubt 141 00:06:24,380 --> 00:06:26,499 must be applied to this case. 142 00:06:26,500 --> 00:06:29,019 Anything and everything that you've got in that regard 143 00:06:29,020 --> 00:06:30,579 would be most useful. 144 00:06:30,580 --> 00:06:32,779 And there is some urgency with the court date approaching. 145 00:06:32,780 --> 00:06:34,699 Samantha's a good doctor, though... 146 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:36,259 No-one's denying that. 147 00:06:36,260 --> 00:06:38,579 And we've had some wonderful responses in terms 148 00:06:38,580 --> 00:06:40,619 of alternate treatments for Marnie. 149 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:43,099 And we're still circling to find the right doctor to help us... 150 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:44,899 You haven't found anyone yet? 151 00:06:44,900 --> 00:06:47,020 Well, it takes time, Nicci. 152 00:06:48,460 --> 00:06:49,899 Oh... 153 00:06:49,900 --> 00:06:52,059 PHONE RINGS 154 00:06:52,060 --> 00:06:53,740 Um, it's the hospital. I... 155 00:06:55,860 --> 00:06:56,900 Hello? 156 00:06:58,340 --> 00:06:59,739 I'm on my way. 157 00:06:59,740 --> 00:07:01,379 Do you think you'll win, Nicci? 158 00:07:01,380 --> 00:07:03,179 How's Marnie? Can you give us a comment, please? 159 00:07:03,180 --> 00:07:04,579 Can... can you not, please? 160 00:07:04,580 --> 00:07:06,899 Any change in her condition? Have you seen her? 161 00:07:06,900 --> 00:07:09,420 Can I just go and see my daughter? Thank you. 162 00:07:22,420 --> 00:07:24,180 BUZZER 163 00:07:32,260 --> 00:07:33,780 Thank you. 164 00:07:45,260 --> 00:07:47,579 Journalists are outside. 165 00:07:47,580 --> 00:07:49,420 Yeah. I know. 166 00:07:57,220 --> 00:08:00,099 Can't we do better than this? 167 00:08:00,100 --> 00:08:01,140 I'm going to go in. 168 00:08:03,380 --> 00:08:05,820 Is she OK? Doctor's on her way. 169 00:08:07,980 --> 00:08:10,300 Hey, Marnie. Hey, petal. 170 00:08:11,940 --> 00:08:14,220 Hey, you don't look too bad. 171 00:08:23,540 --> 00:08:26,019 Marnie had a reaction to one of the drugs we had her on. 172 00:08:26,020 --> 00:08:29,419 We've given her some steroids and a dose of adrenaline 173 00:08:29,420 --> 00:08:31,620 and she seems to have settled. 174 00:08:33,420 --> 00:08:35,259 What did you put her on? 175 00:08:35,260 --> 00:08:40,099 It was a reaction to the new antibiotics we've been trying. 176 00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:41,780 She's out of danger. 177 00:08:42,860 --> 00:08:44,100 Right. 178 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:49,299 I am... I've been... 179 00:08:49,300 --> 00:08:52,420 ..aware of what you've been saying on the radio, and... 180 00:08:54,060 --> 00:08:57,179 ..I just wanted to say that I'm sorry we weren't able 181 00:08:57,180 --> 00:08:59,660 to provide a care that you... 182 00:09:01,980 --> 00:09:06,220 For what it's worth, I've always cared deeply about Marnie. 183 00:09:11,460 --> 00:09:12,980 DOOR OPENS 184 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:21,380 What... what's happening? 185 00:09:22,780 --> 00:09:24,459 Just a small reaction. 186 00:09:24,460 --> 00:09:27,380 She'll be back to how she was soon. 187 00:09:49,820 --> 00:09:51,419 Chill-out room. 188 00:09:51,420 --> 00:09:53,820 I need some stuff to cover the chairs and stuff. 189 00:09:55,220 --> 00:09:57,219 That, that... Yeah. 190 00:09:57,220 --> 00:09:59,739 Coat room. Can I do coats? 191 00:09:59,740 --> 00:10:01,620 You're not going to be here at all. 192 00:10:03,140 --> 00:10:06,059 Hang on a minute, Katie. 193 00:10:06,060 --> 00:10:08,659 OK, so I want everything cleared out of here. 194 00:10:08,660 --> 00:10:11,379 Ah... Well, we might not be able to clear out EVERYTHING. 195 00:10:11,380 --> 00:10:13,019 It's got to be a dance floor, Dad. 196 00:10:13,020 --> 00:10:14,539 Well, what do you want gone? 197 00:10:14,540 --> 00:10:16,299 The television. Mm. 198 00:10:16,300 --> 00:10:18,779 These cabinets. Yeah. 199 00:10:18,780 --> 00:10:20,899 The sofa. Ugh... 200 00:10:20,900 --> 00:10:24,059 Well, the cabinets and the telly might be possible, 201 00:10:24,060 --> 00:10:26,219 but I'm not sure the sofa will be. 202 00:10:26,220 --> 00:10:27,939 But it's the biggest thing, Dad. 203 00:10:27,940 --> 00:10:29,459 Yeah, that's exactly the problem. 204 00:10:29,460 --> 00:10:31,179 If we could just put it in the kitchen. 205 00:10:31,180 --> 00:10:33,019 It could be quite cool in the kitchen. 206 00:10:33,020 --> 00:10:35,459 Well, it needs to clear the doors, that's the problem. 207 00:10:35,460 --> 00:10:37,099 It's not enough space otherwise. 208 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:39,220 All right. Well, I'm sure you'll manage. 209 00:10:42,860 --> 00:10:46,419 Hey. You can't not invite your sister to your party. 210 00:10:46,420 --> 00:10:48,419 I think none of you should be here. 211 00:10:48,420 --> 00:10:50,579 It'll be OK. We'll... 212 00:10:50,580 --> 00:10:51,939 I don't mind. 213 00:10:51,940 --> 00:10:54,859 She can be in your room, if you want more people waiting and watching. 214 00:10:54,860 --> 00:10:57,339 But I think you'll be better going out, the whole lot of you. 215 00:10:57,340 --> 00:10:58,659 Go bowling. 216 00:10:58,660 --> 00:11:00,299 We COULD go bowling. 217 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:01,739 It's my birthday. 218 00:11:01,740 --> 00:11:04,299 She's going to your party, and we're supervising, 219 00:11:04,300 --> 00:11:06,499 and that's the end of the discussion. 220 00:11:06,500 --> 00:11:08,699 So, I don't have a significant life? 221 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:10,179 Just a significant sister? 222 00:11:10,180 --> 00:11:11,939 Katie, come on. You're being a child. 223 00:11:11,940 --> 00:11:14,660 I AM a child! And I don't want her here! 224 00:11:17,660 --> 00:11:21,540 POP MUSIC PLAYS 225 00:11:40,860 --> 00:11:42,339 I really like you. 226 00:11:42,340 --> 00:11:43,779 What? 227 00:11:43,780 --> 00:11:45,379 Happy birthday. 228 00:11:45,380 --> 00:11:46,739 Yeah. 229 00:11:46,740 --> 00:11:48,180 Good party. 230 00:11:49,540 --> 00:11:50,780 Sure. 231 00:11:53,420 --> 00:11:55,619 Sorry. My mum and dad are here. 232 00:11:55,620 --> 00:11:57,259 Oh. Uh, right. 233 00:11:57,260 --> 00:11:58,859 I just have to... 234 00:11:58,860 --> 00:12:00,500 Sure. See you. 235 00:12:03,020 --> 00:12:04,900 DOORBELL RINGS 236 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:11,659 Hi. Hi. Can I come in? 237 00:12:11,660 --> 00:12:13,060 Yeah, yeah, come on in. 238 00:12:14,340 --> 00:12:17,099 Um... I have tea, I think. 239 00:12:17,100 --> 00:12:20,499 The milk is... possibly off. 240 00:12:20,500 --> 00:12:21,899 I can have black tea. 241 00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:23,619 The milk is my fault. 242 00:12:23,620 --> 00:12:25,339 Hello, Uncle Tom. How do? 243 00:12:25,340 --> 00:12:26,779 It's the way the French do it. 244 00:12:26,780 --> 00:12:29,139 Although I believe they use lemon. I don't have lemon. 245 00:12:29,140 --> 00:12:30,859 I've got Jif lemon. 246 00:12:30,860 --> 00:12:32,419 For pancakes. 247 00:12:32,420 --> 00:12:34,540 Uh, yeah, just... just black tea is fine. 248 00:12:37,140 --> 00:12:39,499 Oh. OK, I'm, um... 249 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:41,099 ..I'm going to go out... Right. 250 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:42,899 ..erm... get some milk. 251 00:12:42,900 --> 00:12:44,459 OK. 252 00:12:44,460 --> 00:12:46,980 I may be some time. Right. 253 00:12:49,300 --> 00:12:51,699 Don't let him... Don't let him tidy up. 254 00:12:51,700 --> 00:12:54,819 Everything's there for a reason, OK? I won't. 255 00:12:54,820 --> 00:12:56,460 Yeah, OK. 256 00:12:59,300 --> 00:13:00,620 Bye. 257 00:13:13,740 --> 00:13:15,579 How are you getting on? 258 00:13:15,580 --> 00:13:17,220 Yeah. I'm fine. 259 00:13:19,700 --> 00:13:24,100 One of the most expressive words in the English language. 260 00:13:26,620 --> 00:13:28,900 "How were your exams, Katie?" "Fine." 261 00:13:30,580 --> 00:13:32,899 "How's that nasty friend of yours doing now?" 262 00:13:32,900 --> 00:13:34,299 "Fine." 263 00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:35,659 "How's that graze on your knee." 264 00:13:35,660 --> 00:13:37,179 "Fine." 265 00:13:37,180 --> 00:13:39,739 Which nasty friend? 266 00:13:39,740 --> 00:13:43,059 Ah... I want to say Marcia? 267 00:13:43,060 --> 00:13:45,499 The one who bullied you, you remember. 268 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:47,179 Marcia? 269 00:13:47,180 --> 00:13:49,339 Do you mean Natalie? Ah. 270 00:13:49,340 --> 00:13:53,299 Do you think you, um, sent me to a school where I might meet a Marcia? 271 00:13:53,300 --> 00:13:54,739 HE LAUGHS 272 00:13:54,740 --> 00:13:56,220 No. Hmm. 273 00:13:57,380 --> 00:13:59,259 Erm... 274 00:13:59,260 --> 00:14:00,780 Thank you. Ow, ow, ow... 275 00:14:02,020 --> 00:14:03,980 Inside? Yeah. 276 00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:10,819 I saw your mum. 277 00:14:10,820 --> 00:14:13,459 At the hospital earlier. 278 00:14:13,460 --> 00:14:15,100 Did you have a nice chat? 279 00:14:16,580 --> 00:14:17,940 No. 280 00:14:19,940 --> 00:14:21,740 Um... 281 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:25,819 When my mum died... 282 00:14:25,820 --> 00:14:27,619 That's a big when. 283 00:14:27,620 --> 00:14:30,019 Not allowed? 284 00:14:30,020 --> 00:14:33,899 Ah, when she died... 285 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:38,979 ..uh, she said two things to me. 286 00:14:38,980 --> 00:14:40,739 She said, 287 00:14:40,740 --> 00:14:44,459 "If I'd known giving up cigarettes would have got rid of this cough, 288 00:14:44,460 --> 00:14:46,299 "I'd have done it years ago." 289 00:14:46,300 --> 00:14:48,659 So, this is an anti-smoking thing now? 290 00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:50,819 And, um... 291 00:14:50,820 --> 00:14:54,659 ..the second thing she said was... 292 00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:57,619 ..that I was just like my dad. 293 00:14:57,620 --> 00:15:02,019 I would never reach my full potential... 294 00:15:02,020 --> 00:15:07,819 ..because I'm feckless with my own intelligence. 295 00:15:07,820 --> 00:15:09,699 I can't remember the exact phrasing. 296 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:12,380 I know it contained the word "feckless". 297 00:15:14,820 --> 00:15:17,659 OK, your tea? 298 00:15:17,660 --> 00:15:20,259 Yeah. Tastes a bit, um... 299 00:15:20,260 --> 00:15:22,180 ..washing-up-liquidy. 300 00:15:23,820 --> 00:15:25,100 Um... 301 00:15:26,460 --> 00:15:30,139 It's kind of a dark thing to say, isn't it, "feckless"? 302 00:15:30,140 --> 00:15:33,179 My mum felt she had a responsibility to be the guardian 303 00:15:33,180 --> 00:15:36,099 of other people's failings. Oh. 304 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:37,940 She thought she was helping me. 305 00:15:39,220 --> 00:15:44,979 She wanted to use that moment of her own death... 306 00:15:44,980 --> 00:15:47,579 ..to teach me. 307 00:15:47,580 --> 00:15:49,739 So, what did you do? 308 00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:50,939 With the advice? Mm. 309 00:15:50,940 --> 00:15:53,059 I went out and got shit-faced. 310 00:15:53,060 --> 00:15:56,020 And then, um, I sobered up. 311 00:15:57,060 --> 00:15:59,979 And then I... 312 00:15:59,980 --> 00:16:02,379 ..got your mum pregnant, 313 00:16:02,380 --> 00:16:04,499 and then I married her. 314 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:06,259 Got a job... 315 00:16:06,260 --> 00:16:08,060 ..that I didn't care about. 316 00:16:09,660 --> 00:16:11,220 Lived a life. 317 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:13,540 OK. 318 00:16:15,780 --> 00:16:17,219 That's really depressing. 319 00:16:17,220 --> 00:16:19,099 No, no. Not really, because... 320 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:20,780 Here's the thing. 321 00:16:22,420 --> 00:16:24,259 I loved... 322 00:16:24,260 --> 00:16:27,539 I have loved... 323 00:16:27,540 --> 00:16:30,220 I have loved her, your mum... 324 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:34,340 ..more than I expected to. 325 00:16:36,260 --> 00:16:38,859 And I have loved you 326 00:16:38,860 --> 00:16:42,499 more than I could ever have hoped to. 327 00:16:42,500 --> 00:16:45,339 And I loved Marnie... 328 00:16:45,340 --> 00:16:47,020 ..absolutely. 329 00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:52,179 And I think that's an achievement. I mean, not one that my mum, 330 00:16:52,180 --> 00:16:55,299 my mother - she hated the word "mum" - would have understood. 331 00:16:55,300 --> 00:16:59,460 But an achievement... all the same. 332 00:17:02,460 --> 00:17:05,219 And I think what I'm doing 333 00:17:05,220 --> 00:17:08,219 and what I'm saying now... 334 00:17:08,220 --> 00:17:10,060 ..is an act of love. 335 00:17:14,180 --> 00:17:17,940 I just needed... to explain that to you. 336 00:17:19,940 --> 00:17:21,260 Did you? 337 00:17:22,340 --> 00:17:24,139 You're disappointed? 338 00:17:24,140 --> 00:17:25,539 Yeah. 339 00:17:25,540 --> 00:17:26,819 Why? 340 00:17:26,820 --> 00:17:31,299 I'm not... I'm not going to back the hospital or embarrass your mum. 341 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:33,699 I'm just going to say my piece in court... 342 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:36,179 I mean, if you frame a thought with self-pity, 343 00:17:36,180 --> 00:17:39,779 it seems manageable, right? 344 00:17:39,780 --> 00:17:41,739 Your mum was an arsehole. 345 00:17:41,740 --> 00:17:43,380 So what? 346 00:17:44,980 --> 00:17:46,779 I was giving a context. 347 00:17:46,780 --> 00:17:49,019 You were giving an excuse. 348 00:17:49,020 --> 00:17:51,699 It's what all your generation does. 349 00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:54,299 "I'm not racist, but if you could understand 350 00:17:54,300 --> 00:17:57,339 "where I come from, you'd understand my racist thoughts." 351 00:17:57,340 --> 00:17:59,659 "I'm not transphobic. I'm not homophobic." 352 00:17:59,660 --> 00:18:02,179 I'm not racist or transphobic or homophobic... 353 00:18:02,180 --> 00:18:04,739 Dad, it was your job to love us. 354 00:18:04,740 --> 00:18:06,779 It was your job to be around. 355 00:18:06,780 --> 00:18:09,779 It was your fucking job. 356 00:18:09,780 --> 00:18:13,259 Honestly, so many men - and you see it all the fucking time - 357 00:18:13,260 --> 00:18:18,339 congratulate themselves for being, like, family men. 358 00:18:18,340 --> 00:18:21,499 What does that mean? That they provide? 359 00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:23,899 They don't fuck around? I mean, that's not an achievement. 360 00:18:23,900 --> 00:18:25,499 Yes, but... 361 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:28,179 You know, this may be an act of love, 362 00:18:28,180 --> 00:18:31,339 but you performed it in a cowardly way. 363 00:18:31,340 --> 00:18:33,859 You just ran. You didn't fight. 364 00:18:33,860 --> 00:18:35,539 What, you wanted World War III? 365 00:18:35,540 --> 00:18:38,139 If you believe something, isn't it better to argue for it? 366 00:18:38,140 --> 00:18:39,579 I was pretty clear about how I felt. 367 00:18:39,580 --> 00:18:42,259 I was trying to not make a situation worse. 368 00:18:42,260 --> 00:18:44,979 So, you just left her and me, 369 00:18:44,980 --> 00:18:47,099 without us really understanding what it meant for us? 370 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:49,179 No, no... That makes it sound like I abandoned you. 371 00:18:49,180 --> 00:18:51,619 Yeah, cos you did. 372 00:18:51,620 --> 00:18:54,419 I don't give a shit 373 00:18:54,420 --> 00:18:57,139 whether you reached your potential or not. I-I'm... 374 00:18:57,140 --> 00:18:58,859 I'm not marking you. 375 00:18:58,860 --> 00:19:01,939 I'm your daughter. It doesn't matter to me. 376 00:19:01,940 --> 00:19:04,819 All I care about is, like, what you are to me. 377 00:19:04,820 --> 00:19:07,779 I wasn't trying to excuse it. I shouldn't have talked about my mum. 378 00:19:07,780 --> 00:19:10,299 You know what? Like... Dad, this was a test, and you failed it 379 00:19:10,300 --> 00:19:12,699 when you left. I wasn't trying to excuse it. I don't actually feel 380 00:19:12,700 --> 00:19:14,459 like I NEED to excuse it. You know it's a mess... 381 00:19:14,460 --> 00:19:16,539 Dad, you can fuck off! 382 00:19:16,540 --> 00:19:19,019 Marnie lives! And my job is to support Mum, 383 00:19:19,020 --> 00:19:20,899 and actually try and survive. 384 00:19:20,900 --> 00:19:24,340 So, your "love" has helped neither of those things. 385 00:19:32,020 --> 00:19:34,339 Actually, you know what? 386 00:19:34,340 --> 00:19:36,339 It's not my job. 387 00:19:36,340 --> 00:19:40,299 It's actually not my job to support Mum, or you. 388 00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:42,779 I'm supposed to be a fucking teenager! 389 00:19:42,780 --> 00:19:44,699 So, fuck you for doing this to me! 390 00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:46,500 I didn't. Marnie did. 391 00:19:49,020 --> 00:19:51,019 That's interesting you chose to blame her. 392 00:19:51,020 --> 00:19:53,019 I don't blame her. I... 393 00:19:53,020 --> 00:19:55,499 I just acknowledge the fact. 394 00:19:55,500 --> 00:20:00,539 I just acknowledge the fact that her condition... 395 00:20:00,540 --> 00:20:03,339 ..caused difficulty. You didn't say her condition, Dad. 396 00:20:03,340 --> 00:20:05,500 You said her name. You're the one who can't visit her. 397 00:20:06,740 --> 00:20:07,979 Yeah. I can't. 398 00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:10,179 Right, so that makes me a dickhead, too. No, you're not... 399 00:20:10,180 --> 00:20:12,299 Is that what you want me to say? No, you're not a dickhead. 400 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:14,419 Look, I love you and your sister very much. 401 00:20:14,420 --> 00:20:16,859 Yeah, absolutely. You said you love Marnie absolutely. 402 00:20:16,860 --> 00:20:18,219 And I know I haven't been perfect... 403 00:20:18,220 --> 00:20:20,219 You let us down. Please don't do this. 404 00:20:20,220 --> 00:20:23,979 Look, whatever you think, just... just talk about it. 405 00:20:23,980 --> 00:20:26,659 Talk to Mum, and then you and Mum come to a decision, 406 00:20:26,660 --> 00:20:28,859 and then you stand WITH us. 407 00:20:28,860 --> 00:20:30,459 Please stand beside us. 408 00:20:30,460 --> 00:20:32,539 But we disagree on the key decision, 409 00:20:32,540 --> 00:20:36,019 the most important decision we have ever had to make. 410 00:20:36,020 --> 00:20:38,819 And you can't... talk about that, 411 00:20:38,820 --> 00:20:40,659 you can't rationalise it. 412 00:20:40,660 --> 00:20:43,060 You... you can only feel it. 413 00:20:46,420 --> 00:20:47,779 OK. 414 00:20:47,780 --> 00:20:49,419 I'm going to go, 415 00:20:49,420 --> 00:20:51,299 leave you to your feelings. 416 00:20:51,300 --> 00:20:53,179 No, don't do... Don't do that! 417 00:20:53,180 --> 00:20:54,939 Don't do that. Don't...! 418 00:20:54,940 --> 00:20:56,380 DOOR SLAMS 419 00:20:57,980 --> 00:20:59,820 HE SIGHS 420 00:21:23,260 --> 00:21:25,899 TV PLAYS: It's like you say, when you don't have the support, 421 00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:28,339 these things are made even harder. That can't have been easy. 422 00:21:28,340 --> 00:21:31,139 NICCI: Yeah, well people think when you've a disabled daughter 423 00:21:31,140 --> 00:21:32,819 that you're an object of pity. 424 00:21:32,820 --> 00:21:34,219 Fuck off. 425 00:21:34,220 --> 00:21:36,499 You know, they project their insecurities onto you. 426 00:21:36,500 --> 00:21:39,379 But, really, being a parent of a disabled child... 427 00:21:39,380 --> 00:21:40,939 No. 428 00:21:40,940 --> 00:21:43,339 ..it's the most beautiful job in the world. 429 00:21:43,340 --> 00:21:45,979 Marnie, you know, she has her downs, 430 00:21:45,980 --> 00:21:48,139 but her ups... 431 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:52,379 She's... You know, she's complicated, she's sparky, 432 00:21:52,380 --> 00:21:55,539 she's annoying, she's difficult. 433 00:21:55,540 --> 00:21:59,579 But, you know, she's, er... she's joyous. 434 00:21:59,580 --> 00:22:02,499 I wouldn't have missed a single minute of it. 435 00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:04,379 She sounds like a special lady. 436 00:22:04,380 --> 00:22:05,939 Oh, yeah, she is. 437 00:22:05,940 --> 00:22:07,659 Well, I'll tell her you said that. 438 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:10,179 She has at least one of your records. 439 00:22:10,180 --> 00:22:12,499 Well, you know, she's heard at least one of your records. 440 00:22:12,500 --> 00:22:14,419 Oh, she's a real fan, then. 441 00:22:14,420 --> 00:22:15,900 Fuck off! 442 00:22:18,740 --> 00:22:20,780 DOORBELL RINGS 443 00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:25,780 Listen, I didn't mean... 444 00:22:27,140 --> 00:22:28,379 Oh. 445 00:22:28,380 --> 00:22:29,979 We fixed a time, didn't we? 446 00:22:29,980 --> 00:22:32,179 Greg, from Children and Family Legal Services. 447 00:22:32,180 --> 00:22:33,699 Uh, sorry. I... 448 00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:35,299 ..I thought you were someone else. 449 00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:37,539 Maybe I could have a cup of tea? 450 00:22:37,540 --> 00:22:40,779 Ah, there's a coffee truck across the road. Do you mind if...? 451 00:22:40,780 --> 00:22:43,260 Not really supposed to do this in a public place. 452 00:22:45,140 --> 00:22:47,979 But I guess if we walk and talk... 453 00:22:47,980 --> 00:22:49,500 OK, I'll be two minutes. 454 00:22:52,460 --> 00:22:54,459 Unusual, this. 455 00:22:54,460 --> 00:22:57,339 Normally, I'm talking to parents together. 456 00:22:57,340 --> 00:22:59,139 Yeah, I can imagine. 457 00:22:59,140 --> 00:23:02,299 Um... Yeah, but there's no, um, legal... 458 00:23:02,300 --> 00:23:04,739 I'm not... I'm not instructing a solicitor or... 459 00:23:04,740 --> 00:23:06,940 Well, your evidence should be enough. 460 00:23:13,220 --> 00:23:15,459 So, you want to tell me when you knew? 461 00:23:15,460 --> 00:23:17,339 Sorry? 462 00:23:17,340 --> 00:23:20,659 When you knew that you agreed with the hospital 463 00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:22,899 as to what's best for Marnie. 464 00:23:22,900 --> 00:23:25,339 Look, just to be clear, I don't want to turn this 465 00:23:25,340 --> 00:23:27,779 into a me-and-my-wife thing. 466 00:23:27,780 --> 00:23:28,939 You won't. 467 00:23:28,940 --> 00:23:30,539 I'm proud of my marriage. 468 00:23:30,540 --> 00:23:33,819 I'm proud of what we went through. 469 00:23:33,820 --> 00:23:35,740 I'm just interested in your opinion. 470 00:23:36,820 --> 00:23:39,259 It won't be a "he said, she said." 471 00:23:39,260 --> 00:23:41,180 I won't be reporting this. 472 00:23:52,060 --> 00:23:54,020 I couldn't see her any more. 473 00:23:56,100 --> 00:23:58,779 I couldn't see... 474 00:23:58,780 --> 00:24:01,980 ..the things that made her... HER. 475 00:24:04,260 --> 00:24:07,020 That's as simple as it gets, really, isn't it? 476 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:12,259 Are your parents still together? 477 00:24:12,260 --> 00:24:13,539 No. 478 00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:15,259 Did they have... 479 00:24:15,260 --> 00:24:17,259 ..different reactions? 480 00:24:17,260 --> 00:24:19,699 To my disability? Yes. 481 00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:22,459 My dad blamed my mum for taking thalidomide. 482 00:24:22,460 --> 00:24:24,820 He wanted a kid he could play football with. 483 00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:27,859 Of course, he could have played football with me. 484 00:24:27,860 --> 00:24:30,659 I mean, I might not have been the best goalie, but otherwise... 485 00:24:30,660 --> 00:24:32,620 However, that didn't occur to him. 486 00:24:33,860 --> 00:24:36,339 So, you... Uh, you were one of the... 487 00:24:36,340 --> 00:24:38,579 ..um, thalidomide...? Mm. 488 00:24:38,580 --> 00:24:40,540 Seems a long time ago now, doesn't it? 489 00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:46,139 Easier, I think, when you've got something clear to blame it on. 490 00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:48,699 When you're someone like my dad, that is. No, I get it. 491 00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:50,259 Yeah, my brother has Asperger's. 492 00:24:50,260 --> 00:24:53,459 I'm a bit older, so I was already working when he was diagnosed, 493 00:24:53,460 --> 00:24:56,220 but I saw... some of it. 494 00:24:57,740 --> 00:25:00,940 My dad just got shame mixed up with anger, that's all. 495 00:25:02,580 --> 00:25:06,219 This doesn't have to be... shameful... 496 00:25:06,220 --> 00:25:08,499 ..for you. 497 00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:11,259 That's my tuppence, anyway. 498 00:25:11,260 --> 00:25:13,220 My disabled tuppence. 499 00:25:19,860 --> 00:25:22,659 I'm sorry, is that...? Does everybody ask you about...? 500 00:25:22,660 --> 00:25:24,299 Oh, plenty do. 501 00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:26,619 And some are arseholes about it. 502 00:25:26,620 --> 00:25:29,940 I only really talk about it if I feel somebody needs an answer. 503 00:25:34,940 --> 00:25:37,539 OK. So, if you're able, 504 00:25:37,540 --> 00:25:40,459 I'd like you to give me a brief medical history. 505 00:25:40,460 --> 00:25:41,819 Of everything? 506 00:25:41,820 --> 00:25:43,579 From year zero to now. 507 00:25:43,580 --> 00:25:46,739 Well, I'm not sure I'll be able to. Nicci has all the files. 508 00:25:46,740 --> 00:25:49,339 Ah, just your recollection should be enough. 509 00:25:49,340 --> 00:25:50,620 My recollection? 510 00:25:51,980 --> 00:25:53,539 Your story. 511 00:25:53,540 --> 00:25:55,139 Of what happened to Marnie, 512 00:25:55,140 --> 00:25:56,580 and to you. 513 00:25:59,900 --> 00:26:02,379 Right, I don't care what anyone says. We've been on the outside 514 00:26:02,380 --> 00:26:04,419 of this party all night. 515 00:26:04,420 --> 00:26:05,979 We are hitting this dance floor. 516 00:26:05,980 --> 00:26:07,859 We can do the... What's the one with the funny...? 517 00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:09,579 We can do the cha-cha! The cha-cha? 518 00:26:09,580 --> 00:26:11,019 The cha-cha. The cha-cha-cha... 519 00:26:11,020 --> 00:26:13,259 You can do what you like, as long as I don't have to watch. 520 00:26:13,260 --> 00:26:15,539 Why wouldn't you want to watch your father? I'll have you know 521 00:26:15,540 --> 00:26:17,459 that in the '90s, he was known as "The Hips." 522 00:26:17,460 --> 00:26:19,179 Ugh! Was I? 523 00:26:19,180 --> 00:26:20,539 No, of course you weren't. 524 00:26:20,540 --> 00:26:22,379 I'm just trying to ruin your daughter's evening. 525 00:26:22,380 --> 00:26:24,979 It was the '90s. No-one danced properly in the '90s. 526 00:26:24,980 --> 00:26:27,099 What? Everyone danced properly in the '90s! 527 00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:29,979 Ah, if I could take you to the Hacienda, Katie. 528 00:26:29,980 --> 00:26:31,659 I mean, when that place was going... 529 00:26:31,660 --> 00:26:33,139 I can only imagine. Mwah! 530 00:26:33,140 --> 00:26:36,939 I mean, if it was the Roses, you'd dance like this... 531 00:26:36,940 --> 00:26:39,499 Really? If it was the Happy Mondays, you'd dance like this... 532 00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:41,779 No, that's not right! No, it was more... 533 00:26:41,780 --> 00:26:43,419 Like this... No! That's terrible! 534 00:26:43,420 --> 00:26:44,659 Don't watch her. 535 00:26:44,660 --> 00:26:45,899 Marnie, what do you think? 536 00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:48,059 Have we embarrassed your sister enough? 537 00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:49,659 Marnie? 538 00:26:49,660 --> 00:26:51,699 Marnie? Honey? 539 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:53,579 Oh, Jesus. 540 00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:55,579 She's burning up. Marnie. 541 00:26:55,580 --> 00:26:57,859 You're OK, honey. You're OK, Marnie. 542 00:26:57,860 --> 00:26:59,219 Just breathe. 543 00:26:59,220 --> 00:27:00,979 OK. Mum's here. Mum's here. 544 00:27:00,980 --> 00:27:02,699 Can you drive a bit faster? 545 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:03,980 Andrew. 546 00:27:07,140 --> 00:27:09,500 It's all right, darling. It's all right. Shit! 547 00:27:17,020 --> 00:27:19,539 I'll put some music on. We don't need music on. 548 00:27:19,540 --> 00:27:22,019 MUSIC: Something Changed by Pulp 549 00:27:22,020 --> 00:27:24,099 It's OK. Deep breath. 550 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:26,220 Deep breaths. 551 00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:29,580 Fuck it. Bugger this. 552 00:27:34,220 --> 00:27:35,660 We need some help! 553 00:27:37,380 --> 00:27:40,140 We need some help here! 554 00:27:42,540 --> 00:27:46,619 โ™ช Life could have been very different 555 00:27:46,620 --> 00:27:49,179 โ™ช But then 556 00:27:49,180 --> 00:27:52,300 โ™ช Something changed 557 00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:06,379 โ™ช Do you believe 558 00:28:06,380 --> 00:28:10,459 โ™ช That there's someone up above? 559 00:28:10,460 --> 00:28:11,979 โ™ช And does he have...? โ™ช 560 00:28:11,980 --> 00:28:14,020 MUSIC LEAKS FROM HEADPHONES 561 00:28:26,740 --> 00:28:29,139 ANSWERPHONE: Hey, this is Nicci. Leave a message. 562 00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:31,859 Wow, you're not even answering me now. That's... 563 00:28:31,860 --> 00:28:33,460 That's a bit tight. Um... 564 00:28:34,660 --> 00:28:37,659 Well, just to say... 565 00:28:37,660 --> 00:28:41,139 ..Katie came to see me, uh, today. 566 00:28:41,140 --> 00:28:42,819 And, um... 567 00:28:42,820 --> 00:28:45,659 Look, I don't know what you said to her, but we probably need 568 00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:49,979 a rule in place that, um, says that we're not going to be 569 00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:52,060 saying stuff about each... 570 00:28:55,260 --> 00:28:57,500 That... that wasn't a thing. I was... 571 00:28:58,580 --> 00:29:00,220 Oh... 572 00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:04,779 INTERNAL RINGTONE 573 00:29:04,780 --> 00:29:06,859 Hey, this is Nicci. Leave a message. 574 00:29:06,860 --> 00:29:09,700 That wasn't a thing. That was just me dropping my phone. 575 00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:20,819 Hey, this is Nicci. Leave a message. 576 00:29:20,820 --> 00:29:24,219 Anyway, um, I think perhaps we should put, like, 577 00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:26,739 a statute in place, you know? 578 00:29:26,740 --> 00:29:29,699 "Thou shalt not make my child hate thee." 579 00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:32,099 Something like that. Less Roman, obviously. 580 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:34,340 But, you know, that would be great. 581 00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:47,899 INTERNAL RINGTONE 582 00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:49,980 Hey, this is Nicci. Leave a message. 583 00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:54,540 I really miss you. 584 00:29:56,020 --> 00:29:57,580 And the girls. 585 00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:02,499 I really miss you, and I... 586 00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:04,659 ..I don't know what I'm doing here. Am I part of a case? 587 00:30:04,660 --> 00:30:06,139 Am I not? Am I...? 588 00:30:06,140 --> 00:30:07,740 What am I? 589 00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:12,220 PHONE BUZZES 590 00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:28,420 SHE EXHALES 591 00:30:36,860 --> 00:30:38,820 She's not going to die, is she? 592 00:30:40,820 --> 00:30:44,619 Why... why would you say that? 593 00:30:44,620 --> 00:30:47,019 I was mean to her and I didn't say sorry. 594 00:30:47,020 --> 00:30:48,900 Come here. 595 00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:52,139 You're not mean. 596 00:30:52,140 --> 00:30:53,900 Don't think like that, OK? 597 00:30:55,740 --> 00:30:58,259 Hey. Um... 598 00:30:58,260 --> 00:31:00,059 She has an infection. 599 00:31:00,060 --> 00:31:01,859 We've inserted a central line. 600 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:05,699 Unfortunately, an artery was perforated, but we are... 601 00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:08,939 She is in surgery for vascular repair. 602 00:31:08,940 --> 00:31:11,579 Right, well, that's not great, is it? No, erm... 603 00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:13,499 No. 604 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:15,659 And I am sorry. 605 00:31:15,660 --> 00:31:17,539 Investigations will happen. 606 00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:20,739 But in the meantime, the important thing is that she is 607 00:31:20,740 --> 00:31:23,340 in the best hands to fix this. 608 00:31:25,860 --> 00:31:27,220 OK. Yeah. 609 00:31:28,940 --> 00:31:32,020 She'll be fine. She'll be fine. 610 00:31:35,220 --> 00:31:39,380 DANCE MUSIC PLAYS 611 00:32:41,620 --> 00:32:44,219 Oh! Never vomit in a bin. 612 00:32:44,220 --> 00:32:46,259 That requires you to look in the bin, 613 00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:48,579 and looking in a bin is where the damage starts. 614 00:32:48,580 --> 00:32:49,780 Top tip, that. 615 00:32:51,460 --> 00:32:53,139 Are you OK? 616 00:32:53,140 --> 00:32:55,859 Huh? Yeah, just dizzy. 617 00:32:55,860 --> 00:32:57,740 Well, dizzy is good. 618 00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,780 Are you selling Marnie's diazepam? 619 00:33:06,340 --> 00:33:08,219 Look, don't do that. 620 00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:10,060 Don't be that sort of a prick. 621 00:33:11,260 --> 00:33:13,180 What, I'm the prick? 622 00:33:15,420 --> 00:33:19,220 Oh, my God. My arse feels like it's spinning now, too. 623 00:33:22,980 --> 00:33:24,860 Look, it seemed like an easy win. 624 00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:27,899 An easy win with my sister's pills? 625 00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:29,659 Look, I was going to cut you in. 626 00:33:29,660 --> 00:33:32,659 Or spend it on you. Us. 627 00:33:32,660 --> 00:33:35,499 She's in hospital, and we're selling her drugs? 628 00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:37,740 Well, you were OK with me and you taking them. 629 00:33:39,580 --> 00:33:41,259 Look, are you coming? 630 00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:43,779 Cos we can go to the beach, or... 631 00:33:43,780 --> 00:33:45,020 No, erm... 632 00:33:46,260 --> 00:33:48,060 I'm just going to stay here. 633 00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:52,739 Do you know what? Fuck it. 634 00:33:52,740 --> 00:33:55,540 I don't want to be kissing you in that state anyway. 635 00:34:07,340 --> 00:34:09,700 PHONE BUZZES 636 00:34:12,340 --> 00:34:14,059 Hi. Hi. Um, where... 637 00:34:14,060 --> 00:34:15,299 ..where can we meet? 638 00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:17,539 Hey, I've been trying... I've been trying to get hold of you. 639 00:34:17,540 --> 00:34:19,299 Surely we should have spoken to a doctor by now. 640 00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:20,819 Yeah, that can wait. 641 00:34:20,820 --> 00:34:22,299 Erm, this is about Caitlin. 642 00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:24,539 What about Katie? Yeah, um... 643 00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:26,579 ..it's all over Twitter. What...? 644 00:34:26,580 --> 00:34:28,779 What's all over Twitter? 645 00:34:28,780 --> 00:34:32,139 She was spotted in a nightclub. 646 00:34:32,140 --> 00:34:35,019 Right, well, that's hardly crime of the century, is it? 647 00:34:35,020 --> 00:34:36,659 Sorry, I know, but... 648 00:34:36,660 --> 00:34:39,779 ..they're saying that she has been stealing Marnie's drugs, 649 00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:41,259 using them. 650 00:34:41,260 --> 00:34:43,659 A so-called friend took a picture and put it on Twitter 651 00:34:43,660 --> 00:34:45,900 with a very sanctimonious tweet. 652 00:34:49,260 --> 00:34:51,099 How do I... how do I get on Twitter? 653 00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:52,339 How does that work? 654 00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:54,139 I can send you the picture. 655 00:34:54,140 --> 00:34:57,939 But Marnie's name is on the packet and it's very visible, OK? 656 00:34:57,940 --> 00:35:00,219 So... so we should meet now to talk about it. 657 00:35:00,220 --> 00:35:02,979 Social media can be really difficult to handle, and I think that 658 00:35:02,980 --> 00:35:04,779 what we need to do is just talk it... Oh, God. 659 00:35:04,780 --> 00:35:06,179 No, it's fine, OK? 660 00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:08,259 Listen, it's good, because she's underage, 661 00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:09,779 so they can't print anything. 662 00:35:09,780 --> 00:35:11,779 Yeah, but what... what about police? I mean... 663 00:35:11,780 --> 00:35:13,779 Yeah, it's most likely going to be a theft charge. 664 00:35:13,780 --> 00:35:15,699 But, I mean, you'll hardly prosecute, will you? 665 00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:17,340 How do I get on fucking Twitter? 666 00:35:19,580 --> 00:35:20,859 Oh, shit. 667 00:35:20,860 --> 00:35:22,620 DISCONNECT TONE 668 00:35:24,340 --> 00:35:26,420 PHONE RINGS 669 00:35:27,780 --> 00:35:29,340 Oh, fuck. 670 00:35:30,980 --> 00:35:33,140 Fuck! Shit! 671 00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:45,620 PHONE RINGS 672 00:36:03,860 --> 00:36:05,779 Yeah, she's not at home. 673 00:36:05,780 --> 00:36:07,339 NICCI: You've seen the pictures? 674 00:36:07,340 --> 00:36:08,739 Yeah, I saw. 675 00:36:08,740 --> 00:36:12,179 She wasn't answering the phone, you weren't, so I came over here and... 676 00:36:12,180 --> 00:36:13,459 ..she's not here. 677 00:36:13,460 --> 00:36:14,819 SHE SIGHS 678 00:36:14,820 --> 00:36:16,540 I didn't know you were on Twitter. 679 00:36:17,620 --> 00:36:18,899 Uh, I just... 680 00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:22,139 Um, you know, Tim Burgess from The Charlatans started a thing 681 00:36:22,140 --> 00:36:24,579 where we all listened to albums together, so... 682 00:36:24,580 --> 00:36:26,379 OK. Look, what are they saying? 683 00:36:26,380 --> 00:36:28,899 It's being used by people who disagree with 684 00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:31,459 what you're saying, mostly. Arseholes. 685 00:36:31,460 --> 00:36:33,139 You know, um... 686 00:36:33,140 --> 00:36:36,659 "Can't even look after the well child," etc. 687 00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:38,579 They're just doing it to get at you. 688 00:36:38,580 --> 00:36:40,379 Just slinging mud. 689 00:36:40,380 --> 00:36:41,939 Can you send me the photo? 690 00:36:41,940 --> 00:36:43,220 Fine. 691 00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:50,940 That's Hannah. 692 00:36:52,660 --> 00:36:55,340 That's Hannah, she's dancing with Hannah. 693 00:36:59,380 --> 00:37:00,660 KNOCK AT DOOR 694 00:37:01,740 --> 00:37:03,420 BANGING 695 00:37:06,580 --> 00:37:07,939 Nicci! Is Hannah here? 696 00:37:07,940 --> 00:37:09,219 What? 697 00:37:09,220 --> 00:37:10,699 I need to speak to your daughter. Why? 698 00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:12,339 Why? Why would you stop me? 699 00:37:12,340 --> 00:37:14,459 Where's Katie? Is this your mess? 700 00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:15,979 Where is she? 701 00:37:15,980 --> 00:37:18,219 Don't tell me you weren't involved in this. Because I've known you 702 00:37:18,220 --> 00:37:20,299 since you were a little kid, so don't try and... 703 00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:21,619 Hang on. I'm not sure I like this. 704 00:37:21,620 --> 00:37:23,899 Look, it's just dicks being dicks, OK? Look, it'll blow over. 705 00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:26,379 I knew it was you. I could fucking see it! I was just helping her 706 00:37:26,380 --> 00:37:28,659 have a bit of fun. What, by stealing from her sister?! 707 00:37:28,660 --> 00:37:32,179 Well, it's not like Marnie was going to use them, is it? 708 00:37:32,180 --> 00:37:34,219 You are a disgrace. 709 00:37:34,220 --> 00:37:36,379 Do you know that? She is a vulnerable kid. You are an adult, 710 00:37:36,380 --> 00:37:38,859 and you should know better! Nicci, whatever this is, I'm sure... 711 00:37:38,860 --> 00:37:40,059 She's vulnerable. 712 00:37:40,060 --> 00:37:42,099 But you don't even know what and who she fucking is. 713 00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:43,579 You've always been a little liar. 714 00:37:43,580 --> 00:37:45,419 You're a spiteful little bitch! Oi! Oi! 715 00:37:45,420 --> 00:37:46,620 Enough! 716 00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:50,459 Nicci, you need to go. What?! 717 00:37:50,460 --> 00:37:51,979 Do you know what she did?! 718 00:37:51,980 --> 00:37:53,739 Katie is yours, Hannah is mine, 719 00:37:53,740 --> 00:37:56,220 and I will not have you talk to her like that. 720 00:37:58,860 --> 00:38:00,859 Yeah. Of course. 721 00:38:00,860 --> 00:38:02,499 Sorry. 722 00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:04,339 I didn't... 723 00:38:04,340 --> 00:38:06,100 I'm sorry. 724 00:38:41,780 --> 00:38:44,619 So, you WERE in the house? Alice didn't know. 725 00:38:44,620 --> 00:38:46,379 Yeah, well, Hannah did. 726 00:38:46,380 --> 00:38:48,300 Can you stop walking, Mum? 727 00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:02,779 It was a girl called Tricia. 728 00:39:02,780 --> 00:39:04,939 She's mostly OK, actually. 729 00:39:04,940 --> 00:39:08,019 She just saw an opportunity to send a picture into the world 730 00:39:08,020 --> 00:39:10,420 people would actually look at. 731 00:39:12,980 --> 00:39:14,260 Did you...? 732 00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:17,739 Did you do it? Did you take her medication? Did you sell it? 733 00:39:17,740 --> 00:39:19,019 You've seen the pictures. 734 00:39:19,020 --> 00:39:20,739 Yeah, I know, but I want to hear it from you. 735 00:39:20,740 --> 00:39:21,860 Yeah. 736 00:39:23,860 --> 00:39:25,379 Because Hannah asked you to? 737 00:39:25,380 --> 00:39:27,459 No. Because I wanted to. 738 00:39:27,460 --> 00:39:28,900 Well, do you know why? 739 00:39:29,980 --> 00:39:31,380 No. 740 00:39:37,060 --> 00:39:39,579 I've never liked her. Mum, it's not about that. 741 00:39:39,580 --> 00:39:41,019 Telling me that I don't know you. 742 00:39:41,020 --> 00:39:43,819 Yeah, well, you didn't know that I would do this. She doesn't even... 743 00:39:43,820 --> 00:39:45,419 You know, she's so superior. 744 00:39:45,420 --> 00:39:47,500 She doesn't even think I know you're gay. 745 00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:52,459 No, erm... 746 00:39:52,460 --> 00:39:53,899 Uh... 747 00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:56,499 No, I suppose I didn't, erm, 748 00:39:56,500 --> 00:40:00,019 know that... I just wanted you to be the one... 749 00:40:00,020 --> 00:40:02,059 ..to tell me. 750 00:40:02,060 --> 00:40:05,419 I just wanted to wait until you were ready. That's all it was. 751 00:40:05,420 --> 00:40:08,220 It felt like it should come from you, rather than me. 752 00:40:09,420 --> 00:40:11,739 You know, I read a book about it, actually, 753 00:40:11,740 --> 00:40:15,059 and I didn't want to be the one to force you... 754 00:40:15,060 --> 00:40:16,739 ..out. Right, you... 755 00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:19,100 ..you read about it, of course you did. 756 00:40:25,340 --> 00:40:27,019 I need to say three things to you. 757 00:40:27,020 --> 00:40:28,899 Mum, can we just please leave it? No, just... 758 00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:30,939 I'm sorry. The first is that you're lovely. 759 00:40:30,940 --> 00:40:32,659 OK? You are lovely. I'm... 760 00:40:32,660 --> 00:40:34,739 You are one of the loveliest people I have ever met, 761 00:40:34,740 --> 00:40:36,419 and that isn't fucking mum chat, OK? 762 00:40:36,420 --> 00:40:38,859 That's just me being an excellent judge of character. 763 00:40:38,860 --> 00:40:42,379 The second is that I'm so proud of you. 764 00:40:42,380 --> 00:40:46,419 I know how difficult it is, what you've been through, 765 00:40:46,420 --> 00:40:48,979 and I'm sorry for the part that I played in that... OK. 766 00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:51,299 Dad gave me the speech already. 767 00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:53,099 It was reckless, OK? 768 00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:55,139 What you did was reckless. But Hannah's right, 769 00:40:55,140 --> 00:40:57,339 it's not like Marnie was going to be needing it, and... 770 00:40:57,340 --> 00:40:59,859 You know, it's not like your dad and I haven't ever taken drugs, so... 771 00:40:59,860 --> 00:41:01,499 Oh, look, Mum, please don't do this. 772 00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:03,619 No, look, the third thing... 773 00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:07,139 ..I want to say to you is that I love you. 774 00:41:07,140 --> 00:41:10,739 And the one promise that I can make, the one promise I know I will keep, 775 00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:13,379 is that whatever happens, whoever you become, 776 00:41:13,380 --> 00:41:16,219 I will fight for you. 777 00:41:16,220 --> 00:41:19,500 I will fight like a fucking tiger. Do you understand? 778 00:41:21,860 --> 00:41:24,139 And I know I don't always notice things, and I know that 779 00:41:24,140 --> 00:41:26,579 I haven't been there for you, and I'm sorry that I haven't, 780 00:41:26,580 --> 00:41:28,339 but when it comes to it... 781 00:41:28,340 --> 00:41:31,540 ..you know, if I'm needed, I will fight. 782 00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:40,699 You're not on the radio now, you know. 783 00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:42,820 There's no-one to impress. 784 00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:45,780 I mean it. 785 00:41:46,980 --> 00:41:49,419 Can't you just be angry? 786 00:41:49,420 --> 00:41:51,459 You know, normal parents would be angry. 787 00:41:51,460 --> 00:41:54,099 I stole. I used. I was selfish. 788 00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:55,459 Yeah, you're in pain. 789 00:41:55,460 --> 00:41:57,299 No...! Oh, my God. Fuck that. 790 00:41:57,300 --> 00:42:00,259 I actually just wanted to have fun. 791 00:42:00,260 --> 00:42:02,659 I did a terrible thing, a horrible thing 792 00:42:02,660 --> 00:42:04,660 because I wanted to have fun. 793 00:42:08,660 --> 00:42:10,019 I AM angry. 794 00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:12,099 Yeah, well, then... well, then say that. 795 00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:16,020 Try that. Like, be honest for once. 796 00:42:17,580 --> 00:42:19,819 And... and you're right, you know. 797 00:42:19,820 --> 00:42:21,859 You..you haven't been there, 798 00:42:21,860 --> 00:42:24,060 and I genuinely don't... 799 00:42:25,460 --> 00:42:27,899 Like, I've always tried really hard not to hate you, 800 00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:29,539 because you're my parents... 801 00:42:29,540 --> 00:42:31,339 Right. ..and... 802 00:42:31,340 --> 00:42:33,979 ..and I know... I know you love me. 803 00:42:33,980 --> 00:42:38,499 Mum, I know you mean some of what you've just said, but... 804 00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:41,219 ..we're really good at pretending in this house, 805 00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:45,740 and... and hiding and being fucking, like... 806 00:42:47,780 --> 00:42:49,700 I don't know. 807 00:42:55,420 --> 00:42:57,660 This is about Marnie. 808 00:42:59,060 --> 00:43:02,700 I love her and I miss her, and... 809 00:43:04,580 --> 00:43:07,900 Fuck the two of you for making it about you. 810 00:43:17,620 --> 00:43:20,460 DOOR OPENS 811 00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:26,460 Hey. Hey. 812 00:43:29,180 --> 00:43:31,619 Uh, I was just about to make some beans for myself, 813 00:43:31,620 --> 00:43:33,219 but I wasn't sure if... I'll do it. 814 00:43:33,220 --> 00:43:35,340 No, I can make them. I can do it. OK. 815 00:43:41,860 --> 00:43:44,340 I love you. We love you. 816 00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:47,899 And I'm sorry you've got tangled up in all this mess. 817 00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:50,019 Andrew, it's maybe not the time to... 818 00:43:50,020 --> 00:43:51,739 I think I'm just going to, um... 819 00:43:51,740 --> 00:43:53,339 Do you mind if I just go to bed? 820 00:43:53,340 --> 00:43:55,019 No. No, not at all. 821 00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:57,819 Look, I... Look, I just want to say 822 00:43:57,820 --> 00:44:02,019 that it's important for you to know how much I love you. 823 00:44:02,020 --> 00:44:03,819 We love you. You said that. 824 00:44:03,820 --> 00:44:05,699 Whatever you do. 825 00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:06,900 Whatever you say. 826 00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:10,139 Whoever... 827 00:44:10,140 --> 00:44:11,580 ..you are. 828 00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:15,580 OK. Night. 829 00:44:20,940 --> 00:44:23,339 I shouldn't follow, right? She understands... 830 00:44:23,340 --> 00:44:24,939 That you love her? Yeah. 831 00:44:24,940 --> 00:44:27,020 Yeah, I think she got that message. 832 00:44:31,220 --> 00:44:33,060 Is she OK? 833 00:44:34,940 --> 00:44:36,699 No. 834 00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:38,059 Can I help? 835 00:44:38,060 --> 00:44:39,380 I don't know. 836 00:44:44,060 --> 00:44:46,060 I got your answerphone messages. 837 00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:49,099 Epic, weren't they? 838 00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:51,540 Yeah. Some of your finest work there. 839 00:44:52,900 --> 00:44:54,819 How much did you have to drink? 840 00:44:54,820 --> 00:44:56,579 Hangover was awful. 841 00:44:56,580 --> 00:44:59,060 I bet you went cheap on the wine. 842 00:45:03,780 --> 00:45:06,020 Well, they made me smile. 843 00:45:09,260 --> 00:45:11,020 She's so embarrassed. 844 00:45:13,220 --> 00:45:15,059 I swear to God, if we've done her damage... 845 00:45:15,060 --> 00:45:16,739 No, she's strong, our daughter. 846 00:45:16,740 --> 00:45:19,059 Both our daughters are strong. 847 00:45:19,060 --> 00:45:20,620 They get that from you. 848 00:45:21,740 --> 00:45:24,019 She's really angry with us. 849 00:45:24,020 --> 00:45:27,579 Well, I'm angry, too. Aren't you? I wanted to be with you. 850 00:45:27,580 --> 00:45:30,140 I wanted to be with you, too. 851 00:45:33,140 --> 00:45:34,939 They made you smile? 852 00:45:34,940 --> 00:45:36,660 The messages made you...? 853 00:45:37,660 --> 00:45:38,979 Yeah. 854 00:45:38,980 --> 00:45:40,860 Well, they made me sad, too. 855 00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:46,219 I'd better go. Well, I've not finished... 856 00:45:46,220 --> 00:45:47,499 I think that... 857 00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:50,339 ..once they're ready, I don't think I could bear leaving again. 858 00:45:50,340 --> 00:45:53,900 Personal limits. Heart strain. You know, that sort of thing. 859 00:45:58,420 --> 00:46:00,740 There's a doctor from America. 860 00:46:01,820 --> 00:46:04,339 Thinks he can help her. Treat her. 861 00:46:04,340 --> 00:46:06,179 Right. 862 00:46:06,180 --> 00:46:08,579 Yeah, I mean, they haven't connected me with him yet, 863 00:46:08,580 --> 00:46:10,859 but they're... they're quite excited. 864 00:46:10,860 --> 00:46:12,500 Right. That's exciting. 865 00:46:13,660 --> 00:46:15,619 Right, so you're just as dismissive, then? 866 00:46:15,620 --> 00:46:16,740 No. 867 00:46:17,980 --> 00:46:19,779 There's always a doctor, you know, 868 00:46:19,780 --> 00:46:21,819 generally from America or Italy, 869 00:46:21,820 --> 00:46:23,699 somewhere where there's a... 870 00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:26,659 ..Christian population, who'll treat your kid, you know? 871 00:46:26,660 --> 00:46:29,739 And they all always promise the world. 872 00:46:29,740 --> 00:46:31,939 Well, sometimes they deliver. 873 00:46:31,940 --> 00:46:33,539 Sometimes miracles happen. 874 00:46:33,540 --> 00:46:35,740 Marnie's already been a miracle. 875 00:46:51,820 --> 00:46:53,860 Tell Katie that I love her. 876 00:46:56,180 --> 00:46:58,379 Don't waste the... beans. 877 00:46:58,380 --> 00:47:01,020 Just... put them in Tupperware or something. 878 00:48:09,460 --> 00:48:14,260 I love you most of everyone in the whole world. 879 00:48:16,020 --> 00:48:18,419 I love you that much, too. 880 00:48:18,420 --> 00:48:20,620 THEY LAUGH 881 00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:23,939 No, Katie. 882 00:48:23,940 --> 00:48:27,379 I need you to know that. 883 00:48:27,380 --> 00:48:32,579 I love you more than Mum, Dad... 884 00:48:32,580 --> 00:48:34,540 Everyone. 885 00:48:40,020 --> 00:48:45,619 And, you know, I don't mind... 886 00:48:45,620 --> 00:48:48,619 ..if you hate being my sister. 887 00:48:48,620 --> 00:48:51,220 I don't mind. 888 00:48:57,820 --> 00:48:59,980 Can we just turn this off? 889 00:49:40,540 --> 00:49:42,700 Been a while. 890 00:49:45,060 --> 00:49:47,619 I, um... 891 00:49:47,620 --> 00:49:52,340 I brought some things to change your room a bit. 892 00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:57,299 Now, it is my old one, but... 893 00:49:57,300 --> 00:49:59,259 ..I put some new songs on there. 894 00:49:59,260 --> 00:50:00,740 SPEAKER BEEPS 895 00:50:02,140 --> 00:50:04,499 You haven't heard this one yet. 896 00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:06,299 You'll like it. 897 00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:10,140 MUSIC: Running by Pip Millett feat Ghetts 898 00:50:19,980 --> 00:50:22,460 You always liked this poster. 899 00:50:23,980 --> 00:50:25,739 But I, um... 900 00:50:25,740 --> 00:50:31,219 ..I took it down and I wouldn't let you have it, cos... 901 00:50:31,220 --> 00:50:33,260 ..I'm a dick. 902 00:50:42,940 --> 00:50:44,379 DOOR OPENS 903 00:50:44,380 --> 00:50:46,499 Oh. It's a party. 904 00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:48,139 Oh. Is it OK? 905 00:50:48,140 --> 00:50:51,100 Of course it is. I just need to take readings. 906 00:50:53,020 --> 00:50:54,699 I recognise him. 907 00:50:54,700 --> 00:50:57,339 Uh, yeah, it's Daniel Kaluuya. 908 00:50:57,340 --> 00:50:58,899 I kind of, um... 909 00:50:58,900 --> 00:51:02,419 Well, we both really like him. 910 00:51:02,420 --> 00:51:06,379 Nice eyes. Wish he'd smile more. 911 00:51:06,380 --> 00:51:08,260 No-one smiles any more. 912 00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:11,460 Do they not? 913 00:51:14,660 --> 00:51:16,580 This is hard on you. 914 00:51:17,820 --> 00:51:19,740 It's hard on you, too. 915 00:51:21,940 --> 00:51:23,580 Katie... 916 00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:28,259 ..however you feel about what your parents are doing, 917 00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:31,059 it's not about picking sides. 918 00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:33,659 Of course it is. 919 00:51:33,660 --> 00:51:35,940 And I'm on Marnie's side. 920 00:51:37,060 --> 00:51:39,179 Her best interests. 921 00:51:39,180 --> 00:51:41,300 That's what they say, isn't it? 922 00:51:43,180 --> 00:51:44,859 I never had a sister. 923 00:51:44,860 --> 00:51:46,979 Oh, sisters are brilliant. 924 00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:48,299 Yeah. 925 00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:50,740 Well, most of the time. 926 00:52:09,980 --> 00:52:11,980 DOORBELL RINGS 927 00:52:16,940 --> 00:52:19,419 Hey. Hi. Come in. 928 00:52:19,420 --> 00:52:22,299 Thanks for coming over so late. 929 00:52:22,300 --> 00:52:25,140 Thanks for finally calling back. 930 00:52:27,220 --> 00:52:29,300 Do you want wine? Uh, no. 931 00:52:30,340 --> 00:52:31,699 Um... 932 00:52:31,700 --> 00:52:36,259 If this was me, and I realise it's not, um... 933 00:52:36,260 --> 00:52:41,339 ..I think what we need is for Katie, whatever the truth of it, 934 00:52:41,340 --> 00:52:44,659 coming out and saying strongly, "This wasn't me. 935 00:52:44,660 --> 00:52:47,020 "It didn't happen." 936 00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:50,859 Do you have kids? 937 00:52:50,860 --> 00:52:52,179 Yeah. 938 00:52:52,180 --> 00:52:55,019 Uh, two boys, seven and 11. 939 00:52:55,020 --> 00:52:56,459 Where are they now? 940 00:52:56,460 --> 00:52:59,219 Well, I left them at home with the chip pan on the stove. 941 00:52:59,220 --> 00:53:02,219 They'll be all right, won't they? 942 00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:05,059 No, they're, uh... they're with their dad. 943 00:53:05,060 --> 00:53:07,459 We're divorced. 944 00:53:07,460 --> 00:53:10,219 Yeah, and I haven't been excommunicated. 945 00:53:10,220 --> 00:53:13,100 I know. I'm... I'm driving. 946 00:53:18,660 --> 00:53:21,819 Stick your head above the fence and people will throw stones, 947 00:53:21,820 --> 00:53:25,099 and they will throw stones at people you love. 948 00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:26,779 And I'm sorry about that. 949 00:53:26,780 --> 00:53:29,180 But the fight will be worth it. 950 00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:35,059 Samantha's a good doctor. 951 00:53:35,060 --> 00:53:36,939 This isn't about whether she's good or not. 952 00:53:36,940 --> 00:53:39,459 This is about establishing that medicine is about opinions 953 00:53:39,460 --> 00:53:42,099 and not just facts. 954 00:53:42,100 --> 00:53:45,499 There's lots of decisions, I think, that have been made for Marnie 955 00:53:45,500 --> 00:53:47,859 along the way that have caused problems. 956 00:53:47,860 --> 00:53:51,300 But the only genuine mistake I can think of... 957 00:53:52,940 --> 00:53:56,979 ..she, uh, she fitted a central line when Marnie had an infection 958 00:53:56,980 --> 00:53:59,779 and she perforated an artery. 959 00:53:59,780 --> 00:54:02,260 She perforated an artery? 960 00:54:03,780 --> 00:54:06,219 Yeah, I mean it was fine, you know, in the end. 961 00:54:06,220 --> 00:54:07,939 But... it was a problem. 962 00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:09,659 Do you have a date? 963 00:54:09,660 --> 00:54:11,539 Yeah. 964 00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:14,179 May 24th, 2016. 965 00:54:14,180 --> 00:54:16,660 It was Katie's birthday. 966 00:54:19,460 --> 00:54:21,219 Do you think that'll help? 967 00:54:21,220 --> 00:54:25,220 Well, I mean, it sounds pretty deadly to me. 968 00:54:33,580 --> 00:54:38,779 Sometimes the law presents us with cases of extreme complication. 969 00:54:38,780 --> 00:54:41,059 This is one such case. 970 00:54:41,060 --> 00:54:43,539 What is in the child's best interests? 971 00:54:43,540 --> 00:54:46,059 But applying it is very difficult. 972 00:54:46,060 --> 00:54:50,819 Because that notion of best interests has such complexity. 973 00:54:50,820 --> 00:54:53,579 I do not believe that anyone in this room 974 00:54:53,580 --> 00:54:56,619 does not have this child's best interests in their heart, 975 00:54:56,620 --> 00:55:01,380 and yet a decision has to be made as to what is in her best interests. 976 00:55:02,900 --> 00:55:07,579 I ask that we handle this case with the delicacy it warrants. 977 00:55:07,580 --> 00:55:09,859 That does not mean soft-soaping matters. 978 00:55:09,860 --> 00:55:13,499 We tell the truth, we challenge what we believe to be untruths. 979 00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:18,179 But we do so knowing the gravity that such a decision entails, 980 00:55:18,180 --> 00:55:22,259 and knowing that, above all else, we must keep the child, 981 00:55:22,260 --> 00:55:28,380 we must keep Marnie Lloyd at the forefront of our minds at all times. 111032

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